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LETS TALK ABOUT WITH SHANETTE & CORNEL 7725 · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 1: Domum domum, don't do don dono.
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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention please? The
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Speaker 2: show starts in five life eight seven, six, five four
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Speaker 2: three two one go.
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Speaker 3: Thy wrong. Let's talk about it, and my host, Misiness
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Speaker 3: Sat johnsons he will be showing us here shortly, okay,
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Speaker 3: and we hope to have some guests coming in tonight
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Speaker 3: thus also on the show, and we will be talking
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Speaker 3: about the FI six rehabilitation program here at the Texas
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Speaker 3: Department of Come a Justice institutional division that the Parole
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Speaker 3: Board of the State of Texas has placed a lot
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Speaker 3: of individuals in. And it seems that they have taken
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Speaker 3: the wrong time because they have assigned so many thousands
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Speaker 3: of inmates in the FI six program that they don't
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Speaker 3: have enough bed so an individuals are being held in
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Speaker 3: confinement years and years years after receiving I to go home.
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Speaker 3: So tonight we're gonna be talking about the problems that's
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Speaker 3: affecting these individuals, that's you know, waiting and waiting and
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Speaker 3: waiting to go home, and how their families are feeling
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Speaker 3: about these programs that they have in place right now
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Speaker 3: and tonight, like I say, we're supposed to have some
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Speaker 3: guests coming on next door and they should be here shortly,
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Speaker 3: so my whole she should be joining us again soon.
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Speaker 3: But in the meantime, let me just give you a
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Speaker 3: little light on what's going on with the fbout six programs.
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Speaker 4: You're in the state of Texas. It used to be
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Speaker 4: that they were not granting us parole and people was
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Speaker 4: getting six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
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Speaker 3: Up to fifteen denials of parole.
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Speaker 4: So on a twenty year simmons, you were doing fifteen.
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Speaker 3: Years on twenty year Simmons, Wow, because they said denying
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Speaker 3: you parole. So with that, it turns out that they said, well, okay,
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Speaker 3: people started complaining about, you know, being denied parole for
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Speaker 3: over the same reasons nature of offense formation, parole violation,
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Speaker 3: or things of this nature, reasons that they cannot change.
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Speaker 3: So because they cannot change these reasons, the prole board
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Speaker 3: has been utilizing the same reasons year after year after year.
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Speaker 3: Some people are getting by your set off under these circumstances.
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Speaker 3: Either way, these individual parole board members started saying, well, okay,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna start granting you parole. But in the process
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Speaker 3: of granting the parole, they're are placing so many people
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Speaker 3: in this our six rehabilitation program, which means that a
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Speaker 3: person would have to wait until they get to the
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Speaker 3: program three months later or a year later, then start
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Speaker 3: the program, and then they have to wait five six
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Speaker 3: months just to get released. So these individuals are being
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Speaker 3: frustrated because they want to go home to their families.
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Speaker 3: They've done everything they could to show that they're already
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Speaker 3: for society. But here it is our parole board system,
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Speaker 3: a person, our governor, our stay representatives, our senators, and
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Speaker 3: nobody are doing anything to try to fix these problems.
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Speaker 3: So as of right now, we have so many people
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Speaker 3: who ungraduated, graduated months ago, and we're still here. Becose
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Speaker 3: the parole board are not set to the release dates,
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Speaker 3: so without them setting the release days, these people cannot
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Speaker 3: even you know, fantom when they're going to go. So,
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Speaker 3: as of right now, who's trying to figure out.
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Speaker 4: What is it that we need our governors to do,
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Speaker 4: our state.
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Speaker 3: Representatives to do, our senators to do, our parole board
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Speaker 3: directors to do, the Management training corporation to do. This
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Speaker 3: is a corporation who's investing in TDC. So now we're
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Speaker 3: trying to figure out how is it possible that if
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Speaker 3: on another unit, you've got the same program and you're
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Speaker 3: going by the protocols that if they get granted the
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Speaker 3: FI six and complete their program that they get they
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Speaker 3: answer the same data they complete the program to be released.
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Speaker 3: But here we are in the same program and we
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Speaker 3: have to wait until after we complete. Then we have
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Speaker 3: to wait two three months for them to sessitate.
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Speaker 4: To be released.
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Speaker 3: Then we have to be able to get released. Now,
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Speaker 3: for those that says stayed halfway houses, these individuals are
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Speaker 3: the ones who are suffering the most. Wow, because it's
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Speaker 3: taken up to six months just to get to the
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Speaker 3: halfway house after doing the completion of the program and
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Speaker 3: after waiting just to get to the halfway house. But
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Speaker 3: then not only that, after you complete the halfway house,
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Speaker 3: you have to go to another facility just to get
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Speaker 3: to society. So these issues right here are very sad.
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Speaker 3: They're very sad. Tell them, yeah, they're very sad. Man,
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Speaker 3: And we're trying to figure out. I'm trying to get
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Speaker 3: the guy to call y'all.
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Speaker 4: Now, Well, he said, the guy.
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Speaker 3: That was gonna come on tonight, he's saying that he
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Speaker 3: can't get in because he's not his own He don't
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Speaker 3: have no funds on the phone. So either way, man, tonight,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna shed light on some of the problems again,
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Speaker 3: like I say, and we're asking right now for somebody
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Speaker 3: and our government to fix these problems. We recently reached
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Speaker 3: out to missus Helma Johnson, miss Elma Allen, I mean
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Speaker 3: apologize miss Elma Allen, and asked her to see if
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Speaker 3: there's anything that she can do to try to fix
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Speaker 3: this problem. And we haven't heard much from her, but
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Speaker 3: she got the emails. So everybody that's for our government
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Speaker 3: that's a wealthy problems, ain't nobody really doing anything.
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Speaker 4: Much to fix them?
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Speaker 3: And we want to know what's going on, what seems
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Speaker 3: to be the problem. Why no one is trying to
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Speaker 3: help these individuals. We kind of back into society with
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Speaker 3: a proper mind, he said, mind with out knowing that
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Speaker 3: they've been held a year, two years after being granted
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Speaker 3: to parole. They have a thing called FI five, the
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Speaker 3: FI five program. Once you get granted your parole.
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Speaker 4: And complete your program, you go home the same way.
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Speaker 3: That they have on the other facility. Why is the
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Speaker 3: FI six totally different from that process? And we're trying
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Speaker 3: to find out what is it that we need to
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Speaker 3: do in order to help them.
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Speaker 4: Fix this program.
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Speaker 3: After Right now, our re entry program people are not
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Speaker 3: doing the thing that they can do to help and
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Speaker 3: not is the counselor is doing anything they can't do
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Speaker 3: to help wow, because they say they hand decided it's
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Speaker 3: only certain things that they can do and if they
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Speaker 3: do too must then they'll get fired. They're trying to
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Speaker 3: help us reintegrate back into society, but trying to give
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Speaker 3: us the resources me our birth certificate, our Social Security
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Speaker 3: card to help us try to get our job of license,
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Speaker 3: you know, seeing that the nature a job in society,
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Speaker 3: they will not let them come contact nobody by us
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Speaker 3: to help us realegrate back into society. So with this,
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Speaker 3: this is a big problem that needs to be fixed
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Speaker 3: all the way around. As to me for myself right now,
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Speaker 3: I made for oh in July last year last year,
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Speaker 3: and it took me three months to get here, and
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Speaker 3: then when I got here, I had to do the
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Speaker 3: six months and now here I am still waiting to
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Speaker 3: be released to society. I complete the program on the
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Speaker 3: fifteenth of July. For what happens after that, when will
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Speaker 3: I get a release date? That's the question, why are.
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Speaker 4: These people refusing to grant these people release they team immediately.
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Speaker 3: After they complete the program. There's no question that they
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Speaker 3: noticed you were in the program for six months. So
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Speaker 3: the classification division here should have a set up right
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Speaker 3: thereailable to know.
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Speaker 4: That he will complete on this day and that a
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Speaker 4: relief they should be said immediately after that.
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Speaker 3: But the councilors say they don't have no control or
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Speaker 3: low communication.
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Speaker 4: With the parole Board.
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Speaker 3: In order for these processes to take place. So with
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Speaker 3: that problem right there, ma'am, we are very very computing
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Speaker 3: that's what this program even stands for, because it's not
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Speaker 3: about rehabilitation. It can't be.
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Speaker 4: It's about capitalism.
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Speaker 3: Indytadors are being held months out and months years after
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Speaker 3: years after being approved for parole. So that we're asking
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Speaker 3: for the parole director, the rehabilitation director, the governor, the
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Speaker 3: state representative. It's in our Texas senators that's pushing for
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Speaker 3: anything regarding the parole board process or regarding anything that
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Speaker 3: has to do with.
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Speaker 4: TDC to fix this problem. That's what we're trying to do.
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Speaker 3: As of right now, ma'am. They got so many beds
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Speaker 3: in here that's empty, but they're placing people in the
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Speaker 3: programs that got dis charge day. You got a three
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Speaker 3: month discharge day. But you got a person sitting over
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Speaker 3: there in the units with a twenty five year centers
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Speaker 3: from MAP role and he's waiting to come to the program,
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Speaker 3: but he can't get to the program because they putting
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Speaker 3: people here that's been there. They got an FI three,
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Speaker 3: I mean a dis charge day. He'm going home anyway.
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Speaker 3: What about those that don't made for little find they
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Speaker 3: get to the program. We got so many bucks in
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Speaker 3: here empty, This unheard of for whow are they not
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Speaker 3: seeing any bunks up?
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Speaker 4: So these people can go home.
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Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to find out. What's wrong with
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Speaker 3: our sys and we.
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Speaker 4: Need to fix now.
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Speaker 3: So as I was seeking of earlier, the guys on
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Speaker 3: the other side that tried to get my attention to
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Speaker 3: see if they can come on the show. But obviously
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Speaker 3: guy said he didn't have no funds on the phone,
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Speaker 3: so this way he won't be able to come on
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Speaker 3: the show. But still, ma'am, we're gonna go on with
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Speaker 3: the show and we're going to show that you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, that these issues exist. It's just like
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Speaker 3: now with the parole voice system. These DoD markings on
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Speaker 3: the five deny of people parolee by marking out of
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Speaker 3: their points is the number. It's unheard of because that
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Speaker 3: right there is allowing the State of Texas to hold
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Speaker 3: an individual.
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Speaker 4: Year after year after year for as.
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Speaker 3: Long as they want to, even after they met the
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Speaker 3: criterias to make parole. Who authorized them to mark out
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Speaker 3: that boy system number? Because the legislators and activis point system,
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Speaker 3: but the legislator did not give them that power to
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Speaker 3: mark it out. So why is it that the legislators
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Speaker 3: notice they didn't give them.
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Speaker 4: Their power, it's still allowed for them to do this.
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Speaker 3: This is unheard of. This is all right. Boundaries are
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Speaker 3: suffering of the loss of their love. Were't begging for
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Speaker 3: them to come home, you know, Otter, They them did
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Speaker 3: everything in their power to do right by the system
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Speaker 3: and steal. Our system is failing these individuals. So tonight
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Speaker 3: we're asking for anybody that's listening to this podcast in
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Speaker 3: the state of Texas to contact your state representatives, contact
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Speaker 3: your senators, contact your parole board director, your governor, anybody
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Speaker 3: who's willing to stand up and support us and show
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Speaker 3: that the State of Texas or as the prison system
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Speaker 3: and the parole bar system and our criminal justice system
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Speaker 3: is broken, and we are commanding for it to be
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Speaker 3: fixed in any way that they can dix these programs.
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Speaker 3: I said, right now, ma'am, I've been there thirty five years,
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Speaker 3: and I've never seen anything so sad that nothing, because
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Speaker 3: back and to day, if you get a parole, he
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Speaker 3: was automatically going home and.
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Speaker 4: The parole wouldn't have no power to deny you when
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Speaker 4: you go on.
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Speaker 3: But they felt that that was the evolving dough and
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Speaker 3: that that was too easy, so they changed it along
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Speaker 3: with changing the sentence and guidelines. So now it's harder
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Speaker 3: to get out of the prison system and you have
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Speaker 3: to stay here longer in the prison system. Back then
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Speaker 3: you was doing two years and eighteen days on a
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Speaker 3: twenty year sentence. Now you're doing fifteen years on a
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Speaker 3: twenty year sentence. That's unheard of. That's how the system
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Speaker 3: has changed so dramatically for the worst. Our kids are
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Speaker 3: being held behind prison walls for a long periods of time,
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Speaker 3: when in fact, our sister is not doing anything to
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Speaker 3: help them realegrate back into society. And this is our
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Speaker 3: problem as of right now, me being here thirty five years.
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Speaker 3: I had to teach myself. I had to teach myself
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Speaker 3: because these systems that these programs that haven't played, they're
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Speaker 3: not teaching us anything in there nothing. All they're doing
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Speaker 3: is getting the money in order to keep going. Step
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Speaker 3: out to the Devin. The conditions didn't heal bad. They're
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Speaker 3: not utilizing the funds that the governors are given them.
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Speaker 4: To be able to fix these systems.
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Speaker 3: Instead if they're just kicking the can down their road,
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Speaker 3: get up to yet up and yet getting another grant.
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Speaker 3: So this reason we had to complain about that on
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Speaker 3: the demean guess say their felt me and yes they
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Speaker 3: did come to fix these systems.
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Speaker 4: But who's responsible for all of this?
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Speaker 3: Who's responsible for overseeing these problems? Is it the legislators?
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Speaker 3: Is it the governor? Is it the state representatives?
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Speaker 4: Who is it?
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Speaker 3: Because either way it.
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Speaker 4: Has to be fixed because.
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Speaker 3: Ten years from now it'll wors them before it get
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Speaker 3: any better if it keep going like this. So we
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Speaker 3: ask them for anybody that's willing to get involved off
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Speaker 3: to support us and stand up and demand for these
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Speaker 3: systems to be shamed. Okay, for our legislators to listen
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Speaker 3: to what we have to say. So I don't know
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Speaker 3: if my co hosts had come up back back on
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Speaker 3: or not, but if she had, I would like to,
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Speaker 3: you know, see if she would have anything she wanted
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Speaker 3: to add to this.
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Speaker 5: Good evening. I grew apologized for being late. As you
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Speaker 5: guys know, I work late graveyard, so I overstepped and
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Speaker 5: I do appreciate Cortnell for and Cortnell, uh you you
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Speaker 5: see something real quick, because I told you I was
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Speaker 5: trying to add the call so they can call and
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Speaker 5: let me see if we went to the right the
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Speaker 5: video thing, because they do. I would like for everyone
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Speaker 5: to hear from from the men's from Domingus. Give me,
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Speaker 5: give me a few minutes. So I'm trying to get
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Speaker 5: this up and going over anywhere.
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Speaker 3: On my side.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So let me ask you a question since you
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Speaker 5: asked the question earlier. You asked that question, why they're
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Speaker 5: not doing anything? Well, we know why they're not doing
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Speaker 5: anything because you look at the prison system. The prison system,
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Speaker 5: it started out as a million dollar industry and it
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Speaker 5: went to a billion dollar industry. Now it's a trillion
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Speaker 5: dollar industry. There's so much money being made through the
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Speaker 5: prison system every day that a person is helped in
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Speaker 5: prison the state get paid. You know, they would make
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Speaker 5: it seem like it costs so much, but they're getting
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Speaker 5: so much. They're making so much money off of it.
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Speaker 5: If you go and you look at it, and people
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Speaker 5: don't understand that these people are making money off of
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Speaker 5: people being in prison. They are making money off of
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Speaker 5: free labor. Because you ask me why you would have
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Speaker 5: individuals to sign in to be a part of these
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Speaker 5: different things that they go and be a part of.
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Speaker 5: They signing in like they go into jobs. Why because
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Speaker 5: somebody getting paid for something, whether you're going to work
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Speaker 5: the job or not. Somebody getting paid, somebody saying that
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Speaker 5: somebody doing something, and somebody getting paid because they wouldn't
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Speaker 5: have you feeling out forms as if you was going
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Speaker 5: to work. So there's a lot of stuff that goes
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Speaker 5: into play. I looked at not too long ago. Y'all
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Speaker 5: have a lot of prisons that are being ran privately.
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Speaker 5: You say, there's a program where y'all have whole prison
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Speaker 5: systems within y'all TDCJ that is being ran by private companies.
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Speaker 5: There's two right now that the state is getting ready
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Speaker 5: to take back over because they've been they've been ran
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Speaker 5: privately and they've been ran down. Evidently they have not
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Speaker 5: been doing what they were supposedly do. And see, that's
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Speaker 5: what happened when people get greedy for money. Because whenever,
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Speaker 5: whenever these people decided up in Tennessee that they could
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Speaker 5: run prison system better than the the prison system, that's
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Speaker 5: what the private prison system became. And I think that
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Speaker 5: was in It ain't been long ago. That was in
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Speaker 5: what the I want to say, nineteen eighty one might
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Speaker 5: have been when those two guys you talked about, two
20:17
Speaker 5: guys that didn't know nothing about no prison system. I
20:19
Speaker 5: think one of them was had something to do with
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Speaker 5: the government. He was, uh something representative or something. But
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Speaker 5: they had hospitals, they had different entities that sponsored their
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Speaker 5: these prison systems, these private prison systems. So then we
20:38
Speaker 5: wonder why the hospitals are so invested into the prison
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Speaker 5: system that because that's that's what they get. They can
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Speaker 5: get all they love, they specimens, they can get all
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Speaker 5: they they test, and they can run tests on y'all
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Speaker 5: because remind you, you are a ward of the state.
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Speaker 5: So these people are able to make so much money
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Speaker 5: off of just doing little stuff. They can draw your blood.
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Speaker 5: I remember you saying one time that they were just
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Speaker 5: getting blood, getting blood, getting blood, and you was wondering, like,
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Speaker 5: where's they getting all this blood from and what do
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Speaker 5: they need with it? They running tests, they doing their experiments,
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Speaker 5: they doing whatever, because you are a product of the state,
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Speaker 5: you know. And it's not just in Texas, it's everywhere.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: I heard somebody tell me that they didn't eat the
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Speaker 5: hot dogs that they served for for July because they
21:38
Speaker 5: gave them hot dogs because they said they saw on
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Speaker 5: the box and said not for human consumption. So they
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Speaker 5: experiment with everything. We see it so often, and it's
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Speaker 5: not their people that their experiment. You look at the
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Speaker 5: ratio of people inside these prison systems, the ratio of
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Speaker 5: us to them and us to other people. I mean,
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Speaker 5: it's two races that probably dominate the prison system. And
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Speaker 5: we all know that that's our Blks and our Hispanics.
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Speaker 5: And then we look at all of what's going on
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Speaker 5: in society right now. You know, our great president number
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Speaker 5: forty seven, he's so great. He's trying to wipe away
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Speaker 5: so much and take away so much and thinking that
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Speaker 5: it's hurting us as brown people, but it's not. You've
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Speaker 5: had your foot on our head and on our necks
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Speaker 5: for the last four hundred and something years. There's nothing
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Speaker 5: that y'all can do to us that's gonna make us
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Speaker 5: feel any less or any worthy. If we want to
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Speaker 5: know what is going on, we followed the money trail,
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Speaker 5: and that's with anything that's with anything, because if we
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Speaker 5: look at how a lot of this stuff even come about,
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Speaker 5: ain't none of us had no equipment, We had no ships,
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Speaker 5: we have no boats. We can bring none of this
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Speaker 5: stuff into these communities community, but yet it got there.
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Speaker 5: Just like now, there's an epidemic of drugs going throughout
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Speaker 5: the prison system, all of the prison system. I look
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Speaker 5: at videos every other day, people sending me videos of
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Speaker 5: individuals having these these six in these episodes from the
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Speaker 5: consumption of drugs. But how how when they can't go nowhere.
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Speaker 5: It ain't like they can pull up and order it.
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Speaker 5: Because they can't pull up and order it, So how
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Speaker 5: does it get inside of the prison system. It goes
24:01
Speaker 5: back to the head. If we start with the head
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Speaker 5: and get things in order, it'll begin to fall down.
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Speaker 5: When you hold people accountable, then they do what they're
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Speaker 5: supposed to do. But if they think you not watching,
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Speaker 5: and they think you don't care, they think they got
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Speaker 5: the upper hand, They're gonna continue to do what they're doing.
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Speaker 5: We see it every day. Just like if somebody don't
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Speaker 5: get a handle on this Camelo Anthony case, he's going
24:35
Speaker 5: to be another product of the system because what the
24:44
Speaker 5: public is doing right now, they're trying to taint the
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Speaker 5: jury and they're doing all kinds of stuff that makes
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Speaker 5: no sense because you can't tell me why is the
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Speaker 5: dad and the other twin a to go on these
25:00
Speaker 5: platforms and do the stuff that they're doing and that
25:03
Speaker 5: not be illegal, that not be against all of what
25:07
Speaker 5: is going on. Should not if you got a trial,
25:09
Speaker 5: you should not be all out here in the public
25:12
Speaker 5: doing all that. You should be waiting until your trial
25:15
Speaker 5: to the stuff come up and the case go for
25:19
Speaker 5: and then if you got something to say, that's when
25:21
Speaker 5: you get on there and you talk your talk after words.
25:25
Speaker 5: Could I okay, you know, I've been saying the same
25:35
Speaker 5: thing about since they then about here, that that baby's
25:42
Speaker 5: not going to get a cry. But a lot of
25:47
Speaker 5: people have been saying we need to say positive. You know,
25:51
Speaker 5: I've been saying positive by you know, but by talking
25:57
Speaker 5: to the men from texts and knowing their situation and
26:04
Speaker 5: how and with the experience with with Jerry's over there,
26:09
Speaker 5: it's going to be hard. We had to get a
26:14
Speaker 5: fair trick period after hearing what the record were spilling
26:21
Speaker 5: over there, that hatred, even coming from our own people,
26:27
Speaker 5: our own people, what I heard, I wouldn't. I mean,
26:34
Speaker 5: I was like, I had to come on social media
26:40
Speaker 5: after listening to what our own people were saying about
26:46
Speaker 5: that young man. They weren't saying that he deserves it,
26:55
Speaker 5: you know. So Cornell, are you familiar with that case.
27:08
Speaker 3: Case?
27:09
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, well yes, ma'am.
27:11
Speaker 3: I got a couple of guys over here who are
27:14
Speaker 3: very very familiar with that because they have friends of
27:18
Speaker 3: connected to the case. And I'm goring to call back
27:20
Speaker 3: and I will tell you what I know about this case. Man.
27:23
Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right, okay, you.
27:26
Speaker 5: Know, I mean, it was it was embarrassing listening to
27:35
Speaker 5: what are brown people was over there saying, you know, oh,
27:43
Speaker 5: we we stand behind we're standing behind the wrong person.
27:47
Speaker 5: You know, we're sending our money to the wrong person,
27:51
Speaker 5: the wrong family. They got him a public defender. I
27:56
Speaker 5: never seen that family, not once. Then before the cameras
28:02
Speaker 5: with a public defender. I ain't never seen that family
28:08
Speaker 5: or heard of anything about that family bond. I mean,
28:14
Speaker 5: it's just to justify it's to justify him calling people
28:18
Speaker 5: out of their names. Is to justify the fact that
28:22
Speaker 5: they got four go fundmeans and they can come on lives,
28:28
Speaker 5: they can come on TikTok because you know, when you
28:30
Speaker 5: go on them TikTok lives and you do these lives,
28:33
Speaker 5: you can make money off those lives. If you get
28:35
Speaker 5: so many likes and you get so many coins, you
28:37
Speaker 5: can make money off of that. So these people were
28:40
Speaker 5: live for fifteen hours. He sit over there and he
28:43
Speaker 5: was jumping from live to live to live to live
28:45
Speaker 5: to line and it's just makes no sense to me
28:50
Speaker 5: outside of being a money grab. I don't understand you.
28:54
Speaker 5: But you got four gofundmes, Why do you need that
28:56
Speaker 5: much money? And I'm sure these people are are donating,
29:01
Speaker 5: because we know how they donate. If they donated over
29:05
Speaker 5: a million dollars to that lady that called that child
29:09
Speaker 5: or the N word, and and they donated over a
29:12
Speaker 5: million dollars to her, you know, you know that these
29:16
Speaker 5: people don't care nothing about donating to foolishness. They don't
29:19
Speaker 5: care nothing about donating to stuff that that makes no sense.
29:22
Speaker 5: You could say videos don't lie, and you can look
29:28
Speaker 5: at these videos over and over again, the videos don't lie.
29:32
Speaker 5: Now time, have you seen Anthony family come over here
29:35
Speaker 5: to defend anything shitt Can you please tell me in
29:40
Speaker 5: time that you have seen anybody commit a crime in
29:46
Speaker 5: these news and be innocent and and and and they
29:50
Speaker 5: not and and and they come on there and talk
29:52
Speaker 5: about it and say anything about it. But if they knew,
29:55
Speaker 5: without a shadow of a doubt that Camelo Anthony was guilty,
30:00
Speaker 5: they would have gone drug that boy up under the rug.
30:02
Speaker 5: But see, they can't drag him. What they're doing right now,
30:05
Speaker 5: shouldn't if they stalling, they're trying to come figure out
30:08
Speaker 5: what other kind of charges they can dummy up on
30:12
Speaker 5: this baby, because they do that. That's what they do
30:15
Speaker 5: in Texas. Ain't what nobody told me something that I
30:18
Speaker 5: we just talked to somebody. We got a guy that
30:21
Speaker 5: you're gonna be talking to soon that had the same
30:24
Speaker 5: thing happened to him. He had a caser, had that
30:27
Speaker 5: case and then the facts, well, I guess it's gonna
30:32
Speaker 5: pick up the case or whatever. But they could not.
30:36
Speaker 5: They did not have enough evidence to convict him, So
30:39
Speaker 5: that's when they trumped up another charge on him while
30:43
Speaker 5: he was in prison. How did he commit that crime
30:46
Speaker 5: if he was already locked up in your prison system?
30:48
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody questioned that. Ain't nobody asked that question. But
30:52
Speaker 5: because he looked like us, ain't, don't nobody care? Because
30:58
Speaker 5: none of these laws was designed for us US, No way.
31:00
Speaker 5: If you look at all these laws that's own the books,
31:03
Speaker 5: and all this stuff that's owned the books, none of
31:05
Speaker 5: this stuff was designed for us. Everybody around here celebrating
31:08
Speaker 5: Fourth of July and and celebrating that for what. You
31:11
Speaker 5: weren't even free then. You were not free in seventeen
31:15
Speaker 5: seventy six. None of our ancestors was free in seventeen
31:17
Speaker 5: seventy six. But yet we'll will yet celebrate a Fourth
31:22
Speaker 5: of July and proudly celebrate fourth for July for what exactly? Fireworks?
31:34
Speaker 5: Firework you got? They wasn't kicking up that much for June,
31:37
Speaker 5: team nothing. Our brown brothers, y'all wasn't doing that much
31:44
Speaker 5: for Sinker Demaya, but doing that much for they got
31:51
Speaker 5: their foot on our next and they don't and they'll
31:56
Speaker 5: defending They'll defend these people to their grave. And and
32:00
Speaker 5: you got all these these b K b K men
32:03
Speaker 5: that that that's married to these yts and and that's
32:08
Speaker 5: all they do. It's the fandom defend them. If they
32:12
Speaker 5: can be wrong, it's it's hell. And they gonna defend them. Yes,
32:18
Speaker 5: but you can't get them to stand up and and
32:20
Speaker 5: and why do they do that? And I explained that
32:23
Speaker 5: the other day on on on on my on my life,
32:27
Speaker 5: when I did my devotion, I was explaining why a
32:31
Speaker 5: lot of those people You asked that question to why
32:35
Speaker 5: all those b K men down? Because that's who it is.
32:40
Speaker 5: It's the b K men. You don't hard to hear
32:41
Speaker 5: none of those women over there saying that, But it's
32:44
Speaker 5: most of those men. And most of those men they
32:47
Speaker 5: are dating the y T women, and a lot of
32:51
Speaker 5: them they don't even love themselves. So if they don't
32:55
Speaker 5: have love for themselves, then how can they have love
32:58
Speaker 5: for anybody else or care about you. There is one man,
33:02
Speaker 5: it's one man over there that has a platform nothing
33:08
Speaker 5: but uh white tea women, and he allowed them women
33:15
Speaker 5: to talk to doubt, to talk about black women. Well,
33:23
Speaker 5: I bet you they won't do that in the street
33:24
Speaker 5: because I'm telling you I'm not my I'm not my ancestor,
33:29
Speaker 5: you know, and I just and I just think about
33:32
Speaker 5: you know, you can love who you want to love,
33:36
Speaker 5: you know, but when you involved hate, you can't say
33:45
Speaker 5: you love God. Because God is not hate. God is loved.
33:49
Speaker 5: But God ain't in that mess.
33:52
Speaker 3: God is.
33:54
Speaker 5: God name in the same sentence. And God ain't no
33:57
Speaker 5: way in that God in and nothing nothing that is
33:59
Speaker 5: taken away from the citizens. He everything. He's killing people,
34:03
Speaker 5: he's taking away medicine, he's taking away food, he's taking
34:06
Speaker 5: away housing, He's taking everything that he's taken away. God
34:09
Speaker 5: wanted to do that. Jesus want have done that. He
34:12
Speaker 5: ain't asked out downtown. What would Jesus do because Jesus
34:15
Speaker 5: would have done that. Jesus want to see all these
34:17
Speaker 5: homeless people up under these bridges. And yet yet we
34:21
Speaker 5: sending we would send millions and billions of dollars on
34:25
Speaker 5: a parade for him, But you got homeless people living
34:29
Speaker 5: in tents under bridges that serve this country. If you
34:33
Speaker 5: wanted to really honor the army and the military, you
34:40
Speaker 5: should have been honoring them veterans, getting some of them
34:42
Speaker 5: veterans off the street. That's what you should have been there,
34:46
Speaker 5: But we weren't talking about that. They're good enough to
34:51
Speaker 5: go fight for our country and stuff, but they're not
34:54
Speaker 5: good enough to house and feed regardless of what kind
34:59
Speaker 5: of mental illness that's going on. We don't know what
35:02
Speaker 5: the men and women are seeing over there, you know,
35:05
Speaker 5: we don't know. And then you know the draft, so
35:13
Speaker 5: of course he don't know, and I never know because
35:16
Speaker 5: now he's too old. But then he want to make
35:18
Speaker 5: he want to change the limits and change everything for
35:21
Speaker 5: everybody else. Yeah, I'll be glad when you get on
35:25
Speaker 5: up out of there.
35:27
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I would like to weigh in on this.
35:30
Speaker 3: Uh. First of all, we have already realized for decade
35:34
Speaker 3: that we have two systems now, one for blacks and
35:38
Speaker 3: one for white i'm v K and one for for
35:41
Speaker 3: the for the white hys V. Why thank and I
35:46
Speaker 3: apologize for that now. And the issue is that now
35:50
Speaker 3: for decade, our system has rallied around the way that
35:55
Speaker 3: they can take and treat the African American totally different
35:59
Speaker 3: as a pole to the Caucasian. So under them circumstances,
36:04
Speaker 3: now the issue now becomes the capitalism, the capitalism is
36:09
Speaker 3: how can they make billions and billis and billions of
36:12
Speaker 3: dollars all hey, and this is what's happening. So now
36:17
Speaker 3: when it comes to our criminal justice system, that is
36:20
Speaker 3: one of the easiest ways to lock us away from
36:23
Speaker 3: society and to get paid for locking us away from society.
36:30
Speaker 3: Now they've taken our females and doing them the same
36:33
Speaker 3: identical way, locking them away from society for possessions of
36:40
Speaker 3: less than the grammar of cocaine of things of this nation,
36:44
Speaker 3: when in fact they don't have a they don't have
36:46
Speaker 3: a a it's not a crime. They have a drug habit.
36:50
Speaker 3: They have a problem that needs to be fixed that
36:53
Speaker 3: they need to get the help up. But instead our
36:56
Speaker 3: system penalizing them instead of giving them them the help
37:00
Speaker 3: that they need. The same way in here, instead of
37:04
Speaker 3: giving these kids the help that they need to help
37:06
Speaker 3: them get off of this drugs, they are paralyzing them
37:09
Speaker 3: and they are trying to do everything they can to
37:11
Speaker 3: hold them here in prison. Now, the issue that I
37:15
Speaker 3: spoke about was regarding the mister after the communal case.
37:19
Speaker 3: In that case, here's we're dealing with a double system.
37:23
Speaker 3: You have some people saying he's guilty, and you have
37:26
Speaker 3: some people saying he's innocome and that this self depends. Okay, well,
37:31
Speaker 3: what do the evidence say?
37:32
Speaker 4: What do the facts say?
37:34
Speaker 3: If the facts show that he was justified, then why
37:37
Speaker 3: is it that everybody's missing the point? That doesn't make
37:42
Speaker 3: no sense, no matter of what our opinion is, because
37:44
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to happen to my time. If he's ennocent,
37:47
Speaker 3: he's innocent. If he's guilty, he's guilty.
37:50
Speaker 5: Well, everybody keeps saying that he could have walked away,
37:53
Speaker 5: he could have walked away, but you don't know, a
37:56
Speaker 5: lot of stuff is starting to come out, Like we're
37:59
Speaker 5: starting to find out that these these kids had ties
38:02
Speaker 5: to the the the Peanut Butter boys. Yeah, them them
38:08
Speaker 5: boys that ran up in there in January the sixth,
38:12
Speaker 5: they had ties. Dad was really connected to him because
38:16
Speaker 5: he he was in the same circles with three of
38:19
Speaker 5: them right there in the Dallas Fort Work area. And
38:22
Speaker 5: the couple that was known to to do time. One
38:26
Speaker 5: was known to go to jail and did some time.
38:28
Speaker 5: There was two females in a in a in a male.
38:31
Speaker 5: He's connected with them, and they had they got a
38:34
Speaker 5: video out that's saying that one of the Peanut Butter
38:37
Speaker 5: boys to call and said that the one that's unlive
38:42
Speaker 5: he was gonna he was he was gonna be the
38:44
Speaker 5: paper child for them. They was already looking at him. Now,
38:47
Speaker 5: you tell me, well, what kind of stuff is that
38:49
Speaker 5: that they teaching something in their house that's not right?
38:52
Speaker 5: And if he could come on these live, these live
38:56
Speaker 5: shows and say what he said the other night, called
38:59
Speaker 5: b a female? Uh uh that that that that N
39:03
Speaker 5: word and in in cow ha uh b. Yeah, he
39:09
Speaker 5: used that regularly. That ain't just something that just popped
39:12
Speaker 5: up because he was under the stress. That he's mad. Yeah,
39:15
Speaker 5: they want us to be mad at Robert Hinton because
39:17
Speaker 5: he did what he did. But it's okay for him
39:19
Speaker 5: to get over here and cut people out and to
39:21
Speaker 5: say what he want to say. Nah, if we ain't
39:23
Speaker 5: gonna do the double standard, if we're gonna do it
39:25
Speaker 5: for one and do it.
39:26
Speaker 3: All, okay. So it's obvious saying, ma'am, what you're saying
39:30
Speaker 3: that this case is being overshadowed by the issue of
39:34
Speaker 3: the skin. Is that okay, and not by the facts. Okay.
39:39
Speaker 3: So if against your attorney received the case, ma'am, their
39:44
Speaker 3: job and not an obligation is to apply the loss
39:47
Speaker 3: of the facts of the case.
39:48
Speaker 5: Well, he's not gonna do that because from what we've
39:52
Speaker 5: been here the last couple of days, the d A
39:55
Speaker 5: and in the the the their friends, their friend. Yeah,
40:02
Speaker 5: the dad, the dad in the DA, the one that's
40:05
Speaker 5: been running around on all this talking him and the
40:08
Speaker 5: DA and friends. That that's that's what sloped around.
40:12
Speaker 3: Now, that's what we have an issue called judicial misconduct
40:18
Speaker 3: because we have this back then pointed out. Now we
40:22
Speaker 3: have the power to make a change of venue out
40:25
Speaker 3: of that county had away from that judge or the
40:27
Speaker 3: district attorney. Wow, because we see we got a buddy
40:30
Speaker 3: buddy just some here.
40:32
Speaker 5: And not only that, they got a petition going around
40:35
Speaker 5: to bring charges against the brother, the brother because they
40:40
Speaker 5: saying everybody is saying that these kids before, before all
40:45
Speaker 5: this stuff started getting passed around and the mama telling
40:49
Speaker 5: them to retract videos and to take stuff down and
40:53
Speaker 5: do all that. You're hearing little kids talk about how
40:56
Speaker 5: these twins were bullied. But now everybody hushed hush about that.
41:01
Speaker 5: You don't hear them talking about that. But in the
41:03
Speaker 5: beginning they were talking about how they was bullis and
41:05
Speaker 5: I could see that if if, if dad is doing
41:08
Speaker 5: what he doing on these platforms. Yeah, they bullies. And
41:12
Speaker 5: then I believe some stuff happened between the mama and
41:15
Speaker 5: the daddy that that cost them to be some some
41:18
Speaker 5: some some some tension, and and they got some They
41:22
Speaker 5: got a favorite one in there too. It's a lot
41:24
Speaker 5: going on that's playing a part in this, and these
41:27
Speaker 5: people trying to keep it on the hush. But then
41:30
Speaker 5: they're trying to paint Anthony as a bad person. This
41:33
Speaker 5: boy ain't never been on now. They did one one
41:37
Speaker 5: press conference that the dad showed up to. Didn't have
41:40
Speaker 5: no reason being there, but he showed up to the
41:42
Speaker 5: press conference. But these people have only done one press conference.
41:47
Speaker 5: But yet he he he he wrong, he gilty, he
41:52
Speaker 5: done did this. But history ain't never changed. But then
41:56
Speaker 5: you got those those medcal stories keep changing every time
42:01
Speaker 5: you turn around, every video you go listen that you're
42:03
Speaker 5: gonna hear something different coming out their mouths. But they
42:07
Speaker 5: telling the truth.
42:10
Speaker 3: Okay, So with that man, the issue is that we
42:13
Speaker 3: have to we have to all take focus on the law.
42:17
Speaker 3: If the law require for him to be justified, ma'am,
42:20
Speaker 3: and that he did not have to retreat or have
42:23
Speaker 3: to leave the crime, lead the scene of the climate
42:25
Speaker 3: order to be justified that he didn't have to.
42:28
Speaker 5: But he's justified, then we don't even have to talk
42:30
Speaker 5: about that no more because he met all it's five,
42:35
Speaker 5: it's five, he met out five of them.
42:39
Speaker 3: Okay. So that's why we as a public, as community
42:44
Speaker 3: should bove a petition delanding for them charge us to
42:49
Speaker 3: be dismissed.
42:51
Speaker 5: But but let me say, I don't mean to take
42:54
Speaker 5: you off, brother, but when you got what is divided,
43:02
Speaker 5: you got some of our people that are siding with
43:07
Speaker 5: them as well because they believe that. But well, I
43:14
Speaker 5: have to today I was in a room, so I
43:17
Speaker 5: can't say that we don't have some of them on
43:20
Speaker 5: our side too, because there is there. There were a
43:23
Speaker 5: couple people today that I know were other other sersuasions
43:29
Speaker 5: that were for him. There's a guy out of California
43:33
Speaker 5: that he comes on that he is Caucasian and he
43:37
Speaker 5: says that law, by law, that baby is innocent. He
43:44
Speaker 5: said his ground. He said by law, he stood his ground.
43:48
Speaker 5: And there's another guy they said the same thing. And
43:51
Speaker 5: then there's a lady that said the same thing. So
43:53
Speaker 5: there's some people on both sides. That's either up, but
43:57
Speaker 5: that's probably more of us be came in that that
44:03
Speaker 5: feel that way, and they feel that way for the
44:05
Speaker 5: wrong reason exactly because you know what I was hearing
44:10
Speaker 5: around Also if when you said, I forgot what you said,
44:15
Speaker 5: but a lot of them were saying, oh, he was
44:19
Speaker 5: wrong for doing that. Would you want to would you
44:26
Speaker 5: want your child to protect his help if he was
44:29
Speaker 5: in that situation, because I wanted my child to protect hisself,
44:36
Speaker 5: and I know for sure that my son would have
44:40
Speaker 5: protect his protect hisself, and I would the ten toes
44:46
Speaker 5: down with him.
44:51
Speaker 4: Okay, the true.
45:08
Speaker 3: For now, and he got the district attorney on his side,
45:17
Speaker 3: who happens to be his best friend, and whoever knows
45:20
Speaker 3: who is his best friend in the courthouse, then we're
45:23
Speaker 3: saying that the District Attorney's office in our state of
45:26
Speaker 3: Texas is not considering and looking at the facts to
45:30
Speaker 3: this case, only going with the money trail now because
45:34
Speaker 3: now this has turned to almost a million dollar process
45:38
Speaker 3: now where somebody's gonna get their hands into a picky
45:41
Speaker 3: job and they're going to get.
45:42
Speaker 4: Paid where of this.
45:44
Speaker 3: But now the Middle Avenue Defense and the community, how
45:48
Speaker 3: the state focus on the facts of the case and
45:51
Speaker 3: the law to be applied to them. It don't matter
45:54
Speaker 3: how many people come up against us, that the facts
45:56
Speaker 3: of the law and the law applied to it show
45:59
Speaker 3: that we are like, then we shall prevail right now.
46:03
Speaker 3: Our petition dismissing this case based the going standiel ground
46:08
Speaker 3: number one, number two self defense, and number three the
46:13
Speaker 3: lack of sufficient impidence to prove that he intentionally and
46:17
Speaker 3: knowingly cause the death of an individual. Ma'am. He should
46:21
Speaker 3: be right now release from any further confinement. What the law?
46:25
Speaker 5: My okay, my question to you do history did not
46:28
Speaker 5: know that, ma'am?
46:31
Speaker 3: Yes they do. But see that's what they thinking. The
46:34
Speaker 3: job don't know. They think the public don't know because
46:37
Speaker 3: there ain't nobody saying nothing about that. So if don't
46:41
Speaker 3: nobody say anything about the law to be applied and
46:45
Speaker 3: how we're supposed to be applied, they'll let it go
46:48
Speaker 3: on and on and on and on against what they're doing.
46:50
Speaker 3: They'll keep letting that money.
46:51
Speaker 5: Right, this is what they're doing. They keep because they're
46:54
Speaker 5: now asking them for the asking for more money because
46:58
Speaker 5: they're saying that they having to do, they're having to
47:01
Speaker 5: pull tape, they having to do all this stuff. But
47:04
Speaker 5: they shouldn't have to because that man ain't got no
47:08
Speaker 5: grounds to stand on. There's nothing to stand on. Like
47:11
Speaker 5: they not saying like they're not saying what evidence was
47:17
Speaker 5: presented to the grand jury who made up the grand jury?
47:20
Speaker 5: They're not sharing none of that information.
47:25
Speaker 3: Okay, and you know why because it's a pickle Pell
47:29
Speaker 3: grand jury. It's the fathers of the son is a
47:33
Speaker 3: friend with the district attorney. Obviously they're gonna present escape
47:37
Speaker 3: to the district grand jury and get them in diagment.
47:39
Speaker 3: Their indictment is being rubber stamp. That's a rubber stamps indictment.
47:43
Speaker 3: Why because no evidence was presented to the grand jury
47:46
Speaker 3: support that indictment none.
47:49
Speaker 4: So what's that now?
47:50
Speaker 3: Was saying that that other information out there and not
47:53
Speaker 3: only they're a Melo anthony statement saying that he acted
47:55
Speaker 3: in self defense and video put it just showing that
47:59
Speaker 3: he acts anybody, why he didn't retreat anybody. But the
48:06
Speaker 3: issue remained that he did not have to retreat by law.
48:10
Speaker 5: How can he retreat if you got four people standing
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Speaker 5: around you, how you gonna retreat without If he tried
48:17
Speaker 5: to retreat that people failed to realize that you got
48:20
Speaker 5: four people. It was just one. It was four people.
48:23
Speaker 5: And they keep saying that he could have went in
48:25
Speaker 5: any direction. How if you got four people surrounding you,
48:31
Speaker 5: either direction you go, you're gonna bump into somebody if
48:34
Speaker 5: they surrounded you. Okay, okay, So how can he how
48:40
Speaker 5: could he willfully on his own decide Now he said
48:44
Speaker 5: what he said so that they can move from where
48:47
Speaker 5: he was to give him his space, and then maybe
48:51
Speaker 5: he could have retreated. But they wanted to be bullied
48:54
Speaker 5: and they wanted to touch his stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he was right anything correct crime okay. And
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Speaker 3: number three, he did not do anything to cause the cause.
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Speaker 5: What what what's probably gonna come out is he was
49:23
Speaker 5: under that tent talking to one of them girls and
49:27
Speaker 5: they over there. Oh well, one of them came over
49:30
Speaker 5: there and saw him over there talking to one of
49:33
Speaker 5: the girls because they said that that I think it
49:35
Speaker 5: was the dad or somebody on one of them shows. Oh,
49:38
Speaker 5: Diego Diego was gonna popped up. That's that's that's hunter.
49:43
Speaker 5: He he don't he done popped up in one of
49:44
Speaker 5: the what's his name? And he directly was was coming
49:48
Speaker 5: on the stuff that I was posting because I was posting.
49:51
Speaker 5: You know, I don't care. He stood his ground. They
49:53
Speaker 5: come in there with that polish that he stood his ground,
49:55
Speaker 5: He did what he needed to do. And then he
49:57
Speaker 5: gonna say, oh, you supported the murder. I say, and
50:00
Speaker 5: they need to lock you up too, I said, because
50:03
Speaker 5: you one, you, the one went and got your brother.
50:05
Speaker 5: You the one went and got them. You the one
50:08
Speaker 5: went and brought them over there. Because that's that's what
50:11
Speaker 5: they said. The first two minutes of the video. You'll
50:14
Speaker 5: see him go and get his brother and bring them back.
50:17
Speaker 5: So he went and brought them to the to it.
50:19
Speaker 5: And I tell you it's gonna come out that it
50:21
Speaker 5: was probably over there about a girl, had something to
50:24
Speaker 5: do with a girl, and that that was the whole
50:28
Speaker 5: little cows of that. But we're gonna see it's gonna
50:32
Speaker 5: come out because them kids ain't gonna keep all that
50:35
Speaker 5: stuff quiet. They only they only can be quiet for
50:38
Speaker 5: a little while. They're not gonna maybe keep all that
50:40
Speaker 5: quiet because then people gonna start pointing the fingers at them.
50:43
Speaker 5: Because remind you, there was four people that surrounded him.
50:48
Speaker 5: They ain't said nothing about none of the other people.
50:50
Speaker 5: What them other two boys at the only person they
50:53
Speaker 5: talking about its hunter. Where the other two boys at.
50:57
Speaker 5: They don't identified one. I think his name is BJ,
51:02
Speaker 5: but they hadn't identified the other one. One of them went.
51:06
Speaker 5: From my understanding, one of them was black, or maybe
51:12
Speaker 5: two of them was black. I don't know, but it
51:14
Speaker 5: was it was a BK person up in.
51:16
Speaker 3: There, Okay, the criminal Initially, Initially it came from.
51:25
Speaker 5: From them aggressives, from them twins because number one, one
51:30
Speaker 5: of them didn't even have no right to be there,
51:32
Speaker 5: if we tell the truth, he wasn't even on no roster.
51:35
Speaker 5: He was not participating in nothing that day. So he
51:40
Speaker 5: he he lawfully, if we want to tell the truth,
51:42
Speaker 5: had no right even to be there. And they want
51:47
Speaker 5: to say Camillo didn't have no right under that tent,
51:51
Speaker 5: but he had right to be in there. It started
51:54
Speaker 5: raining and they told them to get to a tent
51:57
Speaker 5: or get to the bus.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, come listen that. I ask you a question now, yes,
52:07
Speaker 3: what constitution.
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Speaker 4: A crime?
52:10
Speaker 3: Man?
52:14
Speaker 5: What constitute a crime?
52:17
Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am? What constitutes acquire a crime? You have to
52:25
Speaker 3: do what you have to ask.
52:29
Speaker 5: You have to plan it a long huh, don't you
52:34
Speaker 5: have to? You have to plan it. You have to
52:37
Speaker 5: follow through with it.
52:39
Speaker 3: Okay. So that means that you intentionally and you normally
52:44
Speaker 3: it's something to commit that crime, right.
52:49
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, So in order to commit a crime, you
52:53
Speaker 5: got to have you got to have intent, and you
52:57
Speaker 5: gotta have what.
52:59
Speaker 3: Knowledge and.
53:01
Speaker 5: You had to have intent and knowledge.
53:03
Speaker 3: Okay, So mind yourself. Look at Anthony charged with titly
53:08
Speaker 3: and normally cause him to death.
53:10
Speaker 5: Well, he had no He didn't intend to do anything
53:15
Speaker 5: because he didn't even know them. First of all, he
53:17
Speaker 5: didn't even know them. He he went to compete in
53:21
Speaker 5: the match, he went to compete in track. He had
53:23
Speaker 5: no idea that none of them folks was gonna come
53:26
Speaker 5: in his safe. So how did he have intention on
53:28
Speaker 5: doing anything?
53:30
Speaker 3: Okay? So that's what I'm pointing out. That's what I'm
53:33
Speaker 3: pointing out to you. You have to take the intent
53:37
Speaker 3: and the normally our Look at kamdo Ath his case,
53:40
Speaker 3: because he didn't normally do anything.
53:42
Speaker 4: To committal crime.
53:44
Speaker 3: He was in a pleasant place which he had a
53:46
Speaker 3: right to be. He did not provoke anybody to do
53:49
Speaker 3: anything to him, okay, and he did not have any
53:54
Speaker 3: answer anybody. So just said that God to get his
54:00
Speaker 3: for his friends. He's the one who had the criminal
54:03
Speaker 3: antent to come back Hunter.
54:06
Speaker 5: That would be Hunter, that would be Hunter.
54:09
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's done that. How is it that the
54:12
Speaker 3: District Attorney's office is missing the point? The point is
54:16
Speaker 3: that they went to go get somebody and they came
54:19
Speaker 3: back and confront of the mental anthony. And with that
54:21
Speaker 3: being said, that's where Camilo Anthony was justified and doing
54:25
Speaker 3: what he did, and he stood his ground and doing
54:27
Speaker 3: what he had to do. And now for the District
54:30
Speaker 3: Attorney's office, I would to you right now as we
54:33
Speaker 3: see so dismissed that indictment against him. Why because he
54:37
Speaker 3: was justified. He stead of the ground, he did not
54:40
Speaker 3: have to retreat. So his lawyers, I don't know what
54:43
Speaker 3: they're doing, what's it lands or what they thinking about doing,
54:46
Speaker 3: But I see now that distant turn into a money
54:49
Speaker 3: circus now, yeah, and everybody's missing the point. So that's.
54:57
Speaker 5: That's how it is. It's a money ground because it
55:00
Speaker 5: go go fund means and then you staying on lives
55:04
Speaker 5: for fifteen hours. You on for fifteen hours. They was
55:08
Speaker 5: on that line for fifteen hours, and then you're going
55:11
Speaker 5: from live to live to live to life. I mean
55:14
Speaker 5: everybody trying to have this this this this jewelry tons
55:19
Speaker 5: on their platform because that's what he's doing, taunting the jury.
55:24
Speaker 3: Okay, so what should we do? We need the public
55:27
Speaker 3: if the's a lawyers, camilo anthey are not going to
55:30
Speaker 3: do their jobs around we are demanding right now have
55:35
Speaker 3: a petition that they were drawn from this case and
55:38
Speaker 3: that we feel assigned from attorneys who are going to
55:40
Speaker 3: represent him to Professor of his ability while because these
55:43
Speaker 3: attorneys are not following anything to get him off of
55:46
Speaker 3: this case when in fact the facts of proven that
55:49
Speaker 3: he was justify. Why did they not follow emotion of
55:52
Speaker 3: this mistess indictment and why are they let this case
55:55
Speaker 3: go forward a word of grand jury that he may
55:58
Speaker 3: not get a fair of drawal at because now they're
56:00
Speaker 3: trying to tell money crowd. The lawyers will allow themselves
56:04
Speaker 3: to be paid money to help them get the conviction,
56:07
Speaker 3: then paid more money to do the appeal, then paid
56:10
Speaker 3: more money to do the eleven h seven, So they
56:12
Speaker 3: will wreck up as much money as they can out
56:14
Speaker 3: of this one particular case. That's a very simple case.
56:18
Speaker 3: It's a justified case. And this boy stird the crowd
56:21
Speaker 3: and he's innosome, and the District sign's officer dismissed that
56:24
Speaker 3: case right now as we speak.
56:26
Speaker 5: So now, so how much time do he have from
56:29
Speaker 5: the indictment because they have what one hundred and eighty
56:33
Speaker 5: days to get him into court after the indictment come down.
56:40
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what's going to happen in his case because
56:43
Speaker 3: of the complicity that's in this particular case, the District
56:46
Speaker 3: attorney's officer is going to follow motion for continuance, which
56:49
Speaker 3: means that now they got to go fund me. They're
56:51
Speaker 3: gonna try to lack them as much money as they can.
56:53
Speaker 3: In this case. The point now is that you have
56:55
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty days to be indicted. That means
56:59
Speaker 3: that all the evil I have to go to the
57:00
Speaker 3: frantury After Dan Dymy, you have what we call a
57:04
Speaker 3: pre trial hearing, which means that you can follow this
57:07
Speaker 3: thirty days before the jury trial and ask them to
57:10
Speaker 3: show you all of the evidence that will allow you
57:13
Speaker 3: to follow motion to squash the indictment or dismiss the indictment. So,
57:18
Speaker 3: as of right now, I'm just optionist to follow motions
57:21
Speaker 3: to dismiss the indictment. Because indament was built on what
57:26
Speaker 3: we classify as glad jury lack of tearing gland tenderal
57:32
Speaker 3: was fixed in this case. Wow, because the glad turist
57:35
Speaker 3: friends of the district attorney and friends of the victim,
57:38
Speaker 3: of the fallow of the victim. It's a glad jury racriteria.
57:42
Speaker 3: So what we do as a public we demanded this
57:45
Speaker 3: whole case befo all the platforms to be dismissed and
57:49
Speaker 3: the attorneys in this case to be dismissed off this
57:52
Speaker 3: case unless they do their job by following the motions
57:55
Speaker 3: to dismiss the case right now because we ain't no needle. Wow,
58:00
Speaker 3: they help get a conviction. No, we don't need to
58:02
Speaker 3: because we don't have to go that far to no
58:05
Speaker 3: jury because the jury is gonna be tainted it and
58:10
Speaker 3: the public is not gonna know why because these attorney
58:12
Speaker 3: is going for a money grab and they'll make it
58:14
Speaker 3: look good for the record like they're doing their job.
58:17
Speaker 3: But all the time, the jury gonna come back and
58:19
Speaker 3: say he'll to you. And when that happened, then he
58:21
Speaker 3: have to appeal that case. And the lawyers who living
58:25
Speaker 3: in Canlo Avenue are gonna pay gonna appeal that case
58:28
Speaker 3: and they're gonna get more money just to appeal that case.
58:32
Speaker 3: So right now, ma'am, I wish the public would stand
58:35
Speaker 3: up to the state, to the District Attalion's office in
58:38
Speaker 3: that county and do their job and demand for this
58:41
Speaker 3: case to be dismissed. Baseball justifible calls standil ground and
58:47
Speaker 3: lack of sufficient evidence to show that he intentionally and
58:51
Speaker 3: knowingly called the death of this individual.
58:54
Speaker 5: And can and who can do that? The lawyer right,
58:58
Speaker 5: The public can do this, The public can do. What
59:01
Speaker 5: can the public do? Tell the public what they can do?
59:04
Speaker 3: Again? The public can send upon a signat to petition
59:09
Speaker 3: to demand the District Attorney's office in this case dismiss
59:13
Speaker 3: this case based upon stuff the Bible calls saniel ground
59:18
Speaker 3: and lack of sufficient evidence to show that Camilo Anthony
59:21
Speaker 3: intentley only caused because of this individual. And it's going
59:25
Speaker 3: to ask for the attorneys in this case either sign
59:28
Speaker 3: on this petition and get a wearing on it brought,
59:32
Speaker 3: dismiss themselves from this case. Familiar to do their job.
59:37
Speaker 3: That's what we're asking for, because this case can be
59:39
Speaker 3: dismissed right now before we even go to the jury,
59:43
Speaker 3: and he should be given a release right now. He
59:45
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to have no hob on that he can't
59:48
Speaker 3: get out of jail because right now his life is
59:52
Speaker 3: in danger. While become a public opinion, you have one
59:55
Speaker 3: minute left, so that's what we're asking for now, and
59:59
Speaker 3: the public can do an online petition to the disc
1:00:02
Speaker 3: Attorney's office to dismiss this case basically on justify because
1:00:06
Speaker 3: it self defense and stand your ground which you don't
1:00:10
Speaker 3: have to retreat, and lack of sufficient evidence to justify
1:00:14
Speaker 3: and cattle and wantly because that's what he's indicted for
1:00:18
Speaker 3: at Cattland Norty.
1:00:20
Speaker 4: But the evidence and.
1:00:21
Speaker 3: The fact that he did not have catland nor to
1:00:23
Speaker 3: do anything to anybody.
1:00:25
Speaker 4: So he's justified.
1:00:26
Speaker 3: So that's what we're acting us. So if anybody listen
1:00:28
Speaker 3: to this, please sayd up and support the Melo Anthony
1:00:32
Speaker 3: demands of this case. You dismissed. All right, thank y'all
1:00:35
Speaker 3: allow with me this opportunity and I'll talk to you
1:00:37
Speaker 3: guys later. And thanks y'all very much. Thank you. Mission
1:00:40
Speaker 3: that okay, ma'am.
1:00:41
Speaker 5: But I okay, all right, talk to you so.
1:00:47
Speaker 3: Okay, man, thank you very much.
1:00:50
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