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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. I hope you've enjoyed your breakfast cereal,
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Speaker 1: your Saturday morning cartoons, and now it's time for a
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Speaker 1: little learning from two thousand twelve. My select pick for
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Speaker 1: this week is Interpol colon World Police, because why not.
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Speaker 1: I never knew much about interpoll at all actually before
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Speaker 1: we did this podcast, and I learned quite a bit myself,
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Speaker 1: and I think you will too. So if you haven't
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Speaker 1: listened to it, I hope you enjoy it. If you have,
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Speaker 1: give it another world. Here we go with Interpol. Right now,
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Speaker 1: welcome to Stuff you should Know from House Stuff Works
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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.
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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuke Bryant. Uh. And since you put
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Speaker 1: the two of us together with microphones as we are now,
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Speaker 1: uh and press records, you get stuff you should know.
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Speaker 1: That's right. A little podcast, just a little podcast, squsty
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Speaker 1: little podcast made it sell it? Coom, how are you, sir?
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No? What is that
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Speaker 1: you know into Pol? Is that you sounded like? Um
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Speaker 1: the little Asian man who gives the box to Pinhead,
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Speaker 1: the man who eventually becomes Pinhead watches y'all plasias. Uh,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of who you want. Well, then that's what
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Speaker 1: I was doing. Good ones, my first good impression. Yet.
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Speaker 1: The guy has Interpol written all over him, he's got
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Speaker 1: a he's got an orange notice out on him. I'll
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Speaker 1: bet you green. We'll get on that later, Chuck. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty much percent sure you had nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with this, so you may not have heard about it, okay. Um.
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Speaker 1: Back in two thousand eleven, about this time March two
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Speaker 1: thousand eleven, inter POL, the international police organization, cracked a
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Speaker 1: um child pedophile ring. Nice the biggest one ever really
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Speaker 1: centered on a website I guess appropriately enough called boy
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Speaker 1: lover dot net run out of Amsterdam. Boy lover dot
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Speaker 1: net is just a straight up legitimate gay porn site,
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Speaker 1: but there was a forum there with like seventy thousand
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Speaker 1: members with that like said, well, hey, you're you're into
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing too, huh Um, I got a
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Speaker 1: video that you're gonna love, and I also have a
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Speaker 1: little boy that I'm gonna mail to you. So this
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Speaker 1: wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just using one
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Speaker 1: of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles. But
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Speaker 1: Interpol busted these guys up rescued UM two and thirty
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Speaker 1: kids arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects just
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Speaker 1: in the first sweep and pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: good for them, It is good for them. It's just
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Speaker 1: one of the many victories and triumphs over PEDERASTI that
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Speaker 1: Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty. Like
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Speaker 1: all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
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Speaker 1: syndicate or a ring, you need to watch out because
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Speaker 1: inner Poles watching you. Into Pol is right behind you.
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Speaker 1: What does you'll pla uh? And this was actually fan
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Speaker 1: generated this um. This came on Facebook like three days ago.
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Speaker 1: Oh really, I wish I would have got the guy's name.
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Speaker 1: Some kid was like, hey, can you do one Interpol?
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Speaker 1: And I went, yeah sure? Are you sure? He wasn't
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Speaker 1: talking about the band he might have been. Are they
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Speaker 1: still around? Yeah? They're still around? Uh yeah they're yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, so I don't know, dude, how
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Speaker 1: do you not like Interpol? There? Just like listen to
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Speaker 1: their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like the Inner Pole. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
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Speaker 1: INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c p O,
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Speaker 1: or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
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Speaker 1: call it the Organists Organist Internacion the police criminal very nice,
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Speaker 1: which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yess alright, So,
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Speaker 1: as you said, Josh, they are an international um, fully autonomous,
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Speaker 1: not affiliated with any single country organization. I think they're
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Speaker 1: a hundred eighty six countries nine now and they all
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Speaker 1: contribute to the to the budget to the kittie based
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Speaker 1: on their size and their g d P and some
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Speaker 1: other factors. Like it's very it's very fair, um, but
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Speaker 1: it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
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Speaker 1: to any one country um, and that they remain neutral
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Speaker 1: and they don't and they don't engage in any um
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Speaker 1: any investigations into political stuff things um contributing or being
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Speaker 1: centered on race or um religion. That's right, My brain
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Speaker 1: is now working today. My brain is uh so what
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Speaker 1: they do Josh, you just said what they don't do.
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Speaker 1: What they do do, uh terrorism, sexually do terrorism like
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Speaker 1: nobody else, sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what
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Speaker 1: you just talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM,
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Speaker 1: stolen art, money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
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Speaker 1: anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
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Speaker 1: polar helping helping out with But you said the magic
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Speaker 1: phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have. They don't run
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Speaker 1: around like arresting guys phrase bad guys. It is interpoll
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Speaker 1: UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as a
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Speaker 1: Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is they
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Speaker 1: serve as this international meeting point for UM already established
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Speaker 1: national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
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Speaker 1: I'm FBI Agent Todd Ridgeway of the Des Moines, Iowa
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Speaker 1: Field office, and your agent Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
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Speaker 1: di Stato in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is
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Speaker 1: UM hiding out near your field office in Genoa. So
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Speaker 1: I'm calling you up. I'm like ring ring, This is
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Speaker 1: Todd Ridgeway. I'm with the FBI. In Des Moines. Hey, Todd,
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Speaker 1: this is so. And see what Chuck just demonstrated was
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Speaker 1: how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak a
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Speaker 1: look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
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Speaker 1: And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi.
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Speaker 1: He should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono um who's
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Speaker 1: with the local police, because is that's what the Italian
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Speaker 1: um police bureaucracy protocol calls for. But he has no idea, no,
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Speaker 1: So what does he do? He calls into pot that's right,
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Speaker 1: and they step up and they're like, you know, you
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Speaker 1: need to get in touch with you need to get
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Speaker 1: in touch with any test of Verdie's cousin who works
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Speaker 1: for the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy,
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Speaker 1: because there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
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Speaker 1: let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
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Speaker 1: only that, I'm going and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
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Speaker 1: National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus, no National Central Bureaus
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Speaker 1: n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office. But
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Speaker 1: They have them in different countries around the world, and
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Speaker 1: they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
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Speaker 1: national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
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Speaker 1: That's the big one. Yeah, it gets you know when
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Speaker 1: you it's it's complicated enough within the United States with
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Speaker 1: jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
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Speaker 1: the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
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Speaker 1: luckily intopol Is there any peeing contests, Well, they probably
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Speaker 1: try to, but them should they exist? Um, Their big
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Speaker 1: deal is their databases, because the FBI and the CIA,
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Speaker 1: why they might all have like and whatever your country's
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Speaker 1: databases are, crime databases, they probably just extend to that country,
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Speaker 1: unless it's like some sort of database on terrorism. Um. Interpolls.
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Speaker 1: Databases are away extensive. They circle the globe and they
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Speaker 1: can track criminals pretty much anywhere and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots,
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Speaker 1: wanted people, DNA, you name it. Um. They have a
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Speaker 1: they have a database just of lost, lost in stolen
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Speaker 1: travel documents that's got more than like twelve million files
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Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. I think I saw somewhere to too
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Speaker 1: that they said most people don't try and recover those,
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Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. Yeah, well, I imagine like
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Speaker 1: if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling abroad and
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Speaker 1: they're you're not getting that back. You never know unless
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Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your stuff because
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Speaker 1: who knows that kuld that could have been stolen to
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Speaker 1: be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true, and your
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Speaker 1: name could be all drug all through the mud um
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Speaker 1: boilover dot net. That's right. UM. The the database that
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Speaker 1: they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
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Speaker 1: but they're open and their access through this UM communications
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Speaker 1: net we're called seven. That's kind of cool something because
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Speaker 1: inter poll is um. They're open seven three even on Christmas.
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Speaker 1: They're fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all
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Speaker 1: the police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, Um,
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Speaker 1: well yes I get your joke, but I mean think
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Speaker 1: about the skeleton crews that go down. I think inter
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Speaker 1: Polls open all the time because they cross all all
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Speaker 1: UM time zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind
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Speaker 1: of have to be ready to go all the time
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Speaker 1: because you know, while one guy is sleeping, the criminals
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Speaker 1: in one country are sleeping their wide awake and carrying
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Speaker 1: out bad activities and another. That's true. What else can
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Speaker 1: they do, josh? Oh? They serve that seven is also
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Speaker 1: a place where you can access another country's databases. So
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Speaker 1: this those those nationally bound databases become international through this portal,
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Speaker 1: and Interval oversees all of that, so they know what's
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Speaker 1: going on. UM. They also, let's say there's an international
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Speaker 1: disaster of some sort, like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM,
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Speaker 1: they can send an incident response team UM generally coordinated
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Speaker 1: through the u N. If there's some sort of actually
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Speaker 1: a natural disaster like the tsunami efforts, they can send
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Speaker 1: people down there to help UM identify people and look
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Speaker 1: for missing persons, UH, protect kids, because I can guarantee
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Speaker 1: you there are a lot of pedophiles who traveled who
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Speaker 1: Indonesia after that tsunami. That's right. That's crazy, man, that's
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Speaker 1: just that's awful. Imagine like losing your parents, being seven,
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Speaker 1: suddenly an orphan, and then now there's some guy who's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you're coming to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you really are. Well, you know you
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Speaker 1: understand what he's saying. He just offers you the lolly
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Speaker 1: in a in a car ride. Yeah, very sad. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But thanks to Interpoll, things like that are being thwarted.
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Speaker 1: And I saw there's two types of incident response teams. Um.
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Speaker 1: They have the criminal type and the disaster type. Um.
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Speaker 1: And but they both serve in an advisory capacity and
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Speaker 1: they show up with their database right like I can
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Speaker 1: get you into you need me. Uh. They can act
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Speaker 1: as a central command though if local authorities say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we need your help to act to central command help
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Speaker 1: us out with logistics. Um. I think the grabs are
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Speaker 1: said in two thousand five they did that twelve time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: once a month, not bad. Dust off the old work
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Speaker 1: and shoes, yeah, like get off the field, yeah, time
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Speaker 1: to get out of bed. How does it structure, Josh, Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Interpoll is made up of a general
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Speaker 1: Assembly in which each of the member nations has one
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Speaker 1: delegate and one vote. Makes a lot of sense. They
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Speaker 1: meet once a year and they vote on all the
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Speaker 1: big stuff, which kind of makes it a slow lumbering
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Speaker 1: bureaucracy unless they invest a lot of authority into the
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Speaker 1: Executive Committee, which is a thirteen member committee that basically
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Speaker 1: carries out all the administrative functions of inter Poll. And
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Speaker 1: they are elected, right, as is the Secretary General, although
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Speaker 1: it saysn't here appointed. I saw elected. Oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: now he's elected because um, I saw this guy, Ronald K. Noble.
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Speaker 1: He got an overwhelminglergy of the vote for his second reelection.
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Speaker 1: So he's in his third term, first time ever, yeah,
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Speaker 1: which is still I think he's running from under this
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Speaker 1: current term. And he is the first American secretary general
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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, right, yeah, And he's the first
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Speaker 1: three time secretary general too. Then a lot of frenchie's.
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Speaker 1: I think I saw one uh Englishman, Yeah, and uh,
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Speaker 1: there's definitely one German because there was some controversy with that.
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Speaker 1: I believe the president is Korean, now, okay, not to
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Speaker 1: be confused with the secretary General. The president is beneath him, right.
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Speaker 1: The Secretary General is who actually runs the day to
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Speaker 1: day show, right. And he's headquartered, um in the General Secretariat,
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Speaker 1: which is the main headquarters in Leon, France. That's right, um.
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Speaker 1: And then there's other there's some regional offices. There's six
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Speaker 1: of them, the sixth of which is in New York
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Speaker 1: and that's the Special liais under the u N Because
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Speaker 1: Interpol very wisely got in with the u N because
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Speaker 1: like this body has some staying power. That's right, We're
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Speaker 1: gonna become friendly with them. You can also find these
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Speaker 1: place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya, Zimbabwe and
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Speaker 1: quote their very nice did you practice in No, I
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Speaker 1: just it's name that I've said it many myself. It
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Speaker 1: means the um coast Devoir in French. Okay, uh, you
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Speaker 1: mentioned that we all all the member countries chipping for
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Speaker 1: the budget. Um. The budget is not a lot, though,
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Speaker 1: compared to like any budget in the United States. I
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Speaker 1: think in two thousand seven the grabster pointed it at
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Speaker 1: roughly sixty one million dollars US or forty four a
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Speaker 1: million euros, which I wonder what that's equal to now
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Speaker 1: two thousand seven dollars to two thousand eleven. But it's
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Speaker 1: a big change. I should have looked up the current budget.
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Speaker 1: Actually you should fail. It's okay, Chuck, Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: the notices. So this is their other big thing. Um.
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Speaker 1: They don't just sit around and and wait to be
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Speaker 1: asked for help. They also disseminate information and they do
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Speaker 1: it through color coded notices. They've got. Um, let's see
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Speaker 1: what is the nine, eight seven. Okay, so they have
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Speaker 1: eight now because they added another one after this, after
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Speaker 1: this even yes, UM, and the different color codes mean
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Speaker 1: different things. So you're going to get via teletype possibly
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Speaker 1: facts or maybe even email. You'll get like some sort
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Speaker 1: of maybe a PDF document of UM, say, orange basically
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Speaker 1: says like, hey, we've got we have pretty good idea
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Speaker 1: that there's an imminent threat and it's this guy and
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Speaker 1: he's wearing this coat and he's got a dirty bring
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Speaker 1: a bomb. Yeah, so that if you get an orange one,
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Speaker 1: your head better perk up and you need to look closely.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Black is unidentified bodies. That's a sad one.
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Speaker 1: That's the saddest of all notices. UM Yellow missing persons.
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Speaker 1: It's probably the second status uh green general information and
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Speaker 1: warnings about major criminals. So this one is kind of it. UM,
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Speaker 1: that's pretty vague. High well, it highlights another function that
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Speaker 1: they have UM that it wasn't explicitly stated in this article,
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Speaker 1: but I gleaned using my powers of deduction, that they
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Speaker 1: have analysts who crunch all this data, who poured through databases,
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Speaker 1: look at crime trends, look at criminal trends, and then
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Speaker 1: UM come up with basically just general notices. When they're
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Speaker 1: sitting around with some time on their hands, they issue
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Speaker 1: green notices that say, like, hey, here's another angle to
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Speaker 1: a case that you might not have thought of. Interesting.
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Speaker 1: Have you met this guy. Here's all the bad stuff
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Speaker 1: he's done. He may be in your neighborhood, right, that
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Speaker 1: kind of thing, And the local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval,
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Speaker 1: we got we know you've got some time on your hand. Exactly,
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Speaker 1: very nice, thank you. The blue notice, Josh is um
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Speaker 1: individuals of interest related to a crime, including the possible
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Speaker 1: witnesses or suspects or persons of interest, is a good
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Speaker 1: umbrella term for those kinds of people. Your crime that's
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Speaker 1: already been comming. People who ran with the wrong crowd.
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Speaker 1: We're at the wrong place in the wrong time and
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Speaker 1: didn't stick around. Yeah. On an international level, that's right. Red. Recently,
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Speaker 1: Mr Juliana Sans was issued the red notice, which means
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Speaker 1: you are wanted and it's sort of like a worldwide
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Speaker 1: a PB. You gotta keep that. You print it out
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Speaker 1: and put it on your wall. What a red inner
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Speaker 1: pol notice on you? Oh yeah, I got you. Although
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Speaker 1: although Sane probably wasn't too fond of his I'll bet
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Speaker 1: he kept his you think. I'll bet he's one of
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Speaker 1: the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: can never tell if it's real or not. Like you
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Speaker 1: or I could make our own. I maybe we should
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Speaker 1: do that. Why not. I have a feeling one's coming
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Speaker 1: our way. Uh. Interpoll notice, which is not a color.
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Speaker 1: That was scary to me because it was the only
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Speaker 1: one that's not a color. Unless the new one you
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Speaker 1: talked about is not a color, It's okay. The Interpol
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Speaker 1: notice means, um uh, it's a U n UH Security
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Speaker 1: Council Special noticed, meaning groups of individuals involved with al
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Speaker 1: Qaeda or the Taliban or at work. Yeah, people who
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Speaker 1: have UN sanctions on them. Um. Then there's now the
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Speaker 1: Purple notice, which, um basically it's kind of like a
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Speaker 1: green notice. It's like, hey, be aware of this kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff that's going on, but it's about what people
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Speaker 1: are doing, like international criminal trends. Like do you remember
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Speaker 1: I think they were like pen guns. There was like
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Speaker 1: just a few years back, there was like a pen
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Speaker 1: that could shoot and it was very low powered. But
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Speaker 1: I think inter Poll sent out a notice on this, like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you guys need to be aware that this thing's out
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Speaker 1: there I saw in the movie. Okay, well, inter Poll
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Speaker 1: probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee inter Poll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
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Speaker 1: It was Fred fred Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard, fred
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Speaker 1: Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
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Speaker 1: a he had a pin gun and shot at dude
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Speaker 1: in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
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Speaker 1: was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or less with Danny McBride
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Speaker 1: and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook,
19:36
Speaker 1: he played Facebook, Mark Zucker, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg. They
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Speaker 1: were both in that. It was sort of funny but
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Speaker 1: not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
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Speaker 1: Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden need to shoot this stude in the neck
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Speaker 1: with it. That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: was very much. Um. I watched Inside Man again last night.
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Speaker 1: That's such a good movie. Which one is that Spike
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Speaker 1: Lee heist movie with Clive Owens that dude really Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you hadn't seen it either. I made her watch you
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Speaker 1: last night. She's like, this is a good movie. That's
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Speaker 1: one of the few Spike Lea movies. I have not
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Speaker 1: seen It's see that, all right, have you seen? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's a good one too. I think inside Man hasn't
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Speaker 1: beaten all right. So yeah, Purple is just basically like
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Speaker 1: information on new types of criminal activity that people need
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Speaker 1: to be made aware of, Like pen guns, got you
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Speaker 1: and fred Ward, But the pen gun was a real warning.
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Speaker 1: We're a real purple warning. Notice, I don't know, I'm
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Speaker 1: just assuming I'm using for example, got So let's talk
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Speaker 1: about the history of inter poll Chuck. It has a strange,
20:39
Speaker 1: tumultuous history that closely follows the tumult of the twentieth
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Speaker 1: century if you ask me. Yeah, and Ed kind of
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Speaker 1: breeze right over the whole Nazi part of it. Yeah,
20:50
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's back up.
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Speaker 1: They were formed and being in Austria, uh, during World
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Speaker 1: War two. Ed says they were interrupted when the Nazis
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Speaker 1: took control, deposed the Secretary General, moved to Berlin for
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Speaker 1: a short time, but then after the war everything was rebuilt.
21:12
Speaker 1: They moved to Paris, and that's kind of all he said.
21:15
Speaker 1: I looked a little further into it, and it's pretty uh,
21:19
Speaker 1: pretty controversial those years UM when it was under Nazi
21:22
Speaker 1: rule obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters with the Gestapo, officially
21:27
Speaker 1: operated UM as a division within the Nazi Security Police,
21:33
Speaker 1: and to Nazi war criminals were the agency's presidents during
21:38
Speaker 1: the wartime. Plus they overspent on Christmas parties. Uh. And
21:46
Speaker 1: then this I read a Times article and some of
21:49
Speaker 1: the comments back to the editorial said, you guys even
21:52
Speaker 1: kind of whitewashed it because after the war they refused
21:55
Speaker 1: to take part in the sixties and seventies in any
21:58
Speaker 1: of the Nazi war crime hunting war criminal hunts. Crazy. Uh, wow,
22:05
Speaker 1: I had no idea, Chuck, I'm really glad you did this. Yeah.
22:08
Speaker 1: And then uh, in nineteen sixty eight, their president uh
22:12
Speaker 1: to seventy two was Paul Dickkopp, and he was an
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Speaker 1: s S officer. No, he was and remained president despite
22:21
Speaker 1: them finding out about this and knowing about this, And
22:23
Speaker 1: that was pretty controversial too. Jeez, I'll bet you don't
22:26
Speaker 1: usually want Nazis leading your organization former Nazis either, No,
22:31
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Once a Nazi, always a
22:34
Speaker 1: Nazi in my opinion, Well, dip cop was the he
22:39
Speaker 1: was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah, and
22:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people say interpoll
22:47
Speaker 1: is like run without oversight and they have all this access,
22:52
Speaker 1: but no one has access to their real like how
22:55
Speaker 1: they do things the opposite of how grab Minowski tells it. Yeah,
22:58
Speaker 1: it's a little more controversial than I thought once start
23:00
Speaker 1: poking around. Well, I I guess it was probably the
23:03
Speaker 1: VHS tapes that started to bring them out of the
23:05
Speaker 1: dark and into uh, I guess a brighter role. Remember
23:09
Speaker 1: the Interpol warning on old video cassettes? Now was that interval?
23:13
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Now it's like an FBI warring but before
23:15
Speaker 1: and every once in a while you'll still see it
23:17
Speaker 1: like Interpol warning. It's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um.
23:22
Speaker 1: But yeah, apparently they now are they've shed themselves of
23:25
Speaker 1: Nazis and have a third term Secretary General who's busting
23:31
Speaker 1: pedophiles in Amsterdam. And did you pretty I think that's good.
23:36
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh yeah, yeah, they they've apparently tried to
23:39
Speaker 1: clean up their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man, um.
23:43
Speaker 1: And you did you hear about the Executive Order Obama
23:46
Speaker 1: signed in oh nine. It was pretty controversial among conservatives
23:50
Speaker 1: because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
23:57
Speaker 1: was signed in the law, and basically that meant the
24:00
Speaker 1: president could say certain organizations, international organizations that worked in
24:04
Speaker 1: the US are exempted from certain things like taxes, search
24:08
Speaker 1: and sees or laws. And pretty much every president has
24:11
Speaker 1: said you can be a part of this, like the
24:13
Speaker 1: Red Cross Reagan UH in nine three included interpoll um
24:21
Speaker 1: as part of that group songs like four different sections
24:26
Speaker 1: dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs duties,
24:31
Speaker 1: and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated. Then
24:37
Speaker 1: in nine Obama said those four things now you're immune
24:41
Speaker 1: from as well, so you have full immunity interpoll does
24:45
Speaker 1: in the United States from these things. And conservatives got
24:49
Speaker 1: up in arms about, you know, the fact that Obama
24:51
Speaker 1: had signed this. They tend to get up in our
24:54
Speaker 1: fund anything and signed like his his dinner check here. UH.
24:59
Speaker 1: But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
25:03
Speaker 1: I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
25:05
Speaker 1: basically saying interpoll has more rights to do their thing
25:09
Speaker 1: in the United States. So which way do you want
25:11
Speaker 1: it or do you just want to complain about everything
25:14
Speaker 1: that he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know what, this really didn't give them any more
25:20
Speaker 1: free reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
25:24
Speaker 1: It is sort of finished up what he started. So
25:28
Speaker 1: who knows. Regardless regardless of which side you sit on
25:31
Speaker 1: on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
25:35
Speaker 1: end you got any more? Uh? Some successes. You talked
25:57
Speaker 1: about the tsunami in two thousand four. That was one, um,
26:01
Speaker 1: and get your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours,
26:05
Speaker 1: thirty countries, that's pretty huge. Um. They helped identify and
26:11
Speaker 1: capture a Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I
26:18
Speaker 1: bet it's lukitch uh in Argentina coordinating between Argentina and
26:23
Speaker 1: Chile and uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Nice yeah, um, And let's see. Uh.
26:31
Speaker 1: They they also had one Um. You remember the Madrid
26:34
Speaker 1: train bombings. Man, I had forgotten about those, kill the
26:38
Speaker 1: d ninety people. Um. And they managed to catch at
26:43
Speaker 1: least one guy. They they found twenty one guilty, but
26:46
Speaker 1: the Interpol called at least one guy through coordination between Belgrade,
26:50
Speaker 1: Baghdad and Madrid offices. And did you know the twenty
26:54
Speaker 1: one people who were found guilty of that got to
26:56
Speaker 1: combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah, he'll probably
27:01
Speaker 1: never get out. No, no, I don't think they're going
27:04
Speaker 1: to get out. And then grabs your pointed this one out.
27:07
Speaker 1: A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and photographs of
27:11
Speaker 1: Abou Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds kind of whatever.
27:16
Speaker 1: But then you're like, oh, yeah, how would you get that, guys?
27:19
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I thought the same thing, and then
27:21
Speaker 1: I thought twice. I was like, now, I guess that
27:22
Speaker 1: is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentioning. Yeah. Sure,
27:26
Speaker 1: I didn't find a lot of stuff though, search for more. Yeah,
27:29
Speaker 1: same here. And I think they're sort of behind the
27:30
Speaker 1: scenes that they're like, we're not gonna have any big
27:33
Speaker 1: arrest because we don't do that. Um, but we're involved
27:36
Speaker 1: in a lot of those on the back end on
27:39
Speaker 1: their website, UM, which is a pretty cool, user friendly website. Agreed,
27:43
Speaker 1: It's like, here's a lot of information that's very vague. Yeah,
27:46
Speaker 1: Like we have two kinds of response teams, criminal and disaster.
27:50
Speaker 1: And that's all we're gonna say about that kind of thing.
27:52
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm interested to hear if anyone knows
27:55
Speaker 1: anymore about their controversies. I'm curious, does your dad work
27:59
Speaker 1: at Interpol? We want to know. Um, you got anything else?
28:04
Speaker 1: So if you want to learn more about inter poll
28:06
Speaker 1: and and read a very glowing review of their life
28:10
Speaker 1: and work, very glossy, whitewashed review, Um, you can type
28:15
Speaker 1: in Interpol I N T E R P O L.
28:17
Speaker 1: And did we say where they got the name? I
28:19
Speaker 1: don't think we did. I don't think so. So with
28:22
Speaker 1: the advent of telegraph communications, they're like, man, we need
28:27
Speaker 1: to uh, we need to shorten this or else people
28:30
Speaker 1: aren't gonna waste the money with Western Union talking about us,
28:34
Speaker 1: So they shorten their name to Interpol. Instead of the
28:37
Speaker 1: longer I c OP. They should just call I c OP. Yeah,
28:42
Speaker 1: I COP. Yeah, Yeah, Well, don't type I guess you
28:46
Speaker 1: could type I COP into the search. Probably some mac
28:49
Speaker 1: Apple app now that allows you to like make citizens arrest. Um,
28:56
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Thanks, we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah,
29:00
Speaker 1: type I COP in the search bart how stuff works
29:03
Speaker 1: dot com? And I said search bar. It just didn't
29:05
Speaker 1: you know it, which means it's time for listener mel Josh,
29:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this uh uh a brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
29:15
Speaker 1: it's a big, big time one of the big daddies.
29:18
Speaker 1: Hey guys, just finished listening to the Beer Podcast and
29:20
Speaker 1: felt compelled to write. I used to live in Atlanta
29:23
Speaker 1: and missed the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick
29:25
Speaker 1: store pub every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer
29:29
Speaker 1: and also happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM,
29:33
Speaker 1: also now known as a b in Bev. As was
29:36
Speaker 1: mentioned in the podcast, It's a pretty sweet gig that
29:39
Speaker 1: all started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
29:46
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
29:47
Speaker 1: spot on with the info and brewing one on one
29:50
Speaker 1: except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM. I have
29:53
Speaker 1: worked because I think we said that that the big
29:56
Speaker 1: breweries like forced carbon eat everything. Not so UM. I've
29:59
Speaker 1: worked in a cup full of crapperies aside from my
30:01
Speaker 1: current job at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen
30:05
Speaker 1: this before. I can't speak for the other big guys.
30:08
Speaker 1: But our beer at anh Anheuser Busch is made pretty
30:11
Speaker 1: much the same way as other small craft beers. We
30:15
Speaker 1: just have much larger equipment and more automation at annhuser Busch.
30:20
Speaker 1: After primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank
30:23
Speaker 1: for as long as twenty one days. In the case
30:27
Speaker 1: of the famous Budweiser, I've heard of that one days
30:32
Speaker 1: um during the aging process, the beer is still fermating
30:34
Speaker 1: slightly and builds up C O two in the tank.
30:37
Speaker 1: This is how our beer is carbonated all naturals, similar
30:40
Speaker 1: to the priming homebrew in bottles. And uh, that's it,
30:45
Speaker 1: he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
30:47
Speaker 1: pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
30:50
Speaker 1: send us the money first, and then we'll go have
30:52
Speaker 1: a four twenty on you. That's what I say, David.
30:54
Speaker 1: Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
30:57
Speaker 1: us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
31:00
Speaker 1: to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
31:02
Speaker 1: I was sort of snobby with all my I p
31:05
Speaker 1: A s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
31:07
Speaker 1: but the Triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
31:13
Speaker 1: which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and perhaps I like. Yeah,
31:19
Speaker 1: I like all those. I'm fine with those, and I
31:21
Speaker 1: don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
31:23
Speaker 1: taste of like a delicious i PA, but I certainly
31:26
Speaker 1: don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
31:28
Speaker 1: then you're definitely not a beer snob. No not, you
31:31
Speaker 1: like the drinking pood You remember those kids in college?
31:34
Speaker 1: Did you know anybody in college you could like recite
31:36
Speaker 1: what it said on the neck label of the Budweiser bottle,
31:40
Speaker 1: like what it says the writing. I didn't know anyone.
31:43
Speaker 1: It's like, this is Budweiser, the finest beer ever produced
31:47
Speaker 1: to Bud Bud. I used to go to school with
31:49
Speaker 1: kids who could recite that like by heart, and I
31:51
Speaker 1: always thought it was Ken's sad. Yeah, I didn't even know.
31:54
Speaker 1: I've never even read the bottle. It's easier if you
31:56
Speaker 1: have like a beach towel, because the lettering is way
31:59
Speaker 1: bigger than you can be more instant. Oh and I
32:02
Speaker 1: also got called out by a fan for being a
32:04
Speaker 1: hipster for drinking paps, and I was like, dude, I've
32:07
Speaker 1: been drinking PBR since like, and it amused me when
32:13
Speaker 1: it became a hipster beer. I was like, really, it
32:15
Speaker 1: blows my mind how much we share ourselves and how
32:18
Speaker 1: much we have in the four plus episodes, and there's
32:21
Speaker 1: so many people out there who do not know us
32:23
Speaker 1: at all. So, UM, I guess if you want to
32:29
Speaker 1: offer us money for beer, that's cool, or you can
32:31
Speaker 1: just send us beer. We're not done with that call
32:33
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32:36
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