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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Basketball Pounds Purple Eagles - WVU Football Preps For Tech (Episode 752) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: It is showtime for three guys before the game. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: so very much for being with us. It's episode number
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  Speaker 1: 752 and perhaps the longest title of an episode in
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  Speaker 1: all 752. We're going to go with WVU Basketball Pounds
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  Speaker 1: Purple Eagles hyphen WVU Football Preps Protect. That gives our
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  Speaker 1: graphics people a challenge, how to get that all in
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  Speaker 1: on one slide. Well, they'll figure it out. Dylan, our
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  Speaker 1: graphics guy, he's A-plus, superb. Here we go. It's time
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  Speaker 1: to go. A lot to talk about, so let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy's here. He'll have obvious observations. Senator's still working on numbers.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a data center.
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  Speaker 2: He was up all night.
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  Speaker 1: The back of his house is generating a lot. He
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  Speaker 1: needs data to get these numbers in. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do this thing, man. We come in just a
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  Speaker 1: handful of hours after West Virginia's season-opening basketball victory over
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  Speaker 1: the Purple Eagles of Niagara. So the regular season. Has
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  Speaker 1: formally begun. West Virginia put 91 on the board. Niagara
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  Speaker 1: scored 46. The visitors only scored 16 points in the
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  Speaker 1: second half. Just 16. Did not have an offensive rebound
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  Speaker 1: the entire game.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard to believe. I don't know if I've ever
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  Speaker 2: heard a stat like that.
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  Speaker 1: And did not make a free throw. That also is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Only took four because why? Well, because West Virginia never fouls.
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  Speaker 1: Never has. This team doesn't foul. That's just part of
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  Speaker 1: the deal. We don't foul. So you get four free.
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  Speaker 1: You get four game as the opposing team. You want
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  Speaker 1: to make them, make them. But that's all you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get because we don't foul.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tony, as you pointed out late in the game
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  Speaker 2: that the officials might have been ready to wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: A couple times.
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  Speaker 2: A couple times that second half. Like, okay, we're done here.
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  Speaker 1: Was that Finley that got absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody got.
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  Speaker 1: Just racked right across the yard.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, play on. Play on.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I got to go.
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  Speaker 1: I got to go.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to get a flight.
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  Speaker 1: Got to watch Landman over there. All right, so West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia wins in convincing fashion. Got a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on. We're recording on Tuesday morning. That means that
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  Speaker 1: the WV women's basketball team opens its regular season against
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  Speaker 1: Rhode Island tonight at Hope Coliseum. And the men's soccer
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  Speaker 1: team has a massively important game, regular season finale on
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  Speaker 1: the road at James Madison. And if West Virginia prevails,
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  Speaker 1: as they say in soccer, if they get the result,
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  Speaker 1: then that would declare West Virginia as world's champions.
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  Speaker 2: But there's like six different things that could happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. We're good.
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  Speaker 2: If they tie or lose and Marshall wins or ties.
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  Speaker 1: You're fine.
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  Speaker 2: We're good. There's a lot of different opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: This would be for the Sunbelt World's Championship regular season. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you've got your postseason tournament. You've got NCAA tournament and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy's obvious observations coming up in just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you some obvious observations later. West Virginia as
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  Speaker 1: a whole played really well. You had six in double figures.
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  Speaker 1: And for the night, you hold Niagara to 42% shooting.
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  Speaker 1: But in the second half, West Virginia really just shut
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  Speaker 1: them down. There wasn't a whole lot going on. Second half,
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  Speaker 1: if my numbers are looking correctly, seven buckets in 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Seven of 22. They shoot 32%. And they made just
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  Speaker 1: two out of eight, three. I certainly don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get in Brad's numbers. Certainly don't want to get in
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  Speaker 1: Brad's numbers. Brad, I'm stopping right there. I get a
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  Speaker 1: little nervous just giving the score. I just don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get anything because Hoppy, I apologize, Brad, for the
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  Speaker 1: way Hoppy just gets into your territory like that. I
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  Speaker 1: feel bad about it. Initial thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: About as good as you can play. I mean, there wasn't,
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  Speaker 3: you're really nitpicking if you want to go down in
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  Speaker 3: there and find some things you didn't like last night.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the The defense showed flashes of what I
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  Speaker 3: think it can become, which I think can be an
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  Speaker 3: elite defense. You've got perimeter defenders that are really good individually.
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  Speaker 3: You've got guys on the back end that can erase
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  Speaker 3: shots or back doors or mistakes when they happen, in
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  Speaker 3: particular Insani and Mozilla. And I thought offensively, because we've
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  Speaker 3: been talking about it for four months since we first
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  Speaker 3: saw this team take the practice floor, the speed at
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  Speaker 3: which Miles Sadler operates is just breathtaking. Just absolutely breathtaking
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  Speaker 3: end-to-end speed. Outruns the defense when he gets the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Just flat outruns it.
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  Speaker 1: You think he's got a chance?
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  Speaker 3: He's got a chance to be pretty good. We'll do
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  Speaker 3: some numbers that compare him to some of the all-time
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  Speaker 3: greats in their debuts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he jumped out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia uniforms.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you guys take all the other ones I do,
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  Speaker 3: so I got to go into some new territory and
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  Speaker 3: come up with something else. But Sadler's a game-changer, guys.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, I know it's one game, and there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of season left, and there's better teams. I'll do
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  Speaker 3: respect to Niagara coming down the pike. He is so
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  Speaker 3: talented and fast and changes the game and puts pressure
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  Speaker 3: on that defense. It's not just his numbers, which we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about. His ability to command attention when he takes
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  Speaker 3: the ball to the basket, that's what's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the magic here. What he creates for everybody else is
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  Speaker 3: really elite. And you just have guys. You just are
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  Speaker 3: throwing waves of guys in there. You had a 21-0
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  Speaker 3: run in the first half and a 21-2 run in
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  Speaker 3: the second half or vice versa, whatever it was. Think
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  Speaker 3: about that. Think about how explosive that is. It's been
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  Speaker 3: a long time since we've seen explosions like that. And again,
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  Speaker 3: I know opponent adjusted, but I saw a lot to
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  Speaker 3: like in the debut of this Mountaineer team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. And again, opponent adjusted, but it got off
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  Speaker 2: to a shaky start. Couldn't make those threes and then
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  Speaker 2: decided to take the ball to the basket. That changed everything.
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  Speaker 2: But historically, well, again, you don't want to get too
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  Speaker 2: far ahead of here, but you've seen teams where you
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  Speaker 2: get down to it. to a lesser opponent, and like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: now you've got to call your way back. And it
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  Speaker 2: takes a lot of energy to call your way back,
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  Speaker 2: and then it's a struggle. And they just rolled off
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  Speaker 2: 21 like it was nothing. Like it was nothing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I just– and that will get into some of my
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  Speaker 2: obvious observations.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, don't go there yet. Don't ruin your own obvious observations.
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  Speaker 1: You hurt Brad's numbers all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Stay in your own way. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Don't ruin yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I got a couple.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I want to hear Hoppy one time say,
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  Speaker 1: I'll stop here because I don't want to get Under
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  Speaker 1: my own stuff. He just basically, he just said that.
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  Speaker 3: He stopped himself for his own stuff. Didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: make his own point. Again, I'll say a million disclaimers.
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  Speaker 3: Opponent adjusted. Lots of time left. What I do like,
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  Speaker 3: just overarching theme about this team, the ability to just
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  Speaker 3: roll multiple guys in. If someone's not having a good
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  Speaker 3: night shooting it, boom, there's somebody else to come right in.
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  Speaker 3: and see if you can jumpstart that. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was the case. West Virginia came out, and Ross
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  Speaker 3: told us before the game, he called it exactly what
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  Speaker 3: would happen in the beginning. He said, this will be
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  Speaker 3: an interesting defense. They're going to lay off guys. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to be way off guys and invite you to
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  Speaker 3: shoot some threes and hope that you miss and give
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  Speaker 3: them a chance to grab the lead. It's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Seven of West Virginia's first eight shots came from three,
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  Speaker 3: and they weren't following, as you mentioned. Well, Ross doesn't
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  Speaker 3: just stand over there and say, oh, well, shots aren't
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  Speaker 3: going in tonight. What's the tweak in the adjustment? Attack
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  Speaker 3: the rim and put pressure on the rim, and that
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  Speaker 3: changed everything. One of the next 11 shots were from
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  Speaker 3: three-point land, and the tenor of the game switched. And
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  Speaker 3: you kept getting open looks, and then you started hitting shots,
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  Speaker 3: and eventually you're able to build on that lead.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that was sparked by a friend of
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  Speaker 2: the program, Finley Bizjack, who's just fearless.
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  Speaker 3: He was aggressive last night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll just go.
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  Speaker 3: He'll just go. He identified.
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  Speaker 2: He can hit outside shots, and he can take it
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  Speaker 2: to the basket. I mean, he really, he's... I like
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  Speaker 2: the way he plays. We talked all summer. He's far
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  Speaker 2: beyond just a shooter.
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  Speaker 3: He's a scorer.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And he did that last night. He recognized they could
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  Speaker 3: not guard him off the bounce, and he just kept.
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  Speaker 2: Taking it right at him. As you documented last night.
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  Speaker 3: A lot to like. A lot to like about how
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  Speaker 3: that team started.
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  Speaker 1: That perhaps is the biggest surprise that you may have
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  Speaker 1: with Finley Bizjack is that you may have had a
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  Speaker 1: perception that's a shooter, like he's the next Donner Huff.
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  Speaker 1: He's a shooter. No, he's a basketball player, right? He
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  Speaker 1: can go get it, and he showed that. So that
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  Speaker 1: was all encouraging. All right, before we go any further, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything that could take away
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  Speaker 1: from our very special buddies' obvious observations.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Tim. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: His lip balm ready heaven knows.
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  Speaker 3: Let's make it quick before his bladder blows.
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  Speaker 1: Big bladder problems.
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  Speaker 3: Well documented.
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  Speaker 1: Observations. Yeah, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Watch the game, but listen to you guys. Because oftentimes,
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  Speaker 2: by listening to you, I can learn more than I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting here myself watching it. Because I think you guys
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  Speaker 2: have great insights. No offense to our friend of the program,
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  Speaker 2: Nate Adrian, who did color.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, he did a wonderful job.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, he did too. So this from Karen Kirchival, who
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  Speaker 2: watched the game with me. You ready for this?
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  Speaker 1: Now we're getting obvious observations from Hop's wife. This is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Miles Sadler's fast. She liked that. That's a Karen observation.
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  Speaker 2: She's fast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's on that one.
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  Speaker 2: He's not only fast, but he's quick. Those are two
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  Speaker 2: different things. They are related, but they're different. Like, somebody
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  Speaker 2: can go end-to-end and be fast, but he can get
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  Speaker 2: fast to the other end of the court and then
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  Speaker 2: be quick and take a guy off the dribble. Or defensively,
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  Speaker 2: just be on a guy. You can't get around him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he has got... Brad, as you have talked
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  Speaker 2: about a lot, he's at a different level. Okay, that's first.
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  Speaker 2: The defense was impressive. Forced bad passes, forced turnovers. The
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  Speaker 2: Mountaineer depth, and this is something... that we didn't have
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  Speaker 2: last year. And this year, again, opponent adjusted, but it's
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  Speaker 2: clear you got a lot of guys shuttling in and
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  Speaker 2: out that you have a lot more depth this year.
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  Speaker 2: And Tony, what was the MO for an opposing team
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  Speaker 2: last year when playing West Virginia? What were they going
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  Speaker 2: to try to do? They're going to stop on or huff.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They were going to physically assault on or huff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, beat them up, hang on them, hold them.
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  Speaker 2: If they could stop on or huff, then you figured
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  Speaker 2: they had a great chance. You can't do that. There's
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  Speaker 2: not one guy you can focus on this year's team.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys on this team that
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  Speaker 2: can score the basketball. So that's a big difference. They're
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  Speaker 2: a lot deeper. Saney and Silla, how many times did
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  Speaker 2: they change the shot last night?
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  Speaker 3: A thousand.
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  Speaker 1: At least.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a thousand and one. One observation about the moving
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  Speaker 2: of the students, okay, is that from because historically, when
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  Speaker 2: the students were in the padded seats on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the court from where you all sit, every
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  Speaker 2: upshot and every shot of the TV talent showed wild,
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  Speaker 2: enthusiastic fans.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: They're all up. They're standing up the whole time. They're energetic.
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  Speaker 2: They're all dressed in gold or whatever. Didn't have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: might not have that. Okay? Like last night, that section,
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  Speaker 2: that padded seat section, only about a third to a
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  Speaker 2: half full. So it looks different. It looks different. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it's going to be when you get
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  Speaker 2: league opponents and Kansas is here or something like that. But, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: there was a definite different look to the game last
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  Speaker 2: night than you normally have. Normally students are crowded in
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  Speaker 2: there regardless of the opponent.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So it looked different on television last night.
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  Speaker 1: Can I interject an obvious observation?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You are correct. And two parts to that. Okay. I
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  Speaker 1: do think going forward when that new student section fills up,
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be pretty neat in the second half
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  Speaker 1: when you've got the opposing team going into that end.
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  Speaker 1: That's one. Two, to your point, those are big money
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  Speaker 1: seats where the students used to sit. And the big
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  Speaker 1: money people don't always go to the game. But last week,
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  Speaker 1: the Mountaineer Athletic Club came out and said, hey, if
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to use your seats, give them back
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  Speaker 1: and you will get reward points for your Mountaineer Athletic
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  Speaker 1: Club membership which elevates you even further. So they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to get those tickets back so that they can resell
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  Speaker 1: them and put people in those seats. But to your point,
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  Speaker 1: you're exactly right. There are some games here early in
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  Speaker 1: the season, especially that those seats need to be used
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  Speaker 1: to give it that feel and that vibe. And right
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  Speaker 1: now you're correct.
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  Speaker 2: And not only used, but also A lot of fans just,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, are like me, just like sit there. Like
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  Speaker 2: sit there while you're sitting there watching the game. Not
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  Speaker 2: like the students who always stand up when the ball's
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  Speaker 2: in play.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to change, dude.
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  Speaker 2: So just note it. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, I understand what you're saying. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: ESPN Basketball Power Index out with win probabilities for every team.
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  Speaker 2: For West Virginia, according to this power index, and nobody's
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  Speaker 2: played anybody yet except one game, West Virginia has a
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  Speaker 2: 51% or better chance of winning 18 games.
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  Speaker 3: What was the source there?
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  Speaker 2: ESPN Basketball Power Index.
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  Speaker 1: Brad hates that one. He poops on that one all
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  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just was asking where.
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  Speaker 1: No, you poop on that.
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  Speaker 3: Asking him what the source was.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go to football. The line, I was surprised
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  Speaker 2: by the size of the line, opened at 17 and
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  Speaker 2: a half.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia's favored by that many?
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  Speaker 2: No, they're Texas Tech. And now it's like 16 and
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  Speaker 2: a half. That's a lot of points. That's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of points.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they're playing the game at midnight, Lubbock time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just kind of figuring. West Virginia just
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  Speaker 1: could be tired by the time they.
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  Speaker 2: Get out there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that is a late start time.
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  Speaker 1: Stupidest I've ever seen. That's an all-time stupid start time.
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  Speaker 2: I heard you guys carping about it last night.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever, and I'm being serious, have you ever
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  Speaker 1: seen a home team, the home team, kicking off at 8.30?
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a home team kick off at 8.30.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you have these conference rivals that are two
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  Speaker 2: time zones away.
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  Speaker 1: It's only one hour difference. Now, it's going to start 9.30 here, Brad.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be 8.30.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be 8.30 in Lubbock. I've never seen a team
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  Speaker 1: kick at 8.30.
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  Speaker 3: Now, those folks in Utah, since they're playing at 4 a.m.,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: they'll be able to watch our game at what time
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: would that be? The next day. 7.30 Mountain Time.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Utah might play two games on Saturday before West Virginia plays.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Watching the Texas Tech-Arizona game, who should turn up at
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: quarterback for the Red Raiders? Tommy Thomas Castellanos.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Once his name changed, Brad, this week you better call
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: him Thomas.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, he went back to Thomas.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: He went back to Thomas.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: No more Tommy. Don't be calling me Tommy. I'm Thomas.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I follow college football, but I thought,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Thomas Castellanos, how did he get out there? Yeah. He
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: got a court order. I mean, he used it four years,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: but we know now you can get a judge to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: give you a fifth year before the whatever.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: If he was in the NFL, they'd call him a journeyman. Yeah.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And this is his fourth school. He got a judge
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: in Kentucky to issue a temporary restraining order.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So Thomas Castellanos is there.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: He ran it well last week.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: He did run it well. He got a buck on
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the ground.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: That's changed their offensive makeup.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Huge. They benched Will Hammond and put in Castellanos, who
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I imagine would start this coming week. But more on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: that later this week. Let's see. Tony, you mentioned WVU soccer.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: In Harrisonburg tonight with James Madison. And WVU and Marshall,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I tried to figure this out, they're tied at the
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: top of the Sun Belt. But there's all kind of
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: options here. Do you understand the options?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: No, but I'm going to send a text to my guy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: My guy will tell me here.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'll have it before the show leaves. There's like six
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: different options, six different potential outcomes, depending on what happens
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with West Virginia and JMU and Marshall and ODU.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Just win, and you're the regular season world champions.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That works.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Let's do that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: That works.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So I found this interesting, that former Baylor quarterback Robert
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Griffin Jr. is interested in the Baylor job.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: He'd do quite well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Here's his quote.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I hope he gets it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Right? All due respect.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: All due respect.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So here's his quote. The coach in college is no
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: longer about who calls plays. It's about being a CEO
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and being able to manage and not only the pressure,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: but also building a culture of winning, so on and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: so forth. You know, it actually is about, there's a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: lot to coaching, okay? There's a lot to running a program. Brad,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: it's a million things. And if you haven't coached before,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you don't know exactly what coaching is at that level.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: So I hope they do hire him.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: All due respect. The chance of them hiring him is
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: about the chance of you going to every Mountaineer basketball game.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's making like this real overt play
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? So you know what? He'll probably get it then.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Because you know what happens, Hop? Every time a guy says,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I want that job, they normally get the job.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: No, except if some big money alum says, you know
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what we need to do? We need to get Robert
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Griffin Jr. back in there.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'd say no. I'll take the field against Robert Griffin Jr. Okay.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just reporting on that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Who was that one guy who wants the Maryland job? Bo, Bogo, Bozo,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the guy that was at Michigan. Old guy. Like, he
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: came out and said, I want the Michigan. Oh, Biff? Biff.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Biff.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Biff wants the Maryland job. I'm sure Biff will get it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Biff said, I want the Maryland job. He's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: probably going to get the job. Now, there are reports
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that Phillip Rivers is about to get the NC State job.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think that one will happen.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: That's what the report said.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: That one won't surprise me.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have any high-level coaching.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Well, hell of a player, NC State.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Robert Griffin was a pretty good player. Robert Griffin holding
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the Heisman up says he'd like to have a conversation
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: with you. Robert Griffin holding the Heisman up there. Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Heck of a player.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: How's things working out for Deion? He was a pretty
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: good player, too. Don't attack me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: You're the one that used the player argument. He's attacking
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: you for his argument.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: That was you. What are you just, you just attack.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You attacked yourself. Now you're down to attack. You've attacked
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: us so much, you're attacking yourself.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: That was an old-timer. He just attacked his own argument
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: through you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on. That was a good one by you, Ted.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: That was an old-timer.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Not seen that approach before. That's probably not going well,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: No, that isn't going well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: The end's not going well? That is not going well.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Griffin also applying for the Ormark job, but that's another story.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You are teed up this morning.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You know, Robert Griffin's rationale probably worked for a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of jobs. He could probably start putting, hey, listen. You
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: need someone recognizable as your conference commissioner. You need someone, right?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: It's Robert Griffin Jr., new commissioner.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying, okay. All I'm saying is there will
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: be people at Baylor who say, we have a Heisman.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And look at the Patrick Ewing thing at Georgetown. I mean,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: those things just often do not.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And you know what?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's a bad fire, right? I mean, it's a bad
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: fire when you have to fire the legend. So anyway, okay.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: On this day, 2018. November 3rd, 2018.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: West Virginia at Texas.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was the Will Greer?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That was the Will Greer.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: To Gary Jennings?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: This date?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This date. November 3rd.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Boy, that was fun.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: West Virginia trailing to something left. Drives down the field.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Gary Jennings, 33-yard touchdown pass in the back of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: end zone. And what does Dana Holgerson do?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go for two. Yeah, let's go for two. You
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: want to win it?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Let's go for two.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He said something else, and besides that, you can't say
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: on this podcast.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Will Greer runs it in.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: That's as good a pass as you'll ever see.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: As good. Walked through it. He walked through the pass.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And remember that when he got the two-point conversion that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Will Greer did, the worst thing you could possibly do
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: in college football.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, horns down.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Remember that?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: David Sills was heavy horns down that day as well,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: which I liked.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Very offensive.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So offensive it had to put a hard and fast
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: rule in there that you're not allowed to do that
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: to the young men from Texas.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Not allowed to do that. That is shameful. So we're
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: happy West Virginia won the game, but happy that West
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Virginia was held accountable for that offense.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Didn't want to make the young men feel bad.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Didn't want to make them feel bad at all. That's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: what we have.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to go back on Phillip Rivers. Maybe
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: not the right call.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, one other note about that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: We'll see. Fred Hoiberg turned out okay, and he'd never
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: coached a minute.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When West Virginia still had to kick off, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: then when they went ahead, and then Texas tried to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: do something, and it was a fumble, Dante Bonamico recovered
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the fumble.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Dante. Our guy. That's our guy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Love Dante.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Secured the win.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Did I tell you he's coaching Bridgeport Middle School now? D.C.,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Watched him play the Little Mohegans up there
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: at Westwood earlier this fall. Does a nice job.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: So he's not on the offensive side installing that system
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: already that they do.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: No, but it was an eight-minute quarter, middle school football,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and Bridgeport kept it for 10. 7-0-1. There was only
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: 59 seconds left after they scored in the third quarter.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: They'll possess the ball.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: They will. You know, when you have the ball, usually
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the other team can't score. Mm-hmm.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So what have we settled here in regard to these
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: coaching vacancies? Have we cleaned anything up? No.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: There's no hard and fast rule.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I want the field against Robert Griffin.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I would take the field as well.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Go with the field.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to tell you that I thought it
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: was interesting that he and probably others have a perception
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that you just have to be a CEO.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally disagree. I understand why people will try
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to make that argument, but I see how the thing
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: works inside. Yeah. You've got to have a dude. You've
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: got to have a guy that is just touching the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: entire thing. Everything. Everything. And just it needs to be
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: intimately involved.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Those are the good ones. Agreed.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, ask Nick Saban.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say, you think Nick Saban
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: was a figurehead? No. He was in there at 5
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and he was just like every
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: single day.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: You know, it is one of the great inexact sciences, though.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: There are different profiles that have worked. And sometimes you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: an offensive guy at work. Sometimes it doesn't. You can
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: be a defensive guy. Sometimes that works. It doesn't. Guys
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: that don't have any experience have come in and won.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Fred Hoiberg being one. I know it's a different sport.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: There's all kinds of profiles. If it was easy to
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: hire and if there was one type that worked, then
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: everybody would make a good hire. And yet how often
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: do you make a really good hire? It's hard, right?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It is hard.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Schools miss all the time as you just outlined some
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: of them. That's an inexact science at its best.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: When those situations do arise, I've always felt that the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: person who doesn't have the traditional experience for the position
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: never really fully does an optimal job of putting his
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: staff together. So if you don't have that exact understanding
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: of how it works day to day, they need to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: flank themselves by people who just have incredible ability experience,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and knowledge of how the thing is supposed to work
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: day to day. Lots of times they don't, and that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: where the thing goes down.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Don Nealon. Well, Don Nealon was a great coach,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: had great coaching experience, but also what did he do?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: He had guys around him that had years and years
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and years of experience.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You've got to have those guys around you because when
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the thing goes sideways, you've got to have guys that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have been there and done that instead of like, oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: what do we do now, right? Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So that's what I got.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Harvey, those were very good, very obvious, and very good.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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• 26:00
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• 26:01
  Speaker 3: If that's true, they should negotiate the Baylor head coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Job because they did a hell of a deal.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Because as you all know, it is going to get
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: fall-like later this week here. In West Virginia. But we
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: walked out of the Hope Coliseum last night, like 10 o'clock,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. And it was like, perfect. I walk
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• 26:25
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• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Good day for election day.
• 26:29
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• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So I checked the numbers.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: We'll just go right to the numbers.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Here comes the heater. All right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: So that's a pretty quick turnaround for you. Basketball game.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, how long do you work on last night,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this morning? I mean, how do you do this? A
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: lot of people want to know how you do.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Well, this was both. And I was just going to
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. I was going to give my disclaimer.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: This might not be as organized as normal. Might be
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: all over the place. I've got notes and. Seven different places.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: You're fine. We will muddle through this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: It's as organized as a Robert Griffin staff meeting. We
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be taking the task.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Robert Griffin's a very accomplished guy. I don't want to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: start dissing Robert Griffin, except.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That he's a very nice guy. I met him, actually.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He was in for a game. Jason Benetti was doing
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done multiple games.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a nice guy.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: You just did McDonough for Benetti. I did.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Jason said, Tony, have you met Robert? Three guys brought
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  Speaker 1: a yell. All right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: All right, let's jump in. More turnovers created than baskets
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: made for Niagara.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: 24 turnovers, 19 made field goals. There was a lot
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: of turnovers. Yeah, you could see that early, Hop. One
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: of the things West Virginia's defense is designed to do
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: is try and force you to make those longer passes,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the theory being either they're going to get picked off
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: in real time or over time you're going to get
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: to more of those. And you could see that early.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: West Virginia was forcing– Some difficult passes there, and they
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: didn't get the first few, but you could see that
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: was going to be a cumulative effect.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: One of those cross-court passes was like a 40-yarder.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it sped them up, and they chucked it
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: out about.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's a 40-yarder.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: 24 to 3 points off turnover advantage yesterday. We talk
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: about the depth. Seven guys with a made three-pointer, 3.5.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: with at least three. B-Lo, Joe Son, Martin Somerville. Six
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: players in double figures, as you alluded to earlier. Your
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: points per possession up around 1.2 plus. A little more
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: than 1.2. Well, that'll lead the nation. Yeah, as I
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: often say.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: God, that has stuck. 1.1 leads the country if you
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: do that over the course of a full season.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Season.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: The three-point shooting, I think one of the things you
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: hope can hold throughout the season, Finley and Miles will
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: be two of your better three-point shooters. They were just
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: two of 11 from three, yet you still shot 43%
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: as a team. That's what you need to have happen
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: this year. There's going to be nights when those guys
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: are taken out or they're not hitting. You need to
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: have some other guys be able to come in and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: make those shots. Let's look at some individual performances here.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Martin Somerville, I think, is going to be a guy
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that we probably won't talk about enough. And yet there's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: going to be games like this one where you just go, wait,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: wait a minute. What was his stat line? 12 points,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: three rebounds, three steals, two assists, three of four from three.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: All of his points in the second half.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: And really changed the game. He was part of that lineup.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I'll get into that here in a second. Part of
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that lineup that came in in the first half and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: really Erased that 10-point lead pretty quickly, led to the
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: 21-0 run. It had Joson, it had Martin, it had Javen,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it had Saini in there as well. I mentioned the
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: seven of your first eight shots were threes. You got
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: that spun around, started attacking the basket, one of the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: next 11. That led to the start of the 21-0 run.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: run by West Virginia. Saney's another guy, guys, that as
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: you look down this stat sheet, there's a bunch of
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: individual performances that really jump out to you from the numbers.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Saney was not one of them. Four points, had two rebounds.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: But he was a guy who talked a lot about
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Harlan last year and his ability to show on the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: ball screen and then drop and not allow any points
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: to get in there. Saney last night did that. His
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: ability to guard on the perimeter and then drop at
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: just that sheer massive size. And then last night, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: this will get a little bit different in Big 12
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: when the guys are bigger and more athletic, they will
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: start challenging him. But against some of these other opponents
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: that just don't have the size, Guys were driving in
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: and just turning around and going back out.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Like, road closed.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Road closed.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: It was like a road construction.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Road closed. I'm going to go back out this way.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I've got to back it up and go this way.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's remarkable how many times that happened.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just under construction. I'm going to go back out here.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It's remarkable to watch that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Turned their ways on. Rerouted. They got rerouted.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Happened multiple times. Thought Mo Silla last night showed you
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: best performance, I thought, from him. Showed you the flashes
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: of just the elite athleticism that exists for him. So
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: what did he put up? 10 points, 7 rebounds, 3 steals,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: plus 24 in the plus minus. He only played 17 minutes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Got you 10 and 7. Really good. All right, let's
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: talk about Miles for a second.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Because we haven't talked about him.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably need to dive into him a little
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: bit here. 16 points, 9 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: and it's one of those where we say you didn't
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: need the stats to tell you he was the best
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: player on the floor last night. Just changes the game.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I was hoping, we were hoping, that he would get
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that 10th assist just to give him the double-double in
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: his Mountaineer debut.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Only guy that can stop Miles Sadler, Ross Hodge.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: 16-9.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Actually, I thought he had an assist there near the end.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, by rule, he didn't.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: By rule, it's got to lead directly to the basket.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: It was the one to Javen at the elbow, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: it was one dribble in the score, which a lot
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: of times will get it for you, but Javen's move
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: to the basket was really what determined it. So it
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: was a right call. All right, just for some historical context, disclaimer,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Miles is going to end up With
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: as good a career as any of these guys. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting to compare. Now this is
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: a historical perspective. What some of the all-time greats have done.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: In their first game.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: In their first game.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: At West Virginia or just nationally?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: At WVU.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Butler, pretty good player.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: 11 points in his debut against Mount St.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Mary's.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Deuce McBride, excuse me, 11 points in his debut against Akron.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Javon Carter, still playing in the league if I'm not mistaken.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Did not score against Monmouth. Had two assists and one steal.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Jerry West. Have you heard of Jerry West?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, jeez. Now you're going.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Have you heard of Jerry West? Now, I think his
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: was his sophomore year, correct?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: He would be a sophomore.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: He would have been ineligible as a freshman. Yeah. Had
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: nine points against VMI.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: How'd he do?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: One of just four games where he scored in single
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: figures that year.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Hit for a good year.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: So he only had single figures as a sophomore. Four games. Yeah.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: One of them was VMI. Rod Thorne would have been
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: his sophomore year as well?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: He had 12 against Bill and Mary.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Hot Rod Hundley.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Would have been a sophomore also. Oh, yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Not a true freshman. Would have been a sophomore.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Legendary freshman scorer.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Had four against Waynesburg in his debut.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Waynesburg? You only got four against the Yellow Jackets.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Fritz Williams, one of the all-time greats.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: 12-10.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: He did get the double-double in his debut against VMI.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: 12-10 for Fritz Williams. So, just to give you some perspective,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: his miles go 16-9 in his debut.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: It is. You mentioned one of the big eye-opening stunners
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: around the league last night. Oklahoma lines up, loses to
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: East Texas A & M, of which there is always
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a West Virginia connection, as that is Ross Hodges' alma mater,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: formerly known as Texas A & M Commerce, of course.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You knew that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know commerce went out of business.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Went out of business there.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: When you go out of business and your name's commerce,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you've got a heck of a problem.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: East Texas A & M lined up, beat the Oklahoma Sooners,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: who are having a really tough athletic season.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: You think Ross brings out the East Texas t-shirt today?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: You think it just celebrates the win?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: According to the ESPN research, we've already quoted ESPN's heavy analytics.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: This will be the second time today. Research is very good.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: You want to make Brad mad, just keep bringing up
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that ESPN thing. Computer poll.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: They say that's the second largest D1 upset by spread
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: in the last 30 years.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: What was the line on it?
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: 29 and a half. They closed. Oklahoma closes a 28
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and a half point favorite.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And did not trail after the 12 minute mark of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the first half. Led the rest of the way.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of season left, but that's a tough way
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to start.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Just 29 more games remaining.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Some big 12 results. Iowa State loses to Memphis in
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: its season opener.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yes. That was South Dakota, only 3,200, 3,300 in attendance
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: for that game.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: UCLA looked good last night. Played Arizona.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Beat them.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Lined up, beat them.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Lined up, beat them.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: You see my boy? That one dude. Karinkachoff?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Karinkachoff? Karinkachoff.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I loved him a lot. I loved him last year,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and you'd look at me and go like, I forget,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: what was his points last night?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, people love him.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: 34, 38.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Some people love him.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Preseason, all big 12.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: He played 13 years professionally before he came over here,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: so it's pretty good.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Euro MVP. Yeah, there was a couple of interesting results.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: A couple of interesting results.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: A lot of season, though, Hop.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: But that's what's different. I mean, basketball, you know, football,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: we're almost done. I mean, and basketball just goes on
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and on. And by the time you get to February,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you've forgotten about these games.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Did you mention BYU's?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, BYU win over Ohio State.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: It was a good game until the half, and BYU
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: kind of took off on them.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Played that game in Salt Lake.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're part-time residents of Salt Lake. We'll be up
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: there coming up in January.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Establish again our dual residency when we head out there,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: of course. We mentioned the lineups, just the ability to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: shuttle different guys in to try and find something that works.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: That run in the second half, it was 21-2, I think,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: was the ultimate run. But you had one that started
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: out just you exploded for 15 points with this lineup. Sadler, Somerville, Sannin, Buchanan, Saney.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Just found that interesting. In the first half, same thing. Sadler, Somerville,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: that had Traore in it, Bilo, and Silla in that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: So you had those runs with kind of different makeup,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: different pieces in there.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So Saney and Silla at the same time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: No different. One was first half, one was second half.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: They flirted with that a little bit in exhibition play,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and there'll be a time or two that he'll be
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: able to do that. That's one of the things that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: people wonder, what do you get out of the game
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: last night besides just the repetition of playing and getting
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: your guys comfortable? But from a coaching standpoint, they now
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: do an incredible analysis of what he just said. Okay,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: positions and patterns of substitution and groupings, what do they do?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Lineup matching. Lineup matching, like, So they're looking at this thing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: They're learning, just like the players are learning. Like, okay,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: what are the combinations that we can use? What's good?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: What's bad? What can we try? What haven't we tried?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: That's really what these games are giving you right now.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: So you'll have a better feel.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Do you think that going forward, you look at Saney
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and Silla mostly as one player at the five?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: What are you getting out of the five?
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Now watch. Now you mentioned Arizona is interesting. What
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: we'll do when we play Arizona, you've got some options there.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: 7-2 Mo Krivas. Well, you might see Sini play a
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: lot more, right? There's not many guys in this league.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: You roll a 7-2 guy, I always tell them, all right,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: we're going to match you with size. So you might
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: have a Mo-Sini combination in there against those guys because
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you can move Mo. That's something if you're watching the game,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: just watch Mo's ability to guard on the perimeter. He
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: can go out there and switch onto the point guard,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, fine. Our 7-footers got the point guard.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Handled. And so last night, another option for you, and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Ross did this early, he smalled down.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: He sized down at the five and put B-low at
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the five and played B-low and Javen together. two guys that,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: in essence, played the same position.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: There was an interesting little moment there, to your point,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: where there was a switch, and Laureant went out, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: he was covering their point guard, Walters. And it took
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: place right in front of us, and, like, Laureant was
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: guarding him, and Laureant kind of looked over at Ross like,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You want me to keep doing, you want me to
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: keep on this? And Mraz just kind of gave him
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the head.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Keep covering.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: And didn't get shot off.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: No. And you got a 6'9 guy covering a point guard.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Normally point guards look at that and go feast time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going right at you. And it's just like that
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: shows you that you've got some really good athleticism when
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you're able to comfortably have a 6'9 guard go down
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to the perimeter and guard.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: And so where that shows up is the hope as
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: this continues to grow is your ability, Hoppy, to switch
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: defensively creates all kinds of problems because now you render
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: the pick and roll game pretty ineffective. If you're going
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: to run into a screen to try and create some
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: space and yet West Virginia says, oh, is that right?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, screen that guy because we're just going to
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: switch off on you and you don't create an advantage there,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that really becomes difficult. And I think that's where that
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: defense can get to as it starts to understand rotations,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: continues to get that. But its ability to switch, you
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: end up with Seydou Traore guarding a post. Okay, you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: not immediately trying to call for switch outs right there.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: He's big enough and strong enough to get in there
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and guard. Joson Sanon came in last night. And we
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: talked more about Traore on the perimeter with his ability
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: to guard the other team's point. Sanon came in there
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and did the same thing. He can lock up on
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the perimeter. So again, you've got a lot of pieces.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: This is just a matter, offense and defensively, of continuing
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: to understand how to play together. And you have a
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: chance to, I think, really make some noise this year.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You could switch one through five with both Lorient and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Silla at the five, you think? Yes.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's a heck of a deal.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: That's a heck of a deal. That's a heck of
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: a deal. Now, again, we'll have to see how that looks.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: And it's going to ramp up pretty quick. You're going
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to start to get Auburn and then potentially a Kansas,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: maybe a Houston after that. You're going to get some
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: opponents that will try and punish you for that. We'll
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: see how that stacks up. But just athletically watching these guys.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: When 6'11 Mo Silla can switch out and guard like
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: he does, that changes the defense.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Kind of neat that we're going to start Big 12
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: league play in November.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: In Las Vegas.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: In Las Vegas. Of course, that's what you do. course
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you're going to play you're going to play league games
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and obviously they won't count as league games but you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: could see Kansas Houston coming up in a couple of
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: weeks they had over 10,000 at T-Mobile last night for
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the Arizona UCLA game.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: That's a good crowd there's a lot of red in
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: there that Arizona fan base travel pretty well.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: They'll come now yeah they'll come three guys before the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: game reminding you that coming up this Thursday the 5th
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: of November the Friends of Jan Dill's Attorneys at Law
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: sponsoring their annual Veterans Spaghetti Dinner. Veterans eat spaghetti for free.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: That's at the Knights of Columbus in Parkersburg, and that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: goes from 4.30 until 6.30 this Thursday. If you're not
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a veteran, no problem. It's just $ 5, and 100% of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the proceeds go to Operation Transportation, which gives free bus
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: passes to veterans who need care in Parkersburg, Charleston, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in Huntington. Three guys also, speaking of food, I don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: know if Tudor's does spaghetti. Maybe they should do a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: protein bowl with spaghetti. That'd be pretty good, right?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Nah, probably not. But if you do go to Tudor's,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: besides the cat head biscuits, right now encouraging you to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: check out the protein bowl, which you can make. Fluffy
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: eggs and everything else that makes it so nice, savory,
• 42:56
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• 42:59
  Speaker 1: 30 grams of protein for the bacon protein bowl. And
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: last but certainly not least for the veggies, the veggie
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: protein bowl. of 21 grams of protein. Check them out.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: It's Tudor's Biscuit World. Start your day the three guys
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: way with a Tudor's biscuit.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Porter Mosser's issued an apology.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's never good after your season opening game.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: The only thing I know to do is apologize to
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the fan base and get better. But I apologize to
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: every single person that came in. Wow.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: The things you do in a game like this in
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: basketball that gets you beat, we did. We had 15
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: turnovers and missed 15 free throws.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Wow. Not good, man. He's been shaky there for a
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: long time. Long time.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of tension in the air with coaches this
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: time of year in football, especially at press conferences yesterday.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Matt Ruhle.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Had a situation there in Nebraska. I didn't see that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, dust up.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: They're struggling.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Offense isn't producing. They got 10 points last Wednesday.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: And someone F-bombed Rule's daughter, and that became leaving the stadium,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and that became an issue. And, like, it's that time
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of the year where everyone is tight, very tight.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma, in particular, is really tight. Their football team is struggling.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Their former quarterback should be in the Heisman conversation, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: he's wearing a different jersey. That'd be Mike Hawkins, of course.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So they're struggling there, right? Their offense and their quarterback
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: aren't producing. Hawkins is going bananas. Now they lose basketball
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: to start.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, they got a College World Series championship. Too bad.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Best of luck.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Won a College World Series. Really?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Nobody feels bad for us.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: We struggle.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, so before we get into textual healing. Best of luck.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Before we get into textual healing, you ready?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I want you to pay attention.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: No jacking around. All right. You wanted the scenarios on
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the WV men's soccer? There were six of them, at least. Well,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it might be more than six.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Here we go. West Virginia plays James Madison tonight. If
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: West Virginia wins and Marshall wins tonight, a shared title,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: West Virginia is the one seed. If West Virginia wins
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: and Marshall ties or loses, West Virginia wins the outright title.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: If WVU ties and Marshall wins, Marshall's the outright title.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: If WVU ties and Marshall ties, it's a shared title.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's the one seed. If WVU ties and Marshall loses,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: WVU wins the outright title. If WVU loses and Marshall wins,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Marshall wins the outright title. James Madison's the two seed.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's the three seed. But wait, there's more. If
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: West Virginia loses and Marshall ties, Marshall and James Madison
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: share the title. Marshall's the one seed. But wait, there's more.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: If Marshall loses, or WV loses, Marshall loses, James Madison
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: wins the outright world's championship, and West Virginia is the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: number two seed. West Virginia has won four straight games
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and coming off a victory over the coastal Carolinas.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: This is like waiting for the Alaskan election, Senate election results.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: So win or tie, and you're basically, you claim the
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: world's championship because you'll be the one seed in the tournament.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Win or tie.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Sounds good to me.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Go with that, just win. Tougher draw, because you've got JMU,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I think, is third in the league.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So you've got a little bit tougher draw.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Didn't your mom go to James Madison before it was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: James Madison?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: She went when it was Madison College, when it was
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: a women's college.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I still have the suitcase that she used.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I've seen that suitcase. I remember you showed me that. Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it's awesome. All right, here we go.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Proud of them.
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  Speaker 1: first reported on this podcast a few weeks ago we
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• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and marry those together with coffee. I was reprimanded. I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: was yelled at. I was basically called every name in
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the book, and I was the first to report it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Thank goodness Dave and Jen got together and hammered the
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: details out.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: So here's what's happening.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Why don't you apply for the Baylor job?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I heard Robert Griffin's already got it. Lock, stock, and barrel. Done.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: It's his. That's what they always say when the coaching
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: searches go on, right? It's like, This is the greatest
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: thing you ever hear in a coach's ear. Done deal.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Whenever you hear done deal, run like hail if it's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a done deal. Where's the message from Homeless? He gave
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: us the.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Let me find it. I think I have it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Where the heck did that go? Okay, I got it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: You got it? Okay. Okay, this coming Thursday here on
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the podcast when we preview West Virginia and Texas Tech,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: we will announce and debut our Christmas... Joy Collection. Our
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Christmas Joy Collection. It officially will drop Thursday at 7 p.m.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Eastern with a heavy emphasis on gourmet offerings. So you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: can get your Christmas shopping done like Thursday. Highlights include
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the return of the much talked about and award winning
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer Munch. That is unbelievable. Popcorn with chocolate drizzled in there.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: from the folks at Mountaineer Popcorn. It's once again unlocked
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: from the vault and available, along with the highly anticipated
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Cutter Cookie Company oatmeal cookies with the cream filling, oatmeal
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: cream pies, and coffee from Mountaineer Roasters. It's a gift set. Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You put the two together. Yes. And you get it,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: plus a few other surprises and updates guaranteed to bring
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: a little joy this holiday season.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Did you say that Mountaineer Munch is back?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: It's back.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Now, we will say this. That sells out fast.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Because this stuff is made basically like, I'm not going
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: to say it's custom made, but there's going to be
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: a scarcity on these items. So there will be a
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: limited amount of the popcorn and of the cookies. So
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: order them quick so you don't miss. And we stand
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: by it. People rave about it. They think, oh, you
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: guys just get on there and talk about the popcorn,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: talk about how good the coffee, talk about it. And
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: then when they have it, they go, you guys, you
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: didn't lie. Well, no, we don't lie. I don't lie
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: about food. Try not to lie. Certainly don't lie about food.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Popcorn hadn't been out for a while.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Long time.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Now we have Jen Cutter, part of our enterprise. And
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: she's the best food conglomerate.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Rivals Nestle.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And she knows about this, right? Somebody has alerted her.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't Tony.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know that.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: I'm asking that rhetorically. You don't know.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was homeless.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I'll follow up.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Somebody responsible.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Jen's going to get a call Friday morning. She's going
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: to make 20 dozen cookies.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Cookies? What are you guys talking about?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Jim Cutter up for 48 hours making cookies.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Ed from Ronseford writes, post-game text, what a performance from
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the bench, 36 points. Really high on Martin Somerville and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Seydou Traore. Martin reminds me a lot of Daxter Miles Jr.,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Jay Sean Page, and Seydou defends like Gabe Osoboyan can
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: score from all levels. Picking up some game day grind
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: this week. Going to need it with this late start
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Is Daxter Miles the one guy where people get the
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: junior more than any other player in history? A lot
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: of times that gets left off in casual conversation. I
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people had just did it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Daxter Miles Jr. comes up a lot.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: That is a superb question. I'd have to think long
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and hard on that one.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Think about it.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Think if there's other juniors that we tie in there,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: or even seniors for that matter.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can come and listen.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Joey B. in Princeton. Three guys, true freshmen. He's a baby,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and he's putting people on skates and blowing by them.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: The soft touch, the passes, the speed. He's got a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: chance to be an all-time, all-timer. I don't even have
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: to say his name. These guys are going to play ball.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fun this year, Joey B. in Princeton.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I know there's Robert Griffin III.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: That's used a lot, too.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, RG3 gets shortened there, but is that
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: the title of this episode, RG3?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Do you use junior on Corey McIntyre?
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Rarely.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know that you do it at all.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I don't use juniors. Unless Dad's playing and there's two
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: of them out there, I really don't use junior. I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: don't need seconds. I don't need thirds. I don't need
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the fourths. I don't need it. Unless his dad's playing,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: we're not using juniors.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm not just talking in general conversation like Ed
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: just did.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: See, people now do it to be cute. That's why
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I don't use it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It's a big thing now. You've got to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: have a junior. You've got to have seven names.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: No.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I'm the third, but I never use it. Right. Unless
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: it's a legal document.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: That's right. Just keep it in your pocket. Is that right?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Just have it. Just have it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Start calling you Trey.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Trey. I've never been called that. I can guarantee you that.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I've been called a lot of things.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: You've been called Harvey.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Harvey, yeah, which is my real name, my given name.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: T-Dub from Barbersville. Ross Hodge's defense forced Niagara's cross-court passing
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to resemble that of former Pitt quarterback Phil Jerkovic in 2023.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Only Mountaineer on the court without a point, assist, or
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: block was fellow three guy Nate Adrian. The depth and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the talent of this roster evident with Coach Hodge leaves
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a big man on the court after picking up his
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: third foul. They're only going to get better, and my
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: guy Finley is still going to put up 30 in
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of games this year. His choice to make
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the extra pass that led to Somerville's three was unselfish,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Shows basketball IQ of Johannes Hair Bear. This team will
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: be one we're talking about for years to come. Let's go.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Greetings from Garrett in Alaska. Been a few years since
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I've messaged.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Where has he been?
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Bear Cave? Where has he been? With all the talk
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of the loss of daylight, I figured I'd put a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: little northern perspective out there. From the National Weather Service
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: in Fairbanks, with less than 50 days to go until
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the winter solstice, Alaska is gearing up for the darkest
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: days of the year. Our high latitude means we see
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the most extreme seasonal daylight shifts in North America, with
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: far northern spots like Barrow experiencing a 24-hour swing in
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: daylight between the summer and winter solstices. The final sunset
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: this year in a city that I can't pronounce will
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: be November the 18th, and their next sunrise will not
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: be until January 23rd. So they go.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: From the November 18 to January 23 in darkness. Wow.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Making 66 days of polar night where there's no sunrise
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: or sunset at all. This map is the difference in
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: daylight hours, take a look, between the summer and winter solstices.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: As always, let's go Mountaineers from a northern latitude.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, my.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine 66 days without bright light?
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: That's not great.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: I'd probably hurt recruiting, I would think.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Suboptimal. A texter wonders out loud, how is it that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: number 13 Texas Tech and number 22 Arizona kicks off
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: at noon, but 24th ranked Oak State unranked Iowa primetime?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Iowa Stadium. Is TV intentionally trying to keep Big 12
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: top teams away from the best time slots to keep
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: them out of the CFP? No. There is a matrix
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: of how they determine where these games are going to
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: be placed that is thick. And they've got their reasonings,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: but basically it all revives around who you pick in
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a selective order each and every week. It's based on
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the ratings of what the team's going to draw. That's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Ted from Colorado. Tony, when you introduced
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: episode 750 to Hoppy, he made a subtle comment about
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: revisiting the 800 number. Tony, you quickly cut him off.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: That'll be a first. If three guys goes away, who
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: will entertain Hoppy and maintain his state of joy? Solid question, Ted.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Certainly don't want to get that train off the track.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I do have an issue, but we'll talk about it later.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Brett Yormark was a good leader of the Big 12
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: during a turbulent time, solidifying the conference when the Big
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: 10 and SEC tried to kill it. However, he's also
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the problem with college sports today. Slap the Monster Energy
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: logo all over the conference, then he leaves, hoping for
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: stability at some point. This next one is literally a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: page and three quarters. And there's a gentleman that writes
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in his unbelievable writing, he's a lawyer, about all of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: these cases that are in front of these courts regarding
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the NCAA eligibility of players. There's 200. Yeah, specific to,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in this particular email, Brennan Lorien. And I could read
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it all, but it would make your head hurt.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: It's a brief.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: It's a legal brief. It is. In short, what he's
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: saying is, as long as a stay is not issued,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Both Bilo and Javen will be cleared to play during
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the upcoming season. Rhetorically, how disruptive to a men's team
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: would it be if the Fourth Circuit reverses the preliminary
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: injunction or grants a stay in late February, early March?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: That would be a quick turnaround for either, but just saying.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: A wild card could be the Tenth Circuit has to say...
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: in the, is it Wisney? Is that how we're saying that?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Versus NCAA case. A decision could be coming any day.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: That said, however, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals has
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: already addressed the suitable market issue. When the Fourth Circuit
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: decided Jamori Robinson's case this past April, the Fourth Circuit
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: reversed Judge Bailey's granting of a preliminary injunction in that case.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: In Lorient versus NCAA, Judge Bailey applied what his honor
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: believed the Fourth Circuit said. In the Robinson case, Judge
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Bailey made specific findings for fact and conclusions in law
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: regarding the suitable market issue. issue, similar findings of fact
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and conclusions of law on the suitable market issue was
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: not addressed by the trial court in Wisney v. NCAA.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: As a result, the upcoming ruling from the Tenth Circuit
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: may or may not have much impact on how the
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Fourth Circuit reviews Judge Bailey's ruling in Lorient v. NCAA.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Clear as mud. Here's the thing. You can't... Well, you
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: can do anything now, but how... unfair would it be
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: if there were some court ruling somewhere that prevented all
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: these athletes from participating now, Brad, that they're participating?
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I think even more unfair is what's happening now.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Some are playing, some aren't. Some in the class of
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: 22 have been denied, and they're sitting out while others
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: are playing. The NCAA has created an unbelievable mess in
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: this situation. Speaking of lawsuits made public yesterday, Honor Huff,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: has won his lawsuit. He put out a great statement
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: thanking West Virginia fans and always being out here and
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: just enjoyed his time here. And he will be entering
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: the transfer portal looking for his next home. He's going
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: to make a little bit of money somewhere.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: So he can play another year?
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: That's a heck of a free agent player that just
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: hit the waiver wire right there. He's going to be
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: a heck of a pickup for some time. Unfortunately, there
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: was just not room. And that's one of the things
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: that's just maddening about this. The timing was so screwed
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: up by the NCAA players that a guy that would
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: have loved to have been here, a player you would
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: have loved to have back, and you would have locked
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: down a second after that crown tournament ended had you
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: known he was going to get a 50 you're just
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: unable to find him a spot because you know why, Hoppy?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Because the season has started. So it's hard to find
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: a spot when your roster is filled. And so unfortunately,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Honor's going to have to go play somewhere else. That
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: ought to be good for him financially, and I'm glad
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: that he gets another year of college basketball. It's too
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: bad it won't be wearing the golden blue that that
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: he wanted to and the team would have loved to
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: have him back.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Nathan from Charleston, South Carolina. Random thoughts. Ridiculous. We're playing
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: at 930, yet arguably the biggest game in the conference
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: is the Holy War being played at 10 a.m. local.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: All for the sake of TV. I love the Big 12.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Love we have a seat at the Power 4 table,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: but they do a horrible job managing rivalries. Do what
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the ACC and SEC do and get some inter-conference rivalries
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving weekend. Have the rest of the league duke
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: it out. You could have us, Pitt, Oklahoma State, Okie State,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Iowa State, K-State, UCF, USF, Tech, Baylor, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: That's two teams from the ACC, SEC, and American, so
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: the conference is even out as well. Let's bring some
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: good old-fashioned sports hate back to college football. There's no
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: question that what has happened has taken away so many
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: of these just really wonderful, intense rivalries. Michael in Culloden.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad everyone enjoyed the peanut butter fudge. Believe it
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: or not, I get calls and texts every time you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: guys mention the fudge. Your comments are too kind, but
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: just as a point of reference, I did, in fact,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: make this batch.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Major correction there.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I actually made two batches, and the batch we kept
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: was not my best effort. I pray your batch was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: as good as the kind comments you made. Love the show,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: and do not look forward to episode 800. It just
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: cannot end.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Michael might be being hard on himself. If our batch
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: wasn't top shelf.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: No, he said the other one wasn't.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, but I'll tell you what, ours was elite. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: There's always a West Virginia connection, more or less. Recently,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: while waiting to be seated at a restaurant in Bardstown, Kentucky,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: a man noticed my flying WV shirt, struck up a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: conversation about this year's football team, and then he revealed
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: to me he was a high school teammate of Neil Brown. Wow.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I looked at some national stats. Do you see those nationals?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Neil's leading the nation. Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Jaheim was the first running back
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: to get to 1,000 yards on the season?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: My Aunt Betty and second mother had a birthday October 24.
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  Speaker 1: The entire family arrived in Charleston to celebrate her 100th birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Family time together.
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  Speaker 3: Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to return home. Huge party held. University of Charleston.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: 130 on hand.
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  Speaker 2: AB, a WV.
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  Speaker 1: Grad and huge Ultimate fan, and she's fun to talk
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: about it. If you meet her sometime, quiz her. She
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: may surprise you. Hoppy, you may have met her along
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  Speaker 1: the way. She's politically active.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Picks here of me, my wife, and celebrity, Betty Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Then another pick. Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Then another pick of a Lou Wendell pontoon navigating the Kanawha.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: There you go. Lou Wendell boat there. That's a good shot.
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  Speaker 1: That's a pretty picture.
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  Speaker 3: And Betty, a hundy. Congratulations. Well done.
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  Speaker 1: Charleston Blair. Thank you very much. Jack in Charleston. Dallas,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Fort Worth. for a wedding a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: One of the people at the rehearsal dinner noticed many
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: people in the group were from West Virginia. He pointed
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: out that his son, Keontae Graybear, a talented freshman, recruited
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: on the hoop team this year. Wait a minute. He
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: said his recruiting trip to Morgantown, the Coliseum, is unforgettable
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: and fired me up to see how excited his dad
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: was about an opportunity to play for the Mariners. It's true.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: There's always a West Virginia connection.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: You can't make it up, man.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Lucas in Lubbock, Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Hello!
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  Speaker 1: Well, after moving to Lubbock last year, we're finally getting
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the chance to watch West Virginia play right here locally. Hopefully,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: we'll have another reason to celebrate. My son Carter just
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: wrapped up his football season. They're 6-1 and world champions
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: in the 7-8 football league.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Well, there's license.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: They get one of those big rings.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Brad, your famous quote, they're allowed to get better. Couldn't
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: be more fitting. This same team with almost the exact
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: same group of kids went winless last year. Got better. Fortunately,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the staff hit the portal hard in the offseason, secured
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: a few key additions, some competitive NIL deals involving juice
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: boxes and postgame snacks, turned the entire program around in
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: one year, from winless to champions. If that doesn't prove
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: your point, I don't know what does.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: A lot of growth between that six-year-old year and seven-year-old year.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: We'll be there supporting WVU. I've included a picture of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Carter showing off his championship ring.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: They got rings?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: They did get a ring.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: There it goes. Football definitely a little different down here
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: in Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Good job, Carter.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: You guys got a big ring.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Some people make that mistake, Hop. They look at those
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: seven-year-olds and they kind of dismiss them.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Then those kids come back and they're eight and look
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: out now. Congratulations, Carter.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Shaving.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: This will be extremely off topic, but I've had it
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: with Indiana football. I watched an Indiana sports YouTube video.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: have the absolute audacity to say with a straight face,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: this is not Indiana football. Pause for effect. You know
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: what is not Indiana football? Winning. Sure, their recent success
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: was fun to watch, but the afterglow was suffocated by
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: a noxious cloud of self-importance. Is that where we are now?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: One magical run in history is ignored. Thank you for
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: coming to my TED Talk, Dave and Kaiser.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Dave, Indiana's probably giddy with that. They've
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: arrived now when someone's attacking them for being arrogant.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: So they have arrived.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: And I think if we won, we might be a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: little bit insufferable, too.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Brian and Ripley, this is pretty wild.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't get there very often, so when
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: you get there, you've got to enjoy the ride, right?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Brian from Ripley writes, the pergola is back for the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: 2026-2027 season. This is wild. My wife, my dog, and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I will watch every game out here all basketball season,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: regardless of the weather.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Look, they're outside. They got a pergola out there. Must
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: have heat. Getting to know all the new faces. But
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Miles Sadler, real deal. Unbelievable talent. Let's go. So they
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: go out in this pergola.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Jeez.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: And they watch every game. So they're going to be
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: out there in January? Like January, it's a late start game,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: and they're out there at 10, 11, 12 o'clock at
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: night in the cold?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Next story, fans suffer frostbite while watching Mountaineers.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Sadler leaves them frozen on the court and in the pergola.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Eric from Ashton, great to see the fourth guy, Nate Adrian,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: on the halftime broadcast. So Nate did the game last night,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: and I looked at the monitor once, and Nate was
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: doing the halftime stand-up. And I mean stand-up. They need
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: to have them in chairs. I said the same thing.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: He made Nick Farrell look like a jockey at the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Nate is 6'9.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: He made Nick look awful small.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: 6'9, 6'10, is a big dude.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And Nick's not really all that small. I mean, he's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit too big to be a jockey. But, like,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Nate towered over him.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, by two feet or something.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You think Nick could be a jockey?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: No, he could not. Not even close.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: He's a little bit too big for him. Yeah, not
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: even close. But Nate was just soaring over him.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Well, again, you're saying that like you're surprised. There's not
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of 6'9 regular people walking around.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Nate has been on this studio many, many times. We've
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: seen him, Tony.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: He's a big guy. Boy, he made Nick look really small.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Gosh.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Nick's a soccer guy. He's normally used to, you know,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: he hangs around those small. Nick doesn't look small next
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: to soccer players, but he looks small next to Nathan.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody's got to say, go get us a couple
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: of stools.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they do.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, whatever.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Last one. I would like to apologize to Mountain Air
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Nation for the first few minutes of the WV opener
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: against Niagara. I mistimed my shower. and was a few
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: minutes late to turn the game on. We're down 10
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: at this point. I was obviously responsible for the slow
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: start because the boys started chipping away at the deficit.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: As soon as I sat down, they took the lead.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I positioned myself on the couch. I did not move
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: from my post for the rest of the game, or
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: at least until late when the game was well in hand.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I even convinced my family that they would need to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: carry me snacks as it was necessary. I stay seated.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I began by requesting hot chocolate. Then some popcorn. Even
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: managed to get some chips and salsa early second half.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: That was the difference.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how far into the season I will
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: be able to pull this off, but at least I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: had a good start to the season. Thank you guys
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: for the continued entertainment. And that was from Pampered Perry
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: in Pensborough.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Well, he needs to not shower for future games.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Apparently that's not his real name.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: That's absolutely what changed the flow.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. You guys were good last night. You guys
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: sounded like you were in mid-season form. So well done
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: on your part. Enjoyed listening to it.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Good to be back, Hop. We enjoy it.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, because you've been off from doing basketball for what?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Three or four weeks?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: It's been about three weeks since we did a game.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Junior's sitting in the chair on Friday night.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Junior's going to do the game with Brad.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. You're gone. So me and Andrew are
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: doing the game.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Junior will be in there.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: All right, good.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: And then the same thing next week? Is it Thanksgiving
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: against Thanksgiving Friday?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I missed two. I missed the North Carolina men's game.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: That'd be Black Friday.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Not that I'd want to see that. Been here 100 years.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: We've never played North Carolina. I missed the game. I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: missed the North Carolina game. Junior just comes in there high-stepping.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I'll take it. Don't worry about it. I got it
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: You'll be in Utah for a late kick.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: You should just stay out there now like basketball. Stay
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Had an opportunity after the game last night to meet
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Martin Somerville's dad and brother. What nice people. And they
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: have not missed one of his games in college. And
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: they're not missing this year. They're hitting every one. Again,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: you're just.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: You guys know because you've been to a bunch of practices.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: You're just getting to know this team. But Somerville's a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: guy like, oh, yeah, I like this guy. He can
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: help you. He can help you. Coming off the bench.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: He's got toughness. He's got an edge to him. He's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: exactly what you want.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: So there's going to be, like last year, there's going
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of guys you really like, just.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: More of them.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no back down. No. Traore will not back down.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Somerville will not back down. Finley. Will not back down.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Just keep naming him.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Miles.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Does not back down.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: He'd fire. He'd stick his face in.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Now, was the head ball coach engaged? You were right
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: there with him last night. Was he engaged last night?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Head ball coach, as Brad indicated earlier, you mean Prophet Ross? Literally,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: we were sitting in his office before the game, and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: he said exactly what was going to happen. He goes,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: these guys play drop defense. He goes, we'll have guys
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: that will be so open, they're going to go like,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: why aren't you covering me? because they were going to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: put the heat on West Virginia's shooters. And so, like,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what he goes. So they're going to doink
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: some threes because they'll be a little bit tight. It
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: was exactly what he said.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: You know why he knows that? Because he coaches with intentionality.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Been around the block a few times.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Been around the block a few times. So, yeah. Next up,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: it is West Virginia in basketball against– The Hatters of Stetson.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: They played Clemson pretty good last night. So it'll be
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: an improved team that West.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Virginia will face.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Are they playing back-to-back nights?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: They played Clemson last night. They're going to turn around
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: the second game of the MTE, apparently, and play South
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Carolina tonight.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: They play Clemson, South Carolina back-to-back.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Rare, regular season back-to-backs.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: So it's three this week.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you make some cash. They're going to play three
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: games this week? They'll have a hell of a week.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Are they a baseball team?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Why not? You know what they do? They
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: just pretend it's conference tournament time. They ain't going to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: play a conference tournament. They're going to play three days
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: in a row. They'll probably make about $ 450, 000, $ 500, 000 this
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: week playing three games. It's a good week for the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: athletic department.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: It is a good week.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: We're back on Thursday. We'll preview the Mountaineers and the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Red Raiders of Texas Tech. We'll also do a little
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: bit of a preview on the Stetson Hatters coming up. Plus,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: we'll have the 77 iterations of what could happen to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: the Mountaineers soccer team figured out by then. We'll know
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: by then. Yes, we'll know. Best of luck to Dan
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Stratford and his soldiers out on the pitch this evening.
• 1:11:45
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