Latest / Foul Territory / Splash Hit Territory: Giants ace Logan Webb dishes on Gold Glove, Tony Vitello, Justin Verlander

Transcript

Splash Hit Territory: Giants ace Logan Webb dishes on Gold Glove, Tony Vitello, Justin Verlander · Foul Territory

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: All right, splash It Podcast.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: It's our third show.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: I'm fp Santangela, washed up has been Giant, current Giant.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Broadcaster Susan Sluster for The Chronicle is a frequent guest
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: on the show, but today it's all about our special guest.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: He's going to join us for the first half of
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: the show. He is a gold Glove winner and the
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Giants a slogan web webby. Thanks for coming on, Mat,
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: How you doing.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, tell us about the gold Glove. That's pretty
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: cool and how that came into fruition and the award itself.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's the coolest trophy in all the baseball
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: besides the big one that's right there in the clubhouse
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: when you walk on the right. But talk about winning
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: the gold.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Glove, Yeah, it was definitely something I you know, I
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: didn't I wanted to get better on defense.
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily want to.
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't like gold Glove or bust, right,
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that's Patty's goal. I think now that
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: he's you know, done it a couple of times, and
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: but I just wanted to kind of get better at defense.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: I felt like, especially holding runners.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that was that big of a part
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: of it, but it was.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: And I just wanted to put the team, honestly, in
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: a better position. I think I was hurting myself and
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: and the team by, you know, letting guys run all
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: over me. And I just I wanted to get better
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: at it. And uh, you know, it's an honor to
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: win it. It's really cool that, you know. I didn't
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: know until I got on that interview a week or
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: two ago when they said we're the first one since
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Wayne Wright and YACHTI. I feel like anytime you're in
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: a conversation with with those two guys, it's, uh, it's
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: really special. And uh yeah, I got to go to
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: the ceremony in New York. They put on an amazing
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: event at the Plaza. Got to meet a bunch of
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: cool guys and and people there, and yeah, the award
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: is is really cool. I don't get to see mine
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: until next year when they I finally get to go
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: out there with the other guys and accept it during.
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: Before one of the games.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I I got to when if
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: you saw the video meets seeing the glove for the
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: But it was.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: It was really cool and uh happy I can share,
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: especially with Patty too. You know, he's one of the
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: best defenders in baseball, if not the best if you
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: look at metrics and other other stuff.
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: But being able to say I can do it with
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: him was was awesome.
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: Look, you and I, You and you and I talked
• 2:34
  Speaker 4: a lot about, especially early in the season, about the
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: work you were doing about holding runners. How did somebody
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: help you with that? Like, was there were there any
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: real keys for you for that, because you I'm sure
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: you know, but like by the mid middle of the season,
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: you were so far in front of the other pitchers
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: in terms of all the metrics on holding runners. It
• 2:56
  Speaker 4: was outrageous and it was it just took like kind
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: of the off season and in the start of the
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: season working on it. So that was really incredible.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it Uh it started honestly the year before,
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: which is funny because I was like the third worst
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: defender at the pitcher position. But we were trying to
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: work on some different things and it just had a
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: bad spring. I was trying to be quick. I was
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: trying to and Bomo was like, you know, don't worry
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: about that. We want you to make your pitches. And
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: it didn't hurt necessarily that much, but I felt like
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: I just I think the Cardinal Game, I told you guys,
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: the Cardinal Game the year before was really tough. Thankfully,
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: I had a guy over there that I knew, mister
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Brandon Uh, that was like, hey, you gotta clean some
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: of this stuff up, and.
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: I did you know. I worked on it. I tried
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: to get better.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: I definitely had some I mean, the game nowadays it's
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: it goes off of tips and and crazy enough. I mean,
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it. I was always would always wonder
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: why guys would steal on me so easily. But there's tips,
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: there's tips that involve that. There's cameras everywhere now so
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: I was just kind of doing some some stuff that
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: would keep the same rhythm, the same taps, you know.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: I I know, you watch Gosman throw. You got a
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: bunch of the leg taps, and I kind of probably
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: watched them and started doing it, and I realized I
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: was at that point tip in a little bit. Guys
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: would know when I was going home. So a lot
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: of people JP Boumel Rhyano, Matt William, Mark Halber. I
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: mean it was a whole group. Garvin Alston. I, I
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: really I would try my best. And in bullpens, you know,
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: when you first show up, you're throwing pens and a
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: lot of the times you're just trying.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: To get a good feel for stuff.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: And I would ask them and put the clock out
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: there and see if I can try to hold a
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: little bit better and you know, be a little quicker.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: And I think once I think I got into a game,
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: and uh, I know in spring training everyone tries to
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: steal and h the first couple of games, I was
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: just trying to be a little quicker. I was trying
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: to be try some different things with the clock and
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: you know, change the tempo a little bit. And it
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: was working. And I don't think I had a stolen
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: base attempt in spring, which was I was like, maybe
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: I'm doing something right.
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: So I just try to keep it going well.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you're being modest right now. I
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: mean you you have made the improvements in holding runners,
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: but you're also an athlete out there, and you know
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse and pitchers aren't athletes.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: We go back and forth all the time.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: But if you're a high school quarterback and all the
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: plays you made, the one that stands out to me
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: this year. There were some cool ones, but getting over
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: on the double play against the Dodgers and the emotion
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: you showed after touching the base. I mean, you've had
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: the diving plays where you dive at first base, but like,
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: I think you're selling yourself a little bit short. It's
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: not just about holding runners like you're an athlete out
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: there when you pitched.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I try to be you know, it is the the
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: joke in the clubhouse that pitchers aren't athletes. And to
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: be honest, when you look at most pictures run and
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: then you look at some of these guys run, it's
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: it's it holds some truth. But yeah, I think, especially
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: because I get so many grund balls, I feel like
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: I have to be.
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: You know able.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get better at catching balls too.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: Times when you know, there's a lot of balls hit harder,
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: especially right back at me, so I gotta be good
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: at that. And then the getting over part. I wasn't
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: great at that. I mean, there's just so many parts
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: that I felt like I needed to be better at
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: to help the team out, you know, not getting you know,
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: a ball hits gets hit the first I gotta get
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: over If I'm late, not only is that hurting you know,
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: the team, but it's also hurting yourself, but by not
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: getting the double play to get out of the inning.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: So I just wanted to.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: I just felt like.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: I needed to in all those parts of the game.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: I need to get better.
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: At Yeah, you're keeping a lot more double plays in
• 7:05
  Speaker 4: line too, with coldon the runners. Yeah, yeah, like and
• 7:08
  Speaker 4: every way, and you're getting over to first better to
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: complete the back end of some of those.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: Double place Yeah, and I together perfect. Well, that's what
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: kind of JP said at the end of last year.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, if we just get better at this,
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: you might have I don't know, eight eight to ten
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: less runs at the end of the season. And you
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: know that's a you know, that's a big part of
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: your like not only for the team, but like your
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: e RA and some other stuff, and like, why don't
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: we just try to clean up a little bit? And
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: I think at the end of the year, JP kind
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: of showed me a stat. And I don't know how
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: all the analysts do all this stuff, but they can
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: figure out, like if you didn't let them steal the base.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: You've saved this many runs and I you know, saved
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: a decent amount of runs. So that's what the name
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: the name of the game is. Just trying to keep
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: the team in the game as long as possible. And
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: if I'm you know, being a dumbass out there and
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: giving up a stolen base, because I'm you know, I
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: feel bad about it. So, like I said, trying to
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: get better for for all those guys.
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: And you got Patty.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: Behind the plate, so give him a chance to throw
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: the guy out.
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you talk about that.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: I mean you could have won a Silver Slugger Award too,
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: if that was still an award for pitchers, you might
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: have won that too. But we got to get to
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: the off season news. Tony Vitello, he's he's your new manager.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: What are your impressions. When was the first time you met?
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: What can you share with us about your new skipper
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: and how you feel about that whole thing.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew about it a little bit. I knew
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: we were talking to him, and then I think I
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: knew a couple of days early, and then.
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: I reached out to him.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: We texted a little back and forth, and I was
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: in Nashville actually this last week for a wedding and
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I got to meet him in person, which was awesome.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: He's gonna bring a lot of enthusiasm, you know. He's uh,
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: you know, a Brillian and I think baseball guy, and
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: he just wants I think the big thing for for
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: him and I think something that is going to be
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: great for us. He just wants everyone on the same page,
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: like this is this is what we're.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: Trying to do. The main goal is to win at all.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Costs, and uh, I think it's gonna be great. I
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: texted all the guys after where I was like, I
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: don't know if anyone's met him, but I did get
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: get to meet him, and I you know, I texted Chatie, Willie,
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: I text all us saying, this guy's this guy is
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be awesome and I can't I can't wait to
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: work with him.
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: When when you first when you first heard about it, Logan,
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: was there any like like, I don't know thought in
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: your mind like, well, you know, he hasn't had any
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: pro experience of any kind, playing, coaching, managing. Uh, maybe
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: there might be some veterans that might not totally be
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: on board with That was that a concern, and do
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: you do you feel like the personality and the experience
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: and the success he's had at the level he as
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: just like wipes any of that out.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't know how much much all
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: that really matters, I think. I mean, there's people that
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: are in the game for twenty years and they get
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: a manager job and they don't do a good job.
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: So it's it's all I think at the end of
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: the day, like what.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: Tony wants, which is like the unity, the team part everything,
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: everyone on the same page.
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's I mean, that's the main thing.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: I think when you get you know, we're with each
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: other for a long time, and there's times when you're
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: sick of each other.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like I things aren't going well.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of lots of times this year
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: where you know there's long stretches, right, we lose fourteen
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: to fifteen at home, whatever the number was. I think
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you find a guy
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: like like Tony who is going to try to keep
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: the room together and try to keep the everyone motivated.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: I I think the the big thing is like shortening
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: though you're gonna have moments where you might I don't
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: know what the number is, but I know the Dodgers
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: at multiple times this year had times when.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: They things weren't going well. It happens. Like I said,
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: it's a long season.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: But I think the teams that can keep those periods
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: shorter than others.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: Are the teams that have success.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of the big thing that
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: a guy with energy like that will will try to bring.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Does Buster and Zach keep you in the loop on
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: who the candidates are? Do they bounce it off maybe
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: the core veteran players to see what they think and
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: get your feelings on stuff.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: I mean a little bit. Yeah, you know, I talked
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: to Buster at the end of the year. I talked
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: to Zach at the end of the year. I didn't
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: know any of that was gonna happen. They didn't tell
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: me that, you know, Bomo would wouldn't be back. But
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: you know, we talked about players. I think I think
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Buster and them do a good job keeping it like
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: two positions like I can't tell you what a second
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: baseman or you know, any position like I can.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you who's good and who's not.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: You know, I I don't really know, but I feel
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: like they do a good job of asking about, Hey,
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: how do you feel about this picture? Not as much
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: as the old regime, I would say I definitely heard
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: a lot more from those guys about things.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: I think Buster kind of likes to keep it to himself,
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: which which is great.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's not my job
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: to get the guys or.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: I think. I just got to focus on myself.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Try to get better in the offseason, and you know,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: try to win as many games as I can next year.
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: Obviously there's some staff changes and JP and Garvin JPI
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: leaving and Garvin's not coming back. How do you feel
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: about those? Those are obviously the guys you worked most
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: closely with, and you know that you'll be looking at
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: a new pitching coach, assisting pitching coach or bullpenco whatever
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: they call that position.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been with j JP since twenty twenty one,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: so that's definitely gonna be kind of a change for me.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I've I've very close with JP. He's helped
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: me a lot in a lot of different ways. I
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: thought he did a great job last year. I thought
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Garvin did a great job last year. I've known Garvin
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: for before he was with the Giants, so yeah, it's
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be it'll be different. I'm excited for both of
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: them wherever. I know JP's going to Atlanta. Uh, he
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: gets to be back with Shortzy, which I'm excited for
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: for him. And I know Antoine's over there too, so
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: it'll be that'll be a good staff. And uh, I
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: don't know where she's going yet, but I know whatever
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: team that does get him is getting a great guy
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: and a great pitching coach.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: So but yeah, excited to.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not, like I said, I'm not
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: in the loop that much for all this stuff, so
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm sure. I'm sure Buster is
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: gonna pick a great guy. I know Tony will pick
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: a great guy. So excited to work with whoever. I think.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: I think too.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: It gets to the point where.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: You know, as a as a veteran guy, I don't
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: need I'm not saying I don't need. I do need,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: but not as much as I did when I was younger.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: So really it's just getting on the same page with
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: whoever they bring in.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna ask you, Well, you
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: can textbuster that you want Max Schurzer to be a giant.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Nobody was gonna ask you that, like maybe a little
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: bit deeper into like it's your eighth year in the
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: big leagues, you're a salty veteran now, Like there's certain
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: hitting coaches that spoke my love language, some that didn't,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: and when they don't, it's frustrating and you're just not
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: speaking the same language. So at this point in your career,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: like you just said, kind of it's not that important,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: but you talked about JP and the holding the runners,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and and it is.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: I'm okay, I'm gonna rephrase that.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: It is very important, Okay, I I.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So how important is it to you at this
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: point in your career?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: This long winded question? I guess. I guess what I
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: was kind of saying was more like the scouting part
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: of it, like before a game. I think also too,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: with like catch play and bullpens, Like it's more I
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: would say with the older guys, it's more like, hey,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: do you see anything, Like I'm throwing a bullpen.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I know what I'm seeing, I know what I'm feeling.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I'm to the point now where I feel like I
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: can change on my own, like, I know that that's
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: not right.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: But it's nice to have.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: And that's what was great about JP is I've had
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: him for so long where I could be like, hey,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: what am I doing?
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: And he could be like, remember when we did this
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two and.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: It got you right back? So I guess, I guess
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: it is very very important. And I was kind of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: more thinking the scouting part of things and stuff like that. Oh,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: it makes sense.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, busters sometimes in the previous administration
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: bouncing some stuff off of you about you know, potential
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: free agents and additions and stuff like that. We're kind
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: of up to that time again. I talked to Greg
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Johnson last week and he mentioned he thinks that you
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: guys need at least one more Veterans Starter, depending on
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: what happens with Justin Verlander and whether it comes back
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: or not. Maybe too so obviously Schuser's names out there
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: for obvious reasons. Justin's out there. How do you kind
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: of see things? Do you do you feel like you
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: need another Veterans Starter or two? And do you have
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: any insights?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I no, I I think this was a a lot
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: of weird things happen this year. You know, Justin gets
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: hurt kind of in a tough part of the year,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: and then you know Rupe getting hurt really hurt us
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: in San Diego, and then you know there's some other
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: things that happened.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: You know, I still think.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: The organization and all of us think the world of
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Hayden bird Song, you know, I think, uh, like I said,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: just some weird stuff happened.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Uh, I think there's still a bright future for for
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Hayden and and we're excited about that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And there's some other guys you can be really excited about.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I think Wiz'd Hunt's a really good picture.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: There's a ton of young guys down there. I think
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Trevor McDonald at the end of the year was uh,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Really impressive.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: You know, we got to see him last the year before,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: like the last game, he was like a spot, Hey,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: let's throw three innings and he did amazing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: And then this year he came in and I thought
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: he did a great job again.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of really good pieces that we have. Obviously,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: you know, me and Robbie and you know, I would
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: love to have Justin back. I thought Justin back to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the kind of the scouting part of things helped me
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: so much, uh in my career, not only just mentality,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know, the scouting part of it, seeing reading different
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: things that I might you know not I've seen before.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And I would love justin to come back. Like I said,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: it's not my decision. I don't get to decide these things.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I saw the Max thing. I know Tony knows them
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: from a long time ago, so and I'm sure I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: sure it would be very similar.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Learning as much as I can, and then.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I I think at the end, I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: always try to find guys and get better in certain ways.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of comments about trying to get
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: starting pitching and and and other other spots. So like
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I said, just show up and try to try to
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: do try to get better as for myself and then
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: kind of let the other pieces fall as they may.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You're getting better right now. You just came from your workout.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe take us quickly through like what your off season workouts,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like how hard you work and how that's evolved over
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the years, because I know for myself like that was
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: always an evolutionary process, Like different off seasons were different things.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And are you working on anything different, like different pitches
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: or anything. I saw the back and forth with Brent
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Rooker about the split knuckle ball and splits like the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: thing with Yamamoto now in the world.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take us through like your off season.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Workout what you're going through right now.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Well, first off, I'm just trying to get Brent to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to think of something else, right, Like, if I tell
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: him I'm throwing a splitter knuckleball, he'll try he'll actually
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: believe me for a second. He's no chance he actually
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: believes me. But but yeah, I think, yeah, they're always
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: trying to find new ways to get a pitch better.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You know, last offseason it was trying to get my
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: change up back to the where it was the year before.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It was adding the cutter, trying to there's always tink
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: tinkering to try to get maybe an inch more on
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: my sweeper or you know, maybe add an extra tick
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of velocity, which I try to do every year and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it never happens. But but yeah, there's always new things.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I think as you get older, you learn your body
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a little bit better.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Definitely, I don't try to lift as much, like as
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: heavy as I used to. I'm not trying to deadlift
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the world or squat the world or bench as much
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: as I can. I think that's, uh, that was a younger,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: younger me thing. Now it's kind of hurts a little
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: bit more so it's just trying to I think it's
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: more maintaining now I have done it. I've been at
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the same gym for six years now push Performance here
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in Arizona, and I've loved the workouts.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I do it during the season as well, and.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Just trying to trying to get better in different areas,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm trying to make my hips a
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: little more better for you know, whatever that is. You know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: there's always uh parts of the off season where you're
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: trying to get a little more athletic or you're trying
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to do different things.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it. Uh, definitely.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I thought at the end of the year, I saw
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I there's some mechanical things that I was really excited
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: about that I felt, you know, talking to people, and
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep going with that, try to get
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: better at that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you're a strikeout guy now four strikeouts. You led
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the National League in strikeouts? Is that your new thing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Are you just blowing guys away next year.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe it's a fluke here. I won the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: gold Glove. I was the worst defender and I won
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the gold Glove. And I'm not a strikeout guy, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I struck out all, you know, more guys than I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: ever have. But no, that's that's kind of the evolvment thing. That's,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to get better in certain ways. Definitely,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I think Justin was a big part of the strikeouts
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: going up, you know, finding new ways to to get
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: strikes early and counts, throwing different pitches.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I felt like before I'd get in trouble with it
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: too where I would just kind of heavily lean on
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: my change up and if it's the eighth or ninth
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: time the guy's seen it in a game, it's probably
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: not going to be as effective. And learning I can
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: throw other pitches and different counts, and I thought that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: was really cool. And yes, try to get to try
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to get a little better, I think definitely, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I do think the extra velo is a thing. I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: not chasing one hundred, but I think if I can
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: maintain it a little longer in games, I know, I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I can get to ninety four, ninety five
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: early in a game, and then by the end of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the game it's ninety two. So if I can maintain
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a little better, and that's part of the mechanical things
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: that I'm excited about.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Susan, you asked one more, and I'll ask one more
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and we'll let them go.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I've got the really important one. Since it's YAF season,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering how you're doing in the fantasy football I have.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I so in the Giants one, I think I'm in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a playoff spot right now. I think I'm six and four,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: so not bad. I'm honestly five hundred in like every league,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: which I don't know if I'm excited about that that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not bad in any league, but.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: It's been a weird I feel like it's been a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: weird football year. You know. I have one league where
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I have like.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Six of the best players and they're just not working
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: out for me, and I'm not in the playoffs in
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: that league. But in another league, I don't have as
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: good as players and I'm in the playoffs. So it's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: just it's all weird.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I would say I'm rooting for you in the Giants one,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: except for I think we would all love to see
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: you be the bat boy for a day. So I
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: don't know's that's one.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Well Chappie.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So Chappie won the league last year and his team
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: is not very good this year. So I'm hoping we
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: get to see Matt Chapman, uh bat boy sighting this year.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: He'd actually have to take it. Yeah, last one, Logan,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: we let you go. Thank you so much for coming on.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: This is huge for our podcast. You're first guest ever.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It's been great. I know you just want to gold glove.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I know Asai Young means a lot to you too.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But what would a World Championship in the San Francisco
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Giants uniform in the Logan web?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be the best, you know, I I've I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: came up in an error with uh. You know, there's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys still there from the championship years.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It was bomb I mean, I'm gonna keep naming Bombbuster,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: crab Bell all these guys, right. And I got to
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: see firsthand how much it meant to these guys and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: how much the Giants mean.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: To them, and it was really cool.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And then I had my first really full season was
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: twenty one and we won one hundred and seven games,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and I thought there was no chance that any team
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: was going to beat us. We I just felt that way,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and we came close, not really that close, but you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: one run away from going to the CS and and I, uh,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you know, I just thought that was gonna how it was,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: how it was going to be the rest of my
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: career here, Right's uh, it's the Giants were just going
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to keep winning and unfortunately hasn't worked out. It's starting
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to get, you know, more and more frustrating at the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: end of seasons. But it's it's it's just something that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I want to do. I mean, I think everybody wants
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: if you're playing the big leagues, you want to win
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a World Series, but it's especially it would be especially
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: great to win it in a Giants uniform. I'm I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: hoping I'm here my whole career, but that's not always.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: It doesn't always work out that way. So you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I got three more years left on my contract, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I just hope, you know, hopefully it's this year, right
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and hopefully we you know, uh, Buster goes out and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: signs all the best players and we trade for all
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the best players. But but no, I I think, uh,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I think we're on the right track. I think we've
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: got a good corps guy core group of guys. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: think bringing a guy like Tony is gonna be a
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: huge part of it. And uh, I'm super excited for
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: this year. But I feel like I'm going away from
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: your question. Yes, that is the that is something that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I I, you know, hopefully look forward.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: To doing in a Giants uniform, you know.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got all the guys, the boat she got,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you know, bringing saves back. You're just all the all
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the it's it's exciting.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's exciting.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Webby.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, man, I know you're working out. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: take time for us. It means a lot to us,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: bro and I look forward to seeing you soon.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, key, and we really appreciate that. Yeah, thank you
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: guys for having Mebby.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye,