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From Grandfather's Inspiration to Children's Book Publication: The Galloping Frog · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 3:34
  Keris
• 3:35
  Thompson,
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  Galloping
• 3:37
  Frog.
• 3:38
  Thanks,
• 3:38
  Charis,
• 3:39
  for
• 3:39
  appearing
• 3:40
  on
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  Adventures
• 3:40
  in
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  Heart
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  Children's
• 3:42
  Book
• 3:42
  Authors
• 3:42
  podcast.
• 3:43
  Charis
• 3:44
  has
• 3:44
  written
• 3:44
  a
• 3:44
  children's
• 3:45
  book,
• 3:45
  as
• 3:45
  she
• 3:46
  mentioned
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  Galloping
• 3:47
  Frog.
• 3:48
  And
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  look
• 3:48
  forward
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  our
• 3:49
  conversation
• 3:51
  before
• 3:51
  Charis.
• 3:52
  We
• 3:52
  get
• 3:52
  into
• 3:52
  the
• 3:53
  details
• 3:53
  of
• 3:53
  your
• 3:54
  book
• 3:55
  and
• 3:55
  your
• 3:55
  children's
• 3:56
  book
• 3:56
  authorship.
• 3:57
  Can
• 3:57
  you
• 3:57
  tell
• 3:57
  us
• 3:59
  what
• 3:59
  does
• 3:59
  it
• 4:00
  mean
• 4:00
  to
• 4:00
  you
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  be
• 4:01
  a
• 4:01
  children's
• 4:02
  book
• 4:02
  author?
• 4:04
  Oh,
• 4:04
  my
• 4:04
  goodness,
• 4:05
  what
• 4:05
  an
• 4:05
  opening
• 4:06
  question.
• 4:07
  So
• 4:09
  being
• 4:09
  an
• 4:09
  author
• 4:11
  or
• 4:11
  publishing
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  book,
• 4:12
  if
• 4:12
  I
• 4:12
  take
• 4:12
  it
• 4:13
  back,
• 4:13
  has
• 4:13
  always
• 4:13
  been
• 4:14
  on
• 4:14
  my
• 4:14
  list
• 4:14
  of
• 4:15
  things
• 4:15
  I've
• 4:16
  always
• 4:16
  wanted
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  achieve
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  I've
• 4:19
  dabbled
• 4:19
  with.
• 4:20
  Do
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  do
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  novel?
• 4:21
  Do
• 4:21
  you
• 4:21
  do
• 4:22
  something
• 4:22
  that's
• 4:23
  crime?
• 4:24
  Or
• 4:25
  if
• 4:25
  Harry
• 4:25
  Potter
• 4:26
  hadn't
• 4:26
  have
• 4:26
  been
• 4:27
  written
• 4:27
  already,
• 4:28
  some.
• 4:28
  Something
• 4:29
  along
• 4:29
  those
• 4:29
  lines.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  would
• 4:30
  just
• 4:31
  trip
• 4:31
  myself
• 4:31
  up
• 4:32
  all
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  time
• 4:34
  and
• 4:34
  decided
• 4:35
  actually
• 4:36
  I
• 4:37
  think
• 4:37
  being
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  children's
• 4:38
  author
• 4:39
  takes
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  pressure
• 4:40
  off
• 4:41
  in
• 4:41
  terms
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  getting
• 4:42
  stuck
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  my
• 4:42
  own
• 4:42
  head
• 4:43
  of
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  detail.
• 4:45
  If
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  read
• 4:46
  novels,
• 4:46
  all
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  detail
• 4:47
  they.
• 4:47
  All
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  research
• 4:48
  they
• 4:48
  must
• 4:48
  do.
• 4:49
  But
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  thought,
• 4:49
  no,
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  whole
• 4:50
  point
• 4:51
  for
• 4:51
  me
• 4:51
  was
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  have
• 4:52
  fun,
• 4:53
  to
• 4:54
  bring
• 4:54
  something
• 4:54
  to
• 4:55
  life
• 4:55
  that
• 4:55
  was
• 4:55
  very
• 4:55
  personal
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  me.
• 4:57
  And
• 4:57
  we'll
• 4:57
  get
• 4:58
  into
• 4:58
  it.
• 4:58
  But
• 4:58
  just
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  joy
• 4:59
  now
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  hearing
• 5:01
  children
• 5:01
  talk
• 5:02
  about
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  Galloping
• 5:03
  Frog,
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  is
• 5:04
  something
• 5:05
  very
• 5:05
  sentimental
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  me.
• 5:07
  Is
• 5:07
  there.
• 5:07
  There
• 5:08
  aren't
• 5:08
  words
• 5:08
  that
• 5:08
  can
• 5:09
  describe
• 5:09
  why
• 5:10
  that's
• 5:10
  so
• 5:11
  special.
• 5:12
  So
• 5:12
  it
• 5:12
  is
• 5:12
  way
• 5:13
  up
• 5:13
  there.
• 5:13
  It's
• 5:14
  still
• 5:14
  very
• 5:14
  weird
• 5:15
  to
• 5:15
  know
• 5:15
  that
• 5:15
  I'm
• 5:15
  a
• 5:16
  published
• 5:16
  children's
• 5:16
  author,
• 5:18
  but
• 5:18
  it
• 5:18
  is
• 5:18
  very
• 5:19
  special.
• 5:19
  Good
• 5:20
  for
• 5:20
  you.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  you
• 5:21
  don't
• 5:21
  find
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  with
• 5:22
  a
• 5:22
  lot
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  my
• 5:22
  guests
• 5:23
  is
• 5:23
  that
• 5:24
  just
• 5:25
  being
• 5:25
  able
• 5:25
  to
• 5:26
  say
• 5:26
  those
• 5:26
  words
• 5:26
  on
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  children's
• 5:27
  book
• 5:27
  author
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  to
• 5:28
  actually
• 5:29
  open
• 5:29
  up
• 5:29
  their
• 5:30
  book
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  have
• 5:30
  it
• 5:30
  in
• 5:31
  their
• 5:31
  hands
• 5:32
  seems
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  to
• 5:32
  be
• 5:33
  like,
• 5:33
  paramount
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  the
• 5:34
  whole
• 5:34
  process.
• 5:36
  Absolutely.
• 5:36
  The
• 5:37
  first
• 5:37
  time
• 5:37
  I
• 5:37
  got
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  copy
• 5:38
  in
• 5:39
  my
• 5:39
  hands,
• 5:40
  it
• 5:40
  was
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  very
• 5:41
  surreal
• 5:42
  moment.
• 5:42
  And
• 5:42
  then
• 5:42
  to
• 5:43
  see
• 5:43
  other
• 5:43
  children
• 5:44
  with
• 5:44
  it,
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  see
• 5:45
  it
• 5:45
  on
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  bookshelf.
• 5:46
  It's
• 5:46
  still
• 5:47
  very
• 5:47
  new.
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  only
• 5:48
  published
• 5:48
  in
• 5:49
  August,
• 5:49
  so
• 5:49
  it's
• 5:49
  still
• 5:50
  very
• 5:50
  new
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  me.
• 5:51
  It's
• 5:51
  only
• 5:51
  been
• 5:51
  a
• 5:52
  couple
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  months,
• 5:52
  but
• 5:53
  it
• 5:53
  is
• 5:53
  very
• 5:53
  special.
• 5:54
  Congratulations.
• 5:55
  What
• 5:56
  I'd
• 5:56
  like
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  do
• 5:56
  is
• 5:57
  now
• 5:57
  talk
• 5:57
  to
• 5:57
  you
• 5:58
  about
• 5:58
  the
• 5:59
  inspiration
• 6:00
  behind
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  book
• 6:01
  and
• 6:02
  how
• 6:02
  did
• 6:02
  it
• 6:03
  all
• 6:03
  get
• 6:03
  started.
• 6:04
  So
• 6:04
  give
• 6:04
  us
• 6:04
  your
• 6:05
  origin
• 6:05
  story.
• 6:06
  When
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  was
• 6:07
  a
• 6:07
  little
• 6:08
  girl,
• 6:09
  me
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  my
• 6:09
  brother's
• 6:09
  younger
• 6:10
  than
• 6:10
  me,
• 6:10
  we
• 6:11
  would
• 6:11
  go
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  visit
• 6:11
  my
• 6:12
  grandparents
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  they
• 6:14
  lived
• 6:15
  in
• 6:15
  a
• 6:15
  little
• 6:16
  town
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  England.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:18
  near
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  town,
• 6:20
  in
• 6:21
  my
• 6:21
  head,
• 6:21
  it
• 6:22
  feels
• 6:22
  like
• 6:22
  it
• 6:22
  was
• 6:22
  hours
• 6:23
  away,
• 6:23
  but
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  had
• 6:24
  little
• 6:24
  legs.
• 6:25
  So
• 6:25
  it
• 6:25
  probably
• 6:25
  wasn't.
• 6:26
  There
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  this
• 6:27
  creek
• 6:28
  with
• 6:29
  stepping
• 6:29
  stones,
• 6:30
  and
• 6:31
  we
• 6:31
  loved
• 6:31
  it.
• 6:32
  Being
• 6:32
  able
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  go
• 6:32
  across
• 6:32
  stepping
• 6:33
  stones,
• 6:33
  across
• 6:33
  this
• 6:34
  little
• 6:34
  creek,
• 6:35
  it
• 6:35
  felt
• 6:35
  really
• 6:36
  dangerous
• 6:36
  and
• 6:36
  adventurous,
• 6:38
  but
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  walk
• 6:39
  there
• 6:39
  felt
• 6:39
  like
• 6:40
  forever.
• 6:41
  And
• 6:41
  so
• 6:42
  my
• 6:42
  granddad,
• 6:43
  he
• 6:43
  didn't
• 6:43
  speak
• 6:44
  very
• 6:44
  many
• 6:44
  words.
• 6:45
  He
• 6:45
  was
• 6:45
  a
• 6:45
  very
• 6:45
  quiet
• 6:46
  man,
• 6:47
  but
• 6:47
  he
• 6:47
  was
• 6:47
  so
• 6:47
  silly
• 6:48
  when
• 6:48
  he
• 6:49
  did
• 6:49
  come
• 6:49
  out
• 6:49
  with
• 6:49
  stuff.
• 6:49
  It
• 6:50
  was
• 6:50
  silly
• 6:50
  and
• 6:51
  it
• 6:51
  was
• 6:51
  funny,
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  it
• 6:52
  normally
• 6:53
  involved
• 6:53
  noises
• 6:54
  and
• 6:55
  characters.
• 6:56
  And
• 6:56
  so
• 6:57
  one
• 6:57
  day
• 6:57
  we
• 6:58
  were
• 6:58
  walking
• 6:58
  along
• 6:59
  and
• 7:00
  we're
• 7:00
  obviously
• 7:00
  bored
• 7:01
  or
• 7:01
  we're
• 7:01
  tired
• 7:02
  or
• 7:02
  we're
• 7:02
  hungry.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:04
  he
• 7:04
  just
• 7:04
  went,
• 7:04
  shh.
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  think
• 7:07
  I
• 7:07
  can
• 7:07
  hear
• 7:07
  it.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:08
  we're
• 7:08
  like,
• 7:08
  what,
• 7:08
  Granddad?
• 7:09
  He's
• 7:09
  like,
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  think
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  can
• 7:10
  hear
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  Galloping
• 7:11
  Frog.
• 7:13
  Like,
• 7:13
  what
• 7:13
  is
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  Galloping
• 7:14
  Frog?
• 7:15
  He'd
• 7:15
  never
• 7:16
  mentioned
• 7:16
  it
• 7:16
  before.
• 7:17
  We
• 7:17
  had
• 7:17
  no
• 7:17
  idea
• 7:18
  what
• 7:18
  he
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  talking
• 7:18
  about.
• 7:19
  He
• 7:19
  da
• 7:20
  dum
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  Galloping
• 7:21
  Frog.
• 7:21
  And
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  was
• 7:22
  it.
• 7:22
  That's
• 7:22
  all
• 7:22
  he
• 7:22
  would
• 7:22
  say.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:23
  then
• 7:24
  the
• 7:24
  next
• 7:24
  time
• 7:25
  we
• 7:25
  would
• 7:25
  visit
• 7:25
  him,
• 7:25
  it
• 7:25
  would
• 7:26
  come
• 7:26
  up
• 7:26
  again.
• 7:27
  Granddad,
• 7:28
  what's
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  Galloping
• 7:29
  Frog?
• 7:29
  And
• 7:30
  we
• 7:30
  would
• 7:30
  get
• 7:30
  little
• 7:31
  snippets.
• 7:32
  We
• 7:32
  knew
• 7:32
  he
• 7:32
  lived
• 7:32
  at
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  marshes.
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  don't
• 7:34
  know
• 7:34
  why.
• 7:35
  My
• 7:35
  granddad
• 7:36
  said
• 7:36
  he
• 7:36
  had
• 7:36
  fangs,
• 7:37
  which,
• 7:37
  you'll
• 7:37
  be
• 7:37
  pleased
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  know,
• 7:38
  was
• 7:38
  not
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  the
• 7:39
  book.
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  thought
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  was
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  little
• 7:40
  bit
• 7:40
  too
• 7:40
  scary.
• 7:41
  But
• 7:41
  we
• 7:41
  would
• 7:41
  get
• 7:42
  just
• 7:42
  little
• 7:42
  snippets
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  who
• 7:43
  this
• 7:43
  character
• 7:44
  was.
• 7:44
  And
• 7:45
  then
• 7:45
  Even
• 7:46
  into
• 7:46
  my
• 7:46
  30s,
• 7:47
  I
• 7:47
  would
• 7:48
  visit
• 7:48
  my
• 7:49
  grandparents.
• 7:50
  And
• 7:50
  even
• 7:50
  my
• 7:51
  husband
• 7:51
  knew
• 7:51
  about
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  Galloping
• 7:52
  Frog
• 7:53
  because
• 7:53
  it
• 7:53
  was
• 7:53
  this
• 7:53
  famous
• 7:54
  character
• 7:54
  in
• 7:55
  my
• 7:55
  childhood.
• 7:56
  And
• 7:56
  so
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  would
• 7:57
  say
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  granddad,
• 7:57
  so
• 7:58
  who
• 7:58
  is
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  Galloping
• 7:59
  Frog?
• 7:59
  And
• 7:59
  he
• 7:59
  would
• 7:59
  just
• 8:00
  laugh.
• 8:00
  He
• 8:01
  would
• 8:01
  just
• 8:01
  laugh
• 8:01
  at
• 8:01
  me
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  walk
• 8:02
  off.
• 8:04
  So
• 8:05
  we
• 8:05
  never
• 8:05
  found
• 8:05
  out.
• 8:06
  My
• 8:06
  granddad.
• 8:07
  Then
• 8:07
  subsequently,
• 8:07
  he
• 8:08
  passed
• 8:08
  away.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  hadn't
• 8:09
  lived
• 8:09
  in
• 8:10
  Canada
• 8:10
  that
• 8:10
  long,
• 8:11
  so
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  flew
• 8:12
  back
• 8:12
  to
• 8:12
  see
• 8:12
  the
• 8:13
  family.
• 8:14
  And
• 8:14
  when
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  came
• 8:15
  back
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  Canada,
• 8:16
  I
• 8:16
  remember
• 8:16
  sitting
• 8:17
  in
• 8:17
  my
• 8:17
  living
• 8:17
  room
• 8:19
  and
• 8:20
  it
• 8:20
  just.
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  don't
• 8:21
  know,
• 8:21
  it
• 8:21
  just
• 8:21
  came
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  me
• 8:21
  to
• 8:22
  say,
• 8:22
  I
• 8:22
  need
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  turn
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  Galloping
• 8:23
  Frog
• 8:23
  into
• 8:23
  a
• 8:24
  story.
• 8:25
  And
• 8:25
  so
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  sat
• 8:26
  there.
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  grew
• 8:27
  up
• 8:27
  with
• 8:28
  Dr.
• 8:28
  Seuss
• 8:29
  in
• 8:29
  my
• 8:29
  house,
• 8:30
  we
• 8:30
  all
• 8:30
  read
• 8:30
  Dr.
• 8:30
  Seuss
• 8:31
  books.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  could
• 8:32
  hear
• 8:32
  this
• 8:33
  melody
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  my
• 8:34
  head,
• 8:35
  and
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  thought,
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  just
• 8:36
  need
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  start
• 8:37
  writing
• 8:38
  down
• 8:38
  words
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  just
• 8:40
  trying
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  bring
• 8:40
  that
• 8:41
  story
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  life.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:42
  so
• 8:42
  that's
• 8:43
  why
• 8:43
  this
• 8:43
  is
• 8:43
  so
• 8:44
  sentimental.
• 8:44
  So.
• 8:45
  Because
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  hear
• 8:46
  other
• 8:46
  children
• 8:47
  now
• 8:48
  talk
• 8:48
  about
• 8:48
  the
• 8:49
  gallivant
• 8:49
  frog,
• 8:50
  it's
• 8:50
  just.
• 8:51
  I
• 8:51
  would
• 8:51
  love
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  know
• 8:52
  what
• 8:52
  my
• 8:52
  grandad
• 8:52
  would
• 8:53
  think
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  hear
• 8:55
  that
• 8:55
  this
• 8:55
  character
• 8:56
  is
• 8:56
  now
• 8:56
  out
• 8:56
  there.
• 8:57
  But,
• 8:57
  yes,
• 8:57
  that's
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  origin
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  it.
• 8:59
  If
• 8:59
  that
• 9:00
  answers
• 9:00
  your
• 9:00
  question.
• 9:01
  Yes,
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  that's
• 9:02
  so
• 9:02
  neat.
• 9:02
  I've
• 9:03
  heard
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  lot
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  inspiration
• 9:04
  by
• 9:05
  grandparents
• 9:06
  for
• 9:06
  sure,
• 9:07
  but
• 9:07
  I've
• 9:07
  never
• 9:07
  heard
• 9:08
  it
• 9:08
  quite
• 9:08
  that
• 9:08
  way.
• 9:09
  So
• 9:09
  it's
• 9:10
  neat
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  your
• 9:10
  grandfather
• 9:13
  put
• 9:13
  this
• 9:15
  galloping
• 9:15
  frog
• 9:16
  concept
• 9:17
  in
• 9:17
  your
• 9:17
  mind
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  then
• 9:19
  let
• 9:19
  you
• 9:20
  run
• 9:20
  wild
• 9:21
  with
• 9:21
  it.
• 9:22
  Yes,
• 9:22
  absolutely.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  characters
• 9:25
  all
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  way
• 9:25
  through
• 9:25
  the
• 9:26
  book,
• 9:26
  there's
• 9:26
  different
• 9:26
  animals.
• 9:27
  They
• 9:27
  are
• 9:27
  all
• 9:28
  animals
• 9:28
  he
• 9:28
  had
• 9:29
  and
• 9:30
  they
• 9:30
  are
• 9:30
  all
• 9:30
  named
• 9:31
  after
• 9:31
  animals
• 9:32
  that
• 9:32
  he
• 9:32
  had.
• 9:33
  So
• 9:33
  everything
• 9:33
  through
• 9:34
  this
• 9:34
  book
• 9:35
  is
• 9:35
  very
• 9:36
  much
• 9:36
  inspired
• 9:36
  by
• 9:37
  my
• 9:37
  granddad.
• 9:37
  My
• 9:37
  granddad's
• 9:38
  name
• 9:38
  was
• 9:38
  Jerry,
• 9:39
  which
• 9:40
  we
• 9:40
  find
• 9:40
  is
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  name
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  frog.
• 9:41
  It's
• 9:42
  all
• 9:42
  about
• 9:42
  him.
• 9:43
  And
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  put
• 9:43
  at
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  beginning
• 9:44
  it
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  about.
• 9:46
  He
• 9:46
  made
• 9:46
  us
• 9:46
  nonsense,
• 9:47
  magical.
• 9:48
  Anything
• 9:49
  he
• 9:49
  did.
• 9:50
  If
• 9:50
  we
• 9:50
  were
• 9:50
  baking
• 9:51
  bread
• 9:51
  in
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  bread
• 9:52
  machine,
• 9:53
  he
• 9:53
  said,
• 9:54
  you
• 9:54
  have
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  make
• 9:54
  noises
• 9:55
  at
• 9:55
  it
• 9:55
  otherwise
• 9:55
  it
• 9:55
  won't
• 9:56
  rise.
• 9:57
  And
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  was
• 9:57
  just
• 9:58
  silly
• 9:58
  things
• 9:58
  like
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  he
• 9:59
  would
• 9:59
  do.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  so
• 10:01
  hoping
• 10:02
  that's
• 10:02
  what
• 10:02
  comes
• 10:03
  through
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  book
• 10:03
  is
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  it's
• 10:04
  fun,
• 10:05
  it's
• 10:05
  light
• 10:05
  hearted,
• 10:06
  it
• 10:07
  has
• 10:07
  a
• 10:07
  nice
• 10:07
  message
• 10:07
  to
• 10:08
  it,
• 10:08
  but
• 10:08
  it's
• 10:08
  very
• 10:09
  much
• 10:09
  my
• 10:09
  granddad.
• 10:11
  Fantastic.
• 10:12
  I'm
• 10:12
  interested
• 10:13
  especially
• 10:13
  as
• 10:14
  a.
• 10:14
  I'm
• 10:14
  going
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  call
• 10:15
  you
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  newly
• 10:16
  minted
• 10:17
  children's
• 10:17
  book
• 10:17
  author.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:21
  like
• 10:21
  we
• 10:21
  talked
• 10:22
  about
• 10:22
  earlier,
• 10:23
  generally
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  find
• 10:24
  that
• 10:25
  children's
• 10:26
  book
• 10:26
  authors,
• 10:27
  they
• 10:27
  write
• 10:27
  their
• 10:27
  first
• 10:28
  book,
• 10:28
  the
• 10:28
  biggest
• 10:28
  thing
• 10:29
  is
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  passion
• 10:30
  and
• 10:31
  actually
• 10:32
  being
• 10:32
  able
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  get
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  book
• 10:33
  in
• 10:34
  their
• 10:34
  hand
• 10:34
  and
• 10:35
  start
• 10:35
  flipping
• 10:35
  through
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  published
• 10:36
  book.
• 10:38
  Now
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  have
• 10:39
  that,
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  have
• 10:40
  this
• 10:41
  uniqueness
• 10:42
  because
• 10:42
  you
• 10:42
  now
• 10:42
  you've
• 10:42
  got
• 10:43
  a
• 10:43
  product
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  sell,
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  essence,
• 10:46
  you've
• 10:46
  got
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  book
• 10:46
  business.
• 10:48
  So
• 10:48
  have
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  given
• 10:49
  much
• 10:49
  thought
• 10:49
  to
• 10:50
  how
• 10:50
  do
• 10:50
  you
• 10:50
  develop
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  children's
• 10:52
  book
• 10:53
  business
• 10:53
  for
• 10:53
  yourself?
• 10:55
  That's
• 10:55
  a
• 10:55
  very
• 10:55
  good
• 10:55
  question.
• 10:57
  It
• 10:57
  is
• 10:57
  one
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  those
• 10:58
  things
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  don't
• 10:59
  think
• 10:59
  about.
• 11:00
  As
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  say,
• 11:01
  it
• 11:01
  was
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  first
• 11:02
  it
• 11:03
  was
• 11:03
  writing
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  book,
• 11:05
  then
• 11:05
  it
• 11:05
  was
• 11:06
  convincing
• 11:06
  my
• 11:07
  uncle
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  illustrate
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  book,
• 11:09
  which
• 11:09
  I'm
• 11:10
  happy
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  cover
• 11:10
  later
• 11:11
  as
• 11:11
  well.
• 11:11
  But
• 11:11
  it
• 11:11
  was,
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  was
• 11:12
  a
• 11:12
  lot
• 11:12
  of
• 11:13
  time
• 11:13
  is
• 11:13
  getting
• 11:13
  my
• 11:14
  uncle
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  agree
• 11:14
  to
• 11:15
  do
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  and
• 11:15
  then
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  backwards
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  forwards
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  doing
• 11:16
  that,
• 11:17
  then
• 11:17
  the
• 11:18
  book
• 11:18
  becomes
• 11:19
  live
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  think,
• 11:21
  oh,
• 11:21
  I've
• 11:22
  got
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  tell
• 11:22
  people.
• 11:22
  Exactly,
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  have
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  tell
• 11:24
  people.
• 11:25
  And
• 11:25
  so
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  actually
• 11:27
  have
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  business
• 11:27
  in
• 11:28
  marketing
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  communication
• 11:29
  which
• 11:30
  kind
• 11:30
  of
• 11:30
  gives
• 11:30
  me
• 11:30
  a
• 11:31
  little
• 11:31
  bit
• 11:31
  of
• 11:31
  a
• 11:31
  head
• 11:32
  start,
• 11:32
  if
• 11:32
  you
• 11:32
  like.
• 11:33
  But
• 11:33
  marketing
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  book
• 11:34
  is
• 11:34
  a
• 11:35
  whole
• 11:35
  new
• 11:35
  world.
• 11:36
  Obviously
• 11:36
  you
• 11:37
  start
• 11:37
  off
• 11:37
  by
• 11:37
  telling
• 11:37
  your
• 11:37
  friends
• 11:38
  and
• 11:38
  family.
• 11:38
  They
• 11:38
  knew
• 11:39
  it
• 11:39
  was
• 11:39
  coming
• 11:39
  for
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  long
• 11:40
  time,
• 11:40
  they
• 11:40
  were
• 11:40
  all
• 11:40
  very
• 11:41
  excited.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  know
• 11:42
  a
• 11:42
  lot
• 11:43
  of
• 11:43
  people
• 11:43
  with
• 11:43
  children,
• 11:44
  so
• 11:44
  that
• 11:45
  also
• 11:45
  helps.
• 11:45
  I
• 11:46
  know
• 11:46
  a
• 11:46
  Few
• 11:46
  teachers.
• 11:47
  That
• 11:47
  also
• 11:47
  helps.
• 11:48
  So
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  posted
• 11:49
  on
• 11:50
  my
• 11:50
  social
• 11:50
  Media,
• 11:51
  on
• 11:51
  my
• 11:51
  LinkedIn,
• 11:51
  on
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  Facebook,
• 11:52
  that
• 11:53
  it
• 11:53
  was
• 11:53
  live
• 11:54
  because
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  my
• 11:56
  business
• 11:56
  and
• 11:57
  my
• 11:57
  professional
• 11:58
  career.
• 11:59
  I've
• 11:59
  got
• 11:59
  a
• 11:59
  lot
• 11:59
  of
• 12:00
  contacts
• 12:00
  on
• 12:00
  LinkedIn
• 12:01
  so
• 12:01
  that
• 12:01
  also
• 12:02
  helped.
• 12:03
  But
• 12:03
  once
• 12:03
  that
• 12:04
  first
• 12:04
  flurry
• 12:05
  goes,
• 12:06
  it's,
• 12:07
  oh,
• 12:07
  now
• 12:07
  what?
• 12:09
  So
• 12:10
  then
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  have
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  think
• 12:10
  of
• 12:11
  it
• 12:11
  as
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  business
• 12:11
  and
• 12:12
  you'll
• 12:13
  laugh
• 12:13
  at
• 12:13
  me.
• 12:13
  So
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  was
• 12:14
  launching
• 12:14
  the
• 12:15
  book
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  first
• 12:16
  week
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  August
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  was
• 12:18
  also
• 12:18
  launching
• 12:18
  something
• 12:19
  new
• 12:19
  with
• 12:19
  my
• 12:19
  business
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  first
• 12:20
  week
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  August.
• 12:21
  And
• 12:21
  in
• 12:22
  my
• 12:22
  head
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  thought
• 12:23
  they're
• 12:23
  two
• 12:23
  different
• 12:23
  things.
• 12:24
  It's
• 12:24
  a
• 12:25
  personal
• 12:25
  thing
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  it's
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  professional
• 12:26
  thing.
• 12:27
  My
• 12:28
  advice
• 12:28
  is
• 12:28
  don't
• 12:29
  ever
• 12:29
  do
• 12:29
  that
• 12:30
  because
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  was
• 12:31
  literally
• 12:32
  launching
• 12:32
  two
• 12:32
  business
• 12:34
  journeys
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  same
• 12:36
  week
• 12:36
  and
• 12:36
  it
• 12:36
  was
• 12:36
  using
• 12:37
  my
• 12:37
  brain.
• 12:39
  So
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  have
• 12:40
  taken
• 12:40
  a
• 12:40
  slightly
• 12:41
  different
• 12:41
  approach
• 12:42
  since
• 12:42
  then.
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  went
• 12:43
  to
• 12:44
  local
• 12:44
  bookstores,
• 12:45
  asked
• 12:46
  if
• 12:46
  they
• 12:46
  would
• 12:46
  be
• 12:46
  interested,
• 12:47
  which
• 12:47
  led
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  a
• 12:48
  book
• 12:48
  reading,
• 12:49
  which
• 12:49
  then
• 12:49
  means
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  have
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  advertise
• 12:51
  your
• 12:51
  book
• 12:51
  reading.
• 12:52
  I
• 12:53
  have
• 12:53
  reached
• 12:53
  out
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  other
• 12:54
  bookstores
• 12:55
  in
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  area.
• 12:55
  So
• 12:56
  someone
• 12:56
  else
• 12:56
  has
• 12:56
  taken
• 12:57
  it
• 12:57
  on,
• 12:57
  but
• 12:57
  that's
• 12:58
  on
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  consignment
• 12:59
  basis,
• 12:59
  which
• 12:59
  is
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  whole
• 13:00
  other
• 13:00
  world
• 13:00
  I've
• 13:01
  had
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  learn
• 13:01
  about.
• 13:02
  And
• 13:03
  then
• 13:03
  it's
• 13:03
  them,
• 13:04
  what
• 13:04
  else
• 13:04
  do
• 13:04
  you
• 13:05
  do
• 13:05
  with
• 13:05
  it?
• 13:06
  So
• 13:06
  I'm
• 13:06
  still
• 13:07
  very
• 13:08
  much
• 13:08
  in
• 13:08
  my
• 13:08
  early
• 13:09
  days
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  working
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  out.
• 13:11
  You
• 13:12
  have
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  influencers
• 13:13
  who
• 13:13
  find
• 13:14
  out
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  they
• 13:14
  reach
• 13:14
  out
• 13:14
  to
• 13:15
  you
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  say,
• 13:15
  for
• 13:15
  a
• 13:16
  fee,
• 13:16
  do
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  want
• 13:16
  us
• 13:17
  to
• 13:17
  promote
• 13:17
  your
• 13:18
  book?
• 13:18
  And
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  have
• 13:19
  said
• 13:19
  no,
• 13:19
  that's
• 13:20
  not
• 13:20
  why
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  got
• 13:20
  into
• 13:21
  this
• 13:21
  form.
• 13:21
  This
• 13:22
  isn't
• 13:22
  meant
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  be
• 13:23
  the
• 13:24
  biggest
• 13:24
  money
• 13:25
  making
• 13:26
  activity.
• 13:27
  This
• 13:27
  was
• 13:27
  for
• 13:27
  me
• 13:27
  to
• 13:28
  get
• 13:28
  my
• 13:28
  granddad's
• 13:29
  story
• 13:29
  out
• 13:29
  there.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:31
  I'm
• 13:31
  not
• 13:31
  looking
• 13:31
  to
• 13:32
  invest
• 13:32
  more
• 13:33
  money
• 13:33
  into
• 13:33
  influencers
• 13:34
  and
• 13:35
  things.
• 13:35
  That's
• 13:35
  a
• 13:35
  personal
• 13:36
  choice.
• 13:37
  But
• 13:37
  I
• 13:38
  have
• 13:38
  signed
• 13:38
  up
• 13:38
  for
• 13:39
  a
• 13:39
  Christmas
• 13:39
  market
• 13:40
  in
• 13:40
  my
• 13:40
  town.
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:41
  going
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  be
• 13:42
  sending
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  book
• 13:43
  to
• 13:43
  see
• 13:43
  if
• 13:43
  anyone
• 13:44
  wants
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  for
• 13:44
  their
• 13:45
  children,
• 13:45
  grandchildren
• 13:46
  for
• 13:46
  Christmas.
• 13:46
  Good
• 13:47
  for
• 13:47
  you.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:48
  then
• 13:48
  we'll
• 13:48
  just
• 13:48
  see
• 13:49
  because
• 13:49
  that's
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  risk
• 13:49
  in
• 13:50
  itself.
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  have
• 13:50
  to
• 13:51
  as
• 13:51
  you've
• 13:51
  got
• 13:51
  to
• 13:51
  order
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  book
• 13:52
  out
• 13:53
  of
• 13:53
  your
• 13:53
  own
• 13:53
  pocket
• 13:54
  to
• 13:54
  then
• 13:54
  sell.
• 13:55
  So
• 13:55
  then
• 13:56
  it's
• 13:56
  how
• 13:56
  many
• 13:56
  authors
• 13:57
  do
• 13:57
  you,
• 13:58
  how
• 13:58
  many
• 13:58
  copies
• 13:59
  do
• 13:59
  you
• 13:59
  order?
• 13:59
  So
• 14:00
  you
• 14:00
  don't
• 14:00
  have
• 14:01
  tons
• 14:01
  in
• 14:01
  your
• 14:02
  own
• 14:02
  home?
• 14:03
  Yes,
• 14:04
  forever.
• 14:04
  So
• 14:05
  I'm
• 14:05
  very
• 14:05
  much
• 14:05
  learning.
• 14:06
  But
• 14:06
  yes,
• 14:06
  it
• 14:07
  is
• 14:07
  a
• 14:07
  business
• 14:08
  world
• 14:08
  and
• 14:09
  that
• 14:09
  is
• 14:09
  very
• 14:09
  much
• 14:10
  something
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  keep
• 14:10
  in
• 14:10
  mind.
• 14:11
  Thank
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  for
• 14:12
  sharing
• 14:12
  that
• 14:12
  because
• 14:13
  just
• 14:13
  was
• 14:13
  talking
• 14:14
  to
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  lady
• 14:15
  who
• 14:15
  wrote
• 14:16
  Shirley
• 14:16
  Merle.
• 14:17
  It's
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  book
• 14:18
  series
• 14:18
  that
• 14:19
  she
• 14:19
  wrote
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  England
• 14:21
  and
• 14:22
  we
• 14:22
  were
• 14:22
  talking
• 14:22
  about
• 14:23
  her
• 14:23
  second
• 14:23
  book
• 14:24
  called
• 14:24
  Shirley
• 14:24
  Merle
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  Clever
• 14:25
  Trevor.
• 14:27
  But
• 14:27
  she
• 14:27
  was
• 14:28
  talking
• 14:28
  about
• 14:29
  what
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  just
• 14:29
  mentioned
• 14:30
  about
• 14:30
  these
• 14:30
  influencers
• 14:31
  because
• 14:32
  she
• 14:32
  has
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  pretty
• 14:33
  large
• 14:34
  Instagram
• 14:35
  following.
• 14:36
  But
• 14:36
  she
• 14:36
  was
• 14:36
  finding
• 14:37
  that
• 14:38
  people
• 14:38
  were
• 14:39
  coming
• 14:39
  out
• 14:39
  of
• 14:39
  the
• 14:40
  woodwork
• 14:40
  to
• 14:41
  tell
• 14:41
  her
• 14:41
  how
• 14:41
  they
• 14:42
  could
• 14:42
  help
• 14:42
  her
• 14:43
  sell
• 14:43
  thousands
• 14:43
  of
• 14:44
  copies.
• 14:45
  And
• 14:45
  she
• 14:45
  said
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  me,
• 14:46
  she
• 14:46
  said,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  know
• 14:47
  what,
• 14:47
  Rick?
• 14:47
  After
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  gave
• 14:48
  it
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  lot
• 14:48
  of
• 14:49
  consideration,
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  decided
• 14:50
  I'm
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  going
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  pay
• 14:52
  for
• 14:52
  this.
• 14:53
  What
• 14:53
  I'm
• 14:53
  going
• 14:53
  to
• 14:53
  do
• 14:54
  is
• 14:54
  see
• 14:54
  if
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  can
• 14:55
  find
• 14:55
  influencers
• 14:56
  who
• 14:57
  will
• 14:57
  do
• 14:57
  it
• 14:57
  for
• 14:58
  free
• 14:58
  or
• 14:59
  at
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  very
• 15:00
  least,
• 15:00
  they'll
• 15:00
  do
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  for
• 15:02
  receiving
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  copy
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  my
• 15:03
  book.
• 15:04
  And
• 15:04
  she
• 15:05
  said,
• 15:06
  I
• 15:06
  have
• 15:06
  been
• 15:07
  pleasantly
• 15:08
  surprised
• 15:09
  at
• 15:10
  how
• 15:11
  just
• 15:11
  offering
• 15:12
  someone
• 15:13
  who's
• 15:13
  an
• 15:13
  influencer
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  copy
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  my
• 15:15
  book
• 15:15
  has
• 15:16
  worked
• 15:16
  extremely
• 15:17
  well
• 15:17
  for
• 15:17
  me.
• 15:18
  Maybe
• 15:18
  looking
• 15:19
  through
• 15:20
  Instagram
• 15:20
  or
• 15:21
  Facebook
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  see
• 15:22
  who
• 15:22
  influencers
• 15:23
  are
• 15:23
  and
• 15:23
  seeing
• 15:25
  if
• 15:25
  they're
• 15:26
  not
• 15:26
  asking
• 15:26
  for
• 15:27
  money,
• 15:27
  maybe
• 15:27
  those
• 15:28
  are
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  people
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  talk
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  seeing
• 15:30
  just
• 15:30
  offering
• 15:31
  them
• 15:31
  your
• 15:31
  book
• 15:32
  might
• 15:32
  be
• 15:32
  a
• 15:33
  very
• 15:33
  inexpensive
• 15:34
  way
• 15:34
  to
• 15:35
  help
• 15:35
  promote
• 15:35
  your
• 15:35
  book.
• 15:36
  Took
• 15:36
  that
• 15:36
  lesson
• 15:37
  today
• 15:37
  and
• 15:37
  I've
• 15:37
  been
• 15:37
  at
• 15:38
  this
• 15:38
  for
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  couple
• 15:38
  of
• 15:39
  years.
• 15:39
  Now,
• 15:39
  so
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  hadn't
• 15:41
  considered
• 15:41
  that.
• 15:41
  I
• 15:42
  thank
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  very
• 15:42
  much
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  tip
• 15:43
  and
• 15:43
  I'll
• 15:44
  look
• 15:44
  into
• 15:44
  that
• 15:44
  for
• 15:44
  sure.
• 15:45
  No
• 15:45
  problem.
• 15:46
  Now,
• 15:46
  I
• 15:47
  noticed
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  course
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  have
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  soft
• 15:49
  cover
• 15:49
  of
• 15:49
  your
• 15:49
  book
• 15:50
  and
• 15:51
  you
• 15:51
  also
• 15:51
  have
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  ebook
• 15:53
  and
• 15:55
  do
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  have
• 15:55
  plans
• 15:56
  for
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  hardcover?
• 15:58
  I.
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  don't.
• 15:59
  I'll
• 15:59
  never
• 15:59
  say
• 16:00
  never
• 16:00
  for
• 16:01
  now,
• 16:02
  as
• 16:02
  you
• 16:02
  so
• 16:02
  obviously
• 16:03
  Amazon,
• 16:03
  they
• 16:03
  don't
• 16:03
  offer
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  hard
• 16:05
  copy.
• 16:05
  Hardcover
• 16:06
  copy,
• 16:07
  yes.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:08
  when
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  was
• 16:09
  first
• 16:09
  looking
• 16:10
  into
• 16:10
  how
• 16:10
  on
• 16:11
  earth
• 16:11
  do
• 16:11
  you
• 16:12
  self
• 16:12
  publish?
• 16:13
  Thankfully.
• 16:13
  So
• 16:13
  my
• 16:14
  uncle,
• 16:15
  he
• 16:15
  had
• 16:15
  already
• 16:16
  self
• 16:16
  published
• 16:17
  children's
• 16:17
  books.
• 16:18
  He
• 16:18
  is
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  graphic
• 16:19
  designer
• 16:20
  and
• 16:20
  obviously
• 16:20
  it
• 16:21
  was
• 16:21
  nice
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  keep
• 16:21
  it
• 16:21
  in
• 16:21
  the
• 16:22
  family
• 16:22
  as
• 16:22
  well.
• 16:22
  I
• 16:23
  had
• 16:23
  spoken
• 16:23
  to
• 16:23
  him
• 16:24
  about
• 16:25
  how
• 16:25
  do
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  even
• 16:25
  do
• 16:26
  this?
• 16:26
  I'd
• 16:26
  heard
• 16:26
  obviously
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  publishing
• 16:28
  through
• 16:28
  Amazon.
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  looked
• 16:29
  up
• 16:29
  ingramspark
• 16:32
  and
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  gave
• 16:32
  me
• 16:32
  a
• 16:32
  headache.
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  looked
• 16:33
  up
• 16:34
  some
• 16:34
  other
• 16:34
  options
• 16:35
  and
• 16:36
  before
• 16:36
  that
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  did
• 16:37
  reach
• 16:37
  out
• 16:38
  to
• 16:38
  agencies.
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  sent
• 16:40
  my
• 16:40
  first
• 16:40
  draft,
• 16:41
  which
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  very
• 16:42
  different
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  what
• 16:44
  I've
• 16:44
  actually
• 16:44
  ended
• 16:44
  up
• 16:45
  publishing.
• 16:46
  But
• 16:46
  I
• 16:47
  sent
• 16:47
  that
• 16:47
  out
• 16:47
  and
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  just
• 16:48
  wasn't
• 16:48
  hearing
• 16:48
  back.
• 16:49
  So
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  decided,
• 16:49
  no,
• 16:50
  I'll
• 16:50
  do
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  self
• 16:51
  publishing
• 16:51
  route.
• 16:52
  But
• 16:52
  my
• 16:52
  uncle
• 16:52
  asked
• 16:53
  me
• 16:53
  at
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  time,
• 16:54
  if
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  publish
• 16:55
  through
• 16:55
  say
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  local
• 16:57
  book
• 16:57
  printer,
• 16:58
  you
• 16:58
  could
• 16:58
  get
• 16:58
  a
• 16:58
  hard
• 16:59
  copy.
• 16:59
  And
• 16:59
  he
• 17:00
  showed
• 17:00
  me
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  hard
• 17:00
  copy
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  a
• 17:01
  children's
• 17:01
  book
• 17:01
  he
• 17:02
  had
• 17:02
  done.
• 17:03
  But
• 17:03
  then
• 17:03
  that's
• 17:03
  the
• 17:04
  whole
• 17:04
  issue
• 17:05
  with
• 17:05
  then
• 17:06
  you
• 17:06
  are
• 17:06
  investing
• 17:07
  money
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  get
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  printed.
• 17:09
  For
• 17:10
  me
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  have
• 17:10
  all
• 17:10
  the
• 17:10
  copies
• 17:11
  in
• 17:11
  my
• 17:11
  home,
• 17:12
  I
• 17:12
  then
• 17:12
  have
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  Work
• 17:12
  out
• 17:13
  distribution.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  then
• 17:14
  it's
• 17:15
  way
• 17:15
  more
• 17:15
  of
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  business
• 17:16
  than
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  have
• 17:18
  signed
• 17:18
  up
• 17:18
  to
• 17:18
  at
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  point.
• 17:19
  Whereas
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  Amazon
• 17:21
  there
• 17:21
  are
• 17:22
  pros
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  cons
• 17:22
  for
• 17:23
  sure.
• 17:23
  But
• 17:23
  for
• 17:23
  me
• 17:23
  it
• 17:24
  was
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  convenience.
• 17:24
  That
• 17:25
  one,
• 17:26
  it
• 17:26
  means
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  I
• 17:27
  can't
• 17:27
  have
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  hard
• 17:28
  back
• 17:28
  version.
• 17:30
  Does
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  mean
• 17:31
  I
• 17:31
  could
• 17:31
  do
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  in
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  future?
• 17:32
  Maybe.
• 17:32
  I
• 17:33
  don't
• 17:33
  know.
• 17:34
  But
• 17:34
  it
• 17:34
  all.
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  suppose
• 17:35
  it
• 17:35
  all
• 17:35
  depends
• 17:36
  how
• 17:36
  the
• 17:37
  next
• 17:37
  year
• 17:37
  goes.
• 17:38
  I've
• 17:38
  also
• 17:38
  had
• 17:38
  questions.
• 17:39
  Are
• 17:39
  you
• 17:39
  writing
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  second
• 17:40
  book?
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  you
• 17:41
  think,
• 17:41
  oh
• 17:41
  my
• 17:41
  God,
• 17:41
  I've
• 17:41
  only
• 17:41
  just
• 17:42
  done
• 17:42
  this
• 17:42
  one.
• 17:43
  So
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  think
• 17:44
  it's
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  case
• 17:45
  of
• 17:46
  I'm
• 17:46
  enjoying
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  journey.
• 17:48
  Okay.
• 17:48
  And,
• 17:48
  and
• 17:49
  we'll,
• 17:49
  we
• 17:49
  will
• 17:50
  see.
• 17:50
  Because
• 17:50
  I've
• 17:51
  even.
• 17:51
  I
• 17:51
  know
• 17:51
  you've
• 17:52
  got
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  bear
• 17:52
  as
• 17:53
  well
• 17:53
  behind
• 17:53
  you.
• 17:54
  Yes.
• 17:54
  I've
• 17:54
  been
• 17:55
  asked,
• 17:55
  oh,
• 17:55
  you're
• 17:55
  gonna
• 17:56
  have
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  frog.
• 17:57
  Stuffy
• 17:58
  or
• 17:58
  plushy?
• 17:58
  I
• 17:59
  don't
• 17:59
  know,
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  just,
• 17:59
  I've
• 18:00
  just
• 18:00
  written
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  book,
• 18:00
  so
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  think
• 18:01
  it's
• 18:02
  just,
• 18:02
  it's
• 18:03
  enjoying
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  process.
• 18:04
  Enjoying
• 18:05
  things
• 18:05
  like
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  book
• 18:06
  readings,
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  Christmas
• 18:08
  market,
• 18:09
  and
• 18:09
  then
• 18:09
  let's
• 18:10
  see
• 18:10
  what
• 18:10
  happens
• 18:11
  next
• 18:11
  year.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:12
  that's
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  beautiful
• 18:13
  thing
• 18:13
  about
• 18:14
  children's
• 18:14
  books
• 18:15
  is
• 18:15
  that
• 18:15
  they're
• 18:16
  timeless.
• 18:17
  Yeah,
• 18:17
  they
• 18:17
  really
• 18:18
  are.
• 18:19
  And
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  also
• 18:19
  get
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  new
• 18:20
  audience
• 18:21
  every
• 18:21
  year
• 18:22
  because.
• 18:22
  Yeah,
• 18:23
  of
• 18:23
  course.
• 18:24
  Bringing
• 18:24
  children
• 18:24
  into
• 18:25
  this
• 18:25
  world.
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  love
• 18:27
  that.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  hadn't
• 18:28
  ever
• 18:28
  thought
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  that.
• 18:28
  That's
• 18:29
  brilliant.
• 18:29
  What
• 18:29
  do
• 18:30
  they
• 18:30
  call
• 18:30
  it?
• 18:30
  Renewable
• 18:31
  resource.
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  love
• 18:33
  that.
• 18:33
  It's
• 18:34
  a
• 18:34
  gift
• 18:34
  that
• 18:34
  just
• 18:34
  keeps
• 18:35
  on
• 18:35
  giving
• 18:35
  and
• 18:36
  it
• 18:36
  makes
• 18:36
  your
• 18:36
  children's
• 18:37
  book
• 18:37
  timeless.
• 18:38
  You're
• 18:39
  absolutely
• 18:39
  right.
• 18:39
  And
• 18:40
  that's
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  reason
• 18:40
  I
• 18:41
  bring
• 18:41
  this
• 18:41
  up
• 18:42
  is
• 18:43
  as
• 18:43
  we
• 18:43
  get
• 18:44
  some
• 18:44
  of
• 18:45
  our
• 18:45
  audience,
• 18:45
  as
• 18:45
  I
• 18:46
  mentioned
• 18:46
  before,
• 18:46
  is
• 18:47
  aspiring
• 18:48
  children's
• 18:48
  book
• 18:48
  authors.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:50
  so
• 18:50
  by
• 18:50
  you
• 18:51
  sharing,
• 18:52
  they
• 18:52
  can
• 18:52
  get
• 18:52
  into
• 18:53
  your
• 18:53
  head
• 18:53
  and
• 18:54
  then
• 18:54
  because
• 18:54
  they're
• 18:55
  having
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  same
• 18:55
  thoughts.
• 18:56
  And
• 18:56
  so
• 18:57
  did
• 18:57
  we.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:58
  when
• 18:58
  we
• 18:58
  brought
• 18:58
  out
• 18:58
  our
• 18:59
  first
• 18:59
  book,
• 18:59
  the
• 19:00
  next
• 19:00
  question
• 19:00
  was,
• 19:01
  oh,
• 19:02
  when
• 19:02
  are
• 19:02
  you
• 19:02
  coming
• 19:02
  out
• 19:02
  with
• 19:03
  your
• 19:03
  second
• 19:03
  book?
• 19:04
  And
• 19:05
  eventually
• 19:05
  we
• 19:06
  did,
• 19:06
  but
• 19:06
  it
• 19:07
  was
• 19:07
  about
• 19:07
  an
• 19:08
  18
• 19:08
  month
• 19:08
  journey.
• 19:10
  And
• 19:11
  a
• 19:11
  lot
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  times
• 19:12
  as
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  self
• 19:13
  published,
• 19:14
  indie
• 19:14
  published
• 19:15
  children's
• 19:16
  book
• 19:16
  author,
• 19:16
  or
• 19:17
  even
• 19:17
  self
• 19:17
  published,
• 19:18
  a
• 19:19
  lot
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  times
• 19:20
  we
• 19:21
  tend
• 19:21
  to
• 19:22
  get
• 19:22
  ahead
• 19:22
  of
• 19:22
  ourselves
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  we'll
• 19:24
  publish
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  next
• 19:24
  book
• 19:25
  before
• 19:25
  we
• 19:25
  have
• 19:26
  ever
• 19:26
  recouped
• 19:27
  our
• 19:28
  initial
• 19:28
  investment.
• 19:30
  I'm
• 19:30
  glad
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  said
• 19:30
  that
• 19:31
  because
• 19:31
  I
• 19:32
  love
• 19:32
  a
• 19:32
  spreadsheet.
• 19:33
  I
• 19:34
  have
• 19:34
  spreadsheets
• 19:35
  coming
• 19:35
  out
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  my
• 19:35
  ears
• 19:35
  for
• 19:36
  all
• 19:36
  various
• 19:36
  things.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  sat
• 19:37
  there
• 19:37
  this
• 19:38
  week
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  actually
• 19:39
  made
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  spreadsheet
• 19:41
  of
• 19:42
  what
• 19:42
  I
• 19:43
  have
• 19:43
  done
• 19:43
  so
• 19:43
  far.
• 19:44
  So
• 19:44
  how
• 19:44
  many
• 19:44
  copies
• 19:45
  I've
• 19:45
  ordered
• 19:46
  from
• 19:46
  Amazon
• 19:47
  then?
• 19:47
  How
• 19:47
  many
• 19:47
  have
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  sold?
• 19:48
  How
• 19:48
  many
• 19:48
  have
• 19:49
  I
• 19:49
  Gifted.
• 19:50
  How
• 19:50
  many
• 19:51
  have
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  sent
• 19:52
  out
• 19:52
  to
• 19:52
  people
• 19:52
  for
• 19:53
  review
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  owe
• 19:54
  me
• 19:54
  them
• 19:55
  back
• 19:56
  so
• 19:56
  that
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  can
• 19:56
  keep
• 19:56
  a
• 19:57
  track?
• 19:57
  But
• 19:57
  also,
• 19:58
  how
• 19:58
  much
• 19:58
  money
• 19:58
  does
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  Galloping
• 19:59
  Frog
• 20:00
  owe
• 20:00
  me
• 20:00
  because
• 20:01
  I've
• 20:02
  had
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  buy
• 20:03
  these
• 20:03
  copies?
• 20:04
  Amazon
• 20:05
  takes
• 20:05
  two
• 20:05
  months
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  pay
• 20:06
  out.
• 20:07
  I,
• 20:08
  although
• 20:08
  I
• 20:09
  did
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  book
• 20:09
  reading
• 20:10
  and
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  bookstore
• 20:11
  gave
• 20:11
  me
• 20:11
  some
• 20:11
  money
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  hasn't
• 20:12
  yet,
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  haven't
• 20:13
  yet
• 20:14
  recuperated
• 20:14
  my
• 20:15
  costs
• 20:16
  from
• 20:16
  all
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  copies
• 20:16
  that
• 20:17
  I
• 20:17
  ordered.
• 20:18
  Then
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  have
• 20:19
  this
• 20:19
  Christmas
• 20:19
  market
• 20:20
  coming
• 20:20
  up
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  you
• 20:21
  think
• 20:21
  for
• 20:22
  round
• 20:22
  numbers,
• 20:22
  if
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  order
• 20:23
  a
• 20:23
  hundred
• 20:23
  copies,
• 20:24
  which
• 20:24
  is
• 20:24
  very
• 20:24
  ambitious,
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  it's
• 20:26
  $5
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  print,
• 20:27
  that's
• 20:28
  $500
• 20:29
  plus
• 20:30
  delivery,
• 20:30
  plus
• 20:31
  GST
• 20:32
  out
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  my
• 20:33
  own
• 20:33
  money
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  might
• 20:35
  sell
• 20:35
  two.
• 20:36
  So
• 20:37
  it's
• 20:37
  trying
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  work
• 20:38
  out
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  balance
• 20:38
  of.
• 20:40
  You're
• 20:40
  completely
• 20:40
  right.
• 20:41
  It's
• 20:41
  the
• 20:42
  how
• 20:42
  much
• 20:43
  do
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  want
• 20:43
  to
• 20:43
  invest
• 20:43
  now
• 20:44
  and
• 20:45
  how
• 20:45
  much
• 20:45
  do
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  want
• 20:46
  to
• 20:46
  push
• 20:46
  this
• 20:46
  out
• 20:47
  now?
• 20:48
  And
• 20:48
  also
• 20:48
  then
• 20:49
  are
• 20:49
  you
• 20:49
  losing
• 20:50
  the
• 20:50
  love
• 20:50
  of
• 20:50
  it
• 20:50
  because
• 20:51
  you're
• 20:51
  turning
• 20:51
  it
• 20:51
  more
• 20:51
  and
• 20:52
  more
• 20:52
  into
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  business
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  less
• 20:53
  into
• 20:54
  what
• 20:54
  you
• 20:54
  set
• 20:55
  out
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  do
• 20:55
  in
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  first
• 20:55
  place?
• 20:56
  So
• 20:56
  I'm
• 20:57
  just
• 20:57
  trying
• 20:57
  to,
• 20:57
  I'm
• 20:58
  trying
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  balance
• 20:58
  it
• 20:58
  all.
• 20:59
  I
• 20:59
  don't
• 20:59
  want
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  be
• 20:59
  massively
• 21:00
  out
• 21:00
  of
• 21:00
  pocket
• 21:01
  equally.
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  don't
• 21:02
  want
• 21:02
  it
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  become
• 21:05
  all
• 21:05
  encompassing.
• 21:06
  I
• 21:06
  just
• 21:06
  want
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  enjoy
• 21:08
  why
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  wrote
• 21:08
  it
• 21:08
  in
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  first
• 21:09
  place,
• 21:09
  which
• 21:09
  is
• 21:10
  then
• 21:10
  going
• 21:10
  to
• 21:10
  readings,
• 21:11
  going
• 21:11
  to
• 21:11
  preschools,
• 21:12
  talking
• 21:13
  to
• 21:13
  children
• 21:13
  about
• 21:14
  it.
• 21:14
  But
• 21:15
  it
• 21:15
  would
• 21:15
  be
• 21:15
  nice
• 21:15
  not
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  be
• 21:16
  hundreds
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  dollars
• 21:17
  behind
• 21:18
  at
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  same
• 21:19
  time.
• 21:19
  And
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  beautiful
• 21:20
  thing
• 21:20
  about
• 21:21
  Amazon
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  because
• 21:22
  it's
• 21:23
  print
• 21:23
  on
• 21:23
  demand,
• 21:24
  unless
• 21:25
  you're
• 21:25
  doing,
• 21:25
  like
• 21:26
  you
• 21:26
  said,
• 21:26
  going
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  Christmas
• 21:28
  market
• 21:28
  where
• 21:28
  you
• 21:28
  don't
• 21:29
  actually
• 21:29
  know
• 21:30
  how
• 21:30
  many
• 21:30
  you're
• 21:30
  going
• 21:30
  to
• 21:31
  sell,
• 21:32
  that
• 21:32
  becomes
• 21:33
  an
• 21:34
  investment
• 21:34
  because
• 21:35
  you're
• 21:35
  probably
• 21:35
  going
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  buy
• 21:37
  more
• 21:37
  than
• 21:38
  you're
• 21:38
  going
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  sell.
• 21:40
  That's
• 21:40
  always
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  challenge.
• 21:41
  Whereas
• 21:43
  if
• 21:43
  you
• 21:43
  selling
• 21:44
  through
• 21:44
  Amazon
• 21:45
  on
• 21:45
  print
• 21:46
  on
• 21:46
  demand
• 21:47
  takes
• 21:47
  the
• 21:48
  pain
• 21:48
  of
• 21:49
  tying
• 21:49
  up
• 21:49
  a
• 21:50
  large
• 21:50
  investment
• 21:51
  into
• 21:51
  your
• 21:51
  book.
• 21:51
  So
• 21:52
  it's
• 21:52
  definitely
• 21:52
  a
• 21:53
  balancing
• 21:53
  act
• 21:54
  for
• 21:54
  sure.
• 21:55
  Yeah,
• 21:55
  absolutely.
• 21:56
  And
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  is
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  thing
• 21:57
  that
• 21:57
  you
• 21:57
  said
• 21:57
  earlier
• 21:58
  is
• 21:58
  this
• 21:58
  is
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  stage
• 21:59
  you
• 21:59
  don't
• 21:59
  think
• 21:59
  about
• 22:00
  when
• 22:00
  you're
• 22:00
  just
• 22:00
  trying
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  come
• 22:01
  up
• 22:01
  with
• 22:01
  a
• 22:02
  creative
• 22:02
  idea.
• 22:03
  Mine's
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  rhyming
• 22:05
  book,
• 22:05
  so
• 22:05
  I'm
• 22:05
  spending
• 22:05
  all
• 22:06
  this
• 22:06
  time
• 22:06
  thinking
• 22:06
  of
• 22:06
  rhyming
• 22:07
  words
• 22:07
  and
• 22:08
  words
• 22:08
  that
• 22:09
  children
• 22:09
  will
• 22:09
  resonate
• 22:10
  with.
• 22:11
  You
• 22:11
  don't
• 22:11
  think,
• 22:11
  what
• 22:12
  is
• 22:12
  my
• 22:12
  profit
• 22:12
  margin
• 22:13
  going
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  be
• 22:13
  between
• 22:14
  Amazon
• 22:15
  online
• 22:15
  and
• 22:15
  a
• 22:16
  Christmas
• 22:16
  market?
• 22:17
  Your
• 22:17
  brain
• 22:17
  just
• 22:17
  doesn't
• 22:18
  go
• 22:18
  there.
• 22:18
  No,
• 22:19
  but
• 22:20
  it
• 22:20
  is
• 22:20
  important
• 22:21
  when
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  are
• 22:21
  thinking
• 22:22
  about
• 22:22
  even
• 22:23
  things
• 22:23
  like
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  hardback
• 22:25
  cover.
• 22:26
  If
• 22:26
  you
• 22:26
  want
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  Go
• 22:27
  and
• 22:27
  get
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  printed.
• 22:29
  That
• 22:29
  is
• 22:29
  an
• 22:29
  investment.
• 22:30
  And
• 22:30
  then
• 22:30
  you're
• 22:30
  going
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  have
• 22:30
  all
• 22:30
  these
• 22:31
  books
• 22:31
  in
• 22:31
  your
• 22:31
  house.
• 22:31
  So
• 22:32
  unless
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  know
• 22:32
  that
• 22:33
  you're
• 22:33
  going
• 22:33
  to
• 22:33
  go
• 22:33
  and
• 22:34
  do
• 22:34
  those
• 22:34
  sales,
• 22:35
  it's
• 22:36
  a
• 22:36
  very
• 22:36
  interesting
• 22:37
  journey.
• 22:38
  I've
• 22:38
  had
• 22:38
  a
• 22:38
  lot
• 22:38
  of
• 22:39
  growth
• 22:40
  this.
• 22:40
  Year,
• 22:41
  personal
• 22:41
  growth,
• 22:41
  and
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  love
• 22:42
  this.
• 22:42
  Sharing
• 22:43
  is
• 22:43
  so
• 22:43
  that
• 22:44
  aspiring
• 22:44
  book
• 22:45
  authors
• 22:45
  know
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  in
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  beginning
• 22:47
  it's
• 22:47
  going
• 22:47
  to
• 22:48
  be
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  slow
• 22:48
  and
• 22:49
  steady
• 22:50
  wins
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  race.
• 22:51
  As
• 22:51
  long
• 22:51
  as
• 22:51
  you
• 22:51
  keep
• 22:52
  doing
• 22:52
  something
• 22:53
  every
• 22:53
  day
• 22:54
  that
• 22:54
  gets
• 22:55
  your
• 22:55
  book
• 22:56
  out
• 22:56
  into
• 22:56
  the
• 22:57
  world,
• 22:58
  at
• 22:58
  some
• 22:58
  point
• 22:59
  you'll
• 23:00
  maybe
• 23:00
  pick
• 23:00
  up
• 23:00
  some
• 23:01
  traction
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  take
• 23:02
  it
• 23:02
  from
• 23:03
  there.
• 23:03
  You
• 23:04
  have.
• 23:04
  In
• 23:04
  terms
• 23:05
  of
• 23:06
  your
• 23:06
  publishing,
• 23:07
  you're
• 23:08
  a
• 23:08
  independently
• 23:09
  published
• 23:10
  book,
• 23:10
  correct?
• 23:11
  Yep,
• 23:12
  correct.
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  had
• 23:12
  to
• 23:13
  look
• 23:13
  up
• 23:14
  what
• 23:14
  that
• 23:14
  even
• 23:15
  means.
• 23:15
  So
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  applied
• 23:17
  for
• 23:17
  the
• 23:18
  ISBN
• 23:19
  number,
• 23:20
  which
• 23:20
  was
• 23:20
  very
• 23:21
  easy
• 23:21
  in
• 23:21
  Canada.
• 23:22
  Very
• 23:23
  easy.
• 23:23
  And
• 23:23
  it
• 23:24
  sounds
• 23:24
  like
• 23:24
  it's
• 23:24
  way
• 23:24
  easier
• 23:25
  in
• 23:25
  Canada
• 23:25
  than
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  uk.
• 23:27
  And
• 23:27
  also
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  United
• 23:29
  States,
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  have
• 23:30
  to
• 23:30
  pay
• 23:30
  for
• 23:31
  versus
• 23:31
  Canada.
• 23:32
  It's
• 23:32
  free.
• 23:33
  It's
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  free
• 23:33
  service.
• 23:34
  Free
• 23:35
  and
• 23:35
  easy
• 23:36
  and
• 23:36
  quick.
• 23:37
  Yes.
• 23:37
  And
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  other
• 23:38
  positive
• 23:38
  thing
• 23:38
  about
• 23:39
  it
• 23:39
  is
• 23:40
  that
• 23:41
  versus
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  United
• 23:42
  States,
• 23:42
  a
• 23:43
  lot
• 23:43
  of
• 23:43
  times
• 23:43
  they
• 23:44
  try
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  sell
• 23:44
  it
• 23:45
  in
• 23:45
  bulk.
• 23:46
  So
• 23:46
  they
• 23:46
  try
• 23:47
  and
• 23:47
  convince
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  that
• 23:48
  you
• 23:48
  need.
• 23:48
  You're
• 23:49
  going
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  be
• 23:49
  this
• 23:50
  incredible
• 23:50
  children's
• 23:51
  book
• 23:51
  author
• 23:51
  and
• 23:52
  you
• 23:52
  should
• 23:52
  buy
• 23:53
  10
• 23:54
  right
• 23:54
  away.
• 23:54
  Oh,
• 23:55
  my
• 23:55
  goodness.
• 23:56
  Yeah.
• 23:56
  So,
• 23:56
  yeah.
• 23:57
  So
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  always
• 23:58
  caution
• 23:59
  people,
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  always
• 24:00
  say,
• 24:00
  start
• 24:00
  with
• 24:01
  one.
• 24:02
  Don't
• 24:02
  get
• 24:02
  attracted
• 24:03
  by
• 24:04
  this
• 24:04
  whole
• 24:05
  idea
• 24:05
  that
• 24:06
  all
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  sudden
• 24:06
  you're
• 24:07
  turning
• 24:07
  your
• 24:07
  one
• 24:08
  book
• 24:08
  into
• 24:08
  a
• 24:09
  series
• 24:09
  of
• 24:09
  10
• 24:10
  children's
• 24:10
  books.
• 24:11
  So,
• 24:11
  yeah,
• 24:11
  that
• 24:11
  is
• 24:11
  sneaky.
• 24:12
  No,
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  was
• 24:12
  pleasantly
• 24:13
  surprised
• 24:13
  because
• 24:14
  my
• 24:14
  uncle
• 24:14
  had
• 24:14
  given
• 24:15
  me
• 24:15
  advice
• 24:15
  about
• 24:15
  his
• 24:16
  process
• 24:16
  in
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  uk.
• 24:18
  Canada,
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  think
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  applied.
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  think
• 24:20
  it
• 24:20
  was
• 24:21
  days.
• 24:21
  It
• 24:21
  really
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  quick.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:23
  then
• 24:23
  you
• 24:23
  go
• 24:24
  into
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  Amazon.
• 24:25
  Yeah.
• 24:25
  If
• 24:25
  you
• 24:26
  don't
• 24:26
  mind,
• 24:27
  Karis.
• 24:28
  Oh,
• 24:28
  it's
• 24:29
  actually.
• 24:29
  It's
• 24:30
  instant.
• 24:31
  Yeah.
• 24:32
  I
• 24:32
  remember
• 24:32
  it
• 24:33
  being
• 24:33
  very
• 24:33
  fast.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  then
• 24:34
  you
• 24:35
  put
• 24:35
  all
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  details
• 24:35
  into
• 24:36
  Amazon
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  answer
• 24:38
  all
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  questions.
• 24:38
  So
• 24:39
  that's.
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  say
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  other
• 24:40
  bit
• 24:40
  that
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  hadn't
• 24:42
  quite
• 24:42
  prepared
• 24:42
  for
• 24:43
  is
• 24:43
  when
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  start
• 24:43
  putting
• 24:44
  it
• 24:44
  into
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  Amazon
• 24:46
  system
• 24:47
  and
• 24:47
  it
• 24:47
  starts
• 24:48
  asking
• 24:48
  you
• 24:48
  for
• 24:48
  keywords
• 24:49
  and
• 24:50
  what
• 24:50
  categories
• 24:50
  your
• 24:51
  book
• 24:51
  comes
• 24:51
  under
• 24:52
  and
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  age
• 24:52
  where
• 24:53
  anything.
• 24:54
  Oh,
• 24:54
  God,
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  hadn't
• 24:55
  thought.
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  hadn't
• 24:56
  thought
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  this.
• 24:57
  So
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  started
• 24:58
  doing.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:58
  obviously,
• 24:59
  because
• 24:59
  I'm
• 24:59
  from
• 24:59
  the
• 25:00
  uk,
• 25:01
  it
• 25:01
  was
• 25:01
  asking
• 25:02
  me,
• 25:02
  do
• 25:02
  you
• 25:02
  want
• 25:02
  it
• 25:02
  to
• 25:02
  be
• 25:03
  like,
• 25:03
  what
• 25:04
  market
• 25:04
  do
• 25:04
  you
• 25:04
  want
• 25:04
  it
• 25:04
  to
• 25:05
  be
• 25:05
  sold
• 25:05
  at?
• 25:05
  Do
• 25:05
  you
• 25:05
  want
• 25:06
  Amazon.com
• 25:07
  which
• 25:07
  is
• 25:07
  us
• 25:08
  or
• 25:09
  ca
• 25:10
  or.co.uk.
• 25:11
  and
• 25:12
  whilst
• 25:12
  they
• 25:12
  get
• 25:12
  sold
• 25:13
  across
• 25:13
  all
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  them
• 25:14
  anyway,
• 25:15
  you
• 25:15
  could
• 25:16
  pick
• 25:16
  one.
• 25:16
  So
• 25:16
  then
• 25:16
  I'm
• 25:17
  thinking,
• 25:17
  why
• 25:17
  do
• 25:17
  I
• 25:18
  need
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  pick
• 25:18
  one
• 25:18
  if
• 25:18
  they're
• 25:18
  being
• 25:19
  sold?
• 25:19
  So
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  end
• 25:20
  up.
• 25:20
  Thank
• 25:20
  goodness
• 25:21
  for
• 25:21
  ChatGPT.
• 25:22
  Is
• 25:22
  all
• 25:22
  I'm
• 25:22
  gonna
• 25:23
  say
• 25:23
  is
• 25:23
  because
• 25:24
  we
• 25:24
  were
• 25:24
  going
• 25:24
  backwards
• 25:25
  and
• 25:25
  forwards
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  just
• 25:26
  working
• 25:26
  out
• 25:26
  what
• 25:27
  does
• 25:27
  it
• 25:27
  mean,
• 25:28
  what
• 25:28
  keywords
• 25:29
  do
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  want?
• 25:30
  What
• 25:30
  is
• 25:30
  my
• 25:31
  book
• 25:31
  actually
• 25:31
  about?
• 25:32
  What
• 25:33
  are
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  themes?
• 25:34
  What
• 25:34
  would
• 25:34
  someone
• 25:34
  search
• 25:35
  for
• 25:35
  in
• 25:36
  Amazon
• 25:36
  to
• 25:36
  find
• 25:37
  my
• 25:37
  book?
• 25:38
  So
• 25:38
  I
• 25:39
  was
• 25:39
  a
• 25:39
  little
• 25:40
  bit
• 25:40
  fortunate
• 25:40
  in
• 25:40
  that
• 25:41
  my
• 25:41
  book
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  ready
• 25:41
  in
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  April
• 25:42
  and
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  uploaded
• 25:43
  it
• 25:43
  all,
• 25:44
  but
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  wasn't
• 25:45
  going
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  actually
• 25:46
  make
• 25:46
  it
• 25:47
  public
• 25:47
  until
• 25:48
  August.
• 25:49
  Okay.
• 25:50
  Mainly
• 25:51
  because
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  was
• 25:51
  going
• 25:51
  back
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  UK
• 25:52
  and
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  was
• 25:53
  seeing
• 25:53
  my
• 25:53
  nan
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  I
• 25:54
  wanted
• 25:54
  to
• 25:55
  give
• 25:55
  her
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  first
• 25:55
  copy.
• 25:56
  Oh,
• 25:56
  terrific.
• 25:57
  Isn't
• 25:57
  that
• 25:58
  nice?
• 25:58
  Yes,
• 25:59
  it
• 25:59
  was
• 25:59
  really
• 25:59
  lovely.
• 26:00
  But
• 26:00
  what
• 26:00
  that
• 26:00
  meant
• 26:01
  was,
• 26:01
  although
• 26:01
  I
• 26:01
  put
• 26:02
  all
• 26:02
  the
• 26:02
  information
• 26:02
  in
• 26:03
  April,
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  had
• 26:05
  months
• 26:05
  to
• 26:05
  reflect
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  so
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  could
• 26:08
  go
• 26:08
  back
• 26:08
  in
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  tinker
• 26:09
  with
• 26:09
  it
• 26:09
  before
• 26:09
  it
• 26:09
  then
• 26:10
  went
• 26:10
  live.
• 26:11
  And
• 26:11
  you
• 26:11
  can
• 26:12
  change
• 26:12
  certain
• 26:12
  things
• 26:12
  now,
• 26:13
  like
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  keywords
• 26:13
  and
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  categories.
• 26:14
  But
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  good
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  be
• 26:15
  able
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  play
• 26:16
  with
• 26:16
  that
• 26:16
  and
• 26:17
  give
• 26:17
  myself
• 26:17
  a
• 26:17
  little
• 26:17
  bit
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  time.
• 26:18
  That's
• 26:18
  when
• 26:18
  you
• 26:19
  start
• 26:19
  really
• 26:19
  getting
• 26:19
  into
• 26:19
  the
• 26:20
  marketing
• 26:20
  side
• 26:21
  of
• 26:22
  your
• 26:22
  book.
• 26:22
  It's
• 26:23
  always
• 26:23
  difficult.
• 26:24
  I
• 26:25
  decided
• 26:25
  to
• 26:26
  go
• 26:26
  with
• 26:26
  dot
• 26:26
  com
• 26:28
  and
• 26:28
  then
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  rest
• 26:28
  of
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  world
• 26:30
  and
• 26:31
  that
• 26:31
  was
• 26:31
  just
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  choice
• 26:32
  that
• 26:32
  I
• 26:33
  had
• 26:33
  made.
• 26:34
  But
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  figured
• 26:34
  that
• 26:35
  we've
• 26:35
  got
• 26:35
  a
• 26:35
  big
• 26:36
  juggernaut
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  a
• 26:37
  purchasing
• 26:38
  power
• 26:38
  down
• 26:38
  in
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  US
• 26:39
  so
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  thought,
• 26:41
  okay,
• 26:41
  start
• 26:41
  with.com,
• 26:43
  then.ca
• 26:44
  and
• 26:44
  then
• 26:44
  all
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  other
• 26:45
  markets.
• 26:46
  It
• 26:46
  doesn't
• 26:46
  cost
• 26:47
  you
• 26:47
  anything.
• 26:48
  And
• 26:48
  then
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  could
• 26:49
  say
• 26:49
  you've
• 26:49
  got
• 26:49
  global
• 26:50
  distribution.
• 26:51
  Exactly.
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  think
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  ended
• 26:53
  up
• 26:53
  after
• 26:54
  because
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  was
• 26:55
  trying
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  work
• 26:55
  out
• 26:55
  do
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  pick
• 26:56
  UK
• 26:56
  or
• 26:56
  Canada.
• 26:57
  And
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  think
• 26:58
  in
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  end
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  picked
• 26:58
  UK
• 26:59
  simply
• 26:59
  because
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  knew
• 27:00
  so
• 27:01
  many
• 27:01
  parents
• 27:02
  in
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  uk.
• 27:02
  Okay.
• 27:04
  And
• 27:04
  it
• 27:04
  made.
• 27:05
  So
• 27:06
  from
• 27:06
  what
• 27:06
  I
• 27:06
  understand,
• 27:07
  and
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  may
• 27:08
  know
• 27:08
  a
• 27:09
  lot
• 27:09
  more
• 27:10
  is
• 27:10
  really
• 27:11
  that
• 27:11
  only
• 27:11
  makes
• 27:12
  any
• 27:12
  difference
• 27:12
  if
• 27:12
  you
• 27:12
  think
• 27:13
  you're
• 27:13
  going
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  get
• 27:13
  into
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  top
• 27:14
  10.
• 27:16
  It
• 27:16
  really
• 27:16
  helps
• 27:17
  with
• 27:17
  that
• 27:18
  getting
• 27:18
  up
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  rankings.
• 27:19
  And
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  thought,
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  think
• 27:20
  a
• 27:20
  lot
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  my
• 27:20
  initial
• 27:21
  sales
• 27:21
  at
• 27:21
  least
• 27:22
  are
• 27:22
  going
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  be
• 27:22
  from
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  uk,
• 27:23
  so
• 27:23
  it
• 27:23
  makes
• 27:23
  sense
• 27:24
  for
• 27:24
  me
• 27:24
  to
• 27:24
  put
• 27:24
  that.
• 27:25
  And
• 27:25
  then
• 27:25
  if
• 27:26
  I
• 27:26
  end
• 27:26
  up
• 27:26
  going
• 27:26
  and
• 27:27
  it
• 27:28
  did
• 27:28
  enter,
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  think
• 27:29
  we
• 27:29
  got
• 27:29
  to
• 27:30
  number
• 27:30
  46
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  top
• 27:32
  100
• 27:33
  books
• 27:33
  in
• 27:34
  frogs
• 27:34
  and
• 27:35
  Toads,
• 27:36
  which
• 27:36
  I
• 27:37
  will
• 27:37
  take
• 27:37
  gladly
• 27:39
  in
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  UK
• 27:40
  charts.
• 27:40
  So
• 27:41
  it
• 27:41
  makes
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  bit
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  difference
• 27:42
  in
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  respect.
• 27:43
  But
• 27:44
  otherwise,
• 27:45
  no,
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:46
  available
• 27:46
  in
• 27:46
  all
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  markets
• 27:48
  anyway.
• 27:48
  But
• 27:48
  it's
• 27:49
  one
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  those
• 27:49
  things
• 27:49
  that
• 27:50
  as
• 27:50
  you'll
• 27:50
  go
• 27:50
  through
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  system.
• 27:51
  It's
• 27:51
  another
• 27:51
  question
• 27:53
  that
• 27:53
  makes
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  go,
• 27:54
  oh,
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  don't
• 27:54
  know.
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  want
• 27:55
  my
• 27:55
  book
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  be
• 27:56
  popular.
• 27:57
  I
• 27:58
  don't
• 27:58
  know.
• 27:58
  And
• 27:59
  you
• 27:59
  know
• 27:59
  what's
• 27:59
  interesting
• 28:00
  today?
• 28:01
  When
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  first
• 28:01
  started
• 28:02
  this
• 28:02
  podcast
• 28:03
  show,
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  thought
• 28:04
  most
• 28:04
  of
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  listeners
• 28:05
  would
• 28:05
  be
• 28:07
  from
• 28:07
  Canada
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  U.S.
• 28:09
  a
• 28:09
  North
• 28:09
  American
• 28:10
  thing.
• 28:11
  And
• 28:11
  even
• 28:12
  though
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  majority
• 28:13
  of
• 28:13
  our
• 28:13
  listeners
• 28:13
  are
• 28:14
  in
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  us,
• 28:15
  I
• 28:15
  have
• 28:16
  found
• 28:16
  that
• 28:16
  we
• 28:16
  are
• 28:17
  now
• 28:17
  listened
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  in
• 28:18
  28
• 28:18
  different
• 28:19
  countries.
• 28:20
  And
• 28:20
  I
• 28:21
  thought,
• 28:21
  whoa,
• 28:22
  that
• 28:23
  again,
• 28:24
  I
• 28:24
  just
• 28:24
  am
• 28:24
  always
• 28:25
  blown
• 28:25
  away.
• 28:25
  Like,
• 28:25
  I
• 28:26
  looked
• 28:26
  this
• 28:26
  morning
• 28:26
  and
• 28:26
  I
• 28:27
  noticed
• 28:27
  that
• 28:28
  we
• 28:28
  had
• 28:28
  listeners
• 28:29
  in
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  UK
• 28:30
  and
• 28:30
  we
• 28:30
  also
• 28:30
  had
• 28:31
  listeners
• 28:31
  in
• 28:31
  South
• 28:32
  Africa,
• 28:32
  which
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  thought,
• 28:34
  South
• 28:34
  Africa.
• 28:35
  You
• 28:35
  started
• 28:35
  looking
• 28:36
  at
• 28:36
  these
• 28:36
  things
• 28:36
  and
• 28:37
  thinking,
• 28:37
  you
• 28:37
  know
• 28:37
  what,
• 28:38
  thank
• 28:38
  God
• 28:38
  for
• 28:39
  Amazon
• 28:40
  having
• 28:40
  worldwide
• 28:41
  distribution.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:42
  it's
• 28:42
  another
• 28:42
  reason
• 28:43
  why
• 28:43
  you
• 28:43
  should.
• 28:44
  Because
• 28:45
  it
• 28:45
  doesn't
• 28:45
  cost
• 28:45
  you
• 28:46
  anything.
• 28:46
  Make
• 28:46
  sure
• 28:47
  that
• 28:47
  you're
• 28:47
  available
• 28:48
  worldwide.
• 28:49
  Because
• 28:50
  it's
• 28:50
  not
• 28:51
  just
• 28:51
  our
• 28:51
  podcast
• 28:52
  show
• 28:52
  that
• 28:53
  eventually
• 28:54
  children's
• 28:54
  book
• 28:54
  authors
• 28:55
  will
• 28:55
  go
• 28:55
  on
• 28:55
  other
• 28:56
  podcast
• 28:56
  shows
• 28:57
  or
• 28:57
  do
• 28:57
  other
• 28:57
  media,
• 28:59
  including
• 28:59
  your
• 29:00
  social
• 29:00
  media.
• 29:00
  It's
• 29:01
  worldwide.
• 29:02
  Absolutely.
• 29:03
  Yeah.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:03
  if
• 29:04
  it
• 29:04
  doesn't
• 29:04
  cost
• 29:04
  you
• 29:04
  anything,
• 29:05
  Caris,
• 29:06
  then
• 29:06
  why
• 29:07
  not?
• 29:08
  Yeah,
• 29:09
  we.
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  think
• 29:10
  my
• 29:10
  biggest
• 29:10
  sales
• 29:10
  have
• 29:11
  come
• 29:11
  from
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  uk,
• 29:11
  as
• 29:11
  I
• 29:12
  predicted,
• 29:12
  and
• 29:13
  then
• 29:13
  Canada
• 29:13
  is
• 29:13
  close
• 29:14
  behind.
• 29:15
  There
• 29:15
  have
• 29:15
  been
• 29:15
  sales
• 29:16
  in
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  US
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  then
• 29:17
  randomly,
• 29:18
  as
• 29:18
  you
• 29:18
  say,
• 29:19
  I
• 29:19
  had
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  look
• 29:19
  the
• 29:20
  other
• 29:20
  day,
• 29:20
  I've
• 29:20
  sold
• 29:20
  two
• 29:21
  copies
• 29:21
  in
• 29:21
  Spain
• 29:22
  and
• 29:23
  I.
• 29:23
  Had
• 29:23
  a
• 29:23
  guest
• 29:24
  on,
• 29:24
  oh,
• 29:24
  it's
• 29:25
  several
• 29:25
  months
• 29:25
  ago
• 29:26
  now,
• 29:26
  but
• 29:26
  she
• 29:27
  actually
• 29:27
  sold
• 29:28
  some
• 29:28
  books
• 29:29
  in
• 29:29
  India.
• 29:30
  I
• 29:30
  said,
• 29:30
  did
• 29:31
  you
• 29:31
  know
• 29:31
  anybody
• 29:31
  in
• 29:32
  India?
• 29:32
  She
• 29:32
  said,
• 29:33
  no,
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  don't
• 29:33
  know
• 29:34
  anybody
• 29:34
  in
• 29:35
  India.
• 29:36
  So
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  just
• 29:37
  never
• 29:37
  know.
• 29:38
  And
• 29:38
  that's
• 29:38
  what's
• 29:38
  amazing
• 29:39
  about
• 29:40
  the
• 29:40
  technology
• 29:41
  we
• 29:41
  have
• 29:41
  now.
• 29:42
  Yes.
• 29:42
  If
• 29:43
  I'd
• 29:43
  written
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  book
• 29:44
  10
• 29:44
  years
• 29:44
  ago,
• 29:46
  there's
• 29:46
  no
• 29:47
  way
• 29:47
  it
• 29:48
  would
• 29:48
  have
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  same
• 29:49
  reach.
• 29:50
  Absolutely.
• 29:51
  It's
• 29:51
  a
• 29:51
  completely
• 29:52
  different
• 29:52
  world.
• 29:52
  It
• 29:53
  is.
• 29:53
  It's
• 29:53
  totally.
• 29:54
  And
• 29:54
  it's
• 29:54
  so
• 29:55
  user
• 29:55
  friendly.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:57
  that's
• 29:57
  what
• 29:57
  I'm
• 29:57
  trying
• 29:57
  to
• 29:57
  encourage
• 29:58
  aspiring
• 29:59
  children's
• 29:59
  book
• 29:59
  authors
• 30:00
  to
• 30:01
  understand
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  it
• 30:02
  is
• 30:02
  relatively
• 30:03
  easy
• 30:04
  and
• 30:04
  you
• 30:05
  just
• 30:05
  have
• 30:05
  to
• 30:05
  get
• 30:05
  started.
• 30:06
  So
• 30:07
  I
• 30:07
  want
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  come
• 30:07
  back
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  your
• 30:08
  publishing
• 30:08
  journey
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  a
• 30:09
  second
• 30:09
  because
• 30:10
  that's
• 30:11
  where
• 30:11
  people
• 30:11
  try
• 30:12
  and
• 30:12
  figure
• 30:12
  out,
• 30:12
  do
• 30:12
  I
• 30:12
  go
• 30:13
  independently
• 30:13
  published,
• 30:14
  which
• 30:15
  means
• 30:15
  you're
• 30:15
  the
• 30:16
  publisher,
• 30:16
  or
• 30:17
  do
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  go
• 30:17
  hybrid
• 30:18
  or
• 30:18
  self
• 30:18
  published,
• 30:19
  which
• 30:19
  means
• 30:20
  you
• 30:20
  get
• 30:20
  a
• 30:20
  self
• 30:21
  publishing
• 30:21
  company
• 30:22
  that
• 30:22
  helps
• 30:23
  you
• 30:23
  through
• 30:23
  all
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  steps.
• 30:24
  You
• 30:24
  went
• 30:25
  independently
• 30:26
  published,
• 30:27
  and
• 30:27
  part
• 30:27
  of
• 30:27
  that
• 30:28
  was
• 30:28
  because
• 30:28
  your
• 30:29
  uncle
• 30:29
  was
• 30:30
  a
• 30:30
  published
• 30:30
  children's
• 30:31
  book
• 30:31
  author,
• 30:31
  is
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  correct?
• 30:33
  Yes.
• 30:33
  So
• 30:33
  he
• 30:34
  had
• 30:35
  so
• 30:35
  to
• 30:35
  give
• 30:35
  you
• 30:36
  a
• 30:36
  bit
• 30:36
  of
• 30:36
  background.
• 30:37
  So
• 30:37
  I
• 30:37
  had
• 30:37
  written
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  book
• 30:39
  in
• 30:40
  January
• 30:40
  24th
• 30:41
  okay.
• 30:42
  And
• 30:43
  I
• 30:43
  dabbled
• 30:44
  with
• 30:44
  it,
• 30:44
  kept
• 30:45
  playing
• 30:45
  around
• 30:45
  with
• 30:45
  it.
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  would
• 30:46
  send
• 30:46
  voice
• 30:46
  notes
• 30:46
  to
• 30:47
  my
• 30:47
  friends
• 30:47
  for
• 30:47
  them
• 30:47
  to
• 30:48
  play
• 30:48
  to
• 30:48
  their
• 30:48
  children
• 30:49
  to
• 30:49
  see
• 30:49
  what
• 30:49
  they
• 30:49
  think.
• 30:51
  And
• 30:51
  I
• 30:51
  was
• 30:51
  getting
• 30:52
  good
• 30:52
  feedback.
• 30:52
  So
• 30:53
  I
• 30:53
  thought,
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  know
• 30:54
  what?
• 30:54
  I'm
• 30:54
  gonna
• 30:54
  ask
• 30:55
  my
• 30:55
  uncle
• 30:55
  if
• 30:55
  he
• 30:55
  would
• 30:56
  like
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  illustrate.
• 30:56
  And
• 30:57
  he
• 30:57
  was
• 30:57
  really
• 30:57
  busy
• 30:58
  at
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  time.
• 30:58
  And
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  said,
• 30:59
  no
• 30:59
  worries,
• 30:59
  I'll
• 31:00
  see
• 31:00
  if
• 31:00
  I
• 31:00
  can
• 31:00
  do
• 31:01
  it
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  different
• 31:01
  way.
• 31:02
  So
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  looked
• 31:03
  into,
• 31:03
  do
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  get
• 31:04
  an
• 31:04
  illustrator?
• 31:04
  Where
• 31:05
  on
• 31:05
  earth
• 31:05
  do
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  start
• 31:05
  with
• 31:06
  that?
• 31:06
  And
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  thought,
• 31:07
  I'm
• 31:07
  not
• 31:07
  even
• 31:07
  going
• 31:08
  to
• 31:08
  entertain
• 31:08
  that.
• 31:09
  I'm
• 31:09
  already
• 31:09
  confused.
• 31:10
  I
• 31:10
  will
• 31:10
  go
• 31:11
  to
• 31:12
  publishers
• 31:13
  and
• 31:13
  they
• 31:13
  can
• 31:14
  do
• 31:14
  it
• 31:14
  all
• 31:14
  for
• 31:14
  me.
• 31:14
  And
• 31:15
  all
• 31:15
  right,
• 31:15
  it
• 31:16
  will
• 31:16
  cost
• 31:17
  more,
• 31:17
  whatever
• 31:18
  it
• 31:18
  works
• 31:18
  out
• 31:19
  being.
• 31:20
  But
• 31:20
  I'm
• 31:20
  all
• 31:21
  about
• 31:21
  convenience.
• 31:22
  I
• 31:22
  started
• 31:22
  looking
• 31:23
  into
• 31:23
  that.
• 31:24
  Then
• 31:24
  you
• 31:24
  find
• 31:24
  out
• 31:24
  you
• 31:24
  actually
• 31:25
  need
• 31:25
  to
• 31:25
  go
• 31:25
  to
• 31:25
  agencies
• 31:26
  who
• 31:26
  then
• 31:26
  talk
• 31:27
  to
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  publishers.
• 31:28
  So
• 31:28
  then
• 31:28
  you
• 31:28
  start
• 31:29
  looking
• 31:29
  up
• 31:29
  agencies.
• 31:30
  And
• 31:30
  then
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  emailed
• 31:31
  all
• 31:31
  these
• 31:31
  people
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  I
• 31:33
  did
• 31:33
  all
• 31:33
  my
• 31:33
  research,
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  some
• 31:34
  of
• 31:35
  them
• 31:35
  say,
• 31:35
  they'll
• 31:35
  get
• 31:36
  back
• 31:36
  to
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  in
• 31:36
  10
• 31:36
  weeks.
• 31:37
  Or
• 31:37
  if
• 31:38
  you
• 31:38
  don't
• 31:38
  hear
• 31:38
  it's
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  no
• 31:39
  anything.
• 31:40
  I'm
• 31:40
  in
• 31:40
  no
• 31:41
  rush.
• 31:41
  So
• 31:42
  I.
• 31:42
  Because
• 31:43
  I'm
• 31:43
  so
• 31:43
  optimistic,
• 31:44
  I
• 31:45
  thought,
• 31:45
  I'm
• 31:45
  not
• 31:45
  going
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  email
• 31:46
  five
• 31:46
  people
• 31:46
  in
• 31:47
  one
• 31:47
  go.
• 31:47
  What
• 31:47
  if
• 31:48
  the
• 31:48
  first
• 31:48
  one
• 31:48
  says
• 31:49
  yes?
• 31:50
  So.
• 31:51
  So
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  would
• 31:52
  take
• 31:52
  it
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  person
• 31:53
  at
• 31:54
  a
• 31:54
  time.
• 31:55
  Some
• 31:55
  would
• 31:55
  reply
• 31:55
  and
• 31:56
  say,
• 31:56
  thanks,
• 31:56
  but
• 31:56
  no
• 31:56
  thanks,
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  others
• 31:57
  you
• 31:58
  just
• 31:58
  wouldn't
• 31:58
  hear
• 31:58
  from.
• 31:58
  So
• 31:59
  then
• 31:59
  I'd
• 31:59
  reach
• 31:59
  out
• 31:59
  to
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  next
• 32:00
  person.
• 32:01
  So
• 32:01
  I
• 32:01
  did
• 32:01
  that
• 32:01
  all
• 32:01
  of
• 32:02
  last
• 32:02
  year.
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  actually
• 32:03
  went
• 32:04
  back
• 32:04
  from
• 32:04
  my
• 32:04
  brother's
• 32:05
  wedding,
• 32:05
  spoke
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  my
• 32:05
  uncle
• 32:06
  again,
• 32:06
  and
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  went,
• 32:07
  any
• 32:07
  chance
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  would
• 32:08
  like
• 32:08
  to
• 32:09
  illustrate
• 32:09
  my
• 32:10
  book?
• 32:11
  And
• 32:11
  he
• 32:11
  was
• 32:12
  actually
• 32:12
  freelancing
• 32:13
  at
• 32:13
  that
• 32:13
  point.
• 32:14
  So
• 32:14
  he
• 32:14
  said,
• 32:14
  I'll
• 32:15
  take
• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  look
• 32:15
  at
• 32:15
  your
• 32:15
  book.
• 32:16
  Thank
• 32:16
  you.
• 32:16
  I
• 32:17
  went,
• 32:17
  if
• 32:17
  you're
• 32:17
  not
• 32:17
  interested,
• 32:18
  I'm
• 32:18
  not
• 32:18
  offended.
• 32:19
  Bless
• 32:20
  his
• 32:20
  heart.
• 32:20
  He
• 32:20
  read
• 32:20
  my
• 32:21
  book
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  he
• 32:21
  said,
• 32:22
  I
• 32:22
  really
• 32:22
  like
• 32:23
  it.
• 32:23
  However,
• 32:24
  I
• 32:24
  have
• 32:24
  some
• 32:24
  suggestions.
• 32:25
  And
• 32:25
  he
• 32:26
  gave
• 32:26
  me
• 32:27
  the
• 32:27
  best
• 32:28
  constructive
• 32:29
  feedback
• 32:30
  I
• 32:31
  think
• 32:31
  I've
• 32:31
  ever
• 32:31
  had
• 32:32
  of
• 32:32
  how
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  could
• 32:34
  change
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  book
• 32:34
  based
• 32:35
  on
• 32:35
  his
• 32:36
  experience
• 32:37
  of
• 32:37
  writing
• 32:37
  children's
• 32:38
  books,
• 32:39
  of
• 32:39
  what
• 32:39
  would
• 32:39
  help
• 32:40
  it
• 32:40
  really
• 32:40
  come
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  life.
• 32:41
  Okay,
• 32:42
  so
• 32:43
  we
• 32:43
  went
• 32:43
  backwards
• 32:43
  and
• 32:43
  forwards.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:44
  what's
• 32:44
  amazing
• 32:45
  about
• 32:45
  this
• 32:45
  is
• 32:46
  that
• 32:46
  everything
• 32:46
  me
• 32:46
  and
• 32:47
  my
• 32:47
  uncle
• 32:47
  did
• 32:47
  was
• 32:47
  all
• 32:48
  via
• 32:48
  email.
• 32:49
  We
• 32:49
  never
• 32:49
  spoke
• 32:50
  on
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  phone.
• 32:51
  So
• 32:51
  all
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  his
• 32:52
  feedback,
• 32:52
  all
• 32:52
  of
• 32:52
  my
• 32:53
  changes,
• 32:53
  all
• 32:53
  of
• 32:53
  his,
• 32:54
  all
• 32:54
  backwards
• 32:55
  and
• 32:55
  forwards
• 32:55
  on
• 32:55
  email
• 32:56
  across
• 32:56
  the
• 32:57
  time
• 32:57
  zones.
• 32:59
  And
• 32:59
  he
• 32:59
  got
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  point
• 33:00
  where
• 33:00
  we
• 33:00
  were
• 33:00
  both
• 33:00
  really
• 33:01
  happy.
• 33:01
  He
• 33:01
  started
• 33:02
  illustrating
• 33:02
  it.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:03
  so
• 33:04
  he
• 33:04
  said,
• 33:05
  from
• 33:05
  his
• 33:05
  experience
• 33:08
  at
• 33:08
  this
• 33:08
  point,
• 33:09
  just
• 33:09
  publish
• 33:10
  it
• 33:10
  yourself.
• 33:11
  Get
• 33:11
  it
• 33:11
  onto
• 33:12
  Amazon.
• 33:12
  It's
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  free
• 33:13
  way
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  doing
• 33:13
  it.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:15
  when
• 33:15
  you
• 33:15
  start
• 33:15
  to
• 33:16
  look
• 33:16
  at
• 33:16
  forums,
• 33:17
  people
• 33:18
  who
• 33:18
  have
• 33:18
  published
• 33:19
  either
• 33:20
  through
• 33:20
  with
• 33:21
  support.
• 33:21
  Sorry,
• 33:21
  I
• 33:22
  just
• 33:22
  want
• 33:22
  to.
• 33:22
  And
• 33:22
  that
• 33:22
  was
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  Galloping
• 33:23
  Frog,
• 33:24
  correct?
• 33:24
  Yes,
• 33:25
  order
• 33:25
  the
• 33:25
  Galloping
• 33:25
  Frogs.
• 33:26
  What
• 33:26
  I
• 33:26
  had
• 33:26
  found
• 33:27
  is
• 33:27
  that
• 33:27
  a
• 33:27
  lot
• 33:27
  of
• 33:27
  people
• 33:27
  who
• 33:28
  have
• 33:28
  gone
• 33:28
  down
• 33:28
  the
• 33:29
  formal
• 33:29
  publishing
• 33:29
  route
• 33:30
  have
• 33:30
  then
• 33:31
  said,
• 33:31
  do
• 33:31
  you
• 33:31
  know
• 33:31
  what,
• 33:31
  if
• 33:32
  I
• 33:32
  was
• 33:32
  to
• 33:32
  do
• 33:32
  it
• 33:32
  again,
• 33:32
  I'd
• 33:33
  just
• 33:33
  do
• 33:33
  it
• 33:33
  myself,
• 33:34
  unless
• 33:35
  they've
• 33:35
  been
• 33:36
  incredibly
• 33:37
  successful.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:38
  so
• 33:38
  I
• 33:38
  thought,
• 33:39
  why
• 33:39
  not?
• 33:39
  I'm.
• 33:40
  And
• 33:40
  that's
• 33:40
  when
• 33:40
  I
• 33:41
  started
• 33:41
  looking
• 33:41
  into
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  Amazon
• 33:42
  versus
• 33:42
  income
• 33:43
  spark
• 33:43
  and,
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  all
• 33:44
  that.
• 33:45
  So
• 33:45
  that's
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  journey
• 33:46
  I
• 33:47
  took.
• 33:48
  The
• 33:48
  only
• 33:49
  thing
• 33:49
  I
• 33:49
  would
• 33:49
  say
• 33:49
  is
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  was
• 33:50
  extremely
• 33:51
  fortunate
• 33:52
  to
• 33:52
  have
• 33:52
  an
• 33:52
  uncle
• 33:52
  who's
• 33:53
  a
• 33:53
  graphic
• 33:53
  designer
• 33:55
  who
• 33:55
  had
• 33:55
  already
• 33:56
  published
• 33:56
  his
• 33:56
  own
• 33:56
  books,
• 33:57
  who
• 33:57
  knew
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  system,
• 33:58
  who
• 33:59
  knew
• 33:59
  the
• 33:59
  process.
• 34:00
  If
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  didn't
• 34:01
  have
• 34:01
  that,
• 34:03
  I
• 34:03
  don't
• 34:04
  know
• 34:04
  what
• 34:04
  I
• 34:05
  would
• 34:05
  be
• 34:05
  doing
• 34:06
  now
• 34:06
  with
• 34:06
  my
• 34:07
  journey
• 34:07
  because
• 34:08
  I
• 34:09
  needed
• 34:09
  an
• 34:09
  illustrator.
• 34:11
  So
• 34:11
  that's
• 34:12
  when
• 34:12
  I
• 34:12
  would
• 34:12
  have
• 34:13
  got
• 34:13
  a
• 34:13
  little
• 34:13
  bit
• 34:13
  more
• 34:14
  stuck.
• 34:15
  But
• 34:15
  if
• 34:15
  you
• 34:16
  do
• 34:16
  know
• 34:16
  someone,
• 34:17
  then
• 34:17
  it
• 34:18
  certainly
• 34:18
  does
• 34:19
  help.
• 34:20
  Absolutely.
• 34:20
  And
• 34:21
  it's
• 34:21
  interesting
• 34:21
  because
• 34:21
  our
• 34:22
  journey
• 34:22
  was
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  little
• 34:23
  bit
• 34:23
  different.
• 34:23
  Of
• 34:24
  course,
• 34:24
  during
• 34:24
  COVID
• 34:25
  I
• 34:26
  ended
• 34:26
  up
• 34:26
  writing
• 34:27
  two
• 34:28
  business
• 34:28
  books
• 34:30
  and
• 34:31
  from
• 34:31
  that
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  had
• 34:32
  submitted
• 34:33
  them
• 34:33
  just
• 34:33
  like
• 34:33
  you
• 34:33
  did
• 34:34
  through,
• 34:34
  through
• 34:35
  an
• 34:35
  agent,
• 34:36
  through
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  traditional
• 34:37
  publisher
• 34:38
  came
• 34:38
  up
• 34:39
  crickets
• 34:39
  or
• 34:40
  thank
• 34:40
  you
• 34:40
  but
• 34:41
  no
• 34:41
  thank
• 34:41
  you.
• 34:42
  So
• 34:42
  I
• 34:42
  ended
• 34:43
  up
• 34:43
  indie
• 34:43
  publishing
• 34:44
  two
• 34:44
  business
• 34:45
  books,
• 34:46
  which
• 34:46
  then
• 34:47
  I
• 34:48
  developed
• 34:48
  this
• 34:48
  skill.
• 34:49
  And
• 34:50
  so
• 34:50
  then
• 34:50
  when
• 34:50
  my
• 34:51
  oldest
• 34:52
  granddaughter
• 34:53
  wanted
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  do
• 34:53
  a
• 34:54
  children's
• 34:54
  book,
• 34:54
  she
• 34:55
  co
• 34:55
  authored
• 34:56
  our
• 34:56
  first
• 34:56
  book
• 34:57
  with
• 34:57
  me.
• 34:58
  I
• 34:58
  had
• 34:58
  the
• 34:59
  skillset
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  do
• 35:00
  that.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:01
  so
• 35:01
  what
• 35:01
  I've
• 35:02
  been
• 35:02
  trying
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  do
• 35:02
  with
• 35:02
  our
• 35:03
  podcast
• 35:03
  show
• 35:04
  too
• 35:04
  is
• 35:05
  bring
• 35:05
  on
• 35:06
  guests
• 35:07
  who
• 35:07
  can
• 35:07
  help
• 35:08
  you
• 35:08
  become
• 35:09
  an
• 35:09
  independent
• 35:10
  publisher
• 35:10
  versus
• 35:11
  a
• 35:12
  self
• 35:12
  publisher
• 35:13
  or
• 35:13
  a
• 35:13
  hybrid
• 35:14
  self
• 35:14
  published
• 35:15
  author,
• 35:15
  which
• 35:16
  there's
• 35:16
  nothing
• 35:16
  wrong
• 35:17
  with
• 35:17
  that.
• 35:17
  Like
• 35:18
  you
• 35:18
  said,
• 35:18
  you
• 35:19
  have
• 35:19
  to
• 35:19
  pay
• 35:19
  for
• 35:19
  that
• 35:20
  service
• 35:21
  or
• 35:21
  you
• 35:21
  can
• 35:22
  become
• 35:22
  an
• 35:22
  independent
• 35:23
  children's
• 35:24
  book
• 35:24
  publisher.
• 35:25
  But
• 35:25
  how
• 35:25
  do
• 35:25
  you
• 35:25
  do
• 35:26
  that?
• 35:26
  And
• 35:26
  so
• 35:27
  that's
• 35:27
  what
• 35:27
  I'm
• 35:27
  hoping
• 35:27
  to
• 35:28
  show
• 35:28
  people
• 35:28
  is
• 35:29
  given
• 35:29
  behind
• 35:29
  the
• 35:30
  curtains,
• 35:30
  because
• 35:31
  at
• 35:31
  the
• 35:31
  end
• 35:31
  of
• 35:31
  the
• 35:31
  day,
• 35:32
  you're
• 35:32
  looking
• 35:32
  at
• 35:33
  having
• 35:33
  an
• 35:34
  editor.
• 35:35
  You
• 35:35
  have
• 35:35
  to
• 35:36
  find
• 35:36
  an
• 35:36
  illustrator.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:37
  now
• 35:37
  there's
• 35:37
  a
• 35:37
  lot
• 35:38
  of
• 35:38
  companies
• 35:38
  that
• 35:38
  actually
• 35:39
  act
• 35:40
  as
• 35:40
  agents
• 35:40
  for
• 35:40
  an
• 35:41
  illustrator.
• 35:42
  But
• 35:42
  you
• 35:43
  know
• 35:43
  what,
• 35:43
  we
• 35:44
  found
• 35:44
  our
• 35:44
  illustrator
• 35:45
  online
• 35:46
  and
• 35:47
  I
• 35:47
  tried
• 35:47
  to
• 35:48
  find
• 35:48
  a
• 35:48
  Canadian,
• 35:48
  but
• 35:49
  I
• 35:49
  couldn't.
• 35:49
  Our
• 35:50
  illustrator
• 35:51
  is
• 35:51
  in
• 35:51
  the
• 35:51
  uk,
• 35:53
  but
• 35:53
  I've
• 35:53
  talked
• 35:53
  to
• 35:54
  so
• 35:54
  many
• 35:54
  children's
• 35:54
  book
• 35:55
  authors
• 35:55
  now,
• 35:56
  a
• 35:56
  lot
• 35:56
  of
• 35:57
  Americans
• 35:57
  who
• 35:57
  are
• 35:58
  using
• 35:58
  Canadian
• 35:59
  children's
• 36:00
  book
• 36:00
  author
• 36:00
  illustrators.
• 36:01
  So
• 36:02
  they're
• 36:02
  finding
• 36:03
  these
• 36:03
  people.
• 36:03
  You
• 36:04
  can
• 36:04
  find
• 36:04
  them,
• 36:04
  especially
• 36:05
  through
• 36:05
  social
• 36:05
  media.
• 36:06
  Now,
• 36:07
  sometimes
• 36:07
  you
• 36:07
  have
• 36:07
  to
• 36:08
  go
• 36:08
  through
• 36:08
  an
• 36:09
  agency
• 36:09
  to
• 36:09
  find
• 36:10
  the
• 36:10
  illustrator,
• 36:10
  but
• 36:10
  a
• 36:11
  lot
• 36:11
  of
• 36:11
  times,
• 36:12
  if
• 36:12
  you
• 36:12
  just
• 36:13
  look
• 36:13
  at
• 36:14
  going
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  a
• 36:14
  bookstore
• 36:16
  and
• 36:16
  look
• 36:17
  around
• 36:17
  and
• 36:17
  write
• 36:18
  down
• 36:18
  your
• 36:19
  favorite
• 36:19
  illustrator
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  children's
• 36:20
  books
• 36:21
  and
• 36:21
  then
• 36:21
  reach
• 36:21
  out
• 36:22
  to
• 36:22
  them,
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  might
• 36:22
  be
• 36:23
  pleasantly
• 36:24
  surprised
• 36:24
  that
• 36:24
  you
• 36:25
  can
• 36:26
  do
• 36:26
  it
• 36:26
  on
• 36:26
  your
• 36:26
  own.
• 36:27
  Yeah,
• 36:28
  that's
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  really
• 36:28
  good
• 36:29
  tip
• 36:29
  because
• 36:29
  I
• 36:30
  think
• 36:30
  it's.
• 36:31
  They're
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  stumbling
• 36:32
  blocks.
• 36:33
  It's
• 36:33
  the.
• 36:33
  You've
• 36:34
  come
• 36:34
  up
• 36:34
  with
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  idea,
• 36:35
  you've
• 36:35
  written
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  book,
• 36:36
  but
• 36:36
  then
• 36:36
  it's
• 36:36
  how
• 36:37
  do
• 36:37
  I
• 36:37
  do
• 36:37
  this
• 36:37
  bit?
• 36:37
  And
• 36:38
  how
• 36:38
  do
• 36:38
  I.
• 36:38
  And
• 36:38
  then.
• 36:38
  And
• 36:38
  that's
• 36:39
  when
• 36:39
  it
• 36:39
  can
• 36:39
  feel
• 36:39
  really
• 36:39
  daunting.
• 36:40
  Yes.
• 36:41
  So
• 36:41
  I
• 36:42
  think.
• 36:42
  And
• 36:43
  again,
• 36:43
  it's
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  technology
• 36:44
  we
• 36:44
  have
• 36:44
  access
• 36:45
  to
• 36:45
  now.
• 36:45
  There
• 36:46
  are
• 36:46
  so
• 36:46
  many
• 36:46
  ways
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  reach
• 36:47
  out.
• 36:47
  And
• 36:48
  I
• 36:48
  would
• 36:48
  have
• 36:48
  worked
• 36:48
  it
• 36:49
  out
• 36:49
  eventually.
• 36:50
  Yes.
• 36:50
  But
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  might
• 36:52
  still
• 36:52
  be
• 36:52
  in
• 36:53
  that
• 36:53
  process
• 36:53
  now.
• 36:55
  So
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  am
• 36:56
  extremely
• 36:57
  grateful
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  my
• 36:58
  uncle.
• 36:58
  Really
• 36:59
  curious,
• 36:59
  because
• 37:00
  you
• 37:00
  told
• 37:00
  your.
• 37:01
  The
• 37:01
  story
• 37:01
  of
• 37:02
  you
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  your
• 37:02
  brother
• 37:03
  and
• 37:03
  your
• 37:03
  childhood
• 37:04
  and
• 37:04
  the
• 37:04
  creek
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  stepping
• 37:06
  stones
• 37:06
  through
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  creek
• 37:07
  and
• 37:08
  your
• 37:08
  grandfather
• 37:09
  talking
• 37:09
  about
• 37:10
  the
• 37:10
  galloping
• 37:10
  frog.
• 37:11
  What's
• 37:12
  interesting
• 37:12
  to
• 37:12
  me
• 37:13
  is
• 37:14
  the
• 37:15
  one
• 37:15
  thing
• 37:15
  I
• 37:15
  really
• 37:16
  found
• 37:17
  very
• 37:17
  unique
• 37:17
  in
• 37:18
  your
• 37:18
  book
• 37:18
  was
• 37:18
  the
• 37:19
  one
• 37:19
  feature
• 37:19
  of
• 37:20
  the
• 37:21
  one
• 37:22
  band
• 37:23
  frog.
• 37:24
  Yes,
• 37:24
  I
• 37:25
  love
• 37:25
  that.
• 37:25
  And
• 37:26
  so
• 37:27
  you
• 37:27
  haven't
• 37:27
  mentioned
• 37:28
  it
• 37:28
  yet.
• 37:28
  So
• 37:29
  how
• 37:29
  did
• 37:29
  you
• 37:29
  go
• 37:30
  from
• 37:30
  the
• 37:30
  galloping
• 37:31
  frog
• 37:32
  to
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  one
• 37:32
  frog
• 37:33
  band?
• 37:34
  The
• 37:34
  one
• 37:34
  frog
• 37:34
  band.
• 37:35
  Yeah.
• 37:35
  Tell
• 37:36
  us
• 37:36
  about
• 37:36
  that.
• 37:37
  So
• 37:37
  this
• 37:37
  is
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  big
• 37:39
  thank
• 37:39
  you
• 37:39
  to
• 37:40
  my
• 37:40
  uncle.
• 37:40
  So
• 37:41
  my
• 37:42
  first
• 37:42
  draft
• 37:43
  of
• 37:43
  my
• 37:43
  book,
• 37:44
  I
• 37:45
  always
• 37:45
  wanted
• 37:45
  it
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  be
• 37:46
  about
• 37:47
  how
• 37:47
  you
• 37:48
  shouldn't
• 37:50
  base
• 37:50
  your
• 37:51
  thoughts
• 37:52
  on
• 37:52
  assumptions.
• 37:53
  So
• 37:54
  the
• 37:54
  whole
• 37:54
  point
• 37:54
  of
• 37:54
  the
• 37:54
  book
• 37:55
  is
• 37:55
  that
• 37:55
  they
• 37:55
  hear
• 37:55
  this
• 37:56
  rumor
• 37:57
  about
• 37:57
  this
• 37:57
  frog
• 37:58
  and
• 37:59
  everyone
• 38:00
  adds
• 38:00
  to
• 38:00
  it
• 38:01
  and
• 38:01
  that
• 38:01
  actually
• 38:02
  those
• 38:02
  rumors
• 38:03
  aren't
• 38:03
  true
• 38:05
  and
• 38:05
  that
• 38:05
  you
• 38:05
  shouldn't
• 38:06
  jump
• 38:07
  on
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  bandwagon.
• 38:08
  You
• 38:08
  should
• 38:08
  find
• 38:08
  out
• 38:09
  for
• 38:09
  yourself.
• 38:10
  It
• 38:11
  was
• 38:11
  always
• 38:11
  meant
• 38:11
  to
• 38:11
  be
• 38:11
  that
• 38:12
  big
• 38:12
  moral
• 38:13
  of
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  story.
• 38:14
  So
• 38:14
  my
• 38:14
  first.
• 38:14
  I
• 38:15
  can't
• 38:15
  even
• 38:15
  remember
• 38:17
  what
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  first
• 38:17
  version
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  book
• 38:18
  was
• 38:19
  like
• 38:19
  because
• 38:19
  a
• 38:20
  lot
• 38:20
  of
• 38:20
  it's
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  same.
• 38:21
  It
• 38:21
  has
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  rhyming,
• 38:22
  it
• 38:22
  has
• 38:22
  the
• 38:22
  dumb
• 38:23
  throughout,
• 38:24
  it
• 38:25
  has
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  different
• 38:27
  descriptions
• 38:27
  of
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  frog.
• 38:29
  But
• 38:30
  I
• 38:30
  think
• 38:31
  what
• 38:32
  really
• 38:32
  helped
• 38:32
  me
• 38:33
  was
• 38:33
  my
• 38:33
  uncle
• 38:33
  pushing
• 38:34
  me
• 38:34
  to
• 38:34
  say,
• 38:35
  it's
• 38:35
  the
• 38:36
  story's
• 38:36
  there.
• 38:36
  The
• 38:37
  moral
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  story
• 38:37
  is
• 38:38
  there,
• 38:39
  but
• 38:39
  it's
• 38:39
  a
• 38:39
  bit
• 38:40
  meh.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:42
  we
• 38:42
  tried
• 38:42
  to
• 38:42
  put
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  fangs
• 38:43
  into
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  story
• 38:44
  and
• 38:44
  it
• 38:44
  just
• 38:45
  wasn't
• 38:45
  working.
• 38:45
  They
• 38:45
  were
• 38:45
  just
• 38:46
  scary.
• 38:46
  And
• 38:47
  my
• 38:47
  granddad
• 38:47
  obviously
• 38:48
  thought
• 38:48
  it
• 38:48
  was
• 38:48
  funny,
• 38:49
  but
• 38:49
  we
• 38:49
  thought
• 38:49
  maybe
• 38:49
  other
• 38:50
  children
• 38:50
  wouldn't.
• 38:51
  And
• 38:51
  so
• 38:51
  we
• 38:51
  were
• 38:52
  trying
• 38:52
  to
• 38:52
  come
• 38:52
  up
• 38:52
  with
• 38:53
  ways
• 38:53
  of
• 38:54
  how
• 38:55
  could
• 38:55
  a
• 38:56
  someone
• 38:57
  mistake
• 38:57
  a
• 38:58
  feature
• 38:58
  of
• 38:58
  the
• 38:58
  frog?
• 38:59
  But
• 38:59
  actually
• 39:00
  there'd
• 39:00
  be
• 39:00
  a
• 39:00
  really
• 39:00
  fun
• 39:01
  side
• 39:01
  of
• 39:02
  a
• 39:02
  fun
• 39:02
  explanation.
• 39:04
  And
• 39:05
  it
• 39:05
  would
• 39:05
  have
• 39:05
  been
• 39:06
  something
• 39:06
  my
• 39:06
  uncle
• 39:07
  said
• 39:07
  about
• 39:09
  an
• 39:09
  instrument.
• 39:10
  There
• 39:10
  was
• 39:11
  definitely
• 39:11
  something
• 39:11
  he
• 39:12
  said,
• 39:12
  or
• 39:12
  maybe
• 39:13
  he's
• 39:13
  playing
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  accordion
• 39:15
  or
• 39:15
  I
• 39:15
  can't
• 39:16
  even
• 39:16
  remember
• 39:16
  what
• 39:17
  instrument
• 39:18
  he
• 39:18
  said.
• 39:19
  And
• 39:19
  in
• 39:19
  that
• 39:20
  moment,
• 39:20
  my
• 39:20
  brain
• 39:21
  went
• 39:21
  immediately
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  the
• 39:23
  Mary
• 39:23
  Poppins
• 39:24
  film.
• 39:25
  The
• 39:25
  original.
• 39:26
  Yes.
• 39:26
  Where
• 39:27
  you
• 39:27
  have
• 39:27
  Bert
• 39:28
  walking
• 39:28
  down
• 39:28
  the
• 39:28
  street
• 39:29
  playing.
• 39:30
  He's
• 39:30
  a
• 39:30
  one
• 39:30
  man
• 39:30
  band
• 39:31
  and
• 39:31
  he's
• 39:31
  got.
• 39:31
  He's
• 39:31
  playing
• 39:32
  every
• 39:32
  instrument
• 39:32
  in
• 39:33
  the.
• 39:33
  Every
• 39:33
  instrument.
• 39:34
  And
• 39:34
  he's
• 39:34
  got
• 39:34
  the
• 39:34
  drum
• 39:35
  on
• 39:35
  his
• 39:35
  back
• 39:35
  and
• 39:36
  my.
• 39:36
  I
• 39:36
  don't
• 39:36
  know
• 39:36
  why
• 39:37
  it
• 39:37
  happened,
• 39:37
  but
• 39:38
  my
• 39:38
  brain
• 39:38
  went
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  da
• 39:39
  dum
• 39:40
  that
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  children
• 39:40
  hear.
• 39:42
  That
• 39:42
  could
• 39:42
  be
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  frog
• 39:43
  hopping.
• 39:43
  And
• 39:44
  as
• 39:44
  he
• 39:44
  hops,
• 39:45
  it
• 39:45
  hits
• 39:45
  the
• 39:45
  bass
• 39:46
  drum.
• 39:46
  The
• 39:47
  dumb.
• 39:48
  So
• 39:48
  when.
• 39:49
  As
• 39:49
  soon.
• 39:49
  And
• 39:49
  so
• 39:49
  I'm
• 39:50
  really
• 39:50
  funny.
• 39:50
  When
• 39:50
  I
• 39:51
  start
• 39:51
  to
• 39:51
  think
• 39:52
  things
• 39:52
  through.
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  can't
• 39:53
  sleep
• 39:53
  properly
• 39:54
  because
• 39:54
  my
• 39:55
  brain
• 39:55
  is
• 39:56
  on
• 39:56
  overdrive.
• 39:57
  So
• 39:57
  I'm
• 39:57
  trying
• 39:57
  to
• 39:58
  sleep
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  then
• 39:58
  my
• 39:58
  brain
• 39:59
  will
• 39:59
  go,
• 39:59
  cymbals,
• 40:00
  he's
• 40:00
  playing
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  cymbals.
• 40:01
  So
• 40:01
  I
• 40:01
  write
• 40:01
  it
• 40:02
  down
• 40:02
  and
• 40:02
  then
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  try
• 40:03
  and
• 40:03
  sleep
• 40:03
  again.
• 40:04
  So
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  would.
• 40:05
  Then
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  went
• 40:05
  back
• 40:06
  through
• 40:06
  the
• 40:06
  story
• 40:07
  and
• 40:07
  every
• 40:08
  bit
• 40:09
  of
• 40:09
  the
• 40:09
  frogs
• 40:10
  that
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  animals
• 40:11
  had
• 40:11
  confused.
• 40:13
  We
• 40:13
  had
• 40:14
  large
• 40:14
  hands,
• 40:15
  whatever
• 40:15
  it
• 40:15
  was.
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  would
• 40:16
  then
• 40:17
  go,
• 40:17
  what
• 40:17
  could
• 40:17
  that
• 40:17
  be?
• 40:18
  What
• 40:18
  musical
• 40:19
  instrument
• 40:19
  could
• 40:19
  that
• 40:20
  be?
• 40:20
  How
• 40:20
  could
• 40:21
  that
• 40:22
  equate?
• 40:23
  And
• 40:23
  so
• 40:23
  that's
• 40:24
  how
• 40:24
  he
• 40:24
  ended
• 40:24
  up
• 40:24
  becoming
• 40:25
  the
• 40:25
  one
• 40:25
  Frog
• 40:26
  band.
• 40:26
  And
• 40:26
  we
• 40:26
  wanted
• 40:27
  it
• 40:27
  to
• 40:27
  be
• 40:27
  this
• 40:27
  big
• 40:27
  reveal.
• 40:29
  It
• 40:29
  really
• 40:29
  makes
• 40:30
  me
• 40:30
  smile
• 40:30
  because
• 40:30
  that's
• 40:31
  not
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  idea
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  had
• 40:32
  when
• 40:32
  I
• 40:32
  first
• 40:33
  started
• 40:33
  writing
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  book
• 40:34
  and
• 40:34
  I'm.
• 40:34
  Sure
• 40:35
  made
• 40:35
  me
• 40:35
  smile
• 40:36
  big
• 40:36
  time.
• 40:37
  That's
• 40:37
  it.
• 40:37
  And
• 40:38
  I'm
• 40:38
  sure
• 40:38
  many
• 40:38
  authors
• 40:39
  I've
• 40:39
  read
• 40:40
  books
• 40:40
  before
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  gone,
• 40:41
  oh,
• 40:41
  that
• 40:41
  was
• 40:41
  pretty
• 40:41
  neat,
• 40:42
  that
• 40:42
  thing.
• 40:43
  I
• 40:43
  wonder
• 40:44
  if
• 40:44
  they
• 40:44
  planned
• 40:44
  that.
• 40:45
  I
• 40:45
  hadn't
• 40:46
  planned
• 40:46
  this
• 40:46
  initially,
• 40:48
  but
• 40:48
  it
• 40:48
  makes
• 40:49
  me
• 40:49
  smile
• 40:49
  because
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  think
• 40:50
  my
• 40:50
  granddad
• 40:50
  would
• 40:51
  love
• 40:51
  it.
• 40:51
  It
• 40:52
  is
• 40:52
  so
• 40:52
  up
• 40:53
  his
• 40:53
  street.
• 40:54
  It's
• 40:54
  his
• 40:55
  humor,
• 40:56
  it's
• 40:56
  his.
• 40:57
  The
• 40:57
  whole
• 40:57
  making
• 40:58
  nonsense.
• 40:59
  Magical.
• 41:00
  It's
• 41:00
  so
• 41:01
  him.
• 41:01
  So
• 41:02
  it
• 41:02
  really
• 41:02
  does
• 41:02
  make
• 41:03
  me
• 41:03
  smile.
• 41:03
  It's
• 41:04
  the
• 41:04
  nice
• 41:04
  reveal
• 41:04
  of
• 41:05
  the
• 41:05
  book
• 41:05
  and
• 41:05
  then
• 41:06
  everyone
• 41:06
  comes
• 41:07
  together
• 41:07
  at
• 41:07
  the
• 41:07
  end
• 41:08
  and
• 41:09
  it
• 41:09
  just.
• 41:09
  Yeah.
• 41:10
  Again,
• 41:10
  it
• 41:10
  makes
• 41:10
  me
• 41:11
  think
• 41:11
  of
• 41:11
  Bert
• 41:11
  from
• 41:11
  Mary
• 41:12
  Poppins.
• 41:12
  Yeah,
• 41:13
  it's
• 41:13
  terrific.
• 41:13
  I
• 41:14
  really
• 41:14
  like
• 41:14
  how
• 41:14
  you
• 41:15
  did
• 41:15
  that.
• 41:16
  Thank
• 41:16
  you
• 41:16
  very
• 41:17
  much.
• 41:17
  So,
• 41:17
  yes,
• 41:18
  that
• 41:18
  definitely.
• 41:19
  As
• 41:20
  I
• 41:20
  say,
• 41:20
  it
• 41:20
  was
• 41:21
  nice
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  have
• 41:22
  someone
• 41:23
  in
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  family
• 41:23
  who
• 41:24
  wasn't
• 41:24
  just
• 41:25
  talented
• 41:25
  with
• 41:26
  his
• 41:26
  drawing.
• 41:26
  But
• 41:27
  also
• 41:27
  he
• 41:27
  really
• 41:27
  did
• 41:28
  challenge
• 41:28
  me
• 41:28
  with.
• 41:29
  Your
• 41:29
  book's
• 41:29
  great,
• 41:29
  but
• 41:30
  have
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  considered
• 41:31
  pushing
• 41:31
  yourself
• 41:32
  a
• 41:32
  little
• 41:32
  bit
• 41:32
  further?
• 41:33
  If
• 41:33
  Any
• 41:33
  of
• 41:34
  those
• 41:34
  publishers
• 41:34
  had
• 41:35
  come
• 41:35
  back
• 41:35
  to
• 41:35
  me
• 41:35
  or
• 41:35
  agencies
• 41:36
  had
• 41:36
  come
• 41:36
  back
• 41:37
  to
• 41:37
  me
• 41:38
  originally
• 41:38
  and
• 41:38
  said,
• 41:39
  oh,
• 41:39
  we
• 41:39
  love
• 41:39
  the
• 41:39
  Galloping
• 41:40
  Frog.
• 41:40
  It
• 41:40
  wouldn't
• 41:40
  be
• 41:41
  the
• 41:41
  story
• 41:41
  it
• 41:41
  is
• 41:41
  now.
• 41:42
  So
• 41:42
  I'm
• 41:42
  actually
• 41:42
  very
• 41:42
  grateful
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  they
• 41:43
  all
• 41:43
  declined.
• 41:45
  We
• 41:45
  got
• 41:45
  to
• 41:45
  turn
• 41:46
  it
• 41:46
  into
• 41:46
  what
• 41:46
  it
• 41:47
  is
• 41:47
  now.
• 41:48
  I
• 41:48
  would
• 41:48
  be
• 41:48
  fascinated
• 41:49
  if
• 41:49
  I
• 41:49
  was
• 41:49
  to
• 41:49
  send
• 41:50
  it
• 41:50
  now,
• 41:50
  if
• 41:50
  they
• 41:50
  would
• 41:51
  have
• 41:51
  a
• 41:51
  difference
• 41:52
  of
• 41:52
  opinion.
• 41:53
  But
• 41:53
  yeah,
• 41:53
  I'm
• 41:54
  really
• 41:54
  proud
• 41:54
  with
• 41:55
  how
• 41:55
  it's
• 41:55
  come
• 41:56
  out
• 41:56
  and
• 41:56
  hearing
• 41:56
  the
• 41:57
  children
• 41:57
  say
• 41:57
  it
• 41:57
  as
• 41:58
  well
• 41:58
  is
• 41:58
  really
• 41:58
  nice.
• 41:58
  And
• 41:59
  you
• 41:59
  should
• 41:59
  be.
• 41:59
  That's
• 41:59
  fantastic.
• 42:01
  I
• 42:01
  notice
• 42:01
  you
• 42:02
  don't
• 42:02
  have
• 42:02
  an
• 42:02
  author's
• 42:03
  website.
• 42:04
  Do
• 42:04
  you
• 42:04
  have
• 42:05
  plans
• 42:05
  to
• 42:05
  have
• 42:05
  a
• 42:06
  website?
• 42:07
  Oh,
• 42:07
  it's
• 42:08
  so
• 42:08
  funny.
• 42:08
  I
• 42:08
  looked
• 42:08
  at
• 42:09
  this
• 42:09
  literally
• 42:09
  this
• 42:10
  week.
• 42:11
  So
• 42:12
  my
• 42:12
  brother
• 42:12
  said,
• 42:13
  you
• 42:13
  really
• 42:13
  need
• 42:13
  to
• 42:13
  grab
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  domain
• 42:14
  of
• 42:15
  your
• 42:15
  book.
• 42:16
  So
• 42:16
  you
• 42:16
  start
• 42:16
  looking
• 42:16
  into
• 42:17
  it.
• 42:17
  And
• 42:18
  as
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  say,
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  work
• 42:19
  in
• 42:20
  marketing
• 42:20
  and
• 42:20
  communication,
• 42:21
  so
• 42:21
  I
• 42:21
  have
• 42:21
  my
• 42:21
  own
• 42:22
  website
• 42:22
  that
• 42:22
  I
• 42:22
  manage.
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  have
• 42:23
  my
• 42:23
  own
• 42:23
  domain,
• 42:24
  I
• 42:24
  know
• 42:24
  all
• 42:24
  of
• 42:25
  this
• 42:25
  stuff.
• 42:26
  But
• 42:26
  I
• 42:26
  looked
• 42:27
  into
• 42:28
  the
• 42:28
  website
• 42:28
  for
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  Galloping
• 42:29
  Frog
• 42:30
  and
• 42:30
  I
• 42:30
  thought
• 42:31
  I
• 42:31
  could
• 42:31
  easily
• 42:31
  do
• 42:32
  this.
• 42:32
  It
• 42:32
  would
• 42:32
  take
• 42:33
  me
• 42:33
  less
• 42:34
  than
• 42:34
  half
• 42:34
  a
• 42:34
  day.
• 42:34
  It
• 42:35
  would
• 42:35
  be
• 42:35
  easy
• 42:36
  to
• 42:36
  do,
• 42:37
  but
• 42:37
  do
• 42:37
  I
• 42:37
  want
• 42:38
  to
• 42:38
  pay
• 42:38
  that
• 42:38
  additional
• 42:39
  cost
• 42:39
  right
• 42:40
  now?
• 42:41
  So
• 42:41
  the
• 42:41
  cost
• 42:41
  of
• 42:42
  the
• 42:42
  website,
• 42:42
  the
• 42:43
  cost
• 42:43
  of
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  domain.
• 42:45
  And
• 42:46
  in
• 42:46
  that
• 42:46
  moment
• 42:47
  I
• 42:47
  decided
• 42:48
  I
• 42:49
  don't
• 42:49
  have
• 42:49
  the
• 42:49
  brain
• 42:50
  space
• 42:50
  for
• 42:50
  this
• 42:50
  right
• 42:51
  this
• 42:51
  second.
• 42:52
  I
• 42:52
  do
• 42:52
  think
• 42:52
  it's
• 42:53
  something
• 42:53
  I
• 42:53
  would
• 42:53
  like
• 42:53
  to
• 42:53
  do,
• 42:54
  but
• 42:57
  because
• 42:57
  of
• 42:57
  my
• 42:58
  background,
• 42:58
  I
• 42:59
  always
• 42:59
  look
• 42:59
  at
• 42:59
  the
• 42:59
  why.
• 43:00
  So
• 43:01
  if
• 43:01
  I
• 43:02
  was
• 43:02
  to
• 43:02
  have
• 43:02
  a
• 43:02
  web
• 43:03
  page,
• 43:03
  it
• 43:03
  is
• 43:04
  simply
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  have
• 43:04
  a
• 43:04
  web
• 43:05
  page.
• 43:05
  So
• 43:05
  if
• 43:05
  someone
• 43:07
  decided
• 43:08
  to
• 43:08
  have
• 43:08
  a
• 43:08
  look,
• 43:08
  it's
• 43:08
  there.
• 43:09
  But
• 43:09
  it
• 43:10
  would
• 43:10
  only
• 43:10
  point
• 43:10
  people
• 43:11
  back
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  Amazon.
• 43:12
  Right?
• 43:12
  So
• 43:12
  if
• 43:13
  it's
• 43:13
  only
• 43:13
  pointing
• 43:13
  people
• 43:14
  back
• 43:14
  to
• 43:14
  Amazon,
• 43:15
  is
• 43:16
  it
• 43:16
  worth
• 43:16
  the
• 43:17
  X
• 43:17
  amount
• 43:17
  of
• 43:17
  dollars
• 43:18
  every
• 43:18
  single
• 43:18
  month?
• 43:20
  Versus
• 43:20
  I
• 43:21
  have
• 43:21
  the
• 43:21
  Instagram,
• 43:21
  I
• 43:22
  have
• 43:22
  the
• 43:22
  Facebook,
• 43:22
  they're
• 43:23
  free.
• 43:23
  They
• 43:24
  both
• 43:24
  point
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  Amazon,
• 43:25
  that's
• 43:25
  free.
• 43:26
  I
• 43:26
  have
• 43:26
  the
• 43:26
  Amazon
• 43:27
  authors
• 43:27
  page.
• 43:28
  That's
• 43:28
  free.
• 43:30
  How
• 43:30
  much
• 43:30
  am
• 43:30
  I
• 43:31
  missing
• 43:31
  out
• 43:32
  with
• 43:32
  having
• 43:32
  a
• 43:32
  webpage?
• 43:33
  And
• 43:33
  I
• 43:33
  did
• 43:33
  type
• 43:34
  into
• 43:34
  ChatGPT,
• 43:35
  have
• 43:36
  you
• 43:36
  heard
• 43:36
  of
• 43:36
  the
• 43:36
  Galloping
• 43:37
  Frog?
• 43:38
  And
• 43:38
  it
• 43:38
  did
• 43:39
  spit
• 43:39
  out
• 43:40
  that
• 43:40
  it
• 43:41
  knew
• 43:41
  that
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  had
• 43:42
  written
• 43:42
  it.
• 43:42
  So
• 43:42
  my
• 43:43
  AI
• 43:43
  is
• 43:43
  picking
• 43:44
  up
• 43:44
  that
• 43:44
  I've
• 43:45
  written
• 43:45
  a
• 43:45
  book
• 43:45
  and
• 43:46
  it's
• 43:46
  linked
• 43:46
  into
• 43:46
  Amazon.
• 43:48
  So
• 43:48
  a
• 43:48
  long
• 43:49
  answer
• 43:49
  to
• 43:49
  your
• 43:49
  question
• 43:50
  is
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  probably
• 43:51
  will
• 43:52
  because
• 43:52
  I'd
• 43:53
  to.
• 43:53
  Is
• 43:54
  it
• 43:54
  financially
• 43:55
  sensible?
• 43:56
  Probably
• 43:56
  not.
• 43:58
  I
• 43:59
  don't
• 43:59
  know
• 43:59
  if
• 43:59
  this
• 43:59
  answers
• 44:00
  your
• 44:00
  question
• 44:00
  in
• 44:00
  the
• 44:00
  best
• 44:01
  way.
• 44:01
  You
• 44:02
  know
• 44:02
  what?
• 44:02
  Because
• 44:02
  people,
• 44:03
  including
• 44:04
  us,
• 44:04
  had
• 44:04
  the
• 44:04
  same
• 44:05
  thought.
• 44:05
  Because
• 44:05
  when
• 44:06
  we
• 44:06
  first
• 44:06
  published
• 44:06
  our
• 44:07
  book,
• 44:08
  the
• 44:08
  Adventures
• 44:09
  of
• 44:09
  Caboose
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  Rocky
• 44:10
  Mountain
• 44:10
  Bear,
• 44:11
  the
• 44:11
  first
• 44:11
  Thing
• 44:12
  that
• 44:12
  people
• 44:12
  said
• 44:13
  to
• 44:13
  me,
• 44:13
  oh,
• 44:14
  what's
• 44:14
  your
• 44:14
  website?
• 44:16
  I
• 44:16
  said,
• 44:17
  website?
• 44:18
  They
• 44:18
  said,
• 44:18
  yeah,
• 44:18
  where's
• 44:19
  your
• 44:19
  home
• 44:19
  for
• 44:19
  your
• 44:19
  book?
• 44:20
  I
• 44:20
  never
• 44:21
  even
• 44:21
  gave
• 44:21
  that
• 44:21
  any
• 44:22
  consideration.
• 44:23
  And
• 44:24
  so
• 44:25
  eventually
• 44:25
  I
• 44:25
  decided,
• 44:27
  I
• 44:27
  guess
• 44:27
  I
• 44:27
  better
• 44:27
  have
• 44:28
  a
• 44:28
  website,
• 44:28
  because
• 44:29
  most
• 44:29
  of
• 44:29
  the
• 44:29
  guests,
• 44:30
  book
• 44:31
  author
• 44:31
  guests
• 44:31
  that
• 44:32
  I've
• 44:32
  interviewed,
• 44:33
  I'd
• 44:33
  say
• 44:33
  about
• 44:34
  95%
• 44:35
  of
• 44:35
  them
• 44:36
  have
• 44:36
  an
• 44:36
  author's
• 44:37
  website
• 44:38
  now.
• 44:38
  I'd
• 44:39
  say
• 44:39
  about
• 44:39
  80%
• 44:40
  of
• 44:40
  them
• 44:41
  use
• 44:41
  their
• 44:41
  own
• 44:42
  name.
• 44:44
  But
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  didn't
• 44:44
  want
• 44:44
  to
• 44:44
  do
• 44:45
  that
• 44:45
  because
• 44:46
  we
• 44:46
  were
• 44:46
  turning
• 44:47
  this
• 44:47
  into
• 44:47
  a
• 44:47
  book
• 44:48
  series.
• 44:49
  So
• 44:49
  I
• 44:49
  felt
• 44:49
  that
• 44:49
  it
• 44:50
  should
• 44:50
  be
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  standalone
• 44:52
  website
• 44:52
  based
• 44:53
  on
• 44:53
  the
• 44:53
  adventures
• 44:53
  of
• 44:54
  Caboose,
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  Rocky
• 44:55
  Mountain
• 44:55
  Bear.
• 44:55
  And
• 44:56
  that's.
• 44:56
  We
• 44:56
  just
• 44:57
  took
• 44:57
  that
• 44:57
  route.
• 44:58
  A
• 44:58
  lot
• 44:58
  of
• 44:58
  authors
• 44:59
  have
• 44:59
  all
• 45:00
  these
• 45:00
  book
• 45:00
  ideas
• 45:01
  in
• 45:01
  their
• 45:01
  head,
• 45:02
  but
• 45:02
  they're
• 45:02
  separate
• 45:03
  ideas.
• 45:03
  They're
• 45:04
  not
• 45:04
  a
• 45:04
  series.
• 45:05
  So
• 45:05
  I've
• 45:06
  talked
• 45:06
  to
• 45:06
  some
• 45:06
  who
• 45:06
  have
• 45:07
  four
• 45:07
  or
• 45:07
  five
• 45:07
  books,
• 45:08
  but
• 45:08
  they're
• 45:09
  all
• 45:09
  different
• 45:10
  in
• 45:10
  their
• 45:10
  makeup.
• 45:11
  Yeah.
• 45:11
  And
• 45:11
  that.
• 45:12
  That
• 45:12
  would
• 45:12
  make
• 45:12
  absolute
• 45:13
  sense
• 45:13
  because
• 45:14
  going
• 45:14
  back
• 45:14
  to
• 45:14
  the
• 45:14
  why
• 45:15
  they're
• 45:15
  promoting
• 45:15
  them
• 45:16
  as
• 45:16
  an
• 45:16
  author,
• 45:16
  they
• 45:17
  have
• 45:18
  multiple
• 45:18
  avenues
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  advertise,
• 45:20
  if
• 45:20
  you
• 45:20
  like,
• 45:21
  and
• 45:21
  explain.
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  was
• 45:23
  laughing
• 45:23
  about
• 45:23
  the
• 45:23
  name
• 45:24
  bit
• 45:24
  because
• 45:24
  I
• 45:25
  really
• 45:25
  tripped
• 45:26
  myself
• 45:26
  up
• 45:26
  with.
• 45:27
  When
• 45:27
  I
• 45:27
  was
• 45:27
  setting
• 45:27
  up
• 45:27
  my
• 45:28
  Instagram
• 45:29
  page,
• 45:30
  is
• 45:30
  it
• 45:30
  going
• 45:30
  to
• 45:30
  be
• 45:30
  the
• 45:31
  Galloping
• 45:31
  Frog,
• 45:32
  or
• 45:32
  is
• 45:32
  it
• 45:32
  going
• 45:33
  to
• 45:33
  be
• 45:33
  Karis
• 45:33
  Thompson,
• 45:34
  author?
• 45:35
  And
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  kept
• 45:36
  going
• 45:36
  backwards
• 45:37
  and
• 45:37
  forwards
• 45:37
  because,
• 45:38
  to
• 45:38
  exactly
• 45:38
  your
• 45:39
  point,
• 45:39
  if
• 45:39
  you
• 45:40
  go
• 45:40
  with
• 45:40
  the
• 45:40
  Galloping
• 45:40
  Frog
• 45:41
  and
• 45:41
  I
• 45:41
  write
• 45:41
  a
• 45:41
  second
• 45:41
  book,
• 45:42
  then
• 45:43
  I've
• 45:43
  messed
• 45:44
  up.
• 45:45
  If
• 45:45
  I
• 45:45
  go
• 45:45
  with
• 45:45
  Kerris
• 45:46
  Thompson,
• 45:46
  author,
• 45:48
  and
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  only
• 45:48
  ever
• 45:48
  write
• 45:49
  the
• 45:49
  Galloping
• 45:49
  Frog,
• 45:50
  that
• 45:50
  relies
• 45:51
  on
• 45:51
  people
• 45:51
  knowing
• 45:52
  how
• 45:52
  to
• 45:52
  spell
• 45:52
  my
• 45:53
  name.
• 45:54
  So
• 45:55
  is
• 45:55
  there
• 45:56
  more
• 45:56
  chance
• 45:56
  for
• 45:57
  someone
• 45:57
  searching
• 45:57
  the
• 45:57
  Galloping
• 45:58
  Frog
• 45:58
  than
• 45:58
  searching
• 45:59
  Cerys
• 46:00
  and
• 46:00
  actually
• 46:00
  spelling
• 46:01
  it
• 46:01
  correctly
• 46:02
  and
• 46:02
  finding
• 46:02
  me?
• 46:03
  So
• 46:04
  I
• 46:04
  actually
• 46:04
  went
• 46:04
  with,
• 46:05
  so
• 46:06
  my
• 46:06
  Instagram
• 46:06
  is
• 46:06
  the
• 46:07
  Galloping
• 46:07
  Frog,
• 46:08
  as
• 46:08
  is
• 46:08
  Facebook,
• 46:09
  because
• 46:09
  it's
• 46:10
  more
• 46:10
  rememberable
• 46:11
  than
• 46:11
  my
• 46:11
  name.
• 46:12
  Yes.
• 46:12
  If
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  search,
• 46:13
  my
• 46:14
  name
• 46:14
  pops
• 46:14
  up.
• 46:14
  Anyway.
• 46:15
  It's
• 46:15
  not.
• 46:15
  It's
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  unique
• 46:16
  name.
• 46:16
  So
• 46:17
  my
• 46:17
  LinkedIn
• 46:17
  pops
• 46:17
  up.
• 46:18
  I.
• 46:18
  I
• 46:19
  say
• 46:19
  that
• 46:19
  I'm
• 46:19
  a
• 46:19
  published
• 46:20
  author
• 46:20
  on
• 46:20
  LinkedIn,
• 46:21
  so
• 46:22
  if
• 46:22
  I
• 46:22
  was
• 46:22
  to
• 46:22
  have
• 46:22
  a
• 46:23
  webpage,
• 46:24
  it
• 46:24
  would
• 46:24
  literally
• 46:24
  just
• 46:25
  be
• 46:26
  my
• 46:27
  company
• 46:27
  website.
• 46:28
  I
• 46:28
  talk
• 46:28
  about
• 46:28
  the
• 46:28
  fact
• 46:29
  I
• 46:29
  have
• 46:29
  a
• 46:29
  book,
• 46:29
  so
• 46:29
  it's
• 46:30
  on
• 46:30
  the
• 46:30
  Internet,
• 46:31
  but
• 46:32
  I
• 46:32
  didn't
• 46:32
  know
• 46:32
  whether
• 46:32
  it
• 46:33
  needed
• 46:33
  its
• 46:33
  own,
• 46:34
  like,
• 46:35
  website
• 46:35
  space.
• 46:36
  You
• 46:36
  can
• 46:37
  set
• 46:37
  up
• 46:37
  websites
• 46:38
  for
• 46:38
  free,
• 46:38
  obviously,
• 46:39
  but
• 46:40
  then
• 46:40
  it
• 46:40
  gets
• 46:40
  clunky.
• 46:41
  The
• 46:41
  URL
• 46:42
  gets
• 46:42
  clunky.
• 46:44
  So
• 46:45
  for
• 46:45
  now,
• 46:45
  I've
• 46:45
  put
• 46:46
  it
• 46:46
  in
• 46:46
  the
• 46:46
  this
• 46:47
  is
• 46:47
  too
• 46:47
  difficult
• 46:47
  for
• 46:48
  me
• 46:48
  to
• 46:48
  decide
• 46:49
  box,
• 46:51
  and
• 46:51
  I
• 46:51
  will
• 46:52
  revisit
• 46:52
  it
• 46:53
  if
• 46:53
  I
• 46:53
  do
• 46:53
  ever
• 46:54
  come
• 46:54
  out
• 46:54
  with
• 46:54
  Second
• 46:54
  book,
• 46:55
  then.
• 46:55
  Absolutely.
• 46:55
  It
• 46:56
  would
• 46:56
  make
• 46:56
  sense.
• 46:57
  But
• 46:58
  I
• 46:58
  hope
• 46:59
  if
• 46:59
  anyone's
• 46:59
  listening
• 47:00
  and
• 47:00
  they're
• 47:00
  thinking,
• 47:00
  oh,
• 47:00
  do
• 47:01
  I
• 47:01
  have
• 47:01
  to
• 47:01
  have
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  website?
• 47:02
  There
• 47:02
  are
• 47:03
  so
• 47:03
  many
• 47:03
  ways
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  think
• 47:04
  you
• 47:05
  could
• 47:05
  approach
• 47:05
  it.
• 47:06
  Absolutely.
• 47:06
  And
• 47:07
  like
• 47:07
  you
• 47:07
  said,
• 47:07
  you
• 47:08
  can
• 47:08
  link
• 47:09
  to
• 47:09
  your
• 47:09
  Amazon
• 47:11
  account
• 47:11
  through
• 47:12
  all
• 47:12
  your
• 47:12
  social
• 47:12
  media.
• 47:13
  Yeah,
• 47:13
  they're
• 47:14
  all
• 47:14
  there.
• 47:14
  And
• 47:14
  every
• 47:14
  time
• 47:15
  I
• 47:15
  post,
• 47:15
  I've
• 47:16
  been
• 47:16
  quite
• 47:16
  lucky
• 47:16
  because
• 47:17
  I
• 47:17
  have
• 47:17
  a
• 47:17
  business
• 47:18
  Instagram
• 47:18
  page.
• 47:19
  I
• 47:20
  first
• 47:20
  promoted
• 47:21
  the
• 47:21
  book
• 47:21
  through
• 47:21
  that
• 47:22
  because
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  already
• 47:22
  had
• 47:22
  followers.
• 47:24
  Then
• 47:24
  I
• 47:24
  started
• 47:25
  posting
• 47:25
  from
• 47:25
  my
• 47:26
  Galloping
• 47:26
  Frog
• 47:27
  Instagram
• 47:27
  page
• 47:28
  and
• 47:29
  connected
• 47:30
  them
• 47:30
  as
• 47:30
  collaborators.
• 47:31
  So
• 47:31
  they
• 47:31
  appeared
• 47:31
  on
• 47:32
  both.
• 47:32
  Yes.
• 47:33
  Now
• 47:33
  I
• 47:33
  will
• 47:33
  just
• 47:34
  start
• 47:34
  posting
• 47:34
  more
• 47:35
  and
• 47:35
  more
• 47:35
  on
• 47:35
  the
• 47:35
  Galloping
• 47:36
  Frog
• 47:36
  page
• 47:37
  and
• 47:37
  then
• 47:37
  you
• 47:37
  can
• 47:37
  link
• 47:37
  to
• 47:37
  Amazon
• 47:38
  and
• 47:38
  you
• 47:38
  can
• 47:38
  do
• 47:39
  various
• 47:39
  things.
• 47:39
  So.
• 47:40
  Yeah,
• 47:40
  but
• 47:40
  that
• 47:40
  to
• 47:41
  your
• 47:41
  very
• 47:41
  first
• 47:41
  question,
• 47:42
  this
• 47:42
  is
• 47:42
  a
• 47:42
  whole
• 47:43
  side
• 47:43
  of
• 47:43
  writing
• 47:43
  a
• 47:44
  book
• 47:44
  that
• 47:44
  you
• 47:44
  don't
• 47:44
  think
• 47:45
  about.
• 47:45
  You're
• 47:45
  now
• 47:45
  getting
• 47:46
  into
• 47:46
  marketing
• 47:47
  and
• 47:48
  digital
• 47:48
  marketing
• 47:49
  and
• 47:49
  websites
• 47:50
  and
• 47:50
  SEO
• 47:51
  and.
• 47:52
  Absolutely.
• 47:55
  Even
• 47:56
  for
• 47:56
  when
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  first
• 47:57
  started,
• 47:58
  when
• 47:58
  we
• 47:58
  first
• 47:58
  launched
• 47:59
  a
• 47:59
  book,
• 47:59
  and
• 47:59
  then
• 48:00
  I
• 48:00
  was
• 48:00
  trying
• 48:00
  to
• 48:00
  figure
• 48:01
  out,
• 48:01
  as
• 48:01
  we
• 48:01
  talked
• 48:02
  earlier,
• 48:02
  what's
• 48:03
  going
• 48:03
  to
• 48:03
  be
• 48:03
  my
• 48:03
  marketing
• 48:04
  plan.
• 48:05
  Like,
• 48:05
  how
• 48:05
  am
• 48:05
  I
• 48:05
  going
• 48:06
  to
• 48:06
  build
• 48:06
  our
• 48:06
  approach
• 48:07
  to
• 48:07
  marketing
• 48:07
  for
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  book.
• 48:09
  And
• 48:09
  one
• 48:10
  of
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  things
• 48:10
  that
• 48:10
  I
• 48:11
  decided
• 48:11
  on
• 48:12
  was
• 48:12
  a
• 48:12
  podcast
• 48:13
  show.
• 48:14
  And
• 48:14
  of
• 48:14
  course,
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  have
• 48:15
  the
• 48:15
  kind
• 48:15
  of
• 48:15
  the
• 48:15
  same
• 48:16
  feel.
• 48:17
  If
• 48:17
  you
• 48:17
  look
• 48:17
  at
• 48:17
  our
• 48:18
  logo
• 48:18
  in
• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
  back,
• 48:19
  the
• 48:19
  Adventures
• 48:20
  in
• 48:20
  the
• 48:20
  Heart
• 48:21
  of
• 48:21
  Children's
• 48:21
  Book
• 48:21
  Authors,
• 48:22
  it
• 48:22
  has
• 48:23
  that
• 48:23
  outdoor
• 48:23
  recreational
• 48:24
  feel,
• 48:25
  the
• 48:25
  woodsy
• 48:26
  kind
• 48:26
  of
• 48:26
  brownie
• 48:27
  greeny
• 48:28
  effect.
• 48:29
  The
• 48:29
  only
• 48:29
  thing
• 48:29
  is
• 48:30
  that
• 48:30
  I
• 48:30
  didn't
• 48:30
  want
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  spend
• 48:31
  a
• 48:31
  whole
• 48:32
  bunch
• 48:32
  of
• 48:32
  money
• 48:33
  on
• 48:34
  a
• 48:34
  separate
• 48:35
  website.
• 48:36
  So
• 48:36
  if
• 48:36
  you
• 48:37
  go
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  our
• 48:37
  website,
• 48:38
  The
• 48:39
  Adventures
• 48:39
  of
• 48:39
  Caboosetherockymountainbear.com
• 48:43
  on
• 48:43
  There
• 48:44
  is
• 48:44
  our
• 48:44
  tab
• 48:45
  for
• 48:45
  our
• 48:45
  podcast
• 48:46
  show.
• 48:47
  But
• 48:47
  if
• 48:47
  you
• 48:47
  actually
• 48:47
  put
• 48:48
  in
• 48:48
  Adventures
• 48:49
  in
• 48:49
  the
• 48:49
  heart
• 48:49
  of
• 48:49
  children's
• 48:50
  bookauthors.com
• 48:52
  but
• 48:53
  it
• 48:53
  redirects
• 48:53
  you
• 48:54
  to
• 48:54
  caboose
• 48:55
  the
• 48:55
  Rocky.
• 48:56
  So
• 48:56
  again,
• 48:57
  it
• 48:57
  all
• 48:57
  comes
• 48:57
  down
• 48:58
  to,
• 48:58
  like
• 48:58
  you
• 48:58
  said,
• 48:59
  managing
• 48:59
  your
• 48:59
  costs
• 49:00
  until
• 49:01
  at
• 49:02
  some
• 49:02
  point,
• 49:02
  you're
• 49:03
  at
• 49:03
  least
• 49:03
  generating
• 49:03
  some
• 49:04
  revenue
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  offset
• 49:06
  some
• 49:06
  of
• 49:06
  these
• 49:06
  costs.
• 49:07
  Absolutely.
• 49:08
  And
• 49:08
  it
• 49:08
  all
• 49:08
  just
• 49:09
  boils
• 49:09
  down
• 49:09
  to
• 49:09
  what
• 49:10
  are
• 49:10
  your
• 49:10
  objectives?
• 49:11
  Mine
• 49:12
  was
• 49:13
  get
• 49:13
  the
• 49:13
  story
• 49:13
  out
• 49:14
  there.
• 49:14
  I've
• 49:14
  had
• 49:14
  videos
• 49:15
  and
• 49:15
  voice
• 49:15
  notes
• 49:16
  of
• 49:16
  my
• 49:16
  friend's
• 49:17
  children
• 49:17
  reciting
• 49:18
  the
• 49:18
  book,
• 49:19
  talking
• 49:20
  about
• 49:20
  the
• 49:20
  Galloping
• 49:20
  Frog.
• 49:21
  And
• 49:21
  for
• 49:21
  me,
• 49:22
  I've
• 49:23
  won
• 49:24
  just
• 49:25
  to
• 49:25
  hear
• 49:25
  another
• 49:26
  child
• 49:26
  talk
• 49:26
  about
• 49:27
  a
• 49:27
  character
• 49:27
  my
• 49:28
  granddad
• 49:28
  had
• 49:28
  made
• 49:28
  up
• 49:29
  for
• 49:29
  when
• 49:29
  I
• 49:29
  was
• 49:29
  a
• 49:29
  child.
• 49:31
  It
• 49:31
  doesn't
• 49:31
  get
• 49:31
  better
• 49:31
  than
• 49:32
  that
• 49:32
  in
• 49:32
  my
• 49:32
  mind.
• 49:32
  Absolutely.
• 49:34
  That's
• 49:34
  what
• 49:34
  I
• 49:35
  keep
• 49:35
  trying
• 49:35
  to
• 49:35
  keep
• 49:36
  in
• 49:36
  mind.
• 49:37
  My
• 49:37
  goal
• 49:37
  isn't
• 49:38
  to
• 49:38
  become
• 49:39
  A
• 49:39
  world
• 49:39
  renowned
• 49:40
  book
• 49:40
  authority.
• 49:42
  But
• 49:42
  if
• 49:43
  someone
• 49:43
  else's
• 49:44
  goal
• 49:44
  is
• 49:44
  that,
• 49:45
  yeah,
• 49:45
  you
• 49:45
  need
• 49:46
  a
• 49:46
  website,
• 49:46
  you
• 49:46
  need
• 49:46
  a
• 49:46
  marketing
• 49:47
  plan,
• 49:47
  you
• 49:47
  need
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  be
• 49:49
  pushing
• 49:50
  out
• 49:50
  and
• 49:50
  not
• 49:51
  just
• 49:51
  waiting
• 49:51
  for
• 49:51
  people
• 49:51
  to
• 49:52
  find
• 49:52
  you.
• 49:52
  It
• 49:53
  just
• 49:53
  boils
• 49:53
  down
• 49:53
  to
• 49:53
  what
• 49:54
  is
• 49:54
  your.
• 49:55
  What
• 49:55
  are
• 49:55
  your
• 49:55
  objectives,
• 49:56
  what's
• 49:56
  your
• 49:56
  vision?
• 49:56
  Me?
• 49:57
  Mine
• 49:57
  is
• 49:57
  just
• 49:58
  very
• 49:58
  humble.
• 49:58
  If
• 49:59
  people
• 49:59
  read
• 49:59
  it
• 50:00
  and
• 50:00
  they
• 50:00
  like,
• 50:01
  just
• 50:01
  makes
• 50:02
  me
• 50:02
  feel
• 50:02
  good.
• 50:03
  Absolutely.
• 50:04
  And
• 50:04
  you
• 50:04
  know
• 50:04
  what
• 50:04
  the
• 50:04
  whole
• 50:05
  thing
• 50:05
  is
• 50:06
  like
• 50:06
  you
• 50:06
  said,
• 50:07
  you've
• 50:07
  got
• 50:07
  your.
• 50:08
  The
• 50:08
  Galloping
• 50:09
  Frog
• 50:09
  on
• 50:10
  your
• 50:10
  Instagram
• 50:10
  page,
• 50:11
  on
• 50:11
  your
• 50:12
  Facebook
• 50:12
  page.
• 50:13
  And
• 50:13
  how
• 50:13
  we
• 50:14
  met
• 50:15
  was.
• 50:15
  We
• 50:16
  met
• 50:16
  through.
• 50:17
  I
• 50:17
  visited
• 50:18
  a
• 50:19
  independent
• 50:19
  bookstore
• 50:20
  in
• 50:20
  your
• 50:20
  hometown.
• 50:21
  Now
• 50:21
  it's
• 50:21
  your
• 50:21
  hometown.
• 50:22
  Yeah.
• 50:22
  Of
• 50:23
  Cochrane,
• 50:23
  Alberta.
• 50:24
  And
• 50:24
  for
• 50:24
  the
• 50:25
  listeners,
• 50:25
  Cochrane,
• 50:26
  Alberta
• 50:26
  is
• 50:27
  in
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  foothills
• 50:28
  of
• 50:28
  the
• 50:28
  rockies,
• 50:29
  probably
• 50:30
  about
• 50:30
  45
• 50:31
  minutes
• 50:31
  from
• 50:31
  Banff
• 50:32
  National
• 50:32
  Park.
• 50:33
  So
• 50:33
  tell
• 50:33
  us
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  story
• 50:34
  about
• 50:36
  how
• 50:36
  did
• 50:36
  you
• 50:36
  find
• 50:37
  a
• 50:37
  couple
• 50:37
  of
• 50:37
  book
• 50:38
  retailers?
• 50:38
  So
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  know
• 50:39
  you're
• 50:39
  in
• 50:39
  the
• 50:39
  independent
• 50:40
  bookstore
• 50:40
  found.
• 50:42
  Talk
• 50:42
  to
• 50:42
  us
• 50:42
  about
• 50:42
  that
• 50:43
  relationship
• 50:43
  and
• 50:44
  then
• 50:44
  talk
• 50:44
  to
• 50:44
  us
• 50:44
  about
• 50:45
  the
• 50:45
  local
• 50:46
  pharmacy,
• 50:46
  because
• 50:47
  I
• 50:47
  find
• 50:47
  that
• 50:47
  very
• 50:47
  fascinating
• 50:48
  also.
• 50:49
  Yes.
• 50:50
  So
• 50:51
  when
• 50:51
  I
• 50:51
  said
• 50:51
  to
• 50:51
  you
• 50:52
  earlier
• 50:52
  in
• 50:52
  the
• 50:52
  podcast,
• 50:53
  so
• 50:53
  I
• 50:54
  thought
• 50:54
  about
• 50:54
  what
• 50:54
  can
• 50:55
  I
• 50:55
  do?
• 50:55
  And
• 50:56
  the
• 50:56
  bookstore
• 50:57
  in
• 50:57
  Cochrane
• 50:58
  is
• 50:58
  one
• 50:58
  of
• 50:58
  the
• 50:59
  hubs
• 50:59
  of
• 50:59
  our
• 51:00
  town.
• 51:00
  It's
• 51:00
  not
• 51:01
  just
• 51:01
  a
• 51:01
  bookstore.
• 51:02
  You
• 51:02
  go
• 51:02
  in
• 51:03
  there,
• 51:03
  there's
• 51:03
  couches,
• 51:05
  there's.
• 51:05
  You
• 51:06
  can
• 51:06
  order
• 51:06
  coffee.
• 51:07
  And
• 51:07
  it's
• 51:08
  an
• 51:08
  independent
• 51:08
  store.
• 51:09
  Everything's
• 51:09
  mix
• 51:10
  matched.
• 51:10
  It's
• 51:11
  just,
• 51:11
  it's
• 51:12
  a
• 51:12
  really
• 51:12
  lovely
• 51:13
  homely
• 51:13
  store
• 51:14
  and
• 51:15
  they
• 51:15
  host
• 51:15
  different
• 51:16
  events.
• 51:17
  And
• 51:17
  so
• 51:17
  everyone's
• 51:18
  in
• 51:18
  that
• 51:18
  store
• 51:18
  all
• 51:19
  the
• 51:19
  time.
• 51:19
  So
• 51:19
  I
• 51:19
  love
• 51:20
  going
• 51:20
  in
• 51:20
  there.
• 51:21
  And
• 51:21
  I
• 51:22
  looked
• 51:22
  on
• 51:22
  their
• 51:22
  website
• 51:23
  just
• 51:23
  to
• 51:23
  see,
• 51:24
  because
• 51:24
  I
• 51:24
  don't
• 51:24
  know
• 51:25
  how
• 51:25
  bookstores
• 51:26
  get
• 51:26
  books.
• 51:26
  I
• 51:26
  just
• 51:26
  assumed
• 51:27
  they
• 51:27
  order
• 51:27
  it
• 51:28
  from
• 51:28
  somewhere
• 51:28
  central,
• 51:29
  from
• 51:30
  serious
• 51:31
  publishers.
• 51:32
  I
• 51:33
  had
• 51:33
  no
• 51:33
  idea
• 51:33
  what
• 51:34
  this
• 51:34
  world
• 51:34
  was.
• 51:34
  So
• 51:35
  I
• 51:35
  went
• 51:35
  on
• 51:35
  their
• 51:35
  website
• 51:36
  and
• 51:37
  it
• 51:37
  says
• 51:38
  local
• 51:38
  authors.
• 51:39
  And
• 51:39
  I
• 51:40
  read
• 51:40
  the
• 51:40
  rules
• 51:41
  because
• 51:41
  they
• 51:41
  have
• 51:41
  different
• 51:41
  rules
• 51:42
  if
• 51:42
  different
• 51:42
  stores
• 51:43
  have
• 51:43
  different
• 51:43
  rules.
• 51:44
  And
• 51:44
  it
• 51:44
  said,
• 51:45
  reach
• 51:45
  out
• 51:45
  to
• 51:46
  us
• 51:46
  as
• 51:46
  long
• 51:46
  as
• 51:46
  you
• 51:46
  meet
• 51:47
  this
• 51:47
  criteria.
• 51:48
  So
• 51:48
  I
• 51:48
  emailed
• 51:49
  them
• 51:49
  and
• 51:50
  they
• 51:50
  said,
• 51:51
  come
• 51:51
  in,
• 51:51
  bring
• 51:52
  your
• 51:52
  book,
• 51:53
  bring
• 51:53
  your
• 51:53
  information,
• 51:55
  we
• 51:55
  will
• 51:55
  read
• 51:55
  it.
• 51:56
  If
• 51:56
  we
• 51:56
  think
• 51:57
  it
• 51:57
  is
• 51:57
  a
• 51:57
  good
• 51:57
  fit,
• 51:58
  we'll
• 51:59
  get
• 51:59
  in
• 51:59
  touch.
• 52:00
  So
• 52:00
  I
• 52:01
  dropped
• 52:01
  it
• 52:01
  off
• 52:02
  and
• 52:02
  a
• 52:02
  few
• 52:02
  weeks
• 52:03
  later
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  got
• 52:03
  an
• 52:03
  email
• 52:03
  to
• 52:04
  say
• 52:04
  that
• 52:04
  they
• 52:04
  loved
• 52:04
  it
• 52:05
  and
• 52:05
  that
• 52:05
  they
• 52:05
  wanted
• 52:06
  me
• 52:06
  to
• 52:06
  do
• 52:07
  a
• 52:07
  book
• 52:07
  reading.
• 52:08
  And
• 52:09
  this
• 52:09
  was
• 52:09
  almost
• 52:10
  the
• 52:11
  entry
• 52:11
  in.
• 52:12
  So
• 52:13
  I
• 52:13
  did
• 52:13
  this
• 52:13
  book
• 52:13
  reading,
• 52:14
  obviously
• 52:15
  told
• 52:15
  all
• 52:15
  my
• 52:15
  friends
• 52:15
  about
• 52:15
  it,
• 52:16
  put
• 52:16
  it
• 52:17
  all
• 52:17
  over
• 52:17
  social
• 52:17
  media.
• 52:18
  We
• 52:18
  have
• 52:18
  a
• 52:19
  community
• 52:19
  group
• 52:19
  here
• 52:20
  in
• 52:20
  Cochrane,
• 52:21
  so
• 52:21
  I
• 52:21
  advertised
• 52:21
  it
• 52:22
  on
• 52:22
  there.
• 52:23
  And
• 52:23
  so
• 52:23
  I,
• 52:24
  I
• 52:25
  didn't
• 52:25
  even
• 52:25
  know
• 52:25
  how
• 52:25
  this
• 52:25
  was
• 52:26
  gonna
• 52:26
  go.
• 52:26
  For
• 52:26
  some
• 52:26
  reason
• 52:27
  in
• 52:27
  my
• 52:27
  head
• 52:28
  They've
• 52:28
  got
• 52:28
  like
• 52:28
  a
• 52:29
  little
• 52:29
  stage
• 52:30
  and
• 52:30
  I
• 52:30
  thought,
• 52:31
  oh,
• 52:31
  maybe
• 52:31
  they'll
• 52:31
  introduce
• 52:32
  me
• 52:32
  and
• 52:32
  I'll
• 52:32
  do
• 52:32
  this
• 52:32
  book
• 52:33
  reading.
• 52:33
  And
• 52:33
  then
• 52:33
  they'll
• 52:34
  say,
• 52:34
  if
• 52:34
  you
• 52:34
  wanna
• 52:34
  buy
• 52:34
  it,
• 52:34
  come
• 52:35
  to
• 52:35
  the
• 52:35
  till
• 52:35
  at
• 52:35
  the
• 52:36
  front.
• 52:36
  They
• 52:37
  didn't.
• 52:37
  It
• 52:37
  wasn't
• 52:38
  like
• 52:38
  that
• 52:38
  at
• 52:38
  all.
• 52:38
  It
• 52:39
  was
• 52:39
  basically,
• 52:39
  you've
• 52:40
  got
• 52:40
  two
• 52:40
  hours
• 52:40
  in
• 52:41
  the
• 52:41
  store
• 52:41
  and
• 52:42
  as
• 52:42
  people
• 52:42
  come
• 52:42
  in,
• 52:43
  if
• 52:43
  they
• 52:44
  want
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  hear
• 52:44
  it,
• 52:44
  read
• 52:45
  them
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  book.
• 52:46
  And
• 52:46
  I
• 52:47
  thought,
• 52:47
  that's
• 52:47
  very
• 52:48
  daunting
• 52:48
  because
• 52:48
  now
• 52:50
  I'm
• 52:50
  promoting
• 52:51
  myself,
• 52:52
  which.
• 52:54
  That's
• 52:54
  a
• 52:55
  whole
• 52:55
  other
• 52:55
  side
• 52:56
  of
• 52:56
  book
• 52:56
  writing.
• 52:57
  You
• 52:57
  don't
• 52:57
  think
• 52:58
  I
• 52:58
  just
• 52:58
  wanted
• 52:58
  to
• 52:59
  read
• 52:59
  the
• 52:59
  book?
• 52:59
  So,
• 53:00
  thankfully,
• 53:01
  all
• 53:01
  my
• 53:01
  friends
• 53:02
  turned
• 53:02
  up
• 53:02
  at
• 53:02
  the
• 53:02
  same
• 53:03
  time.
• 53:03
  So
• 53:03
  I
• 53:03
  got
• 53:03
  to
• 53:04
  read
• 53:04
  to
• 53:04
  a
• 53:04
  crowd
• 53:05
  and
• 53:05
  there
• 53:05
  was
• 53:06
  a
• 53:06
  table
• 53:06
  of
• 53:06
  people
• 53:07
  who
• 53:07
  weren't
• 53:08
  with
• 53:08
  us
• 53:09
  who
• 53:09
  heard
• 53:09
  it
• 53:09
  and
• 53:09
  bought
• 53:10
  a
• 53:10
  copy.
• 53:11
  There
• 53:11
  were
• 53:11
  some
• 53:12
  other
• 53:12
  people
• 53:12
  that'd
• 53:12
  seen
• 53:13
  on
• 53:13
  social
• 53:13
  media,
• 53:13
  I
• 53:14
  was
• 53:14
  doing
• 53:14
  it,
• 53:14
  they
• 53:14
  bought
• 53:14
  a
• 53:15
  copy.
• 53:16
  And
• 53:16
  anyway,
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  was
• 53:16
  there
• 53:17
  for
• 53:17
  the
• 53:17
  two
• 53:17
  hours
• 53:19
  and
• 53:19
  it
• 53:19
  turns
• 53:20
  out
• 53:20
  I
• 53:20
  sold
• 53:21
  the
• 53:22
  most
• 53:22
  books
• 53:23
  they've
• 53:23
  ever
• 53:23
  had
• 53:24
  at
• 53:24
  book
• 53:24
  reading
• 53:25
  in
• 53:25
  that
• 53:25
  store.
• 53:26
  Congratulations.
• 53:27
  Thank
• 53:28
  you
• 53:28
  very
• 53:28
  much.
• 53:28
  So
• 53:28
  then
• 53:29
  they
• 53:29
  bought
• 53:29
  an
• 53:29
  additional
• 53:30
  three
• 53:30
  copies,
• 53:31
  asked
• 53:32
  me,
• 53:32
  and
• 53:32
  obviously
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  signed
• 53:33
  all
• 53:33
  these
• 53:33
  copies
• 53:34
  as
• 53:34
  well.
• 53:34
  Asked
• 53:34
  me
• 53:34
  to
• 53:35
  sign
• 53:35
  it,
• 53:35
  which.
• 53:36
  That
• 53:36
  again,
• 53:36
  you
• 53:37
  think,
• 53:37
  I
• 53:37
  don't
• 53:37
  know
• 53:37
  what
• 53:38
  my
• 53:38
  signature
• 53:38
  is.
• 53:38
  I'm
• 53:39
  just.
• 53:39
  It's
• 53:39
  just
• 53:39
  little
• 53:40
  me.
• 53:40
  I
• 53:40
  don't
• 53:40
  know
• 53:40
  what
• 53:41
  I'm
• 53:41
  writing
• 53:41
  in
• 53:41
  a
• 53:41
  book.
• 53:43
  So
• 53:43
  I
• 53:43
  signed
• 53:43
  these
• 53:44
  extra
• 53:45
  books,
• 53:45
  they
• 53:46
  put
• 53:46
  them
• 53:46
  on
• 53:46
  the
• 53:46
  shelf,
• 53:47
  and
• 53:47
  so
• 53:47
  obviously
• 53:47
  I'm
• 53:47
  taking
• 53:48
  photos,
• 53:48
  my
• 53:48
  book's
• 53:49
  on
• 53:49
  a
• 53:49
  shelf.
• 53:50
  And
• 53:50
  they
• 53:51
  sold.
• 53:52
  They.
• 53:52
  I
• 53:52
  went
• 53:53
  in
• 53:53
  one
• 53:53
  day
• 53:53
  and
• 53:53
  I
• 53:53
  saw
• 53:54
  that
• 53:54
  there
• 53:54
  was
• 53:54
  a
• 53:54
  copy
• 53:54
  left.
• 53:56
  And
• 53:56
  then
• 53:56
  I
• 53:56
  went
• 53:56
  in
• 53:57
  the
• 53:57
  next
• 53:57
  day
• 53:57
  and
• 53:57
  the
• 53:57
  copy
• 53:58
  had
• 53:58
  gone.
• 53:58
  And
• 53:59
  so
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  felt
• 53:59
  so
• 54:00
  bold.
• 54:00
  But
• 54:00
  I
• 54:01
  emailed
• 54:01
  my
• 54:01
  lovely
• 54:02
  contact
• 54:03
  and
• 54:03
  said,
• 54:03
  I've
• 54:04
  noticed
• 54:04
  that
• 54:05
  the
• 54:05
  books
• 54:05
  have
• 54:06
  gone.
• 54:07
  Would
• 54:07
  you
• 54:07
  be
• 54:07
  interested
• 54:08
  in
• 54:08
  any
• 54:08
  more?
• 54:08
  And
• 54:08
  she
• 54:09
  said,
• 54:09
  absolutely,
• 54:09
  we'll
• 54:10
  have
• 54:10
  another
• 54:10
  five.
• 54:12
  So
• 54:12
  I'm
• 54:13
  back
• 54:13
  on
• 54:13
  the
• 54:13
  shelf
• 54:13
  there
• 54:14
  and
• 54:14
  then,
• 54:15
  because
• 54:15
  I
• 54:15
  know
• 54:15
  you'd
• 54:16
  gone
• 54:16
  into
• 54:16
  the
• 54:16
  store.
• 54:16
  And
• 54:16
  so
• 54:17
  she
• 54:17
  emailed
• 54:17
  me
• 54:18
  to
• 54:18
  say
• 54:18
  that
• 54:18
  there
• 54:19
  was
• 54:19
  a
• 54:19
  podcast.
• 54:19
  And
• 54:20
  so
• 54:20
  that's
• 54:20
  how
• 54:20
  I
• 54:20
  found.
• 54:21
  It's
• 54:21
  called
• 54:21
  Found.
• 54:22
  Yes,
• 54:22
  Found
• 54:22
  Books.
• 54:23
  Downtown
• 54:24
  Cochrane.
• 54:25
  Yeah.
• 54:25
  For
• 54:25
  those
• 54:26
  coming
• 54:26
  to
• 54:26
  visit
• 54:26
  the
• 54:27
  Rocky
• 54:28
  Mountains
• 54:28
  and
• 54:28
  go
• 54:28
  to
• 54:29
  Banff,
• 54:29
  if
• 54:30
  you
• 54:30
  actually
• 54:31
  go
• 54:31
  into
• 54:31
  Cochrane,
• 54:33
  Cochrane
• 54:33
  is
• 54:34
  about
• 54:34
  15
• 54:35
  minutes
• 54:36
  west
• 54:37
  of
• 54:38
  Calgary.
• 54:39
  They
• 54:39
  have
• 54:39
  the
• 54:40
  most
• 54:40
  unique.
• 54:41
  They
• 54:42
  call
• 54:42
  it
• 54:42
  Historic
• 54:43
  Downtown
• 54:43
  Cochrane.
• 54:45
  And
• 54:45
  the
• 54:46
  Found
• 54:46
  Bookstore
• 54:47
  is
• 54:47
  right
• 54:47
  there.
• 54:47
  So
• 54:48
  you're
• 54:48
  making
• 54:49
  your
• 54:49
  travels.
• 54:50
  So
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  got
• 54:50
  a
• 54:50
  little
• 54:50
  extra
• 54:51
  time.
• 54:52
  Do
• 54:52
  as
• 54:52
  Charis
• 54:53
  has
• 54:53
  said.
• 54:53
  Go
• 54:54
  and
• 54:54
  see
• 54:54
  something.
• 54:55
  A
• 54:55
  unique
• 54:56
  bookstore
• 54:57
  that
• 54:57
  has
• 54:57
  an
• 54:58
  espresso
• 54:58
  machine
• 54:59
  going.
• 55:00
  They
• 55:00
  Actually
• 55:00
  have.
• 55:01
  They
• 55:01
  have
• 55:02
  LP
• 55:02
  albums
• 55:03
  like
• 55:03
  the
• 55:03
  old
• 55:04
  records
• 55:05
  they
• 55:05
  do,
• 55:05
  yeah,
• 55:05
  it's
• 55:06
  very
• 55:06
  eclectic
• 55:07
  and
• 55:07
  quite
• 55:07
  unique.
• 55:08
  So
• 55:09
  do
• 55:09
  yourself
• 55:09
  a
• 55:09
  favor
• 55:10
  if
• 55:10
  you're
• 55:11
  going
• 55:11
  and
• 55:12
  heading
• 55:12
  out
• 55:12
  to
• 55:12
  the
• 55:12
  Rocky
• 55:13
  Mountains
• 55:13
  and
• 55:14
  make
• 55:14
  a
• 55:14
  side
• 55:14
  trip
• 55:15
  into
• 55:15
  downtown
• 55:16
  Cochrane.
• 55:17
  Glad
• 55:18
  you
• 55:18
  said
• 55:18
  that
• 55:18
  because
• 55:18
  it's
• 55:19
  a
• 55:19
  beautiful
• 55:19
  store
• 55:20
  and
• 55:20
  I've
• 55:20
  worked
• 55:21
  there
• 55:21
  in
• 55:21
  an
• 55:22
  afternoon
• 55:22
  before
• 55:22
  because
• 55:23
  it's
• 55:23
  just
• 55:23
  so
• 55:23
  comfortable
• 55:24
  and
• 55:24
  they
• 55:25
  have
• 55:25
  this
• 55:25
  really
• 55:25
  cute
• 55:26
  children's
• 55:27
  corner
• 55:27
  and
• 55:27
  that's
• 55:28
  where
• 55:28
  I
• 55:28
  did
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  reading
• 55:29
  in
• 55:29
  there.
• 55:29
  So
• 55:29
  that
• 55:30
  was
• 55:30
  that.
• 55:30
  And
• 55:30
  then
• 55:31
  I
• 55:31
  have
• 55:31
  a
• 55:31
  friend
• 55:32
  who
• 55:32
  works
• 55:33
  at
• 55:33
  the
• 55:33
  local
• 55:33
  pharmacy.
• 55:34
  So
• 55:34
  we've
• 55:35
  got
• 55:35
  a
• 55:35
  number
• 55:35
  of
• 55:35
  pharmacies
• 55:36
  in
• 55:36
  town,
• 55:36
  but
• 55:37
  there's
• 55:37
  two
• 55:37
  pharmacy
• 55:38
  they,
• 55:39
  they
• 55:39
  do
• 55:39
  lots
• 55:40
  for
• 55:40
  our
• 55:40
  community
• 55:41
  so
• 55:41
  much.
• 55:41
  They
• 55:42
  have
• 55:42
  community
• 55:42
  Roots
• 55:43
  program.
• 55:44
  They
• 55:44
  are
• 55:44
  another
• 55:45
  hub
• 55:45
  of
• 55:46
  Cochrane.
• 55:47
  And
• 55:47
  so
• 55:47
  my
• 55:47
  friend
• 55:48
  said
• 55:48
  they,
• 55:48
  they
• 55:49
  like
• 55:49
  supporting
• 55:50
  the
• 55:50
  community
• 55:50
  and
• 55:51
  they
• 55:51
  have
• 55:51
  books
• 55:52
  in
• 55:52
  the
• 55:52
  store.
• 55:52
  Why
• 55:52
  don't
• 55:53
  you
• 55:53
  reach
• 55:53
  out
• 55:54
  to
• 55:54
  the
• 55:54
  owner
• 55:54
  to
• 55:55
  see
• 55:55
  if
• 55:55
  he
• 55:55
  would
• 55:55
  be
• 55:55
  interested?
• 55:57
  And
• 55:57
  so
• 55:57
  again,
• 55:57
  so
• 55:57
  I
• 55:58
  reached
• 55:58
  out
• 55:58
  to
• 55:58
  him,
• 55:59
  he
• 55:59
  asked
• 55:59
  me
• 55:59
  to
• 56:00
  drop
• 56:00
  the
• 56:00
  book
• 56:01
  in.
• 56:01
  He
• 56:01
  really
• 56:01
  liked
• 56:02
  it.
• 56:02
  So
• 56:03
  he
• 56:03
  said,
• 56:03
  oh,
• 56:03
  we
• 56:03
  work
• 56:04
  on
• 56:04
  consignment
• 56:05
  and
• 56:05
  this
• 56:05
  is
• 56:05
  where
• 56:05
  I
• 56:05
  learned
• 56:06
  what
• 56:06
  this
• 56:06
  word
• 56:06
  meant.
• 56:07
  But
• 56:07
  we.
• 56:08
  So
• 56:08
  we'd
• 56:09
  found
• 56:09
  they
• 56:09
  bought
• 56:09
  the
• 56:09
  copies
• 56:10
  off
• 56:10
  of
• 56:10
  me,
• 56:11
  so
• 56:11
  I
• 56:11
  get
• 56:11
  the
• 56:12
  money.
• 56:12
  So
• 56:12
  it
• 56:12
  doesn't
• 56:13
  matter
• 56:13
  if
• 56:13
  they
• 56:13
  sell
• 56:13
  or
• 56:14
  don't
• 56:14
  sell,
• 56:14
  it's
• 56:15
  not
• 56:15
  on
• 56:15
  me
• 56:15
  anymore.
• 56:16
  Whereas
• 56:17
  with
• 56:17
  a
• 56:17
  consignment
• 56:18
  they
• 56:19
  say
• 56:19
  we
• 56:20
  will
• 56:20
  take
• 56:20
  so
• 56:20
  many
• 56:21
  books
• 56:21
  for
• 56:21
  our
• 56:22
  shelves
• 56:23
  and
• 56:23
  you
• 56:23
  will
• 56:23
  get
• 56:23
  the
• 56:23
  money
• 56:24
  once
• 56:24
  they
• 56:24
  sell.
• 56:25
  So
• 56:25
  obviously
• 56:26
  it's
• 56:26
  on
• 56:26
  me
• 56:27
  because
• 56:27
  I've
• 56:27
  now
• 56:28
  got
• 56:28
  four
• 56:28
  books
• 56:29
  on
• 56:29
  the
• 56:29
  shelf
• 56:30
  at
• 56:30
  two
• 56:30
  Pharmacy.
• 56:31
  So
• 56:31
  that's
• 56:32
  my
• 56:33
  money
• 56:33
  essentially
• 56:34
  sitting
• 56:34
  on
• 56:34
  the
• 56:34
  shelf
• 56:35
  until
• 56:35
  they
• 56:36
  sell
• 56:36
  and
• 56:36
  then
• 56:36
  two
• 56:37
  Pharmacy
• 56:37
  will
• 56:38
  pay
• 56:38
  me.
• 56:39
  So
• 56:39
  it's
• 56:40
  a
• 56:40
  different
• 56:40
  style
• 56:41
  and
• 56:41
  so
• 56:41
  it's
• 56:42
  interesting
• 56:42
  to
• 56:42
  try
• 56:42
  out
• 56:43
  both
• 56:43
  because.
• 56:43
  I
• 56:43
  think
• 56:45
  many,
• 56:45
  many
• 56:45
  of
• 56:45
  the
• 56:46
  independent
• 56:46
  bookstores,
• 56:47
  that's
• 56:47
  how
• 56:47
  they
• 56:47
  operate.
• 56:48
  Yeah,
• 56:48
  it's
• 56:49
  certainly.
• 56:49
  I've
• 56:49
  had
• 56:50
  a
• 56:50
  few
• 56:50
  more
• 56:50
  reach
• 56:51
  back
• 56:51
  out
• 56:52
  to
• 56:52
  me
• 56:53
  and
• 56:53
  that's
• 56:53
  how
• 56:53
  they
• 56:54
  work.
• 56:54
  So
• 56:55
  again,
• 56:55
  that
• 56:55
  gets
• 56:55
  back
• 56:56
  into
• 56:56
  the
• 56:56
  how
• 56:56
  many
• 56:56
  am
• 56:57
  I
• 56:57
  ordering
• 56:57
  off
• 56:57
  of
• 56:58
  Amazon?
• 56:58
  How
• 56:59
  much
• 56:59
  am
• 56:59
  I
• 57:00
  in
• 57:00
  pocket
• 57:01
  versus
• 57:02
  how
• 57:02
  much
• 57:02
  is
• 57:03
  going
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  be
• 57:03
  on
• 57:03
  the
• 57:03
  shelves?
• 57:03
  You
• 57:03
  end
• 57:04
  up
• 57:04
  doing
• 57:04
  a
• 57:04
  lot
• 57:04
  of
• 57:04
  math,
• 57:05
  which
• 57:06
  I
• 57:06
  hadn't
• 57:06
  expected
• 57:07
  to
• 57:07
  do.
• 57:07
  But
• 57:08
  yeah,
• 57:08
  he
• 57:08
  was
• 57:08
  really
• 57:08
  lovely.
• 57:09
  Reid
• 57:09
  who
• 57:10
  owns
• 57:10
  Two
• 57:10
  Pharmacy,
• 57:11
  he
• 57:11
  asked
• 57:12
  for
• 57:12
  four
• 57:13
  copies
• 57:13
  to
• 57:13
  go
• 57:13
  on
• 57:13
  the
• 57:14
  shelf
• 57:14
  and
• 57:14
  again,
• 57:14
  if
• 57:14
  it
• 57:15
  goes
• 57:15
  well,
• 57:15
  obviously
• 57:16
  there
• 57:16
  might
• 57:16
  be
• 57:17
  appetite
• 57:17
  for
• 57:17
  more,
• 57:18
  but
• 57:19
  that
• 57:19
  just.
• 57:19
  It's
• 57:19
  two
• 57:20
  very
• 57:20
  big
• 57:20
  names
• 57:21
  in
• 57:21
  town
• 57:21
  where
• 57:22
  people
• 57:22
  can
• 57:22
  find
• 57:23
  my
• 57:24
  book
• 57:24
  and
• 57:24
  it's
• 57:24
  just
• 57:25
  nice
• 57:25
  to
• 57:25
  go
• 57:25
  into
• 57:26
  a
• 57:26
  store
• 57:26
  and
• 57:26
  see
• 57:27
  it.
• 57:27
  So
• 57:28
  I
• 57:28
  want
• 57:28
  to
• 57:28
  Talk
• 57:28
  a
• 57:28
  little
• 57:28
  bit
• 57:29
  about
• 57:29
  character
• 57:29
  development.
• 57:30
  I
• 57:30
  know
• 57:31
  that
• 57:31
  you
• 57:31
  said
• 57:31
  that
• 57:32
  you
• 57:32
  named
• 57:32
  the
• 57:33
  galloping
• 57:33
  frog
• 57:34
  after
• 57:34
  your
• 57:35
  grandfather
• 57:35
  Jerry.
• 57:36
  Yeah.
• 57:37
  So
• 57:37
  that's
• 57:38
  very
• 57:38
  cool.
• 57:38
  And
• 57:38
  you
• 57:38
  also
• 57:39
  said
• 57:39
  that
• 57:39
  you
• 57:39
  went
• 57:40
  back
• 57:40
  to
• 57:40
  England
• 57:42
  to
• 57:43
  take
• 57:43
  the
• 57:44
  first
• 57:44
  copy
• 57:44
  to
• 57:44
  your
• 57:45
  grandmother,
• 57:47
  and
• 57:48
  did
• 57:48
  you
• 57:48
  reveal
• 57:49
  to
• 57:49
  her
• 57:50
  that
• 57:50
  you
• 57:50
  had
• 57:50
  actually
• 57:51
  named
• 57:51
  the
• 57:51
  galloping
• 57:52
  frog
• 57:53
  Jerry,
• 57:53
  or
• 57:54
  did
• 57:54
  she
• 57:55
  read
• 57:55
  the
• 57:55
  book
• 57:55
  and
• 57:56
  that's
• 57:56
  when
• 57:56
  she
• 57:56
  found
• 57:56
  out
• 57:57
  you
• 57:57
  had
• 57:57
  actually
• 57:57
  named
• 57:58
  it
• 57:58
  after
• 57:58
  your
• 57:59
  grandfather?
• 58:00
  That's
• 58:00
  when
• 58:00
  she
• 58:00
  found
• 58:00
  out
• 58:01
  was
• 58:01
  when
• 58:01
  I
• 58:01
  read
• 58:01
  it
• 58:02
  to
• 58:02
  her.
• 58:02
  Okay,
• 58:03
  so
• 58:04
  tell
• 58:04
  us
• 58:04
  your
• 58:04
  reaction.
• 58:06
  Oh,
• 58:06
  my
• 58:06
  goodness.
• 58:06
  And
• 58:07
  I'm
• 58:07
  sure
• 58:07
  she
• 58:07
  won't
• 58:07
  mind
• 58:07
  me
• 58:08
  saying,
• 58:08
  both
• 58:08
  me
• 58:08
  and
• 58:08
  my
• 58:08
  Nan,
• 58:09
  we
• 58:09
  don't
• 58:09
  cry.
• 58:10
  We're
• 58:11
  just.
• 58:11
  It
• 58:11
  takes
• 58:11
  a
• 58:12
  lot
• 58:12
  for
• 58:12
  us
• 58:12
  to
• 58:12
  cry.
• 58:13
  And
• 58:13
  I.
• 58:14
  As
• 58:15
  I
• 58:15
  sat
• 58:16
  next
• 58:16
  to
• 58:16
  her
• 58:16
  and
• 58:16
  I
• 58:16
  thought,
• 58:16
  I'm
• 58:17
  gonna
• 58:17
  read
• 58:17
  this
• 58:17
  book
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  her,
• 58:18
  and
• 58:18
  I
• 58:19
  could
• 58:19
  feel
• 58:20
  the
• 58:20
  tears
• 58:22
  appearing.
• 58:23
  And
• 58:23
  I'm
• 58:23
  thinking,
• 58:23
  I've
• 58:23
  gotta
• 58:24
  read
• 58:24
  this
• 58:24
  whole
• 58:24
  book.
• 58:25
  I've
• 58:25
  gotta
• 58:25
  keep
• 58:25
  this
• 58:26
  together.
• 58:27
  But
• 58:27
  it's
• 58:27
  because
• 58:28
  I
• 58:28
  knew
• 58:28
  it
• 58:28
  was
• 58:29
  Geri,
• 58:29
  and
• 58:29
  I
• 58:30
  knew,
• 58:30
  God,
• 58:30
  I'm
• 58:30
  gonna
• 58:30
  have
• 58:30
  to
• 58:31
  say
• 58:31
  that.
• 58:31
  And
• 58:32
  I.
• 58:32
  So
• 58:32
  I
• 58:32
  managed
• 58:33
  to
• 58:33
  keep
• 58:33
  it
• 58:33
  together.
• 58:34
  And
• 58:34
  my
• 58:34
  Nan,
• 58:35
  she's.
• 58:35
  I
• 58:35
  love
• 58:35
  her
• 58:35
  to
• 58:36
  pieces.
• 58:36
  She's
• 58:36
  my
• 58:37
  best
• 58:37
  friend.
• 58:38
  She.
• 58:39
  She
• 58:40
  just
• 58:40
  said
• 58:40
  the.
• 58:40
  I
• 58:40
  think
• 58:40
  she
• 58:41
  said,
• 58:41
  oh,
• 58:41
  isn't
• 58:41
  that
• 58:41
  lovely?
• 58:44
  Yes,
• 58:44
  yes,
• 58:45
  Nan,
• 58:45
  thank
• 58:45
  you.
• 58:46
  And
• 58:46
  she
• 58:47
  also
• 58:47
  made
• 58:47
  on
• 58:47
  me.
• 58:47
  Laughter
• 58:48
  she
• 58:48
  went,
• 58:48
  that's
• 58:48
  different
• 58:49
  to
• 58:49
  the
• 58:49
  first
• 58:50
  version
• 58:50
  you
• 58:51
  read
• 58:51
  to
• 58:51
  me,
• 58:52
  like,
• 58:52
  a
• 58:52
  year
• 58:52
  ago.
• 58:53
  And
• 58:53
  I
• 58:53
  said,
• 58:53
  oh,
• 58:54
  yeah,
• 58:54
  Uncle
• 58:55
  Martin,
• 58:55
  so
• 58:56
  that's
• 58:56
  her
• 58:56
  son.
• 58:58
  So
• 58:58
  he.
• 58:59
  We've
• 58:59
  worked
• 58:59
  on
• 58:59
  this
• 59:00
  together.
• 59:00
  And
• 59:00
  we
• 59:01
  changed
• 59:01
  the
• 59:01
  direction.
• 59:02
  And
• 59:02
  she
• 59:02
  went,
• 59:02
  oh,
• 59:02
  yeah,
• 59:02
  this
• 59:03
  is
• 59:03
  much
• 59:03
  better.
• 59:05
  And
• 59:05
  I
• 59:05
  was
• 59:05
  like,
• 59:05
  okay,
• 59:06
  I
• 59:06
  get
• 59:07
  dump
• 59:07
  of
• 59:07
  approval
• 59:08
  from
• 59:08
  that.
• 59:09
  But
• 59:09
  it
• 59:09
  was
• 59:09
  very
• 59:10
  special.
• 59:10
  And
• 59:11
  because
• 59:11
  she
• 59:11
  obviously,
• 59:12
  all
• 59:12
  the
• 59:12
  animals,
• 59:13
  she
• 59:13
  recognized.
• 59:14
  Daisy
• 59:15
  the
• 59:15
  terrapin
• 59:15
  is
• 59:16
  still
• 59:16
  in
• 59:16
  her
• 59:16
  garden
• 59:17
  now.
• 59:17
  Wow.
• 59:18
  So.
• 59:19
  And
• 59:19
  I
• 59:19
  tried
• 59:20
  desperately
• 59:21
  to
• 59:21
  take
• 59:21
  a
• 59:21
  photo
• 59:22
  of
• 59:22
  Daisy
• 59:22
  to
• 59:22
  put
• 59:22
  on
• 59:23
  Instagram,
• 59:23
  because
• 59:24
  how
• 59:24
  cool
• 59:25
  is
• 59:25
  that
• 59:25
  to
• 59:25
  have
• 59:26
  the
• 59:26
  cartoon
• 59:27
  and
• 59:27
  the
• 59:27
  real
• 59:28
  life
• 59:28
  animal
• 59:28
  there?
• 59:29
  Absolutely.
• 59:30
  Daisy
• 59:30
  kept
• 59:31
  hiding.
• 59:31
  So
• 59:31
  I
• 59:32
  couldn't
• 59:32
  take
• 59:32
  a
• 59:32
  photo
• 59:32
  of
• 59:32
  Daisy.
• 59:33
  But
• 59:34
  every
• 59:34
  animal,
• 59:35
  my
• 59:35
  nan
• 59:35
  was
• 59:36
  going,
• 59:36
  oh,
• 59:36
  because
• 59:36
  she
• 59:36
  loved
• 59:37
  Buster.
• 59:37
  She's.
• 59:38
  Oh,
• 59:38
  this
• 59:38
  is
• 59:38
  great.
• 59:39
  Yes,
• 59:39
  it
• 59:39
  was
• 59:40
  very
• 59:40
  special.
• 59:41
  And
• 59:41
  then
• 59:41
  to
• 59:41
  leave
• 59:41
  a
• 59:42
  copy
• 59:42
  with
• 59:42
  her,
• 59:43
  which
• 59:43
  is
• 59:44
  really
• 59:44
  nice.
• 59:45
  That's
• 59:45
  terrific.
• 59:46
  That's
• 59:46
  terrific.
• 59:47
  Let's
• 59:47
  just
• 59:47
  talk
• 59:48
  a
• 59:48
  little
• 59:48
  bit
• 59:48
  more
• 59:48
  about
• 59:49
  the
• 59:49
  theme
• 59:50
  of
• 59:50
  your
• 59:50
  book.
• 59:51
  And
• 59:52
  is
• 59:52
  it
• 59:52
  an
• 59:53
  extension
• 59:53
  from
• 59:54
  your
• 59:54
  own
• 59:54
  life?
• 59:56
  I.
• 59:57
  Do
• 59:57
  you
• 59:57
  know
• 59:57
  what?
• 59:57
  I
• 59:58
  don't.
• 59:58
  I've
• 59:58
  questioned
• 59:59
  myself
• 59:59
  on
• 59:59
  this.
• 1:00:01
  I
• 1:00:01
  think
• 1:00:03
  there
• 1:00:03
  were
• 1:00:03
  so
• 1:00:03
  many
• 1:00:04
  lessons
• 1:00:05
  that
• 1:00:05
  you
• 1:00:05
  learned
• 1:00:05
  from
• 1:00:05
  school
• 1:00:07
  and
• 1:00:07
  even
• 1:00:07
  the
• 1:00:07
  workplace.
• 1:00:08
  Even
• 1:00:09
  now,
• 1:00:10
  you
• 1:00:10
  might
• 1:00:10
  have
• 1:00:10
  someone
• 1:00:11
  say
• 1:00:11
  to
• 1:00:11
  you,
• 1:00:11
  oh,
• 1:00:11
  that
• 1:00:11
  person,
• 1:00:12
  they
• 1:00:13
  might
• 1:00:13
  be
• 1:00:13
  like
• 1:00:13
  this
• 1:00:14
  and
• 1:00:15
  you
• 1:00:15
  think
• 1:00:15
  that's
• 1:00:15
  your
• 1:00:16
  opinion.
• 1:00:17
  Right.
• 1:00:18
  But
• 1:00:18
  everyone
• 1:00:18
  is
• 1:00:19
  different,
• 1:00:19
  everyone
• 1:00:20
  gels
• 1:00:21
  with
• 1:00:21
  different
• 1:00:21
  people.
• 1:00:22
  Everyone
• 1:00:23
  has
• 1:00:23
  different
• 1:00:24
  communication
• 1:00:25
  styles.
• 1:00:25
  So
• 1:00:26
  someone
• 1:00:26
  that
• 1:00:27
  you
• 1:00:27
  might
• 1:00:28
  not
• 1:00:28
  get
• 1:00:29
  on
• 1:00:29
  with
• 1:00:29
  necessarily
• 1:00:30
  doesn't
• 1:00:30
  mean
• 1:00:31
  that
• 1:00:31
  I
• 1:00:31
  might
• 1:00:31
  not
• 1:00:31
  get
• 1:00:32
  on
• 1:00:32
  with
• 1:00:32
  them.
• 1:00:34
  So
• 1:00:34
  I
• 1:00:34
  think
• 1:00:34
  it's
• 1:00:35
  just
• 1:00:35
  something
• 1:00:35
  that
• 1:00:35
  I
• 1:00:36
  have
• 1:00:36
  noticed.
• 1:00:37
  As
• 1:00:37
  I
• 1:00:37
  say,
• 1:00:37
  I
• 1:00:37
  work
• 1:00:38
  in
• 1:00:38
  communications
• 1:00:39
  so
• 1:00:40
  it's
• 1:00:40
  something
• 1:00:40
  that
• 1:00:40
  maybe
• 1:00:40
  I'm
• 1:00:41
  just
• 1:00:41
  more
• 1:00:41
  attuned
• 1:00:41
  to
• 1:00:42
  that
• 1:00:44
  people
• 1:00:44
  can
• 1:00:45
  very
• 1:00:45
  quickly
• 1:00:48
  follow
• 1:00:48
  other
• 1:00:48
  people.
• 1:00:49
  And
• 1:00:50
  I
• 1:00:50
  don't
• 1:00:51
  know
• 1:00:51
  if
• 1:00:51
  you've
• 1:00:51
  ever
• 1:00:51
  seen
• 1:00:52
  Traitors,
• 1:00:52
  the
• 1:00:53
  reality
• 1:00:54
  TV
• 1:00:54
  show.
• 1:00:54
  You
• 1:00:54
  know
• 1:00:55
  what,
• 1:00:55
  I'm
• 1:00:56
  not
• 1:00:56
  a
• 1:00:56
  big
• 1:00:56
  reality.
• 1:00:57
  No,
• 1:00:58
  neither
• 1:00:58
  am
• 1:00:58
  I
• 1:00:58
  but
• 1:00:59
  my
• 1:00:59
  mum
• 1:01:00
  badgered
• 1:01:00
  me
• 1:01:01
  to
• 1:01:01
  watch
• 1:01:01
  this
• 1:01:01
  show
• 1:01:02
  and
• 1:01:03
  it
• 1:01:03
  basically
• 1:01:04
  has
• 1:01:04
  this
• 1:01:05
  sort
• 1:01:06
  of
• 1:01:06
  crowd
• 1:01:07
  thinking
• 1:01:08
  in
• 1:01:08
  mind
• 1:01:08
  that
• 1:01:09
  someone's
• 1:01:09
  decided,
• 1:01:10
  oh,
• 1:01:10
  this
• 1:01:10
  person,
• 1:01:11
  they
• 1:01:12
  must
• 1:01:12
  be
• 1:01:12
  the
• 1:01:12
  traitor.
• 1:01:13
  And
• 1:01:13
  everyone
• 1:01:13
  jumps
• 1:01:14
  on
• 1:01:14
  a
• 1:01:14
  bandwagon
• 1:01:15
  because
• 1:01:15
  everyone
• 1:01:16
  wants
• 1:01:16
  to
• 1:01:16
  follow
• 1:01:17
  what
• 1:01:17
  this
• 1:01:18
  other
• 1:01:18
  person
• 1:01:18
  says.
• 1:01:19
  And
• 1:01:20
  I
• 1:01:20
  don't
• 1:01:20
  know,
• 1:01:20
  I
• 1:01:20
  just
• 1:01:21
  think
• 1:01:21
  it
• 1:01:21
  was
• 1:01:22
  something
• 1:01:23
  I
• 1:01:23
  keep
• 1:01:23
  seeing
• 1:01:25
  whether
• 1:01:25
  social
• 1:01:26
  media
• 1:01:26
  also
• 1:01:26
  plays
• 1:01:27
  a
• 1:01:27
  part.
• 1:01:27
  You
• 1:01:27
  see
• 1:01:27
  a
• 1:01:27
  lot
• 1:01:27
  of
• 1:01:28
  negativity,
• 1:01:29
  a
• 1:01:29
  lot
• 1:01:29
  of
• 1:01:29
  opinions
• 1:01:30
  being
• 1:01:30
  thrown
• 1:01:30
  backwards
• 1:01:31
  and
• 1:01:31
  forwards
• 1:01:32
  and
• 1:01:33
  so
• 1:01:33
  maybe
• 1:01:33
  subconsciously
• 1:01:34
  there
• 1:01:34
  was
• 1:01:34
  something
• 1:01:34
  there
• 1:01:35
  of
• 1:01:35
  why
• 1:01:36
  don't
• 1:01:36
  you
• 1:01:36
  just
• 1:01:37
  go
• 1:01:37
  and
• 1:01:37
  find
• 1:01:37
  out
• 1:01:38
  yourself?
• 1:01:38
  And
• 1:01:39
  I
• 1:01:39
  love
• 1:01:40
  stay
• 1:01:40
  open
• 1:01:40
  minded
• 1:01:41
  and
• 1:01:43
  not
• 1:01:43
  judge.
• 1:01:44
  Be
• 1:01:44
  curious
• 1:01:46
  but
• 1:01:46
  not
• 1:01:46
  judge.
• 1:01:47
  And
• 1:01:48
  yeah,
• 1:01:49
  I
• 1:01:49
  have
• 1:01:49
  a
• 1:01:50
  feeling
• 1:01:50
  if
• 1:01:50
  I
• 1:01:50
  was
• 1:01:50
  to
• 1:01:51
  really
• 1:01:51
  sit
• 1:01:51
  and
• 1:01:51
  think
• 1:01:51
  about
• 1:01:52
  it,
• 1:01:52
  there
• 1:01:52
  is
• 1:01:52
  something
• 1:01:53
  much
• 1:01:53
  deeper
• 1:01:54
  there.
• 1:01:55
  But
• 1:01:55
  it
• 1:01:55
  is
• 1:01:55
  something
• 1:01:56
  that
• 1:01:56
  I
• 1:01:56
  think
• 1:01:56
  we
• 1:01:56
  see
• 1:01:56
  a
• 1:01:57
  lot
• 1:01:57
  in
• 1:01:57
  the
• 1:01:57
  world
• 1:01:57
  that's
• 1:01:57
  very
• 1:01:58
  sad
• 1:01:58
  at
• 1:01:58
  the
• 1:01:58
  moment
• 1:01:59
  and
• 1:01:59
  hopefully
• 1:02:00
  this
• 1:02:00
  is
• 1:02:01
  a
• 1:02:01
  nice
• 1:02:01
  little
• 1:02:02
  story
• 1:02:03
  to
• 1:02:03
  remind
• 1:02:03
  children
• 1:02:04
  that
• 1:02:05
  people
• 1:02:05
  are
• 1:02:05
  different
• 1:02:06
  and
• 1:02:06
  that's
• 1:02:06
  okay.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah,
• 1:02:07
  absolutely.
• 1:02:08
  I
• 1:02:08
  couldn't
• 1:02:08
  agree
• 1:02:08
  with
• 1:02:08
  you
• 1:02:09
  more.
• 1:02:10
  So
• 1:02:12
  your
• 1:02:12
  writing
• 1:02:12
  process,
• 1:02:14
  you've
• 1:02:14
  really
• 1:02:14
  shared
• 1:02:15
  quite
• 1:02:15
  a
• 1:02:15
  bit
• 1:02:15
  about
• 1:02:16
  your
• 1:02:16
  writing
• 1:02:16
  process
• 1:02:17
  because.
• 1:02:18
  No,
• 1:02:18
  but
• 1:02:18
  it's
• 1:02:19
  so
• 1:02:19
  true
• 1:02:19
  because
• 1:02:19
  you,
• 1:02:20
  it's
• 1:02:21
  how
• 1:02:21
  it
• 1:02:21
  all
• 1:02:23
  unfolded
• 1:02:24
  for
• 1:02:24
  you
• 1:02:24
  and
• 1:02:24
  your
• 1:02:25
  journey
• 1:02:25
  and
• 1:02:26
  then
• 1:02:26
  your
• 1:02:26
  contact
• 1:02:26
  with
• 1:02:27
  your
• 1:02:27
  uncle
• 1:02:28
  and
• 1:02:28
  having
• 1:02:28
  him
• 1:02:28
  as
• 1:02:29
  a
• 1:02:29
  resource
• 1:02:29
  and
• 1:02:30
  at
• 1:02:30
  the
• 1:02:30
  time
• 1:02:31
  when
• 1:02:31
  you
• 1:02:31
  first
• 1:02:31
  started
• 1:02:32
  out
• 1:02:33
  he
• 1:02:33
  was
• 1:02:33
  a
• 1:02:33
  little
• 1:02:33
  busier.
• 1:02:34
  You
• 1:02:34
  didn't
• 1:02:34
  get
• 1:02:35
  the
• 1:02:35
  same
• 1:02:36
  TLC
• 1:02:37
  or
• 1:02:38
  Loving
• 1:02:39
  Care
• 1:02:39
  as
• 1:02:39
  the
• 1:02:40
  as
• 1:02:40
  you
• 1:02:40
  went
• 1:02:41
  along
• 1:02:41
  and
• 1:02:42
  then
• 1:02:42
  to
• 1:02:42
  get
• 1:02:43
  the
• 1:02:43
  recommendation.
• 1:02:44
  So
• 1:02:45
  tell
• 1:02:45
  us
• 1:02:46
  about
• 1:02:46
  if
• 1:02:47
  you
• 1:02:47
  going
• 1:02:47
  to
• 1:02:48
  write
• 1:02:48
  a
• 1:02:48
  second
• 1:02:48
  book,
• 1:02:50
  what
• 1:02:51
  would
• 1:02:51
  your
• 1:02:51
  writing
• 1:02:52
  process
• 1:02:52
  look
• 1:02:53
  like
• 1:02:53
  versus
• 1:02:54
  what
• 1:02:54
  you
• 1:02:54
  just
• 1:02:54
  went
• 1:02:55
  through?
• 1:02:56
  Oh
• 1:02:56
  my
• 1:02:56
  goodness,
• 1:02:58
  I'd
• 1:02:59
  definitely
• 1:02:59
  be
• 1:02:59
  finding
• 1:03:00
  my
• 1:03:00
  uncle,
• 1:03:01
  that's
• 1:03:02
  for
• 1:03:02
  sure.
• 1:03:03
  Do
• 1:03:03
  you
• 1:03:03
  know
• 1:03:03
  what?
• 1:03:03
  I
• 1:03:03
  don't
• 1:03:04
  think
• 1:03:04
  I'd
• 1:03:04
  do
• 1:03:04
  much
• 1:03:04
  different.
• 1:03:05
  So
• 1:03:05
  I
• 1:03:06
  have,
• 1:03:06
  when
• 1:03:06
  I
• 1:03:07
  was
• 1:03:07
  reaching
• 1:03:08
  out
• 1:03:08
  to
• 1:03:08
  agencies,
• 1:03:10
  a
• 1:03:10
  lot
• 1:03:10
  of
• 1:03:10
  them
• 1:03:11
  wanted
• 1:03:11
  to
• 1:03:11
  know
• 1:03:11
  if
• 1:03:12
  you
• 1:03:12
  were
• 1:03:12
  planning
• 1:03:12
  second,
• 1:03:13
  third,
• 1:03:13
  fourth
• 1:03:14
  books
• 1:03:15
  and
• 1:03:15
  one
• 1:03:16
  of
• 1:03:16
  them
• 1:03:16
  like
• 1:03:16
  you
• 1:03:16
  have
• 1:03:16
  to
• 1:03:17
  give
• 1:03:18
  Your
• 1:03:18
  synopsis
• 1:03:19
  of
• 1:03:20
  these
• 1:03:20
  books.
• 1:03:21
  You
• 1:03:21
  couldn't
• 1:03:22
  just
• 1:03:22
  submit
• 1:03:22
  one
• 1:03:23
  book.
• 1:03:23
  They
• 1:03:23
  wanted
• 1:03:23
  to
• 1:03:24
  know
• 1:03:24
  that
• 1:03:24
  you
• 1:03:24
  were
• 1:03:24
  gonna
• 1:03:24
  write
• 1:03:25
  more
• 1:03:25
  children's
• 1:03:25
  books.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  So
• 1:03:27
  I
• 1:03:27
  had
• 1:03:27
  to
• 1:03:27
  think
• 1:03:27
  about
• 1:03:27
  it
• 1:03:28
  on
• 1:03:28
  the
• 1:03:28
  spot.
• 1:03:29
  And
• 1:03:29
  I
• 1:03:29
  did
• 1:03:30
  think
• 1:03:30
  of
• 1:03:30
  another
• 1:03:31
  book
• 1:03:31
  based
• 1:03:32
  on
• 1:03:32
  my
• 1:03:32
  dog,
• 1:03:33
  who
• 1:03:34
  he
• 1:03:34
  is
• 1:03:35
  the
• 1:03:36
  boy
• 1:03:36
  of
• 1:03:37
  my
• 1:03:37
  life,
• 1:03:37
  but
• 1:03:38
  he
• 1:03:38
  is
• 1:03:38
  grumpy
• 1:03:39
  and
• 1:03:40
  misunderstood.
• 1:03:41
  And
• 1:03:41
  I
• 1:03:41
  saw
• 1:03:41
  there
• 1:03:41
  is
• 1:03:41
  definitely
• 1:03:42
  a
• 1:03:42
  moral
• 1:03:42
  of
• 1:03:43
  the
• 1:03:43
  story
• 1:03:43
  here.
• 1:03:44
  So
• 1:03:45
  I've
• 1:03:45
  got
• 1:03:45
  an
• 1:03:46
  idea.
• 1:03:47
  But
• 1:03:48
  I
• 1:03:48
  love
• 1:03:48
  rhyming.
• 1:03:49
  I
• 1:03:49
  always
• 1:03:50
  have
• 1:03:50
  done.
• 1:03:50
  When
• 1:03:51
  I
• 1:03:51
  was
• 1:03:51
  a
• 1:03:51
  kid,
• 1:03:51
  I'd
• 1:03:52
  write
• 1:03:52
  poems.
• 1:03:53
  There's
• 1:03:53
  something
• 1:03:54
  about
• 1:03:54
  it
• 1:03:56
  and
• 1:03:56
  I
• 1:03:56
  get.
• 1:03:56
  Because
• 1:03:57
  in
• 1:03:57
  my
• 1:03:57
  communications
• 1:03:58
  role,
• 1:03:58
  you
• 1:03:58
  don't
• 1:03:59
  get
• 1:03:59
  to
• 1:03:59
  play
• 1:03:59
  around
• 1:03:59
  with
• 1:03:59
  adjectives
• 1:04:00
  that
• 1:04:00
  much.
• 1:04:01
  In
• 1:04:02
  corporate,
• 1:04:04
  business
• 1:04:04
  style
• 1:04:04
  communication,
• 1:04:06
  people
• 1:04:06
  don't
• 1:04:07
  have
• 1:04:07
  time.
• 1:04:07
  You
• 1:04:08
  just
• 1:04:08
  gotta
• 1:04:08
  get
• 1:04:08
  to
• 1:04:08
  the
• 1:04:08
  point,
• 1:04:09
  keep
• 1:04:09
  it
• 1:04:09
  short,
• 1:04:09
  keep
• 1:04:10
  it
• 1:04:10
  sweet.
• 1:04:10
  Less
• 1:04:10
  is
• 1:04:11
  more,
• 1:04:12
  let
• 1:04:12
  people
• 1:04:12
  skim.
• 1:04:13
  So
• 1:04:13
  to
• 1:04:14
  play
• 1:04:14
  around
• 1:04:14
  with
• 1:04:14
  descriptive
• 1:04:15
  words
• 1:04:16
  was
• 1:04:16
  so
• 1:04:17
  much
• 1:04:17
  fun.
• 1:04:18
  And
• 1:04:18
  I
• 1:04:19
  love
• 1:04:19
  the
• 1:04:19
  challenge
• 1:04:20
  of
• 1:04:20
  getting
• 1:04:21
  descriptive
• 1:04:21
  words
• 1:04:22
  to
• 1:04:22
  match
• 1:04:22
  in
• 1:04:23
  rhyme.
• 1:04:24
  I
• 1:04:24
  just
• 1:04:24
  listen.
• 1:04:24
  I
• 1:04:24
  just.
• 1:04:25
  I've
• 1:04:25
  always
• 1:04:25
  loved
• 1:04:26
  it.
• 1:04:26
  And
• 1:04:26
  when
• 1:04:27
  it
• 1:04:27
  works
• 1:04:27
  and
• 1:04:27
  you
• 1:04:27
  go,
• 1:04:28
  yes,
• 1:04:28
  that's
• 1:04:28
  really
• 1:04:29
  clever.
• 1:04:30
  Yay.
• 1:04:31
  I
• 1:04:31
  would
• 1:04:31
  still
• 1:04:32
  do
• 1:04:32
  rhyming
• 1:04:32
  and
• 1:04:33
  I
• 1:04:33
  would
• 1:04:34
  sit
• 1:04:34
  and
• 1:04:35
  play
• 1:04:35
  with
• 1:04:35
  the
• 1:04:35
  story
• 1:04:35
  for
• 1:04:36
  a
• 1:04:36
  bit.
• 1:04:38
  And
• 1:04:38
  I
• 1:04:38
  think
• 1:04:39
  with
• 1:04:39
  the
• 1:04:39
  galloping,
• 1:04:39
  it
• 1:04:40
  just
• 1:04:40
  came
• 1:04:40
  as
• 1:04:40
  I
• 1:04:41
  went.
• 1:04:42
  I
• 1:04:42
  know
• 1:04:42
  some
• 1:04:43
  people
• 1:04:43
  will
• 1:04:43
  sit
• 1:04:43
  and
• 1:04:43
  they'll
• 1:04:43
  write
• 1:04:44
  the
• 1:04:44
  beginning,
• 1:04:45
  middle
• 1:04:45
  and
• 1:04:45
  end.
• 1:04:46
  I
• 1:04:46
  didn't
• 1:04:46
  do
• 1:04:46
  that.
• 1:04:47
  I
• 1:04:47
  was
• 1:04:47
  gonna
• 1:04:48
  do
• 1:04:48
  a
• 1:04:48
  creative
• 1:04:48
  writing
• 1:04:49
  course.
• 1:04:49
  I
• 1:04:49
  didn't
• 1:04:49
  do
• 1:04:49
  that
• 1:04:50
  either.
• 1:04:50
  I
• 1:04:50
  thought,
• 1:04:50
  no,
• 1:04:50
  just,
• 1:04:51
  you
• 1:04:51
  know
• 1:04:51
  what
• 1:04:51
  you
• 1:04:51
  wanna
• 1:04:52
  do,
• 1:04:52
  so
• 1:04:52
  just
• 1:04:53
  play
• 1:04:53
  around
• 1:04:53
  with
• 1:04:53
  it.
• 1:04:53
  And
• 1:04:54
  I
• 1:04:54
  think
• 1:04:54
  I'd
• 1:04:54
  do
• 1:04:54
  the
• 1:04:54
  same.
• 1:04:56
  I
• 1:04:56
  would
• 1:04:56
  play
• 1:04:56
  around
• 1:04:56
  with
• 1:04:57
  what
• 1:04:57
  words
• 1:04:58
  resonate
• 1:04:58
  with
• 1:04:59
  my
• 1:04:59
  dog,
• 1:05:00
  what
• 1:05:01
  rough
• 1:05:01
  story
• 1:05:02
  do
• 1:05:02
  I
• 1:05:02
  want?
• 1:05:02
  And
• 1:05:03
  then
• 1:05:03
  how
• 1:05:03
  do
• 1:05:03
  you
• 1:05:03
  turn
• 1:05:03
  that
• 1:05:04
  into
• 1:05:04
  this,
• 1:05:05
  like,
• 1:05:05
  melody
• 1:05:07
  almost?
• 1:05:07
  Yes.
• 1:05:09
  Then
• 1:05:09
  go
• 1:05:09
  to
• 1:05:09
  my
• 1:05:09
  uncle
• 1:05:10
  and
• 1:05:10
  go,
• 1:05:10
  what
• 1:05:11
  constructive
• 1:05:12
  criticism
• 1:05:13
  would
• 1:05:13
  you
• 1:05:14
  give
• 1:05:14
  even
• 1:05:14
  if
• 1:05:14
  he
• 1:05:15
  didn't
• 1:05:15
  illustrate
• 1:05:15
  it?
• 1:05:16
  Because
• 1:05:16
  that
• 1:05:16
  was
• 1:05:16
  a
• 1:05:16
  big
• 1:05:16
  ask
• 1:05:17
  that
• 1:05:17
  he
• 1:05:17
  did
• 1:05:18
  out
• 1:05:18
  the
• 1:05:18
  kindness
• 1:05:18
  of
• 1:05:18
  his
• 1:05:18
  heart,
• 1:05:19
  which
• 1:05:20
  I
• 1:05:20
  am
• 1:05:20
  very
• 1:05:20
  grateful
• 1:05:21
  and
• 1:05:21
  privileged
• 1:05:21
  for.
• 1:05:22
  It's
• 1:05:22
  great
• 1:05:23
  having
• 1:05:23
  people
• 1:05:23
  around
• 1:05:24
  you
• 1:05:24
  who
• 1:05:24
  give
• 1:05:24
  you
• 1:05:26
  what
• 1:05:26
  you
• 1:05:26
  want
• 1:05:26
  to
• 1:05:26
  hear
• 1:05:27
  and
• 1:05:27
  all
• 1:05:28
  the
• 1:05:28
  nice
• 1:05:28
  compliments.
• 1:05:29
  But
• 1:05:30
  I
• 1:05:31
  needed
• 1:05:32
  someone
• 1:05:32
  like
• 1:05:32
  him
• 1:05:32
  to
• 1:05:33
  go,
• 1:05:33
  it's
• 1:05:33
  nice,
• 1:05:33
  but
• 1:05:34
  you
• 1:05:34
  could
• 1:05:34
  do
• 1:05:34
  better
• 1:05:35
  in
• 1:05:36
  a
• 1:05:36
  really
• 1:05:36
  friendly
• 1:05:36
  way.
• 1:05:37
  You
• 1:05:38
  need
• 1:05:38
  someone
• 1:05:38
  to
• 1:05:39
  be
• 1:05:39
  pushing
• 1:05:39
  that
• 1:05:40
  creativity.
• 1:05:41
  And
• 1:05:41
  one
• 1:05:41
  thing
• 1:05:41
  I
• 1:05:41
  want
• 1:05:42
  to
• 1:05:42
  say,
• 1:05:42
  especially
• 1:05:43
  if
• 1:05:43
  you're
• 1:05:43
  an
• 1:05:44
  independent
• 1:05:45
  children's
• 1:05:45
  book
• 1:05:45
  author,
• 1:05:47
  what
• 1:05:47
  I
• 1:05:48
  noticed
• 1:05:48
  is
• 1:05:49
  when
• 1:05:49
  you
• 1:05:49
  get
• 1:05:50
  constructive
• 1:05:50
  criticism
• 1:05:51
  and
• 1:05:51
  some
• 1:05:51
  of
• 1:05:52
  that
• 1:05:52
  comes
• 1:05:52
  through
• 1:05:53
  the
• 1:05:54
  Amazon
• 1:05:54
  reviews
• 1:05:55
  or
• 1:05:56
  book
• 1:05:56
  reviews,
• 1:05:57
  and
• 1:05:58
  as
• 1:05:58
  long
• 1:05:58
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• 1:05:59
  you
• 1:05:59
  don't
• 1:05:59
  take
• 1:05:59
  it
• 1:05:59
  personal
• 1:06:00
  and
• 1:06:00
  it's
• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:01
  help,
• 1:06:02
  it's
• 1:06:02
  quite
• 1:06:03
  interesting.
• 1:06:04
  So
• 1:06:05
  when
• 1:06:05
  you
• 1:06:05
  do
• 1:06:06
  an
• 1:06:06
  indie
• 1:06:07
  published
• 1:06:07
  book,
• 1:06:08
  you
• 1:06:08
  can
• 1:06:09
  actually
• 1:06:09
  modify
• 1:06:12
  maybe
• 1:06:12
  not
• 1:06:12
  the
• 1:06:13
  illustrations,
• 1:06:13
  because
• 1:06:14
  that
• 1:06:14
  comes
• 1:06:14
  at
• 1:06:15
  a
• 1:06:15
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• 1:06:15
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• 1:06:16
  But
• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:17
  words,
• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:18
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• 1:06:18
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• 1:06:18
  have
• 1:06:18
  too
• 1:06:18
  many
• 1:06:19
  words
• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:19
  the
• 1:06:19
  words
• 1:06:20
  aren't
• 1:06:20
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• 1:06:20
  right
• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:21
  and
• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:21
  getting
• 1:06:22
  that
• 1:06:22
  feedback,
• 1:06:23
  you
• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:24
  go
• 1:06:24
  and
• 1:06:25
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• 1:06:25
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• 1:06:26
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:27
  words
• 1:06:27
  or
• 1:06:28
  take
• 1:06:28
  out
• 1:06:28
  words
• 1:06:29
  or
• 1:06:29
  whatever
• 1:06:29
  it
• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:30
  to
• 1:06:30
  be.
• 1:06:31
  And
• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:34
  it's
• 1:06:35
  moving
• 1:06:35
  the
• 1:06:35
  book
• 1:06:36
  closer
• 1:06:37
  to
• 1:06:38
  gets
• 1:06:39
  it
• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:39
  be
• 1:06:39
  better,
• 1:06:40
  then
• 1:06:41
  why
• 1:06:41
  not
• 1:06:41
  do
• 1:06:41
  that?
• 1:06:41
  I
• 1:06:42
  just
• 1:06:42
  want
• 1:06:42
  to
• 1:06:43
  people
• 1:06:43
  to
• 1:06:43
  realize
• 1:06:43
  that
• 1:06:44
  as
• 1:06:44
  an
• 1:06:44
  independent
• 1:06:45
  children's
• 1:06:45
  book
• 1:06:45
  author,
• 1:06:47
  you're
• 1:06:47
  not,
• 1:06:47
  the
• 1:06:48
  book
• 1:06:48
  is
• 1:06:48
  not.
• 1:06:49
  And
• 1:06:49
  the
• 1:06:49
  words
• 1:06:49
  are
• 1:06:50
  not
• 1:06:50
  set
• 1:06:50
  in
• 1:06:50
  stone.
• 1:06:51
  Oh,
• 1:06:52
  no.
• 1:06:52
  And
• 1:06:53
  so
• 1:06:53
  there's
• 1:06:54
  two
• 1:06:54
  things
• 1:06:54
  I
• 1:06:54
  could
• 1:06:54
  share
• 1:06:55
  for
• 1:06:55
  that
• 1:06:55
  One,
• 1:06:55
  I
• 1:06:55
  started
• 1:06:56
  just
• 1:06:56
  on
• 1:06:56
  a
• 1:06:56
  Word
• 1:06:56
  document
• 1:06:58
  and
• 1:06:58
  that's
• 1:06:59
  what
• 1:06:59
  me
• 1:06:59
  and
• 1:06:59
  my
• 1:06:59
  uncle
• 1:06:59
  were
• 1:07:00
  emailing
• 1:07:00
  backwards
• 1:07:00
  and
• 1:07:01
  forwards.
• 1:07:02
  And
• 1:07:02
  then
• 1:07:03
  I
• 1:07:03
  started
• 1:07:03
  sending
• 1:07:04
  voice
• 1:07:04
  notes
• 1:07:05
  to
• 1:07:05
  my
• 1:07:05
  friends
• 1:07:06
  because
• 1:07:06
  I
• 1:07:06
  thought
• 1:07:06
  if
• 1:07:07
  I'm
• 1:07:07
  saying
• 1:07:07
  out
• 1:07:07
  loud,
• 1:07:08
  I'm
• 1:07:08
  going
• 1:07:08
  to
• 1:07:09
  hear
• 1:07:10
  if
• 1:07:10
  the
• 1:07:10
  sentence
• 1:07:11
  structure
• 1:07:11
  is
• 1:07:11
  clunky.
• 1:07:12
  So
• 1:07:13
  that's
• 1:07:14
  really
• 1:07:14
  helpful.
• 1:07:15
  I
• 1:07:15
  will
• 1:07:16
  say.
• 1:07:16
  When
• 1:07:17
  I
• 1:07:17
  first
• 1:07:17
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• 1:07:18
  feedback
• 1:07:19
  from
• 1:07:19
  my
• 1:07:19
  uncle,
• 1:07:19
  because
• 1:07:20
  of
• 1:07:20
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• 1:07:20
  time
• 1:07:20
  zone
• 1:07:20
  difference,
• 1:07:22
  I
• 1:07:22
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• 1:07:22
  up
• 1:07:23
  to
• 1:07:23
  an
• 1:07:23
  email
• 1:07:24
  with,
• 1:07:25
  you
• 1:07:25
  could
• 1:07:25
  do
• 1:07:26
  better
• 1:07:26
  in
• 1:07:26
  nicer
• 1:07:27
  words.
• 1:07:28
  And
• 1:07:28
  it's
• 1:07:28
  6am
• 1:07:29
  here,
• 1:07:30
  I'm
• 1:07:30
  still
• 1:07:30
  waking
• 1:07:31
  up.
• 1:07:31
  That
• 1:07:32
  is
• 1:07:32
  not
• 1:07:32
  the
• 1:07:33
  time
• 1:07:33
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• 1:07:33
  be
• 1:07:33
  reading
• 1:07:34
  something
• 1:07:34
  that
• 1:07:35
  you
• 1:07:36
  are
• 1:07:36
  so
• 1:07:36
  emotionally
• 1:07:37
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• 1:07:38
  to.
• 1:07:38
  And
• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:40
  I
• 1:07:41
  was
• 1:07:41
  sensible
• 1:07:42
  enough
• 1:07:42
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• 1:07:44
  not
• 1:07:44
  respond
• 1:07:45
  straight
• 1:07:46
  away
• 1:07:46
  and
• 1:07:47
  wait
• 1:07:47
  until
• 1:07:48
  I've
• 1:07:48
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• 1:07:48
  up,
• 1:07:48
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• 1:07:49
  my
• 1:07:49
  first
• 1:07:49
  cup
• 1:07:49
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• 1:07:50
  tea,
• 1:07:50
  reread
• 1:07:51
  it
• 1:07:51
  again
• 1:07:52
  with
• 1:07:52
  the
• 1:07:53
  intent
• 1:07:54
  that
• 1:07:55
  he
• 1:07:55
  would
• 1:07:55
  have
• 1:07:56
  sent
• 1:07:56
  it
• 1:07:56
  with,
• 1:07:57
  with
• 1:07:57
  all
• 1:07:58
  the
• 1:07:58
  good
• 1:07:58
  intentions
• 1:07:58
  and
• 1:07:59
  just
• 1:07:59
  read
• 1:07:59
  it
• 1:07:59
  and
• 1:07:59
  go,
• 1:07:59
  do
• 1:08:00
  you
• 1:08:00
  know
• 1:08:00
  what?
• 1:08:00
  He's
• 1:08:01
  right.
• 1:08:02
  And
• 1:08:03
  if
• 1:08:03
  he's
• 1:08:03
  saying
• 1:08:04
  this,
• 1:08:05
  other
• 1:08:06
  people
• 1:08:06
  will
• 1:08:06
  think
• 1:08:06
  this
• 1:08:08
  and
• 1:08:08
  I'm
• 1:08:08
  too
• 1:08:08
  close
• 1:08:09
  to
• 1:08:09
  it.
• 1:08:09
  This
• 1:08:10
  is
• 1:08:10
  what
• 1:08:10
  I
• 1:08:10
  do
• 1:08:10
  day
• 1:08:10
  in,
• 1:08:11
  day
• 1:08:11
  out
• 1:08:11
  with
• 1:08:11
  other
• 1:08:11
  people's
• 1:08:12
  communications
• 1:08:12
  is
• 1:08:13
  there's
• 1:08:13
  nothing
• 1:08:14
  to
• 1:08:14
  your
• 1:08:14
  point,
• 1:08:14
  there's
• 1:08:15
  nothing
• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:16
  I'm
• 1:08:16
  just
• 1:08:16
  saying
• 1:08:17
  that
• 1:08:17
  this
• 1:08:17
  is
• 1:08:17
  how
• 1:08:18
  this
• 1:08:18
  is
• 1:08:18
  going
• 1:08:18
  to
• 1:08:18
  resonate
• 1:08:20
  better.
• 1:08:21
  And
• 1:08:21
  that's
• 1:08:21
  all
• 1:08:21
  he
• 1:08:21
  was
• 1:08:22
  doing.
• 1:08:22
  So
• 1:08:23
  I
• 1:08:23
  took
• 1:08:24
  the
• 1:08:24
  personal
• 1:08:24
  side
• 1:08:25
  out
• 1:08:25
  of
• 1:08:25
  it,
• 1:08:27
  listened
• 1:08:27
  and
• 1:08:28
  said,
• 1:08:28
  yeah,
• 1:08:28
  okay,
• 1:08:29
  yeah,
• 1:08:29
  we
• 1:08:29
  can
• 1:08:29
  do
• 1:08:29
  better.
• 1:08:30
  And
• 1:08:30
  I'm
• 1:08:30
  just,
• 1:08:31
  I'm
• 1:08:31
  so
• 1:08:32
  pleased
• 1:08:32
  we
• 1:08:32
  did.
• 1:08:33
  Yes,
• 1:08:33
  but
• 1:08:33
  you
• 1:08:34
  can
• 1:08:34
  certainly.
• 1:08:34
  I
• 1:08:34
  think
• 1:08:35
  I
• 1:08:36
  noticed
• 1:08:37
  one.
• 1:08:37
  There
• 1:08:38
  was
• 1:08:38
  a
• 1:08:38
  capital,
• 1:08:38
  A
• 1:08:38
  rogue
• 1:08:39
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• 1:08:40
  letter
• 1:08:40
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• 1:08:41
  the
• 1:08:41
  start
• 1:08:41
  of
• 1:08:41
  one
• 1:08:41
  of
• 1:08:41
  my
• 1:08:42
  sentences
• 1:08:42
  that
• 1:08:42
  I
• 1:08:43
  didn't
• 1:08:43
  like.
• 1:08:43
  So
• 1:08:43
  I
• 1:08:43
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• 1:08:44
  in
• 1:08:44
  and
• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:44
  it.
• 1:08:45
  Within
• 1:08:45
  Amazon,
• 1:08:45
  no
• 1:08:46
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• 1:08:46
  knows,
• 1:08:47
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• 1:08:47
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• 1:08:48
  from
• 1:08:48
  me
• 1:08:48
  and
• 1:08:49
  everyone
• 1:08:49
  now
• 1:08:49
  on
• 1:08:49
  this
• 1:08:50
  podcast,
• 1:08:50
  but
• 1:08:50
  no
• 1:08:50
  one
• 1:08:51
  knew
• 1:08:51
  at
• 1:08:51
  the
• 1:08:51
  time.
• 1:08:51
  So
• 1:08:52
  you
• 1:08:52
  can
• 1:08:52
  go
• 1:08:52
  in
• 1:08:52
  and
• 1:08:53
  change.
• 1:08:53
  Stuff
• 1:08:54
  and
• 1:08:55
  it
• 1:08:55
  doesn't
• 1:08:56
  cost
• 1:08:56
  you?
• 1:08:56
  No,
• 1:08:57
  not
• 1:08:57
  at
• 1:08:57
  all.
• 1:08:58
  We
• 1:08:58
  talked
• 1:08:59
  a
• 1:08:59
  little
• 1:08:59
  bit
• 1:08:59
  at
• 1:08:59
  the
• 1:08:59
  beginning
• 1:09:00
  about
• 1:09:01
  book
• 1:09:01
  authorship
• 1:09:02
  and
• 1:09:02
  how
• 1:09:03
  you
• 1:09:03
  visualized
• 1:09:04
  your
• 1:09:04
  book
• 1:09:04
  and
• 1:09:05
  all
• 1:09:05
  of
• 1:09:05
  that.
• 1:09:06
  So
• 1:09:06
  I'm
• 1:09:06
  curious,
• 1:09:08
  I
• 1:09:08
  want
• 1:09:08
  to
• 1:09:08
  talk
• 1:09:09
  to
• 1:09:09
  you
• 1:09:09
  about
• 1:09:10
  your
• 1:09:10
  measurement
• 1:09:11
  of
• 1:09:11
  success.
• 1:09:12
  Now
• 1:09:12
  that
• 1:09:12
  you've
• 1:09:12
  been
• 1:09:13
  at
• 1:09:13
  it
• 1:09:13
  for
• 1:09:13
  a
• 1:09:13
  little
• 1:09:14
  bit,
• 1:09:14
  I'm
• 1:09:15
  curious
• 1:09:16
  on
• 1:09:18
  what
• 1:09:18
  you
• 1:09:18
  envision
• 1:09:19
  for
• 1:09:19
  yourself
• 1:09:19
  for
• 1:09:19
  the
• 1:09:20
  book
• 1:09:20
  to
• 1:09:20
  be
• 1:09:20
  successful.
• 1:09:23
  As
• 1:09:23
  I
• 1:09:23
  said,
• 1:09:23
  the
• 1:09:25
  getting
• 1:09:25
  the
• 1:09:25
  videos
• 1:09:26
  of
• 1:09:26
  the
• 1:09:26
  children
• 1:09:26
  reading
• 1:09:27
  it.
• 1:09:28
  That
• 1:09:28
  to
• 1:09:28
  me,
• 1:09:29
  I'm
• 1:09:29
  already
• 1:09:29
  successful.
• 1:09:30
  That's.
• 1:09:31
  There
• 1:09:31
  is
• 1:09:31
  a
• 1:09:31
  little
• 1:09:32
  girl.
• 1:09:32
  She's
• 1:09:32
  my
• 1:09:33
  friend's
• 1:09:33
  little
• 1:09:33
  girl.
• 1:09:33
  She's
• 1:09:34
  three
• 1:09:34
  years
• 1:09:34
  old
• 1:09:36
  and
• 1:09:36
  she
• 1:09:36
  can
• 1:09:36
  recite
• 1:09:37
  it
• 1:09:37
  word
• 1:09:37
  for
• 1:09:38
  word
• 1:09:38
  and
• 1:09:38
  does
• 1:09:38
  to
• 1:09:39
  her
• 1:09:39
  family
• 1:09:39
  as
• 1:09:40
  like
• 1:09:41
  a
• 1:09:41
  showpiece.
• 1:09:42
  So
• 1:09:43
  that
• 1:09:43
  is
• 1:09:44
  the
• 1:09:44
  biggest
• 1:09:44
  measure
• 1:09:45
  of
• 1:09:45
  success.
• 1:09:46
  I.
• 1:09:46
  Do
• 1:09:46
  you
• 1:09:46
  know
• 1:09:46
  what?
• 1:09:46
  I.
• 1:09:48
  I
• 1:09:48
  don't
• 1:09:48
  know
• 1:09:48
  because
• 1:09:49
  I
• 1:09:49
  didn't
• 1:09:49
  go
• 1:09:50
  in
• 1:09:50
  thinking,
• 1:09:50
  oh,
• 1:09:50
  I'm.
• 1:09:51
  I
• 1:09:51
  must
• 1:09:51
  sell
• 1:09:52
  so
• 1:09:52
  many
• 1:09:52
  books.
• 1:09:53
  I
• 1:09:53
  just
• 1:09:53
  wanted
• 1:09:53
  it
• 1:09:53
  to
• 1:09:54
  be
• 1:09:54
  out
• 1:09:54
  there.
• 1:09:55
  So
• 1:09:55
  I
• 1:09:56
  have
• 1:09:56
  sold
• 1:09:57
  over
• 1:09:57
  a
• 1:09:57
  hundred
• 1:09:57
  books,
• 1:09:58
  which.
• 1:09:58
  Congratulations.
• 1:10:00
  Thank
• 1:10:00
  you.
• 1:10:00
  That
• 1:10:01
  is,
• 1:10:02
  I
• 1:10:02
  think,
• 1:10:02
  way
• 1:10:03
  more
• 1:10:03
  than
• 1:10:03
  I
• 1:10:03
  had
• 1:10:03
  ever
• 1:10:05
  anticipated.
• 1:10:06
  You
• 1:10:06
  know
• 1:10:06
  what?
• 1:10:06
  I
• 1:10:07
  talk
• 1:10:07
  about
• 1:10:07
  this
• 1:10:07
  on
• 1:10:08
  the
• 1:10:08
  show.
• 1:10:08
  The
• 1:10:08
  average
• 1:10:09
  book,
• 1:10:10
  children's
• 1:10:11
  book,
• 1:10:11
  sells
• 1:10:11
  between
• 1:10:12
  100
• 1:10:12
  and
• 1:10:13
  500
• 1:10:13
  copies
• 1:10:14
  over
• 1:10:14
  the
• 1:10:14
  lifetime
• 1:10:15
  of
• 1:10:15
  the
• 1:10:15
  book.
• 1:10:16
  Wow.
• 1:10:17
  So
• 1:10:17
  there
• 1:10:17
  you
• 1:10:17
  go.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  So
• 1:10:19
  you
• 1:10:19
  can
• 1:10:19
  see
• 1:10:19
  you're
• 1:10:20
  well
• 1:10:20
  on
• 1:10:20
  your
• 1:10:20
  way.
• 1:10:21
  Yes.
• 1:10:22
  Yeah,
• 1:10:22
  absolutely.
• 1:10:23
  So
• 1:10:23
  that's
• 1:10:23
  amazing.
• 1:10:24
  The
• 1:10:25
  reviews
• 1:10:25
  are
• 1:10:25
  all
• 1:10:25
  positive.
• 1:10:27
  And
• 1:10:27
  what's
• 1:10:27
  nice
• 1:10:28
  is
• 1:10:28
  that
• 1:10:29
  I
• 1:10:29
  am
• 1:10:29
  getting,
• 1:10:31
  I
• 1:10:32
  say,
• 1:10:32
  random.
• 1:10:33
  A
• 1:10:33
  contact
• 1:10:34
  that
• 1:10:34
  I
• 1:10:34
  might
• 1:10:35
  have
• 1:10:35
  met
• 1:10:35
  has
• 1:10:35
  bought
• 1:10:36
  the
• 1:10:36
  book.
• 1:10:37
  They
• 1:10:37
  are
• 1:10:37
  under
• 1:10:37
  no
• 1:10:38
  obligation
• 1:10:38
  to
• 1:10:39
  contact
• 1:10:39
  me,
• 1:10:40
  but
• 1:10:41
  they
• 1:10:41
  do
• 1:10:41
  to
• 1:10:42
  say,
• 1:10:42
  just
• 1:10:42
  so
• 1:10:42
  you
• 1:10:43
  know,
• 1:10:43
  we
• 1:10:43
  really
• 1:10:43
  enjoy
• 1:10:43
  the
• 1:10:44
  book.
• 1:10:45
  So
• 1:10:46
  again,
• 1:10:46
  if
• 1:10:47
  it
• 1:10:47
  was
• 1:10:47
  rubbish
• 1:10:47
  and
• 1:10:48
  people
• 1:10:48
  bought
• 1:10:48
  it,
• 1:10:48
  gone,
• 1:10:48
  oh,
• 1:10:49
  that
• 1:10:49
  was
• 1:10:49
  rubbish.
• 1:10:49
  They
• 1:10:50
  just.
• 1:10:50
  They
• 1:10:50
  don't
• 1:10:50
  have
• 1:10:50
  to
• 1:10:51
  contact
• 1:10:51
  me,
• 1:10:51
  but
• 1:10:51
  they
• 1:10:51
  are
• 1:10:52
  going
• 1:10:52
  out
• 1:10:52
  of
• 1:10:52
  their
• 1:10:52
  way
• 1:10:53
  to
• 1:10:54
  message
• 1:10:54
  me
• 1:10:54
  to
• 1:10:55
  say,
• 1:10:55
  we
• 1:10:55
  really
• 1:10:55
  enjoyed
• 1:10:56
  it.
• 1:10:56
  It's
• 1:10:57
  a
• 1:10:57
  favorite
• 1:10:57
  in
• 1:10:57
  the
• 1:10:58
  family.
• 1:10:59
  My
• 1:10:59
  friend
• 1:10:59
  sent
• 1:11:00
  me
• 1:11:00
  a
• 1:11:00
  photo
• 1:11:00
  of
• 1:11:00
  his
• 1:11:01
  little
• 1:11:01
  girl.
• 1:11:02
  She
• 1:11:02
  had
• 1:11:03
  woken
• 1:11:03
  him
• 1:11:03
  up,
• 1:11:03
  I
• 1:11:04
  think,
• 1:11:04
  at
• 1:11:04
  5am
• 1:11:05
  to
• 1:11:06
  read
• 1:11:06
  it
• 1:11:06
  to
• 1:11:06
  her
• 1:11:06
  again.
• 1:11:07
  He
• 1:11:08
  told
• 1:11:08
  her,
• 1:11:08
  it's
• 1:11:08
  way
• 1:11:09
  too
• 1:11:09
  early,
• 1:11:09
  go
• 1:11:09
  back
• 1:11:10
  to
• 1:11:10
  sleep.
• 1:11:11
  So
• 1:11:11
  then
• 1:11:11
  she
• 1:11:12
  went
• 1:11:12
  back
• 1:11:12
  to
• 1:11:12
  sleep
• 1:11:12
  cuddling
• 1:11:13
  the
• 1:11:13
  book.
• 1:11:14
  And
• 1:11:14
  I
• 1:11:14
  got
• 1:11:15
  a
• 1:11:15
  photo
• 1:11:15
  of
• 1:11:15
  her
• 1:11:15
  cuddling
• 1:11:16
  the
• 1:11:16
  book
• 1:11:16
  in
• 1:11:16
  bed.
• 1:11:17
  And
• 1:11:18
  I
• 1:11:18
  just.
• 1:11:18
  Even
• 1:11:19
  if
• 1:11:19
  I
• 1:11:19
  don't
• 1:11:19
  sell
• 1:11:20
  any
• 1:11:20
  more.
• 1:11:22
  That's
• 1:11:22
  amazing.
• 1:11:23
  Absolutely.
• 1:11:24
  One
• 1:11:24
  of
• 1:11:24
  the
• 1:11:24
  nicest
• 1:11:25
  things
• 1:11:25
  that
• 1:11:25
  happened
• 1:11:26
  to
• 1:11:26
  us
• 1:11:26
  a
• 1:11:26
  couple
• 1:11:27
  of
• 1:11:27
  nights
• 1:11:27
  ago
• 1:11:27
  is
• 1:11:28
  a
• 1:11:28
  friend
• 1:11:28
  of
• 1:11:28
  ours
• 1:11:29
  had
• 1:11:29
  bought
• 1:11:29
  our
• 1:11:29
  second
• 1:11:30
  book,
• 1:11:30
  plus
• 1:11:31
  our
• 1:11:31
  plushie,
• 1:11:32
  and
• 1:11:33
  he
• 1:11:33
  was
• 1:11:33
  reading
• 1:11:35
  the
• 1:11:35
  book
• 1:11:36
  and
• 1:11:37
  his
• 1:11:37
  grandson
• 1:11:37
  was
• 1:11:38
  hanging
• 1:11:38
  onto
• 1:11:38
  the
• 1:11:39
  plushie
• 1:11:40
  and
• 1:11:41
  they
• 1:11:41
  sent
• 1:11:41
  us
• 1:11:42
  this
• 1:11:42
  picture.
• 1:11:43
  And
• 1:11:43
  it's
• 1:11:44
  such
• 1:11:44
  an
• 1:11:45
  awesome
• 1:11:45
  picture.
• 1:11:46
  Yeah,
• 1:11:47
  that's
• 1:11:47
  so
• 1:11:47
  cool.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah,
• 1:11:48
  it
• 1:11:48
  is.
• 1:11:49
  It
• 1:11:49
  is.
• 1:11:50
  So
• 1:11:50
  what
• 1:11:51
  got
• 1:11:51
  you
• 1:11:51
  to
• 1:11:51
  do
• 1:11:52
  the
• 1:11:52
  plushie?
• 1:11:53
  Because
• 1:11:53
  as
• 1:11:53
  I
• 1:11:53
  said
• 1:11:53
  earlier,
• 1:11:54
  that
• 1:11:54
  is
• 1:11:54
  something
• 1:11:54
  I
• 1:11:54
  am.
• 1:11:55
  I
• 1:11:56
  would
• 1:11:56
  love
• 1:11:56
  to
• 1:11:56
  do
• 1:11:56
  in
• 1:11:56
  the
• 1:11:57
  Future.
• 1:11:57
  One
• 1:11:58
  of
• 1:11:58
  our
• 1:11:58
  retailers
• 1:11:59
  said
• 1:11:59
  to
• 1:12:00
  us,
• 1:12:01
  we
• 1:12:01
  sell
• 1:12:02
  a
• 1:12:02
  lot
• 1:12:02
  more
• 1:12:02
  books
• 1:12:03
  when
• 1:12:03
  they
• 1:12:03
  have
• 1:12:03
  a
• 1:12:03
  plushie.
• 1:12:04
  And
• 1:12:05
  so
• 1:12:05
  I
• 1:12:06
  took
• 1:12:06
  probably
• 1:12:06
  about
• 1:12:07
  a
• 1:12:07
  year
• 1:12:07
  and
• 1:12:07
  a
• 1:12:07
  half
• 1:12:07
  to
• 1:12:08
  figure
• 1:12:08
  out
• 1:12:08
  how
• 1:12:08
  to
• 1:12:08
  do
• 1:12:09
  that,
• 1:12:09
  because
• 1:12:09
  it's
• 1:12:10
  not
• 1:12:10
  inexpensive
• 1:12:11
  to
• 1:12:11
  do.
• 1:12:12
  And
• 1:12:13
  of
• 1:12:13
  course,
• 1:12:13
  our
• 1:12:13
  garage
• 1:12:14
  is
• 1:12:14
  full
• 1:12:15
  with
• 1:12:16
  these
• 1:12:16
  plushies.
• 1:12:17
  I
• 1:12:17
  think
• 1:12:17
  I
• 1:12:17
  should
• 1:12:17
  have
• 1:12:18
  had
• 1:12:18
  maybe
• 1:12:18
  a
• 1:12:18
  stronger
• 1:12:19
  plan.
• 1:12:20
  I'm
• 1:12:21
  sharing
• 1:12:21
  this
• 1:12:21
  with
• 1:12:21
  our
• 1:12:21
  audience.
• 1:12:22
  I'm
• 1:12:23
  just
• 1:12:23
  working
• 1:12:23
  on
• 1:12:23
  that
• 1:12:24
  now
• 1:12:24
  because
• 1:12:25
  we
• 1:12:25
  do
• 1:12:25
  have
• 1:12:25
  four
• 1:12:26
  retailers
• 1:12:26
  with
• 1:12:27
  the
• 1:12:27
  plushies.
• 1:12:27
  It.
• 1:12:28
  It'll
• 1:12:28
  take
• 1:12:29
  more
• 1:12:29
  than
• 1:12:29
  that.
• 1:12:29
  We've
• 1:12:30
  applied
• 1:12:30
  to
• 1:12:30
  a
• 1:12:30
  couple
• 1:12:30
  of
• 1:12:31
  markets,
• 1:12:31
  Christmas
• 1:12:32
  markets,
• 1:12:32
  because
• 1:12:33
  I
• 1:12:33
  was
• 1:12:33
  talking
• 1:12:34
  to
• 1:12:34
  some
• 1:12:34
  of
• 1:12:34
  the
• 1:12:35
  children's
• 1:12:36
  book
• 1:12:36
  authors
• 1:12:36
  who
• 1:12:36
  do
• 1:12:37
  have
• 1:12:37
  plushies,
• 1:12:37
  and
• 1:12:38
  they
• 1:12:38
  said
• 1:12:39
  their
• 1:12:39
  most
• 1:12:39
  success
• 1:12:40
  comes
• 1:12:41
  at
• 1:12:42
  markets
• 1:12:43
  to
• 1:12:43
  sell
• 1:12:43
  their
• 1:12:44
  plushie
• 1:12:44
  because
• 1:12:44
  people
• 1:12:45
  like
• 1:12:45
  to
• 1:12:45
  touch
• 1:12:45
  them.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah.
• 1:12:46
  And
• 1:12:47
  you
• 1:12:47
  can
• 1:12:47
  sell
• 1:12:47
  them
• 1:12:47
  as
• 1:12:48
  a
• 1:12:48
  packet.
• 1:12:48
  That
• 1:12:48
  is
• 1:12:48
  exactly
• 1:12:49
  why
• 1:12:49
  someone
• 1:12:50
  said
• 1:12:50
  to
• 1:12:50
  me,
• 1:12:51
  you
• 1:12:51
  need
• 1:12:51
  to
• 1:12:51
  sell
• 1:12:51
  plushies
• 1:12:52
  at
• 1:12:52
  the
• 1:12:52
  Christmas
• 1:12:53
  market
• 1:12:53
  with
• 1:12:53
  the
• 1:12:53
  book.
• 1:12:53
  And
• 1:12:54
  ultimately
• 1:12:54
  you
• 1:12:54
  go,
• 1:12:55
  that
• 1:12:55
  is
• 1:12:55
  not
• 1:12:55
  as
• 1:12:55
  simple
• 1:12:56
  as
• 1:12:56
  that.
• 1:12:56
  I
• 1:12:56
  could
• 1:12:57
  get
• 1:12:57
  a
• 1:12:57
  generic
• 1:12:57
  frog.
• 1:12:58
  Yes.
• 1:12:59
  But
• 1:12:59
  if
• 1:12:59
  I
• 1:12:59
  wanted
• 1:13:00
  the
• 1:13:00
  one
• 1:13:00
  frog
• 1:13:01
  band,
• 1:13:01
  that's
• 1:13:02
  a
• 1:13:02
  whole
• 1:13:02
  other
• 1:13:03
  game.
• 1:13:04
  Now,
• 1:13:05
  what
• 1:13:05
  you
• 1:13:05
  can
• 1:13:05
  do,
• 1:13:06
  this
• 1:13:06
  is
• 1:13:06
  what
• 1:13:06
  I
• 1:13:07
  recommend.
• 1:13:08
  There's
• 1:13:08
  no
• 1:13:08
  obligation.
• 1:13:09
  There's
• 1:13:10
  a
• 1:13:10
  website,
• 1:13:10
  actually,
• 1:13:11
  a
• 1:13:11
  children's
• 1:13:12
  book
• 1:13:12
  author
• 1:13:12
  from
• 1:13:12
  Oklahoma
• 1:13:14
  said
• 1:13:14
  to
• 1:13:14
  me,
• 1:13:15
  I
• 1:13:16
  did
• 1:13:16
  this.
• 1:13:16
  I
• 1:13:17
  used
• 1:13:17
  this
• 1:13:17
  website
• 1:13:18
  called
• 1:13:18
  madeinchina.com
• 1:13:21
  and
• 1:13:22
  she
• 1:13:22
  encouraged
• 1:13:23
  me
• 1:13:23
  to
• 1:13:23
  use
• 1:13:24
  that.
• 1:13:24
  And
• 1:13:24
  I
• 1:13:24
  reached
• 1:13:25
  out
• 1:13:25
  to
• 1:13:25
  two
• 1:13:25
  different
• 1:13:26
  suppliers.
• 1:13:26
  They
• 1:13:27
  came
• 1:13:27
  back.
• 1:13:28
  I
• 1:13:28
  had
• 1:13:28
  to
• 1:13:28
  pay
• 1:13:28
  $85American
• 1:13:30
  for
• 1:13:31
  the
• 1:13:31
  sample.
• 1:13:32
  But
• 1:13:33
  after
• 1:13:33
  they
• 1:13:33
  sent
• 1:13:34
  them
• 1:13:34
  all
• 1:13:34
  the
• 1:13:34
  pictures.
• 1:13:35
  Okay,
• 1:13:35
  so
• 1:13:35
  it
• 1:13:36
  was
• 1:13:36
  all,
• 1:13:36
  like
• 1:13:36
  you
• 1:13:36
  said,
• 1:13:37
  email.
• 1:13:38
  I
• 1:13:39
  took
• 1:13:39
  our.
• 1:13:40
  The
• 1:13:40
  one
• 1:13:40
  back
• 1:13:41
  here,
• 1:13:41
  which
• 1:13:41
  is
• 1:13:41
  our
• 1:13:41
  prototype,
• 1:13:42
  which
• 1:13:42
  is
• 1:13:43
  much
• 1:13:43
  larger,
• 1:13:44
  and
• 1:13:44
  I
• 1:13:45
  took
• 1:13:45
  her
• 1:13:45
  clothes
• 1:13:46
  off
• 1:13:46
  and
• 1:13:46
  all
• 1:13:46
  of
• 1:13:47
  that,
• 1:13:47
  laid
• 1:13:47
  it
• 1:13:47
  out,
• 1:13:47
  took
• 1:13:48
  pictures,
• 1:13:48
  sent
• 1:13:49
  it.
• 1:13:49
  And
• 1:13:49
  then
• 1:13:49
  they
• 1:13:50
  came
• 1:13:50
  back
• 1:13:50
  with
• 1:13:50
  a
• 1:13:50
  prototype,
• 1:13:51
  which
• 1:13:51
  is
• 1:13:52
  behind
• 1:13:52
  me.
• 1:13:53
  I
• 1:13:53
  didn't
• 1:13:54
  like
• 1:13:54
  the
• 1:13:54
  prototypes.
• 1:13:57
  It
• 1:13:57
  didn't
• 1:13:58
  have
• 1:13:58
  the
• 1:13:58
  smile.
• 1:13:59
  Oh,
• 1:13:59
  yeah.
• 1:14:00
  That
• 1:14:00
  we
• 1:14:01
  have.
• 1:14:01
  If
• 1:14:01
  you
• 1:14:01
  look
• 1:14:02
  on
• 1:14:02
  our
• 1:14:02
  book,
• 1:14:02
  Caboose
• 1:14:03
  has
• 1:14:03
  a
• 1:14:03
  smile.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  But
• 1:14:05
  if
• 1:14:05
  you
• 1:14:05
  look
• 1:14:05
  at
• 1:14:06
  the
• 1:14:07
  actual
• 1:14:08
  one
• 1:14:09
  that
• 1:14:09
  we
• 1:14:10
  made,
• 1:14:10
  that
• 1:14:10
  small
• 1:14:10
  change
• 1:14:11
  has
• 1:14:11
  the
• 1:14:11
  smile.
• 1:14:12
  So
• 1:14:13
  there's
• 1:14:13
  the
• 1:14:13
  difference.
• 1:14:14
  Oh,
• 1:14:14
  I
• 1:14:15
  love
• 1:14:15
  that.
• 1:14:15
  Oh,
• 1:14:16
  it
• 1:14:16
  does
• 1:14:16
  make
• 1:14:16
  a
• 1:14:16
  big
• 1:14:16
  difference
• 1:14:17
  as
• 1:14:17
  well.
• 1:14:18
  It
• 1:14:18
  does.
• 1:14:18
  So
• 1:14:19
  that's
• 1:14:19
  what
• 1:14:19
  we
• 1:14:19
  did.
• 1:14:19
  But
• 1:14:20
  I
• 1:14:20
  use
• 1:14:20
  Made
• 1:14:20
  in
• 1:14:21
  China,
• 1:14:21
  and
• 1:14:22
  their
• 1:14:22
  pricing
• 1:14:23
  was
• 1:14:23
  extremely
• 1:14:24
  good,
• 1:14:25
  and
• 1:14:25
  it
• 1:14:25
  allowed
• 1:14:26
  us
• 1:14:26
  to
• 1:14:26
  have
• 1:14:26
  now
• 1:14:27
  enough
• 1:14:27
  margin
• 1:14:28
  to
• 1:14:28
  sell
• 1:14:28
  it
• 1:14:28
  to
• 1:14:28
  the
• 1:14:29
  retailers,
• 1:14:30
  but
• 1:14:31
  we
• 1:14:31
  had
• 1:14:31
  to
• 1:14:31
  order
• 1:14:31
  500
• 1:14:32
  units.
• 1:14:33
  Well,
• 1:14:33
  I
• 1:14:33
  should
• 1:14:33
  have
• 1:14:34
  a
• 1:14:34
  look.
• 1:14:34
  Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  But
• 1:14:35
  anyway,
• 1:14:35
  this
• 1:14:35
  is.
• 1:14:35
  This
• 1:14:36
  is
• 1:14:36
  the
• 1:14:36
  thing.
• 1:14:37
  It
• 1:14:38
  is
• 1:14:38
  the
• 1:14:38
  whole
• 1:14:38
  game
• 1:14:38
  of
• 1:14:39
  how
• 1:14:39
  much
• 1:14:39
  do
• 1:14:39
  you
• 1:14:39
  want
• 1:14:39
  to
• 1:14:40
  go
• 1:14:40
  down
• 1:14:41
  this
• 1:14:41
  rabbit
• 1:14:41
  hole?
• 1:14:42
  I'm
• 1:14:42
  curious.
• 1:14:43
  Are
• 1:14:44
  you
• 1:14:44
  devoting
• 1:14:44
  any
• 1:14:45
  more
• 1:14:45
  time
• 1:14:45
  to
• 1:14:45
  your
• 1:14:46
  writing?
• 1:14:47
  Not
• 1:14:47
  right
• 1:14:47
  now.
• 1:14:48
  Simply
• 1:14:48
  because
• 1:14:49
  I
• 1:14:49
  have
• 1:14:49
  a
• 1:14:50
  million
• 1:14:50
  and
• 1:14:50
  other
• 1:14:50
  one
• 1:14:51
  things
• 1:14:51
  going
• 1:14:51
  on
• 1:14:52
  say
• 1:14:52
  with
• 1:14:53
  my
• 1:14:53
  business.
• 1:14:53
  And
• 1:14:54
  I'm.
• 1:14:54
  Now
• 1:14:55
  I
• 1:14:55
  can
• 1:14:55
  say
• 1:14:55
  this
• 1:14:56
  in
• 1:14:56
  the
• 1:14:56
  podcast
• 1:14:56
  because
• 1:14:56
  my
• 1:14:56
  nan
• 1:14:57
  won't
• 1:14:57
  be
• 1:14:57
  listening
• 1:14:57
  to
• 1:14:57
  it,
• 1:14:57
  but
• 1:14:58
  I'm
• 1:14:58
  knitting
• 1:14:58
  her
• 1:14:58
  a
• 1:14:58
  blanket
• 1:14:59
  for
• 1:14:59
  her
• 1:14:59
  80th
• 1:15:00
  birthday.
• 1:15:01
  That
• 1:15:01
  is
• 1:15:02
  taking.
• 1:15:02
  I
• 1:15:02
  am
• 1:15:02
  very
• 1:15:03
  slow.
• 1:15:03
  Knitting
• 1:15:04
  is
• 1:15:04
  not
• 1:15:04
  a
• 1:15:05
  skill
• 1:15:05
  that
• 1:15:05
  I
• 1:15:06
  was
• 1:15:06
  blessed
• 1:15:06
  with.
• 1:15:07
  That
• 1:15:07
  is
• 1:15:08
  taken
• 1:15:08
  all
• 1:15:08
  of
• 1:15:08
  my
• 1:15:09
  spare
• 1:15:09
  time.
• 1:15:09
  Okay.
• 1:15:10
  Right
• 1:15:11
  now,
• 1:15:11
  no.
• 1:15:11
  But
• 1:15:12
  I
• 1:15:12
  think,
• 1:15:13
  do
• 1:15:13
  you
• 1:15:13
  know,
• 1:15:13
  I
• 1:15:13
  think
• 1:15:13
  it's
• 1:15:13
  good
• 1:15:14
  to
• 1:15:14
  have
• 1:15:15
  a
• 1:15:15
  break
• 1:15:16
  to
• 1:15:16
  let
• 1:15:17
  this
• 1:15:17
  simmer,
• 1:15:19
  to
• 1:15:19
  see
• 1:15:19
  where
• 1:15:19
  it
• 1:15:19
  goes.
• 1:15:20
  And
• 1:15:20
  then
• 1:15:22
  if
• 1:15:22
  the
• 1:15:22
  time
• 1:15:23
  feels
• 1:15:23
  right,
• 1:15:23
  then
• 1:15:24
  we'll
• 1:15:24
  see
• 1:15:25
  whether
• 1:15:25
  there's
• 1:15:25
  a
• 1:15:25
  story
• 1:15:26
  about
• 1:15:26
  Cooper
• 1:15:26
  the
• 1:15:27
  dog
• 1:15:27
  that
• 1:15:27
  comes
• 1:15:27
  out
• 1:15:27
  at
• 1:15:28
  some
• 1:15:28
  point.
• 1:15:28
  But
• 1:15:29
  for
• 1:15:29
  now,
• 1:15:30
  that's
• 1:15:30
  why
• 1:15:30
  my
• 1:15:30
  youngest
• 1:15:31
  grandson's
• 1:15:32
  named
• 1:15:32
  Cooper.
• 1:15:32
  Is
• 1:15:32
  it?
• 1:15:33
  Oh
• 1:15:33
  yeah.
• 1:15:34
  So
• 1:15:36
  Cooper
• 1:15:36
  is
• 1:15:37
  our.
• 1:15:37
  He's
• 1:15:37
  a
• 1:15:37
  five
• 1:15:38
  year
• 1:15:38
  old
• 1:15:39
  dog
• 1:15:39
  and
• 1:15:39
  he's
• 1:15:39
  just,
• 1:15:40
  he's
• 1:15:40
  got
• 1:15:41
  all
• 1:15:41
  the
• 1:15:41
  personality
• 1:15:42
  to
• 1:15:42
  make
• 1:15:42
  a
• 1:15:42
  brilliant
• 1:15:43
  story.
• 1:15:44
  But
• 1:15:44
  for
• 1:15:45
  now
• 1:15:45
  I
• 1:15:45
  just
• 1:15:45
  need
• 1:15:46
  the.
• 1:15:46
  I
• 1:15:46
  just
• 1:15:46
  need.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah,
• 1:15:47
  I
• 1:15:47
  just
• 1:15:47
  need
• 1:15:47
  to
• 1:15:47
  enjoy
• 1:15:47
  the
• 1:15:48
  Galloping
• 1:15:48
  frog.
• 1:15:48
  Good
• 1:15:49
  for
• 1:15:49
  you.
• 1:15:49
  So,
• 1:15:50
  advice
• 1:15:50
  for
• 1:15:50
  aspiring
• 1:15:51
  authors.
• 1:15:51
  What
• 1:15:52
  advice
• 1:15:52
  would
• 1:15:52
  you
• 1:15:52
  give
• 1:15:53
  aspiring
• 1:15:53
  authors?
• 1:15:55
  Oh,
• 1:15:56
  so
• 1:15:57
  I
• 1:15:57
  think
• 1:15:57
  you
• 1:15:57
  said
• 1:15:58
  this
• 1:15:58
  earlier.
• 1:15:58
  Just
• 1:15:59
  start.
• 1:16:00
  Which
• 1:16:01
  be
• 1:16:02
  the
• 1:16:02
  most
• 1:16:02
  annoying
• 1:16:03
  thing
• 1:16:03
  for
• 1:16:03
  someone
• 1:16:03
  to
• 1:16:04
  say
• 1:16:04
  because
• 1:16:05
  if
• 1:16:05
  anyone's
• 1:16:05
  got
• 1:16:06
  a
• 1:16:06
  brain
• 1:16:06
  like
• 1:16:06
  me.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah,
• 1:16:07
  but
• 1:16:07
  start
• 1:16:07
  where?
• 1:16:08
  Give
• 1:16:08
  me
• 1:16:09
  more
• 1:16:09
  instructions
• 1:16:10
  than
• 1:16:10
  that.
• 1:16:10
  I
• 1:16:11
  was
• 1:16:11
  just
• 1:16:13
  from,
• 1:16:13
  as
• 1:16:13
  I
• 1:16:14
  said
• 1:16:14
  before,
• 1:16:14
  I
• 1:16:14
  dabbled
• 1:16:15
  with
• 1:16:15
  starting
• 1:16:16
  to
• 1:16:16
  write
• 1:16:16
  some
• 1:16:17
  chapters
• 1:16:17
  for
• 1:16:18
  some
• 1:16:18
  bigger
• 1:16:18
  novels.
• 1:16:19
  I
• 1:16:19
  was
• 1:16:19
  thinking
• 1:16:19
  it
• 1:16:19
  was
• 1:16:19
  going
• 1:16:19
  to
• 1:16:19
  be
• 1:16:20
  more
• 1:16:20
  young
• 1:16:21
  adult,
• 1:16:21
  teenage
• 1:16:22
  and
• 1:16:23
  I
• 1:16:23
  thought,
• 1:16:24
  oh
• 1:16:24
  maybe,
• 1:16:25
  maybe
• 1:16:25
  I'll
• 1:16:26
  go
• 1:16:26
  down
• 1:16:26
  the
• 1:16:26
  fantasy
• 1:16:27
  route
• 1:16:27
  because
• 1:16:27
  then
• 1:16:27
  no
• 1:16:28
  one
• 1:16:28
  can
• 1:16:28
  fact
• 1:16:29
  check
• 1:16:29
  me
• 1:16:29
  if
• 1:16:30
  I
• 1:16:30
  make
• 1:16:30
  stuff
• 1:16:30
  up,
• 1:16:31
  no
• 1:16:31
  one
• 1:16:31
  can
• 1:16:31
  tell
• 1:16:31
  me
• 1:16:31
  it's
• 1:16:32
  wrong.
• 1:16:33
  So
• 1:16:33
  I
• 1:16:33
  did
• 1:16:33
  a
• 1:16:34
  chapter
• 1:16:34
  of
• 1:16:34
  that
• 1:16:34
  and
• 1:16:35
  I
• 1:16:36
  just
• 1:16:36
  didn't
• 1:16:36
  enjoy
• 1:16:36
  it.
• 1:16:37
  And
• 1:16:38
  I
• 1:16:38
  was,
• 1:16:38
  I
• 1:16:39
  think
• 1:16:39
  I
• 1:16:39
  realized
• 1:16:39
  I
• 1:16:40
  was
• 1:16:40
  trying
• 1:16:40
  to
• 1:16:40
  force
• 1:16:40
  myself
• 1:16:41
  to
• 1:16:41
  enjoy
• 1:16:41
  it
• 1:16:41
  because
• 1:16:41
  I
• 1:16:42
  knew
• 1:16:42
  I
• 1:16:42
  wanted
• 1:16:42
  a
• 1:16:42
  publishing
• 1:16:43
  book
• 1:16:43
  one
• 1:16:43
  day
• 1:16:43
  in
• 1:16:44
  my
• 1:16:44
  life.
• 1:16:45
  I
• 1:16:45
  was
• 1:16:45
  trying
• 1:16:45
  to
• 1:16:46
  force
• 1:16:46
  something.
• 1:16:47
  Whereas
• 1:16:48
  this
• 1:16:48
  came
• 1:16:48
  to
• 1:16:48
  me
• 1:16:49
  at
• 1:16:49
  the
• 1:16:49
  right
• 1:16:49
  time,
• 1:16:50
  the
• 1:16:50
  right
• 1:16:50
  story.
• 1:16:52
  And
• 1:16:52
  I
• 1:16:52
  just
• 1:16:52
  sat
• 1:16:53
  down
• 1:16:53
  one
• 1:16:53
  day,
• 1:16:53
  I
• 1:16:53
  just
• 1:16:53
  remember
• 1:16:54
  my
• 1:16:54
  husband
• 1:16:54
  was
• 1:16:54
  out
• 1:16:54
  at
• 1:16:55
  work
• 1:16:55
  and
• 1:16:55
  I
• 1:16:55
  just
• 1:16:56
  sat
• 1:16:56
  down
• 1:16:56
  and
• 1:16:58
  started
• 1:16:58
  writing.
• 1:17:00
  And
• 1:17:00
  then
• 1:17:00
  give
• 1:17:00
  yourself
• 1:17:01
  time,
• 1:17:01
  which
• 1:17:01
  again
• 1:17:01
  is
• 1:17:01
  the
• 1:17:02
  second
• 1:17:02
  most
• 1:17:02
  annoying
• 1:17:02
  thing
• 1:17:03
  someone
• 1:17:03
  can
• 1:17:03
  say
• 1:17:03
  because
• 1:17:04
  if
• 1:17:04
  you're
• 1:17:04
  excited
• 1:17:05
  and
• 1:17:06
  you're
• 1:17:06
  impatient,
• 1:17:07
  time
• 1:17:07
  is
• 1:17:07
  not
• 1:17:08
  your
• 1:17:08
  friend.
• 1:17:08
  But
• 1:17:09
  it,
• 1:17:09
  it
• 1:17:10
  is
• 1:17:10
  important,
• 1:17:11
  I
• 1:17:11
  think
• 1:17:11
  for
• 1:17:12
  your
• 1:17:12
  brain
• 1:17:13
  and
• 1:17:14
  you
• 1:17:14
  still
• 1:17:14
  have
• 1:17:14
  a
• 1:17:14
  life.
• 1:17:15
  Unless
• 1:17:15
  this
• 1:17:15
  is
• 1:17:15
  your
• 1:17:16
  sole
• 1:17:17
  job,
• 1:17:18
  your
• 1:17:18
  sole
• 1:17:19
  purpose,
• 1:17:20
  you
• 1:17:20
  have
• 1:17:21
  other
• 1:17:21
  priorities.
• 1:17:22
  And
• 1:17:23
  as
• 1:17:24
  we've
• 1:17:24
  mentioned
• 1:17:25
  throughout
• 1:17:25
  the
• 1:17:25
  podcast,
• 1:17:26
  there
• 1:17:26
  are
• 1:17:26
  then
• 1:17:27
  so
• 1:17:27
  many
• 1:17:28
  elements
• 1:17:28
  to
• 1:17:28
  this
• 1:17:28
  that
• 1:17:29
  it
• 1:17:29
  could,
• 1:17:29
  then
• 1:17:29
  you
• 1:17:29
  could
• 1:17:30
  very
• 1:17:30
  quickly
• 1:17:30
  fall
• 1:17:30
  out
• 1:17:31
  love
• 1:17:32
  with
• 1:17:32
  this,
• 1:17:32
  for
• 1:17:33
  sure.
• 1:17:34
  Encouragement
• 1:17:35
  for
• 1:17:35
  readers.
• 1:17:35
  So
• 1:17:36
  tell
• 1:17:36
  Us
• 1:17:36
  why
• 1:17:38
  someone
• 1:17:38
  should
• 1:17:38
  purchase
• 1:17:39
  your
• 1:17:39
  book.
• 1:17:40
  Oh,
• 1:17:41
  why?
• 1:17:42
  Why
• 1:17:42
  wouldn't
• 1:17:43
  you
• 1:17:43
  now
• 1:17:43
  want
• 1:17:43
  to
• 1:17:43
  know
• 1:17:44
  about
• 1:17:44
  Galloping
• 1:17:45
  Frog?
• 1:17:45
  It's
• 1:17:45
  a
• 1:17:46
  fun
• 1:17:46
  read.
• 1:17:47
  I
• 1:17:47
  say,
• 1:17:47
  if
• 1:17:48
  anyone
• 1:17:48
  enjoys
• 1:17:48
  Dr.
• 1:17:49
  Seuss,
• 1:17:49
  I
• 1:17:49
  took
• 1:17:49
  a
• 1:17:49
  lot
• 1:17:50
  of
• 1:17:50
  inspiration
• 1:17:51
  from
• 1:17:52
  those
• 1:17:52
  books.
• 1:17:53
  I
• 1:17:53
  think
• 1:17:53
  it
• 1:17:53
  also
• 1:17:54
  has
• 1:17:54
  a
• 1:17:54
  bit
• 1:17:54
  of
• 1:17:54
  a
• 1:17:54
  Gruffalo
• 1:17:55
  type
• 1:17:56
  feel
• 1:17:56
  to
• 1:17:57
  it
• 1:17:57
  of
• 1:17:57
  people
• 1:17:58
  going
• 1:17:58
  through
• 1:17:58
  the
• 1:17:58
  woods
• 1:17:58
  and
• 1:17:59
  finding
• 1:17:59
  out
• 1:17:59
  clues.
• 1:18:00
  So
• 1:18:01
  it's
• 1:18:01
  fun,
• 1:18:02
  it
• 1:18:02
  rhymes.
• 1:18:03
  It's
• 1:18:04
  got
• 1:18:04
  the
• 1:18:04
  one
• 1:18:04
  frog
• 1:18:05
  band,
• 1:18:05
  which
• 1:18:05
  people
• 1:18:06
  now
• 1:18:06
  know,
• 1:18:06
  but
• 1:18:06
  it's
• 1:18:07
  got
• 1:18:07
  that
• 1:18:07
  moral
• 1:18:07
  of
• 1:18:08
  the
• 1:18:08
  story.
• 1:18:09
  The
• 1:18:09
  illustrations
• 1:18:10
  are
• 1:18:10
  beautiful
• 1:18:11
  and
• 1:18:13
  yeah,
• 1:18:13
  just.
• 1:18:13
  I
• 1:18:14
  don't
• 1:18:14
  know,
• 1:18:14
  it
• 1:18:14
  would
• 1:18:14
  be
• 1:18:14
  nice
• 1:18:15
  for
• 1:18:15
  my
• 1:18:16
  granddad's
• 1:18:16
  story
• 1:18:17
  to
• 1:18:17
  just
• 1:18:17
  carry
• 1:18:17
  on.
• 1:18:18
  And
• 1:18:18
  I
• 1:18:18
  put
• 1:18:18
  on
• 1:18:19
  social
• 1:18:19
  media
• 1:18:19
  the
• 1:18:20
  other
• 1:18:20
  day
• 1:18:20
  when
• 1:18:20
  I
• 1:18:20
  said,
• 1:18:20
  oh,
• 1:18:21
  we've
• 1:18:21
  sold
• 1:18:21
  over
• 1:18:21
  a
• 1:18:21
  hundred
• 1:18:22
  books,
• 1:18:23
  let's
• 1:18:23
  see
• 1:18:24
  how
• 1:18:24
  far
• 1:18:24
  in
• 1:18:25
  the
• 1:18:25
  world
• 1:18:25
  the
• 1:18:26
  Galloping
• 1:18:26
  Frog
• 1:18:26
  can
• 1:18:26
  gallop.
• 1:18:27
  That's
• 1:18:27
  terrific.
• 1:18:28
  And
• 1:18:28
  it's
• 1:18:29
  fantastic
• 1:18:29
  because
• 1:18:31
  it's
• 1:18:31
  a
• 1:18:32
  love
• 1:18:32
  from
• 1:18:32
  your
• 1:18:32
  heart
• 1:18:33
  for
• 1:18:33
  your
• 1:18:33
  grandfather
• 1:18:34
  and
• 1:18:35
  that's
• 1:18:35
  pretty
• 1:18:35
  darn
• 1:18:36
  special.
• 1:18:37
  Welcome.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah,
• 1:18:38
  I
• 1:18:38
  think
• 1:18:38
  he
• 1:18:38
  would
• 1:18:39
  be
• 1:18:39
  laughing
• 1:18:40
  a
• 1:18:40
  lot.
• 1:18:41
  I
• 1:18:41
  think
• 1:18:41
  this
• 1:18:41
  would
• 1:18:42
  be
• 1:18:42
  right
• 1:18:42
  up
• 1:18:42
  his
• 1:18:42
  street.
• 1:18:43
  So
• 1:18:43
  that's
• 1:18:43
  terrific.
• 1:18:44
  Final
• 1:18:45
  thoughts?
• 1:18:45
  Is
• 1:18:45
  there
• 1:18:46
  something
• 1:18:46
  you
• 1:18:46
  said?
• 1:18:47
  Oh,
• 1:18:47
  geez,
• 1:18:47
  I
• 1:18:47
  wish
• 1:18:47
  Rick
• 1:18:48
  would
• 1:18:48
  have
• 1:18:48
  asked
• 1:18:48
  me
• 1:18:48
  that
• 1:18:49
  question.
• 1:18:49
  Is
• 1:18:49
  there
• 1:18:50
  final
• 1:18:50
  thoughts?
• 1:18:51
  Something
• 1:18:51
  I
• 1:18:51
  should
• 1:18:52
  have
• 1:18:52
  asked
• 1:18:52
  you
• 1:18:52
  or
• 1:18:53
  something
• 1:18:53
  you'd
• 1:18:53
  like
• 1:18:53
  to
• 1:18:53
  share?
• 1:18:55
  I
• 1:18:55
  think
• 1:18:56
  we
• 1:18:56
  have
• 1:18:56
  covered
• 1:18:57
  all
• 1:18:58
  of
• 1:18:58
  it
• 1:18:58
  because
• 1:18:58
  I
• 1:18:58
  really
• 1:18:59
  wanted
• 1:18:59
  to
• 1:18:59
  share
• 1:19:00
  about
• 1:19:00
  the
• 1:19:01
  email
• 1:19:02
  because
• 1:19:02
  I
• 1:19:03
  just
• 1:19:03
  think
• 1:19:03
  that
• 1:19:03
  is
• 1:19:04
  amazing
• 1:19:05
  that
• 1:19:05
  we
• 1:19:05
  could
• 1:19:05
  communicate
• 1:19:06
  across
• 1:19:07
  time
• 1:19:07
  zones,
• 1:19:07
  me
• 1:19:08
  and
• 1:19:08
  my
• 1:19:08
  uncle,
• 1:19:08
  via
• 1:19:09
  email.
• 1:19:10
  It
• 1:19:10
  just
• 1:19:10
  shows
• 1:19:11
  what
• 1:19:11
  you
• 1:19:11
  can
• 1:19:12
  do.
• 1:19:12
  Yes.
• 1:19:13
  And
• 1:19:13
  it's
• 1:19:13
  the
• 1:19:13
  same
• 1:19:14
  with
• 1:19:14
  the
• 1:19:14
  plushie
• 1:19:14
  now.
• 1:19:15
  Exactly.
• 1:19:16
  I
• 1:19:16
  never
• 1:19:16
  talk
• 1:19:17
  to
• 1:19:17
  a
• 1:19:17
  person
• 1:19:18
  once
• 1:19:18
  I
• 1:19:18
  have
• 1:19:19
  a
• 1:19:19
  contact,
• 1:19:20
  but
• 1:19:20
  it
• 1:19:20
  was
• 1:19:20
  all
• 1:19:21
  email
• 1:19:21
  and
• 1:19:22
  even
• 1:19:22
  taking
• 1:19:22
  the
• 1:19:23
  pictures
• 1:19:23
  and
• 1:19:24
  sending
• 1:19:24
  them
• 1:19:25
  to
• 1:19:25
  him.
• 1:19:25
  And
• 1:19:26
  then
• 1:19:26
  from
• 1:19:26
  there
• 1:19:27
  they
• 1:19:27
  developed
• 1:19:29
  the
• 1:19:30
  smiley.
• 1:19:31
  Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  Which
• 1:19:32
  is
• 1:19:32
  brilliant.
• 1:19:32
  So
• 1:19:33
  I
• 1:19:33
  think
• 1:19:33
  we've
• 1:19:33
  got
• 1:19:33
  that.
• 1:19:34
  That
• 1:19:34
  the
• 1:19:34
  techno
• 1:19:35
  technology
• 1:19:35
  is
• 1:19:35
  your
• 1:19:35
  friend.
• 1:19:36
  And
• 1:19:36
  I
• 1:19:36
  think,
• 1:19:36
  as
• 1:19:37
  I
• 1:19:37
  say,
• 1:19:37
  I
• 1:19:37
  used
• 1:19:37
  AI
• 1:19:38
  to
• 1:19:38
  help
• 1:19:38
  me
• 1:19:39
  understand
• 1:19:39
  Amazon,
• 1:19:40
  Kindle
• 1:19:41
  Publishing,
• 1:19:41
  because
• 1:19:41
  I
• 1:19:42
  went
• 1:19:42
  onto
• 1:19:42
  the.
• 1:19:42
  And
• 1:19:43
  if
• 1:19:43
  you
• 1:19:43
  go
• 1:19:43
  onto
• 1:19:43
  their
• 1:19:44
  website,
• 1:19:45
  it's
• 1:19:45
  an
• 1:19:45
  awful
• 1:19:45
  website
• 1:19:46
  and
• 1:19:47
  it's
• 1:19:47
  very
• 1:19:47
  overwhelming,
• 1:19:48
  it's
• 1:19:48
  very
• 1:19:49
  daunting.
• 1:19:50
  So
• 1:19:51
  I
• 1:19:52
  used
• 1:19:52
  AI
• 1:19:53
  to
• 1:19:53
  say,
• 1:19:53
  can
• 1:19:53
  you
• 1:19:54
  just
• 1:19:54
  explain
• 1:19:54
  to
• 1:19:55
  me,
• 1:19:55
  as
• 1:19:55
  if
• 1:19:56
  I'm
• 1:19:56
  5
• 1:19:56
  years
• 1:19:56
  old
• 1:19:57
  how
• 1:19:57
  I
• 1:19:58
  go
• 1:19:58
  about
• 1:19:58
  uploading
• 1:19:59
  a
• 1:19:59
  book
• 1:19:59
  to
• 1:19:59
  this
• 1:19:59
  system?
• 1:20:00
  And
• 1:20:00
  it
• 1:20:00
  taught
• 1:20:01
  me
• 1:20:01
  through
• 1:20:01
  step
• 1:20:01
  by
• 1:20:01
  step.
• 1:20:02
  So
• 1:20:03
  use
• 1:20:03
  technology
• 1:20:03
  to
• 1:20:04
  help
• 1:20:04
  you.
• 1:20:05
  You
• 1:20:05
  can
• 1:20:05
  do
• 1:20:05
  literally
• 1:20:06
  all
• 1:20:06
  of
• 1:20:06
  this
• 1:20:07
  as
• 1:20:07
  close
• 1:20:07
  to
• 1:20:08
  free
• 1:20:08
  as
• 1:20:08
  possible
• 1:20:09
  and
• 1:20:10
  then
• 1:20:10
  have
• 1:20:10
  fun
• 1:20:11
  and
• 1:20:11
  have
• 1:20:12
  fun.
• 1:20:12
  I
• 1:20:12
  love
• 1:20:12
  that.
• 1:20:13
  Charis,
• 1:20:14
  thank
• 1:20:14
  you
• 1:20:15
  very
• 1:20:15
  much
• 1:20:15
  for
• 1:20:15
  being
• 1:20:15
  a
• 1:20:16
  guest
• 1:20:16
  on
• 1:20:16
  the
• 1:20:16
  Adventures
• 1:20:17
  in
• 1:20:17
  the
• 1:20:17
  Heart
• 1:20:17
  of
• 1:20:17
  Children's
• 1:20:18
  Book
• 1:20:18
  Authors.
• 1:20:19
  Your
• 1:20:20
  generosity
• 1:20:20
  of
• 1:20:21
  time.
• 1:20:21
  I
• 1:20:21
  really
• 1:20:21
  appreciate
• 1:20:22
  that
• 1:20:22
  your
• 1:20:23
  insights
• 1:20:24
  and
• 1:20:24
  your
• 1:20:24
  passion
• 1:20:25
  and
• 1:20:25
  your
• 1:20:26
  inspiration
• 1:20:26
  on
• 1:20:27
  how
• 1:20:27
  took
• 1:20:28
  the
• 1:20:28
  love
• 1:20:28
  of
• 1:20:29
  your
• 1:20:29
  grandfather
• 1:20:29
  and
• 1:20:30
  your
• 1:20:30
  interaction
• 1:20:31
  with
• 1:20:31
  him
• 1:20:31
  and
• 1:20:32
  turned
• 1:20:32
  it
• 1:20:32
  into
• 1:20:32
  a
• 1:20:33
  children's
• 1:20:33
  book
• 1:20:33
  is
• 1:20:34
  just
• 1:20:35
  really
• 1:20:35
  inspirational.
• 1:20:36
  And
• 1:20:37
  we
• 1:20:37
  promised
• 1:20:37
  to
• 1:20:37
  provide
• 1:20:38
  the
• 1:20:38
  audience
• 1:20:38
  with
• 1:20:39
  links
• 1:20:39
  to
• 1:20:40
  Charis's
• 1:20:40
  social
• 1:20:41
  media
• 1:20:42
  and
• 1:20:43
  if
• 1:20:43
  you've
• 1:20:43
  enjoyed
• 1:20:44
  this
• 1:20:44
  episode,
• 1:20:44
  if
• 1:20:44
  you
• 1:20:45
  could
• 1:20:45
  hit
• 1:20:45
  the
• 1:20:45
  subscribe
• 1:20:46
  button
• 1:20:47
  to
• 1:20:47
  listen
• 1:20:47
  to
• 1:20:47
  future
• 1:20:48
  episodes.
• 1:20:49
  And
• 1:20:49
  feel
• 1:20:50
  free
• 1:20:50
  to
• 1:20:50
  share
• 1:20:50
  this
• 1:20:51
  episode
• 1:20:51
  with
• 1:20:52
  anyone
• 1:20:52
  inspired
• 1:20:54
  by
• 1:20:54
  or
• 1:20:54
  and
• 1:20:54
  who
• 1:20:55
  enjoys
• 1:20:55
  hearing
• 1:20:55
  about
• 1:20:56
  Charis
• 1:20:57
  and
• 1:20:57
  her
• 1:20:57
  children's
• 1:20:58
  book,
• 1:20:58
  the
• 1:20:58
  Galloping
• 1:21:00
  Frog.
• 1:21:01
  Thanks
• 1:21:01
  Charis.
• 1:21:01
  Thank
• 1:21:02
  you.
• 1:21:02
  Thank
• 1:21:02
  you,
• 1:21:02
  Rick.
• 1:21:03
  Thank
• 1:21:03
  you
• 1:21:03
  for
• 1:21:03
  having
• 1:21:03
  me.
• 1:21:03
  And
• 1:21:04
  thank
• 1:21:04
  you
• 1:21:04
  to
• 1:21:04
  everyone
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  for
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  listening.