Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Kenan Thompson Opens Up About Parenting, Leaving Nickelodeon, Kel Mitchell, Katt Williams + More
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- 1:26Speaker 2: Morning's the Breakfast Club? Morning, everybody, It's the j n V.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. You got
- 1:33Speaker 1: a special guest in.
- 1:34Speaker 2: The building, the legendary Ken and Thompson. Ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:36Speaker 2: welcome man, Thank you very much.
- 1:39Speaker 4: Good one of my brothers.
- 1:40Speaker 5: You feeling and we're checking in man, Happy Black History month?
- 1:45Speaker 3: History Month. How you feeling thrill? My brother? How you
- 1:48Speaker 3: feeling like energy? Like great?
- 1:50Speaker 5: My energy is great, man. Like you know, we're having
- 1:52Speaker 5: another good season over there. It's forty nine, about to
- 1:55Speaker 5: be the fiftieth. It's getting real over there, man, That
- 1:58Speaker 5: fiftieth celebration. I think it's going to be big, was
- 2:02Speaker 5: a lot of people.
- 2:02Speaker 6: So think about Keenan, you wouldn't even know if he
- 2:05Speaker 6: was doing bad. Keenan the meatia is always the same.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Tourist, energy man. Let me take my glasses.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Good.
- 2:18Speaker 7: I would go to ask, you know, when you see
- 2:19Speaker 7: so many things pop up on social on this.
- 2:22Speaker 4: World is it?
- 2:23Speaker 2: I guess it's good for you because you're like, oh, yeah,
- 2:25Speaker 2: this is it.
- 2:26Speaker 5: This is yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, I mean characters
- 2:30Speaker 5: in the world or events in the world definitely help,
- 2:34Speaker 5: you know, kind of trigger ideas and stuff like that,
- 2:38Speaker 5: especially the crazier the better, or anybody that sounds funny
- 2:41Speaker 5: the better. But at the same time, you know, it's
- 2:45Speaker 5: hard on comedy these days. You know, you gotta like
- 2:48Speaker 5: really be smart about your approach, especially you know, depending
- 2:52Speaker 5: on the topic and stuff like that. You know, I
- 2:54Speaker 5: don't really go out there to offend people necessarily, but
- 2:57Speaker 5: sometimes it happens, and you know you gotta like learn
- 3:01Speaker 5: from it, hopefully and just move on, you know, knowing
- 3:04Speaker 5: that you know your intentions were good in the first place.
- 3:07Speaker 5: Kind of thing, like we're just trying to heal basically,
- 3:09Speaker 5: that's what That's what comedy's supposed to be doing.
- 3:11Speaker 7: Is there anything that you won't touch or that y'all
- 3:13Speaker 7: come together and be like this would be funny, but
- 3:16Speaker 7: not right now?
- 3:17Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean especially you know, we on network TV,
- 3:19Speaker 5: so it's not like we can just you know, say
- 3:21Speaker 5: and do whatever. But at the same time, you know,
- 3:24Speaker 5: some topics it might be too early to be trying
- 3:27Speaker 5: to you know, find a laugh on kind of thing.
- 3:29Speaker 5: And you know, some certain topics ain't nothing funny about it.
- 3:32Speaker 6: So like too soon, like Donna Rowlins like to say,
- 3:34Speaker 6: too soon. You think there are some too soon topics.
- 3:37Speaker 5: You know, there's definitely I mean, Gilb but Godfrey killed
- 3:41Speaker 5: his career with that, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 3:42Speaker 5: I don't remember when we tweeted something about like nine
- 3:46Speaker 5: to eleven or something, and it was just like, you know,
- 3:49Speaker 5: there's no reason to like try to be the first
- 3:51Speaker 5: one with a joke on that topic necessarily, and it'll
- 3:55Speaker 5: probably be too soon for two hundred years kind of thing, you.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Know, just because it was such a large tragedy.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Bringing up people old tweets. Can it don't do peace?
- 4:04Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But like that was that,
- 4:07Speaker 4: But that's cool. It was.
- 4:10Speaker 5: It was not anymore. So yeah, you gotta be just
- 4:14Speaker 5: gotta be smart about it.
- 4:16Speaker 6: And you know, you got a new book out. When
- 4:17Speaker 6: I was your age, I should have brought the book.
- 4:19Speaker 3: I wanted to hear us to have it propped up.
- 4:21Speaker 6: I'm slipping when I was your age, Life lessons, funny
- 4:24Speaker 6: stories and questionable parenting advice from a professional clown. First
- 4:28Speaker 6: of all, what made you want to write a book?
- 4:29Speaker 6: Because you always have been a very private person.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the longest title ever.
- 4:36Speaker 5: I just felt it was time, you know, like a
- 4:38Speaker 5: lot of people, I guess in my position, a lot
- 4:40Speaker 5: of my heroes have written.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Books, you know what I'm saying.
- 4:42Speaker 5: You got seven two yea working on third, so uh yeah,
- 4:48Speaker 5: and people approached me. I was just trying to, you know,
- 4:50Speaker 5: make sure I had enough to talk about it for
- 4:53Speaker 5: like people that actually read books, you know. And luckily
- 4:56Speaker 5: I worked with a great collaborator, DIBs Bear shout Out,
- 5:00Speaker 5: you know, and yeah, we put together a pretty good book.
- 5:04Speaker 5: From what I'm hearing, like the people that have read
- 5:05Speaker 5: it seem to enjoy it, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:07Speaker 5: It's not like three hundred pages or nothing, you know,
- 5:09Speaker 5: which was kind of strange. I'm like, damn, that's my
- 5:12Speaker 5: life story, so you know, but it has definitely been,
- 5:19Speaker 5: you know, a really cool thing to share with the
- 5:21Speaker 5: world and you know, tell my story to my parents'
- 5:24Speaker 5: story and you know, siblings, you know what I'm saying,
- 5:26Speaker 5: and like let people, you know, kind of know the
- 5:30Speaker 5: real me, the origin story kind of thing that I
- 5:32Speaker 5: don't necessarily get to tell on you know, talk shows
- 5:34Speaker 5: and stuff like that, because you usually want to just
- 5:36Speaker 5: talk about the current thing you're there to promote or whatever.
- 5:39Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a cool experience.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Explain the long ass title because it's a lot there.
- 5:43Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's just like I guess I've been
- 5:47Speaker 5: doing it for so long that I had, you know,
- 5:49Speaker 5: a lot to kind of display, you know what I'm saying.
- 5:51Speaker 5: So I had to kind of explain what my position
- 5:54Speaker 5: is in this world so far in a capturing kind
- 5:57Speaker 5: of title and kind of tell people like what the
- 6:00Speaker 5: bo kids so they want to grab it and read it,
- 6:02Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And like that's probably why
- 6:04Speaker 5: the title is it's so lengthy, but you know, it's
- 6:07Speaker 5: also some comedy there, because yeah, it is so long
- 6:10Speaker 5: and yeah, the good word ise of like being a
- 6:12Speaker 5: professional clown and stuff like that. You know, like I
- 6:15Speaker 5: take that really seriously, like I'm an actor, you know,
- 6:17Speaker 5: so like when I'm clowning around, it's usually for higher
- 6:21Speaker 5: kind of thing, you know, as you can see, like
- 6:23Speaker 5: my demeanor is pretty pretty level, you say, like I
- 6:26Speaker 5: don't really even be getting stressed out on my demeanor
- 6:29Speaker 5: doesn't change much.
- 6:30Speaker 4: But yeah, big tourist energy over here, you know what
- 6:33Speaker 4: I'm saying.
- 6:33Speaker 6: And like, but you don't seem hard headed though most
- 6:35Speaker 6: touruses I know hard headed.
- 6:37Speaker 5: I get stubborn about when I think I'm right, you
- 6:39Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, But like, no, I'm very good
- 6:41Speaker 5: with the flow kind of thing.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Do your kids take you serious?
- 6:44Speaker 7: Or they always see daddy as the clown and the
- 6:46Speaker 7: joke and the laster.
- 6:48Speaker 5: I'm the clown and I'm definitely in their way, you
- 6:50Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like I'm in their way for
- 6:52Speaker 5: having fun or whatever they want to do. Like you know,
- 6:54Speaker 5: when they're around their friends, they don't want, you know,
- 6:56Speaker 5: old fuddy daddies around them, you know, so they definitely
- 7:00Speaker 5: think they're funnier than me, and they probably are. Like
- 7:03Speaker 5: they definitely like make me laugh. But that's that dynamic.
- 7:07Speaker 5: You know, You're you could be you know, Michael Jordan's
- 7:10Speaker 5: son and think that your dad just only plays basketball
- 7:13Speaker 5: as opposed to being Michael Jordan.
- 7:14Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, why do you call your advice, your
- 7:17Speaker 6: parenting advice questionable?
- 7:19Speaker 3: I was that your parents advice was questionable, which one
- 7:21Speaker 3: of the.
- 7:22Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably mine, you know, just you know,
- 7:26Speaker 5: coming from a place where like I don't know everything
- 7:28Speaker 5: right away, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just
- 7:30Speaker 5: figuring it out kind of on the fly as the girls.
- 7:32Speaker 6: Basically, Yeah, but we all are though, Like being a
- 7:36Speaker 6: parent is on the job training. Like there's no manual
- 7:39Speaker 6: for parenting. So I don't even beat myself up when
- 7:41Speaker 6: I don't get it right. Actually, I'll apologize to my
- 7:44Speaker 6: kids and try to do try to do better next time, exactly.
- 7:47Speaker 4: That's it.
- 7:48Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean when you when you give advice
- 7:51Speaker 5: to people, it's not like I want to be like,
- 7:53Speaker 5: you know, I'm the official voice.
- 7:55Speaker 4: On parenting kind of thing, you know what I'm saying.
- 7:57Speaker 5: So you should be able to question like what I'm
- 8:00Speaker 5: offering kind of to the world if it doesn't work.
- 8:02Speaker 5: For you and your household kind of thing, you know
- 8:04Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like I'm not trying to.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Like tell everybody exactly what to do with their kids.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Basically, would you want your kids to get in this industry?
- 8:11Speaker 4: Sure?
- 8:12Speaker 5: I mean if they take it seriously, you know what
- 8:13Speaker 5: I mean, Like I got drama faces tatted on my back,
- 8:15Speaker 5: you know, so I take it very seriously. And growing up,
- 8:19Speaker 5: it was you know, there wasn't no automatic you know,
- 8:22Speaker 5: there wasn't as many platforms as there are now so many, like,
- 8:25Speaker 5: you know, different kind of ways to get into the business.
- 8:28Speaker 4: It was very specific. You audition, they.
- 8:31Speaker 5: Tell you yes or no, you know, and coming from Atlanta,
- 8:33Speaker 5: the auditions were less and less. It was mostly commercials
- 8:37Speaker 5: or theater stuff like that, which I'm grateful for because
- 8:41Speaker 5: like my theater training is like, you know, that's everything,
- 8:44Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that taught me everything
- 8:46Speaker 5: about being an actor and being around other actors that
- 8:50Speaker 5: have been in the business a long time, you know,
- 8:52Speaker 5: done a movie here and there, some Spike Lee joints
- 8:54Speaker 5: or whatever. But when you're in between the times, that's
- 8:57Speaker 5: when it's like your real dedication, you know, through because
- 9:01Speaker 5: being a starving artist is no joke, you know what
- 9:04Speaker 5: I'm saying, And it's a reality for I would say
- 9:08Speaker 5: more than the majority of people you know in the business,
- 9:11Speaker 5: Like like a lot of people are like living like
- 9:14Speaker 5: check to check, especially if you don't know how to
- 9:15Speaker 5: subsidize with another job.
- 9:17Speaker 4: So, yeah, you.
- 9:19Speaker 6: Got a chapter title called I'm Glad I went broke?
- 9:22Speaker 6: When did that happen? You've been You've been working since
- 9:25Speaker 6: at least nine and.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Foul, yo, Yeah, like I've been blessed to continue working.
- 9:30Speaker 5: But yeah, I had a bad accountant and it came
- 9:33Speaker 5: to the light around ninety nine, like around two thousand,
- 9:37Speaker 5: which was really bad timing because that's right when I
- 9:39Speaker 5: left my consistent gig, you.
- 9:41Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
- 9:42Speaker 5: So then I went into being an adult actor for hire,
- 9:46Speaker 5: and that is very.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Hit and miss.
- 9:49Speaker 5: So there was, you know, some good jobs like I
- 9:51Speaker 5: did Felicity that was cool, And I got to meet
- 9:54Speaker 5: jj Abrams when he was young, you know what I'm saying,
- 9:56Speaker 5: And that's like a priceless kind of a friendship, I
- 9:59Speaker 5: would say, just because he's grown to be, you know,
- 10:02Speaker 5: such a major force in the industry.
- 10:05Speaker 4: But it was like six months until love Don't Cost
- 10:08Speaker 4: a thing, you know what I mean.
- 10:09Speaker 5: I was happy to get love don't cause things. My
- 10:11Speaker 5: brother Nick's movie, Yeah, we had in my house, you
- 10:15Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
- 10:15Speaker 4: I was like, yeah at your house.
- 10:17Speaker 5: Yeah, I was ridding this house that had a bunch
- 10:19Speaker 5: of space or whatever. But you know, we was young,
- 10:23Speaker 5: so it was like, yeah, move all the furniture, the silence,
- 10:25Speaker 5: just you know, throw a party and like invite everybody
- 10:27Speaker 5: kind of thing back in those days.
- 10:29Speaker 4: So that was fun.
- 10:30Speaker 5: But it was still broke, you know what I mean,
- 10:32Speaker 5: like just money enough for the rent kind of thing.
- 10:34Speaker 5: And yeah that you know, the account was was dirty,
- 10:38Speaker 5: and I ended up not letting that be the end
- 10:41Speaker 5: all be all of what my life is going to be.
- 10:43Speaker 4: So I just you know, moved back to Calamn and continue.
- 10:45Speaker 3: How much did they account and get you for.
- 10:46Speaker 4: A million and a half? Damn something like that.
- 10:50Speaker 5: I mean that was you know, my contractual like deal
- 10:54Speaker 5: at the time or whatever. But for like overall, Nick, yeah,
- 10:59Speaker 5: for a few years or whatever, and then yeah, I
- 11:01Speaker 5: never saw none of it.
- 11:03Speaker 3: So you that ain't funny. You walked away from you
- 11:08Speaker 3: over there about that point, So you walked.
- 11:11Speaker 6: Away from Nickelodeon the overall deal, I was just up,
- 11:16Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 11:17Speaker 5: You didn't feel like, you know, we wanted to continue
- 11:20Speaker 5: like Kenannickhill to college, like we couldn't figure it out basically,
- 11:24Speaker 5: and we were just like, I think we should just
- 11:25Speaker 5: go figure out what it looks like for us to.
- 11:27Speaker 4: Be adult performers for the world.
- 11:30Speaker 5: And it was just like reproving grounds as almost like
- 11:32Speaker 5: it was almost like starting over, you know, because like
- 11:34Speaker 5: everybody wanted to treat us like kids or keep us
- 11:36Speaker 5: in a category or whatever, and we just had to
- 11:39Speaker 5: like learn how to prove ourselves. And for me, you know,
- 11:42Speaker 5: SNL was that the biggest bridge, you know, as far
- 11:45Speaker 5: as like adults taking me seriously as an adult because
- 11:48Speaker 5: we were already grown, you know, we was in our twenties,
- 11:50Speaker 5: you know, so we didn't want to be like thirty
- 11:53Speaker 5: years old still trying to play a kid on Nickelodeon.
- 11:56Speaker 5: And yeah, the time end of that was just it
- 11:58Speaker 5: was just crazy. So it was a couple of years
- 12:00Speaker 5: of like, man, I don't know about this whole like,
- 12:03Speaker 5: you know, one job here, one job there, like every
- 12:06Speaker 5: few months kind of thing, because the bills come, you
- 12:08Speaker 5: know what I mean, every month, no matter what and yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 5: you know, thank god, life goes in the cycle. So
- 12:15Speaker 5: when I was feeling down, I would, you know, get
- 12:18Speaker 5: a gig, and that would like, you know, start trending upward,
- 12:21Speaker 5: and then you know, trending further up from loved on
- 12:23Speaker 5: cost Thin to the barber shop too, you know what
- 12:24Speaker 5: I mean. And then Barbershop too, left there and like
- 12:27Speaker 5: went to audition from enc and out, like do.
- 12:28Speaker 2: You remember that when you auditioned and they called you
- 12:30Speaker 2: back and said you got the part?
- 12:31Speaker 4: Do you remember that one?
- 12:33Speaker 5: Because it was a long process, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 12:36Speaker 5: came to New York straight from Chicago from shooting barber Shop,
- 12:39Speaker 5: like feeling great or whatever, and then seeing what you
- 12:41Speaker 5: up against and it was every black comic you could
- 12:44Speaker 5: even possibly think of. Right, So I had to do
- 12:47Speaker 5: stand up at the stand Up New York. I had
- 12:49Speaker 5: never done I stand up before. It was a nightmare.
- 12:52Speaker 5: And then I saw Call and I hadn't seen him
- 12:53Speaker 5: in a while, you know what I'm saying, Like at
- 12:55Speaker 5: the audition and that was awkward, but it was like,
- 12:57Speaker 5: you know, good luck, good luck or whatever. And then
- 13:01Speaker 5: I did three minutes of something terrible because I wasn't
- 13:04Speaker 5: a stand up comic. I didn't know how to address
- 13:06Speaker 5: the crowd at all. I think I just started with.
- 13:08Speaker 2: That was part of the audition.
- 13:09Speaker 3: You had to do stand up. Yeah, you walked up
- 13:11Speaker 3: there was like HI.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Said Hi.
- 13:14Speaker 5: I think I just went right into like ol shopping
- 13:16Speaker 5: or something like talking to Arnold Schwazennigga, you know what
- 13:19Speaker 5: I mean, just like like a kid in his own room,
- 13:23Speaker 5: basically like playing in the mirror kind of thing. And yeah,
- 13:26Speaker 5: it didn't go well, but they saw something and I
- 13:29Speaker 5: got a call back that was in the studio that
- 13:31Speaker 5: felt more comfortable.
- 13:32Speaker 4: I was used to that, you know what I mean.
- 13:34Speaker 5: So I did that same kind of stick with a
- 13:35Speaker 5: couple more minutes added on or whatever. And then I
- 13:38Speaker 5: went home for a week and didn't hear nothing, you
- 13:40Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that was just like torture.
- 13:42Speaker 5: Thought it was rat I thought it was over. I
- 13:43Speaker 5: thought I ruining. And you know, SNL was one of
- 13:45Speaker 5: those jobs. If you don't get it, you live with that,
- 13:48Speaker 5: you know, kind of for the rest of your life,
- 13:50Speaker 5: or if things go left when you do get it,
- 13:52Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that's not an experience
- 13:54Speaker 5: you really just forget or like be like, oh that's
- 13:57Speaker 5: in the past.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I could just move on like it stays with you, you know.
- 14:00Speaker 4: So yeah, that week was torturing. And then they called.
- 14:02Speaker 5: They were like, all right, we want you to try
- 14:04Speaker 5: one more time at the Live Factory.
- 14:06Speaker 4: I was like, more stand up, you know.
- 14:07Speaker 3: What I mean, Why didn't you just tell him I'm
- 14:09Speaker 3: not a stand up.
- 14:10Speaker 4: I didn't want to rock the boat, you know what
- 14:12Speaker 4: I mean, trying to.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Get a job stand up.
- 14:15Speaker 6: Stand up is the most difficult thing I feel like
- 14:17Speaker 6: anybody can do in comedy.
- 14:18Speaker 4: It really is.
- 14:19Speaker 5: And I also wasn't really aware of the second city
- 14:23Speaker 5: and groundings of it all because I'm at an improper
- 14:25Speaker 5: I just like started working, you know, from like age twelve,
- 14:28Speaker 5: you know, from doing commercials to theater to you know,
- 14:32Speaker 5: movies or whatever. So I didn't really have a chance
- 14:34Speaker 5: to like go to school for performing necessarily, like that
- 14:37Speaker 5: was my school. So yeah, more stand up and I
- 14:41Speaker 5: you know, I didn't want to rock the boat. And
- 14:43Speaker 5: it was a terrible night for me because the other
- 14:47Speaker 5: four people were actually stand ups, you know what I mean,
- 14:49Speaker 5: And they were killed JB. Smooth for Ness Mitchell, you
- 14:53Speaker 5: know what I mean. D Ray It was you know,
- 14:55Speaker 5: it was a lineup and they was destroying.
- 14:57Speaker 4: And then I went up there and did my little
- 14:59Speaker 4: bullshit and like.
- 15:00Speaker 2: What were you were you first? Were you fourth?
- 15:02Speaker 4: For your second? I was last?
- 15:05Speaker 3: You went after d ray JB and Mitchell Yes.
- 15:08Speaker 4: Christ yeah, and Kyle Grooms and like Kyle Room.
- 15:12Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Kyle, but I know Kyle was in
- 15:14Speaker 5: New York, but I think he was in LA too,
- 15:16Speaker 5: But I know I went last after a bunch of
- 15:19Speaker 5: brilliant for Front for Comics, and I was so nervous. Man,
- 15:23Speaker 5: I was drinking out the sink because that was the
- 15:26Speaker 5: bathroom and like the bar was over there, so I
- 15:28Speaker 5: didn't want to like go back and forth, you know
- 15:30Speaker 5: what I mean, like interrupt or anything like that.
- 15:32Speaker 3: So you really really wanted to kill it, but you
- 15:33Speaker 3: couldn't get you.
- 15:34Speaker 5: Know, but I was so nervous, Like I was just like, man,
- 15:36Speaker 5: I can't quench my throomb, drinking.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Water, drinking water, New York warter back. Then I'm like.
- 15:41Speaker 5: Killing it up with the sink water and like still
- 15:43Speaker 5: and I was just like crazy nervous.
- 15:44Speaker 4: But I didn't get booed.
- 15:47Speaker 5: So that was, you know, definitely not a dagger, because
- 15:50Speaker 5: if I would have got booed. I don't even know
- 15:52Speaker 5: if I would have wanted the job, because would have
- 15:53Speaker 5: felt like I didn't deserve it. But then after that,
- 15:55Speaker 5: they called the next day, and then I think they
- 15:57Speaker 5: called on a Saturday and I was in New York
- 15:59Speaker 5: on Monday.
- 16:00Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:01Speaker 6: Wow, And now you're the longest run of cast member.
- 16:03Speaker 6: Want I want to go back to this one point
- 16:05Speaker 6: five million?
- 16:06Speaker 3: How does the how do you lose one point five million?
- 16:08Speaker 6: Do? Because I know you said it, but I know
- 16:10Speaker 6: people are listening, like, how does that happen?
- 16:12Speaker 5: We gave that dude power of attorney when we shouldn't have.
- 16:15Speaker 4: You know, kids.
- 16:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a kid, and my mom was trying
- 16:19Speaker 5: to protect me, you know what I mean. And he
- 16:20Speaker 5: had helped her out of her like tax situations, like
- 16:23Speaker 5: her and my dad's like tax situations. So she thought
- 16:26Speaker 5: she could trust him, but she could trust him with
- 16:29Speaker 5: like day thirty to fifty grand issues kind of shit.
- 16:31Speaker 5: But like when it's like a million dollars on the table,
- 16:34Speaker 5: you never know what people going to turn into. And
- 16:35Speaker 5: apparently he turned into a demon. And you know, I'm
- 16:39Speaker 5: sure his commerce come back to him. But if it
- 16:42Speaker 5: wasn't for that. I don't know, if you know, my
- 16:45Speaker 5: track would be the same, because I was ready to settle.
- 16:48Speaker 4: Into Atlanta, you know what I mean.
- 16:49Speaker 5: Like I was ready to just be like, no, I'm
- 16:51Speaker 5: good and like, you know, it's three out a half
- 16:52Speaker 5: hours to LA so if they need me, they can
- 16:54Speaker 5: call me kind of thing. But I don't think I
- 16:56Speaker 5: would have been as hungry or you know, as you know,
- 17:00Speaker 5: dedicated necessarily, like I was dedicated to Atlanta, Like Atlanta was,
- 17:04Speaker 5: you know, my everything basically, so I was very comfortable
- 17:07Speaker 5: there and very willing to just be like around the
- 17:10Speaker 5: corner from my mama and be happy.
- 17:12Speaker 3: You couldn't suit the accountant or nothing.
- 17:14Speaker 5: That I did, and I won, you know what I'm saying.
- 17:16Speaker 5: But he can't pay you know what I'm saying, So
- 17:19Speaker 5: it's just paperwork.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Basically, you want to spend more money to sue them
- 17:22Speaker 2: and not get no money.
- 17:23Speaker 5: Back one, you know. And I sued him for years
- 17:25Speaker 5: and ended up winning. But I sued him because the
- 17:28Speaker 5: IRS came after me, you know what I'm saying, and
- 17:30Speaker 5: they were like, you haven't paid your taxes all the time.
- 17:32Speaker 4: I'm like, well that's what he was supposed.
- 17:33Speaker 5: To be doing, and he went ran, don't y'all see
- 17:35Speaker 5: like I ain't got the money, like you know what
- 17:37Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 17:37Speaker 3: So, but and Uncle Sam don't care.
- 17:40Speaker 4: They don't care at all.
- 17:41Speaker 5: They want their money, you know. So I got my
- 17:44Speaker 5: settlement and it's on that person now. But as far
- 17:47Speaker 5: as like me getting that money back, and I knew
- 17:49Speaker 5: it as soon as it happened, you know what I'm saying,
- 17:51Speaker 5: I'm like, I ain't never.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Gonna see that money.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Yeah, I might as well just get back and start
- 17:54Speaker 5: from scratch and just you know, forget about it. If
- 17:56Speaker 5: it comes back, great, but you know it has yet too.
- 18:00Speaker 5: But I've been blessed in so many other ways. Like
- 18:03Speaker 5: I take those life lessons and just learn from them.
- 18:06Speaker 6: I'm so sorry for everybody in that situation because they
- 18:09Speaker 6: don't teach us financial literacy. When when when the communities
- 18:13Speaker 6: we come from, but then we get people that we
- 18:15Speaker 6: think are supposed to have our best interest in that way,
- 18:17Speaker 6: and they take advantage it. Just like, how can you
- 18:19Speaker 6: ever trust my man a black man?
- 18:21Speaker 5: God damn, an elder black man?
- 18:24Speaker 3: How can you trust somebody ever again?
- 18:27Speaker 5: Because like you want to try to keep hope, you know,
- 18:30Speaker 5: you want to try to keep hope on humanity, you
- 18:32Speaker 5: know what I.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Mean, Jackson, just you try to keep keep alive, you know.
- 18:40Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know, man, Like I've never been
- 18:42Speaker 5: one to be like, oh he's a piece of shit,
- 18:45Speaker 5: So this next person might be you know what I mean,
- 18:47Speaker 5: Like everybody has a chance to kind of prove themselves
- 18:50Speaker 5: to be what they are.
- 18:51Speaker 7: Those guys, when did you get comfortable on Saturday Night Live?
- 18:53Speaker 7: Because you had to be nervous, you know when you
- 18:55Speaker 7: first starting off, you with all these people that's been
- 18:57Speaker 7: there before, and when did you get comfortable?
- 19:00Speaker 5: It took a while because you have a writer's burden
- 19:04Speaker 5: on that, Sonela, and I didn't come from that, you know.
- 19:06Speaker 5: I just came from being given scripts and then I
- 19:08Speaker 5: do what I do and like if we added something,
- 19:10Speaker 5: then they'll put it in or whatever. But I was
- 19:11Speaker 5: never like part of that process. So it was like
- 19:14Speaker 5: a learning thing as I went along. And I don't
- 19:16Speaker 5: think I was like comfortable, comfortable until I got my
- 19:19Speaker 5: first personal idea on the show and that was like
- 19:22Speaker 5: season five.
- 19:22Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, Scared Straight. Shout out to Scared Straight.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Why that role in particular?
- 19:28Speaker 4: What Scared Straight?
- 19:29Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, why did that make you the most comfortable.
- 19:31Speaker 5: Well that was just the first one that I got on,
- 19:34Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I finally like made my.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Sense of humor makes sense in this place. Godcha, you
- 19:40Speaker 4: know what I mean.
- 19:40Speaker 5: So yeah, Like I just felt like up until that point,
- 19:44Speaker 5: my ideas were going all over the place. I didn't
- 19:47Speaker 5: really know how to really collab with writers, or I
- 19:51Speaker 5: would collab off of their ideas as opposed to something
- 19:53Speaker 5: personal to me, you know what I mean. And then
- 19:55Speaker 5: like I started to like learn how to bring forward
- 20:00Speaker 5: the black zeitgeist, you know what I'm saying, and like
- 20:02Speaker 5: make that appealing.
- 20:05Speaker 6: That's gonna go on after fifty. I remember when I
- 20:07Speaker 6: interviewed you on my late night show, you said you
- 20:10Speaker 6: think you should end it?
- 20:11Speaker 5: That I mean, I thought it would be a good
- 20:14Speaker 5: number to stop at it if that was the case,
- 20:16Speaker 5: But I don't think it is. I think they gonna
- 20:18Speaker 5: keep it running, you know what I'm saying, Like, it
- 20:20Speaker 5: doesn't make a difference if it winds up stopping at
- 20:22Speaker 5: seventy two, it doesn't really matter. But fifty it just
- 20:25Speaker 5: felt like such a good package, just like, you know,
- 20:28Speaker 5: here's fifty years of SNL time Warner. You know what
- 20:30Speaker 5: I mean, so that around o'clock or whatever, DVDs, this, that,
- 20:33Speaker 5: and the other. It's just a nice would number, Like
- 20:36Speaker 5: if they get to a hundred, great, if they get
- 20:38Speaker 5: to two hundred, you know what I mean, incredible, It
- 20:40Speaker 5: doesn't really matter. But I've never seen a TV show
- 20:44Speaker 5: outside of like a game show or soap opera go
- 20:48Speaker 5: past thirty years, you know, twenty, Like that's just crazy.
- 20:51Speaker 5: So I didn't really know how long it was gonna
- 20:54Speaker 5: take it then if dude was going to retire, you
- 20:56Speaker 5: know after that year.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Lord Michael, Yeah, it might.
- 20:59Speaker 5: Be you know, it might be smart to pose it
- 21:02Speaker 5: or something like that. But at the same time, Tina
- 21:05Speaker 5: can do it. I can do it, you know. Yeah,
- 21:08Speaker 5: Steve Higgins, There's a lot of people that can keep
- 21:10Speaker 5: it going. It's just will it have the same support,
- 21:14Speaker 5: you know, like budget wise kind of thing, Like if
- 21:16Speaker 5: you slash the budget, it's a completely different show. And
- 21:18Speaker 5: then that's not fair to whoever's in that chair. So
- 21:21Speaker 5: it's up to them, you know what I'm saying. But
- 21:23Speaker 5: from what I'm hearing, I think it's probably gonna continue.
- 21:25Speaker 7: Did you ever feel like you didn't have support of
- 21:27Speaker 7: the culture of the community you know, because starting off
- 21:30Speaker 7: as a new culture, any black comedian that's on Saturday
- 21:33Speaker 7: Night Live, they will say, oh, he's the talking black
- 21:35Speaker 7: or he's not that funny. It's like the hate comes first.
- 21:37Speaker 4: Did you ever feel it?
- 21:39Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, and anytime I do something that's you know,
- 21:43Speaker 5: pushing boundaries or anything like that, there's a lot of pushback,
- 21:46Speaker 5: you know. So I definitely felt like the majority of
- 21:52Speaker 5: black people weren't like, yo, Saturday Night Live is my show,
- 21:55Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It just felt like, oh,
- 21:57Speaker 5: you on that white show, you know what I mean
- 21:59Speaker 5: when people talk to you about But you know, I
- 22:02Speaker 5: took that and was like, all right, well that's how
- 22:04Speaker 5: y'all feel. You must not really know, you know, kind
- 22:06Speaker 5: of the history of the show and who's really come
- 22:08Speaker 5: out of there, you know what I'm saying. And it's
- 22:10Speaker 5: just as much our show as anybody else's kind of thing,
- 22:12Speaker 5: because you know, we have, you know, the biggest start
- 22:17Speaker 5: probably in movie history coming out there.
- 22:20Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, I've never heard people say that
- 22:23Speaker 6: there's token blacks on that SNEL.
- 22:24Speaker 3: It just was always there wasn't enough of enough black.
- 22:27Speaker 4: It was you know, one at a timing for a while.
- 22:30Speaker 6: You know, because the black people they have are black. Yeah,
- 22:33Speaker 6: Eddie didn't try not to be black. Tracy Mugan didn't
- 22:35Speaker 6: try not to be black, like they went for it.
- 22:36Speaker 4: They I don't think Tracy can help himselfing, you know.
- 22:43Speaker 5: But yeah, that was part of the conversation that I
- 22:45Speaker 5: was talking about when it was time to get more
- 22:47Speaker 5: black women in the show.
- 22:48Speaker 4: You know.
- 22:49Speaker 5: It's just like my quote that was heavily misquoted or
- 22:53Speaker 5: whatever was just the fact that, you know, the pool
- 22:57Speaker 5: to choose from isn't large basically as far as the
- 22:59Speaker 5: people that ready to do that show. Like, like I
- 23:03Speaker 5: personally didn't know about the ground.
- 23:04Speaker 4: As a second city, you know what I'm saying.
- 23:05Speaker 5: So let alone you know, a whole bunch of us
- 23:08Speaker 5: knowing about it, and yeah, it's just, you know, it's
- 23:11Speaker 5: slim pickings sometimes. So it is kind of one at
- 23:13Speaker 5: a time as far as like discovering the next person
- 23:16Speaker 5: that is ready, you know, because a lot of us
- 23:18Speaker 5: might have other interests athletics, you know, music, business and
- 23:21Speaker 5: stuff like that that might seem cooler to the culture
- 23:25Speaker 5: and stuff. So you know, when it is time to
- 23:27Speaker 5: like look for the next you know, they might be
- 23:31Speaker 5: you know, they might be slim choices kind of thing,
- 23:34Speaker 5: but I think that's expanding. And you know, the more we,
- 23:38Speaker 5: you know, continue to display the fact that we can
- 23:40Speaker 5: do it and that you know, you should open up
- 23:43Speaker 5: the doors and look a little harder.
- 23:44Speaker 4: If that's the case, you know, you find your.
- 23:47Speaker 5: Leslie Joneses and your ego Wodhams, you know what I'm saying,
- 23:49Speaker 5: and you shild Jamadas and and you know, you give people,
- 23:54Speaker 5: you know, an opportunity to show you that we can
- 23:56Speaker 5: do this as well kind of thing. And you know,
- 23:59Speaker 5: I think that's kind of like what my words should
- 24:02Speaker 5: have been in that in that quote, you know what
- 24:04Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 24:05Speaker 3: I don't even remember the quote.
- 24:06Speaker 5: The quote that they say I said was that, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 5: black women ain't funny, But that's not what I said.
- 24:10Speaker 6: It was like, that's better though, that's a good one.
- 24:16Speaker 5: The person writing the story black women Ain't funny comes
- 24:19Speaker 5: says black women ain't funny. You know, that's basically how
- 24:21Speaker 5: they blasted me, like for a while, and you know,
- 24:23Speaker 5: Leslie was mad, like before she met me, she was like,
- 24:26Speaker 5: let that motherfucker come over here and I'll burn his
- 24:28Speaker 5: ass up.
- 24:30Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't say that.
- 24:31Speaker 5: And when we first met, you know, that was clarified
- 24:33Speaker 5: in two seconds, because you know, when you and me,
- 24:36Speaker 5: you know, I'm not outside the culture like that.
- 24:38Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
- 24:38Speaker 5: I don't disrespect my black women at all, you know,
- 24:41Speaker 5: like because like how would my mother look at me?
- 24:43Speaker 4: How would my sister look at me?
- 24:44Speaker 5: My cousins, this, that, and my that. I'm not an idiot,
- 24:47Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I'm not detached from
- 24:49Speaker 5: the world either like that, you know what I'm saying.
- 24:51Speaker 5: So I would never say something so egregious. But my
- 24:55Speaker 5: point was, yeah, man, like this, it's I'm sure there's small,
- 24:58Speaker 5: low numbers, you know, in those improv houses wherever they
- 25:01Speaker 5: might be. So if I'm wrong, let me be wrong.
- 25:05Speaker 5: But I don't think I am because I've been in
- 25:07Speaker 5: the business a long time and I go to shows
- 25:09Speaker 5: a lot, you know what I'm saying, And I be looking,
- 25:10Speaker 5: you know, and I look back on history, like when
- 25:13Speaker 5: you watch Chris Farley in his Second City Days or whatever,
- 25:15Speaker 5: and you look at the background and his performance it
- 25:17Speaker 5: was tim medals. It wasn't like it was tim medals,
- 25:20Speaker 5: and A's Kevin and there's Joe and there's this that,
- 25:22Speaker 5: and they are all black and together and only Tim
- 25:24Speaker 5: got the shot.
- 25:25Speaker 4: It was just Tim metals there. You know what I'm saying,
- 25:28Speaker 4: That was it.
- 25:29Speaker 6: The problem with headlines is there's no nuance to headlines
- 25:32Speaker 6: because headlines can't be nuanced. Like if you tried the
- 25:35Speaker 6: nuanced the headline, it looked like the title of your book.
- 25:37Speaker 3: So it has to be something quick, you know what.
- 25:39Speaker 4: It has to be sharp.
- 25:40Speaker 5: Yeah, So like I get it, and it you know,
- 25:43Speaker 5: they did their job throwing me under the bus.
- 25:45Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, That bus driven by
- 25:49Speaker 3: black woman is no joke, you know.
- 25:50Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, you got to
- 25:53Speaker 5: look towards the positive, and the positive is it did
- 25:56Speaker 5: open the doors for some people, you know, even if
- 25:58Speaker 5: it was you know, me having to be the scapegold
- 26:00Speaker 5: or whatever.
- 26:01Speaker 4: So I can't be mad at it. How much longer
- 26:04Speaker 4: than I can be? But this guy got a plan?
- 26:07Speaker 3: How much longer does Keenan want to do? Us?
- 26:08Speaker 5: And L I mean, I don't know that that question
- 26:12Speaker 5: continues to vary, you know, like it all kind of
- 26:15Speaker 5: starts depending on like what the kids want to do
- 26:18Speaker 5: and where the kids want to be, Like how much
- 26:21Speaker 5: more time can I spend with them? If possible? And
- 26:24Speaker 5: also like are people getting tired of my moves? You
- 26:27Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like are people getting tired of
- 26:29Speaker 5: seeing me on the show all the time?
- 26:31Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
- 26:31Speaker 5: So it also is a long schedule and takes up
- 26:36Speaker 5: most of the year kind of things. So you know,
- 26:38Speaker 5: it might be time for like to make room for
- 26:42Speaker 5: other opportunities at the same time, but I want to
- 26:44Speaker 5: see that fiftieth at least.
- 26:46Speaker 6: It is scary for you when you think about, all right,
- 26:49Speaker 6: last time I walked away from a steady gig.
- 26:54Speaker 5: Yeah, damn not in no hurry to like get back
- 26:58Speaker 5: to that. Yeah, I've been there, done that, you know
- 27:00Speaker 5: what I mean.
- 27:01Speaker 2: You know that's a guarantee check.
- 27:02Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a guaranteed way of life, which is
- 27:05Speaker 5: rare for an actor, you know, like a lot of
- 27:07Speaker 5: actors is at the airport, you know what I'm saying,
- 27:09Speaker 5: and some casters going to New Zealand for ten years,
- 27:11Speaker 5: you know, Like I can't really afford to do that
- 27:13Speaker 5: with you know, small children, you know what I mean,
- 27:15Speaker 5: Like I love them, So.
- 27:17Speaker 1: The fifty if you might walk away, see that, See
- 27:20Speaker 1: how trying to put you on the head.
- 27:22Speaker 4: It could be, it couldn't. It all depends. It all
- 27:25Speaker 4: depends on, you know, how that season goes as well.
- 27:28Speaker 5: You know what i mean, because like right now, we
- 27:29Speaker 5: only have way through forty nine and that's a lot
- 27:31Speaker 5: of ideas and a lot of sketches. There's a lot
- 27:33Speaker 5: of chances to do something like brilliant and stuff like that.
- 27:36Speaker 5: But it's also a lot of chances to kind of like,
- 27:40Speaker 5: you know, show people that I've been there a long time,
- 27:43Speaker 5: which is like it's not necessarily great when you're trying
- 27:47Speaker 5: to create things fresh and new and you want to
- 27:49Speaker 5: show to feel fresh and new, you.
- 27:51Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
- 27:52Speaker 5: So I've been you know, kind of happy to be
- 27:54Speaker 5: in the background or see like Devin get a sketch
- 27:57Speaker 5: on finally, you know what i mean, like for himself
- 28:00Speaker 5: kind of thing like he did, you know on Saturday.
- 28:02Speaker 5: You know, like I was like very happy for him
- 28:04Speaker 5: for that, like cause other things have been like collaborative
- 28:07Speaker 5: or he'll have a part here and there, but a
- 28:09Speaker 5: whole sketch to himself. I think that might have been
- 28:11Speaker 5: his first one on Saturday, and that's a that's a
- 28:13Speaker 5: big step, you know what I'm saying, and that's how
- 28:15Speaker 5: the show continues to move on through history. So if
- 28:18Speaker 5: I need to move to the side to allow for
- 28:21Speaker 5: those things to happen and just like come in at
- 28:22Speaker 5: the end of the schedule or whatever and help or whatever.
- 28:25Speaker 4: I'm good doing that.
- 28:26Speaker 5: Like I've had my moments where you know, I put
- 28:30Speaker 5: up an idea and like people are singing it as
- 28:32Speaker 5: they decorate their Christmas tree, Like what's up with that?
- 28:35Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 28:35Speaker 5: And that's that's something that like went hyper viral and
- 28:38Speaker 5: like I hear about it to this day. I did
- 28:41Speaker 5: that for the first time fourteen years ago, so I'm
- 28:45Speaker 5: crazy like that maybe seventeen years or what well season?
- 28:48Speaker 4: What season man twenty one?
- 28:49Speaker 5: Yeah, fourteen years ago, so you know what I mean,
- 28:51Speaker 5: Like that's a long time, bro, And we do twenty
- 28:55Speaker 5: shows a season. That's a lot of sketches and a
- 28:57Speaker 5: lot of different characters and stuff like that. So I mean,
- 29:00Speaker 5: long story short, if i feel like I'm still creating
- 29:03Speaker 5: and it's not a headache for people, you know what
- 29:05Speaker 5: I mean, then yeah.
- 29:07Speaker 4: I'll keep it going.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Financially, you gotta be good.
- 29:09Speaker 6: It's not like you're gonna be in line at the
- 29:10Speaker 6: food bank that you're in an ambassador.
- 29:12Speaker 5: Yeah, no, yeah, man, you shout out to the food bank.
- 29:15Speaker 5: They're doing really really great things over there.
- 29:17Speaker 3: We're ambassadors there, we are, you know what I'm saying.
- 29:19Speaker 5: We're ambassadors for you know, leaving nobody behind, you know
- 29:24Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And like I love that. Financial wise, yeah,
- 29:29Speaker 5: we're doing all right, and we're going to continue to
- 29:31Speaker 5: do so. But at any given moment, you know what
- 29:33Speaker 5: I mean. And also, like you know, there's a lot
- 29:35Speaker 5: of things going on in the world, so if anything happens,
- 29:37Speaker 5: like you know, worldly, then you know, you don't have
- 29:40Speaker 5: no control of it. Don't matter what we got in
- 29:41Speaker 5: the bank kind of thing. So try to celebrate the
- 29:44Speaker 5: day man, as it goes.
- 29:45Speaker 7: I was going to ask, you know, when you watch
- 29:47Speaker 7: things that happen, do you have an opinion or as in,
- 29:50Speaker 7: do you care?
- 29:50Speaker 4: Or is it?
- 29:51Speaker 7: The first thing is sketch? Right, So Shannon sharp cat
- 29:53Speaker 7: Williams right, he's going crazy. Are you thinking, oh, this
- 29:57Speaker 7: is a sketch and this is I'm gonna break it down?
- 29:58Speaker 7: Or are you thinking, damn, why is he going at
- 30:00Speaker 7: so many people?
- 30:02Speaker 5: Well, some things are obviously going to be a sketch,
- 30:04Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like, as soon as I
- 30:06Speaker 5: saw it, I'm like, oh yeah, like this is definitely
- 30:08Speaker 5: going to be a sketch only because like Cat Williams
- 30:11Speaker 5: is a good impression, you know what I mean, Shanna
- 30:12Speaker 5: Sharp is a good impression, and this is definitely a
- 30:15Speaker 5: moment that everybody has seen, right, so it's gonna be like,
- 30:19Speaker 5: you know, whoever's first to get the sketch up. Basically
- 30:23Speaker 5: at that point, there's a lot of nighttime shows that
- 30:26Speaker 5: could have done it, you know what I mean, or whatever,
- 30:28Speaker 5: But when we do it, it's on a different level
- 30:31Speaker 5: because like our departments are crazy, like our whig department,
- 30:34Speaker 5: our wardrobe, you know what I mean, our sets.
- 30:36Speaker 4: Like the audio, the whole team, you know what I mean.
- 30:39Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the whole team is like on super duper
- 30:43Speaker 5: point because they've been doing it for forever and they
- 30:45Speaker 5: take it serious.
- 30:46Speaker 4: They love it, you know what I mean.
- 30:46Speaker 5: It's a family, like a generational kind of family that
- 30:49Speaker 5: worked there. So yeah, when I saw that, I was like,
- 30:53Speaker 5: we're doing this for sure. I wish we weren't on
- 30:55Speaker 5: break and everybody was texting like I know y'all about
- 30:57Speaker 5: to do this. This weekend. I'm like, man, we all
- 30:59Speaker 5: for another week. You can have bro and everyone, Oh
- 31:01Speaker 5: my god, we gotta wait. But shout out the eggo man,
- 31:04Speaker 5: you know what I mean? She get it, like, yeah,
- 31:07Speaker 5: they destroyed it, and I was I was eating it
- 31:10Speaker 5: up because I was it was entertaining, like the first
- 31:12Speaker 5: time I watched it and I was like, oh snap,
- 31:16Speaker 5: you know he said spilling everything, you know, and I
- 31:19Speaker 5: was enjoying it that way. And then of course, you know,
- 31:22Speaker 5: the elder started chiming in, and like when Dave chimed in,
- 31:25Speaker 5: like why you're painting us with such a you know,
- 31:27Speaker 5: why you're painting dirty, ugly pictures of us or whatever,
- 31:29Speaker 5: It's like, all right, I gotta calm down, you know
- 31:32Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like take that into mind, the fact
- 31:34Speaker 5: that you know it the bigger pictures. We are supposed
- 31:39Speaker 5: to be pushing uphill together kind of thing. And yeah,
- 31:43Speaker 5: it was like all right, well, you know, maybe we
- 31:45Speaker 5: shouldn't be, you know, lashing out or throwing each other
- 31:49Speaker 5: under the bus or whatever. But you know, at first,
- 31:52Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I love this.
- 31:54Speaker 6: You know, at a comedian, is that something you would
- 31:57Speaker 6: want to get mentioned in? Would you want cat to
- 31:59Speaker 6: say your name.
- 32:00Speaker 5: Nah, I don't want to be in No, I don't
- 32:04Speaker 5: want to be and nobody driving at all, you know
- 32:06Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Especially like you know, the topics that
- 32:08Speaker 5: they were discussing. I'm like, I could be on the
- 32:10Speaker 5: wrong side of this at any given moment if they
- 32:12Speaker 5: want to mention me. But my perspective on that, in
- 32:15Speaker 5: my mind doesn't have me on the wrong side of it.
- 32:17Speaker 4: But you know, people have their opinion.
- 32:19Speaker 3: You might be a plant to somebody.
- 32:21Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, how you go from good Burger toes and
- 32:24Speaker 6: L and be there for twenty years?
- 32:26Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like that's that's his opinion on that,
- 32:29Speaker 5: and it's dismissive unfortunately of you know, like Kevin's been
- 32:33Speaker 5: showing up to work all this time, you know what
- 32:35Speaker 5: I'm saying. It's not like even if he was like
- 32:37Speaker 5: planning and being like, all right, here's a movie for you,
- 32:39Speaker 5: he had to still do that movie.
- 32:41Speaker 4: He had to show up to this, you know what
- 32:42Speaker 4: I mean, And.
- 32:43Speaker 3: Like, don't even if he was planning.
- 32:47Speaker 5: Like he wasn't planning, if he was just given an opportunity,
- 32:50Speaker 5: that doesn't come as easy to others say it like that.
- 32:53Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, he still had to take
- 32:55Speaker 5: it and run with it, you know what I mean,
- 32:56Speaker 5: and do all the stand up and do all the
- 32:58Speaker 5: other TV show movies and stand the other and like
- 33:01Speaker 5: continue his track of professionalists. So like industry plants, unfortunately
- 33:07Speaker 5: dismisses the work ethic.
- 33:08Speaker 4: Of an individual, you know. And I think that's a nepotism.
- 33:11Speaker 5: Like you know, a lot of people want to do
- 33:13Speaker 5: for their children in any kind of environment, whether it's
- 33:16Speaker 5: Hollywood or corporate America.
- 33:18Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
- 33:18Speaker 5: But if the child becomes successful, it's not just because
- 33:22Speaker 5: the dad padded them along the entire time, you know
- 33:26Speaker 5: what I mean. Usually they have a work ethic and
- 33:28Speaker 5: they want to actually go out there and make those
- 33:30Speaker 5: connections and make people see them, you know what I mean.
- 33:32Speaker 5: So try not to dismiss the individual just because they
- 33:36Speaker 5: have an opportunity that you might not have had.
- 33:39Speaker 4: Kind of thing.
- 33:39Speaker 6: And I want to shout out to two black men
- 33:41Speaker 6: who first put Kevin in movies, Damon Dash and Russ Parr.
- 33:44Speaker 6: Two black men put Kevin in his first project is
- 33:46Speaker 6: that Nah? Before Soul Playing? It was definitely for Dynasty.
- 33:50Speaker 6: It was a state state property, state property, state property
- 33:55Speaker 6: define with Dynasty, he was in state property.
- 33:59Speaker 3: No people soldiers.
- 34:02Speaker 6: And Russ Paul put him into something too, but I
- 34:04Speaker 6: can't know the name of it, but they were the
- 34:06Speaker 6: first two people to put.
- 34:07Speaker 5: Him out the damn shout out to Russ's right, Yeah, man,
- 34:09Speaker 5: Like anybody that's giving you a leg up in this business,
- 34:13Speaker 5: like shout them out the whole time.
- 34:15Speaker 2: You know, do you make a call and well to people?
- 34:18Speaker 4: A lot of people, you know, I started young.
- 34:21Speaker 5: So the people that helped me, like work at Nickelodeon,
- 34:24Speaker 5: they're not necessarily like names or whatever, but like the
- 34:29Speaker 5: producers of all that in Kennicott was like Brian Robbins,
- 34:31Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and Mike Tolan, and you know,
- 34:34Speaker 5: Mike has gone on to do like more sports kind
- 34:36Speaker 5: of documentary kind of stuff, and Brian is like the
- 34:38Speaker 5: head of Paramount now, you know. But they were definitely
- 34:42Speaker 5: big helps. Lauren is a big help. Theater teachers, you
- 34:46Speaker 5: know my high school, you know, drama teacher, mister Freddie
- 34:49Speaker 5: Hendrix shout out.
- 34:51Speaker 4: You know, people like that, they're just as opposed to help.
- 34:55Speaker 5: Just gave me game, you know what I'm saying, And
- 34:57Speaker 5: gave me game about surviving the game, but also how
- 35:00Speaker 5: to like be a real performer and be professional and
- 35:03Speaker 5: show up on time and kill it.
- 35:05Speaker 7: I was gonna ask, you know, do you make a
- 35:06Speaker 7: phone call when you're about to do a skit or
- 35:09Speaker 7: do something about somebody, you know, something happened to somebody
- 35:11Speaker 7: that you effort.
- 35:12Speaker 4: You should You don't know.
- 35:15Speaker 2: I just take it, like you know, you got those
- 35:17Speaker 2: calls before, like bro, oh.
- 35:19Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve Harvey didn't love it. You know, he didn't
- 35:23Speaker 5: love it at first. You just ain't watch yourself, you know,
- 35:27Speaker 5: because you know, he's a grown man from the streets
- 35:32Speaker 5: of Clevelans or.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Whatever it is, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:35Speaker 5: He's just a big guy, you know, and like he
- 35:39Speaker 5: comes from like the knuckle up generation where you have
- 35:41Speaker 5: to and get it in the cold rocking factories or whatever.
- 35:46Speaker 5: He did, you know. But yeah, at first he was like, hey,
- 35:49Speaker 5: little rerun watch yourself.
- 35:51Speaker 3: All right?
- 35:53Speaker 2: No, so he calls you or you ran into it.
- 35:56Speaker 5: I would he would say it on his show, he
- 35:58Speaker 5: was saying on the radio and like that. So I
- 36:01Speaker 5: would like eventually like call in and be like, hey man,
- 36:03Speaker 5: you good. You know, Like once we did like an
- 36:06Speaker 5: interview or something like that. But whenever I would speak
- 36:09Speaker 5: to him, it was always love, you know what I'm saying.
- 36:11Speaker 5: But I just think, you know, he had to like
- 36:12Speaker 5: make his stance kind of known for his audience play
- 36:16Speaker 5: with blah blah blah. But you know, Steve's also been
- 36:19Speaker 5: another mentor because we was on his show back in
- 36:22Speaker 5: the day, and he gave me a lot of game
- 36:24Speaker 5: basically about just growing up and not.
- 36:27Speaker 4: Treating the business so young just because you young.
- 36:30Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of like adults out here
- 36:33Speaker 5: that's working really hard that's got like real problems when
- 36:36Speaker 5: they go home, or like, you know, you know, life
- 36:39Speaker 5: is serious enough, so you can't just be playing all
- 36:42Speaker 5: the time.
- 36:42Speaker 6: Right, Basically, how fatherhood change you? Because you got a
- 36:45Speaker 6: chance to call everything I need to know about life.
- 36:46Speaker 6: I learned from my girls. I got four girls, you
- 36:48Speaker 6: got two? Right, How how does father change?
- 36:53Speaker 4: I mean it really like showed me life outside.
- 36:56Speaker 5: Of my own personal perspective as far as how I
- 36:59Speaker 5: approach the day, you know what I mean, like and
- 37:01Speaker 5: living for others kind of thing, which was.
- 37:03Speaker 4: Like very different.
- 37:05Speaker 5: You know, like when you're in a relationship, it's different,
- 37:07Speaker 5: like you're still both grown individuals, so you expect the
- 37:10Speaker 5: other individual to like be able to take care of,
- 37:12Speaker 5: you know, certain basics or whatever because they grow. But
- 37:15Speaker 5: with a child, it's like, no, they need you for everything,
- 37:18Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. In their first few years,
- 37:21Speaker 5: or the first decade, or you know, even for the
- 37:23Speaker 5: rest of their life, whatever it is. They need you
- 37:26Speaker 5: in such a way that it's like it never turns off.
- 37:31Speaker 5: And I had never really experienced that, you know what
- 37:32Speaker 5: I mean, where it's like, you know, you have to
- 37:35Speaker 5: be aware of you know, and know what's going on
- 37:38Speaker 5: with your kids, like on a twenty.
- 37:39Speaker 4: Four hour basis, you know, three sixty five.
- 37:41Speaker 5: It's not like you can take a week off just
- 37:43Speaker 5: because it's Christmas.
- 37:46Speaker 3: And what did you learn? What have you learned from
- 37:47Speaker 3: your girl?
- 37:49Speaker 4: Patience?
- 37:50Speaker 5: You know, definitely a lot of patients emotion like being
- 37:56Speaker 5: able to like just embrace having emotional moments, you know
- 38:01Speaker 5: what I mean, Because when we were growing up, it
- 38:03Speaker 5: was either suck it up, take a lap, do this
- 38:05Speaker 5: or that, any other kind of thing, and never really
- 38:07Speaker 5: like sit in what's really bothering you kind of thing,
- 38:11Speaker 5: shake it off, you know what I mean, Like we
- 38:12Speaker 5: had all those kind of like sayings from coaches and
- 38:15Speaker 5: things like that, or you know, just growing up as
- 38:16Speaker 5: a man, you know, like you know, be a man,
- 38:18Speaker 5: suck it up kind of thing, and you would hear that.
- 38:21Speaker 4: But they taught me like it's okay.
- 38:23Speaker 5: To you know, feel these feelings kind of thing and
- 38:25Speaker 5: like understand what may be causing them and kind of
- 38:28Speaker 5: work through it. But also like the perspective of a child,
- 38:32Speaker 5: because we go around like, you know, kind of looking
- 38:35Speaker 5: and not really seeing the world, maybe just because we're
- 38:39Speaker 5: seeing it at our height, you know what i mean.
- 38:41Speaker 5: When you're smaller, you know, you see probably a bigger
- 38:44Speaker 5: picture and stuff like that kind of stopping smell of
- 38:47Speaker 5: roses kind of kind of vibe.
- 38:49Speaker 3: Basically, who's your biggest critic?
- 38:53Speaker 5: Myself? Yep, because I'm I'm the one that sees it all.
- 38:57Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like some people watch things
- 38:59Speaker 5: and they just enjoy it surface level, but I'm watching
- 39:01Speaker 5: like all snap my shoes and tied or you know,
- 39:03Speaker 5: little ship like my hair and I need a haircut.
- 39:06Speaker 6: You still got a hairline, though, you know what I'm saying.
- 39:08Speaker 6: That's all a black man can ask for a certain
- 39:11Speaker 6: You still got a headline.
- 39:12Speaker 5: God, bless you bless so like you know all that
- 39:17Speaker 5: kind of stuff too. You know what I'm saying, like,
- 39:19Speaker 5: oh I need a haircut, but like, thank god I
- 39:21Speaker 5: do have hair kind of thing.
- 39:23Speaker 4: So that's a stab at you show.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I get a haircut.
- 39:26Speaker 6: You're talking about your get a fresh ball to haircuts
- 39:29Speaker 6: in a shape.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Shade.
- 39:33Speaker 6: I get a fresh ball. You know, it just starts
- 39:36Speaker 6: right here. The headline starts mid the ball.
- 39:39Speaker 4: You do your own, or you go somewhere.
- 39:41Speaker 3: I go to my man every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 39:44Speaker 3: I understand, But you know what I don't.
- 39:46Speaker 6: I like, first of all, my guy right all the
- 39:49Speaker 6: treatment there.
- 39:51Speaker 3: You go exactly in the conversation.
- 39:53Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
- 39:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean therapy is good. I love therapy too.
- 39:57Speaker 6: But you know when you go into a barber shop
- 39:59Speaker 6: and you just kicking, it's like got all girls.
- 40:01Speaker 3: So it's good to get out the house and get shop.
- 40:04Speaker 3: You know, that's it.
- 40:06Speaker 7: Charlemagne pampas himself, So I take my daughters to this uh.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Manicurist and Pedicurius. Charlamagne is always there.
- 40:14Speaker 7: They love me and there they like every time I
- 40:16Speaker 7: go there, Like I see your friend, I went there
- 40:18Speaker 7: the other day. Charlemagne is always in there.
- 40:20Speaker 3: They love it.
- 40:21Speaker 5: He take a lesson stay clean, you know, like I don't.
- 40:26Speaker 5: I bite my nails unfortunately, man, habit.
- 40:29Speaker 3: No, man, you got to go get your manicure, pedicure
- 40:32Speaker 3: ken you deserve it.
- 40:33Speaker 5: I can't sit there like that. I don't think I
- 40:35Speaker 5: have patience to just sit there and like let people
- 40:37Speaker 5: tickle me.
- 40:38Speaker 4: I'm also I'm also really ticklish.
- 40:42Speaker 3: You look ticklish?
- 40:43Speaker 5: Yeah, you know he looked ticulars. If that's the case,
- 40:54Speaker 5: it's the truth, because when did you first realize that?
- 40:58Speaker 5: What when I got tickeled as a little kid, you
- 41:00Speaker 5: know what I mean, like I don't take a you
- 41:02Speaker 5: know that was actually like, oh that feels funny.
- 41:05Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody does that. You was an adult though.
- 41:09Speaker 5: Now grown men shouldn't be tackling another because it usually,
- 41:12Speaker 5: you know, they.
- 41:17Speaker 4: Just have a good time, you know nothing.
- 41:20Speaker 6: Oh my god, you and kel just reconnected too, but
- 41:23Speaker 6: well not just recollect what y'all did a good burger too.
- 41:25Speaker 4: Yeah, man shout out to my brother.
- 41:26Speaker 3: Man.
- 41:27Speaker 6: Now, I don't know if to say how did y'all
- 41:29Speaker 6: get back on good terms? And I don't know if
- 41:30Speaker 6: y'all was having on bad turns.
- 41:32Speaker 4: No, I don't.
- 41:33Speaker 5: I don't think, I mean, but at the same time,
- 41:35Speaker 5: you know, hearsay and stuff like that can push it
- 41:39Speaker 5: in that direction if you don't get like the real
- 41:42Speaker 5: answer from the individual. And since there was a period
- 41:45Speaker 5: where we weren't really in that much communication, you know,
- 41:48Speaker 5: they were probably englands of that kind of energy or whatever.
- 41:51Speaker 5: But once we actually did speak on the phone because
- 41:54Speaker 5: we were doing a good Burger sketch on the Tonight
- 41:57Speaker 5: Show or whatever, you know, and we had to spoken
- 42:00Speaker 5: in years, you know what I'm saying, We knew we
- 42:02Speaker 5: had to like at least talk before we go perform
- 42:05Speaker 5: to each other. It was a two second reconciliation.
- 42:08Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
- 42:09Speaker 5: It was like time had never gone by, basically, and
- 42:12Speaker 5: it was it felt like such a blessing to me
- 42:16Speaker 5: and I feel like to him as well, you know,
- 42:18Speaker 5: to have each other back in each other's lives, you
- 42:20Speaker 5: know what I mean, because we do work so well together,
- 42:23Speaker 5: and we had established, you know what I mean, something
- 42:25Speaker 5: so beloved that it would be a crime to kind
- 42:27Speaker 5: of just let it go into the wind just because
- 42:29Speaker 5: you know, we wanted, you know, individual career identities.
- 42:34Speaker 4: Kind of thing.
- 42:35Speaker 5: You know, we didn't always want to be just Keenan
- 42:38Speaker 5: and Kell, Like my name is Keenan Thompson and his
- 42:40Speaker 5: name is cal Mitchell, you know what I'm saying, And
- 42:42Speaker 5: like not a lot of people were willing to recognize
- 42:45Speaker 5: that at the time. So that's kind of like where
- 42:47Speaker 5: that drift apart started happening. And then, you know, as
- 42:50Speaker 5: life does, you know, like different experiences are happening, so
- 42:54Speaker 5: it just takes you and then you the next thing,
- 42:56Speaker 5: you look up and we haven't spoken in seven years
- 42:58Speaker 5: or something crazy like that or whatever. It was, so
- 43:02Speaker 5: for us to reconcile and do the Good Burger sketch
- 43:04Speaker 5: that was six seven years ago something like that.
- 43:08Speaker 4: That was really really nice, and.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Then that was sparked a Good Burger too.
- 43:12Speaker 5: That's kind of sparked like, yo, I think we need
- 43:14Speaker 5: to do this, and they were going to do a cartoon,
- 43:16Speaker 5: and it was like, I think you should do the
- 43:18Speaker 5: movie first and then do the cartoon. Like everybody's been
- 43:21Speaker 5: kind of asking for a sequel since the first one
- 43:23Speaker 5: kind of thing. It's like, if you're going to get
- 43:24Speaker 5: back into that world, might as well do the second,
- 43:27Speaker 5: especially if we hear you know what I'm saying, and
- 43:28Speaker 5: we're young enough to like still do it with a
- 43:30Speaker 5: passion and this, that and the other and try to
- 43:32Speaker 5: make a good movie. So you know, luckily we were
- 43:35Speaker 5: able to like put it together and like get it
- 43:37Speaker 5: green Lid. Shot it in Rhode Island, like thanks to
- 43:39Speaker 5: artists for artists, and like my business partner, you know,
- 43:42Speaker 5: Johnny Ryan, who's from there, and.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Like that's your production company.
- 43:46Speaker 5: Yeah, got a bunch of like you know whatever tax
- 43:49Speaker 5: credits to make the budget make sense. And it was
- 43:52Speaker 5: good for me because it was right up the street, you.
- 43:54Speaker 4: Know what i mean.
- 43:55Speaker 5: And my girls were in school till late June or
- 43:58Speaker 5: something like that, so they were able to take to
- 44:00Speaker 5: train up on the weekend, you know what i mean,
- 44:01Speaker 5: as opposed to like having to shoot it in the
- 44:04Speaker 5: middle of nowhere or something like that.
- 44:05Speaker 4: So it all became you know, a good positive thing.
- 44:09Speaker 5: And then we actually made something that people enjoyed, you
- 44:11Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, And then it broke records, you know.
- 44:14Speaker 3: Paramounts plus his most watched original film.
- 44:16Speaker 5: Ever ever, you know what I'm saying, Like several weeks
- 44:20Speaker 5: of number one, this, that and the other, so like
- 44:22Speaker 5: it was it was all very positive, and it was
- 44:24Speaker 5: positive for our company because it was like we make
- 44:27Speaker 5: a history too, took the first Paramount movie, the Rhode
- 44:29Speaker 5: Island kind of thing, you know what I mean.
- 44:31Speaker 4: So it was just like.
- 44:31Speaker 5: All, you know, all around really good and then also
- 44:36Speaker 5: setting up as the you know, the Kenan and Killed
- 44:40Speaker 5: world continues to grow now, you know what I'm saying,
- 44:42Speaker 5: because we know we can go work on this project.
- 44:45Speaker 5: You know, if he got a project, he can go
- 44:47Speaker 5: do it. If I got a project, I.
- 44:48Speaker 4: Can go do it.
- 44:49Speaker 5: But if we come together and do something, we know
- 44:51Speaker 5: it's going to be like pretty dynamic. So that that's
- 44:54Speaker 5: a beautiful thing, you know, because we laid a lot
- 44:57Speaker 5: of track work early as opposed to like having to
- 45:00Speaker 5: figure it out middle.
- 45:02Speaker 3: Ages the cartoon's happening.
- 45:05Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 45:06Speaker 5: I think there's an opportunity to do even the third
- 45:09Speaker 5: one before we do the cartoon, you know what I'm saying,
- 45:11Speaker 5: Just because the second one did so well, you can
- 45:14Speaker 5: continue that world and keep on keep on getting it,
- 45:17Speaker 5: you know.
- 45:18Speaker 3: Absolutely. I wanted to ask you one thing.
- 45:19Speaker 6: Man, he was on Stephen Colbert Show, and you said
- 45:22Speaker 6: that Seinfeld said, you told Seinfeld the old Colbert apology
- 45:27Speaker 6: for what.
- 45:29Speaker 5: On that episode of Comedians and Cars that Colbert did
- 45:33Speaker 5: with Seinfeld. Seinfeld was like, it was just a bit
- 45:38Speaker 5: that I wanted to do for the sake of doing bits,
- 45:40Speaker 5: So it wasn't even really that serious. But Seinfeld was
- 45:43Speaker 5: saying like his show about getting coffee was way less
- 45:47Speaker 5: stressful than colbert show, which is like obvious, but to me,
- 45:50Speaker 5: it was like kind of like minimalizing Colbert's dedication, you
- 45:55Speaker 5: know what I mean. He's one of the most highly dedicated, intelligent,
- 45:58Speaker 5: absolute formers that we have and the fact that he
- 46:01Speaker 5: does it, you know, should be showing a little more
- 46:03Speaker 5: respect kind of thing.
- 46:04Speaker 4: But I was just talking ship.
- 46:07Speaker 3: Starting trouble between the white men. But it worked.
- 46:14Speaker 4: All right. Well, we appreciate you.
- 46:16Speaker 7: Man, get his new book When I was your age
- 46:19Speaker 7: life lessons, funny stories and questionable parenting advice from a
- 46:22Speaker 7: professional clown, And thank you for joining us.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Put the glasses back on that, you know what I'm saying.
- 46:26Speaker 4: Thank you for having me man. Y'all need a guest chair.
- 46:29Speaker 3: Do you do waking baking?
- 46:31Speaker 6: Guess we are Jesse Larry and starts on Monday. Right,
- 46:34Speaker 6: We're gonna have the new set up she got a
- 46:37Speaker 6: different that's gonna be for the for the guests. Yeah,
- 46:41Speaker 6: I came right before that.
- 46:43Speaker 3: You look at you actually could have been the first
- 46:45Speaker 3: if you wanted to. You can bake in the morning.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Who's that waken? Bake smoking, we eeding early?
- 46:50Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about that.
- 46:51Speaker 3: Okay, we're trying to hurt your kids.
- 46:53Speaker 2: Sponsors now and.
- 46:54Speaker 4: All that, right.
- 46:54Speaker 5: I mean, you know, sponsors are you know, easy to
- 46:57Speaker 5: talk to, especially when you go and get in front
- 46:59Speaker 5: of them.
- 46:59Speaker 4: Is like, man, I don't know what he was talking about.
- 47:02Speaker 3: Little drugs.
- 47:03Speaker 6: You know, he might he drinks early in the morning,
- 47:05Speaker 6: but he's just talking.
- 47:08Speaker 4: Man. We keep everything legal.
- 47:10Speaker 1: Kenan Thompson, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that
- 47:12Speaker 1: answer up in the morning for Breakfast Club.