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The Skol Hop: Episode #1 · The Skol Hop

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Hey, welcome in Vikings fans. We are in the first episode of
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the skull hop and got Austin over here with me.
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Lulu. I'm Evan and we're just a couple
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of dudes from Iowa. We love the Vikings.
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Hence the school and we love beer.
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Hence, the Hop School, my friend School, It was a little bit of a
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reach but we got it, we got it. Yeah, so as I said, this is our
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first episode and we want to just start out the right way by
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making sure that you The Listener know that we've got
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this tradition that we are going to only drink Iowa beer while we
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record our episodes. So today, why is that Evan?
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Why only I would be R because we live in Iowa or I will boys.
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Yeah. Okay that's right.
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I mean I'm not an Iowa native you are.
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Yeah that's correct. Yeah.
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But for all intents and purposes, Iowa is my home state
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and you're one of us have? Yes, I moved to the great
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mediocre. South.
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Wow. Minnesota is pretty great, but
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yeah, I was, I was okay. I was pretty good.
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It's good enough. Yeah.
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All right. And they make good beer.
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Yes they do. You got to tell us what we're
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drinking that today. So tonight we are drinking a
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beer from an Iowa Brewery, big Grove in Iowa City.
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We're drinking their West Eddie D.
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It's an American IPA and it's delicious if I do say so myself.
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Yeah, it's early. May right now, as of this
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recording and it's got a little bit of a tropical vibe to it and
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Italy deaf getting me, ready for summer.
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Let's go school, it's good school.
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So we wanted to take it just a brief minute here, not because
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we're so self-absorbed to think that you care about us, but we
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did want to introduce ourselves because it is our first podcast
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episode and we wanted to just give The Casual listener some
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context. So I'm going to let Austin
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introduced himself. And we also wanted to talk about
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our Journeys to becoming a Vikings fan.
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So tell us about yourself and your journey to Vikings fandom.
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Thanks. Oh so yeah, I'm Austin.
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I am a 32 year old Vikings fan so I haven't seen all of the
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heartache, but I've seen some of it and it's only molded me.
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Me into the Vikings fan. I am today.
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Yeah. And I have three young children.
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Who I am. Also subjecting to this
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wonderful life of Vikings fan Hood.
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I have bribed them and now they are conditioned to know that
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every time the Vikings win, they get ice cream which you've
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turned my kids on that as well. It's not just gorgeous also.
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Yeah, I love ice cream too. So it's a good tradition.
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It is. It's a great tradition and I
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still there was some bear Video on the NFL.
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I think some Jets Pan kid talked about how his dad got him ice
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cream whenever the Jets won. So, I stole that idea, but I
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like it my kids love it. And last year, it worked pretty
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well. They got 13 ice cream, 13:13,
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ice creams, right? Maybe less this year.
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My kids were in on a few of those as well.
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Yeah, went to your house for a few games.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And it's so much so that even just a week ago I turned on it
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was just a slow. I don't even know what day it
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was, slow day. Yeah.
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And we're all just hanging out at the house and I turned on the
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YouTube TV replay of the Vikings Colts game.
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You know, just the greatest comeback in NFL history.
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Amazing. And I started at the second half
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and my son said, if the Vikings win, we get ice cream.
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And you know what? We got ice cream that day, it
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was good at your hat, we did. But yeah even if it's just a
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replay. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, that was A great game. We can hold have a whole episode
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on that game itself. But CI, my journey to becoming a
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Vikings fan. So I'm a born and raised in Iowa
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Eastern, Iowa and my family are not huge sports fans, not huge
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football fans, definitely not Vikings fans.
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If it would have been anything without any intervention, I
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probably just would have defaulted to like the Bears or
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something, just because they're the closest geographically to
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us. And what were we about?
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10 years old, 10 years old, Evan had the great opportunity of
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moving from the great state of Minnesota, to the also great
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state of Iowa, in my town and we met each other.
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We went to the same church and you know, when you're friends
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with someone from church in your kid you kind of end up falling
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into the oh you come to my house after church or I'll go to your
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house after church and on Sundays days when we would go to
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Evans house after church, the Vikings were playing.
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Oh yeah. So I'm bright-eyed and young and
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impressionable and I fell in love with what probably like the
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2001 version of the Vikings 2000 2000, 2001 2002.
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So I know you got Chris hoeven. You got Randy Moss, you got
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Michael Bennett, I think was the running back in the time.
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Just the Great's. Dante was in there too.
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Oh man, and I fell in love. Carter was still around, I think
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so. I think so.
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That was quite a while ago, to be honest.
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But yeah, slowly but surely I became a passionate Vikings fan
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so much so that sometimes I'm probably more of a passion if I
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can say in the new web, that that's accurate.
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Yeah, no no shade but yeah, no, no and no.
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Shame. On my part.
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I've created this monster thanked about this many times, I
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appreciate it. So yeah.
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That's that's my Vikings. Fan Hood origin.
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Evan, tell us about yourself. Yeah, well similar to you.
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I'm the same age as you. I'm surprised that you disclosed
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your full age to the listening public.
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But yeah, it's no shame. All right.
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Yeah, I'm actually older than you by like four months
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something like that. But yeah, basically, same age,
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we graduated high school together and what's fun?
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I think about our friendship is that we've just kind of Always
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been around, you know, through middle school, high school
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college. And now, into adulthood, we've
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we've definitely forged our own paths into the world, but within
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the last year, my family, and I moved back to our hometown.
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We'd been away in a different community in Iowa, and made our
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way back to Eastern, Iowa to be closer to friends and Emily.
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And that's kind of what kick-started this whole podcast
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idea. And that's why we're sitting
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here in my basement, trying to record this tonight and yeah,
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but in terms of my Vikings fan Hood, it all began when I was
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born. I was born in the Twin Cities
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and my parents are passionate Vikings fans, but they are not.
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They are not like season ticket holder.
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I'm gonna paint my face. Every time I go to a game type
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of fan, you know, they are, they're very, they're very
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casual my parents. They try to go to a game a year
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and they haven't always gone to games.
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I am a little jealous. They were at the Minneapolis
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Miracle game. Yeah, I will forever be jealous
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of them everywhere. They were way up in.
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Nosebleeds. But they were there.
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They were in the building and my, my dad was texting me.
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He was like, people just don't want to leave.
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I was like, I know there, I would still be there if I had to
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turn in that game. That would be my residence.
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Like I can't just leave that feeling bury me at the anything.
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But yeah, so the Vikings have always been a part of my story.
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They've always been a part of my life.
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I've gone through the best and the worst I think.
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For Me the the best Vikings ears and even maybe even arguably the
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best season in franchise history, 1998 15.
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And one that was really, when I started to come of age as a
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Vikings fan and started to understand what football was.
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I was eight going on nine, maybe that's a good age to fall in
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love with football. Yeah.
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And to see the, the Vikings just Dominate.
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I mean that Thanksgiving game. I still go back and watch, Randy
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Moss had three catches three touchdowns and like 200 yards or
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something like that and it's like yeah.
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Like more than that Frazee. It was the most ridiculous stat
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line you'll ever see. And I didn't even understand all
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the nuances of stats. I just knew, wow, he's really
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good. So yeah, the Vikings have been a
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part of my life for a long time. And so, moving to Iowa, it was
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almost as if If like our fan Hood intensified in our family,
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when we moved to Iowa because now we were removed from the
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great state of Minnesota. And we were we were longing for
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more Vikings stuff and we just didn't have it.
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So my dad actually we joke about this all the time.
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My dad had an eBay user name called Viking fan.
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Iowa because he felt so isolated as a Vikings fan and Iowa.
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And I think at one point it was also our Wi-Fi username.
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But what's the password of, do you remember the?
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No, no, no, I had nothing to do with the Viking.
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Sure sure. I know that.
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But anyways, so yeah, that's a little bit about ourselves and
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just kind of how we entered into the crazy world of being
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Vikings. Fans.
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But being that this is our first episode and we early May of
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2023. We are now kind of I would say
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give or take about half way through the offseason and there
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are still some free agency moves that I think could be made
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definitely could there have been a few that quite a few that have
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been made and we also have the draft in the rearview mirror.
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Yeah, fresh fresh off the draft fresh off the draft like a week
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and a half ago. So I thought for our first
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episode we could spend some time talking about our favorite and
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least favorite Moves In free agency so far and then we'll
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move on to the draft and we'll just kind of dissect the pics
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that the Vikings have made and maybe the impacts we think they
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could make if they make the roster.
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Yeah moving forward. So let's start with the free
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agency. Austin tell us favorite free
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agency move and least favorite free agency move so far.
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Awesome so my favorite specific move from free agency was an
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early move. They made.
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I think, the first week of free agency, they addressed the
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cornerback position and they got Byron Murphy, who he kind of fit
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the theme of what you could call the quote unquote, big-name free
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agents that the Viking size. And he's a younger guy coming
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off, a younger guy who has had a lot of hype around him in his
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NFL career and has kind of Fallen just short of that hype
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of that mold, I think Byron Murphy has come closest to the
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hype that he's gotten in Arizona.
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When Pat Pete left, he kind of filled that role and he had a I
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think he had a pretty decent year.
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Last year, I don't have his number is right in front of me
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but especially with the state. Eight of the Vikings cornerback
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room and defensive back room as a as a whole before they signed
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him, it's much better with him in there and you hope that he
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earns the money, that that he made.
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You hope he makes a pretty good impact on that secondary.
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And hopefully in it's a three-year contract, hopefully
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three seasons from now, we're talking about how they had to
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sign him to a much bigger deal. So, that was my favorite.
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Initial free agency move. Do you want to know his Stalin?
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Yeah, let's hear it from 2022. Yeah.
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Keep in mind, one of those games was was against our against the
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Vikings and we were I was building one of two games that
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we were in attendance. We were there.
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That was fun. So Byron Murphy in 2022. 36
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total tackles. Okay, 29 solo seven, assists,
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half a sack. To Fumble returns.
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Or fumble, recoveries sorry FR. These abbreviations.
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Always getting 59 yards between those are you gonna do
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recoveries? So yeah.
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Okay. So I thought he had a couple
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pics in there but I guess not, but either way know that the sky
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is the limit for him and especially when you put him in a
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secondary that includes Harrison Smith, who just seems to be the
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coach on the field for the defensive backs.
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Absolutely. And you put them in a defense
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headed up by Brian Flores who hopefully he's a one-and-done
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Vikings coach because then that'll mean he's a Good
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defensive coordinator which we all know he's a good coach.
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And it's selfish to say, I hope Brian Flora stays for a handful
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of years, but he should do go with Byron Murphy and yeah,
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hopefully that bolsters that secondary and that's even before
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the draft which they made some moves there, too.
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What about your least favorite? My least favorite.
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My least favorite is just my least favorite because of my fan
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hood. And because in it hurts the
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Vikings fan in me. I get it from a dollar
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perspective. I get it from an on the field
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perspective but my least favorite move is that Adam
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thielen was released. I get I get that his cap number
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was way too high, and if he was honest, which I think he would
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be he probably has been in the media like he'd probably say
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like, yeah, for the on-field performance, the last really two
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seasons. And then when you compare it to
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the best, Wide receiver in the league on the other side of the
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field. JJ, Dillon was overpaid the last
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two years. But it just hurts because he's
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one of us. He's right at our age, he was
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jumping up and down at all the games that we were jumping up
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and down for when we were kids. And then then we were jumping up
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and down for him for 10 years. Like he's been the the feel-good
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story. He's been actually good.
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Not just like the local kid that happened to make the team like
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he's actually good. So It hurts to see him go but
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for him it's cool to see him latch on with another team and
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not just on like a one year minimum vet deal like he should
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do some good things in Carolina. Hopefully not in the game that
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the Vikings play him but yeah, and Byron Murphy has a good
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game. Maybe.
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Oh man. Can you imagine those two up
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against each other? Like yeah, just the revolving
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door. I'm in your out and here we go.
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But I hope he's a guy that he gets that one day contract to
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the Of his career you can argue the Ring of Honor maybe I mean
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he's maybe maybe not he's definitely not a Hall of Famer
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but I mean he's definitely a Vikings favorite and he never
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never gave that up. You're never worried about what
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he was going to do off the field or never concerned about your
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kids. Wearing his jersey or anything.
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Like he's just a good dude and it stinks to see him not on the
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team anymore. Yeah, absolutely.
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What about you have? What's your favorite free agency
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move? Move.
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Well I don't know it's hard to call this a free agency move
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maybe. But I mean this guy could have
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walked out the door pretty easily for more money for
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probably a lot more money. Yeah.
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And so my my favorite move is keeping here since Miss.
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I agree. I like that and and to me that's
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huge for all the reasons that you said about losing atoms,
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dealing on the flip side, it means a ton.
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On the keep a guy like Harrison Smith and I think I don't know
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after having some time to think about all this and process.
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You know what last season was you know and all the struggles
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that we had on defense specifically.
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I think if you're going to keep one of those franchise guys, if
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you had to choose between Harry and Adam, you got to, you got to
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pick the guy that's going to contribute on defense because
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the defense was your weak spot last year.
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You know? Like, we were just, we were
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bottom of the barrel defensively in almost every statistical
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category, and he has demonstrated Harry has
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demonstrated leadership, I mean, you even called him the coach on
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the field. And I think that's a pretty
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accurate statement. I think most coaches trust him
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to see and diagnose, and adjust. Yeah, I agree in the And he does
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that well, and not only that, but he, he coaches up the young
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guys and, you know, he takes him under his wing.
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And so I think Byron Murphy's coming into a pretty good
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secondary and it'll be pretty fun to see how how that
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relationship unfolds. And I don't know.
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I think, you know, when you talk about Vikings that are Ring of
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Honor candidates, I think he had, I'm feelin it Is one for
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sure. But I think Harrison Smith is
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also in that conversation. Oh absolutely.
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As soon as your 15 years from now and he's not on the Ring of
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Honor I'm furious. Yeah.
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Oh he's in the conversation as much if not more so than Adam
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thielen. And that's that's a I don't
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know. That might be a little bit of a
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hot hot take there because Adam feelin's the Minnesota kid who
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went to me and Kato who was undrafted.
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Yeah, I would You worthy story and they hopefully will make a
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movie out, even if it's a bad movie, A lot of it, I'd watch
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it. I'd watch it for sure.
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But yeah, I think my favorite move.
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You know, it's not going out and getting somebody necessarily,
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but keeping Harrison Smith is huge for our defense.
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We need that stability especially with a new defensive
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coordinator. You mentioned Brian Flores,
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great guy. Great coach has a lot of
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potential ahead of him and who knows?
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Maybe he does end up being a one and done here in Minnesota, and
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he moves on and and gets that head coaching job that.
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I think a lot of people think he deserves But we need that
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consistency. Who we need that captain on the
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field? Who can just continue to deliver
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Play and play out? I mean, he plays healthy
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percentage. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, I don't
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think he comes off the field very often and that means he's
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playing hurt a lot to write and Performing.
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Well, right. One and playing hurt but then
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probably also like practicing once a week.
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Yeah, maybe yeah. But hey, all that matters is
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Sunday. Yeah, or Monday through Friday
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Thursday. So, on the flip side, for me,
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you already mentioned Adam, thielen being released and that
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was tough. That was a really hard pill to
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swallow as like truly born and raised Vikings fan.
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You know, we just mentioned how he'd, you know, kind of worked
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his way up through Minnesota, high school football and then NK
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do football and then undrafted to the Vikings.
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Just that Cinderella story. That's that's tough to see him
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go. And again we wish him well.
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Oh absolutely. Except when we play them.
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Yeah. I don't even know with the
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schedule hasn't been released. You know.
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I forget, I think their home team this year, like I think we
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host we I think the Vikings host them.
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That's another conversation right there.
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That we conversation. I'll look that up as you as you
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keep talking about, Anyways in in this period of not being
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redundant, I looked at both the signings of Dean Lowrey in
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Marcus Davenport to be a little myth addressed now that's not to
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say that they couldn't have breakout Seasons with the
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Vikings but you consider who we've lost.
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Oh yeah. Upfront and who they're being
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replaced with Dean Lowrey and Marcus Davenport.
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Being two of those primary upfront guys that were getting
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in replacement of. I don't even remember who we
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lost sub K. Tomlinson he DT, he's gone got a
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good contract from the Browns. Yeah and then so Davenport being
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that I guess I see more of a defensive end.
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I'm just doing back here. I thought he was in the middle
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we should, but we should know that I wish.
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Yes, outside linebacker. But anyways, that whole
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defensive end linebacker position.
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I mean, there's, there's some question marks there.
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I mean, technically right now, he's the one outside linebacker.
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Okay, yeah, but technically right now is Darius Smith is
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still a Vikings linebacker. Will he be you know week one of
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the season I don't know. I think it's a little bit less
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of a question but still a question technically right now.
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Danil Hunter is still a Minnesota Viking and I hope he
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continues to be but that's still a question mark outside of that,
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that linebacker core and that defensive end core.
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Like there's some question marks and then when you say like the
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incoming guys, they're not pushing other guys out.
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You're not saying oh, thank God damn ports, here.
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Who cares? What happens with daniil Hunter?
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Like you're not saying that, right?
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Right? Well, and like, Davenport's
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numbers just aren't amazing. I don't think he recorded a sack
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last year. He got half-sack last year.
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Yeah, so a Half Stack, which I mean by her nerve, he's coming
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in with her. Right?
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There's that. And, you know, Dean Lowrey, he
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wasn't. Was he even a starter with the
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Packers? No, but I think, you know, when
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you sign Dean Lowrey, you're not signing him to be your starter.
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He's going to be in the room. He's going to be a rotational
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guy. But I don't think they signed
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him thinking he'd be, you know, number one, defensive tackle,
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but still, anyways, I think the money they're paying both of
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those guys and just, I don't know.
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There's something to be said for Making a Splash and free agency.
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I mean, if you're gonna go out and make moves in free agency,
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make some moves, you know, I coach, I coach track and
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cross-country and I coach kids to go out and make moves and Be
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bold, go go out and get the next person in front of you.
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Don't just sit back and wait for the slow kid to, you know, come
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up at the end of the race that you can easily pass like be
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bold, go out and pass the kid that you haven't beaten before
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and see what happens if you get in their head, you know, and I
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think that same principle applies in free agency, like, go
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out and make a bold move. Like if you've got the numbers
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to do it, if you got the money to do it, That's the thing and I
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know that's the thing. That's the hard thing is the
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salary cap issue. Mmm, but I don't know.
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I think between Lowry and Davenport.
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All that to say, I think one bigger move as opposed to two
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smaller moves, I don't know. We also have some good things
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coming up like you'd hate to sign the best defensive end in
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free agency this year. If it keeps you from being able
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to Offer Justin Jefferson deserved contract next year, so
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there's a lot of give and take. And I mean, people complain
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about all the time. First off, I'm, I'm a fan of
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Kirk Cousins and I don't mind how much money he makes because
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he provides that. But there's a lot of people that
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complain about how much he makes and it is a lot.
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It's a good percentage of the cap, but if you have a
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quarterback, you got to pay him a good percentage and sometimes
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that limits you from being able to sign big name.
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Any other position players indeed?
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Yeah and I mean I think we could probably make a whole episode on
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Kirk oh he's we could make a season off season's worth of
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podcasts on talking about Kirk and his play and his pay and
26:28
everything like that but we don't need to get into it now
26:30
because we still have to talk about the draft.
26:32
Yeah. But I mean he's not extended as
26:38
of right now. Yeah, there's some question
26:41
marks are too. There's a lot of Ian marks.
26:43
Yeah. But hey, if they have a lot of
26:46
question marks in 2024 and It's because of a great season in
26:51
2023. I'm okay with it.
26:55
I agree. I agree.
26:57
Well, we need to switch gears here.
26:59
We need to talk about the draft. Let's go.
27:01
And we need to talk about who we've drafted here and what that
27:09
means, moving forward. Yeah, so first off first round,
27:15
pick the USC wide receiver. I'm not a huge draft guy.
27:19
I don't do all the analysis before the draft.
27:22
If the Vikings were holding the top three, Pick.
27:25
I would know, I'd know the top five guys, you know, I would
27:27
know everybody and then we would know it.
27:29
So it's Matt Khalil this year you know, like we would know who
27:32
they're going to pick when you're in the 20s.
27:35
For me it's difficult to evaluate because then you got
27:39
trades. You got all kinds of stuff.
27:42
You can have a guide fall like will Levis.
27:44
I'm sure there were Vikings fans that were pounding the table for
27:47
will love us but I'm not going to lie.
27:50
I'd never heard of Jordan Addison from USC before Roger
27:55
Goodell said his name that night.
27:57
Obviously, I've watched all the highlights and he seems like he
27:59
could be really good and Adam thielen who, you know.
28:02
Like it seems like it could be a good pick.
28:06
But I mean it felt like they were neglecting the defense on
28:10
the first round that night hope. He's amazing.
28:13
I hope he's JJ's. The second coming of Justin
28:17
Jefferson. But yeah, what do you think?
28:20
What do you think about the Addison Pig?
28:21
Well, I'll just give you the live play-by-play version of my
28:29
learning of who the Vikings picked with that first round
28:33
pick. So I was in Des Moines, and I
28:38
was coaching, and we were staying in a hotel, and one of
28:42
my coaching buddies and I, we were watching the draft earlier
28:45
in the day. We're kind of following it, he's
28:47
a Bears fan. So we were kind of, you know,
28:50
watching it seeing in the early couple of pics.
28:53
What happened with the Bears? And we finally got back to our
28:57
hotel. I went to my room.
29:02
I started just dozing off and was trying to stay awake for the
29:06
Vikings pick, but I was really tired.
29:09
And I woke up right before the Vikings picked.
29:14
I watch to the Vikings picked. And I remember saying, some
29:19
swear words under my breath, and then I turned the TV off.
29:23
And I went to sleep, and that's all I remember from the first
29:28
round. But anyways, all that to say
29:31
after I I've had a chance to cool off a little bit.
29:34
I have watched a few highlights seen a few things on Jordan.
29:38
Addison he seems like a good pick.
29:41
No. Yeah in the first round
29:43
definitely talented. Definitely could be the yin to
29:47
the Yang of j.j. which we've now lost with Adam thielen but I do
29:54
think you know we made up for that with acquiring TJ who is
29:59
effectively our second round pick Yeah, this year.
30:03
And that was a huge. Get in the middle of the season
30:07
for the Vikings and he immediately was producing.
30:10
Yeah. Oh yeah.
30:11
Which was awesome. But anyways, yeah, I think.
30:18
Now that I've warmed up to the idea of a wide receiver in the
30:22
first round, I think he's gonna be okay, it'll be really
30:26
interesting to see how he develops.
30:28
And if he fits with Kevin O'Connell, System if he fits
30:33
playing kind of a second, fiddle role to JJ.
30:38
And it'll be interesting to see if he fits with guys like KJ
30:41
Osborne to because you know KJ really came on last season I
30:46
think effectively KJ was the number two.
30:49
Yeah. Oh yeah.
30:50
Maybe even stat wise he was number two behind J&J.
30:55
I don't know. I don't have the stats in front
30:57
of me but I know Adams production was down.
31:02
And KJ really had a phenomenal season, even if he was the true
31:07
number three, I thought he made a case a strong case for himself
31:12
to be. The number two guy.
31:15
Oh, I agree completely. And yeah, I think you're, you're
31:18
right on. I think this Addison pick only
31:22
only helps KJ because everything I've heard about Addison is the
31:27
two things. He's great in getting
31:30
separation, he's not the fastest probably doesn't have the best
31:35
hands of all the wide receivers. He wasn't the first wide
31:37
receiver taken but one thing he's really good at is being
31:40
great at getting separation. Which if you're open Kirk's
31:43
going to Find you. Yeah and the other thing is that
31:47
he's like a perfect slot receiver.
31:52
Which I mean, if you got JJ who can really play anywhere and
31:56
then KJ on the other side and then Jordan Addison and the slot
31:59
like that seems like it could complement all three of them
32:02
very well. Well and I mean we even saw JJ
32:05
out of the backfield a couple of times last year.
32:08
Yeah. Like and they were running some
32:10
of those trick plays where he'd throw the ball like they did
32:13
that too. Two or three times.
32:15
Yeah, that's a fun. When you see the wide receiver,
32:18
catch the ball, a few yards behind the line of scrimmage,
32:21
and they kind of look up, you're like, oh, what's going to happen
32:23
here? Kind of did JJ have any
32:26
completions last year? I feel like you had one.
32:28
I think he had one. There was one completion and
32:30
then one that was like, always, you would have completed that
32:32
and he didn't wasn't there. One attempted to Adam, I might
32:36
it's not worth talking about, but I may be remembering it
32:39
wrong, but maybe, but yeah, there were a few moments where
32:42
that That happens. But yes, I agree with you 100%.
32:47
He JJ can play anywhere. So to fill out the other spots
32:52
on the field with a guy like Jordan Addison.
32:54
I think all in all good move. We'll see how it pans out, you
32:59
know, you never know what you're going to get.
33:02
I mean, you don't know what you're going to get with the
33:04
first overall pick. Oh yeah.
33:05
Little. How many of those guys are
33:07
failed? Well, I'm just, it's, it's a
33:08
joke now, but look I'm sure. Eagles fans are really happy
33:11
too. Happy about Jalen.
33:13
Gregor, right. What four years ago?
33:16
Right in front of JJ, like you never know, never know what
33:19
you're getting. We didn't know.
33:20
I remember not knowing much about JJ until you and I were
33:24
texting. It was his rookie year.
33:27
I think the Vikings were playing the Titans and for whatever
33:31
reason, I couldn't watch the first half and you were texting
33:35
me a little bit about it and you're like, yeah, just in
33:37
Jefferson's kind of going off. He like could be, could be
33:42
something special. I was thinking like, Okay, evan
33:45
like he's had one good half like good job and here we are.
33:48
He's definitely the next coming. A training like surpassed Randy
33:52
Moss in its first three, she's breaking records.
33:54
Like you joke that he's better than Randy but like he's
33:56
breaking records and he's, yeah, he's a heck of an athlete.
34:00
So let's take these other five picks because we've already
34:04
talked about mmm, TJ Hawkinson, effectively the second round
34:10
pick. And then we didn't end up with a
34:12
sixth-round pick at All. But two picks in the fifth
34:14
round. We've got Makai Blackman in the
34:19
third round. Jay Ward, safety out of LSU in
34:22
the fourth. How do you pronounce jaquail
34:27
ingenious way of seeing so I believe it's Jack.
34:30
Whelan Jack, Whelan Roy. Nose tackle out of LSU, jarrin
34:35
Hall, the quarterback out of BYU and Duane McBride, the running
34:40
back out of UAB. Those were our remaining Picks,
34:44
who is a long-term fit for the Vikings and who gets cut before
34:51
training camp? Oh man.
34:53
So I mean obviously, you know, you follow Twitter and you see
34:57
all the hype right as the kids are being picked and as draft
35:01
day is going. So you don't get the sense.
35:03
Any of these guys won't make the team.
35:07
I feel like It would be a surprise for me.
35:11
If none of these six guys made the team or if not all of them
35:17
made the team, if that makes sense.
35:19
As disappointed, I was the first night that they didn't focus on
35:22
defense. I was pretty happy the next
35:24
three picks that, oh, it's pretty defensive heavy
35:27
cornerback safety, nose tackle. And when you have limited
35:30
resources, I thought they made a trade.
35:33
Their third round pick. They picked up like they moved
35:37
back, but they picked up two extra.
35:39
Oops, I think it was with the Niners, which ended up being a
35:42
really good trade, kind of set them with a little bit more
35:45
Firepower in the draft. But yeah, again, I'd never heard
35:50
of these guys before even, you know, the flashy position, the
35:53
quarterback position, never really heard a jarrin hall, so I
36:00
I hope they're all good. Jay Ward, the safety in the
36:04
fourth round. He kind of excites me because
36:08
following Twitter Act, Forget who posted this tweet, but they
36:13
said like, I'm doing some some film on Jay Ward.
36:17
This was after the draft and he said in the first half of the
36:20
first game that I'm watching of him, he's already played
36:22
linebacker. He's played cornerback, he's
36:25
played Safety, and they said, he liked blitzed off, the edge of
36:28
the edge of the line. So that guy seems like the true.
36:32
You know, Swiss army knife of being able to move around.
36:35
Yeah. Awesome.
36:37
And then there was a lot of excitement.
36:39
Payment when they they drafted Dwayne McBride the running back
36:42
in the seventh round, which I mean, maybe, I don't know, I
36:46
haven't even watch. Highlights of him, but people
36:48
were really excited about that. There's some question marks in
36:51
that running back room to I'm questioning why you'd sign
36:54
Alexander Madison, who I like, and who, I'm glad as a viking
36:58
questioning, why you'd re-sign him when you already have a
37:01
Dalvin cook up front, especially when Again, full disclosure my,
37:08
my thoughts on the running back room is that you don't need to
37:11
put a lot of money in that room. Those guys get injured a lot.
37:14
You just need some good athletes, young athletes and
37:16
then by the time, they're old enough for that second contract,
37:19
you just let him go. Yeah, well, yeah, you, and I've
37:22
talked a lot about that and how, you know, maybe, maybe it's time
37:26
for the Vikings to move on from Dalvin as great as he's been for
37:31
our organization. Mhm.
37:33
And Bring in Alex as that number one guy.
37:38
Give him that starting job and and have a Dwayne McBride or a
37:43
Canadian wongu or somebody to back him up.
37:46
Hmm. And just see what happens.
37:49
Yeah, it in that room to get off topic a little bit, the running
37:52
back position, could be surprising where it sits right
37:56
now. In May of 23 is not how it will
37:59
look in August or September of 2003.
38:03
And definitely in May of 24 will look back and be like holy cow.
38:07
That room is transformed. Yeah.
38:09
Oh yeah, but overall, I liked the draft, you never really know
38:13
what you have until a couple Seasons later.
38:17
The jarrin hall pick the quarterback in the fifth round
38:20
is intriguing just because you wonder what Casey and Kevin
38:26
O'Connell's plans are for that position.
38:28
Just because again, there's question marks in the future for
38:32
the quarterback position. I'm a Kirk fan.
38:35
But he's not going to be playing forever.
38:39
So you got to have a backup? Well I don't think Nick Mullens
38:42
is the qb1 for of the feature. Well and then you got to look
38:46
back at like some of the most successful quarterbacks in
38:49
recent history came out of those later rounds in the draft,
38:53
right? I mean you're thinking like Tom
38:55
Brady or no. Yeah, yeah.
38:57
Well Aaron Rodgers he's still a first rounder, okay.
39:01
But late first round yeah he fell but like the The Dak
39:05
Prescott who is, I believe a fourth rounder.
39:08
And then Russell Wilson who before this year, you know, it
39:12
was pretty good. He was a, what third round or we
39:14
don't need to talk about it after this year.
39:16
I think we'll, and then it's recent, and it'll never happen.
39:19
But for another 20 years with Brock / D, he had a pretty good
39:22
end of the season last year, and who knows?
39:24
Maybe it. He never gets back to that maybe
39:27
does. But, yeah, you're right.
39:29
There's talent to be found. We have, we have, we have some
39:31
ties to those Iowa, boys. Like Brock even We're not
39:36
geographically close to Iowa State, that's the only time we
39:39
have is geographically though. We live in Iowa, I don't know.
39:42
Brock pretty, it's true. I know people who know Brock
39:45
party. There you go.
39:47
So nice. It's like, less than six degrees
39:50
of separation from okay. Well you're just one more degree
39:53
on my line there. So they go school, just go, I
39:57
mean, I wouldn't mind if the Vikings picked him up.
40:02
Well, I mean, there's the flashy rumor of because of Brock party.
40:07
The Niners might be ready to move on from trailing aliens.
40:13
I'm open to these things, I don't care.
40:16
I mean if Brett Favre came out of retirement, the Viking signed
40:18
him and he won 15 games in a Super Bowl.
40:21
I don't care who it is. If they asked me to play and
40:24
somehow it would never happen and somehow I won the most Super
40:27
Bowl. Like I get anybody, I don't
40:29
care. You get a girl in there.
40:30
If she'll win the Super Bowl, I don't care.
40:31
Just give me a freaking Super Bowl.
40:33
We need a Super Bowl, yes. True, we've we've been to four
40:37
of them, none of them in our lifetime.
40:39
Oh yeah. I I don't want enclosed version
40:42
of myself. Watching a viking Super Bowl.
40:45
It's it'll be alone in a dark room, probably on my phone, just
40:51
your screaming, black fingers will be Rock.
40:54
Oh yeah, shoot them to a bloody pulp.
40:57
That'll be the couple of weeks before.
40:58
Let's get Let's get there. Oh man, I think all Vikings fans
41:03
are in agreement that a Super Bowl, would be awesome.
41:07
And hopefully, hopefully this draft class of Addison, Blackman
41:11
Ward, Roy Hall and McBride. Hopefully, they're the ones that
41:16
can let's go that can make a difference in the great white
41:21
North. Well, we've been talking for a
41:24
while so we should probably wrap this up here.
41:26
Let's go. Yeah, I mean we're just getting
41:31
started with this so we're trying to learn as we go
41:36
learning the ins and outs of the technical side of podcasting and
41:41
learning the ins and outs of what's most interesting to those
41:47
that are listening, but our hope is by the time the season rolls
41:51
around in the fall that we're To a point where we can be
41:56
recording, regular weekly episodes recapping previous
42:03
games, looking forward to the next week's games and everything
42:08
in between. But in the meantime we're going
42:11
to continue to kind of iron out the finer details of all this
42:15
and and see where this goes, but we do have some social media
42:20
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42:22
York. Very social media guy since you
42:24
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43:00
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43:33
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43:43
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43:49
I mean, we were sitting at a bar drinking a beer and we Said we
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44:13
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