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LNC Goes Direct to Video · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger or Drunk Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us, and I'm just keeping that in
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  Speaker 1: there and how very excited we are about them. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Ariel Caston, and with me, as always is the delightfully
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  Speaker 1: wonderful Jonathan Strictly.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to buy a vowel from Pat say Jack,
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  Speaker 2: but now it's too late. Oh no, wait, he's fine,
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  Speaker 2: He's fine. He just retired. Oh yeah, literally literally, his
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  Speaker 2: last episode of Wheel of Fortune is today.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He did it for forty one years, like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever remember him starting. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that you just you take
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  Speaker 1: for granted that it's always going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so he is a Hey, Pat, you've and
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  Speaker 2: yourself for retirement, buddy. Yeah. He has had a long
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  Speaker 2: career doing and mainly being known for one thing, which
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  Speaker 2: is pretty incredible in show business. So not like it's
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  Speaker 2: super geeky, although lots of geeky people have been on
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  Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune. But hats off to you, Pat Sajack.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, grammar is totally language
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  Speaker 1: spelling something like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's totally geeky, just guessing words like the game of Hangman.
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  Speaker 1: Like Hankman or wordle or spell checks or yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I always love the episodes where someone has uncovered
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  Speaker 2: like two letters and it's a phrase that's like seven
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  Speaker 2: words long, and they're like, oh blah blah blah blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and they're right, and you're just like.
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  Speaker 1: How because they're actually like AI androids and they're running
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  Speaker 1: all the possible like probabilities in their head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know.
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  Speaker 1: The machines have already taken over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It literally could have been a thing where the
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  Speaker 2: category popped up and the first thing that came to
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  Speaker 2: their mind just so happened to be the exact thing
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  Speaker 2: that was the hidden word or phrase. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: love those. There's there's quite a few. There's like a
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  Speaker 2: huge compilation online you can see of that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: which is always amusing. Well, we've got lots of stuff
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  Speaker 2: to talk about today, but I thought we should start
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  Speaker 2: off with talking about anything we've seen or done that's
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  Speaker 2: in the geek sphere since the last time we chatted,
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  Speaker 2: and Ariel, was there anything that you had I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know I put stuff in the light lineup, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 1: I completely forgot too, but I did watch some geeky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm one episode away from the uh from completing dead
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  Speaker 1: Boy detectives.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're further than I am now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like it and I actually do like
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  Speaker 1: I know you said that you you were more fond
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  Speaker 1: of the supporting characters than the main characters. I do
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  Speaker 1: like the main characters. I think those actors are good,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they hit the right emotional notes. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the the writing is uneven because there's some
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  Speaker 1: very very dark stuff and then there's some very comedic
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  Speaker 1: stuff and it doesn't always tonally match up. It doesn't,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine. You can have different tones in a show.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, it doesn't feel like it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's blended well together. So like some of the
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  Speaker 1: villains are very snarky and just have a very like
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  Speaker 1: comedic crass, different tone than the rest of the show.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think as far as storylines go, because
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like Monster of the Week, right.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: That some of the some of the plot lines result
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  Speaker 1: quicker than I think they actually would. And I think
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  Speaker 1: the story should take more time on it, and some
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  Speaker 1: of the plot lines, like one of the plot lines
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  Speaker 1: with the main character. I think it's a good plot line,
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  Speaker 1: but it takes all season to get there, And I'm
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  Speaker 1: like you, it didn't need to take all season. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like you're rehashing the same stuff because
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  Speaker 1: you want to draw it out.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Like it might have served the show
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  Speaker 2: better if they had resolved that particular storyline perhaps a
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  Speaker 2: little earlier, and maybe introduce something else like Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: reminded of of Supernatural, which frequently would have this kind
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  Speaker 2: of issue where once you get past the first season
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  Speaker 2: of Supernatural, here's how every season of Supernatural plays out.
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  Speaker 2: For the first maybe third of the next season of Supernatural,
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  Speaker 2: it's the characters slowly coming to terms with the choices
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  Speaker 2: they made at the end of the previous season and
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  Speaker 2: and mostly not talking to each other about it until
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  Speaker 2: you get about a third of the way in. From
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  Speaker 2: that point forward, it ends up becoming about a new
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  Speaker 2: big bad that they will eventually face down at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the season, and each episode itself tends to
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  Speaker 2: be relatively self contained, with perhaps light ties to the
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  Speaker 2: bigger arcs. That sounds to me like what Dead Boy
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  Speaker 2: Detectives is, except of course it wasn't like two different
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  Speaker 2: major storylines playing out as kind of one big one. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: why do you think about My favorite character? Is that?
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  Speaker 1: Jenny the Butcher, the Witch.
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  Speaker 2: She's my favorite character.
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  Speaker 1: She's interesting, she's I like her because, you know, half
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  Speaker 1: the time when I watch a show, I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: studying it too, right, I'm studying the art and the
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  Speaker 1: craft and all that, and just her choices to create
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  Speaker 1: this very like she has a character that is like
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  Speaker 1: three different archetypes maybe four put together. But every time
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  Speaker 1: I expect her to fall into a specific trope, she
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  Speaker 1: kind of twists it a little bit, so she keeps
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  Speaker 1: me on my toes and I like that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she comes across a very cartoonish in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of episodes, like cartoonishly evil. But like I kept wanting
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  Speaker 2: to see her get her just desserts because she's a
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  Speaker 2: truly terrible person. Yeah, she's she is awful. She's like
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  Speaker 2: Mother gothel but worse, and I really wanted to see
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  Speaker 2: her get her come up and spent. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: I loved her delivery so much, Like she's so terrible
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  Speaker 2: and I want to see her defeated, but I love
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  Speaker 2: every moment she's on screen. So that was to me, like,
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  Speaker 2: like what a great portrayal of a villain, Like it
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  Speaker 2: made me think of pro wrestling as everything does, where
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  Speaker 2: the whole point of the bad guy in pro wrestling
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  Speaker 2: is that you want to make the crowd hate you
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  Speaker 2: so much that they're willing to pay to see you
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  Speaker 2: get beaten. That's like your job if you're a bad guy.
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  Speaker 2: And I felt like she knew the assignment right, like
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  Speaker 2: she took that and she's like, Okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be a really wacky, weird bad guy. And she in
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  Speaker 2: the episodes I saw, she has been.
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  Speaker 1: How many have you watched? Because I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: spoil anything.
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  Speaker 2: I got to the point where, probably about five or
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  Speaker 2: six episodes in, I got to a point where I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to give too much away, but a minion
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  Speaker 2: of hers is actively attempting to insinuate himself between the
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  Speaker 2: two detectives.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the actors are like, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: a good actor, but I don't think his character was
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  Speaker 1: written super strongly because it feels cw in a show
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  Speaker 1: that isn't feeling super CW to me, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can totally get that, Like, I only have seen a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of his performance, like I think two episodes
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  Speaker 2: that like he was introduced in one and then he
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  Speaker 2: kind of starts to really try and insinuate himself starting
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  Speaker 2: with the next one. Yeah, and I've seen those two
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  Speaker 2: and maybe the beginning of the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Have you met the Walrus character.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I love him.
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  Speaker 1: I love him so much.
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  Speaker 2: He's great. Googoo Guchew is great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like it is interesting, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: only other thing is like some of it is very
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  Speaker 1: very dark and kind of gross, and for those moments,
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  Speaker 1: because again, some other parts of it are so light,
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  Speaker 1: it really does make me just feel uncomfortable watching.
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  Speaker 2: It sometimes, like like the again, not to give away anything,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a i'll call it the groundhog Day episode
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  Speaker 2: because there's a loop that plays. Yes, that was a
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  Speaker 2: very dark episode, the loop episode.
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  Speaker 1: It was, But there were also some things in there
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  Speaker 1: that were tonally like maybe they were trying to cut
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  Speaker 1: the tension, but I was like, this doesn't feel.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like it fits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: can see that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but also on the same hand, like that
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  Speaker 1: particular storyline, and that like the Dead Boy Detective, the
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  Speaker 1: one from the eighties, his particular storyline because they kind
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  Speaker 1: of reveal it during that episode, are both the kind
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  Speaker 1: of storyline where I think it is the emotion behind
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  Speaker 1: it is very real, like in a way that if
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  Speaker 1: you've been through well, not the same, not the same
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  Speaker 1: experience as what was looping in that story, but if
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  Speaker 1: you've been in a similar dynamic that led up to
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  Speaker 1: that point, it's it's it can like hook at your trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So we're dancing around it because it
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  Speaker 2: is a series worth watching. I mean, even the issues
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  Speaker 2: I had where I did not feel a connection to
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  Speaker 2: either of the two detectives, I enjoy the show and
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy, like I said, I still enjoy all the
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  Speaker 2: performances of all the supporting characters, including the human psychic,
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  Speaker 2: the living Psychic. She's great. She is she. I felt
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  Speaker 2: more connected to her than either of the detective characters.
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  Speaker 2: But you also said Jenny the Butcher. The one thing
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  Speaker 2: I know about Jenny the Butcher is she's played by
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  Speaker 2: Kaylee Kuoko's sister.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which doesn't I would not be able to tell
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  Speaker 1: they were related unless someone.
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  Speaker 2: Told me, there's a little bit around the eyes. I
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  Speaker 2: can see it around the eyes. I can I see
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  Speaker 2: the resemblance. But also they put her in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of tattoo makeup and that, Yeah, that throws me because
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  Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way she actually has a
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  Speaker 2: butterfly tattoo on her throat, right, And I had to
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  Speaker 2: look up a picture like, Okay, no she doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's good tattoo work. Yeah, So I mean it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's it is dark. I do think it is. It's
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  Speaker 1: well done. I love who they replaced Death with because
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  Speaker 1: I know last time we talked about it, you said
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  Speaker 1: Death only showed up in the first episode, but they
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  Speaker 1: kind of subbed in another character for her, and I
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  Speaker 1: like that. I like that actress. She was also in Supernatural.
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  Speaker 2: And they also have they have a character who it's
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  Speaker 2: not just the same character, but it's the same actress
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  Speaker 2: who played the character from uh Doom Patrol because the
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  Speaker 2: the essentially the agent of Death. I can't remember what
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  Speaker 2: her characters. It's the nurse night nurse. Yeah, it's same
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  Speaker 2: same actor, same part from the Doom Patrol episode. So
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of funny too, that there's that consistency of
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  Speaker 2: performer and character from one production to the other.
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  Speaker 1: But she played nurse in Doom Patrol.
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  Speaker 2: She did as she's I mean she's She.
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  Speaker 1: Also played kind of antagonist in Supernatural. I love that actress.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she's great. I mean she's very She comes
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  Speaker 2: across as very intimidating and kind of scary because it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those characters who is obsessed with following rules.
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  Speaker 2: Whether those rules make sense or are compassionate or not,
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  Speaker 2: like that doesn't matter. So she's like very lawful, neutral
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  Speaker 2: in the terms of D and D.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, have you finished? Have you finished? I know
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  Speaker 1: we've harped on this way too long. We don't even
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  Speaker 1: know if they're getting a second season yet. Have you finished? Sandman?
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  Speaker 2: I did not, I'm I so I started watching out
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  Speaker 2: the Fall of the House of Usher and ended up
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  Speaker 2: binging that entire series, so.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm guessing it's good.
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  Speaker 2: Good is a hard word to use for that series.
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk about it in a moment, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you're finished yet, So I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go off on fall of House
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  Speaker 2: and of course follow the House of Usher has been
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  Speaker 2: out forever. I just finally got around to watching it
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  Speaker 2: because I like Mike Flanagan's work. I love the Haunting
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  Speaker 2: of Hill House. I thought Midnight Mass was really great.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch I didn't watch the one. What was
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  Speaker 2: the one that was based off the young adult novels
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  Speaker 2: Midnight Midnight Society. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Some
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  Speaker 2: like that, Yeah, I haven't seen that one. But I
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  Speaker 2: decided because I also like Eggar Allen Poe watch Fallow
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  Speaker 2: the House of Usher and I'll talk about it more
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  Speaker 2: in a second, But before I do, are there any
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  Speaker 2: other things you wanted to bring up? And no, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't finished that.
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  Speaker 1: Man, it's the Midnight Club because Midnight Societies from Are
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  Speaker 1: you afraid of that arc?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I had to check myself. I was just going to
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  Speaker 1: say that there's a little bit more, sam man Tayan.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a spoiler if
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  Speaker 1: you haven't finished one and then you finished the other.
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  Speaker 1: I also have been watching more. It's been a very
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  Speaker 1: busy week the past few weeks for me, but I've
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  Speaker 1: also been watching more Dragon Ball z Kai and the
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  Speaker 1: theme song is a banger now and it is stuck
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  Speaker 1: in my head. That, along with the viral I keep
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  Speaker 1: a little dirt under my pillow for the dirt Man
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  Speaker 1: TikTok song. Those are both just stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 1: I'll share it with you later.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the reason she said that is because I gave
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  Speaker 2: a weird look into the camera because I'm old and
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  Speaker 2: don't have TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Dragon Ball ze Kai has not necessarily gotten better.
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  Speaker 1: It's still ridiculous, but the theme song is delightful.
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  Speaker 2: Like it hasn't gotten better, but I continue to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's one of those things where it's like,
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  Speaker 1: partially I kind of MST three k at a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and then partially it's just nonsensical. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: think about it fun.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There's no judgment
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  Speaker 2: on my part. Lord knows, I watched all of season
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  Speaker 2: one of Velma. I can't judge anyone for what they watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is not me judging you. This
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  Speaker 1: is just me sighing it the fact that it exists.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And I didn't watch I only watched the first
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  Speaker 2: episode of season two, and I so far have managed
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  Speaker 2: to resist the urge to watch any more of that show.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm so proud of you. Yeah, maybe I'll hear
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  Speaker 2: something from someone saying no it ends up being amazing,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I should watch it, but that
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  Speaker 2: hasn't happened yet. Okay, So follow the House of Usher.
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  Speaker 2: It's obviously referencing the works of Edgar Allen Poe. Every
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  Speaker 2: single episode is inspired by a story from Edgar Allen Poe.
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  Speaker 2: All the characters have names that come from Edgar Allen
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  Speaker 2: Poe stories. The overarching story is that you have this
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  Speaker 2: incredibly wealthy family called the Ushers, and you have a
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  Speaker 2: brother and sister who are sort of the head of
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  Speaker 2: this family. And the brother has like all the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the relatives. The sister never had children, she never
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  Speaker 2: gets married, she is her own woman. But the brother
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  Speaker 2: had two kids with his first wife, then had a
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  Speaker 2: series of flings with various women, some of which produced
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  Speaker 2: children out of wedlock, then finally has remarried but does
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  Speaker 2: not have a child with his most recent wife, who's
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  Speaker 2: about the same age as some of the kids are, right, like,
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  Speaker 2: that's how old he is and how young she is,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's each episode is about I guess this
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  Speaker 2: isn't really a spoiler once you get past the first
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  Speaker 2: episode each episode is essentially the death of one of
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  Speaker 2: his kids, because they reveal that all his kids are
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  Speaker 2: dead in that first episode. So the subsequent episodes show
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  Speaker 2: you how that happened, and each one is very much
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  Speaker 2: tied in with an Edgar Allen Poe's story, and then
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  Speaker 2: then at the end you finally get the answer of
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  Speaker 2: what a exactly happened to kind of precipitate all this,
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  Speaker 2: Although I would argue any person who's paying even half
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  Speaker 2: attention to the series, well, like by the episode three,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I see what's happening, and then you
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  Speaker 2: wait until you get to like episode seven or eight
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  Speaker 2: or whatever it is. I guess it's a where you
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  Speaker 2: get the confirmation and you're like, well, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: this was like you've been alluding to it so much
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  Speaker 2: that I'm just now It's not that I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what happened, it's just now I'm finally seeing the specifics
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  Speaker 2: right of what's set up this whole thing. I think
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  Speaker 2: the acting in the series is phenomenal. I think everyone
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: does an amazing job. Everyone does a phenomenal job. I
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  Speaker 2: think some of the stories are dumb, but then they
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  Speaker 2: are also based off Edgar Allen Poe's stories, and some
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  Speaker 2: of his stories can be a little dumb. I think
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  Speaker 2: some of the characters are so cartoonishly over the top
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  Speaker 2: that they're not believable as characters, but they're still fun
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  Speaker 2: to watch. So like the whole trope of incredibly wealthy
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  Speaker 2: person who has lost all touch with what most people
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  Speaker 2: consider reality to be, Like, that's a big thing throughout
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  Speaker 2: the whole series, Like each of his kids has kind
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  Speaker 2: of their own wild thoughts and expectations of what their
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  Speaker 2: life should be based upon the fact they were born
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  Speaker 2: into this incredible wealth. There's one character that for the
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  Speaker 2: longest time I thought, well, he's not that bad until
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  Speaker 2: he turns out to be really, really bad and does
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: something to a character that is one of my few
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: like body horror triggers that really hits me. So that
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  Speaker 2: was very effective. So overall, like it's hard to say,
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  Speaker 2: like did I think it was good? I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was well shot, I thought it was well acted. I
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  Speaker 2: thought some of the stories were a little heavy handed,
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  Speaker 2: but that's also Aggirl and Poe. I felt like a
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: lot of the ground that was being covered was covered
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: better in the Haunting of Hill House because there's a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: lot of like family trauma stuff in there, but like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: from a technical standpoint, it is a phenomenal piece of work.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So I might go back and revisit it at some point,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: but if I never do, I'll be okay with that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: because I feel like I got pretty much everything I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: need to out of it, apart from just like wanting
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to reappreciate the performances.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Again, would it be way too scary for me?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yes? I think so, I think. Ok So not every
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: episode is super gory, but a lot of them are, like, like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the kids die in pretty horrific ways, and even the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: ones who like their method of death wasn't quite as
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: horrific as the others, the build up to the death
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: ends up being really bad. So yeah, so I don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: know that it's your jam Ariel if I'm being perfectly honest,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But you're also a fan of a girl and Poe,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So maybe maybe you could watch it doing that thing
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you do, you know, where you block ninety five percent
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of your vision while you quote unquote watch the series.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I listen. It is effective, and that's how I got
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: through the first hit movie, the New One, and then
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I was able to do the second one. What about
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Haunting of Hillhouse, because I have been told that that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: is less about the horror and more about, like again,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the family dynamic, and it has been I've I got
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to do a piece from it for a class once
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and I thought the piece was really intriguing and really good,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and I've been interested that. I don't want to scare
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: myself so I can't sleep.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I would say that Take of Hill House, I mean,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it has moments that are scary, it's ghost story scary,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like it's it's like a ghost story scare. But I
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: would say it's actually way more sad than it is scary,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: which I personally really appreciate because a lot of great
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: ghost stories, you know, tragedy is like the central theme
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: for the story, not so much the scariness, but the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: tragic element that led to the fact that there are
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: ghosts in the first place. And so I really connected
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: with it like I don't have. I think people who
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: have had perhaps more traumatic histories with their families would
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: maybe find it harder to watch some parts. I have
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: been very fortunate in that that was not my experience.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I empathize deeply with a lot of the characters in
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that series. I think it's and it has one of
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the most impressive episodes I've ever seen, where the whole
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: episode appears to have been done in a take like wow,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to the point where like, while the camera is on
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: characters who are acting out a scene, the crew is
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: clearing the space behind them and resetting it so that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: when the camera swivels one hundred and eighty degrees, it's
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you're back in time because they have reset that setting
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: so that it's the past for those characters and different
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: actors are there acting out a new scene. Like I've
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: seen behind the scenes on how they did this, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they literally did have people just silently resetting while another
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: scene is going on in view of the camera. From
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a technical standpoint, absolutely phenomenal, and like I said, the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: performances are great and it's really effective. It's really it
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: is sad, like it's a very sad story, so I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: think you need to be in the right headspace.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: For it, but gotcha, I have to watch it episode.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I love episodes like that because they really blend the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: art of film and stage together really well, because you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: do have to rehearse it like a stage absolutely point.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And not just the crazy thing is like on a
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: stage play. You're talking about rehearsal of actors, maybe some musicians,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and then whoever's running the tech right, whoever's running lights
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: typically maybe curtain two if you're in that kind of theater,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: But in a television or film production, you've got way
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: more crew and everybody has to be on the same
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: page and be able to move as a unit in
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: order to pull that stuff off. And that's just crazy.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I love stuff like that, oh real quick. I also
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: watched the first two episodes of The Brother's Son, which
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is said I like it, and there's not a second
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: season coming, so I'm very sad about that. Okay continue.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing I watched, which I won't
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: talk about as much is Godzilla Minus one. It is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: now on Netflix, so I turned it on and watched it,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did. It. Is like everyone has said,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it's an incredible film. I think it's very impressive. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: think when you consider how reportedly low budget the effects were,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you can't tell, like it looks like a high budget
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: effects movie, and it is a very human story ultimately,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like the fact that you have this big monster rampaging
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and destroying Tokyo, that's obviously an important part of the story,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: but it's not what the story's about, right. The story's
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: more about this person who was a kamikaze pilot but
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: he wanted to live, so he fakes a mechanical failure
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: on his plane and lands at and out of the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Way island in the South Pacific in order to have
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it looked at and repaired. But in fact he's just
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: trying to avoid having to sacrifice himself as a kama
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Kazi pilot. So I would say the movie's really about
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: examining the culture of Japan and the expectations that the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Japanese government had on soldiers to essentially, I mean, ultimately
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: throw their lives away as as a way of being
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a weapon, and it kind of examines that and criticizes that,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: while also this character has to deal with the shame
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of having been a kama Kazi pilot who came back.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So that to me was really it's great, like it's
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: well worth watching. Part of me does wish I'd seen
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: on the big screen, But honestly, the parts that I've
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: found to be really effective were these character moments which
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't lose anything on the smaller screen
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: for those you just lose the spectacle of Godzilla rampaging
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: in those sequences.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like watching District nine. I'm glad I saw
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it on the big screen, but I think it would
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: have been just as good if I had first time
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: seen it on the small screen. Another low budget, high
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: effect movie turn out really good.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that that was an epic conversation.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: It was, so, hey, maybe we'll go through that we
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: have thirty seconds or less, but maybe we'll go through
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the regular stuff a little quicker too.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We always say that and we never do, but we
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: do have. We do have some thirty seconds or less
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: stories to get through, and we'll just see if we
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: can barrel through these as fast as we can. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I will get started now, Captain America. Brave New World
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: has gone into reshoots, scheduled for twenty two days here
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta, and gin Carlo Esposito, who has been in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: everything from Breaking Bad to The Mandalorian, has joined the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: cast in an undisclosed role, except we do know he's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a patty because it's Esposito where it is that this
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: film will have a tone similar to The Winter Soul,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: which I think is great news. Brave New World is
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: currently slated for Valentine's Day twenty twenty five. Love You.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: The Chosen, which is a kind of a dramatic retelling
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of Jesus' life that is interesting because it was crowdfunded.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It was a Union project, but it was crownfunded, got
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: picked up by the CW last year and they are
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: putting out a fourth season. When I put this in
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: our thirty Seconds or less, it hadn't come out yet,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but the first couple episodes have come out, and they
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: come out on Sunday and Thursday. So if you're a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: fan of it, season four is out, I think it does.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of my favorite retellings of Jesus's story,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to be quite honest.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, notable horror director Mike Flanagan that names So Familiar
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is going to helm the next Exorcist calm So. A
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: few years ago, Blumhouse invested a whopping four hundred million
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: dollars into creating a new trilogy of Exorcist movies. The
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: first of those was last year's The Exorcist Believer, which,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: let's I did not have a great perception. This new
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: movie will not be a direct sequel to that, but
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: will be set in the same universe. So can flanagain
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: create a better entry. Yes, yes he can. I don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: even need to see the movie. I know that's gonna happen.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Uh. Speaking of bigger and better, American Gladiators is back.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It's getting rebooted at Amazon. This follows we talked about
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the other week how it was Gladiators was happening in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: London while the nostalgia train has hit and after a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: few years people trying to relaunch the show. It's finally
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: getting its chance.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing a gladiator peg somewhe in
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the head with a tennis ball fired from a cannon.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Ah. So exciting.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers Discovery is working with Zack Snyder to make
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: a TV series inspired by the film Three Hundred, which
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: in turn was an adaptation of a graphic novel by
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Frank Miller. So this is the story of three hundred
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Spartans being all manly and oiled up and stuff and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: then sacrificing themselves to hold off a per invasion. There
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: are a few details about the TV series so far,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: but I'm hoping we get to see oiled up and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: muscley spartans doing mundane stuff like cooking dinner or inspecting Wells.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be in for that. We know that Predator. After
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the success of its movie Prey, which was a giant
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: prequelk is getting another installment. This time it's going to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: be called bad Lands, and they are looking at El
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Fanning to star in it. Dan Tracktenberg is helming this film,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and every time they referred to him by his last name,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I keep thinking Michelle Trackenberg from Buffy. So it's been
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: fun to navigate that written in my brain.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that name is Key. That's a Buffy joke. Okay.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: The Hollywood Reporter says Chris Hemsworth is in talks to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: star in a film that will officially bring together the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: worlds of Transformers and Gi Jeff. That's something that's been
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: done in other forms of media, but this would be
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the first for the big old screen. I'm told by
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the article that this was actually hinted at at the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: end of Transformers, Rice and the Beasts, but I didn't
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: see that because I do not hate myself despite my
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: snoody opinions about the Transformer series. I hope fans are excited.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I could look. You take two bad things, you put
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: them together, they might be good if you are a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: fan of the Yakuza video games. Like a Dragon Yukuza,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you're getting a live action adaptation coming or sorry, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: guess the video game is Yukuza like a Dragon. The
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: live action series will be like a Dragon Yukuza. It's
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: coming to Amazon Prime. It will come out in October
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and then again in November. Because people like breaking up
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: series because nobody has attention spans anymore. Anyhow, Apparently people
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: are really excited about it and it could be fun.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. So I played the most recent one,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and so the Yakuza series is sorry thirty seconds or
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: last I know it's not bad, but do it. The
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Yakuza series is one of those where it mixes like
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: drama with ridiculous comedy. Right Like, you're playing typically a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: character who is a high ranking member of a crime family,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and you're often doing like lots of violent, violent stuff
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: against other people, and then occasionally you're playing a mini
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: game where you're singing karaoke in a bar and you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: trying really hard to impress people in the karaoke bar
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: as you sing overly romantic songs. It is a ludicrous series.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: The most recent one takes place largely in Hawaii, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I loved every second of playing it, so I'm looking
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: forward to that anyway.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That does sound like a fun watch, like a fighter
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: version of Dan the Diver.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to send you like if I can find,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: like a good clip of one of the ridiculous cut scenes,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'll say to you so you can appreciate how dumb
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but fun, fun dumb that show is. Okay. One thing
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that we now know about the second season of the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Last of Us is that it will not tell the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: full story of the second game in season two. Instead,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: showrunners have indicated that they will need two or even
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: three full seasons to tell that whole story because there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: just so much darn narrative in there. But then I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: also know what happens than the Last of Us too,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and I think I know the real reason for splitting
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: that story among multiple seasons, but I'll never tell.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Interesting. I don't know what happens, but I did like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: season one, so I'm looking forward to season two. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: thought it surprisingly not too scary to watch. Terry Gilliam
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is doing a biblical comedy and he has cast Johnny
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Depp to play Satan and Jeff Bridges to play God
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the show. The movie is going to be called The
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Carnival at the End of Days, where God wops out,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: wipes out human and the only character who wants to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: save them as Satan. It's interesting because apparently at one
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: point God is going to be voiced by at least
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: fifteen animals, and they're all going to be realistic, and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: so that's going to be quite a challenge.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And in a story that I've accidentally skipped over but
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I am going to talk about now, So Deadpool and Wolverine,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: they decided they took a look at the popcorn bucket
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: for Dune Too, the unfortunately inappropriate Sandworm popcorn bucket, and said,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: hold my beer. And so there is a new popcorn
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: bucket to celebrate Deadpool and Wolverine, which is Wolverine's face.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: His mouth is wide open, that's where the popcorn comes out.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And that's all that happens. Okay, you're dirty, dirty people.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: That's all that happens. I'm still waiting for my ghost
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: trap popcorn bucket. I wasn't able to get the AM
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: but I was able to get the Regal Cinema one
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in August. I will get it. This is the yell
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: sellout really quick? Okay? Lastly, in our thirty seconds are last,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We're getting a season two of the Gremlins cartoon Secret
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of the Mogwi. This time it's called Wild Batch. Gremlin's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the Wild Batch, not to be confused with the Bad Batch,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: which is what I did when Jonathan told me about this.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Apparently the main characters go to California and have to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: deal with a new group of Gremlin Me.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Dang, yeah. I started watching the series the I saw
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: maybe five or six episodes of the original series when
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it was first starting to come out, and I thought
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: that it was charming. I didn't think it was great,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: but I thought it was good. But like all the
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: other things we talked about in this episode, I fell
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: off of it, and so I didn't finish that season.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been meaning to watch it. I haven't yet,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but it's got a great voice cast.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: So it is.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It is still on my list.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. The people who are doing the voices
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: are some really incredible and famous actors. You know you've got,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you know You've got, isn't meng naw when one of
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the voice actors for that series, I think she is.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: She is and so is be d Wong. But they
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: say bed Wong is known for Mulan, and I'm like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that's not what I mean. But he was also like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in the Mulan cartoons too, So it's just just not
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: what I know him from.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Something that Ariel and I know fairly well because we
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: talked about it in one of our video episodes when
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Ellen c was a video series. Is I think, yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: so do I. But it's an incredibly influential movie, one
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: of the most influential films for Western films in quite
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: some time, and itself it's not a Western film I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: am talking about. Akira Kurosawa was in Mortal Classic seven Samurai,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and seventy years after it initially came out, we're getting
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a limited re release in four K resolution.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cool. I wish it were more
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: widespread than it currently seems.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it sounds to me like it's only in
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: New York and LA and just in a couple of
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: specific theaters.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the new trailer looks great, Oh my goodness.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you do have the opportunity to see it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like this is the story that you will recognize instantly
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: because it has been readapted so many times, Like the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: arguably the most famous adaptation is the Western The Magnificent Seven. Like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty faithful adaptation of the story, just obviously
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: pourting it over from Samurai to cowboys. But you could
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: argue the exact same like structure is in things like
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: everything from A Bugs Life to the Three Amigos. Is
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: one that we mentioned in our video series.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. I will share that video in our
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: show notes. I will get our show notes updated this weekend,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and I will make sure that that video is a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: part of it. I'll even make it its own post
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: so that you can see it. If you haven't checked
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it out. You may have seen all of our videos.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: It's honestly one that I enjoy going back and watching.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like watching myself, but there's a couple of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: those old videos that I do enjoy just because one
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it was fun to make and two I think it
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: turned out really well. And that's one of them.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: So we've got so many more things to talk about,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: one of which, this one that will be fairly quick,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: is that we have a trailer for a documentary about
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the career, the life and career of Farrell Williams. It's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: called piece by piece, and it's done in a very
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: interesting style.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Legos, it's animated Legos, so not like
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: so like the Lego movie. Yeah, that's why did I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: have such a hard time putting that sentence together. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's because, like it's not what you would
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: expect from a documentary about a musician's life.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: No, but Lego man Snoop Dogg is a delight.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I get the feeling that that this whole decision
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: was made because it does set it apart from other
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: documentaries just by the nature of the film style, and
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: it also allows them to take things that perhaps would
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: be far more mundane if you're just doing like a
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: talking heads kind of interview with someone, and with Lego,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you can just take it to absurd levels and make
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it a joke visually.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throughout the whole thing, you know, Fell's happy is
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: playing and that's that's the vibe I get. That's the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: vibe that they're setting with this Lego mensary. Yeah, Docu
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: le Lego.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I wonder if we're going to see other documentaries take
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: a similar approach in the future, which would just be
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: so surreal.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It would be. I feel like you can't do that
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: exact thing too many times. Yourrket's old hat.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I'm really hoping for a Lego version of the Imitation Game.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, probably more people would watch it, But like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I think, eventually, you you like the Lego games, Eventually
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you saturate people's tolerance for Yeah, watching Lego remakes Uh.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: One thing that saturated my tolerance without me ever having
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: watched any of the movies is the the Venom series. Well,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I know that you enjoyed Venom and Venom two at
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: least to some degree.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: But watch Venom two. But I enjoyed Venom, we.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Enjoyed the first Venom. I I just can't forgive Venom
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: for spawning things like Morbius and Madam Webb, like the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: fact that that movie is essentially responsible for such terrible
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: crimes against cinema. I cannot forgive easily. But we got
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: a trailer for the third and final film and the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Venom trilogy, Venom the Last Dance. The film is going
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to come out in October. One interesting thing is that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: it does kind of it almost feels like it's ret
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: conning the end of the second Venom film. In that
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: at the end of Venom two, Venom slash Eddie are
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: pulled into the MCU version of the Marvel Verse. But
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: then I didn't notice this because I don't think I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: ever saw the scene, but at the end of No
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Way Home, Eddie sla end up getting pulled back yep
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: to their original universe. So it's almost like, hey, you
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: know what, this thing that happened, it doesn't really matter
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this was like at this time
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Sony and Marvel were kind of feeling out where they
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: wanted their relationship to go, because I think it was
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: about the time that they were renewing their agreements and
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: stuff that could be misremembering, so that it is interesting,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you know. I think so Venom is not a perfect
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: movie by any means, but it is fun. It's fun,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and I think the reason for that, the reason why
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it succeeds over Morbius or Madam Webb, is because Eddie
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Brock is kind of a comedic schlub kind of a character,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and when you focus on that odd couple relationship between
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: him and Venom, like the action, the actual storyline doesn't matter,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: but that relationship of them trying to learn how to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: co habitate. Yeah, coexist is very funny and it's done
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: very well. I say this, I haven't watched a second movie.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I had to make sure that I hadn't because I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: thought the second movie was let there be Carnage.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: But I was like, was that the third movie?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: So, like I said, not perfect, but it is enjoyable.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I look forward to this third one because in the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: trailer they show more moments of that Eddie and Venom
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: trying to work together in a very messy way, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that fans like you have an opportunity
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to see the story come to full conclusion, while fans
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: like me don't care.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: You're not anti fans. I just don't understand why they
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: can make a movie like Venom, the first one at
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: least that is actually enjoyable, but then the next movies
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: in their superhero sony verse are so unenjoyable, Like how
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: do you how? How do you miss the mark that bad?
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I have theories, but we don't have time for
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: me to dive into dive into that. Essentially, it comes
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: down to studios wanting to cash in on IP and
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: not really caring about honoring the source material or or
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: making a coherent and cohesive like film universe like Marvel.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Marvel has its own issues, some of which are due
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: to the fact that they had such a desire to
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: create a coherent universe like. Some of the problems that
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: exist in Marvel are because of those choices. But uh,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: but you can certainly see where those efforts were made,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: and is that the right way to go about it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, goodness knows. Marvel alienated multiple
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: directors who originally were attached to do a film but
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: then later on dropped. Edgar Wright was supposed to do
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: ant Man and he stopped, he quit, And it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Still feels like there are some Edgar Wright touches in there.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but it's definitely one of those things where
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you feel like there's trade offs in whatever approach. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like in the Spider Man splinter universe of Marvel,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: which oddly enough doesn't really have Spider Man in it,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like it just the cynical parts of filmmaking
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and cash again on IP seem more evident than they
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: do on the MCU version.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, during this conversation, I just have to say, you've
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: said two things that have made me go, why isn't
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: this one of our mashups? And I don't know if
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: either would actually be doable or if either has actually
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: been done in the comics. But you are like Marvel
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: alien And then you said Nate, but I thought you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: were talking about Marvel Aliens, and I was like, well,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: is that after Zombies?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: We're like a predator has crossed over into the DC universe.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then you just said spider Man Splinter,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what if Spider Man were raised by Splinter?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like Splinter would also have the message
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: of with great power, it comes great responsibility.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think this is just my
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: brain spoiler for everybody. This is my brain making up
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for the fact that we were going to do a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: mashup this week and then I ran out of time.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I probably wouldn't have had time either
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: in retrospect, but at the time I didn't know. Well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have a trailer for a film called
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: One Law wn d LA All One Word. It's an
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: app actually not film, but a series on Apple TV Plus.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It's based off of a series of novels for young
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: adults it has some kind of like I would say,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: like some Wally Slash, some Fallout vibes. Yeah, like, yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: your your protagonist is a young young girl who was
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: raised in an underground bunker who then ends up going
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to the surface world and is experiencing everything on the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: surface for the first time. So it's all about discovery
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: and of course, uh, the surface world is not what
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: she expected, and she's looking for people, and there's lots
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: of intelligent creatures wandering around but not not not what
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you would call people out there not.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, it really caught my attention, so I'm not
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with the Wondola novel series prior to this,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: but it really so like my favorite childhood stories are
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like The never Ending Story and The Phantom Told Booth
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and Dinotopia and stuff like that, so this really scratches
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that itch. And like Alis in Wonderland Wizard of Oz,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I loved those. Weird, but I loved them. So I'm like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I might actually go back and read the young adult
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: novel series.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I imagine they have to be pretty quick reads. So yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: it looks great. I mean it's an animated series. It
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: looks really creative. Like I said, it's on Apple TV Plus.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's it comes out starting on June twenty eighth. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: if if you have Apple TV Plus and you know
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you love you love sci fi, especially sci fi from
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: adapted from young adult series, I say check it out
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: because it looks interesting to me.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too, and like the animation is delightful.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It just yeah, it just looks like if Fallout were optimistic.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if Fallout just embraced the quirky stuff and
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: got rid of all the really grim, bloody stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, at least I hope that's how this story goes.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: If they put in some bloody grim stuff.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if her if her travel companion ends up demanding
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: that he be decapitated, we know things have taken a
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: seriously wrong turn for sure.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm still telling you watching through uh fallow a
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: second time is much funnier because of you catch the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: things they set up that you didn't catch the first time,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: because we haven't watched it. R right, delightful, delightful. Another
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: thing that's delightful, at least I know it's delightful is
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Umbrella Academy, and we're getting its final season August eighth,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and they dropped a trailer for it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have not watched Umbrella Academy. It's another one
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: of my blind spots. I've got so many of those.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: The more we do this show, the more I realize
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: what a terrible geek I am.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, you but you cover, you cover,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: like you watch things that I don't watch.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I have to watch all the all the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: horror movies you have to you have. I don't mean
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I don't mean for the show. I mean like my
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: brain requires me too, Like I feel compelled to watch
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: horror movies. That's pretty much my go to these days,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: is when I'm like, oh, let's watch something, let's see
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: let me look at let me look at what's on shutter.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I wish he lived closer because I'd be like, Hey,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I'm bored this afternoon and Tony's playing Gloomhaven. Do you
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: want to watch a TV series with me?
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: They're getting short enough. We could watch one in and ast.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: What I need to do is go and see Furiosa
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: this weekend before it leaves theaters.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: So the Umbrella Academy fourth final season trailer I thought
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: looked good. It made me feel like, so, I, having
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: not watched the series, I didn't really understand everything that
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: was going on, but it felt to me like there
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: was almost like a multiverse kind of or parallel universe
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: kind of thing going on. Is that am I totally
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: off track?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: No? Yes, no, yes, that is a little confusing because
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the first season six the youngest of them, I think
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: it's six. Anyhow, he he gets sucked into the future
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and where he gets where he gets it's it's like
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: post apocalyptic future, and he gets basically conscripted by an
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: organization to go back and make sure that the future
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't end in a catastrophic way.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: So sort of like Days of Future Past kind of thing.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Kind kind of yeah, but you know, you do you
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: can create alternate realities by doing that, right, because when
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you mess with the past, you mess with the future.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so there definitely have been alternate realities that
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: they have had to go through because this organization is
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: messing with the timeline.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it is.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: It is really interesting and it's very quirky. It's a
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: little dark, but I would say, like not near as
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: dark as like dead Boy Detectors or something like that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: There are some dark moments, but very lighthearted in comparison
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: to a lot of stuff we're getting nowadays. It's fun,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I have a couple of friends who are
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: like I didn't finish watching the series, and I don't
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: know why, And I also don't know why because I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: quite enjoyed it. But I also it is so many
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: weird things happen that I actually had and each season
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: is so jam packed. I think in a good way
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that I want to go back and rewatch it all
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: before I watched season four, just so I can remind
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: myself the timeline of what has happened in.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: The Is this the series that has Elliott Page in it?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, so and when Elliott Page started that it
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: was before their transition, as I recalled, interesting, and I
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: had heard that this was a series that handled that
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: really delicately so that it would work its way within
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to the show as well.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I think. So I think they handled it well. I think,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and I completely understand this because I'm I completely understand
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: why they did this, and I don't even think it's wrong.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I think that they focused on it a little longer
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: than maybe they needed to from it, but that's me
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: coming from a place where I'm not going through that journey,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, cool, I accept it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, let's move on. Can't be certain that the
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: entire audience will be as compassionate as Aerial is.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so so like it. It's again, it's I thought
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: they handled it well. I think they could have maybe
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: handled it a little bit quicker. But that's I that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: is such a minor critique and my own personal opinion
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that it doesn't really matter.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just glad that they were able to handle
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it in a compassionate and responsible way, because, like considering that,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: you know, the world itself is divided on that whole
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: concept in the first place, Like you could easily imagine
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: a studio that didn't want to have to deal with
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that just recasting a role or writing a character off
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the show entirely. And I'm glad that that was not
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: how it turned out.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. I Yeah, I love that having
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you know, family members and friends who have taken that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: journey or are on that journey, I really appreciated a
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: great deal. I also will say that several of the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: seasons had dance numbers, which may not be everybody's cup
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: of tea.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Oh you've sold me.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Now I go back. And I still watch these dance
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: numbers anytime I need a smile because they're just so
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: much fun. Like Season one opens up, it's it kind
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of was really big after it happened. It opens up
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: with all of these people once they all get back
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: in their home mansion. One of them turns on a
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: song and they can all hear it, and they all
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: dance in their own rooms, so they aren't danceing together,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: but they're all dancing together, right, and it's so cute.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And it was kind of one of the first things
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: they if I remember correctly, one of the first things
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: they did to kind of be able to get into
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: their characters and solidify their characters was have fun dance
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: is your character, which and that's.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: That's great as an actor too, Like Ariel and I
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: can attest like whenever you're given a an assignment to
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: that's not directly related to whatever performance you're doing, but
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: it's just based upon your interpretation of the character you're playing.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Show me how your character celebrates, show me how your
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: character dances, or whatever. And the other nice thing about
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: that is, as a very awkward person, if you ask
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: me to do something as a character. I have enough
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: dissociation where I'm not overthinking it when I'm doing it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's wonderful. I think it's a wonderful exercise.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I love that they left it in the movie or
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: in the TV show. And it's also it was placed
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: really well within a story because it had just happened
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: where you've got all these siblings who were put into
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: this situation kind of against their will, had a bunch
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: of bad stuff happen, there was a lot of tension,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and then they just all go into their rooms, they
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: have their quiet space, and it's just this moment of joy,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and it was so beautifully like I'm getting a little
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: tary thing, so beautifully placed. There's so much that this
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: show does well. They do a lot of fun stuff
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: in the first season with music. Later in a later season,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if it's two or three, there's a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: footloose showdown, which is amazing and hilarious. I just really
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: enjoy it, even the moments that like kind of fail
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: to me, fail up. I highly recommend it. I might
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: put it on par with A New Girl for you, Okay,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: maybe higher you should watch. You should watch Umbrella Academy
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: before New Girl. It's also a shorter show.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: It's only four seasons, right, right, and and not I'm
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: guessing they aren't seasons where it's like twenty two episodes
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: a season.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: No, No, I think there's I'm pretty sure they're short.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well then yeah, that's a good starting point. Well.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Next up, we got a sort of a trailer slash
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: teaser trailer for Mowana Too, which comes out this November.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And I don't know that. I mean, clearly it's Mowana
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: exploring more. I think the concept is she encounters other
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Polynesian folks who have also sailed across the ocean, which
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: is that's interesting, the idea of discovering new people, not
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: just her own that she has come from. I like that.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I but the trailer doesn't give us a whole lot
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to work with, right, It's it's kind of just giving
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you sort of a vibe.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I it was just more ma Wana. I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: don't like the giant scallop that she sails into. That
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: was upsetting.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, part of me is like, if there's no tomatoa,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not interested. But part of me is like, uh,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: but tomtoa had kind of like the perfect little moment
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: in the first film, and there's no need to bring
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: that character back. And if you did bring the character back,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: it would probably feel like, oh, we had to do
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: this because enough people liked the whole tomatoa part of
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: the first Mahana film. I will say, like watching this
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: like no shade. I love Mowana the first film. I
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: love that movie a lot, but I couldn't shake the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: feeling of if this had been done in an earlier
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Disney era, this would totally be one of those directive
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: video sequels.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I fully agree. I feel fully agree, and I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: might just be the first trailer. They might have some
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: more juicy stuff that'll pull us in later, but I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: kind of feel like, put that in your first trailer
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and then if you don't have enough for a second trailer,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: don't do a second trailer.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still feel like I still feel like Frozen
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: two had direct to video sequel vibes too.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't watch that one, but yeah I watched it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't care for it, and I didn't think the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: music was nearly as catchy as what was in the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: first film. But that being said, my nieces loved the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: second film. So this could also be one of those
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: things where I just have to come to the comfort
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of saying this was meant for someone else, and it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: okay if I don't like it, and it's really okay
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: if someone else loves it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: That is correct. Speaking of things that some people love
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and some people hate. We got a new Aliens Romulus trailer.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take a guess which one of us loved it
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: and which one of us hated it.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I loved it and you hit it.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: No, you stopped watching it, so you can't.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I have finished it.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Oh did you?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I finished the trailer. I thought the end of the
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: trailer was super strong. There was a moment in the
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: middle where I was like, nope, I'm done, and then
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I powered through.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: It's a bit where where a face hugger shoves its
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: ovipositor down literally into and down someone's throat in order
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: to inject eggs into them.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: It's not even that it shoved it into their face
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: and down their throat. It's that it was trying and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: multiple attempts failing. That really just hit a squeaky spot
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: for me, which you know is not shouldn't be unexpected
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: with the whole like Origin of the Alien Universe. Anyhow,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: it's a very like sexy Origin Universe. It just hit
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: a squeaky spot.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and normally we wouldn't see that process, right, you
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: would just like the face hugger latch onto someone's head
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: and that enough is horrifying, Like you don't need any
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: more than that for it to be horrifying, but they delivered. Yeah,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: this one has a lot more body horror vibes in it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I was telling Ariel, I said, I feel like there's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: like a strong Cronenberg influence in this, Like Ridley Scott's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: first Alien film was a horror movie more than a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: science fiction film. And then I would say the second film,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Aliens was James Cameron that was more of an action film.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And then the third film, which nobody liked, I felt
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: was like more of a hard sci fi kind of
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: maybe not hard sci fi, but the kind of sci
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: fi film where it's a science fiction movie that's trying
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to explore certain themes, but they're doing it through the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: lens of science fiction. Yeah, this feels like it's getting
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: right back to those horror roots, like this, this is
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: a horror movie.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Well, even after I guess the third one was Alien Resurrection,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and then there were also the Alien Predator crossovers. We
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: then also got Prometheus, which was a prequel, and Covenant.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Why do I know this much about the Alien? But
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: both Prometheus and Covenant were more less focused on story
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: and more focused on just shock and gore. Well, so
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I watched Prometheus, but I couldn't get through the first
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes of Covenant.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Just as a light correction, tiny tiny correction. Alien three
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: and Alien Resurrection are two different movies. Alien Resurrection is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: the fourth film, gotcha. So Alien three was set on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: essentially a prison planet, like Australia. The planet. It's like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: a prison colony type thing. And then of course Alien
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: gets loose and Hijackson sue Hijackson hijinks. Yeah, I said
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Hijackson instead of hijinks, And I'm like, you know what,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna embrace that, embrace the embrace the mistake.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so, and you know what, I don't think
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I've ever watched Alien Resurrection. I've seen the first three,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and I didn't watch Prometheus or Covenant, so there's there
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: are big gaps for me. But then I really like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the first two films a lot for very different reasons.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: This one. I mean, it does look like it's scary,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: it looks like an effective horror film. Body horror is
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: not my favorite subgenre of horror, So I don't know
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: if this is one I will ultimately go see or not,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: but I respect the craft.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: So did you like the New Evil Dead movie that
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: came out?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I did not. I did not like The Evil Dead.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't finish it. I started it started on streaming
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: as one of those that was on like Shutter or whatever,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and I think I only got maybe halfway through when
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't for me, and and and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: no doubt I wasn't. Part of it was that it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: all about child endangerment and that bothers me. Yeah, So
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't stick with it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Partly for that reason, Okay, I was just curious because
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Petty Alvarez, who did the New the two thousand, New
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Evil Dead and then Don't Breathe is in.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's irresponsible for Romulus. Yeah. I will say, like
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: the whole cinematography and vibe of Evil Dead, like it
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: was really effective, Like it's it's definitely a strong contender
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: in the horror genre. It doesn't come across as sanitized
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: or boring the way a lot of like, I love
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: some stuff that comes out of Blumhouse, but a lot
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: of stuff that comes out of Blumhouse is just bland.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's not very effective horror. You can't say
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: that about The Evil Dead. It's very effective. It just
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't my jams. So that's why I didn't stick with it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if this is going to be
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: something I'm going to want to watch or not. But
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I thought it looked really effective.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: So, speaking of things that are not your jam, what
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: do you think about the trailer for the New Dimension
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: twenty season Never Stop Blowing Up?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a trailer for a new Real
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Play series RPG series in which it looks to me
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: like all the players are taking on roles that are
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: inspired by the over the top action tropes of the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, and Brendan Lee Mulligan is the game master.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: The thing that impressed me most, and Ariel you already
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: know this because I sent you a message about it,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: is that as the series goes on, Brendan Lee Mulligan
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: ends up going through progressively more dramatic makeup to make
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: it appear as though he has been really put through
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: the ringer. Like if you thought John McClain was in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: rough shape at the end of Diehard, you ain't seen
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: nothing yet.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. They did that with Dungeons
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and Drag Queens too, where they progressively made bleams be
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Lee Mulligan because you can't you can't do just his
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: initials blm. Yeah, so bleam, which I started doing and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: then found out that other people like that was the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: accepted way to do it, So yay intuition. But they
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: also did it for Dungeons and Drag Queens or his
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: make got progressively more like more, yes and every time.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it looks great. I love it. He's kind
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: of like if Mayhem from the I guess Progressive Commercials
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: or whatever insurances from or a DM. I love it
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like I would say, it definitely gives me
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: more nineties action movie vibes than eighties because the stuff
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I associate with eighties isn't quite that same level of excess.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like that really took off in the nineties,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: even though like the vibe they're giving off is that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it's an eighties thing, and I'm thinking, I live through
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: the eighties. You young, young young people, y'all who are
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: born maybe at the end of the eighties or possibly
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: in the midlies.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Some of them were definitely born in the end of
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the eighties, but yeah, no them were born in.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: The Having lived through the whole decade, I can tell
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: you that you are really mulating more of a nineties
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: vibe than an eighties vibe. But apart from that, I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: respect it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: But you've got like the John McClain character, You've got,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: like the Kingpin character You've got.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The names are great too, like the names
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: of the character, because it's they're very thinly veiled pastiches
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: or parodies of actors or characters, and that's a lot
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: of fun. Like there's a there's a Vin Diesel. It's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: like vic ethanol, I think, is what the character's name is.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just it's a really good
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: table of players. I think they're all great comedians who
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: will really vibe off of each other.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I know that actual plays are difficult for a lot
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: of people to get into because they're long. I will
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: say dimension twenty one, since this is a side Quest season.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: They'll probably have a fewer episodes. I don't know that
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: for certain, but they tend to have less episodes than
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: like Fantasy High Junior Year, which I think has teens
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: or twenties, And they're shorter than like Critical Roles, so
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: they're not like four hours or maybe like an hour
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: and a half to two hours each, so still a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: bit of a time commitment. Yeah, a lot of fun.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: This is a great one that you don't have to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: know anything or anyone, you can just jump into it seems.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it feels to me like this couldn't be
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: more than six or eight episodes simply because of the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: progression of makeup that Brennan Lee Mulligan goes through. Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love it. They put a lot of
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: effort into like their battle maps and their backgrounds and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: things like that too. I highly recommend watching Di Menson
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: twenty reach Out on Discord if you don't know which
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: ones you want to start with, because I have opinions
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: mine different from everybody else's, but I'm happy to get home.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next up, we have a trailer for a film
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: called The Killer's Game, which comes out in September thirteenth,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: it's partly produced by people who are involved in the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: John Wicks series, and I say it shows I also
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: so think this is like what if Joe versus the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Volcano but with assassins?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I mean also true? Yes, Also, what if you pulled
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Drax and Mantis into the real world it made them
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: humans not aliens?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's also true. So the general plot is
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: that you have Batista who's playing a hit man, and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: he falls in love and also gets this terrible diagnosis
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: that he's got an inoperable fatal tumor and that he's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: going to die within three months. And so for whatever reason,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's something like there'll be a massive payout
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: that he can then give to his loved one that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: if he is assassinated, then he's going to be able
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: to get this this thing, and whereas if he just dies,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: he doesn't get that. So he decides to take a
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: hit out on his own life, and then you get
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the classic call from the doctor of we accidentally swapped
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: your scan with someone else's. Turns out you're not gonna
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: die at all, and that he has to deal with
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's put this massive contract on his
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: own life and hilarity ensues, which is why I said
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: it's like Joe Versus the Volcano, because if you've ever
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: seen that movie, it's a wonderful movie. I need to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: watch it again. It's been so long since i've seen it.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I own it.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I love that film. It's not great, y'all. It's not
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: a great man, but it's great. It's great, but it's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: not great. Meg Ryan plays three different characters in one movie,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: sometimes for just a single scene, but she's in it
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: three different times. It's three different characters. They have a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: weird Polynesian slash Jewish trybe occupies this island in the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. It's a movie that almost works and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't quite, but it's very joyful. But in Joe Versus
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the Volcano, the main character, Joe is told he has
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: an inoperable brain cloud, and that's what leads him to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: agree to sacrifice himself to this supposed volcano god for
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: this giant company. And then later it turns out the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: brain cloud thing was a lie. He doesn't have a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: fatal disease. This was all orchestrated by the company to
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: get a patsy to jump into the volcano, and so
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: as I was watching this trailer, I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: it's Joe versus the Volcano, but with hitmen. Yeah.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, like, I liked John Wick and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see them do another story that is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: not john Wick.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Hopefu. Yeah, as far as we can tell, this is
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: not actually set in the John Wick universe. It's just
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: that in this universe, it's also true that practically everybody's
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: an assassin.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I am a little surprised though, so maybe this
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: is just me taking the wrong take on it. I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: thought that Dave Bautista was leaving Guardians of the Galaxy
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to pursue more serious roles, and this doesn't feel like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that to me.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was more like leaving Guardians of the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Galaxy in order to do other produc anything else. Yeah,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: well not just anything else. I mean like he did
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: he did Glass Onion, and you know, he was in
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: a James He was in James Bond Specter, so he's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: been in a few other things, although it's still like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Glass Onions different, but everything else typically is falling into
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: that action category. This definitely feels like it's it's an
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: action film with a dark sense. Of humor to it, right,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't feel super serious. I would argue John
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Wick has a even though it's absolutely ludicrous. John Wick's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: a ludicrous series, but it's not treated that way in
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the film, right, It's not. There's no like wink, weak nudge, nudge,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Look how silly this is. I would say that this,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: based on the trailer alone, feels a little bit more
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: like it's in on the joke than the John Wicks
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: series is.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I would agree. I would definitely agree. Another action movie
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: with a dark comedy twist is Inside Out too, and we.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Got a new trailer for that, the final one before
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: the movie comes out, And this one, like none of
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: the other trailers, really made me want to see this movie,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: particularly this one got closer to it. But it's because
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: it actually was showing more of the young woman, the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: girl who's now growing into a teenager, that kind of
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: her life and how her emotions are impacting her life.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: And while I know that's not going to be like
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: front and center for the film, that gave me more
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: of a connection point than just focusing on the emotions.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's right. These characters aren't
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: just existing in a vacuum right, like they're inhabiting a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: human being and being able to see how that impacts
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: the human being. That's what made me connect to it more,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, maybe I will see this.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I like seeing how it impacts the They did this
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: in their Fish movie too, how it impacts the parents'
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: emotions as well. I hope that they expand upon that
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: to seeing other people's emotions and then maybe in like
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: if you could have like some emotional intelligence happening where
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: there's interplay between multiple characters emotions interacting with each other directly.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I realized that that kind of breaks the.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Theme of the movie.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Though this trailer, I feel met about it. I've felt
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: met about all of it. I do like that gosh
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Ayodabari is the voice of Anxiety. I love her in
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the Bear and I watching her do her voiceover for
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the character of Anxiety has been inspiring. It's just delightful
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: to watch her process. So that's a lot of fun.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so not exactly a full recommendation from the show,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: kind of like a half hearted I might be interested
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: from me and Ariel is met so which honestly I don't.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I don't begrudge you You're met, because it does feel
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: like another wholly unneeded sequel, right, Like the first film
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: pretty much told the whole story you needed to tell,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: and I, for one, at the end of Inside Out
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like, Man, I sure hope that they come
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: back to this because I really want to see what
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: happens next. I felt like it was a pretty good conclusion. Yeah,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: so I'm not mad about a sequel, but it's not
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: like that it's really captured my imagination. It's it's kind
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: of a shame because I missed the era where Pixar
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: was making all sorts of different things and there was
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: so much heart to all of them and each one
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: felt unique to itself. Yeah, and it's been a while since.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Like even with Elemental, like you and I said, it
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: was feeling like a mix between Inside Out and Zotopia,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like it was really unique, even though
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  Speaker 2: it arguably was very different from that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just poor marketing. Marketing has been really difficult. I'm
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: not going to go on that rant again. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's interesting because I like inside Out. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I actually felt very little connection with Riley or her
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  Speaker 1: parents or anybody. It was mainly with the emotions. So
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  Speaker 1: if they had started this second movie with a completely
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  Speaker 1: different person and a completely different journey, I would have
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  Speaker 1: been justicifyed with that. So see, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think they should have started this trailer with all
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  Speaker 2: the emotions gathered around the grave of Bing Bong and
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  Speaker 2: just crying slowly while the music played, and I would
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  Speaker 2: and I would have been like, I feel nothing, So it.
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  Speaker 1: Would have been like an up sort of a beginning
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, but you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say up definitely had an
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  Speaker 2: impact on me. Bing Bong's death continues to have no
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  Speaker 2: impact on me whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that that cartoon character, imaginary friend cartoon character's
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  Speaker 1: death does not affect your day tod age.
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  Speaker 2: I just find it so perplexing for people who are like,
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  Speaker 2: They're like, it was so sad. I'm like, I literally
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  Speaker 2: cannot understand you.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was sad enough. It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Those people probably will also really like the movie if
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: which is all about or Dexter's Home for Imaginary Friends
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  Speaker 1: or whatever not. I honestly find like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I have more connection to like watching Jenny's I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember her last name, but Jenny's review of the Star Cruisers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Jenny Nicholson.
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  Speaker 1: Jenny Nicholson, and she had that little alien pet with
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: her who was the alien who met a terrible demise
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: in both the Alien Eggs Alien Encounter Alien Encounter Ride,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: which I friagin loved and also the Leelo's or the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Stitches Great Adventures is Greatest did just Great Escape, which
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I also enjoyed, not as much as Alien Encounter, but
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  Speaker 1: I understand why they got rid of both.
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  Speaker 2: Both of those were experiences at scary the Magic Kingdom
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  Speaker 2: in Disney World once upon a Time.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and both were a little scary, which is maybe
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  Speaker 1: why they didn't belong in the Magic Kingdom. They would
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: have done better in.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Like Hollywood Study Woods Studios.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: But that little alien I have more connection with than
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Bing Bong, So I'm not going to judge you too much.
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  Speaker 2: By the way that Jenny Nicholson video talk about it
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: blowing up right, Like I was surprised when I did
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: the mention of that. I just did it because I thought, like, oh,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: this is something that other people should watch. And it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: turns out I didn't need to say anything at all,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: because that that video got such traction, such a widespread traction.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: It's because nobody could experience the Star Cruiser, so you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: had to go off of other people's right.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: And she's so good at being thorough with her presentation
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: and to lay out her points methodically and support them
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: with the things that actually happened. And she's also I think,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: extremely fair, right, Like, it's not it doesn't come acro
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: to me as a hit piece as much as it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: is a I had, like the most unfortunate series of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: things happened that impacted my enjoyment. And like you're talking
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: to someone who really wanted to enjoy the experience. Like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: it's not like she was going into it determined to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: hate it.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is very clear to be like and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: this one is just me being salty in my own opinion.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: So this isn't take take this one with a grain
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: of salt. But I'm putting in there because it's my
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: opinion and my experience, you know, and I know that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: her experience is not everybody's. Like I said, I have
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: a couple very dear friends who ran a LARP, who
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: ran a lot of entertainment stuff, who absolutely loved it.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: And we're planning on bringing their kids there and like
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: had an amazing time. So I do think that it
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: was a little mix of like, some things Disney could
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: have done better, and then also her just having.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: The worst, like the worst luck. Yeah, so yeah, I
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: feel awful about that. I would have much preferred that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: she had had a phenomenal experience but still recognized where
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: the shortcomings were, because then at least I wouldn't feel like,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: oh man, she spent six grand on this, Although knowing
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: that her video, which is four hours long, four hours
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: and some change, has had more than six million views
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: makes me feel a little better because I'm pretty sure
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: she's recapturing the money she spent on that vacation.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so. And that was not even in
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: our show notes. That was a little bonus for y'all.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: But we have reached the end of our episode not
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: as bad as we sometimes do.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Well, Nope, I take it an hour and twenty two minutes.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Like look, now an hour and a half is now
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: the new standard length for an LLENC episode.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: We started it forty minutes an episode. I just want
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: to say, and like when we first did ELLENC, when
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: we first from video format to podcast format, and this
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: is my last thing I promoted, and it we're running late.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Like we started with reasonable episodes and eventually we got
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: up to very very long episodes and we're doing it again.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: So I realized that that can be hard to like
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: listen to, and you sometimes have to come back to it.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: We will try to keep I'm not saying that at all,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: not even a little okay, because I will try to
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: keep it. I love very long podcasts, and sure I
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: might listen to them in two or three settings, whatever
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: it may be. But when it's something that I enjoy,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I never think, Man, I wish there were less of this.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, So we'll get to critical
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: roll length episodes.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: This is like the only time we get to talk
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: to each other, so we need.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: To work on that, we do. We really need to
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: work on that. Okay, Well.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: On that now.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to end the episode. Thank you all so
• 1:23:00
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