Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Drinking From The Poisoned Chalice With SPACE OF VARIATIONS
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We are Space Operations band from Ukraine. We're playing heavy
- 0:05Speaker 1: music with different flavors. Yeah, I would say like this
- 0:11Speaker 1: with blending, blending different genres and yeah, trying to make
- 0:18Speaker 1: some unique, weird sounds. Yeah. Yeah, we're kind of a
- 0:27Speaker 1: long time in the game to be honest, Like our
- 0:29Speaker 1: band was existed like a little bit with a different lineup.
- 0:34Speaker 1: But in two thousand and nine twenty ten, when I
- 0:38Speaker 1: was in high school, Alex was a little bit older,
- 0:41Speaker 1: we like did this band, but then we broke up.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Five years we didn't play it, and in twenty fifteen
- 0:48Speaker 1: we reunited, changed the lineup a little bit, and since
- 0:52Speaker 1: twenty fifteen un till twenty twenty six, we're on this
- 0:58Speaker 1: journey non stop stop. Yeah, very not. We dropped our
- 1:05Speaker 1: leg We will drop in two days our third long
- 1:10Speaker 1: play album. We did like three or four or EP albums,
- 1:15Speaker 1: so we kind of have a lot songs.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very nice.
- 1:22Speaker 3: And the album you're talking about is Cold Poison Art,
- 1:25Speaker 3: which comes out on Friday thirty.
- 1:27Speaker 2: So how do you feel about it? Is confident?
- 1:32Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty confident?
- 1:35Speaker 1: Yeah why not? Like what.
- 1:38Speaker 4: It's nice from from my point of view at least,
- 1:41Speaker 4: like it's a it's nice results. Like, and we also
- 1:45Speaker 4: play some songs live now from this album and people
- 1:50Speaker 4: enjoy it.
- 1:50Speaker 1: We see the reaction, so the energy works.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Like yeah, so pretty confident.
- 1:58Speaker 1: From my side, like decited, confident, But in the same way,
- 2:02Speaker 1: I'm thinking how to play this song's live, some of
- 2:07Speaker 1: them that we did not play it like at all lives,
- 2:10Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, but it's it's both things. For me.
- 2:14Speaker 1: It's like excitement and a little bit of like fear,
- 2:19Speaker 1: you know, you know how the people will react, so
- 2:22Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But in the end, I'm happy that
- 2:25Speaker 1: we did this album and finished it. This is the
- 2:30Speaker 1: the win for us because kind of obstacles was kind
- 2:35Speaker 1: of against us and against this album, but we we
- 2:39Speaker 1: managed to do this so that this is the win
- 2:42Speaker 1: and I'm pretty like I enjoyed the results, so I
- 2:48Speaker 1: hope the people will enjoy it too.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Can you can you drive into the album a bit,
- 2:54Speaker 3: David from a musical point of view and tell us what.
- 2:55Speaker 1: You're going forward it you can Alex can start.
- 3:01Speaker 4: What can I say about musical parts?
- 3:03Speaker 1: Like yeah, like from.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Musical point of view, it's a like I don't know,
- 3:08Speaker 4: it's a like natural extension of our previous arts, so
- 3:15Speaker 4: I don't know, Like for me, it's still space aferiations
- 3:20Speaker 4: and we always change something like when we recording, and
- 3:26Speaker 4: it's like normal organical and no natural stuff like I
- 3:33Speaker 4: don't know, like we're always looking for some new new angles,
- 3:39Speaker 4: new points of view or art. So I don't know nothing, no,
- 3:45Speaker 4: no dramatic changes. I believe, like dramatic, dramatic. But at
- 3:48Speaker 4: the same time, I believe this album sounds like very
- 3:52Speaker 4: different from all previous albums, and from point of view
- 3:55Speaker 4: of thinking of composition and from point of view of
- 4:00Speaker 4: sound like everything, everything is different, but still it's space
- 4:05Speaker 4: of variations.
- 4:07Speaker 1: For me. It's like for me, it's like we tried
- 4:10Speaker 1: to gather all the cool things that we did in
- 4:14Speaker 1: previous albums in kind of in this one. We kind
- 4:18Speaker 1: of you kind of you can see, you can hear
- 4:20Speaker 1: if you know our like discography, you can hear like
- 4:24Speaker 1: the influence from our previous work. So it's yeah, as
- 4:28Speaker 1: Alex said, it's natural extension just and we were just rolling.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Nice.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Had you released the five singles Halo Tribe Live, Jobang
- 4:40Speaker 3: and Goes Down, how difficult is it for you guys
- 4:42Speaker 3: to release singles off an album you've got so much
- 4:44Speaker 3: count on musically, they can't really release one song that
- 4:48Speaker 3: represents the whole album.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Can you?
- 4:51Speaker 1: For me? Yeah, I already answered this question in some interview.
- 4:56Speaker 1: For me, it was some people are asking does songs
- 5:00Speaker 1: like that you dropped by single is representing the album?
- 5:05Speaker 1: And for us it was like a bit to trick people.
- 5:09Speaker 1: So we picked these songs and they're kind of different,
- 5:13Speaker 1: so it's much more interesting for people. They don't know
- 5:16Speaker 1: exactly what to expect from the album. So I was
- 5:21Speaker 1: thinking about this in this way, you know, try to
- 5:26Speaker 1: drop the singles, but they should be like a little
- 5:30Speaker 1: bit different between between themselves, you know, so the people
- 5:34Speaker 1: don't know exactly what to expect on the album. Yeah.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:39Speaker 3: The album opens with Tribe, which features like a startering
- 5:43Speaker 3: vocal intro that sweeps into a wave of electronics and
- 5:45Speaker 3: then it just descends into chaos. Like it's completely opposite
- 5:49Speaker 3: introduction in music to what I was expecting. So I'm
- 5:52Speaker 3: guessing you chose that song as the first one for
- 5:54Speaker 3: that reason, just to great people's attention.
- 5:58Speaker 4: Actually, it's like I don't know, like we was thinking
- 6:04Speaker 4: to drop actually different song as the as the first single.
- 6:08Speaker 4: From the album like back back in Days and we
- 6:13Speaker 4: should we should release Parallel Realities actually like the first single,
- 6:17Speaker 4: but then we changed our mind. We was thinking that
- 6:20Speaker 4: it should be more like banger kind of song, and yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 4: we choose to drop this Tribe as first single and
- 6:32Speaker 4: also put it like the first song in the album
- 6:36Speaker 4: because it's I don't know, it's symbolical maybe from some
- 6:40Speaker 4: point of view, it's it sounds like nice opener for
- 6:43Speaker 4: the album. And it was like literally the first single
- 6:47Speaker 4: of this record. So I don't know, nothing like super
- 6:52Speaker 4: hidden message behind this decision, but it's it's just as
- 6:57Speaker 4: well as the first song, and it's like very meaningful song,
- 7:01Speaker 4: like it means a lot. It reflects a lot about
- 7:07Speaker 4: this moment of our life.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can say that I remember that, like
- 7:15Speaker 1: we were trying to do something similar to we have
- 7:19Speaker 1: the song Tibet and this song like is still like
- 7:24Speaker 1: I guess one of our or our most popular song,
- 7:28Speaker 1: I don't know, and we tried to kind of not
- 7:35Speaker 1: kind of repeat the same thing, but this song had
- 7:39Speaker 1: like this type of choir like at the beginning, so
- 7:44Speaker 1: the Tribe was kind of reference to to that our song,
- 7:48Speaker 1: and that started with like with this big choir. So
- 7:53Speaker 1: it was intentionally. Yeah, I remember that moment that we
- 7:59Speaker 1: wanted to do something something like this.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Yeah. The press release calls Poison the start of a
- 8:06Speaker 3: new ear for Space of Variation.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So would you agree with that statement.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I believe that all every album, like it's a new
- 8:16Speaker 1: chapter for the band. I believe that. So this one
- 8:21Speaker 1: is definitely And this album was written like during the
- 8:27Speaker 1: really life changing stuff, like it was the hardest period
- 8:33Speaker 1: in our lives and our lives changed changed dramatically, like
- 8:41Speaker 1: so yeah, you can we can say that this album
- 8:44Speaker 1: marks this changing very well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
- 8:52Speaker 3: There's also seeing some of the lyrics between Ukrainian and
- 8:56Speaker 3: English on the album. Is that difficult to do? Like,
- 8:58Speaker 3: I know what, I try to speak foreign language, I've
- 9:00Speaker 3: got to concentrate and I'll lose focus on everything else,
- 9:03Speaker 3: So trying to do it all in one song can
- 9:05Speaker 3: be easy.
- 9:06Speaker 1: M I don't know, it was kind of. I think
- 9:11Speaker 1: it's it's for us. It's easier to write in like,
- 9:14Speaker 1: you know, in native language. Then I believe, like because
- 9:18Speaker 1: you know, you can play with words more more accurately,
- 9:22Speaker 1: you know, than than in language that you that is
- 9:26Speaker 1: not your native I don't think that it was like
- 9:29Speaker 1: some hard stuff for us, but it was just interesting
- 9:34Speaker 1: decision that we decide to do on the first track.
- 9:37Speaker 1: It was kind of reverence to our Ukrainian audience and
- 9:40Speaker 1: it was something interesting that we thought like maybe it
- 9:44Speaker 1: would be something interesting for a worldwide listener.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You know, there's so much gone on with your music.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Guys. There's like elements of hip hop, there's a gastri
- 9:55Speaker 3: you got some electronics. There's massive breakdowns, there's melody like
- 9:59Speaker 3: one Pla. I've even read it now like that really
- 10:01Speaker 3: shouldn't work all that shit together, but you guys make
- 10:04Speaker 3: it sound great.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Like where does it come from?
- 10:08Speaker 1: Huh? I believe it? Where Where where it comes from?
- 10:14Speaker 1: I think we love like different styles of music, you know,
- 10:18Speaker 1: it's we love different emotions in this music. We we
- 10:21Speaker 1: want our music to be like not about one emotion
- 10:25Speaker 1: like metal like or aggression like anxiety or whatever. Like,
- 10:29Speaker 1: we want our music to reflect like different clusters of emotions,
- 10:34Speaker 1: like the light by itself. You know you can you
- 10:37Speaker 1: can listen to some ours, some sad song and get
- 10:42Speaker 1: said along with it. You know you can. You can
- 10:44Speaker 1: listen to our more aggressive stuff, and pump your muscles
- 10:49Speaker 1: in the gym, like you know. So it's it's just sound.
- 10:53Speaker 1: All this album is just soundtrack to to life, to
- 10:57Speaker 1: to different emotions in this life, and and we really
- 11:00Speaker 1: love like different styles of music, and we love to
- 11:04Speaker 1: play with blending this and kind of push the boundaries further.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I believe that we're like kind of a little bit
- 11:13Speaker 1: even holding ourselves back because we sometimes afraid, oh will
- 11:17Speaker 1: metal audience understand this or that, you know, but yeah,
- 11:21Speaker 1: we're trying to be trying to be creative and you know,
- 11:26Speaker 1: with all this blending hope and people are saying that
- 11:30Speaker 1: it's working out and that's great, it's great. We're happy
- 11:34Speaker 1: about it.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Very find the balance in the creative process.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Are like, how do you know if you've gone too
- 11:40Speaker 3: far in one direction or not too far and another?
- 11:43Speaker 2: Like is it just charl and error got feeling.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Or yeah, it's got feeling. I believe like it's like
- 11:52Speaker 4: organically naturally, I don't know, like we don't try to
- 11:58Speaker 4: control it too much, like it's just happening and part
- 12:03Speaker 4: by part, decision by decision. Were just trying to do
- 12:09Speaker 4: what we like and sometimes we add some extra details,
- 12:13Speaker 4: sometimes remove, but we never think like too much about
- 12:20Speaker 4: like stay in some balance. We know like globally that
- 12:25Speaker 4: we are kind of in heavy music. That that's the thing,
- 12:29Speaker 4: Like we're heavy band, and historically it works like this,
- 12:34Speaker 4: we are in this part of music, and like our
- 12:39Speaker 4: roots are in heavy music, still in this metal and
- 12:43Speaker 4: I don't know, like aggressive stuff, it's somewhere there. But
- 12:48Speaker 4: it's not a problem to to mix and blend together
- 12:54Speaker 4: different genres and different vibes. So it's even more interesting
- 12:58Speaker 4: with this contrast. So yeah, like why not if it works,
- 13:04Speaker 4: if we like it, we use it. It's it's not need,
- 13:07Speaker 4: it's it's just because we like it. I believe that
- 13:10Speaker 4: that's how we found the balance.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I'm always thinking that, like I will
- 13:16Speaker 1: do whatever the part requires. Heap helps, screaming saying you
- 13:21Speaker 1: know whatever, like because if I feel that this part
- 13:25Speaker 1: requires something like like from another genre, will I will
- 13:29Speaker 1: do this because I like just feel this, you know. Yeah.
- 13:35Speaker 3: And another thing I noticed was the very transitions from
- 13:38Speaker 3: melodies to brutality in the vocals. How hard does it
- 13:41Speaker 3: get that contrasting vocal balance, right, Like I've heard so
- 13:44Speaker 3: many bands do it, and it comes across as whiny
- 13:48Speaker 3: to some sort of extent, guys, like, it's got to
- 13:51Speaker 3: be a really fine line between having that whininess and
- 13:53Speaker 3: having the impact that you guys have, Like how do
- 13:56Speaker 3: you find that?
- 14:01Speaker 4: Almost hard? Hard to hard to answer, Like shortly, it's
- 14:06Speaker 4: just something in our vision. I believe, like something which
- 14:12Speaker 4: we have. This may be our unique thing. I don't know,
- 14:17Speaker 4: like something which with what we have inside our band.
- 14:20Speaker 4: That's how it works.
- 14:22Speaker 1: And it was like this, and it was like this,
- 14:26Speaker 1: you know, from from almost the beginning, we had the
- 14:29Speaker 1: super heavy parts and super soft parts like you're you're
- 14:34Speaker 1: you're putting the listener into the hard War, then into
- 14:38Speaker 1: the Cold War, then into the hard War again. I
- 14:40Speaker 1: believe it works like this, and we will we like
- 14:44Speaker 1: to play in this contrast. You know, I don't know,
- 14:48Speaker 1: it's it's it's cool when when we see there or
- 14:51Speaker 1: hear the reaction that, oh it was not expected. I
- 14:54Speaker 1: did not expect that. Oh it's like you know, but
- 14:57Speaker 1: sometimes people don't need to say this. It's on their faces,
- 15:01Speaker 1: you know, when their eyes get more wider, it means, yeah,
- 15:05Speaker 1: that was that was good part, or that that was
- 15:07Speaker 1: a good blend. You know, it's cool too to how
- 15:12Speaker 1: to say it's cool too, to make them be like fuck,
- 15:19Speaker 1: forgot the word. It's not excited, but impressed, impressed, impressed,
- 15:25Speaker 1: thank you.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:28Speaker 1: You know.
- 15:28Speaker 3: The reason why I ask all these questions, God is
- 15:31Speaker 3: like I reckon in the last two and a half
- 15:32Speaker 3: hours of listening to that album four times, it's just
- 15:34Speaker 3: like there's stuff on there that normally I don't like,
- 15:37Speaker 3: but you just managed. It's probably some of my express
- 15:41Speaker 3: in original and awesome sound music I've heard in a
- 15:44Speaker 3: long time.
- 15:44Speaker 1: However, you do it, guys, like thank you, thank you,
- 15:48Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for a good words. We we
- 15:51Speaker 1: we just we you know, we did it and we
- 15:55Speaker 1: we are inside of the project and you know it's
- 15:58Speaker 1: hard to see it from the outside, like you're by
- 16:00Speaker 1: your eyes. You know. It's so it's important that you're
- 16:04Speaker 1: saying like this school cool.
- 16:06Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Right, you guys are part way through a
- 16:10Speaker 3: European short the moment, so it's Australia on the horizon
- 16:13Speaker 3: all in the future.
- 16:16Speaker 1: We're we we were doing like a few interviews in Australia,
- 16:20Speaker 1: like before your interview, and I said, and I would
- 16:23Speaker 1: say the same. We dream to come to your country
- 16:27Speaker 1: and to play the shows there. We toured like with
- 16:32Speaker 1: Australian bands like Awesome Guys and I mean we're We're
- 16:37Speaker 1: we We would love one day too to play the
- 16:42Speaker 1: tour in your country. It's one of the my personally,
- 16:45Speaker 1: it's one of the dreams. You know. It's some exotic
- 16:49Speaker 1: stuff and still and still like English speaking people, so
- 16:55Speaker 1: it's pretty close and pretty understandable for us. Yeah. Yeah,
- 16:58Speaker 1: I love the Aralian like vibe, I don't know, and
- 17:04Speaker 1: the Australian like heavy music is cool, like you know,
- 17:08Speaker 1: you have it seems you have like a lot of
- 17:12Speaker 1: people who are genuinely interested in heavy music, you know,