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Pre-Investigation packet - Bellaire House(Audio) · Trapped Souls Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: This is Ryan from Trap Souls.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm here with April from Savage Energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're here today.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're doing a little podcast on our big trip coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have five places we're going.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to Madison, Post Town Elementary, Old House Mount College Hill, Bel Air House, Ross House.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're doing five and five nights.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows about that because I talk about it all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Savage is going to join us at Bel Air House.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're going to start with a little pre-investigation packet that I made up.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's going to read it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just talk a little bit about it and go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_01: So located by the Ohio, Ohio River in Bel Air, Ohio.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I can't talk today.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a very long day.
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  SPEAKER_01: The infamous Bel Air House was built by Jacob Heatherington in 1847.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jacob built a very successful coal mining operation in Bel Air, which made his family very wealthy.
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  SPEAKER_01: But wealth always comes with a price.
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  SPEAKER_01: The house not only has a dark past but a dark present.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is said to be haunted in connection to the 1893 coal mining explosion that claimed 42 lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: The house sits atop coal mine number one where the disaster occurred.
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  SPEAKER_01: That explains a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: The house was also built near Sacred Shawnee Native American burial caves.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is also said to hold energy because of the connection to the land which included the French and Indian Wars and was once the site of Native American rituals.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: There are many factors that might take might make the Belair House a paranormal hotspot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Majority of the stories come from the land surrounding the house in Belair, Ohio.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the house itself has had its fair share of history.
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  SPEAKER_01: Succeeding Jacob in his business was one of his sons, Alexander.
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  SPEAKER_01: He ran the business and lived in the house until December 1887 when he was ordered to Athens Asylum for the Insane.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: Alexander's daughter, is it Lyde?
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  SPEAKER_01: Lida, Lida, I don't know, took over the business and lived in the house until she passed in 1947.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: She passed in the house, allegedly in the first floor room, which is now known as the Seance Room.
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  SPEAKER_01: Story has it that her brother Edwin became obsessed with contacting her in the afterlife.
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  SPEAKER_01: He studied the occult and tried to make contact with his sister.
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  SPEAKER_01: He brought in psychics from all over the country to help him make contact.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is how the room got the name the Seance Room.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's also a story of a boy who was born in the house by a servant named Mary, was said to be lured into the attic and pushed out a window.
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  SPEAKER_01: The boy's bloodline was crucial in strengthening an entity that lives there.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oops.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, this supposedly repeated itself with another boy.
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  SPEAKER_01: The story cannot be confirmed, but there was a few of Mary's there was a few Marys who were servants at the Bel Air House.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Belair House was part of the Underground Railroad hiding runaway slaves.
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  SPEAKER_01: While some of these stories are connected and not directly connected to the house itself, many believe it is a combination of ley lines, the energy from the Ohio River and the constellations above that make Belair House haunted.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: I totally think the ley lines in the Ohio River.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: From what I believe, the most interest interesting story is from the current owner, Kristen Lee.
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  SPEAKER_01: She took ownership of the Bel Air House in 2005 when it was soon after she moved.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh sorry, it was soon after she moved when the ghostly encounters began.
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  SPEAKER_01: From what she stated, it started to progress like a horror movie.
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  SPEAKER_01: She started hearing footsteps in the attic, waking up to what many call the gray man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Known to be seen in many locations, but it was when her and her dog got physically attacked, is when she decided enough is enough and moved out.
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  SPEAKER_01: After that, she decided to use the house as a rental and the hauntings did not stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: One tenant stated that a chandelier fell and barely missed their head.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now Belair is rented out for paranormal enthusiasts for private overnight investigations.
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  SPEAKER_01: There have been many claims from paranormal teams that have stayed the night at the house.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some did not make it through the night, and some state they will never go back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Phantom footsteps could be heard coming from the attic, obviously the gray man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shadow figures all over the house, even on the front porch.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you have ever been there, there's no way a shadow can be cast from the street to the front porch.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: The last time we were there, two from my team saw a shadow on the porch.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Not my team, his team.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: They both saw this shadow peek its dark head around a curtain into the living room.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: The only problem with that is the window is solid glass.
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  SPEAKER_01: Shadow figure on the second floor landing peeking down at you while you were in the living room.
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  SPEAKER_01: And dark entity in the attic that may or may not try to lure you to the window and throw you out.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: The seance room, it is stated, he created many portals when trying to reach his dead sister.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mimic, yes, I believe there is a mimic at the house.
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  SPEAKER_01: Does it reside there?
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  SPEAKER_01: We will find out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now the basement, it's dark.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not just in the physical aspect, but in the spiritual aspect.
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  SPEAKER_01: The basement is not for the faint of heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not saying something demonic is down there, but something or someone is not right.
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  SPEAKER_01: From our experiences, growls, shadow figures, EVPs, to start.
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  SPEAKER_01: One person got scratched and another got knocked out.
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  SPEAKER_01: We will find out what the Bel Air House has in store for us this year.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: Last night did not disappoint.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: Last year.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Last year yeah, disappoint.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: So what sticks out the most out of that whole package?
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's a lot.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I for me the Seance room is intriguing because that in itself probably caused a whole host of problems.
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  SPEAKER_00: You bring a lot of stuff in.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: He probably who knows who or what he pulled into that house just from opening portals or whatever you want to call them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they uh at first, you know, when we started investigating Bel Air, looking into it, there's seven portals, but now people are saying like more like 12, 16, so I mean, can I mean you're more into that stuff than I am.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: If you have like a few portals, can other portals open up without someone else triggering one?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the problem is there's been so many people in there doing investigations that if there's already portals open and people that go in there have abilities, they can open more just like that.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: And most people don't know how to shut them.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where you get it.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people that claim they can shut portals, but it's not as easy as they make it seem.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's easy to say I shut that portal, then we're got the door.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: Who's gonna say no you didn't, or yes you did?
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we closed it, don't worry.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: But I think that is that's what sticks out the most.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, besides the basement.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I want to see the basement.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: The thing about Bel Air, like I've done packets for the other places we're going to, and it's you have your stories and you have your history.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bel Air has so much.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Ross House is right down the street, but nothing like Bel Air.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I think I would think, anyways, with the whole coal mine disaster, um the wars, just the fact that it was Native American land in itself.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: You got the caves, you got the burial grounds.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: You've got that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then it was an asylum.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you have all of these historic things that have happened there, and then you add the asylum on top of it.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, actually it was an asylum.
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  SPEAKER_00: He got sent to the asylum.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he got sent to the asylum.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: He should have, I mean, kind of was an asylum.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: His house was a little bit.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he lived in it, yeah, when he was doing all of his things, but all of that alone is enough to make it like a vortex.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's pretty.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a basement is dark.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is it's different.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Now we can go there, it could be nothing down there.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: It is, but a lot of people, again, don't want to go back.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people have experiences in the basement.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll find out.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Reed's gonna do a solo before anybody goes in the place.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna do like a 40-minute solo, which I don't know if he's really gonna get much, because during solos you're moving around so much.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get most when you're just sitting still.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll just send him to the basement for a half hour.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I like to do if I'm going alone.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I usually like to pick a spot and sit.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we do that everywhere.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, out of my group, I'm pretty much the only one that does solos.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't recommend doing solos in a basement there.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you're trying to find some answers.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're just doing it for fun, yeah, don't go with somebody.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not really safe, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
• 10:25
  unknown: Yeah.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we talked about baseball.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about basements real quick, because we did a hunter's tavern and they didn't let us go in a basement because it's kinda old and they'd never really been down there and they didn't want anybody get hurt, which I understand, but the owner's Patty just she was she's never been down there.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: She looks down there and she gets freaked out.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I I'm a big believer because I've done a lot of investigations with basements that usually a darker entity is in a basement.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I said that like someone needs to go down there and say, Hey, this is your spot, you stay.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're doing investigations on the first floor, second floor.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: This entity would be like, You need talking to me, I'm coming up.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, do you believe that's like something that Oh, most definitely.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: I do think that they kind of like to keep that as their little their space.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're not giving them what they want, they definitely will come up and look for you.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um I know there's been a couple of places that I've been where there's darker ones in the basements, and yeah, if you ignore them and you don't give them what they want and they can't feed on your energy, they will find you.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Find you.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: Then once they're once they're up, they know they come up.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna stay up.
• 11:43
  unknown: Yeah.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, coal mines, talk about Bellaria and coal mines, huge explosions.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, coal mine number one is right on the property.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Kill what, 42 people.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: So that alone, you figure out of those 42, I'm sure some of them have already moved on.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm sure not only are there some that are stuck there for whatever reason, you've got all the residual energy from that.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then if there are darker entities there, they've probably got some of those those souls and who knows how many others trapped there.
• 12:20
  unknown: Yeah.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And they can't leave.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I think back in the day when like a coma explosion, whatever, a disaster happened, like they're forgotten.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe they're sticking around because they're angry, because like they're forgotten too.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of them, like even with old time train desert disasters and when they were laying the tracks, if somebody died while they were doing that, you just kind of left them and keep going.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like today where there's a search and rescue to find 'em.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, search rescue and OSHA and everything else.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: So if they if they died in the mine and they couldn't get to them, they were just left.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they one place we do want to go is Brushy Mountain.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: And they talked about that as the prisoners actually worked in the coal mines up there, and there was a collapse.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was like 13 or 14.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: And they're they were prisoners, you know.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you think they did?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: They just left them.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: They just went to the right.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they just left them.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were prisoners, they committed a crime, but that's not right.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: They still deserve respect.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: Family needs closure.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Now, had they been alive and done some something stupid after this, no, but and they died.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: They still deserve their respect.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we'll hit okay, say Antroom.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: That is the safe space in Bellair.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's where we set up our equipment.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how safe it is.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: We really didn't get much there, but the lights were always on.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: We did some stuff in there, but we'll have to when you come down, we'll have to hit that pretty hard.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want to just feel the energy in that room and kind of see how many how many portals it really feels like there might be.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because even even with portals, it doesn't mean that there's activity coming through them at all times.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be interesting to see.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, supposedly they go straight up and down.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, there's yeah, the basement, second floor.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Second floor was I think there's four bedrooms up there.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't bad.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: It felt calming up there until I reviewed the audio.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then some stuff came over.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: We had names coming over, EVP, we had a lot of stuff coming over, so now that we know that, you know, try to hit second floor.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there'll be four, six, seven, or eight of us.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: We'll have plenty of time to hit all these.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: The gray man, I want to figure that one out too, because that could be so many different things.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like gray man, hat man, I mean they're all over.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I mean, the hat man kind of seems like to stand off.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: For the most part, he he doesn't really like physically interact at all.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: I've come across him quite a few times.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Grey man seems to be more more aggressive.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, more aggressive to me.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, for what I've researched and seen.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: I've never actually seen the gray man.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hat man I've seen him numerous times.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: I've dealt with him, but I've never actually seen gray man.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, gray man could be the mimic, I don't know.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I don't know.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: There is a mimic there, I tell you that much.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Those seem to be everywhere now though.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's like a common thing.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: We have one at my work.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: We constantly hear and see people when we're looking for one of our team members.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're at the other end of the hospital, but we just saw them and heard them over here.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Those ones they don't really yeah, they don't really entertain me much, but they're fun to play with on occasion.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Don't play with mimics.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're not supposed to do most of the things I do, but um that's how you find answers too.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it is.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna go there all scared and run out, and there's no there's no point in even going.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, let's talk about ley lines.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: What is your definition of a ley line?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a definition.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think they are?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: To me, I think they're just like in uh magnetic fields for lack of a better way to describe it.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: To me, in my head, I picture them kind of like a fault line but magnetic energy.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I mean I think it was like 1972 when someone came up with A lines, a professor.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's two historical places that connect in a straight line.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it could be the pyramids and something else.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're like, well, because it connects in a straight line.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: You can put A and B anywhere, it's gonna connect in a straight line.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, and it's kind of like a highway, energy highway.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to me, you just can connect anything.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's far-fetched to me.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: You can, but I don't think all of them do the same thing that others do.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of it depends on what you're connecting.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: If you're connecting, we'll just use the Bel Air House as an example, with all of this energy with another.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know what else is around there, but let's just use the Ross House because they're right there.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're connecting both of these with ley lines, it's just like a freeway going back and forth between the two of energy.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: But the ley lines do not stop like Ross House or Right, they keep going, keep going, so it could be you know like the Aztec temple and something else, and it goes through that.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: So if you look at a map, there's yeah, there's it's zigzagged everywhere.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like NJ Highway.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, someone at work was asking about it.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, kind of picture like finding Nemo.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: When they jump on the turtles, yeah.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Go.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: The current.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: And it's kind of like spirit wants to move, jumps in, goes, jumps off like a train.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't have any proof or any hard evidence, but to me it makes sense with the way energy flows.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're gonna get more energy out of the Ohio River than the late line.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Most definitely, yeah.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: So and how many deaths happen in the Ohio River to a state that happens all the time.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Between the spirits that are in the Ohio River, plus you've got all the energy coming from the constantly flowing water, that's gonna be huge.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Ross House, like we talked about Ross House before, we won't get into that much, but you know, a lot of people stated that they might be connected.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't find that.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're connected other any by anything other than where they are.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think mainly because it's in a different part of town.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can tell, like Bellar House, you look back, the mountains are there, the caves are there from the Native Americans are cut that out.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Native Americans.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I think the only thing that they have in common is the coal mine disasters that happen around there.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: And there are people that say that they have picked up spirits from the Belair House at the Ross House.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: But if you look at if you believe in the ley lines, that could simply be why.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: They see a l they see.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: My my best example is when you're doing an investigation, you're sending off like a light going, Hey, I'm over here, communicate with me.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So they see that and they're like, Oh, I'm gonna hop over there because there's nothing going on here.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's we talked about that at Ross House too.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like nothing really happened in the Ross house.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think the one owner did pass away in there, but that was it.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the wife did too.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: But nothing else.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: But we were getting stuff from all over the area because you're investigating it.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna draw spirits then, be like, I want my story out too.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: So that's we got like the coal miners, the blue K, you know, nothing to deal with the house itself.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Just beards that wanted to talk.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: So are you excited about Bel Air?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I am so excited.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: We are counting down days.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be quick.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's yeah, it's gonna be here quick.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be it is.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're we have so much going on between now and then, it'll be here before we even know it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I did I'm doing Bill Mayer next month with my brother.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: You'll have to stay tuned for that because it could be comical.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um He's never done anything like this, and he's scared.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's kind of like Sarah.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's fun though.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: That makes it fun when you go in with them.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be fun.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's always wanted to do it, so I figure it's a good time for him to jump on the paranormal bandwagon and see what happens there.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get we didn't get a whole heck of a lot.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: We got like kids playing and a couple other things.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, back in the day, Ross House, but now it's getting more.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder if City brought something into the antique store that might be.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: That very well could be.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: But we'll find out after about.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing four and four nights, then I was trying to book Madison and there was nothing open ever.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like the weekends are booked till like August.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, well, we'll just do it on that Monday before we leave.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I broke that news to the team that some were too happy about.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, hey, we got the rock, so it doesn't matter.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: You are protected.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: But Madison should be fun.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's just gonna be a few of us there.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Lake Erie Shadow Hunters.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's a small group.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: I actually want a co-worker and his son just do it.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: And they've only done like flashlight tours and they've been to cemeteries and stuff.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, well, I rent out Madison myself, so why don't you come and yeah, that'll be fun.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um Pescade that then they're gonna go to post town with us.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: So they'll be next on the podcast.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um got a little packet for that.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Post town is gonna be interesting.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um a lot of stories come out of there, but not a lot of stories to lead up to that.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um Craig will be doing a solo there.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh boy.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: So all of our solos are before anybody goes in.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm getting Craig a video camera and he's going in 40 minutes.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm doing old hospital on college.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, Craig gets touched or something at least this time.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um Aaron talked about doing Bel Air, but Reed's never really had an experience, so I decided to send Reed in.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Then Ross' house, I think I'm gonna send Aaron in.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: So there you go.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Sarah's coming down for Bel Air.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be great.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: You want to see someone run out of a house real quick.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the porch is like five feet off the ground, so I might have to set a camera up for that so you find Sarah again.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: We always have a first aid kit in our bags, so we're good.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: We got lots of hospital supplies.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we'll we'll wrap up L Air real quick.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: What's the one thing that you're like you you want to hit the basement, obviously.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: You want to do that solo or you wanna go down with Kelsey or any one of us will go down.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get a feel of it first.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Probably I don't mind going down solo, but I don't know if I would do a whole 40 minutes.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: It depends on what happens when I get down there.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: But yes.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean 40 minutes is our first.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're down there for 10 minutes, you don't feel right, get out of there.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, I would totally do a solo down there, kind of just have Kelsey like on the landing up above the basement just in case, but yeah.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would like to do like first floor basement, second floor attic, four of us all do solos.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Then, you know, that one in the attic is kind of seems dark.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was I I was tossing that around too, because we didn't get much up there last time we were there, but it was 140 degrees up there, so we're sweating mostly.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, just from reading that, I don't know if it's kind of like something dark, or is it maybe just something that or somebody who just doesn't like kids.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Kinda sounds like what was it?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: The one that went to sale asylum.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: I was wondering if it was maybe just him because he just Crazy?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't want to say that it's not politically correct, but yes.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Clinically insane.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's the right word either, but 'cause that seems like something that someone like that would do.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: So what about I mean, we'll have to think about this.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: One person doing Estes in a basement.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Or vice versa, one person addict using cell phones to ask questions.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: That would be good.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would be cool.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I really don't want to blindfold anybody in a basement solo.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not solo.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: But maybe two people down there and someone upstairs solo asking questions through.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: That would be good.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Then we can reverse it and see what happens.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: That would be awesome.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll do that.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: That'll be interesting little uh experiment.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: I've always wanted to get both Ross and Bel Air at the same night.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: And do an Estes at Bel Air with someone at Ross asking the questions.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: That would be fun.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: When you're doing Ross, are you doing the antique store and I don't know, I gotta message her still.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: So that would be kind of interesting too to do the Estes with somebody in the store and somebody in the house.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because she said we can get it last time, we just have to call ahead.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: But then everybody I'm seeing is not doing the antique store.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't do it.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if she's that's still open, but I'm gonna message her because we're gonna have their bringing like six from like paranormal.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: So there's gonna be a lot of us.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that house isn't that big.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean hopefully it's nice out where we can chill out outside.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um We had a lot of stuff when we were outside on the porch.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: We had a bang out there, like someone smacked a window in the attic.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know how to get up to the attic.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, you can't.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's c it's in one of the rooms, but it's boarded off.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um the one room has like a bookshelf we can open up.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, we were we were leaving actually, and it's not like someone just smacked that window.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: All of us looked up, it's kind of cool, but that's the most excitement we got the whole night.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: We had somebody we couldn't get definitive features, but we had somebody that we would see in the door that was standing on the stairs watching us every time we would be outside.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: And as soon as somebody would look, it would take off.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: Chase them.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Chase them.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we tried, but we couldn't figure out where you went.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: It would just poof, gone.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: There lately there's been a lot of uh activity in the basement at Ross' house, it seems like so.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Again, solo in the basement.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: I already did one in the basement, so we'll send someone else down there.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'll do too.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they'll remember me.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: So well that's gonna wrap up Bel Air House.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm excited for it.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: It should be.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're at Kelsey, Parsaver Energy in April there.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be, I don't want to say epic, but it'll be a good investigation.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: We should get a lot of stuff.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you'll have to stay tuned.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Follow Trap Souls on YouTube, all the videos, everything, recordings.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'll get, I mean, you're gonna have to bear with me.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: I got five days straight that we're gonna be doing.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna have a lot of recordings.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be doing some TikTok lives.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you guys will be doing some TikTok lives.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: TikTok and Facebook, and um, we'll be doing podcasts and RV in between places.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do podcasts at the place, so I might be podcasts out.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would say so.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be like unconscious for a few days, months probably.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, not months.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: You have a lot of evidence to go through.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I thank you for listening to Trap Souls.
• 28:54
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• 29:03
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• 29:05
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• 29:10
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• 29:15
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• 29:19
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