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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 164 | Previewing Jaguars Week 2 Matchup + Around the AFC South · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag zon this morning on Penani Stevens, Brian section,
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Speaker 1: John Osier with me. We also have a special guest
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Speaker 1: host will introduce in a moment. But Jaguar's riding high
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Speaker 1: on that week one win, but also turning the page
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Speaker 1: as we start to look towards Cincinnati this weekend. It's
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Speaker 1: still of some of the big things here today on
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Speaker 1: jag z Am, starting off with Trader James as a
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Speaker 1: big trade went down on Monday evening, becoming official on Tuesday. Brian,
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Speaker 1: but we talked about that crowded running back room, not
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Speaker 1: as crowded now, thanks by we traded up to Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: for a couple of draft picks to come back.
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Speaker 2: We surprised by the move, No, I think it made
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Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And Ryan O'Halleran woke this in
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Speaker 2: the column, so I got to give him credit. Back
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Speaker 2: in mid August, Listen, it was too much value for
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars to pass on, to be able to take
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Speaker 2: a running back for whom there were not going to
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Speaker 2: be a substantial amount of carries, and to move him
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Speaker 2: for a fifth and sixth round pick next year. Now
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Speaker 2: they have thirteen picks. They have three in the third,
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Speaker 2: they've got two in the fourth, they've got two in
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Speaker 2: the fifth, they've got four in the seventh. That's great
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Speaker 2: value and that's what they were looking for overall. Remember
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Speaker 2: Travis etn is playing on the fifth year option and
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Speaker 2: is likely, no matter how good a year he has
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Speaker 2: this year, to be playing somewhere else because the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: used draft choices on ba shal Touton and Lequin Allen Junior.
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Speaker 2: The future here is set on those two guys. So
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Speaker 2: to be able to take Tank Bigsby and flip him
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Speaker 2: into two picks and put him in a situation where
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Speaker 2: he'll be happy in Philadelphia where they run the ball
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Speaker 2: a lot makes a lot of sense, James.
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Speaker 1: That's und certainly not afraid to make any trades and
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Speaker 1: now stacking up those picks. So we'll have to see
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Speaker 1: what that turns into. Big thing Number two today is
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Speaker 1: going to be tail of the taste. Obviously, take the
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Speaker 1: first half of the week to look back at that
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Speaker 1: game against the Panthers and while Brian Thomas Senior did
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Speaker 1: have a touchdown a Russian touchdown, he only had one
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Speaker 1: reception and he wasn't overly involved. Coach Coon talked a
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Speaker 1: little bit about some of the miscommunications between Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: and Brian Thomasior.
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Speaker 3: I think we try to get him a touch on
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Speaker 3: the first or second drive of the game, first play
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Speaker 3: of the game, right, we don't convert it, throw him
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Speaker 3: a screen low doesn't come down with it. And then
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Speaker 3: the flow of the game, we missed him on an
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Speaker 3: inbreaker which he had a lot of room to run,
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Speaker 3: missed him on a corner route where he was fairly open,
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Speaker 3: and then missed you know, had the one on the
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Speaker 3: out of bounds. So you're talking about that's five catches
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Speaker 3: right there. That gets him into the flow of it.
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Speaker 3: It's just the way the game went, and you know,
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Speaker 3: we got to details of route running, timing, depth, the
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Speaker 3: quarterback protection, everything goes into it. So I fully anticipate
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Speaker 3: him being able to get going John.
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Speaker 1: We's also success from the running backs in this game,
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Speaker 1: and even Trevor Lawrence running around a little bit. Brian
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Speaker 1: Thomas Enior had a rushing touchdown. But how do they
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Speaker 1: get more involved? Is it just getting on the same
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Speaker 1: page again with Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is sort of a first world problem.
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Speaker 5: You know, he won twenty six to ten, and I
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Speaker 5: thought Trevor in the first half had a lot of
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Speaker 5: good throws and a lot of good reads throwing the
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Speaker 5: ball downfield, and you got Jammy Brown involved. They tried
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Speaker 5: to get BTJ involved in the first play. I think
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Speaker 5: he has six or seven targets. I think there. I
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Speaker 5: think they'll continue to try to get everybody involved early.
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Speaker 4: And then after that.
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Speaker 5: I really think the reality of this offense is gonna
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Speaker 5: be You've got Travis Hunter, who's pretty good. You've got
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Speaker 5: Yammi Brown it's pretty good. You've got running backs pretty good,
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Speaker 5: You've got printing strange. I don't know that there's going
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Speaker 5: to be a huge serge or a huge need of
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Speaker 5: We've got to target Brian Thomas Junior seven or eight
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Speaker 5: times a game in order to be successful, and I
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Speaker 5: think it's a problem to take care of itself. He's
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Speaker 5: really good. The ball's gonna find him and he's gonna
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Speaker 5: have his games. But it's not gonna be last year
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Speaker 5: where mac Jones was feeding him twelve times a game.
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Speaker 5: That's not good and it's not necessary in this offense.
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Speaker 1: We'll have to see how things evolve as the season
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Speaker 1: goes along. But good point, he did get a lot
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Speaker 1: of targets last year because he was the only option.
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Speaker 1: So now we'll do our final big thing today, which
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Speaker 1: is on to Cincinnati midweek. Start turning the page looking ahead.
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Speaker 1: Next opponent, it's going to be the Bengals. Now we're
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Speaker 1: gonna bring in our extra host today, marked up their
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Speaker 1: former linebackers fast to the Dagwars, but also a former
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Speaker 1: friends assistant with the Cincinnati Bengals. So we talked a
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Speaker 1: little bit about the defense pre show. We talked they
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Speaker 1: played great against the Panthers. Different story when you take
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Speaker 1: on the Bengals. A lot of targets there that are
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Speaker 1: of a different colgo. When we talked about Jamar Hayes
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Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase and T Higgins. So what are the
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Speaker 1: Daguars defenders going to be up for this week?
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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what. Thank you guy for letting
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Speaker 6: me be with you. They're loaded in terms of weapons.
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Speaker 6: I mean, shoot, when you look at what Jamar Chase
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Speaker 6: has meant to their offense, T Higgins, Mike Yoseki, they
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Speaker 6: added Noah Fant at tight end. The fact too that
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Speaker 6: in the running game they've had Chase Brown now active
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Speaker 6: in terms of both a runner and a receiver. So
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Speaker 6: they've got weapons across the board and speed and they're
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Speaker 6: gonna distribute that. In this past game again, their opening
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Speaker 6: game against Cleveland, they struggled a little bit. They didn't
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Speaker 6: meet their standard. So we're gonna get their best shot
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Speaker 6: in terms of what Joe burrowin the offense and company
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Speaker 6: are gonna try to present to the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, we're happy to have you here. Mark.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more specifically about what
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Speaker 1: the Bengals bringing to the table and week tune what
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are gonna need to do to get a
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Speaker 1: Am here midweek. We're getting ready for week two already,
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Speaker 1: but we should still enjoy the victory from week one.
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Speaker 1: We try to turn the page and get prepared though.
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Speaker 1: Mark Dufner joining us today and a perfect time for
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Speaker 1: you to join us. Obviously a longtime coach to the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: but you were in Cincinnati as well, so we can
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Speaker 1: kind of pick your brain a little bit about what's
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Speaker 1: going on in Cincinnati this week.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm happy to share with you right now, and
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Speaker 6: I know for a fact right now that they're in there.
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Speaker 6: Even though today is an off day for the players
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Speaker 6: at the offensive particularly the offensive players are receivers, a quarterback,
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Speaker 6: they're all in there in the walk through where going
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Speaker 6: through their footwork, catching tennis balls, doing all the little
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Speaker 6: things to try to improve their game, to up their skills.
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Speaker 6: So they didn't I think they felt like they didn't
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Speaker 6: meet their standard coming out in the first game against
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Speaker 6: the Browns. It's in terms of explosive plays and things
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Speaker 6: of that nature. So they're in there working hard right
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Speaker 6: now in full respect for the challenge playing the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Tell us about Joe Burrow. We've talked at length about
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Speaker 2: him on the practice field. He's one of those guys
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Speaker 2: that because the Bengals haven't gone deep into the playoffs
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Speaker 2: except that one Super Bowl year, people tend to forget
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Speaker 2: that when you talk about Mahomes and Josh Allen and
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow is right there at the top with.
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Speaker 6: Them, absolutely, And I'll tell you right now. I'm very
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Speaker 6: pleased that I had the opportunity to be around this guy.
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Speaker 6: I mean the attention to detail he does, competitiveness to work, ethic,
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Speaker 6: the study, the leadership, trying to improve his skills that
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Speaker 6: he does just off the charts. He is as tough
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Speaker 6: as they come. I called him Buckets because he'd go
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Speaker 6: into the games and he'd take shots, and he put
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Speaker 6: himself out there to try to make plays and to
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Speaker 6: move the offense in a way I haven't changed, so
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Speaker 6: I never could try to crack in the guy in
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Speaker 6: terms of something that wasn't good, wasn't something that I
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Speaker 6: highly respect him.
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Speaker 7: I mean he is off the chart.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, full disclosure.
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Speaker 5: Outside of the fifty three players for the Jaguar, he's
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Speaker 5: my favorite.
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Speaker 4: NFL player right now. I love the way the guy plays.
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Speaker 5: And if I'm wondering from Afar, my sense is this
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Speaker 5: is a guy that maybe everybody in.
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Speaker 4: Their locker room doesn't love him or is his best friend.
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Speaker 4: Maybe he is.
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Speaker 5: My guess is he doesn't care about that, And my
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Speaker 5: guess is he's a guy that everybody in that locker
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Speaker 5: room believes as long as he's in the game, they
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Speaker 5: have a chance to win him at his score.
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Speaker 4: He's that kind of inspirational.
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Speaker 6: Leader without a doubt, John, I mean, there's no doubt
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Speaker 6: about that. I know they go as Joe goes, and
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Speaker 6: they're gonna follow him anywhere, any place, and they have
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Speaker 6: great respect for him.
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Speaker 7: You're right, he doesn't really care about anybody else, thinks.
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Speaker 6: His focus and his determination and trying to make the Jaguar,
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Speaker 6: I mean, make the Bengals be the best they possibly
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Speaker 6: can be.
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Speaker 7: As off the.
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Speaker 1: Chart we talked a little bit about them. They've had
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Speaker 1: slow starts right to the season before, probably didn't play
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Speaker 1: the way that they wanted to play last week against
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Speaker 1: the Browns, still got the win. You can't underestimate them
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Speaker 1: going in though, because Joe Burrow has the ability to
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Speaker 1: kind of flip that switch.
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Speaker 6: Without a doubt. And I promise you, like I said,
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Speaker 6: we're gonna get their best shot. I promise you that
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Speaker 6: they're happy to be one. And oh, they kind of
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Speaker 6: got that monkey off their back, but they didn't, don't.
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Speaker 6: I know, they don't think they played as well across
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Speaker 6: the board offensively or defensive as they think they can
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Speaker 6: and they want to try to rectify that. No matter
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Speaker 6: who their playing, their focus is it's really about us,
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Speaker 6: meaning they're thinking about the Bengals and how they can
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Speaker 6: get better on offense, defense and special teams, and I
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Speaker 6: suspect it's a scene for us right now on the
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Speaker 6: Jaguars down there downstairs as they're prepared, and it's about us.
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Speaker 6: How we can get better at moving the ball, how
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Speaker 6: we get better at stopping them, how we can get
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Speaker 6: better at field positions and special teams.
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Speaker 7: All those will be the focus this week.
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Speaker 2: If you were in the meeting room here and on
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Speaker 2: the practice field here, how would you advise teams this
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Speaker 2: team to get ready for Jamar Chase and t Higgins.
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Speaker 6: Well, you you know, you've got to still rely on
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Speaker 6: your fundamentals.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think if you get too you.
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Speaker 6: Know, over anxious about what they're gonna do, you're gonna
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Speaker 6: lose focus and they're gonna beat you badly as far
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Speaker 6: as that's concerned. So you're gonna have to still rely
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Speaker 6: on fundamentals, have your eyes where they've got to be,
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Speaker 6: Concentrate on understanding what your job is, and do your job.
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Speaker 6: They're tough, you know, I've never seen Jamar Chase get
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Speaker 6: taggled by the first defender ever and I mean, this
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Speaker 6: guy can make you miss in a minute, and that's terrific.
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Speaker 6: And then t Higgins always says a way of coming
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Speaker 6: up to make the play. He'll go up and get
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Speaker 6: the ball when you don't think he can. So fundamentals
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Speaker 6: being where you should be. In other words, executing a defense.
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Speaker 6: Execution is going to be paramount against these guys. And
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Speaker 6: and Burrow has a way of finding ways to win.
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Speaker 6: You know, he's he finds the guys and so all
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Speaker 6: those things.
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Speaker 7: It's gonna challenge.
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Speaker 6: Every team that plays him to be at their best.
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Speaker 6: Henderson highly competitive guy. Trey is another one right now
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Speaker 6: that he thinks he can't be blocked. I promise you
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Speaker 6: he's another one that's in there today when they don't
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Speaker 6: have to be studying working on movement, is get off
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Speaker 6: all the little things that are going to make a difference.
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Speaker 6: So again, he commands your attention, that's for sure. And
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Speaker 6: he not only in terms of pass rushing, effecting the quarterback.
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Speaker 6: He can set the edge and you know, play good
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Speaker 6: run defense too. So and they used him a lot
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Speaker 6: in the game. I watched that game closely. He played
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Speaker 6: over fifty snaps more than you might think in terms
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Speaker 6: of an elite pass rusher, and he helped him as
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Speaker 6: far as that's concerned. So he's certainly a guy that
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Speaker 6: will command our offense's attention.
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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about what Liam Cohen did
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Speaker 1: in that in that Week one contest in terms of
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Speaker 1: play calling. If you were kind of trying to game
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Speaker 1: plan for that offense, is that something you look at
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Speaker 1: just week one? Do you look at what he did
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Speaker 1: in Tampa all of it together, or do you focus
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Speaker 1: on something else?
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Speaker 7: No, I think what you ask is a great question.
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Speaker 6: Ky I would focus on what he did in Tampa,
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Speaker 6: especially in the latter part of the season, and then
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Speaker 6: clearly in this first game, and he showed a lot
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Speaker 6: of what his DNA is and really, I mean in
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Speaker 6: the first drive of the game the other day. So
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Speaker 6: they're going to run the football, they're gonna be physical,
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Speaker 6: they're gonna challenge you with distribution of the ball, quick throws, screens,
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Speaker 6: he ran four screens. He's gonna challenge you with bootleg pass,
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Speaker 6: faking the run and having a quarterback get out on
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Speaker 6: the move. And then he's got all these weapons now
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Speaker 6: that you've added. So I think that again, you know,
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Speaker 6: Al Golden's going to have his hands full with what
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Speaker 6: he sees from this offense, and he'll be very organized
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Speaker 6: in detail too, and his approach trying.
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Speaker 7: To stop it.
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Speaker 2: Thought that the Jaguars, they're obviously the more physical team
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Speaker 2: on Sunday, but I thought they display the physical ability,
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Speaker 2: the physicality as coaches like to say, to be able
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Speaker 2: to line up and play that way every Sunday. How
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Speaker 2: hard is that to do.
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Speaker 7: It's tough. It can be tough, you know, there's no
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Speaker 7: doubt about that. Where in Terear.
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Speaker 6: It takes on your body, the mental state of mind
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Speaker 6: you've got to be to be a fit in the
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Speaker 6: most physical team. But that's where it's won. And they
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Speaker 6: won the game in the trenches the other day in
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Speaker 6: terms of you saw it in terms of the run game.
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Speaker 6: You saw it in terms of pass protection. I'm talking
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Speaker 6: about the offensive line, no hits on the or one
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Speaker 6: hit on the quarterback, no shacks the defense, in terms
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Speaker 6: of rallying to get the run game stopped.
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Speaker 7: So that I think it's tough to do.
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Speaker 6: But that's a challenge teams that want to be great
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Speaker 6: have to meet.
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Speaker 5: You know, def I haven't had a chance to talk
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Speaker 5: to you much since you've been working with us. I
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Speaker 5: know you've been digging deep into the Jaguars and probably
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Speaker 5: like studying for an exam, right, like learning this team defensively,
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Speaker 5: give me one thing that just sort of stands out
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Speaker 5: about this defense that you'll like.
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Speaker 7: Well. I really liked their energy and effort. There was
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Speaker 7: good pursuit in the game.
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Speaker 6: They're tackling for the first game I thought was excellent,
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Speaker 6: and that's critical critical components.
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Speaker 7: You win with fundamentals, and I saw them out there.
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Speaker 7: They gave up maybe.
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Speaker 6: Three explosive plays, one on a quarterback scramble. And when
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Speaker 6: you have little or few explosive plays, that means assignment wise,
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Speaker 6: guys are in the right spot. You don't have coverage
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Speaker 6: bus or misfits.
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Speaker 7: In the run game, Jew but I.
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Speaker 6: Think had one run that was over fifteen yards, and
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Speaker 6: that can happen.
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Speaker 7: He aren't a good runner.
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Speaker 6: But I was impressed with their alignment, assignment adjustment, which
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Speaker 6: they had addressed in the preseason. I was impressed with
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Speaker 6: their ability to get the ball off them. They got
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Speaker 6: three takeaways, which three generally equate to a win. They
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Speaker 6: had fourth down stops twice. I think that were again
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Speaker 6: critical and of course of the game, the offense scored
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Speaker 6: ten points off the takeaways, So I really liked what
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Speaker 6: I saw, you know, totally. I liked how hard they played,
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Speaker 6: They seemed to trust each other. I like the way
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Speaker 6: that Anthony called the game to run in our pressure
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Speaker 6: and coverage together, where the quarterback as the game went on,
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Speaker 6: had his eyes trying to find a rush.
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Speaker 7: And struggle in terms of being able to move the ball.
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Speaker 1: Just a nice change of pays on defense to see
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Speaker 1: what they've turned into talking about it in the training
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Speaker 1: camp and seeing it executed in week one. Mark, thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us so far. We're going to talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about the division as we check in
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Speaker 1: go Jags. Looking back into Jags Am here midweek as
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Speaker 1: we're looking back a little bit on last week, but
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Speaker 1: also looking forward now, we're going to look a little
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Speaker 1: bit around the AFC South and see what went down
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Speaker 1: within the division, so we'll know where everybody's at. First
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Speaker 1: of all, John, the Colts beats Dolphins and boo them out.
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Speaker 1: But the Colts really good or the Dolphins really bad
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Speaker 1: or combo both.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's so hard to tell and not definitely tell
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Speaker 5: you this too week one. It's so hard to draw
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Speaker 5: a conclusion like that. My senses, they may be a
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Speaker 5: little similar to the Jaguars, who beat a team that
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Speaker 5: I feel like they should have beaten handled business, which
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Speaker 5: is what you want to do. It feels a little
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Speaker 5: bit like the Dolphins may be in for a struggle
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Speaker 5: this year.
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Speaker 4: But the Colts, I think there was some inspiration involved.
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Speaker 5: They had a halftime ceremony for Jim Mersey, so I
15:24
Speaker 5: think there was some adrenaline there in the building for that.
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Speaker 4: Peyton was back, so I mean there was a little
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Speaker 4: bit of energy there.
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Speaker 5: But look, the Colts were a good team last year
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Speaker 5: that really never figured out the quarterback position. Daniel Jones
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Speaker 5: could be sort of a renaissance story, so this may be.
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Speaker 4: There may be legit maybe something to watching him. Listen.
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Speaker 2: I thought that Daniel Jones was a solid contributor of
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Speaker 2: addition in the offseason because of Jonathan Taylor Duff and
15:55
Speaker 2: when you look at Jonathan Taylor. He is an outstanding
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Speaker 2: running back. And because they've struck in Indian he's had
16:02
Speaker 2: an ankle injury that has kind of lingered through the
16:04
Speaker 2: last two or three seasons, people may have forgotten how
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Speaker 2: good he is. But when you have a competent quarterback
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Speaker 2: who has that kind of a running back behind him,
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Speaker 2: and the Colts offensive line, he's still fundamentally a good group.
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Speaker 2: They're going to be a hard out. They're going to
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Speaker 2: be a really difficult team for people to handle because
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Speaker 2: that quarterback can move too.
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Speaker 6: No question, Daniel Jones played like Indiana Jones. I mean
16:25
Speaker 6: Jesus Pete. He found ways to make plays and they
16:27
Speaker 6: made him in bunches. And then on defense, I mean
16:31
Speaker 6: that game was dominant early on for the defense that
16:34
Speaker 6: lou Ana Roumo dialed up for them.
16:35
Speaker 7: I mean, Miami.
16:36
Speaker 6: Couldn't move the ball, lick, And so I thought that
16:39
Speaker 6: really the Colts offense and defense working together really put
16:42
Speaker 6: forth a tremendous effort and held on to that thing
16:45
Speaker 6: almost for the whole sixty minutes.
16:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I saw that the Colts were
16:50
Speaker 2: the first teams it's nineteen seventy seven to score on
16:52
Speaker 2: every one of their possessions in a single game.
16:54
Speaker 7: Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it was unbelievable.
16:56
Speaker 6: I'm glad I wasn't on the other side of that now,
16:58
Speaker 6: but I mean that was very efficient production on offense
17:03
Speaker 6: from defense for the Colt start.
17:04
Speaker 1: NOWT definitely not a fun spot to be from Miami,
17:06
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Let's look at the Texans a little bit.
17:09
Speaker 1: A lot of people's favorites to win the division but
17:12
Speaker 1: drop their season.
17:13
Speaker 4: Opener to the Rams.
17:15
Speaker 1: Some struggles on offense for CJ. Stroud and just their
17:19
Speaker 1: defense is obviously very good, but their offense has a
17:22
Speaker 1: lot of holes. Brian and we talked about that offensive
17:24
Speaker 1: line with a deal with injuries as well, that's been
17:28
Speaker 1: hurting them.
17:28
Speaker 2: More well, and Duff can talk about Joe Mixon and
17:32
Speaker 2: what he needs, and he's obviously out right now and
17:34
Speaker 2: that has hurt them.
17:35
Speaker 1: But I was.
17:37
Speaker 2: Impressed by what I saw from Mit Chubb, who has
17:40
Speaker 2: had serious d jury in the last two years, and
17:42
Speaker 2: he had a couple of ten yard runs. I think
17:44
Speaker 2: he had thirteen carries for sixty yards. If he can
17:47
Speaker 2: come back and keep them balanced, you can keep CJ.
17:50
Speaker 2: Stroud on his feet and then I mean he's an
17:52
Speaker 2: electrofnic player. We know that mix it out really hurts
17:56
Speaker 2: them though.
17:56
Speaker 7: No doubt.
17:57
Speaker 6: I mean Joe is an outstanding back both protection and
18:00
Speaker 6: coming out of the backfield, catching them just running the ball.
18:02
Speaker 7: I'd love having that opportunity to be with him.
18:06
Speaker 6: But what you said about Chubb is strong too. That
18:08
Speaker 6: guy into a pain that back then too. All he
18:12
Speaker 6: does is go north and south and make plays and
18:14
Speaker 6: getting sixty six yards whatever it was, and the ballgame
18:16
Speaker 6: was again a productive DESIPI.
18:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be interesting to me to see what the
18:21
Speaker 5: texting has become. Offensively, Stroud has some comments after the
18:24
Speaker 5: game about, you know, we were lilly gagging a little bit.
18:26
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm paraphrasing it, and I called a.
18:29
Speaker 4: Wake up call.
18:31
Speaker 5: They had trouble last year sort of becoming what they
18:34
Speaker 5: wanted to be offensively. So they're an interesting storyline. I
18:39
Speaker 5: think they are the favorite in the division. They're a
18:42
Speaker 5: physical team and when these two teams play in a
18:44
Speaker 5: couple of weeks, that's gonna.
18:45
Speaker 4: Be where it's decided. But CJ.
18:47
Speaker 5: Stroud and that offense, they're dangerous because he's really good.
18:52
Speaker 4: When can they get to what they want to be.
18:55
Speaker 4: It feels like that's their challenge early.
18:56
Speaker 2: Well, and they're undergoing some sort of a metamorphosis at
18:59
Speaker 2: white receiver. I mean, Stefon Diggs has moved on. He's
19:01
Speaker 2: playing in New England this year. And Tangdell suffered that
19:05
Speaker 2: horrendous injury in the playoff game in Kansas City last year.
19:08
Speaker 2: And Nico Collins, who is a Pro Bowl caliber player
19:10
Speaker 2: and a really difficult guy to handle, was a non
19:13
Speaker 2: factor in Los Angeles. And I didn't see the game,
19:16
Speaker 2: so I don't know whether it's because they just tilted
19:18
Speaker 2: everything in his direction. It would make sense when the
19:20
Speaker 2: other two guys aren't there, go get Nico Collins and
19:23
Speaker 2: get him out of the game. But right now they've
19:25
Speaker 2: got question marks at receiver. Dn Schultz, their tight end
19:28
Speaker 2: is their number one target.
19:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some frustration there. That'll be interesting to see
19:32
Speaker 4: how they You hope that they don't figure it out
19:35
Speaker 4: until week four.
19:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, amen to that, John, What you say is right.
19:39
Speaker 6: I already looked at that film. Yeah, and they just
19:41
Speaker 6: couldn't get in rhythm and they just and that a
19:43
Speaker 6: lot of it was they were stopping themselves, you know,
19:46
Speaker 6: no disrespected the opponent, but in the rams, but they
19:49
Speaker 6: stopped themselves.
19:50
Speaker 7: So they're struggling right now.
19:52
Speaker 6: We hope that it becomes an internal itch on them.
19:54
Speaker 6: Right now, part of the offensive line, as you talk about.
19:58
Speaker 6: I think their center was banged up a little bit.
19:59
Speaker 6: They had tackle another player got hurt, so it starts
20:02
Speaker 6: there too, But they just didn't get in sync.
20:04
Speaker 7: And we hope that continues.
20:05
Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't think Christian Kirk is
20:06
Speaker 2: supposed to play for the first month.
20:07
Speaker 1: Of the season as well, which you know can linger
20:11
Speaker 1: with him sometimes that he's been injured a couple times
20:13
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons here in Jacksonville. All right,
20:16
Speaker 1: let's close things out the Titans. Cam Ward makes his debut.
20:20
Speaker 1: I think made some good decisions. Obviously, with a rookie quarterback.
20:23
Speaker 1: Do you try to just pressure him.
20:24
Speaker 6: As much as you can, try to do everything you
20:27
Speaker 6: can to make sure he's not can't see things you
20:30
Speaker 6: want Sure, we want to disguise him. We want to
20:32
Speaker 6: get him wondering what's going on, so we can't produce sure.
20:36
Speaker 4: So he had some strong throws, stayed in the pocket.
20:38
Speaker 1: He has some strong arm. But Calvin Ridley had a
20:40
Speaker 1: couple of drops, had a couple other drops from his
20:42
Speaker 1: wide receivers. That makes it hard as a rookie quarterback
20:45
Speaker 1: when you're already going up against that. But Denver Broncos
20:49
Speaker 1: defense tough too, So the Titans fault for the Broncos
20:51
Speaker 1: in their season opener as well.
20:54
Speaker 2: Well, I think correct if I'm wrong. He got sacked
20:56
Speaker 2: six times. He was never able to set his feet
20:59
Speaker 2: and be comfortable because the Broncos defensive front is really
21:02
Speaker 2: good and the Titans offensive line, you know, they brought
21:05
Speaker 2: in the big tackle from Pittsburgh. They's pent sixty million
21:09
Speaker 2: bucks on him, and they have the right tackle that
21:11
Speaker 2: they dropped from Alabama last year. But they're still in
21:14
Speaker 2: flux with their offensive line, and you know, doctor trying
21:16
Speaker 2: to make the transition from cave man football where they
21:19
Speaker 2: just beat the hell out of you with Derek Henry
21:21
Speaker 2: right to a more modern offense that doesn't happen.
21:24
Speaker 7: Overnight, not even close.
21:26
Speaker 6: And that's it again, getting everybody to gel together right now.
21:29
Speaker 6: I mean they they struggled running the football. Like you said,
21:32
Speaker 6: Denver gave that quarterback a lot of different looks, so
21:35
Speaker 6: as you said, he couldn't get set right now, he's
21:37
Speaker 6: got feeling pressure, he's getting hit six sacks. I mean,
21:40
Speaker 6: it was just again trying to get going. Anything get
21:43
Speaker 6: going was uphill and toughs lading for him.
21:45
Speaker 4: I only saw highlights. The highlights I saw.
21:47
Speaker 5: Late involved a really good Denver defense with a rookie
21:52
Speaker 5: quarterback who at times late was fleshed enough that he held
21:55
Speaker 5: the ball too long, which is sort of if you're
21:59
Speaker 5: writing the script.
21:59
Speaker 4: For that game, how that's gonna go would have been
22:01
Speaker 4: how you thought. But it looked to me like.
22:05
Speaker 5: The first three or four games you expect that from
22:08
Speaker 5: rooky quarterback Like that, he looked like the arrows up,
22:11
Speaker 5: you know.
22:12
Speaker 6: I think the other thing that rookies don't understand until
22:14
Speaker 6: they get in the season is the speed of the game.
22:17
Speaker 6: It's a little different in preseason. Each and every week
22:20
Speaker 6: it gets faster, and then when you get into the
22:22
Speaker 6: season it picks up then and it picks up as
22:24
Speaker 6: the season goes on. So for young players, first time players,
22:28
Speaker 6: speed of all that's going on, it's hard to underestimate that.
22:31
Speaker 4: It came in a couple of players where it looked like, oh,
22:33
Speaker 4: that guy's here already.
22:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, no, that's right.
22:36
Speaker 4: That happens.
22:37
Speaker 7: Never good.
22:38
Speaker 1: All right, stick with us one more break and we'll
22:39
Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up the rest.
22:40
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Speaker 3: Some footwork things, you know, there was a couple on
22:57
Speaker 3: the mistargeted throws that you know, if you look at
23:01
Speaker 3: he's nineteen at thirty one. We missed four screens, no,
23:06
Speaker 3: three screens on O Maha to Diami on the right sideline,
23:12
Speaker 3: and then you talk about the one to BT. It's
23:15
Speaker 3: like a few of those, and he's twenty five at
23:17
Speaker 3: thirty one for two hundred plus. And now you're talking
23:22
Speaker 3: it's not about the stats, it's about the balance. You know,
23:25
Speaker 3: it's about the balance. And so if you're sitting there
23:28
Speaker 3: saying he could have been twenty five or thirty one
23:30
Speaker 3: for two hundred plus and you try to eliminate the turnover,
23:34
Speaker 3: you're sitting there saying he had a damn good game.
23:36
Speaker 3: So what's nice is that I thought he operated the
23:39
Speaker 3: offense really well. I thought he had a great command,
23:42
Speaker 3: He used his cadence. We got the free play response.
23:45
Speaker 3: There were some really good things that did show up.
23:50
Speaker 1: They tooked tween Cohen talking a little bit about what
23:52
Speaker 1: he saw when he looked at the tape of Trevor
23:54
Speaker 1: Lawrence's performance, described him as solid but obviously, pointing out
23:57
Speaker 1: a couple of throws that were missed, things that switch
24:00
Speaker 1: the tide on. It looks a lot better, Brian, when
24:03
Speaker 1: you looked back at Trevor's performance, solid.
24:06
Speaker 2: But more to do well the second half. Obviously he
24:11
Speaker 2: wasn't as efficient, and that's got to be The word
24:15
Speaker 2: is consistency, right, stuff. You've got to be consistent from
24:18
Speaker 2: the start of the game to the end of the game.
24:20
Speaker 2: And you can point to the long layoff or whatever
24:23
Speaker 2: it is. I don't know that anybody's made any excuses
24:26
Speaker 2: for it. But in the first half he was better
24:28
Speaker 2: than he was in the second. So there's a lot
24:30
Speaker 2: of upside there. And I think if you go back
24:32
Speaker 2: and look at last year when Liam was in Tampa,
24:35
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield really took off after Week four. That's when
24:38
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you started to go, wow, look
24:40
Speaker 2: at what he's doing. So there's a curve that we
24:44
Speaker 2: haven't quite got to yet, and John, part of that
24:47
Speaker 2: is you've got to get into the meeting rooms and
24:49
Speaker 2: you've got to make corrections, and you've got to coach,
24:51
Speaker 2: and you've got to get him closer to where you
24:53
Speaker 2: want him to be with respect to the offense and
24:56
Speaker 2: the game plan.
24:57
Speaker 5: Well, you can win with the guy in the first half.
24:59
Speaker 5: You can win with the guy in second half if
25:00
Speaker 5: you have a big lead. So he struggled in the
25:04
Speaker 5: third quarter. But I think the big thing with Trevor
25:08
Speaker 5: that you saw when it was going right and when
25:12
Speaker 5: they kept him out of the gray in the first half.
25:14
Speaker 5: Like Leam likes to talk about, they were throws he made.
25:17
Speaker 5: There were decisions he made. They were very positive. I
25:20
Speaker 5: thought it was a good way to build. But you
25:23
Speaker 5: can't have stretches like he had in the third quarter
25:26
Speaker 5: against the teams they're about to start playing from week
25:29
Speaker 5: two to week eight.
25:31
Speaker 1: All right, busy week coming up. Who are you guys
25:33
Speaker 1: talking to this week? What do you got going on?
25:35
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to have Jordan Lewis nasone podcast. I'm excited
25:39
Speaker 5: about it. I did not have him on it in
25:41
Speaker 5: the off season, and I have not a chance to
25:43
Speaker 5: talk to him a whole lot, but as impressive as
25:47
Speaker 5: you can be coming in as a free agent. And
25:50
Speaker 5: he's got a great story. What was almost a career
25:53
Speaker 5: ending injury in twenty three or so where he basically
25:55
Speaker 5: shattered his foot. And I'm not going to compare him
25:59
Speaker 5: to Kalais because that was a special.
26:01
Speaker 4: Thing in twenty seventeen.
26:03
Speaker 5: But this guy's impact as a leader as a free
26:06
Speaker 5: agent is pretty impressive.
26:07
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Sean Sharrott, the offensive line coach,
26:10
Speaker 2: and Duff we were talking about it. The offensive line
26:12
Speaker 2: in his first game together with a couple of new
26:15
Speaker 2: starters and a new coach and a new scheme. It's
26:18
Speaker 2: pretty impressive how physical they were able to play.
26:20
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, you got rush for two hundred yards.
26:22
Speaker 6: The quarterback doesn't get shocked, he gets one hit in
26:25
Speaker 6: the game. I mean, excellent, very very good as far
26:28
Speaker 6: as were concerned. A couple penalty things, but that's gonna happen.
26:31
Speaker 6: Some of that was just over aggression. But jeez, I
26:34
Speaker 6: think you'd be very happy with that guy.
26:36
Speaker 5: That's a good Sunday night for an offensive line coach, right, Yeah,
26:39
Speaker 5: absolutely it is.
26:40
Speaker 2: And you can appreciate the fact that offensive line coaches
26:42
Speaker 2: are interesting to talk to.
26:44
Speaker 4: You never know what you're getting, right.
26:46
Speaker 2: You might get the guy who's happy coming off of performance,
26:49
Speaker 2: but he might just be like they call him the
26:51
Speaker 2: mushroom society right there in the.
26:53
Speaker 7: Dark and get over it.
26:55
Speaker 2: He might be a little little crankedy. He might want
26:57
Speaker 2: his guys to play just a little bit harder, or
26:59
Speaker 2: you know, not be so full of themselves. I don't know.
27:01
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there, but offensive line coaches
27:04
Speaker 2: are the most interesting assistant coach interviews that I have
27:08
Speaker 2: ever done in thirty plus.
27:09
Speaker 5: Years of doing this.
27:10
Speaker 1: All the hard working out of the glory.
27:12
Speaker 5: Right.
27:12
Speaker 1: So it's a line as motto, Mark, you will be
27:14
Speaker 1: back on happy Hour. You've been on Thursday happy Hours
27:17
Speaker 1: with JP and Jeff. I imagine you'll have a full
27:20
Speaker 1: game plan by.
27:20
Speaker 7: Then for them looking forward to it.
27:22
Speaker 1: Yes, I will, absolutely, Well we have we're happy to
27:23
Speaker 1: have you on am.
27:24
Speaker 2: The doors right over there and you tell me where
27:25
Speaker 2: to walk in.
27:28
Speaker 6: To get out, well that's no saying.
27:35
Speaker 4: It's right there.
27:35
Speaker 2: If you want to come through it, come through.
27:36
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
27:37
Speaker 4: All right, Mark will be back for happy Hour.
27:38
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday. As well as we
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