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AEW News and Discussion | AEW After Double or Nothing · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with the
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aw Fan podcast team. A boy, we just saw Double or Nothing and
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there's a lot of stuff leading up to Dynamite that we're going to talk about.
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This is Kelson, This is Alex and yeah, I don't know what
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you want to talk about. First, I was thinking maybe the biggest moment
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from Double or Nothing was the return of MJF. Definitely that was pretty big.
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Yeah, and I think that that's pretty interesting. Like MJF he did
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return right after a will Osprey match, and for my money, like thinking
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about AW the biggest few that they could possibly have, what I'd love to
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see maybe headlining or a big match at all in is MJF versus will Osprey.
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I don't know how how you guys feel, but I feel like will
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Osprey is like way better than anyone expected promo wise, but no one's better
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than MJF. And I just want to see them in the ring cutting a
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promo setting up an amazing match. Well, Ax, do you think that
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maybe that's having MJF and will Osprey is maybe a little too soon to take
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their shot? Yeah? No, you know what I do feel like that.
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I feel like you you wait, so maybe not all in, but
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but that's that's a feud, like like Rock Austin and I know that's like
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a huge feud, but that could be like Aw's version of that, like
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just their two biggest stars at the top of their game having a feud that
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could last for years and years and they could come back to it. Yeah.
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I mean, well, I would have used a different example. I
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was or Pentacle and Nila Rose, but Austin, okay, I look for
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a look for HIMJF to come back and do a little bit. I think
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you got to do the Samoa Joe out Adam Cole kill before you do anything
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with anybody else. New you got to come back. He's come back.
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He's already. He's already fired the first salvo against Adam Cole. So all
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we have to do now is wait for Adam Cole to get cleared and then
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you can have that battle. And that's where they should go with him first.
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But that was an amazing thing to see that night. That was a
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huge pop. MK. Let me ask you this did because I didn't notice
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anything that anybody else. I'll ask MK, and everybody else could chime in
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if they want. I didn't notice like any kind of stiffness or any kind
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of limp or anything from him from MJF, did you. No, I
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think he's back and better than ever. He he he put on some good
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moves and he and he's well well, like I said, repeat myself,
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but he's back and he's ready to go. And I was. I was
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more interested in seeing Adam Cole taking the bump than I was in JF doing
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it, because that means he's getting ready to come to be better to come
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back. No, I did read. I did read a report that Adam
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Cole is not close to being cleared, and I did notice him limping a
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little bit. I don't know if that was k fabe. That was before
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MJF did anything to him. He did limp a little bit, but he's
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definitely moving better than he was when he was sitting in the wheelchair. Yeah,
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he took a brainbuster, so his feet feet don't really have to take
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any impact. He doesn't have to run around m So what exactly he in
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here? I think he broke his foot, right, he was just like
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jumping off a ramp. Yeah, I think it was the foot as Yeah,
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he messed his ankle whip when he came off the ramp. But though
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I can't remember which show it was now, so it's the same type of
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thing that Adam Copan is going through, I think, out of probably a
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little bit more serious. Yeah he should. He fractured his shin so tibia.
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Yeah, yeah, it was basically your shin. So he's going to
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have to require surgery and it's going to be a little bit more than an
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ankle injury. Yeah, But the good news is they'll probably put some uh,
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you know, screws in that sucker and just have him heal up and
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be ready to go again. He'll just have a hard time getting through security
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at airports from now on. He's a damn vampire. Come on, now,
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yeah, they have healing powers, come on exactly. That was a
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stupid spot, though, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I mean, I'm
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fifty six years old. If I was wrestling, there ain't no way in
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the hell I'm climbing fifteen feet in the air. And he would have not
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hurt himself if he would have hit Malaki first, But he jumped to his
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feet first. That made no sense. I'm sitting there going did he just
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blow that was that a Was that a botch? Or? Did he do
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that? Was that was a botch? It? If you did? You
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see the uh the I guess the video that Adam Copeland did where he basically
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made fun of himself. You know, he was like, I messed up,
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you know, totally on him. Even went so far as I raised
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the House of Black and uh say that they're great and everything, and he's
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gonna name his crutcheses uh after the boys. I'm I was crying. I
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was literally crying when I saw that. So let's get back though. I
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mean, MK, you think it was you? You brought up Samoa Joe
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finish business with Samoa and Joe. Maybe just maybe, oh that was you?
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Uh maybe going on to Adam Cole, maybe even Roderick Strong because you
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know he's part of that too. I don't know if anybody can make Roderick
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Strong all event, it would be MJF, right. Uh. I feel
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like Roderick Strong is a dynamite feud for m JF. That's not a pay
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per view, right. Does anybody else anybody else have a wish list of
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first opponents for MJF? M Not really? I mean there's so many I
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can think of, like Christian m JF Faith versus Christian heal. That would
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be a lot of fun for sure, him versus Okada, him versus like
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even Jack Perry, like seeing him represent aw against the elite, that could
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be a lot of fun. Like there's so many directions really anything with m
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JF. It's hard to go wrong. It's going to be interesting. But
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anything he is going to be elevated. Yeah, go ahead, don't go
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h you know him versus Jack Perry sells a lot because at last double or
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nothing, I believe it was he said that the Jack Perry needs to embrace
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a different side of himself and and and Perry finally has. So I think
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those two will be a great matchup to see. It will give Perry some
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credibility because you both can go uh, you know he he needs that right
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now. I like this storyline because it's helping Jack Perry a lot. And
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Jack Perry needs that one guy to set him up and put him on the
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road to mandivent status. Yeah not. Do you have any opinions on this
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on who you would like to see is Jeff's first opponents? I think I
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think Jack Perry is a pretty good choice for him. I don't know.
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I would like to see him take on our esteemed EVPs and some some role
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maybe uh not just you know, Jack Perry, maybe Al Kata something like
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that, something a little unexpected and just really really interesting. MJF is quite
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the character, so I think that anyone he wrestles it will be a really
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good lead up too, and I anticipate that almost as much as I do
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the actual match. So I'm just excited to see him back. Well,
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you know, this kind of brings me into the next point that we're going
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to talk about, and that's the owen Hart Cup and the announcement being that
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the winners of the owen Hart Cup will be the number one contenders for the
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men's and women's titles. Now this was before Adam Copeland broke his leg.
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Because on Dynamite we're getting the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet, which also has the
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stipulation at the winner and this is only on the men's side of course,
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will get a championship shot at Forbidden Door. Now, there are going to
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be some international stars supposedly in this match. But here's the thing. This
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was the winner the of the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet and the owen Hart Cup
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are going to be getting the same reward, and that's a chance, at
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least on the men's side at the aw Men's Championship. My idea was,
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because of Adam Copeland's injury, why not make the Forbidden Door Casino Gauntlet as
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a as the thing that determines who gets the shot at the TNT Championship.
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Last two men standing get a shot in the T and T Championship and then
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just have the owen Hart for what I think from thearre in Kelson is that
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the Owen Heart's not going to take place till after Forbidden Door. That's how
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I took it. I took it that wants they announced the casino for Forbidden
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Door that as soon as because you've got like a month and a half a
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month and a half almost between Forbidden Door and uh all in, so I
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assumed that that was where they would put the owen Hart Battle after Forbidden Well,
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they've already said that, Yeah, the finals are July tenth. Yeah,
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so they'll have the casino things tomorrow night to determine the Forbidden Door winner
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or challenger, and then whoever wins from Forbidden Door will face whoever wins the
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owen Hart at all in Yeah, you know, so let's us look at
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the old Heart real quick. Do we think that it would be smart to
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don't remember you got? I hope that they put out the entire brackets like
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they did with the Continental Classic, so that we can see the entire brackets
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and not just make them up as they go as they've done in the past.
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But with the owen Hart Cup. Would you like to see international wrestlers
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in in the owen Hart as well? And honor yes, but because he
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did spend time in Japan, I wouldn't being in there. I don't know
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who the top of my head, but I you know, you gotta give
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it some flair. You gotta give them a chance. And you know,
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I think it would be neat if they don't lose in the first round.
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Let's put them in there and give them a chance at least a small scott
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right, Yeah, I think it'd be good. Yeah. I want to
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share something with you guys about the women's division in the owen Hart Cup,
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because the women's division has a little bit of a problem going on, right,
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okay, And let me just explain what the problem is. On the
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official roster for aw's women's divisions, there's thirty eight women. Okay. Out
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of those thirty eight women, fourteen of them are either out with injury or
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paternity leave, or or just or just not used in a wrestling capacity,
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like for example, Riba. You know, she's still on the roster,
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but she's not been used. Leila Gray, she's wrestling everywhere else but a
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w Now, there are a few that are wrestling, like tayavl Athena,
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Billy Starks are almost exclusively on our oh, but they're on the AW roster.
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But here's the problem that they're running into. And I am including Chris
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Statlander in this up to twenty four remaining women who are not out right now,
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only eight of them are babyfaces. So you've got one third of the
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women's roster that's active right now our babyfaces. At two thirds of the women
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are heels. So you are you are you putting Tony Storm and Mariah may
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As in that situation? I kind of amu. I am putting Mariah may
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As a heel because she's been wrestling mostly heels. Now, there are some
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that are queens. They're ambiguous, like Kira Hogan, she's a babyface sometimes
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and she's a heel sometimes she plays the part that she's asked to play.
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So it's not an exact science, but the fact of the matter is,
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if you were to go through the roster right now and look at the women
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that are actively wrestling, you will clearly say that there's a significantly more heels
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that there are baby faces. Yeah, and it is a problem, and
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I agree with you one hundred percent. And they do it way, way,
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way too much. In aw if you look at the men's roster,
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you're going to see a lot of men or heels too. For whatever reason,
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Tony Kahn loves to have everybody be a heel, and it doesn't work.
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You can't have That's like making the nWo all nWo black and white and
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everybody else, like fifty thousand people all heels and you've got six people that
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are faces. It doesn't work like that. You got to stretch it.
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That was like one of the reasons why the whole need to turn stat Lander
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a heel or lily heel made no sense because you just add another heel to
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a bunch of heels that you can't you know, you can't have competition like
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at but it's like a shortcut to generate interest or give them a new thing
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to do. But the problem with that is, ever since the dawn of
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the Internet, your heel face then kind of doesn't make any difference anymore because
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you you you, you're gonna get heat. I mean, how many,
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how many times we see guys like Austin who was a heel but generated better
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heat. You got more cheers than anybody else on the roster. Look at
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MJF. MJFF biggest he in the company, but he gets face heat because
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people love him. But you're not getting that from everybody. And that's where
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the problem comes in. Well with somebody like he'll with a heel like Austin
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and MGF, they were more like they're more like anti heroes. You didn't
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you didn't say, oh I hate that guy and I hope he gets a
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crap beat out of him very often. I mean, you're always like,
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I just want to see him in the ring and doing a promo. You
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know, you got excited for the pop that they were going to give.
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I mean, it was that fair assessment and and sudden, you know,
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you grew up in the same era that I did. Basically, And I
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don't know about you guys, uh you know, but when I was growing
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up, babyfaces just got the snop beat out of them. I mean,
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babyfaces never had a belt, and if they had a belt, a long
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run for a babyface was a month, two or three weeks month. You
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know, I didn't have these long you know. I mean Rick Fleer,
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for example, Rick Dusty Roads were bitter rivals, but it was the most
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couldn't beat Rick Flair just to save his life. But it was all about
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the baby face chasing the title right for like months or even years, just
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to get that one point where they actually went Yeah. I mean, it
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was like one of those things where it was very emotional when a babyface won,
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because ever happened, my father was My father was always saying, you
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know how much he was disappointed in wrestling, because it always taught the kids
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that watched wrestling that the bad guys were the only ones that succeeded. Well,
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I think it was when the bad guys had the titles the most,
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but it was a bigger deal when the baby face won. The reason I
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brought that up is that with the owen Hart Cup, there's going to be
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a problem with having babyfaces to fill out the bracket. I don't think there's
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probably only going to be eight eight people like, it's probably going to be
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four and four at most sixteen, but I think you'll be I'll think you'll
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have eight. But it's gonna make it because because you don't want to have
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a heel going against the heel. It's gonna be when you see the baby
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faces in the bracket, it's gonna be like almost obvious who's gonna win?
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So who do you think is going to win? Like can is Jamie Hayter?
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And and then still hurt to where they can't they debut back and and
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be their first matches back into this tournament, because I thought I heard that
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Jamie Hayter was almost back and Britt Baker was too. Brit Baker's they've shown
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many videos of Britt Baker training with the likes of DDP. She looks in
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great shape. She spent backstage at dynamites and collisions and whatnot, but Jamie
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Hayter as not. And I just read a story from one of the Dirt
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sheets, and I don't know which one, saying that Jamie Hayter was not
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at double or nothing, and there's no timetable with Jamie Hayter one thing.
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You know, as far as who's going to win Alex Uh, I think
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that because Brit Baker had won the owen Hart before, I think it's gonna
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come down to Uh, Britt Baker versus Willow Nightingale with the owen Hart because
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they've both wanted before. Yeah, my prediction because I think it's maybe the
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biggest story they've had going and we know that the winner is going to compete
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it all in for the Women's Championship, So I I think Mariah May has
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a shot. I would look it set up an interesting match and it's a
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good way to showcase Mariah May is a threat. Like, yeah, I
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think that could be a really cool outcome. Yeah, but you're saying go
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ahead. I can see. Remember there are some younger folks who have potentially
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able to come back because reports are that Megan Bain is ready to come up
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and they're gonna get her a heel Gammick. There could be someone from Startingdom
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that comes over for a little bit, so I can see that. I
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love to give Megan Vain some experience and this and actually get her to win
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a match or two. But if I'm booking at I would look it as
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this is a perfect way for Mariah May two, drive Tony Thorm a little
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bit crazy and possibly her get close to it as well. Well. That
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that's going to depend on what happens if Forbidden Door, because they have the
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opportunity there to start the whole to begin the feud between Tony Storm and Mariah
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May. But because you see, that's the whole problem with that whole tournament.
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If let's say Tony loses it Forbidden Door, are they gonna leave her
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spot to have a chance at rematch at all? In I'd love to see
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Mariah May or even Scott Blue when that on the women's side, because I
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mean that would be amazing. On the men's side, I look for somebody
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like, uh, one of the younger guys that hasn't had a shot yet.
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Maybe Daniel Garcia would be a great win. Mm hmm. But Daniel
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Garcia versus Swerve or whoever's the men's champion and that as the main event of
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Wembley Stadium, that seems a little yeah, black and I love Daniel Garcia,
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but that's a tough s. Sorry, I don't know on the men's
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side, who I would honestly put that can match match it and make it
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like this big thing, because right now there's so many people on that side
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that I don't want to see Mocksley versus you know, it needs to be
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a two big names that have come up and done the thing, because there's
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so many big Manvin has already who who contential would do it, But I
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want to see all in the electric and someone who can match him move or
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move and just go crazy with it because a lot of people want Osprey just
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for because it's hometown guy. But it doesn't need to be. Yeah,
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how it is way in the future, you know, compared to Forbidden Door.
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Want to look, here's the thing. Okay, we know we are
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going to know tomorrow night who's going to be challenging strickling at Forbidden Door.
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And they've already said that there's going to be international champions or international wrestlers in
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this Forbidden Door because you know, Gauntlet match tomorrow night. So I fully
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expected an Internet and international wrestler to win this match, so that it is
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a Forbidden Door, true forbid door match at Forbidden Door. Here's one of
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the concerns I have is that I don't know how many people are going to
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be in this match tomorrow night that Forbidden Door got because you know, Gauntlet.
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But I hope that it's not some of the same guys that are in
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the Owen Heart Cup. And I also hope that it's not some people that
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when you look at them going there, will like, okay, there's the
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butcher to Blaze. They're going to be eliminated because you know that they're not
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going to be going to Forbidden Door, and it probably what may be the
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main event in fighting for the aw Men's Championship, you know what I mean.
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So they've got to play it smart, you know, Yeah, they
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can't, but they can't double up on the Owen Hard Cup. It's it's
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very weird. Well like the Owen Cart Cup is it's it's going to be
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six months, six weeks from now. Uh, it'll it won't start until
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after Forbidden Door, I assume, so we'll probably have long forgotten the match
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tomorrow night by the time the Owen Heart started. And yeah, I'm I'm
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very intrigued because this is supposed to be an international match. Theoretically, we're
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getting an international opponent for swerve, I've forbidden door, But yeah, what
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is the what's the mix going to be? Because yeah, I don't want
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to see a lot of aw people in the match. To more, I
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want to see as many CML guys, New Japan guys. Uh, maybe
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some surprises, right, maybe start Rob d Dam in there. Yeah,
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he's going to be in it. Honestly, what was that? Mkay?
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I wish they would announce who who's going to be in that match because it
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would help me to know who to look out for and who to research a
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little bit figure out who they are. Well, it's kind of a Gauntland
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match. Well it's Gotland match, So it's they're gonna be that tells me
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what they're coming out one by one? Right for every two minutes, I
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would like to know how many people that they have scheduled to come into the
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bat So yeah, I yes, it's kind of random because the match can
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theoretically based on how they did it last time, It can end at any
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time. It can end after two guys are in the ring. That's whoever
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gets the pinfall first, right, Yeah, so I guess they could keep
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on coming out forever. Yeah, Well you know, look, I mean
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that's going to be an interesting batch tomorrow night, and I hope they don't
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leave the show with it because I think it needs to be special, you
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know, and I yeah, but you also have to you know, I
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talked about doubling up on the owen Hart Cup. You know, Alex,
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you made a good point that the owen Hart Cup isn't going to be starting
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till maybe after we've forgotten about this match. But you know what isn't going
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to be forgotten is who's going to battle for the interim TNT Championship. So
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you Atw's kind of got a little bit of a it's probably maybe a good
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problem, but it's still a problem. They got to figure out what they're
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going to do with these belts. Yeah, so it's very weird. Yeah,
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And Tony's go to is a tournament, and now you have sort of
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a mini tournament tomorrow night. You have a tournament starting up in four weeks,
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So are you gonna squeeze another tournament in there? Are you gonna figure
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something else out for the the TNT title. My sleeper pick for tomorrow night,
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if he's in it, is going to be Juice Robinson, you know,
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coming back from an injury, and you know he showed up at at
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double or nothing. He looked ready to go have a lose, right,
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I got Jeff Cobb, that's a good one. Yes, he was in
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that match the week before and or wasn't there one he was in last week
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so he looked like, yeah, so I think it's I think he's going
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to be asleep before tomorrow night. What about the Abril kid he's been talking
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trash about. Aw. I don't know if this is a gimmick or or
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not, but I think that would be very interesting to see. Ah,
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yeah, that would be interesting. Yeah, he's interesting. And the thing
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with him is if he shows up in a w it does make him a
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hypocrite, whether that's a problem or not. But yeah, well, I
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mean we'll do a heck of a lot more tomorrow night. We'll be certainly
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talking about it on All YE Talk tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah, I
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think this is an awesome way to do it, just having you don't know
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who's going to show up. They're going to have a ton of random guys,
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the MLL guys. Hopefully we get Hetchasarrow. I'm very excited for this
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match. Yeah, yeah, so what do you want to talk about deck
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STYLEX. I'm seeing this. I didn't catch the media scrum, but apparently
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Tony con and I know there's been rumors of women's tag belts, but he
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also mentioned mixed gender belts. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing with this
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is we did see the breakup of Willow and Statlander, and that was like
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a headline, headliner tag team in the women's division that we assumed if they
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were going to make belts, That's kind of why they would be one of
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the teams competing. So it is interesting that that team's broken up before any
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of this happened. But yeah, I'm wondering your guys thoughts on having these
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new belts. Well, first of all, let's let's address the elephant in
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the room. Let's talk about the mixed gender belt. Does anybody want that's
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crazy? What's wrong with the mixed gender belts? Well, you can't fight
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in Oklahoma apparently because they don't women wait only if only if? Yeah,
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I guess you can't. Never mind, have they had any mixed ginger matches
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except for a couple in a W Wasn't there? They had one a few
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weeks ago. I think it was like Adam Copeland and Willow versus Yeah,
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and Buddy Matthews. Yeah, they've had a few coward one of them and
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uh or, but they've never had really a man fighting a woman like maybe
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they don't do that. Yeah. To me, it's so convoluted that you
30:48
have to tag out in and owl if you're depending on who's in it,
30:52
and that for me should be special matches. I don't want to see that
30:57
all the time. I don't think the only belts. I want to see
31:00
the women's tag team to make it a little more even, to get more
31:04
exposure. I don't want to see mixed at all, you know what,
31:07
I I don't want to see it. I was thinking about the women's tag
31:11
belts and the way that they're making Tony Storm a a babyface again. Basically,
31:21
could we see Thunderstorm get back together? Mm? So, I mean
31:30
hopefully Julia's on her way back. Juliet Sky Blue, Uh, God only
31:36
knows. I would love to see somebody like Statlander and Megan Baine together,
31:40
you know will oh maybe with even somebody like Mercedes. That would be interesting.
31:45
Yeah, I can see that, you know, Ryan Harley, Cameron
31:52
Tate Mellow said that she was last week she said she was two months away
31:56
from being cleared, so we could have Tate Mellow and and a j.
32:00
The return of kJ Doctors has so many possibilities, you know, so,
32:07
I mean you can't even discount Athena and Billy Starks. Yeah, and of
32:15
course Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter if they ever show up again in aw you
32:21
know. So there's all kinds of weird things that you can do, you
32:24
know, so it could be interesting. But I'm all for the women's belt,
32:30
the women's tag belts. I think that they were necessary a year ago
32:32
or more because that's the way you get women in wrestling matches, not not
32:40
in the mixed belts. That just does not make a lick of sense to
32:44
me at all. But the worst tag belt would be something that I could
32:49
get invested in. Ym HM, Like the mixed belts could be cool if
32:55
they actually allowed for intergender competition and stuff like that, it could be a
33:01
whole new network that Yeah. Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't think people really
33:07
want to see that, to be honest with you, I've seen what happened
33:13
at Lander versus men's opponents, and like they can have pretty entertaining competitive matches
33:21
and you know, it's never really been done on TV. But yeah,
33:25
but you know, I look at it and yeah, I'll bring up China
33:34
who famously took on men, you know when during her run in w W
33:39
E and then you know, rest in peace. But you know, the
33:45
men that she wrestled simply just to a man, they've all said that she's
33:52
just she was just god, yeah, you know, and it was Jo
34:00
had an interview I saw. She said that he said that China was not
34:05
that good and he had to carry the match and stuff. And I just
34:08
think it's weird to watch and gender match. I know that that that I've
34:15
seen some some YouTube video that people and I always just I can't watch.
34:19
I don't want to watch that. That's not something that interests me. But
34:22
some people do. And more power to him. But I've seen I've seen
34:28
Chris Statlander and inter gender matches. I've seen Julia Hart inter gender matches,
34:32
Billy Billy Starks. There's been several and it was all indies, and they
34:38
were all meaningless. I mean, you know, yeah, but all indeed,
34:44
you gotta have meaningful you gotta have meaningful matches. Of course, you
34:47
know, Nila Rose and Serpentego just accidentally won the championship that they've never defended
34:53
still to this day. I believe they think they wanted before Christmas. It's
34:58
the defended championship. But anyway, Yeah, but to me, it's just
35:05
not gonna work, you know, because, let's face it, not the
35:09
men have to hold back because of wrestling, that's hold back because of what's
35:20
considered taboo for the networks, et cetera, et cetera. You know what
35:24
I mean, And it just won't work. No. If that's the case,
35:31
if it's an advertising issue, then yeah, I mean, it's just
35:36
not gonna work. I mean, look at when Britt Baker went to the
35:38
aid of Adam Cole that you got the heck beat out of her. You
35:43
know, people lost their ever loving minds on the Why would you subject yourself
35:49
to that again? Because people will lose their minds on the internet for anything,
35:55
you know. Yeah. Yeah, so that's gonna be interesting. I
36:01
just hope that when they do announce, if Tony Kan does announce Women's tag
36:06
team belt, that they wait until they get their roster back because there's a
36:10
lot of injuries, there's a lot of people out speaking of which, and
36:16
This is something that we have talked about before. I wanted to touch on
36:21
the sad state of the men's tag team division because who are the tag team
36:27
champions right now? I don't even know who cares? Did they Did they
36:34
defend the championships at double or nothing? No, I don't know when exactly,
36:42
haven't yet they haven't, that makes sense. I mean, you've got
36:46
some pretty good I'm a big fan of top Flight, you know, I
36:52
you know, may have been a thing, but now that's been put on
36:57
the House of Black at the Kings of the Black Throne. Those guys are
37:02
good. Yeah, other than you have tr but it's the same people doing
37:08
the same thing over and over again. You only have five people that are
37:13
five tag teams that are just interchanging. Yeah. Well because yeah, unfortunately
37:17
Acclaimed and Bullet Club Gold or Bang Bang Gang now they're both kind of mixed
37:24
up in the Trios division, same with like Gates of Agony, which is
37:29
now Cage of Agony. Unfortunately, that dilutes it because I think if you
37:34
didn't have that, you'd have like ten great tag teams. Yeah, We've
37:40
said it before on this podcast that many of us feel like the Trios Division
37:45
is knocking back the tag team division, and I still it blows my mind
37:54
because I don't know what the fascination with the trios division is when tag team
38:00
divisions have been around since I've been watching wrestling, and they're important and the
38:06
trio's divisions just not. I'm sorry. The novel's a novelty belt, Yeah,
38:13
because it's so freaking crazy, everybody running around. You can't tell who's
38:16
in, who's in, who's in the match, and who's not and it
38:21
and for me, it lacks suspense because tag teams you're always looking for that
38:25
hot tag and and you really don't have that hot tag and that fun of
38:30
the suspense of someone else, the guy who really really really wants in.
38:36
You know, you don't have that because they all seem to be flying everywhere
38:38
and it's just too busy. It's too much of a cluster for me.
38:44
That's why I don't like him. Yeah, I mean, what's if you're
38:50
gonna do the tag teams go all in on the tag teams? Don't don't
38:57
they aw can't do what they've been doing. Tag teams are just have lost.
39:01
The tag team belts have no relevance, and we've got a couple of
39:06
the greatest tag team tag teams in wrestling right now, arguably the Young Bucks
39:12
and FTR, and they're spitting their wheels. Yeah, they're way too much.
39:20
They had a chance at the Tag Team Tournament to put some new people
39:23
in, but they chose to go with the Young Bucks and start this this
39:29
this elite storyline, which oh the bad but yeah you had you know,
39:34
at the time, a private Party was hitting it pretty hard and I thought
39:37
they could have been There are several other tag teams that could have done it,
39:42
but they are they once again stick with the tried and true. I
39:46
don't know if they have it a contract or not. It seems like every
39:49
year or so, every six months or so, the Young Bucks have it,
39:53
and it's it's to a point where they have to start making new,
39:58
fresh tag teams that can be the guys, and I don't see them doing
40:01
that. But I think the problem is that they started with the triple teams,
40:08
the six men tags because it allowed them to get more people into the
40:14
show, and it got to the point where that was what they were doing
40:19
for the most part. But I believe they need to now that they have
40:23
it in a solidified three triple to three man tag. They need to move
40:29
that belt to r OH. Be done with it. Don't bring it back
40:34
to W to the aw main bring it, keep it on H where it
40:37
can be useful. Get back to the tag teams. The Bucks got them
40:43
basically like you said, MK, it's to start the whole thing with the
40:46
EVP, which they needed to do. That was that was how they were
40:51
going to start it, and they'll have them until it stops, probably the
40:58
end of the year, whenever they come to the conclude to that, if
41:00
you know, however long they want this to last. But until they take
41:05
away the the the tag that the trios team belts and put them on ROH
41:10
and get them completely off AWTV, it's always going to be a crutch that
41:15
they fall back on because it allows you to have an extra two guys on
41:19
the show, and unfortunately, with the size of the roster right now,
41:24
sometimes that's what they have to do to get everybody in. Very true.
41:31
Yeah, I just think it's unfortunate because their tag team division Ist has so
41:36
much potential, Like in the Lucha Bros. We didn't even mention them right
41:39
well, you forget about that because they're there's no tag teams. Well,
41:44
you have probably about I'm just going to top off the top of my head,
41:49
you probably have about fifteen solid tag teams in age as boys. Yeah,
41:52
yeah, I mean you have fifteen, at least fifteen seriously very good
41:58
tag teams. It could be bad only for it again, you just don't
42:04
have time. Sometimes you've got you know, the ones you've all mentioned.
42:07
You've got the I don't remember what they called himself now because you're Bear Brouns
42:13
and his brother Iron Savages, you got the Infantry, You've got uh right,
42:22
righteous, I mean, it's yeah, emotions. I mean there's there,
42:30
there's five right there we just mentioned besides the other six or seven you
42:34
mentioned before that. Yeah, I mean, but they're not taking the time
42:38
to do it seriously. Yeah, and to be honest, to be honest,
42:43
the Triple the Triple team should not have taken a place of that because
42:46
it's it's not something that you can't do at the same time, you know
42:51
what I mean, it's not. But you you wrap up all your best
42:54
teams like the ass Boys, the Acclaim, they just get wrapped up in
42:59
this right nonsense, and it's fun. But yeah, I mean, keep
43:05
it on a ring of honor and and make it like a ring of honor
43:07
staple. But yeah, it's it's unfortunate. I mean, you've got you've
43:13
got, you've got all these tag teams that we just mentioned, but there's
43:15
only like four main ones on the rest due to job mm hmm. Well,
43:24
Alex, you know you wanted to talk about, uh the best and
43:30
worst of Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to bring up something that
43:34
I think is maybe controversial and probably get some discussion going. But I was
43:39
thinking long and hard about what I thought was the best match from from Double
43:45
or Nothing. I think it was a good show. It was like an
43:52
eight out of ten. Everything was pretty good. But but we didn't really
43:57
get anything like at Dynasty, the will Osprey Brian Danielson. We didn't get
44:01
a match to me that that was like head over heels, like just blew
44:07
me away. But for me, I think maybe my highlight of Double or
44:15
Nothing was the Mercedes Monet versus Willow Nightingale match. I was really hoping that
44:22
we'd get a match where we could where it felt like the women we're putting
44:29
on a match like the same quality as the men at a pay per view
44:32
like it just felt like a high level match, like super intense, just
44:40
everything I was kind of hoping to see from that match and hoping to see
44:45
from Mercedes. I know she looked a little rusty, especially at the end
44:50
when she was doing her finisher to someone that was probably a little bit too
44:55
much weight for her to get up properly for that. Maybe she needs to
45:00
have a second finish here like will Osprey does with the Hidden Blade. But
45:05
I thought Mercedes Monet looked really good, and I thought this was probably one
45:08
of the best women's matches I can remember seeing in quite some time on AW
45:15
Well, what about do you want to share your worst moment then too?
45:20
Uh? The worst moment for me was probably I just felt a little bit
45:28
disappointed, not really by the anarchy in the arena match, but I just
45:34
was really hoping we had something to end on like a high note, and
45:40
by that I mean like a return of Hangman Adam Page or just something to
45:45
like further that story of the Elite and bring us some excitement on what to
45:51
expect for Dynamite, And we didn't get it. It felt like it kind
45:53
of ended on a lackluster moment, especially when we had like MGF return earlier
46:00
in the night, it felt like the highs were early and then it kind
46:05
of trailed off for me. So that was my low point. Yeah,
46:09
who wants to go next with their best and worse than the night at double
46:14
or nothing. I didn't really have the best of the night. When it
46:17
came to the matches, it just was, like you said, I like
46:21
said, I wouldn't even go with an eight out of set of seven and
46:23
a half because there really wasn't. You know, they build this as being
46:29
the WrestleMania for for a w It's the main first show that got them started.
46:35
It was five year anniversary, and it just didn't feel like that was
46:39
what it was. Everything just sort of it built, built, built,
46:45
built, built, and just kind of slid down. But I kind of
46:50
disagree with the Willow the Willow matches. I think Willow had a great match.
46:52
I just was really disappointed in what mer well, I'm not going to
46:57
say disappointed in Mercedes because it's basically what I expected from her. She wasn't
47:01
that impressive to me. She was extremely slow off the ropes. Damn near
47:07
killed Willow with the fine with her with her finish, I mean that was
47:09
bad could have been bad. Yeah. If if I was gonna have to
47:16
pick one match that I thought was the best match of the night, it
47:20
was the will Osprey match. But even that match was almost too long for
47:25
me. Yeah, and it wasn't as good as his other matches. No,
47:30
and and and you know I don't. I mean, they almost killed
47:36
him in that match. And you know, we we had talked about how
47:39
there's no interference in matches the night before, you know, the lad on
47:45
Thursday, we talked about how that happened in last week, and it seemed
47:50
like every match this week had something, whether it was building the match or
47:52
not. So I was, I was, wasn't even you, You're the
48:00
problem is you were right up to that point. But last then it seemed
48:05
like on Sunday they heard our podcast and way, you know what, we
48:07
don't. Let's see what we can do to change that. So those idiots
48:10
wrong. Yeah, I think I think for me, Dynasty was a much
48:15
better pay per view than this. But MJF, if you would have put
48:20
him at the end or before, if they'd have had that match arrange so
48:24
that he could have came out right before that, it would have made the
48:27
show worth watching all the way to the end, but I just I don't
48:30
know, it just wasn't It just didn't do it for me. Who wants
48:36
to go next? I'll say, Uh, my favorite match had to be
48:43
Copeland and Malachi Black. I like those kinds of matches where they really get
48:52
into it and really fight. I think it's unfortunate that Copeland got hurt,
48:58
but it leaves me to wonder what they're going to do in the House of
49:02
Black. And I had two least favorite things. I hate that Willow lost,
49:14
and I did not like the way anarchy in the arena was because they
49:22
turned the music off and there was so much going on that you couldn't see
49:29
everything that was going on. And I think there was probably a lot of
49:34
good wrestling, a lot of good fighting, and we missed quite a bit
49:38
of it. And I'm getting tired of Darby Allen being a stunt dummy,
49:49
like one of those you know, you know, they're fake in the movies
49:52
and they're just thrown all around. That's what he's starting to remind me of.
49:58
And it's getting a little old. So that's how I yeah that I
50:04
made a comment about Darby Allen. What somebody posted on the aw Found subreddit,
50:09
what the hell are they going to do with Darby Allen? I said,
50:12
we should probably get run over by the aggnlance that they're taking him to
50:15
the hospital in. Probably he'll fall out of the back and go rolling down
50:20
the expressway on the gurney. It is good to be a little bit like
50:30
watching a stuntman instead of a wrestler anymore. Yeah, yeah, so I
50:36
like him as a wrestler. I like what he does, but it's time
50:40
to do something a little bit different. So I think he find needs to
50:45
find something else to do, or someone really good much like himself, that
50:55
he can really have a long going feud with where they kind of try to
51:00
outdo each other. Right, Yeah, it did seem like maybe he was
51:06
wrestling injured well, just like in a weird way. Even though he got
51:13
hit by a bus and he was hung by his feet and all that,
51:16
it did seem like he was not wrestling wrestling. Yeah right, Yeah.
51:23
The blow towards was pretty funny though. He really he kept going. He
51:29
didn't just like light Jack Terry on fire. He kept like trying to keep
51:34
light. I know, I thought that was hysterical. I feel like the
51:39
young Bucks, like, what are you doing? The young books look like
51:45
they couldn't believe what was happening, So who hasn't got yet with their best
51:53
and worst? Besides me, I didn't watch it, so I think you
52:00
okay, well my best and worst? My best was I had to give
52:08
a shout out to the women here. Did I think that the Willow knight
52:14
Gale versus Mercedes Monette was a great match? It was good, it was
52:20
not great. However, I stand by what I said earlier in the month
52:27
that had Julia Hart not got injured not gotten injured, it would have been
52:31
Julia Hart versus Mercedes Money and its match. I do not I still don't
52:36
believe that Willow Nightingale was ever intended to be the champion. Yet, going
52:42
into this match, do you think do you think Julia Heart could have had
52:46
the match that Willow and Mercedes had. I absolutely think that Julia Heart would
52:52
have made Mercedes look better because basically, and I don't want to get into
52:58
this, but Mercedes is a very slight woman and Julia Hart is much bigger
53:02
than than Mercedes Monet. But Willow Nightingale is much bigger than Julia Hart,
53:08
and that is not a slight against Willow Nightingale because she's a beautiful woman.
53:13
But the thing that I'm saying is that having a first match in a year
53:17
against somebody that is so much bigger than you, you can't get leverage,
53:24
you know. I just think that the I think the match was intended to
53:28
be Julia Hart versus Mercedes Monet because I think that they would have been able
53:31
to work better. And I do think there would have been a better match
53:36
because I think Mercedes would have looked better and I think Julia would have had
53:42
more of the uh, she would have been able to take better bumps.
53:50
I'll just say it that way. Now, what I was saying, the
53:54
women you go to Tony storm and Serena deeb I thought that that was the
54:00
best that Tony Stormers looked to me in months, to be honest with you.
54:07
Uh, Serena Dee was having the time of her life out there.
54:09
She was smiling throughout the entire match, I mean, and I just loved
54:14
it for it and she got to be on the big stage for once,
54:19
you know, because she deserves it. And frankly speaking, thunder Rosa and
54:23
Dianna Parozzo, which was in the buy in. I did both of those
54:29
matches for me. I thought that was fantastic match, you know, and
54:36
I think that that deserved to be on the main show. I really do.
54:39
As far as the worst match in the night for me, and I
54:43
would call it the worst match, but the worst, uh most senseless match,
54:49
and that's probably the best thing. Roder Eck Strong versus Well Lostrey by
54:52
a mile. That match should have lasted the ring. The bell should have
54:58
rang. Will Ospbury should have just slapped Roderick Strong across the base. Roderick
55:05
should have felt to the ground one two three when that stupid spot happened where
55:10
frankly, I thought will Ospbury got murdered. I was pissed off, you
55:15
know, and that ruined the entire I didn't want that match to go on.
55:20
That match lasted forever, you know, and it shouldn't have. And
55:25
it was just awful. It was just awful to see. I mean,
55:30
you knew that will Ospbury was going to win the match, you know,
55:32
but it was just one of those things. In my opinion, it didn't
55:37
matter. Roderick Strong had the match of his career and will Osprey had the
55:45
match of his career and together they had the match. Upon matches, I
55:52
still would have been upset at that match because there was no reason to have
55:55
it other than to put the belt on will Osprey. It should taken fifteen
56:00
seconds, put the belt on him and go on. Frankly, the thing
56:05
lasted so long. I stood to talk, stood to listen to Adam Cole
56:10
and MGF talk a little bit. Give them ten minutes each because I just
56:16
did not want to see that match. I'm sorry, stupid batch, but
56:21
they booked it. It was a stupid batch. They should have just handed
56:23
them the belt and said, I don't want to fight you. You're too
56:27
good. Left. That's the way it felt. So let's move on to
56:32
our Dynamite preview. We've already talked about the Forbidden Door to See Gauntlet,
56:39
but let's talk about a couple of things that I think it's pretty interesting.
56:45
Well, first of all, we were just talking about Willow Knight and Galen
56:49
Mercedes Monet. After the match, Chris Statlander finally did the turn with Stokely
56:55
Hathaway. So now Chris Statlander has now been added to the heel part of
57:00
the women's roster that is just growing and growing and growing. So tomorrow night,
57:09
apparently they're going to do a segment where they ask Chris Statlander, why,
57:15
Chris why? What do you think the reason why is going to be
57:24
for the Rock? I just, you know, I think that she's tired
57:30
of living in her shadow. She's tired of not getting chances that she should.
57:37
She should be women's champ h in that race, at least in that
57:42
racket. And I think she's tired of getting disrespected, and it's time for
57:47
her to make a move move. And plus, you know, this makes
57:52
two the best friends who are now hells. So it makes sense to me
58:00
degree she First of all, she doesn't need it. She doesn't need a
58:02
manager or a mouthpiece, So her whole teaming whistorically makes no sense whatsoever.
58:09
Again, there are way too many heels. She's one of your top women
58:15
in division, and she didn't need to turn heel. I just doesn't make
58:19
any sense. If she wants to blame someone for her being where she's at
58:22
and not being somewhere else, it's her own problem self, because she's the
58:27
one that's been friends with these people and puts everybody else before them before herself.
58:31
That's on her. So I just don't see a reason why you do
58:35
that to heels take accountability for their own actions. But that's the problem.
58:44
She's not a heel or she wasn't. Yeah, like we hit that moment
58:49
with she confronted Trent right after Trent turned and then he whispered something to her.
58:55
I'm thinking that he whispered like Willows overshadowing you, exactly like Orange Cassidy's
59:02
overshadowing me. And that's gonna kind of be the reasoning for this. And
59:08
I feel like Stokely has been planning this all along. I think it does
59:15
make sense to me, Like I think Willow is a much better speaker promo
59:21
than Statlander is. She's come some ways, but I don't mind having Stokely
59:28
as someone for her to feed off of and represent her. And he's really
59:31
funny, So I think it makes sense. And I think it could be
59:37
really good for Chris Statlander and put her in like the the main events women's
59:42
scene a little bit more. But yeah, we'll see what happens. What
59:50
about you, Dutt, do you have any pinions on this? Well?
59:57
Here is a thought with Ton talking about intergender belts. Suppose it's Statlander and
1:00:07
Trent being very bad, and they're going to make a tag team where they're
1:00:15
going to harass everyone else. So they do it separately, so they're going
1:00:21
to do it together. And that's what I thought about when Tony was talking
1:00:28
about those belts, was that whispering in her ear, and you know,
1:00:35
both of them kind of turning against everyone that they've cared about better than them
1:00:42
for intergender tag teams. So that's my feeling about it. Only feeling about
1:00:50
it I don't understand. So Alex, I've been introduced the next segment.
1:00:54
I'll let you take the last two if that's okay with you, Yes,
1:00:58
because I want to talk about That's favorite painting, the don Callis supper painting
1:01:05
and Tomorrow Night, Don Kallas has announced that he's going to offer someone a
1:01:08
contract, du duh exactly. So here is my thoughts on that that's someone's
1:01:19
gonna be Trumperetta, not Orange Cassidy. There's gonna be a big portrayal,
1:01:23
and I think Tomorrow Night you're going to see Trumperetta and Chris Statlander, who
1:01:32
will betray Stokely Hathoray joined the don Kallis family. Maybe not Tomorrow Night with
1:01:42
Chris Statlander. But I think eventually, really soon, like by Forbidden Door,
1:01:46
we're going to see Chris Statlander and the Callous family just want to get
1:01:51
everybody. What do you think about that? I mean, do you think
1:01:55
that is there? Is the contract going to be offered to Orange Cassidy?
1:02:00
Why would Don Callous say he's offering the contract to someone and not I'm more
1:02:05
offering a contract to Orange Cassidy if he was or if he was off forget
1:02:08
the Worts cast. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, sudden because Don Kellis
1:02:19
isn't an idiot and wants to mess with everybody. Uh, he knows what.
1:02:23
He knows how to keep the he knows how to keep it something to
1:02:29
talk about and yeah, and that's what he's doing. He made it seem
1:02:35
like he's going to back Orange. I totally agree that he's gonna take Trent.
1:02:42
I don't know, it's it's gonna be interesting. Is there going to
1:02:45
be a beatdown of Orange Cassidy? Probably? But is it going to just
1:02:52
be the addition of people tomorrow night or is it going to be the new
1:02:57
look Callus family. Do you think we may get somebody subtracted tomorrow night.
1:03:05
I'm thinking that I'm thinking that the United Empire finally gets away and leaves Callous
1:03:12
tomorrow night. Maybe maybe it's time for him to do it. Anyway,
1:03:17
I think Forbidden Doors the perfect time because then you have New Japan guys coming
1:03:23
in. They can support will Osprey, possibly Kyle Fletcher and set up a
1:03:29
match versus the don Kallis family. Isn't there more of the he's in a
1:03:37
certain group, and then the group that Sabers in and some others are in
1:03:43
that are kind of with uh in tmd K. That's also a European group,
1:03:54
but it's completely different than United Empire. Yeah, that's all. See
1:04:00
Open and Ospray are the only three that are in that I believe. But
1:04:03
in New Japan, there's Jeff Cobb, there's TJ. Perkins, there's Caleb
1:04:11
Newman and Francesco Akira, and there may be even some other guys. Oh
1:04:15
great, o'con. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of guys that could come
1:04:19
over. Could you imagine getting all those guys and actually using that faction,
1:04:24
because see, that's one of the things I brought up before a while ago.
1:04:28
He has Tony has an issue with keeping factions that are not just in
1:04:33
aew together. He doesn't always like use them to the full potential that they
1:04:42
have. Mm hmm. I mean he did it with the with actually the
1:04:49
best friends, and those guys are all part of Okada's Actually they are part
1:04:55
of Akarda's faction that they had in New Japan. Yeah, yeah, so
1:05:01
they were all part of Chaos. And they actually talked about being part of
1:05:05
Chaos when there was sometime last year around Forbidden Door, but that's the only
1:05:14
time they ever really mentioned it. When they had god I can't think of
1:05:16
his name, Bulldog, what's his name? Yeah, when is she came
1:05:21
over and teamed up with them, they talked about Chaos, but it was
1:05:26
like for one match and that was it, and you don't really mention it
1:05:29
after that. So maybe there will be a yeah that's when Cassidy and Trent
1:05:34
became honorary members or something like that. Yeah, of chaos. I'm just
1:05:40
speaking of Orange cast I don't. I just hate to see I don't.
1:05:45
I feel like Cassidy is in the most need of a refresh out of anybody
1:05:50
in that group, and I think him being with Callous Callous would help him
1:05:55
immensely, because you know, he's at a point where he's been baby based,
1:05:59
so that, you know, just another betrayal would be great. It's
1:06:05
kind of like when Steing got betrayed all the times and stuff. He would
1:06:10
always bounce back, but at some point you need to change the Cassidy gimmick.
1:06:15
I just, in my opinion, I think don Kallas can work a
1:06:19
lot better off of him and make him not necessarily heal, but give him
1:06:24
a darker age. Yeah. I think it's interesting. I would like to
1:06:32
see Orange Cassidy be a heel, but I just don't see them actually doing
1:06:39
it. I'm imagining, you know, Orange Cassidy. Maybe he's offered the
1:06:44
contract, he turns it down, he gets beat down, and it leads
1:06:47
to some other development with the Don Kyle's family, whether it's Trench joining or
1:06:54
will Osprey stopping the other members from beating up Orange Cassidy. Uh. But
1:07:00
yeah, I just it'd be cool, But I just cannot picture him actually
1:07:04
being in the don Kallis family. M Alex, Yeah, I guess.
1:07:16
So if no one has anything else to say about the painting and the don
1:07:20
Kallis family and what what tomorrow will hold, I guess we can move on,
1:07:27
to the debut of TV Time. I don't even know what that means
1:07:31
with the Learning Tree Chris Jericho. I think it means when he comes on,
1:07:35
you're supposed to change a channel and see what's on TV. No no,
1:07:41
no, no, no, no no. This has been long overdue.
1:07:45
Jericho always has a television talk show wherever he has been, and it's
1:07:50
about time, it's TV Time. He's like a skinna. He'll do something
1:08:02
like he used to do with the he he'd have. He'll come out and
1:08:05
he'll come out and he may have, uh some chairs in the ring or
1:08:10
whatever, and I don't I don't. You know it's gonna be something different,
1:08:12
because they're always different. Yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting.
1:08:18
It'll be a little five minute talk session that ends up with him possibly
1:08:25
putting someone's head through something or getting power bombed or whatever. But it'll be
1:08:30
fun to the head. Uh uh yeah. I would love that. He's
1:08:36
always done good good talk talk segments. You know. I just love this
1:08:43
gimmick. I think people are slowly starting to see it finally been berating him
1:08:50
forever. I know some people in this group still bit and get it,
1:08:54
but uh yeah, I just enjoyed Jericho right now. He's he's eating it
1:09:00
up and leaning on a hard Yeah, it's delightful. I wonder if he's
1:09:09
gonna use this time to to do lessons or something, you know, Is
1:09:15
he gonna bring out different guys and try to teach them, because now he's
1:09:19
with Brian Keith as well as the big Big Bill. Does he come out
1:09:26
and try to teach them about how to win matches? Their little tips and
1:09:30
tricks, I don't know, be interesting the pomps and uh he gets them
1:09:40
all to like sit around him like it's like a kindergarten class. Yeah.
1:09:44
I mean up until he started doing this uhree thing, I was totally into
1:09:49
the Chris jerk oh Marmie character. As soon as he started with the Larning
1:09:56
three totally, I totally lost interest in it. And and this is literally
1:10:01
going to be the time where I will probably switch over and see what's going
1:10:05
on in hockey. So yeah, this is not going to be a ratings
1:10:12
winner for me on my part. Well, hopefully you're not a Nielsen family
1:10:18
and your own impact anything you I am. That is why I always turn
1:10:24
off Eddie Kingston because I don't want to go back ass ready. I don't
1:10:30
know if you're led the publicly disclosed that you are. You can't, Yes,
1:10:33
you can't, Okay, I am in my household is a niece Nielsen
1:10:38
household, and we turn the channel when something's on that we don't want to
1:10:44
so, hey, you know, thank god, I'm not in the eighteen
1:10:47
to forty nine demographic. The key demographic is not me. You have the
1:10:53
power. I'm twelve zero. I guess we have. We have one last
1:11:06
match to talk about. It's w'erv Strickland versus the Dragon, and by Dragon
1:11:14
I mean Bill Switch formerly Lucasaurus in a House of the Dragon match. I
1:11:17
don't know if this is a championship eliminator match, a title match. I
1:11:21
am assuming just nothing match. It's a grudge match, okay, uh yeah.
1:11:31
It's a little interesting because does this mean that we're continuing some form of
1:11:35
swerve versus the patriarchy, maybe just to tide things over until forbidden door.
1:11:43
I wonder which punish meant from the elite the e VPS for winning and beating
1:11:49
them, but they're gonna yet again send uh another guy after just this show.
1:12:00
But when you get involved in the matches, you know, I think
1:12:01
this is more of a retribution for for Swore to go after people who are
1:12:06
within the patriarchy because he's he's fought everybody except Mama Wayane so far, so
1:12:14
might as well. I would like to see that match sort versus Mama Wayne,
1:12:25
if we're talking inter gender matches. He's pretty big. He's probably got
1:12:29
a few inches on s. Yeah, I think this should be an interesting
1:12:33
match. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I mean, I'm not
1:12:38
looking for I can't call him kill Switch. I'm not looking for Lucasaurus to
1:12:43
win this match, but it should be a fairly entertaining match, especially if
1:12:49
they have Christian and Nick Wayne and Mama Wayne and stairs and all kinds of
1:12:58
stuff out there. Low blow glore. Yeah, you know, hockey sticks
1:13:08
get hit by a Kia, spiky shoes up dragon the forums. So you
1:13:15
gotta gotta do some advertising. So just have where we get run over by
1:13:20
a Kia just before it hits where Darby Allen will dive in front of the
1:13:27
car so he gets hit first. Have a zamboni in there too, run
1:13:33
into the sand and get hit. That's what Samyabar is known for, getting
1:13:39
hit by vehicles. Oh yeah. Yeah. Jeez, well, does anybody
1:13:47
have like kill switch in this match when he's in the match, But is
1:13:56
he gonna win it? I don't know, maybe we can call it Brene
1:13:59
ask him, Yeah, kill Switch is gonna win because he has to win
1:14:08
because it's his time and it's not for the title, So give him a
1:14:13
chance. Oh God, kilosaurs kill Asaurus or to switch to switch? Okay,
1:14:29
just a good weird The one question that we did not bring up that
1:14:34
they kind of left in the air after the show on Sunday was where did
1:14:39
the EVPs go from here? Oh that's a good question. I mean they
1:14:45
didn't. They won, They did what they wanted to do, but then
1:14:49
they just kind of left it with no clear path ahead. Yeah. It's
1:14:57
interesting because, like, really the one person that they've been feuding with outside
1:15:02
of FTR and Danielson has kind of been Swerve. It's hard to see how
1:15:10
that lines up with Forbidden Door coming. But maybe maybe that opens the path
1:15:15
for ye like a Gabe kid to be directed by the Elite to kill Swear
1:15:21
and take him out. Yeah that's a good idea. I mean I can
1:15:26
see m JF getting involved because he you know, he got that brand new
1:15:30
tattoo, and he said, he's uh all in for a W and he's
1:15:35
he's the face just alongside Swore, you know, swerve offspray and then together.
1:15:43
I really think all the face of the a W and m j F
1:15:47
and Swerve together would be a pretty cool combination. I think, how about
1:15:54
that. The thing is that that tattoo was gorgeous, not to Keshta gorgeous,
1:15:58
but gorgeous. I think Secsta Gordon the day to Kestia's birthday is it.
1:16:08
I think it is. I hope somebody sent up a Citabon. Oh
1:16:15
man, Well, I don't think he got kicked out. It's just that,
1:16:25
you know, he ate it way too much. I mean, when
1:16:27
he came to America full time, it was like he looked out his Twitter
1:16:30
and it was like nobody, no winners of Citabon and Seattle were wherever town
1:16:34
that they were in. It was hysterical. It's all he wanted was Citabon.
1:16:40
When he turned heels, Cinnabon banned him, remember, and they put
1:16:45
his picture up in the windows. Press passed wow. Yeah, yeah,
1:16:54
so he's he's banned from Cinnabon's I could see that as a bit on being
1:17:02
the elite. Oh my god, started him in the car outside of the
1:17:08
local cente boss and the someone in to get him something and bring it out
1:17:13
the window. Do we need to get exposure? We need MG have to
1:17:17
be the host of Saturday Night Saturday Night Live. You would be great,
1:17:24
Yeah, censored show. What's what's musical guests? Will Osprey? Yeah?
1:17:33
Uh, what's the playing the recorder? There you go, what's the what's
1:17:40
the name of oh ship but the Blades or Butcher's band? That could be
1:17:46
musical guests there you go? Or Brodie or something like that. Or they
1:17:53
could combine Bertie King, Bertie King's, the Butchers and Jericho's put them all
1:17:59
together and make a It'll be uh with the learning turn and call himself.
1:18:14
There you go. Well, well, anyway, that's gonna be the show.
1:18:20
That's ignition for tonight. We'll be back tomorrow night. With all the
1:18:25
talk. I have a feeling we gonna have a lot to talk about tomorrow
1:18:28
night, and I think it's gonna be a pretty fun show. Regardless of
1:18:32
what Chris Jericho tries to say. That'll be the highlight. Why is that?
1:18:40
Why you know? I'm just looking forward to see if there's somebody new
1:18:45
one painting. It's gonna be something. And Alex we may get to see
1:18:53
at Sarah tomorrow night too. Yeah, that would be awesome. Oh god,
1:18:57
we'll just talk about that for an hour to Yeah, we'll talk about
1:19:00
that. You know, that'll be moist anyway. Anyway, thanks for listening,
1:19:12
guys, Thanks to the podcast team. Uh this is Kelson, I
1:19:17
have a voice. Night. Goodbye, everybody in that yo