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- 0:00GPS Audiovisual Radio every Wednesday at 19 hours. The protagonist is Argentine cinema.
- 0:10In Julia Montesoro' s eyes, a treasure, a program with a gender
- 0:14perspective that nucleates the country' s film industry. Argentine cinema will never be
- 0:34the one it is until now. We, from GPS Audiovisual, strive for
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- 1:02Radio with the journalistic production of Norberto chap En, the controls, in the
- 1:07technical operation, Gonzalo Sorais and in the driving who speaks Julia Montesoro. Paola
- 1:15Rici is a very important director of photography within Argentine cinema, who became a
- 1:25filmmaker to pay tribute to the great referents of the trade of the better profession.
- 1:34That first was Chango the light. Discover a documentary in co- direction
- 1:42with Alejandra Martín, with the chango Félix Monti as protagonist. Currently, Paola
- 1:49Risi has Ricardo Aronovicz, the master, another documentary that puts the focus on
- 1:56one of the most recognized photography directors in the world. On a trajectory of
- 2:04more than six decades, we are with Paula Risi starting this new broadcast of
- 2:10SE gps, audiovisual, radio and super exclusive news. Hello Paula, welcome,
- 2:19how are you, hello Julia, how are you? That' s
- 2:25very quick that I didn' t want to give you the news yet,
- 2:34because we are in full production little by little. We' re filming,
- 2:38but well, you called me and I' m here so much thanks.
- 2:44We' re not gonna let her through easily. Not good. First it
- 2:47was the Chango monty yes, now it' s not forgiveness, it'
- 2:53s still. Tomorrow they' re going to give the Chango movie in One,
- 3:02in a cycle that' s going to be made in One. Well,
- 3:14I think it' s gonna be the last time you' re gonna
- 3:16spend with an audience in a room. That, on the one hand,
- 3:21and on the other hand, will open the association that of FE is part
- 3:31of the Latin American associations that is called the FELAFK and the FELAF for years
- 3:39that has been doing a sample, but now found a platform to do the
- 3:46show and we, with our film and with the film of the Chango and
- 3:52with the Chango, obviously it is not for us, but for the Chango.
- 3:54It' s going to open this Latin American show, the movie of
- 4:02the chango on a good platform passed then this very important news. Let'
- 4:10s say then that first was the Chango Monti, with this film you were
- 4:17referring to just that you will be able to see tomorrow and now, Ricardo
- 4:25Aronovicz became director so you could pay tribute to the great professionals of photography lighting.
- 4:36I' d tell you the curiosity. I' m very curious I
- 4:47come from Brazil to do it. This is a total exclusive that I'
- 4:50m going to pull you to give an interview to one of Ricardo' s
- 4:58first great disciples, who is Alfonso Beato, who lives in Los Angeles,
- 5:02who works with Almodóvar and the truth and I asked him things outside of the
- 5:10interview. I' ve known him since last year and I' ve had
- 5:15this way I kept the relationship all year since I met him and I asked
- 5:19him questions and he said to me a lot of questions, a lot of
- 5:20questions. I' m interested in knowing about people, I' m interested
- 5:25in history. You remember we had written for the ten years of the DF
- 5:30with Mariner and Ines. I made you the book about the history of Argentine
- 5:35photography, from the Argentine Photography Directorate, that there was nothing. I did
- 5:43my first film history work at the University of Cinema, where I studied.
- 5:49It was about photography, about the direction of photography that I had to go
- 5:56to the Museum of Cinema, I mean, there was nothing, and there
- 5:59already the first work that says it had to do with history, that is,
- 6:02it actually joins everyone, it gets together that it is bigger, it
- 6:09comes together that they are bigger and that in time you are valorizing more the
- 6:18work of these gentlemen and, above all, Good and Ricardo, Already when
- 6:25you read the filmography you faint directly what Ricardo Annovich represents to you, because
- 6:31he is one of the great masters of photography in cinema. Well, where
- 6:42do I start. First to Ricardo. I met him in the year ninety
- 6:46- three, when he came every so often to give seminars to Argentina.
- 6:51He was a student of photography management at the University and comes to give a
- 6:57seminar and a photo, turning around that we are almost all and all comes
- 7:04to give a seminar about Fushi. I can name it because a lot about
- 7:15Fushi and that' s the first time I saw it but it wasn'
- 7:18t the first time I' d seen anything about him and, above all,
- 7:26I' d seen invasion that I have to thank Ana Maria Mutchnick for
- 7:31a lot of things, also because she' s part of this project.
- 7:32Hugo Santiago' s film, which is Ana Maria' s brother, is
- 7:38exactly and helped me a lot for all this. Ana María, well and
- 7:45I saw invasion and well and I had to film a first short in black
- 7:53and white, in film, at a time that was not revealed here in
- 7:57Argentina in black and white, and we were in the middle of that seminar
- 8:01and there were all the known photography directors, we were what I know and
- 8:09I asked him there also I knew Hugo Colase and I approached Huocolate and he
- 8:13tells me Mira, I am not of the time of black and white,
- 8:18why not. You ask him and he points it out to Ricardo and I
- 8:24tell him, but I' m ashamed to tell him that I didn'
- 8:28t even tell you I was very young. I' m so embarrassed.
- 8:31And there Ricardo sat with me and explained to me everything I had to do
- 8:35to get the result that I had told him, that I wanted to look
- 8:41black and white. And from that it was my career as director of photography.
- 8:50From that work with Juan Villegas, I began to be visible, that
- 8:56is, that Ricardo' s help made me visible in some way. So
- 9:01he is not anyone beyond the curriculum he has as much as a teacher,
- 9:09because he is a teacher and fire is still north not until ten years ago,
- 9:16but he continued as a teacher in the femiz in France, but he
- 9:20was also a teacher at the Cuban Film School and he was a teacher of
- 9:26many people who are teachers today, that others are teachers because they were,
- 9:31they had their two or they already have generations, as he has great grandchildren,
- 9:37he also has since his holm and teaching. Let' s say disciples
- 9:43and why you decided to make the documentary about Ricardo Aronovich, how the idea
- 9:50came up. And well, because when I did the cha, when we
- 9:54did with Alejandra the chango, one says good and rich that it is Ricardo,
- 10:03it is Don Ricardo. And last year we brought the film to the
- 10:11ABC week, which is the Brazilian Association of Photography Directors, and there Brazilian
- 10:18photography directors themselves come to us because Ricardo lived a part of his life in
- 10:26Brazil and tell me how important it was for the film novo Ricardo and that
- 10:31for the photography direction of Brazilian photography, the figure of Ricardo is fundamental and
- 10:41nothing more than that. So that, when they tell you that, the
- 10:48Brazilians say ay no bueno, you have to do it now. Then he
- 10:54gave me a predicament about Ricardo' s age being ninety- four years old.
- 11:01Now at that time I was ninety- three. I was in a
- 11:05hurry and despair that I have to film it. I have to film it.
- 11:09I don' t have a handle. Like I do. As I
- 11:11do, as I do in the middle of photography director Adriana Bernald who was
- 11:20president at the same time that I was president of the DF Ella was president
- 11:24of the Colombian association. We became friends and she had been a student of
- 11:28Ricardo' s femiz and she had told me that she wanted to have called
- 11:35him but that he very much grandmother, had not given him that I was
- 11:39good, then there I called her immediately and said Mira. I' m
- 11:41going to film Ricardo anyway, but don' t ask me but how do
- 11:46we get the money, how do we get a camera? I' m
- 11:50going to do it and there came a person who helped us financially, who
- 12:03I' ll thank him for all my life. On the other hand,
- 12:07the first one who told me good to start here was Mario Santos at the
- 12:11University of Cinema. The first interview was Manuel Antín in November of last year
- 12:20and there we swim with all guys of the fuck and exo nothing all the
- 12:26team of a great friend of mine that thousand days ago made the production a
- 12:33disciple of mine and Pedro did the photograph and then nothing. The fug gave
- 12:41us everything, absolutely everything and more, why he was going to film it
- 12:45to Mr Manuel speaking of Don Ricardo, Ricardo Novi, two characters, not
- 12:54two segments, two moments of the history of cinema, big cinema, big
- 13:00cinema. Now you were and how did you get Aronovitz, because I understand,
- 13:07but it' s not very, but with me yes aha I love
- 13:11a lot and I love it a lot and we have assiduous. He just
- 13:16sent me a whatsapp today. I' ve got regulars. That' s
- 13:20another reason why I said why not Ricardo, because years ago I communicated with
- 13:26him, he writes to you, he can write to you by Messenger,
- 13:31he can write to you on Facebook, he can write to you by Whatsapp,
- 13:39he can appear on which one or an email or send you an email.
- 13:39Aha and I have been in contact for years and I talk a lot
- 13:46with Ricardo years then and I love him very much and he loves me very
- 13:52much. He has no idea, we love each other and he opened up.
- 13:58Yeah, right at first. There' s not a filmed part anymore.
- 14:03In France there is a part with him already filmed. Yeah, a
- 14:09lot of it' s filmed. I want to see the producer Valeria Paymer,
- 14:16who is putting together the script This is also a bit similar to that
- 14:22of the chango that the producer was scriptwriter Alejandro Hartman, and here this situation
- 14:30is happening. Valeria, I met her at college. She was a former
- 14:35student of mine fuk in the fum and well, by chance things of life
- 14:43we meet again and well she' s there also seeing where what' s
- 14:50going to happen. To finish putting together one last film, if possible,
- 14:56if possible in Normandy, which is the one Ricardo just told me is going
- 15:03to leave soon Normandy, because he lives in Normandy and up to a few
- 15:09months in Paris, but his main house is in Normandy, so it would
- 15:13be great to go to Normandy to film him there. This is going to
- 15:24be a portrait. How do you imagine the documentary beyond being now shaped by
- 15:31arming it. It' s going to be a portrait of intimacy. It
- 15:37' s going to be a me, I' d say, a master
- 15:39class. It' s more like Aeronovics. No. I don' t
- 15:43know if it' s going to be a master class. I ask the
- 15:48young people if they know who Ricardo ro Novi is and they say no.
- 15:56Then some others do, but yes invasion. They tell the Argentines. No.
- 16:07I believe that in this particular case, it is so much Julia because
- 16:14it is Argentina, Brazil, Europe, because we are not just staying in
- 16:23France. He worked with story lines and tells you anecdotes about Chinechita and that
- 16:30he was with Marcelo plus Troyan and Vittorio Gasman and I don' t know
- 16:34what you saw. Then it' s a lot. That' s a
- 16:37lot. I asked him about Katherine de Neve and he told me a phrase
- 16:42is fantastic, as is he, who paints it very much light, slips
- 16:45it. Each was what you were. You wanted to tell me that you
- 16:52have a particular character. If he has it, he has no hair on
- 16:59his tongue to say absolutely nothing. So it' s different from a portrait,
- 17:03because there are things he says and he said that they' re pretty
- 17:11strong criticisms of cinema, the world of cinema, film directors and directors,
- 17:18famous film directors, a stance on certain things, that is, there'
- 17:30s nothing with what' s not true to talk about all that now,
- 17:38considering that this first job of yours as a co- director with Chango Monti,
- 17:45another great film and photography director, and now Ricardo Aronovicz, there'
- 17:52s some other character in that profession. In Mind, you have in mind
- 17:55or you' re going to rummage away. He doesn' t want to
- 18:07tell a little bit and the ideal would be to do a series. It
- 18:11' s ideal. That' s why I' m telling you this.
- 18:12I don' t know. This is a kick and the ideal would be
- 18:15to be a series, because I know I am meeting characters one more wonderful
- 18:22than the other and one more famous than the other and that have made always
- 18:27Latin American wagons. I' m very interested in that. And how the
- 18:30Latin American gaze is immersed in Shanky' s world today is impressive. In
- 18:38reality, most of them are Latin American directors, of course, and in
- 18:48Europe too, nothing that our Latin American gaze, that film directors and film
- 18:57directors choose Latin American photographers, is very interesting. Now for the moment,
- 19:04well, there' s one. He' s building a co- production.
- 19:07Also noticing yes, yes, he' s trying to put together a
- 19:12co- production. Okay. Valeria lives in Uruguay. Here. The only
- 19:19help I will have and which I greatly appreciate, is going to be that
- 19:27of Mario Santos and the University, and I appreciate the testimony of Manuel,
- 19:33who I love him. I love him Manuel, so, well, I
- 19:37don' t have that and I know I' m counting on them,
- 19:45but from here I expect nothing more than that. Not sure, we are
- 19:48going through a very terrible moment in the audiovisual industry, culture in general.
- 19:55So I guess there' s not going to be any work, but I
- 20:00' m sure there' s going to be a great repercussion of this international
- 20:06work because of what you told me outside the microphone and because, besides,
- 20:12with such a character as Ricardo Aronovicz, let' s hope that many more
- 20:19doors will open, pabla laugh and thank you so much for accompanying us and
- 20:25good congratulations for this new achievement. Thank you, thank you very much.
- 20:26Thanks to you all the time. Okay. We' re still on GPS
- 20:32audio- visual radio. I want it to be very present. Well,
- 20:40actually, we' re doing this documentary. I had not heard the story
- 20:45of a small story over the years a thousand times. I told him it
- 20:49' s now that I have to make my film and see if I want
- 20:53to be an astronaut and we were all really new. That made us not
- 20:57thinking whether or not the film was going to be a success of the freak
- 21:03head it was. I never imagined it, but love is more a little.
- 21:11What they told us a lot about the time was they came out of
- 21:15the caves at night and dawn came. Then we decided to do the same
- 21:19ritual and painted a gin and we all farted, but folded, bent or
- 21:25plated, those two dishes I like. I think the fair thing would be
- 21:33for us to discuss the technical details after the payment that were the hairs that
- 21:36had the light show. I didn' t have a big participation myself,
- 21:38but I was in the cannea all day then I never went up there again
- 21:51how nice I can talk all my life about such a homer, because it
- 21:56was a movie that I want to say to myself not to know old naked
- 22:07Legend Feroz, the documentary that revives Tango Feroz, a film by Denisur Fake
- 22:14and Mariano Frigerio, Legenda Feroz. Premiere in halls all over the country.
- 22:22In front of us tomorrow I process with Ofelia, but I think she'
- 22:26ll be out early. It' s so dull because of the inauguration of
- 22:30the new temple. You want me to see to it that the last of
- 22:33Sunday we' re going to stop at the rose. We can' t
- 22:36go straight, we' ll drive myself if you' re tired, you
- 22:40' re not on the road and I' m missing to teach you things.
- 22:41We' re still walking. Sure, there' s a town about
- 22:51patience. Any good lord will not abandon us now or you are all of
- 22:56you or anything I need this is your wife warns me, no, she
- 23:06is not my wife, my daughter Elena. How much you calculate I need
- 23:12broken, sir I get it in olaca don' t worry about us.
- 23:15We have time and deep are you nowhere we mission Praised, Lord Blessings Brothers,
- 23:27Blessings, Brothers, but what is your name is Emilio. You don
- 23:34' t get the punch. You don' t get the punch. I
- 23:37' m worth as much as I' m worth to the law. God
- 23:37gave you a mighty beautiful spirit. I' d like to invite Cemilio to
- 23:44come here for a baptism where the pastor takes out be careful what gets his
- 23:49head in. In the village there are many evangelicals, just as you are
- 23:57insistent are not out for me eye the wind that sweeps away with direction of
- 24:07Paula Hernández, hailed in Toronto and San Sebastián the wind that sweeps away.
- 24:14Premiere in Salas Thursday 21st March. Tohomás Lipcot premieres on Thursday six its new
- 24:27documentary Seeds that fall away from their roots, a film that, under the
- 24:34surface of an inquiry about Chinese migrants living in Argentina, lets glimpse the search
- 24:41for an identity that involves us all. We' re with Tomás Lipgott.
- 24:48It' s a great pleasure to welcome you here on Radio Tomás audio-
- 24:53visual GPS, how you are, hello, Julia, how Andás. Long
- 24:56time, yes, long time, but well, you' re always very
- 25:00active. That' s good. Seeds falling away from their roots, had
- 25:04its world premiere at the Baffici Not what movie you saw. So, on
- 25:10the other hand, it was the first screening with open public on large screen.
- 25:21I was surprised by the truth and also saw the protagonists for the first
- 25:25time. I already get tired of the movies in a montage, because I
- 25:30see them many times and well, I don' t want to know anything
- 25:37anymore after or I find it hard to have a fresh vision, but also
- 25:41good you see there everything that was worked and the fruit of so many years
- 25:45and the shooting and the montage and I liked it, I liked it.
- 25:47It' s a film that was left, it was seen and very compact,
- 25:51very long sixty- five minutes. When we started with the mountaineer to
- 25:53work, the material was so good that we said good ogra two hours.
- 25:57The film was benched two and a half hours and still lasted sixty- five
- 26:03minutes, because well, one is also learning to go to the root to
- 26:10the essentials and there is something that is of the Chinese, also of the
- 26:14Chinese culture that good I took a bit in the titles also so content the
- 26:18truth that I like. There was a choral movie that I didn' t
- 26:22know was going to work well or not. You have a risky proposition.
- 26:26Also a way of filming it that is different from all my previous questions.
- 26:30There was something experimental about the boarding. So I think it works and people
- 26:37liked it and the protagonists also felt like well portrayed, so I' m
- 26:42happy with that. Now, a question that is not original, but why
- 26:48are you focusing this time on the Chinese Community? What attracted you to decide
- 26:59to make this documentary good? What did you find there that could resonate with
- 27:06you to make a movie watch. It was a mistake, like a confusion,
- 27:11and those things I paid attention to because I was traveling in China I
- 27:17was just presenting a documentary when I was starting the pandemic and I had an
- 27:23interview with you at the consulate and I had an interview with the consul and
- 27:29I got confused and opened the door more instead of going to her office,
- 27:32and I opened a door where there was a large Chinese family doing the migration
- 27:36procedures. Then I learned well to eat all the Vuel they also found me
- 27:40at the consulate and I said wow, these are our Chinese and all the
- 27:44migratory return that you make seemed to me as mind- blowing, added to
- 27:51a personal interest that I have in Chinese culture, in Taoism, in Buddhism
- 27:53also that that is not as Chinese as I said. Well, I have
- 27:57to do something with the Chinese. And when I got here, I started
- 28:03researching and it ended up being something else, because in reality that migrant return
- 28:07makes him almost all the Chinese who work in supermarkets. It' s like
- 28:11the best- known Chinese, the most shuddered, also at the audiovisual level,
- 28:18and I started researching and I found a group of Chinese. Nothing to
- 28:21do with that image of Chinese supermarket, intellectual people, psychoanalysts, and I
- 28:29found it interesting to have another vision that I also started to see what was
- 28:33done in the Argentine lighting, and there were always two places that repeated that
- 28:36it was the supermarket and the other Chinese. So, if it was done
- 28:40that, I thought I' d contribute somewhere else and you started digging in
- 28:45there? So, that' s where I started digging and yes, luckily,
- 28:49I didn' t do that much research because this group showed up.
- 28:52They are a group of friends who came as in combo all the characters like
- 28:59this and on the other hand, there is a story of a little chinito
- 29:02who plays football, who wants to be a professional footballer and who is training
- 29:07here in Argentina to play in China, that this story follows that part,
- 29:11so there are like two groups, that is to say all the characters who
- 29:14know each other have a group that joins with Argentines of friends who eat Saturdays
- 29:18and that I know. And on the other hand, there' s this
- 29:22little chinito who plays football that was recommended to me by one of the characters
- 29:26in the movie, so I didn' t do much research either. That
- 29:29wasn' t quite fluid and how this fan was shaped. Let' s
- 29:34say you had to choose, let' s say, characters beyond those who
- 29:41were coming to you by chance as you say which ones you decided. They
- 29:47' re all characters and not others. No. Not so much, in
- 29:51reality it was like mutating internally because there was like a predominance of a character
- 29:55who was going to be the protagonist, because he is a character who works
- 29:59with the Chinese who just arrived here and helps them with the language and to
- 30:04translate and all the parts because they come already. No. This was cut
- 30:07off enough, but the Chinese came with a matter of half- pregnant migration
- 30:14to the woman and having the child here to get the papers. Then she
- 30:18gave him as a place of many amparos with translation and with the help throughout
- 30:23the world of hospitable. But that didn' t happen, it didn'
- 30:29t succeed because it' s very difficult to sign. Those are very Indian
- 30:32issues, very closed. Then I realized that this character couldn' t,
- 30:34since he wasn' t going to have the strength to be a protagonist and
- 30:38then he ended up being all equated. As I was saying, a more
- 30:42choral question, which wasn' t the idea of the beginning. And I
- 30:45like it because it' s like there' s a common theme, that
- 30:48' s identity, it crosses cultures, it' s talking about different characters,
- 30:52but deep down, it' s like a unique discourse that challenges us
- 30:56all and I hope that also viewers. On that other side, well says
- 31:03the review of Baffisi' s programming in his latest films, seems to go
- 31:07with special emphasis in search of the transparency of the world, the dedication of
- 31:15people to make life better, more friendly and blissful. There' s a
- 31:22humanistic look at your work. Well, bass people, if you love me
- 31:26so much you say, you' re losing your hand. Something happens that
- 31:30I don' t know that it' s humanistic, because the human is
- 31:33very complex. It includes the dark and the destructive and the luminous as well.
- 31:40But it may be that I am looking at characters who seek to transcend,
- 31:45as a certain state of decay or discomfort in the culture, which is
- 31:49already very evident. That was or is something I want to contribute because I
- 31:57say well, if I am going to do something look, it will not
- 32:01contribute anything to humanity or to the whole of all beings. I don'
- 32:06t know what it' s all about Maybe that' s not like looking
- 32:13for a turn around. Not that common element in your work. We could
- 32:16say it' s your signature. Yeah, yeah, it could be my
- 32:24obsession. I don' t know, even though I always try to cum,
- 32:30I don' t always have projects that go the other way, but
- 32:35it may be yes if there is a search there, if you want to
- 32:39do the human thing, of what the human phenomenon or the human experience implies.
- 32:43That' s almost all yes, all documentaries were kind of focused on
- 32:49the most human portrait part. Not likely. I don' t do much
- 32:54to think about my work. It' s hard for me to put in
- 32:57that place. That gives me a little modesty, but yes, it'
- 33:04s true that it' s like an obsession I' ve had. Yeah,
- 33:07look for the bright side of the characters that are anonymous. On the
- 33:13other hand, it' s not that you' re going after a famous,
- 33:20well- known, and then you' re trying to do it,
- 33:25to take a portrait out of there, but they' re unique beings,
- 33:35but also with that bright look that, well, maybe it' s hard
- 33:40for you to say for being able to lose what I accept is good.
- 33:40And if there is something, there is something that moves me from that not
- 33:45from the human being, that fights or that brings something, that does something
- 33:52doesn' t stay in a state of comfort. If there' s something
- 33:57there in that search that maybe I' m busing for myself, I don
- 34:00' t know there That' s how I put the issue, but there
- 34:07' s something there that I have. With that I admit, not how
- 34:09to capture characters that work on an audiovisual level. You can' t tell
- 34:14me something wrong. I know, but since that' s more intuitive,
- 34:16I couldn' t say how I do it. There' s something else.
- 34:21I don' t know energetically call it whatever you want, but it
- 34:24' s another order not to say good this character, this story, that
- 34:29have something my interests also not, but of course they can be a very
- 34:32interesting character that doesn' t work on an audiovisual level, which is another
- 34:40topic that works, because it doesn' t have enough charisma or pregnance or
- 34:45whatever to star in a story. But, well, it' s a
- 34:47lot of trade. That' s it, this height is already the lowest.
- 34:51They put me in the trajectory section It' s about to come together.
- 34:55Well, you' ve got work to do to talk about a trajectory.
- 34:59Tom Lipcot now does seeds that fall away from its roots, it has
- 35:06beyond being starring members of the Chinese Community. A look also at the origin,
- 35:15about identity. Don' t make the movie. He made you check
- 35:22your own identity. Yes, of course, it' s better. I
- 35:27put it in different movies of mine. I' m a pseudonym, which
- 35:30is my last name backwards and after this movie I' m also using my
- 35:37original last name, which is Gocley. It seems half- hearted, because
- 35:40there is the director and the screenwriter, who is Lincott, and the producer,
- 35:45who is Góti, but it seemed to me the best way to integrate
- 35:47it, because I am those two things. I' m that hit I
- 35:50made you up in a way. That identity is one identity and the other,
- 35:55which is the one I bring from the cradle, did not then bring
- 35:58me as one to an acceptance. It is a process, of course,
- 36:01but for some reason I chose to do this too and it coincides with this
- 36:07personal issue. If you see the final credits, the two identities appear,
- 36:12because that is what identities are, that all identities. The last name comes
- 36:15with one after you can transcend it or you can do something else. Identity
- 36:21is a garment. It' s something we put on to work. The
- 36:25problem if you think you are. That' s another topic already clear and
- 36:34with this gotclip you have outstanding debts as for a movie, why it now
- 36:43appears in credits, for example. No, no, I don' t
- 36:47accept it. I wouldn' t want to do you if you meant doing
- 36:52something like that a documentary. Yeah, yeah, no, I already the
- 36:55jais mosir and I who is like the docto, I the self- referentiality.
- 37:01I already think it' s too much. I think it' s
- 37:05too much. It' s not of interest. It' s more of
- 37:07a question of mine. I don' t see much significance, but I
- 37:10' m not at that point. It is good, because this process,
- 37:15this documentary questioned me in that sense. He didn' t hit me much
- 37:21with a phrase he used. I used one of the protagonists, Gustavo,
- 37:23who says that a tree to bear fruit has to sink its roots. No,
- 37:30there is no way it will bear fruit, but one of its roots.
- 37:32And, well, that kind of painted me for this process of mine.
- 37:38Great sentence. On the other hand, great observation. Yes, very
- 37:44good, very nice, well and now of course, of course. I
- 37:46guess so. I mean, I don' t know as much as you
- 37:50do. You had a chance people from the Chinese community, but it gives
- 37:57me that it' s also something very Chinese that kind of reflections. Not
- 38:01good, and now what' s the way. So, next week'
- 38:06s opening, yes, next Thursday. We are in a very rare context,
- 38:14because it is good that we do not need to say it, but
- 38:17there is a state of affairs very yes, very critical, very serious at
- 38:22the country level and economic and all political, but in particular in cinema.
- 38:27So it' s kind of weird to go out on the air right now.
- 38:30It' s weird. It' s a different session, because one,
- 38:34of course, which is an emotion, is a birth. There'
- 38:37s a lot of effort back there. But well, accompanied by one of
- 38:39those, they are also very big of everything that is going on with the
- 38:44runca and with the activity and with all the people who are unemployed. The
- 38:47other time I was told by a friend who has a chat group of film
- 38:53technicians. Yeah, that group was always made to change your job, and
- 38:59now they' re rolling bags of food and people who can' t eat.
- 39:02It' s really tremendous what' s going on, but well,
- 39:08let' s hope they change. There does not seem to be a very
- 39:10positive look at the sector. No, but we have to keep doing it,
- 39:16not trying to move forward, despite the obstacles that are putting us all
- 39:24in general. I mean, we' ll keep creating and, well,
- 39:29if there are people who leave their posts, then there are others. Culture
- 39:36is not going to disappear, but it is a very hard blow that we
- 39:39are doing exactly. Tomás Clipcot, thank you so much for joining us once
- 39:46again and good for the best with this premiere of your new documentary. I
- 39:52' ll send you a very large fat. Thank you as always, for
- 39:55the space and very grateful. Thank you. We' re still on audio
- 40:07- visual GPS Radio r Hola Silvio la paula even with you. He didn
- 40:09' t call you anything. Not because he went to the doctor' s
- 40:14in the morning and didn' t call me. He didn' t come
- 40:15back. No, I don' t know anything. And weird your brother,
- 40:17where you are, how I know you called the police. Yeah,
- 40:24I went to report it, but I didn' t take a drome.
- 40:28I was told that he was most likely helped with the boyfriend and that he
- 40:34told you he still has his clothes on to school and the police. What
- 40:37did you do with all this? Yes, life and I saw it topá
- 40:45because I had already used it or quickly something else or I touched those are
- 41:05the invisible law with the lioner A Wexler, Vanesa González and Antonella Ferrari,
- 41:12a film by Guillermo Navarro, with production of Rio Films. Premiere only in
- 41:16Salas. Guillermo Navarro premieres on Thursday, June 6, Historias Invisibles, filmed
- 41:32entirely in the province of Mendoza and with production of Rio Films, starring Leonora
- 41:38Wexler, Vanesa González and Antonella Ferrari. The fictional account addresses the subject of
- 41:46trafficking and makes it key thriller. We' re with Guillermo Navarro. How
- 41:52are you? Nice to meet you here on GPS audio- visual radio.
- 41:59How are you? Nice to meet you and thank you for having me and
- 42:02a greeting for you and for the whole audience. Well, where are you
- 42:05right now, Guillermo, I' m already here in Mendoza, sorry.
- 42:09I' m here for a couple of days in a hotel, so it
- 42:14' s not an ideal place. I hope you hear me well. It
- 42:16sounds good, yes, it looks perfect, yes, well, you wrote
- 42:21this story after investigating many cases of forced prostitution in Argentina, what interested you
- 42:29in this investigation to decide to take it to the screen. Well, sort
- 42:36of. At first he didn' t do a very thorough investigation. I
- 42:39was living abroad and I started to see news from Argentina in these cases and
- 42:44as an Argentine, obviously I was very upset that this happened so often and
- 42:52at one point I started to wonder what I would do. I wouldn'
- 42:54t do it if my daughter disappeared one day for the other and went out
- 42:58looking for her. And I find the police don' t help, the
- 43:01judicial system doesn' t help. I find myself to see that they are
- 43:06all involved, that they are two accomplices, the politicians, the police and
- 43:08everyone. Well, from there I started writing. This is a fiction,
- 43:15although the inspiration was all these real cases that I was seeing. And well,
- 43:21I wrote a script that I sent him a competition in Hollywood, in
- 43:27Los Angeles, and I sent him because they selected twelve finalists and well,
- 43:32in the end I ended up among the twelve finalists, then among the first
- 43:37three mentions and ended up winning the best feature screenplay award. So, well,
- 43:39there I' ve been a while since I was in Argentina and I
- 43:44came and I was quite disconnected with the world of cinema here and well,
- 43:50a long story, but I' m not going to be short. I
- 43:52knew Sofia Toro for the Chinese, which is perhaps one of the best for
- 43:59the best producer of Acá de dosa and together we started a long way to
- 44:06develop the film. She immediately felt identified with the script Well, we worked
- 44:12together, shoulder to shoulder, carrying this forward until today, when I came
- 44:15to Argentina. That' s where I start digging a little deeper. I
- 44:21met with victims, mothers who lost their daughters, and well, two things
- 44:28happened. One that several of the things I had imagined were quite approximate and
- 44:37some details was very rare to me because they were so. But another was
- 44:45that the actual cases were in general much worse, much worse than one imagines.
- 44:52I think if you put reality 100% on a screen, it would
- 44:55be unbearable to see it clear. So, we elaborate this script that is
- 45:02intense. It' s on the top of the chair until the last minute.
- 45:07We did it that way in thriller tone and good, but one is
- 45:16not really reality. It' s you have to imagine five or six steps
- 45:24higher than terrible. No. Yeah, I guess so now. Yes,
- 45:28it was since then, it was from the beginning a fictional story and you
- 45:35were always in this double role as a screenwriter and director. Yes, yes,
- 45:38yes, yes, to me good cinema, the independent author and from
- 45:45the beginning it was so. I think fiction has a much stronger power sometimes
- 45:52than the periodigic, which you documented. I come from a family of father,
- 46:00mother and two brothers. So, but fiction has something that you identify
- 46:05with the character in a certain way, almost unconsciously. One becomes the character
- 46:10that sees on the screen, suffers and feels like that character, then has
- 46:15a deeper emotional reach. Now, this award you had in Hollywood opened up
- 46:25the possibility of filming this story in the United States or you decided directly that
- 46:31it would be here in Mendoza. Well, there were some warm attempts by
- 46:37some producers who read the script They liked it, but the proposals were to
- 46:45do it in English. Yeah, and then it was watching the story is
- 46:52written in Argentina. He says well, he doesn' t sign it in
- 46:54Argentina, but with actors who speak English and let' s not say he
- 46:59doesn' t accept it. So I preferred to keep the thing so more
- 47:06argent and more And what you or what Mendoza offered you and more specifically this
- 47:15producer Rio Films, which is with which you are now carrying out the premiere
- 47:21at the end of this project. Well, we saw other provinces. I
- 47:28traveled with Sofia another we consider good Aires, we consider a moment Santiago,
- 47:35the Estero and good we decided for Mendoza, because we thought it was more
- 47:40appropriate. The story occurs in four different provinces and then this is an independent
- 47:50film with a very low budget and did not give us to travel to the
- 47:57province. So Mendoza, we had the loops that we could find opportunities to
- 48:04make them pass like other provinces. That was perhaps one of the first considerations.
- 48:08In the second was that there was here a group of technicians and some
- 48:17actors who were very valuable and because it is fundamental the logistics of a film
- 48:24are complicated. I mean, there are provinces in Argentina. It would be
- 48:27very Cute Filmar, but you have to take all the technicians from Buenos Aires
- 48:32or Cordoba or some Mendoza, from some province that has some kind of infrastructure,
- 48:37Mendoza has, it is not huge, but it has yes, and
- 48:42there were also some government supports. All the municipalities were very kind. They
- 48:46facilitated us from the police to cut the traffic, for safety up to these
- 48:54electricity connections of the named public, because I command in the middle of the
- 49:00street, in the middle of nowhere. So, well, there were several
- 49:05little things, so they were determinable. Now invisible stories are coming out.
- 49:09Finally, almost a decade took you the realization of this film. I understand
- 49:16well since I wrote the script Yeah, yeah, but, well, it
- 49:22' s been growing. Obviously, it was growing in history, that is,
- 49:27time, of course it' s a bit busy. I have at
- 49:30that time written a dozen scripts and everyone is finding their way. I don
- 49:37' t have a wish out of the next one, but out there,
- 49:39tomorrow I' ll give him a chance to do the other one and you
- 49:45move and out there you work on it and then, in two years,
- 49:49the other one becomes a little bit. The subject of cinema, not that
- 49:50it' s all like that, impossible to predict, impossible to tell what
- 49:57the way of the film is going to be. And now, with invisible
- 50:00stories already finished, how you define it, what you discovered, what new
- 50:08meaning you find out we are, I think very happy with how the film
- 50:21turned out. It' s been a very intense process, crazy, but
- 50:29very nice at the same time, because we' ve made a movie that
- 50:37tries to say something and I' d say that' s a novelty.
- 50:38We are in an era where everyone is superfluous. Everything lasts as long as
- 50:45Tweet. So it was a movie where you try to do something, say
- 50:50something. It was something he connected with from the actors who participated to the
- 50:57last technician. Everyone was saying check how proud to be in this movie.
- 51:00So that was something very, very interesting. I don' t think I
- 51:05' d experienced other films I worked before where everyone was pulling forward and proud
- 51:10to belong to the message we say communicate. And he' s a very
- 51:16intense thriller. As I told you, they have at the tip of the
- 51:19chair until the last minute and at the same time I don' t know
- 51:25shows a world that this whole world of trafficking is. For me there are
- 51:30many false perceptions about it. I think we' ve all seen, for
- 51:36example, a movie Liam Nison made. I think that' s what they
- 51:42' re looking for Where the bad guys are from the Albanian mob and they
- 51:46have a pris girl They' re like mose. The reality is that the
- 51:49prosenets are just around your house. Sonson, it' s tangible things,
- 51:53yes, of course you' re buying apple at the vegetable shop and the
- 51:59guy or the woman, because women are so much buying bananas, that is,
- 52:02next to you. It' s all very gray. Not then we
- 52:07try to paint a world grayer, not so black and white. And,
- 52:13well, maybe I hope people start looking at this a little bit more.
- 52:20And the other thing is that good. I hope we reflect a criticism of
- 52:25everything that happens. I see these fathers and mothers who go out looking for
- 52:30Serian, go out to look for their daughters as superheroes, the real superheroes
- 52:37like Marvel, because the pornos and they are not afraid of anything and are
- 52:39able to get into a brothel, to face a drug dealer, that is,
- 52:46they do the impossible to find their daughters with a bravery and truth a
- 52:51tremendous bravura. So, reflect that hero of these mothers. For me it
- 53:02was much more important than the hero, for example, Beleam Nison made making
- 53:08real We don' t try to like that reality. The stereotype in which
- 53:14many Hollywood productions often fall. Of course we' re not making anything up.
- 53:21No, unfortunately, oh well, or this thing that you were listening
- 53:25to that there were possibilities to film this award- winning script in Hollywood,
- 53:32there were possibilities to film in the United States and I heard you relate it
- 53:42and I imagine that there would also have been that look on Latinos that usually
- 53:47also exists in the cinema of those latitudes. Well, it was just the
- 53:50scheme you wanted to escape. Really. Yeah, yeah, that' s
- 53:54not so much out there because I don' t know the script. I
- 53:59think that since they read it to him, they saw it as something original,
- 54:01which was just surprising that it was that Latino that they are quickly stereotyped.
- 54:09But yeah, right away, let' s say the Americanizes and,
- 54:16well, we' ve seen it already millions of movies that have pretended never
- 54:24to be here never know how good and it wasn' t what you wanted
- 54:29to portray. Guillermo Navarro is then the screenwriter and director of invisible stories.
- 54:37This production of Rio Films filmed in Mendoza, which premieres on June 6.
- 54:45And yes, being the country, all over the country, in rooms,
- 54:50all over the country, exclusively in rooms, is not true, yes,
- 54:53yes. Moreover, we still have no arrangement with any platform. So I
- 54:58want to encourage people to go to the movies for multiple reasons. First,
- 55:02then, the film that' s not going to mess you up is one
- 55:07of those movies that you want to go see with your partner, with your
- 55:10friends and you finish watching it and you have to go for a coffee to
- 55:15talk about it, because it' s going to leave you thinking. It
- 55:17' s going to make you feel like you' re going to go on
- 55:24and also for the support of Argentine cinema. Year is passing a very hard
- 55:28story and it is a struggle to stay in the wings. There' s
- 55:32an average ticket you have to sell for another week, so they can keep
- 55:37you there. So it' s going to be very important every person who
- 55:45decides to go and well, if they follow us in our instagram of invisible
- 55:51stories, look for invisible stories, they' re going to find it right
- 55:55there right now we' re going to put it now. I think next
- 55:57Monday, this coming Monday, we' ll be confirmed by schedule rooms.
- 56:00We' re going to be publishing each and everyone can see that where he
- 56:07is is exactly, where exactly. We are also giving several materials to put
- 56:13on Instagram that we are trying to expand the film a little bit also make
- 56:17it a great awareness event working with networks that work against the treat. I
- 56:25am inviting, for example, the function we are going to do in Buenos
- 56:30Aires, the six a. Margarita Meira, who is one of these heroines,
- 56:35a mother who lost her son during Menem' s rule and has been
- 56:37fighting ever since. Rescued a lot of girls, helped a lot of moms
- 56:44and well, I told her Mira, I want her to be my personal
- 56:49guest and have you there at the premiere. We will then be following very
- 56:52closely everything that happens with invisible stories. Guillermo Navarro, thank you so much
- 57:00for accompanying and well, we will continue to report with Guillermo Navarro. We
- 57:05' re saying goodbye then until next Wednesday. Thank you for joining us and
- 57:14for following us and as we say, always watch Argentine cinema and today more
- 57:21than ever until next week. Thanks this was Radio audiovisual jets. We expect
- 57:45you next Wednesday at 19 hours by radio thirty or thirty n three.