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Three Weeks to a New Year | a conversation with Bethanee Riddle and Rosemary Jones · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hi friends, welcome back to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: It means so much to have you choose to take our conversation along with you today.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Amy Wicks, your host, and here at Simply Wholehearted, we provide perspective to define your purpose and create a plan to live a wholehearted, intentional life.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like you, we desire to love the Lord with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: So you're welcome to join us as we share inspiring stories and simple ideas from friends as they pursue life on purpose, armed with plans for making the ordinary life extraordinary.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Happy New Year! I hope these first few days of 2019 have been healthy and bright for you.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know if you're anything like me, you look at the next year and you're full of anticipation for what it's going to hold.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: So if you tuned in to our last podcast of 2018, you heard Katie Roselli and I talk about the year ahead, how we make plans, how we dream, the big and small decisions that we make, giving our best yes and just say no January.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm continuing the conversation today in a new and different way for this 2019 first podcast.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: And for episode 80 here, we're gonna do things a little bit different.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna share a couple of stories and things about hopes, wishes, and dreams and how I take three weeks to begin my new year.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: I shared a little bit earlier this week on our Facebook page.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: I did a Facebook live sharing about how we begin the year, how my family begins the year, and takes three weeks to really set our intentions and get perspective of what the new year holds for us.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: In 2018, I had some friends and I who we shared our different perspectives on fasting and prayer and getting your word for the year.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm starting the tradition again this year, and we're talking about getting perspective from the word, from worship, and writing things down, including our word for the year, if you hear it in the first three weeks to your new year.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: I also wanted to share a fun tradition that I have been doing for several years because it helps cut through some of the overwhelm that you might feel as you look to the new year, or maybe even the blank slate that you find yourself staring at.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is a fun tradition that you might want to adopt and adapt for yourself.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: So several years ago, a friend invited just a few of us to an intimate birthday dinner at one of our favorite places, the Cheesecake Factory.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: We had a lovely evening of fellowship and she started the conversation after we got our meal and settled in and did the small stock, and she turned, even though it was her birthday, she turned the conversation towards the other three of us sitting at the table.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: She asked us what our hopes, our wishes, and dreams were for that coming year.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: I had never heard of it put that way.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I also in the back of mind was thinking, hey, wait a minute, this is your birthday.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you asking us?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: But now I've learned several years later how this is just the kind of friend she is, and she genuinely wanted to hear what our hopes, wishes, and dreams were for that year.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: And since she had a birthday in January, it was kind of a convenient time to ask.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: Took her, I think, probably pen and paper out at the time.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe she took some notes on her phone, and she looked at us in the eye and really listened to what we had to say.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: And what was really neat, even though I was sitting at a table with two other women that I hadn't met before, they did the same and we did the same for each other.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: It was an opportunity to really hear that person, to listen on purpose, to be heard and to be seen, and to also see and to hear someone else.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was an opportunity to celebrate what has been and maybe what we've learned from the year before, but it was also a time to encourage one another into what could be and help maybe give language to the vision that we thought we maybe had for our lives at that time.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was a sweet moment.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: And actually, it was more than a moment.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: It was a good couple hour conversation.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was amazed how already my heart connected immediately to these two other women sitting at the table.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Little did I know that was the beginning of a long, many-year deep friendship with not only those three women, but a couple others that are now part of a special prayer group that I get to enjoy on a regular basis.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: But at that point in time, we were just three strangers sharing some of what was on our heart, not really sure of what would happen.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I love to look back and I think about those really those prayers and heartfelt desires that were whispered to one another in that quiet space and to see how a lot of that has come to fruition for each of us, and also how the Lord has shaped it.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe it looks a little differently along the way.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I was inspired by my dear friend's tradition, and I kept thinking about it throughout the year.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: What did it look like to ask someone their hopes, wishes, and dreams?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: What did those words really mean?
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: And how did that help us set the intention?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: And part of it was a revelation that you know what, I think I was a little nervous or scared to or fearful of hoping and wishing and dreaming.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like what did that really mean?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: And did the Lord invite us to dream?
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Did he invite us to wish?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I know he, I know hope was a biblical word, but what did that really look like to hope?
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: So as I've continued to pray about it and practice it and read more in the Word of God about that idea of hopes, wishes, and dreams, I see it bring about some amazing fruit, not only in my life, but to those I share it.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the friend who introduced me to the whole concept, I see the fruit in her life and our prayer circle as well.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's really neat.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: We get together often, and that's a big part of our conversation at least once a year.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: The other people I was really excited to share it with was some of my extended family.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't know about you guys, but for me, extended family really means extended.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: They live in a different state.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: We only get to see each other a few times a year, and we definitely rely on technology to keep in touch.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Thank goodness for Voxer.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: And if you haven't figured out what Voxer is, download the app.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's really intuitive, easy to figure out, and it's a great way to connect with those you love.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not a paid advertisement.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just really love it.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, when we get together, we want to make the most of every minute we have, whether it's a vacation someplace else or in each other's home or a long weekend visit to see each other's performances or special events and what's going on.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Once a year, we try to get together, and specifically, we often get together around the new year.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of accidentally happened where, well, we had little kids at the time, and that we had a lot going on, and us sisters wanted a chance to get away, and we wanted to take our mom with us to have some deeper, meaningful conversation.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: So the first time we got to do this, there was this quaint tea house in Monument, Colorado.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: We got to go to my sisters, and my mom introduced me.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: They had been previewed to it before, and I was charmed the second I stepped in, and I was like, I want to own something like this someday or do something like this.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: But for that moment, we sat in a cozy little corner upstairs drinking our tea.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was eating my gluten-free scone, and we were eating our goodies and we were sharing, and I sat down with a journal and a pen and paper, and I asked them, what are your hopes, wishes, and dreams for this year ahead?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: It took some explaining and it took some of exampling of my own, and it was still a fairly new practice for me, but I knew it was something I wanted to do so that way I could really listen on purpose and I could really hear and see those that I love.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to champion what dreams they had.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to take a moment and put aside what it is that I wanted to share and what I've been thinking about and think about what they're thinking about and praying to that.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: For the last several years, I've had some of the same items on those lists.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've had some of the same dreams and hopes and wishes, but I've also scratched off some along the way, and not just because I actually saw them to fruition or completed them, but some of them I've realized that my path or dream has changed, or really the Lord has helped put some more shape to those dreams or hopes or wishes.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's been so great to see the years pass because we write it down and we make sure we bring it to our gathering.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: And sadly, that quaint little tea house is no longer.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we've found different places, sometimes in an empty coffee house, sometimes in a busy cough house, and sometimes in the basement of a good friend's home that provided solitude and privacy for tears that sometimes come.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: We get to reflect together.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: We get to read our list of what we were hoping or wishing or dreaming from the last year.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we get, you know, point to one another and say, I saw that happen in your life.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Or that person share, oh, well, actually I realized I wanted this and that this, or this happened instead of that.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that was really exactly what I needed or wanted.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's going, well, I read that off and I don't have any more clarity about it.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's on my list again this year.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: And again, it's an opportunity to celebrate what has been and where we're at, to listen on purpose, to hear and to see others.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: You might listen to this and go, oh, well, that would be nice.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's good for you that you have people that you can sit down and share your hopes, wishes, and dreams, but I don't have those people yet.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, friend, I've been there.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: I understand and I remember that ache all too well.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm encouraging you to adapt this and adopt this for you, to figure out what it looks like for you to sit down and think about what your hopes, your wishes, and your dreams are.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: I really believe we have an invitation from the Lord, a biblical invitation to do this with him, to ask him what it is that you really want.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: What that what does he want for you?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: What desires has he placed in your life that he wants to see come to fruition?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just what you want, it's what he wants too for you.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: And he wants to champion them on.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: And you could take a little, well, a little prompting from my friend who began this all those years ago.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: It was her birthday party.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: She had every right to expect us to ask her what her hopes, wishes, and dreams are.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: And we have taken her lead.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: We do do that now when we celebrate her birthday.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: But she took the lead and she was willing to listen and to see and to hear.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: And she asked us what our hopes, wishes, and dreams are.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: And it opened up the door for her to find a safe place to land and share what was burning in her heart.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe you can take the lead.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you can take an opportunity to write down what your hopes, wishes, and dreams are, and then find the circle of friend, or call a sister, or phone a friend, or or maybe when you start up with a new Bible study or small group this year, you can have those tucked away in your Bible and have it ready when an opportunity comes up to share.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if you're really stuck about dreaming for the year ahead, I like to think, well, simply, I talked about it earlier this week on my Facebook Live, but I think good things come in threes.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I like to think in the vein of spirit, mind, and body.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Last year I created a printable for this to give you some ideas of what that might look like as you dream about how you want to grow your spirit, how you want to grow your mind, and how you want to grow in your body.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you feel like you have too much.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're living in the overwhelm of beginning again for 2018.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I've also created a reflection template.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: It helps me sort out what has worked best last season and what worked well, but then I also think through what it is that I need to do differently because it didn't work well last year.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's just an honest assessment so you can dream some more for the year ahead.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: None of these are a formula, it's just an invitation to process.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Think the Lord often gives us a vision for things long before they're meant to be.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it looks different, sometimes it's co-carried.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm learning more often than not that sometimes I write something down and think of a hope, wish, and dream, and I expect to see it come to its fullness in that specific calendar year.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: But more often than not, really the Lord is just inviting me to a process and it's not a timeline.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's not about when I accomplish it.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's about setting the intention and getting me on that path to begin again, whether it's a new year or a new season.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: I get the opportunity to ask him what it is that he has for me and what he wants me to put my hands to.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Now, your hopes, wishes, and dreams may be super simple or they might be really complex.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: But either way, I hope you might begin a new practice similar to this, adapted and customized perfectly for your season of life.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, I would love to know what your hopes and wishes and dreams are for this year of 2019.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: We'd love to have you message us with your hopes, wishes, and dreams so we can be praying for you and encouraging you along the way.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now, to go along with our three weeks to a new year, we've also been talking on Facebook about getting perspective from the Word of God.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: As I shared before, I love taking the first three weeks of a new year and taking time to fast, getting some extra time to focus in on what the Lord has for me in this new year.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that you maybe are doing the same thing.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're giving yourself some more time to figure out what your hopes, wishes, and dreams are for this new year and what it is that you want to accomplish or you want to get done.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Earlier this week, we talked about getting perspective from the Word of God.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the first thing that I go to in this new year to see what he has to say.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to unpack more about incorporating worship into the three weeks to new year and writing down not only goals and dreams, the hopes, wishes, and dreams, right?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: But also your word for the year.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm really excited to share more about that.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Today I've invited a couple of people to give their quick stories.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's really just a short conversation.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little bit different than our typical format, but their stories about why they felt compelled to go get perspective from the Word of God.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought it would be neat to hear some other stories besides mine, and there'll be familiar voices.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Bethany Riddle has been part of the Simply Wholehearted Collective for a long time and a longtime dear friend.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: She is currently making progress through and to seminary.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so she really has grown a passion for the Word of God, and she's excited to share today.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: I know we've been talking about this a long time, but I appreciate you and your busy Bible paper writing world squeezing this whole conversation in.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I haven't started school yet.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually just writing a study to go through with friends.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm doing a Bible study starting in a few weeks soon as I can get it written to walk through.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Tell us I know.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's gonna be it's gonna be early morning.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, like at 6 a.m.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: in just an hour, but it'll be an inductive study.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be a deep dive.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, tell us what inductive means because some of our friends may not, that may be a foreign word to them.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, inductive, it means it's just a way of studying.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's um looking at it through observation and interpretation and then application.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: So you're looking at scripture to see what it actually says, and not just going to look for how can I pull this scripture into my context, but actually going to look at scripture in its context and really deeply studying it and walking and combing through it.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: So when did you have a revelation of looking at the Word of God differently?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it probably has to be the first time it really dawned on me that I might be um, I don't want to say wrong, because I've had a relationship with the Lord for my whole life.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we just go into new levels of knowing him more.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think the time it really was a light bulb moment was actually for some reason it takes really hard things for me to hear from the Lord.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: Either I'm stubborn, probably I'm stubborn.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably because I'm stubborn.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: But it takes a lot of really hard situations.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: So whenever I was really sick, I know you know this, Amy, from oh gosh, what was that?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's like seven years ago now.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was really sick, and I remember, you know, the way I'd always been taught, or maybe just the way I always understood, was that there were certain prayers that I needed to pray, or I had to have big enough faith, or I had to have a certain type of, I don't know, formula in order to make this healing thing happen.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: And when I checked all those boxes and still the healing didn't come, um, and I found myself with, you know, diagnosed with chronic illness, um, food sensitivities, all kinds of stuff.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a story from the time, but yeah, all of the things I remember thinking, okay, there were two things that came to me.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, God, either A, I'm wrong about you and about your word and about um really what this is all about, or you're just not good, or at least you're not good to me.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember like I had to look at those two things and I really had the the option before me was which one am I gonna go with?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously we know who was wrong in those two equations.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: It was me.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: So it really I sometimes it sends people the opposite direction to run from God, and really it took me to say, okay, well, obviously I'm wrong about what all this is all about or what even what God is all about.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so it took, I took a deep dive.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: I went straight into like studying scripture.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: I sent emails to pastors.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, help me, how can I actually look at this and see this for what it really says and not just piecemealed for myself and what I can what it can do for me, but I want to learn what the actual bigger story really is.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: And that was really in a real brief nutshell, yeah, what piqued my interest, curiosity.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: It really was more of a, okay, God, who are you really?
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because obviously I have a wrong mindset.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just I dove in head first to try to find out who God was.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I really look at scripture a lot of times in that, like, okay, it's it's not a questioning God in a in a who do you think you are sort of way, right?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a questioning God in a, I want to know you more.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me more of who you are.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I want to understand because this doesn't make sense to me, and this feels maybe not great, but I know, like I've planted my stake here that you're good.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: So help me see this through your perspective.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: And that was really when I started digging into scripture, less to find out how to fix my circumstance and more to know him.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it became less about my circumstance and more about him.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's really good.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: So, where did you where did you begin?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because that was kind of a big leap and that was a different perspective.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So, what like what did you practically do?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, practically in the very beginning, I sort of felt lost.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like I said, I emailed a pastor that we had at a church I was going to at the time who just was really I knew that he was really um knowledgeable in scripture, and he started just sending me.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: I asked him about a particular scripture and he started sending me tools.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so I started looking at the tools he was sending me, or he would cut and paste and things.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, well, I could get these things for myself.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I started getting commentaries, I started opening scripture and reading it um for what it for the full context and not just for what a particular little scripture says.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: I also that's when I really started to dive into like the the inductive studies that I explained earlier, just dumped into those.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, a couple of really great Bible teachers, Jen Wilken.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: I did my first Jen Wilken Bible study.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um I read her book, Women of the Word, which I can't I cannot recommend that more highly.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: It was that was probably when I really was like, I want to know how to do this and what to do.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: I read somebody recommended that book to me just in passing, and I read it and it really was a game changer.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's a really great way to put that because it really made me, it gave me practical ways to understand how to look at scripture, how to study scripture.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Now it's not an easy one because it's it's a short book.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a short book, but she says, okay, buckle up because you're in this for the long haul.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like a, hey, here's a quick learn the Bible in 30 days.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's a okay, this is gonna be a journey you're starting now and it's gonna last forever.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot use her method and read through the Bible in a year.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can maybe get through a couple books of the Bible if you're if you're really, I don't know, like a go-getter if you're doing a lot of things.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right, if you're really gonna head down focus and do that, yes.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that's usually that's close to the same way that I study.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then obviously going to school is that it takes me through very similarly than kind of her method.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: So she she must know what she's talking about.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: What um, what book of the Bible has surprised you the most as you've studied it for school?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: And what are you gonna be excited?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: What are you excited about reading for 2019?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh, surprised me the most?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: I would have to say the prophets.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um really do I have to pick one?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Do I have to pick one?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um probably because they were the ones, yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I'll tell you one, but let me start with the reason why, because they confuse me.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're very confusing to me.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: The books, um, the prophetic books, because I don't understand them.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: My brain is literal, my brain is not metaphorical, not allegorical.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so I have to work really, really hard to understand.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so I had to write this last semester.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: I just took a few um classes on well, I took Old Testament survey, and so I had to deep dive into some prophetic.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love yeah, I would have to say I love Ecclesiastes because I didn't get it until I really studied it thoroughly.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I just love the concept that it's like everything's meaningless apart from God.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think if we just all looked at that, like all of this means nothing.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Good, bad, ugly, all of it means nothing without God.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: It really doesn't have eternal value without Him.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Then it's just it was just such a great it just I just like it.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: I just love that book.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good one.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so 2019, you're writing a study to do with friends.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: What book are you doing?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: But in addition to that, do you have one that you're really excited to do a deep dive in?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes, Romans.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I um I studied the first book I studied in school is um in in Bible college was Romans.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I wouldn't say it surprised me the most, but it was the one that just grew my faith, grew my heart, and grew my understanding of the gospel the most.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that's actually the one that I'm writing right now to walk through with friends, but that's what I'm most excited about because it's gonna be the a full 16 weeks.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be a chapter a week.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be a full 16 weeks.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's gonna take up almost half the year.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it is it's what I'm most excited about.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's the most um, you know, uh the one I'm on the cusp of.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm now just finished typing out chapter one.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: So not chapter one of the of the book, but chapter one of the study.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just I love it so much.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting re-excited about it.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember crying through every class in um in by in whenever I took it in Bible college.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I cried through every one of his classes, and so now I'm like, I'm doing it again.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it that's just so telling.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the best things are when we take it, it means a lot, and then we take it to others.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's the best thing that we could do.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: And because it just it's there's gonna be another level of insight for you and application, and that's awesome.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, before I introduce our next guest, I thought it'd be perfect timing to remind you about one of my favorite things that I am using for 2019.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's the Brilliant Life Planner.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you heard me talk about it during our special holiday episodes, but if you didn't, or if you did and you still didn't order it, it's not too late.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: The Brilliant Life Planner is really not just an ordinary calendar.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: It is a book of inspiration to get things done and lots of empty space to help you grow either a side hustle or your work-from-home job, or it simply helps you be more intentional with your time.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: I am loving it.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: There's plenty of note space to write down all the different things, and a very organized calendar to help me streamline my productivity and my goals, and to break down the big things to the small things.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's almost kind of like a neat journal, too, because it's an opportunity to reflect on the week and even write down some of the things you're grateful for and the stuff that you're praying for, and the relationships you want to develop and cultivate.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: So if you still need a planner for 2019, it's not too late.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Check it out for yourself at the link in our show notes, and if you order, simply wholehearted gets a portion of the sales to help produce this podcast.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: So thanks so much for your support.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Happy planning.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Now I'm excited to introduce you to one of our favorites on the podcast, Rosemary Jones.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: She shared last fall her amazing testimony of healing and perseverance through an incredible hardship of having a brain tumor.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Her story is incredible.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Be sure to go back and listen to that episode with Rosemary Jones.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: And today I've asked her to pop in as well to share a little bit about why she thinks going to the Word of God to get perspective is one of the most important things we can do for 2019.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: I was thinking about that after um you kind of gave me a heads up as to what the question was gonna be.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking, I was like, wow, I gotta go back 13 years.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um I was also thinking it looked I can think of very three different stages of my life as a mom and how it has shaped itself differently.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um because I do have six kids, and when I had my first though, I remember having kind of my first um struggle when you're I went from working to being at home um with the baby and um just kind of feeling like I had lost a little bit of my identity.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember um praying because all I'd ever wanted to be was a stay-at-home mom, and now here I was a stay-at-home mom, and I felt kind of lost and all of this time, but all of this time that now has another human present in it.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: So a very needy human.
• 27:34
  unknown: Right.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: You have time, but it's like like you said, it's needy time, like time where someone's draining or pulling from you.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember asking the Lord during that season, um, surely there's something more, like surely you have something more for me.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember hearing um very clearly that he was the more.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't say that lightly in that I don't hear God clearly like that very regularly, but I was in the shower and I think the baby was like in their little like bouncy seat, and you know, I'm here by myself and like feeling alone in the same bathroom, and you're like hoping nothing happens, and I'm like, surely there's something like like you intended me for something more, you know.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's not that motherhood should be more enough in itself.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if now looking back, I think what was I thinking to even be desiring more?
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: But um I heard very clearly that Jesus is more, and so I thought, huh.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_02: And then that season I I I just went to what I knew to do, and that's the back of the Bible where and I just looked up more.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um I looked up the word more in every scripture, and I just and I I got a more ex extensive um book that um I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but um that gave every reference where every time the word more was in there, and I read through that's how I spent that like first year of her life is just looking up what God said he was more of, you know, he's more life and he's more love and he's more um and he loves us more than we can immeasurably imagine.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it just it was a simple way to bring me back to scripture and to um when I didn't really have the emotional energy to um maybe start a new Bible study or to um go through a structural method, this gave me like you know, a short little snippet I could read in order to get reconnected again.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: And that, you know, was when I had one child.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I did have some more time.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: So when when it was nap time, I would have more, and I just really fell in love with the word again during that time.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: I spent a lot of my free time, quote unquote free time reading through those scriptures, and it was um, I don't know, it was a really good, a really wonderful gift that God gave me in that season of just reminding me that he was, in fact, um, the more that I was looking for.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was almost like he was stirring up the desire again.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I really a lot in the sense that you lose yourself in those early childhood years of of well raising um babies, and you find, you know, so you had maybe like a really close relationship with the Lord, and you had all this time for prayer and Bible study and everything, and then you kind of lose that, but then you find it's it's not like going even back to the same thing because you find a renewed deeper sense and deeper understanding and passion and love for the word of what that more, which is just that's so fitting, and that's so amazing that he gave you that, how profound.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, and you know, since then I was you know, I actually turned it into a women's retreat that I used for them later once the kids were older, um, and kind of encouraging people because I think we all kind of lose our identity in whatever season, or we tie it so closely to either motherhood or to um your job or whatever that case may be.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: And the reality is is that our identity is in Christ, and our identity, and he, if we go to the word, he's able to speak that in to us as opposed to all the questions and doubts and insecurities.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, new moms too, we have the hormones and there's lots of them.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: The hormones I've had six babies and I've had nine pregnancies, so there have been just lots of hormones in the last 13 years of my life, and um, and so if I rest in the hormones, then I can believe all of the the negative things.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: But if I word, then I can uh I I know what God really has to say about who I am, and um you know He entrusted me with these children for a reason, so Yeah that's beautiful.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I was thinking about it too, and I was thinking, so we have twins, and um I had a I had our first child, and then three years later, um, we had our second child, and then 13 months later we had twins.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I can't imagine.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: I like to say there was like three years of my life that I don't remember.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: But um but I was thinking, I was like, how did I stay in the word during that time?
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because if I had thought I had lost myself after my first, I surely had lost myself, my sanity, everything after because I wasn't sleeping well.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, there was always somebody crying in the house.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, sometimes it was me, you know.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: And back to that time, um I really the only I had to take the word in snippets, if that makes sense.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um so after my first child, then I dove in and I really studied like what it meant to be more, and then after that went to Bible studies and like you know, really dove deep again and became a regular habit.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: When the twins were born, um, sleep was not a regular habit.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: So like eating properly was not a regular habit.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like there were things that everything just kind of fell apart and I got sacrificed in in most cases, which um so I think back at how we got through that, and and I really feel like um that was the time that I had to well, a couple things happened.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: I posted scripture more regularly.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: I would just like take a verse and put it above um my sink or um put it, you know, next to where I was going to be feeding the babies, you know, something that, or I had a little devotional, like a mom's devotional book that just gave me one scripture um that I could read while I was um nursing or feeding the babies.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: And that was helpful.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I also had a five-year-old at the time and I was homeschooling, and I think that was the time we first started as a family memorizing scripture.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually used my um children, you know, and her her kindergarten curriculum and just the little like little kids ABC Bible verses that you know, and that was the way that it kept us in the scripture um together.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, they're so easy.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: The like the A, you know, and it'll have all we like sheep have gone astray, you know, like or B and and you just kind of remember them that way.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it was a very elementary way to remember, but at that stage in our our family, it was really um what I needed.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: That was the simple you needed.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: You needed to do it, combine it with something else really meaningful and relationships and do what you already needed to do and and just it at the same time.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: So good.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: And mom model it to our children too, right?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's something that um that is important for me for them to learn and to start at an early age.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, if I can't do it for myself, then let's do it together.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: That way you see that it's still important and that we still that I still want this to be a part of our lives.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um that's it.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I would say that the other element of that was um we had Bible verses and um praise songs on as our lullabies.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so um they would be pr you know, as you're rocking and rocking and and rocking your babies, you know, like sometimes in the middle of the night in all hours, um, there would be praise music that would be playing in the background that would um kind of be filling my spirit through through those times too.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: It sets the tone as well, doesn't it?
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's the soundtrack.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have to be careful to intentionally, you know, praise and worship and turn it up and engage with it, but also I just love having it playing in the house at all times.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: It just sets a tone and sets the atmosphere, I think.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's so good.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's so practical and so wise.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: Even just yesterday, the house got kind of tense over some things that happened.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: And my daughter, who's now nine, one of the twins, she came up to me and she goes, Hey mom, do you think we could turn on some hymns?
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Yeah, yes, I think we need it.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like I think we need that reminder that um that even when we can't grasp it for ourselves, we can set the tone other ways.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's good.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: So okay, well, I know you have two babies sleeping in the back.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: So baby babies, yeah, babyhood is current again.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're in the parking lot, co-op is happening for the olders.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: What does it look like now for you?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now I was thinking uh about that too.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking, now it's I need him every hour.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like I have a 13-year-old and um, you know, two or a 10-year-old, two nine-year-olds, a two-year-old who is full to like just like 10-10.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a boy, lots of energy, and an eight-month-old that's teething.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: And so again, I'm just exhausted because I'm not getting a whole lot of sleep.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I'm realizing just how I mean I realize it regularly anyway, but just how um how inadequate or in inadequate's the wrong word, incapable I am of um of doing it alone.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so I know that I kind of went back to just recently that idea of looking up a word, um, you know, in life in a season of grief in our family also.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I just looked up hope and I've been going through the scriptures looking up hope and what that means.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we still have scripture plastered all over our house.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um that's a a a that never left.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean habit that stayed.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: How much that um is important.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I would say that I'm kind of back to the infant stage again of like having to just take what I can get, you know, like and and and that is okay.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: I have I can be okay with that and know that it doesn't have to be like deep um theological Bible study, um, deep dive in all the time that I can get the little snippets.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: So currently, I mean, I have a Jesus Always um by Sarah Young.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: I have her um little devotional right at my on my little coffee table so that when the baby gets up super early in the morning and the rest of the house is quiet, I can get those two or three little verses that come with that.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um when I'm feeling exhausted and kind of tempted to be angry because I don't want to be awake.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I can push that anger aside when I remember reminded of of um of the word in in those times.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I've also been in the my I say quote unquote, I don't feel like I have any free time, but but when I have time, I'm looking up words of hope, um, looking up in the back to look through what he has to say.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm writing it.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um often I don't have time to go deep, but I'll have my journal there with me and I'll write the scripture that I that I read so that um I can go back to it because sometimes I don't have the opportunity to sit back down necessarily with my Bible, but I'll have my I carry my journal with me wherever I go.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: So if I'm sitting in the parking lot at co-op, I can pull it out and reread some of the scriptures that he has brought to me over the last week or a couple of days so that I can say, okay, Lord, what is it exactly that you were trying to say?
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it brought peace in that moment, but sure there may be something more that you were trying to show me with that passage.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're still memorizing scripture in our homeschool day, and I still um kind of count the time that I have the word with as my own time as well.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: I just feel like it's important to remember that the little the little pieces of the word um count.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: They're not little.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: I say the little pieces, God's word is not little, like even if it's just one verse that we cling to for a long time or a long season, um, each verse has such power and ability to transform our heart and um transform our mindset um and point us back towards his truth.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I'm gonna confess I have a lot of lies that go on in my head on a regular basis, and um I'm sure we all do, and some of us are more willing to admit them than others, but they're there, and the way we combat the way I have combated those lies is um with this truth.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes I'm more successful than others, and sometimes I'm more willing to give in to the to the lie, but I know that over the last 13 years and being a mom, the only way that I've been able to sustain it is to be utterly dependent on him.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: That idea of being, I realize more and more that it's every hour, every minute, every moment of motherhood and life that I really need him.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so, how do I get that in the craziness?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: I get it by posting, you know, a Bible verse in my laundry room that reminds me that the pile of laundry is a gift from God.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's um to clothe ourselves with humility and compassion.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I and I get it by listening to hymns with my children or memorizing Bible verses, but just knowing that every minute and every moment I need it.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's beautiful.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing what a morsel of truth can do if we're really willing to digest it, ingest it, and you know, mull it over and and apply it to our lives.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's beautiful.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's awesome.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: I I I love that you are using this season and all the different various ways and the challenges that it is, and you're using it to really lean more on him and get more from his word in the process.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, I'd like to think that you know, by the time I've had my sixth child, we wouldn't have rode this roller coaster again, you know, like I still believing the lies that I'm you know not good enough as their mom or I'm not whatever.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I think, you know, that's just that's my flesh.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's just that's just the enemy trying to distract me from the calling that God's given me to raise these children and to point them towards him.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: And um, if he wins, then then I you know, I've then I haven't done what God has called me to, but I know who wins and it's not the enemy.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I I know he already, you know, God chose me and he chose you and everyone who's listening for the season and the place and the time that they are and the people that that they that he's entrusted them to them.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um and so we need him in order to to fulfill that calling.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: But uh but it was for a purpose and it was and he didn't he doesn't make mistakes.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well said, Rose.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's so good.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love the the practical inspiration that you shared, and I really believe that a lot of other mamas are gonna hear that and go, Oh yeah, I can do that.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: Even though my my season looks more challenging, and those long drinks at the well are are not in this season.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: The it's the little steps along the way that can get us through it.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for giving up nap time and I'm praying they stay asleep.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm hoping to get my journal out and maybe get a few minutes.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: I've got about 22 minutes until the girls are ready to come out.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: So awesome.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Enjoy every minute.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Rose.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Bye bye.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: All right, are you ready for a wholehearted 2019?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: I am excited to continue this three weeks to New Year with you all.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: The idea of taking time to really listen to what our hopes, wishes, and dreams are.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: It can feel kind of scary.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you haven't asked yourself or given yourself permission to dream or to hope or to wish.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: But I know each of you has some amazing hopes, wishes, and dreams, and it would be my honor to champion you on to each of those.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now remember, I have several free resources that I mentioned along the way here, and you can find all of those things in the show notes.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can take time to reflect to help you look ahead and better plan for the next few months.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can also use the prompts of figuring out how you want to grow your spirit, mind, and body.
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  SPEAKER_00: And last but not least, I didn't talk as much about it this time, but it's perfect for the new year.
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  SPEAKER_00: My creating meaningful minutes workshop will help you get on paper how you want to dictate your calendar instead of your calendar dictating your time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to thank each of you who took time to review and leave a five-star reading for our podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: What a special gift that was! I really appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It helps others find us and know that they are welcome to join us.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll be back next week with new inspiration and this whole year with amazing guests on the podcast to help you continue to pursue perspective, purpose, and plans for a simply wholehearted life.