Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / The Kitchen 48 Laws of Power Part 4.
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- 0:00Hello chefs. You're listening to chefs.
- 0:01PS a podcast. I'm your host Andhra natera.
- 0:04On today's episode, this is part 4 of the kitchen 48 Laws of
- 0:07Power. Stay tuned.
- 0:20So, for those of you asking, eventually, we'll get through
- 0:22this 48 Laws of Power series, but I wanted to see it all the
- 0:26way through to completion. I'm excited about it.
- 0:28A lot of people have really liked this episode because we're
- 0:31talking about all the little different, strategic things that
- 0:34go on in a kitchen and how to think about them and how to
- 0:37approach them differently. But before we get into all that,
- 0:42let me give you an update. This past week, I was supposed
- 0:48to be doing my first ever guest Centric chefs.
- 0:50PS a podcast and was going to do it at an event in Austin, Texas
- 0:55called live fire. Unfortunately that event had to
- 0:59cancel due to weather. It was storming bad and
- 1:02unfortunately, we had to cancel the event and I did have a
- 1:06really great line up of chefs. I think I had about a dozen
- 1:09chefs that we're going to be on the podcast.
- 1:11Big names from All Over Texas. California there was A lot of
- 1:15really exciting conversations that we're going to happen but
- 1:18unfortunately it's not going to happen.
- 1:20So I put it in my newsletter. If you receive my newsletter and
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- 1:33about, you know, leadership a chef's, PSA Chef mindset,
- 1:37something curious that I may be working on or have stumbled
- 1:40across and then link to this podcast.
- 1:42So anyway, if you don't get the newsletter you Good.
- 1:44Just in case my account gets banned.
- 1:46That was really one of the big reasons why I wanted to start
- 1:50the chef's pass a newsletter, is because I thought my account was
- 1:53going to get banned. It got banned once on Instagram,
- 1:55and then something funny was happening.
- 1:57Where I had to take the happy chef hat down anyway, long story
- 2:01short, go sign up for the newsletter.
- 2:03I apologize that there won't be the guest Centric chefs.
- 2:06PSA episode, I don't see me moving into that immediately, if
- 2:11I get a studio, which is something I am working on, but
- 2:15we're not there yet, eventually we'll have guest, but I'm not
- 2:18sure if a guest Centric podcast will be titled chefs, PSA.
- 2:21It might be titled. You know, chefs, bullshitting,
- 2:25or something like that. Anyway, the other update is the
- 2:29other to audiobooks line, cook survival manual.
- 2:32It's out. The audio book is available.
- 2:33You could go get it on Audible or anywhere you listen to audio
- 2:36books. The second book Kitchen Art of
- 2:39War is also completed. Same narrator on both.
- 2:43The only difference is the kitchen Art of War is going to
- 2:45have a PDF attachment. So you can see the illustrations
- 2:50which will include the PDF book. The problem is it does take a
- 2:54little bit longer to create that so it's done.
- 2:58I'm just waiting on Audible to approve it.
- 3:00I assume maybe even by the time you're listening to this
- 3:03podcast, it should be done but just assume it's going to be out
- 3:05any day now inaudible. Doubles hands.
- 3:08So anyway that's that's the update.
- 3:12Let's get into 48 Laws of Power and last week we left off at law
- 3:18number 33. So let's begin today, with law,
- 3:20number 34, and lot number 34 be royal in your own fashion act
- 3:26like a king to be treated by one.
- 3:29I would interpret this as the old expression act as if or
- 3:35dress like the job that you want.
- 3:38Lookin the part acting the part makes a huge difference and I
- 3:40Mentor a lot of chefs and I recently had a conversation with
- 3:45someone that I'm entering and they are in a cook position if
- 3:49they want to move into a sous chef position.
- 3:51And I mentioned to them I said sometimes they feel like an
- 3:54outsider from the other chefs and Sous chefs.
- 3:57And I said there's there's something that goes a long way
- 4:00in the kitchen that you're in of looking the part and acting the
- 4:04part of the role that you want to achieve.
- 4:06And that is like All the chef's. I'm just making this up.
- 4:09For example, of all the chef's. Were you work?
- 4:11You know, use like soigne Japanese knives and cool aprons
- 4:16and you don't as strange as that may sound.
- 4:19That sometimes makes people think that you're not in the
- 4:21click. So sometimes looking like the
- 4:23part gets you the part as weird as that sounds.
- 4:25And I'm not saying I agree with it but it is a fact it is a fact
- 4:29that when you wear the clothes and you speak the certain
- 4:32language and I'll give you another example.
- 4:34If all the chef's that you're working around our Are going
- 4:38home and watching, you know, a Gordon Ramsay, shown the next
- 4:41day, they come to work and they're like, did you see
- 4:43honestly I don't know what Gordon Ramsay has Hell's
- 4:45Kitchen. Did you watch the latest episode
- 4:48of Hell's Kitchen? And everyone's talking about it.
- 4:49If you're not in that conversation then you're not in
- 4:51the conversation. But if you're able to present
- 4:55yourself as a part of the group, then there's a greater
- 5:01likelihood that you will become a part of the group.
- 5:03Now when we're talking about being a chef acting like a king
- 5:06to be treated like one I could also interpret this is when you
- 5:10act like a professional and I've seen this in my career when
- 5:13you're very professional with other people, they will be
- 5:15professional back with you. Like I've seen this with my
- 5:18bosses that you know they come into the kitchen before and you
- 5:21know they're they're all buttoned up there their whites
- 5:24or just pressed and they look sharp and they're respectful.
- 5:26It's like When they come in, even though they've never done
- 5:29anything to make people, scared of them, people will say they're
- 5:32scared of them, right? It's like wow there it's just
- 5:35because of the way that they carry themselves it's about
- 5:37having that right posture and we could probably get into a body
- 5:40language which is something that I think is very important, how
- 5:45you carry yourself, do you stand with your arms crossed in front
- 5:48of you? Or do you stand with your arms
- 5:49on your side? Or do you stand with your arms
- 5:50behind your back? Do you stand with your chin?
- 5:53Looking straight up? Do you make eye contact?
- 5:55You give a good handshake when you greet.
- 5:57People do you say their name? Do you ask them about
- 6:00themselves? These are things that I think
- 6:04exhibit, confidence in someone and it's something that you
- 6:07could learn. So part of it is look the part
- 6:09to get the part, you wouldn't show up to a job interview for
- 6:13an executive position, wearing shorts and flip-flops and you
- 6:18wouldn't show up for a cooking position if you had to cook not
- 6:22ready to cook. So, you got to look like the
- 6:24part that you want. So anyway, Lot number 35 Master,
- 6:27the art of timing, there's going to be a time when you have the
- 6:31opportunity to shine and I think it's very important that you
- 6:34capitalize on this. I've seen a lot of chefs have so
- 6:37much momentum behind them but they get stuck in there afraid
- 6:39to make the next leap. I'll give you an example.
- 6:41Personally from my story is that I had a period of time when I
- 6:45was on top of the world and let's call this from the years
- 6:482011 to 2014. I was on top of the world.
- 6:52I was leading the charge in the city that I was in.
- 6:56Along with a few other chefs but I was definitely In Contention
- 6:59after a little setback. I kind of got stuck and things
- 7:04just kind of went South and instead of me capitalizing on
- 7:06the momentum that I had I was just reluctant to do more
- 7:11because I was so focused on the food that I was doing and it
- 7:14prevented me from really shining at the time, I mean the offers
- 7:18were coming in to be on TV etc, etc.
- 7:20And I would say no because I needed to be in the kitchen.
- 7:22And then as time passed on, I went through a slump after ER
- 7:26words and it's like people have forgotten about me and just like
- 7:28that when you're hot you're hot and I talked about this in some
- 7:31of my other books is that when your opportunity comes and it is
- 7:34your time to shine as difficult as it may be, you have to
- 7:38embrace it because they will move onto.
- 7:41I say they, I just mean the industry and your peers in the
- 7:43people that are watching. They will move on to the next
- 7:45shiny new object. So if it's your time and you
- 7:48have momentum double down, keep going forward take on more work
- 7:52you could get help but say yes. Don't dismiss opportunities.
- 7:57When they come your way, if you think that you'll have more
- 7:59momentum later on when you're when you're snowball in that
- 8:02momentum. Just just let it let it ride.
- 8:04Let it right and keep going. So anyway, that's my advice
- 8:06because I've seen it happen too. Many chefs is, they have so much
- 8:09momentum and they don't capitalize on the momentum that
- 8:12they have. And then before, you know it,
- 8:14you don't even know their name anymore because they become, you
- 8:17know, it's a forgotten but they do become forgotten in this
- 8:19industry that moves on so quickly.
- 8:21So when it's your time, Master it and capitalize on it,
- 8:25Advantage, law. Number 36, disdain the things.
- 8:28You cannot have ignoring them is the best revenge.
- 8:31I'll give you an example. If a competitor Chef receives an
- 8:34award, don't get so focused on what other people are achieving
- 8:38and why not me, you know, someone else gets promoted and
- 8:41you're thinking why did they get promoted?
- 8:42Why didn't I get promoted? You waste energy on and you give
- 8:47your energy to people and others by focusing too much on what
- 8:51they have versus what you desire?
- 8:54You Think that you're entitled to that.
- 8:56But everyone is on a journey that you may see, or may not,
- 8:59and it's their time. And sometimes it's just not your
- 9:02time. What you need to do is you need
- 9:04to sit back, focus on your goals.
- 9:06Create a plan, laser-like, focus on improving yourself and your
- 9:11craft and your time will come, turn down the noise that's out
- 9:15there because everything's going to distract you from social
- 9:18media to jealousy, to comparing yourself to other people.
- 9:23It's the worst thing that you could do.
- 9:25The best thing that you could do is focus on yourself.
- 9:28And how do you improve what you're doing?
- 9:30And I promise you if you stop focusing on what everyone else
- 9:34is doing and you focus on how you can be the best version of
- 9:39yourself, I promise you, those opportunities that you think,
- 9:43keep passing you by will come law.
- 9:46Number 37. Create compelling, spectacles.
- 9:49Now, I'll use a recent example, in real life.
- 9:52Something that Did. So what I on social media?
- 9:56I hope everyone understands that like chefs, PSA is my job.
- 9:59That includes this podcast, social media writing books, all
- 10:03of that is all tied up into a full-time job.
- 10:06For me, this is how I make a living.
- 10:08Now, in order to gain attention, occasionally, you have to do
- 10:13things that will put eyeballs on what it is that you're doing,
- 10:16and you see this tactic with a lot of influential, people
- 10:20celebrities or whatever. The case may be, they create a
- 10:22spectacle All and everyone starts looking and talking about
- 10:25it. And then you discover all the
- 10:26other things that you may enjoy about that person.
- 10:29So something that I did recently and honestly it pissed off.
- 10:32A lot of people in America got me a lot of nasty comments but I
- 10:36did a real, I don't know, a couple months back and I talked
- 10:39about Chef stealing dishes and it pissed everyone off.
- 10:42And I remember when I was making the real, so I'm sharing this
- 10:45with you all. Now, I remember when I was
- 10:47making the real, I wanted to talk about You're getting
- 10:50inspired by chefs this that the other.
- 10:52But I said, you know what, I'm going to say Chef stealing
- 10:53dishes and I Knew by saying that it was going to be provocative
- 10:57and it would probably upset because I was using the word
- 10:59steel and I knew it was mostly can upset people that.
- 11:03I hate say still dishes, but it was mostly going to upset people
- 11:06that get inspired by other people and read a lot of
- 11:08cookbooks and and and do this that and the other.
- 11:11But it was it was intentional that I did that.
- 11:14I was I did that with intention because I knew that by doing
- 11:18that the video would most likely Go viral and I was right.
- 11:21You know, I was, I was guessing I thought, you know, it probably
- 11:23will go viral, but I'm going to, I'm going to risk it.
- 11:26And it did, you know, I think that video right now has about a
- 11:28quarter of a million views. It's my most successful real,
- 11:32that I've done on social media. And it was all because I started
- 11:37out by saying every Chef that, you know, is stealing dishes.
- 11:41And if they, if they tell you that, they don't steal dishes,
- 11:44there are liars. So, anyway, then I proceeded to
- 11:47talk about when it was something like that.
- 11:48I'm paraphrasing. But You know, I started out
- 11:50really aggressive but the reason I did that, as I was trying to
- 11:53create a spectacle because I was trying to get people to see what
- 11:57else I'm doing. I want people to listen to the
- 11:58podcast. I want you to get the books.
- 12:00I am trying to help people, but sometimes I have to poke a
- 12:02little bit at people and be a little bit provocative just to
- 12:05get the conversation. Going to do could see some of
- 12:08the other things that are going on.
- 12:09So I hate to say that was a calculated move but if you've
- 12:14been listening to the podcast, you understand that everything I
- 12:17do is is calculated and there's a chess move behind everything.
- 12:20I think the time has passed on that so I can share that story.
- 12:23When you create a spectacle, it brings attention.
- 12:25So you could do that on social media, you could say things on
- 12:28social media, and I'd be careful with this because I think if
- 12:31you've been following chefs PSA for a while, I think you've
- 12:33noticed that my tone has changed because when I first started
- 12:35out, I was going to be a little bit more aggressive and
- 12:38shocking. But I also noticed like it, my
- 12:41point was I actually want to help people, right?
- 12:43I don't I'm not trying to piss people off, but I figured by
- 12:46pissing people off. We could begin the conversation
- 12:49and I realized that that wasn't Twerking.
- 12:50So, I would caution people like don't go out and start a fight
- 12:52just to get attention, but there's things that you could do
- 12:54to be a little bit provocative. You could do that with your
- 12:57food, you could do that on social media.
- 12:58I think I mentioned in one of the other episodes I would
- 13:01create the most expensive menu in the city.
- 13:05Because I knew that people would talk about is a little bit of a
- 13:08spectacle. I went to dinner with, you know,
- 13:11a very famous celebrity at one time and they have their own
- 13:14their own alcohol line. And I remember having a
- 13:18conversation with them that they had priced it at At the top of
- 13:20the market. And when I said, why did they
- 13:23make their their liquor so expensive?
- 13:27They said it was because when you go to a restaurant or you go
- 13:30to a bar or a club, no one ever says, Get me.
- 13:33The second most expensive bottle on the menu.
- 13:36You know, when people are doing the Wall Street while it Flex,
- 13:38they're flexing and they want attention on them.
- 13:40They don't ever say get me. The second most expensive thing
- 13:43they say, get me the most expensive thing.
- 13:46And so this person said that's why I position myself at the
- 13:48very top. I don't want to be second.
- 13:50Most expensive. I want to be the most expensive
- 13:52because that will increase sales.
- 13:54Now, the same principle applies in the restaurant when you have
- 13:57a flaming dessert or someone comes in, as chocolate ball on a
- 14:02stick, that's a piñata or whatever the case may be right
- 14:04there, the writing on the table, whatever.
- 14:07There's a Garrard on with cheese or Raclette or whatever the case
- 14:10may be. When people start doing that,
- 14:12what ends up happening? Is everyone else in the
- 14:14restaurant? Around and looks and says, what
- 14:16are they doing? I want one of those.
- 14:18So if they're carving the steak tables item, this is why Salt
- 14:21Bay is, you know, you might not like them, I'm not saying I like
- 14:24them, but I do recognize what he's doing is creating a
- 14:25spectacle to care attention now. Whatever you think about Salt
- 14:29Bay, no one knew who he was a couple of years ago, and now he
- 14:32has restaurants all over the world.
- 14:33So playing that character. Clearly made him famous and
- 14:38created many opportunities. I doubt he's that way in real
- 14:40life, honestly, I don't know. Maybe he is but you understand
- 14:43the idea of creating a Compelling spectacle to get
- 14:47attention to do what you're doing, this is why again, I'm
- 14:49beating a dead horse, but this wine, the old days restaurants
- 14:52would come around with a dessert tray and they paraded around
- 14:54throughout the restaurant. So everyone could see it.
- 14:56And they'd say, oh, which one would you like the chocolate
- 14:58cake this that and the other? So it was to increase sales.
- 15:01I used to have certain desserts and one of them was a souffle
- 15:05and it was time sensitive. But whenever we would deliver
- 15:07the souffle, we try and take it in front of as many guests as we
- 15:11could. So they could see it you know
- 15:12the path for the service staff would be like a try and get
- 15:15around. All these guests.
- 15:16And then we do tableside presentation with anglaise or
- 15:19ice cream, or whatever the case may be, and that was all to get
- 15:22attention. So people could say I want that
- 15:24too, right? Or shaved truffles at the table
- 15:26or whatever the case, maybe, that's what you need to do.
- 15:28Create some sort of compelling spectacle to get attention to
- 15:31what you're doing. Law number 38, think as you
- 15:34like, but behave like others now an example that comes to mind
- 15:38right away is don't tell people how you did it.
- 15:42The last job, you can think whatever you want.
- 15:44You could think your previous show.
- 15:45Better but don't go in and tell everyone how everything was
- 15:49better at the last job and how they taught you differently in
- 15:51culinary school. It rubs people, the wrong way,
- 15:55when you're in a new place as the expression goes, it ain't
- 15:57where you're from. It's where you at, and when
- 16:00you're in a new kitchen you need to behave.
- 16:02Like the way that they behave in that kitchen, someone messaged
- 16:05me the other day that they were going on a stage.
- 16:09And they were asking me for advice.
- 16:10And I said, one of the best things that you could do is pay
- 16:13attention to the way that others behaving.
- 16:15That kitchen because every new kitchen has a certain Cadence.
- 16:18And every do kitchen that you go into has certain things, little
- 16:22idiosyncrasies that are unique to that kitchen.
- 16:25So maybe they fold towels a certain way or maybe they don't
- 16:29slam doors on ice machines or lowboys, right, it'll get you
- 16:32kicked out of certain kitchens. If you slam a door, maybe, They
- 16:37cut the tape a certain way. Maybe they use scissors, maybe
- 16:40these tape cutter. Maybe there's a knife.
- 16:42Maybe they cut the tape on the stainless steel table and that's
- 16:45a an offense. That gets you thrown out of the
- 16:47kitchen? I don't know.
- 16:49But when you start paying attention to how everyone else
- 16:51Works, regardless of what you think, it's important that you
- 16:54behave like everyone else because if not, you're going to
- 16:57stand out and not in a good way. So that's one of the best things
- 17:01that you could do. When you go into new kitchen is
- 17:03don't talk about how you did it at the other place.
- 17:05Learn the Rhythm and Cadence of the place that you're at and
- 17:08then when you feel comfortable, I think there's a time and place
- 17:10you know, you can have those conversations when people ask
- 17:13you but it's different. When someone asks you how did
- 17:15you do it here versus going up to them and saying oh I don't
- 17:20like this. I think it's better if we do
- 17:21this. When it's like your first day on
- 17:22the job you're going to you're going to look like an asshole
- 17:24and I'm not saying that you shouldn't contribute your ideas
- 17:28but what I'm saying is Have a little self-awareness and
- 17:33culinary etiquette like you don't talk about the last place
- 17:36at the new place anyway. Law number 39 Stirrup Waters to
- 17:40catch fish. A good example of this.
- 17:42I'll give you two examples. I'll give you a nice one.
- 17:44I'll give you kind of a sneaky one.
- 17:46So a good example of this is when you have internal
- 17:48competitions where you work, when you have internal
- 17:50competitions, you're able to number one breeding, a
- 17:53competitive environment in your kitchen, is a good thing because
- 17:57everyone gets better when people are competitive with Each other,
- 18:00they do get better but it's important that you watch it
- 18:03closely because you don't want it to turn into environment
- 18:05where it becomes Cutthroat and people are sabotaging each other
- 18:08so, healthy competition is a good thing.
- 18:10So you want to create that environment where people could
- 18:12grow. So when you strip those Waters,
- 18:14you start to notice people get better, right?
- 18:17You encourage them to get better.
- 18:18You should always create an environment in the kitchen,
- 18:20where people are encouraged to improve and they are rewarded
- 18:26for improving. Now I'm going to share a sneaky
- 18:28example. Someone Ask me in my cigar
- 18:31Sunday, QA the other day, how do you deal with someone that
- 18:36thinks that they know at all and I didn't really give a good
- 18:39example, you know those those Instagram chats are.
- 18:43I think you're like at like 60 seconds to answer.
- 18:45So sometimes I try not to Ramble On and I recognize I ramble But
- 18:50one thing that you could do is, if you have this culinary
- 18:54competition is, you make it mandatory if you can and you put
- 18:58those people that you know, those those Kooks that
- 19:01know-it-all you put them in there and you kind of see like
- 19:03it's a humbling experience. I've done that many times where
- 19:06I've put people in a position where it's like, okay, if if
- 19:08you're, if you're a BMF, let's see what it's about.
- 19:11Get in there and cook and then you find out that they're not.
- 19:15You also see it in cooking interviews.
- 19:17I've seen this a lot in my career will people when you put
- 19:19them in a situation, That they don't know because they talk a
- 19:21big game but they can't back it up.
- 19:23You know, they call out sick, they don't show up.
- 19:25I've seen many chefs once you tell them that there's a cooking
- 19:28interview. They don't show up like they
- 19:29it's just no call, no show, right?
- 19:32Or they call off sick if they work there and you tell me, hey,
- 19:34there's there were tomorrow, we're doing a competition, they
- 19:36get mysteriously sick. And the thing is, is I think a
- 19:40lot of times they think they're fooling people but no one's
- 19:42fooled, like when you call off because, you know, you had to
- 19:46compete or you had a cooking interview and you didn't show
- 19:48up. And then you got this big
- 19:50excuse. Our, it's because my car, but
- 19:52like, no, we all know what happened now, maybe it's the one
- 19:54off chance that it did happen but I think that's more the
- 19:57exception to the rule law. Number, 40, despise the free
- 20:01lunch. I talked about this earlier in
- 20:05this series that I used to work with someone that would give me
- 20:08gifts, really beautiful gifts, but they weren't necessarily the
- 20:11best employee. And I knew why they were giving
- 20:13me gifts because they were trying to get away with things
- 20:16later on, it's the free lunch and you need to be aware when
- 20:20When people are extra, nice to you and want to give you gifts,
- 20:22there is no something for nothing in this world, I don't
- 20:25care what like no one is giving you anything out of the kindness
- 20:28of their heart and they might have good motivations, they
- 20:32might be being kind, but they might want to be kind to get
- 20:35something in return. So, be careful when you work
- 20:39with people and they want to give you this or they want to
- 20:41get on your good side and give you that like just have your
- 20:44guard up. No one is ever really given you
- 20:46anything. Usually right.
- 20:49Maybe unless It's like your parents or a family member.
- 20:52Usually when someone that works for you or that you work with is
- 20:55trying to give you something you have to be careful because there
- 20:58is no something for nothing, you pay now or you pay later and
- 21:02this is a lesson that I think would be good for you to learn
- 21:05now because It could prevent you from making some serious
- 21:10mistakes and owing people being indebted to people, you know,
- 21:14you did them a favor. They I'm sorry they did you a
- 21:16favor and then they come back to collect at a certain point.
- 21:18You're going to have to, you're going to have to pay up your
- 21:21debt for the favor, right? And, and we're talking minor
- 21:24things, but sometimes they're bigger things, right?
- 21:26So just be mindful, there is no free lunch.
- 21:29And if you're smart about it, you'll ask yourself, why do they
- 21:32want to give me things for free? What is there to gain by them?
- 21:36Giving me this think about it. Like just just sit back and
- 21:39think about the last person that gave you a gift outside of a
- 21:43loved one. Right?
- 21:44Someone that you work with it. Why was it that they gave you a
- 21:46gift? Think about it was, it was it
- 21:48truly a reward? Was there something that you had
- 21:51to do for it? Right there.
- 21:52There is some sort of exchange for of energy that goes on with
- 21:55every gift exchange, right? You had to do something to earn
- 21:59it, or you will have to do something to earn it.
- 22:01So anyway, Do that experiment on your own law.
- 22:05Number 41 avoid stepping into a great Man's Shoes.
- 22:10This is an interesting one for chefs because sometimes you're
- 22:12taking over a chef job and you might be going from cook and
- 22:16you're replacing the sous, chef that left where you might be
- 22:19going from sous, chef to executive chef, or you might be
- 22:21taking over a new restaurant or kitchen.
- 22:23And a lot of times it's very difficult to take over places
- 22:27where someone was doing exceptionally well.
- 22:30I took over an executive chef job once, and this person was
- 22:35loved, they were loved by their entire team.
- 22:38And I went in there and thinking, well, I'm a solid
- 22:41Chef, I'm a great cook. And I was a little bit naive and
- 22:44I went in there, thinking I could win them over and I wasn't
- 22:47going to lay anyone off. I was going to go in and just
- 22:49win them over and it was one of the biggest mistakes I've made
- 22:52in my career because they were so loyal.
- 22:54Not only had they worked with this person.
- 22:55At this one job, they had worked with him at the previous job,
- 22:57two or three jobs. They had been loyal to this
- 22:59person. So when I Came in, you know, up
- 23:02front. You get the gifts.
- 23:04Like I talked about there were very nice to me and upfront and
- 23:06courteous, but then little by little, they all started
- 23:09quitting on me. And I regret that because I
- 23:12could have brought people on early on.
- 23:15But instead I had to deal with the constant disaster of
- 23:17everyone quitting to go and work for this Chef, I've also done
- 23:21that. Like I've worked somewhere as a
- 23:23chef and then I go somewhere else and my team comes with me
- 23:26because they're loyal to me. And I often think to myself, boy
- 23:29it must have sucked to be the chef that came in after me
- 23:32because all the team talked about was, oh, I'm going to go
- 23:35work over there. It's not as good as it used to
- 23:37be right. It's frustrating for the new
- 23:38person to come in. So I would caution you if you're
- 23:42going to be in that position where you're taking over for
- 23:44someone that is especially someone that was beloved in the
- 23:46position, it makes it makes your job, much more difficult, so
- 23:51just be cautious of that. Also, from a culinary
- 23:54perspective, I also think it's important that you create your
- 23:58own path when it comes to the food that you're serving.
- 24:00So don't try and exactly copy. Another person's menu Cuisine
- 24:09style, you have to stand on your own two feet.
- 24:12That's the greatest. The greatest expression someone
- 24:17can have is to express themselves uniquely, right?
- 24:20And not express what someone else has done.
- 24:23So you need to stand on your own two feet and also in this
- 24:25industry especially with Instagram and Google and all
- 24:28this other stuff, people know. Like if you're copying someone
- 24:30else's style people know and it's important that you have
- 24:32your own unique style and that is assuming that you're doing
- 24:35like a chef-driven concept. However if it's just you know
- 24:39I'd say if it's if it's if it's General Cuisine I think everyone
- 24:42kind of cooks the same way if we're talking about like okay
- 24:44make it Gumbo everyone might make it the same way or make
- 24:47pommes puree or onion soup. That's different.
- 24:49I'm talking about if you're making Chef Andres onion soup,
- 24:53that does it a certain way? Well then everyone's going to
- 24:55know that okay, that's clearly their version of it.
- 24:57Anyway, law number 42, strike the shepherd and the Sheep will
- 25:01scatter. This is very common in larger
- 25:05operations but it's also common in small kitchens.
- 25:07There might be someone that is the Bad Apple but sometimes that
- 25:12bad apple that might be stirring up descent in your kitchen,
- 25:16might have the support of the people around them.
- 25:19So a lot of times I noticed this is there's usually like a more
- 25:22experienced, cook could be a sous chef, but let's just say
- 25:25it's a more experienced cooked and they're really good at
- 25:27complaining and talking and they understand how to stir up the
- 25:31passion in the cooks around. So they'll say something like,
- 25:34oh I can't believe the chef does this.
- 25:36Why don't we get that or you know they are speaking about the
- 25:41obvious frustrations that usually everyone is feeling but
- 25:45they are able to make it like to turn those frustrations which
- 25:49are very normal, right? You work in a kitchen there's
- 25:51going to be frustrations that everyone feels I'm working too
- 25:53long. I'm on my feet all day.
- 25:54Why do they get to sit down? Why do they get water?
- 25:57Why do they get to make themselves this like it's the
- 25:59constant y? Then y then y them.
- 26:01And so this person stirs up contention, And dissent amongst
- 26:04the team and the people that are not wise to this happening, they
- 26:09start to go along for the ride and they start to rot.
- 26:12You're right. They start to Rally behind this
- 26:14person when you. And, and if you're listening to
- 26:17this, you know, who that person is in your kitchen, you have to
- 26:19be careful with them. But if you're the chef and you
- 26:21were aware that this is happening, it's your job to
- 26:24remove them, because when you remove them from the kitchen,
- 26:27all of a sudden there's peace, again, there's stability in the
- 26:31kitchen becomes calm. So, the expression of strike,
- 26:35the shepherd and the Sheep will scatter another way to think
- 26:38about it. Is you have to remove that bad
- 26:42apple from the bunch if not, it will spoil the rest of the
- 26:45apples be mindful of this because this exists in almost
- 26:49every single Kitchen in the world.
- 26:51Lot number 43, work on the hearts and minds of others.
- 26:55If you want a loyal team, if you want to be able to move your
- 26:59kitchen, forward and progress, there needs to be strong
- 27:02leadership coming from you then. Has to be a sense of belonging.
- 27:05Everyone needs to have a purpose.
- 27:08You have to have a vision to move forward, but more
- 27:10importantly, than all of that is.
- 27:12You need to be connected to your team.
- 27:15You need to know who they are. You need to have conversations
- 27:17with them. They need to feel like they're a
- 27:18part of what you're trying to accomplish, so they could be
- 27:21invested in it. And that's not going to happen
- 27:23by talking down to people. That's not going to happen by
- 27:27acting like you're the exception to the rule, as I like to say
- 27:29Caesars, not above the law. So, if the rule is 41, a rule is
- 27:33for rahl. Because the second that you say,
- 27:36this is a rule for all of you guys, but it's not a rule for
- 27:39me, right? You all are not allowed to do
- 27:42this, but I am because I'm the chef and maybe there's some gray
- 27:46area and that like, of course, we're talking about certain
- 27:48things. So, I'm just talking about like
- 27:49the rules of if the rule is fold, your towels.
- 27:52Everyone has to fold their towels.
- 27:53Not just not just the cooks of the chef has to do it too.
- 27:57Everything that you have to hold people accountable to, you need
- 27:59to be able to do it yourself. And I've talked about this
- 28:01before, but in order to win the hearts and minds of people, they
- 28:05have to understand that you're human, they have to understand
- 28:07that you're with them and they have to understand that you're
- 28:09not acting outside of the rules and that you support them on it.
- 28:14But that Mission Vision and purpose that everyone needs to
- 28:18understand. It has to be clearly
- 28:20communicated in everyone needs to understand what it is.
- 28:22Everyone you should be able to go up to every cook in your
- 28:24kitchen and say, what are we trying to achieve?
- 28:25How are we going to do it? And what is your role in
- 28:27achieving that and all three. All three things should be easy
- 28:31for them to answer and if they cannot then either either you
- 28:35haven't done a good job at explaining that to them or they
- 28:39don't care. And I would assume it's probably
- 28:42that you haven't done a good job explaining that to them.
- 28:44So that's something very important because people will
- 28:46stick around if they feel that they have a sense of belonging
- 28:49and a sense of purpose. And you as the chef assuming
- 28:53that you're the chef, you're the person that needs to create that
- 28:55and if you're not the chef, if you're the cook, you know, ask
- 28:58yourself. Do I know those three things in
- 29:00my own kitchen, law, number 44, disarm and infuriate, with the
- 29:05mirror effect. Now, mirroring is something that
- 29:09we talked about in body language, where you match their
- 29:13tone, you match their body language.
- 29:14If they tilt their head one way, you've also copy them and you
- 29:17tilt your head the same way. And this is something that's
- 29:20done in body language. Build rapport.
- 29:22I teach it to people that I Mentor when they go on
- 29:24interviews like you should measure someone's body language
- 29:26if you want. If you want them to like you in
- 29:29the reason you would mirror someone's body language is
- 29:31because people like things like themselves.
- 29:34So as a mirror you see this is an example.
- 29:38If you act like I act and you move like I move in, you talk
- 29:43how I talk? That means you must be a lot
- 29:44like me and I like me. So I like you.
- 29:46That's a very simple way of explaining it.
- 29:48So that's it. That is just using the mirror.
- 29:51Rain effect to get ahead. Whether we're talking about job
- 29:53interviews, but if we want to use the mirror effect to
- 29:56infuriate people, I'll give you an example.
- 29:58I had a chef that was stealing my Cooks.
- 30:00Deliberately like he was showing up at job fairs, he was copying
- 30:04my ideas. He was doing everything he could
- 30:07to replicate what I was creating and fronting, like he was my
- 30:11friend, which like I was stupid, like, I wasn't wise to what he
- 30:14was doing. Like I said I'm freaking Art of
- 30:17War Chef. Like I see your moves and I'm
- 30:20two moves ahead. It but when you start doing that
- 30:24back to the back to them and, you know, the Trap that they're
- 30:27trying to set for you and you play their own Trap Back on
- 30:31them. That's infuriating.
- 30:33That's the mirror effect. So as a chef, you have to be
- 30:36wise to this, use the mirror effect to your advantage of
- 30:40people are stealing dishes from you.
- 30:42And you know they stole your exact dish steal, their exact
- 30:45dish return, the favor and maybe they'll get the message maybe
- 30:49that's an extreme example but that's Basically what I'm trying
- 30:52to say here. Law number 45, preach the need
- 30:56for change, but never reform too much at once, and this is an
- 30:59excellent lot. I could definitely apply to
- 31:01being a chef whenever I would go into a place, I would always for
- 31:06the first 30 days, and I do talk about this in culinary
- 31:08leadership fundamentals. But whenever I go into a new
- 31:10place for the first 30 days, I would try not to change
- 31:13anything. I would just sit back and
- 31:15understand and I would work the first 30 days straight.
- 31:18If it was a hotel or a restaurant, I would try to work
- 31:20the Thirty Days Straight if I could and I would take a journal
- 31:24and I would mark down all the things that I wanted to change
- 31:27immediately. But I wouldn't change anything.
- 31:31I would just write them down and the reason I would do that is
- 31:33because After you've been at a place for a certain amount of
- 31:37time. You stopped seeing things that
- 31:38what they call wallpaper like, it's just there, you don't even
- 31:40notice it anymore. You don't remember the color of
- 31:42the wallpaper but when you're new and you have a fresh set of
- 31:45eyes, it's important to jot down all the things that you want to
- 31:48change, but it's not realistic that you will be able to change
- 31:52all the things immediately upon taking over as a chef.
- 31:55If you write down 200 things, there's no way you're going to
- 31:58change 200 things and it's going to stick.
- 32:01So once you've determined what those things are that you need
- 32:03to change, then it's slowly. But surely prioritize them.
- 32:07What is the most important thing to change in this kitchen?
- 32:09And normally I'm like if it's like a health concern you got to
- 32:12change that right away or if there's something that's
- 32:15unethical going on in your kitchen, address that right away
- 32:18but besides those two, if it's like we should move the cryovac
- 32:22machine over here like just just pump your brakes.
- 32:24There might be a good reason why certain things are done in a
- 32:27kitchen that you don't fully understand yet because I've gone
- 32:30to Places in, I've made that list of several hundred things
- 32:33that I want to change and then I go back and look at it after 30
- 32:36days and I'm like okay now I understand why that works.
- 32:39That way I'm actually scratching that off the list and I'm not
- 32:41going to change it because I understand why it's done this
- 32:43way at this place. So The other reason you want to
- 32:48not do so much at once is because it won't stick whenever
- 32:51you're making change and you have a lot of Staff.
- 32:53The old expression of a lot of places will do like standard of
- 32:56the day, and I say, do the standard until it's right.
- 32:59Because if you, if you hit them with the standard of the day at
- 33:01every single day, it's something different.
- 33:03They're not all going to stick, right?
- 33:04They're going to forget what the standard of the day was 10 days
- 33:07ago. So if the standard I'm just
- 33:08saying, this is fold, your towels, let's just use this
- 33:10because I love this example of the standard is fold, your
- 33:12towels, then make that the standard every single day until
- 33:15You can no longer find a towel that's unfolded, and then it's
- 33:18like great, we've mastered fold the towels.
- 33:20Now we're moving on to cut the tapes rate and so on and so
- 33:22forth. So if you implement too much at
- 33:25once, it's not going to stick the likelihood of it.
- 33:27Sticking is very low, so go slow but be deliberate and don't
- 33:33overwhelm your team. Don't forget, the change is more
- 33:36difficult for them than it is for you because they've been
- 33:39doing it a certain way for a long time.
- 33:40It's the ghost in the machine that keeps it go in a certain
- 33:43way and they might not even know why they do it.
- 33:45That's The way they've always done it.
- 33:46So make change gradual because it can be overwhelming and then
- 33:50when it becomes overwhelming, a lot of people decide to leave
- 33:53and then could be a bad thing. Law number 46, never appear to
- 33:58perfect show. Humility be humble, be open to
- 34:01feedback demonstrate that, you're committed.
- 34:03To improving yourself as a chef and a leader and that you also
- 34:07have the opportunity to grow when you make a mistake.
- 34:10Like let's just say you put a bad dish on the menu and it's a
- 34:12bad dish, don't not take it off out of pride.
- 34:15I'd go take it off and tell your team.
- 34:17It just sucked. It was a bad dish.
- 34:19Let them see that. You are humble, and that you're
- 34:22human and that you have and that you make mistakes just like
- 34:25everyone else. if you appear to be too perfect, sometimes that
- 34:30could cause resentment because because people know you're not
- 34:34perfect and they'll see your bullshit and if they see your
- 34:38bullshit but you act like that bullshit doesn't exist, then
- 34:41they begin to resent you and they like then it's not only do
- 34:46we see your bullshit but we also think you're full of shit.
- 34:48So being humble, will actually connect you more with the team
- 34:53once they see that you're human, just like them and you make
- 34:55mistakes and telling them those stories, sharing, those stories
- 34:59of being humble and your mistakes makes you more
- 35:01relatable and ultimately You want at the end of the day,
- 35:03especially with your team, as you want to be relatable to them
- 35:06law. Number 47, don't go past the
- 35:08mark, you aimed for in Victory. Learn when to stop. sometimes,
- 35:13you know, you might achieve a milestone or an award and I'll
- 35:17tell you I'll tell you the in my situation I had achieved a
- 35:24certain amount of success and I kept, you know, the way I am is,
- 35:27like, I want more, I want more, I want more and by pushing for
- 35:30more, I pushed beyond the capabilities of not only myself,
- 35:35but also of my team. You know, we were x amount of
- 35:38staff in the kitchen and we were creating great food in order to
- 35:42create even better food. I said, well, let's just we
- 35:45pushed to this level. Let's push to the next level and
- 35:47so we made the food. Exponentially more difficult,
- 35:49but we couldn't We didn't have more staff and we didn't have
- 35:53more resources. But I wanted more, I thought,
- 35:55you know, the best chefs are doing this.
- 35:56I need to do this and by doing. So what ended up happening is
- 35:59that it ended up causing really disastrous Services because the
- 36:04food was too complicated. We were punching way above our
- 36:07weight, not as an individual, but as a whole as a collective,
- 36:11there was no way that we could perform at this level without
- 36:13more resources added. But I wanted to keep pushing and
- 36:16I didn't know when to stop and because I didn't know when to
- 36:19stop it ended up becoming a failure.
- 36:22And I think it's important that, you know, that you need to be
- 36:24realistic with your goals and when you achieve them, if there
- 36:27is no additional influx of capital or resources or cooks or
- 36:31whatever the case may be. Whatever it is that you need to
- 36:33succeed, then you need to know. This is we're going to be for a
- 36:36while at least with the cards that were dealt.
- 36:38This is a very good place. Let's refine where we're at
- 36:42versus trying to go through to the next level.
- 36:44That is unattainable which may cause failure.
- 36:47And it's an important thing that people understand that
- 36:50especially as a chef, because I've seen many chefs lose
- 36:53themselves, myself included because they pushed a little too
- 36:56hard and they were punching above their weight without the
- 36:59resources available to do so, law, number 48, Assume
- 37:03formlessness. Let's talk about culinary
- 37:05Trends. I'm often reluctant to talk
- 37:07about Trends and people often ask me like why don't I post
- 37:10more food? And the reason I don't do that
- 37:12is because then you get tied to this idea of that's who they
- 37:17are. That's what they cook.
- 37:18And I go back and I look at food that I've made over the course
- 37:20of my career and like, the stuff that I was making 15 years ago
- 37:23that I thought was amazing, I think is terrible now, even
- 37:26sometimes I look at the stuff that I was serving five years
- 37:29ago and I think, wow, that's really dated.
- 37:31And at the Moment, I thought it was incredible if I played it
- 37:34something today, five years from now, I'm gonna look back and
- 37:37think it's terrible. You have to be open to evolving
- 37:40and I don't want people to identify again.
- 37:43I'm using myself as the example, I don't want people to identify
- 37:46me with a certain style of food, because that's not what chefs
- 37:48PSA is about chefs. PSA is about helping you become
- 37:50a better Chef. It's not about showing you the
- 37:53latest technique when it comes to cooking, it's more about how
- 37:56to think like a chef and how to think, like a strategist.
- 37:59That's what chefs PSA is about, how to succeed in a kitchen as a
- 38:01cook or a chef Chef and the advice I would give to someone
- 38:04when I say be formless is don't pigeonhole yourself into a
- 38:07specific Trend and I've seen a lot of chefs go wrong with this
- 38:11and I'll give you an example. If everyone jumped onto the
- 38:15Molecular Gastronomy Trend in the early 2000s, when Ferran
- 38:19Adria was way hot on top and I'm talking about, like, serious
- 38:22bubble food like spheres, you know, just a bowl full of air or
- 38:26whatever the case may be, if you had, if you were serving that
- 38:30today, I think people would be like what the fuck are you?
- 38:32Doing why are you doing this? No one would get it and you
- 38:35might be get pigeonholed into being that Chef.
- 38:38That only does that type of food or you're the chef that only
- 38:41does forging or whatever the case may be.
- 38:44If you get pigeonholed into that I don't think that's so smart.
- 38:48I think that you need to be formless.
- 38:51I think that you need to be a great cook.
- 38:52I think you should focus on the technique, I think you focus on
- 38:55making delicious food and I think you should have a large
- 38:59repertoire because Trends come and go.
- 39:02And I I could tell you as someone who was in the business
- 39:04for 27 years as a chef About every three years, there's a new
- 39:09trend that pops up. And after about six years,
- 39:13whatever was going on six years almost seems Obsolete and dated
- 39:17especially if it was a trend Trends, die.
- 39:20I mean, by the very nature of the word it's going to die the
- 39:23trend so be careful with Trends. Focus on just being a good cook
- 39:27and a good Chef. Anyway, be formless, that was
- 39:30law. Number 48, that was the 48 Laws
- 39:33of Power As Told from a chef my perspective.
- 39:38I hope you enjoyed this series. I enjoyed doing it.
- 39:40It was provocative for me to think about every single law and
- 39:43how it could be analogous to a chef's life.
- 39:47How people could incorporate it into what they do and also
- 39:50things to look out for and I hope that maybe you could come
- 39:53back to this series and listen to it again and maybe hear
- 39:56things that maybe you didn't hear the first time around.
- 39:59I know I do that often. When I'm reading books, I'll go
- 40:01back and read a book again. I'll be like, I don't remember
- 40:03reading that and that makes total sense now especially
- 40:06depending on where you are in life.
- 40:07Life. This podcast series might ring
- 40:10differently when you're a cook forces.
- 40:12Sous chef versus the head chef and the shepherd's open up a
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- 40:19different to you in different things will make sense at
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