Latest / The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine / Camille Contreras: NOVELISTS
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- 0:21Speaker 1: Hmm, Hey, we've got Neil from Novelists, super excited to
- 0:32Speaker 1: chat with you. Camil, You've kind of got an interesting
- 0:35Speaker 1: history both novelists and then your your kind of personal
- 0:38Speaker 1: history with novelists is really interesting.
- 0:41Speaker 2: But you guys got a new album coming out soon.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm sure you're just like jam packed with lots of
- 0:46Speaker 1: things going on with novelists. But uh, before we dive
- 0:49Speaker 1: into all the novelists stuff, how are you doing today?
- 0:52Speaker 3: Really good. I'm actually at my laboratory working and also
- 0:57Speaker 3: doing interviews and yeah, it's I'm doing It's very cool.
- 1:01Speaker 2: What Yeah, like, what do you what do you do there?
- 1:04Speaker 2: What's your what's your role?
- 1:05Speaker 3: So I'm a chemist engineer and I create my own
- 1:09Speaker 3: cosmetics laboratory, and to be honest, I'm like trying to
- 1:14Speaker 3: finish all my contracts with my clients because I cannot
- 1:17Speaker 3: handle a double life. Like I feel like I'm, you know,
- 1:21Speaker 3: Hannah Montana having a double life, and you know, I
- 1:24Speaker 3: have to quit a life.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I love that.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I can't imagine that there's too many chemistry engineers that
- 1:32Speaker 1: are in like the metal ste like that.
- 1:35Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if you've encountered more than I have.
- 1:37Speaker 2: But I can't imagine there's too many.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I don't know another chemist engineer, to be honest.
- 1:43Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's super cool that you do that work
- 1:45Speaker 2: as well. Well. Let's talk about your music side of
- 1:48Speaker 2: your life.
- 1:49Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's clearly a chemistry side of your life,
- 1:51Speaker 1: but love to talk about your music side.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Of your life.
- 1:54Speaker 1: So yeah, before we dive into like how you got
- 1:56Speaker 1: involved with novelists and just kind of your history with them, Yeah,
- 2:00Speaker 1: like how did you get into music?
- 2:01Speaker 2: Like what what inspired you to get into music? So?
- 2:05Speaker 3: I I come from a Spanish family and music is
- 2:08Speaker 3: really important for us, especially like Flamenco music and with
- 2:14Speaker 3: guitars and and pursuit and like you know, drums and
- 2:18Speaker 3: stuff like that. So since I'm a little girl, I
- 2:22Speaker 3: I danced and I play with with my brothers, cousins, dad, mom,
- 2:28Speaker 3: and I played piano and violoncello. After that I learned
- 2:33Speaker 3: a music theory also, and I always sing like since
- 2:38Speaker 3: I remember, and but I wasn't in a in a
- 2:42Speaker 3: metal scene before. And I went to UH to a
- 2:47Speaker 3: hardcore punk show and that was like you know, the
- 2:51Speaker 3: across and and then I decided to create a punk
- 2:55Speaker 3: hardcore and I started to listen to the like, you know,
- 2:59Speaker 3: heavy musics, and I discover after I don't know five
- 3:04Speaker 3: years of listening to punk hardcore, I discovered metal music.
- 3:09Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, I created like a punk hardcore
- 3:12Speaker 3: band before and after that ten years after I joined novelists.
- 3:19Speaker 2: That's amazing, Like what a career like already? Yeah? What
- 3:23Speaker 2: like what was it.
- 3:25Speaker 1: About punk and hardcore and metal music that just like
- 3:28Speaker 1: made you fall in love with it? Because obviously, like
- 3:29Speaker 1: that's way different music than like probably what you were
- 3:32Speaker 1: listening to when you're really young, So like, what was
- 3:35Speaker 1: it about punk and hardcore and metal that just was like,
- 3:39Speaker 1: this is what I want to be involved in.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I really I really loved the at first. I really
- 3:44Speaker 3: loved the ambience during the shows, like people going wild.
- 3:49Speaker 3: You cannot see that in the mainstream show or you know,
- 3:53Speaker 3: like pop music. You can see that now nowadays a
- 3:57Speaker 3: little bit more than before, but people are just you know,
- 4:00Speaker 3: watching and not moving at all, But in a PENK
- 4:02Speaker 3: heartcore show, they are really giving their lives to the show.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And also I really liked the strategy movement. So I
- 4:12Speaker 3: started to get more interested in PENK hardcore and I
- 4:17Speaker 3: was doing a lot of you know, classical music and
- 4:21Speaker 3: classical shows and also pop shows. And I was always
- 4:27Speaker 3: a little bit scared of going on stage because there
- 4:29Speaker 3: was too much pressure. And when I did my first
- 4:33Speaker 3: screaming show, like hardcore show, I was really stressed before.
- 4:37Speaker 3: And the first step I made on stage and the
- 4:40Speaker 3: first scream I did, all the stress was you know gone,
- 4:44Speaker 3: and uh, and I just enjoyed it and I was like, Okay,
- 4:47Speaker 3: now this is really what I want to do now.
- 4:50Speaker 3: And yeah, I think it's the energy, the vibe and
- 4:54Speaker 3: the freedom. Also a little bit cheesy to see that,
- 4:56Speaker 3: but yeah.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I love that. How did you learn how to scream?
- 5:01Speaker 1: Because, like you know, typically people just like don't learn
- 5:04Speaker 1: how to scream like naturally.
- 5:05Speaker 2: So how did you learn how to scream?
- 5:07Speaker 3: Well, I'm a self made screamer. I started in my
- 5:12Speaker 3: car in a highway, windows closed, and I tried to
- 5:16Speaker 3: just scream, you know little. I started to like imitate
- 5:20Speaker 3: the bands that I was listening to, and I tried
- 5:22Speaker 3: to scream and I and I was looking at no
- 5:25Speaker 3: one was looking at me because I didn't want to
- 5:28Speaker 3: be weird or scary to people, and uh, and I
- 5:32Speaker 3: tried to find the scream that didn't hurt my voice
- 5:35Speaker 3: because I wanted to still be able to sing in
- 5:38Speaker 3: clean vocals. So yeah, basically I just learned by myself.
- 5:44Speaker 3: And now that I joined Novelist, I watched like, you know,
- 5:49Speaker 3: YouTube tutorials and stuff too warm up the voice and
- 5:52Speaker 3: try to find difference and understand how the scream is working.
- 5:59Speaker 2: At what point did you realize you're like, I'm good
- 6:01Speaker 2: at this, Like you.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Know, when you first start out doing something right, like
- 6:05Speaker 1: you realize like, I've got a lot to learn and everything.
- 6:08Speaker 1: But at some point you must have learned, and maybe
- 6:10Speaker 1: it was pretty early on, but at some point you
- 6:12Speaker 1: must have gotten to a point where you're like, wait,
- 6:14Speaker 1: like I like, I could do this in front of
- 6:16Speaker 1: a lot of people and people would enjoy it. Like
- 6:18Speaker 1: you must have learned that at some point that you
- 6:20Speaker 1: were good enough for.
- 6:21Speaker 3: That right for the scream to be honest, I watched
- 6:24Speaker 3: I think the first show I did. It was in
- 6:27Speaker 3: a you know, reheusal local, like you know, the place
- 6:32Speaker 3: we were rehearsaling. And when I watched this video, I
- 6:36Speaker 3: feel so ashamed because it was really bad and I
- 6:39Speaker 3: was and I was confident that it was good, but
- 6:42Speaker 3: it was not so I think it's more like be
- 6:44Speaker 3: confident of what you do, even even if it's bad,
- 6:48Speaker 3: and people would think it's cool, and I think, I
- 6:51Speaker 3: don't know, it's just yeah, I improve a lot my
- 6:55Speaker 3: screaming level, even though when I joined novelists, my screams
- 7:00Speaker 3: we're not that good as they are now. So I
- 7:01Speaker 3: think everyone can improve more and more.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there's like so many things you can
- 7:08Speaker 1: do to just like practice and get better. And yeah,
- 7:11Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize, like, along
- 7:14Speaker 1: with singing, right, like there's all sorts of singing coaches
- 7:16Speaker 1: and you learn how to sing well, the same thing
- 7:19Speaker 1: goes with screaming. There might be less of those people
- 7:21Speaker 1: that are like helping you kind of learn how to
- 7:23Speaker 1: scream well. But certainly there is like a practice to screaming. Well,
- 7:28Speaker 1: you know, not everybody is just born with being able
- 7:31Speaker 1: to scream amazingly.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Well I don't know if I scream amazingly, but but yeah,
- 7:38Speaker 3: I think, you know, sometimes when I'm in the in
- 7:41Speaker 3: the studio and I and I'm screaming like recording, and
- 7:46Speaker 3: I feel that this scream, this line that I just
- 7:49Speaker 3: did is really good because you know, you can feel.
- 7:52Speaker 3: It is like emotions. I think when you're screaming, you
- 7:56Speaker 3: can feel. This is what I really like in the
- 7:58Speaker 3: hardcore and post hardcore, like bands like Have Heart or
- 8:04Speaker 3: Led Dispute. Also it's another another style. I really like
- 8:09Speaker 3: the you can feel the emotions really hard, because if
- 8:13Speaker 3: you're just singing clean's vocal, even even if you are
- 8:16Speaker 3: singing sad sad things, but you're singing it with vibes
- 8:21Speaker 3: and stuff, you cannot feel the emotion. But when you're screaming,
- 8:25Speaker 3: you cannot lie Like it's really like you can feel
- 8:28Speaker 3: that the dude from Have Heart he's feeling paid. You
- 8:33Speaker 3: can feel it. So I think that's the most important
- 8:37Speaker 3: too to be a good screamer.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah, I mean without a doubt, like I
- 8:43Speaker 1: think for me, like my favorites both singers and screamers.
- 8:48Speaker 1: My favorites have always been the ones where you can
- 8:50Speaker 1: just see like or you can just hear the emotion
- 8:54Speaker 1: in their scream or they're singing. And even if they're
- 8:56Speaker 1: that most like the most technically sound singers or scream
- 9:00Speaker 1: even if they're not the most technically sound, I like
- 9:03Speaker 1: it as long as it's like you can feel that
- 9:05Speaker 1: emotion in their voice.
- 9:07Speaker 2: That's all that matters to me.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with that.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's I mean there's people like like, did you,
- 9:15Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned law of dispute?
- 9:16Speaker 2: Did you ever get into me without you at all?
- 9:18Speaker 3: Sorry I didn't catch that.
- 9:21Speaker 1: So you you mentioned that you were really you're into
- 9:23Speaker 1: a law dispute. Did you ever listen to a band
- 9:25Speaker 1: another band called Me Without You?
- 9:27Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know this band.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Okay, they're very similar to law Dispute. Okay, Like it's
- 9:33Speaker 1: that and that's kind of same, like voice where it's
- 9:35Speaker 1: like half singing, half yelling, half kind of spoken word
- 9:39Speaker 1: like without me without you all one word, one word.
- 9:46Speaker 1: If you like law dispute, you'll love me without You.
- 9:48Speaker 3: Yeah, either way because it's a French word and you
- 9:53Speaker 3: staying within the shackson.
- 9:56Speaker 2: It's like aggressively American, is how I say American? I
- 10:00Speaker 2: get that for sure. Yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Well but it's like funny how like Yeah, like for
- 10:08Speaker 1: a band like a lot of Spuel or like Me
- 10:10Speaker 1: Without You, where their vocalist might not be the most
- 10:13Speaker 1: like technical in his vocal delivery, but again, it's just
- 10:16Speaker 1: all about the emotions of what he's singing about and
- 10:20Speaker 1: that's like what matters the most, and I think that's
- 10:23Speaker 1: what people gravitate towards.
- 10:25Speaker 2: And that's like why people really love that music.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Is you just hear the motion of it, even if
- 10:30Speaker 1: it's not super technical.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I don't know the band mean
- 10:34Speaker 3: without you, but I know that dispute, that dispute. And
- 10:39Speaker 3: you think that he doesn't have a lot of technique,
- 10:42Speaker 3: but I think that he has a lot of technique
- 10:45Speaker 3: to be able to do that, because, to be honest,
- 10:47Speaker 3: when I started to learn screaming, I tried to imitate.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Also he's yelling like almost crying screams, and I was
- 10:57Speaker 3: not able to do that. Like it's really hard to
- 10:59Speaker 3: do to do this kind of scream and to control
- 11:03Speaker 3: it and not hurt your voice. So yeah, I hope
- 11:07Speaker 3: one day I can be able to to speak with
- 11:10Speaker 3: him and ask him, how do you do? What's your technique?
- 11:13Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 11:14Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like some people where yeah, their ability to
- 11:17Speaker 1: just like control that scream. There's also another like I
- 11:20Speaker 1: don't know, if you ever listen to a band from
- 11:22Speaker 1: Sweden called Blindside, is.
- 11:24Speaker 2: That a there? That's another band to write down there?
- 11:27Speaker 2: They're from Sweden.
- 11:29Speaker 1: But their screamer has this, Like I don't know if
- 11:33Speaker 1: I've really ever heard like another screamer quite be able
- 11:35Speaker 1: to do this, but like in the same note, when
- 11:38Speaker 1: he like maybe first starts to note screaming, you then
- 11:41Speaker 1: can go into singing or vice versa. Wo like his
- 11:45Speaker 1: ability with his voice to do that, Like I think
- 11:47Speaker 1: honestly the only other person I've heard maybe be able
- 11:49Speaker 1: to do that is Chester Bennington from Lincoln Park.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Yeah, that ability to bind.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Blind blindside is the name. It's all one where line side,
- 12:00Speaker 1: all one more. Okay, Yeah, they're from Sweden.
- 12:03Speaker 2: They're great.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Okay, we'll listen to it.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Also, yeah, they're they're wonderful.
- 12:07Speaker 1: So yeah, well, okay, we've talked a lot about the
- 12:10Speaker 1: singing part. I'd love to hear just the story of
- 12:13Speaker 1: how you got involved with Novelists, because what's interesting about
- 12:16Speaker 1: novelists is they've already had two singers in the band,
- 12:20Speaker 1: and so you're the third singer in the band, and
- 12:21Speaker 1: so yeah, what was the whole what's the whole backstory
- 12:24Speaker 1: to how you got involved with the band.
- 12:26Speaker 3: So the whole story is that you know Landmarks, of course,
- 12:33Speaker 3: So when I was eighteen, I was doing a summer
- 12:36Speaker 3: job in like a grocery store and a client asked
- 12:40Speaker 3: me to do an invoice and it was my first
- 12:42Speaker 3: day and I didn't know how to do so I just,
- 12:45Speaker 3: you know, asked the person behind me. I turn around
- 12:48Speaker 3: and it was the drummer Kevin, and we started to
- 12:52Speaker 3: hang out with friends. And he was studying in a
- 12:57Speaker 3: sound and visual school and they needed someone that was
- 13:03Speaker 3: playing violincello to do like a photo exercise. So he
- 13:08Speaker 3: told me, I do want to come to my school
- 13:09Speaker 3: and I will we take picture of you. And I
- 13:12Speaker 3: was like, okay, let's do this. So I went to
- 13:15Speaker 3: the school and the dude it's a long story, and
- 13:18Speaker 3: the dude who was doing the clap for me, he
- 13:21Speaker 3: was playing in a hardcore band in Marseille, south of France,
- 13:24Speaker 3: this is where I came from. And he told me, yay,
- 13:27Speaker 3: do you want to come to a show and see?
- 13:30Speaker 3: And that was the first show I went. The first
- 13:33Speaker 3: hardcore show. It was like in a basement in Marseille.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Maybe they were like twenty people at the show and
- 13:40Speaker 3: it was really cool. And after I started to hang
- 13:44Speaker 3: out with the scene. Like there was also Flow, the
- 13:46Speaker 3: singer of Landmarks and we all had bands, hardcore bands.
- 13:52Speaker 3: My name, My band was named Apache. His previous band
- 13:57Speaker 3: was Hating Front and we were like playing shows together.
- 14:02Speaker 3: And after ten years they started Landmarks. I did a duo,
- 14:07Speaker 3: a duet with Nico, the guitarist from Landmarks. We were
- 14:10Speaker 3: like The band was called Bliss Side and it was
- 14:14Speaker 3: like only clean singing, like ballads in you know, pop
- 14:20Speaker 3: English ballads. And in twenty nineteen Novelists they were friends
- 14:26Speaker 3: with Landmarks already and they were looking for a girl
- 14:29Speaker 3: to do the harmonies of their album Celavi. So they
- 14:32Speaker 3: asked len Marks, hey, do you know a girl that
- 14:34Speaker 3: can sing the harmonies and they were like, yeah, we
- 14:36Speaker 3: know Cami. So I went to Paris to record all
- 14:40Speaker 3: the harmonies of their album and at the end of
- 14:42Speaker 3: the session, they were like, hey, do you want to
- 14:45Speaker 3: do a feature on the on the song Selavi? And
- 14:48Speaker 3: I was like yeah, why not? And so I did
- 14:51Speaker 3: the feature. Then I went back to Marseille and so
- 14:56Speaker 3: I did. Three years after the they just they were
- 15:01Speaker 3: in Marseille and they asked me, hey, do you want
- 15:03Speaker 3: to be the new singer of Novelist And I was
- 15:05Speaker 3: like what, I don't even knew that they will not
- 15:10Speaker 3: have a singer anymore. So I was like, yeah, of course, yeah,
- 15:13Speaker 3: why not. So we did some recording audition, you know,
- 15:18Speaker 3: to see if it can work, see if our creativity
- 15:21Speaker 3: will match, and it was really cool. So we decided
- 15:24Speaker 3: to go to the new into the new chapter of novelists.
- 15:28Speaker 3: And here I am. That's a long story.
- 15:32Speaker 1: That's like it's kind of amazing, how like it's one
- 15:36Speaker 1: of those things where it's just like the people you know,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and like that's how opportunities happen in life. It's not
- 15:41Speaker 1: about I mean obviously to some degree, right, Like you're
- 15:44Speaker 1: extremely talented and that plays a huge part of this,
- 15:47Speaker 1: but like some of these really cool opportunities that we
- 15:50Speaker 1: get in life are maybe a little less about like
- 15:52Speaker 1: your talent and just about like who you know in life.
- 15:55Speaker 1: And yeah, and this is like a classic story about
- 15:57Speaker 1: it seems.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Like do you do you call it also in English
- 16:00Speaker 3: a betterfly effect.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Yeah, something along those lines.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Yeah, like there is a small thing that happens twenty right, yeah.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Yeah, like a small thing that like, yeah, totally changes
- 16:13Speaker 1: the like outcome of a bigger thing exactly.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I really feel it, you know when I when
- 16:19Speaker 3: I when I'm telling this story, I'm like, wow, if
- 16:23Speaker 3: this client didn't ask me for an invoice and I
- 16:26Speaker 3: didn't know how to do it and I asked Kevin
- 16:28Speaker 3: from Landmarks and then you know, like it's a it's
- 16:31Speaker 3: a lot of events that happened and to be here
- 16:34Speaker 3: now that's that's amazing and there is a lot of
- 16:37Speaker 3: opportunities of course, right.
- 16:40Speaker 2: That's so cool.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Yeah, what what has like that creativity process been like
- 16:44Speaker 1: for you guys? Like you know that obviously this isn't
- 16:47Speaker 1: the first time that they're exploring a new.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Sound and writing with a new vocalist, but yeah, what
- 16:54Speaker 2: like what what what.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Do you what do you like about the writing process
- 16:58Speaker 1: and the creativity process with For.
- 17:01Speaker 3: Me, it's like being in a laboratory, you know, like
- 17:03Speaker 3: we are experiencing a lot of different things, even though
- 17:07Speaker 3: sometimes it's a little bit weird, but we are open
- 17:10Speaker 3: to like putting a lot of ideas even though they
- 17:13Speaker 3: are not good, so we can we can find one
- 17:16Speaker 3: that it's really good. And we are really trying to
- 17:19Speaker 3: be different even though everyone is trying to be different,
- 17:22Speaker 3: but we try to shop people. We try to do
- 17:25Speaker 3: something different that we did before, and if it sounds
- 17:28Speaker 3: or looks like something we already did before, we just
- 17:31Speaker 3: put it in the trash and we tried something new.
- 17:34Speaker 3: And since Pierre joined the band, he's also really creative
- 17:38Speaker 3: and he creates a lot of instrumental parts. And then
- 17:44Speaker 3: I go to the studio and I'm trying and I'm
- 17:47Speaker 3: improvising in the in the studio to uh, to try
- 17:51Speaker 3: and find some lights like singing or screaming lights. And
- 17:55Speaker 3: sometimes it's really like, you know, my brains is gonna
- 17:58Speaker 3: be in fire, you know, And I'm just trying really
- 18:02Speaker 3: like different notes even though they are not linked to
- 18:06Speaker 3: each other, to find a good melody. And or we
- 18:10Speaker 3: try ideas we put biloncello in one hour song Morning
- 18:13Speaker 3: the Don't. So Yeah, we try a lot of stuff,
- 18:17Speaker 3: and for this album, we are really proud of it,
- 18:19Speaker 3: but we are already thinking of the next one, and
- 18:22Speaker 3: we want to be more creative than we did on
- 18:24Speaker 3: this one.
- 18:27Speaker 1: What has it been like for you to like be
- 18:31Speaker 1: involved in the creative process with songwriting, especially because I
- 18:35Speaker 1: would imagine like it can maybe feel a little overwhelming
- 18:39Speaker 1: to like be the brand new person in the band
- 18:41Speaker 1: and feel like you are then able to like have
- 18:44Speaker 1: any input, But like, have they been very open to
- 18:46Speaker 1: like you bringing your own ideas, Like have you felt
- 18:49Speaker 1: like very much involved in the songwriting and creativity process
- 18:53Speaker 1: or is it something where you're kind of like still
- 18:55Speaker 1: maybe getting into that groove of like trying to add
- 18:57Speaker 1: your input or your ideas.
- 19:00Speaker 3: So at the they were always really open to my
- 19:03Speaker 3: opinions and they wanted me to to tell too, yeah,
- 19:10Speaker 3: to say on my opinions. And at the very beginning
- 19:14Speaker 3: when I joined the band, the first song we did
- 19:16Speaker 3: was turn it Up, and it was already written, so
- 19:19Speaker 3: I just went on the studio and we did we
- 19:22Speaker 3: record the chorus, and I proposed a new line and
- 19:26Speaker 3: in fact, it's it's now the real line of the
- 19:28Speaker 3: chorus and the previous one is the harmony. We put
- 19:31Speaker 3: it in a harmony. So they were listening to my opinions,
- 19:35Speaker 3: but they were they were like, I was trying to
- 19:38Speaker 3: be you know, low key. I didn't want to impose
- 19:41Speaker 3: my opinions because I was just you know, the new member.
- 19:44Speaker 3: And for this album, I feel that now I have
- 19:47Speaker 3: more power, you know, to propose because we started from
- 19:50Speaker 3: scratch to this album. So there was like it's a
- 19:53Speaker 3: new page. And so did you did you listen to
- 19:57Speaker 3: the album or not yet.
- 20:00Speaker 1: I've been able to listen to the whole thing, but
- 20:01Speaker 1: I've been able to listen to some of those songs
- 20:04Speaker 1: that have been released.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Okay, so there is a song called Marl It's a
- 20:08Speaker 3: song in Spanish, and this one when I propose it,
- 20:13Speaker 3: I know that the boys were not really like into it.
- 20:17Speaker 3: They were like, Okay, that's a little bit strange. And
- 20:19Speaker 3: I think like one or two days after, they're like, Okay,
- 20:22Speaker 3: we're going to do this because this is really cool.
- 20:24Speaker 3: It's really different from what we did before, and really
- 20:28Speaker 3: want to go into this way. So I think I
- 20:32Speaker 3: felt at this moment that there was the switch where
- 20:35Speaker 3: I can be really free to propose whatever I want,
- 20:39Speaker 3: while before I was still a little bit shy to
- 20:41Speaker 3: propose my ideas.
- 20:45Speaker 2: I love that, like, and hopefully, you know, as like.
- 20:48Speaker 1: You continue to be in the band, you'll be able
- 20:52Speaker 1: to include more and more of those ideas. I mean,
- 20:54Speaker 1: you already mentioned like y'all are writing like a new
- 20:56Speaker 1: album already, so I would imagine like you're feeling more
- 20:58Speaker 1: and more comfortable with some of the new ideas and
- 21:01Speaker 1: input you have for even like whatever the next record
- 21:04Speaker 1: would be.
- 21:05Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I feel that. I'm really excited for the
- 21:09Speaker 3: next one. This summer, We're gonna do a lot of festivals,
- 21:12Speaker 3: and there is like one festival weekend and the next
- 21:16Speaker 3: weekend there is another one, and we have a week
- 21:18Speaker 3: but the two festival are you really close? So we
- 21:22Speaker 3: decided to book a house near the festival so we
- 21:25Speaker 3: can start to create new songs. So, yeah, the the
- 21:31Speaker 3: process of creation for the next album has already started.
- 21:35Speaker 3: Even though the album is not out yet, we were
- 21:38Speaker 3: still we still want to create a new song.
- 21:42Speaker 2: It's going all out. It's like a full sprint right now.
- 21:44Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. What is it like
- 21:50Speaker 2: for you?
- 21:51Speaker 1: I've always I'm always curious about this with bands that
- 21:54Speaker 1: were like English isn't their first language? Maybe, or like
- 21:57Speaker 1: maybe they like at least it wasn't their first language,
- 21:59Speaker 1: growing not, What is it like for you to write
- 22:03Speaker 1: lyrics in English?
- 22:04Speaker 2: Well, like, what does that process look like? Is it?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Is it a lot of like looking up in the
- 22:08Speaker 1: dictionary or a thesaurus or something and and like making
- 22:12Speaker 1: sure like your grammars write. Like I'm just always curious,
- 22:14Speaker 1: like when if English isn't your first language, what is
- 22:17Speaker 1: it like to then write basically poetry. I mean that's
- 22:20Speaker 1: what lyrics are. What is it like then to write
- 22:23Speaker 1: poetry in English?
- 22:24Speaker 3: It feels like it's homeworks, you know, it's really it's
- 22:29Speaker 3: really hard. Luckily we have a Nico the basics. He's
- 22:32Speaker 3: fluent in English, so he's always checking that the grammar
- 22:37Speaker 3: is correct and that everything is understandable or pretty and poetic.
- 22:44Speaker 3: It was it was hard for me to write in
- 22:46Speaker 3: English because you know, novelists, the touch of novelists is
- 22:50Speaker 3: to have a really how to say, like smart lyrics,
- 22:56Speaker 3: Like you cannot just write random lyrics or cheesy lyrics,
- 23:00Speaker 3: like they really want to go deeper in the in
- 23:03Speaker 3: the meaning and in the poetry. So it was hard
- 23:07Speaker 3: for me. It was a hard exercise. So that's why
- 23:11Speaker 3: I cheated a little bit and I wrote some verses
- 23:14Speaker 3: in French and some and a song in Spanish because
- 23:17Speaker 3: because I speak friendly French and Spanish. And yeah, it
- 23:22Speaker 3: was hard work. But as as writing line vocal lines
- 23:26Speaker 3: and screaming lines, so it works.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Does it? Is it?
- 23:30Speaker 1: Sometimes where you're when you're like writing those lyrics are
- 23:32Speaker 1: like you maybe originally writing them in Spanish or in
- 23:35Speaker 1: French and then maybe translating them.
- 23:37Speaker 3: I try not to do that because because it's it's
- 23:40Speaker 3: totally it's a totally different way of speaking English and French.
- 23:46Speaker 3: French and Spanish are closer than than English and French.
- 23:50Speaker 3: If I I, of course did that mistake to write
- 23:53Speaker 3: lyrics in French and then translate, it's so hard you
- 23:56Speaker 3: have to you have to change criuse you know, there
- 23:58Speaker 3: is not only the meaning of the lyrics, but so
- 24:00Speaker 3: the shape of the words and their rhyme. So yeah,
- 24:06Speaker 3: it's and the rhythm. So it's it's it's different, and
- 24:10Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how I'm gonna do
- 24:12Speaker 3: for the next album, but uh yeah, I'm improving every
- 24:16Speaker 3: every time, I'm improving more than the time before. So
- 24:20Speaker 3: I see, well, I love them.
- 24:23Speaker 1: I think, like again, it's one of those things where
- 24:25Speaker 1: like as you're listening to these new songs, you're like,
- 24:29Speaker 1: it's not not The first thing would have come to
- 24:31Speaker 1: my mind is like that English isn't your first language,
- 24:34Speaker 1: Like it it's like very impressive, Like what you're like
- 24:38Speaker 1: your your lyrics in English are I mean, it's just
- 24:40Speaker 1: I was very very impressed, and so yeah, it was
- 24:43Speaker 1: not obvious to me at all that like English wouldn't
- 24:45Speaker 1: be your first language or or even like a language
- 24:48Speaker 1: that you might not feel exactly the most like comfortable or.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Fluent in cool.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate that.
- 24:55Speaker 2: You're doing great. You're doing great.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Another thing that I'm curious about again this this is
- 25:00Speaker 1: kind of what makes novelists I think unique in terms
- 25:02Speaker 1: of its history is like we mentioned before, like the
- 25:04Speaker 1: band started out with two different vocalists, you know, so
- 25:09Speaker 1: there I'm forgetting the names right now of the.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Former vocalist Charles.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Charles Henry was like the first I think
- 25:18Speaker 1: vocalist or sorry not was the first vocalist. Yeah, So
- 25:24Speaker 1: like you have Mattio, who obviously is a man, and
- 25:27Speaker 1: then like Tobias it was a man. And like I've
- 25:30Speaker 1: definitely like interviewed lots of bands and have gotten to
- 25:33Speaker 1: know and love lots of bands that have like a
- 25:35Speaker 1: vocalist change, but rarely is the vocalist change like a
- 25:38Speaker 1: change in gender. And so I'm really curious, like is
- 25:41Speaker 1: that something that you've thought through, like like if you
- 25:44Speaker 1: have like what has that like how does that feel?
- 25:48Speaker 2: Like?
- 25:48Speaker 1: I'm just really curious because yeah, like a lot of times,
- 25:51Speaker 1: like if you see a band changing its vocalist, they
- 25:53Speaker 1: try to like get a vocalist that might have like
- 25:55Speaker 1: the same exact kind of voice as their previous vocalist
- 25:58Speaker 1: or something, or maybe.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Has a similar, like kind of style as a previous vocalist.
- 26:03Speaker 1: But obviously to some degree, like that's just not going
- 26:05Speaker 1: to be exactly the case with with you know, just
- 26:08Speaker 1: like your voice and stuff versus like matios or some
- 26:11Speaker 1: of the other guys.
- 26:12Speaker 2: So I'm just curious, like, is that something that you've
- 26:14Speaker 2: thought through like that. I don't know.
- 26:15Speaker 1: I just find that really interesting and I think that's
- 26:17Speaker 1: really cool, like a cool part of novelists.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. So when I joined the band, I was
- 26:23Speaker 3: in a like, I think a pre on May twenty three,
- 26:27Speaker 3: and so I was not official in the band. And
- 26:29Speaker 3: during the whole summer where we were while we were
- 26:32Speaker 3: writing them Turn It Up, the first song, the boys
- 26:36Speaker 3: were like preparing me to the haters. They were like, Okay,
- 26:40Speaker 3: you're gonna have a haters because we already did one
- 26:44Speaker 3: singer change and the previous one had haters. And you
- 26:49Speaker 3: know what, I totally agree with that, Like, when you
- 26:52Speaker 3: love a band, you love the singer and they're on switching.
- 26:54Speaker 3: I totally agree that you feel disappointed or sad or
- 26:59Speaker 3: or angry maybe, but in the end, you know, for me,
- 27:03Speaker 3: it was like the best opportunity. So I'm not gonna
- 27:05Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say sorry, you know. And when when
- 27:09Speaker 3: we released it.
- 27:09Speaker 1: It's like a cool way to see, like how the
- 27:11Speaker 1: band changes and grows, right, like when you add like
- 27:13Speaker 1: a new vocalist, right, like the novelists will be different
- 27:16Speaker 1: because you're in the band and you have a different
- 27:19Speaker 1: style than the previous singers. And I think that's like
- 27:21Speaker 1: a really cool opportunity for the band and for the listeners,
- 27:24Speaker 1: you know, the fans of the band.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. And and of course when we released the
- 27:28Speaker 3: first song, there was a lot of haters, but I
- 27:32Speaker 3: was prepared, so I was like, okay, I don't take
- 27:34Speaker 3: it personally, It's like it's okay. And they were like
- 27:38Speaker 3: the boys told me, like I think a month ago
- 27:41Speaker 3: that I didn't have more haters than the previous singer,
- 27:45Speaker 3: Like it was the same amount, Like the fact that
- 27:47Speaker 3: I'm a girl didn't add more haters. The only thing
- 27:51Speaker 3: is that the comments were different because they were more like, oh,
- 27:54Speaker 3: it's a female. We don't like females screaming in metal
- 27:57Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, And of course the previous
- 28:01Speaker 3: singer didn't have that kind of comments, but he had
- 28:04Speaker 3: a lot of haters. And when we released the first
- 28:07Speaker 3: song Coda of the new album, I think it was
- 28:11Speaker 3: almost no haters, you know, like maybe maybe one percent.
- 28:15Speaker 3: And I think it took four songs for people to
- 28:19Speaker 3: understand and a lot of shows because we toured the
- 28:21Speaker 3: world last year. We went to the US, to Australia, Asia, Europe,
- 28:26Speaker 3: and I think people went to two shows and they
- 28:30Speaker 3: saw us live and they were happy with the fact
- 28:34Speaker 3: that I'm the new singer. They liked the energy, and
- 28:37Speaker 3: there was a lot of people that came at the
- 28:39Speaker 3: end of the show at the Merged stand while I
- 28:42Speaker 3: was there, and they were telling me, like, I'm so
- 28:45Speaker 3: happy that you there. There was some boys that told
- 28:48Speaker 3: me I was a septic when you joined the band,
- 28:51Speaker 3: like I was not happy, but I went to see
- 28:53Speaker 3: you live and Okay, now I'm convinced, and I will
- 28:56Speaker 3: come back and I will listen to your new songs.
- 29:00Speaker 3: So it was it was not that hard for me,
- 29:03Speaker 3: you know, like there was a lot of haters, but
- 29:05Speaker 3: I just didn't take it personally.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. Well.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I think it's great like attitude to have with all
- 29:14Speaker 1: of that, like knowing that, yeah, there's gonna be dedicated
- 29:16Speaker 1: fans that are gonna be disappointed, like they you know,
- 29:18Speaker 1: they've grown accustomed to a certain sound or whatever, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: obviously your voice is gonna be a little different. But
- 29:23Speaker 1: I love the direction that you all are going, Like,
- 29:25Speaker 1: I just think like you're an amazing addition to the band,
- 29:28Speaker 1: and I just really I'm just like really impressed by
- 29:31Speaker 1: the direction you all are You're you're going, so yeah,
- 29:34Speaker 1: I'm really stoked. So well, last couple questions here. Let's
- 29:38Speaker 1: let's go into your top five most influential albums. So
- 29:41Speaker 1: let's let's talk about some of those albums that.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Have maybe shaped you as a musician or as a person.
- 29:47Speaker 3: Okay, so for the screaming parts, I will say songs
- 29:50Speaker 3: to scream at the sound from.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Have Heart Such a good Wait.
- 29:56Speaker 3: I think I know every word, every drum, It's on
- 30:00Speaker 3: the whole album. Of course, I will say Misery Business
- 30:04Speaker 3: from Paramore, of.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Course, If Got You, If Got You? Yeah, her voice
- 30:09Speaker 2: still like just stands apart.
- 30:11Speaker 1: She you don't really like I don't think I really
- 30:13Speaker 1: appreciated how great her voice is when, like, you know,
- 30:16Speaker 1: the band first started. But now I'm realizing how unbelievable
- 30:20Speaker 1: Harley's voices.
- 30:21Speaker 3: She's so talented, and even even in live like she
- 30:24Speaker 3: she sings so well. I think she's the best performer
- 30:27Speaker 3: for me ever, so good.
- 30:29Speaker 2: So that's a great pick. Great pick. That's two.
- 30:33Speaker 3: The third one I think it's it's a really recent
- 30:37Speaker 3: one and it hits me for the creativity and the weirdness.
- 30:41Speaker 3: It's motto Mummy from Larusalia. She's a Spanish singer and
- 30:47Speaker 3: if you hear the if you listen to the album
- 30:51Speaker 3: the first listen, I was like, what's was that? Like,
- 30:54Speaker 3: she's using sound of a motto in a song and
- 30:59Speaker 3: it's not even in rhythm, and it's really disturbing that
- 31:02Speaker 3: that's that's the word. It's disturbing. And it's been I
- 31:06Speaker 3: think thirty times that I listened to the album, and
- 31:09Speaker 3: now I'm like, yeah, that this is sounds like you're
- 31:12Speaker 3: used to it and and that's really cool. And I'm
- 31:15Speaker 3: really I'm trying to to be as disturbing as she is.
- 31:20Speaker 2: I love that. That's cool. When when did that album
- 31:22Speaker 2: get released.
- 31:23Speaker 3: I think it was three three years ago.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Okay, so it's pretty new.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty new, so pretty four. I would say
- 31:33Speaker 3: again Hard Times Power More. Also, I really a this. Yeah,
- 31:40Speaker 3: it's it's a good inspiration and was the fifth one.
- 31:45Speaker 2: By the way, have you met Haley before?
- 31:47Speaker 3: Never?
- 31:49Speaker 2: You need to make that happen.
- 31:51Speaker 3: That's that's one of my you know, bucket lists of
- 31:54Speaker 3: my life. Yes, yeah, exactly, and the last one I'm
- 31:58Speaker 3: really bad at. There so many albums it's too hard
- 32:01Speaker 3: to choose. Now. There is the hit me Hard and
- 32:04Speaker 3: Soft of Billie Eilish and this one is also. I
- 32:11Speaker 3: listen to it so many times. I think it's when
- 32:14Speaker 3: I when I will have my Spotify wrap, is gonna
- 32:16Speaker 3: be on my top for sure.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's awesome. That's cool. That's a great list.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I love the like just like, yeah, you get Billie
- 32:25Speaker 1: Eilish in there, a couple of paramoores and then even
- 32:27Speaker 1: have Heart, like you got to throw a have the
- 32:29Speaker 1: Heart in there, so that that's a that's a great list. Yeah,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I'm a big thing since you all well I know
- 32:36Speaker 1: you're not originally from from France, but you know the
- 32:39Speaker 1: rest of the band I think is mostly from France.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Are you, like, are you guys familiar at all with
- 32:43Speaker 2: Birds in Row?
- 32:45Speaker 3: I don't know them. Well, I know the band, of course,
- 32:48Speaker 3: but I don't know them personally. But I'm from friends,
- 32:50Speaker 3: you know, I'm half but I'm totally French. I was
- 32:55Speaker 3: born in France.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Oh you are okay? Okay?
- 32:59Speaker 1: Well, I like Birds and Rows like one of my
- 33:01Speaker 1: favorite bands. They very rarely tour in the US. They're
- 33:05Speaker 1: almost always touring in Europe. But I know, but I
- 33:08Speaker 1: know they're from from France. I don't know if they're from.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Paris or not.
- 33:10Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think Birds in Rows like seriously,
- 33:13Speaker 1: they're like probably a top ten favorite band of all
- 33:15Speaker 1: time for me.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Incredible. Yeah, they're they're great.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like yeah, since you're like kind of a
- 33:22Speaker 1: have part fan, they've got like, you know, those hardcore vibes,
- 33:25Speaker 1: but they've kind of got this cool, like indie sound.
- 33:27Speaker 2: They're unbelievable. That's awesome. Cool.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Well, uh, Camille, what do you what do you want
- 33:32Speaker 1: to plug? Obviously, the new album I think is coming
- 33:34Speaker 1: out in like twenty days now.
- 33:36Speaker 3: I don't know exactly, but yeah, this sixteen of May.
- 33:38Speaker 3: I don't know how many days.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it's coming up at least from the
- 33:41Speaker 1: time of the recording. It's coming out in like twenty days. Yeah,
- 33:44Speaker 1: So what what do you want to plug?
- 33:46Speaker 3: So the plug the thing we said before, right, because
- 33:50Speaker 3: I'm not sure I didn't.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Do like a real one first. So yeah, like the
- 33:54Speaker 1: album or like if you shows or whatever, like a
- 33:57Speaker 1: real one first.
- 33:57Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna tour again the US, the Europe,
- 34:01Speaker 3: and Asia started from September to promote the album and
- 34:07Speaker 3: too to Yeah, to show the world this album. And
- 34:11Speaker 3: I hope that you guys be there to to watch
- 34:14Speaker 3: it and to.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Listen to I can't Wait, can't wait, love it. Well,
- 34:19Speaker 1: I'm excited for anything else you'd like to plug.
- 34:22Speaker 3: As you know, I'm a chemist engineer and I'm doing
- 34:25Speaker 3: a cosmetics projects and I create a seerrup that can
- 34:30Speaker 3: make everyone's cream really well. So I'm gonna sell uh
- 34:35Speaker 3: these syrups really soon on my Instagram account. So stay tuned,
- 34:39Speaker 3: and I and I really hope you're gonna.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Buy some what what are you gonna call it?
- 34:44Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it.
- 34:46Speaker 2: You haven't you haven't come up with the name yet.
- 34:48Speaker 3: No, not yet. Oh, but there is there is another thing.
- 34:51Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a lip and lipstick, you know, and
- 34:54Speaker 3: we're gonna call it nove Lips. That's the joke. Remate.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Yah, that's gonna like that's you're selling that on the tour,
- 35:02Speaker 1: right like that that has to be sold soon.
- 35:04Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna try it. We're gonna try
- 35:06Speaker 3: to make it.
- 35:08Speaker 1: I mean, I've I don't know if I've ever worn lipstick,
- 35:10Speaker 1: but I would wear novel Lips lipstick without a doubt.
- 35:14Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.
- 35:15Speaker 2: I I'm all about that. I love that. I love that.
- 35:18Speaker 2: That's a that's a you know.
- 35:19Speaker 1: I wish more bands were more creative with like their
- 35:22Speaker 1: names and then like the merch that they create, Like
- 35:25Speaker 1: we just need more of that kind of fun creativity.
- 35:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
- 35:31Speaker 2: I love it. I love it well, Kimil.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Thank you so much for chatting more about the new
- 35:35Speaker 1: album and just Novelists and your history with the band.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Again.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'm super stoked with this new album. This is just
- 35:41Speaker 1: gonna be really like, this might be an album that
- 35:44Speaker 1: I've got in my top albums at the end of
- 35:46Speaker 1: the year. I'm just really excited, thank you, thanks so
- 35:48Speaker 1: much for chatting more about it.
- 35:50Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And I really hope you like
- 35:51Speaker 3: it and and yeah, that's it. We put our hearts
- 35:54Speaker 3: in this album, so I hope guys you like it.