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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Massie, Judge Napolitano, Alicia Reese · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Talk Station five o five. If it's about k r
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Speaker 1: C the talk station every Wednesday, it's kind of like
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Speaker 1: a Monday for me.
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Speaker 2: A vacation and that's the way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much, Rick, And it's nice to
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Speaker 1: be back, although in a weird, weird, weird way, I
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Speaker 1: really don't know what day it is kind of strange.
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Speaker 1: I can take the days off, but I certainly appreciate uh, Garaed,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker and Darren Caroll covering for me for the
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Speaker 1: last couple of days using up my vacation days before
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Speaker 1: I lose them. Joe Strekker in the user or losing
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Speaker 1: mode as well. Good to see you, Joe Strecker. I
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Speaker 1: hope you, uh well were able to handle it without me.
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Speaker 1: I know you did anyway. Uh, what is going on
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Speaker 1: on the great big world that we live in? Got
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Speaker 1: some issues regarding budgeting. Hamilon County Prosecutor may have to
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Speaker 1: cut the prosecutor's office, which is not a good thing.
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Speaker 1: To get to that most notably, we'll get to that
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Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Because Alisha Reese, I'm
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Speaker 1: excited to have Alisha Rese on the program. Seems to
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Speaker 1: be the only one that has a concern over crime
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Speaker 1: and the prosecutor's office in these budget discussions. Hamilin County
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Speaker 1: Commissioner Lisa Reese is on the program today at eight
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Speaker 1: forty five. Tail end of the show, we'll talk county
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Speaker 1: budget and the prosecutor really begging not to have the
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Speaker 1: budget cut. Why, Well, because we don't want to defund
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Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office. Enter the discussion of prioritization. Hmmm, we
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Speaker 1: have a fine that amount of money, apparently an infinite
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Speaker 1: number of asks. What is most important to the county residents.
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Speaker 1: I'll get to some details on that. Of course, this
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Speaker 1: morning preceded by Alisha Reice, will be preceded by Judgenna
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Speaker 1: Poalicano Kill them All, which is a nice topic to
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Speaker 1: talk about with Judge Enna Poaltown. Of course, Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: wanting to blow up land targets in Venezuela, well, we
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Speaker 1: all know where the judge is on that. We all
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Speaker 1: know where Senator Ran Paul is in that. I hope
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Speaker 1: you know. And of course Congressman Thomas Massey joins the
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Speaker 1: program today at eight oh five. We're talking about the
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Speaker 1: pipe bomber who has been id Erkele is the pipe
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Speaker 1: bomber US needs to get out of NATO, says Congressman Massy,
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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of feeling that way myself anymore. I
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Speaker 1: think about the European Union and how far left there
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Speaker 1: are a bunch of socialists. They're not about freedom, They're
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Speaker 1: about eradication of freedoms. Look at some of the decisions
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Speaker 1: and the prosecutions they've had in any going after people
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Speaker 1: just making utterances free speech doesn't exist. One of the
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Speaker 1: huge differences we have in terms of, you know, freedoms
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Speaker 1: and liberties and what we typically fight for as Americans
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Speaker 1: compared to the European Union NATO generally speaking, I'm not
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Speaker 1: quite sure Congressman Massi wants to get out of NATO,
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Speaker 1: but of course he's going to explain that to us.
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Speaker 1: Coming up in at oh five plus blowing up drug
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Speaker 1: smugglers topic number three with Congressman Massie as we segue
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Speaker 1: over to Judge Nittapolitano, and they're gonna be there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a vote this week on blocking or rather next
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Speaker 1: week on blocking Trump insofar as Ben as well as
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Speaker 1: concerned or maybe they'll approve it. Get to that today
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Speaker 1: as well. Preceded by Laurence Stewart subbing in for Donald
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Speaker 1: and Neil from Americans for Prosperity. Today with Laurence Stewart,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Obamacare subsidies, another topic. The Republicans have
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Speaker 1: a different strategy to go forward. The idea of extending
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Speaker 1: the Obamacare subsidies is still alive and well. Of course,
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Speaker 1: after the government shut down. The opening of the government
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Speaker 1: was coupled with an agreement by the Republicans that we
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Speaker 1: would have a voter, they would have a vote on subsidies.
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Speaker 1: While that votes fast approaching. So where is AFP on that?
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Speaker 1: Seven thirty with Laurence Stewart, Plus it's Wednesday, we get
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Speaker 1: the big picture with Jack Avidan find out together what
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Speaker 1: he means by the topic this morning, Love and Terror
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Speaker 1: five one three, seven, nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred
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Speaker 1: and eight two three taco with pound five fifty on
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Speaker 1: at and T phone. Yeah, real quick here War Powers resolution.
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Speaker 1: This has been advanced by a bunch of Democrats and
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Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul comes as no surprise to me. Would bar
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Speaker 1: us military strikes on Venezuela unless Congress authorizes them? See
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Speaker 1: your Constitution.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Trump administration officials claim this campaign is lawful
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Speaker 1: under existing counter narcotic and Narcotics Authorities laws. White House
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Speaker 1: also maintains the operations do not constitute hostilities under the
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Speaker 1: War Powers Act. I suppose the beauty in the I
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Speaker 1: the beholder on that one. I mean, I'm rather objective
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Speaker 1: on this. If we as a country are launching missiles
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Speaker 1: and blowing up targets into another country, seems to me
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Speaker 1: that as an active aggression, some might call it an
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Speaker 1: active war. I know we are free are on the
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Speaker 1: receiving end of missiles from some other country. Don't you
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Speaker 1: think we would call it an active war? We certainly did,
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Speaker 1: at least in so far as the bombing of the
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Speaker 1: the Twin Towers and other sites nine to eleven sticks
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Speaker 1: in my mind. At least it brought forth an authorization
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Speaker 1: for use of military force, a justification to go fight
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Speaker 1: terrorism literally on the four corners of the globe for
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Speaker 1: well decades. But at least you could hang your hat
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Speaker 1: on the authorization for use of military force. Is it
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Speaker 1: a good thing to go after the drug smugglers? I
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Speaker 1: think it is generally speaking. Do they represent an eminent
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Speaker 1: threat to the United States if they're fifteen hundred miles away?
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Speaker 1: This is, of course the point of discussion, complicated issue,
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Speaker 1: without question, but it's going to be brought up for
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Speaker 1: a vote. Now, where will our elected officials be on this?
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Speaker 4: Now? This was.
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Speaker 1: Addressed before. Back in November, Senator Kaine's resolution defeated in
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Speaker 1: the Senate fifty one forty nine Rand Paul Lisa Murkowski
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Speaker 1: both the only Republicans that support of it. Democrats are
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Speaker 1: of course going to need quite a few more Republicans
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Speaker 1: to come over to the vote next week, and then,
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Speaker 1: of course, if it clears the Senate, which seems like
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Speaker 1: a huge question mark, still the House needs to act.
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Speaker 1: Similar resolution was previously voted in the lower chamber by
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Speaker 1: Democratic Representatives Jaquen Castro and Jim mcgovernor Massachusetts, along with
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Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey. So Trump indicated he would oppose any
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Speaker 1: limits to his ability to confront narcotics traffick arders over seas.
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Speaker 1: And of course, so if that goes through, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what position is Donald Trump is going to be
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Speaker 1: in so far as vetoing or well, they'd have to
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Speaker 1: give him approval. If it fails, then there's nothing to veto,
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Speaker 1: is there. Then it becomes a question of what authority
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has continuing without an authorization for you, some
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Speaker 1: military force or a declaration of war would just means
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Speaker 1: sort of like status quo. Right, are we running headlong
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Speaker 1: into a war with Venezuela? So those are we'll be
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Speaker 1: diving on in deep with those with Massy and Judge
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Speaker 1: Jenna Politano as well. So let us move a forward.
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Speaker 1: Let's see here. Oh yeah, considering Alisha Reese is going
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Speaker 1: to be on the program, and thank you Alicia in
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Speaker 1: advance for doing that. Hamilton County Prosecutor is a little
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Speaker 1: bit concerned they're facing a potential cuts of staff, which
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Speaker 1: Hamilon County Prosecutor Connie Pilach is a little concernment it'll
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Speaker 1: make residents less safe. She asked the three Democratic commissioners
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Speaker 1: at the meeting yesterday to reconsider the cuts in the
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Speaker 1: recommended county budget, which she claims will force the office
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Speaker 1: to cut ten percent of the staff for eighteen positions.
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Speaker 1: Alisha Reese sayce the first time she's ever seen a
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Speaker 1: prosecutor come in personally to deal with this. In a
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Speaker 1: presentation regarding the budget, Connie Pillage did the majority of
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Speaker 1: her staff positions are assistant prosecutors, and to cut nearly
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Speaker 1: ten percent of them would, in her words, be catastrophic
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Speaker 1: for the mission of this office and public safety for
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Speaker 1: of our county. She said they're dealing with more cases
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Speaker 1: to Grand Jerry's larger number of indictments in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: five compared to twenty twenty four. Ask yourself why that
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Speaker 1: might be. City manager says everything, says, everything is glowing.
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Speaker 1: What an awesome job I've done, City manager or released
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Speaker 1: her report over an assessment while they struggle also with
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Speaker 1: a thirty two point one million dollar fiscal deficit for
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Speaker 1: the next calendar year. That's the city budget, independent of
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Speaker 1: the county budget, so they've got more crime to deal with,
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Speaker 1: more complex cases. She Connie Pillage actually asked to add
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Speaker 1: ten full time employees, three for the Conviction Integrity Unit,
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Speaker 1: three felony assistant prosecutors, a data analyst, and a juvenile
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Speaker 1: court assistant prosecutor, as well as two victim advocates, saying,
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Speaker 1: our budget request is tightly focused on improving public safety.
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Speaker 1: I can't do anything if I have to cut nearly
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Speaker 1: ten percent of my staff. Because we do that, we
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Speaker 1: can't handle the caseload that we have now, and that
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Speaker 1: appears to be increasing. Why might it be increasing? Are
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Speaker 1: there more crimes being committed? Some say no, others porting
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Speaker 1: to the fact that, yeah, actually crime has increased. Are
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Speaker 1: is Connie Pillars taking your job seriously? Apparently so? Maybe
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Speaker 1: since a police department has decided the job is worth
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Speaker 1: doing and arresting people and setting them over to the
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Speaker 1: prosecutor's office is actually a good thing in order to
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Speaker 1: reduce violence in the city. You know that deterrence leg
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Speaker 1: of the criminal justice system we talk about all the time.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're stepping up. Anyway, number of cases the prosecutor's
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Speaker 1: office has to deal with is on the increase. And
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Speaker 1: I take Connie Pillach at her word on that. Do
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Speaker 1: you know how difficult it is to prosecute one of
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Speaker 1: these things? And here's a couple of components on this.
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Speaker 1: It is very difficult. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is
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Speaker 1: the highest legal standard. It's you know, it's not fifty percent,
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Speaker 1: it's not seventy five percent, it's like ninety five percent
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Speaker 1: in your mind, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That takes evidence.
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Speaker 1: It takes a lot of hard work on behalf of
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Speaker 1: the prosecutors and their staff putting on a together, they've
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Speaker 1: got to go to court.
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Speaker 4: And prove it.
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Speaker 1: Or or here's my concern. With an overwhelming case load
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Speaker 1: and a reduction in budget and perhaps having to get
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Speaker 1: rid of ten percent of the Hamilton County Prosecutor's staff,
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Speaker 1: they won't prosecute them they aren't capable of it. Or
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Speaker 1: I think what ultimately that will lead.
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Speaker 4: To is.
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Speaker 1: Right, what are you thinking, guilty? Please negotiated settlements reduced
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Speaker 1: well exposure to the crime, settling them out of court
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Speaker 1: because they don't have the resources to go ahead with
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Speaker 1: the full prosecution. Yeah, that is what I see happening,
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Speaker 1: which means, you know, a lot of bad people will
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Speaker 1: not be going to jail. It's just not within their
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Speaker 1: ability to take these cases to trial. So we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Re said she wanted to consider the county's priorities after
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Speaker 1: agreeing to contribute three hundred and fifty million dollars for
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Speaker 1: paid course stadium at lease with the Bengals. This is
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Speaker 1: why I think I like Alisha Reves more than the
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Speaker 1: other prosecutors. At least she acknowledged this. What's more important
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Speaker 1: the Bengals stadium upgrades or well making sure we lock
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Speaker 1: up bad guys in Hamilton County not giving them a
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Speaker 1: plea agreement, a soft plea agreement, because they don't know
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Speaker 1: the resources to take him to trial. You think the
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Speaker 1: word's going to get out among the defense community. Hamilton
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Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's office is short on prosecutors. They don't have
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Speaker 1: the ability to get these things the trial. I can
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Speaker 1: see that happening. Alisha rees if you could stand for
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Speaker 1: the Bengals and get a deal done, deal done, I
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Speaker 1: would hope we could stand with the prosecutor's office and
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Speaker 1: get a deal done. Gay Elisa reefs, So is this
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Speaker 1: part of the defunding reality that we're still sort of
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Speaker 1: dealing with in the background. Nobody talks about the defund
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Speaker 1: police movement. That's kind of gone by the wayside, But
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Speaker 1: those people are still alive and well. I'm sure Iris
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Speaker 1: Rollie is still not a fan of the police department.
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Speaker 1: She's always around since a city council and influencing them,
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Speaker 1: apparently with pretty significant ability. So if you defund the
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Speaker 1: prosecutor's office, it's effectively like defunding the police. Police aren't
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Speaker 1: picking them up because they've been defunded or otherwise told
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Speaker 1: not to do their job. Prosecutor's office could be as
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Speaker 1: diligent as they want to throw people in jail. But
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Speaker 1: if you have someone who's a diligent prosecutor who's interested
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Speaker 1: in being hard on the criminals and sending them away
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Speaker 1: for as long as possible, and you can't do that,
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Speaker 1: that's like another leg of the defund the police. Basically,
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Speaker 1: Who what Pat's got this morning? Pat, thanks for calling.
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 5: Happy Wednesday to you, Brian. Regarding the Hamilton County and
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Speaker 5: the cutbacks, my brother, who has lived in the Ova
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Speaker 5: Ryan area for over twenty five years and who is white,
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Speaker 5: well known down there, well known and advocates for helping
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Speaker 5: the helpless down there, he was attacked three weeks ago
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Speaker 5: by another white man. He was sucker punched and kicked
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Speaker 5: to the ground. While on the ground, he was kicked
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Speaker 5: three times in the head. Had it not been for
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Speaker 5: the black neighborhood coming at his rescue, he might not
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Speaker 5: be with us today.
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Speaker 4: Anyway. They had the.
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Speaker 5: Assailant arrested and my brother was told, you know, he'll
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Speaker 5: get a notice on the mail when this is going
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Speaker 5: to go to court. Well, yesterday I called him to
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Speaker 5: see how he was feeling, and he told me he
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Speaker 5: had called the prosecutor's office and they told him the
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Speaker 5: case was dismissed. Dismissed, no record, no nothing else that
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Speaker 5: was it dismissed.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my lord, based upon he wasn't given any specific
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Speaker 1: reason why I was dismissed.
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Speaker 5: No, sir, not one reason.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's extremely troubling. I suppose. I mean, I know
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Speaker 1: that there is a civil cause of action for someone
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Speaker 1: who beats you up. You can sue them civilly for
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Speaker 1: the damage that you suffered. But you've of course got
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Speaker 1: a lawyer up and go after him, so there's still
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Speaker 1: some legal recourse. But the mystery, obviously is why the
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Speaker 1: case was have been dismissed. I mean, I can understand
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Speaker 1: if they called up and said the guy entered a
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Speaker 1: plea agreement, he copped a plea to a lesser offense,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we gave him six month probation or
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Speaker 1: whatever that happens all the time. Much of this chagrin
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Speaker 1: of people who hadn't been beaten up otherwise criminally harmed,
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Speaker 1: but that I would demand answers on that to the
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Speaker 1: extent you can. What did he do when he found out?
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Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred percent. In fact, my
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Speaker 5: neighbor is a retired since today policeman and that was
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Speaker 5: his neighborhood. And when I text him, he says, it's typical.
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Speaker 5: He said, we put him in jail and they let
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Speaker 5: him out before.
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Speaker 4: We were back in the car.
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Speaker 1: But if you have a victim pressing charges, see you
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Speaker 1: know he may get into the complexities of the criminal
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Speaker 1: justice system that I may be unfamiliar with. But that
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Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to make any sense.
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Speaker 5: I just think it's typical of the shenanigans that's going
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Speaker 5: on down there in Hamilton County.
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Speaker 1: I think, Pat, you may have hit the nail on
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Speaker 1: the head right there. I wouldn't correct though if I would,
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Speaker 1: if I was him, I would do everything in my
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Speaker 1: power to to try to get to the bottom of that.
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Speaker 1: Just I mean, I'm sure my listeners would love to
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Speaker 1: know how that how that could happen. And you know what,
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Speaker 1: and since you mentioned it, I will applaud every single
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Speaker 1: human being who came to his rescue, came to his aid,
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Speaker 1: and we are all, I think, has some obligation to
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Speaker 1: do what we can in those circumstances and not just
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Speaker 1: stand around and take video of it with our cell
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Speaker 1: phone cameras.
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Speaker 4: Right, Pat, Yes, sir, you are correct.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 5: One of the go ahead, I'm sorry, no, go.
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Speaker 1: Ahead, right.
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Speaker 5: One of the folks did take did take videos of
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Speaker 5: the guy attacking him, and the lady brought it to
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Speaker 5: my brother's attention because he was just going to say
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Speaker 5: the heck with it. I'm not going to go after
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Speaker 5: the guy apparently standing there. He's either the guy's either
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Speaker 5: mental or he's seeking drugs.
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Speaker 1: But well, so much for the civil case there, Pat,
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Speaker 1: You know what, squeeze and blood, blood out of a
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Speaker 1: Turnip's like, it's an impossibility. So if you've got a
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Speaker 1: major drug problem guy, he is not going to have
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Speaker 1: any assets or resources to go after civilly, Well he was.
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Speaker 3: He wasn't that.
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Speaker 5: He's not the type of grafter room for money. I
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Speaker 5: wasn't a case. So get the guy off the street.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a shame.
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Speaker 4: Pat.
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Speaker 1: I feel badly for him, and I would love to
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Speaker 1: know and get an answer. Maybe, Hey, Joe, do you
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Speaker 1: think Hemlin County Prosecutor Pillots be happy to come on
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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassey Morning should talk about that one,
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Speaker 1: don't Okay, don't laugh so hard, Joe, I have twenty
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Speaker 1: city's got a budget problem. To other local stories or
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Speaker 1: twenty five a year. Then we'll be five nine after
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Speaker 1: see if you can make it one uh sadly on
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Speaker 1: local stories before he gets to Tom, who's on the phone,
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Speaker 1: five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred. I
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Speaker 1: just got a text from Westside Jim Keefer, front of
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Speaker 1: the show, friend of the community, right down the street
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Speaker 1: from him, within a quarter mile of his house. There
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Speaker 1: was a murder at the Papa John's on West eighth
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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock last night, right quarter mile away from his house,
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Speaker 1: a little too close for comfort west Side Jim, so
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Speaker 1: sorry about the neighborhood there. Maybe Connie Pilach, if budget
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Speaker 1: won't cut, won't get cut. We'll find some money. They
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Speaker 1: can bring him the justice. We'll find out. Tom, thanks
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Speaker 1: for calling man. Happy Wednesday to you, Hey, good morning.
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Speaker 6: I I hear the story of the guy that's the
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Speaker 6: last caller there, Pat, And my first question is how
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Speaker 6: many more of those stories are there? Because you know
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Speaker 6: that's not the only one, and you know stuff like that,
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Speaker 6: it's probably been going on for a long time, But
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Speaker 6: to what degree how much is it happening? And I,
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Speaker 6: you know, we don't really know the exact answer to that,
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Speaker 6: but I think it's safe to assume that this is
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Speaker 6: a growing trend. Let's get rid of these people. There's
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Speaker 6: no way, you know, what are we going to waste
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Speaker 6: our time trying to trying to prosecute you again. I
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Speaker 6: don't know the exact merit to the case or details,
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Speaker 6: but you know, based on what he said, it sounds like,
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Speaker 6: you know, they're gonna go after some guy that's drugged
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Speaker 6: up or mentally unstable or whatever. And I'm sure they
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Speaker 6: they kick a lot of those, you know, out just
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Speaker 6: to save themselves time. But yeah, you gotta you gotta
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Speaker 6: involve the uh, you got to involve the victim.
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Speaker 7: You have you have to.
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Speaker 6: I mean, we years ago, we were involved in something
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Speaker 6: and and and to the prosecutor's office credit and handle
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Speaker 6: the county. They they kept in touch with this. They
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Speaker 6: asked us our opinion, and here's where we're here's where
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Speaker 6: we're wanting to go, and and and all that. So,
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Speaker 6: you know, at the very least, talk to us, tell
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Speaker 6: us what you want to do, Explain to us the
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Speaker 6: you know, uh, it just takes a phone call or
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Speaker 6: you know, have us come in and do a conference
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Speaker 6: or whatever, and hey, here's the here's the case, here's
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Speaker 6: what's going on, here's what we think. What do you
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Speaker 6: want to what do you want to do about that?
19:51
Speaker 6: Or here's why we can't do that something at least
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Speaker 6: let us know, you give a crack. And and so
19:57
Speaker 6: when you have when you have people that run these
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Speaker 6: run these administrations or whatever that clearly don't give a
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Speaker 6: crap and they're just in there to push their agenda,
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Speaker 6: well you know, it's a very unsettling, and you're just
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Speaker 6: letting criminals out. And then of course the criminal element
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Speaker 6: hears about this, and what do you think they're gonna
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Speaker 6: do You think you're gonna Oh, you think they're gonna
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Speaker 6: be worried and scared. Of course not. Well the other thing,
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Speaker 6: Oh wow, get out of jail free. We don't even
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Speaker 6: have to worry about it.
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Speaker 1: The other component of this TOM is if they don't
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Speaker 1: prosecute and they drop the charges, I would rather them
20:29
Speaker 1: have forced the guy to at least admit to a
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Speaker 1: lesser charge, get a plea agreement, get him to have
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Speaker 1: something identified on his record, because this person has probably
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Speaker 1: been involved in the criminal justice system quite a few times,
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Speaker 1: and you can at least build up a record. Now,
20:46
Speaker 1: let's say this guy's got like fifteen priors, well there
20:49
Speaker 1: would have been sixteen. If they'd move forward, it would
20:51
Speaker 1: obviously establish a better record. So the next time he
20:53
Speaker 1: comes into court, maybe the judge will wake up and say,
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Speaker 1: we really need to deal with this person. But if
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Speaker 1: there's nothing there, then there's no record that he is
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Speaker 1: a recipt of his criminal And I don't know anything
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Speaker 1: about this particular guy. Maybe he's never been involved with
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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system ever. I don't know based upon
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Speaker 1: the call. But there's that element of it as well.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, because we've all heard enough stories of actual cases
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Speaker 6: where somebody's racked up fifteen, sixteen, twenty cases and it's like,
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Speaker 6: what are we doing here? Why are we Why are
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Speaker 6: we not letting people know that you know, you're not
21:25
Speaker 6: going to get away with that. Now you're going to
21:27
Speaker 6: be held accountable. And that's a problem. And it's more
21:29
Speaker 6: of a problem when you have Democrats running these administrations, obviously,
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Speaker 6: And just look at the cities that have the biggest
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Speaker 6: crime problems, and you know, Cincinnati is up on that list.
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Speaker 1: Number twenty five all Democrat homicide rate top US thirty
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Speaker 1: cities by homicide raid. We are number twenty five.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's and that's because we're I don't know,
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Speaker 6: our priorities are in the wrong place clearly. So obviously
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Speaker 6: the answer to this is don't vote Democrat. Have a
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Speaker 6: great day, Brian.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, You do the same. Oh that do we
22:03
Speaker 1: have time for Jay? You mean to hold Jay Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the program, Joe says, we have enough time. Could
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Speaker 1: you hear from you this morning?
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Speaker 4: Jay?
22:10
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday?
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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Brian.
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Speaker 6: Hey.
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Speaker 7: I wanted to thank Alisha Reese. It wasn't for her
22:17
Speaker 7: talking about if we can afford money for our football
22:21
Speaker 7: team for football tax, I call it, maybe we could
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Speaker 7: put a little bit into crime prevention. It wasn't that
22:27
Speaker 7: long ago, though, to be honest that I remember, I
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Speaker 7: think she was. She was counseling than Alisha Reese. She
22:33
Speaker 7: was pushing hard for we need to get up to
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Speaker 7: Columbus and get our face in the public trough because
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Speaker 7: if the Browns are going to get six hundred million
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Speaker 7: dollars in football tax, doesn't don't the Bengals deserve six hundred.
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Speaker 4: Million dollars in football tax.
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Speaker 7: So I'm glad she's coming around, and I'm glad she
22:48
Speaker 7: came around, and I just want to acknowledge that, yep,
22:52
Speaker 7: and so good for her and hopefully she can kind
22:55
Speaker 7: of hold this ground and quit trying to put more
22:57
Speaker 7: football tacks coming out of our paycheck and then real
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Speaker 7: quick this time of year, just to remind listeners, the
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Speaker 7: reason for Christmas is to remember that Christ paid it
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Speaker 7: all when he died on that cross. We don't have
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Speaker 7: to try to earn our way into heaven.
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Speaker 4: He paid it all and that is the gift of Christmas.
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Speaker 7: So anybody that thinks that maybe they're not doing enough,
23:18
Speaker 7: you know, President Trump said a little while ago that
23:21
Speaker 7: he wasn't doing so good and he had to end
23:23
Speaker 7: US war in Ukraine in order to earn his way
23:24
Speaker 7: into heaven. It's heartbreaking. If you're a Christian, you've accepted Christ.
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Speaker 7: He paid it all. All you have to do is
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Speaker 7: accept the gift. There's nothing you can do other than
23:35
Speaker 7: accept the gift and remember that's the reason for Christmas.
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Speaker 7: And following brother Tom, don't vote Democrat, don't vote Rhino,
23:42
Speaker 7: and have a good day.
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Speaker 1: Brian glad he ate it on that little extra point there,
23:47
Speaker 1: Jay appreciated. Okay, so yes, celebrate Christmas for that, but
23:51
Speaker 1: also celebrated because it was the Birth of Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 1: I think Easter is more for the resurrection either way.
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Speaker 1: I mean the concept is right there. And watch Charlie
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Speaker 1: Brown's Christmas KR seat Leap talk station five fifty five
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Speaker 1: car see the talk station Happy Wednesday, do a stack
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Speaker 1: and stupid to get into five were three seven four
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Speaker 1: nine fifty eight two three talk for a calling. Uh,
24:21
Speaker 1: but it's bringing from Pats call where his brother got
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Speaker 1: beat up and they didn't prosecute the guy beat him up.
24:28
Speaker 1: I'm headed to bring this up because I'd see the
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Speaker 1: Cincinni Quiry reporting camera night. Alex Trevinsky, he's on trial.
24:36
Speaker 1: Remember Alex charged with a misdemeanor in the viral downtown
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Speaker 1: beat down that brought the world's attention of the city
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Yeahs. Trial attorney asked h for a continuance,
24:47
Speaker 1: saying the prosecution filed information, but at least one surprise
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Speaker 1: witness and they hadn't time to research the witness. Also,
24:53
Speaker 1: some of the developments have come up. Ah well, everyone
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Speaker 1: kind of says and sort of believes that Travince he
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Speaker 1: acted in self defense during the confrontation. Remember, he got
25:03
Speaker 1: hit approximately twenty eight times to his head and his face.
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Speaker 1: He was just merely trying to defend himself. He didn't
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Speaker 1: incite the violence, and yet they're expending valuable and limited
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Speaker 1: prosecutorial resources to continue to go after this guy. In
25:22
Speaker 1: what world does this happen where they let people off
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Speaker 1: and do not prosecute them for crimes that we have
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Speaker 1: actual witnesses to. And as Pat pointed out, there's a
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Speaker 1: video of his brother being beaten up by this guy,
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Speaker 1: but no prosecution. Go ahead, figure that one out. If
25:37
Speaker 1: you can't explain it to me, feel free to give
25:38
Speaker 1: me a call and explain it to me. This is great.
25:40
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six World Cup. It's coming the United States, Mexico,
25:44
Speaker 1: and Canadian and Canada are going to be hosting it.
25:46
Speaker 1: And last week the presidents of all three countries attended
25:50
Speaker 1: and participated in the draw to determine which teams were
25:52
Speaker 1: playing in which groups. And yes, in the United States,
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Speaker 1: one of the host cities, our favorite, Seattle, the match
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Speaker 1: in Seattle taking place June twenty six. You can't make
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Speaker 1: this up, but prior to the draw, local organizers in
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Speaker 1: Seattle decided that the theme for that particular night, twenty
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Speaker 1: sixth June, will be LGBTQ plus RSWXYZ Pride Night, because
26:20
Speaker 1: June is something called Pride Month. Who's playing in the
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Speaker 1: June twenty sixth match in Pride celebrating Seattle? Egypt and Iran?
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Speaker 1: What In case you haven't gotten a memo yet. Iran
26:40
Speaker 1: follows drix sharia law, which means if you're gay, you're
26:43
Speaker 1: probably going to be well flogged, end up in jail,
26:48
Speaker 1: or face the death penalty. I'm sure my listeners remember
26:52
Speaker 1: reading many articles they've read over the years about what
26:55
Speaker 1: happens to gay lesbians, homosexuals, anybody in the LGBTQ plus rainbow.
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Speaker 1: They end up dying or get mistreated, to say the
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Speaker 1: least article I was reading on this one back in
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, seventeen people arrested and some beaten for attending
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Speaker 1: a gay birthday party County year twenty two to sixteen
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Speaker 1: year old quote unquote queer activists disappeared and murdered by
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Speaker 1: Iranian security officials. The list goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: Egypt described as a little bit more liberal as of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It's the laws do not outright ban homosexuality,
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Speaker 1: but it does use other quote unquote criminal acts like
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Speaker 1: indecency and debauchery to punish people who participate in intimate
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Speaker 1: same sex acts with up to three years in prison
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Speaker 1: and a fine, and law enforcement searches dating apps to
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Speaker 1: hunt these people down. Notably, the Pride branding for the
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth of the June Game is not a FIFA initiative. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask anybody believe that the the Iranians and
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Speaker 1: the Egyptians are actually going to stand for this. They're
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Speaker 1: going to be in a stadium filled with more gay
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Speaker 1: pride for flags, and you could shake a stick at.
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Speaker 3: This.
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Speaker 1: This is something they are fundamentally opposed to, at least
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Speaker 1: from an Islamic perspective. So, yeah, that was a great one.
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Speaker 1: You know, It's something I think God has a great
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Speaker 1: sense of humor. I mean, seriously, what are the odds?
28:24
Speaker 1: And hell, maybe it was fixed to end up that way. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: it made the stack of stupid and I think it
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Speaker 1: was worthy. Five forty five fifty five care City Talk
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28:52
Speaker 1: Thanks again. Garrey, Jeff Walker and Dan Carroll Cover in
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Speaker 1: formed me back to the stack is stupid. We've got
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Speaker 1: a Palm Coast, Florida. Twenty seven year old Kyl Poe
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Speaker 1: pulled over a police on the twenty ninth morning of
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth November because she was driving in the wrong
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Speaker 1: direction and then failed to yield or come to a
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Speaker 1: complete stop when turning around, stopping in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the intersection after officers turned on their lights. Flagler County
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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office release pointing this out. Officers approached the vehicle
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Speaker 1: found Poe in the driver's seat, her two year old
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Speaker 1: in the back seat, along with another woman probably cause
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Speaker 1: statement obtained by long Crime and well of course reported
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Speaker 1: by it. While speaking with Poe, I observed slurred speech,
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Speaker 1: watery and bloodshot eyes, delayed reaction time, and difficulty with
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Speaker 1: divided attention. Poe asked to exit the vehicle, which she did. However,
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Speaker 1: she exhibited difficulty in maintaining her balance upon standing, although
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Speaker 1: a post said she had not consumed any substances that
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Speaker 1: might impair driving ability. Officers conducted a sobriety test and
29:56
Speaker 1: observed multiple signs of inebriation that are brought to the
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Speaker 1: police station. Officers reportedly told her to take off her
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Speaker 1: socks and saw seven and a half pills, which were
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Speaker 1: later identified as xanax fallout Yes, Sir Joshtracker cord to
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Speaker 1: the press release, A further search found more Xanax pills
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Speaker 1: wrapped in clear plastic concealed inside Poe's genital area. Deputy
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Speaker 1: to transport a Poe to the jail reviewed or patrol
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Speaker 1: vehicles backseat camera was showed Poe removingn item from the
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Speaker 1: panning of her bra and place it into her genital
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Speaker 1: area as tradition it is, isn't it? Court to Sheriff
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Speaker 1: for Eckstali in a statement, the first this woman did
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Speaker 1: something incredibly dangerous and stupid by driving under the influence
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Speaker 1: of drug with a young toddler in the car. Then
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Speaker 1: on her way to the jail. She thought she would
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Speaker 1: not get caught with xanax, trying to hide it in
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Speaker 1: body cavities, but she got hot caught in now Face's
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Speaker 1: additional felony charge charge of driving under the influence, refusal
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Speaker 1: to submit to DUI testing, smuggling controlled substances, controlled substances
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Speaker 1: with an intent to sell, and tampering with evidence. Now
31:05
Speaker 1: the interest of FCC compliance, I can't say out loud
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Speaker 1: the full word that was used, but this is an
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Speaker 1: illustration of the problems that we face versus our quote
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Speaker 1: unquote friends on the other side of the big pond,
31:16
Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean. Elizabeth Kinney, thirty four year old single
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Speaker 1: mother from a Tranmere, mary Side I believe this is UK,
31:24
Speaker 1: dragged naked from her bathtub last month when eleven police officers,
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Speaker 1: ten men and one woman burst into her home to
31:33
Speaker 1: arrest her. Why well, Apparently, while she was recovering in
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Speaker 1: the hospital from a fractured skull and serious injuries that
31:42
Speaker 1: were inflicted by a male acquaintance, she sent a private
31:47
Speaker 1: or rather private text messages to a former friend that
31:50
Speaker 1: included the word well, I just say the F word,
31:54
Speaker 1: a derogatory term used to describe gay men. You know
31:59
Speaker 1: what I'm saying talking about? Or a cigarette if you're British, Yes, Joe,
32:05
Speaker 1: thank you. Excellent observation. Anyway, that was how she the
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Speaker 1: words she used to describe her attacker again in a
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Speaker 1: private text messages to former friend the receipt report the
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Speaker 1: report of the message is recipient. Rather report of the
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Speaker 1: message is grossly offensive. So whoever this friend was the
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Speaker 1: one that apparently reported her number? Twentieth Kenny pleaded guilty
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Speaker 1: to add Stephan Magistrates Courts descending malicious communication aggravated by
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Speaker 1: homophobic hate. Fine three hundred and sixty four pounds, given
32:36
Speaker 1: a community order and forced to apologize an open court.
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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, reminiscent of conversation we had earlier this morning
32:46
Speaker 1: with pat no charges brought against the man who assaulted her.
32:52
Speaker 1: This woman appeared on Piers Morgan uncensored. She described the
32:55
Speaker 1: raid as terrifying and humiliating. Eleven police officers. Well, the
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Speaker 1: Mayorside Police Department said deploying that many officers was proportionate
33:04
Speaker 1: for public protection. Clearly they're not struggling with financial limitations
33:12
Speaker 1: in that particular police department. If they got eleven free
33:15
Speaker 1: officers to go and arrest someone for a word, remember
33:21
Speaker 1: how great it is to live in the United States
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Speaker 1: of America. As bad as you might perceive that word
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Speaker 1: to be, at least if you use it, you're not
33:28
Speaker 1: going to be thrown in jail. Five five fifty five
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Speaker 1: oh five. Don't know what it means, we find out
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Speaker 1: together the topic love and terror. Laurence Stewart Donovan Neil's
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Speaker 1: not in today, but Lauren's going to cover for him,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure she'll do a great job. Americans for prosperities.
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Speaker 1: Lawrence stew To talk about Obamacare subsidies. Have got a
34:20
Speaker 1: few words on that here in a moment. Congressman Thomas
34:23
Speaker 1: Massey eight oh five, followed by Napolitano, of course, judging
34:26
Speaker 1: Polatano on Wednesdays. I love when Massy proceeds, and particularly
34:29
Speaker 1: when they're talking about the same subject matter, which is
34:32
Speaker 1: the third subject with Congressman Massy blowing up drug smugglers
34:36
Speaker 1: Judge and Politano the name of his column, kill them All,
34:39
Speaker 1: and that also involves blowing up drug smugglers, is going
34:42
Speaker 1: to be a vote on that. Senate facing a vote
34:44
Speaker 1: next week to block Trump on Venezuela or maybe approve it.
34:47
Speaker 1: They could authorize you some military force and let Trump
34:49
Speaker 1: go on his merry way blowing people up. We'll see
34:52
Speaker 1: what Massey has to say about that, but he'll also
34:55
Speaker 1: be talking about the pipe bomber being identified Erkele I
34:58
Speaker 1: think was his name, h and us getting out of NATO.
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Speaker 1: Really gonna be fascinated by Congress and Massy's comments on that.
35:07
Speaker 1: And then Alisha Reese, God bless Alsia Rees, Hamilton County Prosecutor,
35:10
Speaker 1: seems to be the only one of the three that
35:11
Speaker 1: has any concept about what's right and what's wrong. She
35:15
Speaker 1: cited the three hundred and fifty million dollars in stadium
35:18
Speaker 1: upgrades that the county commissioners found in the budget. And
35:22
Speaker 1: yet we have Hamilton County Prosecutor Countie Pillitch worried about
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Speaker 1: the ten percent cut that's coming her way if her
35:27
Speaker 1: budget is not increased. She's got more crime to deal with,
35:31
Speaker 1: more grand jury indictment, it's more complex matters, and the
35:34
Speaker 1: commissioners are talking about cutting her budget. So I consider
35:39
Speaker 1: that just one more leg of defund the police. Defund
35:41
Speaker 1: the police. Well, they're getting a raise coming up this year,
35:44
Speaker 1: but no, we can't defund the police completely, bad idea.
35:46
Speaker 1: The public doesn't like that anymore. Turns out we all
35:49
Speaker 1: like law enforcement in our neighborhood. So let's just defund
35:52
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office. Pat called the last hours that his
35:55
Speaker 1: brother got to beat down and over the rhine and
35:57
Speaker 1: they just let the guy go, didn't prosecute him at all. Why,
36:01
Speaker 1: good question, We don't know. So Alisha resee the tail
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Speaker 1: end of the program, and thank you Alicia for green
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Speaker 1: to join the Morning Show this morning. Three seven, four,
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Speaker 1: nine fifty five eight hundred eight two to three talk
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Speaker 1: pound five point fifty on AT and T phones. Now
36:18
Speaker 1: Democrats are moving forward, and this was a promised thing.
36:20
Speaker 1: You knew it was coming. The continuing Resolution which led
36:23
Speaker 1: to the government shut down. The reopening of the government
36:26
Speaker 1: was came along with the promise from the Republicans that
36:28
Speaker 1: they would move forward and vote on the continuation of
36:31
Speaker 1: these Obamacare subsidies, the ones that mask the pain for
36:35
Speaker 1: even people making north a six hundred percent of the
36:37
Speaker 1: poverty level. You don't have to pay the premium. You
36:39
Speaker 1: don't realize how expensive it's got. The expense is a
36:41
Speaker 1: reflection of the failure of the entire process. Obamacare doesn't
36:45
Speaker 1: work and it's a mecca for fraud. And now I
36:48
Speaker 1: can turn to the editorial board of the Wall Street
36:50
Speaker 1: Journalist summarize what we've talked about previously, but also a
36:52
Speaker 1: more fundamental point that I want to make regardless of
36:56
Speaker 1: whether they vote in favor of extending the subsidies or
36:59
Speaker 1: they go with a Republican proposal, which is like establishing
37:02
Speaker 1: these health savings accounts to put money in for premiums.
37:05
Speaker 1: It's sort of like the money follows the individual, as
37:08
Speaker 1: opposed to going directly to the insurance companies. Donald Trump
37:11
Speaker 1: on record, I don't want the money going to the
37:15
Speaker 1: insurance companies. I think we can all get around that concept.
37:22
Speaker 1: But this GAO study that we talked about last week,
37:25
Speaker 1: under cover tests they submitted insurance applications for fictitious individuals
37:29
Speaker 1: under the Obamacare Exchange. Nearly all of the invented people
37:34
Speaker 1: the GAO created were able to enroll in subsidized plans
37:38
Speaker 1: that will be your tax payer dollars at workfolks, despite
37:42
Speaker 1: the fact that they submitted either false records or no
37:45
Speaker 1: records to verify their identities and incomes. Now it was
37:49
Speaker 1: a small slice. Remember these was this whole cloth created people.
37:51
Speaker 1: They didn't exist. Twenty four applications, of which twenty three
37:55
Speaker 1: approved eighteen arrollees still covered as a September, which suggest
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Speaker 1: the exchange and insurers didn't bother verifying information even after enrollment.
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Speaker 1: Subsidies pay two insurance companies for those loan eighteen applicants
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Speaker 1: total more than ten thousand dollars per month. Ten thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars per month, which is equivalent to a sixty seven
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars annual subsidy for each enrolling. The general Counting
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Speaker 1: Office said in some cases, in their words, we were
38:28
Speaker 1: not prompted to provide documentation to verify the applicant's identity
38:34
Speaker 1: no Social Security number. Apparently that was not a problem.
38:39
Speaker 1: Another instance, Obamacare Exchange notified US GAO that had verified
38:43
Speaker 1: the applicants' estimated income based upon documentation we submitted. However,
38:48
Speaker 1: the GAO pointed out we didn't submit any documentation. In
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Speaker 1: two cases, brokers called the Obamacare called the Obamacare Help
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Speaker 1: Center because applicants had submitted invalid social Security numbers. Brokers
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Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. The center let the
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Speaker 1: brokers submit the fraudulent applications anyway, which they conclude suggests
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Speaker 1: that Center for Medical and Medicaid Services, which runs the
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Speaker 1: federal Obamacare Exchange, was just simply ignoring fraud. Nah why bother?
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Speaker 1: GAO also analyzed the ROMAN data in twenty three and
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Speaker 1: twenty four for additional anomalies, finding more than twenty nine
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Speaker 1: thousand SOCA security numbers in twenty twenty three and nearly
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Speaker 1: sixty eight thousand Social Security numbers in twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: used to receive more than one year's worth of insurance
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Speaker 1: coverage with subsidies in a single year, meaning the same
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Speaker 1: Social Security numbers used by more than one person. How
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Speaker 1: is that even possible? I mean, we can live in
39:48
Speaker 1: a world of electronics, artificial intelligence. Cross referencing this stuff
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Speaker 1: is a real challenge. I would like to think.
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Speaker 8: Not.
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Speaker 1: They don't care, they say in one so security never
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Speaker 1: used to apply for more than one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: five policies. Maybe identity theft possible. Brokers submitted fake security
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Speaker 1: numbers to enroll ineligible or phantom people in plans because
40:15
Speaker 1: brokers earn more in commission from insurers if they enroll
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Speaker 1: more people in Obamacare. Shocking, that would invite fraud. Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, I'm shocked. There's gambling here. Justice de Barbin
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Speaker 1: charged numerous brokers with enrolling people in Obamacare plans or
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Speaker 1: switching them to new plans without their consent. They identified
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Speaker 1: at least thirty thousand applicants in twenty twenty three and
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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty thousand of them in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four that had in the GAOS reporting likely unauthorized changes
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Speaker 1: by agents or brokers.
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Speaker 4: Huh.
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Speaker 1: Maybe because of the financial incentive brokers have to well lie,
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Speaker 1: you create a system, you create giant holes, we'll call
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Speaker 1: them loopholes, or just the failure of our elected officials
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Speaker 1: to anticipate fraud, wasted abuse that happens in literally every
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Speaker 1: government program by putting in measures and stops to prevent
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Speaker 1: this from happening. And look what happens. Even the brokers
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Speaker 1: get in on the game. It's not just Somali immigrants
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, different department, I understandl Also, GOO also found
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Speaker 1: that incomes were not later verified for enrollees who received
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Speaker 1: twenty one billion dollars in calendar year twenty twenty three A,
41:32
Speaker 1: meaning they might have received bigger subsidies than they were
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Speaker 1: eligible for. Well, you wouldn't know, because it didn't check
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Speaker 1: Paragon health institutes. Brian Blaze warned that Obamacare's lacks verification
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Speaker 1: controls encourage people to understate income to get bigger subsidies.
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Speaker 1: Ah individuals also getting in on the fraud. Wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to verify my income. No, I don't
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Speaker 1: make one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year. I
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Speaker 1: make forty. There's nobody behind the scenes looking into that,
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Speaker 1: even though the IRS presumably would have the information about
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Speaker 1: your income, which is of course attached to your Social
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Speaker 1: Security number. Again, Artificial intelligence or simple computers or even
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Speaker 1: people walking between departments could go over and find this out.
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Speaker 1: I know I'm making it a little more simplistic than
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Speaker 1: it is, but you know, damn well, it doesn't require
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Speaker 1: a physical human being to go back and forth or
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Speaker 1: crosscheck social Security numbers. Paragon Health Blaze, using Census Bureau data,
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Speaker 1: estimates that six point four million people this year were
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Speaker 1: improperly enrolled in subsidized Obamacare plans, costing you and me
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Speaker 1: twenty seven billion dollars. It just gets worse and worse.
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Speaker 1: And then when you shift over to the problem that
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Speaker 1: was revealed in Minnesota, autism, autism, is it exploding? No,
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Speaker 1: Welfare fraud is the reason that we have more autistic
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Speaker 1: children out there because they're not autistic. They just found
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Speaker 1: out that if you say someone's autistic, could get a
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Speaker 1: whole crap load of money from the federal government. And
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Speaker 1: they're not going to bother following up either. Another epic
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Speaker 1: failure under a giant program from the government which is
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Speaker 1: supposed to be looking out for our taxpayer dollars. Apparently,
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Speaker 1: states rarely verify that kids who are diagnosed actually meet
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Speaker 1: the medical criteria for autism, or that they get appropriate
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Speaker 1: treatment from qualified specialists after they've been identified as autistic,
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Speaker 1: label them autistic, charge the government from massive treatment protocols,
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Speaker 1: the government does not follow up. This is the same
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Speaker 1: problem we face with a multitude of layers of government,
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Speaker 1: notably the City of Cincinnati. Todd Zenzer, Citizen Watchdog, there's
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Speaker 1: all kinds of NGOs out there with their hand in
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Speaker 1: the city taxpayer cookie jar that are getting funded every year.
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Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer regularly asked and has never been provided the information.
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Speaker 1: Has anybody checked to see where this money went? Does
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Speaker 1: anybody find out if these NGOs actually did the work
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Speaker 1: that they claim they're doing with the money they got
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Speaker 1: from the city taxpayer? The answer ultimately no. Same thing
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Speaker 1: going in on a much broader scale in the federal
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Speaker 1: government with these programs, children covered by Medicaid or the
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Speaker 1: government run Children's Health Insurance program CHIP described as two
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Speaker 1: point five times as likely as those with private coverage
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Speaker 1: to be diagnosed with autism. Oh, many lower income kids
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Speaker 1: are labeled autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems.
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Speaker 1: So let's blame it on Maybe racism is that it
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Speaker 1: get another autistic kid in there, label them autistic, and
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Speaker 1: we'll say, well, they're lower income kids. Maybe it's consequence
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Speaker 1: of racism.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Court On, Massachusetts, Officer of Office of Inspector General, another
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Speaker 1: state where they found widespread fraud autism behavioral services, in
44:51
Speaker 1: his words, compromise what comprised rather one of the fastest
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Speaker 1: growing healthcare industries in the United States, there's an increased
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Speaker 1: need for vigilance in program integrity to keep pace with
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Speaker 1: the glowing number of ABA providers. Minnesota number one, the
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Speaker 1: number of autism providers soared Are you ready seven hundred percent?
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Speaker 1: The providers soared that much. Payments of them increased three
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Speaker 1: thousand percent between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three. And
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Speaker 1: the big case in Minnesota, we all know why it
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Speaker 1: was all built on fraud. Go out into the community,
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Speaker 1: the smaller community in that particular case, Grab a kid,
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Speaker 1: label them autism, put him in one of these programs.
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Speaker 1: The seven hundred percent increase in autism providers, and everybody
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Speaker 1: gets paid. Federal audits of Medicaid spending audit on autism
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Speaker 1: therapies in Indiana and blessed Brian, that's my first day
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Speaker 1: back Indiana. And Wisconsin, two more states they say turned
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Speaker 1: up widespread abuses. Nearly all Medicaid payments were improper or
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Speaker 1: potentially improper, meaning the providers didn't adhere to the federal requirements.
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Speaker 1: They say in Indiana, therapy was provided by staff who
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Speaker 1: did not have the appropriate credentials and to children who
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Speaker 1: did not receive the required diagnostic, evaluation or treatment referrals.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's better they find out later than never.
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Speaker 1: He may say, well, look, the obligation to provide financial reporting,
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Speaker 1: proper sources, security numbers, proper diagnosis, at least in the
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Speaker 1: case of autism and getting money for the autism programs,
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Speaker 1: it says you have to do it. But if there's
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Speaker 1: no entity or organization or oversight body that's looking into
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Speaker 1: and following up on whether they actually provided the documents,
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Speaker 1: they didn't do it. They pay lip service to looking
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Speaker 1: out for fraud wasted abuse by requiring this documentation. But
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Speaker 1: if there isn't a group to follow up and verify
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Speaker 1: that it was provided, welcome to the world of billions
46:53
Speaker 1: and billions and billions of dollars in theft. So, depending
47:03
Speaker 1: on cole, Congress chooses to approach subsidies under Obamacare, whether
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Speaker 1: they increase them, approve them, say no, go a different direction.
47:14
Speaker 1: What I would like on behalf of anverybody who pays
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Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars and to everybody out there who really relies
47:22
Speaker 1: upon a federal government program, you'd better damn well step
47:27
Speaker 1: up to the plate and raise concerns about minding the store.
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Speaker 1: What are you going to do about fraud, waste and abuse?
47:35
Speaker 1: What entity your organization is charged with monitoring this and
47:38
Speaker 1: who's going to be held accountable to the extent that
47:40
Speaker 1: this fraud, wasted abuse continues because it goes on and
47:43
Speaker 1: on and on two programs I just talked about how
47:46
Speaker 1: many programs are out there where this kind of activity
47:49
Speaker 1: is going on. Go ahead, use your imagination. I'm sure
47:51
Speaker 1: it's a lot bigger than what you come up with.
47:53
Speaker 1: Six po nineteen. Right now, if you have KC the
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Speaker 1: the bones. Good friend of the show and personal friend
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Speaker 1: of mine, Cribbage, Mike, welcome back, my submarine or friend.
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Speaker 1: Thank you again for you and Cindy in the gift
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Speaker 1: of the deck of cards with the submarines on them.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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Speaker 9: We were so welcome Brian Thomas, and welcome back yourself
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Speaker 9: and as well as all those sailors out there standing
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Speaker 9: watch hundreds of feet beneath the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean.
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Speaker 9: I can almost guarantee you along with keeping the sea
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Speaker 9: lanes open for democracy, there is a Cribb James going
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Speaker 9: on right now as we're speaking.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is. It's a perfect game for a submarine,
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Speaker 1: small compact. All you need is a deck of cards
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Speaker 1: and a small board.
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Speaker 4: Keep it moving.
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Speaker 9: I'm really getting mixed signals this morning, and hopefully maybe
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Speaker 9: you can clear it up, or maybe even Alicia Reese
48:42
Speaker 9: could clear it up, and I really appreciate her coming
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Speaker 9: on your show as yes you because we're going to
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Speaker 9: reduce the prosecutor's office now due to a budget. Paul,
48:52
Speaker 9: you mentioned that the city has a budget.
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Speaker 4: Deficit.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, But right now the county is on the
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Speaker 9: hook for sixty five thousand dollars to the protesters from
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty. The city is on the hook and they've
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Speaker 9: agreed to it. Looks like they're going to vote.
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Speaker 4: On it today.
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Speaker 9: The law in Public Safty voted yesterday out for over
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Speaker 9: eight million dollars and the one council woman and Apoli
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Speaker 9: I believe her name is said that the government wronged
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Speaker 9: these people. Now I'm sorry, I believe there was a
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Speaker 9: curfew in place at a minimum. I don't know what
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Speaker 9: else all the rest of these people did. And maybe
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Speaker 9: Alisia Rees can put some meat on the bone here.
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Speaker 9: I just don't understand what's being reported. And Scottie Johnson
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Speaker 9: once again all I support the police, like, well, you
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Speaker 9: know what we need to get passes. It's been five years,
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Speaker 9: and he quoted the fact that we're actually getting off
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Speaker 9: light because the city of Denver paid out fourteen million. Well,
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Speaker 9: I don't know what happened in the city at Denver.
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Speaker 9: I don't live in a city, but I work in
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Speaker 9: the city and I don't want to see my tax
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Speaker 9: dollars go to pay for mis grants.
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Speaker 1: Well, I believe, and let me boil it down how
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Speaker 1: I perceive it, and I very well could be wrong
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Speaker 1: on this. The lawsuit claimed that was a violation of
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Speaker 1: the protesters First Amendment rights. You have a right to
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Speaker 1: free exercise, you have a right to of course, free assembly,
50:11
Speaker 1: you have the right to speak. You don't have the
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Speaker 1: right to commit crimes. Now where there were criminal elements
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Speaker 1: among the folks that were out protesting in the aftermath
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Speaker 1: of the whole killing of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd,
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Speaker 1: where they all violating committing crimes. I think the argument
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Speaker 1: is no, and that is it arbitrary to impose a
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Speaker 1: curfew on every man, woman, in child, everywhere which prevents
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Speaker 1: you from the free exercise or from your right to
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Speaker 1: free assembly and right to free speech. So I believe
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Speaker 1: that is the predicate for the lawsuit. Now, individuals who
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Speaker 1: committed crime, I think were subject to prosecution, But was
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Speaker 1: the hundreds of people who were sort of mass arrested
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Speaker 1: for curfew violations, And they also claimed that their rights
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Speaker 1: were violated because they were held outdoors at the Hamilton
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Speaker 1: County Justice Center what they call this sally Port, which
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Speaker 1: is an outdoor, gated area with no rue. It was
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Speaker 1: supervised by deputy sort of a holding pen concept. So
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Speaker 1: that's the genesis of the lawsuit.
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Speaker 4: Now, I.
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Speaker 1: Crandly did put a curfew in place, but again they
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Speaker 1: claimed it was unconstitution which ultimately led to the unlawful
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Speaker 1: imprisonment of protesters. So can you impose a curfew on adults?
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Speaker 1: I thought you could, But is there a judicial process
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Speaker 1: or a legislative process. In other words, did it have
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Speaker 1: to go through the city council to be voted on
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Speaker 1: to be implemented. That is a gray area for me,
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Speaker 1: and I will admit ignorance on that area. But that's
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Speaker 1: the thing.
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Speaker 9: Definitely is more explanation than maybe I received, and if
51:36
Speaker 9: it's been out there than I apologized.
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Speaker 1: But no, don't apologize because again I admit it. It's
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Speaker 1: a gray area for me. But they settled it rather
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Speaker 1: than go to court and defend it, So maybe there
51:46
Speaker 1: was something to the lawsuit. But you're right, the county
51:48
Speaker 1: has on the hook for sixty five thousand, even though
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Speaker 1: it was the county facilities that these folks were held in,
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Speaker 1: and the city taxpayers now facing a thirty two million
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Speaker 1: dollar budget shortfall for the upcoming calendar year. Eyesable chunk
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Speaker 1: of that wrapped up in eight point one million dollars. Mike, absolutely, sir, Yep,
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Speaker 1: it's okay. They apparently have some bond deal they're going
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Speaker 1: to fund the settlement with. Not really clear on that
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Speaker 1: one either, Mike. God bless you, sir, and thanks again
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Speaker 1: for the cards. Man really tickled me to come into
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Speaker 1: looking forward to Lesha restoring the program. Having kindy commissioner
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Speaker 1: dealing with budget issues and seems to be in favor
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Speaker 1: of maintaining or at least allowing Himlon County Prosecutor Connie
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Speaker 1: Pilach's office to get as much money or maybe even
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Speaker 1: more money. The rest of them not so much. Looking
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Speaker 1: at a ten percent cut, Connie Pillach worried about that.
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Speaker 1: She says we're facing potential cuts to staff staff. Notably
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Speaker 1: ten percent cuts is what she says is going to
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Speaker 1: be needed. That's eighteen positions elimit into the Prosecutor's office
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Speaker 1: under the current budget proposal. Alisia Reese even noted it
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Speaker 1: was the first time she's ever seen a Hamilton County
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Speaker 1: prosecutor come in for a budget presentation. Commissioner Dumas said
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Speaker 1: she's concerned with maintaining the prosecutor's staff and is well
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Speaker 1: expanding when the county is able to expanding it when
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Speaker 1: the county is able to, in other words, able to
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Speaker 1: if they have the money. Lisa resaid she wanted to
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Speaker 1: consider the county's priorities after agreeing to contribute three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars for paid Course Stadium's lease with
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Speaker 1: the Bengals. And I know we have a contractual obligation
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Speaker 1: to do that, but you know what, where are the priorities?
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Speaker 1: We don't get our tax relief as a consequence of
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Speaker 1: that infusion of cash. No, no, no, no, And now
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have the prosecutor's office reduction of ten percent
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Speaker 1: when County pilotics or when yeah, Hamilton County Prosecutor Pilot
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Speaker 1: has explained that the number of cases and the number
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Speaker 1: of grand jury indictments has increased, a Lisa Ree said,
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Speaker 1: if you could stand for the Bengals and get a
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Speaker 1: deal done, I would hope we could stand with the
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office and get a deal done. Amen. Alicia, looking
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Speaker 1: forward to having on the program at the end of
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Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour, and note which is a head
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Speaker 1: scratcher for me. Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office continues to well
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Speaker 1: prosecute Alex Trevinski, who's been charging that late July beatdown,
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Speaker 1: the man who was the victim of the beatdown, who
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Speaker 1: She was a victim, just tending to someone with injuries
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Speaker 1: when she got cole cocked in the face without asking
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Speaker 1: for continuance. Apparently he's being currently tried. Apparently the prosecutor's
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Speaker 1: office brought forth a surprise witness, and they need time
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Speaker 1: he acted in self defense during the entire confrontation. That
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Speaker 10: I don't know all the technicalities of all this stuff
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Speaker 10: with the reef, that the money that they're finding in
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Speaker 10: the state of Ohio that they're going to give the
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Speaker 10: Cleveland Brown and fund them a new football field, economy shit,
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Speaker 10: and everybody out here sad.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe,
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Speaker 1: you got the dump button form of their brother.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: Remember, I enjoy hearing what people have to say, but
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Speaker 1: you have to remember that I have an obligation to
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Speaker 1: the FCC. I cannot allow profanities to be used on
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Speaker 1: the morning show. That's where we have like a nine
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Speaker 1: minute delay. I'm exaggerating slightly, but I can't let him
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Speaker 1: finish what I thought was going to be a very
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Speaker 1: coherent point because he dropped an FCC non compliant word.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not angry with you. I understand how it is,
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Speaker 1: and trust me, I find a struggle from time to
56:43
Speaker 1: time dealing with FCC compliance myself. If you know me
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Speaker 1: in my off hours, you know that I don't follow
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Speaker 1: FCC compliance rules of my day to day life. But
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Speaker 1: we got to abide. We have to abide. But if
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Speaker 1: you want to din where the money's coming from, it
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Speaker 1: is the unclaimed fun That's where the funds coming from.
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Speaker 1: To give the Cleveland Browns six hundred million dollars, which
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Speaker 1: I find offensive as a proposition, regardless whether the money
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Speaker 1: is there or not. And this is the subject of litigation.
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Speaker 1: The legal challenge to use those unclaimed funds to pay
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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland brown Stadium apparently hit a roadbock. Federal
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Speaker 1: judge's side of the money can start transferring beginning January first.
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Speaker 1: They were seeking an injunction that people looking to stop
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Speaker 1: this was four people with unclaimed funds sue the state
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Speaker 1: to prevent it from moving between Now they had to
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Speaker 1: move the money. It was one point seven to one
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Speaker 1: point nine billion dollars. They've created a new fund and
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Speaker 1: from that fund, Ohio would dole out the money for
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown Dome Stadium project. Now, overall, the state
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Speaker 1: holds more than four billion dollars in dormant bank accounts,
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Speaker 1: uncash checks, utility deposits. I don't know if it includes
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Speaker 1: unclaimed lottery tickets he didn't cash in. Regardless, there's the
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Speaker 1: money right there. Now, you can submit the paperwork, could
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Speaker 1: claim for the unclaimed funds. Hey, that's my bank account.
58:02
Speaker 1: There's a process for that, and if you don't do
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Speaker 1: that within ten years, that money gets deposited into well,
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Speaker 1: the unclaimed funds account from which they have allocated money
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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland brown Stadium. Now, the reason this is
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Speaker 1: allowed to go forward, you have to get an injunction
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Speaker 1: to make this stop. There has to be what they
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Speaker 1: call irreparable harm. Your likelihood to win on the case,
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Speaker 1: success on the merits is assured. You know, the judge knows,
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Speaker 1: can look at the law ahead of time and can
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Speaker 1: conclude pretty reasonably that you're gonna win. But in order
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Speaker 1: for the for an injunction to be issued, there has
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Speaker 1: to be irreparable harm. If the judge does not put
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Speaker 1: an injunction in place when money is involved, there's no
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Speaker 1: irreparable harm. Money can always be found, so you're only
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Speaker 1: harm to the extent your money disappeared. But because the
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Speaker 1: state still has money, there's an opportunity for you to
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Speaker 1: get it back. Now the lawsuit is going to move forward,
58:58
Speaker 1: so they're gonna let the lawsuit go forward. This may
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Speaker 1: ultimately be blocked, who knows, But as of right now,
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Speaker 1: that's where the money's coming from. But that doesn't make
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Speaker 1: the whole question of whether or not that money should
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Speaker 1: be used for a damned stadium. That question still exists
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Speaker 1: as a matter of morals and ethics and priorities. And I,
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Speaker 1: for one, don't believe the private sports team should get
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Speaker 1: any slice of any dollars, regardless if it's because you
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Speaker 1: let a bank account closed and forgot to get the
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Speaker 1: money out of it, or because it's coming out of
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Speaker 1: the taxpayer funded dollars. Why would the money go there?
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Speaker 1: Does anybody else have something on their list they want
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Speaker 1: from government done before we give money to the Cleveland Browns?
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Speaker 1: Anybody I do, Steve hold On to take your call
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Speaker 1: right out of the gate. It is six forty five
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Speaker 1: We got our rules established upfront, right, don't drop any
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Speaker 1: curse words on the morning show, Steve, Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling this morning.
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Speaker 3: Good morning. I have been non compliant before, and you
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Speaker 3: have justifiably cut me off before. Come to worry about
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Speaker 3: mister Tom. But I was wondering, why aren't they using
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Speaker 3: that money on the bridge across the river number one?
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Speaker 3: And what about possibles? And why are they just giving
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Speaker 3: it to people that are already rich going through sports events?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, basically think them feel more comfortable.
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Speaker 1: Just scratching the surface, Steve, you know, just scratching the service.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure every single one of us in the listening
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Speaker 1: audience could come up with something that we would prefer
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Speaker 1: that money going to that doesn't go to support an independent,
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Speaker 1: very profitable sports organization which makes millions and millions of
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Speaker 1: dollars for their owners.
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Speaker 3: One thing I noticed, so I jump between you and
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Speaker 3: talk great for us what we call it PBS and PBS, MPR,
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Speaker 3: and just to hear the actual details of story is
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Speaker 3: in between. It's funny to listen to when you break
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Speaker 3: away and they go to the station's news how they
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Speaker 3: don't always include the full topics or just a slant,
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Speaker 3: even though it's talk radio.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of funny.
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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, the money could be used a lot
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Speaker 3: of ways. With the billions of billions keep coming in
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Speaker 3: with a Dumbo care and this and that.
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Speaker 6: It's just what do we have to do to wake
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Speaker 6: people up?
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Speaker 3: They're so polarized with their gods of whoever that they
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Speaker 3: can't realize the money being stolen out of pockets and
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Speaker 3: they'll die on that hill just to just then. I
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Speaker 3: don't know now that the depsty files, they just had
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Speaker 3: the Florida release and nobody's talking about them.
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Speaker 1: I know that kind of felt by the wayside.
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Speaker 5: Did it?
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Speaker 1: See if Collas wondered where that went. Maybe it's just
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Speaker 1: a shiny object that we were all chasing after as
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Speaker 1: a distraction to keep us away from. Oh, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: maybe another government program that's billions and billions of dollars
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Speaker 1: in fraud has been revealed.
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Speaker 3: I always say when when big news is starting to
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Speaker 3: break that is against the propaganda machine. Something else happened.
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Speaker 3: I call it the rodeo clowns. Look over here, look
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Speaker 3: over here when they ask the stories over here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember with the guy that guy.
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Speaker 3: In the Bengals game that had the episode on the field.
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Speaker 3: Do you remember what happened the same day when the
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Speaker 3: CAA came out that same day and said they had
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Speaker 3: a ham in the killing of Kennedy, but they distracted
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Speaker 3: it with football. I'm pretty sure to go in the
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Speaker 3: way back to scene and start researching this stuff, anything
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Speaker 3: that is attracting to the people for something else going on.
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Speaker 1: Well, Kennedy assassination. People like quite often asked where were
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Speaker 1: you when Kennedy was assassinated? I was merely if that
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Speaker 1: a gleam in my dad's eyes, So that preceded me
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Speaker 1: by it for years. So I can't account for that one,
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Speaker 1: and I don't recall specifically what the distractions were. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know how successful you can be distracting people's
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Speaker 1: attention away from the presidential assassination. However, you know as
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Speaker 1: well as I know, that there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: distractions that we go down the road in order to
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Speaker 1: keep us from talking about more fundamentally important things, and
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Speaker 1: we clearly have a lot more important things in front
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Speaker 1: of us. So I appreciate the call truly, and I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to throw this out there really quickly. It's
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Speaker 1: been in the back of my mind, you know, the
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Speaker 1: libertarian guy in me really, you know, doesn't like regulations
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Speaker 1: and restrictions too much, and I understand the reason for them.
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Speaker 1: But I having a moment of clarity about children online generally,
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Speaker 1: and the more stories I see about sextortion and children
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Speaker 1: killing themselves, because there are nefarious people out there that
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Speaker 1: I would love to violate the FCC in describing them
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Speaker 1: trying to do harm to our children as if it's
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Speaker 1: a sport getting our children to harm themselves, or just
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Speaker 1: flat out extorting money. I'd read this most recent story
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Speaker 1: that this kid killed himself after being extorted. They created
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Speaker 1: a fake persona. They created a seventeen year old girl.
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Speaker 1: This was a teenager in high school. They acted like
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Speaker 1: a seventeen year old girl. They followed what he did.
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Speaker 1: They knew from social media, which Jimmy worked out his
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Speaker 1: friends and this person, this fictitious person name dropped them
1:04:11
Speaker 1: in order to establish confidence and established trust. That trust
1:04:15
Speaker 1: was established, and of course, at one time, the so
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Speaker 1: called seventeen year old girl who was not asked for
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Speaker 1: an explicit photo, and apparently this young man provided that
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Speaker 1: and then extorted them, demanding five hundred dollars. The kid
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Speaker 1: did not have five hundred. He offered the soul thirty
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Speaker 1: dollars he had in his bank account. They wouldn't take it.
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Speaker 1: He took his own life. And with that background just
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Speaker 1: one of the multitude of those type of stories. Australia
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Speaker 1: now has cracked down no social media for children under
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Speaker 1: the age of sixteen. That means no TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
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Speaker 1: kick Twitch read it, no more access to those now
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Speaker 1: how I don't how they're going to accomplish this, that's
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Speaker 1: a Dave Hatter question. But let's assume they can accomplish it.
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Speaker 1: The vast majority when polled, the vast majority of folks
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Speaker 1: want children to not be able to have access to this.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: The reason I'm kind of thinking about embracing this concept.
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Speaker 1: Parents clearly are incapable of saying no to their children.
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Speaker 1: That's one thing. The power already exists, and that's kind
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Speaker 1: of where my default position is. If you have the
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Speaker 1: ability to stop it, then you should. But we have
1:05:24
Speaker 1: rules about alcohol. For example, you can't buy alcohol if're
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Speaker 1: under the age of twenty one, and there's a multitude
1:05:29
Speaker 1: of laws like that. Driving you got to be at
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Speaker 1: least fifteen sixteen years old fifteen and a half sixteen
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Speaker 1: years old to get driver's license. Those are state created laws.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason for them, because it presents a danger.
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Speaker 1: Young people should not drink alcohol. It's demonstrably bad for
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Speaker 1: even adults. Look at all the studies out there showing
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Speaker 1: how bad it is for you. And of course impaired
1:05:48
Speaker 1: children don't develop their cognitive functions. Are impaired kids aren't
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Speaker 1: allowed to smoke weed either, although we know they do.
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Speaker 1: They get it. But social media has proven to be
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Speaker 1: so monstrably bad for children, psychologically devastating in many cases,
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Speaker 1: it's a drug in and of itself. That the fact
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Speaker 1: that there is social media addiction. At least adults should
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Speaker 1: be in a position to make an informed choice because
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Speaker 1: they have the well hopefully building blocks of life to
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Speaker 1: allow them to be aware of the dangers of social
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Speaker 1: media and the responsibilities of an adult. Hopefully you have
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Speaker 1: a job and you can't spend all day on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: But when it is so bad for our children, should
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Speaker 1: we allow them to have it? I think it's a
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Speaker 1: legitimate topic of conversation six fifty six right now. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's what Jack Avidan wants to talk about.
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Speaker 1: The Big Picture with Jack Avanan after the top of
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Speaker 1: the air news Love and Terror, followed by Laurence Stewart,
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Speaker 1: who's summoned in for Donald and Neil from Americans for
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Speaker 1: Prosperity on something I talked about earlier this morning, the
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Speaker 1: Obamacare subsidies. Stick around for that, be right back. Today's
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Speaker 1: top headlines seven oh six A fifty five kr CE
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Speaker 1: detalk station. Happy Wednesday. It's a great day to be
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Speaker 1: tuned into fifty five cassee Morning Shore at the right time.
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Speaker 1: It is time everyone's here at this moment. Big Picture
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Speaker 1: with Jack Avidan, Dak Avidan. It is great for you
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Speaker 1: to be on the program from my perspective, but and
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Speaker 1: my listeners really enjoy your thoughts, comments and insight and intellect.
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Speaker 1: And I have no idea what you're going to be
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Speaker 1: talking about today, which is typically the case, but Love
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Speaker 1: and Terror, welcome back, Jack, appreciate you coming on the show.
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Speaker 8: I have no idea either. But happy holidays, my friend,
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Speaker 8: right that guys, you actually, let's talk about this. Christians
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Speaker 8: will soon celebrate Christmas, the birth of Jesus. Jews are
1:07:43
Speaker 8: about to break out menorah's and dradles to celebrate Hanukkah,
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Speaker 8: the rededication of the Temple in Jerusalem, and soon Muslims
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Speaker 8: will be marking the miraculous nighttime journey of the prophet
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Speaker 8: Mohammed from Mecca to Jerusalem and then up to Heaven
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Speaker 8: where he met Adam, Moses, and Jesus. So who couldn't
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Speaker 8: be filled with love this time of year? Here?
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Speaker 1: Let me look around me, Jack, at the multitude of
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Speaker 1: articles that I see where people clearly are not in
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Speaker 1: a festive holiday, love filled state of emotions.
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Speaker 8: I know I've heard some of your SCC non compliance.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know we all slipped.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, sadly, quite a few people who profess love
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Speaker 8: preach hate, even terror in their quest to regain power,
1:08:33
Speaker 8: like many in your great audience. I'm a child of
1:08:36
Speaker 8: the sixties, when hippies flashed peace signs. Actually, in places
1:08:41
Speaker 8: like hate Ashbury, they flashed a lot more than that.
1:08:43
Speaker 8: They flashed everything. The peace signs and peaceful sittings and
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Speaker 8: songs like All You Need Is Love, stopped the Vietnam War,
1:08:52
Speaker 8: They forced Lyndon Johnson out of the White House, supported
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Speaker 8: our new civil rights laws as well as women's and
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Speaker 8: gay rights move and perhaps most fun for teenagers like me,
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Speaker 8: the sexties gave us the sexual Revolution, but lurking within
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Speaker 8: the free Love, free pot communes from Berkeley to Woodstock
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Speaker 8: with something a lot more sinister, authoritarian, big government socialism.
1:09:19
Speaker 8: While everyone was singing Beatles tunes, a lot of kids
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Speaker 8: like Hillary Clinton and a little later Barack Obama, were
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Speaker 8: studying Herbert marcusa I don't know how many people remember him,
1:09:31
Speaker 8: but he was a disciple of Karl Marx. And they
1:09:34
Speaker 8: also studied Saul Alinsky, a disciple of Machiavelli, with his
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Speaker 8: ruthless devotion to ends justifying the means. When it comes
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Speaker 8: to securing power, The all You Need is Love. Hippie
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Speaker 8: revolution brought us Ivy League credentialed I don't say educated,
1:09:53
Speaker 8: just credentialed elite to talitarians now attacking the foundation of America,
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Speaker 8: limited decentralized government and Adam Smith capitalism based on free choice,
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Speaker 8: not mandates, free enterprise, and free but fair markets. It's
1:10:12
Speaker 8: that's where tariffs come in. We'll talk about that some
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Speaker 8: other time. We've seen this before, free love and the
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Speaker 8: demand for free stuff giving way to dictatorship. Ancient Rome
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Speaker 8: had what we'd now call proletarian rebellions. They led to
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Speaker 8: military strong men and then emperors. The French Revolution started
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Speaker 8: out with ordinary people demanding from aristocrats a place a
1:10:38
Speaker 8: seat in the National Assembly. The revolutionaries were called leftists
1:10:43
Speaker 8: because they took seats on the left side of the Assembly,
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Speaker 8: and they addressed each other as citizen, which is ironic
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Speaker 8: Brian since the last thing today's American leftists want to
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Speaker 8: call their supporters is citizen. Today's leftists support nonsense citizens
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Speaker 8: who broke our laws getting here. They demand welfare and
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Speaker 8: even voting rights. In at least fourteen jurisdictions and counting.
1:11:09
Speaker 8: They demand welfare and even voting rights. And the highest
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Speaker 8: title for today's leftists is not citizen. It's victim, as
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Speaker 8: in I'm a victim of racism, sexism, transphobia, and common sense.
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Speaker 8: The French revolutionaries tried to replace Christianity with what they
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Speaker 8: called a goddess of reason that was an actual person.
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Speaker 8: They found a beautiful woman, and she became the goddess
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Speaker 8: of reason. Then they replaced reason with the reign of terror.
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Speaker 8: Following the Romans, the French next made Napoleon Bonaparte their emperor.
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Speaker 8: His invasions cost Europe at least four million lives, but
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Speaker 8: Napoleon was a peace nick compared with Joseph Stalin. His
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Speaker 8: Soviet workers Paradise killed at least seven million people, some
1:11:59
Speaker 8: say triple that number. As with Napoleon, Stalin did not
1:12:03
Speaker 8: immediately seize power when Russia rose up against the Czar.
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Speaker 8: The Russian Revolution's first leader was a guy named Alexander Kerensky.
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Speaker 8: If you don't remember him, folks, it's because Kerensky's Russian
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Speaker 8: Republic lasted just three months. Communist revolutionaries then chased Kerensky
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Speaker 8: to Paris, then New York, and ultimately to our west coast.
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Speaker 8: The conservative Hoover Institution, which promotes liberty through limited government.
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Speaker 8: Kerensky's successor of Vladimir Lenin, did not promote limited government,
1:12:39
Speaker 8: and Lenin's successor, Joseph Stalin, did not promote any limits
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Speaker 8: at all on his own power. Now, Brian, there may
1:12:48
Speaker 8: be a few people listening who are now yelling, what
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Speaker 8: about Donald Trump, does he promote, does he tolerate, and
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Speaker 8: he limits to his own power? The answer is yes.
1:13:00
Speaker 8: Put aside for the moment, Trump's bombing of state sponsored
1:13:03
Speaker 8: narco terrorist drug boats were all eager to hear in
1:13:06
Speaker 8: a few minutes from Congressman Thomas Massey and Judge Neapolitano
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Speaker 8: about that, I would only note for now that whether
1:13:13
Speaker 8: it's Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary pirates, Reagan invading Grenada,
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Speaker 8: or Trump destroying Iran's nuclear program, We've had lots of
1:13:22
Speaker 8: debates about when and how Congress ought to weigh in,
1:13:26
Speaker 8: But Democrats did not complain when Barack Obama's drones killed
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Speaker 8: hundreds of foreigners without authorization, including women and children at weddings,
1:13:36
Speaker 8: even American citizens. Let's also consider a different but typical
1:13:41
Speaker 8: outrage from Joe Biden. The Auto pen completely ignored the
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Speaker 8: Supreme Court's ruling against the quote forgiveness of taxpayer funded
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Speaker 8: student loans, and Democrats defended him to the hilt. By contrast,
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump has submitted to courts everywhere from fat Alvin
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Speaker 8: Braggs New York and Fawnie Willis's Atlanta straight to the
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Speaker 8: US Supreme Court It's true Donald Trump does not preach
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Speaker 8: peace and love for the tens of millions of illegal
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Speaker 8: migrants that Joe Biden and his borders are Kamala Harris
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Speaker 8: invited to invade the United States. But again, Trump is
1:14:23
Speaker 8: submitting his deportation plans to the courts, where he wins
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Speaker 8: some and he loses some. Meantime, Trump has achieved peace
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Speaker 8: through strength, as Ronald Reagan did peace from Africa to Cambodia,
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Speaker 8: if we can keep it. Now he's trying to broke
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Speaker 8: her peace in Ukraine, which never would have been invaded
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Speaker 8: by Putin had Trump remained president in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 8: Trump is the real peace president, most important because he
1:14:53
Speaker 8: persuades nations to trade peacefully and fairly with the promise
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Speaker 8: of e economic growth. That's why Israel's Arab neighbors are
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Speaker 8: now willing to live peaceably.
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Speaker 1: Growth.
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Speaker 8: The promise of growth for all is Trump's gift to
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Speaker 8: the world this holiday season, and God willing, even Trump's
1:15:13
Speaker 8: enemies will realize that constitutional republics, not socialistic tactorships, are
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Speaker 8: the world's true blessing. What do you say, Paul Well?
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Speaker 1: First off, I must note that free love at least
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Speaker 1: didn't involve the American taxpayer dollars. Second, I don't know.
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Speaker 8: I don't know. Well, parents and taxpayers they paid taxes
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Speaker 8: to they supported those kids, and some of them still
1:15:37
Speaker 8: support those kids.
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Speaker 1: Now I understand that component of it. I'm just saying,
1:15:40
Speaker 1: at least didn't cost us money to engage in free love, unless,
1:15:43
Speaker 1: of course, you look to the medical ramifications of free
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Speaker 1: love and the fact that the American taxpayer dollars might
1:15:49
Speaker 1: have to end up paying for that, which in and
1:15:50
Speaker 1: of itself is a problem. But going back to my
1:15:52
Speaker 1: original thought along those lines, you mentioned the various religions
1:15:55
Speaker 1: with people are celebrating this time of year. Yes, and
1:15:58
Speaker 1: we all tend to embrace, at least from religious perspective,
1:16:01
Speaker 1: regardless of which religion you are, this idea that we
1:16:03
Speaker 1: need to engage in compassion and to help our brother
1:16:06
Speaker 1: man those are truly in need. But what bothers me,
1:16:08
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, the Marxists, the Leftists,
1:16:11
Speaker 1: the communists, the socialists all endeavor to use our respective
1:16:16
Speaker 1: faiths against us. Well, this is the Christian Judeo Christian ethic.
1:16:19
Speaker 1: You're supposed to help people in an effort to support
1:16:22
Speaker 1: some bloated government plan that we all find out is
1:16:24
Speaker 1: replete with fraud, waste, and abuse, which they don't seem
1:16:26
Speaker 1: to care about. That's the part that always angers me.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: And I've been on record many times saying if you're
1:16:31
Speaker 1: in a church or a synagogue or a mosque and
1:16:35
Speaker 1: someone in front of the room is saying you need
1:16:37
Speaker 1: to support some big blow to government program because Jesus
1:16:40
Speaker 1: or Mohammad or I don't know, it doesn't matter what
1:16:46
Speaker 1: would do that. That is your religious obligation. It belongs
1:16:49
Speaker 1: to the individual, not the state, and you're offloading the
1:16:51
Speaker 1: personal responsibility you have as a member of that particular
1:16:54
Speaker 1: religion to do it yourself. It doesn't substitute your personal obligation.
1:16:58
Speaker 1: And yet that feeling of the need to help is
1:17:01
Speaker 1: used so often against people of faith to promote some
1:17:05
Speaker 1: bloated government program that really doesn't accomplish the goal of
1:17:08
Speaker 1: helping people who are truly in need.
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Speaker 8: Well, we discussed this last week. Jesus was not about governments, right,
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Speaker 8: and we began today talking about these major religions, not
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Speaker 8: all of them in the world. They all began in love,
1:17:24
Speaker 8: but at some points in their history they had followers
1:17:26
Speaker 8: embracing terror. God loved his chosen people of Israel, but
1:17:31
Speaker 8: those sanctioned people asked for a king. They said, we
1:17:34
Speaker 8: want a king, like all the other nations. And inevitably,
1:17:37
Speaker 8: as with all other nations, kings proved to be power
1:17:40
Speaker 8: hungry and cruel. Just think of David and Bathsheba and
1:17:45
Speaker 8: Bathsheba's wrong husband Uriah. Jesus loved all people and refused
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Speaker 8: Satan's offer to rule over them on earth. He did
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Speaker 8: not want to be a king, But many other rulers,
1:17:58
Speaker 8: secular and ecclesiastics, all have imposed tyranny in the name
1:18:03
Speaker 8: of Jesus. You're right, and we've discussed several months ago
1:18:07
Speaker 8: now whether Islam requires violent jihad the sort that al
1:18:12
Speaker 8: Qaeda demanded. Listeners can hear that discussion about history. It
1:18:15
Speaker 8: went all the way back to the prophet Mohammad.
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Speaker 1: forward to having Americans for Prosperity on today. Not Donovan
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Speaker 1: and Eil, but Laurence Stewart. Should we sub it in
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Speaker 1: for Donald In the next segment, we're talking about something
1:20:43
Speaker 1: that's ongoing, Obamacare's subsidies. Will the Republicans vote to extend
1:20:47
Speaker 1: the subsidies? It's certainly a possibility. And I talked about
1:20:51
Speaker 1: this last week, and the boiled down thing is much
1:20:54
Speaker 1: like the Continuing Resolution where they kept funding at Democrat levels.
1:20:57
Speaker 1: So the Democrats didn't have an argument going into the
1:21:00
Speaker 1: shutdown about how the Republicans were going to cut this
1:21:03
Speaker 1: and cut that. They had nothing to argue about. And
1:21:06
Speaker 1: of course the shutdown ended with a promise that they
1:21:10
Speaker 1: will be voting on the extension of these subsidies. Now
1:21:13
Speaker 1: more Republicans are stepping up and seemingly embracing the idea
1:21:16
Speaker 1: of extending them. Why, because we're going into twenty twenty six,
1:21:23
Speaker 1: why would they capitulate on subsidies? Well, it gives the
1:21:25
Speaker 1: Democrats an argument Oh my god. Millions of people are
1:21:28
Speaker 1: going to lose their subsidies to be without health care.
1:21:30
Speaker 1: The problem is Obamacare, and as I pointed out earlier,
1:21:34
Speaker 1: so much fraud, wasted abuse is being revealed, as we'll
1:21:36
Speaker 1: talk about here in a moment. Even more that we're
1:21:39
Speaker 1: owed an obligation by ur elected officials, regardless of which
1:21:43
Speaker 1: way you go, crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse.
1:21:47
Speaker 1: Everyone benefits from that. There's billions and billions of dollars
1:21:53
Speaker 1: in various programs that have been recently identified, just scratching
1:21:56
Speaker 1: the surface of where the money is going. They don't care.
1:22:01
Speaker 1: There's no follow up. We'll see what she has to say.
1:22:05
Speaker 1: That will be Lauren Stewart from Americans for Prosperity coming
1:22:08
Speaker 1: up next first Prestigion Wednesday. It's a time of the
1:22:12
Speaker 1: week normally hearing from Donald O'Neil from Americans for Prosperity.
1:22:15
Speaker 1: But you know what, Americans were prosperity filled with a
1:22:17
Speaker 1: bunch of great people. It's not just Donald o'nil. Today,
1:22:20
Speaker 1: Laurence Stewart joins the program from AFP, summon in for
1:22:23
Speaker 1: Donalvan and Neil to talk about Obamacare subsidies all the
1:22:26
Speaker 1: rage these days. As far as a topic, Laurence Stewart,
1:22:29
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to
1:22:31
Speaker 1: have you on.
1:22:33
Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to be on.
1:22:34
Speaker 11: I will do my best.
1:22:35
Speaker 1: I've got big shoes to.
1:22:36
Speaker 11: Follow with Donan.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna be fine. So listen. The Obamacare
1:22:43
Speaker 1: fraud is just absolutely insane. I brought back up a
1:22:47
Speaker 1: topic I talked about last week, this GAO report where
1:22:50
Speaker 1: they tested the Obamacare subsidies and found out that no
1:22:54
Speaker 1: one is minding the store. Now, I will acknowledge that
1:22:57
Speaker 1: there's some paper obligations. You're supposed to provide your income level,
1:23:01
Speaker 1: You're supposed to provide a proper Social Security number in
1:23:04
Speaker 1: order to get enrolled. YadA, YadA, YadA. No one's minding
1:23:07
Speaker 1: the store behind the scene. So these so called protections
1:23:11
Speaker 1: against fraud wasted abuse seem to exist on paper, But
1:23:14
Speaker 1: if someone isn't following up, people get the word and
1:23:17
Speaker 1: it ends up literally billions and billions of dollars. And
1:23:20
Speaker 1: the figures you have from Americans for prosperity, the under
1:23:25
Speaker 1: the recent expansions that costs the American taxpayers one hundred
1:23:28
Speaker 1: and twenty five billion dollars a year. A lot of
1:23:31
Speaker 1: it is fraud, wasted abuse. I think we're owed in
1:23:36
Speaker 1: obligation to mind the store, and we boil it down
1:23:39
Speaker 1: on the along those simplistic terms. But let's listen to that.
1:23:42
Speaker 1: Let's talk the reasons. Why Why were there Why was
1:23:46
Speaker 1: there a waiver on the income eligibility cap of sixty
1:23:49
Speaker 1: two to five? It was COVID, right, yes, yeah.
1:23:54
Speaker 11: So that's the first thing to understand about what we
1:23:58
Speaker 11: call the bid in COVID credits. Was this was a
1:24:00
Speaker 11: temporary or supposedly right nothing. Ronald Reagan says nothing lasts
1:24:05
Speaker 11: as long as a temporary government program, and I think
1:24:07
Speaker 11: we're seeing them sit that at play here. But these
1:24:10
Speaker 11: are meant to be a temporary emergency provision during the
1:24:13
Speaker 11: COVID pandemic. I don't think we can point to a
1:24:17
Speaker 11: single COVID policy that was worthwhile. This is certainly example
1:24:22
Speaker 11: of that. To get more people in roles in Obamacare,
1:24:26
Speaker 11: the method was, you know, provide support for people who
1:24:28
Speaker 11: are maybe losing their jobs and need health insurance. But
1:24:32
Speaker 11: to your point, no one was minding the store. I
1:24:34
Speaker 11: ordered takeout last night and had to do two step
1:24:37
Speaker 11: verification to get my pizza delivered to my front door.
1:24:40
Speaker 11: Yet on the ACA there are thousands of invalid and
1:24:45
Speaker 11: non existent Social Security numbers that are receiving subsidized health coverage.
1:24:50
Speaker 11: And you might say, how are they receiving it if
1:24:52
Speaker 11: they're not people including the fifty eight thousand social securities
1:24:56
Speaker 11: of deceased and rolies. Well, the assurance company are receiving
1:25:00
Speaker 11: these subsidies and just banking them because they're not actually
1:25:03
Speaker 11: providing any healthcare or coverage for these hypothetical people. Another
1:25:09
Speaker 11: example that's still illustrated in this is one single social
1:25:12
Speaker 11: Security number appeared on over one hundred and twenty policies
1:25:16
Speaker 11: and another was used for over seventy one years of coverage.
1:25:20
Speaker 11: And you cannot make this stuff up.
1:25:23
Speaker 1: No, you can't, and you know the lawyer on me
1:25:25
Speaker 1: immediately says, wait a second. The insurance companies are accepting
1:25:28
Speaker 1: this money but they're not using it in connection with
1:25:30
Speaker 1: someone's medical care, then maybe they're culpable in some legal sense.
1:25:35
Speaker 1: Maybe they should be brought to justice for accepting money
1:25:38
Speaker 1: and taking money when they knew full well that they
1:25:40
Speaker 1: weren't doing anything with the money except pocketing it.
1:25:44
Speaker 11: This is where government is too big right, and we
1:25:47
Speaker 11: hear this a lot across issues, But if the government
1:25:50
Speaker 11: is setting up a subsidy program, it's actually on them
1:25:53
Speaker 11: to fraud check and double check that people's Social Security
1:25:57
Speaker 11: numbers are correct. I mean, I would love for insurance
1:26:00
Speaker 11: to say, hey, we're making forty billion extra dollars a
1:26:03
Speaker 11: year based on fraud or the twenty four million in
1:26:06
Speaker 11: rollies that you guys are accounting for, only twelve million
1:26:10
Speaker 11: actually used their health insurance last year. The other half
1:26:13
Speaker 11: didn't have a single medical claim.
1:26:15
Speaker 12: Highly suspiciously.
1:26:17
Speaker 11: But if the government's going to get this big and
1:26:19
Speaker 11: think their fingernails this far into healthcare, it is on
1:26:22
Speaker 11: them to be responsible.
1:26:24
Speaker 4: And keep it up.
1:26:25
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, we know that
1:26:27
Speaker 11: government involvement in healthcare actually has driven up the cost
1:26:31
Speaker 11: for American patients and families tremendously. I mean, we're talking
1:26:34
Speaker 11: about premium increases over seventy five percent from Obamacare's implementation.
1:26:39
Speaker 11: So ideally, if the government's going to do something, they're
1:26:43
Speaker 11: going to fraud check themselves because it's actually coming out
1:26:45
Speaker 11: of their bank account the United States Treasury.
1:26:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're in lies the rub and no one's
1:26:53
Speaker 1: government seems to really care that there's fraud wasted abuse
1:26:56
Speaker 1: because they can print money and they don't have a
1:26:58
Speaker 1: fiduciary obligation the American taxpayer. There's a number of other
1:27:02
Speaker 1: points we need to go over on this because there
1:27:04
Speaker 1: is just insane amounts of holes and problems with this
1:27:07
Speaker 1: Obamacare things. Let's pause. We will bring Lauren Stewart from
1:27:10
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity doing an admirable job this morning station
1:27:14
Speaker 1: seven forty here if if you have kc DE talk station. No,
1:27:17
Speaker 1: it's not Donald and Neil for Americans for Prosperity, it's
1:27:20
Speaker 1: Laurence Stewart. We're running through the multiple reasons to let
1:27:23
Speaker 1: Biden's COVID credits expire. Lauren, I must observe as I
1:27:26
Speaker 1: have multiple many times, and my listeners maybe know what's coming.
1:27:30
Speaker 1: As we went into the shutdown, the Republicans agree to
1:27:33
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four spending levels to deprive the Democrats
1:27:35
Speaker 1: of an argument about cuts. Those evil Republicans are gonna
1:27:38
Speaker 1: cut so it makes their argument about what they wanted,
1:27:41
Speaker 1: you know, a little more plausible. No, we're keeping funding
1:27:44
Speaker 1: levels at the Biden ear You've got nothing to complain about.
1:27:46
Speaker 1: You're the one that put the expiration of the subsidies
1:27:49
Speaker 1: in place end of December. We're gonna let that happen.
1:27:52
Speaker 1: COVID's over. So lots of great reasons or arguments to
1:27:55
Speaker 1: defeat what the Democrats wanted. But here we are again.
1:27:58
Speaker 1: They're teeing up this subsidies again, and we got more
1:28:01
Speaker 1: Republicans now thinking about, well, maybe go ahead and do that.
1:28:05
Speaker 1: Let's continue the subsidies until we get past twenty twenty six,
1:28:09
Speaker 1: because the Democrats going to be screaming and yelling about
1:28:11
Speaker 1: the evil Republicans taking away medical insurance from millions of Americans.
1:28:15
Speaker 1: They got that political argument staring in the face. So, Lauren,
1:28:18
Speaker 1: what's the alternative? They can't even get the twelve Appropriations
1:28:22
Speaker 1: bill passed by the deadline, which has been extended. How
1:28:24
Speaker 1: are they going to get in a fix to this
1:28:27
Speaker 1: massive problem before the subsidies expire, before a vote on
1:28:30
Speaker 1: the subsidies. I don't see that as even possible. Where
1:28:33
Speaker 1: are we, Lauren?
1:28:35
Speaker 3: So?
1:28:36
Speaker 11: Number one, a way to lower costs for Americans on
1:28:40
Speaker 11: the Affordable Care Act and outside of the Affordable Care
1:28:43
Speaker 11: Act is to allow the Biden COVID credits to expire.
1:28:46
Speaker 13: These COVID credits.
1:28:48
Speaker 11: Drive up inflationary healthcare costs for folks with in the ACA.
1:28:52
Speaker 11: Here's what we're talking about. For folks in the ACA,
1:28:55
Speaker 11: over a third of their medical claims are denied nineteen
1:28:59
Speaker 11: thousand dollars and out of pocket costs. So we need
1:29:02
Speaker 11: these Biden COVID credits to go a way just to
1:29:04
Speaker 11: bring down those numbers within the ACA. Furthermore, whatever the
1:29:07
Speaker 11: government subsidizes, the rest of us have to increase our
1:29:10
Speaker 11: payment on to pay for our own health insurance and
1:29:14
Speaker 11: then also for these subsidies. So Number one, what they
1:29:16
Speaker 11: need to do. What is the most important fix Congress
1:29:19
Speaker 11: can do right now regarding the Biden COVID credits is nothing.
1:29:22
Speaker 12: They're set to expire.
1:29:25
Speaker 11: Let them expire. Number two, there are real reforms and
1:29:29
Speaker 11: other options out there that are led by conservatives. Now,
1:29:32
Speaker 11: do I think they get to the president's death by
1:29:34
Speaker 11: the end of the year. I don't think so, but
1:29:36
Speaker 11: that would be wonderful and I'm not rolling anything out
1:29:39
Speaker 11: to Christmas season, so we'll see. But these conservative Republican
1:29:44
Speaker 11: lead proposals emphasize on the real crux of the issue
1:29:48
Speaker 11: here in healthcare, and that's lowering costs and increasing access.
1:29:51
Speaker 11: So you see alternatives like the Casipy Craboats proposal, which
1:29:56
Speaker 11: focuses on funding patients not in turance companies, similar with
1:30:01
Speaker 11: other proposals in the House of Representatives that expand tools
1:30:05
Speaker 11: like health Saman's accounts. You're able to put away your
1:30:07
Speaker 11: own tax advantage dollars to use for qualified medical expenses.
1:30:11
Speaker 11: Anything you pay for with the NHSA is already fifteen
1:30:15
Speaker 11: to seventeen percent cheaper right off the top because of
1:30:17
Speaker 11: the tax advantage. Let alone that in some instances it
1:30:20
Speaker 11: is actually faster and more affordable to self pay for
1:30:24
Speaker 11: various aspects in healthcare. So what's different about this healthcare
1:30:30
Speaker 11: fight is than say the implementation of Obamacare or even
1:30:34
Speaker 11: repail in our places, that there are a number of
1:30:36
Speaker 11: other conservative lead solutions that do drive down cost, increase access,
1:30:41
Speaker 11: and really work to empower patients, not the system and
1:30:44
Speaker 11: not the government in healthcare.
1:30:46
Speaker 4: So what is ahead is.
1:30:47
Speaker 11: Really looking at who stands for what on that leader
1:30:51
Speaker 11: soon tomorrow is going to put the Schumer three year
1:30:54
Speaker 11: clean extension. Democrats are AOK with fifty eight thousand deceased
1:30:58
Speaker 11: and rollers getting care, twelve million enrollies not using their
1:31:03
Speaker 11: medical care all of the fraud, waste and abuse that
1:31:05
Speaker 11: comes with these Biden COVID credits leaders. Soon is going
1:31:09
Speaker 11: to give Democrats the opportunity to vote in favor of
1:31:11
Speaker 11: a three year clean extension. He's also going to put
1:31:15
Speaker 11: a solution on the floor that is a really great
1:31:19
Speaker 11: line in the sand and framework for conservative care that
1:31:22
Speaker 11: Cassidy Crepo plan. Now it is brand new, a lot
1:31:26
Speaker 11: of senators that are going to want to offer their feedback,
1:31:28
Speaker 11: but we'll be able to see what side law make
1:31:31
Speaker 11: your stand on in terms of you know, what are
1:31:34
Speaker 11: we for here? Are we for funding patients or are
1:31:36
Speaker 11: we for funding insurance and keeping up with the status
1:31:39
Speaker 11: quot that quite frankly, twenty twenty four are voters rejected
1:31:42
Speaker 11: swiftly with the election of both Republican majorities and President Trump.
1:31:48
Speaker 1: Well, I am painfully where there's a private medical insurance
1:31:51
Speaker 1: market out There's hundreds of medical insurance providers out there
1:31:54
Speaker 1: that are not Obamacare. If we have the right to
1:31:57
Speaker 1: exercise our free choice when it comes to selecting policies.
1:32:00
Speaker 1: I do commercials for a guy who does that. He's
1:32:02
Speaker 1: a broker. He works with hundreds of insurance companies. You
1:32:04
Speaker 1: go in he finds a package of policies that fit you,
1:32:07
Speaker 1: you can afford it. You get dollar one coverage. It's
1:32:10
Speaker 1: a lot less than Obamacare with a ten thousand, five
1:32:12
Speaker 1: hundred dollars out of pocket liability. It's just that most
1:32:14
Speaker 1: people aren't aware of the private market out there. They've
1:32:16
Speaker 1: been sold this bill of goods that you either get
1:32:18
Speaker 1: your employee sponsored program or you go on Obamacare. No,
1:32:22
Speaker 1: there's a lot of options in the world, and it
1:32:24
Speaker 1: seems to me a little bit of more education in
1:32:26
Speaker 1: marketing along those lines might go a long way to
1:32:28
Speaker 1: save people money.
1:32:29
Speaker 3: Right now, you're absolutely right.
1:32:33
Speaker 11: The innovations we have in healthcare and health insurance are
1:32:36
Speaker 11: at an all time peak, and the folks who have
1:32:39
Speaker 11: access to those are beyond blessed and beyond statisfied that
1:32:43
Speaker 11: they're out of the status quo vicious cycle of regular
1:32:46
Speaker 11: health insurance. The interesting component to that, and what we're
1:32:50
Speaker 11: seeing in terms of the Biden COVID credits and the
1:32:52
Speaker 11: difference in how it affects various states, is that some
1:32:55
Speaker 11: states actually outlawed those additional options. Some states, especially Blue State,
1:33:00
Speaker 11: have worked very hard to consolidate their health insurance market
1:33:02
Speaker 11: so that people actually don't have access to that. So,
1:33:05
Speaker 11: for instance my home state of Massachusetts, sure you can
1:33:09
Speaker 11: have an HSA, but you cannot use an HSA for
1:33:12
Speaker 11: anything that your insurance would cover. So literally, you have
1:33:16
Speaker 11: bluestates telling people what they can and cannot use their
1:33:19
Speaker 11: own hard earned dollars noo of healthcare.
1:33:23
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, just look, listeners, just process that.
1:33:28
Speaker 1: It's your money placed in your own health savings account,
1:33:31
Speaker 1: and they're telling you what you can and can't spend
1:33:33
Speaker 1: it on. If that money wasn't a health savings account,
1:33:35
Speaker 1: you can spend your money any damn way you want.
1:33:37
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's an HSA, so you can't. I'm sorry.
1:33:43
Speaker 1: That's just wrong. And the reason is they want you
1:33:47
Speaker 1: to have to default to Obamacare. I mean, I know
1:33:49
Speaker 1: in the AFP Americans for Prosperity notes, millions abandoned their
1:33:52
Speaker 1: existing coverage in order to go for this quote unquote
1:33:55
Speaker 1: free option because the subsidies made it appeared free. But
1:33:59
Speaker 1: that mere encourage dependency on the government program, which is
1:34:02
Speaker 1: exactly what the Democrats want. This is the stepping block
1:34:06
Speaker 1: or stepping stone to Medicaid for all Obamacare is, and
1:34:10
Speaker 1: that's the direction they want to go. They want to
1:34:11
Speaker 1: deprive you of all the other options that exist.
1:34:13
Speaker 11: Right now, that's one hundred percent right. The reason they
1:34:17
Speaker 11: want to deprive you of all of even having access
1:34:19
Speaker 11: to those options is because they're better, right, And given opportunity,
1:34:23
Speaker 11: you're not going to choose Obamacare. You're going to choose
1:34:26
Speaker 11: something or you don't.
1:34:27
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe you are.
1:34:28
Speaker 11: At AFP, We're we're not advocating for a repeal and
1:34:31
Speaker 11: replace Obamacare. We're advocating for strong, swift reforms. But we
1:34:36
Speaker 11: believe all Americans to have a personal option when it
1:34:38
Speaker 11: comes to their healthcare. Healthcare happens to be I think
1:34:41
Speaker 11: the most personal thing I think about with my family,
1:34:45
Speaker 11: especially as a new mom, I kind of run the
1:34:46
Speaker 11: traps on our health care and I want to make
1:34:49
Speaker 11: sure that myself, my husband, my son, and my dog,
1:34:55
Speaker 11: although a little bit separate, there have all of the
1:34:58
Speaker 11: access and options that that we would like. So maybe
1:35:01
Speaker 11: for a family, maybe my neighbors across the street are like,
1:35:03
Speaker 11: I really like my Obamacare plan. I haven't met anyone
1:35:06
Speaker 11: who's said that just stick caveat there, But we want
1:35:10
Speaker 11: you to be able to use the health insurance to
1:35:12
Speaker 11: drive the healthcare that that fits the needs of you
1:35:15
Speaker 11: and your family. No one single family has the family
1:35:17
Speaker 11: exact needs as another one, So crowding out all of
1:35:20
Speaker 11: these options that really speak to that in different combinations
1:35:24
Speaker 11: of options is, like you said, a move to centralized
1:35:27
Speaker 11: and socialized healthcare single payer. We believe there shouldn't be
1:35:30
Speaker 11: a public option, there should be a personal option.
1:35:33
Speaker 1: We all know the world of competition creates more efficiencies
1:35:37
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Speaker 1: means we're talking about Congressman Thomas Massey right now, followed
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Speaker 1: of the hour to talk about the budget. Welcome back
1:37:53
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey. Thank you for coming on the Morning
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Speaker 1: showing in advance. Happy Merry Christmas to you and your family.
1:37:59
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
1:38:01
Speaker 4: Great to be back on with you. Brian, all right, we.
1:38:03
Speaker 1: Haven't been talking about it much here in the Morning Show,
1:38:05
Speaker 1: but let's start with the January sixth pipe bomber. No,
1:38:09
Speaker 1: it's not Erkele from Family Matters. It's Brian Cole Junior,
1:38:12
Speaker 1: thirty years old. So what was all the brand new
1:38:16
Speaker 1: evidence and what's the diligent efforts that the Trump administration
1:38:20
Speaker 1: engaged in to catch this guy that the Biden administration
1:38:23
Speaker 1: apparently didn't do. From everything I've gathered, there was nothing.
1:38:26
Speaker 1: There were no new tips, no new evidence. They just
1:38:28
Speaker 1: put together what they had and processed it and found
1:38:31
Speaker 1: out where he is. Do I am I missing something,
1:38:33
Speaker 1: Congressman Massey, No, the.
1:38:36
Speaker 4: Story still does not add up. And there's no way
1:38:39
Speaker 4: they're going to make me believe that this autistic allegedly
1:38:44
Speaker 4: according to his family, he's autistic, That this autistic kid
1:38:48
Speaker 4: he also happens to be African American living in his
1:38:53
Speaker 4: you know, family's basement. They're liberals, they're trying to make
1:38:59
Speaker 4: you believe. At least the news is right now that
1:39:02
Speaker 4: this guy confessed to being a Trump supporter and that
1:39:06
Speaker 4: he placed these pipe bombs, that he masterminded this pipe
1:39:09
Speaker 4: bomb attack on January sixth on the Capitol. Remember this
1:39:13
Speaker 4: of five years ago. I'm not buying it. I do
1:39:17
Speaker 4: not believe an autistic black kid in his parents' basement
1:39:21
Speaker 4: evaded the FBI for five years and masterminded this and
1:39:25
Speaker 4: built these pipe bombs by himself. Could he have been
1:39:29
Speaker 4: a patsy? Could he have been part of this overall conspiracy, Yes,
1:39:36
Speaker 4: could have been. But right now the evidence is then
1:39:40
Speaker 4: what they've presented so far, and they've got some cell
1:39:42
Speaker 4: phone pings, and here's why I don't believe it, Brian.
1:39:47
Speaker 4: I sat in the room. I was part of a
1:39:49
Speaker 4: deposition of the FBI guy who was in charge of
1:39:52
Speaker 4: the Washington Field office when January sixth happened, and he
1:39:56
Speaker 4: was in charge of the investigation to find out who
1:39:58
Speaker 4: the pipe bomber was. But guess what his resume includes.
1:40:02
Speaker 4: Just a few months before, he had been transferred from Michigan,
1:40:06
Speaker 4: where he oversaw the FBI fed napping case of Governor Whitmer.
1:40:12
Speaker 4: Remember they had some not the brightest citizens in the world.
1:40:16
Speaker 4: They had entrapped them, most of the people involved in
1:40:19
Speaker 4: that kidnapping case. Where FBI informants are agents. Well, he
1:40:26
Speaker 4: comes from that office, he comes to DC. He's there
1:40:30
Speaker 4: when January sixth happens. He's overseeing all the FBI in Washington,
1:40:34
Speaker 4: d C. He's overseeing the investigation. We call him in
1:40:37
Speaker 4: when we get the majority, because remember the Democrats were
1:40:41
Speaker 4: in the majority for a while Nancy Pelosi was running things.
1:40:44
Speaker 4: When we get the majority, Jim Jordan calls him in
1:40:47
Speaker 4: to ask him about the raid on mar Lago, which
1:40:49
Speaker 4: he also oversaw. And I asked, Jordan, Hey, could I
1:40:52
Speaker 4: pop in while you're doing the transcribed interview and ask
1:40:55
Speaker 4: him some questions about January sixth. He says sure. So
1:40:59
Speaker 4: I go into the transubscribed interview and I asked him,
1:41:01
Speaker 4: why haven't you guys used cell phone pings? We got
1:41:04
Speaker 4: video of the pipe bomber placing bombs allegedly on January fifth.
1:41:10
Speaker 4: Now he wore a mask or she wore a mask
1:41:12
Speaker 4: and glasses and a hood, so we couldn't identify the person.
1:41:17
Speaker 4: But you've got cell phone pings of this person. How
1:41:20
Speaker 4: come you haven't identified him for her? And he said
1:41:23
Speaker 4: the cell phone data was corrupted. So here's the problem
1:41:29
Speaker 4: with that. We go to the cell phone providers and
1:41:31
Speaker 4: they all of them said no, their data was not corrupted.
1:41:36
Speaker 4: So this is one reason I'm skeptical. Brand is I
1:41:42
Speaker 4: had the assistant FBI director in charge of the Washington
1:41:45
Speaker 4: Field office just lie to me in a transcribed interview
1:41:48
Speaker 4: where he was under oath, and here they are, five
1:41:53
Speaker 4: years later, they're saying their strongest case is the cell
1:41:55
Speaker 4: phone pings to identify this this guy in his basement.
1:42:03
Speaker 1: So were they lying to you then or lying to
1:42:05
Speaker 1: you now, Congress Ambassy?
1:42:08
Speaker 4: I think both. It is possible that it's both, So okay,
1:42:15
Speaker 4: So there's a lot more to this too. I don't
1:42:18
Speaker 4: know that we've got enough time on your show. It
1:42:20
Speaker 4: was my staffer who discovered how the second pipe bomb
1:42:24
Speaker 4: was found. He sifted through dozens of hours of video
1:42:27
Speaker 4: that weren't publicly available until we got them released, and
1:42:31
Speaker 4: he found out there was two counter surveillance police officers,
1:42:35
Speaker 4: Capitol Hill police officers who found the second pipe bomb
1:42:39
Speaker 4: within fifteen minutes of getting out of their car. They
1:42:42
Speaker 4: walked right to it and found it. And I thought
1:42:46
Speaker 4: that was very suspicious. I asked Christopher Ray in a hearing,
1:42:51
Speaker 4: have you interviewed these individuals? He couldn't give me a
1:42:55
Speaker 4: straight answer. I asked the Washington Field Office director if
1:42:59
Speaker 4: he if that person would be a suspect. He said,
1:43:02
Speaker 4: that's investigation one oh one, and so there's some suspicious
1:43:06
Speaker 4: stuff going on there. By the way, my former staffer
1:43:09
Speaker 4: was hired by the FBI and has been working on
1:43:13
Speaker 4: this case over there. So and then also I brought
1:43:19
Speaker 4: in the counter one of the two counter surveillance officers.
1:43:22
Speaker 4: They never let me talk to the other one, but
1:43:24
Speaker 4: one of them came to my office, not in a
1:43:27
Speaker 4: transcribed interview, but just as sort of a chat but
1:43:31
Speaker 4: they brought a handler for him who interrupted him frequently
1:43:36
Speaker 4: or clarified his answers, or wouldn't let him answer into
1:43:40
Speaker 4: my they brought the handler with him. The handler turns
1:43:43
Speaker 4: out to be the atf UH guy in charge of
1:43:48
Speaker 4: January sixth, who somehow migrated his way over to third
1:43:52
Speaker 4: in command at Capitol Hill Police. I suspect he was
1:43:58
Speaker 4: he worked his way into Capitol Hill par so that
1:44:00
Speaker 4: he could basically watch over this investigation as it played
1:44:05
Speaker 4: out and make sure that none of the Capitol Hill
1:44:07
Speaker 4: Police officers were implicated. Finally, there's a January sixth committee,
1:44:15
Speaker 4: you know, the bogus one the Democrats ran. Well, Barry
1:44:18
Speaker 4: Loudermilk represented. Barry Loudermilk convinced the Speaker and the White House.
1:44:22
Speaker 4: The White House had to fight to to get the
1:44:24
Speaker 4: Speaker to let him even set up this committee, which
1:44:27
Speaker 4: just blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know
1:44:29
Speaker 4: if there was some conspiracy, Yeah, to make the President
1:44:32
Speaker 4: and all of MAGA look bad like there was good,
1:44:34
Speaker 4: like there was an insurrection. Well, finally Barry Loudermilk gets
1:44:38
Speaker 4: the right to run this committee. It's a subcommittee, and
1:44:42
Speaker 4: I've been working with him and his staff. He's allowed
1:44:45
Speaker 4: to investigate anything except the Capitol Hill Police.
1:44:50
Speaker 1: Holy cow. You know we've talked about your inability to
1:44:54
Speaker 1: get information. You are oversight, You represent your constituents, you
1:44:58
Speaker 1: represent the American people. You were the one who is
1:45:00
Speaker 1: responsible for looking into these matters on behalf of the
1:45:03
Speaker 1: American people. This is just one more in a long, long,
1:45:06
Speaker 1: painfully long list of illustrations of them refusing to give
1:45:12
Speaker 1: you or anybody else access to information, whether it's physical
1:45:15
Speaker 1: information like video tape evidence. You can't talk to people
1:45:20
Speaker 1: these interferences with your ability to Q and A people
1:45:23
Speaker 1: who are behind the scenes and have the information. I mean,
1:45:27
Speaker 1: this is beyond I want to use the word troubling,
1:45:29
Speaker 1: but that just doesn't emphasize the problem enough.
1:45:32
Speaker 4: Congress from Massey, and when you talk about my authority
1:45:36
Speaker 4: or responsibility to do oversight, that's a particular responsibility because
1:45:41
Speaker 4: I'm on the judiciary right, we have oversight over FBI,
1:45:45
Speaker 4: DOOJ and ATF, which is why I have asked them
1:45:49
Speaker 4: all about January sixth and these public hearings. I asked
1:45:54
Speaker 4: agent or the FBI director Dental Bok if these pipe
1:45:58
Speaker 4: bombs were viable devices, could they have ever gone off?
1:46:02
Speaker 4: And they never got a straight answer from him. The
1:46:04
Speaker 4: reality is you can't set a pipe bomb off sixteen
1:46:07
Speaker 4: hours later with a sixty minute kitchen timer. These pipe
1:46:11
Speaker 4: bombs had like the little egg timers you see at Walmart,
1:46:15
Speaker 4: and so many people have them in their kitchens. That's was,
1:46:20
Speaker 4: you know. And the FBI story for five years has
1:46:25
Speaker 4: been that the bombs were set, you know, the night before,
1:46:28
Speaker 4: not the day of January sixth. There's so much of
1:46:32
Speaker 4: this that doesn't add up. There's also this new there's
1:46:36
Speaker 4: a couple new revelations that have come out in the
1:46:39
Speaker 4: last month. By the way, this is another suspicious thing.
1:46:43
Speaker 4: Barry Loudermilk's committee as well as an investigative journalist at
1:46:48
Speaker 4: The Blaze, came out with new information that implicated Capitol
1:46:53
Speaker 4: Hill Police. Two new pieces of information, and within a
1:46:58
Speaker 4: few weeks the FBI goes in. Now somebody that is
1:47:01
Speaker 4: allegedly autistic and evaded the FBI for five years. But
1:47:07
Speaker 4: the new information is that somebody used a Metro card
1:47:15
Speaker 4: and that belonged to a government employee. That Metro card
1:47:21
Speaker 4: had only been used twice on January fifth and January sixth,
1:47:25
Speaker 4: they've got this guy on video, and when they traced
1:47:29
Speaker 4: the Metro card owner, it turns out the FBI had
1:47:34
Speaker 4: staked this guy out for a week and then we're
1:47:36
Speaker 4: called off of it. But he lives next door to
1:47:39
Speaker 4: a Capitol Hill police officer that lives like twelve miles
1:47:43
Speaker 4: away from DC. We're not talking about two people that
1:47:46
Speaker 4: And when I say next door, they share a wall, Okay,
1:47:50
Speaker 4: and they it's crazy. But the FBI has video of
1:47:56
Speaker 4: the person who used that Metro card casing the law.
1:48:00
Speaker 4: So one of the locations that the pipe bomb was placed,
1:48:03
Speaker 4: he's there on January fifth taking pictures. I mean he
1:48:06
Speaker 4: gets on before he gets out of the subway, he
1:48:09
Speaker 4: puts on a hood, he puts on a mask, he
1:48:11
Speaker 4: puts on glasses so he can't see who it is,
1:48:15
Speaker 4: not glasses, but he puts on a totally different change.
1:48:18
Speaker 4: The f to I quit track in that person. Still
1:48:22
Speaker 4: to this day, Cash Patel doesn't have a a story
1:48:26
Speaker 4: for why they didn't keep going after that guy. Anyways,
1:48:30
Speaker 4: I know this is a lot of information to dump
1:48:32
Speaker 4: on your listeners. You can watch there's a video that
1:48:38
Speaker 4: Kyle Saraffin put out that goes over this there's a
1:48:41
Speaker 4: video on Free the People of Me and Steve Baker,
1:48:45
Speaker 4: who's the investigative journalist at The Blaze. We spent about
1:48:48
Speaker 4: an hour talking about in this case, and I'm going
1:48:50
Speaker 4: to do another interview today for about an hour going
1:48:53
Speaker 4: through the state of play with this case. But the
1:48:57
Speaker 4: reason your listeners should care is this may have been
1:49:01
Speaker 4: a conspiracy by the left that involved parts of our
1:49:06
Speaker 4: government who either it's it's no longer possible to believe
1:49:12
Speaker 4: that they were this inept because they've they've been lying.
1:49:18
Speaker 4: This may have been a conspiracy to incite a riot
1:49:23
Speaker 4: at the Capitol or to make it or to make
1:49:26
Speaker 4: it look like President Trump was part of this, and
1:49:31
Speaker 4: to discredit the entire right continuing. Yes, one last thing.
1:49:40
Speaker 4: The prosecutor they put in charge of this case this
1:49:43
Speaker 4: week is the one who tried to prosecute General Michael
1:49:48
Speaker 4: Flynn and the one who tried to get false, false
1:49:54
Speaker 4: confessions from the Proud Boy. She convicted the Proud Boys.
1:49:58
Speaker 4: She's notorious for dealing with altered evidence in order to
1:50:06
Speaker 4: convict people and Trump's sphere, and the deal she offered
1:50:09
Speaker 4: to one of the Proud Boys was if you'll implicate
1:50:12
Speaker 4: President Trump, will give you a lighter sentence. Why the
1:50:16
Speaker 4: heck is she still working at thee OJ and why
1:50:19
Speaker 4: did they put her on this case?
1:50:21
Speaker 8: Yeah?
1:50:21
Speaker 1: Who's in charge of that?
1:50:24
Speaker 4: I mean you would think it would be Pam Bondy.
1:50:26
Speaker 1: Yep, you would think apparently not. Congres from Thomas Massey Frightening,
1:50:31
Speaker 1: frightening revelations this morning, we'll continue with Congress from Massey.
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Speaker 1: you follow by Joe Jenner Polatano. Since Judge and Polatana
1:50:51
Speaker 1: wants to talk about blowing up drug smugglers fifteen hundred miles, well,
1:50:53
Speaker 1: I'll bring it up your attention. I know you and Massey,
1:50:56
Speaker 1: are you and Napolitano and even I feel on the
1:50:59
Speaker 1: same side on that. I'm worried. And now Donald Trump's
1:51:03
Speaker 1: talking about dropping bombs on Venezuela. Congressman Thomas mess it
1:51:06
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be up for a vote.
1:51:08
Speaker 1: Do we need an authorization and use of military force.
1:51:11
Speaker 1: Do we need a declaration of war? What happens if
1:51:13
Speaker 1: neither of those passes were kind of status quo, which
1:51:16
Speaker 1: means Donald Trump's going to continue bombing Congressman, Well, there should.
1:51:20
Speaker 4: Be a vote on it, and there hasn't been a
1:51:22
Speaker 4: vote on it. Even with the isolated incidents of killing
1:51:28
Speaker 4: let's say Solomony or other terrorists or people associate with terrorists,
1:51:33
Speaker 4: they're operating off of two thousand and one AUMF that
1:51:36
Speaker 4: authorized I'll put in quotes air quotes authorized global war
1:51:41
Speaker 4: on terror. But you have to be al Qaeda or
1:51:44
Speaker 4: an associate of al Qaeda to be covered by that
1:51:47
Speaker 4: global war on terror. There is no AUMF authorization use
1:51:51
Speaker 4: of military force that's been passed by Congress to authorize
1:51:54
Speaker 4: attax on Venezuela or its proxies. It just doesn't exist.
1:51:59
Speaker 4: And the problem with what's going on right now, you know,
1:52:05
Speaker 4: there's a whole controversy over the double tap where they
1:52:08
Speaker 4: may have bombed a boat and there were a couple
1:52:10
Speaker 4: of survivors and they went back and killed the survivors.
1:52:14
Speaker 4: If this had been a true war, you know, let's
1:52:17
Speaker 4: say you were in Afghanistan, there was a convoy of
1:52:20
Speaker 4: terrorists with machine guns and you know, armored vehicles and bombs.
1:52:25
Speaker 4: And I've talked to some of my military friends. They say, yeah,
1:52:29
Speaker 4: we would we go back and clean up, and if
1:52:31
Speaker 4: we didn't get all the terrorists in that convoy, we
1:52:33
Speaker 4: go back and kill the rest of them or enemy
1:52:37
Speaker 4: combatants for instance. But this is different. What they've done
1:52:42
Speaker 4: is they've blurred the line between the police action and
1:52:45
Speaker 4: a military action. They're not saying that these people had
1:52:48
Speaker 4: guns on the boats and that there was an imminent
1:52:51
Speaker 4: threat that they could get up and pick up a
1:52:53
Speaker 4: gun and shoot the plane or whatever. And so I
1:52:57
Speaker 4: think that's where we're running into the the moral, the
1:53:00
Speaker 4: ethical and the legal issues is they're trying to take
1:53:04
Speaker 4: something which is ostensibly a police action, which is to
1:53:08
Speaker 4: stop drugs from being run, and turn it into a
1:53:11
Speaker 4: military action. And that with the bigger problem here is
1:53:16
Speaker 4: they want regime change in Venezuela. And this is probably
1:53:20
Speaker 4: more about overthrowing a country or a or a leader
1:53:25
Speaker 4: of a country, whether he be a dictator or not,
1:53:28
Speaker 4: than it is about stopping the flow of drugs. If
1:53:31
Speaker 4: it's about stopping the flow of drugs, and you could
1:53:34
Speaker 4: bomb any boat that had drugs on it would be
1:53:36
Speaker 4: bombing the posts from China to Mexico that carry the
1:53:39
Speaker 4: precursors of ventanyl.
1:53:42
Speaker 1: Yes, but you see, they're a military power that has
1:53:44
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and a very strong military, and we've got
1:53:47
Speaker 1: a lot of geopolitical realities to deal with with China,
1:53:50
Speaker 1: so there's no way in hell we're going to touch them.
1:53:52
Speaker 1: But you go to Venezuela, where there's very barely an
1:53:55
Speaker 1: army you could call, or a military you could even
1:53:57
Speaker 1: call a standing military. Apparently there's so ill equis and
1:54:00
Speaker 1: poorly trained, and they've lost a lot of their global
1:54:03
Speaker 1: support Venezuela has, so you're it's an easy target.
1:54:08
Speaker 4: So yes, and and just to close this out, I
1:54:11
Speaker 4: don't know that there will be a vote on it,
1:54:13
Speaker 4: but I'm trying to force a vote. I have co
1:54:15
Speaker 4: sponsored a War Powers Act here in Congress to say
1:54:20
Speaker 4: that you either have to withdraw hostilities against Venezuela or
1:54:24
Speaker 4: you've got to get an authorization from Congress. That's just
1:54:28
Speaker 4: like constitutional common sense. So I've co sponsored that, and
1:54:32
Speaker 4: there's a good chance we can force a vote on
1:54:35
Speaker 4: that because there are parliamentary procedures that let you do that.
1:54:38
Speaker 4: Speaking of forcing a vote. I know, we just have
1:54:41
Speaker 4: a few minutes. I wanted to give you an up
1:54:43
Speaker 4: date on the Epstein file. Oh yeah, Transparency Act. Okay,
1:54:48
Speaker 4: So we got that passed in the House. Everybody opposed
1:54:52
Speaker 4: me until they saw I was going to win, and
1:54:54
Speaker 4: the vote was four hundred and twenty seven to one.
1:54:57
Speaker 4: The Senate has never passed a bill so quickly. In fact,
1:55:00
Speaker 4: they passed my bill before it got there. They made
1:55:03
Speaker 4: a unanimous consent to say, as soon as Massey's bill
1:55:06
Speaker 4: gets to the Senate, it's going to be passed already.
1:55:10
Speaker 4: So it went straight to the President's desk. They have
1:55:13
Speaker 4: until we gave them thirty days the DOJ and FBI
1:55:16
Speaker 4: to release this not to Congress, not to the Speaker,
1:55:19
Speaker 4: not to some chair of some committee, but to the
1:55:21
Speaker 4: public in a searchable format, not drips and drabs that
1:55:26
Speaker 4: you can't have to get AI to sort through. This
1:55:28
Speaker 4: has to be in a public, searchable format by December nineteenth.
1:55:33
Speaker 4: So they've got nine days to produce all the material.
1:55:38
Speaker 4: They are supposed to redact the child sexual material exploitation
1:55:45
Speaker 4: in two and the victims' names, but everything else has
1:55:49
Speaker 4: to be published within nine days. And two great things
1:55:54
Speaker 4: that have happened already. There are three cases that had
1:56:00
Speaker 4: grand jury material that was sealed. There was the original
1:56:03
Speaker 4: Epstein case in Florida, there was the Jlane Maxwell case,
1:56:07
Speaker 4: and then there's the second Epstein case that he went
1:56:11
Speaker 4: to prison for in New York. The DJ was told
1:56:16
Speaker 4: when they asked for the grand jury material to be
1:56:18
Speaker 4: released that the law wouldn't allow them to release it,
1:56:22
Speaker 4: and so the judges wouldn't release it. But the DJ,
1:56:26
Speaker 4: to their credit, went back to these courts and said,
1:56:28
Speaker 4: now that Massey's bill has passed, can.
1:56:30
Speaker 1: You release it?
1:56:32
Speaker 4: And two of the two of the three judges have
1:56:34
Speaker 4: said yes, we're gonna we're going to override like new
1:56:37
Speaker 4: laws override old laws. I think I've said this on
1:56:40
Speaker 4: your radio show before. This is just common sense too.
1:56:44
Speaker 4: People were like, well, you can't release grand jury material.
1:56:46
Speaker 4: I'm but this is a law and it overrides the
1:56:50
Speaker 4: old laws or the or even things that are just precedent.
1:56:53
Speaker 4: So two of the three judges have said, yeah, we're
1:56:56
Speaker 4: going to release the grand mature grand jury material. After
1:56:59
Speaker 4: we were dak victims' names. We'll give it to the
1:57:01
Speaker 4: DOJ so they'll be in possession of that. The third
1:57:04
Speaker 4: Judge just hasn't ruled yet. Well, and so that's that's
1:57:07
Speaker 4: the development, that's big, that's already happened.
1:57:10
Speaker 1: Popcorn has been out some people viewing this as a
1:57:12
Speaker 1: distraction from the broader problems, like, for example, bombing boats
1:57:15
Speaker 1: off coast of Venezuela and engaging in war without an
1:57:18
Speaker 1: authorization of youse some military force or a declaration judging.
1:57:22
Speaker 1: The Polatana is waiting in the wings. I threw that
1:57:24
Speaker 1: in there for his education. So Congressman Thomas Massey, a
1:57:30
Speaker 1: hello from Judge Jennen of Politano, and I will say
1:57:33
Speaker 1: hello from you to him as he's waving God bless you, sir.
1:57:37
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're doing. Keep up the great work,
1:57:39
Speaker 1: and let's get that information out there, most notably about
1:57:42
Speaker 1: the Jay six bomber man. That is scary stuff you
1:57:45
Speaker 1: brought to our attention this morning.
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Speaker 14: was tearing up just thinking about it. The judges next
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Speaker 14: chucking ram Month fifty five krs the talk station.
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Speaker 1: I think Massy's also got a giant discharge petition to
1:59:25
Speaker 1: get a vote on the authorization for you some military force.
1:59:28
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Judge Editor Politano.
1:59:31
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you. Brian chuck Is.
1:59:35
Speaker 13: You know he really puts time atto crafting these things.
1:59:38
Speaker 1: He he does quite often.
1:59:39
Speaker 14: Though.
1:59:40
Speaker 1: I will give Joe Stracker credit because Joe helped me
1:59:42
Speaker 1: along the way, because you know, he's busy doing the
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Speaker 1: traffic for like nine thousand cities across this great land
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Speaker 1: of ours that are serviced by iHeartMedia, so we'll share
1:59:52
Speaker 1: the love. But he certainly does a great job delivering
1:59:54
Speaker 1: on it, Judge Enita Politano, and I was we had
1:59:58
Speaker 1: more topics to talk about with Congressman Massy. I wanted
2:00:00
Speaker 1: to get into that blowing up drug smuggler thing because
2:00:03
Speaker 1: you Senator Ran Paul. Of course, Congressman Massey and I
2:00:08
Speaker 1: seem to be the lone three four five total people
2:00:12
Speaker 1: in the world. You think there's a problem with blowing
2:00:14
Speaker 1: up boats off of Venezuela. You and I have talked
2:00:18
Speaker 1: about authorization, youse some military force. We think we're on
2:00:22
Speaker 1: questionable constitutional grounds because there's no reference to the AUMs
2:00:26
Speaker 1: in the Constitution. You either have a declaration of war
2:00:29
Speaker 1: or you don't, or it falls within like an emergency power.
2:00:32
Speaker 1: Donald Trump sees the troops coming at us over the
2:00:34
Speaker 1: horizon and needs to act right away as commander in chief.
2:00:38
Speaker 1: You and I agree. Congressom Massy agrees that ain't what's
2:00:42
Speaker 1: going on with fifteen hundred miles away boats that may
2:00:46
Speaker 1: may have drugs on them.
2:00:48
Speaker 13: And even the Democrats. I was moved by Congressman Jim Himes.
2:00:53
Speaker 13: I don't really agree with him un much, but he
2:00:55
Speaker 13: was visibly shaken by what he observed and he saw
2:01:00
Speaker 13: the two survivors obliterated. But even the Democrats are not
2:01:05
Speaker 13: complaining about the whole project, aha, the entire concept. They're
2:01:10
Speaker 13: just complaining about killing the survivors. All of this killing
2:01:15
Speaker 13: is unconstitutional and criminal. There is no legal basis for it.
2:01:20
Speaker 13: The government knows that, and it refuses to release It's
2:01:24
Speaker 13: so called authority to do so.
2:01:26
Speaker 1: Well, as Congressmanski just got done pointing out all these
2:01:30
Speaker 1: extra judicial killings, the ones done by Obama. And you
2:01:33
Speaker 1: know that we could go on and on because you
2:01:34
Speaker 1: bring them up regularly, including the killing of American citizen
2:01:38
Speaker 1: overseas done under the twenty two thousand and one authorization
2:01:41
Speaker 1: for used military force to go after Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
2:01:45
Speaker 1: Broad leeway there, They're everywhere you can find them. But
2:01:48
Speaker 1: I don't think that Venezuela and Narco folks are fundamentalist
2:01:52
Speaker 1: Muslim terrorists, so you can't put it under that AUMF.
2:01:55
Speaker 1: So you need a new one that allows us to
2:01:57
Speaker 1: wage a war against I guess when the President and
2:02:00
Speaker 1: says Narco terrorist, they're Narco terrorists. But if they are,
2:02:03
Speaker 1: then you need a specific authorization to go after those
2:02:06
Speaker 1: in the way we're going after them, right, correct.
2:02:08
Speaker 13: Correct, There is no such an authorization. Listen, I'm I'm
2:02:12
Speaker 13: with Senator Paull, Congressman Massey, and you on this. The
2:02:16
Speaker 13: AUMFS authorizations for use of military force are unconstitutional. They're
2:02:21
Speaker 13: unrecognized by the Constitution because they don't have an end
2:02:27
Speaker 13: period to them. When we declared war on Japan and
2:02:32
Speaker 13: Germany and Italy on December eighth, nineteen forty one. The
2:02:35
Speaker 13: declaration of war ended expired when they surrendered. These aumfs
2:02:42
Speaker 13: have no surrender. When Donald Trump used a drone to
2:02:47
Speaker 13: kill General Solomani in twenty nineteen based on the two
2:02:52
Speaker 13: thousand and one Authorization for the Use of Military Force,
2:02:56
Speaker 13: there was no connection whatsoever. SOLEMONI was and Iraqi who
2:03:02
Speaker 13: was in Iran trying to negotiate peace, and they murdered
2:03:06
Speaker 13: him and claimed to get something to do with nine
2:03:08
Speaker 13: to eleven. He was a young man in nine to
2:03:10
Speaker 13: eleven and had nothing whatsoever to do with it. These
2:03:13
Speaker 13: authorization for use of military force authorizations are like a
2:03:18
Speaker 13: loaded gun in the resolute desk waiting for the President
2:03:22
Speaker 13: to take it out and kill whoever he wants.
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Speaker 1: All right, now, let's to address the underlying problem. I mean,
2:03:27
Speaker 1: I'm in accord with my listeners. We had a real
2:03:30
Speaker 1: problem with people criminally ferrying drugs into our country, demonstrably
2:03:35
Speaker 1: bad for our country, hundreds of thousands of people who
2:03:38
Speaker 1: have died already. I know we got a problem with consumption,
2:03:40
Speaker 1: but those drugs are not legally allowed to come into
2:03:43
Speaker 1: our country. So fighting the drug problem and going after
2:03:46
Speaker 1: them seems to be the ultimate goal. Expedience is what
2:03:49
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is embracing. Hell, I'll just blow them up
2:03:52
Speaker 1: and we'll just you know, let Congress and and everybody
2:03:55
Speaker 1: twiddle their thumbs and scream and yell about it. We
2:03:57
Speaker 1: need an AUMF, we need a declaration of war. All
2:04:00
Speaker 1: how do we what do we need to do to
2:04:02
Speaker 1: get to the problem. I mean, if you and I
2:04:04
Speaker 1: are an agreement on this, so how do.
2:04:06
Speaker 13: The liberious libertarian in me says, you own your own
2:04:10
Speaker 13: body and people should be able to do whatever they
2:04:12
Speaker 13: want to their own bodies.
2:04:13
Speaker 8: Now.
2:04:13
Speaker 13: I recognize that drugs have ruined people other than those
2:04:17
Speaker 13: who take them, because the people who take them have
2:04:19
Speaker 13: spouses and children and jobs and are engaged in economic, social,
2:04:25
Speaker 13: cultural activity.
2:04:26
Speaker 4: But I think you should be able to do what
2:04:28
Speaker 4: you want.
2:04:28
Speaker 13: That view is not going to prevail. We are victorians.
2:04:33
Speaker 13: The government thinks that it knows what's better for us.
2:04:36
Speaker 13: The second view is a due process. Due process would
2:04:40
Speaker 13: say follow the boat until it gets into American waters,
2:04:46
Speaker 13: Stop the boat, search it. If there's no drugs, leave
2:04:50
Speaker 13: them alone. If there are drugs, arrest everybody, prosecute them.
2:04:54
Speaker 13: You will learn a lot more about where the drugs
2:04:58
Speaker 13: came from and how they got in the Nation States,
2:05:00
Speaker 13: by the process of prosecution and plea bargaining negotiation, then
2:05:05
Speaker 13: you will by destroying everything. Where will I'm now parroting
2:05:10
Speaker 13: Senator pull Where will the destruction stop? I mean, suppose
2:05:14
Speaker 13: the boat makes it to Miami and unloads into a
2:05:19
Speaker 13: moving van, and the moving van is going north on
2:05:22
Speaker 13: ninety five towards Orlando. Can you blow up the moving van?
2:05:26
Speaker 13: I mean, where will this stop?
2:05:29
Speaker 1: That's a great point, I agree, And if they entered
2:05:31
Speaker 1: international waters, I think law would prohibit us from just
2:05:33
Speaker 1: unilaterally blowing them up, certainly in the absence of an
2:05:36
Speaker 1: authorization used military force. They're in international waters, I mean
2:05:40
Speaker 1: they're in a rather territorial waters. They don't mean international water.
2:05:43
Speaker 1: So once they've got to the point where they do
2:05:45
Speaker 1: represent an emminent threat faring this dangerous cargo, like you said,
2:05:49
Speaker 1: pull them over like the Coastguard does and prosecute it.
2:05:52
Speaker 13: I mean, these speedboats have a maximum distance of fifty
2:05:56
Speaker 13: to sixty miles, and they all, all of them, except
2:06:00
Speaker 13: for the two or three that were off the coast
2:06:02
Speaker 13: of Mexico, were fifteen hundred miles from the United States. Basically,
2:06:10
Speaker 13: this thug, Admiral Bradley was shooting fish in a barrel,
2:06:16
Speaker 13: and as I point out in the article, he was
2:06:18
Speaker 13: in Florida. The vehicles, whether they were drones or jets,
2:06:23
Speaker 13: took off from Florida. The people pressing the buttons and
2:06:27
Speaker 13: locating the targets are in Florida. There's somebody to the
2:06:30
Speaker 13: Constitution in Florida. They can't say they escaped the Constitution
2:06:35
Speaker 13: because they're doing their work in the Caribbean. They can't
2:06:38
Speaker 13: say they escaped the constitution because they're targeting narco terrorists.
2:06:42
Speaker 13: Narco terrorists is not a legal term, it's a political term.
2:06:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think that's sort of an endeavor
2:06:50
Speaker 1: to be sly and kind of shoehorn the drug dealers
2:06:54
Speaker 1: into the prior authorisation use military force, which of course
2:06:58
Speaker 1: were related to Muslim and fundamentals terrorist. So I don't
2:07:01
Speaker 1: know if you can necessarily do that, but it sounds
2:07:03
Speaker 1: good when you say it out loud. Look, I'm bringing
2:07:05
Speaker 1: about justice. I'm dealing with these people expediently. I'm sending
2:07:08
Speaker 1: a message to the world. And the only reason that
2:07:11
Speaker 1: message is being sent because of the course of Venezuela
2:07:13
Speaker 1: can't defend itself, right right.
2:07:17
Speaker 8: So listen.
2:07:17
Speaker 13: I don't know how this ends. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who's
2:07:22
Speaker 13: the former chief of staff of the State Department under
2:07:25
Speaker 13: Colon Powell, has told me that the government is spending
2:07:29
Speaker 13: a billion with a bee a day to house twenty
2:07:33
Speaker 13: thousand troops down there and a dozen ships a billion
2:07:39
Speaker 13: with a bee a day. Is that just wasted or
2:07:41
Speaker 13: will Trump feel the need to do something? And yesterday
2:07:44
Speaker 13: they conducted the practice runs in Puerto Rico of storming beaches.
2:07:51
Speaker 13: And yesterday President Trump said of President Maduro his days
2:07:56
Speaker 13: are numbered.
2:07:57
Speaker 8: For what.
2:07:58
Speaker 13: Venezuela doesn't pose the lightest national security threat to the
2:08:03
Speaker 13: United States. It is not an exporter of drugs. The
2:08:07
Speaker 13: fentanyl is made in Mexico and comes directly from Mexico.
2:08:12
Speaker 13: The cocaine comes from Honduras, the president of which he
2:08:16
Speaker 13: just let out of jail from a forty five year
2:08:19
Speaker 13: prison term. Who is the biggest exporter of cocaine in
2:08:22
Speaker 13: the history of the United States government. What am I
2:08:25
Speaker 13: missing here, Brian?
2:08:27
Speaker 1: Not quite sure what. I'm sure there are certain elements
2:08:29
Speaker 1: that you left out, but you know, it just serve
2:08:32
Speaker 1: to further illustrate your broader point. And I know it's
2:08:36
Speaker 1: difficult for my listeners to hear. They hate hearing that
2:08:38
Speaker 1: this is unlawful or extra constitutional, but you know what
2:08:41
Speaker 1: it's it's the try. I think you can't get escape
2:08:43
Speaker 1: the truth. Breathe the document, I mean congressional actions and.
2:08:49
Speaker 13: Took an oath faithfully to enforce the laws and faithfully
2:08:54
Speaker 13: to uphold the Constitution. The laws for him a extra
2:08:57
Speaker 13: judicial killing, and the Constitution requires process. A high school
2:09:02
Speaker 13: student could tell you that.
2:09:04
Speaker 1: Are you talking today on Judging Freedom your podcast Judging
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Speaker 1: and Apolitano.
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Speaker 13: I have a professor Glenn Dieson and Max Bloomenthal and
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Speaker 4: Eve.
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Speaker 1: I wish you all the luck in the world and
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Speaker 1: achieving that lofty goal. Judging and a Polton and deserving
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Speaker 1: of it you are. We'll be listening to your podcast
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2:09:47
Speaker 1: We'll talk next Wednesday.
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Speaker 13: Thank you, Thank you, Brian remind Ingram I love them.
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Speaker 1: I will do just that, sir. Take care coming up.
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Speaker 1: Alisia Reese, how much kind of commission she talks station
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Speaker 1: Please as I can be to Welcome to the fifty
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Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. Hamon County Commissioner Alisha Rees. Alicia,
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Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the morning show. Thanks
2:10:11
Speaker 1: for coming on today.
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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on.
2:10:14
Speaker 1: Please do and please to see you stepping over the plate.
2:10:16
Speaker 1: Hamilon County Prosecutor Connie Pillage, I understand, actually showed up
2:10:21
Speaker 1: in your budget discussion, meaning as I understand you and
2:10:24
Speaker 1: the other county commissioners are currently working on the county budget,
2:10:27
Speaker 1: which must be approved by December thirty. First, if I've
2:10:30
Speaker 1: got that right, it was noted by local news. I
2:10:33
Speaker 1: think the Inquiry and Fox nineteen I know both reported
2:10:36
Speaker 1: on it. You said, the first time you've ever seen
2:10:39
Speaker 1: a prosecutor come in in person for the presentation, because
2:10:42
Speaker 1: Connie Pillage is worried about the budget cut coming her way.
2:10:46
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the first time that since I've been elected
2:10:50
Speaker 12: that I've seen the actual prosecutor come in on in
2:10:53
Speaker 12: terms of a budget, they usually send their budget people,
2:10:56
Speaker 12: and she came in herself and let me just say,
2:10:59
Speaker 12: we've got a tough budget. And you know, for anything,
2:11:02
Speaker 12: you've got to get to votes. And I have been
2:11:05
Speaker 12: fighting against a lot of things that have been going
2:11:08
Speaker 12: on for you know, decades, because people who elected me said, hey,
2:11:13
Speaker 12: we want to we want to make sure that the
2:11:15
Speaker 12: citizens and the taxpayers come first. And so in this budget,
2:11:18
Speaker 12: I'm really want to make sure that we have safety.
2:11:22
Speaker 12: We've got to have safety, and we have to have affordability.
2:11:25
Speaker 12: So I've been fighting against property high property tax increases.
2:11:31
Speaker 12: You know, I've been fighting for the thirty percent that
2:11:33
Speaker 12: was promised to the people we went to the Yeah,
2:11:36
Speaker 12: I've been fighting that.
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Speaker 1: And thank you from the bottom of my heart, thank
2:11:39
Speaker 1: you for being the ones that say, listen, we promised
2:11:43
Speaker 1: the voters we would do this. Let's step up and
2:11:45
Speaker 1: do what we were what we promised. Thank you very much.
2:11:48
Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: So it's been a real tough fight because this time
2:11:51
Speaker 12: they didn't go with it. My two colleagues passed a
2:11:55
Speaker 12: new deal with the Bengals, and the advisor said, if
2:11:59
Speaker 12: we pass this particular new deal, it would cut out
2:12:03
Speaker 12: the promise to the homeowners. And so that's why I
2:12:06
Speaker 12: couldn't go with that deal. I said, let's get a
2:12:08
Speaker 12: different deal. Let's try to do what Denver did, get
2:12:10
Speaker 12: some more private investment. And most of the deals now
2:12:14
Speaker 12: for the stadiums, have more private investment. But I was
2:12:17
Speaker 12: out numbered, and they went with this deal. And they
2:12:19
Speaker 12: knew that in this deal, and in my speech with
2:12:22
Speaker 12: the experts, the finance people, they knew that the homeowners
2:12:26
Speaker 12: would get cut out. And so now in this budget
2:12:28
Speaker 12: they only want to give four percent to the homeowners
2:12:31
Speaker 12: when they were supposed to get thirty percent. So the
2:12:33
Speaker 12: property tax this year will go up. And then they
2:12:36
Speaker 12: tried to blame the homeowners, said, well, the homeowners, they're
2:12:39
Speaker 12: going to bankrupt the fund. No, the stadium deal is
2:12:42
Speaker 12: bankrupt in the fund because we didn't get a better
2:12:45
Speaker 12: We didn't get a better deal. So taxes are going
2:12:47
Speaker 12: up there. So I've been fighting that. Then they wanted
2:12:49
Speaker 12: to add can you imagine this in this budget? They
2:12:53
Speaker 12: wanted to balance it by adding a new transfer tax
2:12:56
Speaker 12: if you sell your home. And so the Relatory Alliance
2:13:00
Speaker 12: folks and the relatives that everybody came down the experts
2:13:03
Speaker 12: yesterday in our hearing and said, we can't do that.
2:13:07
Speaker 12: That will make or break and be passed on to
2:13:10
Speaker 12: the homeowners, the buyers, the sellers, and run people to
2:13:14
Speaker 12: clear myt County Warrant County in Kentucky because we would
2:13:19
Speaker 12: have the highest transfer tax on fighting to get that
2:13:22
Speaker 12: out of there. Now, on top of that, we have
2:13:24
Speaker 12: in the budget where they only put flat for the
2:13:27
Speaker 12: prosecutor's office. And I said, wait a minute, I mean
2:13:30
Speaker 12: they have positions that need to be felled. And the
2:13:34
Speaker 12: prosecutor came down and said she would have to lay
2:13:37
Speaker 12: off people. And let me be absolutely clear, safety and
2:13:41
Speaker 12: affordability are my two biggest things. And I said, wait
2:13:44
Speaker 12: a minute. The prosecutor's office must be fully funded and
2:13:49
Speaker 12: staffed to make sure that we're taken on crime. We're
2:13:54
Speaker 12: having justice and we've got safety, and then the other
2:13:58
Speaker 12: thing in state law. To be honest, the prosecutor's office
2:14:02
Speaker 12: could go to the courts and get the budget. They
2:14:05
Speaker 12: don't have to be working, you know, with us. So
2:14:08
Speaker 12: I'm happy that the prosecutor county pillage as we said, hey,
2:14:12
Speaker 12: let's try to work this thing out. But I'm telling
2:14:15
Speaker 12: the administrator and I'm only one vote, but very important.
2:14:20
Speaker 12: We've got to have a voice. I said, she needs
2:14:22
Speaker 12: to make sure that her office is funded, has the
2:14:25
Speaker 12: right staffing, to make sure that the whole county is safe.
2:14:29
Speaker 12: I'm talking villages and townships and cities. I mean, this
2:14:33
Speaker 12: is the core of the budget, and we've got to
2:14:35
Speaker 12: make sure that it happened. We can't be funding stadiums
2:14:38
Speaker 12: and then come back and say we can't fund the
2:14:40
Speaker 12: prosecutor's office.
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Speaker 4: It just doesn't make sense, really, And that's.
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Speaker 1: One of the more profound points that came out, and
2:14:44
Speaker 1: I'm glad you embraced that. You know, we've got to
2:14:46
Speaker 1: consider priorities. We agree to spend three hundred fifty million
2:14:49
Speaker 1: dollars on pay corps, and I know we have a
2:14:51
Speaker 1: lease obligation to do something along those lines where you're
2:14:53
Speaker 1: going to have to, you know, tighten the belt elsewhere,
2:14:56
Speaker 1: and we need to keep the prosecutor's office fully funded.
2:14:58
Speaker 1: I sort of viewed this flat budget that Jeff Alito,
2:15:02
Speaker 1: the county administrator, suggested, which will result in I think
2:15:05
Speaker 1: eighteen prosecutors getting laid off or late eighteen people being
2:15:09
Speaker 1: laid off in the prosecutor's office is analogous to kind
2:15:11
Speaker 1: of like defund police. If the prosecutors don't have the
2:15:14
Speaker 1: ability to prosecute cases, then either they're going to enter
2:15:17
Speaker 1: into real soft plea agreements so they don't have to
2:15:19
Speaker 1: take people to trial, or they're just going to not
2:15:20
Speaker 1: prosecute them at all. That is not good for the
2:15:23
Speaker 1: state of crime in the county.
2:15:26
Speaker 12: No, that's a safety hazard. And I've indicated to the
2:15:31
Speaker 12: administrator I don't know and even to her budget person,
2:15:34
Speaker 12: how in the world did we come in flat on
2:15:36
Speaker 12: the prosecutor's office. I mean, that's where you kind of
2:15:39
Speaker 12: start off, and then you know, the prosecutor's office, the
2:15:42
Speaker 12: shares office. We've got to have safety and we have
2:15:45
Speaker 12: to have affordability, and that's how I look at the budget.
2:15:47
Speaker 12: I want safety and then I want affordability so the
2:15:50
Speaker 12: people can afford to live here. And right now we're
2:15:53
Speaker 12: in an imbalance as it relates to those areas. And
2:15:56
Speaker 12: you mentioned you said we have obligations with the stadiums.
2:15:59
Speaker 12: Remember that obligation had expired. True, so we had a
2:16:03
Speaker 12: chance to do a new thing, and we came back
2:16:06
Speaker 12: with a new thing. That axed out a three hundred
2:16:08
Speaker 12: and fifty million, eight hundred total million deal with interest,
2:16:12
Speaker 12: and we came in with something axing out the homeowners.
2:16:16
Speaker 12: And that's why I wanted to take it to the ballot,
2:16:17
Speaker 12: because if you don't go to the ballot, they'll ax
2:16:19
Speaker 12: you out. And then you come back and say, now
2:16:22
Speaker 12: we're going to add the transfer text and then let
2:16:24
Speaker 12: me say this. People said, we where are you gonna
2:16:26
Speaker 12: find some of the money. Well, that in the in
2:16:28
Speaker 12: the budget we had approved and I support sundance. I
2:16:32
Speaker 12: supported it two million dollars, but we didn't get sundance.
2:16:36
Speaker 12: We also approved another five million dollars for a women's
2:16:40
Speaker 12: soccer league. I supported that, but we didn't get it.
2:16:43
Speaker 12: So that I told the administered I said, that's seven
2:16:45
Speaker 12: million dollars I just found that we didn't use. Yeah,
2:16:49
Speaker 12: why can't we Why can't we put that toward the
2:16:52
Speaker 12: prosecutor's office. He said, well, normally, you know, those are
2:16:56
Speaker 12: interest earning funds that he found. And he said, normally
2:17:00
Speaker 12: we don't do that one time. But remember our budget.
2:17:03
Speaker 12: We have one time budgets because we do at the county.
2:17:06
Speaker 12: Unlike other governments, we have a yearly budget, So do
2:17:10
Speaker 12: it now sales tax. Hopefully the economy recovers and then
2:17:14
Speaker 12: we worry about it next time. But we have us,
2:17:16
Speaker 12: we have an emergency to make sure that the Prosecutor's
2:17:19
Speaker 12: office is fully staged. Yeah, it can do their jobs.
2:17:25
Speaker 12: And because safety is on the line, and then affordability
2:17:28
Speaker 12: is on the line, and those are the two things
2:17:31
Speaker 12: that I think are important in the budget. So I've
2:17:33
Speaker 12: been fighting for these things because there's some tough times
2:17:36
Speaker 12: out here.
2:17:37
Speaker 1: Alisha Reice. You just got done finding seven million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Give the prosecutors offers a two million dollars shortfall that
2:17:43
Speaker 1: that will cover them until next year. And we'll always
2:17:46
Speaker 1: going to face problems, right, Alicia, deal with it next year.
2:17:49
Speaker 1: You got five million extra that you didn't spend. Why
2:17:51
Speaker 1: not throw that at some of the other problems that
2:17:53
Speaker 1: people are screaming about? You are you? Is there is
2:17:57
Speaker 1: there a possibility as you see things right now, Commissioner Lish,
2:18:00
Speaker 1: that they will the county pillets in the Prosecutor's office
2:18:03
Speaker 1: will get that money that they obviously need in the
2:18:05
Speaker 1: interest of Hamilton County and the residents. Is not over yet, No,
2:18:10
Speaker 1: it's not over.
2:18:11
Speaker 12: I'm gonna fight like hell, I'm only one vote, but
2:18:14
Speaker 12: you know when I put the thirty percent up when
2:18:16
Speaker 12: I first got elected, he said, oh, there's no way
2:18:18
Speaker 12: you're gonna get it. We was able to get it
2:18:20
Speaker 12: one year, I was able to get the second year.
2:18:22
Speaker 12: If we get the people. We got to have the people.
2:18:25
Speaker 12: And always tell people when I'm down there, yes there's
2:18:27
Speaker 12: three of us, but I'm representing two hundred and eighteen
2:18:29
Speaker 12: thousand people that voted for me. So it's you know,
2:18:32
Speaker 12: the people call and get involved in I've instructed the
2:18:35
Speaker 12: administrator to get with the Prosecutor's office and let's try
2:18:40
Speaker 12: to work this out because safety and affordability are the
2:18:44
Speaker 12: two biggest things right now, and we've got to make
2:18:47
Speaker 12: sure that the county is safe.
2:18:49
Speaker 1: Excellent a call to action from kind of Commissioner Lisha
2:18:51
Speaker 1: Reese to do everything that you and I want, which
2:18:53
Speaker 1: is keep Hamilton County safe, get the prosecutor the funds
2:18:56
Speaker 1: that she needs so we can prosecute crimes. Alicia, thank
2:18:59
Speaker 1: you for being a reason. I will look forward to
2:19:01
Speaker 1: having you back on this show. And if we don't
2:19:02
Speaker 1: talk between now and December, I wish you the best
2:19:05
Speaker 1: on the budget, and I wish you and your family
2:19:07
Speaker 1: are very happy holiday and merry Christmas.
2:19:10
Speaker 12: Thank you, happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you as well
2:19:13
Speaker 12: and your listeners, and thanks for having me on to
2:19:14
Speaker 12: get the word out.
2:19:15
Speaker 1: Any time. Commissioner reaset anytime eight fifty six. Right now,
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