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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 6-8-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff, let's start with Jonathan Cooper. He was in court
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  Speaker 1: earlier Monday morning, Douglas County Courtroom. What's all the latest
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: on what's going on with Jonathan Cooper in his weekend
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  Speaker 1: missing Well, I mean just the.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly a procedural, you know, next step a plea hearing,
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  Speaker 2: pled not guilty as you would expect, and then basically
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  Speaker 2: they searched the docket for dates the judge thinks will
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  Speaker 2: work for the next stages, that there'll be some kind
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  Speaker 2: of motions hearing soon where if attorneys for either side
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  Speaker 2: have some things they want to present that the judge
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  Speaker 2: should consider or you know, to get removed or put in,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then a trial date. In late July,
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  Speaker 2: Cooper's legal team asked for a trial date as quickly
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  Speaker 2: as possible because of training camp, and the judge's first
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  Speaker 2: open day was just before training camp's going to open.
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  Speaker 2: So if it's a one or two day trial, if
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  Speaker 2: it goes to trial, then then that's when it would happen.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff, this is a situation and there were multiple charges
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  Speaker 1: brought against multiple parties in all of this. In such
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  Speaker 1: a situation, is this thing sure to get to that trial?
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  Speaker 1: In July or could charges still be dropped?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think all around.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it is, you know, it's obviously notre getting
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  Speaker 2: notoriety because of who he is. But in the legal picture,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a domestic confrontation with two very
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  Speaker 2: differing stories, and you know, I'm sure each person involved
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  Speaker 2: is going to have a different approach maybe to how
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  Speaker 2: this goes. But yeah, I mean it's it's always possible
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  Speaker 2: something like this doesn't go to trial if it didn't
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  Speaker 2: include a notable person. You know a lot of times.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's been decades, but when I was on
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  Speaker 2: the police beat in Chicago long ago, these were the
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  Speaker 2: types of things that got that didn't see a jury trial,
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  Speaker 2: as it were. But you know, I can't say how
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  Speaker 2: this this one will go, all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Jeff, Week two of the off season program, you know,
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  Speaker 4: ta is whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: What are we expecting from this week? What? What? What?
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  Speaker 4: Possibly would you go out there and watch off of
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  Speaker 4: building off of last week's momentum?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Andy, I watch everything.
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  Speaker 4: No, I know, people don't know you're watching.
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  Speaker 1: On Thursday, I was standing in front of Jeff like
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  Speaker 1: wald nice, and I felt terrible about that mostly because
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  Speaker 1: I need Jeff to come on my show and tell
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  Speaker 1: me everything that happened, so I can't be blocking him,
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  Speaker 1: and then and then I don't know what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: and then our listeners don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: It was extremely rude to me, and I apologize.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just going to tell you right now, you
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  Speaker 4: you can have a high opinion of yourself.
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  Speaker 3: If Legwall doesn't want to be blocked, he won't be blocked.
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  Speaker 3: In fact that you were in the way meant he
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  Speaker 3: allowed you to be in the way.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a good point because when I turned to
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  Speaker 1: Jeff and I was like, sorry, Jeff, up in your way,
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  Speaker 1: he was just like I didn't even notice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was up to something. Is what
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  Speaker 3: that means. I deferred.
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  Speaker 2: I deferred kindly, he did. I deferred the prime real
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  Speaker 2: estate very kindly because I was in I had my
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  Speaker 2: angles covered. That was all good.
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  Speaker 5: He was good to go.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't need to see whatever crap I was looking at.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you that.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting though, that a lot of teams sort
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  Speaker 2: of going incremental, you know, one OTA, then they ramp
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  Speaker 2: up slightly for the next OTA set, and then a little.
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  Speaker 3: More for Mini Camp.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton has gone out of his way to sort
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  Speaker 2: of say all three are going to look the same roughly,
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  Speaker 2: just with time spent in meetings, uh, and time spent
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  Speaker 2: on the field can be slightly more during the mini
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  Speaker 2: camp next week. So I think that's a factor of
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  Speaker 2: how he constructs the offseason as a whole. They stay
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  Speaker 2: in the phase one with in the CBA, Phase one
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  Speaker 2: is listed as conditioning only, and they stay in that
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  Speaker 2: longer than any other team. There are some teams that
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  Speaker 2: have already I think two teams have already done them
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  Speaker 2: any camp, including the Steelers, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, he likes this.
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  Speaker 2: Construction of the offseason, so honestly, I think the two
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  Speaker 2: sets of OTAs in the mini camp will look very
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  Speaker 2: similar because that's the way he likes it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, Jeff, and that's that's how he's
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  Speaker 1: handled the conditioning side of things. We have certainly seen
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  Speaker 1: that given that he has a team that played in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC Championship, so they played deeper than almost everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: And then oh, by the way, there's like almost like
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  Speaker 1: no roster turnover on this team. How has all of
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  Speaker 1: that informed his approach in terms of the football preparation,
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  Speaker 1: install and everything else, not just the conditioning side of things.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think they feel very compelled to
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  Speaker 2: do a whole lot of you know, furious install right now.
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  Speaker 2: I think they are more getting the young guys up
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  Speaker 2: to speed so they can practice the way they want
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  Speaker 2: to practice. I can say this, this will be my
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  Speaker 2: fortieth full season doing this as a beat writer. I
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  Speaker 2: have not in the free agent even though it includes this,
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  Speaker 2: really dates me before free agency. This this is like
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  Speaker 2: a team that would come to camp before free agency.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is how it looked back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's intriguing to me. I've never seen this
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  Speaker 2: in any team I've covered in the free agency era.
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  Speaker 2: So I am intrigued to see how it all plays out,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, it was a very concerted effort and
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  Speaker 2: it's very rare. And when you look at them in
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  Speaker 2: the big picture, it's kind of you know, they're positioned
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  Speaker 2: better than most other a Timmy, they're thirty first in
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  Speaker 2: dead money. Only the Seahawks have less, So you're talking
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  Speaker 2: to the final four teams from last year or near
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  Speaker 2: the bottom in terms of least dead money. And they
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  Speaker 2: have salary cap space, so and oh yeah, they have
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  Speaker 2: a mountain of cash no one else has. So life
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  Speaker 2: is pretty good on the part of the team. We
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  Speaker 2: don't really tell, you know, the financial side, that's behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes. But and there's a you know, gleaming palace
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be open by the time they all
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  Speaker 2: come back for training camps. So it is an interesting
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  Speaker 2: place where they've put themselves. And if they're healthy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know Vegas doesn't agree, but if they're healthy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how all this plays out
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  Speaker 2: when September rolls wrong?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Jeff Miles Garrett, he gets traded last week.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it feels like Rams are back into We
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  Speaker 4: won't worry about the future when the future arrives.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to.
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  Speaker 4: Build for this right now. And you mentioned Vegas right
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  Speaker 4: there in the odds. I know, I think I heard
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  Speaker 4: Dan Tanner saying that all of a sudden in a
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  Speaker 4: lot of places that the Rams have leave brogged everybody
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  Speaker 4: to be the favorite.
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  Speaker 3: How do you.
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  Speaker 4: Break this out as far as the top five or
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  Speaker 4: six contenders? You and I how about I put it
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  Speaker 4: this way to give you better of a map of
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  Speaker 4: what I'm looking for here. You used to tell me
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  Speaker 4: all the time when we were talking Broncos, when Maning
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  Speaker 4: was here, you got one of the four guys. Therefore,
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  Speaker 4: you're always going to be in one of those final
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  Speaker 4: four conversations. With all the stuff that's going on in
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  Speaker 4: the off season, Lugarius Sneen signs a one year deal
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  Speaker 4: to stay at the Chiefs this week and all that,
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  Speaker 4: where do you think the Broncos are because Vegas? What
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  Speaker 4: is Vegas pushed them down six or seven something like that?
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  Speaker 4: Where where do you think the Broncos are as far as.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty to one to win the Super Bowl right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: They're not. They're not high at all.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think you know, the Knicks component for
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  Speaker 2: the betting world can't be underestimated. To me, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: just you know, I think already you know he would
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  Speaker 2: not be because he's young a and in that part
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  Speaker 2: of developmental part of his career. You know, where does
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  Speaker 2: he fit on the tier of quarterbacks. The Broncos love him,
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  Speaker 2: and but I'm not sure you know that level of
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  Speaker 2: love would translate to betters or fans of other teams.
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  Speaker 2: I think the I think the Broncos are sort of
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  Speaker 2: that body of work team, you know, really good defense,
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  Speaker 2: a coach highly respected, you know, and you know they've
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  Speaker 2: won twenty four games in the last two years, so
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  Speaker 2: that puts you in a different tier from most teams.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure the Rams going to or Garrett
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  Speaker 2: going to the Rams impacts sort of the whole pecking order.
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  Speaker 2: I think people thought highly of the Rams before they
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  Speaker 2: even made that deal. So I think the Broncos, for
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  Speaker 2: you know, the league when I talk to people, have
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  Speaker 2: the sort of same status, and it's the things we've
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  Speaker 2: all talked about. You know, they're a team constructed, they
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  Speaker 2: got to stay healthy, Wattle's going to have to be
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  Speaker 2: really good, and the defense is going to have to
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  Speaker 2: be on a level near of the last two years.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think they're in the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think is the next step that Sean
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  Speaker 1: is looking for from bow Knicks and how does the
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  Speaker 1: offseason injury impact his ability to get there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, any lower body injuries you're
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  Speaker 2: throwing platform. Yeah, and what's the big thing they've tried
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  Speaker 2: to address in both play call and and personnel is
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  Speaker 2: you know, start with twenty yards plus down the field.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a disaster.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent completion rate, and you know, I always
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  Speaker 2: say you're if you're a high value passing team and
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  Speaker 2: your low efficiency, that's a bad combo and the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Nicks led the league in attempts, and the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos were third in the league in pass attempts of
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  Speaker 2: twenty yards or more and they were only completing thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight percent of those. So your high volume, low efficiency,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think they will really challenge at defenses
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  Speaker 2: and get the kind of looks they want in the
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  Speaker 2: run game until that's repaired. You have to force defenses
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  Speaker 2: to do. You have to punish them for their decisions
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  Speaker 2: against you. And the last two years the Broncos have
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  Speaker 2: not punished defenses enough for the decisions they've made. They've
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  Speaker 2: been carried by their own defense keeping them around in games.
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  Speaker 2: So Bo could be really good at what he's best
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  Speaker 2: at early in his career, and that's those late moments,
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter drives, when the menu gets shorter and he
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  Speaker 2: can work at the pace he wants to work at.
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  Speaker 1: Is the hope that and Jeff, the hope is is
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  Speaker 1: that Bonnicks becomes better at completing intermediate throws. Obviously, is
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  Speaker 1: it possible that Jalen Wattle can be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a workaround for that, that the Broncos can still
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  Speaker 1: find those kind of chunks of yardage without necessarily being
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  Speaker 1: able to complete those kind of throws just because of
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  Speaker 1: Wattle's catch and run threat.
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  Speaker 2: What he gives them they don't what they don't have
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  Speaker 2: is and I was talking about this with Andy the
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  Speaker 2: other day, is what he gives them is he wins
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  Speaker 2: on the release. Yeah, and they have guys that win
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  Speaker 2: on the release, but as the play develops, the defender
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  Speaker 2: makes up ground on the current Broncos. When Sutton wins
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  Speaker 2: on the release, or Pat Bryant wins on the release,
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  Speaker 2: Evan Ingram wins on the release, they win. But if
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  Speaker 2: the ball's not out right, then the defender closes ground.
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  Speaker 2: Wattle wins on the release and he maintains the margin
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  Speaker 2: of victory longer in the play. So that gives you
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  Speaker 2: an option or the opportunity to create something. Uh. And
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  Speaker 2: they've they were they've been hoping Troy Franklin could be that,
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  Speaker 2: but he's been much better down the field than he
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  Speaker 2: has in the intermediate zone. And some of that is
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  Speaker 2: just because you got to be physical and feisty in there,
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  Speaker 2: and and Wattle is those things, uh, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: he gives them. He I mean, you can only you
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  Speaker 2: only have to watch like two routes and OTAs last
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  Speaker 2: week to see he's gonna win on the release virtually
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  Speaker 2: against anyone. But it's that he maintains that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: margin of victory as it were, to get to get
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  Speaker 2: the play all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Jeff. See that's interesting because.
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  Speaker 4: What what one position could benefit then the most, obviously
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  Speaker 4: the receivers. There's an answer I'm trying to get out
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  Speaker 4: of him. I feel like I feel like a prosecutor
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  Speaker 4: right now. Well, wat'll open up Evan Ingram.
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  Speaker 2: He should. I mean, he's gonna he's gonna dig a
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  Speaker 2: defender out somewhere. You're gonna have to help if he
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  Speaker 2: is everything they hope he is, and there's no reason
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  Speaker 2: to think he's not. I think I think he had
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  Speaker 2: the big drop in production in Miami because of other
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  Speaker 2: things in the offense. I don't think suddenly he was
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  Speaker 2: forty receptions worse you know than he was. I think
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  Speaker 2: they had other issues going. But he he forces everything
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  Speaker 2: to be different. You know, you can't look out teams
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  Speaker 2: down the stretch the last four games, including the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Look how they play Sutton. He's just getting all the
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  Speaker 2: help all the time, you know. And when Ingram wins
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the field, they can run him
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  Speaker 2: down before the ball's out. So all those things are benefited.
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  Speaker 2: If a guy can create space somewhere, force force issues,
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  Speaker 2: you know, force response, and if you're an offense that
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  Speaker 2: can force a response that you can predict, that's the
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  Speaker 2: best thing for an offense. If you can say we
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  Speaker 2: do this, they're going to do that, then suddenly you've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot more things that work that you didn't
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  Speaker 2: have before.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, you've covered this league a long time, as you said,
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  Speaker 4: going into your forty here. Now I have been around
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  Speaker 4: a long time as well. Never have I heard three
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  Speaker 4: hosts and a beat writer laud the exploits of a punter.
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  Speaker 4: But aside from you and a crakman, Vick Lombardi had
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  Speaker 4: to jump on that thing too. Should I read into
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  Speaker 4: the cross Shawn missiles that are being launched, because we
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  Speaker 4: don't really want to see a lot of those, Jeff,
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he launched them last year. It's just you just
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  Speaker 2: didn't know when the very non missile was going to
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  Speaker 2: show up.
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  Speaker 5: It did from time to time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the scud.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or the Christmas lights shot is the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the roof shot is as Sean would call it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just a consistency factor is what you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for in a punter. I I still do, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I was taught scouting the old way, you know, by
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  Speaker 2: by many, including my man the Late Sea a Verocado.
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  Speaker 2: But I do sometimes still with kickers and punters do
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  Speaker 2: the look away because a sound is worthy of paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to. And when he hits it right, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: uh not many guys can create that kind of that
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  Speaker 2: kind of impact, you know. And again we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: a punter, and I know that's not rocking the confetti
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  Speaker 2: cannons or anything, but when he does get a hold
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  Speaker 2: of one, it is a BP shot that's worthy of watching.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff I said to a friend of ours, this is
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  Speaker 1: the second most impressive punting display I've ever.
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  Speaker 5: Seen out here.
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  Speaker 1: Trailing only routed up Todd Sauerbrunt that that was how
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  Speaker 1: it could cross all Look.
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  Speaker 5: The other day, I.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you my benchmark for pure sound and fury of
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  Speaker 2: a kicker is Mason Crosby at the Senior Bowl. I
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  Speaker 2: really thought he was gonna dent the bleachers. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not exaggerated.
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah it was.
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  Speaker 2: You could look down, uh and you just knew it
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  Speaker 2: was just it was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's always.
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  Speaker 2: My my pinnacle benchmark for the sound and fury when
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  Speaker 2: I'm when I'm doing the audio scouting. But he was,
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  Speaker 2: he was thumping.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was pretty good to watch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was some gen Carlos Stanton crack of the bad
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that we were getting. And and by
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  Speaker 1: the way, and I mean he was pinning him on
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  Speaker 1: the sidelines too. It was it wasn't just what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing in terms of hang time and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: It was a really impressive display.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Pro this year, Jeffy. He really looks like he could
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  Speaker 5: play the part in that.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is I mean, you know again, I know
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about a punter and people are like, what
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  Speaker 2: what the hell are you guys talking about? No, I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's what I'm saying. In the developmental world, this
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  Speaker 2: is how it works. You know, when it's working and
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  Speaker 2: your scouts are working. You get Nick Benito out of
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  Speaker 2: a one point five snap in a you know, sack year.
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  Speaker 2: In this rookie year, you get this young guy who
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  Speaker 2: who look. I watched his tape in college and and
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  Speaker 2: it was you know, he was hitting three hundred at best,
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  Speaker 2: maybe with with quality shots, but when you saw the
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  Speaker 2: quality ones. Yeah, the ability to project that forward is
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  Speaker 2: what scouting is. And if he if he really is
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  Speaker 2: this spot in his development after you know, just over
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  Speaker 2: a year in the NFL, that's that's uh, that's pretty
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  Speaker 2: good developmental curve.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and guys tack on this part of the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and again, I know we're talking about a punter, but
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  Speaker 1: this Broncos team in twenty twenty six, Jalen Wattle, no,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, this is not going to turn into a
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  Speaker 1: thirty three point a game offense or anything else like that.
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  Speaker 1: This team is gonna win defensively, and they're gonna win
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: by playing good field position football and winning on the margins.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's I think it's gonna look very similar to how
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: it did last year, and a punter like that is
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: only the perfect compliment to one of the best defenses
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in football.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is the winning stuff they're building.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And you know, with a little bit on the I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: got news for your card is I think they've finished
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what twenty seventh and twenty eighth in three and outs
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the last two years.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I mean they've they.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: At the bottom of the They've been at the bottom
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of the league in three and out drives.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: I think he was second in the league in total
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: punts last year.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying they've they've been down at the bottom
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: of the league, down with the three win teams. Uh,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: they are the anomaly in both of those seasons. But
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you know, if if they can't get out of that neighborhood,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to be really good.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: A right money bags leg Well, anything you spending a
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: thousand bucks to go see we were talking about it earlier.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Any event, any concert.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You're dropping a thousand bucks to go watch the US
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: men's national team on Friday, that's something.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: That floats the leg walled boat. With all that ESPN
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: money coming in left and right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids would tell you, oh my god, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: should have my kids on and ask him that what
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: would your dad spend a thousand bucks for?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: They would say he still hasn't.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Well other than their college, have a few things to fire.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Bad's it, leggy Man, great stuff as always, we'll talk
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to you later this week.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks fellows.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: We'll see it.