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Drugs in Prison · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Hello, this is a prepaid call from Branda and make it the Virginian Department
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  of Corrections read Onion State Prison to accept this call. Press zero. This
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  is Randall Vaughan. I'm currently serving on two and fourteen years in Wallace Ridge
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  State Prison in big Stone Gap, Virginia. This is my podcast. We're
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  at Onnie Randy now. I hope you enjoyed listening to me today. A
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  lady named Juliette wrote in and was asking questions about drugs in prison, So
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  that's going to be today's topic. Though I do have to be careful all
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  one. I'm not a snitch, so I'm only going to give partial information
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  simply because I don't snitch. No. Personally, I don't like drug I
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  just don't don't like what they do. I don't like how much they destroyed.
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  I don't like how they change people. And if you don't think drugs
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  change people, you're dead ass wrong. I grew up around drug users.
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  That's one of the reasons why my dad was so damn violent, because he
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  was constantly getting high, he was constantly getting drunk, he was constantly altering
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  his mind, and me and my brother's paid the price for that. And
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  I'm still dealing with the after effects of his using that. It's one of
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  the main reasons why I was as violent as I was for so many years
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  of my life. Drugs. Drugs played a huge part in prison, you
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  know, as I've said numerous times and numerous podcasts, prison is an emotional
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  pressure cooker. We feel things in here twenty thirty times more and then what
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  y'all feel on the street. You know, I had a buddy of mine
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  a few months back. I was talking to him on the phone, my
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  buddy Josh from Philly. Good boy. I really liked this cat. So
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  we was talking one day and he was hanging with his boys, and you
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  know, they were tossing back a few shots, just not getting drunk,
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  but just having a good time. And him and his boys they like to
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  talk, you know, they talk a little trash, so on and so
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  forth. So we was talking and he wind up calling me a bitch,
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  and I immediately got quiet, and he apologized to me, like he realized
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  intently what he did. He realized that he disrespected me, and he's like,
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  nah, dude, I'm so sorry man. And he explained himself,
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  Man, this is how people talk on the street, and he's like when
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  he asked me, dude, what would have happened if we would have been
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  on the street and I had called you got Honestly, you'd probably be looking
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  up for me, laying on the ground record like I got to knock your
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  ass out, because in prison, you can't call someone a bit like that.
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  Just can't do that, even jokingly. You can't do that. Even
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  if two homeboys like two brothers like, oh man, a little bitch bro
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  like, and if you don't fight like, everybody's gonna look at you different.
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  It doesn't matter your relationship with the circumstance like. That's the kind of
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  stuff we deal with in here. And because of that, so many dudes
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  can't handle it. They can't handle it, they don't know how to deal
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  with it. So they make wine, they get drugs, They constantly get
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  in high because they want to escape. And it's big, big business in
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  here. It does every compound I've ever gone to. I'm not there three
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  four hours and dudes pull up on me, yo, man, yo,
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  brother, you get high? Nah man, I'm good man. You show
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  them like, no, bro, I got some good shit. But I'm
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  telling you mind like, nah, bro, I don't get out of it.
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  I'm a Christian, you know, as soon as I tell them,
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  you know, I follow Jesus and everything like that, shut that down right
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  down and there. But it's so prevalent in here now. And there's a
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  couple of ways guys get drugs in prison. Now, actually there's a lot
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  of ways. But I'm only going to tell the kind of two that everybody
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  knows about because the United Now I'm not snitching on this one. There are
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  some different ways that guys can Let's just say they're creative. Is they're they're
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  creative, and I'm gonna leave it to day now. The first way,
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  and the most obvious way is through visitation. Now everyone is probably heard in
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  connection with the drug world the term mule. A mule is someone who carries
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  drugs inside their body. Now, most guys in prison, they don't have
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  their brother or their friend or someone bring drug simply because most men are highly
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  uncocomfortable shoving something up their ass, coming into prison, going into the bathroom,
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  defecating it out, washing it off, and then bringing it out and
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  slipping it to the inmate. And then the inmate holds it on for a
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  little bit and then they go into the bathroom and they shove it up,
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  they ass and then they take it back. Most men are uncomfortable with that
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  coming in from the street, so a lot of guys that's where the women
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  come in. They develop these relationships with these broken women and they manipulate them.
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  They play on their emotions and they get them to doing this and that,
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  and they'll they'll spend some story like honey, look, I'm so sorry,
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  Like I'm trying to do good. I'm trying to stay out of trouble.
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  But there's this gang in here, you know, and they're pulling over,
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  pull me, and they are telling me like I have to start bringing
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  in drugs for them otherwise they're gonna kill me. Honey, can you please
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  sacrifice for me? Like they do stuff like that. When sometimes it's you've
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  got girls that are in the drug day, you'll actually have some females who
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  will reach out to dudes and we know how to talk, we know how
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  to say certain things blah blah blah blah blah where we're speaking in code.
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  No, I'm not gonna give you all an example. Now, it's easier,
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  obviously for a woman to put a package in her vagina and bring it
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  in. You know, it's a lot less work. It's a lot easier
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  because even sometimes they can just sit there at the table and just spread their
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  legs and slide their hand down in front of their pants and reach up and
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  just pull it out. They usually attach a little string to it so it
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  just it barely hangs out and can't really see it. They'll hide that in
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  the hair and whatnot. And that's that's the most obvious and the most easiest
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  way. Now they have cracked down on that quite a bit. The visitation
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  rooms now don't have a lot of cameras in them. And if they even
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  suspect you of doing anything, they've got what they call a draw cell.
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  A draw cell has nothing in it. It has no bed in it,
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  no table, Everything is sealed off. There's literally no hiding place. And
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  they've got a toilet in there that has no water in it. And you
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  have to go in there and they will give you liquid x lax and you
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  have to drink it, and you time to think, oh, man,
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  I ain't drinking it. They can't make it. They will beat your ass,
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  they will hold you down, they will shove a tube down your throat
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  and they will pour it in you like you're going. That's just all there
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  is to it. Like if they put you in a draw cell, you're
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  staying in that cell until you use the bathroom and it can't flush you.
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  There's no way you can flu there's no opening, you can't put your hand
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  down in there and stuff it down. The fight. No, it's because
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  like it's all stealed up and got cameras in the cell. They sit there
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  and they watch it, and they wait until you've used that bathroom and then
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  they'll handcuff you and shackle you. They'll pull you out, and then the
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  investigators have the glamorous job of uf putting on some rubber gloves and go and
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  digging they find something you asked going to seg and your visitator, your visitation,
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  They hold them upfront, they won't let them leave, and if they
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  actually do find something, they call the Virginia State Police or the state police
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  in whatever state you happen to be in, and that person gets arrested,
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  and you're going to get a straight charge and you're going to the hole and
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  they're going to go through yourself and tear everything up. They're going to go
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  on your books, have a business office. They're going to confiscate all your
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  money and hold that unless you can prove that it did not come from drugs.
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  And nine times out of ten you can't prove that. You can sit
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  there say, man, my grandma sent it. My grandma sent that.
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  Look you think these people really care, nah, because they're just going to
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  confiscate that money and put it in the in their little prison and fond or
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  whatever that they you know, they do the buy stuff for themselves, new
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  cars, new guns, defences, whatever. So that's the most obvious way
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  of getting that stuff. And the other second most obvious way is for these
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  correctional officers to bring it in. That's you gotta be really really really really
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  really careful for that. You've got to have a lot of money, because
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  I can tell you right now, most CEOs they're not going to do it
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  unless I mean, you really have to make the risk work with it.
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  Now, there's thing that we do we don't just inmas aren't just gonna pull
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  up. And when I say we, I don't mean me. I've never
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  been involved in a drug trade. I've never I've smoked the equivalent of maybe
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  two joints in my life. I've never popped pills. I've never sniffed anything.
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  I've never shot anything up. I've never done none of that. I've
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  never popped acid, nothing. It's just not my thing. But you have
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  guys in here. They'll watch the CEOs and and they'll look they'll look at
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  their fingertips because people that smoke cigarettes, people that smoke weed, and you
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  especially, they roll joints and everything, their fingertips are sustained. So that's
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  one of the signs that God's in prison will look for. They'll look for
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  guys that their noses are kind of red, they're kind of sniffling all the
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  time, their eyes are kind of bloodshot, they're fidgety, you know,
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  can't really sit still. They kind of you know, they scratch a little
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  bit here and there. Because when you're here for a twelve hour shift and
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  you can't get high, and you're used to getting high a lot, you
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  start to fidget, you start to those little mannerisms. They come up out
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  of you. You can't help yourself. So God sit back and they watch
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  and they analyze everyone that works in prison. And when they see someone like
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  that, it's real simple. They just pull up on them. When they
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  just buy themselves and say, yo, look you will you get high?
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  Oh no, man, they're not. Bro. You get high once you
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  do when you when we work something out. Man, oh man, you
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  know molly or I smoke weed or man coke or hair, whatever it is.
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  Dude, Like, look, bro, we can make a deal,
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  man, Like I can give you, I can give you a ball,
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  I can give you a pound of weed. I can give you this and
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  that. All you got to do, man, is just start bringing along
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  something to me. And a dude that's getting high, he's not going to
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  turn down free drugs, especially. All he got to do is just bring
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  it in and drop it off and let old boy pick it up. Those
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  are some of the things that you can do. Those are the two most
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  obvious things. I'm not going to give any other example for the simple fact
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  I don't snitch, and nothing I said is not already known by every single
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  Department of corrections in the world. But that's that's how people operate. People.
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  They didn't get hot, like I mean, it's no matter where you're
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  at. It seems like Walling's Ridge is literally built on top of a mountain.
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  Like the mountain was the top of the Mountain was dynamited off so they
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  could build this prison. And there's so many freaking drugs here, Like it's
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  ridiculous. Now, granted the wardens and them, they're doing what they can
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  of stop it. And they had because when I first got here, before
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  the new wardens got here, dudes, well, you would have three or
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  four od's every single week up here, Like I mean, that's why we
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  stayed on lockdown so much because it was constantly shaken down searching for drugs because
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  you had three or four dudes od and every single week up here. Now,
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  most of them didn't die every now and then you had something that did.
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  But most time they was able to get the nurse over there and narcanum
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  really fast, which saved a lot of their lives. But like it's up
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  here, we're out in the middle of nowhere. I can't imagine like a
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  prison close to say like Houston, Texas or Dallas, Texas or something like
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  that's so and open. It's so huge. When you got to prison this
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  guy seven thousand inmates, you got to have one thousand guards or more.
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  Like you're always gonna be able to find somebody Like places flooded in prison with
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  drugs, Like that's just just just big currency. We just had a whole
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  situation up here. I've already talked about this, but I'm just gonna give
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  just a little bit more so you know, new listeners know what I'm talking
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  about. You had two groups in here. You had two guys on one
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  side. You had three to four guys on the other side. And the
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  two guys were house bending. They were going out and digging used chewing tobacco
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  out the trash cans, and they were making one thousand dollars a week selling
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  used chewing tobacco to guys who smoking drugs like you have. Some dudes in
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  prison are making twenty to thirty thousand dollars a week selling drugs. It's big,
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  big business in here. And this is the thing, Like, there's
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  nothing they're going to be able to do because guys in here have nothing but
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  time on their hands. You have years after year after year of figuring out
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  security. You have year after year after year of learning how the place operates,
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  looking for the weak spots. That's what dudes do. Everybody in here
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  has been trained, for the most part to see angles. It's just a
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  natural course of being in prison. You look for ways to get over.
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  You look for ways to figure out how to make your life better, to
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  improve your life, especially your finances, because the prison food sucks, like
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  prison food is really, really, really freaking bad. So you have to
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  have money to buy a commissary. And these commissary companies like Kathi, they
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  charge us ten times you have one minute remaining. There's nothing anybody's ever going
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  to be able to do to stop that problem in here. It's just it's
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  going to be a never ending loop. But I hope you enjoyed listening me
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  today. Don't forget to check out my website, red on your Randy dot
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  com. I'm on Twitter at red on your Randy. Take care, stay
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