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Wall St Legend's NEXT MASSIVE Bitcoin prediction!! [Full Breakdown] | EP 1204 · Simply Bitcoin

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  Yo, an old school Wall Street trader who just predicted
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  exactly what the Bitcoin price would be on the 14th of March
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  from 5 months ago is now making an even more interesting
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  prediction. I mean he hit the nail on the
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  head. He said exactly the date, he
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  said exactly the price, and this was like 6 months ago.
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  It was absolutely surreal. Could this be the new Bitcoin
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  Nissan algae? We're going to talk about it.
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  He is now predicting A440K Bitcoin in the not too distant
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  future and is making the case that we're watching a once in
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  100 year event today. We're going to be breaking down
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  this bold prediction, whether it's true, whether it's BS where
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  the Bitcoin Twitter is just completely tired and bored and
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  they're just tired of the chip solidation have something they
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  need something to talk about. We're going to be talking about
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  all of that. We're going to be unpacking it.
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  It's going to be a great show, but before we jump into it,
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  smash the like button. I'm going to bring up Opti.
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  I'm going to bring up our guest Muzman.
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  I'm going to bring up our other guests, Mateo Muzman from
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  lightning ventures. Of course, Mateo from the orange
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  pull up. All right, everybody, no more
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  delay. Let's jump straight into today's
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  news. So what am I talking about?
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  I mean, this was this was pretty crazy.
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  I mean, you know, the saying comes into play, right?
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  A a broken clock is right twice or something, something along
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  those lines. So I mean, this could be
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  absolute luck, but it could also be something deeper.
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  I don't know, who knows? So this was from November 5th of
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  2024. This is Josh Mandel.
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  Josh Mandel, apparently, you know, you never know whether
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  something's true online or not. He's an he's an ex Wall Street
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  trader from Salomon Brothers. But it gets really crazy so
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  check it out and it's all cryptic and stuff.
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  It's kind of strange. So he says.
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  I hope that I have established a little credibility with a few of
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  you so that this will help. This time is different.
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  The 4th turning is upon us. Thursday 1171162531425 When 84
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  becomes the base Bitcoin calls will melt their face.
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  This is how you get ahead by I bit calls in size instead. 12:50
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  You'll ride it up the stock. It soars into the skies.
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  Don't sell the call and exercise.
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  See the path of Pistol Pete. Try a slug and then repeat.
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  Look every day at close and Lowe's.
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  When 84 is on the dot, the car will launch a real whole shot.
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  Feel the GS, hear the roar. The coin won't stop 360 more.
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  A trio force times a grand. That's the top.
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  The BTC fades. This is how a cowboy trades a
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  nation state down by the sea. I think I'd call it empathy.
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  No room for hate nor jealousy. Essentials.
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  They would be on me. Working if you want, but just
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  for fun. Think in the shade, play in the
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  sun. I mean, like, what the what the
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  F right? Normally you'd be like, OK, this
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  is this is cuckoo, this is crazy.
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  But the Bitcoin price on March 14th, 2025 was exactly, I think
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  it closed that day at exactly $84,000.
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  And of course, all of Bitcoin Twitter is absolutely using
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  their minds. He follows up this original poem
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  slash post with MSTR N guys here's the path to 10X multiple
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  the the liquidity I bit calls will offer Sailor would be
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  amazing. All they have to do is get the
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  new SEC chair to authorize redemption in kind so that he
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  could use the ETF to lever himself up from 84 K to 444 K,
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  then take his coin. Kind of cryptic, little bit
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  interesting. Obviously the dude becomes an
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  overnight celebrity and he follows up with some of his
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  latest posts he said. So here's the way I remember the
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  rules working. close between 80K and 84K means the rally can
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  continue from here, probably up to 100K by month end.
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  So essentially he's saying that he expects the Bitcoin price can
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  be at 100K by the end of the month.
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  Who knows if it closes at 84 K exactly.
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  We run the table, historical, historic moves.
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  Above 84 K, we slip back down and the rally fails.
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  I didn't really make up these rules.
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  It's been many years, but this is what I recall.
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  Good luck. Then, he continues.
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  This was back in December. I bring to the community decades
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  of mistakes survived, and I hope this experience will assist a
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  younger generation in their quest to achieve the American
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  dream. Please, I ask you to never
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  forget those who need. I mean, he's rhyming.
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  He's kind of interesting. Here is Luke Broyles and he's
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  responding. He's quote posting.
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  He says now that you are Luke, I'm going to own this.
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  Why is nobody talking about 440, four, 144,402 and 75 cents?
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  I think he's referring obviously referencing to his Bitcoin price
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  prediction and the last couple of days he's just been
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  absolutely, you know, just going ham on Giovanni, which was
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  another Bitcoin lease on Al Gaib, right?
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  You know, the power law, the plan C.
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  This is just I guess this is like a Plan B some some type of
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  S type of thing. But he says back to two hours
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  ago, he said, sorry, Giovanni, I have no idea.
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  You were so unpopular as to get 501 likes in half an hour.
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  Power law was observed, not created by Giovanni.
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  Plan C, on the other hand, created the quantile model.
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  I live in Giovanni's head down by the river.
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  I mean, it's pretty crazy. He's he's definitely throwing
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  beef. And here's one of the latest
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  things he said. OK, so here it goes.
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  I have been somewhat vague and have attempted make these latest
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  predictions seem like they could be explained by some system or
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  knowledge of markets. This is not true.
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  The truth is that I have a very specific prediction based on
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  memories of something that happened 30 years ago combined
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  with thoughts which seem ever present in my mind.
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  If Bitcoin were to close at 84 K on March 14th, it will run the
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  table. I'm not certain what that means.
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  I have a couple thoughts, but there's no point unless somehow
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  it actually closes at 84 K. The truth is that I am becoming
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  convinced that it may well do just that and that the
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  impossible odds of such a thing occurring that I will have some
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  explaining to do. If this occurs, I will likely
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  take the rest of the month off and reach out to family members
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  to let them know what I'm planning to reveal.
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  Believe me, I hope I am wrong about this because some people
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  are definitely going to view me as mentally ill if they are non
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  believers or Oh my God, I don't even know what to say.
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  But this is what I got to say. I'm going to end it with this.
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  This the new Lisan al gaib. I don't know.
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  Let us know down in the comments if you guys believe Josh
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  Mandel's the new Lisan al gaib. I mean, the prediction is is
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  kind of crazy like I don't know what to say like it is it is
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  pretty. It is pretty jarring that he got
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  it so accurate, but again, people can get lucky.
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  I also want to give a shout out to the live stream.
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  If you guys are enjoying the show so far, make sure to smash
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  that like button want to give a shout out to the rubble audience
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  and of course, the YouTube audience.
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  Opti, is rumble working? I don't think it's working my
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  friend. Let me see.
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  Yeah, I guess there's a glitch on Rumble right now.
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  Yeah, it's trying to send. Anyways, I do want to bring.
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  I do want to bring in Muzz, man. Muzz.
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  What do you think about this, bro?
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  I mean it, it was making the rounds on X, you know, over the
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  weekend, everyone was losing their minds that this is the new
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  prophet. What?
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  What? What do you think?
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  What are your thoughts? It's remarkable that it was that
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  close, you know, And you know, the rhyming is great.
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  You know it's very Q and on, but you know what was the the
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  timeline for the 444 K? Is that just sometime this year
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  or is there more detail on an exact time for that?
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  I think he just said top 4444. He said triple fours is the top.
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  So some people have been saying super cycle 2026, but I think
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  he's saying it's the top of this cycle 2025.
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  So I tried to find that information this morning, but as
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  of now we're just going to go 444K top maybe end of 2025,
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  beginning of 2026. So take some profits around
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  444,000. Yeah, apparently, apparently
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  that's the that's, that's what needs to happen.
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  But I mean, it is, it is, it is pretty crazy.
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  People can get lucky. But I mean, to get lucky to that
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  extent, you know, obviously is, is very, very interesting to say
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  the least. Mateo, I don't know if you were
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  on X this weekend, but this is this is the current thing that
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  Bitcoiners have been talking about.
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  Do you have any thoughts? Any commentary?
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  I am an XI am on X more than Elon Musk.
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  So the answer is yes. But I mean, I had never heard of
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  this guy before. And then everybody is talking
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  about this guy. I'm like, OK, here we go.
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  You know, I guess you can get lucky.
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  So I start looking into this guy's tweets, right?
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  And, you know, he has a style of very interesting style of
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  tweeting. And what was remarkable for me
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  is that he was insisting that is not about 84 K on that day,
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  which is already, you know, hard to predict.
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  He was like, no, no, no, no, no. For the prophecy to be true, the
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  closing should be exactly 84 K And it was so like, now, you
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  know, you have to pay attention to the close.
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  And I mean, I don't believe in this stuff personally, but it
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  was exactly $84,000 on the close.
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  And it makes me think, right, what is this guy's all about?
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  I don't know if you guys saw the news about the latest news about
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  Josh Mandel. It was that he was arrested once
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  for drugs dealing, which explains a lot.
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  But I mean, I'll take 444 K anytime.
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  So if he's right, I mean, it's better for all of us, right?
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  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so I want to, I want to
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  double back on that idea because I think a lot of people were
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  expecting Bitcoin to be a lot higher by now.
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  I think a lot of people were like, Oh my God, you know,
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  Bitcoin should be at 120 a 130K it's at it's at 80 KA.
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  Lot of people had expectations based on the previous cycles.
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  If you compare the previous cycles performance compared to
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  this cycle, it's definitely a little bit underwhelming.
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  I think a lot of people were expecting that, obviously
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  because of diminishing returns. So I'm going to pass it on to
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  you. Ma is like, has Bitcoin become
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  boring? Is it just becoming like it's
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  like, is Bitcoin just becoming like watching the SNP?
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  No, not at all. And you know what else happened
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  this cycle? You had the you had the all time
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  high before the halving. That was pretty unique.
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  You know, for the first time ever, we have a a pro Bitcoin
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  president in office. We were chatting a little bit a
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  while ago. You know, anyone who says it's
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  boring right now, you know, Ross is free.
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  We have a, a, a Bitcoin president in office.
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  We have a a crypto czar, a very friendly administration people
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  in the cabinet, you know, admittedly with, you know,
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  hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin.
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  I mean it's it's bright orange future, right, it's blue skies
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  ahead. I mean this is the most exciting
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  time, the last few years being a Bitcoin start up, especially
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  here in the USI mean it was nearly impossible to operate.
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  I mean, they did everything in their power with Operation Choke
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  .2 Point O where you couldn't even in some cases have like an
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  operating account when you're running a perfectly legitimate
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  United States domiciled Bitcoin startup.
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  So now it's another another tune and a lot of our companies are
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  making headway with banks and partnerships and I think we're
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  just going to see a flood of amazing products come out there.
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  We also just had fold IPO, which is super exciting as the first,
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  you know, Bitcoin only, I guess startup that's traded that's not
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  a minor and ASIC manufacturer. So I mean, there's never a dull
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  moment in Bitcoin truly. So certainly not now.
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  Absolutely 100%. I do want to give a shout out to
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  the stream. Almost 500 people watching live
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  on YouTube smash that like button.
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  If you guys are enjoying the show so far, I want to pass it
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  on to Mateo. Mateo, you've been in the
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  industry for a quite a long time now you have a successful
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  Bitcoin start up. What are your thoughts man?
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  Has Bitcoin become boring? Has has are Bitcoin's best days
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  behind them. I don't think Bitcoin will ever
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  be boring. Honestly, I don't think there's
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  going to be a time where Bitcoin will be boring and definitely
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  not now. I think maybe back in, so I got
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  in like 20/17/2018. It was more of a Wild West.
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  Like things were like crazier than now.
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  Now again, as must say, we have a president, they're literally
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  having meet ups at the White House, right?
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  And so that's a different, we're definitely in a different
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  environment now than even like two years ago.
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  I think this is like when you look at the the conditions on
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  the ground, I don't think you could ask for anything better
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  than now. Literally like you know, you
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  have the ETF, you have Michael Silver buying like, you know,
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  like it's 1999, You have, you know, the president, you have
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  the Bitcoin strategic reserve. I think maybe now we're like
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  people are a little bit disappointed with the price
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  because because you know, we had higher expectations, right?
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  You had the you have the future and then the future is a little
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  bit less than what you thought and then you get disappointed.
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  But I think if you go back, so if you go back one year ago and
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  I would tell you, hey man, in one year we're going to have a
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  pro become president, a peak on strategic reserve ETF.
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  Michael Saylor buying like crazy.
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  You say, no, wait, it's impossible.
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  It's like a dream. You're crazy, right?
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  And but here we are. So yeah, I don't think it's
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  boring. I think just, you know, it's a
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  moment where, you know, we're reassessing the expectations
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  maybe. But I think fireworks are
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  probably around the corners. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Let's talk about that too, by the way.
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  And again, shout out to the live stream.
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  Also almost 1000 live viewers across all platforms.
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  If you guys are enjoying the show, smash that like button.
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  Well we broke 100 likes on YouTube already Help us break
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  200 likes within the 1st 30 minutes of the show.
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  Almost 500 of you guys watching live.
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  Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to muz.
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  We got this a huge announcement from the White House.
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  The White House is posting from their ex account. the United
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  States is going to be the Bitcoin capital of the world.
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  You know, you had a historic moment where Trump at the White
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  House is basically saying like, you know, they say don't sell
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  your bitcoins. And what did the price do?
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  The price dumped on that news, right?
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  You'd be thinking, and you're like, Oh my God, the most
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  powerful country, the wealthiest and most powerful country on the
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  face of the planet just told the entire world they're bullish on
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  Bitcoin. They plan to buy Bitcoin.
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  There was news that leaked out of the White House on Friday
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  that essentially the White House is signaling that they have
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  every intention to acquire more Bitcoin.
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  They have to say in a budget neutral way.
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  But I mean, you would think, you know, that would send the price
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  to the moon. Why has the price dumped?
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  Did the market the market already priced this in?
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  What's your take, Moz? Well, it's frustrating, right?
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  There's so much positive news and when you don't see it
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  immediately reflected in the price, you know, all of a sudden
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  in manipulation, you know, as if you know they really care about
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  you know, the three grand in in your E*Trade account that
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  they're manipulating on you. But buy the rumor, sell the
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  news. You know, that old maybe, maybe
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  that's a part of it. Maybe there are some games being
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  played, you know, with the options.
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  Is it Wall Street's little tool now?
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  There's probably a lot of people who really don't mind lower
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  Bitcoin prices when they're in a huge, you know, accumulation
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  phase. So maybe it's just the last
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  shake out. You know, maybe it's one more
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  sort of flush. Maybe that's what this move was
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  down to 77 or 78. Maybe it's one more flush and
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  then we start seeing the price really melt everyone's faces
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  off. I mean, that's really what I'm
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  expecting. But it's also you got to look at
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  like the global breadth of the indexes.
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  You know, I think the NASDAQ shed, I don't know, 3 1/2 to 5%
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  in a day. I mean, that's a massive move.
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  I mean, they're just seeing trillions, you know, erased from
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  equities and other markets. So, you know, Bitcoin still a
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  risk on asset, even though for us the risk is Fiat, right?
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  The risk is not having any Bitcoin.
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  But for a lot of people that are out there, it's another story.
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  And you have a lot of people who got into Bitcoin through ETFs
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  and, you know, they're not exactly a seasoned toddler.
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  So maybe there's a little bit of that.
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  But you know, it's just another good time to really stack and
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  accumulate and build your position, get to that number
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  that you've always had as a bitcoiner.
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  Everyone wants a number and now is the time to get there before
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  we get to 444,000. Yeah, man, I think it'll be out
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  of grass, out of grass for most, most people just to acquire 1
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  full coin. I feel like it's out of the
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  grass for most people right now, $80,000 is, is a tremendous
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  amount of money. Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
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  to Mateo. Mateo, what's your take on this?
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  Are you overwhelmed? Are you underwhelmed with this
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  current bull market, especially with the white, the, the news
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  coming out of the White House? I mean, the talk of the
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  strategic Bitcoin reserve, you as a Bitcoin entrepreneur, the
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  end of Operation Choke point 2.0.
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  I mean, I thought we all, we all thought we were going to go to
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  jail last year. We were all going to get sent to
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  the gulag. But you know it, it seems like
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  the political landscape definitely cleared up.
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  What's your take, Mateo? I can tell you for a fact that
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  personal and so in our case, Orange fly, we have so we just
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  launched a wallet, right? And I people have told me, oh,
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  this app should have a wallet. This app since we launched,
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  which is back in 2022. And I was almost I almost built
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  it at some point. And then I was about to launch
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  it last summertime. And that's when the like the FBI
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  notice came out, you know, surf custody, you know, it's illegal,
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  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, OK, we're not
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  launching the wallet because I don't want to hire more lawyers
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  and developers. And the moment that Trump won
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  the election, I told my developers, OK, the first thing
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  we do now, as soon as he gets in office, we're launching the
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  wallet. So without a doubt, I've been
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  the administration being even if it's not super pro Bitcoin,
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  which I think it is, but if they just leave us alone, you know,
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  really all Bitcoiners want is to be left alone.
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  And you know, and so that we can build the infrastructure, we can
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  build the, you know, all the service that are going to take
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  us to Bitcoin being more adopted.
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  And so yeah, I mean, having a pro Bitcoin president, pro crypt
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  or whatever you want to call it, it's it's it's especially if
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  you're AUS company with US investors, you know, you live in
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  the US, it's definitely a game changer.
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  And you know, we're going to build so many stuff that
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  honestly, if Kamal had won, we, we wouldn't have built.
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  So when people say, you know, it's, it's always funny to say,
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  well, elections don't matter. Bitcoin doesn't care.
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  I mean, maybe Bitcoin doesn't care, but the people that use
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  Bitcoin that might be arrested, you know, they probably care
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  about not getting arrested. And you know the beauty to build
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  all this stuff, you know, like it's better.
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  You know, it's like, do you want to build an Internet company in
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  the US or in like North Korea or Iran, right?
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  Like obviously you want to do in the US because it's more pro
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  Internet, pro online companies. And I think the same is going to
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  be like in 20 years from now or 10 years from now, we're going
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  to look back and say, Hey, you built AUS company, a Bitcoin
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  U.S. company, which was better than building 1, let's say in
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  France or Europe, you know, where all these crazy rules.
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  And maybe now we don't see yet because it's just playing out.
• 20:46
  But I think in 5-10 years we're going to look back and say, Oh
• 20:49
  yeah, that was a game changer for the for the Bitcoin
• 20:51
  industry. So yeah, I'm very the price is
• 20:55
  the price, you know, the price is the price.
• 20:57
  You know, if you've been in Bitcoin for years like we all
• 20:59
  have, you're used to like the price not doing what you want it
• 21:03
  to do. Like back in 2021, right?
• 21:06
  We also 100 KA 100 K never happened.
• 21:12
  We used to say, wow, you're never gonna go below the
• 21:14
  previous old time high. I don't know if you guys
• 21:16
  remembered that, which was like 20,000 and sure enough, 16 K.
• 21:22
  And so I will say like don't worry too much about the price.
• 21:26
  Bitcoin is gonna go off forever and you know, just hold for the
• 21:30
  long run. You know, don't don't be swayed
• 21:33
  by the like the two minutes candle of the one day candle.
• 21:37
  Absolutely noise. 100% focus on the signal.
• 21:40
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• 21:58
  Anyways, I'm going to pass it on to Opti.
• 22:00
  Opti, you've been building this out from building this out with
• 22:03
  me over the last couple of years my friend.
• 22:05
  How is the price right now under your expectations, above your
• 22:09
  expectations? I mean, is Bitcoin becoming
• 22:11
  boring? Are we going to have to rebrand
• 22:13
  to simply Fiat for things to get more exciting?
• 22:16
  Opti, what's your take? Well, I was telling you this
• 22:19
  morning and I've been saying it for a couple of I'm, I'm on the
• 22:22
  fence here. I'm, I am, I think what we're
• 22:25
  seeing right now might be kind of like the the last bear trap,
• 22:28
  the last shake out before it does run kind of still following
• 22:31
  the old cycles of, you know, 2013 20/17/2021.
• 22:36
  There's always kind of one last bear trap before it starts
• 22:40
  pumping. And it does seem to be following
• 22:42
  exactly that, like Wall Street psychology chart that, you know,
• 22:45
  everyone flips around on Twitter.
• 22:47
  That does seem to be playing out.
• 22:49
  Obviously 2020's hindsight. So we'll know towards the end of
• 22:52
  the year if that's playing out. Though my gut feeling, and since
• 22:56
  we are kind of in a new paradigm is, is what I was telling you
• 22:59
  earlier, maybe the new structure is, you know, like slight pump,
• 23:03
  then go sideways, consolidate, and then it does the stepwise
• 23:06
  function where it just pumps a little bit and it doesn't do
• 23:08
  these crazy run up like we've seen in the past.
• 23:11
  Obviously, that's still a theory.
• 23:12
  We won't know until hindsight. But going to this Josh Mandel
• 23:16
  tweet here and all the craze around Twitter, it is absolutely
• 23:20
  incredible that he picked the exact day and we really don't
• 23:23
  know how he got these rules. He's like it's some vague.
• 23:26
  He's literally like vibe trading and this isn't TA charting here.
• 23:30
  He's just like, this is the vibes here, some vague memory of
• 23:33
  what the price should be doing and it hit perfectly and
• 23:36
  everyone freaks out on Twitter. Obviously, we love to see some
• 23:39
  predictions play out. It's just like it's human.
• 23:43
  I think it's human nature at this point.
• 23:44
  We just love to see someone call something five months out and
• 23:47
  get it literally perfect. And now the next prediction is
• 23:52
  Hey, we're going to see 444 K and he's like, how did you get
• 23:55
  that number? He's like, I'm just, it's a vibe
• 23:57
  thing, bro. It's like, trust me, based off
• 23:59
  my vibes, bro. And we're like, yes, send it
• 24:02
  though. I do like, and I was trolling
• 24:04
  over the weekend as well. If he hit that 84K, which we
• 24:07
  did, or really it was like you if you heard it, it wasn't 84
• 24:11
  exactly. It's if it's between 80 and 84 K
• 24:14
  close, then it's going to go much higher.
• 24:17
  And if it went over 84 K, then it was going to dump.
• 24:19
  Well, we literally he nailed it in in regards to those
• 24:22
  parameters. So the next move is we'll see by
• 24:25
  the end of the month. Are we going to get 100K by the
• 24:27
  end of March? Would love to see that.
• 24:29
  That would continue to add some more fire to this idea of him
• 24:34
  being the least on Algaeim. He is my quaint here.
• 24:36
  And how does your quaint get these numbers?
• 24:38
  He's like, it's just vibes bro. Like I, I have some idea of how
• 24:41
  this is going to work and, and I'm just going to keep nailing
• 24:44
  it. So 100K by end of this month and
• 24:47
  then we'll see 444 K by 2025. Or I heard some people saying
• 24:53
  that it was going to be 444 K by 2026.
• 24:57
  Now, if that does play out, then we can pretty much very clearly
• 25:01
  say that the cycle theory is going to break because a lot of
• 25:05
  us are thinking 2026 is going to be a bear market.
• 25:07
  If we get this perpetual pump through 2025 into 2026, then
• 25:12
  maybe this this is, you know, this time is different.
• 25:15
  And I think the biggest part about his tweet is this whole
• 25:18
  idea of the fourth turning here. He's like, this time is
• 25:20
  different. This is a once in a lifetime
• 25:22
  opportunity. You're never going to get this
• 25:24
  back. So obviously cherish this moment
• 25:27
  moment because things are fundamentally changing.
• 25:30
  And I think that's the message that we have to kind of continue
• 25:32
  to spread to people. It's like this is a
• 25:35
  fundamentally paradigm shifting moment in history.
• 25:38
  We obviously know now that the Trump administration and nation
• 25:41
  states are fumbling into Bitcoin.
• 25:43
  We know all the biggest institutions are starting to
• 25:45
  FOMO into Bitcoin so I wouldn't be surprised if cycle theory
• 25:48
  does break. We already kind of seen that
• 25:51
  happen last year. Like Muzz was saying the the
• 25:55
  meme of we will never see an all time high before the halving.
• 25:58
  We broke that and now everyone is just kind of trying to wrap
• 26:01
  their head around and and get their own mental model of what
• 26:04
  is this price doing because we have literally no clue.
• 26:06
  Like we are in uncharted territory right now and hey, I'd
• 26:10
  love A444K Bitcoin by this year or going into next year.
• 26:14
  That sounds great to me. So hey, a little hope you a
• 26:16
  Monday. But we we love to see some
• 26:18
  predictions play out, so here we are.
• 26:21
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• 26:42
  Anyways, I'm going to pass it on the horn.
• 26:43
  Is Josh Mandel the new Lisa and Algaeb of Bitcoin?
• 26:48
  I'm going to define what that means.
• 26:50
  Essentially, Plan B was a Lisa and Algaeb, Plan C was a Lisan
• 26:55
  al gaib, Giovanni was a Lisan al gaib.
• 26:57
  But is he the new Lisan al gaib of Bitcoin?
• 27:01
  Twitter Opti. Yes, my coin trades on vibes.
• 27:06
  I think my coin. He is most I I agree.
• 27:09
  I think he is definitely a Lisan al Gaib.
• 27:11
  I'm going to pass it on to Maz. Maz.
• 27:13
  Is Josh Mandel the new Lisan al Gaib?
• 27:17
  Well, for now, he is, you know, that's what they say.
• 27:21
  You know, you're only is, is as good as your last price
• 27:25
  prediction. And I think that we've seen the,
• 27:28
  the rise and fall of, of some people and how it goes.
• 27:32
  So I'm, I mean, it doesn't look like he's making these
• 27:35
  predictions every other day, which is great.
• 27:39
  So yeah, for now and let's see what happens.
• 27:42
  You remember that time traveller that was on red end?
• 27:45
  Yeah, Yeah. That was great.
• 27:46
  Happened and then, you know, and then all of a sudden it didn't
• 27:49
  happen. You know, one of the things, so
• 27:52
  I mean, for right now, I mean, kudos to Josh and and definitely
• 27:57
  given the Bulls a lot of a lot of drugs. 100% And last but not
• 28:05
  least, Mateo Thomas is 100% right.
• 28:09
  I do enjoy saying Lisa and Al Gaidi.
• 28:12
  It's fun to say Mateo, I'm going to make you full screen totally
• 28:16
  serious. Is Josh Mandel the new Lisa and
• 28:20
  Al Gaib of Bitcoin? Well, first of all, I don't know
• 28:24
  what Lisa. I don't even know what that guy
• 28:26
  is. I'm sorry.
• 28:30
  But I guess it's somebody to believe the future from the from
• 28:34
  the thing he has in his nose. Is that how you predict the
• 28:36
  future? I think so.
• 28:42
  I mean, yeah, I mean as, as my said, yeah, for now, like you
• 28:45
  can be like everybody can be the guy with the nose for like a day
• 28:51
  and right. And then and then somebody else
• 28:56
  going to come and it's going to have a bigger, you know, a
• 28:59
  bigger nose thing. And it's going to be more Lisa,
• 29:03
  whatever the name it is than you.
• 29:07
  So I don't know. I don't know who the hell is
• 29:09
  this guy anyway? It's the guy from dude it's with
• 29:13
  me and that was making the rounds anyways, so you guys you
• 29:16
  guys heard it here. We all agree this is the new
• 29:18
  Lisa and I'll game for now until he gets, I mean, let's see
• 29:22
  'cause I'm telling you if he gets this 444K price prediction
• 29:26
  right. 1st 100K end of month if he gets 100K end of month.
• 29:30
  Like, we're all gonna be losing our minds.
• 29:31
  We're gonna be like, who the fuck is this guy?
• 29:33
  So, yeah, but every, you know, everyone must.
• 29:36
  What what, 100K end a month? That wasn't a prediction, right?
• 29:40
  No, he said. Yeah.
• 29:42
  He essentially said if the Bitcoin price closes on March
• 29:47
  14th, 2025 at in between 80 to 84 K, then the price is going to
• 29:54
  go much higher. And then he followed it up with
• 29:56
  100K by end of the month. And then he followed that one up
• 30:00
  with 444K by, I don't know, 20252026.
• 30:04
  So I guess we'll be watching 2 weeks.
• 30:06
  Are we running to 100K? Wow, he didn't leave himself
• 30:10
  much time for air under K By the end of the month.
• 30:14
  There's not really too many people going to be looking to
• 30:17
  this guy as the as you know, to hitch their wagon to his star.
• 30:23
  Hopefully that happens, you know, but the way Bitcoin goes,
• 30:26
  you can have 100K end a week, you know, that's kind of the
• 30:28
  goods go. I mean, if that happens, I feel
• 30:30
  like everyone's going to lose their minds.
• 30:31
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  Bitcoin continued to take Fiat currencies to absolute school.
• 34:44
  Anyways, over the weekend there's some pretty interesting
• 34:47
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• 34:51
  Business and did a couple interviews.
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  Pub Key was featured. I have the video of that.
• 34:57
  And of course there's a sit down interview of Michael Saylor at
• 35:01
  his Miami mansion. Let's check out some of those
• 35:02
  clips. Kevin, let me ask you this.
• 35:05
  You say start small, but is it safe?
• 35:08
  A lot of people aren't sure. When I send my money, if I if I
• 35:11
  use my money and I put it in crypto, where does it go and is
• 35:15
  it safe? That's a great question.
• 35:18
  And if you try and do this on your own in a decentralized
• 35:23
  wallet, as they're called, someone will hack you most
• 35:26
  likely because you don't know what you're doing.
• 35:28
  To make it safe, go to an accredited exchange like
• 35:31
  Coinbase, something that is is, you know, regulated, but also
• 35:36
  that you can see every day on your phone that has million.
• 35:42
  I mean, before I move, I'm before I keep it going.
• 35:46
  I mean, Mr. Wonderful at Public Key, but you know, terrible,
• 35:50
  terrible take for Mr. Wonderful. I know Muzz is a big fan.
• 35:52
  Muzz, do you, do you have any opinions, thoughts, feelings?
• 35:56
  I think you're muted, brother. Perhaps Mr. Wonderful needs to
• 36:02
  take a trip down the old What's happened with exchanges in the
• 36:08
  past 12 years? Perhaps old Mr. Wonderful needs
• 36:11
  to revisit, you know, Mount Gox, Kripsy, my God, you know, he was
• 36:18
  probably out there. I mean, he was an FTX spokesman,
• 36:21
  I think. I think he actually showed FTX
• 36:23
  and got paid for it. So, you know, anyone who
• 36:26
  listened to Mr. Wonderful then is not feeling so wonderful now.
• 36:33
  I mean, you get what he's saying, right?
• 36:34
  I mean, it's, it's still that's the challenge with with Bitcoin
• 36:38
  is onboarding. You know, I remember I just got
• 36:40
  my mom set up with a hardware wallet and she texts me
• 36:44
  sometimes and says I have a question about the words, right?
• 36:48
  It's funny listening to your parents go ahead and think about
• 36:51
  mnemonic seed phrases. I have a question about my
• 36:54
  words. And you know, it's still tough,
• 36:57
  right? Because there is no 1800
• 36:59
  Bitcoin. You know, that's the trade off.
• 37:02
  You know, you make a mistake and you're going to lose Bitcoin
• 37:05
  forever. So, you know, I mean, I kind of
• 37:08
  get what he's saying here and it is a process, right?
• 37:12
  Maybe you start with a little bit of Bitcoin and then once it
• 37:16
  turns into kind of a lot of Bitcoin, then you really got to
• 37:19
  think about, you know, taking the personal responsibility and
• 37:22
  and taking that next step. But you know, exchanges aren't
• 37:26
  safe in any way. I mean, we all know that.
• 37:29
  I mean, you guys are out there every day screaming get your
• 37:31
  Bitcoin off exchanges and and I don't know, I mean he got rugged
• 37:35
  with FTX. Maybe he needs one or two more
• 37:38
  ruggings in him before you know, he's fucking hardcore out there
• 37:42
  with the hoodie just being like self custody.
• 37:45
  KYC is the real enemy. Fuck these people.
• 37:48
  But you know, he's not quite there in his Bitcoin journey.
• 37:52
  Absolutely, I mean bro, self custody.
• 37:54
  Self custody is not your Bitcoin.
• 37:56
  I got the hoodie on everything. Mateo, do you have some thoughts
• 38:00
  on this? Yeah, hold on, Hold on a second.
• 38:02
  Yeah. Mateo is a shadowy super coder.
• 38:07
  There we go. Boom.
• 38:11
  So, yeah, I mean, Surf Castle is the way to go.
• 38:14
  I know it's a little tricky, but you got to learn.
• 38:17
  Because if you if you keep it on exchange, it's not your money.
• 38:21
  So eventually they might get hacked, they might get seized by
• 38:24
  the government. You know what's funny?
• 38:27
  I always wanted to talk to Sailor about his idea that the
• 38:34
  US government should own like 20% of the coins, like a lot of
• 38:38
  coins. And, and he doesn't own, you
• 38:40
  know, he doesn't hold his own coins, his own coins, his
• 38:44
  Microsoft coins are on Coinbase, which is really the US
• 38:47
  government and so on and so forth.
• 38:49
  And I always said a fear that people are so worried about
• 38:55
  minors centralization, which to me is like the least of the of
• 39:00
  the issue. But in reality the real issue
• 39:03
  the way I see Bitcoin is the custodian central custodian
• 39:07
  centralization like so imagine if so I did the math one time I
• 39:13
  think in 2023 in fees they were paid 23,000 bitcoins, right?
• 39:18
  Not from the rewards like fees. Now what happens is if I have
• 39:23
  1,000,000 bitcoins, I can pretty much spam the chain for one
• 39:28
  year. Why?
• 39:29
  Cuz nobody's gonna be able to upbeat me and I can clog the
• 39:34
  chain and I can basically, you know, like shut down the Bitcoin
• 39:37
  on chain network. And maybe I'm just being
• 39:43
  paranoid, but I always thought that's the number one threat to
• 39:45
  Bitcoin, the custodians and not the miners.
• 39:48
  And so, yeah, if you the more comments you keep on the
• 39:51
  custodians, the more this thread, this problem becomes
• 39:54
  bigger. But at the end of the day,
• 39:57
  everybody start with the custodians.
• 39:59
  So if you're new to Bitcoin, you start with the custodians.
• 40:02
  Then you look, you watch some YouTube like busy session is
• 40:06
  great to learn about self custody.
• 40:08
  And then eventually you hold your own keys, your own coins.
• 40:13
  So whatever happens, it doesn't bother you.
• 40:15
  It doesn't matter to you. I think that's kind of the path
• 40:18
  of most big corners. And so if you're new, just keep
• 40:21
  learning. If you've been around for a
• 40:23
  while, just. You get a hardware wallet,
• 40:25
  transfer some coins, do some testing, and then you'll flip
• 40:29
  coin. It's not that difficult.
• 40:30
  It's not that difficult, You just have to do it and get
• 40:32
  confident. Absolutely, 100%, yeah.
• 40:34
  I mean, I think that's the name of the game, right?
• 40:36
  You get comfortable with self custody and it just, you can
• 40:41
  never imagine yourself in a, in a situation where you, you're
• 40:44
  not taking custody of your keys, right?
• 40:46
  100%. But I mean, it is difficult,
• 40:49
  right? For older generations like my
• 40:51
  parents or grandparents, right? The idea of self custody is just
• 40:54
  like, it's so, it's so completely just, it's out of
• 40:58
  their comfort zone to say the least.
• 40:59
  Anyways, Opti, what's your take on?
• 41:01
  I know that you're a big fan of Mr. Wonderful.
• 41:03
  I know that you and Muz will love watching Shark Tank
• 41:06
  together and you'll you guys will have like Shark Tank recap
• 41:11
  calls and stuff. So Opti.
• 41:14
  Yeah, I mean, obviously this is really bad advice.
• 41:16
  Like it's simple, but like Muzz was saying, I think this is kind
• 41:22
  of a sign of the time, especially someone that is the
• 41:25
  age of Mr. Wonderful. They're so used to just having a
• 41:28
  middleman custody their assets. And so he's, you know, I think
• 41:32
  on the one hand, if we're being nice, he's, you know, and, and
• 41:35
  less cynical, this is maybe him trying to have some form of like
• 41:38
  fiduciary responsibility of being like, hey, go to the
• 41:41
  accredited people and that's the safest way to get your Bitcoin.
• 41:44
  But if you talk to a normal person or not a normal person,
• 41:46
  but like an average person that isn't a bitcoiner, that's
• 41:49
  probably going to be their go to move is just be like, Hey, where
• 41:52
  can I just buy some Bitcoin? And it's going to be safe
• 41:55
  because not many people are used to self custodying their assets.
• 41:58
  And This is why we always say that self custody is the
• 42:00
  revolution. Like this is the game changer
• 42:02
  about Bitcoin is that you can take hold of your own money here
• 42:06
  and you don't have to trust the middleman.
• 42:08
  Remember, go read the white paper.
• 42:10
  It's literally the first sentence of the first, you know,
• 42:13
  the abstract and the first paragraph.
• 42:15
  Like there is too much trust on the Internet and it is based on
• 42:20
  all of these middle men. And this is what Bitcoin is
• 42:22
  eliminating. It's eliminating the middleman
• 42:24
  and therefore you want to take custody of your Bitcoin.
• 42:27
  So I see where he's coming from. Obviously, when you kind of go
• 42:30
  down the rabbit hole, I would suggest for a lot of people that
• 42:34
  that's probably where they start.
• 42:35
  It's like, hey, but where can I buy Bitcoin and do it safely?
• 42:38
  And then once they get over that first step of buying their
• 42:41
  Bitcoin, you're like, hey bro, maybe you want to take these
• 42:43
  coins off in exchange, considering that we've seen so
• 42:45
  many exchanges blow up. So I get where he's coming from.
• 42:48
  Obviously, I think this is a bad advice to just be like, hey, buy
• 42:52
  it on Coinbase and leave it there.
• 42:53
  You're going to be good, bro. And it's like, I don't know if
• 42:56
  that's true, Mr. Wonderful. So I would highly suggest people
• 42:59
  take their Bitcoin into custody. But I mean, I understand kind of
• 43:03
  where he's coming from. You know, Boomer, boomer logic
• 43:05
  here. It's not as hardcore Bitcoin
• 43:08
  logic, but it is pretty interesting that that is the
• 43:11
  clip that they put out on Fox News at Pub key.
• 43:14
  But, you know, I guess it's just a sign of where we are right
• 43:16
  now. People still need to learn
• 43:17
  what's actually going on with Bitcoin.
• 43:20
  You know, you know what one thing, So we give these old
• 43:23
  people a little bit of a of a pass, right?
• 43:25
  Oh, they're old. You know, how are they going to
• 43:27
  be you at birth? You are expected to keep a
• 43:32
  physical Social Security card, this little piece of paper for
• 43:37
  your entire life. OK, So if somebody had, you
• 43:41
  know, if, if my grandfather has this Social Security card from,
• 43:45
  you know, 19, you know, 30, then you know, you should be able to
• 43:51
  keep, you know, 12 words safe somewhere.
• 43:54
  It's, you know, so we can't be too easy on them, right?
• 43:57
  It is complicated. You do need someone to show you,
• 43:59
  but I mean, come on. Yeah, 100%.
• 44:03
  I mean, it's again too, you know, this is This is why you
• 44:07
  guys should watch Simply Bitcoin instead of legacy media.
• 44:10
  Tomorrow's Bitcoin News today. Anyways, any final thoughts
• 44:13
  before I move on to the next segment?
• 44:14
  We're going to be talking, we're going to be talking about the
• 44:16
  news and specifically an article coming out of Bitcoin Magazine
• 44:20
  for the audio listeners titled South Korea dismisses
• 44:23
  Establishing a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.
• 44:25
  But that's not the signal out of this article.
• 44:27
  The signal out of this article is the reasons as to why they're
• 44:30
  not doing is quote, failure to meet IMF standards for reserves.
• 44:36
  I mean, we told you guys this. It was a shot across the bow
• 44:40
  when El Salvador was essentially, I mean, it seems
• 44:43
  like Buchele didn't go along with it, but the IMF was born
• 44:46
  was warning El Salvador saying, hey, listen, we're not going to
• 44:49
  give you guys that loan if you don't, if you if you continue to
• 44:53
  acquire Bitcoin. Seems like El Salvador had they
• 44:56
  were at a fork in the road. They had to decide, decide which
• 44:59
  way they were going to go. And they said, you know what,
• 45:02
  we're going to, we're going to continue to acquire Bitcoin.
• 45:05
  But it seems like other countries are, are put in this,
• 45:08
  in this position, especially if they have loans with the IMF
• 45:11
  where they don't have a choice, right?
• 45:14
  Especially other countries that perhaps haven't even started
• 45:16
  acquiring Bitcoin, aren't even looking at Bitcoin.
• 45:18
  I remember back in 2021, Bukele and El Salvador had so much
• 45:22
  momentum. It was announced El Salvador
• 45:25
  made Bitcoin legal tender in 2021.
• 45:27
  The conference in Miami at the time was absolutely bonkers.
• 45:30
  Everyone lost their minds. And then the next year, everyone
• 45:34
  was anticipating that another country was going to fall in the
• 45:36
  footsteps of of El Salvador, but no country followed in the
• 45:40
  footsteps of El Salvador. And I was always like, why?
• 45:42
  That's so weird? Like that's so strange.
• 45:44
  Why did that happen? Now we have a pretty good idea
• 45:47
  as to why it seems like the IMF was never a big fan.
• 45:50
  I mean, they indicated that since the beginning, but it
• 45:53
  seems like they could have been the ones pulling the streams,
• 45:55
  the strings in the background. But I mean, it is quite
• 45:58
  interesting now that the United States is the the, the US
• 46:01
  government is basically saying, hey, we're going to acquire
• 46:03
  Bitcoin. So the whole dynamics of this is
• 46:05
  really interesting and to see how it's going to unfold is
• 46:08
  going to be, you know, let's see what happens.
• 46:10
  This is it's going to be it's going to be interesting to say
• 46:13
  the least. I've said that a couple times,
• 46:14
  but this is very interesting times and Muzz man is a very
• 46:18
  interesting man. So we have to say interesting
• 46:20
  multiple times. Anyways, I do want to give a
• 46:22
  shout out to the live stream. Almost 700 of you guys watching
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  Right. Everybody we are.
• 49:21
  Back so I tweeted this out a couple or posted it's not
• 49:24
  Twitter anymore. I posted this on March 4th.
• 49:27
  I said 94 countries have loans with the IMF.
• 49:30
  All those countries were just sent a message they can't buy
• 49:33
  Bitcoin. This is why after 2021, no other
• 49:38
  countries followed El Salvador. Something stopped the momentum.
• 49:41
  We now have a pretty good idea of who was behind that.
• 49:44
  And this was my response to essentially almost got got half
• 49:48
  a million views. But this is my response to the
• 49:52
  news that was coming out where essentially the IMF was putting
• 49:56
  pressure on El Salvador to stop acquiring Bitcoin, which is
• 50:00
  absolutely absurd if you think about it.
• 50:02
  This is a sovereign country with the democratically elected
• 50:06
  leader that's representing the El Salvadorian people.
• 50:10
  And there you have an an international institution
• 50:13
  basically trying to dictate to El Salvador what they can and
• 50:17
  cannot do with their money, which is absolutely ludicrous.
• 50:20
  And then they hide behind the fact that Bitcoin is volatile.
• 50:23
  Bitcoin has no value. It's, it's just bullshit.
• 50:26
  So anyhow, and I said that, you know, a couple weeks ago and
• 50:31
  then Fast forward right, March 17th, this is the headline.
• 50:35
  South Korea dismisses establishing strategic Bitcoin
• 50:38
  reserve. Here's the headline.
• 50:40
  The Bank of Korea has dismissed the possibility of establishing
• 50:43
  a strategic Bitcoin reserve, citing concerns over price
• 50:46
  volatility and risks. I mean, we've heard those
• 50:48
  excuses before. This comes despite ongoing
• 50:51
  global discussions about using Bitcoin as part of foreign
• 50:55
  exchange reserves following the United States plans to create a
• 50:59
  reserve. In response to an inquiry from a
• 51:02
  member of the National Assembly's Strategy Finance
• 51:05
  Committee, the central bank rejected adding Bitcoin to its
• 51:08
  reserve. OK officials emphasize bitcoins
• 51:11
  wild price swings as a key deterrent, stating the
• 51:15
  transaction cost to conserve bit convert Bitcoin to cash could
• 51:19
  rise drastically if the market experiences instability.
• 51:23
  As of March 17th, Bitcoin trades around 83,500, having fallen 23%
• 51:30
  from its peak of 108,000 in January.
• 51:33
  The B OK warned that this extreme volatility poses
• 51:37
  significant risks to its reserves.
• 51:39
  The the bank also indicated that Bitcoin fails to meet the IMF's
• 51:44
  criteria for reserve assets. The IMF calls for prudent
• 51:49
  management of liquidity, market and credit risk for reserves,
• 51:52
  standards Bitcoin does not currently satisfy in the eyes of
• 51:57
  the be OK, I'm going to leave it there.
• 51:59
  Out of this entire article, this single paragraph is the signal
• 52:04
  must man must man. I mean bro what what what's
• 52:07
  happening here bro? Like this is here as day, the
• 52:11
  IMF is just, you know, trying to ruin bitcoins reputation in the
• 52:16
  eyes of the world. Do you think that the central
• 52:20
  Bank of Korea is just using that as an excuse?
• 52:23
  I mean it's all bullshit bro. Like at this point, 16 years
• 52:26
  later, bitcoins the best performing asset of all time.
• 52:30
  Like who's buying this anymore? Muzz?
• 52:36
  You're muted bro. It's kind of disappointing what
• 52:41
  happened with El Salvador. I mean, I've been to El Salvador
• 52:44
  four times. And, you know, to see them sort
• 52:48
  of roll back some of that and then not really have kind of the
• 52:53
  clear guidance on, you know, he's saying one thing And
• 52:58
  whether he ends up using that money or continues to buy
• 53:01
  Bitcoin or not. You know, those companies like
• 53:04
  Walmart, KFC, everything, they had to comply.
• 53:07
  They had to enable Bitcoin payments to do business in El
• 53:11
  Salvador. And they no longer really have
• 53:13
  to do that. So I, I think it's just a Matt,
• 53:17
  it's a temporary sort of game that they're playing.
• 53:20
  I, I don't think they can hold it back forever, especially
• 53:23
  with, with Trump and, you know, a lot of other nations coming on
• 53:27
  board. You know, I mean, they can't
• 53:30
  hold it back forever, but they certainly, the amount of control
• 53:34
  that they have over these countries is, is crazy that they
• 53:38
  actually have that much power. You know, I had thought that,
• 53:41
  you know, what they had said was, is El Salvador was going to
• 53:44
  be able to pay off the IMF with the Bitcoin price.
• 53:49
  And it was just a little, you know, disappointing to see. 100
• 53:55
  percent, 100%, yeah man, it was. It's crazy how much power this
• 53:59
  institution has. Anyways, I do want to give a
• 54:01
  shout out to the live stream 781 of you guys watching live on X
• 54:05
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• 54:09
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• 54:24
  Smash that like button. Someone Thomas Martinez in the
• 54:28
  chat says who controls the IMF? I mean, that's a really good
• 54:31
  question, Matteo, what are your thoughts on this man?
• 54:33
  This institution, this international institution has so
• 54:37
  much power. They're not elected.
• 54:39
  Like what's going on here? Why are they dictating?
• 54:42
  Why are they telling all these so-called sovereign countries
• 54:45
  what they can and cannot do with their money?
• 54:48
  That doesn't sound like democracy to me Mateo.
• 54:50
  What are your thoughts? You know, the crazy part is that
• 54:56
  North Korea has more become the South Korea.
• 55:01
  Like maybe, you know, maybe the path forward is to be a
• 55:05
  dictatorship. I don't know, I thought that's
• 55:08
  the real Bitcoin strategic reserve now, Jokina said.
• 55:12
  I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy like how much
• 55:15
  power these, you know, these, these institutions have.
• 55:19
  But I mean, it's not surprising anything for us Bitcoiners.
• 55:22
  We always knew, you know, the, the system has too much power,
• 55:25
  which, you know, in at the end of the day, that's why we are
• 55:28
  into Bitcoin, right? Because with Bitcoin, we don't
• 55:31
  have to fight that power. We can just completely like step
• 55:35
  out of that system and don't have to worry about them.
• 55:38
  But you know, for most people in the world, they still haven't
• 55:41
  figured this out. And so they still listen to the
• 55:43
  IMF and the World Bank and, you know, the, you know, NATO and UN
• 55:48
  and, you know, the all this kind of unelected bureaucracy that
• 55:55
  yeah, they're all empowerment. I think everybody gets become
• 55:59
  the price that we serve and that includes nation states, right
• 56:03
  and some people get it sooner, like the US finally got it like
• 56:08
  after 15 years, 16 years, some of them got it like five years
• 56:11
  ago. My home country of Italy
• 56:14
  probably never gonna get it. So you know it's what's
• 56:19
  interesting. You know what's interesting.
• 56:20
  I was thinking that a day like, so Bitcoin is a tool for
• 56:24
  freedom, right? And and so you should expect
• 56:29
  that the countries that to have more freedom principles, like
• 56:35
  freedom, the best are going to be the first to adopt it.
• 56:38
  And so the US being like one of the, I mean, the biggest country
• 56:43
  in the world and the first big countries without the Bitcoin,
• 56:46
  it actually makes perfect sense because it's very pro freedom.
• 56:49
  And if you're pro freedom, you're going to adopt freedom
• 56:52
  technology faster than if you're anti freedom.
• 56:55
  Now, I don't know anything about South Korea.
• 56:57
  I probably know more about North Korea than South Korea, so I
• 57:00
  don't know how how much they like freedom, but you know, it's
• 57:04
  they're going to get 100. Percent.
• 57:07
  Also, two guys. Mateo, I heard a rumor that the
• 57:11
  orange palap is where Opti and Augustin Carson's met.
• 57:15
  Is that true? It's it's not.
• 57:19
  A dating at me because so stop. Well, somebody got married,
• 57:25
  someone got. Married.
• 57:27
  Oh my God. Wait, can you tell us a little
• 57:29
  bit about that? So I mean, yeah, somebody got
• 57:35
  married and he wasn't a man with a man.
• 57:39
  We have no problem with with with any type of of of of
• 57:43
  flavor. But yeah.
• 57:46
  Yeah, I know it was. It wasn't like a traditional
• 57:50
  marriage, men and women. And yeah, I mean, the guy was
• 57:53
  like, man, I owe you. I find my girlfriend to this up
• 57:56
  and my wife and you know, she's I didn't get invited.
• 58:00
  Honestly, I got a little disappointed because they didn't
• 58:02
  invite me to the wedding. I already got my tuxedo.
• 58:05
  I already got everything ready to go.
• 58:07
  But yeah, there's a yeah, it's not look, it's not easy enough,
• 58:12
  but it's a social network. And when people get together,
• 58:17
  you know, sometimes they fall in love, right?
• 58:19
  And so that's. What happens it's, I mean,
• 58:22
  that's absolutely magical. I know Mateo stayed at my house.
• 58:26
  He stayed on my couch through the orange palop.
• 58:29
  You definitely make connections like you've never done before.
• 58:33
  I was waiting for this moment, Nika.
• 58:35
  I was wondering when is? And this is this is Augustin
• 58:39
  Carson's and this is, this is who Opti met, right Opti.
• 58:47
  Help T you don't put him on the couch.
• 58:48
  He is the couch. He is the.
• 58:50
  Couch oh man oh man this is odd jokes this is odd jokes anyways
• 58:56
  guys we got. Speaking of Speaking of couch,
• 59:00
  do you know that I know it's a joke now, but there's a is a
• 59:05
  story in your Did you watch documentary about the Julian and
• 59:09
  Isabel did the orange BLOB and then there was a woman that just
• 59:13
  sign up on orange BLOB and then Julian and his.
• 59:16
  Oh, I heard about that. Yeah, I heard about that.
• 59:20
  And then ended up on the couch of this lady.
• 59:22
  And I'm like, I'm like, this is like a traditional if you sign
• 59:25
  up for Orange BLOB, maybe we should ask when you sign up if
• 59:30
  you have a free couch. It's part of the culture.
• 59:32
  It's part of the culture. I, I, I, yeah, I mean, and you
• 59:35
  could have it in your, you could have it in your profile, right?
• 59:38
  And it could be like kind of cryptic, like if you know, you
• 59:40
  know, if you don't know, you don't know, right?
• 59:43
  So anyways, guys, it's going to be a great, great show.
• 59:46
  We still have the culture segment left and we're going to
• 59:49
  talk about Thunder Funder. We're going to talk about Orange
• 59:51
  Palap. And we got the two protagonists
• 59:54
  of Thunder Thunder and the Orange Palap, Mateo and Muzman
• 59:58
  in the house. So I want to give a shout out to
• 1:00:00
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• 1:00:05
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• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:16
  time the end the show ends. Anyways, Opti, do you have any
• 1:00:19
  thoughts on this, the IMF, on Mateo, on Muzman before we move
• 1:00:25
  on to the culture segment? Well, oh.
• 1:00:28
  Wait, you just, you just got called out?
• 1:00:30
  By the way, Mateo called me out on this as well.
• 1:00:33
  Sat wise in the chat. Opti blew me off on the orange
• 1:00:37
  plat. Matteo, you tell?
• 1:00:40
  Could you tell Opti Live what you told me in front of
• 1:00:43
  everybody? I, I mean, it's, we're, we love
• 1:00:50
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  The least you can do opti. OK, OK, look, clearing, clearing
• 1:01:08
  up the dirt here. I responded to everyone that DM
• 1:01:11
  me last week, so I turned my notifications on.
• 1:01:15
  I'm really notoriously bad at responding to my DMS. I
• 1:01:18
  responded to everyone. So it took a while, but I
• 1:01:22
  responded to you guys. OK, so I'm I'm there.
• 1:01:25
  I'm locked in. I'll respond to everyone
• 1:01:28
  probably weekly. I'll do my best, but I responded
• 1:01:31
  to everyone. Nicole, we should make a new
• 1:01:34
  deal. Let's do it.
• 1:01:35
  We should make a new deal. The less up to replies, the
• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:45
  broke up to you I'm. Replying I replied OK, I'm
• 1:01:51
  replying I'm replying. So I I've been I've been logging
• 1:01:55
  in. I responded to everyone.
• 1:01:56
  It was like 100 plus messages. Again, I apologies for the
• 1:02:00
  delay, but I'm I'm responding to the messages.
• 1:02:04
  Absolutely. IMF, IMF.
• 1:02:07
  El Salvador, what's your take? OK, all right, well, first of
• 1:02:10
  all, Matteo stole my joke because I was going to say the
• 1:02:12
  same thing. It looks like their neighbors in
• 1:02:13
  the north are the real Bitcoin Maxis here.
• 1:02:16
  They're they have a strategic Bitcoin reserve and they seem to
• 1:02:19
  have good OPSEC. So, you know, South Korea is is
• 1:02:23
  absolutely wrecked and devastated.
• 1:02:24
  And we've been talking about this on the show for a long
• 1:02:27
  time, that it is very interesting why no one followed
• 1:02:31
  the El Salvador playbook. But obviously, in hindsight, we
• 1:02:35
  know why the IMF has been pressuring everyone and they
• 1:02:38
  don't like Bitcoin. And it's not, it's not or it's
• 1:02:41
  super obvious why they don't like Bitcoin.
• 1:02:43
  We talk about it every single day.
• 1:02:45
  So, you know, it is disappointing to see South Korea
• 1:02:47
  do this, but you know, they're going to have fun staying poor.
• 1:02:50
  And maybe maybe their neighbors to the north are going to be the
• 1:02:53
  real rich ones because they have a strategic Bitcoin reserve.
• 1:02:56
  Many people don't know, but Kim is definitely a Bitcoin maxi if
• 1:03:01
  you understand. He he actually runs a very
• 1:03:04
  successful meet up. Oh my, I want to go to that one.
• 1:03:10
  Anyways, the breaking news of today's news segment is that
• 1:03:15
  Opti will reply to you on Orange Palab.
• 1:03:18
  That is the breaking news. Every week, Opti will spend an
• 1:03:22
  hour going through messages, hitting back all his fans and
• 1:03:27
  hanging out in the simply Bitcoin group.
• 1:03:29
  You guys could ask Opti any question to like and he'll be on
• 1:03:33
  the he'll be on the orange pill app and.
• 1:03:34
  Wait, how do I find the? How do I find the Simply Bitcoin
• 1:03:37
  group on orange pill app? I need to get up in there.
• 1:03:40
  It's hidden. It's hidden.
• 1:03:42
  You got a search for it right Mateo are.
• 1:03:46
  You going public groups at Mars, the last stop and the there's
• 1:03:51
  like 1000 public we got. 406 people in the simply Bitcoin
• 1:03:58
  group chat. Opti's going to be responding
• 1:04:01
  every single day. You guys definitely don't.
• 1:04:03
  I can't do every day. I'll respond every week.
• 1:04:06
  You got wow, just moving the goal posts in front of Mateo has
• 1:04:15
  no business acumen whatsoever. Guys respond.
• 1:04:20
  Join the Simply Bitcoin group chat.
• 1:04:22
  There's 406 people in there. It's a party.
• 1:04:25
  I jump in there at least a couple times a week.
• 1:04:27
  It's a great time. You could send me a message as
• 1:04:30
  well and make sure to get back to every single one of you guys.
• 1:04:33
  Anyways, guys, stay tuned for the culture segment.
• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:06:50
  Anyways, guys, we're going to do a deep dive into what these fine
• 1:06:56
  gentlemen are working on during the culture segment.
• 1:06:59
  We got Mateo, founder and CEO of the Orange Palap in the house.
• 1:07:04
  And of course, we got Muzman, founder and CEO of Thunder
• 1:07:08
  Thunder, Lightning Ventures, all of that good stuff.
• 1:07:10
  We're going to start off with the Orange Palap Opti.
• 1:07:12
  I'm going to hand it off to you, my friend.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah, well, let's, yeah, let's start with the Orange pup.
• 1:07:17
  So Mateo, let's talk about it. You were talking about it
• 1:07:19
  earlier. You guys just launched the
• 1:07:21
  orange pill app wallet. So absolutely incredible.
• 1:07:25
  Plug it for the audience that if they're not familiar with it.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah, so the orange flap is it's kind of like a couch surfing for
• 1:07:36
  big corners. And you can find people with
• 1:07:39
  couches all over the world and you can talk to them.
• 1:07:41
  I'll just just kidding. It's, it's, it's basically, you
• 1:07:46
  know, the, the reason. So I can tell you the short
• 1:07:48
  story why I built this up. I went to Miami in 2021 and I
• 1:07:53
  didn't know anybody. Literally I didn't know anybody.
• 1:07:55
  It was my first conference. And before that I was like a
• 1:07:58
  Bitcoin, you know, rabbit hole, like listening to all the
• 1:08:00
  podcasts, all the books. And then I was like, yeah, let's
• 1:08:02
  go find some Bitcoiners. So I went to Miami, which is
• 1:08:05
  where, you know, Buchelli announced or the, the Bitcoin in
• 1:08:10
  El Salvador. Anyway, so I met Vikons for the
• 1:08:12
  first time and it was a great experience.
• 1:08:16
  Then I came back to LA, which is where I live, and I said let's
• 1:08:19
  go to a meet up, let's find big corners where I live, right?
• 1:08:23
  And I went to this meet up. It was like October 2021 and I
• 1:08:27
  kid you not, like half of the people were like Ethereum NFT.
• 1:08:32
  So on my way back home, as I was young, I was like, how do I find
• 1:08:37
  big corners in my, you know, in my local area?
• 1:08:40
  Like there's kind of, I literally did the math in my
• 1:08:42
  head, you know, like if there's 0.1% of big corners in the
• 1:08:45
  United States, I should be able to find 10 or 20 or at least
• 1:08:50
  three and there. But there wasn't a way, right?
• 1:08:53
  Cuz on Twitter you can't, you know, you don't see where you
• 1:08:56
  are. And so eventually I realized,
• 1:08:58
  OK, I should build a solution to this.
• 1:09:02
  Hopefully it's not just me with this problem of like, you know,
• 1:09:05
  like at the Bitcoin is kind of like a hero journey, like your
• 1:09:09
  normal life, everything is like, you know, normal.
• 1:09:12
  And then you find out about Bitcoin and then you kind of
• 1:09:16
  like go down to the like, to the like a dark side where
• 1:09:19
  everything is like, it's like, you know, everything is like a
• 1:09:21
  conspiracy theory and like everything is wrong with the
• 1:09:24
  world. You know, the, you learn about
• 1:09:25
  money printing and the Fed and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:28
  And then your friends don't want to talk to you about Bitcoin
• 1:09:31
  because they're still in normal. And in fact, then it's not that
• 1:09:35
  they don't want to talk to you. They think you're crazy or
• 1:09:38
  you're in a cold or, you know, you're kind of like losing your
• 1:09:40
  mind. And so if you know, it's so then
• 1:09:43
  then you become a little lonely. You know, it's it's which I
• 1:09:46
  think is why we spend so much time on Twitter and all store
• 1:09:49
  and all the podcast because, you know, we get lonely.
• 1:09:52
  And so orange flap is the solution to that problem of like
• 1:09:55
  being a big corner. It's a lonely journey.
• 1:10:00
  But then, you know, so then I launched the app.
• 1:10:02
  Actually, I launched you out literally like FTXI, remember,
• 1:10:05
  blew up on a Friday. We launch on a Wednesday after
• 1:10:10
  literally at the bottom of the mark, which was a great time to
• 1:10:13
  launch this app actually. But yeah, so we launch this app,
• 1:10:16
  you know, it's a location based social network, so you'll find
• 1:10:20
  big corners nearby. Of course, we don't deliver
• 1:10:23
  pizza, so we don't use precise location.
• 1:10:27
  We use approximate location, which is 10 miles.
• 1:10:31
  And more importantly, we don't do KYC, so you can be anonymous
• 1:10:36
  as you like. We don't do ads, so we don't
• 1:10:38
  really care about you or your data.
• 1:10:40
  So we don't sell your data. We don't track your data.
• 1:10:42
  And so it's very private. And yeah, the goal is to find
• 1:10:45
  local big corners, meet them, have fun.
• 1:10:48
  You know, like I go to meet ups that are actually free of big
• 1:10:51
  corners, not like the fake one that I went.
• 1:10:54
  And and now because of the election and Trump, we finally
• 1:10:58
  launched a wallet, which is lighting only it's super fast.
• 1:11:03
  You can ZAP users. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:11:05
  So it's you can ZAP user username.
• 1:11:09
  We just launched mass zapping. And the other day, guys, I kid
• 1:11:14
  you not, we did half of all lighting network transactions.
• 1:11:19
  That's crazy. Which I was shocked we did
• 1:11:23
  100,000 transaction in one day. And so we launch this thing
• 1:11:29
  called Math ZAP. And so there are group chats in
• 1:11:31
  our orange lab. And now you can just click on
• 1:11:34
  the bolt icon and you can ZAP everybody in the group chat and
• 1:11:39
  you can add a little message. So it's it's kind of a way to
• 1:11:43
  get attention of other people. It's actually the, you know, one
• 1:11:45
  of the best way. And yeah, so now we have this
• 1:11:48
  wallet. We're going to launch something
• 1:11:49
  special. I guess we can announce here
• 1:11:53
  we're going to launch Geo Zapping, which is you're going
• 1:11:57
  to be able to tap a city, let's say Miami, and then ZAP
• 1:12:02
  everybody that is in that city. And so actually somebody just
• 1:12:07
  told me that a great use case. So you guys remember the
• 1:12:11
  Canadian truck process right? Now imagine if Geo zapping
• 1:12:17
  existed back then. You could just type the cities
• 1:12:21
  where all the truckers are and ZAP them, although like from all
• 1:12:26
  over the world, you can just ZAP people in all anonymous by the
• 1:12:29
  way, because we don't do KYC, so there's no trace of that.
• 1:12:33
  So we're launching Joe's app in this week and maybe tomorrow.
• 1:12:37
  And yeah, so it's, you know, it's so we have a wallet, it's
• 1:12:40
  a, it's a social network. And then later this year, we're
• 1:12:43
  launching a ticketing platform for the events.
• 1:12:47
  Very, very cool. Yeah, big fan.
• 1:12:48
  Big fan of it. By the way, the Simply Bitcoin
• 1:12:51
  group chat is popping off right now.
• 1:12:53
  I'm going to read the last couple of message.
• 1:12:55
  James says say hey Opti. Satoshi says hey Opti.
• 1:13:01
  Chef Tommy says just checking in to make sure Opti holds his end
• 1:13:05
  of the bargain. James says watching the show No
• 1:13:09
  Alaska Mama says hey Opti. Chef Tommy says Opti and Niko
• 1:13:14
  let's do a meet up and I'll cook hella steak.
• 1:13:16
  So Opti is going to take a moment and join the simply
• 1:13:20
  Bitcoin group chat and respond to all his friends and and and
• 1:13:26
  fans. Anyways, yeah, this is a really
• 1:13:28
  cool app. I've been using it for years
• 1:13:31
  just watching Matteo develop. This has been absolutely
• 1:13:34
  awesome. Opti is on the Orange Bull app
• 1:13:37
  right now. Send him a, send him a question.
• 1:13:39
  He will answer it live on air. And yeah, it's been a great it's
• 1:13:44
  it's been a great experience I've had just using the app.
• 1:13:48
  And one of the things, one of the highlights that I remember
• 1:13:50
  again, was I didn't even know Mateo at the time.
• 1:13:54
  And he was in Miami and he needed a place to stay.
• 1:13:58
  And I was like, dude, I have a couch.
• 1:14:00
  And, you know, he, I, he came at midnight and my wife was a
• 1:14:04
  little bit scared and I couldn't see him in the hallway because
• 1:14:09
  the light was off. So I just saw a very tall
• 1:14:12
  Italian man. And he said, hi, I'm Mateo.
• 1:14:15
  And I'm like, hey, I'm Nico. And I gave him, you know, a like
• 1:14:19
  a blanket. And I showed him the couch.
• 1:14:22
  And in the morning, I woke up and I was like, I'm going to
• 1:14:23
  have breakfast with Mateo, but he wasn't there.
• 1:14:26
  He was just gone. He was mysteriously gone.
• 1:14:29
  And I figured out that Brian De Mint picked him up.
• 1:14:32
  And it wasn't until like, at least a couple months that I
• 1:14:36
  actually saw Mateo's face. I didn't know what he looked
• 1:14:38
  like the longest time, but I knew his name.
• 1:14:42
  But those are the only type of like special type of, you know,
• 1:14:47
  a special type of events that you'll find in the orange pull
• 1:14:51
  up. You won't find any altcoiners on
• 1:14:54
  there. It's it's a, it's a Bitcoin
• 1:14:56
  community. It's very lively.
• 1:14:58
  It's very awesome. And you'll run into those types
• 1:15:00
  of things, whether you know, it's just connecting with
• 1:15:03
  people, right? You know, this is a movement.
• 1:15:06
  The Bitcoin community is very special.
• 1:15:08
  What Mateo was saying is, is very true.
• 1:15:10
  Sometimes it's lonely to be a Bitcoiner.
• 1:15:12
  It's hard to connect with people that share your your worldview.
• 1:15:18
  There's there's not that many bitcoiners worldwide.
• 1:15:20
  So the orange pull app makes it easy to find those Bitcoin
• 1:15:24
  communities in those cities all over the world.
• 1:15:27
  So it's a really, really cool resource.
• 1:15:29
  Been recommending it for years. It's absolutely awesome.
• 1:15:32
  Go to orangepullapp.com to get started.
• 1:15:35
  Whine of kisses in the chat. Chat shadowy couch sleeper.
• 1:15:40
  Something that Winekus does very, very well.
• 1:15:43
  But yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to pass it on to Opti.
• 1:15:45
  Opti. I mean, you got to, you got to
• 1:15:48
  get on the orange palapa. I don't know what's happening
• 1:15:50
  here. Well, first of all, I'm on it
• 1:15:52
  and I'm responding, so, you know, get off my back here.
• 1:15:55
  I just responded to the last three messages.
• 1:15:58
  All right, so like, let's change the subject here because we're
• 1:16:00
  here to talk about Mateo. Let's plug the lightning torch
• 1:16:04
  before we go into why Muzz is here.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, so too. So when the Lighting Network
• 1:16:13
  started back in 2017, there was this thing called the lighting
• 1:16:16
  torch where people would just pass the torch to each other
• 1:16:20
  like Jack Dorsey and Amanda Dell and other people like other
• 1:16:24
  influencing the Bitcoin and then to raise funds for Bitcoin or
• 1:16:28
  core developers. And so we thought, why don't we
• 1:16:31
  do the same thing in Orange Velocity.
• 1:16:33
  So we launched the wallet literally a month ago, actually,
• 1:16:36
  and we've been passing this torch around to Orange members.
• 1:16:41
  I think now we're like half a million SAT's, so we're almost
• 1:16:43
  there. So once we get to a million
• 1:16:45
  SAT's, we'll give it to open SAT's account.
• 1:16:49
  And yeah, so if you want the torch, DM me or actually, sorry,
• 1:16:53
  DM Opti, you press Secretary A. 100% Opti is going to be on the
• 1:17:01
  app today all day, answering every question, every message
• 1:17:06
  that you might get. So message Opti directly and if
• 1:17:11
  if you don't just tag me on the simply Bitcoin group and I will
• 1:17:16
  make sure to call Opti and get him on the app anyways.
• 1:17:19
  We also have the one, the only must man in the house.
• 1:17:23
  Muzz is the CEO and and founder of Lightning Ventures and
• 1:17:28
  Thunder Funder and the Orange blab is now crowdfunding on
• 1:17:33
  Thunder Funder. I'm going to pass the baton to
• 1:17:36
  Muzzman Muzman. What does that mean?
• 1:17:39
  What does that mean? And that's interim CEO of
• 1:17:43
  Thunder Funder. I think we have a new CEO that's
• 1:17:45
  going to be announced very soon that I'm excited about.
• 1:17:49
  What does that mean? Well, Thunder Funder is a
• 1:17:52
  crowdfunding platform, not like Kickstarter and Indiegogo and
• 1:17:56
  those sort of things, but it's equity, equity crowdfunding
• 1:17:59
  where you can actually invest into early stage companies.
• 1:18:04
  That's the regulation crowdfunding portal that we have
• 1:18:08
  here. And of course, we're focused on
• 1:18:09
  Bitcoin and open source companies.
• 1:18:12
  And the Orange Pill app is live on Thunder Funder right now.
• 1:18:17
  So with a very low minimum, you can actually invest on what
• 1:18:22
  would be likely very similar, if not the same terms as the fancy
• 1:18:27
  VCs and the suits. That's kind of the power of
• 1:18:31
  democratizing access to these really cool early stage
• 1:18:36
  companies and that's what we're all about.
• 1:18:38
  On Thunder Funder, we have another deal for Jolts.
• 1:18:41
  Jolts just had some big news because Tether will be issuing
• 1:18:47
  USD T on Lightning. Jolts is leading with Taproot
• 1:18:51
  assets and of course Orange Pill app.
• 1:18:54
  Those are our two first offerings on Thunder Funder, so
• 1:18:59
  you can join it's free, you can sign up, it's very early, you
• 1:19:04
  can send messages, you can discover other people on the
• 1:19:07
  platform. We got a million things that we
• 1:19:09
  want to do to really make it more engaged as far as a
• 1:19:15
  community goes regular, lots of fun stuff, but it's early,
• 1:19:19
  right? And we want your feedback.
• 1:19:21
  So whatever you come up with, we will build, right?
• 1:19:24
  And it's screaming for a mobile app too, which is something.
• 1:19:27
  But you can connect with really cool people.
• 1:19:29
  We actually have an orange pill app badge that's built into
• 1:19:35
  Thunder Funder where you plug in your orange pill app profile on
• 1:19:40
  your Thunder Funder investing profile.
• 1:19:43
  You'll get a little orange pill app badge and then people can
• 1:19:45
  click on you and move the conversation right there into
• 1:19:49
  the orange pill app. So we love Mateo, we love
• 1:19:53
  everything that he's doing and that is the investment
• 1:19:57
  opportunity that we have right now.
• 1:19:59
  Very very cool. So to find out more information
• 1:20:02
  guys you can go to Thunder funder dot dot com.
• 1:20:05
  Also breaking news, Opti will be the new CEO of Thunder Funder.
• 1:20:09
  That is a joke is it must? Well, if you know if if you do
• 1:20:16
  want to apply, we took the job posted down from from Bitcoin or
• 1:20:19
  jobs. But if you are interested,
• 1:20:22
  please reach out ASAP because we are looking for somebody really
• 1:20:27
  cool. Opti Opti all first step is
• 1:20:30
  answer messages. Answer messages.
• 1:20:32
  You're one step closer to being the CEO of Thunder Funder.
• 1:20:35
  Opti, could you Scroll down please?
• 1:20:37
  Let's look at some of these the the deal terms we valuation
• 1:20:43
  funding goal the min the Max type of security crowd safe.
• 1:20:49
  Let's take a look let's take a look at some of these
• 1:20:51
  highlights. So 15,000 paid members, 472,000
• 1:20:55
  dollars, 472 K yearly revenue, 59 K downloads, 4.8 rating on
• 1:21:04
  the App Store, 3.6 BTC and treasury and the 1,000,000 plus
• 1:21:10
  messages. Very very cool and you guys
• 1:21:13
  could invest in the orange palap today.
• 1:21:16
  Just head over to Thunder funder.
• 1:21:17
  Now I have a couple questions for you.
• 1:21:21
  The chats already saying Opti for CEO Muzz, you might have put
• 1:21:24
  yourself in a in a situation, but a couple questions for you
• 1:21:28
  Muzz man. So can anyone invest because we
• 1:21:32
  you know, we've heard this 1000 times like the the you know, if
• 1:21:37
  you're not an accredited investor etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:21:40
  You know, is there any type of barrier to entry on this?
• 1:21:44
  Really, there isn't. And that's kind of the cool
• 1:21:47
  thing about crowdfunding or equity crowdfunding is that
• 1:21:51
  nearly anyone can invest. And you don't have to be located
• 1:21:55
  in the USI don't think you can invest if you're in North Korea.
• 1:21:59
  You know, there's a few sanctioned places that you you
• 1:22:03
  can't invest, but for the most part, anyone can invest.
• 1:22:06
  And it's really a low minimum. So for people who, you know,
• 1:22:09
  want to get started with learning about Angel investing
• 1:22:13
  and you know, investing in companies, but this is not free,
• 1:22:16
  right? Like geyser.
• 1:22:18
  This is not like geyser. You're not donating money to to
• 1:22:23
  the orange pill app because it's it's a worthwhile cause and you
• 1:22:26
  want to support it. You actually are an investor.
• 1:22:30
  You actually have an instrument here.
• 1:22:31
  They call it a crowd safe. It's basically a safe with a
• 1:22:34
  with a couple of small differences from what you would
• 1:22:37
  have as a standard safe, but you are an investor.
• 1:22:40
  So when you see Mateo at the Bitcoin conferences or when
• 1:22:44
  you're using his product, you are an investor and you know, it
• 1:22:49
  kind of helps you solidify your bond with your users, your
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  customers, right, Because they love you so much that they are
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  going to invest in your company too.
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  You know, Sub Stack just did a really big one, you know,
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  because everyone loves Sub Stack and people, it gives them an
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  opportunity to invest. So Mateo has a very captive
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  lively audience within the Orange pill app and a lot of
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  those people are coming out and investing and supporting in him.
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  And you know, Mateo also has a nice Bitcoin treasury there too,
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  as well as it's it's a profitable business, which is
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  really cool. And you know, we have to put
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  everything on that deal page as we are just putting the
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  information out. OK, the rules with FINRA is I
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  can't tell you how much I love the orange pill app or how
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  amazing this deal is. We have to just present the
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  facts. So that's why, you know, we
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  don't have a bunch of rocket ship emojis and then telling you
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  all that stuff on the accredited investor side, you get to you
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  get to really dig in with your feelings and you can't do that
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  with with Thunder Funder. So everything you see there is
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  just presented. Those are all facts, not our
• 1:24:09
  editorial content. Absolutely.
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  Very, very cool. So guys, head over to
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  thunderthunder.com today, check out the latest opportunities and
• 1:24:20
  also check out the orange pull up.
• 1:24:23
  Go to orangepullup.com today, send Opti a message and he will
• 1:24:29
  make sure to get back to every single one of you guys.
• 1:24:32
  I do want to thank the live stream, 1600 live viewers
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  chat for 499. Appreciate you, bro.
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  Thank you so much. But yeah, guys, I'm a seat
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  though. Thank you, dude.
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  Yeah, guys, love you all. Thank you guys so much for
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  tuning in today. I'm your host Nico, my Co host
• 1:25:05
  Optimus Fields, our special guest Mateo from the orange
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  Palop and Muzz Man from Thunder Funder.
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  Anyways guys, love you all. We'll see you on the next one.
• 1:25:14
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