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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of The Electrical Engineer From MCC (Part 4) (4/26/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right
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  back to the interview given by the electrical engineer at
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  MCC to the OIG investigators. Question at the time that
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  you knew that the approximately fifty to potentially seventy cameras
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  weren't working, did you know what cameras weren't working or
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  just that a lot of the cameras weren't working. Answer,
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  Just a lot of the cameras weren't and I wasn't
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  going to sit there and try to figure out, you know,
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  what's going on. So when you're making that notification to
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  your supervisor, you're just saying, like, half the cameras are down.
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  Question by the investigator. Answer was down. Yeah, you've got
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  to decide what you're going to do. Question okay, And
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  they at the time said, don't worry about it, go home,
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  you can fix it tomorrow. Answer that was standard practice,
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  So I believe it went along those lines. Question okay,
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  and you said out another institution that would have never
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  he gets cut off by the engineer that would never fly. No, no,
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  can't have it. You've got to fix it if it's
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  not working, then you have to stay. Question do you
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  believe that you should have stayed? Answer? Yeah, I believe so.
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  Question and did your request to stay and fix it? Answer?
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  I think I did, But I think I pretty much
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  made a notification, But since I was going to be
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  back the next day, it didn't make sense for me
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  to stay because there was really nothing I could fix
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  that day anyway. Even if and I think I before
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  I left the two drives that were bad, I started
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  replacing them. I think I might have taken them out
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  to let them start rebuilding. Question Okay, so was there
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  anyone in the shoe that could have known that that
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  those cameras were down? Answer? No, question, No answer, because
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  I don't talk to anybody in custody as far as
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  the cameras go. That's why I go directly to my supervisor.
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  Question so, the fact that you know Epstein your most
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  notorious inmate at the time, is you know die is
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  the night that the cameras are down. Is there any
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  reasonably if there's any kind of is there any suspicion
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  surrounding the circumstances? Answer? No, it was just whatever happened happened.
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  It was really no tampering with the devices or somebody
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  turned off the power or no question. So to you,
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  it's just completely coincidental. Answer, just coincidental question, all right?
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  And again you said that no one could have tampered
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  with the cameras to make them go down. Answer yes, question,
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  that's correct, that no one could have answered no, no
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  one could have no question. Okay, all right. Answer. And
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  because another thing about the cameras, they're the way the
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  shoe cameras are. The power supply is for the old
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  analog cameras, one of them, and it's in one of
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  my closets. You would have to go in there, kill
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  the power and then go into mess with the recorder.
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  Like it's too much stuff to try one person to
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  think about trying to tamper with it. It's just a lot.
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  And like as soon as I put in the new recorders,
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  all the cameras came up, So the cameras weren't tampered
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  with at all. Question right, the cameras themselves. But what
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  about that room that you said that's where you fix
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  the mat Who had access to that room? Answer? I
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  would have it would be Sis because that was their
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  room at that time. I really didn't have access and
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  that was part of the problem too, because they were
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  leaving for the day and I didn't have access to
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  the room. I didn't have a key at that time
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  to go in the room because it's their property room.
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  Also question, but you went in to be able to
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  see that you weren't recording? Answer yeah, because somebody was
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  in the room. SIS was upstairs. Yes. Question so SIS
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  allowed you in the room? Answer yes. Question were they
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  in the room at that time? Answer nah, I usually
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  just go in the back room by myself. Question and
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  then you just asked them if you can go in
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  or is it What do you mean? There's like an
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  SIS officer and then there's a room within the SIS office.
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  Answer the SIS office. Yeah, they have the main room,
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  but then it has a video room and behind the
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  video room that's where the recorders are. Question Okay, so
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  is that room that you're talking about where the recorders are?
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  Is that also secured? Answer yes, it's secured. Yes. Question
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  So there's the SIS room that's secured, and then there's
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  also the TV monitor room that's also secured. Answer yes.
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  Question where the recordings? So did you have access to?
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  Who would have had access? I guess to where the
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  recordings would have been stored. Answer, I guess anybody in
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  SIS with the key for SIS but on the SIS.
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  Answer yes, only SIS. Question is there any reason to
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  believe anyone in SIS could have manipulated those that system
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  or taken the cameras. Answer you'd have to know what
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  you're doing, and I would kind of know if somebody
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  mess with it. It's not really something you go in
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  there and start disconnecting, Like the only way to really
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  do anything in that room is to start disconnecting stuff,
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  and it's a spaghetti mess. Starting to disconnect stuff is
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  not going to it's going to be tampered with, and
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  you'll see somebody did something. Question is there any other
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  than SIS who could have gotten in there? Answer? I
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  don't believe so. Question does the captain, aw's and the
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  warden have access to that room? Answer? They don't probably
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  even know anything that goes on in that room. The
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  only time I will tell them is like to do maintenance,
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  I'll complain and show them the room, Hey, you've got
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  to clean this up. Or question but do they have access?
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  Can they get into the room? Answer? They would have
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  to get twenty four hours keys from SIS or somebody
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  would have to give them access to get into that room.
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  Question but only SIS has it? Answer from what I know, yes,
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  only SIS can get into that room. Question why did
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  you happen to go into the room that day? Answer
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  I don't know. I just make rounds and I do stuff.
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  Somebody said something to me, or I was thinking about
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  it because I think I ordered the drive and I
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  just wanted to see where I was at to see
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  what I was going to get started on. And plus
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  we were doing a camera project, so I was just
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  trying to get a lot of things like organized and
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  see where we were actually at and what I was
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  actually gonna do. Question, So I have to ask as
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  part of it, did you happen to stop doing upgrade
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  work on it, unplug or take down the redundancy or
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  anything that worked that happened to stop working at that point?
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  Answer no, just it because we were having problems from
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  before and the problem just happened again, just like a coincidence.
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  Question and nothing to do with the work you were
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  doing on it. Answer no, because I didn't touch the recorders.
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  Question so not just the work you were doing on it.
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  Did anything you do cause the cameras to go down?
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  Answer no, not that day? No, question. Okay, in the
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  past it had though. Answer if I'm messing with a
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  recorder it can throw some stuff off, or if I'm yeah,
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  moving drives around. That's why I don't have to know. Hey,
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  the drives are bad because if I start moving stuff,
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  I don't know what's going to go down or not
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  work or yeah, the system's very old. Question But that
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  day on August ninth, when all the shoe cameras went down,
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  that had nothing to do with you. It was just
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  coincidental that they went down. Answer as far as the recording, yes,
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  question okay, so when you specified as far as the recording,
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  can you tell me why you said that? Is there
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  something else? Answer? Because people believe that when cameras don't work,
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  like the camera's not working, the camera could be throwing
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  out video because the live feed, like I said, goes
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  to the control center. They see the live video when
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  they're popping the door. So there's live video going getting fed.
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  It's just the digital side of it. The recording side
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  is not working. Question Was there a camera towards the backroom? Answer?
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  What back room? Question? Is there a camera in the
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  sis office? Answer? No, Now there is there's a camera
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  going towards SIS, but before there was no camera, it
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  would just be the third floor three sally as someone
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  was going in that general direction, but you can't even
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  make out who's going by there the video room. Question
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  Was there any way to know who went in and
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  out of that room? Answer? No question, there's a key
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  entry or answer no question. Two follow up questions One
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  has this problem been rectified? Answer yes? Question and when
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  was it rectified? Answer on whenever they came and did
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  a walk around. We added cameras, like to the SIS room.
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  Of course we upgraded the recorders, but there's cameras to
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  see who goes in that general area, Like if you
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  go in the room, you'll see who's going in the
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  recording room. Question and was that like a year or
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  two ago? How long after the August ninth incident? Answer
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  that's probably like a year after that because we were
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  doing a lot of other stuff before that. Question. So
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  in some time in like twenty twenty. Have the cameras
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  gone down since then? Answer hm. Question And when I
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  say the cameras, I mean the recordings. Answer when I
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  have to do maintenance, I have to notify somebody, like
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  the cameras are going down, they make sure that the
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  gel is locked, and he gets cut off by the
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  interviewer only intentionally answer yes, question, they've never gone down,
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  he gets cut off by the engineer. Oh, we've had
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  See I can't really say that because we've had issues
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  because we're putting in IP cameras. The IP cameras are
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  like little computers, and they overload the system sometimes when
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  the software isn't right, so it bogs down the system.
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  And we've had problems where the recording stops. But we
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  have a redundant recorder, but not all the cameras would
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  go down per se question okay answer. And the reason
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  I'm saying that also is because a lot of the
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  cameras it's like a mix and match of old cameras
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  and new cameras, analog cameras and like more computer based
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  cameras IP cameras. So right now, when the system fails,
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  the old analog cameras for the most part, are going
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  to work. The problems are going to be the newer
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  cameras on the tiers. The older cameras would always pretty
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  much be recording if we ever had an issue. Question
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  okay answer, and we've had a few issues, yes, but
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  they're usually with the newer cameras, not with the older ones.
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  Question interesting, okay, And as far as just to make
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  sure that we're clear which of the cameras in the
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  shoe actually we're recording, he gets cut off the forty
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  six door camera. Question and that's the one outside of
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  ten South. Answer. Yeah. That's the only reason I know
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  that is because the first day they came, they were
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  looking for video. There was no video, and they were like,
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  you've got to find the video. Question who is they
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  answer the FBI? And then I stayed later that day
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  and the night and I was trying to look to
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  see what was recording. And that's when I figured out
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  that forty six door was actually recording on ten South.
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  Question the ninth or the tenth. The tenth is the
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  day that he was found. Answer. I think it was
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  in the morning. The next day when I came in
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  the first thing in the morning. Question So on Saturday
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  it looks like answer Saturday. Yeah, because I had to
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  think about what was going on. And also that day
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  they made me move over the camera that we're recording,
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  put them on different recorders. It was like a mess. Question, Now,
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  were there any cameras recordings or hard drives or anything
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  that were sent to try to have the recordings recovered. Answer, Well,
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  the whole thing with everything not recording that day was
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  the way the system works, and we want to work
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  with the vendor and the FBI because they had to
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  talk to the way the system works is if the
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  two drives are bad, it's not going to start recording video.
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  It's not going to go on a different drive where
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  you're going to see bits and pieces a video from
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  that day. You might see old video, but as far
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  as new video from that day, whenever it went bad,
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  you're not going to see any video. Alright, folks, we're
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  gonna wrap up right there, and in the next episode
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  dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
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