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Friday 5pm hour 05/08/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: It's 506, 54 degrees, some rain in my neck of
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  Speaker 1: the woods here at Tiffany Boulevard in Boardman, our studios,
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  Speaker 1: and G2 coming up. You were talking about the UFOs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to make a point.
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  Speaker 2: On the UFOs, but first I did see Ted's pic
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook. Unless it's just AI, maybe he just Photoshopped
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  Speaker 2: himself in there.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it isn't, Ted. That's, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My nephew took a picture of, like, my family just
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  Speaker 2: all sitting down. And through AI, he made a movie
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  Speaker 2: of us all just getting up and giving high fives
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  Speaker 2: to each other. I mean, just from one still photo
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  Speaker 2: on camera.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, the UFOs, though, all the news coming out today.
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  Speaker 2: So if a spaceman lands in the U.S., is he
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  Speaker 2: an illegal alien?
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  Speaker 1: Good point. What will we call them?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to set up a dome or
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  Speaker 2: something to keep them out. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Based on what they're saying and what you're seeing, do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in UFOs?
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  Speaker 2: I completely think it's possible, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That there are visitors from other planets or galaxies?
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  Speaker 2: The universe is so advanced. I mean, it's so expansive
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  Speaker 2: that there's millions of planets and solar systems, and there's
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  Speaker 2: got to be somebody smarter. You think like the little
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  Speaker 2: atom guys and neutron and everything, they always thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's nobody else out there until we got our big
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  Speaker 2: electron microscopes and start looking in on them. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the same thing. The aliens got way more
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  Speaker 2: advanced stuff, and they're looking in on us.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I mean, they were saying, where was it
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  Speaker 1: that some of these Area 57 or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: I forget what they call it, Roswell and this kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. I think it's Area 51. Area 51, that
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  Speaker 1: they reversed engineered stuff and they don't want people to
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  Speaker 1: know that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to know the answer. For some reason,
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  Speaker 1: they say, well, the government's not going to tell you
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  Speaker 1: the truth because people would panic if they knew the truth.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't buy that for a second. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to believe about it. Do you remember
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  Speaker 1: when all those people were worked in a tizzy over
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  Speaker 1: that stuff that was flying around? Was it New York
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  Speaker 1: or New Jersey that was moving around? And here it
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  Speaker 1: was just your military. That was in some type of
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  Speaker 1: new drone activity that finally came out. And you had
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of people asking questions about that, including political
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  Speaker 1: people who didn't have a clue what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: And here was just a situation where you had the
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  Speaker 1: military with the latest and greatest drone invention that they
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  Speaker 1: had that was doing this kind of stuff. And somehow
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  Speaker 1: that information finally came out. But it didn't come out
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  Speaker 1: after it took a while before it came out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I heard on another show, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: a national show, some guy made a good point where,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're spending all this money to keep Area
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  Speaker 2: 51 secret since 1947. So where's all this money going?
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  Speaker 2: If it's not going to looking up at UFOs or,
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  Speaker 2: you know, dissecting the bodies, where's all that money going,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Good point. Good topic. Thank you. Appreciate it. The unknown caller.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to go. He's always got to go. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch more calls standing by. G2 will join
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  Speaker 1: me as we take some of those as well. Any comments, G2,
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  Speaker 1: on this UFO stuff?
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  Speaker 6: Well, first on Tex Fisher.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was surprised to hear that he'd missed 47%
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  Speaker 3: of his votes, so I checked into it. The votes
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  Speaker 3: that he missed happened before he took office. So that's
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  Speaker 3: what the website shows, and I look at those websites too.
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  Speaker 3: I use them. 78% is actually a pretty good score
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  Speaker 3: for a Freedom Index, believe it or not. You've got
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  Speaker 3: to be like Massey to get up to like 101.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to really be like him to get to
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  Speaker 3: the top of the ranks, but you've got to be
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  Speaker 3: there a while to do it as well. But 78%
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  Speaker 3: would be like four times better than John Thune. But
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  Speaker 3: the idea of missing all those votes kind of shook me.
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  Speaker 3: I was stunned a little bit, so I went and
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  Speaker 3: checked into it. They all occurred before he was put
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  Speaker 3: into office, before he was sworn in. So he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: actually eligible to cast those ballots.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes sense. What are your thoughts? You mentioned Massey.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, all of this outside money is funneling into
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  Speaker 1: this congressional race in Kentucky. It might be one of
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  Speaker 1: the most expensive ever to try to defeat Massey. What's
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts about Massey and Trump turning on him and
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  Speaker 1: all the outside money coming in?
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think the people of Kentucky
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  Speaker 3: ought to have a voice in this. And outside money
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  Speaker 3: is unfortunately able to move the needle so hard. Massey
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  Speaker 3: was winning his races with extraordinary margins. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about he was getting 70, 80 percent of
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  Speaker 3: the vote, something like that. There were extraordinary margins. So
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  Speaker 3: when you look at his voting record, going right back
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  Speaker 3: to these indexes, I was looking at a graphic that
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  Speaker 3: had the index for him and others.
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  Speaker 6: He was like 101.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how you get extra credit. And then
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  Speaker 3: you look at somebody like Foon, F. You look at
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  Speaker 3: somebody like Johnson. Last time I checked, I think he
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  Speaker 3: was in the 70s, which is pretty good, but he's
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  Speaker 3: not pushing the Save Act. So when you look at
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  Speaker 3: the actual people in office, they're really low. Massey stands
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  Speaker 3: out head and shoulders above. Right behind him would be.
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  Speaker 6: Like marjorie taylor green so there's.
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  Speaker 3: A problem here and that the harder you vote in
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  Speaker 3: the way that the people want the more opposition you
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  Speaker 3: get so i think and i know people who are
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  Speaker 3: really smart and really well-informed who really think he's sort
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  Speaker 3: of cracked up a little bit but let's look at
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  Speaker 3: why he actually is now being what do you call
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  Speaker 3: it i guess disallowed by the deciders the deciders those
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  Speaker 3: who decide such things have disallowed him from the people
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  Speaker 3: of kentucky Because he called for the release of the
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  Speaker 3: Epstein files, which was something that had wildly strong support
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  Speaker 3: among the populace.
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  Speaker 1: And you called for that as well?
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  Speaker 3: I did, yes. And he voted against foreign aid. And
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to foreign aid, that's where Israel stepped
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  Speaker 3: in and said, wait a minute, you've got to vote
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  Speaker 3: for our foreign aid. He said, no, I don't support
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  Speaker 3: any foreign aid. We've got a $ 2 trillion deficit. Now,
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  Speaker 3: that is extremely consistent with everything he's said and done
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  Speaker 3: over the last, I don't know, since the time that
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  Speaker 3: I've been aware of him, okay? So I wasn't at
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  Speaker 3: all surprised by that. I wasn't offended by that. It's
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  Speaker 3: his right to have that view, and I thought he
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  Speaker 3: argued it well. That was deemed unacceptable and eventually anti-Semitic.
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  Speaker 3: So it was deemed then that the people of Kentucky
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  Speaker 3: could no longer select him. So, you know, that's it.
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  Speaker 5: He's out.
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  Speaker 3: Now, there may have been some other issues in there.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember what they are. There was something that
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  Speaker 3: Trump went at that he opposed and all this. This is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the way this is supposed to work, it's
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  Speaker 3: not necessary you agree all the time. But he certainly
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  Speaker 3: agrees with the American agenda more than almost anyone in Congress,
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  Speaker 3: maybe than anyone in Congress. And so, to me, this
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  Speaker 3: is a loss. Now, they've raised about $ 10 million. This
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  Speaker 3: is Mary Nadelsohn and uh... a couple of other folks
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  Speaker 3: in in the israeli group who said listen we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: put him out they've got a you know a veteran
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  Speaker 3: we always have to elect the veterans right i mean
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  Speaker 3: despite everything we see from all these vets like crenshaw
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  Speaker 3: and all these other guys with the cia in in
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  Speaker 3: in congress got a vote for the vet and they
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  Speaker 3: specifically say they like this candidate because he uh... absolutely
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  Speaker 3: totally completely supports israel and and this is where uh...
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  Speaker 3: they're missing the boat i mean browbeating everyone into blind
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  Speaker 3: support for israel isn't going to work and and pretending
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  Speaker 3: for example that they didn't have a hand in getting
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  Speaker 3: us into this war in iran that isn't going to
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  Speaker 3: work demanding that israel's interest be put ahead of the
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  Speaker 3: united states it's not going to gain you favor and
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  Speaker 3: i don't think the israelis including those that are american
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  Speaker 3: who identify with israel in such a close level that
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  Speaker 3: like they really think israel is.
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  Speaker 6: Them in their israel it isn't going to work to
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  Speaker 6: sort of try to force everyone into this. Now, showing
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  Speaker 6: how much power they have, the AIPAC power.
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  Speaker 3: The lobby power, the donor power of Steve Wynn and
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  Speaker 3: all these guys, Mark Levin's media power, the power they
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  Speaker 3: have at Fox News and now CBS and pretty much
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  Speaker 3: every platform, it's not going to make Americans feel real
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  Speaker 3: good about being put in second place. And that's how
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  Speaker 3: many Americans feel. You may disagree with this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you that millions of Americans now look at
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  Speaker 3: this and say we go to war because Israel said so.
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  Speaker 3: We're constantly told Israel's interests have to come above our own. Huckabee,
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  Speaker 3: Ted Cruz say if you don't do what Netanyahu says,
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  Speaker 3: God will be mad at you. And you can pick
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  Speaker 3: that apart and say, oh, technically that's exactly what they mean.
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  Speaker 3: So when you're getting beat with this all the time, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: you're getting a response. And then this thing, I heard
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  Speaker 3: some of the commentary about Tucker and I don't know who.
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  Speaker 1: And Margie Taylor Greene, yeah, those three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were like two members of the House today
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  Speaker 3: resolution condemning Candace Owens and some guy, I don't even,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know who he is, because they said something
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  Speaker 3: they don't like. I mean, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 3: You got members of the House going after podcasters because
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  Speaker 3: they don't like what they said? and and that's about
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  Speaker 3: the republican and a democrat which then reinforces the message
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  Speaker 3: that a certain group has tremendous bipartisan control in that
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  Speaker 3: there is no island congress the harder they try to
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  Speaker 3: force you to believe something that more you won't believe it,
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  Speaker 3: except for maybe 30 percent of the population. And I
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  Speaker 3: think this is backfiring horribly. Now, Tucker Carlson, I know
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  Speaker 3: that he was they asked him if he said something.
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  Speaker 3: He said, no, I didn't say, listen, that guy's got
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  Speaker 3: thousands of hours of media time. He's changed positions over
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  Speaker 3: the years. He's, I'm sure, gone one way one time
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  Speaker 3: or another. There's no doubt that he doesn't remember things
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  Speaker 3: he said. Either way, I'm just listening to what he's
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  Speaker 3: saying now, and frankly, I don't listen to him that much.
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  Speaker 3: But when he did the interview of the Christian in Palestine,
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  Speaker 3: if you weren't moved by that, then you are really
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  Speaker 3: ideologically captured. When he did the interview with Huckabee, if
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  Speaker 3: you weren't concerned about that, then you're ideologically so dedicated
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  Speaker 3: to this Zionism that, you know, that that's where you are.
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  Speaker 3: And okay, that's your Zionist.
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  Speaker 6: That's okay.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you just have to make a decision as
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  Speaker 3: to whose interests come first. Is it the United States
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  Speaker 3: or Israel? This is, you know, look, I don't hate Jews.
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  Speaker 6: They always say, oh, anti-Semitic.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, disagreeing with a policy of the political entity like
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  Speaker 3: the state of Israel doesn't make you hate some group
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  Speaker 3: of people. And if you look at southern Lebanon, which,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, I don't think we're supposed to look
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  Speaker 3: at because you notice nobody's talking about it. Well, go
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  Speaker 3: look at that and tell me there's justification for that.
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  Speaker 3: There isn't. There just isn't. And I heard some people saying, well, listen,
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  Speaker 3: they're all terrorists.
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  Speaker 6: Level the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what they did. And, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when you go out in a day and you kill
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  Speaker 3: 400 people but don't actually identify who they are in
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  Speaker 3: one day, And you know that they're attacking Christian villages
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  Speaker 3: and doing that and then claiming they're Hamas or Hezbollah?
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  Speaker 3: It's not selling. And so I think that this debate
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  Speaker 3: that's going on where people are raising questions and others
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  Speaker 3: are condemning them for raising the questions. That's that's an
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  Speaker 3: important debate.
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  Speaker 1: It should go on.
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  Speaker 3: Form your own opinions. You know, if you follow Fox News,
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  Speaker 3: you think anti-Semitism is the biggest problem we have in
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  Speaker 3: the country. I don't. I actually think we have bigger problems.
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  Speaker 3: And in fact, if we were an anti-Semitic country, I
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  Speaker 3: think we'd notice.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But like I said, Larry Ellison just bought CBS and
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  Speaker 3: TikTok to drive that message. You've got half the administration
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  Speaker 3: is Israeli, and in the last administration it was half.
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  Speaker 3: That's 2% of the population that is tremendously overrepresented in government.
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  Speaker 3: So an anti-Semitic country wouldn't do that, right? It wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: happen that way. You know, you wouldn't have Anthony Blinken
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  Speaker 3: as your Secretary of State if you're an anti-Semitic country.
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  Speaker 3: So this is, I think... all about driving a narrative
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  Speaker 3: that supports a political agenda and the agenda is really
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  Speaker 3: simple we want to take out iran we want to
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  Speaker 3: take out other regimes we wanted to take out beer
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  Speaker 3: bashir al-assad and we need the u.s. military machine to
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  Speaker 3: do it and so that's that's the goal and it's
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  Speaker 3: not just their goal as we talked about the other
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  Speaker 3: night there are several entities that seem to be fighting
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  Speaker 3: for control of the united states printer and military and
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  Speaker 3: culture right to some element of one or all three
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  Speaker 3: of those And if you look at this.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. No, I'm just saying when you take a
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  Speaker 1: look at this, you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, you
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  Speaker 1: look at Massey, and you see everything that I think
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  Speaker 1: is good, and yet they're out to destroy them, they
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  Speaker 1: being this big lobbyist money. When they're shipping that much
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  Speaker 1: money in to try to defeat these people, that's when
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  Speaker 1: you better take a serious look at these people and
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  Speaker 1: what they stand for, because when you look at it,
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  Speaker 1: you find they pretty much stand for what most people
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  Speaker 1: stand for. Why are they trying to destroy them?
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  Speaker 3: That's right. We talked about APAC, so I looked up
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  Speaker 3: their funding, and they had something like $ 52 million in
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  Speaker 3: contributions in the 23 to 24 cycle. That is a
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  Speaker 3: massive amount of money on In politics, right? That is massive.
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  Speaker 3: And if you think about the amount of spending that
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  Speaker 3: Israel's committing to try to convince us of certain things,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they call this Hasbro or public diplomacy or PR,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you call it. You know, they spent like $ 150
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  Speaker 3: million in 2025, which is about 20 times more than before.
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  Speaker 3: That was 2025. That was $ 120. $ 150 million, according to
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  Speaker 3: what I've been able to find, then I'll look at
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  Speaker 3: $ 730 million. That's $ 730 million to convince us of certain things,
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  Speaker 3: to push narratives in media. Now, you remember when they
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  Speaker 3: brought 1,000 evangelical pastors over, and they ran this program
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  Speaker 3: called 50 States, 1 Israel. Not 50 States, the United States,
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  Speaker 3: and Israel. 50 States, 1 Israel. They were engaging directly
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  Speaker 3: with these pastors and saying, you're to be our ambassadors.
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  Speaker 3: You have to agree to be our ambassadors. God calls
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  Speaker 3: upon you to be our ambassadors.
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  Speaker 5: And they did.
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  Speaker 3: These evangelicals came back to the United States and started
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  Speaker 3: pounding the pulpits with Israel's message. And then they called
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  Speaker 3: over the social media influencers, obviously not Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: Right, stand by, just stand by. Hang on, talking about
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  Speaker 1: the controversy with Tucker and a whole lot more. Radio
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKVN. Ron Verb, 525 G2 with us till 6 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: You want to take some calls as we go along
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  Speaker 1: here too?
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  Speaker 3: You bet.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Let's grab some. You're on here. Are you there?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, G2.
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  Speaker 5: This is Tex Fisher. Just calling in. Heard some folks
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  Speaker 5: were calling about my attendance record.
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  Speaker 1: G2 kind of answered that to say that there's absenteeism
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  Speaker 1: on all these votes, and then G2 said that was
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  Speaker 1: before you were even in office. That was during, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: when Al Catrona was there.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that is correct. So I got a flurry of
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  Speaker 5: text messages from some friends saying that somebody was on
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  Speaker 5: there and I should call in. So appreciate you setting
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  Speaker 5: the record straight there, G2. Yeah, I can't take votes
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  Speaker 5: when I wasn't in office yet, but very proud of
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  Speaker 5: my attendance record and voting record. And I actually was
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  Speaker 5: just made aware of that. freedom score, that freedom index scorecard.
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  Speaker 5: So I just took a look at that, but do
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  Speaker 5: want to draw attention to the turning point action scorecard
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  Speaker 5: where I have a 96. So also very proud of that,
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  Speaker 5: trying to get to a 97, but, um, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: just wanted to make sure that record was set straight
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  Speaker 5: because if I'm missing all those votes, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: why I'm driving down five hours every week to and
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  Speaker 5: from Columbus.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think this future is for Vivek? Looking
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  Speaker 1: good or going to be a tough race?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's going to be a very competitive election. I
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  Speaker 5: think some of the stuff going on at the national
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  Speaker 5: level is making people frustrated. And frankly, I think... Our
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  Speaker 5: biggest issue is not convincing people who might be in
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  Speaker 5: the middle. I think our biggest issue is proving to
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  Speaker 5: our own voters that we're worthy of reelection and that
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  Speaker 5: we're actually doing things they care about. And unfortunately, I
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  Speaker 5: think both at the state and the federal level, we've
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  Speaker 5: left a lot of really good stuff kind of sitting
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  Speaker 5: around waiting. And don't blame people that are frustrated with
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: the Republican Party across the board. You know, I'm excited about...
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: aspect of the vape governorship. I think there's going to
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: be a lot of bold reforms we need to do,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: but we at the state level have a lot of
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: work to do to prove to our voters that we're
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: worth continued employment. I mean, we should We have potentially
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: billions of dollars of Medicaid fraud happening in Columbus with
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: these home health care companies. And the breaking report that
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: just came out a few days ago from the Daily
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Wire highlighting just some of the low-hanging fruit. And part
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: of the problem there is we're dealing with a governor
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: and administration that refuses to acknowledge there's a problem, even
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: though it's pretty obvious and everybody with half a brain
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: can tell that we've got a problem. I really think
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: we need to honestly look into shutting these programs down
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: so we can figure out exactly what's happening with this
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: money because we spend a billion dollars on these programs
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: at the state level every year. Medicaid is half of
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: our budget, and we're just letting people, in many cases
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: people who are not even from this country or shouldn't
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: even be here, pocket hundreds of millions of dollars. of
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: our Medicaid funds. And I think those are the sorts
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: of things we need to act on to give people
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: a reason to show up to vote for us.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and protect their tax dollars. I would say one
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: of the most important things, I think Dave Thomas does
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a great job, is informing people all that you've done
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: for them. I mean, everybody will benefit from the changes
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: made in the increases of the re-evaluations being capped at
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the inflation rate instead of 20 or 30 percent. If
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it wasn't for the Republicans, that wouldn't have happened, Tex.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, 100%.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Look, and we were fortunate to get a little bit
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: of bipartisan support on some of those bills, but again,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: a vast majority of those bills were passed with Republican support.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Stand by for a second. Stand by, Tex. Just hang
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in there, Tex. Back with Tex Fisher and G2 in
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a minute, so stay tuned. News Radio 570. WKVN. WKVN.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Back to it. Sir Ron Ferb with G2 on News
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Radio 570. WKVN and Tex Fisher. Part of the problem
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: is I just think it's the low information voter, Tex.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you take a look at who's launching
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the campaign to deal with the property tax issue, forget
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the let's just set aside the constitutional amendment because... The
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Republicans are saying, here's what we're doing. You know, Dave
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Thomas coming up with legislation, you guys supporting it, backing it,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and championing it, that has benefited everyone out there, Democrats
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: or Republicans. And if it wasn't for the Republicans, none
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of that would be happening. Yeah, absolutely.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: I think it's pretty clear on the property tax issue, too,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: is we've got one side that likes to talk about it,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: but every substantial, meaningful solution that gets proposed, they tend
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: to be universally opposed.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: On.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the tough part is, you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: we do have to get the word out there about
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: the good things that we've done, but I also think
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: that we can't get to a position where we're just
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: patting ourselves on the back pretending we've solved an issue
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: or issues that we haven't solved yet.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: We need to be.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Playing offense constantly the rest of this year and really
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: in perpetuity. I think that's the biggest problem the Republican
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Party has had in my lifetime is really up until
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Trump came along, it was a lot of us sitting
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: around and saying, oh, woe is me, we didn't win,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: and then not actually doing anything about it, not taking
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: the fight to the left and tackling these issues and
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: letting the Democrats run around and tell all sorts of
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: lies about what's going on and the way.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: These things actually work.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: And we need to go on offense, and I think
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: we need to do a whole lot more of that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned about DeWine and good riddance to him
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and all of this fraud that's going on. When you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: take a look at this fraud with the Somalis or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Medicare or Medicaid fraud that's going on, you're talking a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: substantial amount of our budgets. And what is his problem?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Why would you be pro-fraud? Why would he not want
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: this dealt with and looked into when people prosecuted and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this stopped? I mean, what's your read?
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the governor is generally somebody who doesn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: like a lot of change. And, you know, he's been
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: around for a long time. And, you know, he's done
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of things I'd give him credit for. But
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: I think generally at this point in his career, he
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to do anything aggressive and doesn't want to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: change things. And, you know, maybe there's an element of
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: massive fraud happening under his watch that maybe makes him
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: feel like, you know, how dare you say that? Everything's fine.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: You know, go look at this. Go do something else
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: sort of a thing. So I think... I don't have
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: an answer as to why. I think I hear even
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: whispers about this. When we first saw the issues happening
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: in Minnesota, I immediately started working on a letter from
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: our colleagues to try to ask the Auditor of State
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: to look into some of these programs because we have
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the exact same programs in Ohio. We have the second
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: largest Somali population of any state in the country, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: it's pretty clear the same sort of things are happening
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: here because we have these mountains of money that we
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: just give away for people to essentially sit at home
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: with their relatives, and it's a really nice Thought and concept,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I'm sure it does help some people, but when you're
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: throwing a billion dollars at a program to pay people
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to sit at home with their elderly relatives, you're just
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: creating a magnet for fraud. And pretending the issue doesn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: exist because you might not want to deal with it
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: or it might make you look bad is just governance.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: That's not what we're here for. We're not here to
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: make ourselves look good. We're here to be good stewards
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: of the taxpayer dollars. That's generally why people... And I
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: think we have made a– the administration has made a
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: mistake in trying to downplay these concerns and insist that
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: these safeguards are in place and these safeguards exist and
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: nothing bad can ever happen. When, you know, they said
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: they had safeguards in place in Minnesota, too, and we're
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: talking about $ 10 billion of fraud in Minnesota. We're just
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: beginning to scratch the surface of what's going on here
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: in Ohio because we're a bigger state. We spend more.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: We have more people. the likelihood that our fraud is
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: significantly less than what went on in Minnesota when we
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: have the same programs, the same demographics, and the same
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: types of problems we're already uncovering is very, very low.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: When do you think it'll be looked into or dealt with,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: or are you anticipating anything happening?
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we're going back into session next week.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Another one of my colleagues has been working on this
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Medicaid fraud issue for over a year. And we're going
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: to be very, very busy. I've already talked to the
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: chair of the Medicaid committee. She's planning on hauling people
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: in for testimony to try to figure out what's going on.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: And I think, again, we need to start doing more enforcement.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that pausing these programs entirely should
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: be off the table. Because if we're Just some of
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the things that I've read in the past couple days alone,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I really do think the smartest course of action would
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: be to pause these programs entirely until we can figure
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: out where this money's been going. Because there are people
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: that do need these programs. There are people that need
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: the support. But if we're letting all these people basically
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: steal from us to the tune of hundreds of millions of.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Dollars, we've got to stop it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: We have an obligation to the taxpayers.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Where was the auditor when all of this was going on?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Is that a fair question to ask, even though he's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a Republican?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fair question to ask. And by law,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: the auditor has to audit state agencies every five years. Now,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: the specific programs within those I think a lot of
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: these issues elevate to the level of a criminal investigation,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and that's something that I've been in contact with the
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Attorney General's office on. There is a process, but as
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: it is when you're dealing with all these different offices
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: and government in general, it's a lot of, well, we
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: don't have the right jurisdiction to do this, so you've
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: got to talk to these people first. You kind of
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: get the runaround, intentional or not. And it becomes very difficult,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and it's frustrating. And that's why I think ultimately we're
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: going to need a legislative solution to either give direct
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: power to the auditor to initiate audits of these programs
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: or try to get the, you know, we're going to
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: be having a new attorney general here soon. I know
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: that was a surprise to myself and a whole bunch
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: of people. But what matters to me is whoever the
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: governor appoints to be the attorney general for the rest
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of this year. I think they need to make.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: This their number one priority.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about Yost, the current attorney general,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: resigns to go into the private sector today in some
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: type of Christian organization. And he's going in that direction.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: It's led to believe that the guy that's running for
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: office potentially might get appointed the Republican that won the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: primary to be the next Attorney General. But it doesn't matter.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: We've got to get to the bottom of this fraud.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: This money could be used to offset any number of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: problems that people have with school funding or who knows what,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: where it could be used to ease our property tax burden.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But you guys got to get the message out on
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: everything that's been done I mean, I think there's not
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a better person than Dave Thomas who comes on and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: talks about it on a daily basis on what he's done.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It's benefited everybody listening. And what about the local government fund?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: The criticism that I hear from local politicians is how
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the local government fund has just been raided over the years,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and they're not getting enough of their money, our tax dollars,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: back to the local government. What are your thoughts?
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think the local government fund was particularly
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: under John Kasich. At this point, about 15 years ago,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: when he was trying to cover a large budget deficit,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: and it has over time, it has increased. Now, I
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: understand a lot of these local communities feel that it's
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: not enough, and I get that. I think we do
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: need to invest more in our local communities, but I
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: think we need to use... I think we need to
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: use these dollars to incentivize consolidation of services, shared service contracts. Essentially,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: we need to use extra dollars, and I've worked on
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: a budget amendment for this, actually, to create a fund
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: to incentivize these communities and local governments to share equipment,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: share services, and consolidate some of these duplicitous functions and
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: programs when necessary. I think the biggest problem we see
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: at local, really government at every level, but specifically in
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Ohio local government, there's a lot of duplication of services.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: You've got too many layers, too many taxing jurisdictions. Everybody
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: has their own little fiefdom, and nobody wants to change that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: And I think the spending has really what's driven this
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: property tax crisis. And I'm all for investing more in
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: our communities, but I think we need to tie it to...
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: the types of behaviors that we all agree need to
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: happen but are politically difficult or people just simply don't
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: want to do. So that's my approach and my take
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: on that is give them more money, but we've got
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: to incentivize them to be more efficient.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, TexG2, any comments?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I think you touched a minute on the auditor, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: in a normal financial audit, you're not going to find
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: this kind of fraud. They're just looking at how the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: numbers flow, is everything properly approved.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: This goes to.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Another level where somebody involved in this system, some of
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the millions of people involved across this country in state, local,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and national government should have said, wait a minute, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: know there can't be a mail-in checks 100 times to
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the same address. that can't be right. At some level,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: there had to be somebody that raised their hand and said,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: here's a problem, or the auditor's office has to really
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: increase its capabilities to identify red flags that indicate fraud,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: fraud indicators. And so this is a really significant systemic
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: thing that has to happen. It's just not enough that
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the auditor is saying, hey, You know, your numbers foot,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: your balance sheet and income statement are correct and properly
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: presented in compliance with the regulations. They have to develop
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: a fraud detection capability that is obviously missing. And I think,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: at least in Minnesota, intentionally so.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Right. And go out to these places to see what's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: going on. Because, Tex, could you be talking billions of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: dollars in Ohio?
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, over the past, I mean, the growth and the
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: spending of these programs since 2020 has been astronomical. So, yes,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I would not be surprised if we're talking billions of dollars.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: And this is not even your typical standard Medicaid fraud,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: which has existed for a long time. This is a
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: totally new grift, essentially, that has been set up with
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: the expansion of these programs after and during the pandemic.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: And I think G2 is spot on. I absolutely think
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: that the state of Ohio needs the utilize technology better.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is not difficult.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: This is not complex.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: There are so many programs and the technology already exists
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: for this sort of a thing. We should have a
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: robust system in the state of Ohio across every agency
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: and every agency to flag these things. Again, this is
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: not difficult. The technology exists. And that's, you know, getting
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: really into the weeds. We've got all sorts of problems
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: at the state level with technology procurement. We're giving Microsoft
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: these no-bid contracts. They get bigger every year. Never put
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: them out for bid and spending hundreds of millions of
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: dollars on duplicitous IT services when we could be using
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: technology to save money and better enhance the user and
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: constituent experience with government. And we're just not doing it
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: because people don't want to be bothered because it might
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: be a whole lot of work to set it up.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: But again, we can't let the bureaucrats make excuses. We
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: have to force them to do things because that's our job.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Well said.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And I think there's an additional problem, which is that
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: you're right. Some of them just don't want to be bothered.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Some of them are just drones doing their job. I'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: told to add these six numbers. I don't care where
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: they come from. But I think inside this monstrous machine
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of government, there is a huge nefarious element that is
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: intentionally stealing billions, knowing that no one is looking and
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: that they could just keep pumping the money out. And
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they've been successful for decades.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely. All right, Tex, we're going to have you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: on again more frequently. That's our goal, so stay tuned
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: for that to happen, all right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: All right, thanks, guys.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. All right, that's Tex Fisher on NewsRadio 570 WQEN.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And with G2, wait a second, you're on the air.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: Hello?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Hi, this is Christine Oliver.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Hi, Christine Oliver. Congratulations.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I really appreciate that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And a good campaign. And it seemed to me that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: when this was going on, you were pretty confident that
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you would be victorious. And it worked out the way
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you thought it would. Now, onward to the general, right?
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: Really hard work. Yes, absolutely. And I am looking forward
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: to winning that seat in November. And me and my
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: team is going to continue to work even harder than
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: we already did. But I'm really excited. And I really
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: would like to thank all the people who supported me
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: and believed in me, because I wouldn't have won without
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: all of them. And I really appreciate everyone.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I really think a large part of the reason why
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you won is not just a great campaign and you're
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You know, your efforts, I mean, when you speak of
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: some of the things that have happened to your mother,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: which are horrific, and when you talk about the... What
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you've done over the years for backing the blue, all
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: volunteer stuff, I think makes it makes a big impact.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: But I think two of the most important things was
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: your there was no gray area. It wasn't cloudy at all.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Here's where I stand on these two issues, the homestead
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: exemption and doubling the only occupancy. There wasn't any cloudy
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: issue there. You said this is what I'm going to do.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And if I'm elected, this is what I'm going to champion.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think those were game changers for you. Would you agree?
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: Yes, and also I think another game changer is the
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: fact that I ran my campaign and I did not
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: do anything negative. I just worked and went towards what's
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: important for our voters, you know, for our taxpayers, and
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: I definitely am going to champion for them not only
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: with the property taxes, but also, like I said before,
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: protecting seniors because of my personal experience and helping to
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: make sure our loved ones are safe.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Years ago, we had an unspudsman, I thought, in Mahoning County.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what his name was that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: actually went around to these nursing homes. I don't even
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: know if that position is still in county government, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it was actually somebody that was actively involved if families
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: had an issue or a complaint or inspecting some of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: these places. If that doesn't exist, it certainly should be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: brought back.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: It's interesting that you say that because that's one of
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: the things I did not speak of in my campaign.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: But there's like a state person, but I did tell
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: the other two commissioners, Anthony Traficani and Gino DeFabio, that
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  Speaker 7: is one of my goals is for us to have
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  Speaker 7: a local ombudsman to help take care of the families
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  Speaker 7: and their loved ones. So that is absolutely something I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: going to champion for.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so that if you've got a problem or an
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: issue or a complaint, you can call that particular person.
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  Speaker 1: Or perhaps they can do some random inspections too.
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  Speaker 7: That's exactly what I'm hoping for because that's unfortunately what
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: I discovered during the time when I went through this
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: with my mother is that It's like a planned thing.
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  Speaker 7: People know you're coming. And that's not going to help
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  Speaker 7: protect the people we care about. If they're planning for
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: you to appear, you just have to show up.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, it is definitely an area that needs
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to be addressed. I mean, it's going to... Do you think... Well,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you ran an excellent campaign. Thank you. And when the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: dust settled, it really wasn't even close. I mean, were
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you surprised by the margin of victory? I..
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: Well, my consultant thought it was going to be like
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: within 5%, and he was extremely thrilled that it was
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: over 10%. I was very happy. I was not surprised
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: by the third-place person, the margin of difference at all,
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: because of what I saw happening during the campaign. But, yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: I did feel that... The other one was going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: be more of a challenge because of being in the township.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: But I was really surprised at how well I actually
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: did in Austintown Township, too. So we just, you know,
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: we worked hard and we believe in what we're doing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: I believe in what I'm running on, and I am
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  Speaker 7: a fighter. I'm one of those people that I want
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: to make a difference. And like you said about Back
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: to Blue, that is my baby. This year will be
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: number seven, and we are going to be dedicating it
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: this year to Trooper Caton's family, specifically on the green,
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: and donate that money to the scholarship that they have
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: set up for Trooper Caton. So we're looking forward to that, too. Oh,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: and here's the really cool part about this year. John
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Kufleitner is going to put on the largest car show
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: the Mahoney Valley has ever seen for our Back the
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: Blue fundraiser.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Excellent. Excellent. You know, I think the downfall of the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Shepis campaign was he wouldn't take a stand on either
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of those two vital issues to say, I think the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: taxpayers come first. And I think that was a major
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: fault of his campaign. And it's where you excelled and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: where he failed. I never, in the whole scope of things,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I never thought there were, in the three-person race, I thought,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, it was basically a two-person race, as
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: far as I was concerned.
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: I did, too. In fact, we ran our campaign as
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: if it were a two-person race.
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Now, here's the key question before I go. What was
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it like meeting Ted the Conservative?
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Oh, my gosh. I got to tell you how that happened.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: So we we knocked on a lot of doors, went
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: out and met the people. And young Dylan, who was
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: one school board position in Columbiana at the age of 21.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: He's an amazing young man. And we went out to
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: the outer skirts of Mahoning County, which is actually, you know, Columbiana.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: And as some people thought that I didn't know where
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: Mahoning County was, well, it's there. And so we're knocking
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: on all these doors. And I go to this one
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: door and this lady says to me, she knew me.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: She had moved from Canfield. She gives me a big hug.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: She was excited to see me. She said, we've already
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: voted for you. And then she goes, you see that
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: man right there? She goes, he's a huge conservative. He's
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: on the 570 show all the time. That's Ted. And
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: I went, what?
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Stand by.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Christine, hang on. I've
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: got to do my break-in and finish the story, all right?
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Hang on. Back with Christine Oliver in G2 in a minute.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: All right, with G2. All right, Christine Oliver, so you're
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: knocking on doors in Columbiana, and what happens?
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: So I knock on this one door. She knew me.
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: She's talking to me, and she says, Do you see
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: that guy over there? He's a huge conservative. He filled
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: in on the 570 show.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: His name is Ted.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, no way. Oh, my gosh, you're kidding me.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: So I'm like, hi, Ted. And then I go running
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: over there. And he felt so bad. He was apologizing
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: because he was on his way to the doctor for
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: his leg. And I'm like, no, Ted. I said, I,
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: of all people, know you need to go take care
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: of that wound on your leg, please. And so eventually
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: I was able to invite him to come to our
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: watch party, which was at the Bellary in Canfield. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: everyone was so excited when he showed up. It was
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: like the local celebrity. Everyone was thrilled to finally know
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: and meet Ted the Conservative. He's a great person.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: He really is. He's a great guy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: I think he's wonderful.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: He is a wonderful guy and a great guy and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: got great political insights. Well, congratulations, Kia. You know, call
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: us now that the election's over. Let us know how
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: things are going and stay in touch here on the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: air with us.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: I sure will. Thank you and have a great weekend.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Congratulations, Christine Oliver.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: Thank you again.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: All right, so successful. How about that, G2?
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Well, she ran a great campaign. She ran on real issues. And,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you know, there are three specific issues that I think
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see her focus on one is this
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: property taxes. She's got to drive those down. Promoting economic
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: development without giving away the taxpayers' money is really an
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: important point to take. And then she has a point
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: on her better government transparency. You know, that is mission
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: critical as well. You know, I'm less concerned about caring
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: for the seniors because I think they get cared for.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's a very important one. issue and what
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: happened to her mother was horrific in care.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: What that is. Believe me, it is a very important
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: issue because there used to be, and you might be
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: right to state guy locally, I forget his name, I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: interviewed him numerous times that would go around to these
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: facilities to make sure they were all doing what they
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: were supposed to do or families had somebody to call.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's a very vital and important issue.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not familiar with what happened with her family,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: but I hear about caring for the seniors all the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: time with the property tax and everything.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: This has to do with..
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: And help us fix this thing.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: More with monitoring at nursing home facilities. Let's put it
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's a different issue. Yeah, this nursing home
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: abuse is out of control. I don't understand how that's allowed.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, that should be the sort of... Truth be told,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the plaintiff's bar ought to be fixing that because they
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: ought to be suing these nursing home administrators into oblivion
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: if they let that happen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right. You're done with me for now because
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: it's Friday night date night.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I've got some.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Things to do.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So have a great evening. And what an interesting hour
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: this was. We'll chat again next week.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Back in the bunker, okay?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Yep. Bye-bye.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: There you go. We'll be back.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: From ABC News, I'm Mike Dabusky. We're learning some new
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: details about how health authorities plan to handle the arrival
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: of a Dutch cruise vessel in the Canary Islands this weekend.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: That's the ship at the center of a hantavirus outbreak,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: which has already killed three people. The 19 Americans on
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: board will be transported to the University of Nebraska Medical
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Center for quarantine.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: John Lowe is the director of the Global Center for
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Health Security at that hospital.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: What we've been called on to do is to support
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: the U.S., in bringing back a group of American citizens
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: back to the U.S. safely and to ensure that they're
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: safely monitored.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: The ship is likely to dock in the Canary Islands
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: sometime midday Sunday. Russia and Ukraine have agreed to exchange
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: a thousand prisoners as part of a new short-term ceasefire.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: Russia and Ukraine have agreed to this brief three-day ceasefire
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: this weekend. over Russia's Victory Day holiday when Vladimir Putin
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: holds a huge military parade on Moscow's Red Square. The
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: Kremlin was worried Ukraine might attack the parade. After President
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Trump pressed Ukraine, President Zelenskyy tonight agreed to no attacks
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: on condition that Russia free 1,000 POWs. but there's no
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: reason to believe that Putin will extend the ceasefire after
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: the holiday. Patrick Rievel, ABC News, London.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: The Labor Department today found the U.S. added 115,000 jobs
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: in April. Here's ABC's Elizabeth Schulze.
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: It is double what the expectation was when it comes
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: to new jobs added. And what we're looking at now
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: is two months in a row of job gains, whereas
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: really up until now for the past year plus, We've
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: seen job gains, job losses, job gains, losses. That was
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: really putting the job market on shaky ground. If we
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: see continuous month of job growth, that is a good sign,
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: even if it's at a lower level than we had.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: Been used to.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: The unemployment rate stayed steady at 4.3 percent. And Virginia
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: now says it's going to appeal a decision from a
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: court today striking down a redistricting referendum that voters approved
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: last month. You're listening to ABC News.