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BEST broadhead for hunting | How to STALK better ft. Brandon Mcdonald, Ty Jordan, Bow Boy, and MFJJ · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  We are back with another Boat Disciples podcast.
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  Today we actually have 4 great guests, the first of which is a
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  first time of all. Start with the first right?
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  And what else is cool is this is our first time ever on a pod
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  together. It really.
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  Is that's why when you said we are back, I'm like we have not
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  been here. We have not, no, no, but we're,
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  we're down here in Mexico or no, I'm sorry, Texas, we're in,
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  we're close to Mexico, but we're in Texas.
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  We're hunting collared peckeries.
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  Collared Peckeries, The American Peckery.
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  It is a phenomenal critter pound for pound.
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  Probably the toughest little thing I've ever shot at and
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  missed a many of times on the script.
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  I didn't even know a lot of boys and gals them them things are
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  fast. Even while the arrows in the
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  air, they're still fast. But it has been absolutely fun.
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  Now we've had so many laughs. I don't even care if I I'm
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  lying. I do care if I filled that last
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  tag. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's a wholesome. Feeling Oh yeah, I mean, the
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  vibe has been spectacular. It's been super fun.
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  And you, you mentioned the string jumps, right, Because
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  we've all experienced some string jumps and we have them on
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  camera. So it's like no bullshit, You
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  can see it. Tell me what you think causes
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  string jump for the most part. Do you think it's the sound of
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  the bow, the sound of the arrow, the sound of both?
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  Like what is, what do you? What's your synopsis of that?
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  Initially, definitely the sound of the bow.
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  That's why it's called the string jump.
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  Those strings on the bow. Obviously I don't believe
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  majority of the time it's going to be the sound of the arrow
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  unless you just have some loud ass fletchings, which typically
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  when you're shooting at 50-60 yards, even the shooter can hear
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  it go down the range and they know hey, I need to change
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  something. But I would say 95% of the time
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  it's definitely just going to be the sound coming from the bow
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  itself. What have you found is like your
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  quietest vein that you've shot? I'm sure you've tested some
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  different ones being that you have access to a bow shop.
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  There's so many good ones out there right now.
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  I'm a huge fan of the Tag Driver 2.2 fives.
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  I will say they are probably not the quietest, but they're
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  arguably the toughest in my opinion.
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  They even being a lower profile fletching, they steer big bulky
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  broadheads really good. In my experience, a lot of
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  people have had really good success with the AE Max stealth
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  sweep fletch. A lot of those.
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  I know Josh has another brand that he's a big fan of and I've
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  I've listened to his arrows. They're actually really quashed
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  up. Filmed a many of shots for him
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  this week and I don't think I've heard the arrow one time.
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  Yeah, once he leaves the bow. Yeah.
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  That's phenomenal. Yeah, no, I I think that the
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  arrow is so important. I shot, I've shot Blazers for a
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  long time, but Blazers are loud. So I'm actually switching over
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  to the alpha by boning and it's a lot, lot quieter because it's
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  lower profile. So that's been pretty cool.
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  But you know, I think another factor of string jumps that gets
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  discussed less, but I do believe is a thing is I think animals
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  actually see the arrow as well. Because I like when you watch
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  footy and the arrow gets 2/3 of the way and you see them start
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  to duck and turn, I think oftentimes they catch it.
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  It's like if we were to watch a family go by us right now,
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  you're going to see it and flinch a little.
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  But I don't know if there's a way other than run dull
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  fletchings and maybe like dust your arrow so it doesn't shine
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  to reduce the visual. So that's one of the reasons why
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  I don't typically, not saying I'm against them, but that's one
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  of the reasons why I don't typically run lighted knocks,
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  especially if I know I'm going to be potentially taking the
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  shot past 30 yards because I know for a fact, obviously
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  that's like a train coming at the animal when they see that
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  lighted knock on the back of the arrow, they can pick that up a
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  lot sooner versus without 1. And that's also coming from a
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  guy with white wraps and white fletchings.
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  But at the same time, they're not glowing, right?
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  Yeah. Right.
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  But you think about it and like that's such a good point about
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  the lit knock, but same with your white fletchings and white
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  wrap. Like if you were to switch those
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  to like black or, you know, like a matte green, you wonder if
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  maybe that would make a little bit of a difference because
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  those string jumps have been impressive.
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  They had this. Also, if you go to a much duller
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  coloration as far as fleshing at wraps it, it makes the shooter
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  struggle to see their shot placement better.
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  And hard to find your arrow. Yeah, Which nobody likes.
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  And. Read The Blood.
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  Yeah, all that stuff. So it's like I have.
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  Learned on this trip if you just missed the damn thing all
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  together, you don't have to worry about reading blood, so
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  just grab your air going. Dude what's what's been like so
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  far of the hunt camp? I think today is our 3rd, 4th
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  day. What's been your favorite like
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  highlight of the trip so far? We've had a lot of laughs, a lot
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  of knee slappers, but what's been what's been the standout
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  one for you so far? Godly.
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  I don't know. I mean, there's I would really
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  have to like go back and look at some footage.
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  We had so many good laughs. I mean, probably when me and
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  Josh got our pants, got caught with our pants down literally.
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  Well, I took my pants down to show the analogy, but while we
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  literally had have these running back and forth and we kept
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  looking the wrong direction and they'd run across, as we look
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  back, they'd run back the other way.
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  It was just, dude, you're in a seesaw just going like this,
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  dude, Yeah. It's so much fun.
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  It's like they're everywhere, but we can't do anything about
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  it. Dude and Javelina live in the
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  thickest, nastiest stuff. That's what makes them so tough
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  is like, unless they're in the open.
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  That's what makes glassing them so hard is like you can only see
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  them if they're in the right spot, so you got to look at the
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  same terrain over and over and over till they're there.
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  And that's what's nice about these roads and the high racking
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  is when they're in the road they're not hard to see.
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  But imagine trying to find them in the thick stuff bro.
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  So going out on one heavy track, I look like I tried out for a
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  roll and 50 Shades of grey, like there's stretch marks all over
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  me. Like if I was married, there
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  would be some suspicion when I got home.
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  Zeezo Pete, there's I got I got AI.
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  Just listened to this podcast and this dude was saying that in
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  2010 I think it was the top three books in sales was 50
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  Shades of Grey 1-2 and three. They were the 1-2 and three
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  highest. Selling books dude.
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  Have you not seen the movies? No, but the books have pictures.
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  I I never read them? If so, I might have to go pick.
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  Up say, I would definitely go and look at it.
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  In those cases, the movies are. Phenomenal.
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  Were they also? I haven't.
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  Seen. Both of them were good.
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  Dude, next time you're mad at your old lady, go watch that and
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  be in in separate rooms. You know, watch it separately
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  and then come back. Meet in the kitchen, Yeah.
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  All right, fine. I do have multiple TV's too, so
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  that work, you know? Yeah, dude, it's just been fun
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  hunting these peccaries. And I know you've been here once
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  before. You're actually the one who kind
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  of put this hunt together, which I'm unthankful for.
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  You did a #1 the spots great, EJ and everyone here is awesome.
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  The hunting's been great, but what made you want to come back?
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  Because you've been on a lot of hunts.
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  So sometimes it's like, you know, I liked it, but maybe I
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  won't go back. And this one you told us all
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  ahead of time, like, you know, this place is special.
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  Can't wait to come. Like what made you get hooked in
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  to come back? Like, like you said what I said
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  it, it is special. And until you experience this
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  place, I mean, a lot of people know EJA.
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  Lot of people know that he's well, I said a lot of people
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  don't realize he's actually a biologist.
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  He's smarter than he looks. But a lot of people also don't
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  realize he's probably, he's probably got more kills behind
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  the prime both than anybody else in the world.
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  And that's not an exaggeration. People don't realize how good of
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  a hunter he is. People don't realize what kind
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  of vibe he brings because when you meet him, you're like, yeah,
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  he's probably like an everyday hunter like the rest of us.
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  And then you start looking at his world records.
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  You're like, oh, no, we're not the same.
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  No, no, no, we're not the same. Oh, yeah.
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  But the, the fact that you, you know, this place doesn't have an
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  address. Like, I wanted to send my energy
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  drinks here to drink them. I I couldn't like unless my hair
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  dropped in by a drunk but. It'll fly it over here.
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  Yeah, obviously y'all have experienced and that's why I was
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  telling y'all, you know, that this place is special.
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  But you know, until you come here, see the layout, see what
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  it has to offer, feel the vibe, it, you really can't explain it
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  until you're actually here and experience it.
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  Dude that's dope. I think that's really well said
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  and EJ is a phenomenal hunter dude.
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  I really like watching him do his thing because I can tell
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  that he's so good and obviously mega accomplished.
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  His Instagram is what Pura bura. Bura, bura.
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  Yeah, go shoot him a follow if you haven't, because his his
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  contents really good and man has he had some hammers of like so
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  many different species. He's got so many stuff that
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  there's so much stuff that I'm like, what?
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  I don't even know what it is. And he'll mess to be like, oh,
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  Kazakhstan, I'm like, I didn't know you get a license out,
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  dude. And the way I describe EJ is,
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  you know, I'm a hunter. I describe him as a killer.
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  Yeah, right. He's good.
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  He's. A freaking monster.
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  So all right, what is your favorite animal of all time to
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  hunt? Small game, big game, doesn't
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  matter. Well, here, here's the thing.
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  And I guess I'm a little weird because one, I haven't haunted
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  that many different species of animals, but I've always said I
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  will hunt just about anything, but I won't hunt with anyone.
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  That's why I invited this particular group here because,
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  you know, I knew we were going to have a good time.
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  Otherwise I would have said, hey, take time, time out of your
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  daily schedule and all that shit to come out here.
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  But you know, when I invite some people, that means I like them.
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  I want to be around them. I know it's going to be a good
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  time. I know we're going to vibe off
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  each other And on top of that, all the other shit we get to
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  shoot at is a bonus. So once again, I'll go hunting
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  any with, I'll go hunt anything, but I won't go hunting with
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  anyone because I believe you can always have a good time even if
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  it's not a successful hunt. But once again, I mean, I think
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  even though we've had successful hunts here, we're having a good
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  time regardless. Totally.
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  Regardless, yeah dude, that is a freaking good way to put it.
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  All right, pal. Hey, it's been a pleasure, Sir.
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  Thanks for everything, and we'll get our next guy in the game.
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  Got to reset my timer here as I do have one on deck.
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  Lovely I. Mean you're just going to.
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  Cut this. No, leave it running.
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  No, I'm not organic. No, he's an organic boy all.
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  Right. Southern California boy, he's
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  organic. Shout out to shout out to Socal
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  dude, appreciate. All the positive words from
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  Scotty, but I immediately have to contradict something he said.
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  OK, right when I walked out here I went, no, they don't see your
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  lighted knock. It's a 180 from them.
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  There's no way they see your lighted knock.
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  They can't. The arrow's in the way now.
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  The Fletchings, yes, sure, I can see that, but they're not seeing
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  your lighted knock. You don't think there's an orb?
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  No, I do not. I don't think they can see it.
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  I can see him talking to Brandon.
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  That's fantastic. Yeah, I disagree with that.
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  Everything else he said 100%. I don't agree with that.
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  I don't think they see your lighted knock.
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  Yeah, yeah, who know, I mean it would be something that would be
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  pretty easy to see is just get film a shot getting from the
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  front dish and see. But what do you think?
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  Do you think that the point of the animals reacting can be from
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  seeing I? Think they hear your bow go off
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  and then I think they hear it coming.
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  Yeah, you don't think they see it?
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  They could, but I don't necessarily think they see it.
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  I think there's a possibility they see it, but I don't.
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  I wouldn't guarantee it. I can guarantee they hear it.
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  There's no way they don't hear it because you can see the
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  initial reaction from hearing the noise, and then you see a
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  more pronounced reaction from as the arrow gets closer.
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  And you can prove that easier by watching a group of six and only
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  one of them traditionally reacts every once in a while. 2 will,
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  maybe 3 will, but they're not all reacting.
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  Now why is that? Well, I would assume that the
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  sound is traveling more directly at the one that does react.
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  Which would implicate that it's sound.
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  Yeah. And I I agree.
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  I think, I think it is. I think sound is the primary
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  factor. Yeah, I think sound gets alerted
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  before visual does. I think visuals like dumb luck
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  if anything. Yeah, I mean, it's it's, it's
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  hard to see a fastball coming at you, right?
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  That was it. How?
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  How far is it from the pitcher's mound to the?
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  60 feet 6 inches. So you're talking 20 yards. 60
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  feet is not 20 yards. That's like 16 yards.
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  Yeah, it is 20 yards, I think. No. 90 feet is 20 yards.
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  It's three feet, No. 60 OH. Sorry, my, I'm not about 30
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  yards. Thank you.
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  Oh, yeah, it's 20 yards. Yeah.
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  And you can barely see that coming, right?
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  Multiply that by three, right. Do you really?
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  You think you're seeing it? I think so.
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  I I do believe it and just from watching footage that I've
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  watched watch, but again, I'm not a scientist.
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  I just well, neither am I yeah, but but nonetheless, I think
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  that it's an interesting topic that really pertains to this
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  hunt and folks will see it when they see all of our various
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  videos because there was a lot of string jumps out here.
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  So it's just about, you know, obviously getting closer is good
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  and and blah, blah, blah. But what has your thought been?
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  Because I know you've you've shot a peccary before, but what
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  what like how how have you liked high racking them and going out
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  on these stocks like if you. I got to be honest, this is
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  probably the funnest thing I think I've done.
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  And it's the funnest thing for a couple of reasons.
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  One, you're all sitting together.
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  Oh yeah. Where you're looking for an
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  opportunity. You don't get that.
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  Traditionally you get 1 here, one there, one there, right?
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  Or there's two of you together, maybe 3 of you together.
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  The likelihood of all you being able to sit together and
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  bullshit while you're going to from the thing to the thing to
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  The thing is rare. Yeah, that parts really cool.
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  And you literally get to watch the other guys hunt.
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  Like some of the some of the coolest experiences I've had on
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  this is watching somebody else shoot something for sure.
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  Like you don't get to see that traditionally.
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  It's not normal. Yeah.
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  So this is a this is a very unique thing overall that I
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  don't think you can really duplicate.
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  So I really would like to thank Scotty very much for inviting us
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  on this because this is a great time, this is an amazing place.
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  To the place. Like it's sick.
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  The trophy room is so nice. The food's been great.
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  And like, I mean, everything about it's been awesome.
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  Even seeing animals, we're not hunting, you know, seeing deer,
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  seeing horses, seeing cattle. Seeing horses that I thought was
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  no, yeah. That was hilarious.
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  Turtles. Not like, yeah, it's amazing
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  stuff. It's just cool.
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  We're being relatively, we're being relatively disciplined on
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  our pops, wouldn't you say? For me and you, I don't know
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  they. Already had to go back to the
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  store. All right, all right, hit me
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  with this. Hit me with this.
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  Get it? Give me from 3rd place to 1st
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  place your favorite light beers. 3rd to 1st.
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  I know that's a hard hitting question.
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  Culture would be third, OK Miller Lite would be second and
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  Keystone Lite would be first. OK, And I know that's cringy,
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  but I grew up with. That I do not think that's an.
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  Adlet it's keystone lights, a hidden gem and I don't really
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  want to put that out in the world because I like going to
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  the store and still finding it and the rack not being empty
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  it's. Relatively cheap, Yep.
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  It's one of the cheapest things you can buy.
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  It's right there with Bush light and keystone light.
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  Yep. But like Coors Light ass.
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  Yeah, it's the more expensive keystone light.
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  I don't get it. It's the can or something.
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  It's not as good. So different your list.
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  I think honestly a very pro ranking.
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  I would probably go almost the same.
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  I would just definitely swap Keystone for Bush and I might
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  change the order a little bit, but they would be the same top
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  three for me pretty much. That's a pro list.
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  So if you got a. Miller Lite to me would probably
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  be maybe numeral Uno so. Are you are you ditching
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  Keystone light all together in that list?
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  I would swap it for Bush. OK, so you'd get rid of it all
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  together? Yeah.
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  For Bush, but again for me it would probably slot like right
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  there, 4th or 5th. Yeah, and you might wear dresses
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  in Great Mop. You never know.
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  Who knows? Who knows?
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  Life is, but a is. A low key joke.
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  Life is but a dream. But all right.
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  Well, I think that is a pro ranking.
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  What have you learned on this hunt that you maybe have not on
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  another hunt? Like what was something that you
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  didn't expect to learn, but maybe coming home you're going
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  to go? You know what that was?
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  I'm going to keep that in the memory bank.
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  That I don't think anybody accurately shows the vitals on a
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  javelina. Like you.
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  Like, look it up online. Yeah.
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  You're like, where I, I want to cut one of these things open so
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  bad. Like, explain to me where the
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  lungs and the heart are because apparently they're not anywhere
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  where you would see it. Yeah, it's wild.
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  Like, you got to shoot them way far forward, which is very true
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  for most African animals, which I know they're not an African
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  animal, but in general, that's that you you hug the shoulder up
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  way more than you would think. But it still doesn't, like,
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  compute when I'm looking at it. Doesn't quite add up.
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  Yeah, they are. They are unique to hit as far as
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  like back to front but also height wise because they have
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  such long hair on their back. It's sort of like a Turkey when
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  they're strutting. Yeah, it's if they're, you know,
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  if they're quilled up, though if they're not, it's not, it's.
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  Yeah, it's not much. Yeah.
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  But if they are puffed up, it's like, you know, shooting a
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  Turkey and you really got to like focus on that drumstick and
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  get up in there. But the shop in Nashville, the
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  pod, all that's doing really, really good.
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  Very blessed. Yeah, it's been really, really
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  cool to watch. What is do you have any,
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  anything super exciting coming up?
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  We don't necessarily need any leaks unless you want to provide
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  them, but what are you excited about?
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  We should be pulling Broadhead testing this year and I'm I'm in
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  negotiations for a house down there so I can have a home base
• 17:01
  and set up some more testing stuff.
• 17:03
  I've started filming in Nashville because I'm there half
• 17:06
  the time and it was really running out of enough time to be
• 17:09
  able to make the content that I needed to make to keep up the
• 17:11
  pace that I have. And I'm, I'm really hoping to
• 17:15
  start doing broadhead testing in the next month to two months
• 17:17
  somewhere around there and start putting out some pretty cool
• 17:20
  visuals, the slow MO's and whatnot to give you a better
• 17:24
  visual of what's actually going on, you know, and be able to
• 17:27
  test some things and give them a ranking.
• 17:28
  And hopefully overtime that ranking gets adopted into the
• 17:31
  end of the industry to where you can as a consumer can go, OK,
• 17:35
  well, I'm going to shoot this big of an animal with this much
• 17:37
  poundage and this much air weight.
• 17:39
  What broadheads should I stay with and what should I stay away
• 17:42
  from? Because there's not really
• 17:43
  anything like that. You know, there's so much debate
• 17:45
  back and forth of, you know, do I shoot a mega meat?
• 17:48
  Do I shoot a dead meat? Do I shoot a beast?
• 17:50
  Do I shoot a severed? Do I shoot a iron will?
• 17:53
  Do I shoot a this or that? And there should be some kind of
• 17:55
  a gauge of metric that, hey, from this line, this direction,
• 17:59
  use that. From this line, that direction,
• 18:01
  use the other. And I mean, even even people
• 18:04
  that are really big advocates for those big ass mechanical
• 18:07
  broadheads will stop using them when the animal gets to a
• 18:09
  certain size. Where's the line at for the
• 18:11
  average person? And that's my goal overall.
• 18:14
  The testing is to be able to create one.
• 18:16
  Yeah. Say, look, here's kind of where
• 18:17
  you should stop using this and start using that based off of
• 18:20
  what you're hunting. I think that's awesome because
• 18:23
  you're you're absolutely right. Like the old phrase, there's
• 18:27
  multiple ways to skin a cat. That's especially true when
• 18:30
  you're hunting stuff of different shapes and sizes and
• 18:33
  durability on the animal. Plus every shooter is also
• 18:37
  different. Like Brianna setup is going to
• 18:39
  have to look different than mine and mine's going to have to look
• 18:42
  different than someone like Bomar or Cam.
• 18:45
  So I think that a chart like that that's like not this one is
• 18:48
  trash and the this one's great. It's like no, this one here is
• 18:52
  good for XY and this one's good for Z.
• 18:56
  Well, that's a cool way to do. It and all you got to do is
• 18:58
  collate that back to KE, right? Because kinetic energy is based
• 19:01
  off velocity and how much airway you have and how fast it's
• 19:04
  sleeping the bow, you get those measurables, right?
• 19:07
  So if you have the KE, you know where the line can be drawn and
• 19:10
  say just measure your velocity and go off your physical air
• 19:13
  weight to the KE equation and you'll know where you should
• 19:16
  draw the line at for what animal.
• 19:17
  That's the goal. Now let me ask you this, yeah,
• 19:21
  not brand, but what is your favorite?
• 19:24
  Like let's just say for for deer, elk and peccaries and
• 19:29
  turkeys like that type of animal size and range.
• 19:34
  What is your favorite type of broadhead?
• 19:37
  Like is it A and what I mean by that is like a fixed or three
• 19:40
  blade A4 blade, A2 blade like. I honestly I like mechanicals
• 19:45
  period. Like I think there's mechanical
• 19:47
  advantage to them in general. I don't know if there's there's
• 19:50
  very few animals that walk the earth that I wouldn't shoot a
• 19:53
  mechanical at. It's how big of the mechanical
• 19:55
  would be would be based off of that.
• 19:57
  So if I'm shooting like an elk or larger animal, I wouldn't use
• 19:59
  a mechanical with more than an inch and a half cut.
• 20:01
  And I know that's probably a bit of a a little bit of thing.
• 20:05
  Well, Brandon up in Sir. It's been a pleasure.
• 20:07
  Thank you. Absolutely.
• 20:09
  Thank you, Sir. Oh, my goodness.
• 20:13
  This guy's coming in crazy right now.
• 20:16
  Dude, does someone want to go get Ty in the on deck circle?
• 20:20
  He's asleep. Is he sleeping?
• 20:22
  Oh, my God, that's probably the best guy to have last.
• 20:27
  All right. Well, Sir.
• 20:31
  Team tagged out. Sir tagged out.
• 20:34
  Let me do a tiny little. I don't do a small, you know, I
• 20:36
  don't do hard liquor, but I'll do one tiny pull for.
• 20:38
  That, I mean, I'm being a little bit dramatic with what I'm doing
• 20:41
  right now. We got Weller, which is a very.
• 20:44
  OK, that would I say that was a bitch sip.
• 20:46
  That was the biggest bitch sip ever, but we're keeping it right
• 20:49
  there. All right, so.
• 20:51
  Did you hear the? Is that for me, Poppy?
• 20:54
  Do you want one? I don't know.
• 20:55
  You tell me, do I won't. Go.
• 20:57
  These are sweet. So they're kind of nice.
• 20:58
  OK all. Right.
• 20:59
  Do you have a lighter right here?
• 21:00
  I do All right, so you, I want to I want to pick up where he
• 21:03
  left off. I'm just talking style like he
• 21:07
  said, he likes a mechanical of sorts.
• 21:09
  I want to take it a step further.
• 21:10
  Like do you like a multiple blade expandable A2 blade, A2
• 21:15
  blade with a leading edge like or is that even your favorite?
• 21:18
  Maybe you like iron wheels? Like what do you like?
• 21:22
  No. And I'm not saying this because
• 21:25
  you have a deal with beast, but I think the balance that beast
• 21:29
  achieves because it's a it's a mechanical that I wish was a
• 21:34
  three blade. But when you're making
• 21:36
  sacrifices, I think that the increase in penetration that you
• 21:39
  get, if it's hitting hard stuff, being able to collapse back down
• 21:42
  and then expand back out, as long as it functions properly, I
• 21:45
  think is like probably the best overall broadhead in existence
• 21:49
  right now. As long as you get one that's
• 21:52
  solid and rocking and rolling. So your favorite type though you
• 21:55
  just said alluding to would be a three blade 3.
• 21:59
  Blade that would fold down. Got it.
• 22:00
  That was probably A2 inch total cut.
• 22:04
  Yeah. But the blades are truly
• 22:07
  balanced. Yeah.
• 22:07
  So that if you're hitting like you could shoot it at an elk
• 22:10
  because you're going to be able to collapse a blade and, and
• 22:13
  continue going forward. Yeah.
• 22:14
  I don't like, like, no offense to, you know, some of the other
• 22:18
  brands where they're like, hey, our blades will move out of the
• 22:21
  way and you're like, no, they're not going to like, if if it's
• 22:24
  counterbalancing something else, it's going 200 miles an hour.
• 22:26
  It's a car crash that's smashing into the side of a, you know, of
• 22:31
  bones and meat and all that stuff.
• 22:33
  So it doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me that like anything
• 22:35
  other than them just going completely back because you're
• 22:38
  you're playing into the physics of something going going this
• 22:43
  way. If it can collapse dead back,
• 22:45
  not left and right and doing all that stuff just come straight
• 22:47
  back and then come back out. I think that's best case
• 22:50
  scenario. But I do wish it was 3 blade.
• 22:51
  OK, Hey, can we, can I, can I, can I ask you a question?
• 22:56
  Of course. So.
• 22:57
  You and I, yeah, we have. We did wonderful executions on
• 23:02
  filling our tags, and I want to hear what we did differently
• 23:06
  than some of the other guys that are schmoes that have not filled
• 23:09
  up that jet. So how do you properly peckery
• 23:11
  hunt so that everybody who's sitting behind cameras can
• 23:13
  listen? Well, I'll tell you the truth, I
• 23:16
  think that this trip just because the energy of hunting
• 23:19
  with a group of guys, everyone in my opinion goes way too fast.
• 23:23
  And like if the speed I went, I was actually going fast because.
• 23:33
  If you don't want it, I want the rest of it so I don't waste it.
• 23:36
  Like in my dream scenario, if like, let's say I was out here
• 23:40
  hunting a peccary by myself, my stalks would have taken three
• 23:42
  times as long. OK, Does that make sense?
• 23:45
  Yeah. So OK, but where are you
• 23:46
  starting to slow down? The whole way, because my thing
• 23:49
  is I always say this when you're stalking a deer, a javelina, a
• 23:52
  pig, whatever animal you're spot stalking elk, they are generally
• 23:57
  not. They're not just going to dip
• 23:59
  out most of the time they're either going to leave because
• 24:01
  you spooked them or you've gotten close enough and shoot
• 24:04
  them and then they spook. So I think a lot of folks,
• 24:07
  especially in spot and stock style hunting, they go, oh, I
• 24:10
  need to get over there right now or they're going to be gone.
• 24:12
  And that happens maybe 5 out of 100 times.
• 24:15
  And if so, you just keep it moving.
• 24:17
  You know, so for me to answer the question it would be just
• 24:22
  slower is definitely better. The other thing that's been
• 24:25
  interesting about about these in particular is you'll have random
• 24:29
  ones that pop up because let's say you're 200 yards away, there
• 24:33
  can be a group that you don't see at 70 that's over in the
• 24:36
  thick stuff that then moves out. 100%.
• 24:38
  So that makes that makes a lot of sense to me.
• 24:41
  We. Always call it too.
• 24:42
  My dad always taught me this as a kid because I grew up hunting
• 24:44
  javelina and I still do now. But he always taught me this
• 24:49
  phrase of always keep your head on a swivel when you're within
• 24:52
  like 200 yards of the group. Because just because you blast
• 24:56
  three over there, but there could be like 5 or 6 of them in
• 24:59
  a pucker Bush right here. And if your heads not on a
• 25:02
  swivel, you're going to get that.
• 25:04
  And then before you know what, the whole group's gone.
• 25:07
  So, and it's all because you just weren't doing scanning.
• 25:11
  That makes sense. And it does make sense that you
• 25:13
  could almost any animal spot in stocking that that's kind of the
• 25:16
  way that you would want to go so you don't feel like you're
• 25:18
  wasting time by going slow. Not at all.
• 25:21
  Okay. No, I feel like that the net
• 25:22
  result is that you actually kill more animals by doing that.
• 25:25
  Not even. Not even it's not a debate like
• 25:28
  100%. I have stocked individual deer
• 25:32
  for like 8 / 8 hours, one especially.
• 25:35
  Like a mule. Right.
• 25:35
  Yeah, I've spent at least 8 hours on a mule deer stock
• 25:38
  before. Yeah.
• 25:40
  And the deer never moved. It was bedded the whole time.
• 25:42
  But I had to take the time to wait for the wind to wait for
• 25:45
  certain stuff to develop. And then when I'm actually
• 25:47
  moving, when I say slow, I'm probably covering 100 yards in
• 25:52
  like an hour. Would you do that on peccaries
• 25:55
  or would you go faster? I would because I don't see a
• 25:56
  rush. OK, you know what I mean?
• 25:58
  And like, there's there's no reason for me to rush.
• 26:02
  OK. And then shot placement on one
• 26:05
  right now, are you taking like a quartering 2 shot on one?
• 26:08
  I'd rather hit them perfectly broadside or slightly quartered
• 26:11
  away. But to me, the best spot to hit
• 26:14
  them is like basically just like if you take the elbow and just
• 26:18
  go about up, up to and left one or two inch, I think that's like
• 26:23
  the perfect spot. So.
• 26:24
  Very low, the left you're going, you're going straight up like
• 26:28
  and then to the left. No, right.
• 26:30
  I would go right like one or two and up one or two.
• 26:32
  So based on the the I looked at a picture of the javelina
• 26:36
  vitals. You're that's a hard shot if
• 26:37
  that's where exactly, But then if he's ducking, you're into
• 26:41
  lungs. Yeah.
• 26:42
  So I would hope, but then I. Think what we've seen on this
• 26:44
  trip is traditionally the misses have been back.
• 26:47
  Yes, because they skitter. And turn to.
• 26:49
  Freaking duck and then they push out like.
• 26:51
  Yeah, their, their, their rear goes down and then they move
• 26:54
  forward and they pull ass. They're fast, dude.
• 26:56
  Dude this is like so my sons 2 1/2 whatever two my wifes can.
• 27:00
  If I call him 2 1/2, my wife would get angry.
• 27:04
  I want to bring him Javelina hunting because it's so fun.
• 27:07
  It's so fun. You get to go.
• 27:08
  You get to learn all these different ways to do stocks.
• 27:11
  Like you get so much action. And then the consequences of,
• 27:14
  you know, like consequences of an A total air ball are just
• 27:17
  sick. There's another group up there,
• 27:18
  another 200 yards. Just keep going.
• 27:20
  I, I I've had so much fun, dude, so much fun.
• 27:23
  We always have called javelina like the bow hunters dream, you
• 27:26
  know, and and hunting them like this, a little bit different
• 27:28
  than like, you know, out in the mountains or something, But like
• 27:31
  either, either way, the experience you gain as a bow
• 27:34
  hunter hunting them, bro, you can get it's it's hard to it's
• 27:39
  hard to replace with anything else, because if you take
• 27:42
  someone who's never spot in stock bow hunt and you go say,
• 27:44
  take them to the hills of New Mexico and glass up a Coos deer
• 27:47
  and say, hey, go stock them, bro.
• 27:49
  They're not even going to get in the same stratosphere of the
• 27:52
  deer. But if you've done it with 10
• 27:54
  Javelina spot in stock at least now, maybe you'll like.
• 27:57
  Have. A tiny shot.
• 28:00
  You know what I mean. Tiny.
• 28:00
  Shot I don't think you go from Havoline to the coup.
• 28:03
  No, but like you, you know what I mean by the example.
• 28:05
  It's just like a lot of good practice on the reps.
• 28:08
  Yeah, and that's what I'll say about South Africa is when I
• 28:12
  went over there, dude, you're getting like 3 or 4 stalks a
• 28:18
  day. So dude if you want to just go
• 28:20
  get a crash course and how to get proficient at spot and stock
• 28:24
  hunting bro you can't beat it the other.
• 28:26
  Cool thing about doing something like Africa is you can go in the
• 28:29
  morning, let's say spot and stock a bunch of stuff and then
• 28:33
  they'll stick you on water and in a blind.
• 28:36
  So like if you're not successful but you learned a bunch of
• 28:39
  stuff, you're probably still going to get action and get
• 28:40
  animals 100%. Kind of the traditional, more
• 28:43
  like whitetail, you know, whitetail way in a blind.
• 28:45
  Just like in Mexico, you knew I wanted to bring my glass and
• 28:48
  gear and just spot and stock. But when the outfitter tells you
• 28:50
  like, oh, it's impossible. It's like, I know it's possible,
• 28:53
  but at the same time it's like I want to respect them.
• 28:55
  And then year 2, they said if you come back, you can do it
• 28:58
  however you want, but you have to like they got, they got to
• 29:02
  know you first because like, they don't want someone just
• 29:04
  spooking a deer from 300 yards. Like, you know, I get, I get
• 29:07
  both sides from an Outfitters perspective.
• 29:10
  This country here is thicker, I feel like, than what we were
• 29:13
  hunting in Sonora. Like yeah, do you not think?
• 29:16
  I think it's pretty comparable depending where, maybe slightly
• 29:19
  thicker. I just feel like everywhere we
• 29:21
  get into like right when you get off the road, like you're
• 29:23
  literally just crawling on your hands and knees through
• 29:25
  everything. Try to go through these little
• 29:26
  rat holes chasing these. Little rat holes.
• 29:28
  Yeah, that's like, that's such a good way to put it, dude.
• 29:31
  They love to live in mine shafts and culverts like they live in
• 29:34
  nasty pipes, tubes, tubes. But hey pal, we got 37 seconds
• 29:40
  left are. You going to smoke that or
• 29:42
  you're going to just. I've been smoking it, Boo.
• 29:44
  OK. All right.
• 29:46
  Hey, thanks. I'm holding it.
• 29:47
  Cool. Thanks.
• 29:47
  For having me on the boat is Happy podcast.
• 29:48
  Thank you. I felt like I was on your
• 29:50
  podcast. It kind of turned into an oppo
• 29:52
  thing, but I still liked it. All right, we got the last, the
• 29:57
  last guy. Unless I can get EJ to come on.
• 30:01
  You know you don't want. That no, actually he's not Mr.
• 30:06
  Thai. Might as well go from a NAB.
• 30:07
  How we doing, bro? Feel rejuvenated.
• 30:10
  Yeah. 1. So our first hunt together ever.
• 30:16
  We've shot what? One event together?
• 30:19
  Boat disciples challenge. I think that's it, right?
• 30:21
  Unless I'm forgetting something. No.
• 30:22
  And Utah tack. I think we met briefly.
• 30:25
  How has it been to share Hunt Camp and just kind of get the
• 30:28
  vibe and. It's been fun.
• 30:30
  We've been going from the RIP. Yeah.
• 30:32
  So just the guys hanging out. Guys, we we put a little stock
• 30:36
  on day one together. Yeah, got the job done.
• 30:40
  But yeah, we've just been kicking it.
• 30:43
  Yeah. It's like the guys being guys
• 30:46
  shooting bows, hanging out, telling stories, having a good
• 30:50
  time. Dude, that's freaking perfect.
• 30:53
  Tell me about So you had a mule deer tag this year and one of
• 30:56
  the most sought after units in the United States.
• 31:01
  You don't have to say what unit we don't want to spot burn, but
• 31:03
  like a very, very top shelf unit.
• 31:05
  And you also had Travis, who filmed my stuff in South Africa
• 31:10
  come over and film you. What was that experience like to
• 31:13
  hunt such elite country and then also to meet Travis and have him
• 31:17
  for your shoulder? It was pretty cool.
• 31:20
  I mean, I don't really think it's spot burning, but it was
• 31:22
  the Poncegon. Yeah.
• 31:23
  Like it? Yeah.
• 31:23
  You can't draw it anyway. Yeah, you have to draw it or pay
• 31:25
  a ton of money for it. And I somehow drew it.
• 31:30
  Hunting that area was insane. Like it was there was just deer
• 31:34
  everywhere. There was one day where we saw
• 31:35
  like 145 or something mule deer and an evening.
• 31:39
  Not even just the whole day, just like an evening.
• 31:41
  Wow. So it was, it was really cool
• 31:44
  and special to get to hunt that. But what was even more cool was
• 31:47
  getting to meet up with Travis. So Travis flew in from South
• 31:50
  Africa. Yeah.
• 31:52
  Originally how I got linked with Travis was James was posting
• 31:55
  footage in South Africa. And I was like, this stuff just
• 31:58
  looks next level. Yeah.
• 32:00
  And so I found Travis's Instagram and I messaged him and
• 32:03
  he ended up coming. But Travis is insane to hang out
• 32:07
  with, insane behind the camera. Like he's just a good dude.
• 32:10
  Great hunter, too. Yeah, yeah, but dude, I'm sorry,
• 32:15
  dude, Scotty's just trying to. Smoke a cigar behind camera and
• 32:19
  he's choking. I wish you had our POV.
• 32:24
  That was pretty. Funny, that was classic.
• 32:26
  Oh no. God Dang, Martha.
• 32:32
  Like that, everybody forgot what's.
• 32:34
  Got jeez, a la pique. But yeah, what was it like to.
• 32:38
  I mean, you shot a really big buck too.
• 32:40
  Yeah. And that was cool.
• 32:42
  You made you made a really good shot and can't.
• 32:45
  I can't wait to see the full video whenever it's done.
• 32:47
  But I mean, I'm that was probably the biggest buck you've
• 32:50
  ever shot, right? Yeah.
• 32:51
  What was what was that like? Just to put down a real booner
• 32:53
  like that. It was cool that, like, had this
• 32:58
  crazy roller coaster. So opening morning, I shot the
• 33:01
  giant, like, target buck that I was after, and he was probably
• 33:04
  the coolest deer on the entire hunt.
• 33:06
  And you're talking about the entire hunt.
• 33:07
  This is like a prestigious unit. Oh, yeah.
• 33:10
  People are paying 100 grand for A tag.
• 33:12
  Yep. Again, it's all subjective,
• 33:14
  right? Some people like big typicals
• 33:16
  and anything that's not a big typical is not worthy to them.
• 33:20
  Yeah, this is a freaky cactus buck.
• 33:22
  And I for me, he was the deer I wanted.
• 33:24
  And I shot him high in no man's land, misranged him.
• 33:29
  Just nothing. There's nothing.
• 33:32
  That deer was lit. He's fine.
• 33:33
  Yeah. He's knocking him.
• 33:34
  Yeah. Didn't you find him like a week
• 33:36
  later? Someone shot him like a week and
• 33:38
  a half later and then he got killed on the rifle hunt.
• 33:43
  So yeah. But all that to say, I got on
• 33:47
  the deer I wanted opening morning, hit him, and then he
• 33:52
  ended up running like 2 1/2 miles from where we were on him
• 33:55
  and where he was showing and we never got back.
• 33:59
  We didn't get back on him in six days of hunting.
• 34:02
  And so we're like, he's alive. Like we had enough people
• 34:07
  looking at the footage to know that the deer lived.
• 34:10
  And so we just kept hunting and day six or seven rolled around
• 34:15
  and I had opportunities that other deer as well.
• 34:18
  By the way, like that hunt taught me a lot because like
• 34:21
  when you get on a big deer like that, nothing will prepare you
• 34:24
  for what a big deer makes you feel like getting on a big deer.
• 34:28
  So getting shaky and like brushing and like being freaked
• 34:32
  out, it's normal. But like the more deer you get
• 34:35
  on of that caliber, obviously it tames down that.
• 34:39
  Buck fever, at least that rushing just gives you more like
• 34:42
  more more reps where like your heart rate and stuff.
• 34:44
  I'm you're still through the roof, but you're like, you know
• 34:46
  what, I've been here before. Let me just handle it and and
• 34:50
  what you're like, dude, I can't even imagine because like had
• 34:53
  you ever even haunted a deer like close to these caliber
• 34:56
  like? No, dude, I mean like the
• 34:57
  biggest deer I killed in my entire life was the first deer I
• 35:01
  ever shot, which was when I was nine years old.
• 35:03
  And it was like a like a 145 like not like.
• 35:08
  White tailor mule Milder. Yeah, in New Mexico.
• 35:10
  Yeah, as a public mule, my first deer ever was my biggest.
• 35:14
  That's dope. That was with the rifle.
• 35:15
  It wasn't with the bow, but but yeah, I I haven't killed like a
• 35:19
  ton of giant mule deer. I mean, it's where I live in
• 35:22
  drawing hunts, right, right. I mean, it makes they're,
• 35:25
  they're tough critters to. To hunt, I think they're the
• 35:27
  hardest I've I've said that out of what I have.
• 35:30
  Haunted spot in stock I think mule deer, a mature mule deer I
• 35:34
  think is the hardest on it. I would say I'm pretty spoiled
• 35:36
  though, being in southern Utah because there's just there big
• 35:39
  deer on every unit. Yeah, true.
• 35:41
  If you put the work in, you'll kill big mule deer first in that
• 35:44
  area. Yeah, Utah's great for hunting.
• 35:46
  I mean, I've actually only haunted it three times and never
• 35:49
  for deer, but it's definitely on my list to hunt it for deer.
• 35:53
  Dude, I can't wait again. Can't wait to see the footage.
• 35:55
  Do you have any leaks when that might drop so people can look
• 35:58
  forward to it? So I was going to edit it and
• 36:01
  then Travis messaged me like 2 nights ago and he's like, hey, I
• 36:04
  want to edit this video. I think I can make it into
• 36:05
  something cool. So we're just kind of like
• 36:08
  it'll, it'll be out before May. Yeah, for sure.
• 36:11
  Cool. I have a few other hunts that
• 36:12
  I'm dropping a little later just to change the timeline on when a
• 36:17
  hunt drops. You know, Oh yeah, I like
• 36:18
  tobacco kind of during. Tax season when everyone's
• 36:21
  shooting foam and thinking about getting ready for hunting, I
• 36:23
  want to have a little blend and mix in there so.
• 36:26
  Yeah, dude. But but yeah, in a good time.
• 36:29
  Do you think that shooting all the 3DS that you've shot the
• 36:32
  last couple of years, because you shoot, you know, local 3D,
• 36:35
  you shoot it at your house, you shot Bow Disciples Challenge,
• 36:37
  Total Archer Challenge, Bow Fest, you've shot a lot of 3D.
• 36:41
  Do you think that when you're actually hunting and animals out
• 36:44
  there, do you think that that helps?
• 36:49
  It does. I think it builds confidence,
• 36:52
  but I don't think anything helps like actually being on the
• 36:55
  animal. I totally it's not it's not even
• 36:58
  it's not even close. Like it's I think all of us
• 37:02
  would agree we could have we could set a foam javelina
• 37:05
  targeted 100 yards and all of us could shoot at it and we would
• 37:08
  probably hit it with our first arrow pretty decent again, in
• 37:10
  the core at least. And out here it's just a
• 37:13
  different ball game. There's so many different
• 37:16
  factors, animals moving wind, trying to be sneaky, trying to
• 37:21
  be slow and quiet. And so I think it helps you for
• 37:25
  sure as a as a shooter, but and in a hunting sense, nothing
• 37:29
  helps you like hunting because some of the some of the people
• 37:33
  that have killed the most things and the biggest things that that
• 37:37
  I know personally, they don't, they don't shoot their bow all
• 37:41
  the time. They're just killers.
• 37:43
  And so it's like it does help you need to shoot your bow as
• 37:47
  much as possible and it it helps so much.
• 37:50
  But I think there's something super valuable about having
• 37:53
  something that's alive. But I'll say this, someone that
• 37:56
  shoots more 3D is probably going to be more prepared whenever the
• 38:00
  hunt comes around. What what's your take?
• 38:03
  You're the question, answer or the asker, but.
• 38:05
  Yeah. I mean, I, I think that I think
• 38:07
  that shooting your bow more in any capacity, whether that be
• 38:11
  indoor outdoor shooting for fun, shooting our beer pong game like
• 38:15
  any, any shooting I think is going to make you better when
• 38:18
  the moment comes. But I think you hit the nail on
• 38:21
  the head that getting more hunts and more high intensity reps in
• 38:27
  the field, that's actually training like your, your nervous
• 38:31
  system, your heart and like your mind that you cannot do that
• 38:36
  shooting. That is totally different.
• 38:37
  So you need to shoot a lot, but you also have to be out hunting
• 38:40
  a lot of and getting your boots on the ground, you know, but I,
• 38:44
  I want to ask you, we have one minute left.
• 38:46
  So you don't got to, you don't got to finish your answer in one
• 38:50
  minute. But I, I am curious, since
• 38:54
  you've been absolutely crushing the content, you've been killing
• 38:57
  it on so many different platforms.
• 39:00
  And I think a lot of people respect your stuff, including
• 39:03
  myself. Where do you see like Ty Jordan
• 39:07
  and and kind of your brand and where you're going to be at in
• 39:09
  like 5 years? What's like a five year plan
• 39:12
  for? Yeah.
• 39:12
  I mean five year plan. I want to create some of the
• 39:17
  highest quality shooting videos obviously, but also some of the
• 39:22
  highest quality hunting videos. Keep collaborating with cool
• 39:25
  people, stay true to me, inspire the next generation of Archers.
• 39:29
  I think that's a big one. I think there's a hole in the
• 39:33
  archery industry right now, but there's not a lot of younger
• 39:37
  people that the kids can relate to in a sense.
• 39:41
  I again, I do think that someone young can relate to someone
• 39:44
  who's very experienced and, and older in the industry, you'll
• 39:48
  always have like the legends and stuff, but in every industry,
• 39:52
  you need new people to come in and to be a figure.
• 39:57
  And so for everyone. I want my content content to be
• 40:00
  consumed by everyone obviously. But my biggest thing is to
• 40:03
  inspire the kid that I was whenever I was 8 years old.
• 40:07
  So inspire kids like me to want to go shoot and hang out and
• 40:11
  know that it's fun and. Not I, I want to make the sport
• 40:15
  seem not as intimidating as it is from the outside because I
• 40:19
  feel like there's so much you need to know for in order to be
• 40:24
  proficient with, with working on your bow or even putting
• 40:28
  together an arrow setup and stuff like that.
• 40:31
  If you're someone who's never shot and you start hearing all
• 40:33
  this stuff, it's very scary and it's very intimidating.
• 40:36
  And so I kind of want to be the person that makes it OK to be
• 40:41
  and experience in that area and like, hey, come along and learn
• 40:46
  with me because I don't know everything about hunting or
• 40:49
  archery. But I would at least like to
• 40:52
  lean on some of the peers that I know who have a bigger following
• 40:55
  that actually have worked in bow shops and know about bows and
• 40:59
  stuff and ask them questions about humbly and say, I don't
• 41:04
  know this, can you teach it to me?
• 41:05
  And so being that kind of Ave. For younger people and people in
• 41:08
  the archery industry and also just creating really high
• 41:12
  quality stuff. Well, you're definitely doing
• 41:14
  that. And yeah, I mean, I agree so
• 41:18
  much with bringing more young people in and bringing down the
• 41:20
  barrier and, and and making it seem more approachable to join.
• 41:24
  That's the whole reason I'm doing the target stuff is the
• 41:27
  same exact reason you said. It's a little bit different, but
• 41:29
  I think target archery could really use an influx of people
• 41:33
  that realize, hey, you know what, this isn't scary.
• 41:35
  I can go do this for fun and shoot my bow more.
• 41:38
  And that's what I'm hoping to do with our, our competition stuff
• 41:42
  and our indoor stuff. And I think that your content of
• 41:46
  just shooting in the backyard and showing great arrow flight,
• 41:50
  good shots, bad shots, that's awesome.
• 41:54
  And I, I love that type of stuff.
• 41:56
  So keep doing what you're doing. You're crushing it.
• 41:58
  And yeah, like and subscribe to the Bow Disciples podcast, Five
• 42:04
  stars on Apple and Spotify. Shout out to Brandon, Josh,
• 42:08
  Scotty and Ty. It's been a pleasure bro thing.
• 42:12
  Yep, subscribed all their channels.
• 42:13
  By the way, they'll be in the bio, so go check them out.
• 42:17
  Let's go. All right, let's do it.
• 42:18
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• 42:20
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