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- 0:26Speaker 1: agency begins next week. There aren't a lot of big
- 0:30Speaker 1: name free agents on the Saints roster. We're gonna keep
- 0:34Speaker 1: an eye on Pulsing a debo, what happens with him
- 0:37Speaker 1: coming off of injury. Posted a really cool video to
- 0:39Speaker 1: social media if you missed it, by the way, Paulson
- 0:41Speaker 1: Adebo posted a video of him doing a standing backflip,
- 0:46Speaker 1: which certainly indicates he's making tremendous progress in his recovery,
- 0:50Speaker 1: which is awesome to see. Posted it on his Instagram,
- 0:53Speaker 1: then shared it to his Twitter as well. Not just
- 0:55Speaker 1: the backflip, but like cone drills and all kind of stuff.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Pull us up, Paul, if you would, there's Paul to
- 1:00Speaker 1: you right there if you're watching so standing backflip and
- 1:02Speaker 1: looking pretty good coming off the broken leg, moving good
- 1:05Speaker 1: with the three cone drill, so good agility and looks
- 1:08Speaker 1: like he'll be ready. And this is a good time
- 1:10Speaker 1: to post something like this as well. Free agency is
- 1:12Speaker 1: about to begin. A debo is going to be a
- 1:14Speaker 1: free agent. Here is a free agent, so the Saints
- 1:17Speaker 1: are gonna have to decide if they're going to resign
- 1:19Speaker 1: him or if he's going to go test the market.
- 1:21Speaker 1: And then there's Juwan Johnson as well, So a debo
- 1:23Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson and then Chase Young. I mean, those really
- 1:26Speaker 1: are the three big name quote unquote free agents that
- 1:30Speaker 1: the Saints have that they have to decide what they're
- 1:32Speaker 1: going to do, if they're going to resign these guys
- 1:33Speaker 1: or what. But the more we keep diving into targets
- 1:39Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints in free agency, I think
- 1:43Speaker 1: the more it's starting to crystallize what their approach is
- 1:46Speaker 1: going to have to be in the draft. So, for example,
- 1:51Speaker 1: if they don't resign Juwan Johnson and your only tight
- 1:54Speaker 1: end is Foster Moro on the last year of his deal,
- 1:59Speaker 1: Tyler warned nine makes a lot of sense now, if
- 2:03Speaker 1: you re signed Juwan Johnson, you're probably not going tight
- 2:05Speaker 1: end at nine, Okay. But I keep looking at Chase
- 2:10Speaker 1: Young more closely than anyone else because I think Juwan
- 2:18Speaker 1: Johnson's gonna sign somewhere else, and I think, unfortunately for
- 2:20Speaker 1: Pauls and the debo coming off the injury, he's probably
- 2:24Speaker 1: not gonna have as robust to market. And even if
- 2:27Speaker 1: he does, the Saints already have Altte Taylor and kool
- 2:31Speaker 1: Aid McKinstry. I mean, they've invested in that spot. Chase
- 2:35Speaker 1: Young is interesting because the Saints were one of the
- 2:38Speaker 1: worst pass rush teams in the league this year, and
- 2:40Speaker 1: Chase Young was sort of a bright spot. Uh. He
- 2:43Speaker 1: finished the season, played in all seventeen games, had thirty
- 2:47Speaker 1: one tackles, which is the second most in his career,
- 2:49Speaker 1: five and a half sacks, eight TfL, So a good
- 2:52Speaker 1: productive year for Chase Young. It was a one year,
- 2:55Speaker 1: proven deal and he proved it. He proved he could
- 2:56Speaker 1: stay healthy and be productive. He's in his mid twenties,
- 2:59Speaker 1: still in this physical prime, so he's going to have
- 3:01Speaker 1: a market. And the odds makers over at at bet
- 3:07Speaker 1: online dot Ag posted the odds for a handful of
- 3:12Speaker 1: big name defensive players and where they may land. And
- 3:18Speaker 1: they asked the question, would Chase Young be back with
- 3:20Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, and no is a minus one
- 3:25Speaker 1: fifty favorite for Chase Young not to be back in
- 3:28Speaker 1: New Orleans. So they are heavily assuming that Chase Young
- 3:33Speaker 1: is going to sign somewhere else. For what it's worth,
- 3:35Speaker 1: we got this up at Louisiana Sports on that if
- 3:36Speaker 1: you want to go read it. They have the New
- 3:38Speaker 1: England Patriots as the betting favorite to land Chase Hung
- 3:42Speaker 1: after that, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville, Detroit,
- 3:47Speaker 1: the Chargers, whole bunch of teams there. But anyway, the
- 3:49Speaker 1: point being, it is seemingly unlikely according to the odds makers,
- 3:54Speaker 1: that Chase Young is back. He proved it. He's going
- 3:56Speaker 1: to have a robust market. Someone with more money than
- 3:59Speaker 1: the Saints is going to pay. So if that happens
- 4:02Speaker 1: and you don't resign Chase Young, think about where you're left.
- 4:06Speaker 1: You've got an aging Cam Jordan who has really become
- 4:11Speaker 1: nothing more than just a situational pass rusher kind of
- 4:17Speaker 1: spot role player. Defensively, he's just the productivity has just
- 4:23Speaker 1: waned for Cam Jordan this year. Jordan played in seventeen games,
- 4:30Speaker 1: had just thirty four tackles, four sacks, seven TFLs. For
- 4:35Speaker 1: a guy that was and you paid to be a
- 4:38Speaker 1: franchise edge rusher throughout his career, he just isn't that anymore.
- 4:43Speaker 1: And after you paid Carl Granterson he had a disappointing
- 4:46Speaker 1: season as well. You used a second round pick on
- 4:49Speaker 1: Isaiah Foski two years ago and he's played in just
- 4:52Speaker 1: over twenty games in his career. So after playing in
- 4:56Speaker 1: ten games as a rookie, he played in every game
- 4:59Speaker 1: this past year, twenty seven games in his career that
- 5:01Speaker 1: he's played in. But in those twenty seven games he's
- 5:04Speaker 1: got fewer than thirty career tackles. He's really been a
- 5:07Speaker 1: special teamer. You gotta go ed rusher. The more I
- 5:11Speaker 1: look at this, I say, look, whatever happens in free
- 5:15Speaker 1: agency largely is gonna dictate what you do in the draft.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Because if you're able to go address positions of need
- 5:23Speaker 1: in free agency by resigning your free agents or adding
- 5:25Speaker 1: free agents, then it's not really a top priority in
- 5:28Speaker 1: the draft. But if you don't address it in free agency,
- 5:32Speaker 1: then you gotta go get it in the draft. I
- 5:34Speaker 1: tally sa Fuaga last year being drafted in the first round.
- 5:38Speaker 1: You moved Trevor Penning to the right side. You didn't
- 5:40Speaker 1: add a tackle in free agency James Hurst retired. You
- 5:43Speaker 1: had to get a tackle, no doubt, and they did
- 5:45Speaker 1: it with their first round pick. So I look at
- 5:49Speaker 1: this and I go Okay, Cam's old Granderson underperformed. Foski's
- 5:53Speaker 1: a bust betting favorite. A betting odds suggests Chase Hung
- 5:59Speaker 1: isn't going to be back in New Orleans. Well, you
- 6:01Speaker 1: gotta go get somebody. Well, I'm looking at at these
- 6:05Speaker 1: odds again. From bed Online. DeMarcus Lawrence minus one ninety
- 6:10Speaker 1: that he returns to New Orleans, even if I'm sorry,
- 6:13Speaker 1: that he returns to Dallas. Even if he doesn't return
- 6:15Speaker 1: to Dallas, the Saints don't even have odds to sign him.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is someone we talked about because of his
- 6:21Speaker 1: connection with Brandon Staley. With the Chargers, they have Bosa.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Obviously he's not going to resign with the Chargers. They've
- 6:28Speaker 1: released him. So the betting favorite right now is the
- 6:32Speaker 1: forty nine Ers to Land to be played with his
- 6:34Speaker 1: brother Nick. Of the dozen or so teams listed with odds,
- 6:39Speaker 1: the Saints are not one of them. Saints don't even
- 6:41Speaker 1: have odds with Josh Sweat not anticipated to return to
- 6:46Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, He's actually projected to go to Carolina.
- 6:49Speaker 1: The Saints have eighteen to one odds, are about the
- 6:51Speaker 1: tenth best odds after the Commander's Cardinals, Pats, Falcon, Seahawks, Chargers, Panthers, Bears, Lions,
- 6:56Speaker 1: Cowboys than the Saints at eighteen to one. Point is
- 6:59Speaker 1: we go Toali Mack not expected to return to the Chargers.
- 7:04Speaker 1: The Saints do not have odds of landing Khalil Mack
- 7:07Speaker 1: point and all this is up for free. We have
- 7:08Speaker 1: sports that end. If you want to go see the
- 7:10Speaker 1: entire breakdown. But the point is it seems unlikely that
- 7:16Speaker 1: you're going to be able to sign an edge rusher
- 7:19Speaker 1: in free agency. If you can't sign an edge rusher
- 7:22Speaker 1: in free agency, you don't retain the free agent that
- 7:25Speaker 1: you have in Chase Young, and the guys you have
- 7:29Speaker 1: are old, underperforming, and a bust. You gotta go get
- 7:32Speaker 1: an edge rusher. I mean to say, it's true, the
- 7:36Speaker 1: Saints need everything. They need everything. That's what happens when
- 7:39Speaker 1: you're bad. But man, in this league, if you don't
- 7:44Speaker 1: have a quarterback, someone who can protect the quarterback, and
- 7:47Speaker 1: someone who can affect the quarterback, you can't win. And
- 7:51Speaker 1: so that's quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher like those. It's
- 7:56Speaker 1: why those positions get paid the way they do. It's
- 7:59Speaker 1: why Crosby just got the biggest deal for an edge
- 8:02Speaker 1: rusher in the history of the league because he can
- 8:04Speaker 1: affect the passer in a division where you gotta face
- 8:08Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert and Bo Nick's asters will see.
- 8:14Speaker 1: But Ross Jackson over Louisiana Sports on Net has a
- 8:19Speaker 1: piece up right now. It's the top five realistic draft
- 8:22Speaker 1: prospects for the Saints at nine. Who's realistically gonna be
- 8:26Speaker 1: on the board for the Saints when they pick at nine.
- 8:29Speaker 1: We talk all one about Shadur or someone like that dropping,
- 8:32Speaker 1: but the top five he has are Teto McMillan, the
- 8:36Speaker 1: receiver at Arizona, Mason Graham, the defensive lineman out of Michigan.
- 8:40Speaker 1: I don't know that he drops. It'd be great if
- 8:41Speaker 1: he did. Penn Sate tight end Tyler Warren, but again
- 8:45Speaker 1: remains to be seen. What happens in free agency. If
- 8:49Speaker 1: you're re signed Juwan Johnson, you're not taking Tyler Warren
- 8:51Speaker 1: at nine. So we'll know this once free agency begins.
- 8:55Speaker 1: But the last two that Ross mentions are the ones
- 8:57Speaker 1: that I think are the most interesting because the more
- 8:58Speaker 1: I think about this, While I would love the Saints
- 9:01Speaker 1: to pick Tyler Warren, I think if you are in
- 9:03Speaker 1: compete and win now mode, which the Saints have said
- 9:06Speaker 1: they are right, that's not me saying it's Mickey Loomis
- 9:09Speaker 1: and and uh and Ellen Moore have said. Ellen Moore
- 9:14Speaker 1: have said they're they're competing to win now. Okay, well
- 9:18Speaker 1: that's the case, then what do you need to win now? Well,
- 9:21Speaker 1: if you sign a tight end in free agency, then
- 9:23Speaker 1: you're not gonna draft a tight end at nine. You
- 9:26Speaker 1: absolutely have to get edge rushers. Jalen Walker out of
- 9:30Speaker 1: Georgia is one that Ross mentioned, and the other was
- 9:35Speaker 1: James Pierce out of Tennessee. And the interesting thing about
- 9:39Speaker 1: James Pierce out of Tennessee is a lot of the
- 9:42Speaker 1: word out of the combine is that some of the
- 9:44Speaker 1: character issues came up. And I'm gonna tell you you know,
- 9:49Speaker 1: before this past season, Pierce was projected by some if
- 9:55Speaker 1: you go look at preseason mock drafts. He was projected
- 9:59Speaker 1: as the number one in this draft, preseason number one
- 10:03Speaker 1: on big boards and things like that. He had a
- 10:07Speaker 1: good year for Tennessee. He's six', five he's, athletic he's
- 10:11Speaker 1: a good pass, rusher elite pass. Rusher but you're seeing
- 10:15Speaker 1: him fall a little down boards and that might be
- 10:17Speaker 1: because of character. Issues something worth. Watching. Now we know
- 10:20Speaker 1: this time of year there are always teams at plant
- 10:23Speaker 1: stories about guys hoping that those guys fall so they
- 10:26Speaker 1: can get him at better. Value i'm not suggesting The
- 10:28Speaker 1: saints have done that With. Pierce i'm just saying somebody
- 10:30Speaker 1: might have done that With. Piers but if there is you,
- 10:34Speaker 1: know as they, say where the, smoke there's usually. Fire
- 10:36Speaker 1: if that's the, CASE i don't know That pierce is
- 10:39Speaker 1: the guy you want to target because at some point
- 10:42Speaker 1: the talent is worth the. RISK i don't know if
- 10:44Speaker 1: that's the case at, nine especially with a new head
- 10:46Speaker 1: coach who's the youngest head coach in the league at
- 10:49Speaker 1: thirty six years, old trying to instill. Culture so While
- 10:55Speaker 1: pierce's talent would be, tantalizing he may be the. Choice Jalen,
- 10:59Speaker 1: wicker maybe a guy we start talking more and more
- 11:02Speaker 1: about at, nine because depending on what The saints do
- 11:05Speaker 1: in free, agency and they're what seemingly with all these
- 11:08Speaker 1: odds inability to sign an, edge you're gonna have to
- 11:12Speaker 1: get a pass rusher early in this, draft and it
- 11:15Speaker 1: might be at, nine might be one of the guys
- 11:16Speaker 1: we just mentioned