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Building the LJ and TJ Jeep Wrangler for Overlanding · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the overl Anginal podcast. I am
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  Speaker 1: your host, Scott Brady, and I am with my co
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  Speaker 1: host Matt Scott in the house, and we are enjoying
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  Speaker 1: a Papago Orange Blossom beer because I prefer fruity beers,
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  Speaker 1: as do I.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, here's the people always say that we like
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  Speaker 1: Gurly drinks. Yeah, they're just better. They just taste better,
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  Speaker 1: Like to me, at least, I don't know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: just I never got the taste for, Like I want
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  Speaker 1: to drink something that's very high alcohol, it tastes like pete. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And somehow, when you when you look like a Neanderthal,
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  Speaker 1: you can drink a Gurly beer and it just seems
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  Speaker 1: to be fine. I just don't care. People think so, well,
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  Speaker 1: you have the advantage of not looking like a Neanderthal. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's just oranges are better than dirt, or
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  Speaker 1: IPAs IPAs are are like the male Okay, if the
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  Speaker 1: basic B word female thing is the frappuccino. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: basic bro thing ipa ipa. I think you're a frappucinos
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  Speaker 1: for men. It's all. Yeah, it's true. No, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do them. It's it's the bitter like I
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  Speaker 1: can't I know, the first drink is okay, and then
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  Speaker 1: you by the time you're halfway down, you're like, why
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  Speaker 1: am I still drinking this? Yeah? That's how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: This one's refreshing. I'm happy with my choices, and yes,
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  Speaker 1: other people can be happy with theirs, even though they're
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  Speaker 1: clearly inferior. So not the people, but their choices of alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about something that's not inferior, like your new
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  Speaker 1: TJ long Willbase, which is awesome. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I bought a two thousand and six wrangular Unlimited rubicon.
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  Speaker 1: I guess in the jeep sphere that's kind of a unicorn.
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  Speaker 1: It is. They're super rare. I haven't looked up the
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  Speaker 1: exact production figure, but I think it's I've read that
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  Speaker 1: they made ten thousand ulimited rubicons. I've read that they've
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  Speaker 1: made fourteen thousand limited rubicons on the unlimiteds which, or
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  Speaker 1: anybody that's not listening, they made them for two years.
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  Speaker 1: While the Jeep TJ was made from ninety seven to
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and six, the Unlimited was only made for
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and five and two thousand and six model years,
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  Speaker 1: which makes it fairly special. Yeah. I mean, by any standards,
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  Speaker 1: fourteen thousand units of something is rare, right, Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's like very special cars that are only at fourteen thousand.
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  Speaker 1: They made fourteen thousand Ferrari four or five eights. There
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  Speaker 1: you go, it's just a random figure. Yeah, that's how
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  Speaker 1: rare they are. Yeah. I really like it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like Ferrari red. You're it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Ferrai red. It would really match a match of
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  Speaker 1: Ferrari really well it would you know? So, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: bought this thing and I bought it on eBay. How
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  Speaker 1: did that go? Listen? Like the eBay side is is
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  Speaker 1: what it is. They're just the facilitator. But I will
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  Speaker 1: just say that the guy didn't clean the two inches
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  Speaker 1: of dog hair out of the cup holders. And I
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  Speaker 1: drove it like two miles to the little country gas
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  Speaker 1: station by my house, sputtering to get into the thing.
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  Speaker 1: All eight control arms gone, all aftermarket stuff, all track
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  Speaker 1: bars gone, and how many miles do you think we're
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  Speaker 1: on that suspension that? I don't know. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was like Skyjacker or some of the whatever the something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Terrible, terrible. I mean literally, like the parts
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  Speaker 1: were the cars from two thousand and six, So like
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  Speaker 1: let's just say that they were put on in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and six. They were falling apart. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: truck only has ninety thousand miles on it. That's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of miles. That's not a lot of miles.
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  Speaker 1: The OE stuff wouldn't have even been in No, in
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  Speaker 1: that ship actually there was. There were two stock upper
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  Speaker 1: control arms. So I came back in the back, which
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  Speaker 1: are the ones you actually want to replace because of
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  Speaker 1: pinion n angles. So sure. So the experience of buying
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  Speaker 1: it sight unseen at night, Yeah, it was what it
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  Speaker 1: was like. I got a pretty good deal on it.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, you did get a fair deal on it.
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  Speaker 1: I got a pretty big deal on it for it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, any of the stuff that was on there,
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  Speaker 1: I just had to replace. Now, that top was kind
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  Speaker 1: of rare. That was the reason why we bought it.
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  Speaker 1: So it had it had a paint matched Safari top
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  Speaker 1: on it, the company that makes them want to say
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  Speaker 1: it's great tops. It was kind of a I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it was their project vehicle or it was
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  Speaker 1: like a family member's truck that they used as a
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  Speaker 1: show display vehicle. So the entire jeep was repainted when
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  Speaker 1: the top went on. And the cool thing with that
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  Speaker 1: is that it matches perfectly nice. That's really nice. Everything's
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  Speaker 1: incape on it. It's just that there were really subpar
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  Speaker 1: parts put on it. And I think, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: just verifies what I've been saying for a really long
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  Speaker 1: time is by once cry once like I'm gonna you know,
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  Speaker 1: we put Terraflex control arms and stuff on there, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that that stuff will will last a long
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  Speaker 1: time and it's serviceable instead of being able to replace
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  Speaker 1: a bushy and I had to throw away eight control arms.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you probably saved yourself like a big mac
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  Speaker 1: by going with some you know, crappy jeep lift. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what's the what's the long term here? That's actually the thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to do with this with
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  Speaker 1: this LJ. So I'm trying to build a classy jeep.
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  Speaker 1: And it is to me the TJ LJ shares way
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  Speaker 1: more in common with a World War two jeep than
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  Speaker 1: it does. Mind being a two thousand and six then
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  Speaker 1: a two thousand and seven JK, there's there's not much
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  Speaker 1: really in common with them on the JK side, But
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  Speaker 1: this still has a tub, it still has the straight six,
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  Speaker 1: It's still it's a jeep yep. Right, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that the jks and jails and stuff. I mean they're
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  Speaker 1: immensely better vehicles. Yeah, they were revolutionary as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: the TJ being evolutionary from the YJ ANDJ. And the
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  Speaker 1: plan is to just kind of have like this modern
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  Speaker 1: classic project that you know, we can well one it
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  Speaker 1: provides some perspective for me as to how crazy these
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  Speaker 1: cars have gotten. Yeah, you know, one of my dream
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  Speaker 1: cars when I was in high school was was an
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  Speaker 1: LJ that was like the cool that was the cool car,
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  Speaker 1: that was the cool jeep. It was, it still is
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  Speaker 1: the cool jeep. I'd like to have one that's just
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  Speaker 1: not ruined. Unfortunately, you can't just send it to AV anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get the fender flares and the high line stuff,
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  Speaker 1: which is if anybody is listening that has a set
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  Speaker 1: of highline fenders, I will I will give you whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want exactly my phone. Yeah. No, So the idea is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna do some classic looking bumpers. We're
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  Speaker 1: not really going to turn it into a rock crawler
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  Speaker 1: because Gladiator is probably better in most things, but this
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  Speaker 1: will also easily do the Rubicon. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So it's got those dand of forty four's
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  Speaker 1: and you put on some fifteen fifty two wheels, which
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  Speaker 1: look great. Wheels great, yeah, yeah. So you know what
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  Speaker 1: we're doing with it is that the theme is modern
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  Speaker 1: classic and with this Safari top, I think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a real, really fascinating project. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about it on exhibition portal. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about it as a company project
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  Speaker 1: through through Adventure imports on our social so that'll start
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  Speaker 1: kind of launching here soon. We're trying to do it
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  Speaker 1: back to basics vehicle. We're not trying to make an
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  Speaker 1: old truck new. You know the amount of work that
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  Speaker 1: you have to do to put thirty fives on a
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  Speaker 1: TJ or an LJ is I mean you are? You
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  Speaker 1: are cutting everything off, yeah, and welding on rock Crawler
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  Speaker 1: three link whatever you know, suspension, which is just not
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  Speaker 1: something that we're interested in doing. I could buy a
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  Speaker 1: stock JL rubicon for less money and have more capability
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  Speaker 1: right right off the bat. I know some people will
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  Speaker 1: argue with that, but come at me, bro with your
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  Speaker 1: I PA, with your I p A. Yeah, so it'll
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  Speaker 1: be it'll be fun, you know. Dakar, our rescue greyhound,
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  Speaker 1: loves it. We got perfect bed. We took the back
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  Speaker 1: car transport well with the Safari top he can like
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  Speaker 1: launch himself into because he's a very big dog. You
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  Speaker 1: can launch himself into the back and he doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: hit anything. Yeah. Then he has this bed that's half
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  Speaker 1: the size of Texas in the back and he has
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  Speaker 1: like this little little window on the Safari top that
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  Speaker 1: he like sticks his nose out and like it's so perfect.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's. Uh. I was looking at CJ's,
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at FJA forty's, I was looking at
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  Speaker 1: Series land Rovers, I was looking at Defenders. I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted a Defender ninety, but I just like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a big investment. Yeah, and I just if I do
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  Speaker 1: want to use it, I just I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: trust those vehicles really at all the stuff that you
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  Speaker 1: can get, you're either getting a questionable import at this point, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or you're getting, like, you know, something that somebody has
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  Speaker 1: touched in an effort to make a bunch of money
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  Speaker 1: on and flip it. And you know they put quilted
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  Speaker 1: northern seats everywhere, like with like the cross stitching because
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  Speaker 1: apparently that just makes an agricultural tractor luxury vehicle. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that that whole the whole Defender thing just got really annoying.
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  Speaker 1: So we uh kind of are just going to do
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  Speaker 1: our own thing. It's perfect. It's a classic car that
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  Speaker 1: just happens to have been built in two thousand and six. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's perfect. It's one of those things that you know,
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  Speaker 1: it kept going whether or not the TJ in hindsight
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  Speaker 1: should have run as long as it did, knowing how
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  Speaker 1: much of an evolution the JK was. It's just it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fun jeep to drive round. It's fun. It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it should be. We're not gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do any kind of crazy lifts or anything that. The
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  Speaker 1: plan is to build a simple vehicle that is attainable
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  Speaker 1: for most people, most you know what we're doing to Granted,
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  Speaker 1: this LJ applies to stuff that people can do in
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  Speaker 1: a you know, in a YJ or a TJ or anything.
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  Speaker 1: The idea is that you don't need, you know, every widget,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need massive tires, you don't need crazy suspension
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  Speaker 1: on the TJ's. I remember, the only new car I
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  Speaker 1: ever bought up until recently was a two thousand TJ,
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  Speaker 1: so I had it. I had a two thousand TJ
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  Speaker 1: Sahara that I bought when I was still working in manufacturing.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first time I've ever bought a new car. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I bought it down in Phoenix. I mean it was
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  Speaker 1: like I felt like I like won the personal lottery
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  Speaker 1: that I just finally got to that point in my
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  Speaker 1: life I could afford a car payment like that, and
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  Speaker 1: that I could afford to have a new vehicle. And
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  Speaker 1: I had this venture Craft trailer that was this little
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  Speaker 1: pop top trailer and it was also white, and I
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  Speaker 1: put matching Sahara fenders on it. And I did very
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  Speaker 1: little to that vehicle. I did an ARB front bumper
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  Speaker 1: to it and a Warren winch and I installed a
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  Speaker 1: two inch Terraflex suspension system on it with the lower
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  Speaker 1: control arms so I could adjust for the death wobble
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yep, And that was it. I
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  Speaker 1: eventually put some steel TJ wheels on it with thirty
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  Speaker 1: three by ten fifty tires on it eventually, but I
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  Speaker 1: ran the stock one stock tires for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: The thing I didn't like about it was the three
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  Speaker 1: speed automatic. That was terrible, and as so is yours
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  Speaker 1: worse speed. But it's electronically controlled, Okay, so that's a
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  Speaker 1: big advantage. The three speed was really the same trends
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  Speaker 1: that carried over into the JK. Okay, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's great. Yeah, I'm just saying that it's better
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  Speaker 1: than way better than a three speed, And yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the three speed was rough, but it was such a
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  Speaker 1: fun vehicle and I drove it all over Arizona. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it was so capable right out of the box.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's just incredible how how capable a stock
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  Speaker 1: wrangler is, even of that era. A mutual friend of ours,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Deerman, around the same time when I started to
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  Speaker 1: meet all these guys on the various forums, when before
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  Speaker 1: everything was even called overlanding. This was back in the
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  Speaker 1: full drive Trips forum days. And uh and Brian Deerman,
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  Speaker 1: who's been a longtime member of the community, goes to
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  Speaker 1: the Overland expos well traveled. He had he bought a
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  Speaker 1: maybe what was the first year of the Rubicon TJ
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Okay, so he bought the first
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  Speaker 1: year of the Rubicon and he because he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: not affect the warranty, he drove that thing everywhere stock like, well,
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  Speaker 1: they had bone stock there. The form factor of them
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  Speaker 1: is what really gives them the capability there. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: pretty small vehicles. You know, the axe stick out much
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  Speaker 1: farther than entires, stick out much further than the body.
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  Speaker 1: You know, amazing approach, amazing departure, you know, amazing ish
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  Speaker 1: breakover because they had that the transmission skid plate or
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: transfer case skid plate like hangs way down it does. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're fascinating, but it was cool just to I remember
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  Speaker 1: this was early in like my more four wheeling centric days,
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  Speaker 1: and Ryan went He did all the trips that we did,
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff we did down to Mexico. He also
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  Speaker 1: did all of the really hard trails that we did
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona. And then in I think maybe around two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and four, I did my first trip across the
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  Speaker 1: Rubicon and I had a YJ at that point that
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  Speaker 1: I had done like the full ARB kit too. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason why I did that is when I was
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  Speaker 1: in the Air Force, I went on this club run
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  Speaker 1: one time in Idaho and there was this couple that
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  Speaker 1: showed up with a like a brand new YJ that
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  Speaker 1: the ARB catalog had been thrown at and it had
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  Speaker 1: like thirty three nine fifties old man EMU air lockers
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  Speaker 1: front and rear. It was so clean, and I just
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  Speaker 1: remember just being wide eyed, like this is the coolest
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  Speaker 1: jeep I've ever seen. And of course it did everything
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  Speaker 1: on the club run easily because it was dual locked,
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  Speaker 1: and most of us could maybe a four to locker
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  Speaker 1: for the rear or whatever. So I always wanted to
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  Speaker 1: build a YJ like that, and I did. I ended
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  Speaker 1: up building a really nice YJA. It was the first
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  Speaker 1: vehicle I drove across the Rubicon. But the guy that
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  Speaker 1: came along, and his name escapes me right now, but
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  Speaker 1: he also had a stock two thousand and three two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and four Rubicon TJ unmodified and we went through
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  Speaker 1: the whole Rubicon together and zero Neither of us had
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  Speaker 1: any issues. I think I bent my exhaust a little bit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just remember being terrified as I first went into
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  Speaker 1: the Gatekeeper, back when there was a gate keeper on
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  Speaker 1: the Rubicon, and there was these huge rock crawlers all
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  Speaker 1: around getting welded and grinders are going and I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 1: what have I done? I'm never going to And of
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: course it was no big deal if you just drive
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  Speaker 1: on the main trail and not drive like an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was such a fun experience and it
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  Speaker 1: shows just how capable these very stock or near stock
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  Speaker 1: vehicles really are. Yeah. I mean, I think the process
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  Speaker 1: that we've had with ours starting to build it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we have some longer term, really fun plans with the car,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of, like I was saying initially that it
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  Speaker 1: showed up in a lot worse shape than we thought
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  Speaker 1: it was, so we kind of had to do a
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  Speaker 1: laterally fix the stuff so we could actually drive it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a nice thing to be able to go back
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  Speaker 1: to the TJLJ because it makes you realize how much
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  Speaker 1: Jeep has actually listened to their customer. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: if you walked into the Jeep world in JK or
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  Speaker 1: even JL you're like, oh, these things are just amazing,
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  Speaker 1: Like thirty sevens, Yeah, cool, whatever. Well, if I want
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  Speaker 1: to put thirty sevens on my LJ, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to do it right, it's a huge endeavor. It's a process.
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  Speaker 1: Like I mean, you're talking axles, you're talking I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's highline vendors all that. It's a big deal. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that we kind of get it's a little
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  Speaker 1: too comfortable with how easy these vehicles are to modify,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: because clearly somebody's kind of been listening, Like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that I can do a basic two inch lift. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm talking I do springs, and I do shocks
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  Speaker 1: and like some swaybar extensions, a factory mopar lift on
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  Speaker 1: a JL or a Gladiator. If it's thirty seven inch tires, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would have to. I would have to cut everything
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  Speaker 1: basically down to a bare frame if I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do it right to do thirty seven's on that car.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why when you're on the Rubicon so much
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  Speaker 1: stuff was breaking is because Billy Bob decided to weld
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  Speaker 1: this on there and the other thing. We never mind
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  Speaker 1: with that. But the thing that we've realized, it's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to get good quality, cheap stuff. Right. We bought
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  Speaker 1: a lot of products for us initially that we just
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: ended up sending back because we're like, you sell this
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to people? Yeah, you know, And why do you think
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that is? I don't know the amount of junk suspension
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: stuff that is out there for the TJ, the amount
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of junk bumpers. I don't know if people these vehicles
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: as being disposable, yeah, or maybe it's just a so
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: it looks a certain way. Maybe yeah, maybe it's not.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: They're not functional accessories. The stuff that is very functional
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: has a just a drastically different esthetic than what I'm
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: looking for, you know, I want to be able to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I always say in an overland truck, I want to
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: be able to hit a deer and I want to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: be able to not be stranded. Well, when you cut
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the fenders off and you're running a hood and a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: bumper that's two inches wider than your frame, rails like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: that's the style, yeah, for tjs and ljs and everything
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: right now is to turn it into this rockcroller. Yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: even though I mean, I guess if you're looking for
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: a body and a frame, sure, I mean you're replacing
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: everything else, So I think they can work. And that's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: maybe the joy of the jeep is that you can
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: buy a stock one, take the top off, and just
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: have an awesome daily driver. You can also take a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: JK or a JL slap forties on it with some
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: axle upgrades, and that works too as a rock crawler.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And then you can also easily travel with them. And
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: part of what inspired us to want to talk about
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the TJ and the TJ long willbase is the fact
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: that people like Dan Grek the Pan American and yeah,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: when he drove the Pan American Highway, he took a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: soft top stalker TJ and did the entire length of
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it and had a great time. And I think one
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of the things that's most endearing about his story is
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that he had dreadlocks and this guy just wanted to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: go travel to Ushuaia and he's like, I'm going to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: take my jeep and he didn't even think about what
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: stuff do I have to put on it? Or how
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: do I need to modify this vehicle? He literally with
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a soft top, like the things that we would never
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: recommend people do, he did with ease, and like he
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: didn't get his jeep stolen. And you think about a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: soft top, like, oh, you're going to get well, so
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: here's whatever is you know. Yeah, the idea of driving
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: a TJ to Uya sounds crazy, but the idea of
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: driving a BJ seventy with order of the horsepower and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: worse suspension suddenly sounds great or FJ forty sounds or romantic, right,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you know? This is to me the TJ is that
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: if we think, if we were to fast forward ten
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, think how archaic that vehicle is going to be.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's a steel tub. Yeah, you know, there's not much
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: going on with it. There's really no does it have abs?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Some of them did later? I think it does. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: think mine would because that's an six. But you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: maybe they have a ABS like bedlining the inside is
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a upgrade. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that's what makes them.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think a unique consideration is that they're not that
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: expensive when you compare it to most jeeps. Jeeps will
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: always be expensive for their time because they're timeless, right,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: so they'll always be valuable, which is another thing that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think makes them an advantage. So you do something
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like Dan Grek did, where you drive this TJ all
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the way down, I bet you can bring that thing
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: back and sell it essentially what you bought it for. Well,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and the parts are so cheap. I want to say
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I've said before like that the XJ is a great,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a great vehicle to travel in, because but an XJ
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and a TJR functionally the same thing for most of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: their drive line componentry, and things like after going through
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the eighty series thing of seventeen hundred dollars factory alternator
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for that car, parts are just insanely expensive. Now, now
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that's Toyota stuff and the quality of early nineties Toyota
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: versus mid two thousands Chrysler. The Toyota stuff is still
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: better full shop. You're looking at fifteen dollars high right ends.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's your point is that you can you
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: can take that cheap to whoever you want. Any mechanic
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: can work on that. If a mechanic can't work on
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a TJ, they shouldn't be a mechanic. Run. Yeah, exactly, run.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And I wonder, I wonder how prolific they were down
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in South America. I know that they got them in Argentina,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: but I don't know much about where else they were
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: in South America. But they don't really have that I mean,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like I had a ninety nine Tea J that was
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the terrible one, you know, when when I first worked
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: here in but that was I remember even then, like
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you you had a love for that car because it
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was like your first world drive. And I just like,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: there's something about TJ's to me that are just simple, yea,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think that a TJ is trying to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: be anything. Like you don't see TJ's with the angry
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: grills that people put on their cars. You don't see
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: very many frowning grills on TJ like like very frumpy looking,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you do see some horrible like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that was like the era of shitty built right, like
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: terrible like products that were knocked off by company A,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: then knocked off by company B, then knocked off by
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: company C, and they just maybe Burt comes along and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know, knocks off the fourth knockoff of the roof
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Remember that like roof rack that I bought, not knowing
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: any different than you, Like it was just like a wobble. Yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: like you could you know, it could have been made
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of straw. Yeah. You couldn't put anything up there safely. Nothing, nothing.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: There's again, there's just there's so many bad parts for
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: these things. And I think what I'm you know, one
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why I'm I'm doing this project is
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I think that some of these things need to be saved. Yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: they can't all be cut up into buggies. Yeah, just
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: just buy UTV at that point, Like, I don't know
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: why you're spending forty thousand dollars on you know, generate suspension,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: even though it's awesome. Yeah, when you can get like
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: twenty eight inches of travel, a lot of a can
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: m Yeah, but I think that's what's happening. I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of that is happening. Yeah, which is good.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: That way people can they can do their UTV thing
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and do their day trips. I mean, you know, I'm
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I'm in a weird environment. I'm I recognize that I'm
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that I'm super fortunate to have the things that I have.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I work fourteen hours a day so I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: can have them. But and I take a lot of risk.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But to have the earth Roamer and the Gladiator. You know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I've always had a lot of redundancy, whether that's because
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of business needs or my vehicle add at the time.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But I'm excited to go to moeb in this thing,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: throw my swag in the back with my dog and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: like you're cooler and just like kind of go back
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to basics. I'm excited to take it down to Baja. Yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you know, just run it down the beach in San
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Felipe or or whatever. You know. It's maybe not something
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that I want to live out of for an extended
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: period of time, but it's just fun. It's it's it's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: like a four wheel motorcycle. It's a dirt Harley. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: mean that's kind of what Jk's or sorry, what what
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: TJ's are. It seems in Prescott, at least there's so
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: many impressed. I mean, there's so many jeeps in Prescott,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's crazy there are, but certainly the most popular vehicle
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that I see around town. I think the problem with
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the TJ is like, how do you build it? Which
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: direction to you? Do you go with it? Because these
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: older vehicles, as parts become scarce, the prices go up,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and then you have to start maintaining vehicles and replacing
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: things while you're in there, and there's no more aev
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: suspension for TJ. I don't know, Dave, Dave, are you listening, Dave? Dave? Yeah?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: How about a limited run of the high line vendors? Dave? So,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: what what is the go to suspension options? Right now?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Let's say you want to go with an inch and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a half to two inches of lift? What do you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: typically look at? What are the couple high point? Well,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: an inch and a half. So this is the thing.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: An inch and a half or two inches of lift
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: gets you a thirty one inch tire on that car, right,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Like the Rubicon came with thirties stock, they were like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: thirty point fives, they were thirty by nine fifties. Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: basically two forty five sixty five sixteens something like that. Yeah,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so we've decided to run like a two eighty five
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: seventy five sixteen, which is just under a thirty three
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: inch tire, and we need four inches of lift to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: do that, which just like like blows my mind because
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you can put that on anything like the Gladiator comes
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: with that stock now stock. Yeah, so, as far as
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't really know, there's so many options that are
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: out there. Now, what did you go with yours? We did.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: We're working right now with what was on the jeep.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: As far as the springs, we had to do JKS
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: track bars because of how the frame side was previously
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: drilled out for a HIM joint. Other than that, we're
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: going to pretty much stick to Terraflex on everything. They
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: still seem to support that vehicle very much. So, yeah,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you know where a lot of other companies have just
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: moved on, which maybe that's why there's so much crap
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: out for these is there's just I don't know if
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: there's on a market for it or what. But yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we did, we did the Terraflex arms. And what do
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: they have for bushings? They have a rubber bushing in
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: one end and then kind of a Johnny joint style.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: On the other it's really really hard to get away
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: from any kind of performance joint or substance for noise, right. Yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and literally the best that we could find was was
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: an arm that had it just on one which then
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: still attenuates some of that and then it does give
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: us the flex. You know. Again, like going back to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: how much work these things take to get mediocre performance
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: out of them by modern standards, there's a lot that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you have to do. You know. The kit that I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: would like to do is this ter reflex long arm
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Orange kit, because right now the angles on my control
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: arms are It's probably why the other ones failed so miserably. Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you think every impact, every impact is just it's not
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: letting the suspension go upwards and travel through a normal range.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of that energy is just going right into
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the joints, exactly exactly. I think a long arm makes
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. There's also these these mid arm
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: kits that gen Wright and Savvy do. Those are definitely
• 25:37
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• 25:40
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• 25:42
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• 25:45
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• 25:51
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• 25:54
  Speaker 1: The destiny of the TJ was set in ninety seven
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: because that was the big thing, to be a rock crawler. Yeah,
• 26:01
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• 26:04
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• 27:10
  Speaker 1: There's no empirical reason to choose an LJ yeah, or
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a TJ for overland travel over anything made after it,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: except for there's a file. There's a funk. Yeah, there's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a funk factor that I think is really charming. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: love it. I mean, I've seen some really nice, clean
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: long wheelbase TJ's out there. You know, you look at
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like a white long wheelbase with a little bit of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a lift, or an original Rubicon Yeah, with the with
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the kind of classic like the tan hard top. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: think they look great. Put an airb bumper on the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: front of it. Well, that's what we're doing, is we're
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: we're just we're trying to make it just a classic
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: looking vehicle. Whenever you get a new car, you're like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: what can I do to it? Since this is basically
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a buggy by modern standards. The two thousand and three
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight ramuck Hemi powertrain slides in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: real nice. So is that version two point I don't know, man,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I like, I know that I shouldn't and it's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: horrible idea, but there's just something about having like a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: four hundred horsepower little tiny jeep to run around town.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: That just like although like we we you know, we've
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: started to do some trail runs and stuff now with
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it that it's uh, it's it's not going to just
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: evaporate into a million pieces of four wheel parts crap,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you know, so it still rides like junk. You know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's like you kind of get spoiled. Yeah, Like you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: get into the Gladiator and you have proper control, arm geometry,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you have thirty seven fixed so much, you have kings
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like they it's so much better. And then you like
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: go into the parking lot at your trailhead and you're like, exactly,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it's like you have you have to air down just
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to hear yourself think yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'd like
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to do stupid things that would be a fun one though.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I me mean, I would love to just have this
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: ridiculous resto mode TJ. Like I'm gonna get excited here,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Like if I could put like I want to say
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that the six to one SRT engine is what is
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: most appropriate for that vehicle. You can do the three
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: ninety two six' four and all that, again but slower next.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Time the six point one leader SRT HEMI v Eight
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that would be so, Insane, like how do you not
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: die when you put that in? THERE i, mean you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: can put a hell cat in there if you, Really but,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: again how do you not die with you, know nineteen
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: sixties suspension technology and seven hundred? Horsepower how do you not?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Die very, CAREFUL i, GUESS i mean it really is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixties suspension. Technology like, honestly anything that jeep put
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: on that car in the suspension department you pretty much
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: have to. Replace, Yeah like they just had a different
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: purpose back. Then they really. DID i, mean the the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if you look at the THE, yj and definitely THE
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: tj was an evolution in the positive. Way but these
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: were light duty. Vehicles these were meant to be used
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for the day you put a couple sleeping bags in the.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Back maybe they. Were they weren't really good with a hard,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: top they were better with a soft. Top they were
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: really just meant to be these light duty. Recreations they
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: were THEIR utv of their, day and they just really
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: aren't meant to be overpowered or overdriven or. Overtired they're
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: really not intended for. That so that's the that's the, thing,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: right as you can recognize the vehicle for what it
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is and that's that's the smart, choice or you can
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: put a hemy in. It, yeah AND i have to,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: say like it doesn't ride. BAD I i really think if,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Well mike mcmad's brute is sitting over, here And i'm just, Like,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: mike if you don't pick that thing, Up i'm gonna
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: start stealing parts from. It because he's got all that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: aav n degree, suspension LIKE i, know it's all, there
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: like when you lift A tj or AN lj like three.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Inches the spring is that like it's it's like an.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Arc it's like it's like a thirty degree. RADIUS i
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's. Weird so you have to like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: cut that off and like relocate it so like the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: center of the hoop of the axle. Hoop i'm calling
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it a. HOOP i don't know Why i'm calling it a.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Hoop he's got the little widget that does that from,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: me and he's got the like the control arm relocation
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: brackets which move them DOWN i want to, say like
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: three or four, inches so they're like everything. Stock you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: can't get that stuff, anymore, no you, can't you, know
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: which is fascinating to, me AND i think that that's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: because they need. It, yeah for, me IF i was
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: going to focus on The PINNACLE, tj it really is
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the brute that's part next door here at the. Office,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: yeah But dak doesn't fit in, it that's. True but for,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: me For Scott eversion to have the truck that dog,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: sits consider the. Console that's. True that's so. True it's
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: still dangerous because of the. Dog one hundred, percent way
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: more likely to get fight by that hiuaha than my.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Greyhound yeah for. Sure but if you love That, chihuahua we,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: do absolutely no. Question but if you take like highline,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: vender the low profile, hood the little, cab so then
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: all THE hvac works great because it's only trying to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: cool or heat like five score feet and then you've
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: got a six foot bed on the. Back for, me, like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean. It WHEN i first got that truck
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: here And mike SAYING i Think i'm going to sell,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: IT i thought, very very seriously about. It it's got
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: The cummins three liter turbo diesel in. It, yeah five,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: speed heavy duty manual transmission real. Good, yeah but air.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Locker but What i'll tell you is even that jeep
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: probably needs twenty thousand dollars in stuff to make it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: function as you think it. Should, yeah maybe they're just
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: never ending money. Pits yeah. MAYBE i think the only
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the only THING i think about on That jeep at
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: all would be when they tuned, it they didn't get
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the full rpm, Range like that engine is designed to
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: operate up to thirty two hundred our and it only
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it like red lines or the rev limiter comes in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: at about twenty eight to. Fifty so it just really
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: affects the usability of the of the. Powertrain if that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: had A v eight in, It i'd be over on.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It i'd be about. It you'd be all about. It
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: i'd be about. IT i MEAN i liked the LITTLE
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: i like the little. Diesel you, know we just did
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a bunch of work on it to get it, sorted
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: so maybe it'll be available for. SALE i think it's really.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Cool and that color with that rack on, there it's.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Beautiful it's the ONLY aev built root. DIESEL i mean it's.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Perfect it is perfect and in its own imperfect. Way.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean ljs are just and TJ's they're all
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just very, imperfect. Right it just becomes so much labor
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and so much. Time, yeah they're also not, new you,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean there are these are older. Vehicles these
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: are these are getting up in age that you've really
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: got to start paying attention to. THEM i THINK i
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: think IF i was to, drop IF i was to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: side to drop big money on, mine it would probably
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: be Some dina track axles and A. Va and when
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you're doing those, axles you then do your long arm
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: or mid, Arm Like I'm i'm really keen on this
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: savvy mid. Arm it actually welds onto the frame which
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: allows you to kind of like tuck up the transfer. Case,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: sure a bit more like the. TERRORFLEX i. DON'T i
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: don't really. KNOW i, MEAN i think this is A
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: i THINK i would love FOR i know that there's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: people that know way more about TJ's and ljs THAN i.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Do what?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Works reach? Out, Yeah matt? Please or On? Instagram please
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: do reach out On instagram because it occasionally annoys me
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and Then i'm, Like i'm not giving you my time
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: for Free. FACEBOOK i just recently had more data for You.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: FACEBOOK i just had to do some business things On
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: facebook and they've gone The microsoft. Route is, there like
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: instead of having like that kind of Visionary Steve jobs,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: thing which is, like, no this is the way to do.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It this is how you're going to do. It they're
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: trying to accommodate like everyone and, everything and now it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: impossible to be possible to do. Anything like you're trying
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to run an add on adventure imports for we got
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch of max tracks extremes and that was a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: good ad right. There, no but so we're like trying To,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: oh this is a nice, tangent but we're trying to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: like run an ad we can't even get we can't
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: even figure this out because this account isn't talking to this,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: account we don't have this installed, on and we're, like
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: why make it so difficult to take my? Money? YEAH i,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like JUST i just want to press a? Button, yeah, Button,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah and that's exactly What Steve jobs would. Do he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: would you would have a post that you would create
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and there would be a button on the bottom that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you would push to say promote. This they kind of have,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that and then it would then they kind of lie
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to you because then it doesn't then it takes you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to six other. Screens, yeah, Yeah like AND i THEN
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: i just get frustrated And i'm, like we're just going
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to sell these things, Anyways like why AM i wasting my? Money,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: yeah it's. Annoying, yeah what were we talking about BEFORE
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: i started ranting about. That that's the thing about social. Media,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: yeah it's the. Thing it's almost like A. Tj, YEAH
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: i love to hate. IT. Tj you love, it but
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: then you hate, it then you have to do all
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: this work you love, it and then it's over eighty
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: five degrees outside the ac in. Mind, also the the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Mint perfect jeep had like a dime sized hole in
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the air the. Condenser the, condenser the winch cable was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: routed underneath the track, arm track bar up front and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: then back. Up it has it has not left me
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: in good spirits with with The ebays of the.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: World.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: eBay, yeah it's Not eBay's. Fault BUT i don't. KNOW i, mean,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: like is it is it crazy to accept you, know
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: when you pay still decent money for a car that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the guy washes. It, yeah it's just there was like
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a quarter inch of mud on the. Outside LIKE i
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: don't know if the person just looked at, It LIKE
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: i think a LOT i think a lot of people
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: they don't really consider enough about how it would feel
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: if they got the same. Treatment that's good put, it you,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: know if, like how would this guy like to receive
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a truck that he just spent good money that he
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: saved and worked hard for just going to pay the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: guy asking price and. EVERYTHING i don't. Know that's Basically,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Ben that's that's life of buying used. Cars. Yeah, YEAH
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: i don't think there's much else to talk About. TJ's i,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: mean the bumper thing is interesting because you can, either
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: like you, said go super, terrible which means some kind
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of giant stinger that is socially responders irresponsible to drive
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: on the, road or people think these things are. Cool,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: WELL i mean they do have a function as a rock,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: crawler but you have an exocage or it's also triangulate Upon,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: otherwise it just means that there's more weight on the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: past your compartment and then you die if you're doing
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: buy more stinger bumpers if you are the person who
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: wants to have a stinger. Bumper, YEAH i, mean the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: stinger bumper works really well if they go way far
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: out there and or like we had them on the,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: trucks the highlights when we were Crossing antarctica because we
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: didn't want to fall into a. Crevass so they, yeah
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: bumpers like. THAT i see an awful lot of those
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in malls exactly like WHEN i go back home To,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: chicago WHICH i don't really, do but when you, do
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: but WHEN i, DO i see so many stinger, bumpers
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: like they just plague The. Midwest also, fake they're, like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it's like a. Baby, then, yeah that's. Right they're. Terrible,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: yeah it was the beginning of the end of rock
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: CR i do have advice for people that are looking
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to restore A. Lj it's, wonderful but buy a two DOOR.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Lj you just literally what you do is you TAKE
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: lj and then you swap the letters and it becomes
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: A jl and you fix all of your. Problems, NOW
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: i think they're, charming AND i think like what What
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Dan grec did driving down To ushuaia was incredibly. Charming
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: AND i think that if we keep them mostly stockish
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and where you get to go to AutoZone and you
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: get to buy the seventy dollars alternator, yep and you
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: get to buy the twenty six dollars control, arm LIKE
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: i think in my, mind It's rubicon version with like
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: an inch and a half spacer lift and one or
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: two inches taller tire and then you just drive. IT
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: i hear. THAT i hear, that or you go. BRUTE i,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: mean that would be my only. Option i'm still hoping
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that someone out, there someone on the, interwebs someone will
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: have AN av high line kit just sitting out, there
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: like maybe it's sitting on a. Shelf it, is maybe
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it's on your jeep and you want to get rid of,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: it and you want some nice flame red paint code
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: venders to put on your. Jeep, exactly that's, it and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: on that. Bombshell so THAT'S i can't talk about tjs.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Anymore we cannot talk about TJ's, anymore but they are.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Cool matt has owned. Two i've owned, one AND i
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: have so many great memories of. Mine and and, again
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: take a look At Dan grex's trip through The america's
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in his soft TOP. Tj he's a, YouTuber, now, yeah that's.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i can't hopefully he's GOT shp for. That BUT
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: i Mean i'm a, podcaster so you know we got we.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: DO i don't know which one's, worse but they're, all
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they're all some version of worse. Right, Yeah i'm just
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: selling myself over the. Internet we need to create that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: been half and overlanding overland fans If i'm a vacation.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Here SORRY i said that. Aloud but, yeah, anyway stay
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: tuned on ON i guess THE lj. Project, yeah we'll keep
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: sending up. DATES i think we're gonna be doing some
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: videos of, it hopefully For. Portal you'll see some editorial
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: for it on the front page of extras In. Portal you,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: know you'll be able to follow along on kind of
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: day to. DAY i guess on The Adventure imports social
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: media and which is just At Adventure imports practical, easy
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and then they can get a hold of you for
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the highline, kit and then you can get a hold
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: from me of me for for the highline kit that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: somebody out there has or avy. Wheels that is another
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: thing That i'm, LIKE i want to go period, correct
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like Like i'm a Pretential i'm like a pretentious snob
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of four wheel, Drive LIKE i need it to be. Perfect,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: yeah that's, Okay you're allowed to have it, perfect you,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Know i'm comfortable with. THAT i. GUESS i Guess the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: thing now is figure out where we're going to take.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: It although the next month gets very very busy with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: getting married and then going on a honeymoon to The,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: sereni which is going to be. Awesome it's going to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: be so, awesome except except for the. Wedding neither of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: us wanted a. Wedding we've learned very quickly that the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: wedding is about everybody but the people getting. Married, yeah
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: that's probably. True But soak that you're going to be, There,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Well i'm excited that you're just going, to like because
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Because laura is, awesome so of like feeding these psychogenic,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: DRUGS i will will Be we'll be In. Colorado it'll be.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Fine it's going to be totally. FINE i don't do
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: psycho holy synogenic. Drugs that was a joke and on that. Bombshell,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: yep thank you all for, listening and we will talk
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to you next. Time