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Is Slayer Still Better Than Almost Every Metal Band? · Classic Metal Show

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  SPEAKER_02: Hey there, this is John Gallagher from Raven.
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  SPEAKER_03: With lead boots for Ben Benjamin and Jeff Beck with morning dew for four heady trunk
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  SPEAKER_03: and came off that block.
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  SPEAKER_03: We heard Mata Hoople, one of the boys for Chris by Jackal.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was paying no attention.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: You're not a fan of Mata Hoople?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, no, I'm talking about you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Literally, I had it playing in the headphones.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you started talking and I was like, oh, shit.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know that means that I'm already, you've already been talking for like 30 seconds.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, people that are watching this for the first time that you got a cutoff beginning.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: But you did.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, oh, I got to go live.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like, fuck, what happened here?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, one of the pieces of rock music history that I'm proud to own,
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure you remember this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Black Sabbath was out doing CD signings for The Last Supper.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I went to that and.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, can't get that anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isn't it crazy that Ozzy is like no longer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he signed his and gold.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's more special than the other guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: There it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's a very valuable piece in my collection.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no kidding.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a good piece to have.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a great piece to have.
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  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the crowd at that mall, do you remember what the mall was?
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  SPEAKER_03: It was up there off of 90.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was just,
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  SPEAKER_03: you go up 271 and go 90 east and then you get off at the first exit and there was
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  SPEAKER_03: a mall there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Was that Great Northern?
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  SPEAKER_03: Great Northern Mall.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think you're correct.
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  SPEAKER_03: The crowd was amazingly thick and they were pushing and shoving.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was one of the first times I actually had a panic attack
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  SPEAKER_03: because I was being crushed because literally I couldn't breathe.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was being,
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  SPEAKER_03: because people were pushing and shoving so hard
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  SPEAKER_03: because Black Sabbath was scheduled only to do,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think they were only going to be there like 90 minutes or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: 10,000 people or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they said, oh, well,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: they were trying to encourage people to leave the line because they said,
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  SPEAKER_03: well, you know, they're only going to be here for 10 more minutes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's when people started pushing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because they were just like, well, if I push, maybe the line will go faster.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I literally was back to chest with people and it was crushing the air out of me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, but then they said, everybody relax.
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  SPEAKER_03: They agreed to stay for another hour.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know.
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  SPEAKER_03: But, but I literally was panicking because I was crushing,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: cause my,
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember that,
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  SPEAKER_03: like I was being just like the air was being pushed right out of me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I could not breathe because everybody was crushing forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: You never were a mosh pit guy, were you?
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Guys, I say that's every show.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty much every
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  SPEAKER_03: show I ever went to.
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  SPEAKER_03: But this was a packed meet and greet thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And people were just like freaking out because they made the announcement
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  SPEAKER_03: that Black Sabbath was leaving.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they were just like, holy fuck.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it was just all of a sudden.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it happened so quickly.
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  SPEAKER_03: It just kind of,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: it just reminded me of that whole who thing that happened down in Cincinnati.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I thought the same thing when we did the Pantera meet and greet.
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  SPEAKER_02: When everybody started chanting riot and banging on the windows,
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like, holy fuck, someone's going to die.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And literally,
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  SPEAKER_02: we were all in the store talking about we're going to run out the back door and keep
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  SPEAKER_02: on running.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fuck the store.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were like, we are not stopping.
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  SPEAKER_03: We are getting the fuck out of here.
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  SPEAKER_03: That shit happens so quickly that there's really nothing you can do about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Dude, probably the worst I ever got beat up like that was Day on the Green.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I went to Day on the Green, because what they did was they fenced off.
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  SPEAKER_01: The infield was at Oakland where the A's used to play.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it was at Oakland.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was that place called?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oakland County Coliseum or Alameda County or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they fenced off the infield so that you couldn't tear up the infield.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the whole outfield, they kind of catty cornered the stage.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that it was like in right field kind of and facing outward and the whole outfield
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  SPEAKER_01: of a major league baseball stadium was a mosh pit.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was fucking nuts.
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  SPEAKER_01: And by the time Metallica came on, I mean, people were crying.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was getting just beat to shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I got beat up so bad at that show and, um,
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember when I got home,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's weird the dumb things you remember,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I get home and I remember I was wearing a pair
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  SPEAKER_01: of purple John Lennon-like sunglasses at this thing and I lost those.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember when Motley was touring on Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Feelgood and Vince Neil was wearing the red and white spider shirts?
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  SPEAKER_01: They were black shirts with red spider webs or white spider webs.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember those?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was wearing a red spider shirt and a pair of spandex,
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  SPEAKER_02: long spandex pants, dressed like a fucking idiot.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember I got home and
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  SPEAKER_02: it was probably four or five in the morning by
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  SPEAKER_02: the time I got home.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Georgetta was there and she's like, what the fuck?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why were you so late?
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  SPEAKER_02: I thought you were dead.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, the normal shit.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just remember I was talking to her.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was telling her about how great the show was or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like, it was the best fucking time ever.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I kind of turned around to get like a different shirt or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I took off that shirt and she's like, what the fuck happened to you?
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  SPEAKER_03: Were you all bruised up?
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  SPEAKER_01: I was like, my back looked like I was wearing a black t-shirt.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you were like Pyle in,
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  SPEAKER_03: what's that movie?
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, not Heartbreak Ridge.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know what you're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: God damn it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Where they beat them with the soap.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Been there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Full metal jacket.
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  SPEAKER_01: Full metal jacket, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been there with the fucking blanket party with the soap, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: That ain't fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's not fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Especially when you get hit in the face.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not so bad getting hit in the stomach or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can handle that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But man, when you take a fucking bar of soap to the face, that hurts.
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  SPEAKER_01: But.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Hardy Boy, there's plenty of pictures of me.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you go onto my own personal Facebook and
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  SPEAKER_01: look at the photos,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's plenty of pictures of me in spandex.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was in spandex wearing fruit.
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  SPEAKER_03: And to Jackal's credit, it was the Mentor Mall.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: So thank you, Jackal.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was there
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  SPEAKER_02: as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Of course he was.
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  SPEAKER_02: In 1969 when they were signing the first album.
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  SPEAKER_01: When they first opened.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they were building them all.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jim was there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Too funny.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's talk about some old bands, shall we?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Slayer played at Rock, Oklahoma last
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  SPEAKER_03: week.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they played in Minnesota.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're playing a handful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Getting ready to play
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  SPEAKER_01: more, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're playing a handful of dates.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: Five or six years ago when Slayer quote unquote called it a day,
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  SPEAKER_03: they retired, end of the line, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was just thinking about this today.
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  SPEAKER_03: I saw them two years ago already when I went.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was just like, Jesus Christ, these four guys make a lot of noise.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they do.
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  SPEAKER_03: For four guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just amazing the amount of power that Slayer
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  SPEAKER_03: makes with four dudes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they are vicious, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: Always have been, too.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: And to be honest, what you see now, not as vicious as it used to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know, but
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  SPEAKER_02: still, it's impressive.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: How many times have you seen them?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: You've only seen them in the recent years, right?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't see them in the 90s or the 80s or anything, did you?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't go,
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: but I've seen them before they retired and then, of course, since they've come back.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean,
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: seeing them,
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_02: one of my all-time, all-time favorite shows was that Clash of the Titans show.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: The House of Chains show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think it was at the Cow Palace there in San Francisco.
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  SPEAKER_02: Might have been at Shoreline.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember which one.
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  SPEAKER_01: But holy shit.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: It must have been the Cow Palace because it was indoors.
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  SPEAKER_01: And holy shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the first three bands were heavy as fuck.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly, like House of Chains, nobody knew who they were.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: And they just came out and ripped the place down.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then Anthrax was Anthrax.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: They were just, you know, that was on Persistence of Time, which is one of their great albums.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: And Scott Ian had the big clock behind him that was spinning the wrong way,
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: and he's like moshing around on that stuff.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: It was cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a great set.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then, obviously, Megadeth was Megadeth, and that was, you know, Rust in Peace.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, you were on some huge records there.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then comes Slayer.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: Seasons of the Abyss tour.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
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• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like all of a sudden the room started filling up with smoke
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: and it just didn't stop filling up with smoke.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: They just kept pumping smoke, pumping smoke until you couldn't really see much of the room.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of the lights switched off and then into red.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: And the whole set was all red.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's blood red all the time.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: Slayer just
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  SPEAKER_01: came out.
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  SPEAKER_01: They came out and slayed.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, it was just,
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: I saw more people coming out of this thing,
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: like coming out of the mosh pit with bloodied faces and bloodied heads because
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: the mosh pit was fucking intense.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I was in it.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was right down in the middle of it getting the shit kicked out of me
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: and it was brutal hard.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean,
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: their music and they're just,
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: you've seen them even now with Gary Holt instead of Hanneman.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: They are relentless.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: They are.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is just song after song after song after song.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: There's not a whole bunch of, hey, how's everybody doing tonight?
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: How's the Slayer fam?
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the whole thing about their performance.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: If you watch Gary Holt or even,
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: you know, Cary King or Tom Araya, the They just, it just seems effortless.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they,
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: they just,
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_03: even you,
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_03: you would think that the way that Tom Uriah sings,
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: you think he was straining,
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: but he just makes it look like it's nothing to just growl into that microphone
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  SPEAKER_03: and just bark out the lyrics.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's a little easier for him now.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not, believe me, I'm not trying to take anything away from what you're saying here.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I agree.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: But I think it is a little bit easier for him now that he's not headbanging
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: and doing the hair twirling and shit that he did forever.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's because he wrecked his back.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: He tore up his back.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: But still, he barks out those lyrics effortlessly,
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: you know?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: I just remember back in the day at the end of the shows,
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: he looked like he had been standing in a waterfall and And then back then,
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: too, was when they were dropping the blood on.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if they're still doing that or not,
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: but they just had buckets of blood up in the roof.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And when they played Rain and Blood, just dropped down on the band.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: It was raining blood in a lacerated sky.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: It was fucking awesome, dude.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: I can tell you that was another one of those great shows.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was weird interviewing them.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: Remember when I interviewed them in person for that?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yebo TV.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yebo TV.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sitting in front of each one of them.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: We did each interview individually and they couldn't have been nicer all but Carrie.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Carrie's always Carrie, but the rest of them, they couldn't have been nicer.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then a half hour later, an hour later, they're just like, I'm like, holy shit.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Where'd these guys come from?
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: I was looking for them when I was doing the interviews.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a big, I love Slayer, man.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: I always have.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Even the albums people don't like, I like.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Diabolus in America, whatever.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's listenable.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: The one with Jihad, Christ Inversion.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Don't hate it.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I love me some Slayer.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they're back, obviously.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: They're back doing tours.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: Or semi.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Would you call these tours or just scattered dates?
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_03: I would call them limited engagements.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Seems like they're doing a couple every couple of years.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like four, five, six shows.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like isn't this run like six shows maybe?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just a handful of shows.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I saw them at Fyre Fest two years ago already.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: And it was, it was a,
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: What do you want to call
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: a, it was an assault on all of your senses.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Eyes, ears, you could feel it.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: It was just an assault on your senses.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: It was amazing.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: And even like the pyro is so fucking hot, you feel that.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I was literally a couple hundred feet back and I could feel the pyro all
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: the way back there.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it is a different kind of show.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know everybody talks about the intensity of it,
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: and Metallica in the day,
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: and I mean in the day,
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: like before even Justice,
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: Ride the Lightning,
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Master of Puppets Day, is the only band I've ever seen more intense than Slayer.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: But Slayer...
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: 45 years later is every bit as
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: intense as they were when I saw them in 1986
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: or whatever it was,
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: when I saw them on
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Rain and Blood or,
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: in the earliest days of Slayer when I,
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: or my earliest days of Slayer, not the earliest days of them.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean,
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: they are the one,
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: like I said before, there are no, hey friends, how's the family tonight?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: None of that.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: And again,
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Tom Aurea,
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: when I saw him two years ago,
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think this was on maybe the second or maybe it was the debut show.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know,
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: the reason I went to,
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Fyre Fest was,
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: it's not Fyre Fest,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: but regardless,
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: I saw them here in Chicago was because they hadn't been around in five or six years
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: because they quote unquote retired.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_03: And I was just like, I got to go see Slayer.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: I got to go see these guys, right?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: And he just had such a wry sense of humor about it.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, did you miss us?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, yeah.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for coming out tonight.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Did you miss us?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: They're just so good live, man, but.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: I have a few questions about it.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: We'll play some of this stuff because they're...
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Considering they're not a full-time band, they are better than most full-time bands.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: They're just better.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: I agree.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: They sound better.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: They're playing better than I think they ever have.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they've had a lot of rest.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they're fresh.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: They're not worn out by the road.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: They're not worn out by recording.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_03: They're not...
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_03: You know, doing, making the business of Slayer.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: and again,
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: over two years ago already,
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: I hate to say that,
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: but Cary King was releasing or pursuing his own band, the Cary King Band.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: With... Mark Asagueda.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, from... Death Angel.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Death Angel, which sounded a lot like Slayer.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: And now all of a sudden...
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: The core guys of Slayer are back doing a handful of shows,
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: and that kind of put the kibosh on Kerry King's thing.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: He's working on that.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: There's a second album coming out.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, but the thing is, it hasn't been that active.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: And nobody cared, because he put out that From Hell I Rise, or whatever it was called.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good record.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's not great, but it's a pretty darn good record.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like Slayer.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like Slayer.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: But then the minute they announced the shows...
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: The Slayer shows?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody cared.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was fucking forgotten.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it's Slayer.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: You can see Slayer.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: You can see a Slayer knockoff with one guy.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: What are you going to go?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to go see Slayer.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: You'll take six Slayer shows over a hundred Cary King shows.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you just will.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's just better.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: My question is, they've been doing it now.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: They've been doing it so well now.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think there's talk about trying to do something again,
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: or are they just retired other than playing a few shows every couple of years?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking that they're asking price,
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: whatever that is, is enough to say the Slayer fans are going to be there for us.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_03: If we do a half a dozen shows a year,
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: that's going to pay More than what we would do if we would put out a record
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: and go tour.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so it's just like...
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: But you don't think they...
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's weird.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Ariya's been releasing music since he was 18 years old.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's weird to think that he's done creating.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the thing is, is what is the value of creating anything new today?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: It would just be personal, I guess.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: I guess.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: I just think for me, and I mean, you're around bands more than I am on the road.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: I would think that the nostalgia thing plays itself out.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it is only six shows,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: it's still six shows of the same shit they've been playing for 25 years.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm going to tell you something,
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: and this surprises me as much as the statement I'm going to make.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: I was out with Dokken in Florida for two shows about three or four weeks ago.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: The fact that George Lynch can come out and play three songs at the end of
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: the Dokken set,
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: people are still stoked about that,
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: even though they've been doing this for six years.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but that's the fans.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about the band.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the band, I think all they care about is they can just show up.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: And here's the thing.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who's behind their production.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: But, man, they do a good job.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who designed their set or their stage props or where the fire comes out
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: or where the video, the multimedia shit is, who designs all that.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: But...
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's not cheap.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure that's not cheap, but somebody is paying the bill for that.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: They got to be upper tier as far as their asking price because they're not an active band.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're not an active band,
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: but somebody is willing to pay the price to have this stage show with all the fire
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: and the video and all that shit that they do to make it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: This is what reminds me of Kiss.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know,
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: KISS always went with the whole pyrotechnic thing and they go,
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: you asked for the best,
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: you got the best,
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: it's KISS,
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: and they have this big show and this big,
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: KISS is not the most proficient band in the world,
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: as far as like musicianship and everything,
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: but because the show is so big, it kind of just works.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: No, I get that.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is,
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: aren't they Kiss,
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: even Kiss,
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: right up until they quit,
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: was putting out new music and doing one or two songs during the set.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: They were playing modern-day Delilah
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: and shit like that.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I think Slayer,
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: and I think it's mostly Tom or Raya,
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think he's kind of like,
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: well, you know, I'd kind of be happy to work on my ranch in Arizona, you know?
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: Herding sheep or whatever the fuck he does.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, whatever he's doing.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: But he's not that old.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: He's 60, what, 62 or something?
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it's just like, okay, I've been retired for five or six years now.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: I can do a half a dozen shows.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: And put seven or eight figures in his bank.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: And look at the crowd that shows up for this.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if they were to come through the Chicago area as much as I hate Chicago,
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: I would go again because it's just an assault on your senses.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's just amazing.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad that I've seen them a zillion and five times.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: But the only negative to all those times I've seen them, it's always the same set.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's been very similar set since
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: God Hates Us All, so 2001.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's really when they stopped adjusting the set a lot.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean,
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: this tour, I mean,
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: they are adjusting the set because they're playing Rain and Blood in its entirety,
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: which is cool.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I've heard...
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that they didn't play skeletons of society in a couple of shows.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_03: And people were kind of disappointed about that.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the whole thing, though.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: You played a whole album of something.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Something's getting cut.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it does.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: and I mean, look,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: me and you,
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: we'd be happy if they just played fucking Season of the Abyss from start to finish
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: and then left.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't even care.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even need to hear Angel of Death or Rain and Blood or any of those songs anymore.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Just give me seasons from start to finish, and I'm good.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be good.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Would you?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's a, what, seven-minute song?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm talking about the whole album.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you mean the whole album?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: The whole album.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, of course.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: That would be enough for me.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to see.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: I certainly don't need to hear Bloodline anymore.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to hear, you know, Jihad or 213 or any of those.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to hear those songs.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: I like it as a good change-up.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, me with my serial killer obsession.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: I like here in 213, the whole Dahmer thing.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, I mean,
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: other than that, though,
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: if you gave me a choice of what they're playing now and what they played in 1991,
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: it's a no-brainer.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'd take the 91 set.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit about anything they released after it,
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: enough to be like, damn, how come they're
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: not adding that?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: But it's weird to think of Slayer.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: And this is where I'm going with this.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's weird for me to think of Slayer as a finished entity that is now just
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: a fucking nostalgia act.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: And they are.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they are.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: They're a limited run thing.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: And because they're limited run,
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: half a dozen shows in a year, People are going to, I don't want to miss that.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Holy shit, it's Slayer.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: They're back.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: They haven't been around in six or seven years or whatever it is.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: And they're only playing six shows in the U.S. Yeah.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: And what is also helping them is that they're playing at the top level.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because Lord knows if David Lee Roth announced tomorrow
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: that he was playing six shows, limited run, no one's going.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Because there's so much video of him sucking.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: And Slayer's been away for a while.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's it too.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: That does help them.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a good, good minute since they released music and, um, and even toured really.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you got lucky to go see them, but again, it was limited engagement.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Unless you're willing to travel,
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: you really didn't see them,
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: you know, unless you were in LA or New York or Chicago.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: And they only played the big festival shows because,
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: because they played, um,
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: They played the show here two years ago,
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: and then I think last year that they played that show in Kentucky.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Louder Than Life.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: So they're only selecting these major events to play.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think they could do, and I'm talking on a very limited basis,
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: are they big enough that they could play Three stadiums.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Chicago, LA, New York.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: God, can you imagine seeing them in a stadium?
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: But see, the thing is, is Rush has been away for a while.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: And they're doing well with their big shows.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so that's the whole thing.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, well, we've been gone for, you know, half a decade.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: So we're going to do...
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Sick shows this year.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: Here's where they are.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_03: You miss us, you miss us.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think they're going to continue this?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like two years from now, they'll play all of, I don't know, seasons or whatever.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: God, if they do that, that's a travel show.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_03: But I think their asking price is probably pretty good.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: And they can draw the fans.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: How much would you be willing?
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: We were talking earlier about the crazy price of tickets.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: How much are you willing to go if the show is Seasons in the Abyss start to finish
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: and then some Slayer songs behind it?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Even if it's just like four songs behind it?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: $250.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: $250?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: I got a feeling you wouldn't get into that show.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: Well, again, I'm just telling you what I'm willing to pay.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, I get it.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think the tickets would be that low, do you?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: No, but I'm just telling you
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: what I'm willing to pay.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:37
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• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Get the two-disc vinyl set right now, available at the bottom of your screen.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Anthrax, Curseum Perficia, September 18th.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: This is the one you've been waiting for.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: It'd be great if they just put back together the Clash of the Titans lineup again.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Alice in Chains, Anthra.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're all still active.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine how expensive that would be,
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: though, in today's dollars to get Alice in Chains, Megadeth, and Slayer on one bill?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Megadeth, I don't think would be that expensive.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, I mean,
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: I see Megadeth
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: opening for a lot of bands that's almost embarrassing
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: when they're opening for Five Finger Death Punch or whatever.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's You know, their stock has gone down.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think Dave Mustaine changing out musicians,
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: you know, like their fucking underwear has really taken its toll on that band.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think even promoters do not hold the Megadeth name because they know the fans don't.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: Because they don't have any connection.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they know the fans don't either.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: The fans, every fan you talk to is like, ah, it's just a Dave Mustaine solo band.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody considers it Megadeth anymore.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's like Wasp.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's Blackie Wallace and his guys.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's a lot of them.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's like your boys in Dokken.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's Don and his boys.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, that's what it is.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I even say that myself.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_03: I say I'm going out with the Dokken boys.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's not.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's not Dokken.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's been a solid lineup for years, but it's not.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: What people remember.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: It ain't been that many years either.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's been, what, eight, nine years or whatever?
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's been longer than that.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Has it?
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: Because, I mean, we saw him with McNabb and there was Mark Bowles.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: But that was 2013, though.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Time is just zipping.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've seen different lineups here and there.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: But this lineup since Mick retired has been together since 2017.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: So nine years.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: So almost 10 years.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: God, that's crazy to even think about that Mick has been retired for 10 years.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, anyway,
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: pulling back to Slayer,
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: I just was – I'm – I'm stunned that they are still as big as they are.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: I wish the other bands that are out there,
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm talking top down,
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Metallica down, would watch these videos and say, this is what we need to be doing.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because they are so much better than anybody not named Testament in the In the landscape.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I think they're probably better than Testament too right now.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they are proverbially and literally on fire on these shows, man.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: They are.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Let's play a little, but,
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: but they're not,
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: they're not overplayed and they're not tired and you know,
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: they don't, they don't do a tour cycle.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: They, they play six shows and they're done.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Go home rich, fat and See you guys in two years.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think Slayer commands as a performance price?
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think their price is?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Got to be a hundred and a half or more.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I think it's higher than that.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's 250.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: It could be.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's 250.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's my guess.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_03: I have no inside knowledge about this, but I'm thinking quarter mil.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: Could easily be that.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Could be a mil.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: Could be.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they are the headliner
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_03: whenever they play.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: But my realistic thought, I'm thinking $250.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: So even at $250,
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: six shows,
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: a million and a half,
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: split between two guys and then paying two guys as salaried guys?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that wouldn't suck.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's a pretty good summer vacation.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: To play six shows?
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's a pretty good summer vacation.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: Go out for two or three weeks.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're done.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Another half million in the bank.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: That would not suck.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's watch a little Slayer, just because...
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: Don't even have any real reason to watch it other than it's Slayer.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: I like
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: to see it.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: I sent you a video the other day when they were playing in Minneapolis.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I think my comment was, it's hard to believe four guys can make this much noise.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're just pummeling, man.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Let's check it out.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: Here's some Slayer.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus Christ.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: I twist, the myth to
• 36:55
  pay,
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: the way that I want you to die.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Through death, immensely gay, shout the clergy of your lord.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to say, if you're holding a camera, don't sing.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: You're ruining your own video.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: That's the whole thing.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: When I take video at shows so you can post it for the fans, I am so...
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Cognizant of holding that camera or the phone still and trying
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: to get you some good quality video instead of like doing this whole.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, like this guy, he's headbanging and his camera's headbanging with him.
• 37:51
  I know.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like I try to hold the phone as still as I can.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: And get you some nice, clean audio without going.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, without being all over the place.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: And here we go, a little more Slayer.
• 38:10
  The
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: darkness!
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: ... ... ... ... ... ...
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: They just sound great.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know what makes me laugh?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: What's that?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: Is that a couple of things.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, if you watch Gary Holt and Kerry King together, they're just so relaxed.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: They're just doing their whatever.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: And they're just playing some ugly riffs together.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then Tom Araya, he's singing all these...
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: Demonic lyrics and shit.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: But from what I understand,
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: and again,
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know Tom at all, but because Eric Braverman, he knows Tom very well.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: Tom is like a devout Catholic.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: He's like a hardcore devout Catholic,
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: but yet he goes out there and just barks out these demonic lyrics.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's the funniest goddamn thing.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like you go out there and entertain,
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_03: tens of thousands of people in a crowd
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: and you're out there barking out these hardcore demonic lyrics.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: But yet in your real life, you're kind of a devout Catholic.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: In your business life,
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: you're selling sin and in your
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: real life, you're asking forgiveness for it, I guess.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_03: He's got fire and blood.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_03: Upside down crosses.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_03: Mayhem just happening behind you.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_03: And again, when he sings, he's not out there just straining, you know, singing or whatever.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's just sort of so natural for him.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Holt's probably the luckiest guy in the world because,
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: especially right now,
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: he's got
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: to be thrilled to be getting these gigs because
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: that fucking Goliath record just stiffed.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, very mixed reviews on it.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: It did not hold well at all.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: I like it personally, but I mean, it's certainly the weakest of the Duke's era.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: So he's probably thrilled to be out here playing some Slayer stuff
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: where people are real into it.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I've run it,
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_03: you know, our good friend, Bob Nalbandian, he was, you know, friends with Gary Holt.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_03: And when I would go to NAMM and Bob would be leaving the pack per se,
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: I've run into Gary a couple of times and taken pictures with him and stuff.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_03: And he is just sort of like a really meek guy.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: He's just like really just, you know, just very, very kind.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_03: Almost shy.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's accurate.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I still remember when I got the ID.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: You have it there somewhere, the one about the porn.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it goes about the porn.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I had written it down,
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: and he looked at it, and he goes, I don't really
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: want to read this one.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, come on, man.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: You're fucking Gary Holt from Exodus.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_02: So he did it, but then he does the whole, I don't know about that.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's pretty funny.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have that one?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to see if I can see here.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: He did one for Midweek Mayhem when you used to do your Midweek Mayhem show.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'll check this out here.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: This is Gary Holt from Exodus,
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: and you're listening to the only thing on the web better than porn.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's Midweek Mayhem.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know about that.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about that.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: I just remember handing him the card and he just looked at me like, what is wrong with you?
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: They were all nice.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: I will say the Exodus boys are some of the nicest guys.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: We really enjoyed talking to Zetro.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Love Zetro.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: Love Zet.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: Love Dukes.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I remember when, when I did rock on the range, I talked to Jack Gibson.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: He came over and did an interview with me.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: I've interviewed Holt, obviously a couple of times.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: I've really kind of conquered that band.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: I had Rick Honnold on.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: You remember me from Exodus and you are listening to the classic metal show.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: So turn it up to 11.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: And here's Rob Dukes.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: This is Rob Dukes of Exodus.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_03: You're listening to the Classic Metal Show.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: I think I woke him up.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, short and to the point.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's fine.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_03: Good stuff.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: You want to watch a little more Slayer?
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see some more Slayer.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to watch the light, though.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: Let me get out of the light.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: Just pop it in at random.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: Just fucking destroy, man.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: Not bad for some 60-year-old guys.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_02: When so many other bands are sounding like ass, you can go see Slayer.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: They certainly are sounding great.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, a few more shows.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: Get out there.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_02: If they're coming near you,
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: you better go see them because it definitely
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: seems like it's worth the investment
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: to go.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: This is one that I will definitely...
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Endorse spending a couple of extra shekels.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: I hope they come to Cleveland at some point.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: I will definitely go see that again.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to see Slayer one more time.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: John Darless says, Fear Factory with Slayer, probably the loudest concert I've ever attended.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't doubt that.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder when that was.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember seeing that show.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it wasn't here.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think I would have, I certainly would have been at that.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Two of my favorite bands.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually interviewing Bert from Fear Factory Fame on Monday.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: Chatting with him as well.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: Getting my sea legs back under me.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: Look at you.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Bert and C. Bell.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: Getting my sea legs.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: See what I did there?
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: Told a bad joke.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I did.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's when you have to go, well, I enjoyed it.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's one of the best ones I've heard tonight, that's for sure.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, at least I enjoyed it.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: Please.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: I wish we were like O&A and I had a car crash ready to go.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because that was definitely a car crash moment.
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