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INTERVIEW: Nick Grant Talks 'Smile,' Bars & Books,' J.I.D,. TDE. Interest In Screenwriting + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day clicks.
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  Speaker 2: Up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: I'm finished for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. Law La Roses here as well.
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  Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building. His new
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  Speaker 4: album Smile is out now. Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Graham, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: House today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first time you got a four house.
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  Speaker 3: About halfway remember and he came back again.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right, But no, Laura
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  Speaker 1: wasn't here in the all thing.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren wasn't here.
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  Speaker 1: How are you my brother?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good man, It couldn't be better.
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  Speaker 5: First track on the album is called another Classic. What
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  Speaker 5: defines a classic?
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  Speaker 1: Can you? Can you say that you got a classic?
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't. That's just it was sarcasm in the title,
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  Speaker 2: just because of my you know, my my, my two
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  Speaker 2: e piece. Two albums before that was the Sunday Dinner album,
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  Speaker 2: so you know that was like, you know, my magnum
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  Speaker 2: opus into the game, and you know, people like really
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  Speaker 2: respecting that I can make a body of work. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was just sarcasm, just to play on words.
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  Speaker 6: My first time. That's fire.
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  Speaker 2: That's track masters to some of my favorite producers. They
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  Speaker 2: did that joint too.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, are you now the title of the album smile?
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  Speaker 6: Are you telling the world to smile or are you
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  Speaker 6: talking about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling myself to smile because last year was very,
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  Speaker 2: very hectic, a lot of a lot of ups and downs.
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  Speaker 2: Last year. I lost three people last year, a sister,
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  Speaker 2: my cousin, young school, I don't know people school, and
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  Speaker 2: I lost the childhood friends. So it was like me
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  Speaker 2: going through that and still having to navigate the business.
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  Speaker 2: Just staying sharp was related.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny. I mean, I know both you'all from Walter.
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  Speaker 2: Bro Yeah, everybody related.
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  Speaker 5: It's so small, young and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up with school. Wow wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 7: What got you through those times? I mean, because now
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  Speaker 7: you're at the point where you can smile?
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  Speaker 6: Or can you? Or is that I can?
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  Speaker 2: I can for sure?
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  Speaker 6: So what got you?
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  Speaker 1: You know through that?
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  Speaker 6: Because back to back, three losses back to back, Yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Well, prayer number one, family, just having you know, close
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  Speaker 2: tight knit family and therapy for sure.
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  Speaker 7: That's And are you talking about it like your loss
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  Speaker 7: and going through it on the album?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, My sister being like the main person
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  Speaker 2: who was like she moved me to Atlanta. She came
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  Speaker 2: to get me from my grandma. She moved me to Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, that was like, you know, my mother didn't
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  Speaker 2: raise me, so that was like my mother figures, so
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  Speaker 2: it was like super close, you know. So yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know that's and that stuff is like very difficult to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, but you know, I just feel like somebody
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  Speaker 2: in the world, older, young is going through the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it'll be criminal for me to not speak
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: And that the image you have on your page, because
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  Speaker 3: I see a woman that.
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  Speaker 5: You think you could have did this when you was younger,
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  Speaker 5: Like like when you listen to your younger self rap,
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  Speaker 5: Like what do you hear now that you couldn't hear
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  Speaker 5: in Could you even be that emotionally vulnerable man?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question. No, I couldn't. That came with time.
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  Speaker 2: That came with time and just experiences that you know,
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  Speaker 2: even if I went through the same shit, I just
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't process it the same way, just because I just
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you live life different trial, trial and error,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of figure out how to navigate and deal
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  Speaker 2: with these different emotions and you know, having conversations with
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  Speaker 2: older people and they telling you, you know, how to
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  Speaker 2: navigate those things, and again therapy.
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  Speaker 5: I always wonder when you are able to express those
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  Speaker 5: things on an album, but then you got to go
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  Speaker 5: do come do things like this? Yeah, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like one, definitely, I'm sure it's easy.
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  Speaker 2: It Yeah, yeah, nah, I love it, man, I you know,
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I take it. I take it on
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  Speaker 2: the chin, even if I don't want to do these
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  Speaker 2: things and I'm going through it and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk certain days, I don't want to talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, it's just part of the game. It's
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  Speaker 2: part of the business. So to take it whatever comes
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, A good thing about that is there's always somebody
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  Speaker 4: dealing with the same thing for sure that it want
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  Speaker 4: it looks up to you and they don't know how
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  Speaker 4: to deal with it. So when they see somebody that
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  Speaker 4: they look up to or somebody that's outspoken, so it's
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  Speaker 4: always a good feeling of I'm not the only one.
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  Speaker 2: Right and I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry. My mentality
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  Speaker 2: has always been to just lift as you climb. Once
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  Speaker 2: you get in a position, whether it's financially, spiritually, emotionally,
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  Speaker 2: and you kind of see somebody going through something, kind
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  Speaker 2: of help them up, and you know, just create a
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  Speaker 2: domino effect that people just you know, helping helping each other.
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  Speaker 3: Did you want to quit?
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  Speaker 4: Because sometimes, you know, people look at things and be like,
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  Speaker 4: I did this because of my system. I did this
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  Speaker 4: because of my cousin, and now that they're not here,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to fulfill me the same.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I've always been very persistent. I mean, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: been here a lot of times and you know, been
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  Speaker 2: knowing you guys for years, so you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: other things that made me want to quit and not
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  Speaker 2: you know, just give up just the business in general.
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  Speaker 2: But in a weird way, this kind of made me
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  Speaker 2: like keep going for sure. It's just kind of like
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  Speaker 2: I can't stop now. I'm so deep in. It's like, what.
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  Speaker 3: Made you want to quit?
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  Speaker 1: God? Damn?
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  Speaker 7: He said the business on the album Experience.
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  Speaker 6: Labels and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But he said not that. He said he said that
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  Speaker 3: pushed them to go first.
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  Speaker 2: Get what he's saying. The business, Yeah, just the just
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  Speaker 2: the business side of it, like you know, falling out
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  Speaker 2: with people, different managers, different different sides of the game,
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  Speaker 2: and it's kind of like, man, you get to a
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  Speaker 2: point where you're like, damn, who can I trust? You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: So that man, you got a song on there called
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  Speaker 8: Your Price tax On where it kind of talks about
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  Speaker 8: a lot of the things. It's like you want the
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  Speaker 8: success and you want to be able to kind of
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  Speaker 8: move on from certain things, but then there's a lot
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  Speaker 8: that comes with that, like nothing in life is free,
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  Speaker 8: and nothing is free.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out west Side Gunny Young Chris too, to guys
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  Speaker 2: that I just look up to as musicians and all this.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, it's just that battle, that back and forth,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that back and forth if you want all
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  Speaker 2: of these things, and especially when you come in into
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  Speaker 2: the game, in the game, you want everything.
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  Speaker 6: And so open and excited.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I said that in one of my records,
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  Speaker 2: like I I came in the industry a wide eyed
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  Speaker 2: child with no surprise they molested my style because it's
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  Speaker 2: like I had all of these things aspirations I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do. And you know when you're younger and you
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  Speaker 2: see that and people see you like I wanted want that,
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  Speaker 2: and they can they have access to it? You did it?
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  Speaker 8: Oh my god, you're not lying.
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  Speaker 1: People. I mean, I didn't even meet it in that way?
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  Speaker 2: Did you?
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  Speaker 3: Did you meet it?
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  Speaker 1: He understood what I was saying for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, but executives that can take advantage of that way.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't have a certain amount of stability
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  Speaker 2: in your spirit and you know, integrity, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can get swayed. Are you still with Nah? I was
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  Speaker 2: never with Grand hust so I was with Jason Jeter
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  Speaker 2: and Shaka got you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, You've always been labeled a lyricists too. Is
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  Speaker 1: that a compliment or is that a box.
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  Speaker 2: Man? So that's an amazing question. I love the label
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  Speaker 2: lyricists of course, of course, just just from the people
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  Speaker 2: that I grew up listening to Tupac's, Denis and the
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  Speaker 2: jay Z's. But now it's like we're in a certain
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  Speaker 2: era where people like, oh, we don't want to hear
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  Speaker 2: that ship anymore. You know what I'm saying. It's like
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  Speaker 2: people don't want to think people don't you know, So
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  Speaker 2: that comes with it too. So yeah, I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's not the cool thing to do today be.
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  Speaker 1: A lyricist, you know, I only mean I say.
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes you're respected for bars, but sometimes that
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  Speaker 5: keeps people from seeing the full artists, or you might
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  Speaker 5: do a record that it might be some turn up
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  Speaker 5: that you actually.
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  Speaker 2: Like, this is unfamiliar for me, Like I'm not they
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  Speaker 2: don't want to see you in a certain space. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's the duality of artists, like we gotta
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  Speaker 2: try and do everything, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 2: that's what your favorite artists do. And if you don't
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  Speaker 2: allow them to grow and do that, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of stunts hip hop. It kind of stunts your
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  Speaker 2: position in a way where you can't like be progressive
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  Speaker 2: in this thing for real.
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  Speaker 1: So what are you doing that? Now? What are others
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  Speaker 1: doing that?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you're not doing because Kendrick is a lyricist, right,
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  Speaker 5: A Drake is a lyricus.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Coal is a lyricist for sure.
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  Speaker 5: While all these people have had different commercial success, they're
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  Speaker 5: all lyricists. We just saw Jade at the Roots Picnic
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  Speaker 5: give us soliloquy of bars that everybody's talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Like, man, that's so crazy. We just had me and
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  Speaker 2: one of my friends just had this conversation and he
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  Speaker 2: was like, yo, you know, the Big Three is like
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  Speaker 2: we was selfish in a way because when you look
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  Speaker 2: at all of these different artists, when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the Kendrick Lamar's, the j Cole's, and you know, the Drakes.
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  Speaker 2: With Drake it was Lil Wayne. With Cole it was
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  Speaker 2: Jay Z where Kendrick it was doctor Dre. He was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, lyrically and lyricism is like a boys club,
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  Speaker 2: So if you have a certain level of talent, you
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  Speaker 2: have to be ushered in by people that we already
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  Speaker 2: love and respect. That kind of makes it easier to
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  Speaker 2: you know, it makes your music more palatable and people
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  Speaker 2: open their ears a little more once somebody else brings
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  Speaker 2: you in that sense.
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  Speaker 8: I think that that's kind of the conversation you were
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  Speaker 8: talking sure about Jay Cole and Jit, Like how I mean,
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  Speaker 8: he's there, he's on the label, but there are people
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  Speaker 8: who would say they feel like he didn't support him
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  Speaker 8: the way he should have, even though he's already doing well.
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  Speaker 6: But you kind of do need that. That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that goes back to fifty eminem eminem Doctor J.
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  Speaker 2: That goes back to that, Like, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure it's kind of a little before my time. But
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  Speaker 2: even what I'm thinking now, it's like jay Z too,
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  Speaker 2: like we love jay forever. But when Biggie did like this,
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of different, kind of change everything.
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  Speaker 1: Even before that it was a jazz oo.
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  Speaker 5: I get what you're saying, Like, yeah, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think that helps, that
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  Speaker 2: helps start this more.
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  Speaker 8: Was there a moment when you I mean, you're still
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  Speaker 8: figuring it out, but you're here though, right, Like, was
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  Speaker 8: there ever a moment where you were like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 8: think I'm getting that arm and then it was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 8: this ain't what I thought it would be.
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  Speaker 2: Not publicly, I get it. I get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it behind the scenes from a lot of different artists.
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  Speaker 8: Does it make you upset that you don't get it
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  Speaker 8: publicly but it's behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I don't get upset, but I do like
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  Speaker 2: I want to do that, yeah, video, do a record,
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  Speaker 2: do something, But you know I don't. I don't just
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  Speaker 2: dwell on that. I kind of just keep keep pushing you.
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  Speaker 1: Was you was flirting with the TD thing at one point?
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  Speaker 2: Door right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Punches, my man Punch was one of the few
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  Speaker 2: people that like I stayed close to in the business,
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  Speaker 2: but he was doing this this group thing. He was
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  Speaker 2: doing this group thing, and at the time, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just like the best thing for me in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: So he wanted you to be in one of the groups.
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  Speaker 2: To be he wanted me to be in one of
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  Speaker 2: the group was a room full of mirrors. Man, I
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  Speaker 2: think a little I think a lot of it was ego,
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  Speaker 2: me just being in a certain space in my career
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  Speaker 2: and it was like I felt like I was starting
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  Speaker 2: from from scratch again, you know, And you know it
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  Speaker 2: was it was a little bit of fear and ego
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  Speaker 2: of having to go back to doing that what.
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  Speaker 5: Energy feeld a song like generational Runs No Shortcuts.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I just I just felt like it it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to be good at anything for a long time, or
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  Speaker 2: be critically acclaimed that's something for a long time. So
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  Speaker 2: I felt like, not even numbers wise, but just talent wise,
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  Speaker 2: I've been really good for a long time. So it's
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  Speaker 2: like that that I came up with the term generational
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  Speaker 2: runs just because of.
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  Speaker 1: That, and then no Shortcuts part.
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  Speaker 2: Then no Shortcuts it was like, you know, just a
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  Speaker 2: statement for my career. You know what I'm saying it's
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  Speaker 2: like I took the long way. It was beneficial in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. But again, when those things
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  Speaker 2: are waved in your face and different things are waved
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  Speaker 2: than your face, like you know, no shortcuts, I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: go the long way, and then to compromise my integrity,
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  Speaker 2: I want to.
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  Speaker 4: Ask you know, when you do see artists who might
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  Speaker 4: not be as lyrical as you or as nice as you,
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  Speaker 4: but you see they have more success, does that bother.
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  Speaker 2: You at all? Nah, my race is different. I just
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  Speaker 2: think my journey and my time and what I do
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  Speaker 2: is just different. You know. I never say what nobody
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  Speaker 2: deserves or what they don't deserve. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they've been through, so I can't say, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: person doesn't deserve this. But for me, man, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know, I waive a certain flag and
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  Speaker 2: I just gotta stay on that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, what keeps you dedicated as to being an independent artist?
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  Speaker 2: Man? So many different things, family, because these different experiences
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  Speaker 2: that I go through, So that keeps it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't want to I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: just jump back into a system without a plan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that too, I think you have to plan before you
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  Speaker 2: get back into a big machine like that.
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  Speaker 6: Is it more challenging than.
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  Speaker 2: As as an independent artist? It is? It is, It
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  Speaker 2: is for a lot of times. But I think for
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  Speaker 2: me it is some of the most fun I ever
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  Speaker 2: had creating projects because you don't have certain people coming
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  Speaker 2: into the room, Hey listen to this BPM, you need
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  Speaker 2: to wrap on this, and you need to do all
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  Speaker 2: this different stuff. So it's kind of just me just
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  Speaker 2: doing what I feel. Yeah. Yeah, So that's and on
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  Speaker 2: the major I didn't have that. I didn't have that luxury.
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  Speaker 5: So how do you stop disappointment from turning into bidiness?
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  Speaker 1: Because I do feel like you're overlooking for sure, and
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  Speaker 1: that's got to be disappointment sometimes. How do you stop
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  Speaker 1: that from turning into.
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  Speaker 2: Just overlooked by the masses. But it's people that love
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  Speaker 2: and support a lot of my stuff. When people actually listen,
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  Speaker 2: they actually really support it and stamp it and applied
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  Speaker 2: to their life. Like so, I just think it's a
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  Speaker 2: time thing or the right situation, you know. But I
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  Speaker 2: think for me, it's like the turning point could be tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So if you quit today
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  Speaker 2: and it's like shit, you don't want to be one
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  Speaker 2: of those I wish niggas, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, just keep going, Just keep going, That's
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  Speaker 2: what it's about.
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  Speaker 5: Have you have you ever been taking off any I
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  Speaker 5: remember you saying that before you got took off some records, right,
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  Speaker 5: like some records from like some some artists that that
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  Speaker 5: feature probably could have changed a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a few people. Or I was supposed to show
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  Speaker 2: up to a lot of different studio sessions and it
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  Speaker 2: was like, don't show up, just come come tomorrow and
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  Speaker 2: lay your verse. And you know, if it's like that,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I don't even want to go.
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  Speaker 5: But don't you feel like sometimes man, that is a
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  Speaker 5: part of my story, So why not tell it?
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  Speaker 2: Right? I do? I do, But I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: that causes more conflict and put more things in my
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  Speaker 2: pathway as to where I'm trying to get to. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: You believe you think people can really block nobody can
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  Speaker 5: block your blessing.
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  Speaker 1: What's for you?
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  Speaker 5: For you?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Man, that's that's a great thing. But I've seen so
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: many people, like you know, mess up a lot of
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: different things for people that could advance people's careers, you
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it's like, in a weird way, Yeah,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: nobody can block your blessings.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of sensitive gangsters.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great segue. Yeah, it's a lot of them. It's
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of them, man, And it's like God is
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: gonna give it to you in another way. But this
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: is one of the few things I've seen where people
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: can kind of, you know, change your trajectory. You know
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Who the entity behind that record?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Sensitive gangsters?
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Just listening to you know, I got a bunch of
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: people that I talked to just and you know, got
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: into a thing with a friend where it was like, no,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear his ship today, like who's
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: doing what? Who outside doing what in the streets. I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: just wasn't knowing that at the time, and he kind
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: of got mad at me and we felt out about
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: it and I wrote a song about it.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Wow, what did he say?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: It was a combination of different things, so you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the directing about him, you know.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Now, damn, damn, damn.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I've heard you mentioned therapy a couple of times too, man, Like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: like what version of Nick Grant are you trying to
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: trying to heal from man.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Things that I could protect, I could project onto my
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: child that have kind of withstun his growth in society.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: So and a lot of that stuff I killed before
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: he got here. But I'm still like, you know, we
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: hear me. We're working on ourself every day. So yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: just trying to protect him from different things and showing
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: things that I never got to see or didn't have.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: And I think that's important. But it's hard to navigate
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: and know what you didn't have to kind of give
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: him the right thing. So it's also having the right
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: you know, mentors and different people around you to help
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you navigate that as well.
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: Do you have mentors that are helping you navigate just
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: that piece of it, like the dad?
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, for sure. My uncle's like I talk
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to him every day. Y'all talk to my uncle every
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: day and he always just tells me, you know, look
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: after them babies. Man, just different just different things or
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: whatever I see, and you know, but it's it's interesting
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: for me because it's like I'm seeing his personality and
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing like things that I went through and we
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: have the same personality. But I'm like, yo, he probably
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: would have been able to navigate this the same way.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, man, it's just it's just dope
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: to see. It's dope to see. But I'm doing a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: right doing a good job.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: What do you do when the dream comes true but
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: doesn't feel the way you imagined it would?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, that's a real question. Doesn't feel the way
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I have? I had that feeling a lot of times.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, ah, man, people fighting if they
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: hold life to this. But it's just the love of
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the music, man, for sure. That just keeps me going.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. If you attach you in
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: it for the wrong reasons, if you if you're looking,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you're looking for that you kind of got to just
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: love being a creative and just staying positive as you
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: as you make music.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Report But what did you learn from the industry? Because
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I see you post industry Rule number four thousand and
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: eighty right, stop colt quests, right, So what did you
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: learn from the industry that that that virtue that you said,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I will never do that again.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: People are selfish. People are selfish. Everybody just they feel
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: like it's not enough room for everybody. I just think
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: people are very selfish you know. You know I didn't
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: come up that way. I come up like you got
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: something and your brother don't have it? Man, break that
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: shit in half and give it to up. You know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I came up like that. So in this business man
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and it's like they not even fighting for money. It's always,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: for the most most times, it's attention, you know what
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I see that, it's like it's like, yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: that makes you want to like stop too.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: So but yeah, do you think the game is more
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: competitive now or people just more insecure?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Uh? People just more insecure? Yeah? People you're you're insecure city.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: To get you out of here, you know what I'm saying,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: because you a jump out there thinking, you know, you
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: can handle this person because of your insecurity. They speak
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: louder than what you can actually handle. So you get
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: out there and it's like, don't go the way you thought. So, yeah, that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: Has to be difficult as a music artist trying to
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: build because in summer, like if you do a media
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: or something, you can kind of control your own space.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: You can sit at home down stream and be a
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: media person. You gotta get outside, you gotta talk to people.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: Distribution deals probably coming your way, and you want to
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: get bigger and grow. The machine is going to be
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: there at some point. What's the vision? Like, how are
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: you long term planning to like navigate all of that,
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: cause that's just gonna get worse.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: For sure. I want to transition into another space. Punch
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: was Punch actually put this planet to see for me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: He was talking about this we did. I did a
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: movie for one of the Sunday Dinner albums. It's like
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a comedy. He was like, Yo, you should just like
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: get into filming screenwriting, and showed them something the other
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: day that I did. It's kind of surprising what it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, this is actually dope. I used
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to do it. So that's that's the thing, the new
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: thing that I kind of got bit by that I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: trying to like work on and perfect and be great at.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: You're probably right, I mean, I mean I think about
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: somebody like Little Dickie, right, Like Little Dickie had a
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: fan base. Yeah he was cool as an artist, but man,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: that day show was hilarious.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Better than the music, you know what I mean? For sure?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: You know, and and and probably makes people have more anticipation.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: For whatever you're about to drop for percent. I agree
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: with that. I think I think today you have to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: be like a multi hyphen in and you know, do
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: different things. Man, that's that's important. If not, you'll you'll drown.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Is there a story you want to tell through that
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: art like film that you can't tell through the music?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I'll tell you about this this thing I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: did so my dad. I don't know. Of course everybody
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: knows freakingick. But my dad used to do like the shirts,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: iconic freaking shirts.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he used to make.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Those shirts and he would like take me out there
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to eld the shirts. So I'm like, yo, I want
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to make a movie about like these these teens that
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: were like, you know, going to Freaknick and everything goes left.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: It's like a comedy. It's like everything goes left and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, that's that's like something I wanted
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: So your dad has given you a bunch of Freaknick stores.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah too explicit? Too explicit?
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: You having a listening experience jud Fifth at the Brooklyn
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Public Library.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Why the library? I think it's dope, But why did
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: you choose the.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I saw I saw jay Z do something there, so
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do it. Just be honest. Yeah, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: saw that and I loved his like this whole thing
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he had on display with with the albums and stuff.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So I was like, yo, I want to say something
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I'll be going so when you have the listening experience, right.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Just so crazy you in the library.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I just never these books anymore.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: This is great, This is great.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: But although the name of the album is Smile right,
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: it's a lot of heavy things that you're talking about
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: in it, you don't you don't think it will be
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: very emotional, like how you think you do?
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: You have like how you're gonna get used, you're gonna
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: get how you're gonna get through the listening experience show.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: This is a heavy ass album and the library, so
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: you know you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Think, I don't think you're gonna cry in the library?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yo, books making.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about like that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You mean when he's performing records.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of things on the album that's very heavy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: It's heavy anyway. Yeah, so yeah, you don't think about
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: it be very emotional night.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: The paperbacks.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna cry.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna cry just because but it's a real
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: it's a real big question.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Sure, different, yes, different. It is different when you when
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you this would be the biggest crowd that I played
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the album in front of, so like to seeing them
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and living being in the moment as the music is
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: being played, and it's like it's a bittersweet in the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: way because.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: That could hit somebody else like oh I lost such
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: and such.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Trying to still get through. I'm trying to navigate beef
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: and you know what I mean.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And all of these people are here for you. So
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it's kind of it's like the moment of like right,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like damn, this is a beautiful moment. But we're talking
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: about this. So now I'm with you, but you're not
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: cry There's nothing wrong with crime.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: And it is men's mental health. I don't know if
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: you knew that, but I know that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: You're still talking.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: This is.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: They don't taken't take.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Me serious show.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Guys.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Question.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Of course, you've seen what's been going on with with
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: South Carolina. Has that helped what you were doing because
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: at one time, I know it was difficult because there
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: weren't too many artists from South Carolina.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: But you're seeing all You've seen a lot more than.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trap Dicky love him man, good guy too, man
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: like good, good spirited dude. When you see him in
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: me the mom Yeah, No, I love it. I love it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: It's a few, it's it's not a lot of people,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: but it's more than. It's more than it was more than.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: What's what's the biggest lie? You've had to stop believing
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: about success? Because I think I got one for you,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: but I want to hear what you think.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Hm hmm. The biggest lie had to stop believing about success,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that that it can always make things better. Sometimes it
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: can it can make your life worse. Ways expound on that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think it brings out the worst and people when
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they see you in a certain light, you know what
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. And you could have known somebody your whole
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: life and once you once you start having success, they'll
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: change on you, you know what I'm saying. So that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: one of the things like once I got to a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: certain position, you know, I had to like start cutting
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: certain people off because it was like, damn, man, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: know you twenty years and you out of nowhere. You
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And it's so many different emotions
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: people go through when you when you get there too.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And I think jealousy is the main.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: One about what about talent being enough? Nick talent is
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: enough hard work guarantee.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yah. That's another good one too. Yeah, that's another good one.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And it goes back to what you were saying, like
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: people don't be wanting as a lyricist. People don't want
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to hear all that, like are you actually talented if
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: you're a lyricist today? That's another question. They put all
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: these like bad tags on lyricists and bad bad things
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to say about lyricists in these times.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: So I like what you said about the code sign
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: because to that point, I always felt like I used
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: to be like, man, I want to hear a Kendrick
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Rhapsody album. I think about it like that, what if
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Kendrick did connected with Rhapsody where he connected with his
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: cousin baby like that.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You know what if somebody like Kendrick said, he.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: That's my guy?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I think about that all the time, Like Rhapsody is dope.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: She's been dope for wow too, So like why hasn't
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: that happened? Why doesn't something like that happen? I'm asking,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I'm asking, why do y'all think stuff like that doesn't happen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how cool a if they you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: if they are cool. I mean, this could be something
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that we think of in dream of.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But when you say stuff like that, what you mean
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like like Rhapsody.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Not yourself in general, just in general, Like I think.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Success is subjective, right because to me, somebody like Rhapsody
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: is for sure. I mean for a Grammy endorsement, deals
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: dope dope album.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You're not saying she's not successful, but she would that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: look would like I would.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Just like to see her everywhere.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I see, you know other mainstream models like I
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: would like to see her everywhere more places.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Same true, Like I just love to see to go to.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Yo.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: If I had shows in the many, I would come
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: to the libary was like I even wrote a book,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: you know, like I even wrote a book, so you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: library is cool.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: How do you feel people just people on your projects.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Were talking about I told that that you cook him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Heard yet probably, but boy when he here.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get me too for letting him do that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I told that that you're gonna get us embarrassed. Yeah yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: but nah yeah shout out to side how man super
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: dope lyricist. That versus crazy though that verses dope. But yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: nah he's I told.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Him what you say was talking about the snowbody's.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Nah the school, Yeah, he ran off with the money.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: One thing you say on that record, And it's funny
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: because back in the day that probably would have caused problems.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: You said, bigger than compet bigger than the competition. They
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: know who the Willace is. And it made me think
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: of that when when Kendrick said he was the king
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: of New York line, Mm, you know was that the
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: mind frame musing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I'm always in that mind friend, Like
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: once you don't once you don't get the love. In
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a weird way, you kind of like the bad child
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that acts out and you like, you know, not that
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you're screaming for attention, but it's like this is what
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: it's about. Kind of kind of helps with you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: if you do have that energy just being just being competitive.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm always on that. I'm always on that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what is somebody like I was going to talking
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: about being competitive? I mentioned Jid earlier. I saw the
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: whole it was like the tweet. Then you went on
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: the podcast. I was having a conversation about you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: you being a better rapper than j D.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Is that like competitiveness or like.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: What, yeah, that's cap.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Cap somebody had tweeted.
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: On like there's no better rapper than Blitters or something
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: like that. Then and then he responded with the caps
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: And then you went to go do an interview and
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: it brought it up and you doubled down on it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You gotta stand on them when once you said, I mean,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's far fettered though, and I like JID,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I think is super dope.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: That reach to say, Nick Gran, I mean that's a
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: competitive that'd be a competitive.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You know, a battle.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody else thought that too. I thought I was
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of heat for it. Uh niggas
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: calling me a hater or something, But not a lot
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: of people agreed. So mm hmm.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: What made you respond to that one? Because you could
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: have just left that alone? What made you say that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Anybody playing with me? What made you?
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to do it. I just wanted to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: do it. I was just on that. I just probably
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was upset with people just spewing certain things because that's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: just silly to think, like there's so many people out
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: here that can rap. You got the Ruben Vincent, you
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: got Marco, you got so many people that's rhyming. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: for sure. Podcast it is dope. Yeah, so many people
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that rap. So to say that is like, it's crazy.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: But you're supposed to think about yourself though, you know
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: what I mean as an artist.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Definitely were you at library on stage? You got.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yo against the library? I switched my ship.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Was there when they come? I got shows, I do
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: comedy or whatever.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I got shows.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying I would come to the Libery.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I just wanted to know why we you know why
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: you I never heard of listening experience, and.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: You know, like you know, being in the library. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: think it's hot, it's studious, it's real, it's.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Dope, studious, appreciate it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'm switching my ship.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I don't do that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Don't do it. No, I like it. Watch you're gonna
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: start it. Watch other niggas gonna be like, you need
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: to go to the library.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Hop. Yeah, that's why I got it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Well, then that's even better. That's what's up ya, that's
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: what's up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Listen. I know you love hip hop, man, but you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: still love the music business.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: No I don't. I don't just so much, just so
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: much in my story where I'm just like, you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: it's back to the selfish people. You know, it's very
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: few and far between. You you just meet real people
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and this ship bro so like, you know, the thing
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: that keeps it together is this jinging and yang of
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: hating the music business but loving the music. So that's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: like that's like the the tug of war spiritually that
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: you battle with. But it's very few and far far between.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You just meet genuine people that just want to help,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you know, and I just I go where I'm I'm wanted. So,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know, the Punches, the West Side Guns, all of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: these different people, I'm kind of I'm kind of like
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the cousin to them that they just fuck with. Like
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: so it's like it's dope. But the business part of it, like, yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not a fan.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Of but it's not the punch, you know, I got,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I got mar respect for punch. You know, y'all got
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: the same song record. But it's not just the music
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: that sound the same. Every time I hear artists talk
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: about the music business, that sound.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Like they singing the same song.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: So for sure, but somebody like a punch is in
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: a position to change the song.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Right, to change the song? What you mean to change
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the song? But he's been doing that though, He's been
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, he's been doing that for a while.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Like their contributions to the games, you know, kept this ship,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like kept lyricism at a certain level, and just just
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: great artistry, not even I don't even want to say lyricism,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: but just great artistry as far as rappers and even
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: R and B. You know, he's one of the biggest
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: R and B stars right there.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: So what could he do to press the button even more?
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: For Nick Grant? You just think it's a matter of
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: time for you.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I just think it's a matter of a matter of time.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And I think I think with me and him, we
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: kind of just developed some stuff where it's people around
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: him that's just asking him for stuff all day. We
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: don't have We don't kind of we don't have that relationship.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't even want that kind
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of relationship with you. If we genuinely got a bond
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: with each other, pull up on you, fuck with you,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: pull up on me, fuck with me. And that's that's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: basically what our relationship has been since we known each other.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I can understand.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: I also feel like too, when when whatever it is
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: that you're looking for it comes, you wanted to like
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: be so like. No, it couldn't have been for nobody
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: but you that like it catapult to everything you don't
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: want it to feel like it's here today.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: And because I can ask them for anything here, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: just wanted to be as organic as possible when I do.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: When I do get that moment to go to the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: next line, and it will be thank you, Nick Grant.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Y'all.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: That's right, Well, let's let's get in the join of that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: What you want to hear, man, I want to hear
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: money problems.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Money, money problems. All right?
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: The album Smiles is out now. He will be at
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: the library this Friday.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Public.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Public listening experience. Just won't be there, But y'all.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Won't be there either. You're talking about me.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I've been to the library.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: No, I've been to libraries too.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: I won't be at the listening experience because I have
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: shows in Atlanta.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: You know how I go. Nick.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, ladies and gentlemen, it's Nick Grant is
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: the Brenda Club.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you guys man.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Every day waiting clicks up the breakfast club, you don't
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: finish for y'all.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Dunk