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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, it's Saturday. It's a cozy Saturday up
- 0:24Speaker 2: here in Santa Clarita. And oh you got your swig, Emily?
- 0:29Speaker 2: Oh good, idea, where is my swig? I'm sure it's
- 0:31Speaker 2: around here somewhere. We're doing mom talk today. We're doing
- 0:36Speaker 2: you know, as I fumble and scramble through my drawer
- 0:40Speaker 2: to find my swig cup sticker. Well, I'll find it
- 0:44Speaker 2: in a second. When Emily's talking, I'll get in there.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, and I'm really I have a monologue to deliver.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Oh well, like Jordan's at pool at the pool side.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Go ahead, Oh my god. Okay, So we are covering
- 0:59Speaker 2: episode three through five today. We are going to continue
- 1:04Speaker 2: to really, you know, chew this meat if you will like,
- 1:09Speaker 2: because it is so good. I know everyone's done watching this.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I know everyone is done watching the reunion. You guys
- 1:16Speaker 2: are probably on season you know four right now. Okay,
- 1:20Speaker 2: but this is where we are, and I have no regrets,
- 1:26Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about it. Most importantly, I
- 1:29Speaker 2: have an announcement. Okay, I'm going to start my own
- 1:32Speaker 2: mom talk, and so I will be starting my own
- 1:38Speaker 2: mom talk. So just look for that. You know, I
- 1:44Speaker 2: can't wait.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Can I be in that?
- 1:47Speaker 2: No? No, you're in this one. You're in this one,
- 1:51Speaker 2: and I'm not in this one because you said I
- 1:53Speaker 2: can't be in it. That's what you said to me.
- 1:58Speaker 1: I said, I said you can be in it.
- 2:01Speaker 3: We all set around and dealt with you for months
- 2:04Speaker 3: and then agreed she could be.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Back in that flashback to like the voting was so
- 2:11Speaker 2: insulting to Whitney. Whitney took it with a lot of
- 2:14Speaker 2: you know es water off a ducts back, but like
- 2:17Speaker 2: no one wanted her in it, and they're like, I
- 2:19Speaker 2: don't fucking care, you know. So that's why I'm like
- 2:23Speaker 2: when she comes back in and she's like, this is
- 2:25Speaker 2: a business thing, and she's right. I mean, on some
- 2:30Speaker 2: levels she's right, because for example, when they were like voting,
- 2:32Speaker 2: they're like, well, you know, I don't like her, but
- 2:35Speaker 2: if it's good for mom talk, it's like, okay, so
- 2:37Speaker 2: that's your point, right, So you're saying she can be
- 2:40Speaker 2: in it because it's kind of like business, right, So
- 2:43Speaker 2: isn't that what she's kind of saying? I mean, yeah,
- 2:46Speaker 2: it would be great to have real friendships, but at
- 2:49Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's a bumpy road with her.
- 2:51Speaker 2: So if it's just business, so it's business.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:56Speaker 3: I think that Whitney we saw the best she could
- 2:59Speaker 3: be last season in and it nearly killed her.
- 3:03Speaker 1: And now she is putting she is projecting.
- 3:07Speaker 3: A lot on these gals, and now we're seeing the
- 3:10Speaker 3: real Whitney back.
- 3:12Speaker 2: And I love it. There has to be a villain,
- 3:13Speaker 2: and I think it's too fantastic. I love everything about
- 3:17Speaker 2: how she is forward facing about the reasons why she's
- 3:20Speaker 2: coming back to mom talk. She's not, you know, cloaking
- 3:24Speaker 2: it in some sort of bullshit reason. She's saying, I
- 3:27Speaker 2: found out that Dancing with the Stars is going to
- 3:29Speaker 2: be casting you know, members of this cast or a
- 3:33Speaker 2: cast member, and I want to get in on that.
- 3:34Speaker 2: So here I am, you know, and I wasn't going
- 3:36Speaker 2: to come back.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:37Speaker 3: We rarely get someone that embraces it that hard and
- 3:40Speaker 3: then still gives us like a cackle in their interview,
- 3:45Speaker 3: like an evil layer.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of amazing. I mean truly, I mean
- 3:51Speaker 2: that's what I think that. I don't know if someone
- 3:54Speaker 2: told her embrace the villain, or if she just is
- 3:58Speaker 2: like I'm tired and this is what I want to do, so.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I guess I'm also confused. Back to the
- 4:04Speaker 3: terms of why she didn't come back to the show.
- 4:08Speaker 3: She's like, I didn't say that about the oscars. I
- 4:10Speaker 3: did say that about the scripted but I'm believer, Yeah.
- 4:13Speaker 1: I do too.
- 4:14Speaker 3: And it's like, wait, you were willing to walk away
- 4:17Speaker 3: from this show until you heard about Dancing with the Stars. Like,
- 4:22Speaker 3: something doesn't feel totally. I know she says how much
- 4:25Speaker 3: she wants Dancing with the Stars, but to me, there's
- 4:28Speaker 3: something still not I wonder.
- 4:31Speaker 2: That's a good question. I wonder if it's the same
- 4:33Speaker 2: thing as Demi, which is that they tried to negotiate,
- 4:39Speaker 2: it didn't work out, the cast moved on, and then
- 4:42Speaker 2: Demi just started showing up right because she's like, Okay,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I'm not going to get the money. I'm still going
- 4:47Speaker 2: to I tried, I'm going to just show up right.
- 4:49Speaker 2: So she's back on the show. So Whitney has a
- 4:51Speaker 2: better excuse to say. I found out that they're doing
- 4:55Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, and in the background of this
- 4:58Speaker 2: all is they're also she without me, I didn't get
- 5:01Speaker 2: the money I asked for I didn't get the role
- 5:03Speaker 2: on a scripted show, so I'm going to go back.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And what a better way than to embrace my villain
- 5:09Speaker 2: ship is to say, well, I heard that they're doing
- 5:11Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, so I'm back. Yeah, instead of
- 5:15Speaker 2: saying like they didn't give me my money, they didn't
- 5:17Speaker 2: meet me where I wanted to be. So that's why
- 5:20Speaker 2: I am back. You know, she didn't have to eat
- 5:22Speaker 2: really humble pie. She just had to be kind of
- 5:24Speaker 2: a bitch and saying I wanted dancing the Stars.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah, she could have had humble pie. She tried that
- 5:30Speaker 1: last season.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah, but it only got her so far. It got
- 5:35Speaker 2: her so far as to be back kind of in
- 5:37Speaker 2: mom talk, you know. But by the way, there are
- 5:41Speaker 2: such Sheina undertones to this. You know, when Jen is like,
- 5:45Speaker 2: I can't believe Whitney. She always knew that Dancing with
- 5:49Speaker 2: the Stars was my dream. I was like, wow. And also,
- 5:53Speaker 2: you know, quite frankly, to anyone out there, any young gals,
- 5:58Speaker 2: we all know it's your dream. It's everyone dream, even
- 6:00Speaker 2: if they say it's not their dream. Everyone kind of
- 6:03Speaker 2: at some level when they see Dancing with the Stars,
- 6:05Speaker 2: they say to themselves that might be kind of cool,
- 6:08Speaker 2: even if it's for two seconds.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Yes, when Dancing with the Stars calls drama, darling, I
- 6:14Speaker 3: do not want it, so give it to give it
- 6:18Speaker 3: to Jamie.
- 6:19Speaker 2: No one's taking it except for me. No one's getting it.
- 6:23Speaker 1: But Jamie's always wanted it.
- 6:25Speaker 2: I don't care. We can dance it out on the floor. Shit,
- 6:30Speaker 2: she's gonna win. Everybody loves Jamie. She's my biggest competition.
- 6:36Speaker 1: You guys should be partners.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Oh no, that would be fun.
- 6:41Speaker 1: For the first time ever.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Two amateurs, the blind leading the blind take the dance floor.
- 6:52Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
- 6:55Speaker 2: I like how it like fades away.
- 6:59Speaker 3: What was crazy to me is I didn't have the
- 7:01Speaker 3: perspective during the reunion last year, or I didn't, I
- 7:06Speaker 3: couldn't have forgotten this.
- 7:08Speaker 1: How insane it must have felt for them to hear
- 7:10Speaker 1: Whitney book Dancing with the Stars, and that, remember it
- 7:13Speaker 1: was the reveal at the reunion.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yes, and also that when Jen was announced, Whitney had
- 7:21Speaker 2: no reaction. She's like, oh, that's cool, you know, like
- 7:24Speaker 2: you would have never thought that the backstory was this involved.
- 7:28Speaker 2: And I love this. I love that they didn't tip
- 7:31Speaker 2: their hat to the drama. That's happening this season around
- 7:35Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars because that would have been such
- 7:38Speaker 2: a giveaway. They have to be so careful with those
- 7:40Speaker 2: stupid ass mom talk reunions because they're overlapping so fast
- 7:46Speaker 2: that they can't That was like the.
- 7:49Speaker 1: They did Oh did they do it? I haven't seen
- 7:51Speaker 1: the reunion yet.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't seen the reunion, but I'm saying
- 7:54Speaker 2: like they've already filmed the reunion and they're probably already
- 7:57Speaker 2: filming again in between the reunion, don't you think.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 8:02Speaker 3: I yeah, because that was last year that they had
- 8:06Speaker 3: the whole thing with Jesse and I can't talk about it.
- 8:08Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.
- 8:10Speaker 2: And then this year Whitney has been on Dancing with
- 8:14Speaker 2: the Stars. They've been probably filming that. Plus she just
- 8:17Speaker 2: got Chicago, Chicago. Yeah, oh my god, it's got a sting.
- 8:27Speaker 2: God listen. Here's the thing, though, I you know, I
- 8:31Speaker 2: watched enough of Dancing with the Stars clips to see
- 8:36Speaker 2: that Whitney has got the it factor. She's got what
- 8:39Speaker 2: it takes. She's phenomenal, she deserves it, and I love
- 8:44Speaker 2: that she is going to be in Chicago. That role
- 8:47Speaker 2: is meant for you know, I mean, it can be
- 8:51Speaker 2: meant for reality stars that can be controversial and somewhat scandalous,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and that's her. You know, Erica had that part.
- 9:02Speaker 3: So I also don't think that they have to worry
- 9:07Speaker 3: about Whitney's mom talk because Whitney is an individual. She's
- 9:13Speaker 3: not a team player, and I think she's just going
- 9:17Speaker 3: to go down this road of like Whitney's career, I
- 9:19Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be like, yeah, I want
- 9:21Speaker 3: to keep a group, a business group of equal parts going.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Did you see those two gals she brought to films
- 9:31Speaker 2: like she met them?
- 9:32Speaker 1: Oh, hey, Windbury, he's getting a table soon. I saw you.
- 9:37Speaker 3: I went to the host stand and just ask for
- 9:39Speaker 3: who's got a thirty minute?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Wait? Can you film with me? Real quick?
- 9:43Speaker 2: Totally They did look like they didn't want to be there,
- 9:48Speaker 2: like they're not sure about it, and also like they
- 9:50Speaker 2: didn't know her very well.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Not at all.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Yeah, so they look like they were pulling to the
- 9:57Speaker 2: glam corner real quick.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Yep.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Yeah, thrown out right and sat down and told look
- 10:05Speaker 2: at the bird, look at the bird, look at the bird.
- 10:08Speaker 3: And he's like, hey, I know you guys are getting it.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Getting sat in three minutes. I have your buzzer.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Let's go over to Sephora. Let's get let a quick.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Makeover, and then come over and pretend that we went
- 10:21Speaker 3: to high school together.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Please, thank you.
- 10:23Speaker 2: It's the same. It's the cops that busted up that
- 10:26Speaker 2: party that have never watched the show. She's like, Hey,
- 10:30Speaker 2: you've never seen this, so you probably don't know you
- 10:32Speaker 2: know who I am or like what I'm about, which
- 10:34Speaker 2: is perfect. Come with me. We're going to change you
- 10:36Speaker 2: out of your uniforms wear this. I mean, it was great.
- 10:44Speaker 2: You know the fact that she did say, you know,
- 10:47Speaker 2: I'm going to start my own mom talk and the
- 10:50Speaker 2: laughter that ensued after that was really funny. And then
- 10:54Speaker 2: when Mikayla said, good, hell, I want us all to
- 10:57Speaker 2: listen to that, it made me laugh. I'm gonna start
- 11:00Speaker 2: my own mom talk. I wanted to know what she
- 11:05Speaker 2: was gonna say after that, and hopefully and and hopefully
- 11:08Speaker 2: what she just walked out she did, she just got.
- 11:13Speaker 2: She was She was laughed out of that joint.
- 11:16Speaker 1: She was literally ass left.
- 11:21Speaker 3: That. I mean, you couldn't have been like they are
- 11:24Speaker 3: more abrupt, there's more slams happening in an exit like that.
- 11:28Speaker 1: She just like got up.
- 11:30Speaker 2: And laughed because she doesn't care because she is winning
- 11:34Speaker 2: and she's gonna win.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:37Speaker 3: I don't want to hang out with Whitney, but I respect.
- 11:41Speaker 1: What she's up to.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I hung out with Whitney. I hung out with Jen,
- 11:45Speaker 2: I hung out with Demi. I hung out with them
- 11:48Speaker 2: all in my dream last night.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, Amy, It's like I had a dream that
- 11:53Speaker 3: I was watching Mom Talk with Mom Talk.
- 11:58Speaker 2: It was so crazy. It like, was Demi there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
- 12:03Speaker 2: She's like, was Demi there? And I was like, yep,
- 12:06Speaker 2: she sure was. Everybody was there. I couldn't believe it,
- 12:09Speaker 2: and everyone was getting along for the most part, I think.
- 12:14Speaker 2: I it was really weird because in the dream I
- 12:19Speaker 2: was like either drunk or stoned because I couldn't like,
- 12:25Speaker 2: you know.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Wal because they're all doing ketamine.
- 12:29Speaker 2: H But it was really hard because I wanted to
- 12:32Speaker 2: connect with them, but I couldn't be fully you know,
- 12:35Speaker 2: like walk or do anything because I or talk very well.
- 12:39Speaker 2: So I was doing my best and I was like,
- 12:41Speaker 2: I get I'm blowing it with all these ladies, Like
- 12:43Speaker 2: this is so exciting. And anyway, it was weird. It
- 12:47Speaker 2: was weird. It was weird. We were at someone's house.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You know, we're all all all around this table Jesse's.
- 12:54Speaker 2: I don't know whose house it was.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Do you do this in your dreams? Do you realize
- 12:59Speaker 3: when you wake up, like it's always kind of a same.
- 13:02Speaker 1: House like layout. Like I'm always like, oh wait, that's
- 13:06Speaker 1: still like, that's this house.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Still, even though I thought it was someplace else. You're like,
- 13:11Speaker 3: my brain just gave it the same setting.
- 13:13Speaker 2: It's the same setting, like a set. Every time you
- 13:16Speaker 2: have a dream in your inner room, it's like the
- 13:18Speaker 2: same room.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:19Speaker 3: I'm just realizing, like when I wake up, like I
- 13:22Speaker 3: thought I was in la someplace, but actually that that
- 13:25Speaker 3: room setup is like a room setup that I always
- 13:28Speaker 3: have my dreams as like when I grew up a house.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Oh interesting, wow, no, a minor usually different. But the
- 13:37Speaker 2: way you probably experienced this too, where it's like, Okay,
- 13:41Speaker 2: we were at Emily's house, but it wasn't Emily's house,
- 13:44Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 13:44Speaker 1: It didn't look anything.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Like your house, but when you were at your house,
- 13:47Speaker 2: So that everybody, I feel like everybody has that, right, Yeah,
- 13:50Speaker 2: but a similar setup or like the same set. I
- 13:54Speaker 2: don't have that.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Hmmm, I don't have it all the time, but it
- 13:59Speaker 1: is often the case.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Well, everyone's different. I mean, I'm sure you don't wake
- 14:03Speaker 2: up in the middle of the I and go like
- 14:06Speaker 2: I do, still doing that. I'm kidding.
- 14:10Speaker 3: This is Dancing with the Stars. This is a great
- 14:13Speaker 3: side story of Amy's journey.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Please call her.
- 14:15Speaker 3: She'll make a great contestant and she can talk about
- 14:20Speaker 3: her sleep journey.
- 14:21Speaker 2: I don't know if I've really had many sleep terrors lately.
- 14:24Speaker 2: As a matter of it's good. I know it is.
- 14:27Speaker 3: We need those to come back. If you want a
- 14:29Speaker 3: book Dancing with the Stars.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Okay, I'll started dressing myself out. Maybe I'll change my medication.
- 14:34Speaker 2: We'll see where I'll see where it goes. Great, this
- 14:39Speaker 2: show's about to get a lot more in tercing, say,
- 14:45Speaker 2: just coming back. I actually had I had an appointment
- 14:47Speaker 2: with a new obg y N and like this the
- 14:52Speaker 2: because my ob g y n, as you many of
- 14:55Speaker 2: you know, menopause boot Camp. She wrote that book, doctor
- 14:57Speaker 2: Gilbert Lens. I have her like ever since I lived
- 15:01Speaker 2: in la and that's like fifteen years, right. So she
- 15:07Speaker 2: turned her practice into a membership only and everyone has
- 15:12Speaker 2: to wear members only jackets. So yeah, it's like two
- 15:17Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year just to be a member, you
- 15:19Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I was like, oh, you know,
- 15:21Speaker 2: I can't do that. But anyway, it's it's fine because
- 15:24Speaker 2: like she's in Beverly Hills and it's like such an intense,
- 15:28Speaker 2: you know, experienced to have to drive all the way
- 15:30Speaker 2: there and back. Anyway, So I found one in Santa Clarita,
- 15:33Speaker 2: and so I was talking to her, and she had
- 15:37Speaker 2: a student as well, like she's like do you mind.
- 15:40Speaker 2: They're like do you mind if like a student joins
- 15:42Speaker 2: you or whatever, And I'm like yeah, sure, no problem.
- 15:44Speaker 2: And so they're both in there, and I was like
- 15:47Speaker 2: telling my history and I was just like yeah, so
- 15:51Speaker 2: you know, I tried the progesterone because you know, I'm like,
- 15:54Speaker 2: I'm going through perimenopause. My doctor told me I was
- 15:56Speaker 2: having the symptoms and and I was experiencing rage. I
- 16:00Speaker 2: mean rage rage, you know. And I'm like, yeah, and
- 16:04Speaker 2: this and this and this and and so like when
- 16:06Speaker 2: they were going back through and like naming the like
- 16:09Speaker 2: so you had this and that and that, I'm like, yeah,
- 16:11Speaker 2: and rage, make sure you get rage in there.
- 16:13Speaker 1: It was really.
- 16:17Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I tried the progesterone because
- 16:19Speaker 2: my doctor's like, we'll try this, this might help, and
- 16:20Speaker 2: I'm like, didn't touch it and didn't fucking touch it.
- 16:27Speaker 2: But anyway, that's when I went on, like the anxiety.
- 16:31Speaker 2: It sort of was all around the same time. Yeah, yeah,
- 16:33Speaker 2: it was like anxiety and Perry menopausal stuff. It all
- 16:38Speaker 2: like kind of came together to a perfect time because
- 16:40Speaker 2: then it was like, oh my god, I've had this
- 16:43Speaker 2: horrific anxiety just certain things. Right, I'm not going to
- 16:49Speaker 2: go into it because I'm obviously taking a real wide
- 16:51Speaker 2: berth here, but I didn't realize it, and so that
- 16:54Speaker 2: helped with those struggles, and then on top of it
- 16:57Speaker 2: with the Perry menopausal stuff, and I just feel like
- 17:00Speaker 2: it's just been a real life saver. Anyway, I like
- 17:03Speaker 2: the new doc up here, and uh yeah, I'm excited
- 17:09Speaker 2: to uh not have to drive to Beverly Hills. Okay,
- 17:12Speaker 2: so where were we?
- 17:14Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, by the way, you're just as a
- 17:17Speaker 3: getting us back in based Like, I did have a
- 17:20Speaker 3: thought about Whitney being postpartum.
- 17:23Speaker 1: All last season, and there seems to be no grace
- 17:27Speaker 1: for that.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of grace for Jen because she
- 17:32Speaker 3: had it diagnosed and identified, and she wasn't. She was
- 17:37Speaker 3: postpartum plus pre What was her other diagnosis.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Pre natal?
- 17:44Speaker 1: Wait no, what yeah, prenatal depression.
- 17:48Speaker 3: I think so anyway, I just thought like, well, there
- 17:53Speaker 3: should be a little grace there for Whitney on that,
- 17:55Speaker 3: But that doesn't seem to be the case.
- 17:57Speaker 2: These scals are popping out babies left and right. They
- 18:00Speaker 2: are savage and they're like, I did it, You're fine,
- 18:02Speaker 2: We're all good. They're not looking at it like that,
- 18:05Speaker 2: and like you said, you know, Jen's is such an
- 18:08Speaker 2: extreme case that they can't turn the other way. But
- 18:13Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you, and I think that, like,
- 18:16Speaker 2: it's so unbelievable to me how these women are doing
- 18:21Speaker 2: all this at such a young age and then going
- 18:24Speaker 2: through the feelings and the mental challenges and emotional challenges
- 18:30Speaker 2: of having babies during this time, and no one seems
- 18:34Speaker 2: to be acknowledging it. Yeah, I absolutely agree Jen being like,
- 18:39Speaker 2: the funniest part was when they were like Taylor's like,
- 18:41Speaker 2: I have an announcement. Basically she basically did like a
- 18:45Speaker 2: whole a Britney yes, a Britney moment, which was amazing.
- 18:52Speaker 2: I can't find that clip she was like Dancing with
- 18:55Speaker 2: the Stars, wants to choose one of us, right, and
- 18:58Speaker 2: so she's like made the announcement. That's great. Well, the
- 19:01Speaker 2: way that these ladies did the math on postpartum pre
- 19:06Speaker 2: partum like planning ahead, like family planning, the way they
- 19:12Speaker 2: threw out those numbers. I'll be three months, i'll be
- 19:15Speaker 2: two and a half, I'll be this, I'll be that,
- 19:17Speaker 2: No problem, I'm in, I'm out. I can do it.
- 19:19Speaker 2: And Jen being like I ran the New York Marathon
- 19:22Speaker 2: two months postpartum, I can do it. I was like,
- 19:25Speaker 2: oh my god, these women are beasts.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Well they're also very young.
- 19:30Speaker 2: They're very yes, yes, and your body is.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Different and you can you you know you can.
- 19:38Speaker 2: You can do any very you can do anything.
- 19:41Speaker 1: It bounces back.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Everything is easier if you have those babies early.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Except for life, yeah, except for.
- 19:52Speaker 2: Everything else.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Jeez. Yeah.
- 19:54Speaker 3: But I also wonder if Jen wasn't on camera with
- 19:58Speaker 3: this issue and the p weren't dealing with it in
- 20:01Speaker 3: a serious way last season into this season, if the
- 20:06Speaker 3: if mom talk would have rallied around Gen the way
- 20:09Speaker 3: they claim that they would they are and they would
- 20:12Speaker 3: have I wonder if that was a little society pressure
- 20:15Speaker 3: to be like, no, guys, this is like a legit thing.
- 20:18Speaker 2: I think you're probably right, And who's to say they
- 20:22Speaker 2: would even be hanging out anyway? Yeah yeah, I mean
- 20:26Speaker 2: I know that there's mom talk videos and stuff, but
- 20:29Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they would have been. They
- 20:30Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have because like everything that happened with the group,
- 20:35Speaker 2: with their husbands and everything in gen moving, she would
- 20:38Speaker 2: have just stayed in Arizona, And I don't know what
- 20:41Speaker 2: would be happening as so much of their lives are
- 20:43Speaker 2: affected because of this show, right, they have to stay
- 20:47Speaker 2: together and they have to move through things. So it's
- 20:49Speaker 2: like they're forced to for better or worse, and some
- 20:52Speaker 2: is for worse and some is for better.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, and I do think legit,
- 20:59Speaker 3: they've learned that this is a serious thing.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and they'll no longer than life yeah yeah,
- 21:05Speaker 2: yeah better.
- 21:07Speaker 3: So, but I do think, like, I don't know if
- 21:09Speaker 3: they would have gotten there if it wasn't for the show.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Just putting a little little more lip
- 21:17Speaker 2: on here.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Oh thank god. I wasn't going to say anything, but
- 21:21Speaker 1: it was throwing me off so hard.
- 21:24Speaker 2: So it's it's so like natural natural Jones Road. I
- 21:32Speaker 2: do the ads for these this stuff. Oh my, here
- 21:36Speaker 2: you go. It can be blush, it can be bronze, or.
- 21:39Speaker 3: It can and do we all know what Jones Road is.
- 21:43Speaker 3: It's Bobby Brown, formerly the creator of Bobby Brown Makeup.
- 21:48Speaker 3: When she sold it off Bobby Brown, she had a
- 21:52Speaker 3: lot of ideas still and that's why she started the
- 21:55Speaker 3: company Jones Road.
- 21:57Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with it. Actually, code drama cool. Yeah,
- 22:01Speaker 2: it's good. It's actually very similar to the Saint makeup
- 22:04Speaker 2: that I use, which I like because it's that cream stuff.
- 22:08Speaker 2: So it goes really well.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Oh girl, I got a whole draw Jones Road. Don't
- 22:12Speaker 1: you you do? Bobby Brown is my gal.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. And what you're using is the Bomb.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the Yes, this is the party mix.
- 22:23Speaker 3: And we're very lucky because now the Bomb is coming
- 22:27Speaker 3: in minis.
- 22:28Speaker 1: It used to be all just the tub size, which
- 22:31Speaker 1: is great.
- 22:32Speaker 3: The person I don't I don't always wear it on
- 22:36Speaker 3: here because of my lighting, because I of the but
- 22:41Speaker 3: I'm telling you, in the flesh, it's like the perfect
- 22:45Speaker 3: like glimmer.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not only arturally, yes, even though it
- 22:50Speaker 2: does look like it has a shimmer like for example,
- 22:52Speaker 2: this one right here in the middle. Yeah, it does
- 22:55Speaker 2: have that shimmer, but it doesn't not in a bad way.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:01Speaker 3: And with the tub, I will take it like this
- 23:04Speaker 3: and my hands warm it up and just like do oh.
- 23:08Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. The tub put it
- 23:09Speaker 2: all over my face. We've all seen that, Like you've
- 23:12Speaker 2: seen it probably like on TikTok and on Instagram because
- 23:14Speaker 2: a lot of the ads are there. Yeah, yeah, well
- 23:18Speaker 2: you know what. We obviously believe in it. So that's
- 23:20Speaker 2: what we're talking about. Because this is fully Patreon, so
- 23:23Speaker 2: you know.
- 23:24Speaker 1: We only talk about math.
- 23:25Speaker 2: No, it's not like this is not this is not
- 23:28Speaker 2: an ad, this is not on public. But okay, so
- 23:32Speaker 2: I do it.
- 23:32Speaker 1: With then I'll then I'll say, also, I do it
- 23:34Speaker 1: with cocoa butter. So you can do that too.
- 23:36Speaker 3: So if you're like, I know what I did, I
- 23:38Speaker 3: just take no, I just take it by cocoa butter
- 23:40Speaker 3: by itself sometimes and.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying.
- 23:43Speaker 1: A glow that lasts anyway, keep going.
- 23:46Speaker 2: You must have really nice skin. If I put cocoa
- 23:48Speaker 2: butter on my face. I would break out. Really, I'm
- 23:51Speaker 2: sure I would. I mean, I don't know, but I'm
- 23:53Speaker 2: pretty positive. Like I'm very sensitive, like I to any
- 23:57Speaker 2: kind of heavier makeup, creams, spfs, all that stuff, which
- 24:02Speaker 2: is why I have experimented with so many different things
- 24:06Speaker 2: and why I use this stuff that I use, because
- 24:08Speaker 2: even like nighttime creams, I creams, I'll get like the
- 24:12Speaker 2: next morning. I never do an I cream because the
- 24:15Speaker 2: next morning I get like bumps.
- 24:17Speaker 1: I do too. I can't do I creams. Oh okay,
- 24:19Speaker 1: I can't do that.
- 24:20Speaker 3: What I do is I take a stick of margarine
- 24:23Speaker 3: and I just brush it under my eyes.
- 24:27Speaker 2: I like a good just sweep of vasoline.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, people.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Have used bassolina and yeah that's like an OLDI buddy goody.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I love it.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Well, you tell Whitney. I love that. Whitney is like
- 24:45Speaker 2: coming back and she's like I'm here, I'm doing Dancing
- 24:49Speaker 2: with the Stars, and she's like it's happening. And then
- 24:53Speaker 2: meanwhile she's like I'm starting my own mom talk and
- 24:56Speaker 2: she's like, I am, oh, I've never left my When
- 25:00Speaker 2: she talks to Jen, She's like I never left. It's
- 25:03Speaker 2: like what And this then it comes back to, like, Okay,
- 25:06Speaker 2: then what is mom talk? Because in Whitney's terms, like
- 25:10Speaker 2: mom talk is just like the Holy Spirit, it's just
- 25:12Speaker 2: in you, with you, through you, and you and do
- 25:15Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit, like no matter where you are, no
- 25:17Speaker 2: matter what you're doing, you're always in it. You know. Yeah,
- 25:21Speaker 2: But like, well that's according to the ladies.
- 25:24Speaker 1: The head's chasing the tail in my timeline.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Because now we're at a point where we're at the reunion,
- 25:29Speaker 3: but we're before the reunion, and at the reunion, Whitney
- 25:34Speaker 3: is still in mom talk. I'm talking last reunion. I'm like,
- 25:37Speaker 3: but she says she moved, but she's not, and she's.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Oh God, I don't don't do it for me. I can't.
- 25:45Speaker 2: I can't do it. My brain is gonna explode.
- 25:47Speaker 3: No, No, It all goes down to Whitney has to
- 25:51Speaker 3: still be in mom talk because not enough time has
- 25:54Speaker 3: passed for there to have them to have this meltdown,
- 25:57Speaker 3: and they wouldn't have had this meltdown off can so
- 26:01Speaker 3: mom talk rules.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Is she's still in mom talk? Okay, is my ruling.
- 26:06Speaker 2: I agree. I'm just agree with you on that. I
- 26:11Speaker 2: do want to before we get since we're talking about
- 26:13Speaker 2: like women's stuff. I do want to like talk about
- 26:17Speaker 2: Mikayla's situation, you know, and oh God and Macy and
- 26:24Speaker 2: how they both experienced such trauma in their lives and
- 26:28Speaker 2: Mikayla's story is so heartbreaking and what a brave woman
- 26:35Speaker 2: to be sharing this one.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Do I hope that like that was just we got
- 26:41Speaker 3: just a general EMDR session and she's actually going and
- 26:45Speaker 3: doing real e MDR stuff, you know, because I know,
- 26:48Speaker 3: like she's that, Yeah, it.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Can be really effective. So I hope that she goes
- 26:53Speaker 1: there without cameras.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and I like that thats psychologist who
- 27:00Speaker 2: does the e MDR was like, I, you know, you
- 27:03Speaker 2: should definitely go to someone who specializes in you know,
- 27:06Speaker 2: sexual trauma. So I like that she was encouraging her
- 27:10Speaker 2: to go to get to the right place to to
- 27:13Speaker 2: do that. And uh, yeah, I don't know how you
- 27:16Speaker 2: move through that. But what a brave person, what a warrior,
- 27:22Speaker 2: And it just makes me so upset. It makes me
- 27:25Speaker 2: really angry, and as I'm sure so many people when
- 27:28Speaker 2: they watch this, and her husband seems very kind, you know.
- 27:33Speaker 3: He's maybe the only husband that I actually like, Yes,
- 27:37Speaker 3: I agree, there's a real sweetness to him. Yeah, but
- 27:42Speaker 3: he almost seems like a child to me. He's so yeah,
- 27:46Speaker 3: you know, not in a way like the rest of
- 27:48Speaker 3: them seemed like a child.
- 27:49Speaker 1: He's no, like an innocence there.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he's like, can I help you with that?
- 27:54Speaker 1: Mom?
- 27:55Speaker 2: You know, it's like that kind of thing.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, don't talk down to him, But there
- 28:02Speaker 2: is that which I think is good for her. She
- 28:04Speaker 2: probably needs that type of yeah. And uh, And it
- 28:09Speaker 2: does make you feel sad because it's like, sometimes I
- 28:11Speaker 2: don't feel like my wife like loves me, you know,
- 28:13Speaker 2: and that's tough.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Hm, I felt bad for him.
- 28:18Speaker 2: So good for her and Macy is a great friend.
- 28:22Speaker 2: And I like that they can talk quite openly about this.
- 28:26Speaker 2: And she's experienced, you know, something something along the line
- 28:30Speaker 2: those lines, and wow, her her world has been rocked too.
- 28:37Speaker 2: These women have such unbelievable stories and experiences that are
- 28:42Speaker 2: that it makes me grateful that mom Talk exists because
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- 35:17Speaker 2: your own life. Like when this season started and you've
- 35:24Speaker 2: got like Mikayla and Macy showing up, you know and
- 35:28Speaker 2: doing like crappy Lake style things. You know, you like
- 35:33Speaker 2: them for who they are, and they seem like probably
- 35:37Speaker 2: the most normal of the bunch in terms of like
- 35:40Speaker 2: relatable or I was likable, okay, and then behind it
- 35:44Speaker 2: they have like these really intense you know, life struggles
- 35:48Speaker 2: and on. You know, So it's quite an amazing show
- 35:51Speaker 2: they have going here.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Well also because there's a real evolution of thought happening,
- 35:56Speaker 3: especially you can see it in real time because like
- 36:01Speaker 3: at Jordan's fucking pull side lecture that backfired in the
- 36:06Speaker 3: greatest way possible.
- 36:08Speaker 2: I agree a hundred times.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Idiot Jordan's.
- 36:16Speaker 3: They just would not let one thing ride, and and
- 36:22Speaker 3: you watch like a generation before them, like Taylor's mom
- 36:26Speaker 3: and that fucking picnic situation where the Dakota is celebrated
- 36:32Speaker 3: as a great fucking choice and then cut to mom.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Talk gals like no, no, no, dude, fuck you Yeah.
- 36:40Speaker 3: And then Jordan, it's a real generic taking accountability. So
- 36:46Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what happened off camera. It's it
- 36:50Speaker 3: was real broad strokes, and he's like, yep, yep, I know,
- 36:54Speaker 3: I know what I did, and I take accountability, like
- 36:56Speaker 3: so whatever that is.
- 36:57Speaker 1: We just know that there was verbal abuse and it
- 37:01Speaker 1: was bad. I just don't know what that is.
- 37:04Speaker 3: But they all do and they're not standing for it. No,
- 37:07Speaker 3: except for Taylor and I.
- 37:10Speaker 2: That was tough.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I deducted points from Taylor on this.
- 37:15Speaker 2: I did too at the pool side meeting. I understood
- 37:19Speaker 2: her point about Marciano, like if we can just kind
- 37:23Speaker 2: of like compartmentalize now when it comes to Marciano joining
- 37:29Speaker 2: them for dinner after the light detector test, I understand
- 37:34Speaker 2: on some level how that would not be a good idea.
- 37:38Speaker 2: If she's trying to get back with her husband Jordan,
- 37:41Speaker 2: she's filming with him exactly. They're at the bar. No, right,
- 37:46Speaker 2: because it's work. No, I get that. I get that,
- 37:48Speaker 2: But if you are talking about like they're obviously their
- 37:51Speaker 2: marriage is you know, falling apart, but like if you
- 37:54Speaker 2: really do want to stay together, you invite him for
- 37:57Speaker 2: the light detector test. But she's spending a lot of
- 38:00Speaker 2: time with him, and she's up at the bar with him,
- 38:03Speaker 2: and then then he joins them for dinner. I do
- 38:06Speaker 2: think it's very odd that she would engage in that
- 38:10Speaker 2: way on camera in the midst of having these marital troubles.
- 38:16Speaker 2: So for that, I will say it wasn't necessary, like
- 38:19Speaker 2: she didn't have to do that, but she chose to
- 38:22Speaker 2: do that, and that I think that kind of hurts
- 38:24Speaker 2: the situation. It doesn't help it.
- 38:26Speaker 1: I thought it was a non factor.
- 38:29Speaker 3: I felt like if I am the other, if I'm
- 38:33Speaker 3: Jordan and we're having a soft separation, but.
- 38:37Speaker 1: She's not living there, they're not living.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Together, right, Well, they're due two days on, two days off.
- 38:42Speaker 2: One person lives in the hotel and.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, like this is a job
- 38:48Speaker 3: they're filming. There is going to be results, wouldn't you
- 38:52Speaker 3: want to like, can you imagine that they're not all
- 38:55Speaker 3: together for the results. Marciano's not there? I mean these
- 38:59Speaker 3: were results, Like it was important to have him there
- 39:01Speaker 3: for the results.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Now did it have? Did they?
- 39:04Speaker 3: Did he have to have a fucking huge plate of
- 39:07Speaker 3: wings and be eating them in a disgusting manner?
- 39:10Speaker 2: No, Now that was uncalled for. That's going to break
- 39:13Speaker 2: down their marriage immediately.
- 39:15Speaker 1: Dude, you're on TV. No one wants to watch you
- 39:18Speaker 1: eat messy ass wings.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Yeah, you like you can't order wings on a date
- 39:24Speaker 2: or on a show. But hold on, So you're saying, like,
- 39:27Speaker 2: you know, because they they wanted to hear he needed
- 39:31Speaker 2: to be there for the results.
- 39:33Speaker 1: He needed to be there.
- 39:34Speaker 2: She didn't present it in that way. No one did.
- 39:37Speaker 1: No, she did.
- 39:39Speaker 3: She did say we got the results, we're at dinner.
- 39:41Speaker 3: We got the results at dinner, Like it did to
- 39:44Speaker 3: me anyway, ring.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Of like, I didn't feel like lost that day.
- 39:49Speaker 2: He needed to be there for the results in order
- 39:51Speaker 2: to She didn't.
- 39:52Speaker 1: She didn't say those exactly.
- 39:54Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying because I that wasn't clear to me.
- 39:57Speaker 2: If if she would have presented it that way there,
- 40:00Speaker 2: it may not have been as big of a problem
- 40:01Speaker 2: because like it was like, oh, you should join us
- 40:05Speaker 2: for dinner. It was way more casual anyway. I guess
- 40:09Speaker 2: what I'm saying is I do see I see a
- 40:13Speaker 2: little bit of wiggle room with the why is he
- 40:15Speaker 2: now hanging out with you at the bar and you
- 40:17Speaker 2: guys are talking and now this is going to be
- 40:18Speaker 2: on film and you're just chatting it up like no
- 40:20Speaker 2: big deal so that I can see, all right, but
- 40:24Speaker 2: you know, I could see that negotiable in people's opinions.
- 40:28Speaker 2: So I'm not even gonna like die on that hill,
- 40:31Speaker 2: all right, but the fact that I could just murder
- 40:36Speaker 2: this guy, you know, like he is the epitome of
- 40:42Speaker 2: a misogynistic, manipulative narcissist who is putting it all on
- 40:51Speaker 2: the woman and not taking any ownership at all.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Also inviting her all her clothes friend slash coworkers over
- 41:03Speaker 3: without her so that he can say, Yay, that is
- 41:07Speaker 3: why you should be on my side.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like that reminds me of like Louis, like
- 41:11Speaker 2: a Louis kind of thing. You know, you think that
- 41:13Speaker 2: you've got this type of because you have so much
- 41:16Speaker 2: to say when they had their sit down. Wow, well,
- 41:21Speaker 2: first let me backtrack and say the exact things that
- 41:24Speaker 2: she told the girls about how Jordan treats her when
- 41:28Speaker 2: they were in the matching pajamas. You know they're still
- 41:30Speaker 2: in like Saint George or whatever. This was such a
- 41:33Speaker 2: huge eye opener because this was a bomb drop. No
- 41:37Speaker 2: one knew that he was like this in their marriage.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Nobody knew, so like for her to be like, I'm
- 41:43Speaker 2: done protecting him. For her to say there hasn't been
- 41:46Speaker 2: a day in three years where they haven't had a
- 41:49Speaker 2: fight is so horrific to me, and like thinking, how
- 41:53Speaker 2: have you guys not not already gotten divorced already? Like
- 41:56Speaker 2: these poor kids. Then he is constantly saying she doesn't
- 42:01Speaker 2: do anything right, from parenting to laundry. She's the only
- 42:05Speaker 2: one doing the housework, but he has a problem with
- 42:07Speaker 2: how she does it, this fucking guy.
- 42:10Speaker 1: And then she's supporting them.
- 42:12Speaker 2: And that's exactly And I love how she acknowledged that
- 42:16Speaker 2: she was so she had I could tell she had
- 42:19Speaker 2: a really hard time like getting that out, because that
- 42:21Speaker 2: was a huge thing. She's like, so he has a
- 42:23Speaker 2: lot of resentment about that. I was very brave of
- 42:25Speaker 2: her to finally admit that this guy can't handle it.
- 42:30Speaker 2: And now he is name calling her, he's yelling at her,
- 42:35Speaker 2: he's talking down to her, and I like.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Because he's finally got clout and I'm not talking mom
- 42:41Speaker 3: talk cloud. He's finally has something up on her, and
- 42:43Speaker 3: that is that she cheated on him.
- 42:45Speaker 2: But for three years he's been doing this though.
- 42:48Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 42:49Speaker 3: You think he's ever going to drop the cheating thing
- 42:51Speaker 3: because now he finally has a one up on her
- 42:53Speaker 3: because she's been all of the best things. He totally
- 42:58Speaker 3: needs her, and now he's like, finally I can demonize.
- 43:02Speaker 2: You even worse.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Yeah, like and it's actually legit and.
- 43:07Speaker 2: It's actually legit. Dumb brain, his dumb brain when he
- 43:10Speaker 2: was sitting on that couch just reading her the Riot
- 43:12Speaker 2: Act about how this is justified. You know, you need
- 43:16Speaker 2: to take ownership and all this stuff, like I just
- 43:19Speaker 2: can't you know, you could see how her, her inner
- 43:23Speaker 2: like character was just wilting and then like going inward, inward, inward,
- 43:28Speaker 2: and inward inward, and how they got to where they are,
- 43:31Speaker 2: like you can't stay, you not be in a relationship
- 43:34Speaker 2: for that long, for three years, with someone making you
- 43:37Speaker 2: feel like shit all that time, and not ever thinking
- 43:40Speaker 2: that they're not going to go try to find, you know,
- 43:42Speaker 2: love and attention somewhere else.
- 43:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're going to hear more about that
- 43:48Speaker 3: marriage and really what was going on. I think there's
- 43:50Speaker 3: all that she's being protective of him for the kid's sake,
- 43:55Speaker 3: because her mom, her family doesn't like him. Remember they
- 43:59Speaker 3: were like, we're glad that she was getting separated.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Like when they brought her when they were leaving with Yeah, yeah,
- 44:07Speaker 2: he was the way he was just ripping her down
- 44:12Speaker 2: to shreds on camera. I couldn't believe this guy. That
- 44:17Speaker 2: just goes to show how delusional he is to think that, oh, yeah,
- 44:21Speaker 2: the world will see that I'm right because of what
- 44:24Speaker 2: she did. And for him to continue to bring up
- 44:26Speaker 2: like your kids are going to see this, you know,
- 44:30Speaker 2: you want your kids to see you on TV with
- 44:33Speaker 2: like the person that you cheated on me with or whatever.
- 44:36Speaker 2: And she's like, well, I'm going to tell them the truth.
- 44:39Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that's fucking right. You're gonna
- 44:42Speaker 2: tell them the truth. You're gonna tell them the truth.
- 44:44Speaker 2: When they're old enough to know what a dick he is.
- 44:47Speaker 2: But also they're gonna see it. They won't even need
- 44:50Speaker 2: to know the truth. They're gonna be like, well, I
- 44:52Speaker 2: get it at some point, you know, it doesn't matter.
- 44:55Speaker 2: When he brought up the thing about the kids, I'm
- 44:58Speaker 2: usually pretty like, yeah, like, let's not do this on
- 45:01Speaker 2: camera because you're kids, you know, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 45:05Speaker 2: this situation, I was like, don't care. I don't care.
- 45:09Speaker 2: I really didn't, and that's pretty unusual, like you want
- 45:12Speaker 2: to like protect the kids. But also I'm like, no,
- 45:15Speaker 2: go to vander pump Villa again. You know, I can
- 45:18Speaker 2: bring the kids with you. That's how much I can't
- 45:20Speaker 2: stand this guy.
- 45:22Speaker 3: Also, ps, Marciano couldn't be a bigger piece of shit.
- 45:27Speaker 3: So I don't want her to run into the arms
- 45:29Speaker 3: of Marciano either. I just want her away from Jordan.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and both of them.
- 45:34Speaker 3: I don't know how you can watch one season of
- 45:36Speaker 3: vander pump Villa with Marciano and be like this is
- 45:39Speaker 3: a catch.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, no, yeah is that this is
- 45:42Speaker 2: a ladies man who knows how to say the right things,
- 45:44Speaker 2: and she's so far gone from being treated well that
- 45:48Speaker 2: that anything is going to be something to her.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Right.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 45:53Speaker 3: I also like I don't need any more scenes of
- 45:57Speaker 3: dad talk.
- 45:59Speaker 1: It's it.
- 46:00Speaker 3: It's like reversing mentally, like where the mom talk is
- 46:04Speaker 3: evolving dad talks, Like, we need to make sure these
- 46:08Speaker 3: ladies know mom talks. Got to talk to dad talk
- 46:11Speaker 3: and learn a lesson. Yeah, like far from what you
- 46:15Speaker 3: exist because of their fucking blood, sweat and tears, you jackasses.
- 46:20Speaker 2: This is but I don't want it to stop. I
- 46:22Speaker 2: we got them in a moment to film this season
- 46:28Speaker 2: where they don't know better, and unfortunately, now moving forward,
- 46:32Speaker 2: they're gonna know because they're gonna hear. Yes, they're living
- 46:37Speaker 2: in this bubble right of where they think that this
- 46:41Speaker 2: philosophy is the right way to live and the way
- 46:45Speaker 2: to treat women.
- 46:46Speaker 3: But Zach was leading that charge, and he actually had
- 46:50Speaker 3: been impressing me lately, and then you.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Get him with all those fucking dudes and he's an idiot.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I was really disappointed in Zach. I
- 46:58Speaker 2: kept looking at him wondering what's he gonna do, What's
- 47:01Speaker 2: he gonna do? I was like, please be our beacon
- 47:03Speaker 2: of light. Please be the only guy that has seen
- 47:06Speaker 2: the light because of what you and Jen have been
- 47:08Speaker 2: through and lead this lead these guys, and he couldn't
- 47:12Speaker 2: do it. Unfortunately. That was a bummer. So I don't
- 47:18Speaker 2: think we're going to get scenes like that anymore, unfortunately,
- 47:24Speaker 2: but we needed to see it for what it is.
- 47:26Speaker 2: It's like we got invited into this secret club of
- 47:30Speaker 2: toxic men and we were able to sit there and
- 47:33Speaker 2: listen to what they really say because they were saying
- 47:35Speaker 2: I'm sure they say a lot worse, but like they
- 47:38Speaker 2: were fine, was saying everything about how it should be.
- 47:43Speaker 3: They were they were being presentation. They thought they were
- 47:47Speaker 3: nailing it.
- 47:47Speaker 2: Oh they because the camera they were like, we got that.
- 47:51Speaker 2: This is like a men's retreat, you know absolutely, That's
- 47:56Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like they will will never see that
- 47:58Speaker 2: again because they are going to get roasted and they'll
- 48:02Speaker 2: never do that on camera again. They'll do it off
- 48:05Speaker 2: their thinks. I hope they do, because it shows what
- 48:10Speaker 2: kind of antiquated life that they are living in, so
- 48:13Speaker 2: that there can be evolution and be some sort of
- 48:17Speaker 2: growth in that area and community. When you've got these
- 48:20Speaker 2: women who are sticking up and actually being modern in
- 48:23Speaker 2: their thinking.
- 48:24Speaker 3: I think that those guys are surrounded by an entire
- 48:29Speaker 3: community of like people like Taylor's mom, and so they're
- 48:34Speaker 3: going to definitely listen to their own wives of mom
- 48:37Speaker 3: talk because mom talk is a juggernaut. But I think
- 48:43Speaker 3: the day to day, like, look at Dakota, like he's
- 48:46Speaker 3: still things set.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, he's in the right all the time.
- 48:53Speaker 1: And he is sometimes I'll give him sometimes, but ninety
- 48:56Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time, I'm like, Dakota,
- 48:59Speaker 1: shut up. Was great with no one wanted to hug him?
- 49:03Speaker 2: Wait, you know? Also what was so good when.
- 49:05Speaker 1: They showed up?
- 49:06Speaker 2: Yes, Wayla walked in and she's like, it's so weird
- 49:10Speaker 2: to be here without Jesse. Did you pay her an
- 49:12Speaker 2: hourly right to rent it out? She just went up
- 49:18Speaker 2: and stock for me, like I can't even there's no
- 49:22Speaker 2: there's no going back, there's she could do no wrong
- 49:25Speaker 2: for me. At this point, she has my absolute loyalty
- 49:29Speaker 2: from moving forward because I'll always remember that that that
- 49:32Speaker 2: that had to cut so deep. She roasted him so
- 49:35Speaker 2: hard instead of everyone, and there.
- 49:38Speaker 3: Was not even an edit that in that moment, Jordan's like,
- 49:41Speaker 3: all right, let's go outside.
- 49:42Speaker 1: It's time for my talk. Pull side chat.
- 49:47Speaker 2: Like as She's like like, no, okay, ding ding ding,
- 49:51Speaker 2: I have an announcement.
- 49:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 49:54Speaker 2: So and then those fucking twinning muscle tees, those black
- 49:58Speaker 2: muscle ties and those hats. The rage was coming back.
- 50:03Speaker 2: I was like, I need to up my prescription because
- 50:08Speaker 2: these guys.
- 50:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:12Speaker 2: Yeah, so his speech was disgusting, and the way that
- 50:17Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, Dakota, they were talking about Dakota,
- 50:22Speaker 2: and Macy's like no, no, no, no, it's not the
- 50:25Speaker 2: same thing because she took accountability and Dakota lied for years.
- 50:31Speaker 3: You know.
- 50:31Speaker 2: It's like they're trying to put oh, if this happened
- 50:35Speaker 2: to you, if the roles were you know, they've been
- 50:38Speaker 2: going over this and going over this and.
- 50:41Speaker 3: Yeah, and for by the way, Jen and Zach to
- 50:43Speaker 3: come in, they're like, this is the same thing as
- 50:46Speaker 3: the Chippendales. Oh, and the guys were like this is
- 50:49Speaker 3: too soon to argue with them.
- 50:51Speaker 1: This is not anything like that.
- 50:53Speaker 2: Jordan was like, uh, excuse me, no, actually it's not
- 50:56Speaker 2: at all like that, because this one was way worse.
- 50:59Speaker 2: She cheated and I was like, go suck it. I
- 51:03Speaker 2: love it's the same thing.
- 51:06Speaker 3: And then the event within two seconds, because nobody wanted
- 51:09Speaker 3: to argue with Jen and Zach. They were like, oh yeah, no,
- 51:13Speaker 3: right in that way that you're all humans that is, yeah,
- 51:17Speaker 3: you're right, same thing, human beings in a room.
- 51:21Speaker 1: That's it. You got the same situation.
- 51:24Speaker 2: That was great. We know real quick, what is what
- 51:27Speaker 2: about the whole When at the farm day and Whitney
- 51:30Speaker 2: shows up for the first time to the group, right,
- 51:33Speaker 2: and Jen and Whitney have a sit down and Whitney
- 51:36Speaker 2: was like, you know, Jen's like, you were the only
- 51:38Speaker 2: one there for me when this all went down.
- 51:41Speaker 1: That was at Miranda's birthday at the arcade.
- 51:45Speaker 2: Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, I was.
- 51:48Speaker 3: Like, Whitney was at the farm You're thinking that because
- 51:50Speaker 3: Whitney's wearing a cowboy hat.
- 51:52Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 51:53Speaker 1: You know.
- 51:54Speaker 2: You know what it was is that Jen said it
- 51:56Speaker 2: at the farm day. They didn't have this Oh yeah.
- 51:59Speaker 2: She just said like Whitney was the only one there
- 52:01Speaker 2: for her. But then after Jen left mom Talk, Jen
- 52:05Speaker 2: never heard from Whitney again. That's right. She said it
- 52:07Speaker 2: in a confessional And then she became best friends with Demi.
- 52:12Speaker 2: So when they have that conversation and Whitney is telling
- 52:17Speaker 2: a completely different story, She's like, yeah, and after you
- 52:19Speaker 2: ghosted me. I'm like, I don't believe you one bit.
- 52:23Speaker 2: I just don't. I know, I don't.
- 52:26Speaker 1: I know, I don't either.
- 52:27Speaker 3: And the fact that Whitney can know everything that went
- 52:31Speaker 3: down with Demi and Jesse and think that Demi is
- 52:34Speaker 3: who she should stand behind. Oh and Jen is laying
- 52:37Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, I mean probably everybody but me knows this.
- 52:42Speaker 3: But I do wonder did Whitney and Jen become friendly
- 52:47Speaker 3: again when they're both in La Daning Dancing with the Stars.
- 52:51Speaker 2: I wonder if that, I mean the great question they
- 52:55Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, yeah, that's a great question.
- 52:58Speaker 1: Think, Oh my god, thank you.
- 53:00Speaker 3: There's probably there's already a million answers to that question asked.
- 53:03Speaker 2: But we're living in We're living in mom talk, you know,
- 53:07Speaker 2: episode three through four, So that's kind of where we
- 53:10Speaker 2: need to stay.
- 53:13Speaker 1: Nope.
- 53:14Speaker 2: But you know, it is a bummer because that moment
- 53:18Speaker 2: that they had, even though it was set up, you know,
- 53:21Speaker 2: where Whitney was there for Jen. It did seem really
- 53:24Speaker 2: nice that she was there for her. But yeah, she
- 53:27Speaker 2: didn't really care enough to follow up with her in
- 53:30Speaker 2: her journey, and that's disappointing.
- 53:33Speaker 1: That is disappointing, and that is where the real Whitney
- 53:35Speaker 1: comes in.
- 53:36Speaker 3: It was to Taylor's point, you know, I would still
- 53:41Speaker 3: pick Whitney over Demi a thousand times because something seems
- 53:48Speaker 3: to not connect where Whitney I'll tell you exactly.
- 53:51Speaker 1: What the plan is.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, even.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Though you hate the plan. Demi is like, I don't
- 53:57Speaker 3: even understand where.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Things connect either.
- 54:00Speaker 2: But the fact that at this hydro event where they
- 54:05Speaker 2: weren't supposed to be shooting, the fact that Taylor was like, mom, sister,
- 54:11Speaker 2: get on your phones and start filming, and that these
- 54:15Speaker 2: gals were all like, oh, Demi's here, pickup pick up
- 54:18Speaker 2: phones and they brought it. You know, two seconds into it.
- 54:23Speaker 2: They were texting producers like, Demi is here, don't worry,
- 54:26Speaker 2: We're on it. We're totally filming like they are. So
- 54:29Speaker 2: you know they would if they were on that plane
- 54:30Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City with Meredith, there would be eight
- 54:34Speaker 2: different angles and Meredith would have had a lava leer
- 54:37Speaker 2: mic on. You know what I'm saying. For sure, they
- 54:39Speaker 2: are professionals. So I love that they got all that
- 54:43Speaker 2: footage that was unbelievable.
- 54:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and often the case in what we get in Housewives.
- 54:50Speaker 3: When they're not cameras, we get somebody filming them soling cities.
- 54:54Speaker 2: So anyway, but they had multiple angles Emila.
- 54:58Speaker 3: Like they didn't usually to mike her because the phones
- 55:01Speaker 3: were so close to her.
- 55:03Speaker 2: And they probably had like mics on the phone.
- 55:05Speaker 1: They probably had a whole influencers.
- 55:07Speaker 2: Yes, like the I was so blown away by that.
- 55:11Speaker 2: I forgot that this was even their footage. That's how
- 55:13Speaker 2: good it was. I was like, well, these producers don't
- 55:16Speaker 2: even need to be there anymore, Like, forget the camera crew.
- 55:18Speaker 2: They can save on budget and pay Whitney what she
- 55:20Speaker 2: wants because they don't need this.
- 55:24Speaker 3: You know what I had the thought of is it's
- 55:27Speaker 3: and it's still the audio quality is better than a
- 55:30Speaker 3: muffled current vander Pump rules.
- 55:32Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on about audio.
- 55:34Speaker 2: I know that's really weird. I mean, it's so loud
- 55:37Speaker 2: in those bars, but like, still, they need to figure that.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Out something, because these gals Mom talk figured it out.
- 55:44Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure did. But they're also not in a
- 55:48Speaker 2: loud bar. They're usually in influencer events or in someone's
- 55:52Speaker 2: really bright living room.
- 55:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, because you and I had the
- 55:57Speaker 3: theory that vander Pump Rules wasn't wearing loves but mics.
- 56:00Speaker 1: But they're wearing mics. I don't know what it is because.
- 56:03Speaker 2: I couldn't tell, but I believe you.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Oh, I was looking this, Yeah, I was like, what
- 56:08Speaker 1: is going on? Audio?
- 56:11Speaker 3: But I like, but anyway, I do love I am
- 56:13Speaker 3: loving vander Pump Rules, but I really appreciate, appreciated the
- 56:18Speaker 3: audio quality.
- 56:19Speaker 1: On Demi not miked in a party situation.
- 56:22Speaker 2: I like that long shot of Demi just like doing
- 56:25Speaker 2: the throwing her hands down to her her vijj and
- 56:29Speaker 2: just being like, how was it fuck Marciano twice? And
- 56:33Speaker 2: for Jesse to clock exactly what she said that she mouthed.
- 56:38Speaker 2: I was very impressed that she was able to She's like,
- 56:41Speaker 2: she just said, how could you have done that when
- 56:43Speaker 2: you slept with Marciano two times up in at vander
- 56:47Speaker 2: Palm Villa and then lie about it? That's what she said.
- 56:50Speaker 2: I saw her mouth that, you know, like that was
- 56:52Speaker 2: how complicated? It was like, Wow, you guys are really
- 56:55Speaker 2: good at this.
- 56:56Speaker 3: Why didn't Layla say something about the light detector test
- 57:00Speaker 3: in that one on one?
- 57:01Speaker 1: Maybe because I was.
- 57:02Speaker 2: She must not be allowed to it must have been
- 57:05Speaker 2: cut out because they brought up light detector.
- 57:08Speaker 3: And then they said, she doesn't know about the light detector.
- 57:11Speaker 2: She doesn't know about the light detector results or they
- 57:15Speaker 2: think that she doesn't know about it, but I'm sure
- 57:17Speaker 2: she does from producers and she obviously knew in that conversation.
- 57:21Speaker 2: It just hadn't gotten back to them yet because they
- 57:24Speaker 2: because then what a Demi said like, I'll take a
- 57:26Speaker 2: light detector or was it Leila that said like that,
- 57:29Speaker 2: well then you need to take a light detector. Somebody
- 57:31Speaker 2: said it to Demie.
- 57:33Speaker 3: You, Yeah, can you explain to me to like the
- 57:37Speaker 3: NDA thing, because like I was trying to figure that
- 57:39Speaker 3: out with with Demi when when she's like, I'm gonna
- 57:43Speaker 3: go live right now and.
- 57:44Speaker 1: The producers walked out and she.
- 57:47Speaker 3: Doesn't have a contract and and Jesse's like, she signed
- 57:51Speaker 3: an NDA, she can't go do that. And then we
- 57:53Speaker 3: see the producer walk out to Demi's car to say,
- 57:55Speaker 3: you can't go live you.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Signed an NDA, And I'm like, well, how long? How
- 58:01Speaker 1: good is how long is that NDA good for? Like
- 58:03Speaker 1: eventually you know what I mean?
- 58:06Speaker 3: Unless she signed it to be filmed when she showed
- 58:09Speaker 3: up and just filmed for free.
- 58:12Speaker 1: I don't know, do you know what I'm talking about?
- 58:15Speaker 2: Like three, Yeah, you're saying, like, how would she have
- 58:19Speaker 2: had an NDA if she wasn't technically filming, she wouldn't
- 58:24Speaker 2: have she wouldn't have signed all the paperwork. Is that
- 58:26Speaker 2: what you're saying?
- 58:26Speaker 3: Right for the current season, I could see if she
- 58:29Speaker 3: had an NDA.
- 58:29Speaker 1: For what she had done prior.
- 58:31Speaker 2: So I think, well, that's a that's a great question,
- 58:34Speaker 2: and I will speak to this. My guess is that
- 58:39Speaker 2: before she went into that event, they actually had her
- 58:44Speaker 2: sign something literally in the parking.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Lot, probably right because she wasn't blurred.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Out exactly and maybe she wasn't like miked up or
- 58:52Speaker 2: maybe this that and the other thing, but they were like,
- 58:54Speaker 2: in order to go in there, like every you have
- 58:56Speaker 2: to sign this sign.
- 58:57Speaker 1: Yes.
- 58:58Speaker 2: I remember when I was doing like I had, I
- 59:00Speaker 2: was doing this sketch show right for MTV, and my
- 59:05Speaker 2: entertainment attorney was going back and forth with them about this,
- 59:10Speaker 2: that and the other thing, and it wasn't like that
- 59:12Speaker 2: big of a deal, but they had not they had
- 59:18Speaker 2: not like agreed upon it yet, so I wasn't supposed
- 59:23Speaker 2: to sign the contract right. It had lasted so long
- 59:27Speaker 2: up until the day that we were shooting, like we
- 59:29Speaker 2: were supposed to start shooting, like I'm on set. My
- 59:32Speaker 2: call time was like five am. I'm in here and makeup.
- 59:36Speaker 2: I'm in the trailer and they're like, we have to
- 59:39Speaker 2: bring you to set now. And my lawyer specifically was like,
- 59:42Speaker 2: do not go to set, do not sign anything. And
- 59:46Speaker 2: I was in the worst fucking situation. It was awful
- 59:50Speaker 2: because they're coming up to me going, Okay, you have
- 59:52Speaker 2: to sign this now because we can't let you set
- 59:54Speaker 2: until you sign it. And I was like I was
- 59:55Speaker 2: told not to sign this and it's like seven am.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Terrible at that shit, or was well it makes sense, yeah,
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: And it was seven am. The the MTV lawyers weren't
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: up yet. You know, my lawyer's not up yet. The
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: producer's on set, the director's on set, everyone's waiting, and
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, and I'm like this little actress
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: trying to like just make a buck in a stupid
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: grocery store sketch. I can't go and film it because
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: so finally I just fucking signed it and I was like,
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: let's do this because I was like I can't.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: I'm not so what's going to happen is that director's
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: gonna be like I don't want to work with.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: Any exactly exactly.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: So I went out there and I said to I
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: said to the director, I'm like, I'm so sorry. I
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: I like, I'm like, I signed it my lawyer, you know,
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: I'm like, they told me not to sign it, but
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: I'm like I can't. That's why I'm here because like,
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: and so I made sure he knew. He's like, I
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: totally understand this happens, and like I get it so
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: and it was awful like that that kind of stress
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: is just like that lawyer has put me through so
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: much shit, Like the same exact thing happened. I wasn't
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: supposed to go to a table read because shit wasn't signed,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: and I was like on the sony lot in the elevator,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: I was like it, can I can I get off?
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Like can I go to this table ree? Can I
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: do this? Can I do this? And they're like no, no, no,
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: And sure enough, I fucking showed up because I'm like,
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: I don't give a shit, I'm going to show up
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: for this table read. I'm doing this and not to
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: mention like there was another guy that was part of
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: this other sketch show that I'm talking about, not the
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: same one, the other I know, the shoot him. Yeah
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: it was uh he he told me later when we
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: ended up filming it. It didn't like it was a pilot, right,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: And he was like, he has the same lawyer, and
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, that's why I didn't show up that day.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: It's a different one. And then he's like, I didn't
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: show up that day because he told me not to.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: I'm like, well I fucking did because I'm like he's
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: put me through it. Yea, anyway, okay, But.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's like, also, I
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: hate to say it, but this guy that has the
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: lawyer that's saying hold off, that guy would have probably
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: been fine.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: You would have been a difficult lady to work with.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: M That's exactly right we are, did you see.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: This is a little bit of a left term.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: But Christen Stewart the other day was being interviewed and
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: I'm not like a Christin Stewart fan one way or
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: the other, but I like her. But she was being
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: interviewed and she's like, name one female method actor. You
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: can't be because you would be thought of as a
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: crazy bitch basically is what she was saying. I'm paraphrasing wow,
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: because the director was like Marlon Brando and all these people,
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: and she's.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Like, yeah, name one besides like stella ad, you know,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: like you taught it. There aren't any and there's never been.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: That's such a great point. Yeah, Yeah, who's the actor
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: you know, there will be blood my left foot, Daniel
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: da Lewis, Thank you, Daniel da Lewis. So he's like,
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: you know, probably one of the bigger method actors that
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: we always here about, right, you knowh my god, like
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: there will be blood. He lived like he was in
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: oil tycoon for six months in.
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: These Abraham Lincoln yeakin. He lived in the theater for
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: a while and wore a hat to bed.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: You know, it's like he he he lost fifty three
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: thousand pounds in order to the answer to.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: His name, you had to call him abe, right right, right? Yeah.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they're like Meryl Streep cut her
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: hair before shooting and was practicing her accent in grocery stores,
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: what is a psycho?
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: You know, you are so right. That is such a
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: great point. I never thought of that, She.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Said, it. I had never thought of it.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: Christen Stewart Stewart, Yeah, and.
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, but like it was basically like she didn't
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: say it as harsh as I did, but she's like
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: name one, like you know, it's not it's not a thing.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: So yeah, oh it's so.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: The So anyway, talk's awesome. Okay. So they're at that
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: event with the filmed footage of their own the DIY footage,
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: which was amazing, and you know, Demi is telling Leila
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: that's not true. She fed Marciano and this twice thing
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: is interesting because we've never heard about that. And Layla's like, well,
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: I'm choosing to stay by Jesse, and Demi's like, oh,
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: so you're going to be an ignorant, stupid, motherfucking dumb, idiot,
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: stupid And I'm like, oh, you make friends, You make
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: friends really well, so keep going with that.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: That was crazy.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: It was crazy.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: It was like every way you look at it, you're
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: just like, you are such a bully dude. What are
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah?
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: I like I was just gonna say, this's just like
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: any bully situation anyway ever been in.
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: I had like a flashback in the moment where I
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: was like, oh God, get away from this girl.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: Yeah, she did a pretty good job at standing her ground,
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: and Leila did not do me right Layla, and then
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: of course Jesse, you know, she lost her shit and
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: I probably would too. But Taylor's like, stay in your power,
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: stay in your power. I'm the leader of mom talks.
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: Stay in your power, you know, because she's she's fresh
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: off this retreat, you know, and she is like, oh,
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: but I got to say.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: When she was saying that to her, that would have
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: done the opposite for me, because I would.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: Have her tone and everything I was reading it is
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: like keep going, keep going, keep going, give it to her,
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: keep screaming. Like about Taylor's tone, I was like, I
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: would read that as opposite.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I would read that as keep it, keep going. Yeah,
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: like doing great boxing coach Shere in the corner, they're
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: squirting you down.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: Stay in your power, this is great, You're pod. We'll
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: keep screaming, go go right, I need a stop stop.
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's funny. Miranda Miranda's blonde birthday, Whitney shows
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: up not in a blond wig, but her husband does.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: I loved it. He was putting in his time, and
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: he was like he's basically trying to keep it cool
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: so that they can keep this train moving. And he's like,
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: great to see everybody, all Right, have a great day,
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: love you to see you. Hope we can get together.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: He on his way out, he was like trying to
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: be the mayor and it made me laugh really hard.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: I do feel a little bit bad for him because
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: he has recently come out at that point about.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: His sexual abuse. Oh yeah, and really bonded with the group. Yeah,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: and now he's like kind of ripped away from it.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: So I did. I did feel bad for him.
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. You're right, Yeah, that's
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: a good point. Yeah, one of the things that oh
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: you kind of already talked about that. Never mind. Okay, Well,
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: is there anything else that we've missed here?
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I did.
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: I thought it Jamie with Jordan at the pool because
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: he's so unlikable Jordan, I was like, he's going to
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: get Marciano a snowflake.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: That's what I kept thinking of, Like when yeah.
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: Meredith was so drunk on the flight and handling this
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: thing so poorly, She's going to get Britney a snowflake.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: That's how off she was.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: Like the Jordan's so bad and unlikable because he get
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: from Utah and Marciano's gonna fly in and pick it up.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: Yeahfore it hits the ground.
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: Like he's going to get Marciano cast it on this show.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: Like that is how awful Jordan is getting.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: He's a hop skipping a jump away. I don't know
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: where he is, I don't know where he lives, I
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: don't know what he's doing, but he seems to have
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: no problem driving down, driving over, driving up whatever. Yeah
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: he's gonna show up. Yeah, but listen, I think that
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: Mom Talk could learn a lot from Dad Talk, and
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: that's my resting case.
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: Agree, agree to agree, Yes, dad talk is a leader.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: They thought that they could get these gals together and
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: be like, how come, how could you let Marciano have
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: dinner with you? You need to be better women. That
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: is so funny to me. I love that they hand
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: his ass to him.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: I know, and I hope that when Jordan sees the
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: close ups of Marciano eating those wings, he realizes there
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: was nothing sexual about this event.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: It was disgusting, Yeah, it really was Okay, one more thing,
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: the oh Layla's hair extensions, that was wild. I mean,
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: just the cultural deficiency of black people in Utah is
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: wild to understand, and so it's not.
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: Hard to understand when you're like the Mormon Church like yeah, yeah,
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: didn't allow for it, and that is most of Utah.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. It's just I'm glad that they, you know,
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: when they film the show, they're not skirting around important
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: issues for us to take a look at and expose.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed watching the journey of that and
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Leila. I'm like, oh my god,
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: your hair is like falling out. This is awful. And
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: I thought that Jesse, the way that she handled it
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: was really good because she was like, you know, I
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: wasn't even you know, I wasn't really taught that in
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: my training, which is like obviously a problem there, and
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: I want to learn and let me see what she did.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: And yeah, I couldn't believe that Jesse and her salon
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: couldn't see Laylah's hair loss. She's in there all the
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: time and put it together that like we shouldn't not
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: do this.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: That was a really good point. That's a great point.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: It is really unsettling to think that they continue to
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: put those in her hair, and then that she wasn't like,
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: maybe you should take a break, because like, let's work
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: on getting your hair a little more healthy. Yeah, it's concerning, and.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: Layla is like, I can't take a break.
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: After three weeks, I fly out and Kathy Hilton rips
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: them out of my head and then I come back here.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: I pay Kathy Hilton to take out my extensions at
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: a party.
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny. Well all right, so then we're just
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: gonna keep going with these episodes. See where we land.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: You know, we're in a mom talk time capsule. Who
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: knows what's gonna happen next?
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: Well, everybody does it except for us. So thanks for listening, guys,
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: have a good rest of the weekend. Goodbye bye, Goodbye
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: Drama Darling.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Drama Darling.