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The NCAA's Dominant Rebels (April, 1990): Unraveling the 1990 UNLV Runnin' Rebels · Sports History Network

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Imagine
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a
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team
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so
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terrifying
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that
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the
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NCAA
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tried
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to
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ban
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their
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pre
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game
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lights.
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A
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team
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that
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wore
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all
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black
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sneakers
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like
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they
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were
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heading
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to
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a
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funeral.
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And
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the
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funeral
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was
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for
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their
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opponent.
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We're
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talking
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about
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a
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coach
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who
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chewed
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through
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towels
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like
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a
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golden
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retriever.
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A
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point
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guard
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with
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his
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jaw
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wired
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shut,
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who
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still
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talked
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more
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trash
0:20
than
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a
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New
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Jersey
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garbage
0:21
man,
0:21
and
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a
0:22
superstar
0:23
in
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Larry
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Johnson
0:24
who
0:24
was
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basically
0:25
a
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brick
0:25
wall
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with.
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With
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a
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40
0:26
inch
0:27
vertical.
0:28
It
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was
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the
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ultimate
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90s
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culture
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clash.
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The
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clean
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cut
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golden
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boys
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of
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Duke
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versus
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the
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running
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rebels
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of
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Sin
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City.
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By
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the
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time
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the
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dust
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settled
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in
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Denver,
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the
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record
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books
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were
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shredded.
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Coach
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K
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was
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looking
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for
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an
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exit
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sign,
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and
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Las
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Vegas
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had
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its
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first
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and
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only
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national
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championship.
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Today
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we're
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peeling
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back
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the
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neon
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onion
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from
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Hot
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tubs
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and
0:51
the
0:51
Fixer
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to
0:52
the
0:52
greatest
0:52
beatdown
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in
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tournament
0:53
history.
0:54
Grab
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your
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black
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socks
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and
0:55
turn
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up
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the
0:56
volume.
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The
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this
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is
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the
0:57
1990
0:58
UNLV
0:59
running
0:59
rebels
1:00
on
1:00
the
1:01
mixtape.
1:18
All
1:19
right,
1:19
all
1:19
right.
1:19
So
1:19
here
1:20
we
1:20
are
1:20
back
1:20
for
1:20
episode
1:21
two.
1:21
Derek,
1:22
we
1:22
made
1:22
it
1:22
all
1:23
the
1:23
way
1:23
to
1:23
episode
1:24
two.
1:25
It
1:25
was
1:25
in
1:25
doubt.
1:26
I
1:26
know
1:26
everyone
1:26
said
1:27
we'd
1:27
never
1:27
even
1:27
make
1:27
it
1:28
this
1:28
far,
1:28
but
1:28
we
1:28
did.
1:29
What's
1:30
the
1:30
old
1:30
rule,
1:30
Derek?
1:31
I
1:31
know
1:31
we've
1:31
talked
1:31
about
1:31
that
1:32
back.
1:32
In
1:32
the
1:32
day,
1:32
if
1:32
you
1:33
can
1:33
make.
1:33
It
1:33
seven,
1:34
you
1:34
make
1:34
it
1:34
seven,
1:35
you
1:35
can
1:35
make
1:35
it
1:35
forever.
1:36
Seven
1:36
episodes
1:37
is
1:37
the
1:37
threshold.
1:38
Yes.
1:39
Is
1:39
that
1:39
kind
1:40
of
1:40
like
1:40
one
1:40
of
1:40
those.
1:43
You
1:43
know
1:43
how
1:43
you'll
1:44
always
1:44
see
1:44
posts
1:44
on
1:45
Instagram
1:45
or
1:45
whatever,
1:45
where
1:46
it's
1:46
like
1:46
couples
1:46
that
1:47
work
1:47
out
1:47
together,
1:48
stay
1:48
together
1:48
forever
1:49
or
1:49
something
1:49
like
1:50
that?
1:50
I
1:50
also
1:50
saw
1:50
one
1:50
the
1:51
other
1:51
day
1:51
that
1:51
said
1:51
basically
1:52
that
1:52
couples
1:52
that
1:53
stay
1:53
apart,
1:54
like,
1:54
for
1:55
long
1:55
stretches
1:55
of
1:55
time
1:56
really
1:56
work
1:56
out
1:57
too.
1:57
Yes.
1:58
So
1:59
either
1:59
way,
1:59
maybe
2:00
just
2:00
either
2:00
way
2:00
you're
2:01
screwed.
2:01
Or
2:01
either
2:01
way
2:02
it's
2:02
gonna
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work.
2:02
Who
2:03
knows?
2:03
Different
2:03
strokes
2:04
for
2:04
different
2:04
folks.
2:05
But
2:05
we
2:05
made
2:06
it
2:06
to
2:06
episode
2:06
two.
2:07
But
2:07
what
2:07
you're
2:07
saying,
2:07
this
2:08
is
2:08
not
2:08
monumental.
2:09
This
2:09
is
2:09
not
2:09
a
2:09
big
2:10
milestone
2:10
for
2:10
us.
2:11
We've
2:11
got
2:11
to
2:11
get
2:11
to
2:11
seven.
2:12
We've
2:12
got
2:12
to
2:12
get
2:12
to
2:13
seven.
2:13
Okay,
2:13
so
2:13
we'll
2:14
hurry
2:14
through
2:14
this
2:14
one.
2:15
Let's
2:15
just
2:15
to
2:15
try
2:16
and
2:16
let's
2:16
do
2:16
all
2:17
seven
2:17
right
2:17
now.
2:17
Let's
2:17
binge
2:18
this
2:18
podcast.
2:18
Yes.
2:19
All
2:20
right,
2:20
so
2:21
the
2:21
second
2:21
episode,
2:22
as
2:22
you
2:22
heard
2:22
in
2:22
the
2:22
teaser,
2:23
is
2:23
about
2:23
the
2:23
1990
2:26
NCAA
2:27
National
2:27
Championship
2:28
game
2:28
in
2:29
specific,
2:29
which
2:30
was
2:30
the
2:30
UNLV
2:31
running
2:32
Rebels
2:32
against
2:32
the
2:33
Duke
2:33
Blue
2:33
Devils.
2:34
And.
2:35
But
2:35
we're
2:36
also
2:36
going
2:36
to
2:36
talk
2:36
a
2:37
little
2:37
bit
2:37
about
2:37
how
2:37
we
2:37
got
2:38
to
2:38
that
2:38
point,
2:39
as
2:39
well
2:39
as
2:39
a
2:39
little
2:40
bit
2:40
of
2:40
the
2:40
aftermath
2:40
of
2:41
that.
2:41
Just
2:41
because
2:41
I
2:41
think,
2:42
Derek,
2:42
that
2:42
this
2:43
team
2:43
to
2:43
me,
2:44
represented
2:45
so
2:45
much
2:45
culturally.
2:47
Not
2:47
only
2:48
did
2:48
they
2:49
kind
2:49
of
2:50
forever
2:50
change
2:51
just
2:51
the
2:51
landscape
2:52
of
2:52
basketball
2:53
in
2:53
my
2:53
mind,
2:53
but
2:54
they
2:54
really
2:54
were
2:54
one
2:55
of
2:55
those
2:55
first
2:55
teams
2:56
in
2:56
my
2:56
memory.
2:57
So
2:57
1990,
2:58
we're
2:58
talking
2:59
about
2:59
14
2:59
year
3:00
old
3:00
Scott.
3:00
Yep.
3:01
First
3:02
teams
3:02
in
3:02
my
3:02
memory
3:03
where
3:03
it
3:03
was
3:03
like
3:04
all
3:04
of
3:04
a
3:04
sudden
3:05
all
3:05
the
3:05
kids
3:05
at
3:05
my
3:06
school
3:07
were
3:07
wearing,
3:07
you
3:08
know,
3:08
UNLV
3:09
Running
3:09
Rebel
3:09
stuff,
3:10
you
3:10
know,
3:10
and
3:10
they
3:10
just
3:10
kind
3:11
of.
3:11
And
3:11
he
3:11
kind
3:12
of.
3:12
We
3:12
talked
3:12
about
3:12
how
3:12
it
3:13
kind
3:13
of
3:13
coincides
3:14
with
3:14
that
3:14
a
3:14
little
3:14
bit,
3:15
like
3:15
the
3:15
starter
3:15
jacket
3:16
and
3:17
the
3:17
hats
3:17
and
3:17
all
3:17
that
3:18
stuff.
3:18
And
3:18
all
3:19
of
3:19
a
3:19
sudden
3:19
though,
3:19
it
3:19
did
3:20
feel
3:20
like
3:20
there
3:20
was
3:20
UNLV
3:21
stuff
3:21
all
3:22
over
3:22
the
3:22
school
3:23
and
3:23
they
3:23
really
3:24
kind
3:24
of
3:24
made
3:25
this
3:25
giant
3:25
impact
3:25
because
3:27
they
3:27
kind
3:27
of
3:27
broke
3:28
the
3:28
mold
3:28
of
3:28
everything
3:29
we
3:29
saw
3:29
in
3:29
the
3:29
80s.
3:30
There
3:30
were
3:30
glimpses
3:31
of
3:31
what
3:31
was
3:32
to
3:32
come,
3:32
but
3:33
there
3:33
wasn't
3:33
really
3:34
like
3:34
this
3:34
whole
3:34
team
3:35
and
3:35
whole
3:35
unique
3:35
situation
3:36
that
3:36
was
3:36
going
3:36
on
3:36
in
3:37
Vegas.
3:37
Right.
3:38
If
3:38
you
3:38
look
3:39
at
3:39
college
3:39
basketball
3:40
like
3:40
the,
3:40
the,
3:41
the
3:41
era
3:42
of
3:42
the
3:42
personality
3:43
probably
3:43
started
3:44
with
3:45
Magic.
3:46
I
3:46
mean,
3:47
arguably
3:47
started
3:48
with
3:48
the,
3:48
with
3:48
the
3:49
UCLA
3:49
teams
3:49
in
3:49
the
3:50
mid-70s
3:50
with
3:50
Walton
3:51
and
3:51
Kareem
3:52
and
3:52
those
3:52
guys.
3:52
But
3:54
it.
3:56
To
3:56
have,
3:57
you
3:58
know,
3:58
there's
3:58
a
3:58
through
3:58
line
3:59
with,
3:59
you
4:00
know,
4:00
Ewing
4:01
and
4:01
Georgetown.
4:02
And
4:02
then
4:03
to
4:03
me,
4:03
you
4:04
know,
4:04
this
4:04
was
4:05
the
4:05
first
4:05
time
4:06
that
4:07
I
4:07
had
4:07
seen
4:07
guys
4:08
that
4:08
were
4:08
themselves.
4:09
Yes.
4:10
On
4:10
the
4:10
court
4:10
and
4:11
were
4:11
encouraged
4:11
to
4:12
be
4:12
themselves
4:12
on
4:12
the
4:13
court.
4:13
And
4:14
you
4:14
know,
4:14
they
4:14
played
4:15
a
4:15
very
4:16
fast,
4:16
loose
4:16
style
4:17
of
4:17
basketball
4:17
that
4:17
we
4:18
had
4:18
never
4:18
seen
4:18
before
4:19
in
4:20
college
4:20
basketball.
4:22
And
4:22
we're
4:22
going
4:22
to
4:22
talk
4:23
about
4:23
Tark,
4:23
but
4:23
Tark
4:24
was
4:24
a
4:24
genius
4:25
defensive
4:27
mind
4:28
when
4:28
it
4:28
came
4:28
to
4:28
the
4:28
hard
4:29
court.
4:29
And
4:30
then
4:30
he
4:30
gets
4:31
basically
4:31
these
4:32
five
4:32
athletes
4:33
that
4:34
just
4:35
gelled
4:36
in
4:37
an
4:37
incredible
4:37
way
4:38
and
4:38
put
4:39
together,
4:39
you
4:39
know,
4:40
arguably
4:41
the
4:41
greatest
4:42
team
4:43
that
4:43
we've
4:43
seen.
4:43
College
4:44
basketball
4:44
team
4:44
that
4:44
we've
4:44
seen
4:44
the
4:45
last
4:45
35
4:45
years.
4:45
Yeah.
4:46
And
4:46
one
4:47
that
4:47
really
4:47
did
4:48
it
4:48
in
4:48
a
4:48
way
4:49
that
4:49
was
4:50
just
4:50
almost
4:50
vicious
4:51
feeling
4:52
at
4:52
times.
4:52
And,
4:53
and
4:53
I
4:53
mean,
4:53
this
4:54
game,
4:54
which
4:54
we'll
4:54
get
4:55
to
4:55
here
4:55
in
4:55
a
4:55
bit,
4:56
is
4:56
no
4:56
exception
4:57
to
4:57
that,
4:57
you
4:57
know,
4:57
and
4:58
I
4:58
mean,
4:58
they,
4:58
they
4:59
were
4:59
just
5:00
absolutely
5:01
a
5:01
suffocating
5:02
defense
5:03
and
5:03
then
5:04
just
5:04
with
5:05
enough
5:05
scoring
5:06
power
5:06
to
5:06
boot.
5:06
I
5:07
mean,
5:07
on
5:07
any
5:07
given
5:07
night,
5:08
there
5:08
were
5:08
four
5:08
or
5:08
five
5:09
different
5:09
guys
5:09
on
5:09
this
5:10
team.
5:10
Now
5:10
again,
5:11
you
5:11
really
5:11
hear
5:12
Primari.
5:14
Three,
5:14
maybe
5:15
four,
5:15
and
5:15
only
5:16
one
5:16
of
5:16
those
5:16
being
5:17
the
5:17
point
5:17
guard
5:17
that
5:17
didn't
5:18
really
5:18
score
5:18
a
5:18
ton
5:19
usually,
5:19
but
5:20
just
5:21
a
5:21
really
5:21
different
5:21
team
5:22
for
5:22
sure.
5:22
And
5:22
I
5:23
mean,
5:23
I'll
5:23
preface
5:24
all
5:24
this
5:24
by
5:24
saying,
5:25
Derek
5:25
and
5:25
you
5:25
and
5:25
I
5:25
have
5:26
talked
5:26
about
5:26
this,
5:26
but
5:28
somehow,
5:29
even
5:29
though
5:30
I
5:30
fit
5:30
very
5:30
much
5:31
into.
5:32
I
5:32
Felt
5:32
like
5:33
in
5:33
terms
5:33
of
5:34
kids
5:34
of
5:34
that
5:34
time
5:35
that
5:35
would
5:35
have
5:36
been
5:36
rooting
5:36
for
5:36
UNLV
5:38
some
5:38
years
5:38
before
5:39
this,
5:39
I
5:39
had
5:39
somehow
5:40
attached
5:40
myself
5:41
to
5:41
the
5:41
Duke
5:41
Blue
5:41
Devils.
5:42
And
5:42
I
5:42
know
5:42
exactly
5:43
when
5:43
it
5:43
happened.
5:43
I
5:44
think
5:44
it
5:44
was
5:44
85,
5:45
maybe
5:45
86
5:46
when
5:46
they
5:46
lost
5:46
a
5:46
Louisville
5:47
in
5:47
the
5:47
final
5:47
game.
5:48
And
5:48
it
5:48
was
5:49
very
5:49
early,
5:50
very
5:51
influential
5:52
days
5:52
of
5:52
my
5:53
little
5:53
sports
5:54
brain
5:54
and
5:54
little
5:54
Scott's
5:55
head.
5:55
And
5:56
somehow
5:56
I
5:57
just
5:57
really
5:57
thought,
5:57
man,
5:58
this
5:58
Duke
5:58
team
5:58
is
5:59
amazing.
5:59
Did
5:59
you
5:59
see
5:59
Jay
6:00
Billis?
6:00
And
6:00
you
6:00
were
6:01
like,
6:01
God,
6:01
I
6:02
don't.
6:02
Think
6:02
it
6:02
was
6:02
J.
6:02
Billis.
6:03
I
6:04
don't
6:04
even
6:04
think
6:04
it
6:04
was
6:04
Coach
6:05
K.
6:05
Even
6:05
though
6:06
now
6:06
I
6:06
think
6:06
Coach
6:07
K
6:07
is
6:07
amazing.
6:08
I
6:08
think
6:08
looking
6:08
at
6:09
old
6:09
videos
6:09
of
6:09
him
6:10
back
6:10
then,
6:10
it
6:10
was
6:10
kind
6:11
of
6:11
like,
6:11
this
6:11
isn't
6:11
what
6:11
attracted
6:12
me
6:12
to
6:12
Duke
6:12
basketball,
6:13
I
6:13
don't
6:13
think.
6:13
But
6:14
nonetheless.
6:15
So
6:15
it
6:15
was
6:15
a
6:15
little
6:15
bit
6:15
of
6:15
a
6:16
perplexing
6:16
situation.
6:17
Situation.
6:17
I
6:17
felt
6:17
like
6:17
in
6:18
my
6:18
own
6:18
childhood
6:19
of
6:20
everything
6:21
I
6:21
was
6:22
about
6:22
in
6:22
school
6:23
and
6:23
kind
6:23
of
6:23
the
6:23
culture
6:24
that
6:24
was
6:24
in
6:24
our
6:25
school
6:25
was
6:25
very
6:26
much
6:26
aligned
6:26
with
6:27
UNLV
6:28
and
6:28
kind
6:29
of
6:29
this
6:29
fun,
6:30
up
6:30
tempo
6:32
almost.
6:32
I
6:33
mean
6:33
hip
6:33
hop
6:33
would
6:34
be
6:34
the
6:34
soundtrack
6:34
to
6:35
their
6:35
game
6:35
really.
6:36
And
6:36
that's
6:36
what
6:36
was
6:36
taking
6:36
over
6:37
youth
6:38
culture,
6:38
at
6:38
least
6:39
for
6:39
me
6:39
at
6:39
that
6:39
point.
6:40
But
6:40
nonetheless,
6:40
I
6:41
will
6:41
say
6:42
I
6:42
was
6:42
rooting
6:42
for
6:43
the
6:43
Duke
6:43
Blue
6:43
Devils
6:44
in
6:44
this
6:44
game.
6:44
Unfortunately.
6:45
That's
6:45
really
6:45
interesting
6:46
to
6:46
me
6:46
because
6:46
I
6:47
was
6:47
the
6:47
opposite.
6:47
Yeah,
6:48
hated
6:48
Duke
6:49
and
6:49
then
6:49
really
6:49
grew
6:50
to
6:50
enjoy
6:51
watching
6:51
them,
6:52
you
6:52
know,
6:52
as
6:53
I,
6:53
yeah.
6:54
Got
6:54
older.
6:54
Well,
6:55
and
6:55
you
6:55
know,
6:55
the
6:55
30
6:56
for
6:56
30
6:56
that
6:57
I
6:57
think
6:57
about
6:57
with
6:58
that
6:58
is
7:00
the
7:00
I
7:00
hate
7:00
Christian
7:01
Leitner
7:01
because
7:02
they
7:02
really
7:02
get
7:03
into
7:03
that
7:03
and
7:03
they
7:04
really
7:04
talk
7:04
about
7:04
how
7:05
the
7:05
culture.
7:05
And
7:05
again,
7:06
that
7:06
one
7:07
is,
7:07
is
7:07
not
7:08
necessarily
7:08
aimed
7:09
at
7:09
UNLV
7:10
by
7:10
any
7:10
means,
7:10
but
7:11
really
7:11
just
7:11
more
7:11
the
7:12
hatred
7:12
of
7:12
Duke
7:13
and
7:13
kind
7:13
of
7:14
what
7:14
that
7:14
divide
7:15
was
7:15
from
7:15
a
7:15
cult
7:16
standpoint,
7:17
you
7:17
know,
7:17
and
7:17
who
7:17
like
7:18
Duke
7:18
and
7:18
what
7:18
they
7:18
were
7:19
seen
7:19
as,
7:19
which
7:20
it
7:20
was
7:20
kind
7:20
of
7:20
like
7:20
goody
7:21
two
7:21
shoes
7:21
preppy
7:23
white
7:23
kids
7:25
that
7:26
were
7:26
in
7:27
this
7:27
ex.
7:27
Very
7:28
rich
7:29
program
7:29
going
7:29
to
7:30
a
7:30
private
7:30
school
7:30
that
7:31
probably
7:32
costs,
7:32
you
7:32
know,
7:33
I
7:33
don't
7:33
know,
7:33
a
7:33
hundred
7:34
thousand
7:34
dollars
7:34
a
7:34
year
7:34
to
7:35
send
7:35
a
7:35
kid
7:35
to
7:36
and
7:36
small
7:37
school
7:37
and
7:37
all
7:38
the
7:38
things
7:38
that
7:38
were
7:38
kind
7:39
of
7:39
against
7:39
what
7:40
was
7:40
popular
7:40
in
7:40
culture
7:41
at
7:41
that
7:41
time.
7:43
But
7:44
the.
7:44
Yeah,
7:44
somehow
7:45
I
7:45
had
7:46
already
7:46
hitched
7:46
my
7:47
wagon
7:47
and
7:47
it
7:47
wasn't
7:48
something
7:48
I
7:48
could
7:49
bail
7:49
on
7:49
for
7:50
whatever
7:50
reason.
7:51
So
7:51
even
7:52
though,
7:52
I
7:53
mean,
7:53
I
7:53
even
7:53
think
7:53
14
7:54
year
7:54
old
7:54
Scott
7:54
would
7:55
have
7:55
told
7:55
you
7:55
UNLV
7:56
is
7:57
really
7:57
fun.
7:57
This
7:58
is
7:58
fun
7:58
basketball,
7:59
you
7:59
know,
7:59
and
7:59
this
8:00
is
8:00
amazing.
8:00
I
8:00
felt
8:00
like
8:01
they
8:01
were
8:01
a
8:02
popular
8:03
Saturday
8:03
afternoon
8:04
choice
8:05
for
8:05
CBS
8:06
Yeah.
8:07
So
8:07
that
8:07
they
8:08
like,
8:08
you
8:09
know,
8:09
you're.
8:09
You
8:09
get
8:09
done
8:10
with
8:10
the
8:10
school
8:10
week
8:10
Saturday
8:11
at
8:11
2
8:12
or
8:12
you
8:12
know,
8:13
like
8:13
UNLV
8:14
would
8:14
be
8:14
playing
8:15
some
8:15
west
8:15
coast
8:15
team
8:16
that
8:16
they
8:16
were
8:16
going
8:16
to
8:16
beat
8:16
by
8:17
50
8:17
points.
8:17
Yeah.
8:18
And
8:19
it
8:19
was
8:19
like,
8:20
it
8:20
was
8:20
almost
8:20
like
8:20
appointment
8:21
viewing
8:21
because
8:22
you
8:22
got
8:22
out
8:23
of
8:23
bed,
8:23
you
8:23
got
8:23
to
8:23
have
8:24
that
8:24
early
8:25
part
8:25
of
8:25
your
8:26
Saturday
8:26
and
8:26
then
8:27
get
8:27
to
8:27
watch
8:27
UNLV
8:28
and
8:28
then
8:28
go
8:28
hoop
8:28
until
8:29
the
8:29
sun
8:29
went
8:29
down.
8:30
And
8:30
it
8:31
was
8:31
like
8:31
the
8:31
best.
8:31
Pretending
8:32
you
8:32
were
8:32
Larry
8:33
Johnson.
8:33
Oh
8:33
yeah.
8:33
100.
8:34
Here's
8:35
another
8:35
little
8:35
known
8:36
fact
8:36
about
8:36
me
8:36
before
8:37
we
8:37
dive
8:37
a
8:37
little
8:37
bit
8:37
more
8:38
into
8:38
what
8:38
we're
8:38
supposed
8:39
to
8:39
be
8:39
talking
8:39
about
8:39
today
8:40
is
8:41
I
8:41
never,
8:41
you
8:41
know,
8:42
so
8:42
for
8:42
those
8:43
listening,
8:45
I'm
8:45
a
8:45
bigger
8:45
guy.
8:46
I'm
8:46
six
8:47
foot
8:47
three.
8:47
Probably
8:48
at
8:48
this
8:48
point
8:49
in
8:49
my
8:49
life
8:49
I
8:49
was
8:49
already
8:50
classified
8:50
as
8:51
an
8:51
offensive
8:51
lineman.
8:52
Right.
8:53
And
8:53
it
8:53
wasn't
8:53
a
8:53
choice
8:54
or
8:54
whatever,
8:54
you
8:55
know,
8:56
and,
8:57
but
8:57
I
8:58
all.
8:58
And
8:58
I've
8:58
loved
8:59
basketball
9:00
for
9:00
as
9:00
long
9:00
as
9:00
I
9:00
can
9:01
remember.
9:01
I
9:01
would,
9:01
you
9:02
know,
9:02
baseball
9:02
is
9:02
my
9:03
biggest
9:03
and,
9:03
and
9:04
my
9:04
true
9:04
love
9:05
in
9:05
terms
9:05
of
9:05
sports.
9:06
But
9:06
man,
9:07
I've
9:07
always
9:07
loved
9:08
basketball
9:08
and
9:09
I've
9:09
always
9:09
been
9:09
a
9:09
big
9:09
fan
9:10
of
9:10
it
9:10
and
9:10
loved
9:11
playing
9:11
back
9:12
back
9:12
in
9:12
the
9:12
day.
9:13
But
9:13
I
9:14
would
9:14
always
9:14
in
9:15
my
9:15
mind
9:16
be
9:16
the
9:16
point
9:16
guard.
9:18
So
9:18
even
9:18
on
9:18
this
9:19
team,
9:19
Greg
9:19
Anthony,
9:20
even
9:20
though
9:21
how
9:21
could
9:21
no
9:21
one
9:22
want
9:22
to
9:22
be
9:22
Larry
9:23
Johnson?
9:23
Right,
9:24
right.
9:24
I
9:24
mean,
9:24
especially
9:25
when
9:25
you're
9:25
already
9:26
built.
9:26
Like
9:26
I
9:27
was
9:27
not
9:27
the
9:27
same
9:28
level
9:28
of
9:28
brick
9:28
wall.
9:29
I
9:29
was
9:29
like
9:29
a
9:29
brick
9:30
wall,
9:31
my
9:31
daughter
9:31
would
9:31
say,
9:32
with
9:32
a
9:32
pillow
9:32
coating
9:33
probably
9:33
or
9:34
something
9:34
like
9:34
that.
9:34
But
9:35
nonetheless,
9:37
you
9:37
know,
9:37
I
9:37
always
9:38
thought
9:39
back
9:39
on
9:39
this
9:39
team
9:39
and
9:39
especially
9:40
as
9:40
we
9:40
went
9:40
back
9:40
in
9:41
preparation
9:41
for
9:41
this
9:41
and
9:42
re.
9:42
Watched
9:42
some
9:42
of
9:42
the
9:42
games,
9:43
man,
9:43
I
9:43
loved
9:44
Greg
9:44
Anthony,
9:45
absolutely
9:45
loved
9:46
him.
9:46
And
9:46
I
9:46
mean
9:46
he
9:47
did
9:47
the,
9:47
the
9:48
take
9:48
charge
9:48
leadership
9:49
is
9:49
just
9:49
evident
9:50
in
9:50
these
9:51
games
9:51
now.
9:51
And
9:52
I
9:52
don't
9:52
even
9:52
know
9:52
that
9:52
that's
9:52
what
9:53
I
9:53
realized
9:53
back
9:53
then,
9:54
but
9:54
I
9:54
just
9:55
really
9:55
think
9:55
it
9:55
was.
9:56
And
9:56
maybe
9:56
it
9:56
was
9:57
some
9:57
weird
9:57
complex
9:57
where
9:58
I
9:58
wanted
9:58
to
9:58
be
9:58
a
9:59
little
9:59
guy,
9:59
I
9:59
don't
10:00
know.
10:00
But
10:00
I
10:01
always
10:01
thought
10:01
of
10:01
myself
10:02
as.
10:02
The
10:02
point
10:02
guard
10:03
you
10:03
foresaw.
10:04
Luca.
10:04
Well,
10:05
I
10:05
tell
10:05
you
10:05
what,
10:05
it
10:05
was
10:05
too
10:06
is
10:06
like
10:06
early.
10:07
Early
10:07
too
10:08
was
10:08
Magic.
10:09
I
10:09
mean,
10:09
I
10:09
just
10:10
loved
10:10
Magic
10:10
Johnson
10:11
and
10:11
the
10:11
Lakers
10:11
and
10:12
Magic
10:12
Johnson
10:13
wasn't
10:13
built
10:13
like
10:14
everyone
10:14
else.
10:15
I
10:15
mean
10:15
you
10:15
would
10:15
watch
10:15
them
10:16
play
10:16
the
10:16
Pistons
10:16
and
10:16
Vinnie
10:17
Johnson
10:17
or
10:17
even
10:17
Isaiah
10:18
Thomas,
10:18
whoever
10:19
was
10:19
running
10:19
point
10:19
or
10:20
whatever,
10:21
and
10:22
it
10:22
would
10:22
just
10:22
look
10:22
like,
10:23
oh,
10:23
he's
10:23
a
10:23
monster
10:24
compared
10:24
to
10:24
them.
10:24
And
10:25
so
10:25
obviously
10:25
big
10:25
guys
10:26
can
10:26
play
10:26
point
10:27
guard.
10:27
So
10:28
I
10:28
kind
10:28
of
10:28
fashioned
10:29
myself
10:29
as
10:30
the
10:31
unathletic
10:33
pasty
10:34
Magic
10:35
Johnson
10:35
of
10:36
my
10:36
neighborhood.
10:37
And
10:37
when
10:37
people
10:38
would
10:38
like
10:38
say,
10:38
hey
10:39
man,
10:39
go
10:39
down
10:40
low
10:40
and
10:40
push
10:40
that
10:40
guy
10:41
around.
10:41
You've
10:41
got
10:42
50
10:42
pounds
10:42
and
10:43
2
10:43
inches
10:43
on
10:43
him.
10:43
Like,
10:43
no,
10:44
you
10:44
go
10:44
down
10:44
low
10:45
and
10:45
I'll
10:45
feed
10:45
you.
10:46
You
10:46
don't
10:46
know
10:46
what
10:47
your
10:47
role
10:47
is.
10:47
One
10:48
handed
10:48
dishes,
10:49
just
10:49
ready
10:50
to
10:50
be
10:50
exactly.
10:51
Just
10:51
ready
10:51
to
10:52
be
10:52
doled
10:52
out.
10:52
Yeah.
10:53
And
10:53
I
10:53
did
10:53
have
10:53
some
10:54
very
10:54
staple
10:55
passes,
10:57
you
10:57
know,
10:57
that
10:57
were
10:57
almost
10:58
like
10:58
after
10:58
a
10:58
while,
10:59
like
10:59
I
10:59
feel
10:59
like
11:00
my
11:00
buddy
11:00
Bart,
11:00
who
11:01
was
11:01
someone
11:02
I
11:02
played
11:02
with
11:02
a
11:02
lot
11:03
through
11:03
high
11:03
school
11:04
would
11:04
say,
11:04
like
11:04
once
11:05
you
11:05
kind
11:05
of
11:05
figure
11:05
out
11:06
what
11:06
the
11:06
two
11:06
things
11:07
Scott
11:07
can
11:07
do
11:08
as
11:08
a
11:08
point
11:08
guard
11:10
and,
11:10
and
11:10
the
11:10
fact
11:11
that
11:11
he
11:11
can't
11:11
dribble
11:12
left.
11:12
Right.
11:13
I
11:13
mean
11:13
he's
11:13
not.
11:13
It's
11:14
not
11:14
going
11:14
to
11:14
be
11:14
a
11:15
problem.
11:15
And
11:15
so
11:15
then
11:16
at
11:16
that
11:16
point
11:16
I
11:16
became
11:17
a
11:17
very
11:17
body
11:18
point
11:18
guard.
11:18
Right.
11:19
Like,
11:19
because
11:19
I
11:19
couldn't
11:19
you
11:20
just
11:20
back
11:20
him,
11:20
get
11:21
my
11:21
way
11:21
with
11:21
finesse.
11:22
It
11:22
was
11:22
almost
11:22
like
11:23
I
11:23
would
11:23
just
11:23
body
11:23
my
11:24
way
11:24
through
11:24
to
11:24
the
11:25
basket
11:25
and
11:25
then
11:26
dish
11:26
it.
11:26
I
11:27
would
11:27
get
11:27
down
11:27
there,
11:27
do
11:27
all
11:28
the
11:28
work
11:28
and
11:28
then
11:28
dish
11:28
it.
11:28
Well,
11:29
that's
11:29
what
11:29
your.
11:29
That
11:29
was
11:29
your
11:30
job.
11:30
Especially
11:30
in
11:31
the
11:31
early
11:31
90s.
11:32
That
11:32
was
11:32
the
11:32
role.
11:33
That's
11:33
right.
11:33
You
11:33
weren't
11:34
supposed
11:34
to
11:34
score
11:34
at
11:34
that
11:35
point.
11:35
Yeah.
11:36
So
11:37
again,
11:37
just
11:38
a
11:38
fun
11:38
team.
11:38
You
11:38
did
11:39
talk
11:39
a
11:39
little
11:39
bit
11:39
about
11:40
Tark
11:40
and
11:40
I
11:41
found,
11:41
you
11:41
know,
11:41
myself
11:42
really
11:42
thinking
11:44
a
11:44
lot
11:44
with
11:45
Jerry
11:45
Tarkanian.
11:46
And
11:47
again,
11:48
I
11:48
think
11:49
a
11:49
lot
11:49
of
11:49
the
11:49
things
11:50
on
11:50
as
11:50
we
11:50
get
11:51
into
11:51
this
11:51
podcast
11:52
and
11:52
more
11:52
episodes
11:53
in,
11:53
especially
11:53
once
11:54
we
11:54
get
11:54
past
11:54
that
11:54
vaunted
11:55
number
11:55
seven
11:55
will
11:56
be
11:56
in
11:57
hindsight,
11:58
right?
11:58
In
11:58
hindsight,
12:00
Jerry
12:00
Tarkanian
12:01
had
12:01
been
12:01
at
12:01
UNLV
12:02
for
12:02
about
12:03
two
12:03
or
12:03
three
12:03
years
12:03
before
12:04
all
12:04
this
12:04
happened
12:04
and
12:05
it
12:05
kind
12:05
of
12:05
just
12:05
all
12:06
got
12:06
pulled
12:06
together.
12:06
But
12:07
Tart
12:07
got
12:08
there
12:08
in
12:08
1973
12:10
and
12:10
had
12:11
been
12:11
there
12:11
a
12:11
long
12:11
time
12:12
and
12:12
had
12:12
experienced
12:13
some
12:13
success
12:13
through
12:14
the
12:14
70s.
12:14
He
12:14
did
12:15
have
12:15
one
12:15
little
12:16
weird
12:16
like
12:17
four
12:17
season
12:17
run,
12:18
I
12:18
think
12:18
where
12:18
they
12:18
didn't
12:19
make
12:19
it
12:19
to
12:19
the
12:19
tournament
12:20
in
12:20
the
12:20
late
12:21
70s,
12:21
but
12:21
really
12:22
had
12:22
had
12:22
a
12:22
lot
12:23
of
12:23
success.
12:24
And.
12:25
But
12:25
I
12:25
have
12:26
again,
12:27
it's
12:27
hitting
12:28
right
12:28
at
12:28
that
12:28
point
12:28
I
12:29
was
12:29
14
12:29
and
12:29
19,
12:30
9.
12:30
But
12:30
I
12:30
have
12:30
no
12:31
recollection
12:31
of
12:32
UNLV
12:33
to
12:33
the
12:34
point
12:34
of.
12:34
I
12:34
jokingly
12:35
would
12:35
think
12:36
at
12:36
some
12:37
point
12:37
in
12:37
1989
12:38
I
12:38
had
12:39
to
12:39
say
12:40
what
12:40
the
12:40
hell
12:40
is
12:40
UNLV?
12:42
Like
12:42
what
12:43
is
12:43
this
12:43
and
12:43
where
12:43
is
12:44
this?
12:44
Or
12:44
whatever.
12:44
You
12:45
know,
12:46
just
12:46
because
12:46
I
12:46
felt
12:47
like
12:47
in
12:47
my
12:47
mind
12:47
they
12:48
just
12:48
burst
12:48
onto
12:49
the
12:49
scene.
12:49
But
12:50
again,
12:50
that's
12:50
probably
12:50
a
12:50
little
12:51
bit
12:51
in
12:51
Scott's
12:52
sports
12:52
development
12:53
brain,
12:53
just
12:53
getting
12:54
to
12:54
the
12:54
point
12:54
of
12:54
paying
12:55
attention.
12:56
And
12:56
that
12:56
probably
12:57
also
12:57
speaks
12:57
to
12:58
the
12:58
reach
12:59
of
12:59
the
13:00
media.
13:00
We
13:00
did
13:00
not
13:01
have
13:01
ESPN2
13:02
at
13:02
the
13:02
time
13:02
or
13:02
ESPN
13:03
you.
13:04
So
13:04
ESPN.
13:05
If
13:05
they.
13:05
If
13:06
it
13:06
wasn't
13:06
on
13:06
ESPN,
13:07
you
13:07
weren't
13:07
seeing
13:07
it.
13:07
Yeah.
13:08
And.
13:09
And
13:09
the
13:09
CBS
13:10
of
13:10
the
13:10
world
13:10
didn't
13:10
pick
13:11
them
13:11
up
13:11
until
13:12
this
13:12
crew
13:13
showed
13:13
up.
13:13
Yeah.
13:14
You
13:14
know,
13:14
so
13:15
you're
13:15
not.
13:15
And
13:16
even
13:16
then,
13:16
it
13:16
was
13:17
probably
13:17
very
13:17
limited
13:18
because
13:18
they
13:18
were
13:18
playing
13:18
the
13:19
West
13:19
Coast
13:19
Conference.
13:19
They're
13:20
playing,
13:21
you
13:21
know,
13:21
teams
13:22
that
13:22
we
13:23
knew
13:23
even
13:23
less
13:23
about
13:24
than
13:24
unlv.
13:25
So
13:26
we
13:26
didn't.
13:26
We
13:26
weren't
13:26
following
13:27
UC
13:27
Santa
13:28
Barbara
13:28
that
13:28
closely.
13:29
Weren't
13:29
following
13:29
the
13:29
Banana
13:30
Slugs.
13:30
Yeah.
13:31
So,
13:32
you
13:32
know,
13:32
it
13:32
just.
13:33
It
13:33
wasn't
13:34
something
13:34
that
13:34
was
13:35
available
13:35
to
13:36
us,
13:36
especially
13:37
a
13:37
couple
13:37
of
13:37
guys
13:38
in
13:38
Texas
13:38
at
13:38
that
13:39
time
13:39
who,
13:40
you
13:40
know,
13:40
are
13:41
just
13:42
worried
13:42
about
13:42
Rolando
13:43
Blackman
13:43
and,
13:44
you
13:44
know,
13:45
Maria
13:45
Cheeks.
13:46
Exactly.
13:46
Whoever
13:46
played
13:47
for
13:47
the
13:47
Rockets
13:47
at
13:48
that
13:48
time.
13:48
Exactly.
13:49
I
13:49
mean,
13:49
for
13:49
me,
13:49
I
13:50
would
13:50
say
13:50
it
13:50
was.
13:50
Yeah,
13:51
any.
13:51
It
13:51
was
13:51
probably
13:52
just
13:52
beginning
13:52
to
13:52
be
13:53
the
13:53
Rockets,
13:53
but
13:53
way
13:54
more
13:54
so
13:55
on
13:55
a
13:55
bigger
13:56
level,
13:56
I
13:56
would
13:56
say
13:56
it
13:57
was
13:57
the
13:57
Lakers,
13:57
probably,
13:58
and
13:58
just
13:58
paying
13:59
attention
13:59
to
13:59
that.
14:00
So.
14:01
So
14:01
Tark
14:02
comes
14:03
to
14:03
UNLV
14:04
in
14:04
1973.
14:05
I
14:05
did
14:05
find.
14:05
I
14:06
found
14:06
a
14:06
really
14:06
interesting
14:07
story
14:07
about
14:08
how
14:08
they
14:08
went
14:09
about
14:09
recruiting
14:09
Tark
14:10
because
14:10
they.
14:11
They
14:11
apparently
14:11
had
14:12
been
14:12
watching
14:12
him
14:12
from.
14:13
For
14:13
a
14:13
couple
14:13
years
14:14
from
14:14
afar,
14:14
and
14:14
he
14:14
was
14:15
gaining
14:15
a
14:15
lot
14:15
of
14:16
notoriety
14:16
as
14:17
being
14:17
this
14:17
kind
14:17
of
14:18
new
14:18
approach,
14:19
groundbreaking
14:19
coach.
14:21
And
14:22
so
14:23
they
14:23
reach
14:23
out
14:23
to
14:23
him
14:24
and
14:24
say,
14:24
hey,
14:24
what
14:24
do
14:25
you
14:25
think
14:25
about
14:25
coming
14:25
over
14:26
to
14:26
UNLV
14:26
and
14:27
being
14:27
the
14:27
head
14:27
coach
14:27
of
14:27
the
14:27
Running
14:28
Rebels?
14:28
And
14:29
Jerry
14:29
says,
14:29
no,
14:30
I'm
14:30
good.
14:30
I'm
14:31
good.
14:31
I
14:31
don't
14:31
think
14:31
that's
14:32
a
14:32
basketball
14:32
town,
14:33
I
14:33
don't
14:33
think,
14:34
you
14:34
know,
14:34
and.
14:35
And
14:35
really,
14:35
it
14:36
makes
14:36
sense,
14:36
really,
14:36
considering.
14:38
But
14:38
then
14:39
they
14:39
take
14:39
an
14:39
interesting
14:40
approach,
14:40
and
14:41
they
14:41
decide,
14:42
we're
14:42
going
14:43
to
14:43
recruit
14:43
the
14:43
wife
14:44
harder
14:45
than
14:45
we
14:45
recruit
14:46
the
14:46
coach,
14:46
because
14:47
if
14:47
we
14:47
can
14:47
get
14:47
the
14:48
wife
14:48
to
14:48
say,
14:48
yeah,
14:49
I
14:49
want
14:49
to
14:49
be
14:49
there,
14:50
you
14:50
know,
14:50
then
14:51
maybe
14:51
that'll
14:51
help.
14:51
So
14:52
they
14:52
took
14:52
that
14:52
approach
14:52
with
14:53
Lois,
14:53
who
14:53
was
14:53
Jerry's
14:54
wife,
14:54
and
14:55
eventually
14:55
won
14:55
them
14:56
both
14:56
over.
14:56
And
14:56
he
14:56
ends
14:57
up
14:57
at
14:57
UNLV
14:58
as
14:58
the
14:58
head
14:58
coach
14:58
in
14:58
1973.
14:59
And.
15:00
And,
15:00
like
15:00
I
15:00
said,
15:01
had
15:01
some
15:01
immediate
15:01
success,
15:02
but
15:04
really,
15:04
I
15:04
would
15:04
say
15:05
starting
15:05
in
15:06
the
15:06
early
15:06
80s
15:07
is
15:07
when
15:07
they
15:07
really
15:08
started
15:08
just
15:08
putting
15:08
together
15:09
runs
15:09
of
15:09
back
15:10
to
15:10
back,
15:10
and
15:10
they
15:10
made
15:11
it
15:11
to
15:11
the
15:11
Final
15:11
Four
15:11
a
15:12
few
15:12
times
15:12
throughout
15:13
the
15:13
80s.
15:14
And
15:14
then
15:14
it
15:14
kind
15:14
of
15:15
culminates
15:15
with.
15:16
This
15:16
in
15:16
1990,
15:17
and
15:17
he
15:17
really
15:18
becomes
15:18
a
15:18
pillar
15:19
of
15:20
the
15:20
community.
15:20
And,
15:21
you
15:21
know,
15:21
there's
15:22
a
15:22
Bigger
15:22
conversation
15:23
to
15:23
have
15:23
about
15:23
what
15:24
Vegas
15:24
was
15:24
going
15:24
through
15:25
in
15:25
the
15:25
80s.
15:26
But,
15:26
you
15:26
know,
15:26
it
15:27
started
15:27
to
15:27
dip
15:28
quite
15:28
a
15:28
bit.
15:28
And,
15:29
you
15:29
know,
15:30
the
15:30
reputation.
15:31
I
15:31
think
15:31
that
15:32
kind
15:32
of
15:32
was
15:32
put
15:33
on
15:33
Tark
15:33
a
15:33
little
15:34
bit
15:34
with
15:34
the
15:34
reputation
15:35
of
15:35
Vegas
15:35
at
15:35
that
15:36
time,
15:36
because
15:36
it
15:37
wasn't
15:37
what
15:38
it
15:38
is.
15:38
You
15:38
know,
15:39
what
15:39
it
15:39
eventually
15:39
became,
15:40
which
15:40
was
15:40
like
15:41
America's
15:42
adult,
15:42
you
15:43
know,
15:43
mall.
15:43
Yeah.
15:44
Where
15:44
basically
15:44
it
15:45
was
15:45
like,
15:45
come
15:45
shop
15:45
here
15:46
and
15:46
drop
15:46
your
15:46
coin
15:47
and
15:47
all
15:47
that
15:47
good
15:47
stuff.
15:48
Like,
15:48
it
15:49
still
15:49
had
15:49
a
15:49
little
15:49
bit
15:50
of
15:50
a
15:50
stigma
15:50
to
15:50
it.
15:51
Yeah.
15:51
And
15:51
I
15:52
think
15:52
that
15:52
kind
15:52
of
15:52
bled
15:52
onto
15:53
Tark,
15:53
but
15:53
he
15:53
also
15:54
embraced
15:54
it.
15:55
And
15:55
I
15:55
think
15:55
that
15:56
that
15:56
kind
15:56
of,
15:57
you
15:58
know,
15:58
bravado
15:59
helped
16:00
and
16:00
hurt
16:00
him
16:01
in
16:01
equal
16:01
parts
16:02
with
16:02
regard
16:03
to
16:03
the
16:03
ncaa,
16:04
but
16:04
also
16:04
with
16:04
regard
16:05
to
16:05
recruits
16:05
because
16:05
they
16:06
were
16:06
like,
16:06
oh,
16:07
we
16:07
can
16:07
go
16:07
to
16:07
school
16:07
in
16:08
Vegas
16:08
and
16:08
play
16:08
for
16:08
this
16:08
guy,
16:09
who
16:10
by
16:10
all
16:10
accounts
16:11
was.
16:11
Was
16:11
a
16:11
father
16:12
figure
16:12
to
16:12
a
16:12
lot
16:12
of
16:12
these
16:13
kids.
16:13
He
16:13
did
16:13
not
16:14
shy
16:15
away
16:15
from
16:15
kids
16:16
that
16:16
had
16:17
problems.
16:18
You
16:18
know,
16:18
he
16:18
was
16:18
very
16:19
much
16:19
a
16:19
second
16:19
chance
16:20
guy
16:20
for
16:20
a
16:20
lot
16:20
of
16:20
these
16:20
guys.
16:21
It
16:21
did
16:21
bite
16:22
him
16:22
at
16:22
times
16:23
and
16:23
really
16:24
cause
16:24
problems,
16:25
especially
16:25
with
16:26
the
16:26
ncaa,
16:26
because
16:26
they
16:26
were
16:26
looking
16:26
for
16:27
anything.
16:27
But,
16:28
you
16:28
know,
16:28
there.
16:28
There
16:29
was.
16:29
There
16:29
was
16:30
so
16:30
much.
16:31
There
16:31
was
16:31
a
16:31
lot
16:32
to
16:32
admire
16:32
about
16:33
the
16:33
guy.
16:33
Definitely
16:34
he
16:34
was
16:34
the
16:34
perfect
16:35
coach
16:35
for
16:35
the
16:35
situation
16:36
because
16:36
of
16:37
that,
16:37
I
16:37
think.
16:37
Because
16:38
I
16:38
think
16:38
they
16:38
knew
16:39
that
16:39
they
16:39
needed
16:39
success
16:40
in
16:40
basketball
16:40
to
16:41
kind
16:41
of
16:41
push
16:41
the
16:41
whole
16:42
image
16:42
of
16:42
the
16:42
whole
16:42
school,
16:43
really.
16:44
And
16:44
he
16:44
was
16:44
not
16:45
a
16:45
conf.
16:45
You
16:45
know,
16:46
he
16:46
didn't.
16:46
He
16:46
wasn't
16:46
going
16:46
to
16:47
come
16:47
in
16:47
and
16:47
conform
16:48
to,
16:48
like,
16:49
this
16:49
is
16:49
the
16:50
image
16:50
we
16:50
want,
16:50
you
16:51
know,
16:51
we
16:51
need
16:51
you
16:52
to
16:52
be
16:52
Dean
16:52
Smith,
16:53
like,
16:53
or
16:54
Coach
16:54
K
16:54
like,
16:55
or
16:55
anything
16:55
like
16:55
that.
16:56
And
16:56
you're
16:56
right,
16:57
he
16:57
came
16:57
in
16:57
and
16:58
he.
16:58
And
16:58
he
16:59
was
16:59
really
16:59
open
17:00
arms
17:00
on
17:01
the
17:01
players
17:02
that
17:02
he
17:02
was
17:02
willing
17:02
to
17:03
look
17:03
at,
17:03
which
17:03
sometimes
17:04
can
17:04
be
17:04
viewed
17:05
as,
17:05
well,
17:06
he's
17:06
going
17:06
after,
17:07
you
17:07
know,
17:08
the
17:08
kids
17:08
that
17:09
are
17:09
great
17:09
basketball
17:10
players
17:10
but
17:10
don't
17:10
have
17:10
what
17:11
it
17:11
takes
17:11
to
17:11
be
17:11
at
17:11
a
17:11
university
17:12
or
17:12
whatever.
17:12
And
17:13
that's.
17:13
I
17:14
feel
17:14
like
17:14
it's
17:14
often
17:15
got
17:15
the
17:15
stigma
17:15
of
17:16
he's
17:16
just
17:16
trying
17:16
to,
17:17
you
17:17
know,
17:18
curtail
17:18
the
17:18
system
17:19
and
17:19
win.
17:19
Right.
17:19
Or
17:20
kind
17:20
of
17:20
cheat
17:20
the
17:20
system
17:21
and
17:21
win
17:21
or
17:21
whatever.
17:22
But
17:22
I
17:23
really
17:23
don't
17:23
think
17:23
that
17:23
was
17:24
it.
17:24
I
17:24
mean,
17:24
I
17:24
do
17:25
think
17:25
that
17:25
a
17:25
lot
17:25
of
17:25
these
17:25
coaches
17:26
are
17:26
truly,
17:26
like
17:27
you
17:27
said,
17:27
second
17:27
chance,
17:28
third
17:28
chance,
17:28
wherever
17:29
it
17:29
might
17:29
be.
17:29
But
17:30
everyone
17:30
deserves
17:31
that
17:31
opportunity,
17:32
and
17:32
especially
17:32
when
17:33
they've
17:33
got
17:33
this
17:33
skill
17:34
that
17:34
can
17:34
help
17:34
them
17:35
financially
17:35
cover
17:36
that.
17:36
You
17:36
would
17:37
almost
17:37
hope
17:37
they
17:37
come
17:38
into
17:38
this
17:38
situation
17:39
and
17:39
grow
17:40
and
17:40
are
17:41
able
17:41
to,
17:41
you
17:42
know,
17:43
move
17:43
on
17:43
from
17:43
there.
17:44
A
17:44
better
17:44
person,
17:44
whether
17:44
that
17:45
be
17:45
with
17:45
a
17:45
degree
17:45
or
17:46
not.
17:46
I
17:46
don't
17:46
know
17:46
why
17:46
it
17:46
would
17:47
matter.
17:47
But
17:47
make
17:47
no
17:48
mistake,
17:48
he
17:49
was
17:49
about
17:49
winning
17:49
ball
17:50
games
17:50
and
17:51
acquiring
17:51
players
17:52
that
17:52
would
17:52
win
17:52
ball
17:53
games.
17:53
Exactly.
17:54
Yes.
17:54
And
17:55
what's
17:56
the
17:56
thing
17:56
that,
17:57
you
17:57
know,
17:58
sticks
17:58
out
17:59
the
17:59
most
17:59
about
18:00
Tark?
18:00
Like,
18:01
when
18:01
you
18:01
seem.
18:02
What's
18:03
the
18:03
thing
18:03
you
18:03
think
18:03
of
18:03
first?
18:04
Well,
18:04
chewing
18:05
the
18:05
towel.
18:05
Chewing
18:05
the
18:05
towel.
18:06
Do
18:06
you
18:06
know
18:06
the
18:06
origin
18:07
story
18:07
of
18:07
the
18:07
towel?
18:08
I
18:08
heard.
18:08
I've
18:09
heard
18:09
that
18:09
he
18:11
basically
18:11
hated
18:12
drinking
18:12
water
18:13
on
18:13
the
18:13
bench.
18:14
Yeah.
18:14
It
18:15
didn't
18:15
like,
18:15
cups
18:16
being
18:16
spilled
18:16
and
18:16
water
18:17
being
18:17
at
18:17
his
18:17
feet.
18:18
Yes,
18:18
I
18:18
had
18:19
heard
18:19
that.
18:19
The
18:19
other
18:19
one
18:20
that
18:20
I
18:20
found
18:20
was
18:21
that
18:21
during
18:22
a.
18:22
When
18:23
he
18:23
was
18:23
a
18:23
high
18:23
school
18:24
coach.
18:24
So
18:24
this
18:24
started
18:25
all
18:25
the
18:25
way
18:25
back
18:25
in
18:26
1960,
18:27
when
18:27
he
18:27
was
18:27
a
18:27
high
18:27
school
18:28
coach,
18:28
they
18:29
were
18:29
coaching
18:29
in
18:29
a
18:29
gym
18:30
that
18:30
had
18:30
no
18:30
air
18:31
conditioning.
18:32
He
18:32
was
18:32
a
18:32
little
18:32
under
18:33
the
18:33
weather
18:33
and
18:34
not
18:34
able.
18:34
Like,
18:35
his
18:35
mouth
18:36
was
18:36
drying
18:36
so
18:37
bad
18:37
that
18:38
he
18:38
had
18:38
someone
18:39
soak
18:40
a
18:40
towel
18:41
in
18:41
water
18:42
so
18:42
that
18:42
he
18:42
could
18:42
chew
18:43
on
18:43
that,
18:43
just
18:43
to
18:43
keep
18:44
his
18:44
mouth.
18:45
The
18:45
moisture
18:45
in
18:45
his
18:46
mouth
18:46
up,
18:46
I
18:46
guess,
18:46
you
18:47
know,
18:47
which
18:47
also
18:47
seems
18:48
a
18:48
little
18:48
crazy.
18:48
But
18:49
I,
18:49
you
18:50
know,
18:50
watching
18:50
it
18:50
in
18:51
these
18:51
games,
18:53
whether
18:53
it
18:53
be
18:54
in
18:54
this
18:54
national
18:54
championship
18:55
game
18:55
or
18:55
watching
18:55
some
18:55
of
18:56
the
18:56
games
18:56
that
18:56
led
18:56
up
18:57
to
18:57
this,
18:58
Gosh,
18:58
it
18:59
is
18:59
still
19:00
a
19:00
little
19:00
jarring.
19:01
Right.
19:01
I,
19:01
I,
19:01
you
19:02
know,
19:02
and
19:02
I
19:02
even
19:02
remember
19:03
then,
19:03
like,
19:04
never
19:04
really
19:04
getting
19:05
used
19:05
to
19:05
it.
19:05
Like,
19:06
what
19:06
is
19:06
he
19:06
doing?
19:07
Because
19:07
it's
19:08
not
19:08
like
19:08
he's
19:08
just
19:09
kind
19:09
of
19:10
pulling
19:10
it
19:10
up
19:10
and
19:11
chewing
19:11
for
19:11
a
19:11
second.
19:12
There's
19:12
parts
19:13
where
19:13
it'll
19:13
just
19:13
be
19:13
like
19:14
three
19:14
minutes
19:15
of
19:15
it's
19:16
in
19:16
his
19:16
mouth,
19:16
and
19:16
he's
19:17
just
19:17
kind
19:17
of
19:17
slowly
19:18
numb,
19:19
num,
19:19
num
19:20
at
19:20
it,
19:20
you
19:20
know,
19:21
trying
19:21
to,
19:22
like,
19:22
eat
19:22
it.
19:23
I
19:23
feel
19:23
like
19:23
there
19:23
was
19:24
probably
19:24
a
19:24
generation
19:25
of
19:25
mothers
19:25
who.
19:26
Who.
19:26
Who
19:27
had
19:27
kids
19:28
that
19:28
age
19:29
that
19:29
were,
19:30
like,
19:31
just
19:31
randomly
19:32
chewing
19:32
on
19:32
towels.
19:33
Yeah.
19:33
And
19:33
they
19:33
were
19:33
like,
19:34
what
19:34
the
19:34
hell's
19:34
going
19:34
on
19:34
here?
19:35
Yeah.
19:35
I
19:36
kind
19:36
of
19:36
wonder,
19:36
was
19:36
there
19:36
a
19:37
young
19:38
Alan
19:39
Green
19:39
at
19:39
that
19:39
time
19:40
or
19:40
another
19:40
basketball
19:41
coach
19:41
coming
19:41
up?
19:42
Well,
19:42
that,
19:42
like,
19:43
you
19:43
know,
19:43
say
19:44
they
19:44
were
19:44
like,
19:45
college
19:45
during
19:46
this
19:46
run,
19:47
and
19:47
they're
19:47
just
19:48
like,
19:48
I'm
19:48
gonna
19:48
be.
19:48
Go
19:49
be
19:49
a
19:49
coach,
19:49
and
19:49
I'm
19:50
gonna
19:50
have
19:50
that
19:50
same
19:50
staple
19:51
move.
19:51
Do
19:52
you
19:52
think,
19:52
though,
19:52
that
19:52
they
19:52
were
19:52
doing,
19:53
like,
19:53
Hawaiian
19:54
Punch
19:54
or
19:55
Mountain
19:55
Dew
19:56
or
19:56
something
19:57
like
19:57
that?
19:57
Maybe
19:58
something
19:58
with
19:58
a
19:58
little
19:58
sugar,
19:59
a
19:59
little
19:59
flavor?
19:59
Yeah,
20:00
yeah.
20:00
Because
20:00
he
20:00
did
20:01
put
20:01
lemon
20:01
on
20:01
it.
20:02
Oh,
20:02
I
20:02
didn't
20:03
know
20:03
that.
20:03
No,
20:03
he.
20:03
And
20:04
I
20:04
don't
20:04
know
20:04
that
20:04
that
20:04
was
20:05
from
20:05
the
20:05
beginning,
20:05
but
20:06
he.
20:06
He
20:07
was
20:07
quoted
20:07
just
20:08
basically
20:08
saying
20:09
he,
20:09
you
20:09
know,
20:09
there
20:10
was
20:10
a.
20:10
Something
20:11
I
20:11
Found
20:11
that
20:11
talked
20:11
about
20:12
his
20:12
superstition
20:12
and
20:13
that
20:13
he
20:13
said
20:13
the
20:14
game
20:14
where
20:14
he
20:14
started
20:15
chewing
20:15
the
20:15
towel,
20:16
they
20:16
won.
20:17
Oh.
20:17
And
20:17
he
20:17
said
20:18
from
20:18
that
20:18
point,
20:19
he
20:19
said,
20:19
had
20:20
we
20:20
not
20:20
won
20:20
that
20:21
game,
20:21
I
20:21
may
20:21
have
20:21
started
20:22
chewing
20:22
chairs,
20:23
which
20:23
I
20:23
don't
20:24
know.
20:25
I
20:25
don't
20:25
know
20:25
what
20:25
that
20:25
even
20:26
has
20:26
to
20:26
do
20:26
with
20:26
anything,
20:27
but
20:27
it
20:28
was.
20:28
Just
20:28
like
20:28
he
20:28
was
20:28
folded.
20:29
Yeah,
20:29
exactly.
20:30
With
20:30
a
20:30
little
20:31
padded
20:31
back
20:31
and
20:32
just
20:32
gnawing
20:32
on
20:33
that.
20:33
But
20:33
it's
20:33
also
20:33
perfect
20:34
because
20:34
it
20:34
plays
20:34
so
20:34
well
20:35
into
20:35
the
20:35
tark.
20:35
The
20:36
shark
20:36
thing.
20:36
Yeah.
20:36
You
20:37
know,
20:37
and
20:37
I
20:37
mean,
20:38
just
20:38
everything.
20:39
This
20:39
whole
20:40
thing,
20:40
as
20:40
I
20:40
read
20:40
it,
20:40
was
20:40
just
20:41
like,
20:41
God,
20:41
this
20:41
just
20:42
feels
20:42
like
20:42
one
20:42
of
20:42
those.
20:43
The
20:43
way
20:44
it
20:44
all
20:44
comes
20:44
together,
20:45
you
20:45
know,
20:45
and
20:46
that's
20:46
often
20:46
the
20:46
case
20:47
with
20:47
some
20:47
of
20:47
these
20:47
championships
20:48
that
20:48
are
20:48
so
20:48
special
20:49
like
20:49
that.
20:49
So.
20:51
All
20:52
right,
20:52
so
20:52
moving
20:52
on
20:53
real
20:53
quick.
20:53
Before
20:53
we
20:53
jump
20:54
into
20:54
the
20:54
game,
20:54
I
20:54
did
20:54
want
20:54
to
20:55
talk
20:55
about
20:55
a
20:55
couple
20:55
of
20:55
the
20:56
stars
20:56
from
20:56
UNLV,
20:57
if
20:58
that's
20:58
good
20:58
with
20:58
you.
20:58
100.
20:59
Hit
21:00
it.
21:00
And
21:00
let's
21:01
start
21:01
with
21:01
the
21:02
captain,
21:02
Greg
21:02
Anthony.
21:04
So
21:05
he
21:05
was
21:05
one
21:06
of
21:06
the
21:06
few
21:06
here
21:07
that
21:09
he
21:09
actually
21:10
did.
21:10
Never
21:10
mind.
21:10
I
21:10
was
21:11
gonna
21:11
say
21:11
he
21:11
came
21:11
straight
21:11
out
21:12
of
21:12
high
21:12
school.
21:12
He
21:12
did
21:12
not.
21:12
He
21:13
actually
21:13
went
21:13
to
21:13
the
21:13
University
21:14
of
21:14
Portland
21:15
for
21:15
just
21:15
a
21:15
short
21:15
stint
21:16
for
21:16
his
21:16
freshman
21:17
year,
21:17
where
21:17
he
21:17
was
21:17
the
21:17
freshman
21:18
of
21:18
the
21:18
year
21:19
before.
21:19
Then
21:19
he
21:21
joined
21:22
Target
21:23
unlv.
21:24
I
21:24
believe
21:24
he
21:24
was
21:25
from
21:25
that
21:25
area.
21:25
He
21:26
was
21:26
from
21:26
Vegas.
21:27
So
21:27
there
21:27
was
21:27
a
21:28
big
21:28
draw
21:28
for.
21:28
Him
21:28
to
21:29
become
21:29
the
21:29
hometown
21:29
kid.
21:30
Yeah.
21:31
So
21:31
he
21:31
came
21:31
home
21:32
and
21:33
really
21:34
kind
21:34
of
21:34
became
21:34
the
21:35
guy
21:35
that
21:35
set
21:35
the
21:36
culture.
21:36
I
21:37
think
21:37
from
21:37
the
21:37
player
21:38
standpoint,
21:38
he
21:38
was
21:38
kind
21:39
of
21:39
the
21:39
enforcer.
21:40
He
21:40
was
21:40
the
21:41
leader,
21:41
which
21:41
sometimes
21:42
probably,
21:43
I
21:43
guess,
21:43
you
21:43
know,
21:44
probably
21:44
more
21:44
so
21:44
back
21:45
then
21:45
was
21:45
the
21:46
point
21:46
guard
21:46
took
21:46
that
21:47
role.
21:47
You
21:47
know,
21:47
they
21:47
were
21:48
almost
21:48
like
21:48
the
21:48
quarterback,
21:49
basically,
21:49
and
21:49
that
21:50
leader
21:50
role
21:50
was
21:50
just
21:50
assigned.
21:51
But
21:51
he
21:52
was
21:52
definitely
21:53
one
21:53
that
21:53
again,
21:54
as
21:54
I
21:54
went
21:54
back
21:54
through
21:55
these
21:55
games
21:55
and
21:55
rewatched,
21:56
some
21:56
of
21:56
them
21:56
was
21:57
just
21:57
like,
21:58
it's.
21:58
No,
21:59
it's.
21:59
It's
21:59
a
21:59
no
22:00
brainer
22:00
when
22:00
you're
22:00
watching
22:01
it.
22:01
Who's
22:01
running
22:01
the
22:02
show
22:02
out
22:02
there
22:02
and
22:02
who
22:03
all
22:03
the
22:03
players
22:03
on
22:04
that
22:04
team
22:04
look
22:04
to
22:05
for
22:05
leadership
22:06
on
22:06
the
22:06
course
22:07
or
22:07
on
22:07
the
22:07
court.
22:08
Excuse
22:08
me.
22:09
The
22:10
one
22:11
cool
22:11
thing
22:11
I
22:11
found
22:11
out
22:12
about
22:12
Greg
22:12
Anthony
22:13
was.
22:13
I
22:13
don't
22:13
know
22:13
if
22:13
you'd
22:14
ever
22:14
heard
22:14
this,
22:14
but
22:14
he
22:14
gave
22:15
the
22:15
same
22:15
story
22:15
speech
22:16
in
22:16
the
22:16
tunnel
22:16
before
22:17
every
22:17
game.
22:18
And
22:18
it
22:19
was
22:19
called
22:19
the
22:19
Air
22:19
Force
22:20
Tunnel
22:20
speech.
22:21
Have
22:21
you
22:21
ever
22:21
heard
22:22
this?
22:22
I've
22:22
not
22:22
heard
22:22
this.
22:22
I'm
22:23
gonna
22:23
give
22:23
it
22:23
to
22:23
you
22:23
real
22:23
quick.
22:24
And
22:24
I.
22:24
I
22:25
honestly
22:25
went
22:25
and
22:26
tried
22:26
to
22:26
find
22:27
him
22:28
because
22:28
I
22:28
was
22:28
like,
22:28
this
22:28
has
22:29
to
22:29
have
22:29
come
22:29
up.
22:29
You
22:29
know,
22:29
he's
22:30
very
22:30
much
22:30
a
22:30
TV
22:31
personality
22:32
now.
22:32
And
22:32
I
22:32
thought
22:33
there's
22:33
got
22:33
to
22:33
be
22:33
something
22:33
out
22:34
there.
22:34
But
22:34
it's
22:35
really
22:35
simple
22:35
and
22:35
it's
22:36
almost
22:36
a
22:36
little
22:36
corny,
22:37
but
22:37
it
22:37
would
22:37
go.
22:38
Ladies
22:38
and
22:38
gentlemen,
22:39
prepare
22:39
for
22:39
landing.
22:40
Fasten
22:41
your
22:41
seat
22:41
belts.
22:42
Thank
22:42
you
22:42
for
22:42
flying
22:43
Air
22:43
Force
22:44
Airlines.
22:45
Call
22:45
me
22:45
the
22:45
captain.
22:46
A
22:46
family
22:47
that
22:47
plays
22:47
together
22:48
stays
22:48
together.
22:49
The
22:49
future
22:50
is
22:50
here
22:50
at
22:50
last.
22:51
And
22:52
then
22:52
they
22:52
would
22:52
do
22:52
like
22:52
UNLV
22:53
and
22:53
run
22:53
out
22:54
there
22:54
and.
22:55
And
22:55
go
22:55
through
22:55
it.
22:56
But
22:56
I
22:56
kind
22:56
of
22:56
thought
22:56
to
22:57
do
22:57
the
22:57
same
22:57
one
22:58
before
22:58
every
22:58
game,
22:59
the
22:59
same
23:00
thing.
23:00
And
23:00
it's
23:00
not
23:00
like
23:01
just
23:01
a
23:01
quick
23:01
chant.
23:02
This
23:02
is
23:02
like
23:02
a
23:03
pretending
23:04
he's
23:04
on
23:04
an
23:04
airline,
23:04
like,
23:05
right,
23:05
Ladies
23:05
and
23:05
gentlemen,
23:06
this
23:06
is
23:06
your
23:06
captain
23:07
or,
23:07
you
23:07
know,
23:08
whatever.
23:08
It's
23:08
just
23:08
like
23:09
it's
23:09
very
23:09
long
23:09
winded.
23:10
Think
23:10
that
23:10
it's
23:11
one
23:11
of
23:12
those
23:12
things
23:12
that
23:12
he
23:12
would
23:12
do.
23:13
And
23:13
they're
23:14
like,
23:14
the
23:14
first
23:15
handful
23:15
of
23:15
times,
23:16
guys
23:16
would
23:16
just
23:16
roll
23:17
their
23:17
eyes
23:17
and,
23:17
oh,
23:17
my
23:17
God,
23:18
yes.
23:18
Like,
23:18
he's
23:18
just
23:19
such
23:19
a
23:19
personality
23:20
that.
23:21
That
23:21
they
23:21
just
23:22
let
23:22
him
23:22
cook.
23:22
They
23:23
just
23:23
let
23:23
him
23:23
do
23:23
his
23:23
thing,
23:24
but
23:24
then
23:24
they
23:24
kind
23:25
of
23:25
go,
23:25
God,
23:26
it
23:26
is
23:26
kind
23:26
of
23:26
fun.
23:27
There's
23:27
definitely
23:27
a
23:27
superstitious
23:28
aspect
23:29
too,
23:29
I
23:29
think,
23:30
probably,
23:30
you
23:30
know,
23:30
again,
23:31
and
23:31
because
23:32
he
23:32
didn't.
23:33
I
23:33
mean,
23:33
all
23:33
these
23:34
guys
23:34
really
23:34
didn't
23:35
experience
23:36
a
23:36
season
23:36
of
23:37
no
23:37
success
23:38
while
23:39
they
23:39
were
23:39
there.
23:39
You
23:40
know,
23:40
it
23:40
was
23:40
from
23:40
the
23:40
point
23:41
any
23:41
one
23:41
of
23:41
them
23:42
got
23:42
there
23:42
on
23:43
this
23:43
team,
23:43
they
23:44
experienced
23:44
a
23:44
high
23:44
level
23:45
of
23:45
success
23:46
of
23:46
the
23:46
core
23:46
players.
23:48
So
23:49
I
23:49
don't
23:49
know.
23:49
I
23:49
loved
23:49
Greg
23:50
Anthony.
23:50
Next
23:51
guy.
23:51
Stacey
23:51
Ogman,
23:52
the
23:52
plastic
23:53
man.
23:53
Did
23:54
you
23:54
want
23:54
to
23:54
be
23:54
Stacey
23:55
Ogmund
23:55
in
23:55
1990?
23:57
Yes.
23:58
Really?
23:58
Would
23:59
he
23:59
have
23:59
been
23:59
the
23:59
one
23:59
for
23:59
you?
24:00
I
24:00
just
24:00
was.
24:00
No,
24:00
no.
24:01
Larry
24:01
Johnson
24:01
was
24:01
always
24:02
the
24:02
one,
24:03
you
24:03
know,
24:03
1.1.
24:04
But
24:05
I
24:05
loved
24:06
just
24:06
how
24:07
long
24:07
Ogman
24:08
was
24:09
and
24:09
how
24:09
he
24:09
played
24:10
the
24:10
game,
24:10
and
24:10
it
24:10
was
24:10
so
24:10
silky.
24:11
I,
24:12
like
24:12
you
24:12
also
24:13
was
24:13
a
24:13
bigger
24:14
dude
24:14
at
24:14
that
24:14
age
24:14
and
24:15
just
24:15
didn't
24:15
move
24:15
as
24:15
fast.
24:17
So
24:17
Johnson
24:17
kind
24:18
of
24:18
fit
24:19
my
24:19
mold
24:19
a
24:19
little
24:20
bit
24:20
better
24:20
than.
24:21
Than
24:21
Augment.
24:22
But
24:22
I
24:22
loved
24:23
watching
24:23
Stacy
24:24
Ogden
24:24
play,
24:24
especially
24:25
on
24:25
the.
24:25
Like
24:25
on
24:25
the
24:26
break.
24:26
Yeah,
24:26
it
24:27
happens
24:27
a
24:27
little
24:27
bit
24:27
in
24:27
this
24:27
game
24:28
from
24:28
time
24:28
to
24:28
time,
24:29
but
24:29
God,
24:30
yeah.
24:30
Like,
24:30
he
24:30
just
24:31
was
24:31
so
24:31
long
24:31
and
24:32
so
24:32
silky
24:33
and
24:33
so
24:33
smooth.
24:34
Just
24:35
a
24:35
great
24:35
basketball
24:36
player.
24:37
Yeah.
24:37
And
24:37
he
24:37
was
24:38
one
24:38
of
24:38
the.
24:38
He
24:38
was,
24:39
I
24:39
believe,
24:39
the
24:39
only
24:40
one
24:40
here,
24:41
I
24:41
think.
24:41
And
24:41
I
24:42
may
24:42
be
24:42
off
24:42
the.
24:43
Out
24:43
of
24:43
the
24:43
key
24:43
player.
24:43
No,
24:44
I'm
24:44
sorry.
24:44
Anderson
24:44
Hunt
24:45
also
24:45
didn't
24:45
go
24:45
to
24:46
a
24:46
juco,
24:46
but
24:47
they
24:48
came
24:48
straight
24:48
out
24:48
of
24:49
high
24:49
school.
24:50
But
24:50
really,
24:51
his
24:51
high
24:51
school
24:52
was
24:52
where
24:52
Tarx.
24:53
It
24:54
was
24:54
kind
24:54
of
24:54
like
24:54
he
24:54
aligned
24:55
perfectly
24:55
with
24:55
Tark's
24:56
recruiting
24:56
area
24:57
from
24:57
his
24:57
previous
24:58
jobs
24:58
before
24:59
unlv.
24:59
So
25:00
he
25:00
was
25:00
kind
25:00
of
25:01
almost
25:01
a
25:01
backyard
25:02
guy
25:03
for
25:03
Tark
25:03
to
25:03
go
25:04
after
25:04
in
25:04
that
25:04
sense.
25:05
And
25:06
what.
25:06
From
25:07
everything
25:07
I
25:07
gathered,
25:08
it
25:08
wasn't
25:09
necessarily
25:10
a
25:10
hard.
25:11
Hard
25:11
sell
25:12
to
25:12
get
25:12
him
25:12
there.
25:12
You
25:13
know,
25:13
like,
25:13
he
25:13
was
25:14
very
25:14
open
25:14
to
25:14
the
25:15
idea
25:15
of
25:15
coming
25:15
to
25:15
unlv.
25:16
Very
25:17
raw
25:17
when
25:18
he
25:18
first
25:18
got
25:18
there,
25:19
but
25:19
really,
25:19
again,
25:20
just
25:20
the
25:21
length
25:21
and
25:21
the
25:22
style
25:22
of
25:22
play.
25:22
I
25:23
was
25:23
about
25:23
to
25:23
say
25:23
there
25:23
is
25:23
no
25:24
better
25:24
match
25:24
for
25:25
Tark
25:26
style
25:26
of
25:26
ball.
25:27
Yes.
25:27
Than
25:27
Stacy
25:28
Ogman.
25:28
Exactly.
25:29
Yeah.
25:29
Just
25:29
the
25:29
absolute.
25:30
Could
25:30
kind
25:31
of
25:31
shut
25:31
down
25:32
from
25:32
a
25:32
defense
25:33
perspective.
25:34
Next
25:35
guy
25:35
I
25:35
want
25:35
to
25:35
talk
25:35
to,
25:36
to
25:36
me
25:36
is
25:36
kind
25:36
of
25:36
like
25:37
one
25:37
of
25:37
the
25:37
unheralded
25:38
guys,
25:38
and
25:38
that
25:39
would
25:39
be
25:39
Anderson
25:39
Hunt,
25:40
leading
25:41
scorer
25:41
in
25:41
this
25:41
game.
25:42
And
25:43
yeah,
25:43
just
25:43
a
25:44
amazing
25:45
shooter.
25:46
And
25:47
anything
25:47
from
25:48
inside
25:49
15
25:49
to
25:49
18ft
25:50
was
25:50
done.
25:51
Yes,
25:51
exactly.
25:52
And
25:52
really,
25:53
he
25:53
is
25:54
to
25:54
me,
25:54
kind
25:55
of
25:55
one
25:55
of
25:55
the
25:55
unsung
25:56
heroes
25:56
out
25:56
of
25:56
this
25:56
whole,
25:57
whole
25:57
team
25:57
because
25:58
I
25:58
don't
25:59
feel
25:59
like
25:59
it's
25:59
super
26:00
memorable.
26:00
To
26:01
me,
26:01
it
26:01
is.
26:01
The
26:01
other
26:02
three,
26:02
only
26:02
the
26:03
lost
26:03
of
26:03
the.
26:03
The
26:04
lost.
26:04
One
26:04
of
26:05
the.
26:05
Of
26:05
the
26:05
big
26:06
crew.
26:06
But
26:07
like,
26:07
I
26:07
mean,
26:07
he
26:09
is
26:09
the
26:10
MVP
26:10
of
26:10
this
26:10
final
26:11
Four.
26:11
Yeah,
26:11
no
26:12
doubt.
26:12
And
26:12
when
26:12
you
26:12
watch
26:13
the
26:13
game,
26:13
it's
26:14
like,
26:14
it's
26:15
almost
26:15
hard
26:15
to
26:15
deny
26:16
or
26:16
not
26:16
hard
26:17
to
26:17
deny.
26:17
It's
26:17
hard
26:17
to
26:18
wrap
26:18
your
26:18
head
26:19
around
26:19
the
26:19
fact
26:19
that
26:19
he
26:20
wasn't
26:20
a
26:20
more
26:22
effective
26:23
pro,
26:23
basically
26:24
with.
26:24
With
26:25
the
26:25
way
26:25
he
26:25
could
26:25
shoot,
26:26
you
26:27
know,
26:27
his
26:27
body
26:28
type,
26:28
his
26:29
agility.
26:29
Yep.
26:30
His
26:30
ability
26:31
to
26:31
get
26:31
open.
26:31
Yeah.
26:33
So
26:33
originally
26:33
from
26:34
Detroit,
26:35
grew
26:35
up,
26:36
wanted
26:36
to
26:36
be
26:36
in
26:36
the
26:36
Big
26:37
Ten.
26:37
So
26:38
coming
26:38
out
26:38
of
26:38
high
26:38
school,
26:39
that
26:39
was
26:39
his
26:39
dream,
26:40
was
26:40
to
26:40
play
26:40
in
26:40
the
26:40
Big
26:40
Ten.
26:41
Obviously
26:41
he
26:41
would
26:42
love
26:42
to
26:42
have
26:42
played
26:42
for
26:43
either
26:43
of
26:43
the
26:43
Michigan
26:44
schools.
26:44
From
26:44
what
26:45
I
26:45
understood,
26:46
completely
26:46
ignored
26:47
by
26:47
all
26:47
of
26:47
them.
26:49
I.
26:50
I
26:50
don't
26:50
know.
26:50
I'm
26:50
assuming
26:51
it's
26:51
like
26:51
you
26:51
get
26:51
the
26:52
generic
26:52
letter
26:52
maybe,
26:53
but
26:53
you
26:53
don't
26:53
get
26:53
anything
26:54
beyond
26:54
that.
26:54
I
26:54
don't
26:55
know
26:55
what
26:55
level
26:56
for
26:56
completely
26:57
ignored
26:57
or
26:58
whatever,
26:58
but
26:59
he
26:59
was
26:59
being
27:00
heavily
27:00
recruited
27:00
the
27:01
whole
27:01
time
27:01
by
27:01
unlv.
27:03
And
27:03
again,
27:04
he.
27:05
He,
27:05
you
27:05
know,
27:06
obviously
27:06
a
27:06
shooter.
27:07
And
27:07
they
27:07
basically
27:09
UNLV
27:09
told
27:10
him.
27:10
And
27:10
I
27:10
found
27:10
a
27:10
quote
27:11
from
27:11
Tim
27:12
Gergorich,
27:12
who
27:12
I
27:13
believe
27:13
was
27:13
an
27:13
assistant
27:14
coach,
27:14
who
27:15
said
27:15
we.
27:16
We
27:16
eventually
27:17
won
27:17
him
27:17
over
27:18
by
27:18
saying
27:18
at
27:18
unlv,
27:19
we
27:20
don't
27:20
care
27:20
if
27:20
you
27:20
shoot
27:21
from
27:21
half
27:21
court
27:21
as
27:22
long
27:22
as
27:22
you're
27:22
wearing
27:23
our
27:23
jersey.
27:24
Because
27:24
basically,
27:25
I
27:25
guess
27:25
the
27:25
other
27:25
schools
27:26
that
27:26
had
27:26
talked
27:26
to
27:26
him
27:26
had
27:27
talked
27:27
to
27:27
him
27:27
about.
27:28
We
27:28
don't
27:29
want
27:29
the
27:29
volume.
27:29
Yeah.
27:30
That
27:30
you
27:30
shoot
27:30
with
27:31
in
27:31
high
27:31
score
27:31
or
27:31
whatever.
27:32
And
27:32
he
27:32
was
27:32
a
27:33
volume
27:33
guy
27:33
for
27:33
sure.
27:34
We
27:34
don't
27:34
want
27:34
those
27:34
threes.
27:35
Yeah.
27:35
What
27:36
a
27:36
negative
27:36
play.
27:37
Yes,
27:37
no
27:38
doubt.
27:38
And
27:38
he.
27:39
He
27:39
was
27:39
the
27:40
most
27:40
outstanding
27:41
player
27:41
of.
27:42
Of
27:42
the
27:43
1995.
27:44
28
27:44
points
27:45
in
27:45
the
27:45
fall.
27:45
Yep.
27:46
Is
27:46
that
27:46
what
27:46
he
27:47
had?
27:48
I've
27:48
got
27:48
it
27:49
here.
27:49
And
27:49
the
27:49
plethora
27:50
of
27:50
29
27:51
points.
27:52
12
27:52
of
27:52
18
27:52
from
27:53
the
27:53
floor,
27:53
29
27:53
points.
27:55
Just
27:55
a
27:56
player.
27:56
But
27:57
we
27:57
saved
27:57
the
27:58
best
27:58
for
27:58
last,
27:59
right,
27:59
lj?
28:00
Larry
28:01
Johnson,
28:01
just
28:01
absolute
28:02
special
28:02
athlete
28:03
from
28:03
right
28:03
here
28:04
in
28:04
Texas.
28:04
Went
28:04
to
28:04
Dallas
28:05
Skyline,
28:06
originally
28:07
committed
28:07
to
28:07
go
28:07
to
28:08
smu.
28:08
He
28:08
was
28:08
going
28:09
to
28:09
stay
28:09
right
28:09
in
28:09
Dallas.
28:11
But
28:11
academic
28:11
eligibility
28:12
got
28:12
in
28:13
the
28:13
way,
28:13
wasn't
28:13
it?
28:13
Yeah,
28:14
got
28:14
in
28:14
the
28:14
ways.
28:14
SAT
28:15
squad
28:15
scores.
28:15
He
28:15
couldn't
28:16
what
28:16
he
28:16
get
28:16
what
28:17
he
28:17
needed
28:17
to
28:17
get
28:17
into
28:18
smu.
28:18
So
28:19
he
28:19
went
28:19
out
28:19
to
28:19
Odessa
28:20
College,
28:20
which
28:20
is
28:21
a
28:21
junior
28:21
college
28:22
in
28:23
Texas.
28:24
There
28:24
he
28:25
was
28:25
just
28:25
kind
28:25
of
28:25
this
28:26
mythical
28:27
freak
28:27
athlete,
28:28
which
28:29
I'm
28:29
sure
28:29
you
28:29
can
28:30
imagine.
28:30
Right.
28:31
And
28:31
again,
28:31
imagine
28:32
playing
28:33
juco.
28:33
Yeah.
28:34
And
28:34
having
28:34
to
28:35
guard
28:35
Larry
28:36
Johnson.
28:36
And
28:36
some
28:36
of
28:37
these
28:37
jucos
28:37
are,
28:37
you
28:38
know,
28:38
obviously
28:38
seen
28:39
as
28:39
almost
28:39
launching
28:40
pads
28:40
and
28:40
often
28:41
times
28:41
as,
28:42
hey,
28:42
it's
28:42
a
28:42
stop
28:43
where
28:43
this
28:44
kid
28:44
can
28:44
get
28:44
it
28:44
figured
28:45
out
28:45
academically.
28:46
Or
28:46
maybe
28:46
there's
28:46
other
28:47
reasons
28:47
why
28:48
it's
28:48
almost
28:48
a
28:49
stopping
28:49
point.
28:49
And
28:49
I
28:49
think
28:50
that
28:50
was
28:50
probably
28:50
always
28:51
the
28:51
case.
28:51
But
28:52
you're
28:52
right.
28:52
I
28:53
feel
28:53
like
28:53
we
28:53
haven't
28:53
heard
28:53
about
28:54
that
28:54
in
28:54
a
28:54
long
28:54
time.
28:54
But
28:55
that
28:55
at
28:55
that
28:55
time
28:57
was
28:57
like,
28:58
oh,
28:58
he's
28:58
got
28:58
to
28:58
go
28:59
to
28:59
juco
28:59
because
28:59
he
28:59
can't
29:00
get
29:00
this
29:01
on
29:01
his
29:01
SAT
29:01
or
29:02
his
29:02
GPA
29:03
or
29:03
whatever.
29:03
You're
29:03
right.
29:03
That's
29:04
kind
29:04
of
29:04
not
29:04
the
29:04
case
29:05
in
29:05
basketball
29:05
anymore.
29:06
I
29:06
don't
29:06
feel
29:06
like
29:06
we
29:06
hear
29:06
about
29:07
that.
29:07
Not
29:07
at
29:07
all.
29:08
Well,
29:08
baseball
29:08
is
29:09
still
29:09
player
29:09
or
29:09
no,
29:10
I
29:10
feel
29:10
like
29:10
there's
29:11
that
29:11
weird
29:11
group
29:12
of
29:12
baseball
29:13
jucos
29:14
that
29:14
are
29:15
just
29:15
seen.
29:15
As
29:16
come
29:16
here
29:17
because
29:17
of
29:17
the
29:18
ability
29:18
to
29:18
be
29:18
drafted
29:19
after
29:19
year
29:20
one.
29:20
Okay.
29:21
Don't
29:22
get
29:22
me
29:22
wrong.
29:22
And
29:22
they.
29:23
If
29:24
you
29:24
can
29:24
go
29:24
to
29:24
ut,
29:24
you
29:25
go
29:25
to
29:25
UT
29:25
or
29:25
A
29:26
and
29:26
M
29:26
or
29:26
whatever.
29:26
But
29:27
it
29:27
also,
29:28
like,
29:29
if
29:29
you've
29:30
got
29:30
skills,
29:31
you
29:31
can
29:32
be
29:32
drafted
29:32
after
29:32
year
29:32
one,
29:33
year
29:33
two,
29:34
or
29:34
transfer
29:34
after
29:35
year
29:35
one
29:35
and
29:35
go
29:35
play
29:36
at
29:36
A
29:36
ut.
29:36
Yeah.
29:37
Your
29:37
flexibility,
29:38
I
29:38
feel
29:38
like,
29:38
is
29:39
much
29:39
better
29:40
if
29:40
you're
29:40
not
29:40
getting
29:41
the
29:41
D1
29:42
looks
29:42
when
29:42
it
29:43
comes
29:43
to
29:43
baseball.
29:43
So
29:44
if
29:44
that's
29:44
decreased,
29:45
is
29:45
it
29:45
because.
29:46
Also
29:46
because
29:47
we
29:48
have
29:48
figured
29:48
it
29:49
out
29:49
in
29:49
terms
29:50
of
29:50
these
29:51
student
29:51
athletes
29:51
are
29:52
leaving
29:52
high
29:52
school
29:52
prepared
29:53
and
29:54
now
29:54
they
29:54
can
29:54
get
29:55
the
29:55
score
29:55
they
29:55
need
29:55
to
29:56
get
29:56
into
29:56
a
29:56
big
29:57
college
29:58
or
29:59
is
29:59
it
29:59
just
29:59
because
30:00
it's
30:00
anything
30:01
about
30:01
grades
30:01
anymore?
30:02
No,
30:02
I
30:02
don't
30:03
ever
30:03
hear
30:04
that.
30:04
Like,
30:05
I
30:05
don't.
30:05
Dude,
30:05
I
30:05
don't
30:06
like,
30:06
I
30:07
guess.
30:07
And
30:07
I
30:07
don't
30:07
want
30:07
to
30:08
project
30:08
on
30:08
some
30:08
kid
30:09
right
30:09
now.
30:09
I'm
30:09
trying
30:10
to
30:10
think
30:10
of
30:10
an
30:10
example
30:11
of,
30:11
you
30:11
know,
30:11
whatever.
30:12
And
30:12
that's
30:12
going
30:12
to
30:12
sound
30:12
even
30:13
worse.
30:13
I
30:13
don't
30:13
even
30:14
feel
30:14
like
30:14
we
30:14
hear
30:14
about,
30:16
like,
30:17
I
30:17
don't.
30:17
I
30:18
can't
30:18
even
30:18
tell
30:19
you
30:19
the
30:19
last.
30:19
Time
30:19
I
30:20
heard
30:20
about
30:20
greats
30:21
and
30:21
does
30:21
it
30:22
matter?
30:22
That's
30:23
what
30:23
I'm
30:23
kind
30:24
of
30:24
like.
30:24
It
30:24
does.
30:24
It
30:24
almost
30:25
feels
30:25
like
30:25
where
30:26
we're
30:26
at
30:26
right
30:26
now
30:26
with
30:26
the
30:27
nil
30:27
and
30:27
everything
30:28
else,
30:28
it's
30:28
like,
30:29
okay,
30:29
well,
30:29
this
30:30
is
30:30
just
30:30
becoming
30:31
like
30:31
the
30:31
minor
30:31
leagues
30:32
for
30:32
the
30:32
next
30:32
stop
30:33
or
30:33
whatever,
30:33
you
30:33
know?
30:34
Right.
30:35
So
30:35
I
30:36
don't
30:36
know.
30:36
But
30:36
nonetheless,
30:37
back
30:37
to
30:37
lj
30:39
basically,
30:40
where
30:40
they
30:40
were
30:40
able
30:41
to
30:41
lure
30:41
him
30:41
to
30:41
unlv
30:42
just
30:42
with
30:42
the
30:42
promise
30:43
of
30:43
you're
30:43
going
30:43
to
30:43
be
30:44
the
30:44
man,
30:44
you
30:44
know,
30:44
you're
30:45
not
30:45
just
30:45
going
30:45
to
30:45
be
30:45
another
30:46
one
30:46
of
30:46
the
30:47
guys.
30:47
You
30:47
are
30:47
going
30:48
to
30:48
be
30:48
the
30:48
guy
30:49
cornerstone.
30:50
Just
30:50
the
30:50
absolute
30:51
physical
30:51
player.
30:52
He
30:52
could
30:52
shoot
30:53
it
30:53
as
30:53
well,
30:53
as
30:53
you
30:54
said
30:54
earlier,
30:54
knocks
30:54
down
30:55
a
30:55
couple
30:55
of
30:56
key
30:57
three
30:57
pointers
30:57
in
30:58
this
30:58
game
30:59
and
30:59
really
30:59
just
31:00
all
31:00
around
31:01
stud.
31:01
But
31:01
I
31:02
think
31:02
the
31:02
thing
31:02
to
31:03
me,
31:03
when
31:03
I
31:03
think
31:03
about
31:04
1990
31:05
and
31:05
how
31:06
I
31:06
viewed
31:06
him
31:07
was
31:07
he
31:08
was
31:08
a
31:08
linebacker
31:09
playing
31:09
basketball.
31:10
Like,
31:10
in
31:10
my
31:10
mind,
31:11
he.
31:11
And
31:11
he's.
31:12
And
31:12
he
31:12
does.
31:12
And
31:12
we've
31:13
got
31:13
the
31:13
game
31:13
going
31:13
on
31:14
right
31:14
now
31:14
as
31:14
we're
31:14
doing
31:14
this.
31:15
He
31:15
is
31:16
a
31:16
dude.
31:16
He's
31:16
a
31:16
specimen,
31:17
you
31:17
know,
31:18
and.
31:18
But
31:18
I
31:18
remember
31:19
just
31:19
the
31:20
thought
31:20
of
31:20
it
31:21
as
31:21
he
31:21
is
31:22
just
31:22
an
31:23
absolute
31:23
men
31:23
among
31:24
boys.
31:24
Like,
31:24
it
31:24
did
31:24
not
31:25
look
31:25
like
31:25
they
31:25
should
31:26
all
31:26
be
31:26
playing
31:26
in
31:26
the
31:27
same
31:27
game
31:27
and
31:27
in
31:27
the
31:28
same
31:28
league
31:28
even.
31:29
You
31:30
know,
31:30
there
31:31
was
31:31
a
31:32
Sports
31:32
Illustrated
31:33
article
31:34
about
31:34
Larry
31:35
Johnson
31:36
when
31:36
all
31:37
this
31:37
was
31:37
going
31:37
on.
31:37
And
31:38
I
31:38
remember
31:38
this
31:39
very
31:39
distinctly
31:39
because
31:40
they
31:40
talked
31:40
about
31:40
what
31:41
he
31:41
would
31:41
do
31:43
during
31:44
the
31:44
summer
31:44
at
31:44
Scott.
31:45
Like
31:45
when
31:45
he
31:45
was
31:45
going
31:45
to
31:46
Skyline
31:46
when
31:46
he
31:46
was
31:46
in
31:46
high
31:47
school.
31:47
Yeah.
31:48
And
31:48
he
31:48
and
31:48
his
31:48
boys
31:49
would
31:49
roll
31:49
up
31:50
to
31:50
the
31:50
hardtop
31:52
and
31:52
they
31:52
would
31:53
basically
31:54
like
31:55
park
31:55
their
31:55
cars
31:55
next
31:56
to
31:56
it.
31:56
And
31:56
at
31:57
night
31:57
they
31:57
would
31:57
turn
31:57
the
31:58
lights
31:58
on,
31:58
they
31:59
would
31:59
play
31:59
music
32:00
from
32:00
the
32:00
deal
32:00
and
32:01
they
32:01
would
32:01
just
32:01
hoop
32:02
all
32:02
day.
32:02
But
32:03
what
32:03
they
32:03
would
32:03
do
32:04
is
32:04
they
32:05
would
32:05
hoop
32:05
all
32:05
day
32:06
and
32:06
then
32:06
they
32:07
would
32:07
go
32:07
and
32:07
get.
32:08
I
32:08
thought
32:08
this
32:09
was
32:09
the
32:09
greatest
32:09
thing
32:09
ever.
32:09
They'd
32:10
go
32:10
and
32:10
each
32:11
one
32:11
of
32:11
them
32:11
would
32:11
get
32:11
a
32:12
large
32:12
pizza
32:13
just
32:13
to
32:13
themselves.
32:14
Nice.
32:14
And
32:15
then
32:15
they
32:15
would
32:15
eat
32:15
the
32:16
pizza
32:16
and
32:17
then
32:17
they
32:17
would
32:17
get
32:17
pints
32:18
of
32:18
ice
32:18
cream.
32:19
And
32:19
they
32:19
would
32:19
eat
32:20
the
32:20
pizza,
32:20
eat
32:21
the
32:21
ice
32:21
cream,
32:22
let
32:22
it
32:22
settle
32:23
for
32:23
like
32:23
15,
32:23
20
32:24
minutes.
32:24
And
32:24
then
32:24
they'd
32:25
go
32:25
back
32:25
and
32:25
hoop,
32:26
like
32:27
after
32:27
that.
32:27
But
32:28
they
32:28
would
32:28
basically
32:28
take
32:29
2,500
32:30
calories.
32:31
Like,
32:31
they
32:31
would
32:32
hoop
32:32
all
32:32
day,
32:33
burn,
32:33
burn
32:33
energy,
32:34
go
32:35
eat
32:35
this
32:35
just,
32:35
you
32:36
know,
32:36
extravagant
32:37
meal
32:37
and
32:37
then
32:37
go
32:38
hoop
32:38
again.
32:38
Yeah.
32:39
And
32:39
it
32:39
was
32:39
just
32:39
like,
32:40
it
32:40
sounded
32:41
like
32:41
the
32:41
greatest
32:41
life
32:42
when
32:42
you
32:42
were
32:42
12
32:42
years
32:43
old.
32:43
It
32:43
does.
32:43
That
32:44
sounds
32:44
amazing
32:44
for
32:45
that
32:45
age.
32:45
Like
32:45
right
32:46
now.
32:46
I
32:46
just
32:46
think
32:46
it's
32:46
amazing
32:47
immediately.
32:47
Like,
32:48
it
32:48
sounds
32:49
like
32:49
some
32:49
weird
32:49
fitness
32:50
challenge
32:50
that
32:50
you
32:50
would
32:51
want
32:51
me
32:51
to
32:51
do.
32:51
Like
32:51
to
32:52
be
32:52
able
32:52
to
32:52
still
32:52
do
32:52
anything
32:53
after
32:53
eating
32:53
a
32:54
full
32:54
large
32:54
pizza.
32:54
I
32:55
just
32:55
thought
32:55
though,
32:55
and
32:55
a
32:55
bunch
32:56
of
32:56
ice
32:56
cream.
32:56
Like,
32:56
you're
32:56
just
32:57
playing
32:57
basketball
32:57
all
32:57
day.
32:58
Yeah.
32:58
And
32:58
you're
32:58
in.
32:59
It's
32:59
Larry
32:59
Johnson.
32:59
So
33:00
you're
33:00
playing
33:00
it
33:00
and
33:00
you
33:00
know,
33:01
you're
33:01
just
33:01
dominating
33:02
everybody.
33:02
And
33:03
then
33:03
you're
33:03
like,
33:03
hey,
33:03
it's
33:03
pizza
33:04
time.
33:04
Yeah.
33:04
And
33:05
then
33:05
you're
33:05
like,
33:05
hey,
33:05
it's
33:06
cookies
33:06
and
33:07
cream
33:07
time.
33:07
And
33:08
then
33:08
it's
33:08
like,
33:08
hey,
33:09
I'm
33:09
gonna
33:09
go
33:09
play
33:09
for
33:09
two
33:09
more
33:10
hours
33:10
and
33:10
show
33:10
everybody
33:11
that
33:11
I'm
33:11
Larry
33:12
Johnson.
33:12
My
33:12
weird
33:13
thing
33:13
at
33:13
that
33:14
time,
33:15
and
33:15
really
33:15
probably
33:16
anywhere
33:16
from
33:16
like,
33:16
I
33:17
don't
33:17
know,
33:17
age
33:19
10,
33:19
11,
33:19
up
33:20
through
33:20
high
33:20
school,
33:21
we
33:21
would
33:21
play
33:21
pickup
33:22
basketball.
33:23
One
33:23
friend's
33:23
house
33:24
often,
33:25
if
33:25
we
33:25
weren't
33:25
going
33:26
to
33:26
just
33:26
a
33:26
park
33:27
or
33:27
something
33:27
like
33:27
that.
33:27
But
33:28
often
33:28
it.
33:28
If
33:29
it
33:29
was
33:29
just
33:29
us,
33:29
we
33:29
were
33:30
playing
33:30
there.
33:30
And
33:30
it
33:31
wasn't
33:31
a
33:31
really
33:31
big
33:31
court,
33:32
but
33:32
it's
33:32
perfect
33:32
for
33:32
like
33:33
three
33:33
on
33:33
three.
33:33
Keep
33:34
everything
33:34
contained.
33:35
And
33:35
I
33:35
would
33:35
slam
33:37
warm,
33:38
not
33:38
even
33:38
room
33:38
temperature,
33:39
but
33:39
warm
33:40
sodas
33:41
the
33:41
entire
33:42
time.
33:43
So
33:43
his
33:43
mom
33:44
was
33:44
one
33:45
of
33:45
those,
33:45
like
33:45
one
33:45
of
33:46
the
33:46
first
33:46
cool
33:46
moms
33:47
that
33:47
shopped
33:48
at
33:48
Sam's
33:48
club.
33:49
And
33:49
the
33:49
Sam's
33:50
club
33:50
was
33:50
in
33:50
Houston,
33:51
so
33:51
it
33:51
was
33:51
like
33:51
a
33:51
90
33:51
minute
33:52
drive.
33:52
But
33:52
so
33:53
when
33:53
they
33:53
would
33:53
go,
33:54
you're
33:54
not
33:54
just
33:54
going
33:55
and
33:55
buying
33:55
one
33:55
case
33:56
of
33:56
coke
33:56
or
33:57
one,
33:57
you're
33:57
buying
33:58
like
33:58
a
33:58
pallet.
33:58
Was
33:58
it
33:59
or
33:59
whatever.
33:59
Sam's
33:59
choice,
34:00
whatever
34:00
it
34:00
was
34:00
at
34:00
the
34:00
time.
34:01
No,
34:01
I
34:01
mean,
34:01
they
34:02
would
34:02
buy
34:02
coke.
34:02
I
34:03
feel
34:03
like
34:03
it
34:03
would
34:03
be
34:03
Coke,
34:04
Dr.
34:04
Pepper
34:04
or
34:04
whatever.
34:05
But
34:05
then
34:05
they
34:06
were
34:06
also
34:06
like,
34:07
they
34:07
would
34:07
only
34:07
keep
34:08
a
34:08
couple
34:08
in
34:08
the
34:09
fridge.
34:09
I
34:09
don't
34:09
know
34:10
if
34:10
they
34:10
were
34:10
worried
34:10
about
34:10
expending
34:11
too
34:11
much
34:11
energy
34:12
like
34:12
cooling
34:13
all
34:13
those
34:13
or
34:13
what,
34:14
but
34:14
the
34:14
rest
34:15
would
34:15
be
34:15
in
34:15
a
34:16
pantry
34:16
in
34:16
the
34:16
garage
34:17
in
34:18
Brian,
34:18
Texas,
34:19
when
34:19
it's
34:19
like
34:19
basically
34:20
getting
34:20
up
34:20
to
34:21
110
34:21
in
34:22
that
34:22
garage
34:22
probably.
34:23
I
34:23
don't
34:23
know
34:23
how
34:23
they
34:23
didn't
34:24
all
34:24
just
34:24
explode
34:25
all
34:25
the
34:25
time,
34:25
but
34:25
they
34:26
never
34:26
did.
34:27
And
34:27
we
34:27
would
34:27
just
34:27
go
34:28
in
34:28
there
34:28
because
34:28
it
34:28
would
34:28
be
34:29
like,
34:29
yeah,
34:29
he
34:29
had
34:29
a
34:30
faucet
34:30
on
34:30
the
34:31
side
34:31
of
34:31
the
34:31
house
34:31
and
34:31
we
34:32
would
34:32
drink
34:32
out
34:32
of
34:32
the
34:32
hose
34:33
water.
34:34
But
34:34
it
34:34
was
34:34
like,
34:34
no,
34:35
because
34:35
it
34:35
was
34:35
just
34:35
like,
34:36
they
34:36
didn't
34:36
mind.
34:37
You
34:37
just
34:37
go
34:37
in
34:38
there
34:38
and
34:38
I
34:38
would
34:39
literally
34:39
just
34:39
like,
34:40
we
34:40
would
34:40
play
34:41
a
34:41
game.
34:42
We'd
34:42
be,
34:42
you
34:43
know,
34:43
just
34:43
absolutely
34:44
drenched
34:45
with
34:45
sweat
34:45
and
34:46
fatigued.
34:47
And
34:47
I
34:47
would
34:47
go
34:47
in
34:47
there
34:48
and
34:48
just
34:48
get
34:48
this
34:49
caffeine
34:50
calorie
34:50
jolt
34:51
through
34:52
110
34:53
degree
34:54
Coca
34:54
Cola
34:54
or
34:55
whatever,
34:55
sweet
34:55
liquid
34:56
honey.
34:56
And
34:57
so
34:57
I
34:58
say
34:58
all
34:58
this
34:58
to
34:58
say
34:58
Larry
34:59
Johnson
34:59
and
34:59
I
34:59
are
34:59
a
35:00
lot
35:00
more
35:00
alike
35:00
than
35:00
I
35:00
originalized.
35:01
Yes.
35:01
Or
35:02
originally
35:02
realized.
35:03
Like,
35:03
maybe
35:03
I'm
35:03
more
35:04
LJ
35:04
than
35:04
I
35:04
am
35:04
Greg
35:05
Anthony.
35:06
I
35:06
don't
35:06
know.
35:06
Because
35:07
I
35:07
also
35:07
don't
35:07
know.
35:08
One
35:08
of
35:08
the
35:08
great
35:08
stories
35:08
on
35:09
Greg
35:09
Anthony
35:09
was
35:09
when
35:10
he
35:10
did
35:10
break
35:10
his
35:10
jaw
35:11
and
35:11
had
35:11
to
35:11
have
35:11
it
35:11
wired
35:12
shut.
35:12
He
35:12
didn't
35:13
miss
35:13
any
35:13
practice.
35:14
He
35:14
came
35:14
back
35:15
the
35:15
next
35:15
day
35:15
and
35:15
practiced
35:16
with
35:16
a
35:16
hockey
35:17
helmet
35:17
on.
35:17
See
35:17
that
35:18
picture?
35:18
Yes.
35:19
Just
35:20
amazing.
35:20
And
35:21
he
35:21
did.
35:21
And
35:21
I
35:21
saw
35:21
an
35:21
interview
35:22
of
35:22
him
35:22
talking
35:23
about
35:23
it
35:23
and
35:23
basically
35:23
just
35:24
saying.
35:24
That
35:25
didn't
35:25
miss
35:25
a
35:25
game.
35:25
It
35:26
was
35:26
very
35:26
much
35:26
a
35:26
message
35:27
to
35:27
the
35:27
team,
35:28
you
35:28
know,
35:28
like,
35:28
he
35:29
did
35:29
not
35:29
want
35:29
to
35:29
do
35:30
that,
35:30
but
35:30
it
35:30
was
35:30
a
35:30
message
35:31
to
35:31
the
35:31
team
35:31
that
35:31
we're
35:32
going
35:32
to
35:32
be
35:32
here
35:32
for
35:32
each
35:32
other.
35:33
I
35:33
mean,
35:34
it
35:34
just
35:34
went
35:35
to
35:35
the
35:36
fact
35:36
that
35:36
it
35:36
was
35:36
us
35:36
against
35:37
them.
35:37
Yes.
35:38
Because
35:38
they
35:38
were,
35:39
you
35:40
know,
35:40
talking
35:40
about
35:40
how
35:41
they
35:41
didn't
35:41
know
35:41
who
35:41
was
35:42
going
35:42
to
35:42
play
35:42
that
35:42
night
35:43
because
35:43
the
35:43
NCAA
35:44
would
35:44
come
35:44
down
35:44
and
35:45
say,
35:45
yes,
35:46
we
35:47
don't
35:47
know
35:47
who
35:47
paid
35:47
for
35:47
this
35:48
lunch.
35:48
So,
35:48
Stacy
35:48
Ogman,
35:49
you're
35:49
out
35:49
for
35:49
tonight.
35:50
Like,
35:50
it
35:50
was
35:50
just
35:50
the
35:51
most.
35:51
A
35:51
bunch
35:51
of
35:51
ticky
35:52
tacks.
35:52
Just
35:52
the
35:52
most
35:52
insane.
35:53
Yeah.
35:54
Way
35:55
to
35:55
handle
35:55
your
35:55
business.
35:56
No
35:56
doubt.
35:56
No
35:57
doubt.
35:57
But.
35:58
So
35:58
there
35:58
you
35:59
go.
35:59
There's
35:59
a
35:59
little
35:59
bit.
35:59
I
36:00
mean,
36:00
outside.
36:01
And
36:01
again,
36:01
lj,
36:01
the
36:02
other
36:02
thing
36:02
I'd
36:02
add
36:02
is
36:02
the
36:03
next
36:03
season.
36:03
He
36:03
won
36:04
the
36:04
Naismith
36:04
and
36:04
Wooden
36:05
awards
36:05
in
36:06
the
36:06
1991
36:07
season.
36:07
But
36:07
just
36:08
the
36:08
dominance
36:09
even
36:09
in
36:09
this
36:10
game,
36:10
even
36:10
though
36:11
he
36:11
wasn't
36:11
the
36:11
leading
36:12
scorer.
36:12
I
36:13
mean,
36:13
just
36:13
physically,
36:14
like,
36:14
the
36:15
thing
36:15
I
36:15
watched
36:15
very
36:16
closely
36:16
in
36:16
this
36:17
game
36:17
was
36:17
trying
36:17
to,
36:18
like,
36:18
see
36:19
anytime
36:19
he
36:19
and
36:20
Laitner
36:20
were
36:20
together.
36:21
And
36:21
again,
36:21
you're
36:22
getting
36:22
an
36:22
early
36:22
Leitner
36:23
here,
36:23
but
36:24
you're
36:24
also
36:24
just.
36:25
Leitner
36:25
is
36:26
pretty
36:26
much
36:26
neutralized
36:27
most
36:27
of
36:28
this
36:28
game.
36:28
He
36:28
was
36:29
already
36:29
a
36:29
good
36:30
player,
36:30
but
36:30
very
36:30
much
36:30
neutralized.
36:31
Hurley
36:32
was,
36:32
too,
36:32
to
36:32
some
36:33
degree.
36:33
Not
36:33
that
36:33
he
36:33
was
36:33
a
36:34
big
36:34
score.
36:34
I
36:34
saw
36:34
one
36:35
article
36:35
that
36:35
made
36:35
A
36:35
big
36:36
deal.
36:36
He
36:36
only
36:37
scored
36:37
two
36:37
points.
36:37
But
36:38
you
36:38
go
36:38
look
36:38
at,
36:39
I
36:39
mean
36:39
that
36:39
just
36:39
wasn't
36:40
him,
36:40
you
36:40
know,
36:40
at
36:41
this
36:41
point
36:41
in
36:41
his
36:41
career.
36:42
At
36:42
least,
36:42
you
36:42
know,
36:43
looking
36:44
at
36:44
the
36:44
game
36:44
just
36:45
as
36:45
a
36:45
whole.
36:45
To
36:46
talk
36:46
about
36:46
Duke
36:46
for
36:46
a
36:47
second.
36:47
Just
36:47
to
36:47
talk
36:47
about
36:47
the
36:48
opponent.
36:49
Like
36:49
I
36:50
was
36:50
floored
36:51
by
36:51
the
36:51
lack
36:51
of
36:52
depth
36:52
that
36:52
Duke
36:53
had.
36:53
Yes.
36:53
Because
36:54
they
36:54
had
36:54
no
36:54
answer.
36:55
And
36:55
it
36:55
was
36:55
evident
36:56
quick
36:56
that
36:57
they
36:57
had
36:57
no
36:57
answer.
36:58
But
36:58
they
36:58
also
36:59
just
36:59
appeared
37:00
to
37:00
be
37:01
shell
37:02
shocked.
37:02
I
37:03
think
37:03
they
37:03
were
37:03
averaging
37:03
15
37:04
turnovers
37:04
a
37:04
game.
37:05
They
37:05
had
37:06
I
37:06
think
37:06
nine
37:07
in
37:07
the
37:07
first
37:07
eight
37:08
minutes.
37:09
Like
37:09
it
37:09
looks
37:10
like
37:10
they
37:10
are
37:10
not
37:11
prepared.
37:12
Yeah,
37:12
exactly.
37:12
For
37:13
what
37:13
UNLV
37:14
was
37:14
throwing
37:14
at
37:14
them.
37:15
And
37:15
I
37:15
know
37:16
it
37:16
was,
37:16
you
37:17
know,
37:17
they
37:17
had
37:17
a
37:17
year
37:18
and
37:18
it
37:18
was
37:18
different
37:18
the
37:19
following
37:19
year.
37:20
You
37:20
have
37:21
to
37:21
say
37:21
the
37:22
following
37:22
year
37:22
happened
37:23
because
37:23
of
37:24
the
37:24
fact
37:24
that
37:24
they
37:24
were
37:24
punched
37:25
in
37:25
the
37:25
mouth.
37:25
Yes,
37:26
immediately
37:26
this
37:27
way.
37:27
And
37:27
they
37:27
experienced
37:28
that
37:28
for
37:28
40
37:28
minutes.
37:29
But
37:29
Laitner
37:30
is
37:30
such
37:30
a
37:30
non
37:30
factor
37:31
in
37:31
this.
37:31
Hurley
37:31
is
37:32
such
37:32
a
37:32
non
37:32
factor.
37:32
But
37:32
there's
37:33
a
37:33
point
37:33
in
37:34
the
37:34
first
37:34
half
37:34
where
37:35
they
37:35
can't
37:35
get
37:35
the
37:36
ball
37:37
past
37:37
like
37:37
the
37:38
timeline
37:39
and
37:39
like
37:39
Hurley's
37:40
trying
37:40
to
37:40
give
37:40
Hurley
37:41
a
37:41
blow
37:42
and
37:42
he
37:42
can't.
37:43
Yeah,
37:43
like
37:43
he
37:43
has
37:44
to
37:44
bring
37:44
Hurley
37:45
back
37:45
in
37:45
just
37:45
to
37:45
get
37:46
the
37:46
ball
37:47
inside
37:47
the
37:48
three
37:48
point
37:48
line.
37:48
Yeah,
37:49
you're
37:49
right.
37:50
The
37:50
depth
37:50
and
37:51
that's
37:51
something
37:51
that
37:51
stands
37:52
out
37:52
just
37:52
because
37:52
I
37:53
feel
37:53
like
37:53
the
37:54
Duke
37:54
teams
37:54
to
37:55
come
37:55
from
37:55
this
37:56
were
37:56
so
37:56
deep,
37:57
you
37:57
know,
37:57
in
37:58
such
37:58
a
37:58
different.
37:59
Like
37:59
this
37:59
is
37:59
a
38:00
very
38:01
interesting
38:01
team
38:02
when
38:02
you
38:02
look
38:02
at
38:02
it
38:03
compared
38:03
to
38:03
what
38:03
we
38:03
then
38:04
experienced
38:04
with
38:04
Duke
38:05
through
38:05
the
38:05
next
38:06
decade
38:06
plus
38:06
or
38:07
whatever.
38:07
But
38:08
I
38:08
heard
38:09
a
38:09
good
38:09
interview
38:09
with
38:10
Coach
38:10
K
38:11
where
38:11
he
38:11
does
38:12
give
38:12
a
38:12
lot
38:12
of
38:15
the
38:15
attributes
38:16
to
38:16
their
38:16
success
38:17
in
38:17
the
38:17
90s,
38:18
goes
38:18
back
38:18
to
38:19
this
38:19
game
38:19
and
38:20
like
38:20
how
38:20
you
38:20
kind
38:20
of
38:21
have
38:21
to
38:21
experience
38:22
something
38:22
like
38:22
this
38:23
and
38:23
that
38:23
how
38:24
this
38:24
really
38:24
changed
38:25
everything
38:26
for,
38:26
for
38:26
Hurley
38:27
and
38:27
Leitner
38:28
specifically
38:29
and
38:29
how
38:29
they
38:29
approached
38:30
everything
38:30
going
38:31
forward.
38:32
But
38:33
the
38:33
other
38:33
one
38:34
he
38:34
would
38:34
give
38:34
a
38:34
big
38:35
nod
38:35
to
38:36
was
38:36
the
38:36
fact
38:36
that
38:37
the
38:37
next
38:37
season
38:37
also
38:38
was
38:38
Grant
38:38
Hill.
38:39
Yeah,
38:39
Grant
38:39
Hill
38:40
arrives
38:40
at
38:40
Duke
38:40
and
38:41
just
38:41
kind
38:41
of
38:41
the
38:41
difference
38:41
he
38:42
made.
38:43
And,
38:43
and
38:43
he
38:43
does
38:44
talk,
38:44
he
38:44
talked
38:44
a
38:45
little
38:45
bit
38:45
about
38:45
just
38:46
overall
38:47
like
38:47
the,
38:47
you
38:48
know,
38:48
the
38:48
depth
38:48
of
38:49
the
38:49
team.
38:49
And
38:49
he
38:49
didn't
38:50
word
38:50
it
38:50
that
38:50
way,
38:51
but
38:51
he
38:51
basically
38:51
just
38:51
said
38:52
we
38:52
got
38:52
more
38:52
good
38:53
players.
38:53
Well,
38:54
just
38:54
to
38:54
wrap
38:54
a
38:55
bow
38:55
on.
38:55
On
38:56
Duke
38:56
and
38:56
then
38:57
we
38:57
can
38:57
move
38:57
on
38:57
to
38:57
UNLV.
38:58
But
38:59
in
38:59
the
39:00
YouTube
39:00
broadcast,
39:01
you
39:01
know
39:01
how
39:02
it'll.
39:02
You
39:02
can
39:03
see
39:03
like
39:03
if
39:03
you
39:03
start
39:04
to,
39:05
to
39:05
scan
39:05
the
39:06
timeline,
39:06
you
39:06
know,
39:06
if
39:06
you
39:06
start
39:07
to
39:07
move
39:07
the
39:07
cursor
39:07
along
39:08
the
39:08
Timeline,
39:08
it'll
39:08
give
39:08
you
39:09
the
39:09
peaks
39:10
like
39:10
what
39:10
the.
39:10
What
39:11
people
39:11
watch
39:11
the
39:11
most.
39:12
Yes.
39:12
Did
39:13
you
39:13
see
39:13
that
39:13
the
39:13
most
39:14
watched
39:14
moment
39:15
was
39:15
when
39:16
Laitner
39:17
gets
39:17
high
39:17
fived
39:17
in
39:18
the
39:18
face
39:18
by
39:18
Thomas
39:18
Davis?
39:19
No,
39:19
I
39:19
did
39:19
not
39:19
see
39:19
him.
39:20
Pokes
39:20
his
39:20
eye
39:21
out
39:21
like.
39:21
No,
39:21
this
39:21
game
39:22
is
39:22
so
39:23
such
39:23
a
39:23
non.
39:24
Like
39:24
there's
39:25
no
39:25
peaks
39:25
and
39:25
valleys
39:26
in
39:26
this
39:26
thing.
39:26
It
39:26
is
39:26
immediately
39:27
from
39:27
the
39:27
jump
39:27
straight
39:28
unlv.
39:29
But
39:29
the
39:29
most
39:30
like
39:30
popular
39:31
moment
39:32
is
39:32
when
39:32
later
39:33
gets
39:33
high
39:34
fived
39:34
in
39:34
the
39:34
face.
39:35
That's
39:35
what.
39:35
What
39:35
a
39:36
non
39:36
factor
39:37
Duke
39:37
was.
39:37
Yes.
39:38
In
39:38
this,
39:38
in
39:38
this
39:39
context,
39:39
yeah.
39:39
There
39:39
really
39:39
isn't
39:40
from
39:40
a
39:40
play
39:40
perspective
39:41
much
39:41
to
39:41
go
39:41
back
39:42
and
39:42
look.
39:42
And
39:42
again,
39:42
I
39:43
think
39:43
that's
39:43
also
39:43
just
39:43
a
39:44
clear
39:44
sign
39:44
of.
39:45
I
39:46
hate
39:46
Christian
39:46
Laitner.
39:47
Right.
39:47
Just
39:47
what
39:47
you
39:48
said.
39:48
People
39:48
just
39:48
want
39:48
to
39:49
go
39:49
see
39:49
him
39:50
in
39:50
an
39:50
awkward
39:50
moment
39:51
getting
39:51
high
39:51
fived
39:52
in
39:52
the
39:52
eye
39:52
or
39:52
whatever.
39:53
But
39:54
yeah,
39:55
I
39:55
don't
39:55
know,
39:55
this
39:55
was
39:56
a
39:56
tough
39:56
one
39:56
for
39:56
young
39:57
14
39:57
year
39:57
old
39:57
Scott.
39:58
Just
39:58
because
39:58
I
39:58
definitely
40:00
paid
40:01
attention
40:01
to
40:01
this
40:02
season
40:02
a
40:02
lot
40:02
and
40:03
had
40:03
watched
40:03
Duke
40:04
at
40:04
any
40:04
opportunity
40:05
allowed
40:06
and
40:06
very
40:07
much
40:07
knew
40:08
a
40:08
lot
40:08
about
40:08
Leitner
40:09
and
40:09
Hurley
40:09
already
40:09
at
40:10
this
40:10
point.
40:10
But
40:12
nonetheless
40:13
it
40:13
didn't
40:13
go
40:13
the
40:14
way
40:14
we
40:14
want
40:14
it
40:14
for
40:14
the
40:14
Duke,
40:15
the
40:15
Dookies.
40:16
So
40:17
yeah,
40:17
let's
40:17
get
40:17
to
40:17
UNLV
40:18
and
40:18
kind
40:18
of
40:18
that
40:19
season
40:19
and
40:19
we'll
40:19
just
40:20
touch
40:20
on
40:20
the
40:20
season
40:20
real
40:21
quickly
40:21
before
40:21
we
40:21
actually
40:22
get
40:22
into
40:22
the
40:22
game.
40:23
So
40:23
had
40:23
a
40:23
lot
40:23
of
40:24
success
40:24
throughout
40:24
the
40:24
season.
40:25
By
40:25
no
40:25
means
40:26
were
40:26
they
40:26
perfect.
40:28
They,
40:29
you
40:29
know,
40:29
when
40:29
you
40:29
go
40:29
back
40:30
and
40:30
you
40:30
look
40:30
at
40:31
their
40:31
schedule
40:31
and
40:32
some
40:32
of
40:32
those
40:32
games,
40:33
it's
40:33
almost
40:34
like,
40:34
you
40:34
know,
40:35
big
40:35
win,
40:35
blowout
40:36
win,
40:36
giant
40:37
win
40:37
and
40:38
then
40:38
they
40:38
would
40:38
lose
40:38
to
40:39
someone
40:39
and
40:39
I
40:39
don't
40:39
have
40:40
it
40:40
in
40:40
front
40:40
of
40:40
me
40:40
right
40:40
now,
40:40
but
40:41
someone
40:41
like
40:41
a
40:41
UC
40:41
Santa
40:42
Barbara
40:42
where
40:43
it's
40:43
just
40:43
like
40:43
what
40:43
happened
40:44
here.
40:45
And
40:45
I
40:45
did
40:45
see
40:46
Tark
40:47
basically
40:47
just,
40:47
you
40:47
know,
40:48
basically
40:48
just
40:48
it
40:48
was
40:49
boredom.
40:49
It
40:50
was
40:50
boredom
40:50
with
40:50
just
40:51
basically
40:52
they
40:52
were
40:53
drumming
40:53
everybody
40:54
and
40:54
then
40:55
they
40:55
would
40:55
run
40:55
into,
40:56
you
40:56
know,
40:57
whatever,
40:57
you
40:57
know,
40:58
whatever
40:58
team
40:58
was
40:59
most
40:59
geared
40:59
up
40:59
for
41:00
them.
41:00
But
41:01
early
41:01
in
41:01
the
41:01
season,
41:01
you
41:02
know,
41:02
they
41:02
were
41:02
preseason
41:03
number
41:03
one.
41:05
And
41:06
so
41:06
you
41:06
have
41:06
a
41:06
target
41:07
on
41:07
your
41:07
back.
41:07
So
41:08
I
41:08
mean,
41:08
you
41:08
let
41:08
down
41:09
your
41:09
guard
41:10
just
41:10
a
41:10
little
41:11
and
41:11
a
41:12
college
41:12
basketball
41:13
team
41:13
is
41:13
going
41:13
to
41:13
be
41:13
able
41:13
to
41:14
beat
41:14
you.
41:14
You
41:14
know
41:14
what
41:15
I
41:15
mean?
41:15
And
41:15
again,
41:16
even
41:16
though
41:17
they
41:17
were
41:17
this
41:18
talented
41:18
and
41:19
had
41:19
this
41:19
much
41:19
depth,
41:20
it
41:21
still
41:21
kind
41:21
of
41:21
speaks
41:22
to
41:22
the
41:22
fact
41:22
on,
41:22
on
41:23
any
41:23
given
41:23
night
41:24
these
41:24
are
41:24
still
41:25
elite
41:25
college
41:26
athletes,
41:26
even
41:26
if
41:27
they
41:27
are
41:27
at
41:27
one
41:28
of
41:28
these
41:28
other
41:28
small
41:29
schools
41:29
or
41:29
whatever.
41:30
So
41:31
by
41:31
no
41:31
means
41:32
perfect
41:32
throughout
41:32
the
41:32
year,
41:33
but
41:34
very
41:35
much
41:35
a
41:35
night
41:35
they.
41:35
Lost
41:36
at
41:36
New
41:36
Mexico
41:37
State.
41:37
Yep.
41:38
And
41:38
lost
41:39
at
41:39
UC
41:40
Santa
41:40
Barbara.
41:40
Yeah,
41:41
right
41:41
there
41:41
before.
41:42
But
41:42
both
41:42
of
41:42
them
41:42
were,
41:42
were
41:43
close
41:43
victories.
41:44
They
41:44
did
41:44
have
41:44
some
41:44
noble
41:45
losses
41:46
to
41:46
Kansas,
41:47
Oklahoma
41:47
and
41:47
lsu.
41:48
Those
41:48
are
41:48
the
41:49
five
41:49
losses.
41:49
But
41:50
yeah,
41:51
the
41:51
UC
41:51
Santa
41:52
Barbara,
41:54
I
41:54
mean,
41:54
they've
41:55
got
41:55
to
41:55
have
41:56
a
41:56
banner.
41:57
I
41:57
was
41:57
going
41:58
to
41:58
have
41:58
a
41:58
banner
41:58
or
41:58
a
41:59
plaque
41:59
or.
42:00
I
42:01
mean,
42:01
that's
42:01
got
42:01
to
42:01
be
42:01
the
42:01
greatest
42:02
win
42:02
in
42:02
UC
42:03
Santa
42:03
Barbara
42:03
history.
42:04
Gotta
42:04
be.
42:04
And
42:04
I,
42:05
and
42:05
I.
42:05
And
42:05
at
42:05
one
42:06
point
42:06
I
42:06
was
42:06
gonna
42:06
go
42:06
look
42:07
for
42:07
the,
42:08
for
42:09
the
42:09
box
42:09
score
42:09
on
42:09
that
42:10
just
42:10
to
42:10
see
42:10
if
42:10
maybe
42:11
Tark
42:11
rested
42:12
everybody
42:12
or
42:13
something.
42:13
But
42:14
even
42:14
then,
42:14
I
42:14
mean,
42:15
when
42:15
you
42:15
look
42:15
at
42:15
the
42:15
depth
42:16
of,
42:16
and
42:16
the
42:16
talent
42:17
that
42:17
comes
42:17
off
42:17
the
42:18
bench
42:18
in
42:18
this
42:18
game
42:19
when
42:19
they
42:19
play
42:19
Duke
42:19
in
42:20
the
42:20
national
42:20
championship,
42:21
I
42:21
mean,
42:21
they
42:21
did
42:21
have
42:22
depth.
42:22
They
42:23
did
42:23
have
42:23
guys
42:23
that
42:23
could
42:24
come
42:24
off
42:24
and
42:25
fill
42:25
it,
42:25
you
42:25
know,
42:25
if.
42:26
They
42:26
needed
42:26
to
42:26
show
42:26
you
42:27
how
42:27
inconsequential
42:28
their
42:28
schedule
42:29
was.
42:29
On
42:30
Wikipedia,
42:31
a
42:31
lot
42:31
of
42:31
those
42:31
teams
42:32
do
42:32
not
42:32
have
42:32
links
42:33
to
42:33
their
42:33
own
42:33
pages.
42:34
It's
42:35
like
42:36
it's
42:36
UC
42:36
Irvine,
42:37
UC
42:37
Santa
42:38
Barbara,
42:39
Utah
42:40
State,
42:40
Cal
42:40
State
42:41
Fullerton.
42:41
Nobody
42:42
has
42:42
links
42:43
to,
42:44
to
42:44
their
42:44
team
42:44
page.
42:46
Well,
42:48
the,
42:48
the.
42:50
And
42:50
again,
42:50
that,
42:50
that
42:51
goes
42:51
to
42:51
show
42:51
you.
42:51
And
42:52
I
42:52
guess,
42:52
you
42:52
know,
42:52
the
42:53
boredom
42:53
thing
42:53
probably
42:54
does
42:54
play
42:54
out
42:54
a
42:54
little
42:55
bit.
42:55
I
42:55
can
42:55
understand
42:55
that
42:56
to
42:56
some
42:56
degree.
42:58
The
42:58
thing
42:59
I
42:59
think
42:59
that
42:59
they're
42:59
most
42:59
well
43:00
known
43:00
for
43:00
throughout
43:01
this,
43:01
this
43:01
season,
43:02
though,
43:02
is
43:02
just
43:03
the
43:03
suffocating
43:03
defense.
43:04
I
43:04
mean,
43:05
the
43:06
amoeba,
43:06
they
43:06
had
43:06
tons
43:07
of
43:08
guys
43:08
that
43:08
could
43:08
score
43:09
it
43:09
on
43:10
command,
43:10
but
43:11
the
43:11
difference
43:11
here
43:12
was
43:12
that
43:12
they
43:12
could
43:13
just
43:13
shut
43:13
people
43:13
down
43:14
and
43:14
take
43:14
their
43:15
big,
43:15
the
43:15
other
43:16
teams,
43:16
the
43:16
opponent's
43:17
best
43:17
scoring
43:17
threats,
43:18
completely
43:18
out
43:18
of
43:19
the
43:19
game.
43:20
It
43:20
was
43:20
just
43:21
absolutely
43:21
unstoppable.
43:22
You're
43:22
far
43:23
more
43:23
of
43:23
a
43:23
basketball
43:24
technician,
43:24
but
43:24
it
43:24
was
43:25
a
43:25
113
43:25
zone.
43:26
I'll
43:26
say
43:26
that
43:27
as
43:27
my
43:27
one,
43:28
you.
43:29
Know,
43:29
nod
43:30
to
43:31
know
43:31
more
43:32
philosophy
43:32
was
43:34
we
43:35
are
43:35
going
43:35
to
43:35
play
43:35
high
43:35
pressure
43:36
defense
43:36
from
43:36
the
43:37
start.
43:37
And
43:37
even
43:37
if
43:38
we
43:38
get
43:38
into
43:38
foul
43:39
trouble
43:39
early
43:39
or
43:39
they
43:40
call
43:40
fouls
43:40
on
43:40
us
43:41
early,
43:41
it
43:41
doesn't
43:42
matter
43:42
because
43:42
at
43:43
some
43:43
point
43:44
they're
43:44
going
43:44
to
43:44
get
43:44
sick
43:45
and
43:45
tired
43:45
of
43:45
calling
43:46
fouls
43:46
on
43:46
us
43:47
and
43:47
we're
43:47
going
43:47
to
43:48
keep
43:48
going
43:48
and
43:49
that's
43:49
going
43:49
to
43:49
give
43:49
us
43:50
an
43:50
advantage.
43:50
Yeah.
43:51
And
43:51
I
43:51
mean,
43:51
just
43:52
the
43:52
fatigue
43:53
you're
43:53
putting
43:54
on
43:54
the
43:54
other
43:54
team
43:54
when
43:55
you
43:55
do
43:55
have
43:55
depth
43:56
and
43:56
you've
43:56
got
43:56
guys
43:56
that
43:57
can
43:57
come
43:57
off
43:57
the
43:57
bench
43:57
in
43:58
the
43:58
case
43:58
LJ
43:59
fouls
43:59
down
43:59
or
44:00
something
44:00
like
44:00
that.
44:01
They,
44:01
they
44:01
had
44:01
a
44:02
team
44:02
kind
44:02
of
44:02
built
44:03
for
44:03
that
44:03
for
44:03
sure.
44:04
And
44:04
it
44:04
was
44:05
evident
44:05
in
44:05
this
44:05
game,
44:06
without
44:06
a
44:06
doubt.
44:07
I
44:07
mean,
44:07
just
44:07
absolutely
44:08
Suffocating
44:08
defense.
44:09
I
44:10
read,
44:10
too.
44:10
Just
44:10
their
44:11
ability
44:11
to
44:13
play
44:13
through
44:13
discomfort.
44:14
Tark
44:15
used
44:15
to
44:16
set
44:17
the
44:17
thermostat
44:17
at
44:18
90
44:18
degrees
44:18
or
44:19
hotter
44:19
during
44:20
practices.
44:21
To
44:21
get
44:21
them
44:21
conditioned.
44:22
All
44:22
you
44:22
need
44:22
to
44:22
do
44:23
is
44:23
walk
44:23
outside.
44:23
Exactly.
44:24
In
44:24
the
44:24
desert.
44:25
Yes.
44:25
And
44:25
again,
44:26
I
44:26
think
44:27
the
44:27
conditioning
44:27
shows
44:28
up
44:28
in
44:28
this
44:28
game
44:28
clearly,
44:29
because
44:30
while
44:30
it's
44:31
not
44:31
even
44:31
a
44:31
contest
44:32
once
44:32
it
44:32
gets
44:33
started,
44:33
I
44:34
mean,
44:34
the
44:34
real
44:35
run
44:35
happens
44:35
in
44:36
the
44:36
second
44:36
half
44:36
of
44:36
this
44:37
game.
44:37
That's
44:37
when
44:37
they
44:37
just
44:38
shut
44:38
the
44:38
door
44:38
and
44:39
say,
44:39
it
44:39
is
44:39
over.
44:40
Duke.
44:40
It's
44:40
three
44:41
or
44:41
four
44:41
minutes
44:41
into
44:41
the
44:41
second
44:42
half.
44:42
Duke
44:42
cuts
44:42
it
44:43
to
44:43
11.
44:43
Yeah.
44:44
And
44:44
then
44:44
I
44:45
believe
44:45
UNLV
44:46
goes
44:46
on
44:46
a
44:47
90
44:47
or
44:48
11
44:48
oh
44:48
run.
44:49
It's
44:49
then
44:50
the
44:50
lead.
44:50
It's
44:50
like
44:51
in
44:51
two
44:51
minutes.
44:51
Yeah,
44:51
it's
44:52
like
44:52
two,
44:52
two
44:52
and
44:52
a
44:52
half
44:52
minutes.
44:53
And
44:53
that's
44:54
it.
44:54
Like,
44:54
it's.
44:55
It's
44:55
rear
44:55
view
44:56
from
44:56
there
44:56
on
44:56
out.
44:57
Yeah,
44:57
I
44:57
believe
44:57
it
44:58
was
44:58
even
44:58
bigger
44:58
than
44:59
that.
44:59
Like,
44:59
the
44:59
run.
45:00
I
45:00
think
45:00
it
45:00
was
45:00
even
45:00
bigger
45:01
than
45:01
that.
45:01
I
45:01
think
45:01
it
45:02
was
45:02
15.
45:03
But
45:03
nonetheless,
45:04
they.
45:05
They
45:05
absolutely
45:05
shut
45:06
them
45:06
down.
45:06
And
45:06
that
45:07
whole
45:07
thing
45:07
when
45:07
you.
45:08
I
45:08
went
45:08
back
45:08
and
45:08
re.
45:08
Watched
45:09
that
45:09
a
45:09
second
45:09
time
45:10
as
45:10
well,
45:10
just
45:10
in
45:10
that
45:11
stretch.
45:12
And
45:12
it's
45:12
all
45:12
defense.
45:13
Yeah,
45:13
it's
45:14
all
45:14
geared
45:14
by
45:14
the
45:15
defense.
45:15
I
45:15
mean,
45:15
there
45:15
were
45:16
a
45:16
couple
45:16
of
45:16
the
45:16
buckets
45:17
where,
45:17
like
45:17
you
45:17
said,
45:17
Duke
45:18
didn't
45:18
make
45:18
it
45:18
past
45:19
half
45:19
court.
45:19
They
45:20
just
45:20
took
45:20
it
45:20
away
45:20
from
45:20
them
45:21
again
45:21
and
45:21
went
45:21
down
45:21
and
45:22
scored.
45:23
So
45:23
just
45:23
absolutely
45:25
suffocating
45:25
defense.
45:26
They
45:26
forced
45:26
23
45:27
turnovers
45:27
and
45:28
held
45:28
Duke
45:28
to
45:28
38.7%
45:30
shooting
45:30
from
45:31
the.
45:31
From
45:31
the
45:31
floor.
45:32
Yeah.
45:32
Like,
45:32
I
45:33
mean,
45:33
it
45:33
was
45:33
just
45:33
a
45:33
master
45:34
class.
45:35
One
45:35
thing
45:36
from
45:36
that
45:36
UC
45:37
Santa
45:37
Barbara
45:38
game
45:38
that
45:38
I
45:38
read
45:39
about
45:39
was
45:39
that
45:40
the
45:40
kids
45:41
at
45:41
that
45:41
game
45:41
start
45:42
throwing
45:42
tortillas.
45:44
So
45:44
that
45:45
didn't
45:45
start
45:45
at
45:45
Texas
45:46
Tech
45:46
football.
45:46
It
45:47
started
45:47
with
45:47
UC
45:48
Santa
45:48
Barbara
45:49
basketball,
45:50
maybe.
45:50
What
45:50
do
45:50
you
45:50
think?
45:51
Yeah,
45:51
there's
45:52
Banana
45:52
Slugs,
45:53
right.
45:53
I
45:53
believe
45:54
you're
45:54
right.
45:54
Isn't
45:55
that
45:55
this
45:55
church?
45:56
Yeah.
45:56
Okay,
45:57
so
45:58
Tark
45:58
afterwards
45:59
said
45:59
in
45:59
a
46:00
news
46:00
conference
46:00
they're
46:01
throwing
46:01
food
46:02
because
46:02
they
46:02
know
46:02
they
46:03
can't
46:03
stop
46:03
the
46:04
hunger.
46:05
I
46:06
don't
46:06
even
46:06
know
46:06
what
46:06
that
46:06
means.
46:07
Me
46:07
neither.
46:08
But
46:08
I'm
46:08
also
46:08
thinking
46:09
that's
46:09
the
46:09
game
46:09
they
46:10
lost.
46:10
Well,
46:11
they
46:11
lost
46:11
at
46:11
Santa
46:12
Barbara
46:12
by
46:12
eight.
46:13
Yeah.
46:13
And
46:14
this
46:14
was
46:14
at.
46:14
At
46:15
that
46:15
season.
46:15
And
46:16
they
46:16
didn't
46:16
even.
46:16
Santa
46:16
Barbara.
46:17
The
46:17
tournament.
46:18
The
46:18
west
46:18
coast
46:19
tournament
46:19
was
46:20
like
46:20
a
46:20
week
46:20
later.
46:21
And
46:21
they
46:21
didn't
46:21
play
46:22
Santa
46:22
Barbara.
46:22
No.
46:23
Like,
46:23
they
46:23
played
46:24
Cal
46:24
State,
46:24
Fullerton
46:25
Pacific
46:25
and
46:25
Long
46:26
Beach
46:26
State.
46:26
This
46:27
five,
46:27
six
46:27
and
46:27
seven
46:27
seeds.
46:28
Someone
46:29
else
46:29
eliminated
46:30
the
46:30
Banana
46:30
Slugs
46:31
is
46:31
what
46:31
you're
46:31
Saying,
46:32
yeah,
46:32
they
46:32
couldn't
46:32
even
46:32
make.
46:33
They
46:33
had
46:33
big
46:33
game
46:33
letdowns.
46:34
Yeah,
46:34
exactly.
46:36
All
46:36
right,
46:36
so
46:37
let's
46:37
jump
46:37
to
46:37
the
46:37
game
46:38
itself
46:41
in
46:41
Denver,
46:42
Colorado.
46:42
So
46:43
again,
46:43
you
46:43
talk
46:43
about
46:43
conditioning.
46:44
I
46:44
don't
46:44
know
46:45
when
46:45
the
46:45
last
46:45
time
46:45
you
46:45
tried
46:46
to
46:46
run
46:46
up
46:47
and
46:47
down
46:47
a
46:47
basketball
46:48
court
46:48
100
46:49
times
46:49
in
46:49
Denver
46:50
was,
46:50
but
46:50
I'm
46:51
gonna
46:51
guess
46:51
it
46:51
feels
46:51
different
46:52
from,
46:53
you
46:53
know,
46:53
where
46:53
we're
46:54
at
46:54
and
46:54
probably
46:54
even
46:55
more
46:55
so
46:55
than
46:55
Vegas.
46:56
And
46:56
I
46:56
know
46:56
this
46:57
is
46:57
just
46:57
a
46:57
footnote,
46:57
but
46:58
they
46:58
had
46:58
played.
46:59
Excuse
46:59
me.
47:00
They
47:00
played
47:00
their
47:01
semifinal
47:01
against
47:01
Georgia
47:02
Tech,
47:03
who
47:03
had
47:03
Kenny
47:04
Anderson
47:04
as
47:05
the
47:05
point
47:05
guard.
47:05
The
47:05
great
47:06
Kenny.
47:06
Loved
47:06
Kenny
47:07
Anderson.
47:07
Yes.
47:08
Love
47:08
Kenny
47:08
Anderson
47:09
as
47:09
a
47:09
point
47:09
guard.
47:09
I
47:09
loved
47:10
him
47:10
myself.
47:11
That's
47:11
a
47:12
fellow.
47:12
As
47:12
part
47:13
of
47:13
the
47:13
point
47:13
guard
47:13
fraternity
47:14
that
47:14
we're
47:14
in.
47:15
I
47:15
also
47:16
have
47:17
similar
47:17
said
47:17
love
47:18
for
47:18
Kenny
47:18
Anderson.
47:19
You.
47:21
We
47:22
dish
47:22
it.
47:22
We
47:22
dish
47:23
the
47:23
rock.
47:23
That's
47:23
what
47:24
we
47:24
do.
47:25
Like,
47:25
you're
47:25
like,
47:26
imagine,
47:26
no,
47:27
Kenny
47:27
could
47:27
score.
47:28
I'm
47:28
Kenny
47:28
Anderson.
47:29
Yeah.
47:29
Kenny
47:30
could
47:30
score.
47:30
Yeah.
47:31
And
47:32
they
47:32
beat
47:32
them
47:33
by
47:33
a
47:33
nine.
47:35
But,
47:35
you
47:35
know,
47:36
that's.
47:36
That
47:36
was
47:36
an
47:36
up
47:37
and
47:37
down
47:37
game.
47:37
I
47:37
mean,
47:37
they.
47:38
They
47:38
played
47:39
two
47:39
up
47:39
and
47:39
down
47:40
games
47:40
in
47:40
Denver.
47:41
Yes.
47:42
At
47:42
the
47:42
McNichols.
47:43
And
47:43
by
47:43
the
47:43
way,
47:44
quick
47:44
thing.
47:46
We've
47:46
got
47:46
the
47:46
game
47:47
going
47:47
on.
47:47
On
47:47
the
47:47
tv.
47:48
Yeah.
47:48
The
47:49
just
47:49
lack
47:50
of
47:50
fanfare
47:50
on
47:51
the
47:51
court.
47:51
It
47:51
was
47:52
the
47:52
first
47:52
thing.
47:52
There's
47:53
no,
47:54
like,
47:54
it.
47:54
It
47:55
looks
47:55
like
47:56
Brian
47:56
High.
47:57
I
47:58
mean,
47:58
there's.
47:58
There's
47:58
the
47:58
big
47:59
McNichols
47:59
and
47:59
the
47:59
big
48:00
Denver
48:00
on
48:00
the.
48:01
On
48:01
the
48:01
sidelines,
48:02
but
48:02
there's
48:03
no
48:03
massive
48:04
mountain.
48:05
No.
48:05
At
48:06
half
48:06
court.
48:06
Now,
48:07
the.
48:08
The.
48:09
There's
48:09
the.
48:10
The
48:10
key.
48:11
The.
48:11
The
48:12
paint
48:12
is
48:12
literally
48:13
just
48:13
orange.
48:14
It's
48:14
like
48:14
almost
48:15
like
48:15
Syracuse
48:15
colors.
48:16
Yeah.
48:16
And
48:16
it
48:17
kind
48:17
of
48:17
goes
48:17
to
48:17
a
48:17
lot
48:18
of
48:18
things
48:18
with.
48:18
This
48:18
is
48:19
like.
48:19
I
48:20
feel
48:20
like
48:20
this
48:20
is
48:21
the
48:21
end
48:22
of
48:23
low
48:23
production.
48:24
Everything
48:25
about
48:25
this,
48:25
even
48:26
watching
48:26
it,
48:26
the
48:27
replay
48:27
of
48:27
the
48:27
television
48:28
broadcast.
48:30
How
48:30
nut
48:31
nutty
48:31
does
48:31
it
48:31
make
48:32
you
48:32
that
48:32
the
48:32
score's
48:33
not
48:33
on
48:33
the
48:33
screen?
48:34
Dude,
48:34
like,
48:34
90
48:35
of
48:35
the
48:36
time.
48:36
I.
48:36
I
48:37
was
48:37
sitting
48:37
there
48:38
going
48:38
like,
48:38
I
48:38
wanted
48:38
to.
48:39
I
48:39
was
48:39
trying
48:39
to
48:39
make
48:39
notes
48:40
while
48:40
watching
48:40
the
48:40
game.
48:41
Yeah.
48:41
And
48:41
I'm
48:41
like,
48:42
they
48:43
don't
48:43
have
48:43
the
48:43
time
48:43
on
48:43
there.
48:43
They
48:44
don't
48:44
have
48:44
the
48:44
score.
48:44
So,
48:45
like
48:45
three
48:45
or
48:45
four
48:45
trips
48:46
back
48:46
up
48:46
and
48:46
down,
48:46
and
48:47
then
48:47
they're
48:47
like,
48:47
oh,
48:48
here's
48:48
the
48:48
score.
48:48
But
48:48
flash
48:48
it
48:48
up
48:49
for,
48:49
like,
48:49
four
48:49
seconds.
48:50
So
48:50
did
48:50
the
48:50
generation
48:51
before
48:51
us
48:51
have
48:52
just
48:52
such
48:52
outstanding
48:53
memories
48:53
and
48:53
they
48:54
were
48:54
able
48:54
to
48:54
track
48:55
it
48:55
to
48:55
where
48:55
at
48:55
any
48:55
point
48:56
they
48:56
were
48:56
like,
48:56
well,
48:56
obviously
48:57
it's.
48:57
Well,
48:58
I
48:58
mean,
48:58
it
48:58
was
48:58
just.
48:58
It
48:59
was
48:59
what
48:59
they
48:59
were
48:59
used
49:00
to,
49:00
Right?
49:01
Yeah,
49:01
but
49:01
what
49:01
sense
49:02
does
49:02
it
49:02
make?
49:02
I
49:03
don't
49:03
even
49:03
understand.
49:04
You
49:04
know
49:04
what
49:04
I
49:04
mean?
49:05
Like,
49:05
why
49:05
wouldn't
49:06
the
49:06
score
49:06
always
49:06
be
49:07
on
49:07
there
49:07
Unless.
49:08
I
49:08
guess
49:08
it
49:08
was
49:09
just
49:09
a
49:09
process.
49:09
It
49:10
wasn't
49:10
like
49:10
a,
49:10
a
49:11
button.
49:11
I'll
49:12
be
49:12
honest
49:12
with
49:12
you.
49:12
In
49:12
terms
49:12
of
49:13
just
49:13
watching
49:13
basketball,
49:14
it
49:14
is
49:14
more
49:14
pleasurable,
49:15
but
49:15
you
49:16
are
49:16
not
49:16
tuned
49:16
into
49:17
what's
49:17
going
49:17
on.
49:18
I
49:18
disagree.
49:19
I
49:19
disagree.
49:20
I
49:20
think
49:20
it's
49:21
not
49:21
because
49:21
it's
49:22
not
49:22
like
49:22
the
49:22
score
49:22
is
49:22
taking
49:23
away
49:23
from
49:23
what
49:24
you
49:24
visually
49:24
see.
49:24
Now,
49:25
another
49:25
thing
49:25
too
49:25
is
49:26
that
49:26
the
49:26
graphic
49:26
was
49:27
a
49:27
third
49:27
of
49:27
the
49:27
screen.
49:28
Yes,
49:28
you're
49:28
right.
49:28
I
49:29
think
49:29
if
49:29
you're
49:29
having
49:29
to
49:30
operate.
49:30
Like
49:30
that
49:31
thing
49:31
at
49:31
the
49:31
bottom.
49:32
Yeah,
49:32
you're
49:32
right.
49:32
If
49:33
it's
49:33
got
49:33
to
49:33
be
49:33
that
49:34
graphic,
49:34
then
49:34
I
49:35
don't
49:35
want
49:35
it
49:35
up
49:35
there
49:35
that
49:35
often.
49:36
If
49:36
you're
49:36
just
49:36
wanting
49:37
to
49:37
watch
49:37
basketball
49:38
for
49:38
the,
49:38
for
49:38
the
49:39
pure
49:39
pleasure
49:39
of.
49:39
Basketball
49:40
bowl,
49:40
for
49:40
the
49:41
pure
49:41
love
49:41
of
49:42
Anderson
49:42
Hunt's
49:43
jumper.
49:44
That's
49:44
all
49:44
you
49:44
want
49:44
to
49:44
see.
49:45
And
49:45
hearing
49:45
Brent
49:46
Musburger
49:46
go,
49:47
you're
49:47
looking
49:47
live
49:49
at
49:50
the
49:50
Mile
49:50
High
49:50
City.
49:51
Yes.
49:52
Oh,
49:52
love
49:53
Brent
49:53
Mus
49:53
Burger.
49:55
Cold
49:55
mornings,
49:56
frosty
49:57
windows.
49:57
Yep,
49:58
it's
49:59
that
49:59
time
49:59
of
49:59
year,
50:00
so
50:00
treat
50:00
yourself
50:01
and
50:01
start
50:01
your
50:01
day
50:01
with
50:02
a
50:02
cup
50:02
of
50:02
fresh
50:02
roasted
50:03
sterling
50:04
roastery
50:04
coffee,
50:05
sourced
50:05
from
50:05
around
50:06
the
50:06
world
50:06
and
50:06
roasted
50:07
multiple
50:07
times
50:07
a
50:08
week
50:08
for
50:08
unbeatable
50:09
freshness.
50:10
It's
50:10
the
50:10
kind
50:10
of
50:10
warm
50:11
up
50:11
every
50:11
sports
50:12
fan
50:12
deserves
50:12
this
50:12
holiday
50:13
season.
50:13
And
50:14
right
50:14
now
50:14
you
50:15
can
50:15
win
50:15
one
50:15
of
50:15
three
50:16
$50
50:17
sterling
50:17
gift
50:17
cards
50:18
perfect
50:18
for
50:18
gifting
50:19
or
50:20
building
50:20
your
50:20
own
50:20
winning
50:21
lineup
50:21
of
50:21
java
50:22
in
50:22
the
50:22
morning.
50:22
Enter
50:23
today@sportshistorynetwork.com
50:26
giveaways
50:27
so
50:27
you
50:27
can
50:27
wake
50:28
up,
50:28
warm
50:29
up,
50:29
and
50:29
sterling
50:30
up
50:30
this
50:30
holiday
50:31
season.
50:32
Again,
50:32
that's
50:32
sportshistorynetwork.com
50:35
giveaways.
50:37
So
50:38
again,
50:39
the
50:39
game
50:40
itself,
50:40
as
50:41
you've
50:41
alluded
50:41
to
50:42
and
50:42
we've
50:42
talked
50:42
about,
50:43
just
50:43
from
50:44
the
50:46
tilt
50:46
is
50:48
quickly,
50:48
like
50:48
I,
50:49
I
50:49
want
50:49
to
50:49
say,
50:49
within
50:49
a
50:50
minute
50:50
UNLV
50:51
is
50:51
up
50:51
by
50:51
like
50:51
5.
50:52
Yeah.
50:52
And
50:53
then
50:53
it
50:53
becomes
50:53
9
50:54
around
50:54
the
50:54
3
50:55
minute
50:55
mark
50:55
and
50:56
then
50:56
it
50:56
kind
50:56
of
50:56
stays
50:57
in
50:57
that
50:57
range
50:58
through
50:58
the
50:58
half,
50:58
I
50:59
feel
50:59
like.
50:59
But
50:59
they
50:59
never
51:00
really
51:01
felt
51:01
like
51:01
they
51:02
were
51:02
even
51:03
somewhat
51:04
out
51:04
of
51:04
control
51:04
of
51:05
this.
51:05
It
51:05
reminded
51:05
me
51:06
of
51:06
that
51:06
championship
51:06
game
51:07
between
51:07
Baylor
51:08
and
51:08
Gonzaga
51:09
a
51:09
handful
51:09
of
51:09
years
51:10
ago,
51:10
like
51:10
from
51:10
the
51:11
jump,
51:11
you
51:12
know,
51:12
and
51:12
Gonzaga
51:13
was
51:13
favored,
51:13
but
51:14
Baylor
51:14
came
51:15
out,
51:15
punched
51:15
him
51:16
in
51:16
the
51:16
mouth
51:16
and
51:16
it
51:16
was
51:16
over.
51:17
Yeah.
51:18
Real
51:18
quick.
51:18
It
51:19
felt
51:19
like
51:19
that,
51:20
though.
51:20
Even
51:20
when
51:21
Duke
51:21
got
51:22
a
51:22
little
51:22
bit
51:22
of
51:22
momentum
51:23
going
51:23
back
51:23
their
51:23
way
51:24
or
51:24
a
51:24
little
51:24
bit
51:24
of
51:24
a
51:24
run,
51:25
it
51:25
still
51:26
didn't
51:26
feel
51:26
like
51:26
they
51:26
were
51:27
in
51:27
charge.
51:27
They
51:27
still,
51:28
they
51:28
still
51:28
felt
51:31
that
51:31
they
51:31
were
51:31
overmatched.
51:32
Yeah.
51:32
Athletically,
51:33
you
51:34
know,
51:34
in
51:34
terms
51:34
of
51:34
scheme
51:35
that
51:36
even
51:36
when
51:36
they
51:37
were
51:37
able
51:37
to
51:37
kind
51:38
of.
51:38
It
51:38
was
51:38
just
51:38
like
51:38
everything.
51:39
They
51:39
had
51:39
to
51:39
get
51:39
it
51:39
back
51:40
till
51:40
10,
51:40
11.
51:41
Exactly.
51:41
Yeah.
51:41
And
51:42
then
51:42
that
51:42
you
51:42
and
51:42
LV
51:43
would
51:43
just
51:43
step
51:43
on
51:43
the
51:43
gas.
51:44
Well,
51:44
and
51:44
the,
51:46
you
51:46
know,
51:46
that
51:47
wasn't
51:47
the
51:48
expected,
51:49
you
51:49
know,
51:49
situation.
51:50
UNLV
51:51
was
51:51
favored,
51:51
but
51:51
I
51:52
believe
51:52
it
51:52
was
51:52
only
51:52
by
51:52
four
51:53
and
51:53
a
51:53
half
51:53
points.
51:54
Yeah.
51:54
And
51:55
so
51:55
even,
51:56
you
51:56
know,
51:56
again,
51:56
I
51:57
feel
51:57
like
51:57
in
51:57
hindsight
51:57
it's
51:58
easy
51:58
to
51:58
look
51:58
back
51:58
and
51:58
think,
51:59
oh,
51:59
they
51:59
were
51:59
just
51:59
so
52:00
dominant.
52:00
Right.
52:00
They
52:01
should
52:01
have
52:01
just
52:01
crushed
52:01
Duke.
52:02
But
52:02
I
52:02
do
52:03
think
52:03
from
52:03
a
52:03
national
52:04
perspective,
52:05
and
52:05
at
52:05
least
52:05
with
52:05
the
52:06
media's
52:06
influence
52:07
and
52:07
all
52:07
that,
52:08
it
52:08
was
52:08
supposed
52:08
to
52:08
be
52:08
seen
52:09
as
52:09
a
52:09
closer
52:09
game.
52:10
And
52:10
Duke
52:10
was
52:10
a
52:11
three
52:11
seed,
52:11
which
52:11
is
52:11
interesting
52:12
because
52:12
unlv,
52:13
for
52:13
the,
52:13
for
52:14
the
52:14
most
52:14
part,
52:15
you
52:15
know,
52:15
they
52:15
were
52:15
a
52:16
top
52:16
three
52:16
team
52:17
just
52:17
about
52:17
all
52:17
year.
52:18
You
52:18
know,
52:18
they
52:18
had
52:18
a
52:18
rough
52:18
patch
52:19
at
52:19
the
52:19
beginning
52:19
of
52:19
the
52:19
year,
52:19
but
52:20
then
52:20
they
52:20
really
52:21
were
52:21
able
52:21
to
52:21
kind
52:22
of.
52:22
Because
52:22
even
52:23
like
52:23
when
52:23
they
52:23
lost
52:24
to
52:24
Santa
52:24
Barbara,
52:24
they
52:25
ended
52:25
up.
52:25
They,
52:25
they
52:26
went
52:26
up.
52:26
They
52:27
went
52:27
from
52:27
four
52:27
to
52:28
two.
52:28
Yeah.
52:28
After
52:29
the
52:29
loss
52:29
to
52:29
Santa
52:30
Barbara,
52:30
like
52:30
it
52:30
doesn't
52:30
make
52:30
any
52:31
sense.
52:31
Yes.
52:31
They
52:32
would
52:32
be
52:32
10
52:32
right
52:33
now
52:33
if
52:33
that
52:33
happened.
52:34
Exactly.
52:34
Yeah.
52:35
But
52:35
that
52:36
was
52:36
the
52:36
power
52:36
of
52:36
UC
52:37
Santa
52:37
Barbara,
52:37
I
52:38
guess
52:39
at
52:39
that
52:39
time.
52:39
The
52:40
slugs,
52:40
now
52:41
you
52:41
can
52:41
lose
52:41
to
52:41
them.
52:42
Now
52:42
I
52:42
still
52:42
go
52:42
up
52:43
in
52:43
the
52:43
rankings.
52:43
You
52:44
know
52:44
what?
52:44
I'm
52:44
changing
52:44
my
52:44
mind.
52:45
Our
52:45
next
52:45
podcast
52:46
is
52:46
just
52:46
going
52:46
to
52:46
be.
52:46
We're
52:47
going
52:47
to
52:47
track
52:47
the
52:47
game
52:48
down.
52:48
Yeah,
52:48
yeah,
52:48
we're
52:49
just
52:49
gonna
52:49
do
52:49
that.
52:49
Game
52:50
that
52:50
we
52:50
could
52:50
find
52:50
even
52:51
a
52:51
player
52:51
that
52:51
would
52:51
jump
52:52
on.
52:52
Oh,
52:52
I
52:52
bet
52:52
you
52:53
we
52:53
could.
52:53
Or
52:53
a
52:53
student.
52:54
Just
52:54
a
52:54
student.
52:55
Bob
52:55
Johnson,
52:56
Santa
52:57
Barbara.
52:57
I
52:57
wasn't
52:58
at
52:58
the
52:58
game,
52:58
but
52:59
he.
53:00
Just
53:00
uses
53:00
it
53:00
as
53:00
a
53:00
plug
53:01
for
53:01
his
53:01
business.
53:01
Yes,
53:02
exactly.
53:03
Hey,
53:03
we're
53:04
game.
53:04
If
53:04
Bob
53:04
Johnson
53:05
wants
53:05
to
53:05
come
53:05
on,
53:05
we'll
53:06
let
53:06
him
53:06
plug
53:06
the
53:06
business.
53:06
Bob
53:07
Johnson,
53:07
Insurance.
53:07
Yes.
53:08
Maybe
53:09
we'll
53:09
buy
53:09
some
53:09
insurance.
53:10
Advanced
53:10
refrigeration.
53:11
Yeah.
53:13
So
53:13
looking
53:14
here,
53:14
actually,
53:14
that
53:14
run
53:15
was
53:15
18
53:15
0.
53:16
Oh.
53:16
They
53:17
ran
53:17
on
53:17
an
53:17
18
53:17
point
53:18
run
53:18
in
53:18
the
53:18
early,
53:19
early
53:19
in
53:19
the
53:20
second
53:20
half.
53:21
So.
53:21
And
53:21
it
53:22
was
53:22
again
53:22
just
53:23
kind
53:23
of
53:23
all
53:23
driven
53:23
by
53:24
defense.
53:25
Duke
53:25
had
53:25
turnovers
53:26
on
53:26
six
53:27
consecutive
53:28
possessions
53:28
during
53:29
that
53:29
run.
53:29
Like
53:30
they
53:30
didn't
53:30
even
53:30
get
53:30
down
53:31
there
53:31
and
53:31
get
53:31
a
53:31
shot
53:31
off.
53:32
Six
53:32
trips
53:33
in
53:33
a
53:33
row.
53:34
They
53:34
took
53:34
it
53:34
away,
53:34
I'm
53:35
telling
53:35
you
53:35
back.
53:36
They
53:36
had
53:36
to
53:36
put
53:37
their
53:37
starting
53:37
point
53:37
guard
53:38
back
53:38
in
53:38
the
53:38
game.
53:39
Yeah.
53:39
After
53:39
15
53:40
minutes
53:40
because
53:40
they
53:41
couldn't
53:41
get
53:41
past
53:41
the
53:41
Timeline.
53:42
Yes.
53:43
It
53:43
was
53:43
incredible.
53:44
Yeah.
53:46
The.
53:46
So
53:46
again
53:47
from
53:48
the
53:48
game,
53:49
it's
53:49
much
53:49
more
53:50
a
53:50
spectacle
53:50
just
53:51
for
53:51
the
53:51
pure
53:51
athleticism
53:52
and
53:52
dominance
53:53
of
53:53
this
53:54
team.
53:54
And
53:55
I
53:55
think
53:55
one
53:56
of
53:56
the
53:56
things,
53:56
too,
53:56
that
53:56
I
53:56
thought
53:57
was
53:57
a
53:57
lot
53:57
of
53:57
fun
53:57
was
53:58
watching
53:58
Tark
53:59
throughout
53:59
this.
54:00
Not
54:01
being
54:01
someone
54:01
that's
54:01
gone
54:02
back
54:02
and
54:02
watched
54:02
a
54:02
ton
54:03
of
54:03
UNLV
54:04
highlights
54:04
or,
54:05
hey,
54:06
rewatched
54:07
games.
54:07
I
54:08
just
54:08
noticed,
54:08
too,
54:08
YouTube's
54:09
moved
54:09
us
54:09
to
54:09
another
54:10
game.
54:10
I've
54:10
been
54:10
like.
54:11
I
54:11
was
54:11
about
54:11
to
54:11
be
54:11
like,
54:11
Sugar
54:12
Ray
54:12
was
54:12
at
54:12
the
54:13
game.
54:13
They're
54:13
playing
54:14
loyal,
54:14
loyal
54:15
La
54:15
Meram
54:15
out
54:15
at
54:16
home.
54:16
Yeah.
54:17
I
54:17
think
54:17
this
54:17
was
54:18
the
54:18
first
54:18
game
54:18
of
54:19
that
54:19
season.
54:19
Yeah.
54:20
Yeah.
54:21
Because
54:21
Stars,
54:23
you
54:23
think.
54:23
You
54:24
think
54:24
Sugar
54:25
Ray
54:25
had
54:25
a
54:25
fight
54:25
the
54:26
night
54:26
before?
54:26
Maybe
54:27
in
54:27
Vegas?
54:27
I
54:27
don't
54:27
know.
54:28
He's
54:28
got
54:28
somewhere
54:28
to
54:28
go,
54:28
though,
54:28
because
54:29
he
54:29
just
54:29
left
54:29
in
54:29
the
54:29
middle
54:30
of
54:30
the
54:30
game.
54:30
Maybe
54:31
he's
54:31
going
54:31
to
54:32
a
54:32
fight.
54:34
I
54:34
don't
54:34
know.
54:34
This
54:34
was
54:35
the
54:35
preseason
54:35
nit.
54:36
Yeah.
54:37
Which
54:37
they
54:38
lost
54:38
in
54:39
the
54:39
semis
54:39
to
54:39
Kansas
54:40
that
54:40
year.
54:40
Oh,
54:40
gosh.
54:42
Well,
54:44
let's
54:44
see.
54:44
I
54:44
mean,
54:44
again,
54:45
just
54:45
absolute
54:46
annihilation
54:46
in
54:47
terms
54:47
of
54:47
the
54:47
game.
54:47
After
54:48
the
54:48
game,
54:48
Coach
54:49
K
54:49
says
54:50
they
54:50
were
54:51
just
54:51
an
54:51
Avalanche.
54:52
And
54:52
that
54:52
kind
54:53
of.
54:53
That
54:53
word
54:54
stuck
54:54
to
54:54
it
54:54
for
54:54
a
54:55
little
54:55
bit.
54:55
Kind
54:55
of
54:56
just
54:56
that
54:56
the
54:56
avalanche
54:57
that
54:57
the
54:57
UNLV
54:59
was
54:59
in
55:00
terms
55:00
of
55:01
their
55:01
ability
55:01
to
55:02
just
55:03
go
55:03
on
55:03
runs
55:04
driven
55:04
by
55:05
their
55:05
defense,
55:06
and
55:06
just
55:06
in
55:06
the
55:07
meantime,
55:07
ripping
55:08
the
55:08
souls
55:08
out
55:09
of
55:09
the
55:09
hearts
55:09
of
55:09
their
55:09
opponents.
55:10
Because
55:10
Tark
55:10
was
55:11
right.
55:11
They
55:11
were
55:11
hungry.
55:12
They
55:12
were
55:12
hungry.
55:13
That's
55:13
why
55:13
they're
55:13
throwing
55:14
tortillas
55:14
in
55:15
Santa
55:15
Barbara.
55:16
That's
55:16
why
55:16
they're
55:16
throwing
55:17
them.
55:18
Quick,
55:18
quick
55:19
side
55:19
note.
55:20
They.
55:20
They
55:20
beat
55:21
Santa
55:21
Barbara
55:22
by
55:22
two
55:22
at
55:23
Vegas.
55:24
Okay.
55:25
During
55:25
the
55:25
regular
55:25
season.
55:26
So
55:26
that
55:26
must
55:26
have
55:26
just
55:27
been
55:27
a
55:27
tough
55:27
matchup
55:28
for
55:28
them.
55:28
Yeah,
55:28
maybe
55:29
they
55:29
should.
55:29
That
55:29
should
55:30
have
55:30
been
55:30
the
55:30
championship.
55:30
They
55:31
had
55:31
a
55:31
Larry
55:31
Johnson,
55:32
you
55:32
know,
55:32
shut
55:33
down
55:33
guy,
55:33
maybe.
55:33
And
55:34
now
55:34
I'm
55:34
fascinated
55:35
by
55:35
the
55:35
89,
55:35
90
55:36
Santa
55:36
Barbara
55:36
banana
55:37
Slugs.
55:38
Let's
55:38
go
55:38
look
55:38
into
55:38
this.
55:39
So
55:40
overall,
55:41
yeah,
55:41
I
55:41
mean,
55:42
that
55:42
is
55:42
pretty
55:42
impressive.
55:43
Pretty
55:43
impressive
55:45
a
55:45
lot
55:45
from
55:45
this
55:46
game,
55:46
too.
55:46
Afterwards,
55:47
there
55:47
was
55:48
a
55:48
lot
55:48
of
55:48
talk
55:48
from
55:49
coaches
55:49
and
55:50
players
55:50
just
55:51
as
55:51
far
55:51
as
55:52
the
55:52
previous
55:52
teams
55:53
to
55:53
this.
55:53
That
55:54
had
55:54
had
55:54
some
55:54
success.
55:54
Success.
55:55
But
55:55
hadn't
55:55
realized
55:56
this.
55:56
Ultimate
55:56
success.
55:57
I
55:57
thought
55:57
that.
55:57
I
55:58
always
55:58
love
55:58
hearing
55:58
that
55:59
when
55:59
they're
55:59
kind
55:59
of
55:59
like,
56:00
this
56:00
isn't
56:01
just
56:01
about
56:01
us.
56:01
This
56:02
is
56:02
about
56:02
the
56:02
program
56:03
and
56:03
about,
56:03
you
56:03
know,
56:04
everything.
56:04
All
56:04
the
56:04
guys
56:05
that
56:05
came
56:05
before
56:05
us
56:06
to
56:06
put
56:06
UNLV
56:07
on
56:07
the
56:07
map.
56:09
L.J.
56:11
64.3%
56:12
from
56:13
the
56:13
field.
56:13
It's
56:14
one
56:14
of
56:14
the
56:14
most
56:14
efficient
56:15
Marks
56:15
for
56:15
a
56:16
high
56:16
volume
56:16
score
56:17
in
56:17
tournament
56:17
history.
56:18
They
56:19
still
56:19
own
56:20
the
56:20
record
56:20
for
56:22
the
56:22
largest
56:22
point
56:23
or
56:23
the
56:23
largest
56:24
margin
56:25
of
56:26
defeat
56:27
in
56:27
a
56:27
game
56:27
with
56:28
30
56:28
points
56:28
in
56:29
a
56:29
championship
56:29
game.
56:30
In
56:30
the
56:30
final
56:30
game,
56:31
as
56:31
well
56:32
as
56:32
I
56:32
believe
56:32
the
56:32
103
56:33
points
56:33
still
56:34
stand.
56:34
They're
56:34
the
56:35
only
56:36
championship
56:36
team
56:36
to
56:37
score
56:37
a
56:37
hundred
56:37
points
56:38
like
56:39
that.
56:39
That
56:39
part's
56:40
kind
56:40
of
56:40
shocking.
56:41
Yeah.
56:41
The
56:42
30
56:42
wasn't
56:42
as
56:43
shocking
56:44
just
56:44
because
56:44
I
56:44
feel
56:45
like
56:45
I
56:45
can.
56:45
I
56:45
don't
56:46
remember
56:46
anything
56:46
else
56:47
close
56:47
to
56:47
this.
56:48
There
56:48
was
56:48
a
56:48
UCLA
56:49
team,
56:49
team
56:49
I
56:49
think
56:49
that
56:49
got.
56:50
That
56:51
scored
56:51
like
56:51
94,
56:52
96
56:52
during
56:52
the
56:52
wooden
56:53
days
56:53
in
56:53
the
56:53
championship
56:54
game.
56:54
That
56:54
was
56:54
the
56:54
closest
56:55
that
56:55
we've
56:55
had.
56:56
Did
56:56
they.
56:56
Was
56:57
that
56:57
game
56:57
against
56:57
UC
56:58
Santa
56:58
Barbara.
56:59
I
56:59
think
56:59
it
56:59
might
57:00
have
57:00
been.
57:00
I've
57:01
got
57:01
good
57:01
news,
57:01
Scott.
57:02
I
57:03
found
57:03
one
57:03
of
57:04
the
57:04
UC
57:04
Santa
57:05
Barbara
57:05
games.
57:05
Oh,
57:05
my
57:05
God.
57:07
Yes.
57:07
They
57:07
were
57:08
led
57:08
by
57:08
somebody
57:08
named
57:09
Gary
57:09
Gray.
57:10
Oh,
57:10
I
57:10
bet
57:11
Gary
57:11
could
57:11
do
57:11
it.
57:12
Exactly
57:12
like
57:12
you
57:12
think
57:13
he
57:13
would
57:13
for
57:14
UC
57:14
Santa
57:14
Barbara.
57:15
I
57:15
don't
57:15
even
57:16
know
57:16
what
57:16
I'm
57:16
picturing
57:16
for
57:17
Gary
57:17
Gray.
57:17
Gary
57:18
Gray
57:18
is
57:18
definitely
57:19
in
57:19
Santa
57:20
Barbara
57:20
selling
57:21
some
57:21
insurance.
57:21
Right.
57:21
I
57:22
know
57:22
too
57:22
many
57:22
Gary's
57:23
that
57:23
are
57:23
influencing
57:24
it
57:24
right
57:24
now.
57:24
Yeah,
57:24
that's
57:25
true
57:25
too.
57:25
Well,
57:25
here's
57:26
the
57:26
thing.
57:26
And
57:26
I'm
57:26
blending
57:27
two
57:28
or
57:28
three
57:28
of
57:28
them
57:28
in
57:29
my
57:29
head
57:29
together.
57:29
And
57:29
I
57:30
bet
57:30
that's
57:30
not.
57:30
There's
57:31
a
57:31
director,
57:31
F.
57:32
Gary
57:32
Gray.
57:32
Yeah.
57:33
Which
57:33
is
57:33
odd
57:34
because
57:34
it's
57:34
the
57:34
initial
57:35
before
57:35
the
57:35
name.
57:36
It's
57:36
awesome
57:36
because
57:37
it's
57:37
F
57:37
too.
57:38
I.
57:38
But
57:39
always
57:39
thought
57:40
I
57:40
would
57:40
do
57:40
that.
57:40
He
57:41
has
57:41
directed
57:42
some
57:42
bangers
57:43
along
57:43
the
57:43
way,
57:43
but
57:44
Gary
57:44
Gray
57:45
is
57:46
F.
57:46
Gary
57:46
Gray
57:47
is.
57:47
Is
57:47
black.
57:48
Most
57:48
notably.
57:49
Which
57:49
one
57:49
did
57:50
he
57:50
direct?
57:50
Give
57:50
me
57:51
one
57:51
because
57:51
I
57:51
know.
57:51
I
57:52
know
57:52
something.
57:52
He.
57:53
He
57:53
directed
57:54
the
57:54
Italian
57:55
Job.
57:56
He
57:57
directed.
57:59
Oh,
57:59
gosh.
57:59
Gosh.
58:00
We're
58:00
gonna
58:00
turn
58:00
this
58:01
into
58:01
a
58:01
movie
58:01
podcast.
58:03
He's
58:03
gonna
58:03
turn
58:03
into
58:04
more
58:04
about
58:04
F.
58:04
Gary
58:04
Gray.
58:05
I'm
58:05
sorry,
58:05
I'm
58:05
probably
58:06
not
58:06
thinking
58:06
of
58:06
the
58:06
same
58:07
guy
58:07
then.
58:08
He
58:08
directed
58:09
the
58:10
Negotiator
58:10
Straight
58:11
out
58:11
of
58:11
Compton.
58:12
Ah.
58:12
That's
58:12
what.
58:12
Okay.
58:13
Set
58:13
it
58:13
off.
58:14
Was
58:14
his.
58:14
Was
58:14
his
58:15
big.
58:16
Yeah,
58:17
we're
58:17
moving
58:17
on
58:18
Straight
58:18
out
58:18
of
58:18
Compton,
58:19
which
58:19
didn't
58:20
deliver
58:20
that
58:20
well.
58:21
Not
58:21
his
58:21
best
58:22
work
58:22
or
58:22
what?
58:22
Did
58:22
you
58:23
love
58:23
that
58:23
movie?
58:23
I
58:24
thought
58:24
it
58:24
was
58:24
very
58:24
enjoyable.
58:25
Okay,
58:25
well,
58:25
sorry
58:26
puts
58:26
me.
58:27
Sorry.
58:27
Easy
58:27
E.
58:28
Sorry.
58:28
Duke
58:29
fan.
58:29
Sorry.
58:30
That
58:30
you
58:30
didn't
58:30
like
58:31
the
58:31
NWA
58:32
movie.
58:32
Right.
58:33
Sorry.
58:35
You
58:35
are.
58:36
Maybe
58:36
you
58:36
would
58:37
enjoy
58:37
NCAA
58:38
executive
58:39
committee
58:39
member
58:40
maybe.
58:40
Yeah,
58:40
exactly.
58:41
Dang
58:42
it.
58:42
I'm
58:42
going
58:42
to
58:43
be
58:43
in
58:43
that
58:43
bucket
58:43
forever
58:44
now.
58:45
All
58:46
right,
58:46
so
58:47
I
58:47
thought
58:47
the
58:47
other.
58:48
Go
58:48
ahead.
58:48
Do
58:48
you
58:48
have
58:48
any
58:49
more.
58:49
Well,
58:49
I
58:49
Wanted
58:50
to
58:50
say
58:51
if
58:51
I
58:51
can
58:51
make
58:51
a
58:52
comparison.
58:52
Yes.
58:53
With
58:53
what
58:54
we've
58:54
got
58:54
going
58:54
on
58:55
right
58:55
now
58:55
with
58:55
Indiana
58:56
football.
58:57
Who
58:57
before
58:57
the
58:57
season
58:59
was.
58:59
Had
59:00
the
59:00
most
59:01
losses
59:01
in
59:02
FBS
59:03
history
59:03
amongst
59:04
the
59:04
schools
59:04
in
59:04
fbs.
59:05
The
59:05
most
59:06
losses
59:06
before
59:07
the
59:07
year.
59:07
Gosh.
59:08
They
59:08
were
59:08
though.
59:08
They
59:09
were
59:09
the
59:10
first
59:10
all
59:11
time
59:11
team
59:12
heading
59:12
into
59:12
this,
59:13
not
59:13
just
59:13
in
59:13
their
59:14
conference
59:14
season.
59:15
You're
59:15
saying
59:16
in
59:16
all
59:16
of
59:16
college
59:17
basketball,
59:17
D1
59:18
college.
59:18
Northwestern
59:19
and
59:19
Indiana
59:19
were
59:19
like
59:20
1
59:20
and
59:20
2
59:20
and
59:20
Northwestern
59:21
clipped
59:22
them
59:22
because
59:22
of
59:22
their
59:23
successful
59:23
season
59:23
just
59:24
because
59:24
they're
59:24
in.
59:24
The
59:24
Big
59:24
Ten,
59:25
I
59:25
guess,
59:25
but
59:25
that.
59:26
I
59:26
don't
59:26
feel
59:27
like
59:27
people
59:27
are
59:28
truly
59:28
appreciating
59:29
this
59:29
Indiana
59:30
football
59:30
story
59:31
because
59:32
it
59:32
is
59:33
remarkable
59:34
that
59:34
they
59:34
are.
59:35
I
59:35
mean
59:35
this
59:35
is,
59:37
you
59:37
know,
59:38
who's
59:38
the
59:38
worst
59:39
basketball
59:39
team?
59:40
The,
59:40
you
59:41
know
59:41
like
59:41
80
59:42
sterling
59:42
clippers.
59:43
Yeah,
59:44
yeah.
59:44
Or
59:44
the
59:44
Sacramento
59:45
Kings.
59:46
Like
59:46
this
59:47
is
59:47
just
59:47
like.
59:48
It's
59:49
incredible
59:50
how
59:50
they
59:50
and
59:51
UNLV
59:52
had
59:52
had
59:52
success,
59:53
don't
59:53
get
59:53
me
59:53
wrong.
59:53
But
59:54
they
59:54
were
59:54
a
59:54
West
59:54
coast
59:54
conference
59:55
team.
59:56
They
59:56
are
59:56
not
59:57
getting.
59:58
Not
59:58
in
59:58
the
59:58
picture.
59:58
They
59:58
are
59:59
not
59:59
getting.
59:59
You
1:00:00
know,
1:00:00
Danny
1:00:00
Manning
1:00:01
is
1:00:01
not
1:00:01
going
1:00:01
to
1:00:01
unlv.
1:00:02
You
1:00:03
know,
1:00:03
the.
1:00:03
Whoever
1:00:03
the
1:00:04
top
1:00:04
dog
1:00:05
is
1:00:05
each
1:00:05
year
1:00:06
to
1:00:06
come
1:00:06
out.
1:00:07
UNLV
1:00:07
is
1:00:07
not
1:00:08
in
1:00:08
the
1:00:08
conversation.
1:00:08
And
1:00:08
they
1:00:09
put
1:00:09
together
1:00:09
a
1:00:09
team.
1:00:10
No
1:00:10
Sam
1:00:10
Bowie
1:00:11
for
1:00:11
you.
1:00:11
No
1:00:11
Sam
1:00:12
Buoy
1:00:12
for
1:00:12
you,
1:00:12
sir.
1:00:13
And
1:00:13
they're
1:00:14
putting
1:00:14
together
1:00:14
a
1:00:14
team
1:00:15
that
1:00:15
is,
1:00:15
you
1:00:16
know,
1:00:16
arguably,
1:00:17
you
1:00:17
know,
1:00:18
at
1:00:18
some
1:00:18
point
1:00:19
we'll
1:00:19
revisit
1:00:20
the
1:00:21
following
1:00:21
year's
1:00:21
UNLV
1:00:22
team.
1:00:22
They
1:00:23
were
1:00:23
better
1:00:23
than
1:00:24
this
1:00:24
team.
1:00:24
But
1:00:24
this
1:00:25
team
1:00:25
is
1:00:25
arguably,
1:00:26
you
1:00:26
know,
1:00:27
one
1:00:27
of
1:00:27
the
1:00:28
greatest
1:00:28
college
1:00:29
basketball
1:00:29
teams
1:00:29
ever
1:00:29
put
1:00:30
together.
1:00:30
Yeah,
1:00:30
no
1:00:30
doubt,
1:00:31
no
1:00:31
doubt.
1:00:31
It's
1:00:31
definitely
1:00:32
in
1:00:32
the
1:00:32
conversation.
1:00:32
Yeah,
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
would,
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
would
1:00:33
agree.
1:00:34
And,
1:00:34
and
1:00:34
really
1:00:35
like
1:00:35
then
1:00:36
kind
1:00:36
of
1:00:36
launching
1:00:36
from
1:00:37
this
1:00:37
game,
1:00:39
you
1:00:39
know,
1:00:39
all
1:00:39
the
1:00:39
heat
1:00:40
ramps
1:00:40
up
1:00:40
even
1:00:40
more
1:00:41
on
1:00:41
UNLV
1:00:42
now.
1:00:42
Everything
1:00:42
that
1:00:43
was,
1:00:43
all
1:00:44
the
1:00:44
eyes
1:00:44
that
1:00:44
were
1:00:44
on
1:00:45
them
1:00:45
from
1:00:45
the
1:00:45
NCAA
1:00:46
and
1:00:47
maybe
1:00:47
even
1:00:47
from
1:00:47
media,
1:00:48
it
1:00:49
was
1:00:49
10x
1:00:50
that
1:00:50
now
1:00:50
and
1:00:51
looking
1:00:51
for
1:00:51
problems
1:00:52
and,
1:00:53
and
1:00:53
kind
1:00:54
of
1:00:54
as
1:00:54
they
1:00:54
got
1:00:54
out
1:00:54
of
1:00:55
this
1:00:55
game
1:00:55
that
1:00:55
was
1:00:56
very
1:00:56
evident
1:00:57
that
1:00:57
they
1:00:57
were
1:00:58
going
1:00:58
to
1:00:58
be
1:00:59
pinpointed
1:01:00
to
1:01:00
some
1:01:01
degree
1:01:01
as,
1:01:02
you
1:01:02
know,
1:01:03
a
1:01:03
troubled
1:01:03
program
1:01:03
or
1:01:04
a
1:01:04
program
1:01:04
not
1:01:05
doing
1:01:05
it
1:01:05
correctly.
1:01:05
And
1:01:05
that,
1:01:06
that
1:01:06
definitely
1:01:06
hits
1:01:07
them
1:01:07
for
1:01:07
sure.
1:01:07
Yeah.
1:01:08
And
1:01:08
it's
1:01:08
just
1:01:09
steeped
1:01:09
in
1:01:09
racism.
1:01:10
Like
1:01:10
I
1:01:10
was
1:01:11
reading
1:01:11
this
1:01:11
quote
1:01:11
to
1:01:12
you.
1:01:12
I'm
1:01:12
going
1:01:12
to
1:01:12
read
1:01:12
it
1:01:12
now.
1:01:13
So
1:01:13
the
1:01:13
guy
1:01:14
who
1:01:14
really
1:01:14
hated
1:01:15
Tark
1:01:17
from
1:01:18
the
1:01:19
ncaa,
1:01:19
his
1:01:20
name
1:01:20
was
1:01:20
Walter
1:01:21
Byers,
1:01:21
he
1:01:21
was
1:01:22
the
1:01:22
NCAA
1:01:22
executive
1:01:22
director.
1:01:23
One
1:01:23
of
1:01:23
those
1:01:23
buyers
1:01:24
police.
1:01:24
This
1:01:24
is
1:01:25
a
1:01:25
quote
1:01:25
that
1:01:25
he
1:01:25
gave
1:01:26
to
1:01:26
the
1:01:26
media
1:01:27
about
1:01:27
this
1:01:27
1999,
1:01:28
89,
1:01:29
90.
1:01:29
UNLV
1:01:30
say
1:01:31
quote
1:01:31
several
1:01:31
times
1:01:32
I'm
1:01:32
going.
1:01:32
To
1:01:32
say,
1:01:33
quote,
1:01:34
maybe
1:01:34
do
1:01:34
it
1:01:34
in
1:01:34
a
1:01:34
different
1:01:35
voice.
1:01:35
I
1:01:35
don't
1:01:35
know.
1:01:35
He
1:01:36
hated
1:01:36
this
1:01:36
team,
1:01:36
and
1:01:37
this
1:01:37
is
1:01:37
why
1:01:37
he
1:01:37
hated
1:01:38
this
1:01:38
team.
1:01:38
Scott.
1:01:39
Yeah.
1:01:39
He
1:01:39
said,
1:01:39
and
1:01:40
I
1:01:40
quote,
1:01:41
tark's
1:01:41
black
1:01:42
players
1:01:42
play
1:01:42
a
1:01:43
fast
1:01:43
city
1:01:43
lot
1:01:44
basketball.
1:01:45
They
1:01:46
play
1:01:46
a
1:01:46
fast
1:01:46
city
1:01:47
lot
1:01:47
basketball
1:01:48
without
1:01:48
much
1:01:48
style.
1:01:49
Grab
1:01:49
ball
1:01:50
and
1:01:50
run
1:01:50
like
1:01:50
hell.
1:01:51
Not
1:01:51
lots
1:01:51
of
1:01:51
passing
1:01:52
to
1:01:52
set
1:01:52
up
1:01:52
the
1:01:52
shots.
1:01:53
He
1:01:54
later
1:01:54
described
1:01:55
UNLV
1:01:55
style
1:01:56
as,
1:01:56
quote,
1:01:57
ghetto
1:01:57
run
1:01:58
and
1:01:58
shoot
1:01:58
basketball,
1:01:59
end
1:01:59
quote.
1:02:00
With
1:02:00
little
1:02:01
concern
1:02:01
for
1:02:01
defense,
1:02:02
which
1:02:02
is
1:02:02
ridiculous.
1:02:03
Has
1:02:03
he
1:02:04
watched
1:02:04
their
1:02:04
defense?
1:02:05
Incredible
1:02:05
defensive
1:02:06
teams.
1:02:06
He
1:02:06
watched
1:02:06
the
1:02:07
defense.
1:02:07
His
1:02:08
quotes
1:02:09
probably
1:02:09
came
1:02:09
back
1:02:10
to
1:02:10
bite
1:02:10
him
1:02:10
because,
1:02:11
you
1:02:11
know,
1:02:11
Tark
1:02:12
leaves
1:02:12
and
1:02:12
goes
1:02:12
coach
1:02:13
the
1:02:13
spurs
1:02:13
and
1:02:14
then
1:02:14
there's
1:02:14
still
1:02:15
ncaa.
1:02:16
So
1:02:16
basically
1:02:16
he
1:02:17
sues
1:02:17
the
1:02:17
NCAA
1:02:18
for
1:02:18
harassment.
1:02:18
Yeah.
1:02:18
And
1:02:19
they
1:02:19
settle
1:02:19
for
1:02:19
2.5
1:02:20
million.
1:02:20
Yes.
1:02:21
So
1:02:21
there
1:02:21
was
1:02:21
something
1:02:22
somewhere.
1:02:23
Yeah,
1:02:23
you're
1:02:23
not
1:02:23
getting
1:02:24
2.5
1:02:24
million
1:02:25
listers
1:02:25
of
1:02:25
paper
1:02:26
trail.
1:02:26
Exactly.
1:02:27
And
1:02:27
I'm
1:02:27
sure
1:02:27
Walter
1:02:28
Byers
1:02:28
quotes
1:02:29
didn't
1:02:29
help.
1:02:29
He
1:02:30
was
1:02:30
the
1:02:30
one
1:02:30
that
1:02:30
created
1:02:31
the
1:02:31
trail
1:02:32
just
1:02:32
with
1:02:32
that.
1:02:32
Just
1:02:33
with
1:02:33
that.
1:02:33
Yeah,
1:02:34
but
1:02:34
can
1:02:35
you
1:02:35
imagine
1:02:36
if
1:02:37
somebody
1:02:37
in
1:02:37
the
1:02:38
NCAA
1:02:38
came
1:02:38
out
1:02:39
and.
1:02:39
And
1:02:40
said
1:02:40
that
1:02:40
out
1:02:41
loud?
1:02:41
Oh,
1:02:41
my
1:02:41
gosh.
1:02:42
You
1:02:42
imagine
1:02:42
the
1:02:43
firestorm
1:02:43
that
1:02:43
there
1:02:44
would
1:02:44
be.
1:02:44
Well,
1:02:44
and
1:02:44
it's
1:02:45
also
1:02:45
a
1:02:45
little
1:02:45
crazy
1:02:46
because
1:02:46
it's
1:02:46
1990.
1:02:48
Right?
1:02:48
Man,
1:02:49
I
1:02:49
don't
1:02:49
know,
1:02:49
dude.
1:02:50
I
1:02:50
mean,
1:02:50
I
1:02:50
feel
1:02:50
like
1:02:51
we
1:02:51
should
1:02:51
have
1:02:51
been
1:02:51
beyond
1:02:52
this.
1:02:54
That
1:02:54
kind
1:02:54
of
1:02:54
quote
1:02:55
being
1:02:55
said,
1:02:56
making.
1:02:56
Me
1:02:56
want
1:02:56
to
1:02:56
talk
1:02:57
about
1:02:57
O.J.
1:02:57
right
1:02:57
now.
1:02:58
Yeah.
1:02:59
Okay.
1:03:00
I
1:03:00
get
1:03:00
it
1:03:01
just
1:03:01
in
1:03:02
my
1:03:02
head,
1:03:03
you
1:03:03
know
1:03:03
what
1:03:03
I
1:03:03
mean?
1:03:03
I
1:03:04
want
1:03:04
it
1:03:04
to
1:03:04
be
1:03:04
better
1:03:05
in.
1:03:05
The
1:03:05
90s,
1:03:06
you
1:03:06
know,
1:03:06
like
1:03:07
Nightline.
1:03:08
Al
1:03:09
Camparis
1:03:09
talking
1:03:10
about,
1:03:11
you
1:03:11
know,
1:03:11
I
1:03:11
mean,
1:03:11
he
1:03:11
ruined
1:03:12
his
1:03:12
career,
1:03:13
ruined
1:03:13
his
1:03:13
life
1:03:14
basically
1:03:15
in
1:03:15
an
1:03:15
episode
1:03:16
of
1:03:16
Not
1:03:16
Line
1:03:16
because
1:03:16
he
1:03:17
talked
1:03:17
about
1:03:19
black.
1:03:19
Black
1:03:20
men
1:03:20
could
1:03:20
not
1:03:20
be
1:03:20
GMs
1:03:21
for
1:03:21
a
1:03:22
variety.
1:03:22
Do
1:03:22
you
1:03:22
remember
1:03:22
that
1:03:23
at
1:03:23
all?
1:03:23
No,
1:03:23
no,
1:03:24
that
1:03:24
was.
1:03:25
And
1:03:25
what
1:03:25
year
1:03:25
was
1:03:26
that?
1:03:26
I
1:03:26
think
1:03:27
it
1:03:27
was
1:03:27
like
1:03:27
88
1:03:27
or
1:03:27
89.
1:03:28
Okay,
1:03:29
that's.
1:03:30
You
1:03:30
want
1:03:30
to
1:03:30
talk
1:03:30
about
1:03:30
jarring.
1:03:31
Yeah,
1:03:31
that
1:03:32
is
1:03:32
jarring
1:03:32
because
1:03:32
he
1:03:33
is
1:03:33
on
1:03:33
national
1:03:33
television
1:03:34
basically
1:03:35
saying
1:03:35
that
1:03:35
black
1:03:36
men
1:03:36
do
1:03:36
not
1:03:36
have
1:03:37
the
1:03:38
mental
1:03:38
wherewithal
1:03:39
to
1:03:39
be
1:03:39
GMs
1:03:40
and
1:03:40
managers
1:03:41
in
1:03:41
Major
1:03:41
League
1:03:41
Baseball.
1:03:42
Yeah,
1:03:43
that
1:03:43
was
1:03:43
a
1:03:43
firestorm.
1:03:44
Unbelievable.
1:03:46
Yeah.
1:03:46
We
1:03:46
could
1:03:46
spin
1:03:47
off
1:03:47
on
1:03:47
a
1:03:47
whole.
1:03:47
Different
1:03:47
tangent
1:03:48
here,
1:03:48
but
1:03:48
I
1:03:49
do
1:03:49
think
1:03:49
it's.
1:03:50
It's
1:03:50
an
1:03:50
important
1:03:51
part
1:03:51
of
1:03:51
the
1:03:51
story.
1:03:51
Because
1:03:52
it
1:03:52
definitely
1:03:52
is.
1:03:54
Obviously
1:03:55
they
1:03:55
had
1:03:55
a
1:03:56
body
1:03:57
that
1:03:57
was
1:03:57
in
1:03:57
charge
1:03:58
of
1:03:58
them,
1:03:59
who
1:03:59
hated
1:04:00
the
1:04:00
fact
1:04:01
that
1:04:01
it
1:04:01
was
1:04:01
a
1:04:02
team
1:04:02
that
1:04:02
played
1:04:03
a
1:04:03
loose
1:04:03
style
1:04:03
of
1:04:03
basketball,
1:04:04
completely
1:04:05
led
1:04:05
by
1:04:05
black
1:04:06
basketball.
1:04:06
Yes,
1:04:07
exactly.
1:04:08
And
1:04:08
I
1:04:08
mean,
1:04:09
you
1:04:09
add
1:04:09
to
1:04:09
it
1:04:09
kind
1:04:09
of
1:04:10
humiliating.
1:04:10
One
1:04:11
of
1:04:11
the
1:04:11
blue
1:04:11
Blood
1:04:12
teams
1:04:12
right
1:04:12
here
1:04:13
in
1:04:13
this
1:04:13
final
1:04:13
game.
1:04:14
Oh,
1:04:14
for
1:04:14
sure.
1:04:14
I
1:04:15
mean,
1:04:15
you
1:04:15
can
1:04:15
understand
1:04:16
why
1:04:16
it
1:04:16
would
1:04:17
ramp
1:04:17
up
1:04:18
all
1:04:18
of
1:04:18
the.
1:04:19
You
1:04:19
know,
1:04:20
it
1:04:20
led
1:04:20
to
1:04:20
a
1:04:20
band.
1:04:21
They
1:04:21
did
1:04:21
not
1:04:21
want
1:04:22
them
1:04:22
to
1:04:22
win
1:04:22
the
1:04:22
trophy
1:04:23
the
1:04:23
next
1:04:23
year.
1:04:23
Exactly.
1:04:24
And
1:04:24
they.
1:04:24
And
1:04:24
they
1:04:25
did
1:04:25
everything
1:04:26
they
1:04:26
could
1:04:26
to
1:04:26
stop
1:04:26
that
1:04:27
for
1:04:27
sure.
1:04:29
So,
1:04:29
again,
1:04:30
we
1:04:30
won't
1:04:30
get
1:04:31
a
1:04:31
lot
1:04:31
into
1:04:32
that
1:04:32
next
1:04:32
year,
1:04:33
but
1:04:33
the
1:04:33
big
1:04:34
thing
1:04:34
here
1:04:34
is
1:04:34
that
1:04:35
the
1:04:35
major
1:04:35
players
1:04:36
on
1:04:36
this
1:04:36
team
1:04:36
all
1:04:37
come
1:04:37
back.
1:04:38
And
1:04:38
not
1:04:39
that
1:04:39
that
1:04:39
was
1:04:39
that
1:04:39
shocking,
1:04:40
probably
1:04:40
in
1:04:41
1990.
1:04:41
There's
1:04:42
Tark
1:04:42
with
1:04:42
the
1:04:42
towel
1:04:47
and
1:04:48
the.
1:04:48
But
1:04:48
they
1:04:49
all
1:04:49
do
1:04:49
come
1:04:49
back
1:04:49
with
1:04:50
the
1:04:50
idea
1:04:50
of,
1:04:50
let's
1:04:50
run
1:04:51
it.
1:04:51
Let's
1:04:51
run
1:04:51
it
1:04:51
back.
1:04:52
They
1:04:52
damn
1:04:53
near
1:04:54
did.
1:04:54
I
1:04:55
mean,
1:04:55
until
1:04:55
they
1:04:55
ran
1:04:56
straight.
1:04:57
Yeah.
1:04:57
Before
1:04:57
the.
1:04:58
The
1:04:58
Duke
1:04:58
semifinal.
1:04:59
Exactly.
1:04:59
Until
1:05:00
they
1:05:00
record
1:05:00
34.
1:05:01
No.
1:05:01
Yeah.
1:05:02
Dooku.
1:05:03
Like,
1:05:03
as
1:05:03
Coach
1:05:04
K
1:05:04
said,
1:05:05
it
1:05:05
was
1:05:05
almost
1:05:06
like
1:05:06
this
1:05:06
game
1:05:07
created
1:05:07
the
1:05:08
Leitner
1:05:08
and
1:05:08
Hurley
1:05:09
that
1:05:09
we
1:05:09
all
1:05:09
really
1:05:10
remember
1:05:10
and
1:05:10
just
1:05:11
kind
1:05:11
of
1:05:11
really.
1:05:11
The
1:05:12
whole
1:05:12
mindset.
1:05:13
Culture
1:05:13
shifted
1:05:14
for
1:05:14
Duke
1:05:14
after
1:05:15
this
1:05:15
game.
1:05:16
And
1:05:16
then
1:05:16
also
1:05:16
the
1:05:17
introduction
1:05:17
that
1:05:17
was.
1:05:18
That
1:05:18
was
1:05:18
the
1:05:19
Leitner
1:05:19
shot
1:05:19
Kentucky
1:05:20
year.
1:05:20
Yes.
1:05:21
Yeah.
1:05:21
Did
1:05:22
you
1:05:22
see
1:05:22
that
1:05:22
last
1:05:22
night
1:05:23
that
1:05:23
happened
1:05:23
in
1:05:24
the
1:05:24
lsu
1:05:24
Kentucky.
1:05:25
No,
1:05:25
I
1:05:25
did.
1:05:25
Kentucky
1:05:26
did
1:05:26
it
1:05:26
to
1:05:26
lsu.
1:05:27
Oh.
1:05:29
Three
1:05:29
quarter
1:05:30
inbound.
1:05:31
Three
1:05:31
quarter
1:05:31
links
1:05:32
of
1:05:32
the
1:05:32
floor.
1:05:33
Two
1:05:33
seconds
1:05:34
left.
1:05:34
Guy
1:05:35
catches
1:05:35
it
1:05:35
at
1:05:35
the
1:05:35
free
1:05:36
throw
1:05:36
line,
1:05:36
turns
1:05:37
and
1:05:37
shoots
1:05:37
and
1:05:37
scores.
1:05:38
That's.
1:05:38
That's
1:05:38
crazy.
1:05:39
It
1:05:39
was
1:05:39
all
1:05:39
over.
1:05:39
I
1:05:39
have
1:05:39
to
1:05:39
go
1:05:40
look
1:05:40
all
1:05:40
over
1:05:40
the
1:05:40
Twitter.
1:05:41
I
1:05:41
mean,
1:05:41
it
1:05:41
literally.
1:05:42
He
1:05:42
didn't
1:05:42
do
1:05:42
the.
1:05:43
The
1:05:43
shimmy.
1:05:44
Yeah.
1:05:44
The.
1:05:45
The
1:05:45
turnaround,
1:05:46
but
1:05:46
he.
1:05:46
It
1:05:46
was
1:05:46
basically
1:05:47
the
1:05:47
same
1:05:47
play.
1:05:48
How
1:05:48
many
1:05:48
times
1:05:48
did.
1:05:49
Not
1:05:49
to
1:05:49
turn
1:05:50
this
1:05:50
into
1:05:50
a
1:05:50
Duke
1:05:51
podcast,
1:05:52
because
1:05:52
again,
1:05:53
I
1:05:53
almost
1:05:53
feel
1:05:53
like
1:05:54
that
1:05:54
game
1:05:54
alone
1:05:55
could
1:05:55
have
1:05:55
an
1:05:55
episode
1:05:56
as
1:05:56
well.
1:05:56
But
1:05:57
how
1:05:58
many
1:05:58
times
1:05:58
did
1:05:58
you
1:05:58
try
1:05:59
and
1:05:59
reenact
1:05:59
that
1:05:59
in
1:06:00
the.
1:06:00
In
1:06:00
the
1:06:00
driveway?
1:06:01
I
1:06:01
mean,
1:06:03
and
1:06:04
your
1:06:04
mom
1:06:04
was
1:06:04
a.
1:06:04
Coach,
1:06:05
so
1:06:05
you
1:06:05
had
1:06:05
access
1:06:06
to
1:06:06
gyms.
1:06:07
You
1:06:07
probably
1:06:07
had
1:06:08
to
1:06:08
do
1:06:08
it
1:06:08
on
1:06:08
gym
1:06:08
a
1:06:09
lot.
1:06:09
Yeah.
1:06:09
So
1:06:09
for
1:06:09
us,
1:06:10
we
1:06:10
would
1:06:10
do
1:06:10
it
1:06:10
and
1:06:11
at
1:06:11
our
1:06:11
house,
1:06:11
like,
1:06:12
the.
1:06:12
I
1:06:13
don't
1:06:13
know.
1:06:13
We
1:06:13
probably.
1:06:14
The
1:06:14
depth
1:06:14
of
1:06:15
the
1:06:15
court
1:06:15
we
1:06:15
played
1:06:15
on
1:06:16
at
1:06:16
my
1:06:16
house
1:06:16
was
1:06:16
probably
1:06:17
an
1:06:17
NBA
1:06:18
3
1:06:18
or
1:06:19
a
1:06:19
little
1:06:19
further
1:06:19
back.
1:06:19
Okay.
1:06:20
But
1:06:21
then
1:06:21
it
1:06:21
turned
1:06:22
gravel,
1:06:22
and
1:06:22
then
1:06:22
it
1:06:22
turned
1:06:23
grass.
1:06:23
So
1:06:24
we
1:06:24
would
1:06:24
go
1:06:24
all
1:06:24
the
1:06:24
way
1:06:25
out
1:06:25
onto
1:06:25
the
1:06:25
grass
1:06:26
and
1:06:26
practice
1:06:27
throwing
1:06:27
that
1:06:27
back
1:06:27
pass
1:06:28
over
1:06:28
and
1:06:28
over
1:06:29
like
1:06:29
it
1:06:29
was
1:06:30
ever
1:06:30
going
1:06:30
to.
1:06:30
You
1:06:30
know,
1:06:31
I
1:06:31
never
1:06:31
played
1:06:31
organized
1:06:32
basketball
1:06:32
in
1:06:33
my
1:06:33
life,
1:06:33
but
1:06:34
for
1:06:34
some
1:06:34
reason,
1:06:34
I
1:06:35
needed
1:06:35
to
1:06:35
be
1:06:36
prepared
1:06:36
to
1:06:36
be
1:06:36
the
1:06:36
Grant
1:06:37
Hill
1:06:37
in
1:06:37
that
1:06:37
situation.
1:06:38
You
1:06:38
know,
1:06:39
we
1:06:39
can't
1:06:39
all
1:06:39
be
1:06:40
the
1:06:40
Leitner.
1:06:40
Right.
1:06:41
So
1:06:41
if
1:06:41
they
1:06:41
want
1:06:41
me
1:06:41
to
1:06:42
master
1:06:42
the
1:06:42
pass,
1:06:43
I
1:06:43
can
1:06:43
do
1:06:43
that.
1:06:44
I
1:06:44
mean,
1:06:45
everybody
1:06:45
was
1:06:45
doing
1:06:45
it
1:06:46
immediately.
1:06:47
Yeah.
1:06:47
I
1:06:47
think
1:06:48
everybody
1:06:48
ran
1:06:48
outside
1:06:48
and
1:06:49
did
1:06:49
it.
1:06:49
Yes.
1:06:51
Now,
1:06:51
a
1:06:52
lot
1:06:52
of
1:06:52
the
1:06:52
trouble
1:06:52
that
1:06:52
UNLV
1:06:53
ran
1:06:53
into
1:06:55
was
1:06:55
definitely
1:06:56
some
1:06:56
targeting
1:06:57
going
1:06:57
on
1:06:57
there
1:06:57
from
1:06:57
the
1:06:58
NCAA
1:06:58
and
1:06:59
from
1:06:59
the
1:06:59
media.
1:06:59
Both.
1:07:00
And
1:07:00
from
1:07:00
within
1:07:00
their
1:07:01
own
1:07:01
university.
1:07:02
I
1:07:02
even
1:07:02
think
1:07:02
there
1:07:02
were
1:07:03
some.
1:07:04
I
1:07:04
have
1:07:04
a
1:07:04
problem
1:07:05
with
1:07:05
this.
1:07:05
You
1:07:05
know,
1:07:06
And
1:07:06
I
1:07:06
think
1:07:06
when
1:07:06
you
1:07:06
look
1:07:06
back
1:07:07
on
1:07:07
some
1:07:07
of
1:07:07
these
1:07:07
other
1:07:08
schools
1:07:08
that
1:07:08
went
1:07:08
through
1:07:09
issues,
1:07:10
most
1:07:10
notably
1:07:11
maybe
1:07:11
like
1:07:11
SMU
1:07:12
getting
1:07:12
the
1:07:12
death
1:07:13
penalty,
1:07:13
there
1:07:14
was
1:07:14
definitely
1:07:14
heat
1:07:14
from
1:07:15
within
1:07:15
the
1:07:15
school
1:07:15
on
1:07:16
that
1:07:16
one,
1:07:16
too.
1:07:16
Like,
1:07:17
at
1:07:17
some
1:07:17
point,
1:07:17
it's
1:07:17
like
1:07:18
jealousy.
1:07:19
Like,
1:07:19
we're
1:07:19
an
1:07:19
academic
1:07:20
institution.
1:07:20
Institution.
1:07:21
Why
1:07:21
are
1:07:21
more
1:07:22
people
1:07:22
caring
1:07:22
about
1:07:23
our
1:07:23
basketball
1:07:23
team
1:07:24
than
1:07:24
our
1:07:24
history
1:07:24
department
1:07:25
all
1:07:25
of
1:07:25
a
1:07:25
sudden?
1:07:26
But
1:07:27
there's
1:07:27
definitely
1:07:28
that.
1:07:28
But
1:07:28
unlv,
1:07:29
they
1:07:29
didn't
1:07:30
necessarily
1:07:31
help
1:07:32
their
1:07:32
cause
1:07:32
too
1:07:33
much.
1:07:33
One
1:07:34
of
1:07:34
the
1:07:34
things
1:07:34
that
1:07:34
definitely
1:07:35
came
1:07:35
out
1:07:35
after
1:07:36
that
1:07:36
91
1:07:37
season
1:07:37
was
1:07:37
the
1:07:38
picture
1:07:38
of
1:07:38
three
1:07:38
of
1:07:38
the
1:07:39
players
1:07:39
in
1:07:39
a
1:07:39
hot
1:07:39
tub
1:07:40
with
1:07:40
a
1:07:40
man
1:07:40
known
1:07:41
as
1:07:41
the
1:07:41
Fixer,
1:07:42
who
1:07:42
was
1:07:42
basically
1:07:43
a
1:07:43
guy
1:07:43
that,
1:07:44
like,
1:07:44
paid
1:07:45
athletes
1:07:45
to
1:07:45
throw
1:07:46
games.
1:07:46
Yeah.
1:07:46
Like,
1:07:46
to
1:07:46
shave
1:07:47
points.
1:07:47
Which
1:07:48
today.
1:07:48
This
1:07:48
morning.
1:07:49
Did
1:07:49
you
1:07:49
see
1:07:49
that?
1:07:49
I
1:07:50
did
1:07:50
see
1:07:50
that.
1:07:50
Did
1:07:50
you
1:07:50
see
1:07:50
that
1:07:50
one
1:07:51
of
1:07:51
the
1:07:51
schools
1:07:51
was
1:07:51
Abilene
1:07:52
Christian
1:07:52
in
1:07:53
that.
1:07:53
I
1:07:53
did
1:07:53
not.
1:07:54
That's
1:07:54
wild.
1:07:54
That
1:07:54
is
1:07:55
wild.
1:07:55
Yeah.
1:07:56
If
1:07:56
you're
1:07:56
listening
1:07:56
this
1:07:57
three
1:07:57
years
1:07:57
into
1:07:58
the
1:07:58
future,
1:07:59
we
1:07:59
had
1:08:00
20.
1:08:01
Christian
1:08:01
used
1:08:01
to
1:08:01
be
1:08:02
a
1:08:02
college.
1:08:02
No,
1:08:02
I'm
1:08:02
just
1:08:02
kidding.
1:08:04
Until
1:08:04
the
1:08:04
point
1:08:04
shaving
1:08:05
incident
1:08:05
of
1:08:06
2026.
1:08:07
Yeah.
1:08:08
We
1:08:08
had
1:08:09
point
1:08:09
shaving
1:08:10
scandal
1:08:10
come
1:08:11
out
1:08:11
with
1:08:11
20
1:08:11
players
1:08:12
in
1:08:12
15
1:08:12
universities.
1:08:13
Something
1:08:13
like
1:08:13
that.
1:08:14
Yeah.
1:08:14
Across
1:08:14
two
1:08:14
different
1:08:14
seasons,
1:08:15
I
1:08:15
believe.
1:08:15
Believe
1:08:15
they
1:08:16
had
1:08:16
stuff
1:08:17
not
1:08:17
good.
1:08:18
But
1:08:18
nonetheless,
1:08:18
who
1:08:19
knows
1:08:19
if
1:08:19
that's
1:08:20
what
1:08:20
was
1:08:20
going
1:08:20
on.
1:08:21
But
1:08:21
one
1:08:21
could
1:08:22
only
1:08:22
be
1:08:22
led
1:08:22
to
1:08:23
think
1:08:23
that
1:08:23
that's
1:08:24
very
1:08:24
likely
1:08:25
what
1:08:25
Richard
1:08:26
the
1:08:26
Fixer
1:08:27
Perry
1:08:27
was
1:08:27
in
1:08:28
that
1:08:28
hot
1:08:28
tub
1:08:28
to
1:08:29
do.
1:08:29
Are
1:08:29
you
1:08:29
saying
1:08:29
that
1:08:30
Richard
1:08:30
Perry
1:08:30
fixed
1:08:31
the
1:08:31
Santa
1:08:31
Barbara
1:08:31
games?
1:08:32
Ooh.
1:08:33
Well,
1:08:33
that
1:08:33
was
1:08:33
two
1:08:34
years
1:08:34
prior.
1:08:34
It.
1:08:35
Well,
1:08:35
who
1:08:35
knows?
1:08:35
Who
1:08:36
knows
1:08:36
when
1:08:36
they
1:08:36
start
1:08:36
hot
1:08:37
tubbing
1:08:37
with
1:08:37
this
1:08:37
guy?
1:08:38
I
1:08:38
don't
1:08:38
know.
1:08:38
And
1:08:39
also,
1:08:39
it
1:08:39
could
1:08:39
just
1:08:39
be
1:08:40
like,
1:08:40
that's
1:08:40
their
1:08:40
thing.
1:08:40
Hot
1:08:41
tubbing
1:08:41
with
1:08:41
this
1:08:41
guy.
1:08:42
Hot
1:08:42
tub
1:08:43
was
1:08:43
a
1:08:43
big
1:08:43
deal
1:08:43
here
1:08:44
in
1:08:44
Texas.
1:08:44
Remember
1:08:45
who.
1:08:46
There
1:08:46
was
1:08:46
a.
1:08:47
It
1:08:47
was
1:08:47
Dunbar
1:08:48
or
1:08:48
Duncanville.
1:08:49
Had
1:08:49
football
1:08:49
players
1:08:51
that
1:08:51
were
1:08:51
signing
1:08:52
to.
1:08:52
Go
1:08:53
to
1:08:53
Miami
1:08:53
in
1:08:54
my
1:08:54
head.
1:08:54
But
1:08:54
I
1:08:54
do
1:08:54
remember
1:08:55
what
1:08:55
you
1:08:55
remember.
1:08:55
To
1:08:55
go
1:08:56
to
1:08:56
Miami.
1:08:56
Yeah.
1:08:58
To
1:08:59
play
1:08:59
for
1:08:59
the
1:08:59
U.
1:09:00
Yeah.
1:09:01
Well,
1:09:01
that's
1:09:01
a
1:09:01
whole
1:09:02
other
1:09:02
podcast.
1:09:02
For
1:09:03
sure.
1:09:03
For
1:09:03
sure.
1:09:05
So.
1:09:05
And
1:09:06
just
1:09:06
to
1:09:06
kind
1:09:06
of.
1:09:07
Again,
1:09:07
we're
1:09:07
not
1:09:07
gonna.
1:09:08
We're
1:09:08
gonna
1:09:08
essentially
1:09:09
actually
1:09:09
gloss
1:09:09
over
1:09:09
a
1:09:10
lot
1:09:10
of
1:09:10
that
1:09:10
next
1:09:10
season
1:09:10
because
1:09:11
I
1:09:11
do
1:09:11
think
1:09:11
it's
1:09:11
worth
1:09:12
covering
1:09:12
itself
1:09:12
as
1:09:13
we're
1:09:13
definitely
1:09:13
91.
1:09:14
That
1:09:14
Duke
1:09:14
UNLV
1:09:15
game.
1:09:15
Yeah,
1:09:16
91.
1:09:16
But
1:09:17
really
1:09:17
how
1:09:17
quickly
1:09:18
this
1:09:18
comes
1:09:18
to
1:09:19
an
1:09:19
end.
1:09:19
I
1:09:20
mean,
1:09:20
you
1:09:20
know,
1:09:20
because
1:09:20
of
1:09:21
the
1:09:21
heat
1:09:21
from
1:09:21
the
1:09:21
NCAA
1:09:23
and
1:09:24
the
1:09:24
media
1:09:25
is.
1:09:25
Tark's
1:09:26
gone
1:09:26
in
1:09:27
92.
1:09:27
He
1:09:27
resigns
1:09:28
and
1:09:28
it's
1:09:29
kind
1:09:29
of
1:09:29
like
1:09:29
the
1:09:29
end
1:09:30
of
1:09:30
the
1:09:30
era
1:09:30
just
1:09:31
like
1:09:31
that.
1:09:31
I
1:09:31
mean
1:09:31
everyone
1:09:32
goes
1:09:32
on
1:09:33
from
1:09:33
this
1:09:33
team.
1:09:34
You've
1:09:34
got
1:09:35
the
1:09:36
three
1:09:36
key
1:09:36
guys.
1:09:37
Poor
1:09:38
Anderson
1:09:38
Hunt.
1:09:39
But
1:09:39
the
1:09:39
three
1:09:39
key
1:09:40
guys.
1:09:40
Anderson
1:09:41
in
1:09:41
this.
1:09:41
Yeah,
1:09:41
but
1:09:41
what
1:09:42
I
1:09:42
was
1:09:42
going
1:09:42
to
1:09:42
say
1:09:42
is
1:09:42
you
1:09:42
have
1:09:43
those
1:09:43
three
1:09:43
guys
1:09:43
go
1:09:44
in
1:09:44
the
1:09:44
same
1:09:45
draft
1:09:45
in
1:09:45
the
1:09:46
top
1:09:46
11
1:09:46
picks.
1:09:47
All
1:09:47
three.
1:09:48
Second
1:09:48
round
1:09:48
or
1:09:48
late
1:09:48
first.
1:09:49
I
1:09:49
believe
1:09:49
he
1:09:49
was
1:09:49
second
1:09:50
round
1:09:50
Nuggets.
1:09:50
Right.
1:09:51
Or
1:09:51
net
1:09:52
Sounds
1:09:52
right.
1:09:53
In
1:09:53
my
1:09:53
head.
1:09:54
I
1:09:54
was
1:09:54
going
1:09:54
to
1:09:54
say
1:09:54
jazz,
1:09:55
but
1:09:57
like
1:09:57
80s
1:09:58
90s
1:09:58
nuggets
1:09:59
and
1:09:59
jazz
1:09:59
for
1:09:59
some
1:09:59
reason
1:10:00
blend
1:10:00
together
1:10:00
for.
1:10:01
For
1:10:01
me
1:10:01
sometimes.
1:10:01
So
1:10:02
they
1:10:02
all
1:10:02
go
1:10:02
on
1:10:03
to
1:10:03
NBA
1:10:04
careers.
1:10:04
LJ
1:10:05
of
1:10:05
with
1:10:05
the
1:10:06
most
1:10:07
notorious,
1:10:08
I
1:10:08
would
1:10:08
say
1:10:08
of
1:10:08
the
1:10:08
three,
1:10:10
although
1:10:10
they
1:10:11
all
1:10:11
had
1:10:11
very
1:10:13
good.
1:10:14
Hunt
1:10:14
was
1:10:15
undrafted.
1:10:16
Oh
1:10:16
my.
1:10:17
And
1:10:17
remember
1:10:18
he
1:10:18
had
1:10:18
to
1:10:18
play
1:10:18
in
1:10:18
this.
1:10:19
Remember
1:10:19
the
1:10:19
gold
1:10:19
cba?
1:10:20
Yeah.
1:10:20
You
1:10:21
know
1:10:21
Witch
1:10:21
Falls
1:10:22
had
1:10:22
a
1:10:22
CBA
1:10:23
team.
1:10:23
Did
1:10:23
you
1:10:23
remember
1:10:24
that?
1:10:24
No,
1:10:24
that.
1:10:25
No.
1:10:25
We
1:10:25
would
1:10:25
go
1:10:25
right
1:10:26
now
1:10:26
though.
1:10:27
Here's
1:10:27
the
1:10:27
thing.
1:10:27
He
1:10:27
wasn't
1:10:27
even
1:10:28
drafted
1:10:28
in
1:10:28
the
1:10:28
first
1:10:28
round
1:10:28
of
1:10:29
the
1:10:29
CBA
1:10:29
draft.
1:10:29
Drafted
1:10:30
in
1:10:30
the
1:10:30
second
1:10:30
round.
1:10:31
I
1:10:31
think
1:10:31
it's
1:10:31
because
1:10:31
of
1:10:32
his
1:10:32
height.
1:10:32
He
1:10:32
was
1:10:32
listed
1:10:33
at
1:10:33
6:1,
1:10:33
but
1:10:33
I
1:10:33
don't
1:10:34
think
1:10:34
he
1:10:34
was
1:10:34
6:1.
1:10:35
Well,
1:10:36
why
1:10:36
wouldn't
1:10:36
you
1:10:36
list
1:10:37
higher?
1:10:37
You're
1:10:37
saying
1:10:37
he
1:10:37
was
1:10:38
even
1:10:38
shorter
1:10:38
than
1:10:38
6:1?
1:10:40
He
1:10:40
doesn't
1:10:40
look
1:10:40
at
1:10:41
in
1:10:41
these
1:10:41
games.
1:10:42
But
1:10:42
I
1:10:42
mean
1:10:42
he's
1:10:43
on
1:10:43
TV
1:10:43
right
1:10:43
now.
1:10:44
Unless
1:10:44
you
1:10:45
know
1:10:45
he
1:10:45
had
1:10:45
about
1:10:45
three
1:10:46
inches
1:10:46
of
1:10:46
hair.
1:10:47
Yeah.
1:10:47
Coming
1:10:47
straight
1:10:48
up.
1:10:48
Definitely
1:10:49
had
1:10:49
the
1:10:49
kid
1:10:49
and
1:10:49
play
1:10:50
hairdo
1:10:50
there
1:10:50
a
1:10:51
little
1:10:51
bit.
1:10:52
Whichever
1:10:53
that
1:10:53
was,
1:10:53
I
1:10:53
believe
1:10:53
it
1:10:54
was
1:10:54
kid.
1:10:55
I
1:10:56
mean
1:10:56
did
1:10:56
he
1:10:56
even
1:10:56
play
1:10:57
in
1:10:57
the
1:10:57
pros
1:10:58
in
1:10:59
the
1:10:59
NBA?
1:11:00
I
1:11:00
was
1:11:00
gonna
1:11:01
say
1:11:01
no
1:11:01
and
1:11:01
then
1:11:01
you
1:11:01
threw
1:11:01
me
1:11:02
off.
1:11:02
Honestly,
1:11:02
when
1:11:02
you
1:11:03
said
1:11:03
second
1:11:03
rounder,
1:11:04
I
1:11:04
was
1:11:04
like
1:11:05
maybe.
1:11:05
No.
1:11:05
I
1:11:06
mean
1:11:06
he
1:11:06
played
1:11:06
in
1:11:06
42
1:11:07
CBA
1:11:07
games
1:11:08
over
1:11:08
three
1:11:08
seasons.
1:11:09
Gosh.
1:11:09
Are
1:11:10
you
1:11:10
ready
1:11:10
for
1:11:10
these
1:11:10
team
1:11:10
names?
1:11:11
Yeah.
1:11:12
Sioux
1:11:12
Falls
1:11:13
Skyforce.
1:11:13
Love
1:11:14
it.
1:11:14
Fort
1:11:14
Wayne
1:11:14
Fury.
1:11:15
Quad
1:11:16
City
1:11:16
Thunder.
1:11:19
I
1:11:19
like
1:11:19
The
1:11:19
Thunder.
1:11:20
Averaged
1:11:20
11
1:11:20
points
1:11:21
per
1:11:21
game
1:11:21
in
1:11:21
his
1:11:21
career.
1:11:22
Then
1:11:22
where's
1:11:22
Quad
1:11:23
City?
1:11:24
Is
1:11:24
that
1:11:24
going
1:11:24
to
1:11:24
be
1:11:24
like
1:11:25
Iowa?
1:11:25
Yeah,
1:11:26
I
1:11:26
think
1:11:26
so.
1:11:27
Yes.
1:11:27
Iowa.
1:11:28
Quad
1:11:28
Cities
1:11:29
of
1:11:29
Illinois
1:11:29
and
1:11:29
Iowa.
1:11:30
So
1:11:30
I
1:11:30
guess
1:11:30
that's
1:11:31
a
1:11:31
junction.
1:11:31
Yeah.
1:11:33
Also
1:11:33
played
1:11:33
in
1:11:33
Turkey,
1:11:34
Poland
1:11:34
and
1:11:34
France.
1:11:35
Professionally.
1:11:36
Nice.
1:11:38
Anderson
1:11:39
Hunt,
1:11:39
man,
1:11:40
again,
1:11:42
like
1:11:42
feels
1:11:42
lost
1:11:44
in
1:11:44
time
1:11:44
a
1:11:44
little
1:11:44
bit
1:11:45
when
1:11:45
you
1:11:45
think
1:11:45
back
1:11:45
on
1:11:45
this
1:11:46
team.
1:11:46
And
1:11:46
now
1:11:46
he
1:11:47
really
1:11:47
feels
1:11:47
lost
1:11:47
in
1:11:48
time.
1:11:48
Like
1:11:48
especially
1:11:49
when
1:11:49
you
1:11:49
just
1:11:49
watch
1:11:51
his
1:11:52
style
1:11:52
of
1:11:52
play.
1:11:52
Like
1:11:53
it
1:11:53
Just
1:11:53
feels
1:11:53
like
1:11:53
that
1:11:54
should
1:11:54
have
1:11:55
translated
1:11:55
well
1:11:55
to
1:11:55
the
1:11:56
NBA
1:11:56
at
1:11:57
least
1:11:57
as
1:11:57
a
1:11:57
second
1:11:57
round
1:11:58
pick.
1:11:58
That
1:11:58
is
1:11:59
a
1:11:59
come
1:11:59
in
1:12:00
and
1:12:00
score
1:12:00
it
1:12:00
when
1:12:00
we
1:12:01
need
1:12:01
it.
1:12:01
You
1:12:01
know,
1:12:01
like
1:12:01
you're
1:12:02
in
1:12:02
that
1:12:02
second
1:12:02
group
1:12:02
that
1:12:03
comes
1:12:03
off
1:12:03
the
1:12:03
bench.
1:12:03
It's
1:12:04
really
1:12:04
odd
1:12:04
that
1:12:04
he
1:12:04
wasn't
1:12:05
drafted
1:12:05
in
1:12:05
the
1:12:05
NBA.
1:12:06
Yeah.
1:12:07
Well.
1:12:07
And
1:12:07
I
1:12:07
will
1:12:08
mention
1:12:08
too,
1:12:08
he
1:12:08
was
1:12:08
one
1:12:09
of
1:12:09
the
1:12:09
guys
1:12:09
in
1:12:09
the
1:12:09
hot
1:12:10
tub.
1:12:11
And
1:12:11
that's
1:12:12
Augment.
1:12:12
Anthony
1:12:12
and
1:12:13
LJ
1:12:13
were
1:12:13
not
1:12:13
in
1:12:14
their
1:12:14
hot
1:12:14
tub.
1:12:14
A
1:12:14
couple
1:12:15
of
1:12:15
footnotes.
1:12:15
He
1:12:15
did
1:12:15
get
1:12:16
arrested
1:12:16
in
1:12:16
93
1:12:17
for
1:12:17
marijuana.
1:12:18
Oh
1:12:19
no.
1:12:19
With
1:12:20
a
1:12:20
traffic
1:12:20
stop.
1:12:20
But
1:12:21
it
1:12:21
was
1:12:21
a
1:12:21
misdemeanor.
1:12:22
Yeah.
1:12:22
Also
1:12:23
nothing
1:12:23
we'd
1:12:23
be
1:12:24
concerned
1:12:24
about.
1:12:24
Also
1:12:25
face
1:12:25
charge
1:12:25
of
1:12:25
attempting
1:12:26
embezzlement
1:12:26
in
1:12:26
2002
1:12:27
after
1:12:27
he
1:12:27
failed
1:12:28
to
1:12:28
return
1:12:28
a
1:12:28
rental
1:12:29
car
1:12:29
for
1:12:30
an
1:12:30
experience
1:12:30
an
1:12:31
extended
1:12:31
period
1:12:31
of
1:12:31
time.
1:12:32
How's
1:12:33
that
1:12:33
embezzlement?
1:12:33
I
1:12:34
don't
1:12:34
know.
1:12:34
I
1:12:34
was
1:12:34
just
1:12:34
thinking
1:12:35
back
1:12:35
to
1:12:35
our
1:12:35
days
1:12:35
of
1:12:36
working
1:12:36
together
1:12:36
at
1:12:37
Blockbuster.
1:12:37
Were
1:12:38
some
1:12:38
of
1:12:38
those
1:12:38
people
1:12:38
that
1:12:39
never
1:12:39
returned
1:12:39
their
1:12:39
VHS's
1:12:40
embezzlers.
1:12:42
I
1:12:42
wonder
1:12:43
if
1:12:43
he
1:12:43
was
1:12:44
told
1:12:44
by
1:12:44
somebody
1:12:44
that
1:12:45
he
1:12:45
could
1:12:45
just
1:12:45
keep
1:12:45
the
1:12:45
vehicle
1:12:47
and
1:12:47
then
1:12:49
ordered
1:12:50
to
1:12:50
pay
1:12:50
$1300
1:12:51
in
1:12:51
restitution.
1:12:51
Placed
1:12:52
on
1:12:52
probation.
1:12:54
Yeah.
1:12:55
So
1:12:55
Anderson
1:12:56
Hunt's
1:12:56
career
1:12:57
didn't
1:12:57
go
1:12:57
as
1:12:57
he
1:12:57
would
1:12:58
have
1:12:58
liked.
1:12:58
From
1:12:58
this
1:12:58
point.
1:12:59
As
1:12:59
we're
1:12:59
at
1:13:00
this
1:13:00
point
1:13:00
against
1:13:00
Duke.
1:13:01
I'm
1:13:01
gonna
1:13:01
bet
1:13:03
there
1:13:03
was
1:13:04
minimum
1:13:04
five
1:13:05
guys
1:13:05
on
1:13:05
this
1:13:05
team
1:13:06
that
1:13:06
were
1:13:06
all
1:13:07
already
1:13:07
planning
1:13:08
what
1:13:08
are
1:13:08
we
1:13:09
gonna.
1:13:09
How
1:13:09
can
1:13:09
we
1:13:09
play
1:13:10
together
1:13:10
in
1:13:10
the
1:13:10
NBA
1:13:11
or
1:13:11
something
1:13:11
like
1:13:11
that.
1:13:11
You
1:13:12
know.
1:13:13
Because
1:13:14
the
1:13:14
other
1:13:14
guy
1:13:14
I
1:13:14
was
1:13:14
impressed
1:13:15
with
1:13:15
in
1:13:15
this
1:13:15
game
1:13:16
also
1:13:16
comes
1:13:16
off
1:13:16
the
1:13:16
bench.
1:13:17
But
1:13:17
it's
1:13:17
that
1:13:17
Moses
1:13:18
scurry.
1:13:18
Yeah.
1:13:19
Also
1:13:19
in
1:13:19
the
1:13:19
hot
1:13:19
tub.
1:13:19
But
1:13:20
man,
1:13:20
I
1:13:21
mean
1:13:21
he
1:13:21
was
1:13:21
kind
1:13:22
of
1:13:22
a.
1:13:22
He
1:13:23
was
1:13:23
an
1:13:23
absolute
1:13:23
force
1:13:24
as
1:13:24
well.
1:13:25
But
1:13:26
nonetheless.
1:13:27
So
1:13:28
they
1:13:28
go
1:13:28
to
1:13:28
the
1:13:28
NBA.
1:13:29
OGMAN.
1:13:30
15
1:13:31
years.
1:13:31
Augment.
1:13:31
Career
1:13:32
augment.
1:13:32
Yeah.
1:13:33
I
1:13:33
was
1:13:33
going
1:13:33
to
1:13:33
say
1:13:33
mostly
1:13:33
Hawks.
1:13:35
Five
1:13:35
years
1:13:36
with
1:13:36
the
1:13:36
Hawks
1:13:36
and
1:13:37
had
1:13:37
a
1:13:37
swim
1:13:37
with
1:13:37
the
1:13:37
Pistons.
1:13:38
5.
1:13:38
Four
1:13:38
more
1:13:39
seasons
1:13:39
with
1:13:39
the
1:13:40
Trailblazers
1:13:41
and
1:13:41
then
1:13:41
hopped
1:13:42
from
1:13:42
Charlotte
1:13:43
Hornets.
1:13:43
Was
1:13:44
there
1:13:44
when
1:13:44
they
1:13:44
moved
1:13:45
to
1:13:45
New
1:13:45
Orleans.
1:13:45
Oh
1:13:46
wow.
1:13:46
And
1:13:46
then
1:13:47
played
1:13:47
for
1:13:47
the
1:13:47
Orlando
1:13:48
Magic
1:13:48
and
1:13:49
has
1:13:49
been
1:13:50
involved
1:13:50
in
1:13:50
coaching
1:13:51
player
1:13:51
development
1:13:52
since.
1:13:52
Nice.
1:13:53
Currently
1:13:54
with
1:13:54
Sacramento
1:13:54
Kings
1:13:55
in
1:13:55
the
1:13:55
player
1:13:55
development.
1:13:56
You
1:13:56
got
1:13:56
it
1:13:56
in
1:13:56
front
1:13:56
of
1:13:57
you
1:13:57
over
1:13:57
there.
1:13:57
Greg
1:13:57
Anthony's
1:13:58
career.
1:13:59
I
1:13:59
do
1:13:59
not.
1:14:01
Definitely
1:14:01
had
1:14:02
a.
1:14:02
Had
1:14:02
a
1:14:02
nice
1:14:03
career
1:14:03
though.
1:14:03
From
1:14:03
what
1:14:03
I
1:14:04
can
1:14:04
remember.
1:14:04
I
1:14:04
remember
1:14:05
him
1:14:05
as
1:14:05
a
1:14:05
Nick.
1:14:05
Yeah.
1:14:06
He
1:14:08
really
1:14:12
kind
1:14:12
of
1:14:12
surprised
1:14:12
that
1:14:13
he
1:14:13
had
1:14:14
the
1:14:14
TV
1:14:14
career
1:14:15
that
1:14:15
he
1:14:15
had.
1:14:15
He's
1:14:15
great
1:14:16
on
1:14:16
tv.
1:14:16
Yeah.
1:14:16
I
1:14:16
think
1:14:17
he's
1:14:17
outstanding.
1:14:17
I
1:14:18
think
1:14:18
he's
1:14:18
really
1:14:18
good.
1:14:19
His
1:14:19
NBA
1:14:19
career.
1:14:20
Career
1:14:22
lasted
1:14:22
11
1:14:22
seasons.
1:14:24
Four
1:14:24
with
1:14:24
the
1:14:24
Knicks,
1:14:25
two
1:14:25
with
1:14:25
the
1:14:25
Vancouver
1:14:26
Grizzlies,
1:14:28
one
1:14:28
with
1:14:28
the
1:14:29
Seattle
1:14:29
SuperSonics,
1:14:31
two
1:14:31
with
1:14:31
the
1:14:32
Trailblazers,
1:14:32
one
1:14:33
with
1:14:33
the
1:14:33
Bulls,
1:14:33
and
1:14:33
then
1:14:34
retired
1:14:34
with
1:14:34
the
1:14:34
Bucks.
1:14:35
I
1:14:36
like
1:14:36
it.
1:14:38
Never
1:14:39
really
1:14:40
averaged
1:14:40
7.3
1:14:41
points,
1:14:41
4,
1:14:42
4
1:14:42
assists
1:14:43
a
1:14:43
game.
1:14:43
Never
1:14:44
really
1:14:44
much
1:14:45
of
1:14:45
a
1:14:45
superstar.
1:14:46
Well,
1:14:47
sometimes
1:14:47
us
1:14:48
point
1:14:48
guards
1:14:48
gets
1:14:49
get
1:14:49
glossed
1:14:49
over
1:14:50
like
1:14:50
that
1:14:50
a
1:14:50
little
1:14:50
bit
1:14:51
from
1:14:51
that
1:14:51
era,
1:14:52
especially
1:14:52
like,
1:14:53
no
1:14:53
pun
1:14:53
intended.
1:14:54
So
1:14:54
the.
1:14:56
And
1:14:56
then
1:14:56
you
1:14:56
have
1:14:57
lj
1:14:57
who
1:14:58
basically
1:14:59
goes
1:15:00
from
1:15:01
this
1:15:01
larger
1:15:02
than
1:15:02
life
1:15:03
player
1:15:03
at
1:15:03
UNLV
1:15:05
to
1:15:05
an
1:15:05
even
1:15:05
larger
1:15:06
than
1:15:06
life
1:15:06
player
1:15:07
in
1:15:07
the
1:15:07
NBA.
1:15:08
I
1:15:08
can
1:15:08
remember.
1:15:08
And
1:15:09
again
1:15:09
this
1:15:09
is
1:15:09
now
1:15:10
peak
1:15:10
NBA
1:15:11
fandom
1:15:12
for
1:15:12
me
1:15:13
is
1:15:14
in
1:15:14
that
1:15:14
early
1:15:14
90s
1:15:15
time
1:15:15
frame.
1:15:15
I
1:15:16
can
1:15:16
remember
1:15:16
everything
1:15:16
about
1:15:17
him
1:15:17
being
1:15:17
drafted
1:15:18
his
1:15:18
rookie
1:15:19
year
1:15:20
and
1:15:20
just
1:15:20
that
1:15:21
he
1:15:21
came
1:15:21
in
1:15:21
and
1:15:21
was
1:15:21
immediately
1:15:22
dominant,
1:15:23
you
1:15:23
know,
1:15:23
and,
1:15:23
and
1:15:24
playing
1:15:24
such
1:15:24
a.
1:15:25
High
1:15:25
level,
1:15:25
an
1:15:25
all
1:15:25
star
1:15:26
out
1:15:26
of
1:15:26
the
1:15:26
box.
1:15:26
Yes,
1:15:28
absolutely.
1:15:29
And
1:15:29
injuries
1:15:30
really
1:15:30
derailed,
1:15:31
changed
1:15:32
his
1:15:32
career
1:15:32
for
1:15:32
sure.
1:15:32
He
1:15:33
just
1:15:33
was
1:15:33
never
1:15:33
the
1:15:33
same
1:15:34
player.
1:15:34
Yeah,
1:15:35
changed
1:15:35
his.
1:15:35
His
1:15:36
style
1:15:36
for
1:15:36
sure.
1:15:39
The
1:15:39
thing
1:15:40
I
1:15:40
remember
1:15:40
most
1:15:40
about
1:15:41
LJ
1:15:41
off
1:15:41
the
1:15:41
court
1:15:42
was
1:15:42
Grandmama,
1:15:43
of
1:15:43
course.
1:15:44
And
1:15:44
have
1:15:45
you
1:15:45
ever
1:15:45
heard
1:15:45
the
1:15:45
story
1:15:46
of
1:15:46
how
1:15:46
that
1:15:46
came
1:15:46
to
1:15:47
be
1:15:47
or
1:15:48
kind
1:15:48
of
1:15:48
what
1:15:49
should
1:15:49
have
1:15:50
been?
1:15:50
Did
1:15:50
you
1:15:50
and
1:15:50
I
1:15:50
talk
1:15:51
about
1:15:51
this
1:15:51
at
1:15:51
all
1:15:51
already?
1:15:52
Okay,
1:15:52
go
1:15:52
ahead
1:15:52
please,
1:15:52
for
1:15:52
the
1:15:53
audience.
1:15:53
So
1:15:53
when
1:15:53
LJ
1:15:54
was
1:15:55
meeting
1:15:55
with.
1:15:56
He
1:15:57
was
1:15:57
signed
1:15:57
with
1:15:57
Converse.
1:15:58
Yes.
1:15:59
Right.
1:15:59
And
1:15:59
that's
1:16:00
where
1:16:00
the
1:16:00
Grandmama
1:16:01
thing
1:16:01
comes
1:16:01
from
1:16:01
is
1:16:02
this
1:16:02
Converse
1:16:02
ad.
1:16:03
But
1:16:04
he
1:16:04
signs
1:16:04
with
1:16:04
Converse,
1:16:05
he
1:16:05
meets
1:16:06
with
1:16:06
their
1:16:06
marketing
1:16:07
team
1:16:07
and
1:16:07
all
1:16:08
the
1:16:08
special
1:16:08
people
1:16:09
that
1:16:09
make
1:16:09
all
1:16:09
those
1:16:09
decisions
1:16:10
at
1:16:10
Converse
1:16:11
and
1:16:11
they
1:16:11
pitch
1:16:12
him
1:16:12
this
1:16:12
idea.
1:16:14
They
1:16:14
say,
1:16:14
okay,
1:16:15
you're
1:16:16
going
1:16:16
to.
1:16:16
We're
1:16:16
going
1:16:17
to
1:16:17
do
1:16:17
this
1:16:17
like
1:16:17
it's
1:16:18
a
1:16:18
Frankenstein
1:16:19
story.
1:16:20
And
1:16:20
we're
1:16:21
going
1:16:21
to
1:16:21
take
1:16:21
the
1:16:22
two
1:16:22
greatest
1:16:23
players
1:16:24
ever
1:16:24
to
1:16:24
wear
1:16:24
Converse,
1:16:25
which
1:16:25
would
1:16:25
be
1:16:26
Magic
1:16:26
Johnson
1:16:27
and
1:16:28
Larry.
1:16:28
And
1:16:28
Larry
1:16:29
Bird.
1:16:30
Note
1:16:30
Johnson
1:16:31
and
1:16:31
Larry.
1:16:32
And
1:16:32
we're
1:16:32
going
1:16:33
to
1:16:33
have
1:16:33
them
1:16:34
as
1:16:35
doctors
1:16:35
like
1:16:36
Dr.
1:16:36
Frankenstein
1:16:37
building
1:16:38
the
1:16:38
greatest
1:16:39
NBA
1:16:39
player
1:16:40
of
1:16:40
all
1:16:40
time,
1:16:40
the
1:16:41
perfect
1:16:41
player.
1:16:42
And
1:16:42
so
1:16:42
it's
1:16:42
going
1:16:42
to
1:16:42
be
1:16:43
like
1:16:43
this
1:16:43
whole.
1:16:43
They
1:16:43
pitch
1:16:44
the
1:16:44
whole
1:16:44
first
1:16:44
commercial
1:16:45
to
1:16:45
him
1:16:45
is
1:16:45
like
1:16:46
he's
1:16:46
going
1:16:46
to
1:16:46
be
1:16:46
laying
1:16:46
down
1:16:47
and
1:16:47
they're
1:16:47
going
1:16:47
to
1:16:47
be
1:16:47
hovering
1:16:48
over
1:16:48
him,
1:16:49
maybe
1:16:49
a
1:16:49
little
1:16:49
maniacal
1:16:50
laughing
1:16:50
in
1:16:51
between.
1:16:51
And
1:16:51
like
1:16:52
he'll
1:16:52
have
1:16:53
the
1:16:54
whatever
1:16:56
because
1:16:56
he
1:16:56
could
1:16:56
shoot.
1:16:56
Yeah,
1:16:57
he'll
1:16:57
have
1:16:57
the
1:16:57
shooting
1:16:58
game
1:16:58
of
1:16:58
Bird
1:16:59
and
1:16:59
the
1:16:59
whatever
1:17:00
and
1:17:00
the
1:17:00
smile
1:17:00
Magic.
1:17:01
I
1:17:01
don't
1:17:01
know
1:17:01
where
1:17:01
they
1:17:02
were
1:17:02
going
1:17:02
to
1:17:02
go
1:17:02
with
1:17:02
all
1:17:02
that,
1:17:03
but.
1:17:04
And
1:17:04
he
1:17:04
loves
1:17:05
the
1:17:05
idea.
1:17:06
Absolutely
1:17:06
loves
1:17:07
the
1:17:07
idea.
1:17:07
Everyone
1:17:08
loves
1:17:08
that
1:17:08
idea,
1:17:09
right?
1:17:09
I
1:17:09
love
1:17:10
that
1:17:10
idea.
1:17:10
I
1:17:11
think
1:17:11
I
1:17:11
love
1:17:11
Grandmama,
1:17:12
but
1:17:12
I
1:17:12
would
1:17:12
have
1:17:12
loved
1:17:13
Magic
1:17:13
and
1:17:13
Bird
1:17:14
to.
1:17:14
Be
1:17:14
part
1:17:14
of
1:17:14
that
1:17:15
idea
1:17:15
so
1:17:15
much
1:17:15
that
1:17:15
I
1:17:15
wish
1:17:16
the
1:17:16
Matt
1:17:16
Damon,
1:17:16
Ben
1:17:17
Affleck
1:17:17
movie
1:17:17
Air
1:17:18
was
1:17:18
about
1:17:18
this.
1:17:19
Yes,
1:17:19
exactly.
1:17:20
So
1:17:21
maybe
1:17:21
we
1:17:21
make
1:17:22
a
1:17:22
movie
1:17:22
about
1:17:22
this
1:17:23
idea.
1:17:23
I
1:17:23
don't
1:17:23
know,
1:17:23
but.
1:17:25
And
1:17:25
then
1:17:25
he
1:17:26
goes,
1:17:26
and
1:17:27
that's
1:17:27
what
1:17:27
he
1:17:28
thinks
1:17:28
is
1:17:28
going
1:17:28
to
1:17:28
happen.
1:17:29
And
1:17:29
then
1:17:29
it's
1:17:30
time
1:17:30
for
1:17:30
him
1:17:30
to
1:17:31
show
1:17:31
up
1:17:31
for
1:17:31
his
1:17:31
first
1:17:32
shoot.
1:17:33
He
1:17:33
walks
1:17:33
into
1:17:34
the
1:17:35
room,
1:17:36
dressing
1:17:36
room,
1:17:36
trailer,
1:17:37
whatever
1:17:37
it
1:17:37
was,
1:17:38
and
1:17:38
he
1:17:39
notices
1:17:40
that
1:17:40
all
1:17:40
the
1:17:40
stuff
1:17:41
hanging
1:17:42
on
1:17:42
this
1:17:42
hanging
1:17:43
rack
1:17:43
that's
1:17:43
in
1:17:43
the
1:17:43
middle
1:17:44
of
1:17:44
the
1:17:44
room
1:17:45
is
1:17:45
ladies
1:17:46
dresses.
1:17:48
Some
1:17:48
high
1:17:49
heels
1:17:49
were
1:17:49
even
1:17:50
there,
1:17:50
and
1:17:50
wigs
1:17:51
and
1:17:51
ladies
1:17:52
jewelry.
1:17:53
And
1:17:53
so
1:17:54
he
1:17:54
is
1:17:54
like,
1:17:54
hey,
1:17:55
what's
1:17:56
going
1:17:56
on?
1:17:56
Wtf?
1:17:57
And
1:17:57
they
1:17:58
tell
1:17:58
him,
1:18:00
nope,
1:18:01
change
1:18:01
of
1:18:01
plans.
1:18:02
One
1:18:03
of
1:18:03
those
1:18:03
guys
1:18:03
wouldn't
1:18:04
agree
1:18:04
to
1:18:04
do
1:18:04
it.
1:18:04
It
1:18:05
was.
1:18:05
It
1:18:05
was
1:18:05
Bird,
1:18:05
wasn't
1:18:06
it?
1:18:06
One
1:18:06
of
1:18:06
those
1:18:06
guys
1:18:07
wouldn't
1:18:07
agree
1:18:07
to
1:18:07
do
1:18:08
it.
1:18:08
Now,
1:18:08
I
1:18:09
heard
1:18:09
Larry
1:18:10
tell
1:18:10
this
1:18:10
story.
1:18:10
Larry
1:18:11
Johnson
1:18:11
tells
1:18:12
the
1:18:12
story,
1:18:13
and
1:18:13
he
1:18:14
was
1:18:14
on
1:18:14
the
1:18:14
up
1:18:14
and
1:18:14
Smoke
1:18:15
podcast.
1:18:16
And
1:18:16
one
1:18:17
of
1:18:17
the
1:18:17
hosts
1:18:17
of
1:18:17
that
1:18:17
podcast
1:18:18
did
1:18:18
exactly
1:18:19
what
1:18:19
you
1:18:19
just
1:18:19
did.
1:18:20
They
1:18:20
said
1:18:20
it
1:18:20
was
1:18:20
Larry
1:18:21
Bird.
1:18:21
And
1:18:22
so
1:18:22
Larry
1:18:22
Johnson
1:18:23
said
1:18:23
this.
1:18:23
I
1:18:23
will
1:18:24
tell
1:18:24
you
1:18:24
this.
1:18:25
Larry
1:18:26
Bird
1:18:26
loved
1:18:27
me
1:18:27
from
1:18:27
the
1:18:27
point
1:18:27
I
1:18:28
got
1:18:28
into
1:18:28
the
1:18:28
NBA
1:18:29
and
1:18:29
helped
1:18:29
me
1:18:29
anytime
1:18:29
I
1:18:30
needed
1:18:30
it.
1:18:30
And
1:18:31
then
1:18:31
they
1:18:31
said,
1:18:32
again,
1:18:32
so.
1:18:33
But
1:18:33
then
1:18:33
Bird
1:18:34
did
1:18:34
that.
1:18:34
He
1:18:34
said,
1:18:35
I'll
1:18:35
say
1:18:35
it
1:18:35
again.
1:18:36
Larry
1:18:36
Bird
1:18:37
would
1:18:37
have
1:18:37
never
1:18:37
done
1:18:37
anything
1:18:38
to
1:18:38
hurt
1:18:38
my
1:18:38
career.
1:18:39
And
1:18:39
he
1:18:39
supported
1:18:40
me
1:18:40
at
1:18:40
every
1:18:40
turn
1:18:41
or
1:18:41
whatever.
1:18:42
So
1:18:42
it
1:18:42
was
1:18:42
Magic.
1:18:43
Magic
1:18:43
shut
1:18:44
it
1:18:44
down.
1:18:44
According
1:18:44
to
1:18:44
Larry,
1:18:45
According
1:18:46
to
1:18:46
the
1:18:46
up
1:18:46
and
1:18:46
Smoke
1:18:47
podcast.
1:18:47
Give
1:18:47
everybody
1:18:48
the
1:18:48
right
1:18:48
props
1:18:48
here.
1:18:49
But
1:18:49
I
1:18:50
was
1:18:50
a
1:18:50
little
1:18:50
bit,
1:18:51
you
1:18:51
know,
1:18:52
have
1:18:52
you.
1:18:52
The
1:18:52
reason
1:18:53
I
1:18:53
said
1:18:53
that
1:18:53
is,
1:18:53
have
1:18:53
you
1:18:54
heard
1:18:54
Ezra
1:18:54
Edelman
1:18:55
talk
1:18:55
about
1:18:55
when
1:18:56
he
1:18:56
was
1:18:56
doing
1:18:56
the
1:18:56
Larry
1:18:57
magic?
1:18:57
No.
1:18:58
You
1:18:59
know,
1:18:59
he
1:19:00
did.
1:19:00
And
1:19:01
he
1:19:01
said
1:19:01
that
1:19:01
when
1:19:02
he
1:19:02
went
1:19:02
to
1:19:02
French
1:19:02
Lick,
1:19:03
he
1:19:04
basically
1:19:04
had
1:19:05
designed
1:19:06
this
1:19:06
shot
1:19:07
that
1:19:07
they
1:19:07
would
1:19:07
have
1:19:08
Larry
1:19:09
mowing
1:19:09
his
1:19:10
lawn
1:19:10
and
1:19:11
it
1:19:11
would
1:19:11
be
1:19:12
Magic
1:19:12
in
1:19:12
LA
1:19:13
doing
1:19:13
all
1:19:13
the
1:19:13
business
1:19:14
stuff,
1:19:14
and
1:19:15
Larry
1:19:15
and
1:19:15
French,
1:19:15
like,
1:19:16
mowing
1:19:16
his
1:19:16
lawn
1:19:17
to
1:19:17
show
1:19:17
the
1:19:18
paradox
1:19:18
of
1:19:18
who
1:19:19
they
1:19:19
are
1:19:19
now,
1:19:20
but
1:19:20
also
1:19:20
to
1:19:21
kind
1:19:21
of
1:19:22
play
1:19:22
it
1:19:22
against
1:19:22
Deal.
1:19:23
And
1:19:24
Ezra
1:19:24
said
1:19:25
that
1:19:25
he
1:19:26
went
1:19:26
to
1:19:26
Larry,
1:19:27
he
1:19:27
interviewed
1:19:28
Larry,
1:19:28
because
1:19:29
I
1:19:29
think
1:19:29
Magic
1:19:29
was
1:19:29
the
1:19:30
one
1:19:30
that
1:19:30
basically
1:19:30
called
1:19:31
Larry
1:19:31
and
1:19:31
said,
1:19:31
hey,
1:19:31
will
1:19:32
you
1:19:32
do
1:19:32
this?
1:19:33
And
1:19:33
because
1:19:33
Larry
1:19:34
didn't
1:19:34
want
1:19:34
to.
1:19:34
And
1:19:35
Ezra
1:19:35
said
1:19:36
the
1:19:36
most
1:19:36
nervous
1:19:37
he's
1:19:37
ever
1:19:37
been
1:19:37
was
1:19:38
explaining
1:19:38
this
1:19:38
shot
1:19:38
to
1:19:39
Larry.
1:19:39
And
1:19:40
Larry
1:19:40
looked
1:19:40
at
1:19:40
him,
1:19:40
went,
1:19:41
yeah,
1:19:41
I'm
1:19:41
not
1:19:41
doing
1:19:41
that.
1:19:42
Really?
1:19:42
Yeah.
1:19:43
And
1:19:43
Ezra
1:19:43
was
1:19:43
just
1:19:43
like,
1:19:44
okay.
1:19:45
But
1:19:45
basically
1:19:46
Ezra
1:19:46
was
1:19:46
like,
1:19:47
we
1:19:47
had
1:19:47
this
1:19:47
planned
1:19:48
out.
1:19:48
So
1:19:49
in
1:19:49
my
1:19:49
mind,
1:19:49
when
1:19:49
you
1:19:49
said
1:19:50
that,
1:19:50
I
1:19:50
immediately
1:19:50
thought
1:19:50
of
1:19:51
Ezra's
1:19:51
story,
1:19:51
which
1:19:52
was.
1:19:52
Larry
1:19:53
was
1:19:53
like,
1:19:53
absolutely
1:19:54
not.
1:19:54
Yeah.
1:19:55
Which
1:19:55
I
1:19:55
was
1:19:55
trying
1:19:56
to
1:19:56
think,
1:19:56
why
1:19:56
do
1:19:56
you
1:19:56
think
1:19:57
Magic
1:19:57
stands
1:19:58
in
1:19:58
the
1:19:58
way
1:19:58
of
1:19:58
this?
1:19:58
Well,
1:19:59
I
1:19:59
mean,
1:19:59
it
1:19:59
could
1:19:59
be
1:19:59
as
1:20:00
simple
1:20:00
as
1:20:00
he
1:20:00
wanted.
1:20:01
Money,
1:20:01
more
1:20:02
money
1:20:02
from.
1:20:02
It
1:20:02
had
1:20:02
to
1:20:03
have
1:20:03
been
1:20:03
that
1:20:03
because
1:20:03
those
1:20:03
guys
1:20:04
were
1:20:04
always.
1:20:04
I
1:20:05
mean,
1:20:05
like
1:20:06
the.
1:20:06
The
1:20:06
bird,
1:20:07
Jordan
1:20:07
McDonald's
1:20:08
commercials
1:20:08
are
1:20:08
the
1:20:08
most.
1:20:09
Yes.
1:20:09
Yeah.
1:20:09
Famous
1:20:10
commercials
1:20:10
of
1:20:11
our
1:20:11
youth.
1:20:11
But
1:20:11
hear
1:20:11
me
1:20:12
out
1:20:12
on
1:20:12
this
1:20:12
conspir.
1:20:13
Scott's
1:20:13
conspiracy.
1:20:14
Okay.
1:20:14
Right.
1:20:15
1990
1:20:17
was
1:20:17
this
1:20:17
three.
1:20:18
I
1:20:18
guess.
1:20:18
92.
1:20:19
93
1:20:19
was
1:20:19
his
1:20:19
first
1:20:20
year
1:20:20
in
1:20:20
the
1:20:20
league,
1:20:20
I
1:20:20
think.
1:20:21
I
1:20:21
think.
1:20:21
Was
1:20:21
it.
1:20:22
Was
1:20:22
it
1:20:23
91?
1:20:23
I
1:20:23
mean,
1:20:23
91.
1:20:24
91.
1:20:24
So
1:20:25
91.
1:20:25
92.
1:20:26
Larry
1:20:27
Bird's
1:20:28
career
1:20:28
is
1:20:29
over.
1:20:29
Like.
1:20:30
Yeah,
1:20:32
he
1:20:32
is.
1:20:32
When
1:20:33
does
1:20:33
AIDS
1:20:33
come?
1:20:34
93.
1:20:35
I
1:20:35
believe
1:20:36
so.
1:20:36
But
1:20:37
my
1:20:37
thinking
1:20:37
there
1:20:38
is
1:20:38
still.
1:20:38
Magic
1:20:39
is
1:20:39
very
1:20:39
much
1:20:39
maybe
1:20:40
still
1:20:40
perceiving
1:20:41
himself.
1:20:41
Himself
1:20:42
as.
1:20:43
I'm
1:20:43
not
1:20:43
the
1:20:44
doctor
1:20:44
creating
1:20:44
the
1:20:45
greatest
1:20:45
player.
1:20:46
I
1:20:46
am
1:20:46
the
1:20:46
greatest
1:20:47
player.
1:20:47
You
1:20:47
know
1:20:47
what
1:20:48
I
1:20:48
mean?
1:20:48
I
1:20:48
don't
1:20:48
know.
1:20:48
That
1:20:49
was
1:20:49
just
1:20:49
a
1:20:49
thought
1:20:49
of
1:20:50
like,
1:20:50
Bird
1:20:50
is
1:20:50
in
1:20:51
a
1:20:51
different
1:20:51
place.
1:20:51
And
1:20:51
there
1:20:52
could
1:20:52
also
1:20:52
be
1:20:52
something
1:20:53
weird
1:20:54
there,
1:20:54
I
1:20:54
guess,
1:20:55
where,
1:20:55
you
1:20:56
know,
1:20:56
it
1:20:56
could
1:20:56
have
1:20:56
just
1:20:57
been
1:20:57
as
1:20:57
easy
1:20:57
as
1:20:58
money
1:20:59
or
1:20:59
time
1:20:59
or
1:21:00
conflicts
1:21:00
or
1:21:00
whatever.
1:21:01
But
1:21:01
it
1:21:02
did
1:21:02
seem
1:21:02
kind
1:21:02
of
1:21:02
odd.
1:21:03
Okay,
1:21:03
so
1:21:04
the
1:21:04
AIDS
1:21:04
announcement
1:21:05
hadn't
1:21:05
happened
1:21:05
yet.
1:21:06
Yeah,
1:21:06
that
1:21:07
was.
1:21:07
That
1:21:07
was
1:21:09
five
1:21:09
months,
1:21:09
four
1:21:09
months
1:21:10
after
1:21:10
he
1:21:10
gets
1:21:10
drafted.
1:21:11
And
1:21:11
they're.
1:21:11
And
1:21:11
the
1:21:11
Lakers
1:21:12
are
1:21:12
outstanding
1:21:13
at
1:21:13
this
1:21:13
point
1:21:13
still,
1:21:14
you
1:21:14
know,
1:21:14
I
1:21:14
mean,
1:21:15
so
1:21:15
I
1:21:15
believe
1:21:16
the
1:21:16
next
1:21:17
year,
1:21:17
then
1:21:17
they
1:21:17
go
1:21:18
to
1:21:18
the
1:21:18
finals,
1:21:18
which
1:21:19
is
1:21:19
the.
1:21:19
Year
1:21:19
when
1:21:20
they
1:21:20
play
1:21:20
Jordan
1:21:21
and
1:21:21
the
1:21:21
Bulls.
1:21:22
It's
1:21:22
got
1:21:22
to
1:21:22
be
1:21:22
the.
1:21:22
It's
1:21:23
year
1:21:23
one
1:21:23
of
1:21:23
the
1:21:24
six,
1:21:24
Right.
1:21:24
For.
1:21:25
For
1:21:27
the
1:21:27
Bulls.
1:21:27
But
1:21:28
I
1:21:28
don't
1:21:28
know.
1:21:28
We're
1:21:28
getting
1:21:29
too
1:21:29
far
1:21:29
off
1:21:29
now.
1:21:30
But
1:21:30
nonetheless,
1:21:31
I
1:21:31
thought
1:21:31
that
1:21:32
was
1:21:32
a
1:21:32
really
1:21:32
interesting
1:21:33
story.
1:21:33
And
1:21:33
regardless
1:21:34
of
1:21:34
who
1:21:35
poo
1:21:35
pooed
1:21:35
that
1:21:36
idea,
1:21:36
in
1:21:36
the
1:21:36
end
1:21:37
I
1:21:37
thought,
1:21:37
gosh,
1:21:38
I
1:21:38
think
1:21:39
in
1:21:39
hindsight
1:21:40
now
1:21:40
I'm
1:21:40
almost
1:21:40
thinking
1:21:41
I
1:21:41
would
1:21:41
have
1:21:41
almost
1:21:41
preferred
1:21:42
it
1:21:42
to
1:21:42
Grandmama
1:21:43
just
1:21:43
to
1:21:43
have
1:21:43
Magic
1:21:44
and
1:21:44
Larry
1:21:45
in
1:21:45
the
1:21:46
part
1:21:46
because
1:21:46
you
1:21:47
have
1:21:47
to
1:21:47
assume
1:21:47
that
1:21:47
that's
1:21:48
gonna
1:21:48
take
1:21:49
on
1:21:49
a
1:21:49
almost
1:21:50
like
1:21:50
episodic.
1:21:51
Yeah.
1:21:52
Run
1:21:52
like
1:21:52
Grandmama
1:21:53
did,
1:21:53
where
1:21:53
it's
1:21:54
like
1:21:54
not
1:21:54
just
1:21:54
one
1:21:54
commercial,
1:21:55
but
1:21:55
it's
1:21:55
going
1:21:55
to
1:21:55
be
1:21:56
several.
1:21:56
And
1:21:57
again,
1:21:57
a
1:21:57
lot
1:21:58
of
1:21:58
that
1:21:58
just
1:21:58
being
1:21:58
that
1:21:58
I
1:21:59
was
1:21:59
still
1:21:59
very
1:21:59
much
1:22:00
in
1:22:00
awe
1:22:00
of
1:22:00
Larry
1:22:01
and
1:22:01
Magic.
1:22:01
And
1:22:02
I
1:22:02
think
1:22:02
we
1:22:02
all
1:22:02
are
1:22:02
still
1:22:02
even
1:22:03
in
1:22:03
today,
1:22:03
but
1:22:05
I
1:22:05
think
1:22:05
that
1:22:05
would
1:22:05
have
1:22:05
been
1:22:05
a
1:22:06
lot
1:22:06
of
1:22:06
fun.
1:22:06
Do
1:22:06
we
1:22:06
have
1:22:06
a
1:22:07
quick
1:22:07
time
1:22:07
for
1:22:08
a
1:22:08
quick
1:22:08
aside
1:22:09
story?
1:22:09
Always.
1:22:09
Always.
1:22:10
So
1:22:10
we
1:22:10
love
1:22:11
card
1:22:11
shows.
1:22:11
Yes,
1:22:12
we
1:22:12
love
1:22:12
card
1:22:13
shows
1:22:13
at
1:22:13
this
1:22:14
time.
1:22:14
No
1:22:15
doubt.
1:22:15
So
1:22:15
Larry
1:22:16
came,
1:22:17
he
1:22:17
gets
1:22:18
drafted,
1:22:18
and
1:22:18
then
1:22:19
like
1:22:19
three
1:22:19
weeks
1:22:20
later,
1:22:20
he
1:22:20
does
1:22:20
the
1:22:21
card
1:22:21
show
1:22:21
in
1:22:21
Arlington
1:22:22
at
1:22:23
the
1:22:23
Sheridan.
1:22:23
You
1:22:24
know,
1:22:24
they'd
1:22:24
have
1:22:24
a
1:22:24
big
1:22:24
one
1:22:24
every
1:22:25
year.
1:22:25
One
1:22:25
year
1:22:25
they
1:22:25
had
1:22:25
the
1:22:26
National.
1:22:27
Have
1:22:27
I
1:22:27
ever
1:22:27
told
1:22:27
you
1:22:27
I've
1:22:28
told
1:22:28
this
1:22:28
story?
1:22:28
No,
1:22:29
you
1:22:29
have
1:22:29
not.
1:22:30
One
1:22:30
of
1:22:30
my
1:22:30
warmest
1:22:30
memories
1:22:31
of
1:22:31
my
1:22:31
dear
1:22:31
departed
1:22:32
mother
1:22:34
asked
1:22:35
if
1:22:35
I
1:22:35
could
1:22:36
go
1:22:36
and
1:22:36
get
1:22:36
Larry's
1:22:37
autograph
1:22:37
at
1:22:38
this
1:22:38
show.
1:22:39
I
1:22:39
mean,
1:22:39
I
1:22:40
can
1:22:40
count
1:22:40
on
1:22:40
one
1:22:41
hand
1:22:41
how
1:22:41
many
1:22:41
times
1:22:42
I've
1:22:42
done
1:22:42
that,
1:22:42
like
1:22:43
in
1:22:43
my
1:22:43
life.
1:22:44
But
1:22:44
I
1:22:45
was
1:22:45
obsessed
1:22:45
with
1:22:45
lj.
1:22:46
He
1:22:46
had
1:22:46
just
1:22:46
gotten
1:22:47
drafted
1:22:47
by
1:22:47
the
1:22:47
Hornets.
1:22:50
They
1:22:50
had,
1:22:50
they
1:22:50
had
1:22:50
already
1:22:51
had
1:22:51
mockups,
1:22:52
like
1:22:52
8
1:22:52
by
1:22:53
10
1:22:53
photos
1:22:54
of
1:22:54
like
1:22:54
him
1:22:55
in
1:22:55
the
1:22:55
jersey
1:22:55
and
1:22:55
stuff.
1:22:56
I
1:22:56
was
1:22:56
like,
1:22:56
I
1:22:56
got
1:22:56
to
1:22:56
get
1:22:56
this.
1:22:57
I
1:22:57
gotta
1:22:57
meet
1:22:57
Larry
1:22:58
and
1:22:58
I
1:22:58
gotta
1:22:58
get
1:22:58
his
1:22:58
autograph.
1:23:00
We
1:23:00
get
1:23:00
to
1:23:00
the
1:23:00
show
1:23:01
and
1:23:03
already
1:23:03
sold
1:23:04
out.
1:23:04
And
1:23:05
I
1:23:05
am
1:23:06
crest
1:23:06
fallen,
1:23:08
crestfallen.
1:23:09
He
1:23:09
walked
1:23:10
through
1:23:10
the
1:23:10
lobby
1:23:11
and
1:23:11
I
1:23:11
mean,
1:23:11
it's
1:23:13
one
1:23:13
of
1:23:13
the
1:23:14
most,
1:23:14
if
1:23:14
not
1:23:14
the
1:23:14
most
1:23:15
starstruck
1:23:15
I've
1:23:15
ever
1:23:15
been.
1:23:16
Yeah,
1:23:16
because
1:23:16
he's
1:23:17
massive.
1:23:18
I'm
1:23:18
like
1:23:18
13.
1:23:20
Massive
1:23:20
dude.
1:23:21
Massive
1:23:21
dude.
1:23:21
And
1:23:22
just
1:23:22
look
1:23:22
the
1:23:22
part.
1:23:23
He's
1:23:23
waving
1:23:24
everybody,
1:23:24
you
1:23:24
know,
1:23:25
like,
1:23:25
gregarious,
1:23:26
you
1:23:26
know,
1:23:27
he's
1:23:27
what,
1:23:27
22?
1:23:28
Yeah.
1:23:28
Life
1:23:29
just
1:23:29
all
1:23:30
in
1:23:30
front
1:23:30
of
1:23:30
him.
1:23:30
Nothing
1:23:31
but
1:23:31
green
1:23:31
lights
1:23:31
in
1:23:31
front
1:23:32
of
1:23:32
him.
1:23:32
So
1:23:33
I
1:23:33
am,
1:23:34
I
1:23:35
hear,
1:23:35
hey,
1:23:36
the,
1:23:37
it's
1:23:37
been
1:23:38
sold
1:23:39
out.
1:23:40
So
1:23:40
I'm
1:23:40
just
1:23:40
like,
1:23:41
I'll
1:23:41
just
1:23:41
mope
1:23:42
around
1:23:42
this
1:23:42
thing.
1:23:43
And
1:23:44
one
1:23:44
Guy
1:23:44
had
1:23:45
gotten
1:23:45
LJ's
1:23:46
autograph
1:23:47
on
1:23:47
an
1:23:47
8
1:23:47
by
1:23:47
10
1:23:48
and
1:23:48
put
1:23:48
it
1:23:49
in
1:23:49
a
1:23:49
plaque.
1:23:50
And
1:23:51
it
1:23:51
was
1:23:51
like
1:23:52
he
1:23:52
wanted
1:23:52
50
1:23:52
bucks
1:23:53
for.
1:23:53
I
1:23:53
can't
1:23:53
remember
1:23:53
what
1:23:53
his
1:23:54
autograph
1:23:54
was
1:23:54
for,
1:23:54
but.
1:23:55
And
1:23:55
my
1:23:56
mom
1:23:56
looked
1:23:56
at
1:23:56
it
1:23:56
and
1:23:56
went,
1:23:57
let's
1:23:57
get
1:23:57
this.
1:23:58
Yeah.
1:23:58
And
1:23:58
I,
1:23:58
I
1:23:59
just,
1:23:59
I
1:23:59
mean,
1:24:00
you
1:24:01
know,
1:24:01
held
1:24:01
it
1:24:01
to
1:24:01
my
1:24:02
chest.
1:24:02
Oh,
1:24:02
the
1:24:03
rest
1:24:03
of
1:24:03
the
1:24:03
time.
1:24:04
Yeah.
1:24:04
And
1:24:05
one
1:24:05
of
1:24:05
my
1:24:05
warmest
1:24:06
memories
1:24:07
of
1:24:07
my
1:24:07
mom
1:24:07
was
1:24:08
her
1:24:08
looking
1:24:08
at
1:24:08
me
1:24:08
and
1:24:09
going,
1:24:09
hey,
1:24:10
let's,
1:24:10
let's
1:24:11
get
1:24:11
this,
1:24:11
this
1:24:11
is
1:24:11
what
1:24:11
we
1:24:11
came
1:24:12
for.
1:24:12
Let's
1:24:12
get
1:24:12
this.
1:24:12
Like,
1:24:13
let's
1:24:13
get
1:24:13
it
1:24:13
done.
1:24:13
That's
1:24:14
awesome.
1:24:14
That
1:24:14
is
1:24:15
so
1:24:15
whatever.
1:24:16
$50
1:24:17
in
1:24:17
1991,
1:24:18
it's
1:24:19
like
1:24:19
a
1:24:19
million
1:24:19
dollars.
1:24:20
Yeah.
1:24:21
I
1:24:21
mean,
1:24:22
I
1:24:22
mean,
1:24:23
it
1:24:23
might
1:24:23
as.
1:24:23
Well
1:24:23
have
1:24:23
been
1:24:24
like,
1:24:25
there's
1:24:25
distinct,
1:24:26
I
1:24:26
mean,
1:24:27
it
1:24:27
was
1:24:27
30
1:24:27
plus
1:24:28
years
1:24:28
ago,
1:24:29
but
1:24:29
there's
1:24:29
just
1:24:30
like
1:24:31
pictures
1:24:32
in
1:24:32
my
1:24:32
mind
1:24:32
of
1:24:33
him
1:24:33
walking
1:24:33
down
1:24:33
that
1:24:34
corridor
1:24:34
and
1:24:34
people
1:24:35
yelling
1:24:35
after
1:24:35
him
1:24:36
and
1:24:36
then
1:24:36
being
1:24:37
just
1:24:37
dejected
1:24:38
that
1:24:38
it
1:24:38
wasn't
1:24:39
going
1:24:39
to
1:24:39
be
1:24:39
able
1:24:39
to
1:24:39
meet
1:24:39
him
1:24:39
and
1:24:39
get
1:24:40
his
1:24:40
autograph
1:24:40
and
1:24:40
then
1:24:41
still
1:24:42
coming
1:24:42
home
1:24:42
with
1:24:42
his
1:24:43
autograph.
1:24:43
So
1:24:43
Larry
1:24:43
Johnson
1:24:44
will
1:24:44
always
1:24:44
have
1:24:44
a
1:24:44
special
1:24:45
place
1:24:45
in
1:24:45
my
1:24:45
heart.
1:24:46
No
1:24:46
doubt.
1:24:46
Right
1:24:46
up
1:24:47
there.
1:24:47
That
1:24:48
is
1:24:48
awesome.
1:24:48
That's
1:24:49
awesome.
1:24:49
Pam.
1:24:49
Story
1:24:50
for
1:24:50
sure
1:24:50
too.
1:24:50
I
1:24:51
mean,
1:24:51
just
1:24:51
because
1:24:52
I
1:24:53
Could
1:24:53
see
1:24:53
that
1:24:54
going
1:24:54
a
1:24:54
lot
1:24:55
of
1:24:55
different
1:24:55
ways,
1:24:55
I
1:24:55
feel
1:24:56
like.
1:24:56
And
1:24:56
I.
1:24:56
And
1:24:56
I
1:24:56
would
1:24:57
like
1:24:57
to
1:24:57
think
1:24:57
I
1:24:57
would
1:24:57
have
1:24:57
had
1:24:58
a
1:24:58
similar
1:24:58
experience,
1:24:59
probably,
1:24:59
but
1:25:00
you
1:25:00
never
1:25:00
know.
1:25:00
It
1:25:00
probably
1:25:01
would
1:25:01
have
1:25:01
been
1:25:01
how.
1:25:01
How
1:25:02
well
1:25:02
I
1:25:02
was.
1:25:02
How
1:25:02
dejected
1:25:03
did
1:25:03
I
1:25:04
look.
1:25:04
You
1:25:04
know
1:25:04
what
1:25:04
I
1:25:05
mean?
1:25:05
Because
1:25:05
a
1:25:05
parent
1:25:05
can
1:25:06
tell.
1:25:06
Yeah,
1:25:06
Parent
1:25:07
can
1:25:07
tell
1:25:07
for
1:25:07
sure.
1:25:08
That's
1:25:08
awesome,
1:25:08
though.
1:25:08
That's
1:25:09
a
1:25:09
good
1:25:09
one.
1:25:09
One.
1:25:10
Well,
1:25:10
I
1:25:11
think
1:25:11
that
1:25:11
about
1:25:12
gets
1:25:12
us
1:25:12
to
1:25:12
all
1:25:12
we
1:25:13
can
1:25:13
talk
1:25:13
about
1:25:13
with
1:25:13
this
1:25:14
amazing
1:25:14
UNLV
1:25:15
team.
1:25:15
We.
1:25:16
We
1:25:17
took
1:25:17
a
1:25:17
little
1:25:17
bit
1:25:17
of
1:25:17
a
1:25:18
different
1:25:18
approach
1:25:18
on
1:25:18
this
1:25:18
in
1:25:19
that
1:25:19
we
1:25:19
weren't
1:25:19
just
1:25:19
focused
1:25:20
on
1:25:20
the
1:25:20
1990
1:25:20
part
1:25:21
of
1:25:21
it.
1:25:21
We
1:25:21
had
1:25:21
to
1:25:21
go
1:25:22
back
1:25:22
a
1:25:22
bit,
1:25:22
and
1:25:22
we
1:25:22
went
1:25:23
forward
1:25:23
a
1:25:23
bit
1:25:23
as
1:25:23
well.
1:25:24
And
1:25:24
they're
1:25:24
probably
1:25:25
not
1:25:25
a
1:25:25
team.
1:25:25
They
1:25:25
are
1:25:26
probably
1:25:26
a
1:25:26
team
1:25:26
you
1:25:27
will
1:25:27
hear
1:25:27
more
1:25:27
about,
1:25:27
as
1:25:28
Derek
1:25:28
alluded
1:25:29
to.
1:25:29
We'll
1:25:29
probably
1:25:29
cover.
1:25:30
I
1:25:30
think
1:25:30
we'll
1:25:30
definitely
1:25:30
do
1:25:31
final
1:25:31
game.
1:25:32
Yeah.
1:25:32
Yeah.
1:25:32
And
1:25:32
there's
1:25:32
probably
1:25:33
even
1:25:33
a
1:25:33
little
1:25:33
bit
1:25:34
more
1:25:34
to
1:25:34
get
1:25:34
into
1:25:34
in
1:25:34
that
1:25:34
91
1:25:35
tournament
1:25:36
as
1:25:36
a
1:25:36
whole.
1:25:38
And
1:25:38
I
1:25:38
have
1:25:39
a
1:25:39
really.
1:25:40
And
1:25:40
you.
1:25:40
Do
1:25:41
you
1:25:41
have.
1:25:41
I
1:25:41
think
1:25:41
you
1:25:41
have
1:25:42
to
1:25:42
know
1:25:42
this,
1:25:42
but
1:25:42
I
1:25:43
have
1:25:43
a
1:25:43
car
1:25:43
show
1:25:43
story.
1:25:44
I'm
1:25:44
gonna
1:25:44
share
1:25:45
that.
1:25:45
I'm
1:25:45
gonna
1:25:45
share
1:25:45
that
1:25:45
a
1:25:46
little
1:25:46
later
1:25:46
in
1:25:46
the
1:25:46
year
1:25:46
as
1:25:47
well,
1:25:47
because
1:25:47
it
1:25:47
does
1:25:47
tie
1:25:48
into
1:25:48
something
1:25:48
coming
1:25:49
up
1:25:49
later
1:25:49
on
1:25:49
in
1:25:49
1990,
1:25:50
so.
1:25:51
But
1:25:51
you're
1:25:51
right.
1:25:51
And
1:25:51
that
1:25:52
just
1:25:52
if
1:25:52
anyone's
1:25:54
one
1:25:54
either.
1:25:54
Because
1:25:55
my
1:25:55
congestion
1:25:55
makes
1:25:55
it
1:25:56
sound
1:25:56
like
1:25:56
I'm
1:25:56
saying
1:25:56
a
1:25:57
car
1:25:57
show.
1:25:57
Yeah.
1:25:58
Or
1:25:58
whatever.
1:25:58
These
1:25:58
are
1:25:59
baseball
1:25:59
cards
1:25:59
you're
1:25:59
talking
1:26:00
about.
1:26:00
Sports
1:26:00
cards
1:26:01
were
1:26:01
just
1:26:01
a
1:26:01
big
1:26:01
part
1:26:02
of
1:26:02
both
1:26:02
of
1:26:02
our
1:26:02
lives.
1:26:03
And,
1:26:04
Derek,
1:26:04
does
1:26:04
it
1:26:05
continue
1:26:05
to
1:26:05
be
1:26:05
a
1:26:05
big
1:26:05
part
1:26:05
of
1:26:06
your
1:26:06
life,
1:26:06
like
1:26:07
today?
1:26:07
Yeah.
1:26:08
Yeah.
1:26:08
I'm
1:26:08
thinking
1:26:08
about
1:26:08
going
1:26:09
the
1:26:09
one
1:26:09
this
1:26:09
weekend.
1:26:09
Really?
1:26:10
Yeah.
1:26:10
Who's
1:26:11
there?
1:26:11
James
1:26:12
Wood.
1:26:12
The
1:26:12
baseball
1:26:13
player?
1:26:13
Yes.
1:26:13
I
1:26:13
saw
1:26:14
that.
1:26:14
In
1:26:14
fact,
1:26:14
I
1:26:15
almost
1:26:15
took
1:26:15
a
1:26:15
screenshot
1:26:16
of
1:26:16
everyone
1:26:16
signing
1:26:17
and
1:26:17
sent
1:26:17
it
1:26:17
to
1:26:17
you
1:26:18
and
1:26:18
Alan
1:26:18
and
1:26:18
just
1:26:18
said,
1:26:19
who
1:26:19
would
1:26:19
be
1:26:19
your
1:26:20
top
1:26:20
priority
1:26:20
on
1:26:20
this
1:26:21
list?
1:26:21
And
1:26:21
I
1:26:21
kind
1:26:21
of
1:26:21
figured
1:26:22
it
1:26:22
would
1:26:22
be
1:26:22
James
1:26:22
Wood,
1:26:23
because
1:26:23
outside
1:26:23
of
1:26:24
him,
1:26:24
there's
1:26:25
not
1:26:25
a
1:26:25
ton
1:26:25
of.
1:26:26
It's
1:26:26
like
1:26:26
a
1:26:26
lot
1:26:26
of
1:26:27
older,
1:26:28
you
1:26:28
know,
1:26:29
offensive
1:26:29
lineman
1:26:30
from
1:26:30
the
1:26:30
Cowboys.
1:26:31
He's
1:26:31
not
1:26:31
charging
1:26:32
very
1:26:32
much
1:26:32
for
1:26:32
an
1:26:32
auto.
1:26:33
And
1:26:35
I
1:26:35
just
1:26:35
think
1:26:35
he's
1:26:35
gonna
1:26:36
be.
1:26:36
He's
1:26:37
gonna
1:26:37
be
1:26:37
the
1:26:37
guy
1:26:38
who
1:26:38
gets
1:26:39
dealt
1:26:39
or
1:26:39
signed
1:26:39
by
1:26:40
the
1:26:40
dog.
1:26:40
When
1:26:40
does
1:26:40
he
1:26:40
sign?
1:26:41
Saturday.
1:26:41
Yankees?
1:26:42
Yeah,
1:26:42
he
1:26:42
signs,
1:26:43
like,
1:26:43
Saturday.
1:26:43
It's
1:26:43
like
1:26:43
a
1:26:43
hundred
1:26:44
for,
1:26:44
like,
1:26:44
a
1:26:44
ball.
1:26:45
Really?
1:26:45
I
1:26:46
thought
1:26:46
that
1:26:46
if
1:26:46
you
1:26:46
do
1:26:46
that,
1:26:47
let
1:26:47
me
1:26:47
know.
1:26:47
Okay.
1:26:48
I
1:26:48
may
1:26:48
tag
1:26:48
along
1:26:48
or
1:26:49
drive
1:26:49
or
1:26:49
whatever.
1:26:50
Yeah,
1:26:50
I
1:26:50
feel
1:26:50
like
1:26:50
there's
1:26:51
something
1:26:51
going
1:26:51
on
1:26:52
Saturday.
1:26:52
He's
1:26:53
like,
1:26:53
yeah,
1:26:53
five.
1:26:53
I
1:26:53
think
1:26:54
yeah,
1:26:54
he's
1:26:54
gigantic.
1:26:55
Gigantic.
1:26:55
So
1:26:56
that'd
1:26:56
be
1:26:57
fun.
1:26:57
But
1:26:57
sports
1:26:57
cars
1:26:57
were
1:26:58
definitely
1:26:58
a
1:26:58
big
1:26:58
part.
1:26:58
And
1:26:58
I
1:26:58
was
1:26:58
gonna
1:26:59
even
1:26:59
say
1:26:59
that
1:26:59
on
1:26:59
the
1:26:59
LJ
1:27:00
Part,
1:27:00
like
1:27:01
how
1:27:01
there's
1:27:02
certain
1:27:02
cards
1:27:02
that
1:27:02
are
1:27:02
forever
1:27:03
etched
1:27:03
into
1:27:03
your
1:27:04
mind.
1:27:04
And
1:27:04
the
1:27:04
rookie
1:27:05
upper
1:27:05
deck
1:27:05
rookie
1:27:06
card
1:27:06
for
1:27:06
lj,
1:27:06
where
1:27:07
he's
1:27:07
kind
1:27:07
of
1:27:07
like,
1:27:07
got
1:27:07
the
1:27:08
Hornets
1:27:08
hat
1:27:09
on,
1:27:09
but
1:27:09
a
1:27:09
suit.
1:27:10
Yeah.
1:27:10
And
1:27:10
it's
1:27:10
like
1:27:11
he's
1:27:11
perched
1:27:11
on
1:27:11
the
1:27:11
edge
1:27:12
of
1:27:12
a.
1:27:12
It's
1:27:12
pinstripe,
1:27:13
isn't
1:27:13
it?
1:27:13
Yeah.
1:27:13
Yeah.
1:27:14
And
1:27:15
just.
1:27:15
That's
1:27:15
one
1:27:16
of
1:27:16
always
1:27:16
be
1:27:16
etched
1:27:17
into
1:27:17
my
1:27:17
mind.
1:27:17
But
1:27:18
this
1:27:18
was
1:27:18
a
1:27:18
lot
1:27:19
of
1:27:19
fun
1:27:19
today,
1:27:19
talking
1:27:19
about
1:27:19
unlv.
1:27:20
Derek,
1:27:21
let
1:27:21
me
1:27:21
ask
1:27:21
you
1:27:21
this,
1:27:21
though.
1:27:22
Yeah.
1:27:23
One
1:27:23
last
1:27:23
question
1:27:24
related
1:27:24
to
1:27:24
them.
1:27:25
Okay.
1:27:25
Are
1:27:26
they
1:27:26
the
1:27:26
most
1:27:27
90s
1:27:29
college
1:27:29
basketball
1:27:30
team
1:27:30
ever?
1:27:31
I
1:27:32
mean,
1:27:32
we're
1:27:32
gonna
1:27:32
have
1:27:32
this
1:27:32
debate
1:27:33
in
1:27:33
about
1:27:34
three
1:27:34
years
1:27:34
of
1:27:35
podcasts.
1:27:35
Yes.
1:27:36
When
1:27:36
we
1:27:36
talk
1:27:36
about
1:27:37
my
1:27:37
favorite
1:27:38
team
1:27:38
of
1:27:38
all
1:27:38
time,
1:27:39
which
1:27:39
was
1:27:39
the
1:27:39
Fab
1:27:39
Five
1:27:40
in
1:27:40
Michigan.
1:27:41
But
1:27:41
can
1:27:42
you
1:27:42
just
1:27:42
not
1:27:42
see
1:27:42
how
1:27:43
this
1:27:43
was
1:27:43
the
1:27:43
predecessor
1:27:44
to
1:27:44
that?
1:27:45
For
1:27:45
sure.
1:27:45
In
1:27:45
multiple
1:27:46
ways.
1:27:46
I
1:27:47
mean,
1:27:47
from
1:27:47
a
1:27:47
cultural
1:27:48
standpoint,
1:27:48
from
1:27:48
a
1:27:48
style
1:27:49
of
1:27:49
play
1:27:49
standpoint,
1:27:50
from
1:27:50
where.
1:27:50
We'Re
1:27:50
at
1:27:51
right
1:27:51
now
1:27:51
in
1:27:51
terms
1:27:52
of
1:27:52
collegiate
1:27:52
sports,
1:27:53
there's
1:27:53
an
1:27:53
absolute
1:27:53
through
1:27:54
line
1:27:54
that
1:27:54
is.
1:27:55
That
1:27:55
goes
1:27:55
through
1:27:55
UNLV
1:27:56
and
1:27:56
goes
1:27:57
through
1:27:57
the
1:27:57
Fab
1:27:57
Five.
1:27:58
Yes.
1:27:58
And.
1:27:59
And.
1:27:59
And
1:27:59
again,
1:28:00
I.
1:28:00
I
1:28:00
asked
1:28:01
that
1:28:01
question,
1:28:01
and
1:28:01
I'm
1:28:02
not
1:28:02
sure
1:28:02
if
1:28:02
I
1:28:02
would
1:28:02
even
1:28:02
say
1:28:03
they're
1:28:03
the
1:28:03
most
1:28:04
90s
1:28:04
team.
1:28:05
Right.
1:28:05
But
1:28:05
they
1:28:06
are
1:28:06
the
1:28:07
most
1:28:07
impactful
1:28:08
in
1:28:08
my
1:28:08
mind.
1:28:09
Okay.
1:28:09
Because
1:28:10
I
1:28:10
think
1:28:10
of
1:28:11
everything
1:28:11
that
1:28:11
comes
1:28:12
from
1:28:12
this
1:28:12
and
1:28:12
kind
1:28:13
of
1:28:13
how
1:28:13
it
1:28:13
goes,
1:28:14
and
1:28:14
even
1:28:14
beyond
1:28:15
the
1:28:15
team,
1:28:15
but
1:28:16
it
1:28:16
be
1:28:16
in.
1:28:17
But
1:28:17
even
1:28:17
beyond
1:28:18
the
1:28:18
team
1:28:18
style
1:28:19
of
1:28:19
play
1:28:19
and
1:28:19
the
1:28:19
culture,
1:28:19
but
1:28:20
also
1:28:20
just
1:28:20
everything
1:28:21
with
1:28:21
the
1:28:21
ncaa,
1:28:22
I
1:28:22
think
1:28:23
that
1:28:23
becomes
1:28:24
very
1:28:24
much
1:28:25
a
1:28:25
topic
1:28:25
throughout
1:28:26
the
1:28:26
90s
1:28:26
with
1:28:26
a
1:28:27
lot
1:28:27
of
1:28:27
teams
1:28:28
and
1:28:28
just
1:28:29
the
1:28:29
success
1:28:30
and.
1:28:30
And
1:28:30
kind
1:28:30
of
1:28:31
what
1:28:31
comes
1:28:31
from
1:28:31
that.
1:28:31
And
1:28:31
kind
1:28:32
of
1:28:32
these
1:28:33
players
1:28:33
like
1:28:34
LJ
1:28:34
that
1:28:35
then
1:28:35
went
1:28:35
to
1:28:35
the
1:28:35
NBA
1:28:36
and
1:28:36
just
1:28:36
had
1:28:36
this
1:28:37
Persona
1:28:38
attached
1:28:38
to
1:28:38
them
1:28:39
that
1:28:39
was
1:28:39
so
1:28:39
big,
1:28:40
you
1:28:40
know,
1:28:41
something
1:28:41
we
1:28:41
would
1:28:41
see
1:28:42
in
1:28:42
the
1:28:42
80s
1:28:42
to
1:28:43
some
1:28:43
degree,
1:28:43
but
1:28:43
not
1:28:43
quite
1:28:44
at
1:28:44
the
1:28:44
same
1:28:45
level.
1:28:45
And
1:28:45
again,
1:28:46
a
1:28:46
lot
1:28:46
of
1:28:46
that
1:28:46
probably
1:28:46
has
1:28:47
to
1:28:47
do
1:28:47
with
1:28:48
the
1:28:48
level
1:28:48
of
1:28:48
media
1:28:49
at
1:28:49
that
1:28:49
point
1:28:49
was
1:28:50
far
1:28:50
greater.
1:28:51
You
1:28:51
know,
1:28:51
like
1:28:51
you
1:28:52
said,
1:28:52
we
1:28:52
had
1:28:53
ESPN
1:28:54
probably
1:28:54
7
1:28:54
by
1:28:55
the
1:28:55
time
1:28:56
LJ
1:28:56
gets
1:28:56
there
1:28:56
or
1:28:57
whatever,
1:28:57
but
1:28:57
nonetheless.
1:28:58
So
1:28:59
fun.
1:28:59
Fun
1:29:00
thing
1:29:00
to
1:29:00
ponder,
1:29:00
though,
1:29:01
because
1:29:01
there
1:29:01
are
1:29:01
some
1:29:01
really
1:29:01
great
1:29:01
ones
1:29:02
throughout
1:29:02
the
1:29:02
90s.
1:29:02
And
1:29:03
then
1:29:03
I
1:29:03
guess
1:29:03
my
1:29:04
only
1:29:04
other
1:29:04
question,
1:29:04
Derek,
1:29:05
would
1:29:05
be,
1:29:05
what
1:29:05
are
1:29:05
we
1:29:05
going
1:29:05
to
1:29:05
do
1:29:05
next?
1:29:07
Well,
1:29:07
I
1:29:08
would
1:29:08
really
1:29:08
urge
1:29:09
anybody
1:29:09
that's
1:29:09
interested
1:29:10
in
1:29:10
this
1:29:10
to
1:29:10
go
1:29:11
look
1:29:11
at
1:29:11
the
1:29:11
YouTube
1:29:12
account,
1:29:12
MLB
1:29:13
Vault.
1:29:14
It's
1:29:15
they,
1:29:16
they
1:29:16
put
1:29:17
pristine
1:29:17
copies
1:29:18
of
1:29:18
old
1:29:18
MLB
1:29:19
games
1:29:19
up
1:29:20
and
1:29:20
they,
1:29:21
two
1:29:21
weeks
1:29:22
ago
1:29:22
they
1:29:22
put
1:29:22
up
1:29:23
Nolan
1:29:23
Ryan
1:29:24
sixth
1:29:24
no
1:29:24
hitter
1:29:25
against
1:29:25
the
1:29:26
Oakland
1:29:26
A's
1:29:26
who
1:29:27
would
1:29:27
later
1:29:27
go
1:29:27
on
1:29:28
to
1:29:28
play
1:29:28
your
1:29:29
Cincinnati
1:29:30
Reds
1:29:30
in
1:29:30
that
1:29:31
World
1:29:31
Series.
1:29:31
Yeah.
1:29:32
And
1:29:33
they
1:29:33
are
1:29:33
absolutely
1:29:34
stacked.
1:29:35
But
1:29:35
43
1:29:36
year
1:29:36
old
1:29:36
Nolan
1:29:37
Ryan
1:29:38
takes
1:29:38
the
1:29:38
mound
1:29:39
at
1:29:39
Oakland
1:29:40
Coliseum
1:29:41
and
1:29:41
puts
1:29:41
together
1:29:42
a
1:29:42
masterpiece.
1:29:43
So
1:29:44
we
1:29:44
have
1:29:45
talked
1:29:45
kind
1:29:46
of
1:29:46
about,
1:29:47
we've
1:29:47
got
1:29:47
two
1:29:48
events
1:29:48
but
1:29:48
we've
1:29:48
kind
1:29:49
of
1:29:49
talked
1:29:49
about
1:29:49
everything
1:29:49
around
1:29:50
those
1:29:50
events.
1:29:51
This
1:29:51
podcast,
1:29:52
we're
1:29:52
just
1:29:52
going
1:29:52
to
1:29:53
go
1:29:53
through
1:29:55
the
1:29:55
game
1:29:56
and
1:29:57
we're
1:29:57
just
1:29:57
going
1:29:57
to
1:29:57
talk
1:29:57
about
1:29:58
the
1:29:58
game
1:29:58
because
1:29:59
there's
1:29:59
so
1:29:59
much
1:29:59
there
1:30:00
to
1:30:00
chew
1:30:01
on.
1:30:02
I
1:30:02
love
1:30:02
those
1:30:03
Oakland
1:30:03
A's,
1:30:04
I
1:30:04
love
1:30:04
Nolan
1:30:05
Ryan.
1:30:05
It's
1:30:06
like,
1:30:06
it's
1:30:06
just
1:30:06
a,
1:30:07
it's
1:30:07
a
1:30:07
peanut
1:30:07
butter
1:30:08
and
1:30:08
jelly
1:30:08
sandwich
1:30:09
of
1:30:09
deliciousness.
1:30:10
So
1:30:10
an
1:30:10
opposite
1:30:11
approach
1:30:11
to
1:30:11
this
1:30:11
and
1:30:11
that.
1:30:12
We're
1:30:12
not
1:30:12
going
1:30:12
to
1:30:12
talk
1:30:12
about
1:30:12
Nolan
1:30:13
Ryan's
1:30:13
childhood
1:30:14
or
1:30:14
any
1:30:15
of
1:30:15
that.
1:30:15
This
1:30:16
is
1:30:16
about,
1:30:16
we're
1:30:16
going
1:30:16
to
1:30:16
talk.
1:30:17
About
1:30:17
just
1:30:17
the
1:30:17
game
1:30:18
because
1:30:18
he's
1:30:19
43
1:30:20
and
1:30:20
he
1:30:20
just,
1:30:21
just
1:30:21
summons
1:30:21
the
1:30:22
gods
1:30:22
for,
1:30:22
you
1:30:23
know,
1:30:23
one
1:30:23
more
1:30:23
time.
1:30:24
Yeah,
1:30:24
of
1:30:24
course
1:30:24
he'll
1:30:25
do
1:30:25
it
1:30:25
again.
1:30:25
You
1:30:26
have
1:30:26
a
1:30:26
seventh
1:30:26
no
1:30:26
hitter.
1:30:27
Exactly.
1:30:27
But
1:30:27
there's
1:30:27
something
1:30:28
wrong.
1:30:28
Really
1:30:28
fun
1:30:30
about
1:30:30
the
1:30:30
broadcast.
1:30:31
So
1:30:31
in,
1:30:31
in,
1:30:32
in
1:30:33
advancement
1:30:33
of
1:30:34
the,
1:30:34
of
1:30:34
the
1:30:34
pod.
1:30:35
Go
1:30:35
check
1:30:35
out
1:30:35
that
1:30:36
game
1:30:36
on
1:30:36
MLB
1:30:37
Vault
1:30:37
is
1:30:37
the
1:30:37
account.
1:30:38
I
1:30:38
can't
1:30:38
wait.
1:30:39
And
1:30:39
you
1:30:39
told
1:30:39
me
1:30:39
about
1:30:39
this
1:30:40
a
1:30:40
couple
1:30:40
days
1:30:40
ago
1:30:40
at
1:30:40
least
1:30:41
MLV
1:30:41
the
1:30:41
vault.
1:30:42
And
1:30:42
I've
1:30:43
thought
1:30:43
about
1:30:43
it
1:30:44
numerous
1:30:44
times
1:30:44
just
1:30:45
because
1:30:45
I
1:30:45
love,
1:30:45
you
1:30:46
know,
1:30:46
that's,
1:30:46
you
1:30:47
know,
1:30:47
you
1:30:47
talk
1:30:47
about
1:30:47
why
1:30:47
are
1:30:48
we
1:30:48
even
1:30:48
doing
1:30:48
this
1:30:48
podcast?
1:30:49
I
1:30:49
just
1:30:50
love
1:30:50
going
1:30:50
back
1:30:50
and
1:30:50
watching
1:30:51
all
1:30:51
this
1:30:51
stuff,
1:30:52
you
1:30:52
know,
1:30:52
and
1:30:52
it's
1:30:52
phenomenal.
1:30:53
The
1:30:53
most
1:30:54
enjoyable
1:30:54
part
1:30:54
of
1:30:55
doing
1:30:55
this.
1:30:55
And
1:30:56
the
1:30:56
time
1:30:56
capsule
1:30:56
kind
1:30:57
of
1:30:57
that
1:30:57
each
1:30:57
of
1:30:57
these
1:30:57
broadcasts
1:30:58
are
1:30:58
just
1:30:59
of
1:30:59
like
1:31:00
beyond
1:31:00
the
1:31:00
game
1:31:01
and
1:31:01
the,
1:31:01
and
1:31:01
the
1:31:02
athletes
1:31:02
and
1:31:02
the
1:31:03
outcomes.
1:31:03
But
1:31:04
just
1:31:04
looking
1:31:04
into
1:31:05
the
1:31:05
stands
1:31:05
and
1:31:06
looking
1:31:06
at
1:31:06
the
1:31:06
people
1:31:07
around
1:31:07
it
1:31:07
and
1:31:07
kind
1:31:07
of
1:31:08
how
1:31:08
we
1:31:08
went
1:31:08
about
1:31:08
it
1:31:08
and
1:31:08
how
1:31:09
we
1:31:09
refuse
1:31:10
to
1:31:10
put
1:31:10
the
1:31:10
score
1:31:10
on
1:31:10
the
1:31:11
screen
1:31:11
very
1:31:11
often.
1:31:12
You
1:31:12
know,
1:31:12
stuff
1:31:12
like
1:31:13
that.
1:31:13
It's
1:31:14
all
1:31:14
fun
1:31:14
stuff.
1:31:14
Well,
1:31:15
that's
1:31:15
what,
1:31:15
what's
1:31:15
great
1:31:16
about
1:31:16
this
1:31:16
is
1:31:16
that
1:31:16
the
1:31:16
copies
1:31:17
are
1:31:17
pristine.
1:31:17
You
1:31:18
know,
1:31:18
we
1:31:18
kind
1:31:18
of
1:31:18
had
1:31:18
to
1:31:18
fight
1:31:18
through
1:31:19
two
1:31:19
rough
1:31:20
kind
1:31:20
of
1:31:20
copies
1:31:21
of
1:31:21
the
1:31:21
things
1:31:21
that
1:31:21
we've
1:31:22
done.
1:31:23
Like
1:31:23
the,
1:31:23
the
1:31:24
copy
1:31:24
of
1:31:24
this
1:31:24
game
1:31:25
is
1:31:25
absolutely
1:31:26
pristine.
1:31:26
Yes.
1:31:27
And
1:31:27
the,
1:31:28
the
1:31:28
audio's
1:31:29
good.
1:31:29
There's
1:31:29
no
1:31:29
clipping
1:31:30
and
1:31:30
it's
1:31:30
just,
1:31:31
it's,
1:31:32
it's,
1:31:32
it
1:31:32
was
1:31:33
so
1:31:33
enjoyable
1:31:34
just
1:31:34
on
1:31:35
a,
1:31:35
a
1:31:36
Tuesday
1:31:36
night
1:31:36
to
1:31:36
just
1:31:37
watch
1:31:37
the
1:31:37
game
1:31:37
because
1:31:38
it's
1:31:38
done
1:31:38
so
1:31:39
well.
1:31:39
Well,
1:31:39
I
1:31:39
can't
1:31:40
wait
1:31:40
for
1:31:40
that.
1:31:40
That'll
1:31:40
be
1:31:41
fun.
1:31:41
So
1:31:41
that's
1:31:41
what's
1:31:42
coming
1:31:42
up
1:31:42
next.
1:31:42
But
1:31:43
this
1:31:43
will
1:31:43
wrap
1:31:44
it
1:31:44
up
1:31:44
then
1:31:44
for
1:31:44
this
1:31:44
episode
1:31:45
of
1:31:45
the
1:31:45
90s
1:31:46
sports
1:31:46
mixtape.
1:31:47
Again,
1:31:47
we
1:31:47
are
1:31:48
part
1:31:48
of
1:31:48
the
1:31:49
Sports
1:31:49
History
1:31:49
Network.
1:31:50
You
1:31:50
can
1:31:50
learn
1:31:50
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1:31:50
about
1:31:51
us
1:31:52
or
1:31:52
about
1:31:52
the
1:31:52
network@sportshistorynetwork.com
1:31:55
do
1:31:55
we
1:31:55
have
1:31:55
any
1:31:56
sponsors
1:31:56
that
1:31:56
we.
1:31:56
We
1:31:57
do
1:31:57
have
1:31:57
some
1:31:57
sponsors,
1:31:58
but
1:31:58
we're
1:31:58
going
1:31:58
to
1:31:58
do
1:31:58
them
1:31:59
justice
1:31:59
and
1:31:59
we're
1:31:59
going
1:31:59
to
1:32:00
fit
1:32:00
it
1:32:00
in
1:32:00
right
1:32:00
in
1:32:00
the
1:32:01
middle
1:32:01
this
1:32:01
time
1:32:01
or
1:32:02
something.
1:32:02
So
1:32:03
want
1:32:03
to
1:32:03
thank
1:32:04
all
1:32:04
of
1:32:04
our
1:32:04
sponsors,
1:32:04
though,
1:32:05
that
1:32:05
are
1:32:05
are
1:32:06
part
1:32:06
of
1:32:06
the
1:32:06
Sports
1:32:06
History
1:32:07
Network
1:32:07
and
1:32:07
really
1:32:07
want
1:32:08
to
1:32:08
thank
1:32:08
the
1:32:08
Sports
1:32:08
History
1:32:09
Network
1:32:09
for
1:32:09
just
1:32:09
kind
1:32:10
of
1:32:10
welcoming
1:32:10
us
1:32:11
with
1:32:11
open
1:32:11
arms.
1:32:12
Definitely
1:32:12
go
1:32:12
out
1:32:12
there
1:32:12
if
1:32:13
you
1:32:13
have
1:32:13
interest
1:32:13
in
1:32:13
doing
1:32:14
something
1:32:14
like
1:32:14
what
1:32:14
we're
1:32:14
doing
1:32:15
right
1:32:15
now
1:32:15
or
1:32:15
finding
1:32:16
other
1:32:16
podcasts
1:32:17
that
1:32:17
are
1:32:18
covering
1:32:19
sports
1:32:19
history.
1:32:20
That's
1:32:20
where
1:32:20
you
1:32:21
start
1:32:21
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1:32:22
so
1:32:23
go
1:32:23
check
1:32:23
it
1:32:23
out.
1:32:23
But
1:32:24
until
1:32:24
next
1:32:24
time,
1:32:24
this
1:32:25
is
1:32:25
Scott
1:32:25
signing
1:32:26
off.
1:32:26
I
1:32:27
am
1:32:28
excited
1:32:28
about
1:32:29
Nolan
1:32:29
Ryan,
1:32:30
everybody.
1:32:30
Have
1:32:30
a
1:32:30
great
1:32:31
day.
1:32:31
Yeah,
1:32:31
have
1:32:31
a
1:32:32
good
1:32:32
one,
1:32:32
guys.
1:32:32
Thanks,
1:32:36
Sam.