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From a Kia Stonic to a Porsche 911 GT3 RS...plus EV depreciation · The Driver's Show

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: How was your week? My week started off as a
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Kia Eving six GT, but ended with a Stonic.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: A Stoni. If you don't want to be racist.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you Paul Marrack Badle, thank you Badle. Stonnik amrack
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: ah man man there. Let's just say there was a
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: bit of a stuff up at the key of factory.
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they realized that you had turned up and they're like, oh,
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: we thought it was going to be forever long.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: We thought this was going to be Pavley give him
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: a stonie anyway, wheeled out with a horse.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just literally a man with a fishing rod
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: to carrot.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: At the end. You know what, though, I actually quite
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: like the Stonic.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: What do you like about it?
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: It's it's reasonable, it's nice, there's there's nothing wrong with it.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think, mmm, what was wrong with it?
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: It serves its purpose. When you think you're getting in
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: a bloody zero to one hundred car from zero to
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: one hundred and three point two seconds or whatever it is,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: and you end up with the Stonitch, you get your
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: grumpy pants on. But look, this car serves a purpose.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. It's it's great. If you're
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: eighty six years old and need to go down and
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: complain about why your meals and on wheels are late.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't know it's Look, I had the GT
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  Speaker 1: line as well. There's literally when you put your foot
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: on the gas for the first half, there's literally nothing.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: There's literally there's nothing, there's no go.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: You are very hard to please. No, I'm not. Daniel
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  Speaker 2: loves that car. You've just ruined it for him.
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: Daniel was made in the back of that car. What
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: would his parents have listened to? Oh god, back in
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: the day, it would have been Viralin check on from
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: Viralin down. I think it's game. We create little.
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: Me to care.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: Calllu.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: That's just how Daniel was created.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: So stupid.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: No wonder the internet hates me.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, we'll get onto that a little later.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: How is your week?
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: It's very busy, so I know we're going to be
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: talking more about this, I think next episode, but we're
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: going through our use of the year at the moment.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: Australia's most comprehensive ute test. Hopefully we don't get sued
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: for that claim even though it's true.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: But yes, Australia's most.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: Comprehensive ute test and we've been starting to roll out
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: all of the content now, so in the next episode
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: we'll run through who the winner is and why we've
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: chosen the winner, and why it had nothing to do
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  Speaker 3: with how much money they spent.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: With us, says the man. Drive What do you what
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: are you driving around at the moment? They're Pavlai.
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually just getting around in my raptor because
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know some of the other cars we've had
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: in the office are a bit, you know, a bland.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I wonder if that's a little
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: taste of the honey of the things to come.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, perhaps it is a little suckle on the nectar
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  Speaker 3: of the year of the year.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, By the way, how long have you been enrolled
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: in tafe? Just looking in the background, if you're where
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: you're currently situated, you've got your little lunch bag there?
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: How sheet metal going? How are you going with that?
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, so this is actually part of the busyness of
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: my week.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: We've been moving office, so I'm in our new office
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: at the moment.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: So it's quite an expanse clearly sponsored by IKEA.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, there are a few billies behind me, you know.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: The Tower of Billy. No, what was that?
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  Speaker 3: It's a type of ikea bookshelf. Isn't it the best
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: selling bookshelf ever?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? The Billy, Yeah, the Billy.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: God our producer knows what that was, mainly because he
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: lives in a one bedroom apartment with six people living
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  Speaker 1: in it.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: Billy.
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  Speaker 1: He's just showing me Billy. In my day, Billy was
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: something with a gatorade bottle in a neighbors hose, a
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: fucking bookshelf. How times have changed?
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want to say, do you know I'm
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: going to say something completely wild? Last app I was
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: saying that I'm not I've never really been a BMW guy.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: And the XM was wildly impressive to me. Right, I
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it everything about it.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: It was lux.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been thinking a lot about the whole range
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: and they do have very much a different sort of
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: design language now depending on the model, right, which I
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: think is kind of far out. It's crazy. We saw
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: the what was it, the M three and the M
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: four with the big well instead of kidneys, they turned
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  Speaker 1: into Lung's teeth. Me and you sat in the IX
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: that came around, and then there was the M two, Commodore, Commodore, comodeore.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Come on, that car looked pretty sick. So everything start
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  Speaker 1: to look different. And then I just saw the BMW
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  Speaker 1: seven series, and I'm.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: All on the seven series.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it. I
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  Speaker 1: think the whole thing, the whole the whole thing is
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  Speaker 1: just such a ballsy move and I'm just I'm really
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: into it. And guess what, I think, I'm becoming a
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: BMW guy.
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, Janney Red comes straight out of the closet, just
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: breaking through that door. Yeah, so I my TikTok fame
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: came courtesy of the BMW seven series. I did a
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  Speaker 3: brief TikTok record that was a minute long and it
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  Speaker 3: got something like seven million viewerships. And basically, yeah, that
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: was based on the screen in the second row, because
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: it's like a thirty four inch display that folds down
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: from the roof. And I'm interested from anyone that's listening
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  Speaker 3: to this, Do you think that is any reason ever
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: to have a thirty four inch display in the second
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  Speaker 3: row of your car?
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. This whole car seems to be
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: set up for when I'm doing dealings with Beijing and
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: I'm on my way to a meeting and maybe I
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: want to look at myself on our new YouTube channel.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: Oh oh that's disturbing.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what else is disturbing?
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: You?
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Whacking off to yourself and Bloody the Car Expert YouTube
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: in the back head Tesla, You're like, Tesla, engage.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: Subscribe and hit the bell icon.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, plug train new YouTube channel. Thanks for thanks for
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: being so excited about that little endeavor.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well first I've heard of it.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'd surprise you on that one. I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: work in this thing.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about right anyway?
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, BMW, I think I don't know what, like,
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: what are your impressions of the seventh series? Like, what
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: when you sort of look at this as a whole collective,
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: it's I think.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: It's amazing, And I'll tell you why. I think it's amazing.
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: I think that was saighties. Bens has dropped the ball.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: With the S class.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: The S Class just looks like a bigger, more expensive
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: version of a C class. Yes, and I think the
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  Speaker 3: seven series has gone back to being about luxury, and
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: when you sit inside it, they have it is just
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: an array of luxury. They've really gone to town on
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: making this thing look and feel expensive, and I just
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: feel at the moment, when you're spending that kind of
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: money on some of these cars that are out there,
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: you're just not getting that feeling and that the seventh
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: Series really takes it up that notch. Even some of
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: the materials, like you have sort of cashmere, you know, seats.
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  Speaker 1: And the crystal sides as well, the crystal door lips,
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  Speaker 1: little screens inside.
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  Speaker 3: The doors as well. Like this is what the seventh
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: Series used to be. The seventh Series used to be
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  Speaker 3: just the thing that blew you away. James Bond drove
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: around in it was it a seven Series or a
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: five series, but he drove around in that car that
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: was controlled by a little sort of tablet like it is.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: It is cool stuff and they're going back to that again,
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  Speaker 2: which I love.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I agree with everything you've said
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: about the Mercedes, even argue that Audi's.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: Ouda's the same because the AA is the same sort
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  Speaker 2: of story.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: They've kind of put all of the tech that's in
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  Speaker 3: the AA in the rest of the cars, so it
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: doesn't feel any different, whereas the seven series is just
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  Speaker 3: the seven Series. We're not going to be in a
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  Speaker 3: position where the three Series has a thirty four inch
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  Speaker 3: display that rolls out of the roof. It is just
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: going to be the seven Series that always has that,
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: which I think is great.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's completely evolved in the way in a beautiful
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: dream like way, like it really is the car something
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: someone would dream up.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: What will surprise you is the size of it, because
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: what they heard from their customers was the customers wanted
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: more of an suv, and obviously they didn't want to
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: make it an X seven. But this new seven Series
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: is a longer than the previous generation long wheelbase. It's
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: taller than that as well, so when you see it
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: in person, it actually looks like an suv but isn't
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: quite an suv, but it has that feeling to it
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: both inside and outside, so it is super sized.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: It is absolutely enormous.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: I'm a BMW gar whoa, oh hey, this is exciting.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this for a long time and
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: it's finally confirmed. It's finally happening, and it feels properly real.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: Now is the Ford F one fifty. Not only is
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: it coming, it's properly coming. The prices have been released.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: We know it's what Q three they'll start arriving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually really shocked by the price.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: I thought this was going to start about one hundred
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: and twenty grand upwards. It's starting at just under one
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: hundred and seven grand before on roads. It'll arrive in
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: Australia Q three, And it's interesting they're offering two different versions.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: They're doing a short wheel base and a long wheelbase,
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: and the base will basically kick off with the XLT,
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: which is kind of the shitkicker model, but the longer
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: wheelbase is only a couple of grand more.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: It really isn't that expensive.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: So they will all be powered by three point five
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: liter twin turbo charged V six petrol engines, so it
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: makes almost the same amount of power and a little
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: more talk than the Ranger ractor here in Australia and
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: body as well, so it doesn't weigh all that much.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just a bit concerned. You see the pictures of
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: the interior of the XLT, it kind of looks pretty cheap. O.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it, and I don't think it looks
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: too bad. I mean, you've got to realize that that's
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: sort of that sort of fit out is for people's
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: cuck who just want to wipe stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Down your Daniel.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I think that the screen's tiny.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: It kind of looks a bit spartan.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: But if you then step up to the midspec, which
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: is called the Lariot, I love these American names.
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  Speaker 2: Lariot is one hundred and.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: Forty grand for the long wheel base, so it does
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: step up in price pretty quickly, but that's about the
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: same price you're paying for a Ram fifteen hundred.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: And this is as nice, if not nicer.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: Actually, hey, one of the other videos I did that
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: went viral on TikTok.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Can you stop the way?
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: The way you even say TikTok is like TikTok when
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I moved on from mass bass and to the Tiktoks.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: But the other video that I had that went viral
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: there with several million views.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Was the video of two features.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: The the fifty we had in the States, which was
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: the fold down gear stick that creates.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: A work bench.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: There was a second feature as well that folded down
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: the two front seats to create a bed, so you
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: could have literally a laid flat seat.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: It was bloody unreal soo features.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this car right now. This honestly reminds
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: me of that guy who who's it reminds me of
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: that guy who's got far too much money and spends
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: it on fishing gear.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Sounds like me.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: Just to full on, full sleeve shimano kind of job.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Puts his six pack of puts his six pack of
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: great northerns in there. This bloody ridiculous sonni is that
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: no one wears apart from a speed dealer. We're going
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: to bloody Boomey Gooey and we know a mile and fishing.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: I'm tar on the boat. I got the Bertram sponsored
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: by Shamanna. Me and the bloke.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Yep Ie so want one?
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of want what they bring.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: If they bring the Raptor here, I'm going to have
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: to trade up to just something a bit more, you know, big.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Anything to compensate. My My dad had one of these
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and yeah, and I still
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: remember him driving it home for the first time. All black.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Those really like the big Rams. And I had My
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: first car was a was a Swift GT I and wow,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: it could actually fit in the back of that car, which.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Not surprised me about your first car? Makes sense?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Now what was your first car?
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Next question, let's all.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Come on with car. Let's have a look at that.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Pull it up.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: What was that? People?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: The people want to know? What was it?
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Well? This is there is a backstory to this. My
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: first car was a Camry, but.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: So he gave me ship for a for a swift GT.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: I drive it because the day I turned eighteen, I
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: got my first media evaluation vehicle and since then I've
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: just been driving those.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: I've only ever had those. So enjoy that. There you go.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a fucking sandwich on the table, isn't it.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: You don't even know what that me neither. I'm just
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: looking at the pizza that me and our producer and
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking hell hungry, and we skip that much
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: so overhearing about Paul's Camra. Let's just dig into the pizza, Martie. Yeah,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: wow a Camri.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sensible is the word.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just you haven't changed. I mean, if if those
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: river slacks were a car camera, I'm surprised you didn't start.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't surprised you didn't end up as a cab driver.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: If Uber was around when I was, I probably would have.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Been Now listen, you can carry this. I don't want
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: to be a part of it. If you can buy
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: a Polster, you'd probably want to hold on to it
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. Isn't that right? Pavli?
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, So we did an interesting story. I look at
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: some of these car companies that have.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Guaranteed future valued plans and we got onto the topic
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: of evs because I have been closely watching the cost
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: of Tesla's and what they're worth secondhand. When you think
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: about EV's, batteries degrade over time, so they're going to
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: be worth less and less as time goes on. So
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: we did a little exercise where we took some of
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: the evs that are from bigger brands and then we
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: put them through the brand's own guaranteed future value calculators.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: So we did a Mazda MX thirty, We did a
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Mercedes Benz eq C I think it was, and then
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: we did a pole Star three which has yet to
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: be released that we haven't even seen spy photos of them,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: so who even knows what state they're at with actually
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: making this car. But they announced the pricing a couple
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and it's bloody expensive. It looks cheap,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: but it's definitely not cheap the second you start ticking
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: a few option boxes for stuff that really should be standard,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: and keeping in mind is a car that's made in China,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: so it is pretty cheap to manufacture compared to some
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: of these vehicles that are rolling out of Germany and Japan.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: We were blown away with how much money you lose
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: on this thing.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: So when you took a couple of basic options, the
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: new price on the road was one hundred and sixty
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: two thousand dollars four hundred and seventy one over four years.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to ask you to guess how much
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: do you think this was worth in four years time?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, the new price is one hundred and
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: sixty two grand.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so we start new at one sixty.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've driven it around for four years sixty
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: thousand k's, which is fifteen thousand k's a year.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Pretty sort of basic stuff. How much do you reckon?
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Polestar says their Polestar three is worth after four years.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say between I'm going to say between
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: sixty seventy five, I'd probably say do you know what
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I'd more say? Seventy five thousand.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, how does fifty nine thousand dollars sound? So you're
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: losing one hundred and three thousand dollars over four years.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is it is? That's like over fifty percent?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: That's like sixty percent, right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is insane. So yeah, we're really blown
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: away by that. And to put that into context of
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: per kilometer, it's a dollar seventy per kilometer that this
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: thing is depreciating. So you're paying per kilometer to charge
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: at per kilometer to service it, and then you're depreciating
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: the vehicle constantly every single kilomity you drive, and it
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: must get to a point where you're like, oh, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: don't really want to drive it because it's just depreciating
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: so much. And how does that compare? So MX thirty,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: which is the master thing that they've sold barely any
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: of that's seventy grand on the road, that is worth
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: after four years twenty nine grand. But as a depreciation
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: per kilometer, it's sixty six cents, So it's depreciating far
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: less than the dollar seventy that you're losing on your
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Polster s No saydes Benz a dollar twenty per kilometer
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: in terms of depreciation. So yeah, it is remarkable, and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I think it is worth just keeping in mind if
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: you are going to buy an EV and you are
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: going to finance it, really have a look at resale
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: values because that I think is really important at the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: moment for an EV, especially compared to any other car
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: on the road.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like we're paying through the roof
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: for evs generally, Like still you kind of I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of people would have expected prices to go
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. I know the Tesla has dropped
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: their price somewhat, but yeah, I expected everything to be
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a lot more cheaper the.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Polster and this isn't coming out till next year, So
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: we're saying that in twelve months time, this is still
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: going to feel like it's worth one hundred and seventy
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: grand when you're buying it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And I just don't get that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: If we're meant to be talking about EV's becoming cheaper,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: this thing is still twelve months away.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So you have twelve months.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Worth of battery development and all these advances, and you're
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: still going to hit us with one hundred and seventy
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: EV I think it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Blows me away even more with Polestar is that the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: only other car they sell at the moment is the Polestar.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Too, which isn't selling great by the way.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Really, it's not selling great, but it's also not that expensive.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So you're telling me that if I want an SUV
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: version of a Polestar, I have to spend an extra.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Hundred thousand dollars. These people are crazy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: What do you make it? The Polster Too? By the way,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I remember we reviewed it, didn't we.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you tried to, but you remember, no one will
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: get back to you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I know they had that sad and they got back
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Oh you go no.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Look, the Polestar Too really is a bit of a
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: failed effort in terms of advancing their EV brand because
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the car itself is fine, it's okay, but it's incredibly
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: cramped inside, Like in the second row, I have to
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: tilt my head to the left to actually fit in there,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: this enormous drive line hump. Because it shares a platform
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: with an internal combustion car.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: It just feels like a very low effort attempt.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And to think that they don't have a replacement for
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that coming anytime soon is totally beyond me.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: You weren't actually tilting your head to get in the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: car and Trevor in the backseat, and it was payback
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: for coming on the show. I don't know I found there.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that Pulster two looks wise, it's fine,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it's fine. I think the inside is fine. The whole
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: thing is just fine. It's you kind of look at
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it and you go, who would buy this thing? Because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it's somewhat boring. You sort of think, oh, look at
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the flare. It's got like yellow seat belts and very
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like very sort of gray. It looks like furniture from
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: an airport travel lounge. Like honestly, I thought, who would
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: buy this? And then I realized it's someone who's really
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: into scandy furniture.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, And look, I'm sure there is a market
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: for that. But you just look at some of the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: materials like the cloth, and yeah, I don't know, it
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: just feels like.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's not going to date very well. So like it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: It just feels so corporate in there. It almost feels
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: like a fleet car.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally like a Model three, but less practical
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: like a Model three is very basic and spartan, in
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: so whereas a Pollstar is just the same but just
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: not as good in terms of anything that it does.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So I just kind of don't understand the point in it, do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You know what? Speaking of the Model three, I was
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: going to do a comparison between that and what went
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: on sale as we record this yesterday, was the Ionic six. Right,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's the kind of like their car to go up
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: against the Model three. Did you see the pricing for this,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: because I was really surprised that I thought the pricing
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: for the model for the Ionic six was kind of exy.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not only xy, but it is a very
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: odd looking car.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: It looks the back looks like an au Falcon, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I know that at the time it really it really
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: just set a trend.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But twenty years on it I think.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: The back looks like that sort of that double lip
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: at the back. I think that looks more like an
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: old school Porsche. Yeah, okay, it's got old school Porsche vibes. Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but the front just looks completely weird. It's almost like
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they try.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Know if Marty can hear this, but you guys have
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: SPECSA is in New South Wales, right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Go look at Okay, Okay, Mary, you know what Maria.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Maria produced can be the adjudicator, the adjudicator. If you
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: look at the back, look at the back of the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Ionic six. I don't think we're looking at the same car. Seriously,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about me and yeah, okay, now look at
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: trying try and get a rear a front like a rear.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Which does that look like?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Don't you think, Mary, Gordy when he comes into the office,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: is he smoking anything that looks to be illegal substance?
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, look, I was there, I talk I checked it
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: out over the weekend and I'm telling you now give
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: me one sec the build the assembly, No, the assembly.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Just look at the back of it. I forget about
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the lives. Look at the spoiler on the back and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: how fat it is at the bottom. What do you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you want to mail? Paul?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: This determines if you get another slice of pizza, So
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: think carefully. Okay, it's still deciding.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, so I was good.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Well anyway, that's the beauty of design, isn't it, Pavlis.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's subjective. I see a Porsche, you see an au Falcon.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Anyway says a lot about our personality it is.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: It is expensive.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just having a little sticky by seventy four grand
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: for the base and then eighty eight for the top
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: spec peak.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I find's weird too? The base
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is the one that will get you the furthest Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And I don't understand that, Like they add all this
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: extra weight for the dual motor set up, but then
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: it kills you, It kills your range.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: The middle I don't have it in front of me,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but I from memory, I think the middle spec was
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the one that was somewhat a similar price to the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: three around about seven around about eighty something, but that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: was including on roads. Once you get a Tesla on road,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it's similar sort of price, similar distance as well, similar range.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I'll hand.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yon day that their range is typically pretty on point.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be driving one soon, so we'll see
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: what it's like. But I just looking at the side
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: profile at the moment, the proportions look like there won't
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: be much headroom in the second row.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: The boot's probably not going to be great. So yeah, yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I just I just.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Wonder why they do this type of thing instead of
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: just going down the path of building SUVs, because that's
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: what everyone is buying at the moment.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: They go for this super niche product. It just makes
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: no sense to me. That's my rant.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to Paul's Ted talk everybody. I'm
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the same. That rear quarter window kind of looks like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: bendy and pointy and it just makes me feel funny
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and the tummy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Um, it's that pizza that you're gorging on at the moment.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Subway foot long that I enjoyed while charging.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: MAV beautiful, beautiful segue.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm taking the rest of the show off.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: You'd be happy about that, Daniel, go fuck yourself.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, fast food giants. Subway is building an ev
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: charging network.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah well, actually it's called the charging oasis.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Charging.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not ever going to a charging oasis, no matter
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: how good it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Is food involved.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. A big old foot long meatball.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: It is actually a really good idea, and I've seen
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: this in the UK before at some of those services
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: that are off the road where they'll be all based
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: around these food outlets, and it's actually a really good
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: idea because it means that you've got a place to
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: go to eat that you can charge your car at.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Typically a subway meal is like a twenty minute sort
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of exercise.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Talk to.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen you have to show restraint before when
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: just necking a hole.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I can usually just lay it down on the table
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and in through my nose, just like a plate of
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: k Marko.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Gay. I think this is I think.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: This is the way to go because it really sort
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: of builds on that ethoss of you get your food
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: fast to charge your car fast away you go. So
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: because at the moment, the whole business model of a
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: servo doesn't really work because a servo is a place
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: you're in and out really quickly. Sticking a few charges
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: on the side there doesn't make sense because you haven't
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: got thirty minutes worth of stuff to do at a servo, you.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: So I think that this concept is really going to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: take off, and we're going to have to see.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: A lot of servos diversifying.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Their business models to bring in a lot of these
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: fast food outlets to really make it worthwhile the trip.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You know what they could add there too, would be
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a car wash. Imagine if like you could buger off
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, have food, cars charged, cars washed?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Can we go to wash your car? Let's charging? Oh water, electricity?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Don't I always thought it was normal. Mo'm always used
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to chuck a toaster. And when I was in the bath,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: she was crying, but she did mumble a few inaudible things,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: something about my dad. I can't remember.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Should we talk a car review?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: We should talk a car review.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Ye's let's go with something affordable. You know, I think
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: we always we always talk about expensive stuff, and I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: think a lot of the complaints we get that we're
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: not really just covering affordable stuff.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So every day sort of the everyday man car. I agree,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So what have you got?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I've got a Porsche GT three RS, right, the Porsche
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: GT three RS. Listen. Before we do this, I just
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: want to quickly shout out to our good friends and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: we're going to put their handle on this screen. To
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Sydney Luxury Higher. They do basically exotic car high rentals,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: so stuff like Lambeau's, Bentley's, Ferrari's Porsche GT three RS.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And you get to drive this too, by the way,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: so this is something you can actually properly drive around
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: all day. You know, you can drive to your formal
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You can drive past your ex girl friend's house and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: pretend you're successful. You can you can drive to Pavlai's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: house and throw some throw some what's up?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Did you do that in the stonic to look at me? No?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Actually, do you know what?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Do a bit of a test with a stonic outside's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: girlfriend's house. I just wanted to test how long the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: horn would last. Anyway, My point is, yeah, check him out.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Handles on the screen we'll put I don't know a
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: link in the description of this podcast, but good people,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: thank you for lending us the car. We really enjoyed it,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: probably a bit too much. This car nearly killed me
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and our producer. I feel partly responsible for that. This
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: is a second hand car. Technically it's not a press car,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: so it's you know, it's a twenty what was it
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one, but I thought
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: car nearly killed me and our producer. I feel partly
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: responsible for that. This is a secondhand car. Technically it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: not a press car, so it's you know, it's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: twenty what was it twenty eighteen? Obviously not the new one,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but I thought I thought we would do this because
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just to give a bit of an insight into what
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it's like to own a supercar like this, I mean,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollar car. And if you look at,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: say roughly the newer one, it's it's quite funny how
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: how little the difference is on paper in a lot
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of ways, like they just kind of tweak it, tweak
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: stuff just to make the figures look a little bit
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: better on paper. But yeah, look roughly around about five
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars four liter flat six, three hundred and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: sixty seven killer, what's four sixty meters of talk This
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: is like zero to one hundred and three point three seconds.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But the funny part is the newer one is three
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: point two.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: But that's the problem.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: They can only extract so much out of a naturally
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: aspirated engine. And you know they always too, whenever a
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: new one of these roles around, they always talk about
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: what's going on beneath the skin, you know what I mean.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: So it's always about the mechanical changes underneath that get
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: you just that tiny bit more you know, tiny bit
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: more acceleration, tiny bit more track handling. It really is
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: all about just that minute difference between the previous one
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: and the new one.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It's such a but it's funny because everything is a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: lot more I'm trying to find the word. It's almost
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like a lot more concentrated. I think when you jump
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: in a car like this, you instantly appreciate everything that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: goes into this, from the engineering to the absolute detail.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you pay five hundred thousand dollars for this
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: is a spec This really is a special car. There's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a reason why people turn their heads as opposed to,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know, an everyday consumable sports car. Whether was that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Toyota you had? What was that? What did you drive? Again?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Was this a Supra? All I remember is you? I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: remember you had this sports car one point and I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: just remember thinking, may as well just get a Suzuki
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: du t I.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Rukeystomic.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Look the looks of this insane. It's an absolute aggressive beast.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's a hooligan of a car just to look at,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and it's such a head turner. Ours was the bright
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: orange one massive wing on the back then galore, just
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: an angry, just mean looking beast of a car. Like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: it really had stance, do you know what I mean?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like they are an incredible looking thing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And then you know, you look at the next generation
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: of GT three RS and the GT two like they're
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: now at the point where it's all about error and
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: extracting every little bit you can out of it. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the irony is you see most of these cars just
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: driving around the street, you know, with people like you
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: behind the wheel, and as a result of that, they
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: never actually at the track where you know they are
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: likely to experience, you know, every little bit that they
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: can out of these things.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: They really are quite an incredible machine.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like the new ones. Isn't it funny Like
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: when we were kids and we had remote controlled cars
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and you just look at it and go, wow, that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: thing's wild. It's like now they've built those, it's just
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like the look of them just looks like something like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a fucking Lego toy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, yeah, bloody unreal. And the cool thing as
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: well is they're actually kind of practical. If you drive
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: a Lamber or something like that, they're very hard to
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: park and just not very practical, whereas with a nine
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to eleven you can get a front lifter. They've got
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the ability to get cameras and all this sort of
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: stuff that actually makes it drivable and usable.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And not all that scary, which I think is a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: big bonus.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say that it's got like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the electronically raised axle up the front, so if you're
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: going over a speed hump or the driveway for instance,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: at this radio state, at this podcast studio, Wow, we
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: needed that. But yeah, there are there are all sorts
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of things. I think practicality, it is very fifty to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: fifty supposed to be a track car that you can daily.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Would I daily this car? Would you daily this car?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Some people do, and I can understand
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the appeal, but I don't know.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things that you'd have to be
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: very brave and very happy to be comfortable with it
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: being damaged potentially as a daily It.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Just genuinely feels seventy percent track car. Yeap, it really does.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You do sit in a car like this and you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: drive it, and you give it everything, and you explore
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: everything about it from you know, the chassis, and you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: pull limits on it, and you just you really sort
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of try to get to know this as much as
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: legally possible. And man, I think for the first time
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in a long time, I really sat there, and I
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: really appreciated the refinement that goes into this and the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: price tag it deserves. The engineering and it's almost in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways easy to drive one of these
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: cars fast than it is. I don't know, a Supra,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you're a bitch. It just it looks it just yah,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: it just feels excellent. It's the sort of car that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you sit in and you go, I'm not ready for this,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: but we're doing this, and it's go. It's just a
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it's just such a beautiful car. I mean, I've always
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a massive Porsche fanboy, but when you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: sit in a machine like this that's just so well
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: engineered in every single way.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: That's that's probably what it is the most.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It just feels really well engineered and yeah, just really
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: nicely put together. Yeah, the new GT three RS has
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: this enormous wing like it is just the most stupid
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: looking thing, and I just love every bit of it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I just think that's cool.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: If you pair it down, if you water it down,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: even the whole nine nine two line like it, the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: whole thing just looks stoic, like it just has a
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: beautiful presence. It's that it's that classic gentlemanly Porsche Vibe.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly like it's yeah, I don't know, you can.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It's it's a car that should age poorly but doesn't.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't change all that much in terms of
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: its design, but it is still a really appealing looking car.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: But but you know, really, just it is so much
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: fun to drive.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Definitely, the pros on this is everything. CON's more of
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a track car. It's just it's violent. It'll, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: throw you around, it'll make you feel great. But yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a not a I don't know.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I just could not daily this car, poor Marty. We
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: took it for a bit of a spin, and Marty
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: saw the face of God.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Legally legally is that the nickname for your okay, No,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: it was actually a bit.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about my penis? Yeah, I call it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I call that stomach. Really represents my personality. Zippy and economical.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, undesirable, it doesn't take too much on fuel.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Whatever that means. Stop laughing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I just thought i'd read through a little bit of
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: feedback that we got a couple of ratings that you
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: guys very generously left for us, so we can see
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that people really enjoyed having.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Trevor on the show, which is great, Which is really good?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: What? I so that I read out a couple of
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: these couple of.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: These ones great podcast from Alan denit extremely entertaining podcasts.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you Alan for dropping that. And hey, if you
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: are listening, we.
• 35:28
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• 35:31
  Speaker 3: five star rating on whichever platform you're listening to. This
• 35:33
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• 35:35
  Speaker 3: comment there as well, if you want to. But this
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: one really peaqued my interest. It was from Dave mel
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: but forty six. I don't know where Dave is from
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: or how old he would be, but.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's probably born in nineteen forty six.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Oh what makes you think that?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And where would he be from? Maybe Sydney or something
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: like that. But anyway, so Dave Melo wrote morons. That's
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: both of us good. At least he's being inclusive, complete
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: moronic podcast, full stop Newline. It's a shame to see
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Paul has lowered himself to work with the other idiot
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: full stop.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I do love that he actually listened to an episode
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, what was what was he expecting
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: this was going to be It's literally marked as explicit
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: on every platform that it's on. So thanks for tuning in, Dave,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and sorry that you're not funny. Oh, actually you don't
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: find things funny, so maybe I don't know you care
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: to comment?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Dave's an interesting one because Dave, I can't I can't
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: pay Dave out. Like Paul Bastard, sitting there with a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: bit of dribble on his deck, he doesn't have anything
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to go home to his city. Chucks on the ab
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: say a little bit of.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: UK Murder mysteries.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I'll watch, and when that's over he'll hop
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: into bed.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Don't know, I just have a feeling this guy looks
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a lot like Trevor anyway.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Anyhow.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Look, hey, I don't mind. I don't read you know me,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't read the comments. It's water off for ducks
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: back with me.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Care We do actually have quickly, we did get and look,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I apologize. We did get a stack of emails, a
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: stack of questions to the guy who was complaining about
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: his daughter's car getting fixed and parts. We've actually received
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: about three or four emails from people who have bought
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: brand new cars from different companies, generally Chinese companies who
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: have had problems with their cars and simply can't get parts.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Everything's under warranty and they've they've had to wait six
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: months plus, which I believe it or not. I am
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: actually doing some homework on that one. I've spoken to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: some legal experts. I've even spoken to this that's our
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: legal expert, which is Toadfish from Neighbors.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: No.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I actually have been looking into that, and honestly, there
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: is some something I want to bring up on that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: on the next episode. So please sit tight. You won't
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: have your parts by then anyway, so don't stress.
• 38:21
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• 38:25
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• 38:29
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• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Just quickly, quick question from the DMS. Hey, guys love
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the podcast. We're in the market for a new car
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: looking at leasing. Do you think prices have used ice
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: cars will drop with the uptake of evs in the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: next few years. Also, what would be your recommendations for
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: a new hybrid slash FEV under sixty k ish keep
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it up, Ball as you go first price wise, maybe
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the Artlander. I did have this hybrid, but I think
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit over sixty k that was fairly smooth.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: It just you know, it's very similar to the normal
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Santa Fe it's do you know what. I found it
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: kind of annoying because it's quite smooth up to about
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: sixty k's and then it's like this tiny little engine
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: fucking kicks in it. It's the loudest thing ever. So
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I found that annoying, but the fit out is excellent.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I actually would say the X Trail.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh, the E Force one, yeah, I hate that name,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: but yeah, the Hybrid one, yeah it's great.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay cool. So for me, it's going to be
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: slightly different.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: So the reason I'm going with a different approach is
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: because of the word leasing. At the moment, the government
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: has incentives in place. If you are doing a novated
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: lease and you're buying an electric vehicle and I believe
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a plugging hybrid vehicle, under the luxury car tax threshold,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you can actually claim one hundred percent FBT exemption. That
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: means you're going to be paying less tax to the government.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: You're going to be paying less taxable income, you'll have
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: less taxable income as well.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So having that said, I would have.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: A look at Oh my god, it's just shoving the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: biggest piece of pizza in his mouth.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I would have a look at.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: There you saying something important, a.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Look at the Outland of plug in hybrid, because that
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: meets that brief and it means that you're going to
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: save money. Keep in mind, though, if you are emailing
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: us from Victoria, that you also have to pay a
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: per kilometer tax on plug in hybrids, which is the
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: most idiotic thing in the world, because it's impossible to
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: actually to split the difference between when you're driving on
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: electric and when you're driving on internal combustion. So yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I would have a look at Outlander plug in hybrid
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: if you are doing at least it's a big enough car,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: really good to drive, and I think it'll take all
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: those boxes.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for out of time, Jesus Christ. That was
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: very comprehensive. Thank you, Pavel. Yeah, I'm glad I answered
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it with three different cars and then you just turned
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to comment into a conversation.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 41:04
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• 41:08
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• 41:11
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• 41:19
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• 41:23
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• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to jazz this little area up. Normally
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I'm in the studio with you, but today I'm obviously working.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you need you need a quick little trip
• 41:33
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• 41:39
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• 41:43
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• 41:50
  Speaker 1: for joining us, everybody,