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Ep 1004 | A Post-DEI America Will FLOURISH in Front of the World | Guest: Rob Eno · Predictable with Stu Burguiere

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  Rob Eno is here to break down the mainstream media's death rattle.
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  Donald Trump's confirmation hearings kick off for his next administration's
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  staff.
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  That's all going on,
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  uh,
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  as we maybe you saw today,
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  but we'll get into that in a little bit.
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  We're gonna start though by doing a post DEI
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  America.
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  I like that because there's a question mark
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  in the title of today's show.
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  Why?
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  Because you don't know which way it's gonna go.
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  Is it going to be post DEI
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  or
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  is it going to be
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  constant DEI?
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  You don't know,
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  and we'll reveal that
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  at the end
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  of the monologue.
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  Um,
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  or we'll have more questions than answers,
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  but we're gonna do one of the,
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  one of the two.
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  I,
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  I want to bring you back.
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  I want to start today
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  going backwards a little bit.
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  I want to rewind,
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  rewind your memory,
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  go back before the election,
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  go back before,
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  uh,
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  Afghanistan,
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  before,
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  um,
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  Joe Biden's election in 2020,
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  you go back before the George Floyd Summer.
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  And you think,
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  I think a lot of times you think of DEI.
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  And you go back to the idea of the George Floyd Summer,
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  right?
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  George Floyd,
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  uh,
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  he's killed,
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  uh,
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  there's uh outrage,
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  there's riots,
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  it's crazy,
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  and
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  the
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  reaction to that was wild,
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  right?
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  It was like,
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  uh uh uh um,
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  we're sorry.
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  I'm sorry,
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  white person in Phoenix,
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  what the hell did you have to do with it?
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  You had nothing to do with it at all.
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  I,
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  I,
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  this
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  one guy was convicted of murder.
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  That's,
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  that's,
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  that's the story.
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  The story is not
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  you
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  who own,
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  uh,
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  you know,
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  a diner
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  in,
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  uh,
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  Flagstaff.
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  You didn't do anything.
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  You don't need to apologize.
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  People would put up,
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  uh,
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  remember the black squares,
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  uh,
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  on Instagram,
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  and
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  people were constantly like walking up to random black guys in
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  Walmart and apologizing to them for being white or something.
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  I mean,
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  that was a weird time.
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  And I feel like.
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  It feels like a long time ago,
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  first of all,
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  but it also feels like
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  a,
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  a,
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  a,
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  a totally different world,
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  doesn't it?
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  Like I,
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  and we're seeing now,
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  of course,
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  a lot of this falling apart.
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  If you watch
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  uh what's going on from day to day these days,
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  you're seeing a lot of people saying,
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  wait a minute,
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  maybe we went the wrong direction there for a minute.
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  But I want to go back even before that.
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  I want to bring you back to April
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  2018.
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  Do you remember what happened in April 2018?
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  Probably not.
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  There's been a few news stories since.
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  But it was a big story
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  for a week or two.
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  And it happened
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  at a Starbucks.
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  Starbucks' arrests sparked outrage.
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  None of the white customers were asked to leave.
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  Do you remember this story?
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  A couple of black guys go into a Starbucks,
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  they want to use the bathroom.
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  Remember this?
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  Police said Starbucks' manager called 911 on
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  Thursday because the men refused to leave
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  after trying to use the store's restroom without making a purchase.
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  They were arrested for alleged trespassing.
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  The two men claim they were in Starbucks for
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  a business meeting and were waiting for someone now.
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  The fascinating part about this is
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  they told the people at the restaurant,
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  hey,
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  we're not doing this.
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  We're not,
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  we're not going to buy anything.
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  They
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  were told that
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  you can't stay here
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  in our restaurant and use the bathroom if you're
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  not going to buy something like this is.
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  Obvious.
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  The manager was like,
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  this stuff happens all the time and we wanted to,
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  it's got nothing to do with the skin color,
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  of course,
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  but we,
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  you know,
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  you can't just use our restaurant,
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  you can't use our facilities.
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  With,
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  you know,
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  in,
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  in this way.
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  Like you have to buy something,
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  you want to buy something,
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  you can sit,
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  kind of sit here all day.
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  We'll deal with that,
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  you know,
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  you want to get your laptop open.
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  I mean,
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  I've done this at Starbucks.
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  I go in there,
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  you buy,
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  you know,
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  maybe a little breakfast sandwich.
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  Uh,
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  I'm not a big coffee person.
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  I don't really like any of their drinks,
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  but,
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  you know,
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  you know,
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  I'll,
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  I'll buy a water,
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  I'll buy a breakfast sandwich,
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  I'll sit down,
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  I'll type away,
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  and I'll,
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  you know,
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  you know,
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  I'll be,
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  if I have some writing to do or whatever,
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  sometimes you like to be in that little world.
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  Well,
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  that's OK,
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  but when you don't buy anything,
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  It's not OK.
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  As every person who's ever,
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  you know,
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  seen a sign,
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  uh,
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  you know,
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  customers only,
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  everyone,
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  everyone's seen no shirt,
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  no,
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  no shoes,
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  no service.
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  Like there are some requirements for you as a
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  customer to be able to stay in an establishment.
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  That is not a
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  crazy idea at all.
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  And so
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  the appropriate thing to be,
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  you know,
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  what happened,
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  and,
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  and I think that the police handled it totally fine.
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  They came in,
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  they said,
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  look,
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  if you're not going to leave,
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  we've got a problem here.
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  You're trespassing.
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  We need you to leave.
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  They said that they were not going to leave.
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  They got arrested
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  for trespassing.
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  Of course,
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  the reaction to that should be obvious for the store.
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  Hey,
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  we are,
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  our manager has never had any racist allegations against her.
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  I believe it was a woman at the time,
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  and
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  she did the right thing.
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  She called these customers out.
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  They wouldn't listen.
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  She called the police.
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  That was the right thing to do,
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  followed all of our policies
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  at the time.
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  And
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  that is the way this wrapped up.
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  We're proud of our employee,
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  maybe we'll give her a little raise.
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  Instead,
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  what they did is they blamed the employee.
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  They called her basically a racist.
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  I believe they fired her.
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  I mean,
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  it's some of the details,
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  it's hard to even remember,
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  but let me
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  take you back to what.
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  Else happened as regards to this story.
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  Men arrested in Philadelphia Starbucks reached settlements,
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  so they got a bunch of cash for this,
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  for not buying something and going into a store and then refusing to leave.
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  They got cash.
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  Robinson and Nelson agreed to a settlement with Starbucks for an undisclosed sum,
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  which I'm sure was large,
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  and an offer of free.
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  College tuition.
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  To complete bachelor degrees through an online program with Arizona State
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  University that was created 4 years ago for Starbucks employees.
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  In a separate deal,
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  they got a symbolic $1 each from the city of Philadelphia,
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  as well as a promise from officials to establish a $200,000 public high school
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  program
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  for young
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  entrepreneurs.
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  Now,
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  you might say,
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  OK,
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  that's wild,
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  right?
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  Like they broke the rules,
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  they weren't in the right.
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  Uh,
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  the employee was in the right.
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  Um,
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  the employee,
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  by the way,
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  was
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  absolutely following the stated policy of the Starbucks.
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  Like she wasn't even making this up,
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  she wasn't just annoyed by these two individuals,
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  um,
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  she,
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  uh,
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  was following the policy of the restaurants.
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  So what did Starbucks do?
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  Well,
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  as I noted,
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  they did not,
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  they,
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  they settled with these guys,
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  they gave them a bunch of cash,
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  but they went further.
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  Think about this for a second.
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  Do you remember this part of the story?
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  Starbucks to close stores nationwide for racial bias training.
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  Starbucks closed
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  all of their restaurants.
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  To conduct racial bias training.
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  Now there was no sign of racism
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  whatsoever when it came to this event.
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  It wasn't one of those things where other employees later came out and said,
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  by the way,
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  she's always targeting black customers when they come in here.
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  It wasn't one of those situations where
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  You know,
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  they overheard racial slurs being spoken in the back.
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  None of this was even accused.
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  Like
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  there wasn't even an accusation
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  of
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  actual overt racism.
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  There was just sort of this implied,
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  well,
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  you probably wouldn't have removed us if we were white.
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  That's all it was.
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  They closed down
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  all of their restaurants for racial bias
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  training.
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  And when I,
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  when I was recapping this story,
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  it hit me as,
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  like right in the face.
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  God,
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  that doesn't seem possible in today's world.
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  And I thought that's a really good feeling to have.
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  This isn't like,
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  oh wow,
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  well this is crazy,
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  and then of course this is what they do all the time.
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  No,
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  it struck me a totally different way.
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  It struck me as,
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  wait,
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  wow,
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  I can't believe that happened.
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  I mean,
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  can you imagine,
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  again,
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  this is a liberal restaurant,
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  we all know that this is no,
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  there's no conservatives running this place,
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  but even a left wing restaurant,
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  it seems crazy
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  to close down,
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  you know,
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  3 or 4000 locations
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  to conduct racial bias training.
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  Like it feels like that would be mocked out of existence if somebody tried it.
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  And that's really,
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  really good.
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  It means we've come
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  a really long way.
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  We've come such a long way.
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  The news today
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  is tied to that 28 story
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  and is tied to Starbucks.
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  Starbucks is pulling back access
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  for people who don't pay.
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  That's right.
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  They're starting to reverse those crazy policies they put in place afterward.
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  Afterward,
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  they actually put in place a policy
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  that said,
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  anyone can come in whenever they want and do whatever they want.
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  You don't have to buy anything,
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  of course not.
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  Everyone's welcome all the time.
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  You just come into Starbucks and do whatever you want all the time.
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  We swear we're OK,
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  we're not racist,
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  we promise.
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  That was basically the policy after that incident,
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  which again,
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  was not an incident.
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  It was a totally
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  made up
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  nonsensical incident that the media embraced because we were in
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  the rise of that wokeness,
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  and we hit 2020 and it peaked probably right in the days after
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  um George Floyd,
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  in the months after.
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  When people were donating
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  millions and millions,
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  even billions of dollars
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  to these anti-racist Ibrahim Kendi
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  type programs
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  related to Black Lives Matter and other organizations,
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  and
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  we have seen it falling off,
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  and I think it's felt
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  like it's fallen off a little bit since those times,
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  but
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  It doesn't seem even like the same country that would do
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  something like closing all your restaurants for racial bias training.
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  I mean,
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  who knows?
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  Who knows what's around the corner.
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  Um,
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  but the good news is today Starbucks is rolling back a policy that
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  allows people to hang out there or use the bathroom without buying anything.
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  Shame implemented the policy in 2018 following
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  a national uproar which didn't exist
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  when two black men who hadn't purchased anything
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  were arrested at a Starbucks in Philly.
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  The shift is part of a new code of conduct at Starbucks cafes.
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  Among the changes will be the posting
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  of signs banning discrimination and harassment,
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  violence,
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  or abusive language,
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  outside alcohol,
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  panhandling,
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  drug use,
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  and other disruptive behavior.
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  And I know you can see that and say,
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  OK,
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  well,
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  they're still saying all the,
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  well,
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  we have to have,
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  uh,
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  uh,
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  no discrimination or harassment.
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  Well,
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  first of all,
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  you shouldn't have discrimination or harassment,
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  that just was,
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  it doesn't need to be posted,
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  everyone knows that and shouldn't do it.
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  Um,
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  secondarily,
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  and of course harassment by the way,
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  is against the law,
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  and a lot of discrimination is as well,
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  not all of it,
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  but a lot of it is,
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  um.
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  Violence,
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  we have to have a,
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  you can't have violence at a Starbucks,
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  thanks for the posting,
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  Starbucks.
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  Guess what?
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  The people who are committing violence in your place don't care about your posting,
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  that's just dumb.
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  Um,
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  but panhandling is a big one,
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  right?
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  Like this stuff happens all the time.
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  I,
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  I can't tell you how many times I've been in a,
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  you know,
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  a pharmacy or a restaurant or,
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  um,
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  uh,
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  you know,
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  this happened when I was in New York City,
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  uh,
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  the over a vacation.
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  Uh,
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  my,
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  my son and I went on a New York City pizza tour,
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  which I arranged to,
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  to walk from pizza place to pizza place to pizza place,
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  and like,
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  I can't,
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  like,
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  people were,
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  you know,
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  homeless people coming into the pizza restaurant
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  to harass people eating pizza in the restaurant
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  to ask them for money.
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  It's like,
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  as a business owner,
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  this is not what you want.
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  You want people to have a good experience in a restaurant,
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  not one where they're like terrified of whether they take out money
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  to give it to random homeless people who might
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  assault them and their children while they're in a pizza restaurant.
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  That's not what you want.
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  Well,
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  panhandling no longer allowed inside of Starbucks.
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  Now,
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  will they enforce these things?
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  I don't know,
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  but I will say it's a massive change.
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  You no longer can just go hang out at Starbucks.
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  The policy has changed back to essentially what existed back before
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  April
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  of 2018.
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  That's a really good thing.
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  We're seeing more and more changes going this way.
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  We don't know what the reasoning is exactly,
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  but we can all kind of take a little bit of a guess.
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  American Airlines investing strategy has violated federal law,
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  says a judge.
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  This is one of those things where
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  a federal judge in one of the country's foremost.
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  Conservative district courts ruled Friday
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  that American Airlines unlawfully incorporated environmental and sustainable
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  governance ESG factors into its employee retirement plan.
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  In a 70-page ruling following a four day non-jury trial,
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  Judge Reed O'Connor
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  of the North District of Texas ruled that the airline violated its fiduciary duty
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  of loyalty by letting asset manager BlackRock
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  weigh environmental factors and 401k funds.
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  So what they promise is,
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  hey,
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  this is your retirement.
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  You get to invest it and what we'll do is we'll hire somebody
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  to
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  to manage this fund
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  in a way that gets you the highest returns.
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  And then in the middle of all that they decided,
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  well,
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  what if instead we
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  give it to solar companies,
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  whether they're successful or not,
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  because
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  what we want is not the best returns but
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  returns that are good for the earth or whatever.
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  Well,
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  you can't just do that,
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  and now they're getting slapped down
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  in court.
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  This is there's a piece by Chris Bedford up on the site Blaze Media.
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  Of course,
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  at the blaze.com,
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  something you should subscribe to if you haven't already.
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  There's plenty of road left for the pilot's class action and others,
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  but the implications are clear.
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  ESG investing is no longer a safe space.
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  Corporate directors and state officials looking to invest their
• 12:49
  401ks will all be looking at their own vulnerability.
• 12:52
  This is a good thing,
• 12:54
  pushing back on companies like BlackRock that expose them to potential liability.
• 12:59
  The real battle
• 13:00
  is going to be in employment,
• 13:01
  but that's still a big,
• 13:02
  big news even if it isn't over.
• 13:03
  And that's the thing.
• 13:04
  Why is this happening?
• 13:05
  Well,
• 13:05
  that's the kind of explanation number one.
• 13:07
  Legal threats against these companies.
• 13:10
  When these companies are terrified
• 13:12
  that they're going to get sued for their policies,
• 13:14
  they tend to change them to more.
• 13:15
  Fair universal ones that don't deal with all these controversial
• 13:20
  issues.
• 13:20
  That's not it
• 13:21
  though.
• 13:22
  Pfizer also must face a lawsuit over diversity fellowship programs,
• 13:25
  says a US court.
• 13:26
  The US appeals court on Friday revived a lawsuit by
• 13:29
  a conservative group opposed to diversity initiatives in medicine.
• 13:32
  That challenged a Pfizer fellowship program designed to boost the pipeline
• 13:36
  of black,
• 13:37
  Latino,
• 13:37
  and Native American people in leadership positions at the drug maker.
• 13:41
  At the urging of the group Do No Harm,
• 13:43
  a 2 to 1 panel of New York-based
• 13:46
  2nd US Court
• 13:47
  of Appeals
• 13:48
  revisited a decision it issued last year,
• 13:50
  holding that the organization lacked legal standing
• 13:53
  to challenge the drug maker's program.
• 13:55
  In court,
• 13:55
  basically they just admitted a pretty large mistake in their ruling and revised it.
• 14:00
  The earlier decision had raised the bar for groups like Do
• 14:02
  No Harm to pursue similar cases on behalf of their membership
• 14:06
  by finding that they needed to identify
• 14:08
  members who were affected by the alleged discrimination
• 14:11
  they were suing over by name.
• 14:12
  Do No Harm and other conservative advocacy groups had
• 14:15
  urged the second group to reconsider that holding.
• 14:17
  Which they said would chill civil rights litigation by exposing
• 14:21
  individuals to harassment and retaliation if their identities were revealed.
• 14:25
  Of course this would be true.
• 14:26
  If you come out and and you and your name's in the media
• 14:30
  and people know who you are,
• 14:31
  you're going to get targeted in a myriad of ways.
• 14:33
  So this is the way to avoid that.
• 14:36
  There should be some shield
• 14:39
  for people who want to bring claims like this.
• 14:41
  Um,
• 14:41
  so we're seeing,
• 14:42
  and we've brought up,
• 14:43
  I mean,
• 14:43
  a dozen or two examples.
• 14:44
  Uh,
• 14:44
  I know Walmart was one of them.
• 14:46
  Uh,
• 14:46
  McDonald's just did this.
• 14:48
  Of course,
• 14:49
  you also have Facebook,
• 14:50
  which is kind of the biggest high profile one,
• 14:52
  saying,
• 14:52
  uh,
• 14:52
  we're not doing these fact checking things anymore.
• 14:54
  We're not going to stop you from questioning people's gender.
• 14:56
  You think Caitlyn Jenner is still Bruce Jenner?
• 14:59
  Well,
• 14:59
  I mean,
• 15:00
  we might not agree with you at Facebook,
• 15:01
  but.
• 15:02
  We're going to still let you talk about that
• 15:03
  online because that's what people are talking about.
• 15:05
  That's the conversation among regular people and that's what we want to host.
• 15:08
  We'll see if these things wind up
• 15:09
  having a shelf life
• 15:11
  beyond the inauguration,
• 15:12
  right?
• 15:13
  Uh,
• 15:13
  the inauguration is right around the corner,
• 15:14
  and that's another potential explanation for all of this.
• 15:18
  Look,
• 15:18
  Donald Trump's coming into power,
• 15:20
  he's threatened a lot of these companies,
• 15:21
  get your act together or I'm coming after you.
• 15:24
  And so they're quote unquote getting their act together,
• 15:26
  whether they mean it or not.
• 15:28
  Again,
• 15:28
  either one of these things that I've brought up so far and any of the others
• 15:31
  uh that we've talked about on previous shows,
• 15:34
  they're all good.
• 15:36
  Whether it's a real conversion for Mark Zuckerberg,
• 15:38
  or he's terrified of lawsuits,
• 15:40
  or he's terrified of Donald Trump trying to enforce the actual Constitution,
• 15:46
  or whether it's just generalized pressure from the people,
• 15:50
  whatever it is,
• 15:51
  is a positive outcome.
• 15:53
  Now,
• 15:53
  not every company is going to do this.
• 15:55
  Real left wing companies will stick by
• 15:57
  their DEI nonsense,
• 15:59
  at least until they wind up getting burned in court by it.
• 16:02
  And that's OK,
• 16:03
  I think,
• 16:04
  you know,
• 16:04
  I don't necessarily like it,
• 16:06
  but like if you're going to be an outward left wing company that
• 16:08
  has no desire to bring in any conservative or even moderate people,
• 16:12
  um,
• 16:12
  yeah,
• 16:12
  you know,
• 16:13
  you could probably do some of these things.
• 16:15
  Um,
• 16:15
  that's the line,
• 16:16
  the real,
• 16:17
  real,
• 16:17
  and you're going to have conservative companies that never did it,
• 16:19
  right?
• 16:19
  We talk about them a lot on the air as they're sponsors of the show.
• 16:23
  The bigger issue is these sort of medium companies,
• 16:27
  these
• 16:28
  companies that have always operated under
• 16:30
  old timey
• 16:32
  capitalism,
• 16:32
  McDonald's,
• 16:33
  Walmart,
• 16:34
  these are companies that shouldn't be trying to please the ESG beasts,
• 16:38
  the DEI beasts.
• 16:39
  They should be trying to sell you crap.
• 16:41
  And if you make good products and if you want our products,
• 16:43
  you can come get it.
• 16:44
  That should be where they are.
• 16:46
  They are starting to turn back to that.
• 16:47
  I think we even saw that with Budweiser.
• 16:49
  You're not going to see that with Apple though.
• 16:51
  Apple
• 16:51
  is backing its diversity policies,
• 16:53
  calling anti-DEI proposal restricting.
• 16:56
  Apple Board
• 16:57
  of Directors has recommended shareholders vote
• 16:59
  against a conservative think tank's proposal
• 17:01
  to consider scrapping the text's diversity,
• 17:03
  equity and inclusion initiatives.
• 17:06
  National Center for Public Policy Research
• 17:08
  notified Apple in September that it intends
• 17:10
  to submit an anti-DEI proposal at Apple's
• 17:13
  annual shareholder meeting on February 25th.
• 17:15
  If passed by shareholders,
• 17:16
  it would require Apple to consider
• 17:18
  eliminating some or all of its DEI policies,
• 17:21
  but
• 17:22
  Apple said the proposal
• 17:23
  inappropriately attempts to restrict and micromanage company operations.
• 17:27
  Policies.
• 17:28
  The company also said it has a well established compliance program
• 17:31
  and its board actively manages business and legal conduct
• 17:35
  to ensure it complies with laws
• 17:37
  in multiple jurisdictions.
• 17:39
  I mean,
• 17:40
  that's obviously corporate speak,
• 17:41
  but they want to keep that and they want to keep
• 17:43
  their DEI proposals and probably will be able
• 17:46
  to
• 17:47
  for a long,
• 17:48
  long time
• 17:50
  unless courts shoot it down,
• 17:51
  which is possible at this point.
• 17:54
  But what's fascinating about all of this is the the.
• 17:57
  The reaction to Starbucks was so
• 18:00
  ridiculous.
• 18:02
  They closed all their restaurants to racial bias training.
• 18:06
  Um,
• 18:07
  it was so ridiculous at the time,
• 18:08
  and it felt ridiculous to us at the time,
• 18:11
  but it didn't feel ridiculous to
• 18:13
  half the country,
• 18:13
  maybe even more at the time.
• 18:15
  A lot of people said,
• 18:16
  yeah,
• 18:16
  this is the right thing to do.
• 18:17
  Oh wow,
• 18:18
  it's good.
• 18:19
  Look,
• 18:19
  racism is bad,
• 18:20
  and even if this isn't really their fault,
• 18:22
  this particular incident,
• 18:23
  you know,
• 18:23
  hey,
• 18:24
  what's the problem with closing down your restaurants for a day and
• 18:26
  focusing on racism.
• 18:27
  Racism's bad.
• 18:28
  And of course racism is bad,
• 18:30
  but it's also bad to close down your restaurants and act
• 18:33
  as if you have a racism problem if you don't.
• 18:36
  This sort of like
• 18:37
  kneeling at the altar of DEI,
• 18:40
  this weird.
• 18:41
  The
• 18:42
  ritual that a lot of companies got into in the past 5 or 6 years
• 18:47
  is so insultingly stupid to so many people
• 18:49
  and now is actually starting to turn around.
• 18:52
  That's a real,
• 18:54
  real positive.
• 18:54
  You wonder,
• 18:55
  is the pendulum
• 18:56
  swinging back?
• 18:57
  I think the answer to that is yes.
• 18:59
  I keep thinking of this as a long journey and
• 19:02
  there's a peak of all of this nonsense,
• 19:04
  and then it will slowly start to go away.
• 19:07
  I think we're at that period where it's slowly starting to go away,
• 19:10
  but it is not gone
• 19:12
  yet,
• 19:13
  and
• 19:14
  the road that all of this goes to,
• 19:16
  if it is not.
• 19:17
  Turned around.
• 19:18
  If you let DEI and CRT and ESG
• 19:23
  and so many other things,
• 19:24
  environmental causes,
• 19:25
  all this nonsense that they've been pushing forever on the left,
• 19:28
  if you let it go and you let it go and you
• 19:30
  let it go and you don't stop it and it just keeps continuing
• 19:33
  to pick up steam
• 19:34
  like a snowball going down the hill,
• 19:35
  getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger,
• 19:37
  what happens to you
• 19:39
  is what's happening to California.
• 19:42
  That's what happens to you.
• 19:43
  You might say,
• 19:43
  well,
• 19:44
  my entire city is going to burn down
• 19:46
  if,
• 19:46
  if I,
• 19:47
  you know,
• 19:48
  stick with ESG and DEI.
• 19:49
  Yes.
• 19:50
  Yes,
• 19:51
  it will,
• 19:52
  it will.
• 19:52
  It might not look exactly like California.
• 19:54
  It might not be
• 19:54
  actual fire.
• 19:56
  It might be something a little bit different,
• 19:58
  but yes,
• 19:59
  your cities will burn down.
• 20:00
  They might burn to the ground the way Detroit burned to the ground.
• 20:03
  It didn't actually need a fire
• 20:05
  to crumble.
• 20:06
  And in California,
• 20:07
  yes,
• 20:07
  you have the literal example of everything that happens when you have
• 20:11
  unobstructed progressive leadership over a long period of time.
• 20:15
  When that happens,
• 20:16
  yes,
• 20:16
  your city does burn to the ground.
• 20:18
  I'm sorry,
• 20:19
  that is the way it ends.
• 20:21
  Every single time,
• 20:22
  it might look a little bit different,
• 20:23
  it might not be as hot.
• 20:25
  You might not have to dodge
• 20:27
  actual flames,
• 20:28
  but you'll probably be dodging
• 20:29
  criminals and bullets and crime and corruption and
• 20:34
  you know
• 20:35
  a downtown that looks like a nuclear bomb went off in it.
• 20:39
  That's reality.
• 20:41
  That's where this goes.
• 20:42
  And you ask yourself the question,
• 20:44
  why are they doing this?
• 20:47
  Is it
• 20:48
  fear of legal repercussions,
• 20:49
  maybe?
• 20:50
  Is it an honest change,
• 20:53
  maybe?
• 20:54
  Is it fear of Donald Trump?
• 20:56
  Maybe,
• 20:57
  but I think more than fear of Donald Trump,
• 20:59
  what we're seeing now
• 21:00
  is the fear
• 21:02
  of common sense returning to America.
• 21:04
  These people aren't
• 21:06
  in the habit of just adopting conservative policies or even neutral ones.
• 21:10
  They want to go left if they can get away with it.
• 21:13
  But a lot of these companies now are forced to go back
• 21:15
  to the center,
• 21:16
  or maybe even to the same.
• 21:20
  Why?
• 21:20
  Because that's where you live.
• 21:22
  They want you
• 21:23
  and they know they can't have you
• 21:25
  if they act insane.
• 21:27
  And
• 21:28
  again,
• 21:28
  no matter what policy,
• 21:30
  no matter what idea,
• 21:32
  no matter what
• 21:33
  explanation you come up with
• 21:34
  to explain what is going on
• 21:36
  with companies and the media,
• 21:39
  and
• 21:40
  you know sometimes even some Democratic representatives are going,
• 21:44
  I mean look at John Fetterman is an example of this.
• 21:47
  The reason you're seeing that is not,
• 21:49
  it's,
• 21:49
  it's not,
• 21:50
  I don't think fear of Donald Trump,
• 21:51
  it's fear
• 21:52
  of the American people and the common sense that they hold.
• 21:55
  But no matter what,
• 21:56
  honestly,
• 21:57
  explanation you come up with,
• 21:59
  the end result
• 22:00
  is good.
• 22:01
  It's positive.
• 22:02
  It's,
• 22:03
  you know,
• 22:03
  this is,
• 22:04
  you might say,
• 22:04
  well,
• 22:05
  these aren't even real conversions for these companies,
• 22:08
  right?
• 22:08
  I don't expect a real conversion.
• 22:10
  I would love a real conversion.
• 22:11
  It would be great if,
• 22:12
  if,
• 22:12
  if,
• 22:12
  if American companies just embraced free speech again.
• 22:15
  That would be great,
• 22:16
  but
• 22:17
  And I'll root for that every single day.
• 22:18
  I'm going to root for it with Mark Zuckerberg.
• 22:20
  I hope it is legitimate,
• 22:21
  but even if it isn't,
• 22:22
  this is why
• 22:24
  a few weeks ago,
• 22:25
  it's cold outside,
• 22:27
  you decided to go out to the voting booth,
• 22:29
  right?
• 22:29
  That's why you did that.
• 22:30
  You did that to create an environment in which
• 22:33
  these companies and America
• 22:35
  would move,
• 22:37
  right?
• 22:37
  They're doing this to kowtow to you because you spoke out.
• 22:41
  You sent a message and that message was freaking received.
• 22:45
  That is a really positive story
• 22:48
  as we end
• 22:49
  this new,
• 22:49
  uh,
• 22:50
  we end last year and go into a new year.
• 22:52
  So we're gonna talk about that.
• 22:53
  There's some changes in the media that I think are positive as well.
• 22:56
  We'll talk about those with Rob Eno.
• 22:58
  He's next.
• 23:09
  So we hit our 1000 episodes,
• 23:11
  uh,
• 23:11
  uh,
• 23:11
  I don't know,
• 23:12
  a few days ago,
• 23:13
  and uh we did do a list of our top,
• 23:16
  uh,
• 23:16
  most frequent guests.
• 23:18
  And on that list,
• 23:19
  on the blaze side,
• 23:21
  number 5.
• 23:22
  Is
• 23:23
  Pat Gray,
• 23:23
  but also Rob Eno tied at 30 appearances.
• 23:27
  Rob is here for number 31.
• 23:28
  Rob,
• 23:28
  welcome to the program.
• 23:29
  Thank you for having me.
• 23:30
  I,
• 23:30
  I feel that if Pat wasn't sick,
• 23:32
  you know,
• 23:32
  didn't go into the hospital and almost die from the diabetes,
• 23:34
  I probably would have been on the list.
• 23:36
  Right,
• 23:36
  right,
• 23:37
  right.
• 23:37
  And you've been nice that he's still here,
• 23:38
  so you've been,
• 23:38
  uh,
• 23:39
  not on the verge of death the entire time,
• 23:41
  so you've been able to do it and we appreciate your concern.
• 23:44
  Who's Dan Andros?
• 23:44
  I don't know.
• 23:45
  Oh,
• 23:45
  he's just,
• 23:46
  is he a Blaze,
• 23:46
  he's a Blaze guy.
• 23:47
  He was a,
• 23:48
  well,
• 23:48
  yeah,
• 23:48
  he was a Blaze guy.
• 23:49
  I think it counts.
• 23:50
  I think it counts.
• 23:51
  I,
• 23:51
  I've had some pushback on that one.
• 23:52
  But,
• 23:53
  uh,
• 23:53
  I mean,
• 23:54
  the other thing was we put,
• 23:55
  put Dan on the other list and then he'd be way ahead on the other list.
• 23:58
  He'd be like 81 and Drew Holden had us like 18.
• 24:01
  So he'd have a huge massive list.
• 24:02
  I don't know,
• 24:02
  it's,
• 24:03
  you know,
• 24:04
  look.
• 24:04
  Let's put Dan on his own list.
• 24:06
  Top Andros,
• 24:07
  uh,
• 24:07
  guest named Andres.
• 24:08
  Yes,
• 24:08
  there we go.
• 24:09
  Um,
• 24:09
  let me talk about some of the bottom feeders
• 24:11
  in our media rather than the top echelonist yourself.
• 24:14
  Uh,
• 24:14
  Jen Rubin,
• 24:15
  she is at the Washington Post.
• 24:17
  Uh,
• 24:17
  you look at the media stuff all the time and,
• 24:19
  and like I,
• 24:19
  I see a lot of Jen Rubin stuff online.
• 24:21
  A lot of people retweet her tweets.
• 24:23
  She's kind of a real,
• 24:25
  um,
• 24:26
  object of scorn of most online right people.
• 24:30
  Um,
• 24:30
  and they always refer to her as the conservative columnist over at Washington Post,
• 24:34
  and,
• 24:35
  and
• 24:36
  it's been so long,
• 24:37
  I don't even remember.
• 24:38
  Was she at one point a conservative?
• 24:40
  Yes,
• 24:41
  she was the conservative columnist at The Washington Post.
• 24:43
  I mean,
• 24:44
  I think she stopped being conservative in 2002,
• 24:47
  which might have been like two days after she got the job.
• 24:48
  I don't know what she got,
• 24:49
  but like it,
• 24:49
  it's,
• 24:50
  yeah,
• 24:50
  it's a long time.
• 24:51
  She's a RhiIO.
• 24:53
  A bushy,
• 24:54
  quote unquote conservative,
• 24:55
  a compassionate conservative,
• 24:57
  like,
• 24:57
  yeah,
• 24:57
  the things I hear her say though have nothing
• 25:00
  to do with even Bush conservative or even like
• 25:03
  mild Republicanism.
• 25:05
  Like she just seems like a hardcore liberal and ever,
• 25:07
  ever since I can remember seeing her stuff online.
• 25:10
  That's all I can remember.
• 25:11
  I,
• 25:11
  I think,
• 25:11
  I think
• 25:12
  she's a,
• 25:12
  a neo-con,
• 25:13
  she's a pro-Israel,
• 25:14
  pro,
• 25:15
  you know,
• 25:16
  global war on terror type
• 25:17
  conservative,
• 25:19
  which
• 25:19
  isn't where the movement obvious,
• 25:21
  I mean,
• 25:21
  they're pro-Israel,
• 25:22
  but isn't where the,
• 25:22
  the bulk of the movement is now,
• 25:24
  right?
• 25:24
  She's,
• 25:25
  I think like many conservatives,
• 25:26
  like,
• 25:27
  you know,
• 25:27
  Bill Kristol,
• 25:28
  um,
• 25:29
  other people,
• 25:30
  other other people used to be like the stalwarts of the conservative movement.
• 25:33
  I mean they,
• 25:33
  they had the Weekly Standard,
• 25:35
  Once upon a time.
• 25:36
  Trump
• 25:37
  broke them and that's what happened to Jen Rubin.
• 25:39
  Trump
• 25:39
  absolutely
• 25:40
  broke broke
• 25:41
  because that does seem like the transition time for her,
• 25:43
  right?
• 25:43
  Like she was,
• 25:44
  you know,
• 25:45
  I'm not saying like.
• 25:47
  You know,
• 25:47
  she was some hardcore conservative,
• 25:48
  but she had some Republican leanings up until Trump.
• 25:51
  She's turned as sort of a never Trump
• 25:53
  Republican
• 25:54
  and was branded that way for a while,
• 25:55
  but over time really just turned into a really far left Democrat,
• 25:59
  right?
• 25:59
  I mean,
• 25:59
  how could you dare question that anything was wrong with any elections because
• 26:03
  our government is the greatest people on the face of the earth?
• 26:05
  I mean she's a process person.
• 26:07
  She's a
• 26:08
  like,
• 26:08
  like those like the 2000s
• 26:12
  Republicans were.
• 26:13
  They believe in quote unquote good government and
• 26:16
  The government would never lie to you and
• 26:17
  like the boomercon stuff where they're like,
• 26:20
  oh man,
• 26:20
  no,
• 26:21
  the government would never.
• 26:22
  I just see a distinction between
• 26:24
  Someone who was,
• 26:25
  you know,
• 26:25
  pro-Bush,
• 26:26
  pro-Iraq war,
• 26:27
  that still believed in low taxes and still was,
• 26:31
  you know,
• 26:32
  against Roe versus Wade,
• 26:33
  right?
• 26:34
  Right.
• 26:35
  Jen Rubin doesn't show any of the signs of those things.
• 26:37
  No,
• 26:37
  I don't think she ever was.
• 26:38
  I think,
• 26:38
  I think it was,
• 26:38
  yeah,
• 26:39
  I don't think she ever was.
• 26:40
  She was probably in the Christie Todd Whitman,
• 26:43
  right?
• 26:43
  I mean,
• 26:44
  I think that if you put an R next to your.
• 26:46
  Name
• 26:47
  you were considered a conservative
• 26:49
  because you were to the right,
• 26:51
  right,
• 26:51
  yeah,
• 26:51
  and I think that that's where she got the conservative because like what's the lady,
• 26:54
  the name,
• 26:55
  uh,
• 26:55
  lady that I this name escapes me,
• 26:57
  who is on The View,
• 26:58
  who they always say it was like ran Republican Ana Cardenas,
• 27:02
  is it Cardenas,
• 27:04
  yeah,
• 27:04
  she,
• 27:04
  she did.
• 27:04
  She was a Navarro,
• 27:06
  Navarro Ana Navarro,
• 27:07
  yeah,
• 27:07
  she was a huge.
• 27:09
  Like Southern,
• 27:10
  South
• 27:11
  Miami,
• 27:12
  South Florida
• 27:13
  consultant,
• 27:14
  like,
• 27:14
  I think she was one of Jeb Bush's consultants.
• 27:16
  I mean she was a huge,
• 27:17
  yeah,
• 27:18
  yeah,
• 27:18
  and she actually was.
• 27:19
  Again,
• 27:20
  Trump
• 27:21
  broke her.
• 27:22
  And now she again never says anything that
• 27:24
  could be even associated with Jeb Bush conservatism,
• 27:26
  which again is not that conservative.
• 27:28
  But like,
• 27:29
  had a profile,
• 27:30
  right?
• 27:31
  Like Jeb was a heck of a lot more conservative than his brother was.
• 27:34
  Yeah,
• 27:34
  yeah,
• 27:34
  yeah,
• 27:35
  I mean,
• 27:35
  Jeb,
• 27:35
  uh,
• 27:36
  you go back,
• 27:36
  Jeb had a pretty good run as governor in Florida.
• 27:39
  Um,
• 27:39
  so
• 27:40
  Ruben,
• 27:40
  uh,
• 27:41
  Jennifer Rubin,
• 27:41
  she's the columnist.
• 27:42
  Again,
• 27:42
  we got kind of off track there.
• 27:44
  Jennifer Rubin supposedly.
• 27:45
  Republican columnist
• 27:47
  turns into this liberal in the Trump era
• 27:49
  and a really fascinating thing happened
• 27:51
  when the LA Times decided they were not going to
• 27:57
  say Kamala
• 27:58
  should be.
• 27:58
  They were not going to give her
• 28:00
  the honor
• 28:01
  of endorsing her.
• 28:03
  And
• 28:04
  Jennifer Rubin came out and was just like,
• 28:05
  I can't believe this.
• 28:06
  Why aren't these columnists leaving,
• 28:08
  you know,
• 28:08
  blah blah blah blah.
• 28:09
  She loses her mind over this.
• 28:11
  And then like two days later,
• 28:13
  her paper does the same thing,
• 28:14
  of course she stays.
• 28:15
  However,
• 28:16
  I guess it looks like this is finally over.
• 28:18
  Right,
• 28:18
  yes,
• 28:18
  she's leaving,
• 28:19
  she's starting some sort of.
• 28:21
  Um,
• 28:21
  viva la resistance
• 28:23
  blog of some sort and probably a podcast like a sub stack,
• 28:26
  yeah,
• 28:27
  they're all going to,
• 28:27
  everybody's going to sub stack,
• 28:28
  and it's actually there's some interesting stuff that's happened,
• 28:30
  happening on sub stack,
• 28:31
  um,
• 28:32
  but
• 28:33
  yeah,
• 28:33
  so she's going to sub stack with some other person and it's gonna be,
• 28:35
  you know,
• 28:36
  they're going to.
• 28:37
  Like the bulwark and all of those other former Republican,
• 28:40
  former conservative writers are going to stand athwart history
• 28:44
  and stop Trump from becoming Hitler.
• 28:46
  I mean,
• 28:46
  so,
• 28:47
  you know,
• 28:47
  we got that.
• 28:47
  I'm sure it's going to work too.
• 28:49
  There you go.
• 28:49
  Well,
• 28:49
  Trump's not going to become Hitler,
• 28:50
  that's what I mean.
• 28:51
  He's not.
• 28:51
  So they're gonna,
• 28:52
  it's going to be successful for them apparently
• 28:54
  because he's not going to turn into Hitler.
• 28:56
  OK,
• 28:56
  let's go over to MSNBC.
• 28:57
  Now MSNBC.
• 28:59
  Is,
• 29:00
  uh,
• 29:00
  kind of
• 29:01
  moving in this interesting direction as well because what you
• 29:03
  can say about the LA Times and The Washington Post
• 29:06
  is both of their moves,
• 29:07
  I think were in good directions.
• 29:08
  Like I don't
• 29:09
  have hope
• 29:10
  for these necessarily for these papers long term,
• 29:13
  but like
• 29:14
  not endorsing liberal candidates every single time they're up,
• 29:16
  I think is a good move,
• 29:17
  even if you don't mean it.
• 29:18
  It's at least it's sending the signal to your audience you're trying to be neutral,
• 29:22
  right?
• 29:23
  Um,
• 29:23
  MSNBC is kind of going the other direction.
• 29:25
  They're just like,
• 29:25
  all right,
• 29:26
  we're embracing this,
• 29:26
  we're going full resistance.
• 29:28
  They're bringing Rachel Maddow
• 29:30
  back even though she already works there every night
• 29:31
  like instead of like the one night a week.
• 29:33
  It's kind of like the,
• 29:33
  what was it,
• 29:34
  the John,
• 29:35
  the Jon Stewart,
• 29:35
  I only,
• 29:36
  I only do one night a week during the,
• 29:38
  the election,
• 29:39
  host of The Daily Show.
• 29:40
  So yeah,
• 29:41
  so they're bringing her back,
• 29:42
  um.
• 29:43
  It
• 29:44
  it makes sense.
• 29:45
  I mean they,
• 29:45
  they
• 29:46
  carve out that niche.
• 29:47
  Fox,
• 29:48
  Fox carves out
• 29:49
  from the right and then CNN tries to be in the middle.
• 29:51
  They never are.
• 29:52
  They're more further to the left.
• 29:54
  But you know,
• 29:54
  there's,
• 29:55
  as long as you're honest about it,
• 29:56
  I don't care.
• 29:57
  Yeah,
• 29:57
  I think that's true.
• 29:58
  If you're,
• 29:59
  and I think that they get to be honest with,
• 30:01
  with Comcast spinning off MSN.
• 30:03
  NBC
• 30:03
  them becoming their own channel.
• 30:05
  I mean,
• 30:05
  they'll have a contract with NBC News,
• 30:07
  but I don't think they'll be as entwined with NBC News as they once were,
• 30:11
  as they are now.
• 30:12
  I mean,
• 30:12
  MSNBC is basically NBC News.
• 30:14
  It's a,
• 30:15
  it's a
• 30:16
  cable arm of NBC News.
• 30:18
  Chuck Todd's leaving NBC and MSNBC,
• 30:20
  so he's gone.
• 30:21
  He doesn't even have his like,
• 30:22
  they,
• 30:23
  they threw him like in a corner somewhere after
• 30:25
  they took Meet the Press away from him.
• 30:26
  Um,
• 30:27
  he's gone.
• 30:28
  Um,
• 30:28
  and he may be too,
• 30:30
  you know,
• 30:30
  old school,
• 30:31
  straight,
• 30:32
  even though he's super left,
• 30:33
  he's not,
• 30:34
  you know,
• 30:34
  AOC progressive left.
• 30:36
  And that's what they're going to.
• 30:37
  They're going to become viva la resistance.
• 30:39
  Do you think,
• 30:39
  Rob,
• 30:40
  this works again?
• 30:42
  Because I think you could argue in 206,
• 30:44
  2017 to 2021,
• 30:47
  Trump is president,
• 30:48
  MSNBC goes to this like we're just gonna be super anti-everything,
• 30:52
  so does CNN.
• 30:53
  And I would
• 30:54
  take out,
• 30:56
  forget journalism,
• 30:57
  forget the truth,
• 30:58
  uh,
• 30:59
  forget the human decency,
• 31:02
  just go to business.
• 31:03
  I think it works for them for that time,
• 31:05
  like their ratings are up,
• 31:06
  they've got a lot of big advertisers,
• 31:08
  they,
• 31:08
  they,
• 31:08
  all their programs are kind of hot.
• 31:10
  Um,
• 31:11
  they,
• 31:11
  they increase their ratings.
• 31:12
  Trump goes away,
• 31:13
  their businesses all dissolve.
• 31:15
  Does this work again
• 31:17
  for them?
• 31:17
  I think it nichely works.
• 31:18
  I don't think that the vast quantity of America going to walk.
• 31:22
  I've never heard the word nichely.
• 31:23
  It's a great word.
• 31:24
  It's not a malaproper,
• 31:26
  so I,
• 31:26
  you know,
• 31:26
  make up my own words.
• 31:27
  It's OK,
• 31:28
  yeah,
• 31:28
  yeah,
• 31:28
  but I,
• 31:28
  I like niche niche wise it works.
• 31:31
  Maybe that's the more correct adverb.
• 31:33
  I like nichely.
• 31:33
  I think we stick with it.
• 31:34
  Um,
• 31:35
  works,
• 31:36
  and I think that they see it.
• 31:37
  I mean,
• 31:37
  we,
• 31:37
  there's all kinds of,
• 31:39
  we,
• 31:39
  we're in an.
• 31:40
  We have consumers of media that grew up with iPods that will
• 31:43
  do exactly what they want to hear in a very narrow sense,
• 31:47
  and I think that that works for them,
• 31:48
  right?
• 31:48
  I think that that works for MSNBC,
• 31:50
  that,
• 31:50
  you know,
• 31:50
  you're talking in a very narrow sense.
• 31:52
  Now will advertisers come as as hard as they did?
• 31:55
  I think you're seeing,
• 31:57
  um,
• 31:57
  with Meta stopping fact checking at some point in time in the future.
• 32:00
  I mean,
• 32:00
  you'll remember we at the Blaze
• 32:02
  stopped advertisements because we couldn't have people weren't running
• 32:06
  ads on our site because of the fact checkers,
• 32:08
  right?
• 32:08
  Um,
• 32:09
  so we completely
• 32:11
  went to a subscription-only model,
• 32:12
  and thank you to all of our subscribers who subscribe and help us,
• 32:15
  you know,
• 32:15
  pay the bills.
• 32:16
  Um,
• 32:17
  so we went to that subscription model without
• 32:19
  advertising on the written side.
• 32:21
  We still have advertising,
• 32:22
  um,
• 32:23
  on podcasts and things like that,
• 32:24
  but we don't
• 32:25
  on the written side,
• 32:26
  and I think that.
• 32:28
  Who knows if that comes back to us,
• 32:29
  right,
• 32:30
  with a lot of these fact check checking
• 32:33
  organizations getting millions of dollars.
• 32:34
  I think Facebook spent $100 million
• 32:36
  on fact checking since 2016 to,
• 32:38
  to fund these people
• 32:41
  to,
• 32:41
  to stop truth from coming out.
• 32:43
  I mean that,
• 32:43
  that,
• 32:44
  that's the end.
• 32:45
  Um,
• 32:45
  it could be because it's interesting because,
• 32:47
  you know,
• 32:47
  I mean,
• 32:48
  Zuckerberg's,
• 32:49
  um,
• 32:50
  presentation of what occurred during the Biden era
• 32:53
  is both informative and obviously false,
• 32:55
  right?
• 32:55
  Like.
• 32:56
  Yes,
• 32:57
  I think it is informative to hear that he's complaining about Biden,
• 33:00
  and these calls were made and these emails were sent
• 33:03
  harassing people at Facebook.
• 33:05
  You know,
• 33:05
  his presentation of it is like they told us to pull true stuff down and we wouldn't.
• 33:09
  It's like,
• 33:10
  OK,
• 33:10
  that's not true because you did,
• 33:12
  because I mean we could have Daniel Horowitz on here and
• 33:14
  talk about that for hours and hours and they still are.
• 33:17
  I mean right now this isn't even in place yet,
• 33:20
  but on the other hand,
• 33:21
  like it does seem like.
• 33:22
  A real signal of something that's changing.
• 33:24
  I was just talking about this in the last segment.
• 33:26
  Like
• 33:26
  these companies,
• 33:27
  whether they mean it
• 33:29
  or they just feel like they're afraid of Trump
• 33:31
  or they feel like they're afraid of the American people,
• 33:33
  or they just feel like they're reading the room and they think the room is changing,
• 33:36
  whatever is changing them and then making
• 33:39
  these public anti-DEI statements and policy changes,
• 33:42
  that's really good.
• 33:43
  Well,
• 33:43
  it's very good,
• 33:44
  and a lot of it's on the anti anti-DIEI stuff.
• 33:48
  It's
• 33:51
  sorry,
• 33:51
  DIE with the DEI.
• 33:52
  It's like it's,
• 33:53
  it's litigation.
• 33:56
  The America First Legal Foundation has been
• 33:59
  very successful in suing these companies to stop it.
• 34:01
  You see American Airlines,
• 34:03
  the pilots union,
• 34:05
  just sued
• 34:06
  successfully American Airlines
• 34:09
  for.
• 34:10
  Being too woke in their directment of funds
• 34:13
  and because they were supposed to be fiduciary responsible
• 34:16
  for the 401k funds of the American Airlines Pilots Union
• 34:20
  and they were not
• 34:21
  and they underperformed the market
• 34:24
  and a judge said no,
• 34:25
  American Airlines,
• 34:26
  you have to make up the difference.
• 34:28
  Yeah,
• 34:28
  so that,
• 34:29
  so they're winning in courts.
• 34:31
  It was DEI funds.
• 34:32
  It was,
• 34:32
  you know,
• 34:32
  woke
• 34:33
  ESG
• 34:35
  type funds,
• 34:36
  and I think that that is driving this more.
• 34:38
  The,
• 34:39
  the whole thing that you
• 34:41
  interview seven,
• 34:43
  African American or,
• 34:44
  or Hispanic or whatever they are,
• 34:47
  or LGBTQ
• 34:49
  tri-gender
• 34:50
  people before you interview a white guy
• 34:53
  is patently unconstitutional.
• 34:55
  It,
• 34:56
  it's a it is discrimination in a different way.
• 35:00
  Now you can say that racism,
• 35:01
  if it doesn't,
• 35:02
  if you don't hold power,
• 35:03
  that's not what the Constitution says,
• 35:05
  right?
• 35:05
  That that's what your Harvard think tank
• 35:08
  says,
• 35:08
  but that's not what the law is,
• 35:10
  and a lot of this is more being driven by corporate America being scared to heck
• 35:15
  that they're going to get sued into oblivion
• 35:17
  than I think that it is with any
• 35:19
  concrete change in.
• 35:22
  You know,
• 35:22
  I'll be interested in how,
• 35:23
  if they can really do because like the,
• 35:24
  the Rooney Rule in the NFL pops to mind.
• 35:26
  Oh,
• 35:26
  I,
• 35:26
  I'm a Patriots fan.
• 35:28
  That was the most,
• 35:29
  it was the most embarrassingly
• 35:31
  ridiculous use.
• 35:33
  We all knew that Mike Vrabel was going to be the coach of the New England Patriots.
• 35:37
  We all knew that Mike Vrabel was probably gonna be
• 35:38
  the coach of the New England Patriots 6 weeks ago,
• 35:40
  right?
• 35:41
  I mean,
• 35:41
  the guy changed his social media profiles to have him in Patriots gear
• 35:46
  on the.
• 35:46
  Warning that Gerard Mayo
• 35:48
  coached his last game
• 35:50
  and they have black guys in to basically play minstrel.
• 35:53
  It's really ridiculous the awful for them.
• 35:55
  It's racist.
• 35:57
  The Rooney Rule is actually racist.
• 35:58
  Yeah,
• 35:58
  in case you don't know the Rooney Rule,
• 36:00
  like there's a requirement in the NFL when you're hiring a new coach,
• 36:02
  and it goes to the coordinators and stuff too,
• 36:03
  but you have to bring in two minority candidates.
• 36:06
  Um,
• 36:06
  and supposedly this is some woke rule that like
• 36:09
  makes more African Americans get hired or whatever,
• 36:12
  but like when you know you're going one direction,
• 36:14
  what the Patriots did was just fly,
• 36:16
  just
• 36:17
  pick a couple of African Americans that were,
• 36:19
  you know,
• 36:19
  we're qualified We're going to do the same thing with the,
• 36:21
  with the,
• 36:22
  with the offensive coordinator.
• 36:23
  We all know that Josh McDaniels is going to be the offensive coordinator.
• 36:26
  the New England Patriots,
• 36:26
  so they fly in,
• 36:27
  uh,
• 36:28
  you know,
• 36:28
  what was it,
• 36:28
  Leftwich and one other guy,
• 36:30
  and they just do these like fake interviews with them,
• 36:32
  and these poor guys have to fly in and listen to these interviews
• 36:34
  and do them even though they know they're not getting the job.
• 36:36
  It's so inherently stupid.
• 36:38
  At least during COVID it would have been a Zoom.
• 36:39
  Yeah,
• 36:40
  that's true.
• 36:41
  just a couple of minutes,
• 36:42
  that's true.
• 36:42
  I know they should just keep bringing back the Zoom for these guys.
• 36:44
  It's just unfair to them.
• 36:45
  Um,
• 36:46
  but you know,
• 36:47
  this is the,
• 36:48
  there's still remnants of this in our society,
• 36:50
  and we have to remember that.
• 36:51
  You have to keep fighting it because it's not gone yet.
• 36:53
  I do think we're over the hump a little bit,
• 36:55
  and that's positive.
• 36:56
  Rob Eno,
• 36:57
  who is over the hump into now 5th place solo.
• 37:00
  Pat Gracey's out.
• 37:01
  He's off the list.
• 37:02
  Pat is now 30 appearances,
• 37:05
  Rob at 31.
• 37:06
  Congratulations,
• 37:06
  Rob.
• 37:07
  Thank you,
• 37:07
  we've got to keep this up.
• 37:08
  I gotta do this.
• 37:09
  I love it.
• 37:09
  Uh,
• 37:09
  Robbie,
• 37:10
  you know,
• 37:10
  a resident media critic here at Blaze TV.
• 37:12
  Make sure to,
• 37:12
  uh,
• 37:13
  what should people subscribe?
• 37:14
  What do you,
• 37:15
  what should people subscribe to at The Blaze?
• 37:16
  Obviously Blaze email,
• 37:17
  just go to the email.
• 37:18
  Go to,
• 37:18
  go to blaze the blaze.com/newsletters.
• 37:20
  You get all our newsletters.
• 37:22
  I mean,
• 37:22
  we've got a great politics newsletter,
• 37:24
  um,
• 37:25
  with
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  Chris Bedford.
• 37:26
  Um,
• 37:27
  he's got a great newsletter that comes out,
• 37:29
  uh,
• 37:29
  3 times a week.
• 37:30
  We've got
• 37:30
  Liz Wheeler's got a great newsletter,
• 37:32
  um.
• 37:33
  That's great.
• 37:34
  We got a bunch of great stuff.
• 37:35
  We've got a lot of great news too lazy to do one.
• 37:36
  It's too much work.
• 37:37
  Liz is,
• 37:38
  Liz is a hard worker.
• 37:39
  I'm,
• 37:39
  I've been here too long.
• 37:40
  I'm too lazy to do.
• 37:40
  You've got like 4 shows.
• 37:41
  Yeah,
• 37:41
  that's true.
• 37:42
  That's a good point.
• 37:43
  That's a good point.
• 37:43
  Rob,
• 37:43
  thanks so much,
• 37:44
  man.
• 37:44
  Appreciate it.
• 37:44
  Thanks for having me on.
• 37:54
  Joe Biden is making a series of speeches about he
• 37:57
  kind of setting his legacy up here for the future
• 38:00
  as war rages in Europe and the Middle East.
• 38:02
  Biden delivers farewell foreign policy speech suggesting he made the world safer.
• 38:06
  Um,
• 38:06
  Obviously this is a completely insane point and not true at all,
• 38:09
  but I would add to it,
• 38:11
  isn't it amazing you didn't hear about it?
• 38:13
  Like,
• 38:13
  isn't
• 38:14
  what,
• 38:14
  what's supposed to be happening right now is
• 38:15
  a president is outgoing and that president.
• 38:18
  Uh,
• 38:18
  he is making all these big speeches and everyone's like,
• 38:20
  wow,
• 38:20
  this is,
• 38:21
  they're really dissecting his legacy.
• 38:22
  Actually,
• 38:23
  it feels like he was no longer president and hasn't been president in 6 months.
• 38:26
  That's what it feels like.
• 38:27
  So I,
• 38:27
  I,
• 38:28
  no one cares about that.
• 38:29
  Now Hag Seth is out there.
• 38:30
  He's,
• 38:30
  he did the confirmation hearing today.
• 38:32
  It was,
• 38:33
  you know,
• 38:33
  typical
• 38:34
  bizarre questioning from people like Kirsten Gillibrand,
• 38:37
  and,
• 38:37
  you know,
• 38:37
  it's typical,
• 38:37
  you don't like women,
• 38:39
  you don't like the LGBTQQIA 2+ community.
• 38:42
  That whole thing going on.
• 38:44
  They're coming after him saying,
• 38:45
  you know,
• 38:45
  all the allegations that we've covered on Hegseth,
• 38:48
  he seemed to handle himself very well.
• 38:50
  Unless there's a huge additional scandal or something else that breaks,
• 38:53
  I think he's got a pretty good chance
• 38:55
  of being
• 38:56
  confirmed,
• 38:57
  and that was not necessarily believed to be the thing.
• 39:00
  I mean,
• 39:00
  I remember looking at one of the
• 39:03
  markets like Calci or something,
• 39:04
  and it was like at 14%
• 39:06
  for Pete Hegseth to be confirmed.
• 39:09
  Uh,
• 39:09
  now,
• 39:09
  last I saw it,
• 39:10
  it was at 75.
• 39:11
  It's probably higher after today.
• 39:12
  We will,
• 39:12
  uh,
• 39:13
  see where that goes.
• 39:14
  Um,
• 39:15
  uh,
• 39:15
  the special counsel report,
• 39:16
  uh,
• 39:16
  came out.
• 39:17
  Jack Smith,
• 39:18
  um,
• 39:19
  huge,
• 39:20
  um,
• 39:20
  you know,
• 39:21
  a man of justice,
• 39:22
  OK.
• 39:23
  Special counsel report says that Trump would
• 39:25
  have been convicted in the election case.
• 39:27
  The report,
• 39:28
  which says special counsel's effort stood fully
• 39:31
  behind the merits of the prosecution,
• 39:32
  amounted to an extraordinary rebuke
• 39:35
  of the president-elect,
• 39:36
  and basically like they just came out and said,
• 39:38
  ah,
• 39:38
  he would have been guilty.
• 39:40
  You know,
• 39:40
  like it's like,
• 39:41
  oh,
• 39:42
  well,
• 39:42
  you lost the Super Bowl.
• 39:43
  Well,
• 39:43
  we would have won
• 39:44
  if we didn't get all those bad calls
• 39:46
  and all our players weren't hurt and we had talented players and,
• 39:50
  and we had a good game plan and good coaching and
• 39:52
  a stadium that we play the game in,
• 39:54
  and,
• 39:55
  uh,
• 39:55
  you know,
• 39:55
  we actually knew what football was.
• 39:57
  Uh,
• 39:58
  that's kind of where he is right now,
• 39:59
  the sort of pleading to please remember me more positively than you otherwise will.
• 40:04
  He's now resigning and everything else,
• 40:05
  uh,
• 40:06
  but that's basically all it was.
• 40:07
  I mean,
• 40:07
  it was just basically him saying,
• 40:09
  You know,
• 40:09
  he was going to,
• 40:10
  uh,
• 40:10
  he,
• 40:11
  he would have had the convictions that he was not able to actually get.
• 40:14
  Uh,
• 40:14
  and finally,
• 40:15
  uh,
• 40:16
  John Fetterman.
• 40:18
  That's a bizarre story.
• 40:19
  Anything with John Fetterman's always bizarre.
• 40:21
  Um,
• 40:21
  but John Fetterman,
• 40:22
  uh,
• 40:23
  he had a meeting with Donald Trump,
• 40:24
  said he was a common sense person.
• 40:26
  He's not liberal or conservative,
• 40:27
  he's just a common sense person,
• 40:29
  which is beautiful.
• 40:30
  Uh,
• 40:30
  that's what Trump said,
• 40:31
  excuse me,
• 40:31
  about,
• 40:31
  uh,
• 40:32
  Fetterman.
• 40:32
  Um,
• 40:33
  and then,
• 40:34
  um,
• 40:35
  uh,
• 40:36
  he said,
• 40:36
  Trump said it was a totally fascinating meeting.
• 40:38
  He's a fascinating man,
• 40:39
  his wife is lovely,
• 40:40
  they were both up,
• 40:41
  I couldn't be more impressed.
• 40:43
  He said,
• 40:44
  Fetterman said he's the senator of
• 40:46
  all Pennsylvanians,
• 40:47
  not just Democrats in Pennsylvania.
• 40:48
  I will say,
• 40:49
  you know,
• 40:49
  Fetterman was one of those guys like looking at his past
• 40:52
  and projecting that into his time in the Senate.
• 40:54
  First of all,
• 40:56
  it didn't seem like he was mentally or physically able to do the job,
• 40:59
  and I would kind of stand by that one.
• 41:01
  I don't think.
• 41:02
  He certainly should have been
• 41:03
  elected by any means,
• 41:05
  and I do think that he still has pretty severe health problems that can hamper him,
• 41:09
  though he has recovered at some level.
• 41:11
  I think the risk was there
• 41:13
  to not elect him,
• 41:14
  but otherwise I kind of also looked at his belief history and really thought
• 41:18
  he was going to go kind of AOC in the Senate in Pennsylvania.
• 41:22
  He has not been that,
• 41:23
  to be fair,
• 41:23
  that's that's something I definitely got wrong over
• 41:25
  the 1st 1000 episodes of the show.
• 41:27
  He has not,
• 41:28
  at least operated that way.
• 41:29
  Now his voting record is still very liberal,
• 41:31
  but he's been good on things like Israel.
• 41:33
  He's been open to certain aspects
• 41:36
  of sanity.
• 41:37
  It's not,
• 41:38
  look,
• 41:38
  he's a Democrat,
• 41:39
  and I'm still going to disagree with him on a lot of things,
• 41:41
  but he's been better than expected.
• 41:43
  I would say the same thing about Kirsten Sinema.
• 41:46
  Better than I expected
• 41:47
  when she was in the Senate.
• 41:49
  So that's kind of where we are right now.
• 41:52
  Who knows what he's going to vote for tomorrow?
• 41:53
  I do think he's wrong on still 90% of things,
• 41:55
  but 90% of things from a Democrat being
• 41:58
  wrong on is actually a really positive development.
• 42:00
  If we could get more 90% wrong Democrats,
• 42:03
  the country would be in a much better position.
• 42:04
  I mean,
• 42:05
  if they could be right on 10% of things,
• 42:06
  it would be a freaking miracle.
• 42:08
  So we'll look forward to that turning around
• 42:10
  with all the other Democrats in the Senate
• 42:12
  very,
• 42:12
  very soon.
• 42:25
  America's team,
• 42:25
  the Philadelphia Eagles,
• 42:27
  are going to be taking on the Los Angeles Rams
• 42:29
  on Sunday in the divisional round of the playoffs.
• 42:31
  One interesting development from the previous game for the Eagles
• 42:34
  is AJ Brown,
• 42:35
  their star receiver,
• 42:36
  uh,
• 42:37
  quite possibly the best receiver in the NFL,
• 42:38
  arguably he's in the top 3 or 4 for sure.
• 42:41
  Um,
• 42:41
  and he was on the sidelines,
• 42:43
  uh,
• 42:43
  reading a book.
• 42:45
  During the game,
• 42:46
  and people were freaking out.
• 42:47
  A lot of,
• 42:47
  I,
• 42:47
  I heard a lot of commentators were like,
• 42:48
  this guy is,
• 42:49
  I can't believe he's,
• 42:50
  he's all mad at not getting the ball,
• 42:52
  and so he's just over there reading a book,
• 42:54
  acting like he doesn't care.
• 42:55
  Uh,
• 42:56
  not at all true,
• 42:57
  and none of them bothered to look into actually the situation considering he was,
• 43:01
  has been reading this book for a long time on the sidelines.
• 43:04
  Including in games where he got the ball a lot and scored a lot of touchdowns,
• 43:07
  um,
• 43:08
  but the book's name was Inner Excellence,
• 43:10
  Train Your Mind for Extraordinary Performance and the Best Possible Life.
• 43:14
  It's by Jim Murphy
• 43:16
  and is now
• 43:17
  soaring to the top
• 43:18
  of Amazon.
• 43:20
  Because,
• 43:21
  yeah,
• 43:21
  because of people like me.
• 43:22
  I,
• 43:22
  I almost bought it,
• 43:23
  not yet.
• 43:23
  I,
• 43:24
  I,
• 43:24
  I just don't want it to be too new agey,
• 43:25
  so I,
• 43:26
  I gotta check out.
• 43:26
  Is it new agey?
• 43:27
  Or is it like cool things to learn about yourself and how to,
• 43:30
  I don't know.
• 43:31
  I'm gonna,
• 43:31
  I'm gonna,
• 43:31
  I'm gonna do that analysis.
• 43:33
  I'll let you know if I wind up purchasing it.