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- 0:04Speaker 1: At 6.40 in the morning on February 11th, 2019, a
- 0:09Speaker 1: fisherman named Mark Vaughan pulled his line from the cattail
- 0:12Speaker 1: fork and saw something that should not have been there.
- 0:16Speaker 1: A book, floating face down in 38 degree water, spine intact,
- 0:22Speaker 1: pages still mostly closed. He had fished that stretch for
- 0:27Speaker 1: 11 years and never once found anything like it. The
- 0:30Speaker 1: odds were one in a million. It happened anyway. Von
- 0:35Speaker 1: lifted the book from the water, read the cover, and
- 0:38Speaker 1: understood nothing about why it mattered. Nobody did. Not yet.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Nobody did. Not yet. What followed over the next 72
- 0:48Speaker 1: hours involved a librarian's lunch break, a car accident on
- 0:52Speaker 1: a two-lane road, an email that sat unread through an
- 0:56Speaker 1: entire night, and a phone call that lasted two hours
- 1:01Speaker 1: and 40 minutes. But to understand what made any of
- 1:04Speaker 1: that possible, you have to go back 40 years, to
- 1:08Speaker 1: a yard in the American South, to a four-year-old girl
- 1:12Speaker 1: who walked out of the frame and never came back.
- 1:15Speaker 1: There are two things to hold onto from the start. First, first,
- 1:20Speaker 1: the book Vaughan pulled from that river was one of
- 1:23Speaker 1: only three copies in any library system in the country,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and it had sat on a shelf for seven years
- 1:29Speaker 1: without a single person asking for it. Then, in January
- 1:34Speaker 1: of 2019, two people placed a hold on it at
- 1:38Speaker 1: the exact same time. They had never spoken. They did
- 1:42Speaker 1: not know the other existed. Second, one of those two
- 1:46Speaker 1: people had been searching for the other for 39 years.
- 1:50Speaker 1: This is not a story about what was lost. It
- 1:53Speaker 1: is a story about what a waterlogged genealogy book, a
- 1:56Speaker 1: borrowed library card, and a borrowed Wednesday night phone call
- 2:00Speaker 1: made possible. And the thing that reading this case makes
- 2:03Speaker 1: undeniably clear is that the reunion almost did not happen.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Not because the trail ran cold, but because of a
- 2:11Speaker 1: moment of completely ordinary bad luck on the night it
- 2:14Speaker 1: was supposed to begin. David Bauer was nine years old
- 2:18Speaker 1: in the summer of 1979 when his sister Karen disappeared
- 2:23Speaker 1: from the backyard of their home in the American South.
- 2:26Speaker 1: He was at school. By the time he came home,
- 2:29Speaker 1: she was gone. His mother, Denise Bauer, told police that
- 2:33Speaker 1: Karen had wandered away from the yard. Karen was four.
- 2:37Speaker 1: The search produced nothing. No confirmed sightings. No leads that held.
- 2:43Speaker 1: The case went cold fast. The way cases involving small
- 2:47Speaker 1: children often did in 1979, when there were no national databases,
- 2:53Speaker 1: no coordinated search infrastructure. and no mechanism for connecting a
- 2:57Speaker 1: missing child in one state to an informal placement in another.
- 3:01Speaker 1: David grew up in the specific silence that follows that
- 3:04Speaker 1: kind of loss. Not grief with a shape to it,
- 3:08Speaker 1: not mourning with a defined end, but something more like
- 3:11Speaker 1: a frequency that never fully stops, a question that has
- 3:15Speaker 1: no answer but will not go away. He became an
- 3:19Speaker 1: estimator for a construction firm in Spokane, Washington. He built
- 3:24Speaker 1: a practical life, And every Wednesday at nine in the evening,
- 3:28Speaker 1: Spokane time, he called Nora Fleming. Fleming was a retired
- 3:33Speaker 1: social worker in Louisville who coordinated volunteers for a nonprofit
- 3:38Speaker 1: cold case clearinghouse. She was not a detective. She was
- 3:43Speaker 1: not an investigator in any formal sense. She was a
- 3:46Speaker 1: woman who had spent her career connecting people to systems
- 3:51Speaker 1: and who, after retirement, had redirected that skill toward families
- 3:55Speaker 1: like David's. For six years, every Wednesday without fail, she
- 4:01Speaker 1: and David talked. They went through leads together. They documented
- 4:05Speaker 1: what existed and what did not. Fleming treated David's search
- 4:10Speaker 1: as a living file, not a closed one. That Wednesday
- 4:14Speaker 1: call was, by any measure, the structural center of his week.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Fleming knew something David did not. In 2015, A volunteer
- 4:23Speaker 1: genealogist working through her organization had found a connection between
- 4:27Speaker 1: Roy Pitts, Nojus Earl, who had been Denise Bower's boyfriend
- 4:33Speaker 1: in 1979, and a man named Harold Pitts, Roy's cousin,
- 4:37Speaker 1: who had lived in eastern Tennessee. Harold Pitts had been
- 4:41Speaker 1: briefly married to a woman named Connie Fenn from Harlan County, Kentucky.
- 4:46Speaker 1: The marriage lasted less than two years and produced no
- 4:49Speaker 1: children but it placed Harold Pitts in contact with the
- 4:52Speaker 1: Fenn family network at exactly the right moment. That connection
- 4:57Speaker 1: by itself proved nothing. What it did was give David's
- 5:01Speaker 1: search a geographic direction it had never had before. By
- 5:05Speaker 1: January of 2019, David had been pointed toward a genealogy book,
- 5:10Speaker 1: a privately published family history called Our People, The Fenn
- 5:15Speaker 1: Family of Harlan County, compiled by a woman named Dorothy
- 5:19Speaker 1: Fenn Wasilewski, and printed in a spiral-bound edition in 1987.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Three copies existed in library systems, one in Lexington, in-person
- 5:31Speaker 1: access only, one in Middlesbrough, Kentucky, missing since 2006, one
- 5:37Speaker 1: in Dunmore Parish, Louisiana, catalogued in 2012. David placed an
- 5:43Speaker 1: interlibrary loan hold on the Dunmore copy in January of 2019.
- 5:48Speaker 1: He did not know that a woman named Karen Norris,
- 5:51Speaker 1: living on a rural route outside Dunmore, had placed her
- 5:55Speaker 1: own hold on that exact book two days earlier, on
- 5:58Speaker 1: January 31st. Karen Norris had held a Dunmore Parish Library
- 6:04Speaker 1: card since 2014. She had borrowed that same book once before,
- 6:09Speaker 1: in October of 2016. She had found one thing of
- 6:13Speaker 1: interest inside it, a passing reference to a Harold Pitts
- 6:17Speaker 1: as a former brother-in-law of a Fenn family member. It
- 6:21Speaker 1: was not conclusive. It was barely a sentence, but it
- 6:26Speaker 1: was a thread. Karen had been pulling on threads for
- 6:29Speaker 1: eight years, ever since a woman named Sylvia Norris, dying
- 6:33Speaker 1: of cancer, had told her the truth about who she was.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Sylvia had raised Karen informally from the time Karen was
- 6:41Speaker 1: very small. She had received the child through a family
- 6:45Speaker 1: connection she described only vaguely. A man, a cousin of
- 6:49Speaker 1: a cousin, a favor done outside any official record. Sylvia
- 6:53Speaker 1: was not cruel. She was not neglectful. By all evidence,
- 6:58Speaker 1: she raised Karen with care. But she had never told
- 7:02Speaker 1: her the truth. Not until the end. Karen had been
- 7:05Speaker 1: born Karen Bower. She had a brother named David. She
- 7:09Speaker 1: had been taken from a yard in the summer of 1979,
- 7:13Speaker 1: when she was four years old. By the time Karen
- 7:17Speaker 1: understood this, Sylvia was too sick to answer questions. By
- 7:21Speaker 1: the time Karen had enough to search on, she could
- 7:24Speaker 1: not confirm that David was still alive. She did not
- 7:28Speaker 1: know his address. She did not know his name had
- 7:31Speaker 1: never changed. She knew only that a man named Roy
- 7:35Speaker 1: Pitts had been connected to what happened to her, that
- 7:37Speaker 1: Roy Pitts had a cousin named Harold, and that Harold
- 7:41Speaker 1: Pitts had once married into a Kentucky family called Fenn.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Two people. One book. One library system. Seven years of
- 7:50Speaker 1: that book sitting untouched. And then, in the first weeks
- 7:55Speaker 1: of 2019, both of them asked for it at the
- 7:58Speaker 1: same time. David Bauer had been searching for 39 years.
- 8:03Speaker 1: He was nine years old. The summer Karen disappeared. Nine
- 8:07Speaker 1: years old, sitting in a classroom, when it happened, which
- 8:11Speaker 1: meant he carried the particular weight of someone who was
- 8:14Speaker 1: not there and could not have stopped it. He was
- 8:17Speaker 1: 48 now, an estimator of construction projects in Spokane, Washington.
- 8:23Speaker 1: He had a precise and methodical mind. He applied it
- 8:27Speaker 1: to the search. the same way he applied it to
- 8:30Speaker 1: everything else. Every Wednesday at nine in the evening, Spokane time,
- 8:36Speaker 1: he called Nora Fleming. Fleming was a retired social worker
- 8:40Speaker 1: out of Louisville. She coordinated a volunteer organization that worked
- 8:45Speaker 1: cold missing persons cases, matching researchers and genealogists with families
- 8:50Speaker 1: still waiting. She and David had been running that Wednesday
- 8:54Speaker 1: call for six years. Fleming's network had turned up the
- 8:58Speaker 1: connection in 2015. A genealogy volunteer had traced Roy Pitts
- 9:03Speaker 1: to a cousin named Harold, and Harold to a brief
- 9:07Speaker 1: marriage to a woman named Connie Fenn from Harlan County, Kentucky.
- 9:11Speaker 1: The marriage had lasted less than two years, no children.
- 9:15Speaker 1: But the Fenn family connection put Harold Pitts in the
- 9:18Speaker 1: right orbit, at the right time, to have known someone
- 9:22Speaker 1: who needed a child placed quietly, and someone else who
- 9:26Speaker 1: might take one. That was the thread, and the thread
- 9:29Speaker 1: led to a book, Our People. The Fenn Family of
- 9:33Speaker 1: Harlan County, 1901-1985. A privately printed spiral-bound genealogy, compiled by
- 9:42Speaker 1: a woman named Dorothy Fenn Wasilewski, in 1987. Three copies
- 9:48Speaker 1: existed in library systems. The copy in Lexington was accessible
- 9:52Speaker 1: only in person. The copy in Middlesborough, Kentucky, had been
- 9:56Speaker 1: missing since 2006. The only freely circulable copy in any
- 10:01Speaker 1: library system in the country was sitting at the Dunmore
- 10:05Speaker 1: Parish Library in Louisiana. David placed an interlibrary loan hold
- 10:10Speaker 1: in January of 2019. He had no reason to think
- 10:14Speaker 1: Louisiana meant anything specific. He was following the only copy available.
- 10:19Speaker 1: And because he was methodical, he waited. What he did
- 10:24Speaker 1: not know was that a woman named Karen Norris, living
- 10:27Speaker 1: on a rural route just outside Dunmore, had held a
- 10:30Speaker 1: library card at that same branch since 2014. What he
- 10:36Speaker 1: did not know was that she had borrowed that exact
- 10:39Speaker 1: book in October of 2016. and found inside it a
- 10:44Speaker 1: single passing reference to Harold Pitts as a former brother-in-law
- 10:48Speaker 1: of a Fenn family member. One sentence, not enough to
- 10:53Speaker 1: act on, but enough to remember. What he did not
- 10:56Speaker 1: know was that on January 31st, 2019, Karen Norris had
- 11:03Speaker 1: placed her own hold on that book. The book had
- 11:06Speaker 1: not circulated in seven years. Now it had two holds.
- 11:12Speaker 1: and it was at the bottom of a river. Mark
- 11:14Speaker 1: Vaughan pulled it out of the cattail fork at 6.40
- 11:17Speaker 1: in the morning on February 11th. The temperature was 38 degrees.
- 11:23Speaker 1: He had fished that stretch for 11 years. He set
- 11:27Speaker 1: the book on the bench of his truck, wrapped in
- 11:29Speaker 1: a rag, and delivered it to the library that afternoon.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Amanda Marshall, the librarian on duty, set it on a
- 11:37Speaker 1: drying rack and did not look at the hold slip
- 11:39Speaker 1: until the following morning. february 12th marshall picked up the
- 11:44Speaker 1: book she opened the circulation record the hold from spokane
- 11:49Speaker 1: had been sitting in the queue since january the hold
- 11:52Speaker 1: from k norris had been placed 12 days earlier two
- 11:56Speaker 1: holds same book one from washington state one from a
- 12:01Speaker 1: rural address she could drive to in 20 minutes she
- 12:05Speaker 1: called the spokane public library to notify them she did
- 12:09Speaker 1: not give them karen's name She did not have authorization
- 12:12Speaker 1: to share patron information across systems. She noted only that
- 12:17Speaker 1: the Dunmore copy had been located and was drying out
- 12:20Speaker 1: after water damage. Then she got in her car. Marshall
- 12:24Speaker 1: drove to Karen's address on her lunch break. The record
- 12:27Speaker 1: does not capture what was said at the door. What
- 12:31Speaker 1: it establishes is that Marshall knew both names were on
- 12:34Speaker 1: the same book and that the local hold belonged to
- 12:37Speaker 1: a woman she could reach in person. She drove there.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Karen Norris was 44 years old. She had been searching
- 12:46Speaker 1: for eight years under conditions David had never faced. She
- 12:51Speaker 1: did not know with certainty that her brother was still alive.
- 12:55Speaker 1: She did not know his address. She did not know
- 12:58Speaker 1: that the name Bauer had stayed constant, that David had
- 13:02Speaker 1: never stopped, that a woman in Louisville had been running
- 13:05Speaker 1: Wednesday night calls on her behalf without knowing she existed.
- 13:09Speaker 1: She knew a handful of things. She knew her birth name.
- 13:13Speaker 1: She knew the name Roy Pitts. She knew the name
- 13:17Speaker 1: Harold Pitts. She knew the family called Fenn. There is
- 13:21Speaker 1: something almost unbearable in the precision of that gap. Two people,
- 13:26Speaker 1: converging on the same obscure book from opposite ends of
- 13:29Speaker 1: the country, each holding one half of a connection neither
- 13:34Speaker 1: of them could complete alone. Marshall brought those halves together
- 13:38Speaker 1: in a library parking lot on a Tuesday afternoon in February,
- 13:43Speaker 1: while a wet genealogy book dried on a rack inside.
- 13:47Speaker 1: That evening, Nora Fleming was in a car accident at 5.40
- 13:51Speaker 1: in the afternoon. Her phone was destroyed in the collision.
- 13:56Speaker 1: She was not seriously hurt, but she could not call
- 13:59Speaker 1: David that night. Wednesday was their night. This was Tuesday, April.
- 14:04Speaker 1: David had no reason to expect contact before nine the
- 14:07Speaker 1: following evening. He went to sleep at 10.30 without any word.
- 14:11Speaker 1: February 13th. A message from Amanda Marshall sat unread in
- 14:16Speaker 1: David Bower's email inbox. He did not check it that night.
- 14:21Speaker 1: The subject line identified it as coming from the Dunmore
- 14:24Speaker 1: Parish Library. February 14th. 7.20 in the morning, Spokane time.
- 14:30Speaker 1: David read the email. Consider what the record actually shows
- 14:34Speaker 1: about how Karen ended up in Louisiana. Sylvia Norris said
- 14:39Speaker 1: she received the child through a family connection, a man,
- 14:43Speaker 1: a cousin of a cousin, a favor done outside any record.
- 14:47Speaker 1: She never named the man precisely, and by the time
- 14:50Speaker 1: Karen was asking, Sylvia could not answer. Roy Pitts was
- 14:54Speaker 1: the name Karen knew. Roy Pitts had been Denise Bauer's
- 14:58Speaker 1: boyfriend in 1979. Roy Pitts died in a Mississippi prison
- 15:04Speaker 1: in 1993, serving time for aggravated assault, a charge unconnected
- 15:10Speaker 1: to Karen's disappearance. He never spoke about it. Picture Roy
- 15:15Speaker 1: Pitts in the summer of 1979, in contact with a
- 15:19Speaker 1: household where a four-year-old girl lived, and in contact with
- 15:23Speaker 1: a cousin named Harold, who had recently married into a
- 15:26Speaker 1: Kentucky family with ties stretching into Louisiana. Picture an informal arrangement,
- 15:32Speaker 1: two phone calls, a drive, no paperwork, no official record,
- 15:37Speaker 1: no one who needed to know. It holds together, but
- 15:41Speaker 1: it does not close. Harold Pitts' marriage to Connie Fenn
- 15:45Speaker 1: lasted less than two years and produced no children. The
- 15:49Speaker 1: family connection to Sylvia Norris runs through that Fenn line
- 15:54Speaker 1: at the right time, with the right geography. The thread
- 15:58Speaker 1: is coherent. Every piece fits the shape of it. But
- 16:02Speaker 1: here's the thing. Coherence is not confirmation. Roy Pitts never
- 16:07Speaker 1: confirmed it. Harold Pitts was never questioned on record. Denise
- 16:12Speaker 1: Bauer died in 2001. Without ever revising the account, she
- 16:17Speaker 1: gave police in 1979 that Karen had simply walked away
- 16:22Speaker 1: from the yard. No one was ever charged. No investigation
- 16:25Speaker 1: was reopened. What the record gives is this. A child
- 16:29Speaker 1: taken through an informal net but was not truthful, found
- 16:33Speaker 1: decades later by a book that two people needed at
- 16:36Speaker 1: the same time, retrieved from a river by a man
- 16:39Speaker 1: who had no idea what he was holding, the how
- 16:42Speaker 1: of it. The specific hands, the specific calls, the specific
- 16:46Speaker 1: road remains unconfirmed. What is confirmed is the outcome. David
- 16:52Speaker 1: called Amanda Marshall at 8.05 in the morning, Louisiana time,
- 16:57Speaker 1: on February 14th. Marshall gave him a phone number. He
- 17:01Speaker 1: dialed it. The call lasted two hours and 40 minutes.
- 17:05Speaker 1: They spoke for two hours and 40 minutes. There is
- 17:08Speaker 1: no transcript of that call. What is known comes from
- 17:11Speaker 1: the shape of what happened after. A late March meeting
- 17:15Speaker 1: in Memphis, Tennessee, chosen because it sat roughly equidistant between
- 17:20Speaker 1: Spokane and Dunmore, a city neither of them had any
- 17:23Speaker 1: particular claim to, which made it neutral and therefore right.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Karen Bauer had been Karen Norris for 40 years. The
- 17:32Speaker 1: name she answered to, the name on her library card,
- 17:35Speaker 1: the name she had carried down every rural road outside Dunmore.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Sylvia Norris had given it to her, and Sylvia Norris
- 17:44Speaker 1: had taken the full story with her when she died.
- 17:47Speaker 1: What she left behind was a single deathbed disclosure, the
- 17:51Speaker 1: name Bauer, the state of Washington, a sister told she
- 17:55Speaker 1: was someone else's child. Karen had been searching under that
- 17:59Speaker 1: name for roughly eight years. She had found the Fenn
- 18:03Speaker 1: genealogy book in October of 2016, checked it out for
- 18:08Speaker 1: three weeks, read it carefully, and found one thing, a
- 18:13Speaker 1: passing reference to Harold Pitts as a former brother-in-law of
- 18:16Speaker 1: Connie Fenn. That was all. A name at the edge
- 18:20Speaker 1: of a family tree, already cut loose. She returned the
- 18:24Speaker 1: book undamaged and kept looking, She placed a new hold
- 18:28Speaker 1: on it in January of 2019. No one can say
- 18:33Speaker 1: exactly why. Whether something new had surfaced, whether she was
- 18:38Speaker 1: retracing old ground, whether it was simply the only thread
- 18:42Speaker 1: she still had, the hold sat in the queue. David's
- 18:46Speaker 1: interlibrary hold had already been placed through the Spokane Public Library.
- 18:51Speaker 1: He had traced the Pittsfen connection through a genealogy volunteer
- 18:55Speaker 1: working with Nora Fleming's organization. The Dunmore copy was the
- 18:59Speaker 1: only circulating copy in the country. He had requested it
- 19:03Speaker 1: in January. His hold also sat in the queue. Then
- 19:08Speaker 1: the book went into the river. Mark Vaughan pulled it
- 19:11Speaker 1: from the cattle fork at 6.40 in the morning on
- 19:14Speaker 1: February 11th in 38-degree air with no way of knowing
- 19:19Speaker 1: what he was holding. He brought it to the Dunmore
- 19:23Speaker 1: Parish Library that afternoon. Amanda Marshall set it on a
- 19:26Speaker 1: flat surface to dry. The next morning, she processed the holds.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Two names, one local, one from Spokane, Washington. No investigation
- 19:37Speaker 1: prompted that alignment. No search algorithm connected them. A man
- 19:41Speaker 1: fishing in the cold found a waterlogged book and did
- 19:45Speaker 1: the ordinary thing. A librarian dried it out and did
- 19:48Speaker 1: her job. That was the mechanism. Marshall drove to Karen's
- 19:52Speaker 1: address on her lunch break rather than wait for the mail.
- 19:56Speaker 1: She knocked on the door. Karen opened it. Marshall did
- 20:00Speaker 1: not know, at that moment, the full weight of what
- 20:04Speaker 1: she was delivering, only that the hold slip had a
- 20:06Speaker 1: name from Spokane. and that something about two people requesting
- 20:11Speaker 1: the same obscure book at the same time felt worth
- 20:15Speaker 1: a drive. What Karen understood when she heard the name
- 20:18Speaker 1: David Bauer from Spokane is not in any record. What
- 20:22Speaker 1: happened next is, she called him. There was no arrest,
- 20:26Speaker 1: no trial, no official accounting of what happened in 1979
- 20:31Speaker 1: in the yard where a four-year-old girl was last seen
- 20:35Speaker 1: by her family. Roy Pitts died in a Mississippi prison
- 20:40Speaker 1: in 1993. Harold Pitts was never formally questioned about Karen's disappearance.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Denise Bauer died in 2001, and whatever she knew or
- 20:50Speaker 1: did not know went with her. The case remained technically
- 20:54Speaker 1: open and practically cold. What the record holds instead is this.
- 20:59Speaker 1: A woman who spent roughly eight years searching for a
- 21:03Speaker 1: brother she was not certain was still alive. a man
- 21:06Speaker 1: who spent 39 years keeping a weekly phone appointment with
- 21:10Speaker 1: a retired social worker every Wednesday at nine in the evening,
- 21:15Speaker 1: because having a standing call meant having a reason to
- 21:18Speaker 1: believe the search was not over. A book compiled by
- 21:23Speaker 1: Dorothy Fenn Wazielewski in 1987, printed in a spiral binding,
- 21:29Speaker 1: never digitized, three copies in the world, one missing since 2006.
- 21:36Speaker 1: One restricted to in-person access. One pulled from a Louisiana
- 21:40Speaker 1: river on a February morning. The book was returned to
- 21:43Speaker 1: the Dunmore Parish Library in good condition. That detail lands
- 21:48Speaker 1: differently once you know the whole story. Karen had already
- 21:52Speaker 1: read it. She knew what was in it. She returned
- 21:56Speaker 1: it because that is what you do with a library book.
- 21:59Speaker 1: And then she placed it on hold again. And so
- 22:03Speaker 1: did her brother. And the universe of coincidence, that word implies,
- 22:08Speaker 1: does not quite cover what actually happened. Which was 40
- 22:12Speaker 1: years of two people refusing to stop. There is something
- 22:16Speaker 1: that resists clean resolution here. The mechanism of the taking,
- 22:20Speaker 1: the specific arrangement, the road travelled, the hands that passed
- 22:24Speaker 1: a child from one life into another, is not confirmed
- 22:28Speaker 1: and may never be. What Sylvia Norris knew, she kept
- 22:32Speaker 1: until she could not. What Roy Pitts knew, he kept
- 22:36Speaker 1: until he died. The gap in the record is real,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and it will likely stay that way. But Karen Bauer
- 22:42Speaker 1: knew her name. She had known it for eight years.
- 22:46Speaker 1: She had been walking toward this for eight years, and
- 22:49Speaker 1: so had David, and they met in Memphis in late
- 22:52Speaker 1: March of 2019, in a city that belonged to neither
- 22:56Speaker 1: of them 40 years. A hold slip, two names on
- 23:00Speaker 1: the same line. This show is made by Obermedia.