Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / MISSING MOM MAMTA, 28: "PINK STAIN" ON CARPET, BLOODY BATHTUB SEIZED, HUSBAND SUSPECT
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the missing mom Manta just
- 0:09Speaker 1: twenty eight.
- 0:11Speaker 2: In the last hours, we learn.
- 0:12Speaker 1: About a pink stain according to police, on the carpet
- 0:18Speaker 1: in the home. We also learn invisible to the naked eye,
- 0:23Speaker 1: but discovered with luminol blood specs on the bathroom calking.
- 0:30Speaker 1: That bathtub now seized by police. I'm Nancy Grace, this
- 0:36Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. Being a nurse was
- 0:44Speaker 3: her absolute dream and she was completely committed to it.
- 0:49Speaker 1: You don't become a nicku nurse without being a very,
- 0:53Speaker 1: very dedicated person. The gender reveal had already happened. They
- 0:58Speaker 1: knew they were having a baby girl.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Nothing was going to stop her.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Where is Mamta?
- 1:07Speaker 1: In the last hour's disturbing evidence is being uncovered.
- 1:13Speaker 2: We learn not only has luminol.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Detective blood in the bathroom, the bathtub has been seized,
- 1:21Speaker 1: also issues regarding blood traces in the master bedroom. Again,
- 1:27Speaker 1: thank you for being with us in our search for Mamta.
- 1:31Speaker 1: If you know or think you have evidence on her
- 1:33Speaker 1: whereabouts tip line seven zero three three six one one
- 1:38Speaker 1: one three six repeat seven zero three three six one one, one, three, six,
- 1:44Speaker 1: recall her entire family lives in Nepaul.
- 1:50Speaker 2: She's got nobody. The search for her was launched by
- 1:53Speaker 2: her friends at a baby shower.
- 1:56Speaker 1: They banded together to bring her case to the national
- 2:00Speaker 1: forefront and they have what does her husband have to say?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Let's start friends at WUSA.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been very terrible time. You know, like we
- 2:10Speaker 4: are just you know, like my baby and then myself,
- 2:13Speaker 4: we are just waiting minute and second, every minute and second,
- 2:16Speaker 4: just waiting like to get the you know, I don't know.
- 2:20Speaker 1: How to explain and more from our friends at WUSA.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Listen to Mamta's husband.
- 2:27Speaker 4: Be like, you know, very good, like you know since
- 2:30Speaker 4: like two months, you know, like before that, you know,
- 2:32Speaker 4: one time we have like some arguments because you know, yeah, yeah.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Now I'm very curious about one other, well many other
- 2:43Speaker 1: statements made by her husband a reshpot.
- 2:46Speaker 2: But I want you to hear this from WUSA nine.
- 2:49Speaker 4: I'm the sufferer one. I'm the suffering my baby and
- 2:52Speaker 4: then myself, you know, like we are suffering the most.
- 2:56Speaker 2: She's the one missing.
- 2:58Speaker 1: I'm hearing about invisible to the naked eye, blood in
- 3:03Speaker 1: the bathtob blood and the caulking around the edges of
- 3:07Speaker 1: the bathtob blood traces in the bedroom, and he's suffering.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Can I hear that one more time?
- 3:17Speaker 1: This is Manta's husband speaking to WUSA nine.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Listen, I'm the sofferer one.
- 3:22Speaker 4: I'm the soffering my baby and then myself. You know,
- 3:25Speaker 4: like we are suffering the most.
- 3:27Speaker 2: No, you're not. You are not suffering the most.
- 3:31Speaker 1: That's just the kind of statement I don't want to hear.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel to makes sense of
- 3:36Speaker 1: what we know right now. But I've got to go
- 3:38Speaker 1: before I go to our investigative reporter, I've got to
- 3:41Speaker 1: go straight out to one of Mamta's dear friends, who
- 3:45Speaker 1: actually brought this case to the forefront, who has been
- 3:49Speaker 1: looking for mom to, who has been at her own
- 3:52Speaker 1: expense being out there making digital flyers, putting them out
- 3:59Speaker 1: speaking for my has created a go fund me to
- 4:02Speaker 1: help the organization of the search. With me is Nadia Navarro?
- 4:07Speaker 1: Did you hear the husband say, and I quote, I'm
- 4:13Speaker 1: the suffering one. I'm suffering, we're suffering the most.
- 4:18Speaker 5: What I think?
- 4:18Speaker 3: He's a ridiculous man, truly, I think.
- 4:22Speaker 2: A lot more than that. Can you expound.
- 4:27Speaker 3: He just has no empathy and he's Tonda.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, I think that you are kind
- 4:37Speaker 1: and gracious. I'm not let me go straight out to
- 4:41Speaker 1: Adrian pacarel who is an acquaintance of the husband.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Mister Pacarell served fourteen.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Years in the US Army, has been a congressional candidate,
- 4:55Speaker 1: and was an acquaintance with the husband. Not Esh, but
- 5:01Speaker 1: mister Parker, well, thank you for being with us. First
- 5:04Speaker 1: of all, you believe that you have been misconstrued in
- 5:10Speaker 1: the press, and I want to get to that in
- 5:13Speaker 1: just one moment, But first I want to deal with.
- 5:15Speaker 2: The facts before us. His wife is missing, the mother
- 5:21Speaker 2: of his child.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Did you have any idea this guy would come out
- 5:27Speaker 1: with a statement I'm the one suffering.
- 5:29Speaker 6: First of all, thank you for having me this statement.
- 5:34Speaker 7: The guy pretty much if you asked me, I will
- 5:38Speaker 7: call him as a psychopath completely. A lot of lies there,
- 5:44Speaker 7: a lot of lies.
- 5:45Speaker 6: He is lying again and again. Even the conversation he.
- 5:49Speaker 7: Was having with some of the veterans who decided to
- 5:53Speaker 7: step in to ensure the babies protect him.
- 5:57Speaker 8: We did not know the extreme he has gone, but
- 6:00Speaker 8: we definitely had a doubt that he has something.
- 6:03Speaker 1: To do with it, because well, hold on, let me
- 6:06Speaker 1: be very clear at mister Pocarel before you go any further.
- 6:11Speaker 1: When you have a friend or an acquaintance and you
- 6:14Speaker 1: know them in routine life, you may have no idea
- 6:19Speaker 1: that they have a dark side.
- 6:21Speaker 2: In fact, having prosecuted many many.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Violent felonies, more than I can even count, and worked
- 6:27Speaker 1: at the batter Women's Center, one thing about batterers and abusers.
- 6:31Speaker 2: They can be very charming. And I've got Scott Peterson
- 6:35Speaker 2: on my mind.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard of him, but
- 6:37Speaker 1: he was convicted the murder of his wife and unborn son.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Yet everybody that knows him, other than Lacey's family, think
- 6:46Speaker 1: he was very charming outgoing the life of the party
- 6:52Speaker 1: you would never suspect. So I'm very curious about this dichotomy.
- 7:00Speaker 1: How someone can be so charming and likable to his friends,
- 7:05Speaker 1: but then at home he is.
- 7:08Speaker 2: A violent abuser.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And again, this guy mom to his husband Naresh Bot,
- 7:16Speaker 1: has not been convicted of anything, and under our jurisprudence,
- 7:22Speaker 1: he remains innocent until proven guilty if in fact he
- 7:26Speaker 1: ever goes to Traumba. Back to what I'm asking to Adrian, Pacarel.
- 7:30Speaker 1: You stated that you believe he lied to a group
- 7:34Speaker 1: of veterans he was speaking to what was he saying?
- 7:37Speaker 8: The first question we all as there is do you
- 7:41Speaker 8: have anything to do with.
- 7:45Speaker 6: Bus?
- 7:45Speaker 8: The other veteran asks the same thing, But I was
- 7:49Speaker 8: just watching and trying to listen to his answer because.
- 7:51Speaker 6: I told him, no, matter whatever it is, be honest, army.
- 7:56Speaker 6: We have you know, equals one of them. He is honest,
- 8:00Speaker 6: and I say, make sure you be honest whatever it is.
- 8:04Speaker 6: But he never answer that question, like if somebody.
- 8:08Speaker 8: Asked me about my spouse and has anything to do
- 8:12Speaker 8: with it, it must likely might presently be.
- 8:14Speaker 9: Are you out of your mind? What are you trying
- 8:17Speaker 9: to say? You know those kinds of things. But he
- 8:19Speaker 9: always say we haven't had any argument or since apric
- 8:25Speaker 9: four or five months.
- 8:27Speaker 6: He'd never say yes or no. And that was right
- 8:30Speaker 6: there the indication that I picked, okay, he has something
- 8:35Speaker 6: to do.
- 8:36Speaker 1: And joining me is a very dear friend of mom
- 8:39Speaker 1: tes Nadia Navarro, and a friend and acquaintance with the
- 8:45Speaker 1: husband and a restpot.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So when you guys asked him, just be honest, did
- 8:50Speaker 2: you have anything to do with it? He wouldn't say yes.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Or no.
- 8:53Speaker 6: I exactly never directly.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Asked him old on, I'm throwing this to Adrian, sorry,
- 8:58Speaker 1: Nadia agent. So the question is did he ever did
- 9:02Speaker 1: He never say yes or no.
- 9:04Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 9:05Speaker 8: He would never say yes or no. He would always
- 9:08Speaker 8: say we haven't had fight or even simple argument for four.
- 9:12Speaker 6: Or five months.
- 9:14Speaker 8: And that is really the first thing I picked on
- 9:17Speaker 8: the first time I met him in his house.
- 9:20Speaker 6: First time I went to his house with other veterans,
- 9:24Speaker 6: because before this event, I have probably met him about
- 9:27Speaker 6: two to three times during the US.
- 9:29Speaker 2: So he went into the home. When was that?
- 9:32Speaker 8: So I was notified on the stext by the empolice reporter.
- 9:39Speaker 6: Like I said, I knew him as a Nepali veteran,
- 9:43Speaker 6: Nepali American veteran. There's a group.
- 9:45Speaker 8: When I talked on the phone, I asked him because
- 9:48Speaker 8: I'm an it is the survivor, and I'm a.
- 9:50Speaker 6: Mental health advocat too, So I asked.
- 9:52Speaker 8: Him if there's any bad talks in his head? He says,
- 9:56Speaker 8: a human you know here and there.
- 9:59Speaker 7: So I immediately wanted to sit down and talk to him and.
- 10:04Speaker 6: To see his behavior and be able to the time.
- 10:08Speaker 8: So from there my biggest focus.
- 10:12Speaker 2: So much ground to cover.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Let's switch off what we know of the husband's questionable
- 10:19Speaker 1: or curious behavior and talk about the evidence that we
- 10:23Speaker 1: believe was found in the home. Joining me is not
- 10:25Speaker 1: a saint to bone, soou investigative reporter of Fox five, Nana,
- 10:30Speaker 1: thank you.
- 10:30Speaker 2: For being with us.
- 10:31Speaker 1: What's your understanding of what has been found inside mom
- 10:36Speaker 1: to his home?
- 10:36Speaker 5: Hey, Nancy, thanks for having me.
- 10:38Speaker 10: So A lot of different things came out in the
- 10:40Speaker 10: court documents, but what we know for sure is that
- 10:43Speaker 10: there were some blood stains found somewhere near the master
- 10:48Speaker 10: bedroom and bathroom area. We also know that their bathtub
- 10:54Speaker 10: has been taking away for evidence. We were actually outside,
- 10:58Speaker 10: I believe it was Wensday when Prince William County Police
- 11:02Speaker 10: and NASA's Park Police had the home taped off in
- 11:06Speaker 10: caution tape. Crime scene investigators going in and out with bags,
- 11:11Speaker 10: paper bags, plastic bag, gloves, coming out of the house
- 11:14Speaker 10: with carpet and different items from inside the residence.
- 11:18Speaker 5: But what we know for sure is that there was some.
- 11:20Speaker 10: Form of bloodstains found in the master bedroom and that bathroom.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Joining me is non essential. Bones from Fox five also
- 11:29Speaker 1: with me. Brian Fitzgibbons, Director operations USPA Nationwide Security.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Brian, thank you so much for being with us.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Have you analyzed the evidence that you were learning about
- 11:43Speaker 1: taken from the home and discovered in the home?
- 11:45Speaker 11: Thank you for having me, me Nancy. In addition to that,
- 11:49Speaker 11: blood investigators found a tremendous amount of digital evidence and
- 11:54Speaker 11: that's going to be crucial in this case as they
- 11:57Speaker 11: pieced together Noursh's active in the last days that they
- 12:02Speaker 11: were sure that Mamto was at that residence.
- 12:05Speaker 1: You know that's very cryptic, Brian Fitzgibbons, And we have
- 12:08Speaker 1: one hour to cover the evidence. Brian Fitzgibbons. When you
- 12:12Speaker 1: say there was a lot of digital evidence, let's.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Just break it down.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Are you referring to searches made on Google on Nushbot's computer,
- 12:22Speaker 1: on his devices, such as how long to Mary after
- 12:27Speaker 1: spouse dies?
- 12:29Speaker 2: That search? That digital search?
- 12:31Speaker 1: Are you more concerned with what happened debt after spouse dies?
- 12:37Speaker 1: What happened debt after spouse dies?
- 12:43Speaker 2: Oh? How long to Mary after spouse dies? Those are the.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Google searches among many others that we have just learned about.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Is that troubling to you? Is that the digital evidence?
- 12:57Speaker 2: Are you referring to the Ping p I n G evidence.
- 13:01Speaker 5: This is going to be everything, Nancy.
- 13:03Speaker 11: So you have the ping in Louden County, ten to
- 13:05Speaker 11: fifteen miles to the north as a potential disposal site,
- 13:11Speaker 11: and you're dealing with these Google searches which resonate and
- 13:14Speaker 11: sound quite a bit like the Brian Walsh case and
- 13:17Speaker 11: Cohazart Massachusetts.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Guys, we are talking about the evidence found inside the home.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons has led us.
- 13:24Speaker 1: To another prong of the evidence, and that is a
- 13:27Speaker 1: digital evidence. You know what I like about digital evidence
- 13:30Speaker 1: and blood evidence. It cannot be refuted. You might want
- 13:35Speaker 1: to put a spin on it, but it cannot be refuted.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons.
- 13:40Speaker 5: That's correct, Nancy.
- 13:41Speaker 11: There's going to be a we call it digital exhaust
- 13:45Speaker 11: from Nouresha's activities immediately following whatever happened with Mamta that
- 13:50Speaker 11: led to our disappearance. And it seems like investigators have
- 13:53Speaker 11: a mountain of this right now.
- 13:55Speaker 12: Discovering a pink stain on the carpet in the master bedroom,
- 13:59Speaker 12: investigators noticed what appears to be a blood trail leading
- 14:02Speaker 12: from the bedroom to the master bedroom's bathroom, using Blue
- 14:05Speaker 12: Star technology in the bathroom. Detectives are shocked as the
- 14:09Speaker 12: entire bathroom floor is illuminated with what appears to be.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Blood crime stories With Nancy Gray.
- 14:25Speaker 13: The last time I spoke to her was July twenty eighth.
- 14:29Speaker 13: Got a call from a friend I met at Mamta's
- 14:32Speaker 13: baby shower.
- 14:34Speaker 10: According to her co workers, she did not show up
- 14:37Speaker 10: for her shift on the first I.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Thought that was impossible. She would never have missed a ship.
- 14:44Speaker 3: I mean, nobody knew that she was missing.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Her neighbors were not even aware.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Her next door neighbors had no idea. I wasn't going
- 14:52Speaker 3: to let that happen.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Where is missing Mom? Mom?
- 14:56Speaker 1: Is she alive? Is there any chance she still alive?
- 15:01Speaker 1: Listen to what we've learned.
- 15:02Speaker 14: Investigators looking for Mom to Abot arrive at her home
- 15:05Speaker 14: with search warrants and walking in the front door, are
- 15:07Speaker 14: shocked to see the home in disarray. It appears that
- 15:10Speaker 14: luggage has been packed and in plain view for all
- 15:12Speaker 14: to see passports for Mamta's husband, Naresh and their daughter Nima.
- 15:16Speaker 14: Officers inside the home use blue Star technology, a forensicate,
- 15:20Speaker 14: allowing criminal investigation technicians with a complete tool to reveal
- 15:24Speaker 14: the presence of invisible blood traces at a crime scene,
- 15:27Speaker 14: uncovering pools of blood and blood spatter in the home.
- 15:30Speaker 14: In the master bedroom, the bed is moved to obstruct
- 15:33Speaker 14: access to the closet. After moving the bed, detectives observe
- 15:36Speaker 14: a light pink stain on the carpet they suspect to
- 15:38Speaker 14: be blood.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining US Director Operations usp
- 15:43Speaker 1: A Nationwide Security Brian Antel, all of our guests, thank
- 15:48Speaker 1: you for being with us, and to Nadia Navarro who
- 15:52Speaker 1: is a very dear friend of Mamta's.
- 15:55Speaker 2: I know this evidence must.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Be overwhelming to you to hear about bloodstains and potential
- 16:01Speaker 1: pools of blood and peeing evidence and it just.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Goes on and on. Is there a chance mom to
- 16:09Speaker 2: is alive?
- 16:12Speaker 1: Brian, if you could explain blue Star technology.
- 16:16Speaker 11: Blue Star technology, Nancy, is very similar to luminol, and
- 16:20Speaker 11: this is one of the most effective new blood reagents
- 16:23Speaker 11: in the markets used by crime scene and texts. That's
- 16:27Speaker 11: going to have very high sensitivity to detect traces of
- 16:31Speaker 11: blood that would be not seen by the naked eye.
- 16:35Speaker 2: You know, I'm very curious. One thing that is disturbing.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Amongst the many is the potential cleanup, because in a bathroom,
- 16:47Speaker 1: it could be argued you would expect to find whoever
- 16:50Speaker 1: lived there, You may expect to find some of their blood,
- 16:53Speaker 1: but when it's been cleaned up, or when there is
- 16:59Speaker 1: a great deal of blood. For instance, in the case
- 17:03Speaker 1: of Jennifer Dulo's missing mom of five out of Connecticut,
- 17:08Speaker 1: there was a vast quantity of blood in her garage
- 17:13Speaker 1: of blood elsewhere in her home. She and her husband
- 17:15Speaker 1: were separated at that time. Based on the amount of
- 17:19Speaker 1: blood that was found in her garage, it was easily
- 17:22Speaker 1: deduced that wherever.
- 17:23Speaker 2: She was, she was no longer alive.
- 17:27Speaker 1: To say to bone See joining us from Fox five,
- 17:32Speaker 1: a lot of items were taken from the home.
- 17:35Speaker 2: We know in particular, police are.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Looking at the bathtub and the bedroom carpet.
- 17:40Speaker 2: What can you tell us about items removed from the
- 17:42Speaker 2: home right now.
- 17:43Speaker 10: We've asked about these items that were pulls out of
- 17:46Speaker 10: their home, and police, like they've been doing for the
- 17:49Speaker 10: past couple of weeks, aren't sharing too much information with us.
- 17:52Speaker 10: But what we gathered is that this is all evidence
- 17:55Speaker 10: that will be used in this investigation.
- 17:58Speaker 5: But while we were at the house.
- 18:00Speaker 10: We also saw that police spend a lot of time
- 18:03Speaker 10: in the garage. They actually took some cardboard papers to
- 18:07Speaker 10: cover the windows so that the news crews outside couldn't
- 18:11Speaker 10: see what was.
- 18:12Speaker 5: Going on in this garage.
- 18:14Speaker 10: So, in addition to this bathtub and the carpets that
- 18:17Speaker 10: they removed from the house, we know that they were
- 18:20Speaker 10: focusing in this garage area.
- 18:22Speaker 5: What exactly was going on, we don't know. But it's
- 18:25Speaker 5: also important to note that court.
- 18:27Speaker 10: Documents showed as well as neighbors informed us that Naresh
- 18:31Speaker 10: sold his tesla not too long before police showed up
- 18:36Speaker 10: to the house with that search warrant.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Not essen to you, Bonci, You're absolutely correct. Listen.
- 18:41Speaker 12: On August nineteenth, Narisch Bot sells his tesla and friends
- 18:44Speaker 12: say he inquires about selling his house as well. When
- 18:47Speaker 12: investigators arrived to serve the search warrant, detectives find what
- 18:51Speaker 12: can only be described as a chaotic scene. The home
- 18:54Speaker 12: appears packed with a suitcase and passports for both Bot
- 18:57Speaker 12: and his daughter. Visible police speak to two individuals who
- 19:02Speaker 12: claim to reach Bot discusses selling his home. The same
- 19:05Speaker 12: day he sold his tesla.
- 19:07Speaker 1: To Angela Arnold, joining us renowned psychiatrist out of the
- 19:10Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her an Angela Arnold MD
- 19:13Speaker 1: dot com. Her specialty is dealing with women, doctor Angie.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, Doctor Angie. All of
- 19:22Speaker 1: that seems ominous, very ominous in light of the fact
- 19:26Speaker 1: that no one can find Mamta, that the passports were there,
- 19:31Speaker 1: the suitcases were packed.
- 19:33Speaker 2: What would you say, doctor Angela Arnold?
- 19:36Speaker 1: Is the single most dangerous time for a woman that
- 19:39Speaker 1: has been abused.
- 19:41Speaker 15: Unfortunately, Nancy, the single most dangerous time for a woman
- 19:46Speaker 15: is the top from the time they get pregnant until
- 19:50Speaker 15: one year postpartum. That is, homicide and suicide account for
- 19:56Speaker 15: more deaths of a woman that is pregnant to one
- 20:01Speaker 15: year postpartum than any medical complication that the woman could
- 20:05Speaker 15: have during that time. And I want women to know
- 20:09Speaker 15: that homicide and suicide are the number one way that
- 20:13Speaker 15: a woman in that time does.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Joining me is Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta's and who
- 20:19Speaker 1: has engineered the GoFundMe.
- 20:22Speaker 2: She organized that. Nadia. Did do you ever speak with
- 20:27Speaker 2: the husband? Naresh?
- 20:28Speaker 5: Yes, I did.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Could you describe what happened?
- 20:32Speaker 3: Well, it was at the baby's birthday party, and there
- 20:37Speaker 3: were a lot of people there. Nobody wanted me to
- 20:39Speaker 3: be alone with him. He said that he needed to
- 20:42Speaker 3: speak to me privately, and he asked to speak to
- 20:44Speaker 3: me alone, and I said later, but I didn't stick around.
- 20:50Speaker 3: I left early and he said he would call me.
- 20:53Speaker 1: So, Nadia Navarro, when you were at the baby's birthday party?
- 20:58Speaker 2: It was the first birthday parties? Correct?
- 21:01Speaker 1: Yes, which is doctor Angie curious because it dovetails with
- 21:06Speaker 1: what you just told us. Mom's baby girl had just
- 21:09Speaker 1: turned one. Why is it that no one wanted you
- 21:14Speaker 1: to be alone with not ash Bought.
- 21:17Speaker 3: Because everyone was suspicious of him.
- 21:19Speaker 1: What about an incident where you took Mamta to the
- 21:23Speaker 1: you were trying to take her to the spy store.
- 21:28Speaker 3: He called me multiple times that day and he demanded
- 21:32Speaker 3: that I turned back and I basically said no, and
- 21:37Speaker 3: he was shocked and angry, and he screamed at me.
- 21:39Speaker 2: What exactly did he say it was in?
- 21:41Speaker 3: He started screaming and Nepoli.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Did you know what he was saying? No?
- 21:45Speaker 3: I had no idea.
- 21:47Speaker 1: What was Mamta's reaction with him screaming into the phone.
- 21:51Speaker 3: She got really quiet and she apologized.
- 21:53Speaker 2: I find that very curious.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Okay, the part that the part of what he said
- 22:00Speaker 1: that was not a NPOLLI What was he saying in
- 22:03Speaker 1: English that you could understand?
- 22:04Speaker 3: He was like what, I guess no one had really
- 22:09Speaker 3: or maybe a woman hadn't said no to him before.
- 22:11Speaker 2: What was he saying?
- 22:12Speaker 3: Well, he was demanding that I turn around, and I'm
- 22:18Speaker 3: my own person in my own car. I'm a grown woman,
- 22:21Speaker 3: and I said no, We're just going to the spice store.
- 22:24Speaker 3: I don't want to turn around.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Doctor Angel Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrist, you just told
- 22:32Speaker 1: me that the most dangerous time for a woman in
- 22:35Speaker 1: an abusive home is I think you said, leading up
- 22:38Speaker 1: to pregnancy and up to one year after giving birth.
- 22:42Speaker 1: I find that extraordinarily curious and possibly probative.
- 22:50Speaker 2: That the baby was just turning one when mom ticket disappears.
- 22:56Speaker 15: It's horrible, you know, Nancy. What I'm wondering is what
- 22:59Speaker 15: was happening in that home leading up to this. I
- 23:01Speaker 15: am so curious about that. There are so many things
- 23:06Speaker 15: that seem to be left unsaid right now. How did
- 23:09Speaker 15: he treat her during the pregnancy, how did he treat
- 23:12Speaker 15: her soon after the birth, and what in the world
- 23:15Speaker 15: let up to this, right before the baby turned one
- 23:18Speaker 15: year old.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Those are the questions that I'm wondering about right now.
- 23:22Speaker 5: That's a question we've all been asking. Why did it
- 23:25Speaker 5: take so long?
- 23:26Speaker 1: She's now been away from her baby girl for quite
- 23:30Speaker 1: some time.
- 23:32Speaker 2: So this is a very concerning case.
- 23:34Speaker 11: Every day that goes by there's a baby that doesn't
- 23:37Speaker 11: know where a mother is. The chances of her coming
- 23:39Speaker 11: home alive go down with every hour that passes.
- 23:42Speaker 6: And I have.
- 23:43Speaker 10: Really bad feelings for this mother because I don't believe
- 23:46Speaker 10: she's alive at this moment.
- 23:51Speaker 1: We are learning evidence fast and furious. For one thing,
- 23:55Speaker 1: we're learning about those I say probatives, which.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Means prove something. Other people may just call it curious.
- 24:03Speaker 1: Google searches performed by the husband na Esh Bot for instance,
- 24:08Speaker 1: how long to Mary after spouse dies? Also what happened
- 24:15Speaker 1: Debt d e b brother T What happened Debt after
- 24:19Speaker 1: spouse dies.
- 24:22Speaker 2: We are also learning.
- 24:24Speaker 1: That mom's mother has just been granted an emergency visa
- 24:29Speaker 1: and families trying to get her from Nepal. Here on
- 24:33Speaker 1: the scene. I'm also curious right now about what was
- 24:37Speaker 1: seen inside the home to not as sent to bones
- 24:41Speaker 1: who joining us from Fox five. I'm gonna circle back
- 24:43Speaker 1: to you, Brian Fitzgibbons regarding digital data, phone.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Data, but not what more do we know about.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Searches of the computers, searches of phones, and searches the home.
- 25:01Speaker 2: I understand what police arrived at the home.
- 25:02Speaker 1: It's the very chaotic same bags were packed, passports were out.
- 25:06Speaker 5: What do you know, yes, exactly, Nancy.
- 25:09Speaker 10: There was a lot going on in the house and
- 25:11Speaker 10: it looked like someone who was ready to leave, to
- 25:15Speaker 10: leave his home and to possibly leave the country, because
- 25:17Speaker 10: we understand that there were passports.
- 25:19Speaker 5: For him and his one year old daughter, Nima.
- 25:21Speaker 10: But we're also learning recently that in court documents that
- 25:27Speaker 10: there were a number of searches in his phone as well.
- 25:32Speaker 5: That's that digital evidence.
- 25:34Speaker 10: And you know, one of the biggest concerns is that
- 25:37Speaker 10: Google search about what happens to what appears to be debt,
- 25:41Speaker 10: financial debt if your spouse dies.
- 25:44Speaker 5: So all of.
- 25:45Speaker 10: These things are now coming out, and I only believe
- 25:48Speaker 10: we're going to continue to hear more from prosecutors.
- 25:51Speaker 5: And again that presence that was outside the house, we
- 25:55Speaker 5: know there has to be more.
- 25:56Speaker 10: It can't just be a couple of rugs that we
- 25:59Speaker 10: saw in the bathtub that was collected. I'm interested to
- 26:02Speaker 10: see what exactly police and the prosecutors.
- 26:05Speaker 5: Will continue to share with us when it comes to evidence.
- 26:08Speaker 10: But we also heard going back to the digital really quickly,
- 26:12Speaker 10: that there was a trip to a nearby store or
- 26:15Speaker 10: grocery store for cleaning supplies and knives and those kinds
- 26:18Speaker 10: of things. So this is just part of the evidence
- 26:20Speaker 10: that we're going to continue to learn more about as
- 26:24Speaker 10: this case continues to go on. But the most recent
- 26:27Speaker 10: things that we're hearing about are those Google searches, what
- 26:30Speaker 10: happens to financial debt if your spouts dies.
- 26:33Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the bathtub being taken out that
- 26:36Speaker 1: most recently occurred in famous cases and the rex Hueman
- 26:41Speaker 1: Long Island serial killer cases. Bathtub, the entire bathroom was
- 26:45Speaker 1: totally dismantled. Sometimes difficult to get evidence out of a
- 26:53Speaker 1: bathtub drain or a sink drain, but it can be
- 26:57Speaker 1: done if it's done in time. We're going to learn
- 27:02Speaker 1: a lot about that blood evidence, and we know that
- 27:05Speaker 1: the blue Star kit was used, illuminol search was done.
- 27:09Speaker 1: We understand that a bed in the master bedroom was
- 27:13Speaker 1: moved and when the bed was moved, it revealed blood
- 27:18Speaker 1: evidence that leads me to say, what you're redecorating, you
- 27:23Speaker 1: spring cleaning? You just feel like moving your bed suddenly.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed how husbands certainly suddenly turned neat
- 27:32Speaker 1: nicks when their wives go missing, and they're mopping and
- 27:35Speaker 1: they're using detergent, they're doing the laundry, they're moving the
- 27:39Speaker 1: bed around and coincidentally blood under the bed.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Curious.
- 27:45Speaker 1: I also want to circle back to Nadia Navarro. We've
- 27:48Speaker 1: got a lot to cover. We're going in all different
- 27:50Speaker 1: directions to Nadia Navarro, friend of mam To's. You stated
- 27:55Speaker 1: that at a birthday party for baby Nima, who turned
- 27:59Speaker 1: one year old, baby girl.
- 28:02Speaker 2: That no one wanted you to speak to the husband alone.
- 28:06Speaker 2: No mom wanted you to be alone with.
- 28:08Speaker 1: The husband, not Ashpot because they were suspicious. Let me
- 28:14Speaker 1: understand the time frame here. Baby Nima turned one before
- 28:18Speaker 1: or after mom to disappears after Aha, No wonder the
- 28:24Speaker 1: suspicion next who through the birthday party?
- 28:29Speaker 3: It was my idea. I wanted to see the baby,
- 28:32Speaker 3: and I've been avoiding contacting Nurash And he did ask me,
- 28:38Speaker 3: why haven't you called me? Why haven't you checked in
- 28:40Speaker 3: on me when we got to the birthday party.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I'm very curious.
- 28:46Speaker 1: So he did not consider having a one year birthday
- 28:49Speaker 1: party for the baby.
- 28:51Speaker 3: No, people begged him on my behalf. They were like,
- 28:53Speaker 3: she really, she really wants to have one, and it's
- 28:55Speaker 3: also good for the baby because mama would have wanted
- 28:59Speaker 3: a party for her. And he finally relented because we said,
- 29:03Speaker 3: it's not about it's not about you, It's about the
- 29:05Speaker 3: baby and the people that want to celebrate with the baby.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Dadian Navarro, what was the husband notish bought behavior? His
- 29:13Speaker 1: demeanor at the birthday party?
- 29:15Speaker 3: Oh my, it was the strangest I have ever seen him.
- 29:19Speaker 3: He was completely different, and his eyes had like a
- 29:24Speaker 3: frantic energy about them, just the way they would flip
- 29:28Speaker 3: back and forth, and he would constantly like look up
- 29:31Speaker 3: at me to see if I was looking at him,
- 29:33Speaker 3: which I was, I was staring, I was, I was
- 29:37Speaker 3: watching how different he was. He kept randomly disappearing from
- 29:42Speaker 3: the party as well. When we were on the on
- 29:44Speaker 3: the deck, he would take the baby and go downstairs
- 29:47Speaker 3: anytime the baby started to cry, which was often, and
- 29:51Speaker 3: then he'd come back up and we didn't know why
- 29:52Speaker 3: he went down and nobody followed him down. But when
- 29:56Speaker 3: he did go down, every time the baby would stop crying.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Guys, I want to talk about very quickly, hard evidence,
- 30:02Speaker 1: hard evidence.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Listen.
- 30:04Speaker 14: Nareshbot makes inconsistent statements to police when they arrive at
- 30:07Speaker 14: the home to conduct a welfare check on his wife,
- 30:09Speaker 14: Momta on August first, Narshe tells police his wife isn't
- 30:12Speaker 14: home because she's visiting family in Texas or New York,
- 30:16Speaker 14: and refuses to file a missing person report. On August sixth,
- 30:19Speaker 14: the Investigators saying Nareshbod contacts the police to report his
- 30:22Speaker 14: wife missing, stating she's been visiting family and was last
- 30:25Speaker 14: seen in the early hours of July thirty first. He
- 30:27Speaker 14: later changes his story, saying he last saw her in
- 30:30Speaker 14: the early hours of August first. When asked about mom
- 30:33Speaker 14: toa Bod's cell phone, Naresh claims, MoMA destroyed her phone
- 30:36Speaker 14: before she went missing.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Destroyed her cell phone. That's a new one on me.
- 30:42Speaker 1: So his statement to police Brian Fisgibbons is that Mamta
- 30:47Speaker 1: destroyed her cell phone before she went away.
- 30:51Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.
- 30:52Speaker 11: Nancy and the police are going to be able to
- 30:55Speaker 11: get a tremendous amount of data even off of Mamta's
- 30:58Speaker 11: phone if Naresh destroyed it. At this point, given the
- 31:02Speaker 11: physical evidence, they're going to be able to get Mourns
- 31:05Speaker 11: to expand that digital surgeon.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Well Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, we have learned more
- 31:21Speaker 1: about the hard evidence, and I'm referring to digital evidence.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Regardless of what husband and father Naresh Bat may say
- 31:31Speaker 1: about his wife Manta destroying her cell phone before she goes.
- 31:35Speaker 14: Missing it pinged listen, police knowe that Mamta's phone is
- 31:40Speaker 14: not destroyed, as the phone continues to receive data until
- 31:43Speaker 14: July twenty ninth, after which all calls went to voicemail.
- 31:47Speaker 14: By August first, the investigators say the phone has completely died.
- 31:51Speaker 14: The last known location of her phone was in Louden County, Virginia.
- 31:54Speaker 14: Naresh claims he was at a cafe in Louden County
- 31:57Speaker 14: and provides proof which coincides with the area where MoMA's
- 32:01Speaker 14: phone pinged the cell tower after she vanished.
- 32:05Speaker 16: Nareshbot is seen on surveillance footage inside the Chantilly, Virginia
- 32:09Speaker 16: walmart as he buys a three pack of knives. On
- 32:13Speaker 16: July thirty, Investigators look for the knives. As they serve
- 32:16Speaker 16: the search warrant on the bought residents, they find one
- 32:19Speaker 16: of the knives. Two knives are still missing. One day
- 32:23Speaker 16: after buying the knives, Nareshbot goes to the Walmart in
- 32:27Speaker 16: Louden and buys cleaning supplies.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Straight out to sant To Bonsou joining us from Fox five,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I assume that the surveillance video within that store at
- 32:38Speaker 1: the Walmart and the one in Chantilli where he's buying
- 32:43Speaker 1: cleaning supplies and knives respectively, has been curated, has been
- 32:48Speaker 1: obtained by police.
- 32:50Speaker 10: Yes, that's what we're gathering that they use this surveillance
- 32:53Speaker 10: footage to recognize that these are the things he purchased
- 32:57Speaker 10: on or around the thirtieth, too far away from the
- 33:01Speaker 10: day that they say he possibly murdered his wife. So
- 33:05Speaker 10: we're learning that, you know, as reporters, you were asking
- 33:08Speaker 10: a lot of questions, what is going on? Why aren't
- 33:11Speaker 10: you guys searching? But it seems like you know, they
- 33:14Speaker 10: were onto something. They were just waiting to get their
- 33:16Speaker 10: hands on some of that surveillance video that we just discussed.
- 33:20Speaker 1: I hope that they have preserved the trash outside of
- 33:25Speaker 1: his home. Also, we're learning about the surveillance footage inside
- 33:30Speaker 1: the Chantille Walmart, and then he goes to another Walmart
- 33:34Speaker 1: in Louden to make further purchases. Interesting why did he
- 33:38Speaker 1: go to one not as close to his home, but
- 33:42Speaker 1: also during all this time at backtrack, he just buys
- 33:48Speaker 1: a set of three knives, and all of a sudden,
- 33:50Speaker 1: literally within hours, two of the knives are missing. And
- 33:56Speaker 1: that said, he is acting like everything's normal. Listen, this
- 34:02Speaker 1: is from our friends at WUSA nine.
- 34:05Speaker 4: We don't have any type of that.
- 34:06Speaker 8: You know.
- 34:07Speaker 4: It was like a normal day, like other regular days,
- 34:10Speaker 4: just you know, like you know, we were taking care
- 34:13Speaker 4: of our babies.
- 34:14Speaker 2: It was like a very normal, a normal day.
- 34:17Speaker 1: According to him, his wife is missing and she destroyed
- 34:19Speaker 1: her cell phone before she took off.
- 34:21Speaker 2: That's not normal. Take us too more. And what she
- 34:25Speaker 2: has demeanor? This is from our friends at WUSA nine.
- 34:29Speaker 4: Oh, you know, like she wasn't a fear at her
- 34:32Speaker 4: work and then she is very like you no, pocused
- 34:34Speaker 4: on her work. And then once we know like no
- 34:37Speaker 4: she's not at work, then you know, like that makes
- 34:39Speaker 4: very decitious to me.
- 34:40Speaker 1: And so serious you had not reported her missing. Okay,
- 34:45Speaker 1: there's more.
- 34:46Speaker 14: Listen in the master bathroom, Investigators carefully remove the bathtub
- 34:50Speaker 14: and visible to the naked eye, detectives confirm what they
- 34:53Speaker 14: believe to be blood not just around the tub area,
- 34:56Speaker 14: but blood appears to be stuck in the calking. Investigators
- 34:59Speaker 14: believe in the rush by kills his wife and drags
- 35:01Speaker 14: her body, creating a blood trail, and conceals the body
- 35:03Speaker 14: in a place that is yet to be located. Even
- 35:06Speaker 14: though they haven't found a body, Investigators believe the amount
- 35:09Speaker 14: of blood detected in the master bedroom and bathroom is
- 35:12Speaker 14: inconsistent with life. Naresh Bot is charged with murdering his
- 35:15Speaker 14: wife and concealing her body.
- 35:16Speaker 1: With us as Adrian Pakarell, who knows the husband not Ishbach,
- 35:23Speaker 1: Adrian fourteen years in the US Army, a former congressional candidate. Adrian,
- 35:28Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What went through your
- 35:31Speaker 1: mind when you learn not is ish Bat has been
- 35:34Speaker 1: suspected in murder and has actually been charged as it
- 35:39Speaker 1: relates to getting rid of a body or destroying evans, It.
- 35:44Speaker 6: Was stocking and shaking at the same time.
- 35:47Speaker 8: Because we are a small team, we decided to make
- 35:51Speaker 8: sure his behavior and nothing happens to Nima.
- 35:55Speaker 6: We put the uniform to serve our protect our nation,
- 36:01Speaker 6: protect the people, and the thing I was very, very
- 36:09Speaker 6: very disturbing to me. It was very disturbed, and I
- 36:14Speaker 6: was upset.
- 36:14Speaker 7: I was an angler and every single way frustrated and
- 36:19Speaker 7: many many things.
- 36:20Speaker 6: I can't really describe that.
- 36:22Speaker 1: In the last hours, there has been a preliminary hearing
- 36:26Speaker 1: of sorts. It was very brief and lasted a little
- 36:30Speaker 1: under an hour. Joining me right now, Nana saying to
- 36:34Speaker 1: bone suit with Fox five, what have we learned after
- 36:39Speaker 1: the hearing?
- 36:40Speaker 5: Yes, Nancy.
- 36:40Speaker 10: So this morning it was a bond hearing for Naresh
- 36:44Speaker 10: bod It's important to note that.
- 36:46Speaker 5: He is actually in costody for concealment.
- 36:50Speaker 10: Of a body, but police still do not have Mamta's body,
- 36:54Speaker 10: so his charge is for concealing a dead body. For
- 36:58Speaker 10: his bond hearing, obviously, it's when the judge will decide
- 37:01Speaker 10: will we let him out on bond or we're going
- 37:04Speaker 10: to keep him in. The decision was we are going
- 37:06Speaker 10: to keep him inside with no bond. Now, I do
- 37:10Speaker 10: have a colleague who was in that courtroom and she
- 37:13Speaker 10: did say, for a second, people got nervous because the
- 37:16Speaker 10: defense said, well, the prosecution or the state doesn't have
- 37:20Speaker 10: a body, So why is he in jail or why
- 37:23Speaker 10: is he in custody for concealment of a dead body?
- 37:27Speaker 10: But obviously the judge still said not strong enough, so
- 37:30Speaker 10: we're going to keep him in custody. So Narashvet still
- 37:34Speaker 10: inside a detention center with no bond. And again that
- 37:38Speaker 10: charge is for concealment of a dead body. Still searching
- 37:42Speaker 10: for where Manta is her remains or whatever the case
- 37:46Speaker 10: may be.
- 37:47Speaker 1: To Nadia Navarro, a very dear friend of missing mom Mamta, Nadia,
- 37:53Speaker 1: I want to hear your reaction when you learned not
- 37:57Speaker 1: each bat had been arrested, not for murder, but for
- 38:02Speaker 1: transport and concealing or altering a dead body.
- 38:06Speaker 3: I screamed, I have him to be in public. So
- 38:12Speaker 3: I had to go into the police station and I
- 38:16Speaker 3: went to the bathroom and I sat down and screamed.
- 38:20Speaker 2: What are your thoughts at this juncture?
- 38:24Speaker 3: I no longer think she's with us, and I'm horrified
- 38:29Speaker 3: and in pain, and.
- 38:32Speaker 2: I'm so angry to you.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining US Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security.
- 38:42Speaker 2: What will it take for a murder charge?
- 38:45Speaker 11: Nancy? There's amount of evidence that investigators have already collected.
- 38:51Speaker 11: Now at this juncture, you got to be thinking that
- 38:53Speaker 11: somebody could come forward, somebody close to Nuresh could come
- 38:57Speaker 11: forward with information. There's going to be more digital evidence
- 39:01Speaker 11: being uncovered here as warrants are produced in this case.
- 39:06Speaker 1: There have been many other cases where husband's typically sometimes wives,
- 39:13Speaker 1: begged for the return of their spouse. Does the name
- 39:16Speaker 1: Chris Watts ring a bell or maybe Shannan listen.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Bella Celeste, if you're out there, just.
- 39:24Speaker 10: Just come back, like if somebody has her, please bring
- 39:27Speaker 10: her back.
- 39:28Speaker 3: I need to see everybody. I need to see everybody again.
- 39:31Speaker 5: This house is not complete without anybody here.
- 39:35Speaker 10: Back.
- 39:36Speaker 1: That's where my friends said k mgh Denver seven. Chris
- 39:40Speaker 1: Watts later convicted in the murder of not only his wife,
- 39:45Speaker 1: but his two little girls.
- 39:47Speaker 2: In this case, baby Nima is safe. Baby Nima is safe.
- 39:54Speaker 2: Praise the Lord for that.
- 39:58Speaker 1: We have been told by a reliable source that baby
- 40:03Speaker 1: Niema is with friends of mom Mamta. But but as
- 40:11Speaker 1: we go to air tonight, where is Mamta?
- 40:17Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye
- 40:23Speaker 2: friend