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  Speaker 1: It's the reform it Tonight, Donald Trump versus the Pope
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  Speaker 1: on his war in Iran guests who wins. Plus the
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  Speaker 1: Aberteze government's boast about its latest female hire. It's the
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  Speaker 1: first woman to lead our army. But isn't the boasting
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  Speaker 1: about it suspicious?
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  Speaker 2: Or so?
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  Speaker 1: Tonight a new pole smashes the myth that migrants hate
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  Speaker 1: one nation and danger a government hand out backfar as
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  Speaker 1: on the people it claims to be helping. But first,
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  Speaker 1: I'm shocked by two things about the Abendze government's response
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  Speaker 1: today to the Iran war. And we're not even talking
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  Speaker 1: about its stupid ad telling us to say petrol by
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  Speaker 1: taking the roof racks off our cars.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to that too.
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  Speaker 1: That No, the two things I'm talking about show the
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  Speaker 1: ross responsibility of this government and a blind ideology that
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  Speaker 1: just threatens us with disaster. I'll start with Chris Bone,
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  Speaker 1: the Energy and Climate Change Minister. You see peace talks
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  Speaker 1: between the US and Iran ended in failure on the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump says, all right, the US as of tonight,
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  Speaker 1: is going to blockade all Iranian ports, stop all ships
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  Speaker 1: carrying Iranian oil.
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  Speaker 2: Takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: He runs biggest source of money while leading through ships
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  Speaker 1: from other Gulf countries.
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  Speaker 3: By ten o'clock tomorrow we have a blockade going into
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  Speaker 3: a pack that'll be ten o'clock tomorrow. Other nations are
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  Speaker 3: working so that Iran will not be able.
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  Speaker 2: To sell oil.
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  Speaker 1: Now, of course, this is going to take even more
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  Speaker 1: oil out of the system, unless, of course, the US
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  Speaker 1: can meanwhile clear the Strait of Homus of any Iranian
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  Speaker 1: mines and stop Iranian attacks. And are the oil tankers
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  Speaker 1: trying to get through now? On Saturday, the US did
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  Speaker 1: send to US destroyers with equipped to locate mines and
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  Speaker 1: map of safe passions through. They defied warnings from Iran's
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  Speaker 1: navy to turn back.
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  Speaker 4: You must alter course and go back to the Indian
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  Speaker 4: Ocean immediately. If you don't oway my order, you will
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  Speaker 4: be targeted. I'm ready to open fire on them, widowed
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  Speaker 4: any running now.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting is the Uranians either couldn't stop those ships
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  Speaker 1: or didn't dare still we are in strife. We're looking
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  Speaker 1: out weeks and probably months more disruption to the world's
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  Speaker 1: all supplies to ours. Really, but enter crispone today with
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  Speaker 1: spin so dumb that it astonishes me. The journalists didn't
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  Speaker 1: laugh in his face. For instance, he claims this war
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  Speaker 1: teaches us this lesson.
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  Speaker 5: In all my discussions with my international colleagues energy and climate,
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  Speaker 5: there isn't one country in the world that said, you
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  Speaker 5: know what this field crossis reminds us is we need
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  Speaker 5: more fossil fuels. That conversation is not being had anywhere
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  Speaker 5: around the world. In fact, our countries around the world
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  Speaker 5: are saying this underpins and underlines the need to keep
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  Speaker 5: going with things like electrification and ensuring renewable energy is
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  Speaker 5: an important part of the mix going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Yes you did.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, hear Bowen say we don't need more fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 1: But if that's the case, why was his own Prime
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  Speaker 1: minister in Singapore just last week begging it to send
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  Speaker 1: us more fossil fuels, petrol and diesel.
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  Speaker 6: We have three priorities when it comes to energy, both
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  Speaker 6: now and certainly in the immediate period. They are supply,
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  Speaker 6: supply and supply.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, we so need more fossil fuels that Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Albanezi will tomorrow also flow to Malaysia and Brunei to
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  Speaker 1: ask for their fuels as well. To save Australia from
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  Speaker 1: economic collapse. And it is certainly not flying. They'd ask
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  Speaker 1: for more sunshine or wind. Albinis is desperate because fossil
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  Speaker 1: fuel supplied ninety one percent of the energy that our
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  Speaker 1: economy uses ninety one percent. And if we don't need
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  Speaker 1: more fossil fuels, can Chris Bowe then explain why the
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  Speaker 1: government is now spending twenty million dollars urging Australians to
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  Speaker 1: save what fuel we have left. No matter how piddling
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  Speaker 1: it might be pleading, the.
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  Speaker 7: Global fuel shortage is affecting everyone and we all have
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  Speaker 7: a part to play. Your simple actions like pumping up
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  Speaker 7: your tires can make our fuel supply go further. For
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  Speaker 7: more tips, is it fuel planned dot garv dou now.
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  Speaker 2: At least this ad campaign shows us.
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  Speaker 1: That the government it may be running out of fuel,
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  Speaker 1: but it isn't running out of wo still casting lots
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  Speaker 1: of minority groups in its ad. You know, broke but woke,
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  Speaker 1: but clearly we do need more fossil fuels. Even when
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  Speaker 1: Crispone says, well you know we couldn't said electrify everything,
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  Speaker 1: Well that would need fossil fuels to a lot more
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  Speaker 1: of them, like coal and gas to supply the extra
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  Speaker 1: power all those electric cars and to keep our electricity
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  Speaker 1: system stable enough to work. But Bowen is stuck on
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  Speaker 1: stupid claiming sun and wind are more reliable in wartime.
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  Speaker 5: No war can impede the flow of sun to Australia.
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  Speaker 5: No sanctions can be applied to wind. And the sun
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  Speaker 5: has to travel one hundred and fifty million kilometers to Earth.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't have to travel the one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 5: kilometers and straits of Hormores.
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  Speaker 1: Memo to crisperone. Australian oil, if you'd help get it
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  Speaker 1: out of the ground instead of stopping, it would not
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  Speaker 1: have to go through the Strait of Hulmors either. Australian
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  Speaker 1: petrol refined in Australia would not have to go through
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  Speaker 1: the Strait of Humors. Australian coal and Australian uranium dug
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  Speaker 1: up right here, that wouldn't need to go through the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Humus. And that is the real message from
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  Speaker 1: this war. Australian fuels for Australia, that is what we need.
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  Speaker 1: But I said there were two examples of this government's
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  Speaker 1: almost criminal blindness in this war. The other came from
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  Speaker 1: Anthony ALBINIZI there extraordinary round of TV interviews this morning,
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  Speaker 1: which prompts this very simple question of the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 1: can you trust the Iran with nuclear weapons?
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  Speaker 2: Can the US now walk.
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  Speaker 1: Away from this war leaving Iran with uranium enriched for
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  Speaker 1: as many as eleven nuclear bombs, Because we've all seen
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  Speaker 1: what the Uranian regime will do already with what it's
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  Speaker 1: got as far as missiles and drones a dozen of
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  Speaker 1: its neighbors in this war, It's cause of worldwide economic
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  Speaker 1: crisis by deliberately stopping oil supplies from the Gulf. It's
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  Speaker 1: also funded the world's worst terrorist armies and fired rockets
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  Speaker 1: with cluster bombs at Israel. The country says it once
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  Speaker 1: wiped off the map. It's even murdered up to thirty
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  Speaker 1: six thousand of its own people in January. So can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine what more this regime would do with nuclear bombs?
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  Speaker 1: And this is not some wild hypothetical, as the International
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  Speaker 1: Atomic Energy Agency says, around is actually enriched about four
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  Speaker 1: hundred kilos of uranium to sixty percent. It's now presumed
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  Speaker 1: buried by bombing at three possible sites. This is uranium
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  Speaker 1: clearly meant for one purpose only, and that is nuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 1: If you just want urine for electricity, you know, nuclear
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  Speaker 1: reactors that in his five percent of Richmond, not sixty.
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  Speaker 2: So clearly Around lied.
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  Speaker 1: For decades that it wasn't working on nuclear weapons, and
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that lie was called out. The United States made
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  Speaker 1: to run an offer. Give up the uranium and the
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  Speaker 1: bombs could stop the sanctionscrippling your country, will ease your
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  Speaker 1: devastated economy, inflation now more than seventy percent, that will
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  Speaker 1: start to recover. You can have a nuclear bomb or
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  Speaker 1: you can have peace. And Iran's regime chose the bomb,
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  Speaker 1: chose the nuclear bomb over.
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  Speaker 2: Peace and their people, which says everything.
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  Speaker 1: Now for Donald Trump, this is the key issue, as
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  Speaker 1: he made clear this morning, just.
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  Speaker 3: So you understand, Around will not have a nuclear weapon,
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  Speaker 3: will not have There is no way that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to get They still want it, and they made that
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  Speaker 3: clear the other night. Around will not have a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the make or break when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to a peace there with Iran. Right, it is no
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  Speaker 1: to letting Iran keep what it needs to build nuclear
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  Speaker 1: bombs that can make the next war a holocaust. So
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  Speaker 1: how reckless and irresponsible irresponsible is our prime minister this
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  Speaker 1: morning in his blitz of media interviews for demanding peace
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  Speaker 1: at any price, not once mentioning that that price off
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  Speaker 1: is included leaving around without you were any for nuclear bombs,
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  Speaker 1: not once mentioning that it leave this terrorace regime with
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  Speaker 1: a means of wiping out Israel or its neighbors, or
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  Speaker 1: even a European capitalist as well all albanies. He wants
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  Speaker 1: is the oil for the US and Iran to just
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  Speaker 1: stop fighting and open the straight of formors.
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  Speaker 6: We want to see an end to the conflict in
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  Speaker 6: the Middle East, and we want to see the Strait
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  Speaker 6: of Hormers opened with freedom of navigation. We want to
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  Speaker 6: see an end to this conflict. We want to see
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  Speaker 6: the Strait of Hormers opened for all. We want to
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  Speaker 6: see the Strait of Hormers opened. We want to see
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  Speaker 6: the escalation.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there indestrupt moments in history of which we ask,
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  Speaker 1: what would have happened if only we'd acted earlier to
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  Speaker 1: stop her?
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  Speaker 2: You know the classic assassinate Hitler.
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  Speaker 1: Now one day if in the Alban easy got his way,
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  Speaker 1: our children ask why wasn't he runs for regime stopped
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  Speaker 1: even when the US had it on its knees and
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  Speaker 1: the answer will be because people like Anthony Albanezi preferred
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  Speaker 1: oil today to no nuclear war tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: It really is that shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Kroger form the president of Victorian Liberals and Steve Connor,
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  Speaker 1: former Labor Senator and Covenant minister. Michael Kroger, why did
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister not mention in any of his many
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  Speaker 1: interviews today the fundamental issue that is stopping a piece
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  Speaker 1: deal with Iran. America's the man that Iran give up
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  Speaker 1: the uranium that it has enriched, specifically for nuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 8: Well, if nothing we've contributed to the war, either participating, supporting,
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  Speaker 8: or in the negotiations, of course he should have mentioned that.
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  Speaker 8: But if he starts talking about that, then it begs
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  Speaker 8: further questions, which are, what are you doing about it
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  Speaker 8: to help the Americans, to help the civilized world defeat
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  Speaker 8: this brutal sort of neo Nazi regime, So it draws
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  Speaker 8: him further into the discussions. Andrew, when he and Penny
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  Speaker 8: Wong play the same tune they've always played, which is
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  Speaker 8: what we really need in the Middle East is restraint
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  Speaker 8: and coming things down. Well, if that was the case
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  Speaker 8: with sil have hamas Hezbla and the hooties firing at
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  Speaker 8: Israel and elsewhere. And unless this regime is stopped and
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  Speaker 8: the nuclear energy pursuit is stopped, this will all happen
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  Speaker 8: again in due course.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Conroy, I might have got this strong and you
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  Speaker 1: tell me. Anthony Albernezi says, just open the straight and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to matter to him whether or not
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  Speaker 1: Iran keeps that that is specifically enriched for nuclear weapons.
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  Speaker 2: Have I got that correct?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I don't accept your characterization at all, Andrew, of
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  Speaker 9: what the Prime Minister said this morning. I mean, Donald
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  Speaker 9: Trump hasn't mentioned nuclear bombs and nuclear material for at
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  Speaker 9: least ten days. This morning, yeah, he did it. He
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  Speaker 9: did it this morning, And for the previous days it
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  Speaker 9: was all about all about opening the straits of a moves. Okay,
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  Speaker 9: So Donald Trump's position today is just the nuclear material. Now,
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  Speaker 9: I agree, I support getting that nuclear material, but I'm
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  Speaker 9: just not accepting your characterization, Andrew. Two days he has
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  Speaker 9: not said it consistently. You'll be the only person on
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  Speaker 9: the planet, Andrew who thinks Donald Trump has said consistent
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  Speaker 9: things for the last month. You'd be the only person on.
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  Speaker 2: The grounds of my show. But I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: have an arguing match with you.
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  Speaker 1: I've played it on my show, consistently said it again today,
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  Speaker 1: he said it yesterday, he said it a million times.
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  Speaker 1: Nuclear weapon bottom line, has said it even before the
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  Speaker 1: war and before he was president. Now we've you've got
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  Speaker 1: this iranium in Iran there it is four hundred kilograms.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just Trump that says it. What should Anthony
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  Speaker 1: albaniz he say about it?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I don't think Donald Trump gives a flying fig,
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  Speaker 9: Anthony think.
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  Speaker 2: Care less. He wants to.
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  Speaker 9: See a de escalation, that's all he said. He hasn't
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  Speaker 9: called for surrender. He's called for a de escalation, which
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  Speaker 9: the majority of the world would like to see, but
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  Speaker 9: not on any terms he did not say. Just let
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  Speaker 9: him keep air, let him charge a toll on the
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  Speaker 9: straight of her Morves.
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  Speaker 2: That's all fine. So what should he say?
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  Speaker 9: None of those things he should said, none of the nation.
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  Speaker 9: What should he say? He should support international efforts to
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  Speaker 9: try and end the war. That's what he should do,
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  Speaker 9: and that's what he's done. Whereas you're saying, actually do
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  Speaker 9: exactly what Donald Trump says on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 2: Was that whip Steve Party.
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  Speaker 1: I hope Anthony Albanese is so grateful to you for
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  Speaker 1: trying to defend him in an indefensible position, because God,
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  Speaker 1: you go through to some length.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you appreciate that.
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  Speaker 9: Michael getting the uranium, Yeah you will.
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  Speaker 8: Andrew Albanese has been appalling ever since October seven. Was
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  Speaker 8: in the aftermath, was labor at its worst. These people
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  Speaker 8: are basically, you know, irrelevant in the international scene. Of
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  Speaker 8: these leaders Albanese in Wan, no courage, not standing by
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  Speaker 8: our allies, constantly calling on the Jews of Israel to
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  Speaker 8: exercise restraint, don't go into Lebanon, exercise restrain against us,
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  Speaker 8: on and on and on we go about, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I mean they would have they would have been telling
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  Speaker 8: Churchill to exercise restrain against that Olf Hitler. That's what
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  Speaker 8: they would have been doing. These people are you know,
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  Speaker 8: of Dallas out of the world. And let me tell you.
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  Speaker 2: This, Andrew.
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  Speaker 8: This dispute where their un is going to keep going
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  Speaker 8: for quite some time. I mean in twenty fifteen, John Kerry,
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  Speaker 8: the then Secretary State, attended eighteen meetings eighteen with the
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  Speaker 8: Iranian foreign minister. There were one hundred days of negotiations
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  Speaker 8: and they went for two years before the JCPOA was signed.
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  Speaker 8: So if you think it's a failure that there's been
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  Speaker 8: one day of one meeting in islamabard and that's it.
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  Speaker 8: These negotiations could go in two weeks, they could go
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  Speaker 8: on four months because the Uranians have the planting on
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  Speaker 8: their side time time.
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  Speaker 1: They can't go in for months because because the Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is scott But the three nuclear armed aircraft carriers
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  Speaker 1: in the area, plus how many troops fifty thousand plus,
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  Speaker 1: you can't keep them there forever. So no, it is
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  Speaker 1: on shortly. They can't talk their way out of this.
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  Speaker 1: Mind you. I've got to give you some help here,
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  Speaker 1: reinforcements for you, Stephen, because Anthony Albanez he does have
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  Speaker 1: company here. Donald Trump actually had a whack a pope
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  Speaker 1: Leo for also avoiding the main issue, and he implicitly
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  Speaker 1: criticized Trump's war on the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Never listen, Basto con Lesibato Conuerra.
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  Speaker 3: We don't like a pope that's going to say that
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  Speaker 3: it's okay to have a nuclear weapon. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of Bubblio. He's a very
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  Speaker 3: liberal person and he's a man that doesn't believe in
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  Speaker 3: stopping crime. He's a man that doesn't think that we
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  Speaker 3: should be join with a country that wants a nuclear
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  Speaker 3: weapons so they can blow up the world. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a fan of Bubblier.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't want to harp on this Stephen, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone who is serious calling for an
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  Speaker 1: end to this war cannot start with this question. But
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  Speaker 1: what shall we do with the run's rich uranium? Because
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  Speaker 1: that's the first question, and then where do you go
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  Speaker 1: from there?
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  Speaker 2: What would you do? Well?
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  Speaker 9: I would be trying to get it off the uraniums
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  Speaker 9: if they're able to, and I would host it's not
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  Speaker 9: buried and it's able to be retrievable. Okay, So I
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  Speaker 9: have no difficulty saying we should be trusted that. But
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  Speaker 9: Michael's point is completely correct. They're playing for time. They've
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  Speaker 9: already called his bluff three times. Three times have called
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  Speaker 9: Trump's bluff and three times is folded. That's just the reality.
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  Speaker 9: So the question is if they keep as Michael has suggested,
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  Speaker 9: they will keep on drawing it out. At what point
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  Speaker 9: does Trump either declare victory and cut and run or
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  Speaker 9: does he actually engage with ground forces to try and
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  Speaker 9: retrieve the material those are. I wouldn't want to be
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  Speaker 9: making those choices. They are really tough.
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  Speaker 2: Asking killed their leadership down three levels.
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  Speaker 9: We've taken out most of their offensive capacity other than
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  Speaker 9: their drones. We're still obviously not able to completely stop
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  Speaker 9: drone warfare. It's a new era and not everyone is
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  Speaker 9: able to deal with those. But those other choices, is
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  Speaker 9: he going to actually commit or is he going to
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  Speaker 9: keep trying to talk to them, make ridiculous threat to
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  Speaker 9: attack everybody who disagrees with him, and then chicken out again.
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  Speaker 1: That's basically basically you're saying. You see, you're going exactly
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  Speaker 1: against what you're praising. Other and easy for saying we
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  Speaker 1: want pauce. You're saying sending the troops and you're chickening out.
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  Speaker 1: We'll send them a trace troops. I said, it's a
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  Speaker 1: terrible Do you say he either does that or he
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  Speaker 1: chickens out. That's what you just said, Chris bow and
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  Speaker 1: Michael Chris and though he didn't, he actually bombed around
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  Speaker 1: to a hell of a lot. Chris bo And says
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  Speaker 1: it's war proofs that we should go wind and sol
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  Speaker 1: and not look for more fossil fuels. The premise and
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  Speaker 1: meanwhile he is looking for more fossil fuels. Is Chris
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  Speaker 1: bone a fossil or is he a fool?
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  Speaker 8: No, he's a zealous And that's the problem with Zelle.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was thinking about this the other day.
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  Speaker 8: You know, every hospital in this country, Andrew, every hospital
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  Speaker 8: has backup generation in case electricity fails. You can't have
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  Speaker 8: electricity off in a hospital. You got surgery, you got
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  Speaker 8: you know, women in labor, you've got people that need operations, right,
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  Speaker 8: you have to. Every hospital in this country has backup generation,
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  Speaker 8: which is diesel.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's diesel. There's not a.
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  Speaker 8: Hospital administered in this country that wants the backup generation
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  Speaker 8: to be wind or solar. I mean, the bottom line
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  Speaker 8: is Chris Bowen is a zealot with a blank check.
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  Speaker 8: If you read Robert got Leaves AND's frightening articles in
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  Speaker 8: this AUSRALI in the last couple of days, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 8: giving Chris Bowen a blank check to spend hundreds of billions.
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  Speaker 2: A trillion in the.
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: Next couple of decades will be the total bill It's frightening.
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: Someone needs to rain Bowen in and his comments this
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: morning were absurd. Yes, you're right, Andrew, That's exactly what
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Albaneze he's doing. He's going over needs to get oil
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: and to get you know, refined oil and petrol. That's
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: what he's going overseas. Is not going over to get
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: more wind and solar power.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Stephen, I'm running out of time, but I've got to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: jump to this one. The twenty million dollars the governor's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: spending to encourage us to remove roof racks and inflate
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: our tars properly to save petrol. The promise is asked
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions about that today.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Have listened.
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: Minister, twenty million dollars. It's a lot of money, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: people are telling us it feels like a waste. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: think this is the first time you've come on our
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: show since this crisis began. We would have had you
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: on for free and you could have told everyone pump
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: up your tires and useless fuel.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: It goes to your network, amongst others NAT, which is
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: about keeping the economy going and giving people that direct
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: information which is so important at this point in time.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Steve Conry, was it important information? Have you removed your
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: ski rack from your car and check the inflation on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the tars?
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: Well?
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: Look tragically the three of us follow politics on an
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: almost minute by minute basis and albows too polite to say.
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: The Liberal Party, the Nationals, the One Nations all running
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: absurd scare campaigns to try and convince the Australians were
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: about to run out of diesel and petrol. The Prime
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: Minister is scouring our region securing it. The tankers are
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: still coming. We have more than we had at the
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: beginning of the war. Now is that a long term solution?
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: Now I'm in the I'm in the refined business. I'm
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: in the We need to actually produce more of these
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: natural resources. I still want to see the transition. But
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: given what we're seeing in the world today, the uncertainty
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: that we face, we need to have a greater silver
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: sufficiency in all of these resources, oil and gas for
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: the transition.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Liberals had signed you up when you were seventeen instead
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of labor or whatever it was made, you would be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: formidable in arguing the Liberal course instead of this one.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Good on you for trying. Michael crosleeph and Conroy. Thank
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you very much to you both.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: After the break in the year run war, it is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: not over, as you've obviously gathered plus the Pope blast
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and Trump hits right back.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: But then the Pope is another word.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Now the obas the government's called for the Strait of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the moves to be open to oil tankers, but won't
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: lift a finger to make you run do it?
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: Just to clarify, if asked, will we provide help with
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: the blockade of the Strait.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Of Homers, Well, we haven't been asked, Carl, and I
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: don't expect that we will be.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the man Albert is the appointed today it to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: be our new head of defense. The Defense Force claims
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: our navy could help if the Prime ministers had told
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it to.
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: We've got ten surface combatants right now, eight of them
• 22:52
  Speaker 13: are at sea today. That navy is as ready as
• 22:55
  Speaker 13: it ever has been, and they are fitted with one
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: of the most advanced radars in the world CEA radar
• 23:01
  Speaker 13: and some of the most advanced missile and point defense
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: systems in the world. Are they capable of performing the mission,
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: as Admiral Johnson said last week, absolutely. A contribution is
• 23:09
  Speaker 13: one for consideration by the Australian government should they receive
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: a request, and there's been no such request as yet.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Joman it's the country's top Foreign Affairs RADI Greg Sheldon,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the Australian Greek. I suspect you're going to be skeptical
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: about both parts of that argument. One that the Albit
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: easy wise in the offering to help, but also do
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: we actually have the help of the new admiral now
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: claims that we have.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing is more threatened to our economy than
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a run stopping the oil tankers. Yet the government is
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: not offering any help at all to get those takers through.
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: Well. Mark Hammond is a good man, a very distinguished
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: service member. He doesn't tell lies intentionally, But that was
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: absolute bulberdash. That was government propaganda. Of course, you can
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: send any ship to the straight up holl moves the
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: Americans protected. That's the point of the operation. They're going
• 24:03
  Speaker 11: to protect Savinian oil tankers. So I mean, you could
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: send an Anzac frigate. But the Anzac frigate has eight
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: vertical warter cells. A modern Korean destroyer has one hundred
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: and forty. Why have the Koreans bothered with having one
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: hundred and forty when eight is apparently just as good.
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: The Albanza government, when it first came into office, decided
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: not to go ahead with an upgrade of the weapon
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: systems of the ANZAC. The ANZACs, apart from being old
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: age pensioners, which could frequently need the NRAMY or the RACV,
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: they frequently need grapes by the systems when they're out
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: and about. Apart from being old age pensioners, they are
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: amongst the least lethal warships in the entire world. Now
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: we have two air warfare destroyers currently in service. You
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: could conceivably send one of those as part as an
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: extremely marginal contribution to an entire American green but it
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: would be very, very very marginal. We have, you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: in Alberaneesi's defense. We have sent the a Wax aircraft
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: to the United Arab Emirates, and defending the Emirates is
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: actually supporting the American war aims in the Middle East.
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: I'm very curious that we have these Special Service soldiers
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: in the Middle East. I'd love to you know, we're
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: told therefore just for evacuating Australians. Well, I don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: You never know what the Special Forces are doing. I'd
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: be interested to know more about that. We could conceivably
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: send a squadron of F thirty five's or something and
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: picking up the American effort. But there is nothing we
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: could do in the navy. And I have a piece
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: about this in the Australian Tomorrow. Hammond good, honest, decent,
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: splendid person that he is. That was just government propaganda
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: trying to kid us into thinking we have a much
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: more formidable navy than we really do. We've never had
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: an older navy than now, and we've seldom had a
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: more decrepit navy than now.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We do have two aging mind sweepers left, although heaven
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: knows how long it take them to get to where
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: they're needed now.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But I guess that's about it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: The peace talks in Pakistan last weekend between Iran and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: American delegation led by Vice prision Jet Evans broke up
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: with no deal.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What do those talks tell you about where this war
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: is going?
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I can't resist the mate on the mind sweepers.
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: Our mind sweepers are so old they should be in
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: a museum, but we have two of them, and the
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: Albanza government canceled the order for their replacement ships, so
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: now mind sweepers are in an absolute premium. We have
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: no mind sweeping capability. If the Chinese laid minds around
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: all our ports, you know, just to be unfriendly at
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: the start of a war, there's not a damn thing
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: we could do about it. Why did those talks fail?
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: I do think that we are in for a long
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: struggle here. The Iranian leaders are amongst the most despicable
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: people in the world, and I want the Americans and
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: the Israelis to win. However, they are not hypocritical about
• 27:09
  Speaker 11: their willingness to face death. Unlike a lot of dictators.
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: They are perfectly sanguine about death. And they can read
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: the American polls too. They see that this war has
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: about thirty percent support in America and zero percent support
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: for ground troops. If the Americans are really going to
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: open the straight of hall moves against active Iranian opposition,
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: they're going to have to take. At the very least,
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: are quite a few of the islands that the Iranians
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: have in the straight of hall moves. If they're going
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: to recover that uranium and the Iranians don't give it
• 27:44
  Speaker 11: to them, there's going to be an enormous military operation
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: to do that. Now, Trump, you know, I know, people
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: who like Trump say just concentrate on what he does,
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: not what he says. But he has not in any
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: way prepared the American people for the sacrifice and the
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: length of time that such operations would require. Mike Pizzullo
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: argues very persuasively that a better president could have got
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: Allied support much earlier, and Trump is now trying to
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: retrofit solutions to problems that were obvious to any military planner.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Now I think the.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: Iranians have no incentive to do a deal. Trump can
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: resume strategic bombing, but it's not clear to me how
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: that compels Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz or
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: to surrender their uranium. And of course, the moment Trump
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: does that, the oil price goes through the roof. I mean,
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: part of the confusion has been on day one, Trump
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: is trying to reassure the oil and stock markets by saying,
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: conflicts all over, forget it, we're coming home, it's all finished.
• 28:44
  Speaker 11: On day two, is trying to spare the Uranians by
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: saying We're going to wipe out your civilization and destroy
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: every electricity plant and all your desalination capability. And this
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: just has created enormous confusion and confusion is a real net,
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: you know, negative in a strategic campaign like this.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Well, not confusion among the enemies, but yes, certainly at home.
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: Greg.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to skip over the Pope because I've run
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: out of time, but I just want to quickly ask
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you this because I think it's really good news this morning,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: or it was this morning, and very good news for Ukraine.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Victor Orban has been the right wing prime minister of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Hungary for sixteen years, but then he started to get
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a bit crazy. Yesterday lost an election in a landslide,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: which is I think very good because he was an
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: ally of Russia dictator of Vladimir Putin. Was even recorded
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: telling Putin he was at his service, and he meant it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, he blocked the European Union for giving huge
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: loans to Ukraine, persuaded Donald Trump the Ukraine's president, Zelenski was.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: No good and Trump liked Allban so much.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Really last week sent Vice President ja d vance the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: campaign for Allban and to repeat lies about Zelenski like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 29:57
  Speaker 14: I wasn't even aware that Zelenski had said it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: He was going to send private.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: Soldiers to the prime Minister's residence until yesterday Victor actually
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: told me that, and I went and looked it up.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Almost couldn't believe it's true. But it's true.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Well, dvances of fools, Zelenski said, soldiers, but telephone or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: band not go to his home. So how important is
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Orban's defeat?
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I agree with everything you said there, And
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: you know, I loved Jade Vance's book for Hillbilly Elogy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: But it just shows you the madness that infects the
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: Trump administration. If you could get a fact like that,
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: so basic, so wrong against an ally of the United States,
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: A lot of meres Alenski. Now, I think All Band
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: much earlier on he'd contribute some positive things, and there
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: was there was quite a lot to like about Hungary.
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: It controlled its borders, that's not a bad thing. It
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: was pro you know, birth, you know, tried to encourage
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: people to have kids, looked after its Jewish community. But
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: the problem is in a democracy you've got to have
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: a rotation of government, and I think there was a
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: massive problem of corruption, which grew worse as the All
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: Band government. I think so real longer. And you're absolutely right.
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: His attitude to Putin was an absolute disgrace and Bootleck.
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: It'slf interested. I think it was probably involved, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: a good deal of corrupt financial building.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And Greg, Greg, let me just point out there I should.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I should right now have had a graphics ready to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: go of that huge country estate that Orban has built
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: for himself on his humble prime minister's salary.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Mate, I can add two plus two as well. Greg Sheridan,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: thank you so much in def your tone. Really appreciate it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: After the break, the Albany is in governments.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Its housing handout has just back far and its slatest
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: housing handout, and a lot of the young Australians could
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: now get.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Hurt the Albanies.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: The government will deliver its budget next month and we
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: must pray that for once it doesn't play that disastrous
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: hand out game, you know, cause a problem like higher
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: power prices, higher inflation, higher house prices, and then instead
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of fixing it, just give people a handout to make
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the pain somehow go away, right, borrow money from the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: future to hide a problem. Cause today I'll give you
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a new data showing just how badly that can backfire.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: You take these house prices, you know, if you're young
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in Sydney for instance, or Melbourne. Well, good luck trying
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to afford a home. Of course, the government could just
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: stop it importing, you know, half a million people a year.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: That really would help.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Instead, it said late last year, well look when instead
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: going to give first homeowners a handout, We're going to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: help them buy a house with just a five percent deposit.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: The government will then guarantee the rest of their deposits
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: so they don't have to pay lender's mortgage insurance. Well
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it worked in a way. I mean you look how
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: lending to first home borrowers jumped in the last three
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: months of last year. The problem is that the price
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of cheap houses that those extra buyers were chasing that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: shot up as well, shut up by much more than
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: pricier houses. I mean, this graphic shows the prices for
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: our biggest three cities. The cheapest twenty five percent of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: houses is in orange or pink or whatever that color is.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: In each city, you see the prices for those cheaper
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: houses rose a fair bit, well certainly more than for
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the more expensive ones. In fact, in Sydney and Melbourne,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the more expensive ones, particularly in purple, they lost value.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Joining me, a Sky News business enter ross screen was
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: spoke to mishort while ago Ross Green will thank you
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: so much for joining you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: What do these figures tell you?
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: Well, effectively, it says to me, at least anyway that
• 33:53
  Speaker 14: number one, the government didn't get as much success out
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: of its first time bias scheme as it would have hoped.
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: The second thing is it didn't help to build any
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: more houses in Australia. And the final thing is what
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: really troubles me now is with it likely to be
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: at least another two and potentially three more rate rises,
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: with fuel prices going up, the very people at the
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: government was trying to help out those people with not
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: much of a deposit five percent deposit if home price
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: is from here five or god forbid ten percent, those
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: people are in negative equity and could find themselves in
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: very difficult circumstances, all made for by the government which
• 34:33
  Speaker 14: promised them an easy way to buy a house.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Look, I just think this is dreadful.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So they've they've borrowed more to actually pay more and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: will maybe lose that deposit as you say, if Verius
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: is full. But are we going to get I mean,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: this is the whole thing. You know, all these band
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: aids over for the rising electricity prices.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And all that. They do not fix the UNDERLA problem.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think we're still going to get another handout
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: budget now that this war looks making inflation even worse
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: than the government will be running him will be desperate
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: hand out even more of those band aids.
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: Well, when you sit there and you think about because
• 35:14
  Speaker 14: it seems to be that that is always the answer.
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: Like in this particular case with housing, the idea was
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: somehow in Antony Albanese's utopian mind that everybody should be
• 35:25
  Speaker 14: able to afford a home. And of course we know
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: it is tougher for younger people these days because house
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: prices had accelerated, But the reality is that some people
• 35:33
  Speaker 14: simply can't afford a home. It's not like everybody should
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: be able to win a medal at the school at
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: the school races, for example. Some people simply can't because
• 35:42
  Speaker 14: of their economic circumstances.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And it's always been that way.
• 35:46
  Speaker 14: So to me, the real problem of the budget is
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: that the government's going to raise taxes on key industries
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: and on households, which is only going to add to
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: the pain that's coming from rising fuel prices and rising
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: sort of you know sort of things like mortgages and
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: whatever it might be that's going on, and at the
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: time when you are likely to get as a result
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: of all the economic hurt, rising unemployment. Now all of
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: this really is almost like the magic and cotion to
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: really some sort of economic slodeout, if not recession. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 14: this is not the time for the government to be
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: going all right, let's just hand out more people to
• 36:21
  Speaker 14: make people think that we're okay.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: It's just not right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: It needs fundamental reform, It needs to make Australia more competitive,
• 36:28
  Speaker 14: and it needs to make some hard decisions and certainly
• 36:31
  Speaker 14: not have a coom by our government where everybody thinks
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: that they're fabulous and good in all manners and all facts.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Can you just explain to me how this has worked? Right?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So the Prime Minister was in Singapore last week, is
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: going to Malaysia and Brunei tomorrow. The idea is that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he's somehow threatening if we don't get our petrol, you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: don't get our gas. But how does that work when
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: he doesn't own the gas. What can he say the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: gas companies to make them break their contracts?
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: The other thing, also, how does he say that given
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: the fact that there are long term decades long contracts
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: in place with the gas supplies. How can you say
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: that when in some cases, particularly Singaporean companies have actually
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: stumped up the capital helped to build the infrastructure that
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: has created the gas plants and facilities in Australia.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So how can you possibly say this?
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: Now you might go there for good will and say hey, listen,
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: we can provide you gas in the future. Also, then
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: you come back and say another thing. Are you, as
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: a government then going to commit to overcome the environmental
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  Speaker 14: controls that are now existing to prevent places like Narrabriyan,
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  Speaker 14: New South Wales from opening up its gas fields to
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  Speaker 14: provide more gas to the East Coast so we can
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  Speaker 14: export more to Singapore, Malaysia or wherever. Are you going
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  Speaker 14: to allow the likes of the Beatloo projects of Barossa
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  Speaker 14: projects to come on stream faster, to actually fast line
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  Speaker 14: the pipeline. Are you going to do all of these
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  Speaker 14: things to ensure there.
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  Speaker 2: Is enough gas not only for Australia.
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  Speaker 14: But for the export markets as well. Because if you're
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  Speaker 14: doing that and then going to the world and telling them, hey,
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  Speaker 14: we got plenty of gas, you can get some of that,
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  Speaker 14: maybe that would be the answer, but we're not seeing
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  Speaker 14: that side of it. So we ensure that there is
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  Speaker 14: more supply here in Australia of gas to make all
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  Speaker 14: Australians sayer as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then Bango's the net zero target. Bangoes their commitment
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  Speaker 1: to because an araba approach. It's actually held up right
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  Speaker 1: now by native title considerations. I'd like to see him
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  Speaker 1: use that problem with its own base. Russ Green would
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 14: Always terrific to chat to you with Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: After the break.
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  Speaker 1: More posting from the governments and appoints our first female
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  Speaker 1: head of the Army. But should gender matter this much
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: when hiring her? The Promison defensemans So today announced that
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: appointed and new head of our army and both made
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a big deal of her being the first woman ever
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  Speaker 1: in the job. And it was so much of a
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  Speaker 1: deal that I thought it was perhaps natural to suspect
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  Speaker 1: that that was her gender a qualification for the job.
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  Speaker 1: Judge for yourself.
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  Speaker 6: Lieutenant General Coyle will be the first woman in our
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  Speaker 6: nation's history to command the Australian Army.
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  Speaker 12: She will be the first woman to command a service
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  Speaker 12: in Australian history, and it is a deeply historic moment
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  Speaker 12: one that should be noted. As Susan said to me,
• 39:39
  Speaker 12: you cannot be what you cannot see, and Susan's achievement
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  Speaker 12: will be deeply significant to women who are serving in
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  Speaker 12: the Australian Defense Force today and women who are thinking
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  Speaker 12: about serving in this Australian Defense Force in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the albaniz And government is sposically quite often
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of doing such a thing, appointing the first woman to
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  Speaker 1: head the Reserve Bank, the first woman to be Treasury Secretary,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the first female majority High Court, the first female head
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  Speaker 1: of the Federal Police, the first female Solicitor General, the
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: first female director of National Intelligence, and so on. Unfortunately,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Abide is to sell for appointing only the second female
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: governor General Damn Thwarted. Joining me are Lisa Godad Godard,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: former foreign correspondent, founder of It Only Media and Scarne.
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  Speaker 2: You Nigga to Georgia Lisa. Every one of.
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  Speaker 1: Those appointments they could be the perfect candidate. I am
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: not saying they aren't.
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  Speaker 2: But what does make me.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Suspicious how is how every one of those appointments come
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with the government congratulating yourself, you know, a little tap
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: on its own shoulder, or being hero congratulated for being
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: so brave that it is a woman, as if this
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: reflects on the governor rather than on the appoint t
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: or do you think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, fair enough Andrew.
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  Speaker 15: First of all, it's a really impressive role call. So
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: it's great to see women in all of those positions.
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  Speaker 15: But can I start with saying the Labor government will
• 41:14
  Speaker 15: not put into the Sex Discrimination Act what the biological
• 41:17
  Speaker 15: definition of a woman is, but they are up there
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  Speaker 15: front and send are very proud to be saying first woman, this,
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: first woman, that first woman there, So at least I
• 41:25
  Speaker 15: guess they know what a woman is even though they
• 41:27
  Speaker 15: won't put it into the Sex Discrimination Act. Look, as
• 41:29
  Speaker 15: far as this new appointment goes, I think it's great
• 41:32
  Speaker 15: to see her in that position, but based on merit.
• 41:35
  Speaker 15: I think Denika and I are both on a unity
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  Speaker 15: ticket on this. We've always said it should be based
• 41:39
  Speaker 15: on merit. And she's gone from being a reservist through
• 41:41
  Speaker 15: to a three star general. Fantastic. But what the troops
• 41:44
  Speaker 15: on the ground want to see is that she is
• 41:46
  Speaker 15: there and that she could lead, and that our defense
• 41:49
  Speaker 15: forces are about a war fighting capability, not what person
• 41:52
  Speaker 15: and what gender is leading them.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, Denika. But the more they talk
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: about how wonderful it is, the that she's a woman
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and we've done this and she's a woman and you
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: can't be what you can't see, well, that's obviously lie
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: because she is what she couldn't see. All that kind
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of stuff is the less I'm hearing about what a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: great soldier.
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  Speaker 16: See is absolutely And I was going to actually say
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  Speaker 16: exactly what Lisa said, Anthony Abernezi, what is a woman?
• 42:19
  Speaker 16: I many champions the women here, Well, what is it?
• 42:21
  Speaker 16: Please to find it? Look, you're right, Andrew, and quite frankly,
• 42:25
  Speaker 16: as a woman myself, I find it utterly offensive. This
• 42:28
  Speaker 16: absolute nonsense where we've got to make a big deal
• 42:31
  Speaker 16: out of the gender card. What I would like to
• 42:33
  Speaker 16: know from this new recruit is what she's going to
• 42:36
  Speaker 16: do for the Defense Force. How is she going to
• 42:38
  Speaker 16: improve recruitment. How is she going to attract the best recruits?
• 42:42
  Speaker 16: I mean, there is a crisis right now in the ADF,
• 42:44
  Speaker 16: and how is she going to shore us up to
• 42:46
  Speaker 16: make sure that we have the strongest people in the
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: team in the event that we are attacked? And when
• 42:52
  Speaker 16: you hear you first female of the adf automatically your
• 42:56
  Speaker 16: mind goes to Dei because so many roles have been
• 43:01
  Speaker 16: picked based on gender that it's out of control. Do
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: you think that China is sitting there right now in
• 43:08
  Speaker 16: Beijing going, oh, well, we better put some more women
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: into the job for dee. I know they would be
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: sitting there laughing at labor right now that they're having
• 43:17
  Speaker 16: the very conversation and saying, keep talking about it, keep
• 43:21
  Speaker 16: talking while we train up our recruits. I find it
• 43:24
  Speaker 16: quite frankly offensive, to be honest.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget what the army really is there for.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: In the end, take away all the fuzzy stuff about
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: helping people across the street and helping in the disasters.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: There to be an efficient killing machine, an efficient killing machine,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and I want to hear about what you'll do about that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I just got to ask. I had these other questions
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: lined up, but I just got to ask.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Lie. So I'm really puzzled about this ad that the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: government has done to make us save more fuel that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: crispon and says, we don't actually need you don't need
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: more fossil fuels, but apparently we do this as an ad.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: And he also says they haven't modeled the effect of
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: this ad where they will actually save much fuel. But anyway,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: have you taken down your ski racks from your car?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Have you checked the inflation of your tars? Is seeing
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: these ads because these are the helpful tips.
• 44:20
  Speaker 15: Well, Andrew, when you talk to my husband, can you
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: tell him to go out and check the tire pressure
• 44:23
  Speaker 15: on the car that we're great and no, look everything
• 44:26
  Speaker 15: is still in to No. No, everything is still in
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: the back of the boot.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 44:30
  Speaker 15: I just think twenty million dollars can be far more
• 44:32
  Speaker 15: wisely spent at a time when you've got people who
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: are struggling to make ends meet. It's the same thing
• 44:37
  Speaker 15: we say day after day after day, and they must
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: look at this and go, how on earth can our
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: government spend twenty million dollars on an ad campaign and
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: look effectively? It's what he said in his three minute
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: address to the nation. Anyway, so it can all be
• 44:49
  Speaker 15: pushed out through social media.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I don't buy it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 15: I think it's a huge waste of money and what
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: they need to be is upfront with where we actually are.
• 44:55
  Speaker 15: And for goodness sake, can we stop getting the daily
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: updates from Chris Bowen? About how many petrol stations are
• 45:01
  Speaker 15: out of fuel. There are better things this man can
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: do about managing this crisis and stand up every day
• 45:06
  Speaker 15: and give those tellies.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it's an admission of failure. I kind of like
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that seeing that. But Denika, I mean, so far my
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: survey is getting zero responses that yes, I have checked
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the tires for the proper inflation, and I have taken
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the ski racks or whatever it is, the or the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you know whatever it is on the roof off.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Have you done any of these things or do you
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: know anyone that has?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: As soon as they saw that, ay, they raced outside
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and you could hear the old you know, the screwdriver
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: going no.
• 45:38
  Speaker 16: And let me tell you this, I've never checked my
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: tires for the air pressure. That that's the mechanic's job,
• 45:43
  Speaker 16: back Andrew. So I'm going to say that the answer
• 45:45
  Speaker 16: is absolutely not, do you know wasting money? Wait, innocent?
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Do you know what?
• 45:49
  Speaker 16: My favorite, though, my favorite tip was when in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 16: in the ad or in part of the ad on
• 45:55
  Speaker 16: the website, it says that when you go up to
• 45:57
  Speaker 16: fill up for fuel, don't go over the click so
• 46:00
  Speaker 16: you know what you get to full, don't go over
• 46:03
  Speaker 16: the click. Don't waste Oh how much much do you?
• 46:07
  Speaker 16: How much fuel is going to come out? Andrew? When
• 46:10
  Speaker 16: you do go over that click right the most minute amount,
• 46:13
  Speaker 16: it's not going to save anything. And it's actually hard
• 46:16
  Speaker 16: to go over that click. For goodness sake. What a
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: waste of twenty million dollars to tell us what we
• 46:22
  Speaker 16: already know. And the other point I'd make just quickly, Andrew,
• 46:25
  Speaker 16: is how many people are actually going out right now
• 46:27
  Speaker 16: wasting fuel when fuel is so expensive. We are not idiots,
• 46:31
  Speaker 16: we're not mugs, and yet they're treating us like we
• 46:34
  Speaker 16: have no idea what we're doing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 15: But Andrew, at the very same time, at the very
• 46:38
  Speaker 15: same time, you've got industry bodies who have been told
• 46:41
  Speaker 15: by the strongly recommended by the government to do their
• 46:44
  Speaker 15: modeling on what rationally would look like, so diesel heavy industries,
• 46:48
  Speaker 15: what you need.
• 46:49
  Speaker 16: To keep operating at a bare minimum.
• 46:51
  Speaker 15: So I know from various industry bodies, I've been told
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: or strongly recommended to do the modeling, and that modeling
• 46:56
  Speaker 15: is sitting with the federal government. But hey, we're going
• 46:59
  Speaker 15: to We'll add yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Look there you go.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Well it shows the government cares. And I think that's
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars well spent on its behalf, if not
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: on ours, Danika. Fascinating new poll by red Bridge exposes
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you know that lazy myth of the lever one nation.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: You're racist.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: The migrants must hate it because you're against immigration at
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the very least. The fact is a lot of migrants
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: don't hate it. This new pole Redbridge compares Labour's primary
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: vote to One Nation's shows that Labor has a very
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: small lead over one Nation when it comes to voters
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: born in Australia thirty percent to One Nation's twenty eight,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: which is remarkable. But One Nation still gets a healthy
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: minority of voters who were born overseas one in four
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: of them twenty six percent to Labour's thirty six have
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: more the liberals skip.
• 47:51
  Speaker 16: What does that tell you, Well, it tells me this
• 47:53
  Speaker 16: racist and biggot argument is a thing of the past,
• 47:55
  Speaker 16: and it's thanks to the likes of Pauline Hanson who've
• 47:57
  Speaker 16: come out strongly on this. Don't forget Andrew. Migrants are
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: feeling the cost of living pinch as well. They're also
• 48:03
  Speaker 16: in this housing crisis. Labor has not achieved not one
• 48:06
  Speaker 16: of its housing targets. They are seeing that there is
• 48:09
  Speaker 16: not enough infrastructure, nothing is being built. Building approvals are
• 48:12
  Speaker 16: at their lowest in years, So yeah, that they're feeling
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: it too. And I also believe that they know that
• 48:18
  Speaker 16: there are people who have been brought into this country
• 48:20
  Speaker 16: that don't want to assimilate and don't respect our values
• 48:23
  Speaker 16: like the majority of migrants actually do. So I am
• 48:26
  Speaker 16: not surprised by this, and it tells me that, yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 16: one nation is on the money in many many ways.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Lisa fifteen seconds.
• 48:35
  Speaker 15: I absolutely agree. Everyone always argued that the policies were
• 48:38
  Speaker 15: based on racism, or clearly they're not. And my question, Andrew,
• 48:41
  Speaker 15: is what happened to the Liberal Party? You know that
• 48:43
  Speaker 15: policy that was dropped after Susan Lee was kicked out.
• 48:45
  Speaker 15: What's happened with that that was meant to be the
• 48:47
  Speaker 15: hard line from Liberal Nothing on that front at all.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I need to come back to that very point
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow. Lisa, god Danika to Georgia. Thank you very
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: much to you both. Coming up next to this shore
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: already hosted by Steve Price.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Good night, hmm