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Hour Two | Ross Jackson Talks Saints, LSU's D-Line & Jaxson Dart · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: I got to come off the bench, Hour two of Off.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back here Off the Bench Monday morning,
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  Speaker 4: I hope you're having a great start to the week.
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  Speaker 4: Whether you're watching in the office, maybe you're driving around.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you just dropped off the kids and the carpool
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  Speaker 4: dropped off. Don't check your head at me. You know
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  Speaker 4: it's true. All right, let's talk a little Saints with
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  Speaker 4: the man from Locked On Sports podcast Locked On Saints
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  Speaker 4: Podcast rights for the Saints here on louisanasports dot Net.
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  Speaker 4: We got the man, the myth legend, mister Ross Jackson Ross.
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  Speaker 2: What's up man?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, man, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, thanks for jumping on. We appreciate. Like I know,
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  Speaker 4: it's everyone's buzz in right now. We finally get to
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  Speaker 4: see the Saints take the field. Put on their real jerseys,
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  Speaker 4: their real helmets and play and little football, and well
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  Speaker 4: the Saints didn't get the win. But I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that really matters right now, because there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: to take away from the game. Let's just start kind
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  Speaker 4: of from like a broad's perspective, like, how do you
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  Speaker 4: think the you know, a couple of practices against the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars and then of course you go against a you
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  Speaker 4: play the game. Did the game kind of match up
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  Speaker 4: from a competitiveness that it did in practice or did
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  Speaker 4: the practice go a little.
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  Speaker 2: Different than the game?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I probably did. The practice went a little bit
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  Speaker 5: different than the game, just because we saw more of
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  Speaker 5: sort of that first team offense, first team deeps on
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  Speaker 5: both sides, and so the competition kind of felt a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more charged between those guys getting their first opportunities.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, these guys that got their opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: compete during the preseason game didn't lack for competitive value
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  Speaker 5: at all, obviously. I mean, these are guys that have
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  Speaker 5: an opportunity to either you know, grab a roster spot
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  Speaker 5: or a role here in New Orleans or put up
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  Speaker 5: good take for thirty one other teams to get a
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  Speaker 5: look at and I think that becomes, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: big charge for a lot of these guys as well.
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  Speaker 5: You could feel a little bit of the kind of
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  Speaker 5: nerves settled after the game talking to people and everything.
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  Speaker 5: How like, man, I was a little like I was
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  Speaker 5: really amped up going out there for the first time
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  Speaker 5: and all that, and so you could definitely feel all
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  Speaker 5: of that there. But I will say I think that
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  Speaker 5: the joint practice obviously put together, you know, something really
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  Speaker 5: fun to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's okay, let's start on the defensive side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball, because you know, here on the show we
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  Speaker 4: talk a lot of offense. We probably kind of skip
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  Speaker 4: around the defense a little bit rightfully, so defense a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of dummies, but like, there's there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: question marks on the defense. We'd think that the offense,
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  Speaker 4: if healthy, can be explosive. On a defense, there's some
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  Speaker 4: question marks. Let's start with the defensive line and stop
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  Speaker 4: in the run. They did a really nice job during
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  Speaker 4: the game stop of the run, but there's still a
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  Speaker 4: lot of question marks. There are some injuries they're working through.
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  Speaker 4: How did you feel coming after the game on just
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  Speaker 4: kind of the run defense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the most impressive player to watch in
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  Speaker 5: that area in the limited STAPs that he got was
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  Speaker 5: Kristin Miller, And that's exactly what I'm sure the Stinks
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  Speaker 5: are hoping to have said after the preseason game. So Ricky,
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  Speaker 5: they drafted under Georgia in the second round. At deep
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  Speaker 5: in the tackle, he just looked so tough to move,
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  Speaker 5: really really athletic for especially for his size and the
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  Speaker 5: way that he was able to break through. Got a
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  Speaker 5: pressure at one point with the bull rush right up
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  Speaker 5: the middle. I ended up being able to peel off
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  Speaker 5: the blocks to make stops. You know, average stepth of
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  Speaker 5: tackle looked really good all those areas and all the
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  Speaker 5: analytics that were there too. I think he was one
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  Speaker 5: of the highest rated players coming out of this matchup
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  Speaker 5: as well. Just really really excellent stuff. Now he's dealing
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  Speaker 5: with a shoulder injury. He had to leave just before halftime,
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  Speaker 5: and then you know, he kind of left the injury tent.
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  Speaker 5: He was still in the injury tent. Does everybody went
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  Speaker 5: into the locker room and then so when he left
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  Speaker 5: the injury tent, he went back to the locker room,
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  Speaker 5: which usually is an indication that he wouldn't finish the game,
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  Speaker 5: But it was not like he had anywhere else to go.
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  Speaker 5: He had to go to the locker room where everybody
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  Speaker 5: else was for half time, and so we had to
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  Speaker 5: wait until the top of the second half to see
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  Speaker 5: if he came back out, which he did not. But
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  Speaker 5: if he's as long as you know, he ends up
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  Speaker 5: checking out okay and being healthy moving forward, or the
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  Speaker 5: Saints are able to keep him on the field during
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  Speaker 5: the regular season, as he's dealt with a couple of
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  Speaker 5: injuries now of the course of training camp, I think
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be a big asset for them in
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  Speaker 5: that area.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's one of those things when you watch
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  Speaker 4: practice you really don't know how the defensive line is due,
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  Speaker 4: and so the game is kind of like your litmussas
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  Speaker 4: that's the only thing you really have to grade on.
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  Speaker 4: But like another unit that you can get a lot
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  Speaker 4: from it, like the secondary, you can get a lot
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  Speaker 4: from practice as well. How do you think they did
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  Speaker 4: in the game, and also like how do you like
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  Speaker 4: in the practice is leading up to there's some question
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  Speaker 4: marks from the depth, the corner, the depth, and the secondary.
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  Speaker 4: I have they answer that, some of those backups, some
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  Speaker 4: of these young guys, have they answered that question?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I think that they're in the process of doing so. Look,
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  Speaker 5: I've always been a little bit higher on the Saints
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  Speaker 5: depth than other people. I just think that it's it's
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  Speaker 5: constructed in a way that we're not accustomed to seeing
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  Speaker 5: in that the starters of the young guys. It's kool
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  Speaker 5: Aid McKinstry going into his third season, it's Quincy Riley
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  Speaker 5: going into his second, It's Jonas Sanker going into his second.
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  Speaker 5: And those are your kind of your top three corners
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  Speaker 5: or cornerback like positions in Sanker's perspective. But then the
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  Speaker 5: depth includes guys like Isaac Gadam and Martin Neverson Junior
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  Speaker 5: who have been in the NFL for a little while
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  Speaker 5: and are kind of the more veteran players. Ragion right
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  Speaker 5: as well, And so I always look at positions where
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  Speaker 5: you have young starters and veteran depth. I always look
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  Speaker 5: at that as a positive. I think it's not often
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  Speaker 5: looked at that way. And I think that a guy
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  Speaker 5: that really proved himself in that conversation in the preseason
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  Speaker 5: game as well as the week leading up to the
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  Speaker 5: preseason games, Mark Neverson Junior. This guy was a really
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  Speaker 5: excellent corner coming out of Mississippi State when he was
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  Speaker 5: over with the Cleveland Browns before he got injured, and
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  Speaker 5: looks to be returning to some level of that form
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  Speaker 5: here over the course of the past week, whether he's
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  Speaker 5: taking snaps in the practice or in the preseason, and
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  Speaker 5: regardless of who he's been going up again, he's been
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  Speaker 5: able to kind of, you know, make better plays in
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  Speaker 5: the ball, closing the ball a little bit more quickly.
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  Speaker 5: He's been snagging interceptions things like that. I thought that
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  Speaker 5: he was really impressive, and then I thought that cornerback
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  Speaker 5: Jaden Price was really impressive too. He was the highest
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  Speaker 5: rated player coming out of this game. Had two passes defended,
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  Speaker 5: including a pass breakup and an interception. He had a
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  Speaker 5: pressure on the one pass rush opportunity that he got,
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  Speaker 5: and didn't allow a single catch in the three top
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  Speaker 5: times that he was targeted. Him playing in that star position,
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  Speaker 5: I think that he's the guy that's ready to go
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  Speaker 5: from practice squad to fifty three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of kind of ask you to give
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  Speaker 4: me somebody on defense that probably wasn't projected to make
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  Speaker 4: the fifty three, but that might after their first couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks in the first but I think.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of just did.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that he's kind of the guy. You know,
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  Speaker 5: there are a couple of other guys in that defensive
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  Speaker 5: line that might be fighting there, like you know, like
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  Speaker 5: depending on how long the hamshring injury goes for Cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 5: if the Saints end up needing an extra player on
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  Speaker 5: the rotation of the edge I mean central Michigan pass
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  Speaker 5: rusher and the undrafted free agent Mike Heldman. Obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he made a case for himself too, right, and so
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  Speaker 5: he would probably be the other guy, but that one
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  Speaker 5: would be a little bit more contingent upon the situation
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  Speaker 5: at edge rusher and how the numbers game pans out.
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  Speaker 5: Jayden Price, I think has just left no question between
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  Speaker 5: his ability to back up that star role, which he's
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  Speaker 5: been doing since really in season last year. And then
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  Speaker 5: also you add on his ability as a returner, and
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  Speaker 5: then you add the special teams value that he brings
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  Speaker 5: while he is sitting back there waiting for an opportunity
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  Speaker 5: on the fifty three menter roster. He's a guy that
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  Speaker 5: could easily jump into that role.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 4: and like I hate to ask you about somebody that
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  Speaker 4: didn't play.
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  Speaker 2: But is Kendering Miller going to make this name?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, what's the what's the phrase can't
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  Speaker 5: make the club from the tub or whatever? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's kind of what it feels like with Kendre
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  Speaker 5: right now. And and you look I say that, and
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  Speaker 5: it sounds so disparaging about Kindre. There's no question about
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  Speaker 5: the talent when it comes to this guy. The question
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  Speaker 5: is when do you get to see it? And it seems,
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  Speaker 5: you know, each each of these training camps he's had
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  Speaker 5: an issue or some issue during the season. They started
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  Speaker 5: him off with a clean slate last year, but it's
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  Speaker 5: tough to go from a clean slate, so then you
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  Speaker 5: add the ACL injury on top of it, and now
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  Speaker 5: now this back injury that kept him out for the
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  Speaker 5: majority of training camp. If he wants to make the roster,
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna have to get back out on the football
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  Speaker 5: field soon. He's going to have to stay on the
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  Speaker 5: football field. And at this point, the performance is going
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  Speaker 5: to have to be really convincing because I think guys
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  Speaker 5: like I mean, Audrick Estimate have really made their kind
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  Speaker 5: of claim for that role behind Travis A Chang Junior
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  Speaker 5: and Alvin Kamara.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, is this like even if he comes back for
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  Speaker 4: a game and looks healthy for a week or two,
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  Speaker 4: is it still I mean, is a talent and enough
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  Speaker 4: or is there too much of a history now to
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  Speaker 4: like not be trustworthy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing that's so tricky about it, Like
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  Speaker 5: the performance would have to be considerable, right, Like you'd
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  Speaker 5: have to really really make a statement in your return.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously that's what he would be charged to do
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  Speaker 5: from a motivation standpoint and everything like that. But it
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  Speaker 5: feels like you'd really have to put up a strong
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  Speaker 5: performance here in a in any return and in any
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  Speaker 5: opportunity that you get in order to really convince this
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  Speaker 5: coaching staff to see beyond the availability concerns and everything.
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  Speaker 5: If not, I think maybe if he's healthy, a practice
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  Speaker 5: squad spot could be in order. But it's becoming a
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  Speaker 5: little bit tough to project him on the fifty three
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  Speaker 5: man roster, even as somebody that knows that the talent
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  Speaker 5: is absolutely there. It's just hard to put somebody on
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  Speaker 5: a roster that's not available.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's let's let's move on to somebody
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  Speaker 4: else who has a very short amount of time, completely
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  Speaker 4: justified why he was a top ten pick, but also
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  Speaker 4: completely just fid why people had concerns. Jordan Tyson has
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  Speaker 4: been absolutely electric in his rout running abilities in practice,
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  Speaker 4: but also has a new soft tissue injury. So what
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  Speaker 4: have you heard coming out of camp about Jordan Tyson?
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  Speaker 4: His availability? How long do we think he's going to
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  Speaker 4: be out, and just kind of like his camp as
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  Speaker 4: a whole leading up to this date, it's just been
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  Speaker 4: kind of of course, like I said, the soft tissue injury,
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  Speaker 4: but man, he is watching him run routes has been
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  Speaker 4: absolutely electric. But are we how many games are we
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  Speaker 4: going to be able to see it actually play this year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I get the question. It's a challenging thing to look at,
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  Speaker 5: and right now, I think the thing that's most concerning
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  Speaker 5: is the lack of clarity about his injury. His injury
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  Speaker 5: went from being one to where you saw him jog
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  Speaker 5: off the field and kind of sounded like maybe it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't super much of a big deal, sounded like it
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  Speaker 5: was a little bit more minor, and then it went
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  Speaker 5: from that to you know, days after the injury, they're
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  Speaker 5: still in the information gathering process, like that's typically not
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  Speaker 5: a great time. And look, with hamstring injuries in particular,
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  Speaker 5: it's always a matter of if issues me a matter
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  Speaker 5: of when, not if, And so you know, the overall
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  Speaker 5: expectation was that eventually there was going to be some
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  Speaker 5: revisiting of the hamstring injury at some point during his career.
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  Speaker 5: It stinks that it happened this early for him because
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  Speaker 5: now that creates sort of this long path to re
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  Speaker 5: injury or long running a long ramp of re injury potentially.
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  Speaker 5: It's just so you got to be very careful with that.
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  Speaker 5: As for a timeline, I mean, look, Kellen Moore acknowledged
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  Speaker 5: that it could go into Week one. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 5: surprised if it did. Just from what we've seen from
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  Speaker 5: the Saints, they've been very, very cautious, and they have
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  Speaker 5: a passing game that they know works with Tyler Shuck,
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  Speaker 5: Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson, Devon Bailey, and and now you've
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  Speaker 5: added in a run game with Travis Chanz. You and
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  Speaker 5: you bring in guys like Noah fan Oscar del Brice,
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  Speaker 5: Lance Berryon Brown, all these players that they've added this offseason,
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  Speaker 5: it kind of leaves you the question of can you
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  Speaker 5: actually go into the season without rushing Jordan Tyson back
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  Speaker 5: because of all of those weapons that you have, and
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  Speaker 5: how does that work in their you know, in their favor.
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  Speaker 5: And so I wouldn't be surprised to see this thing
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  Speaker 5: lingering to the regular season, just because at this point
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of the expectation. That seems like they're they're
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  Speaker 5: kind of soft launching in a way. And after that, though,
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is going to be kind
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  Speaker 5: of the similar to what we talked about with Kendre.
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  Speaker 5: You know that the talent's there, the performance is going
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  Speaker 5: to be, you know, incredible once he gets there. It
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  Speaker 5: reminds me of oh, was Odell Beckham junior? He had
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  Speaker 5: a hamstring injury during his rookie season, played eleven games
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  Speaker 5: but missed some time due due to his ankle or
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  Speaker 5: he sees me due to his hamstring, but he averaged
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  Speaker 5: like one hundred and eight point eight yards per game
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  Speaker 5: when he played. You know, Jordan Tyson is that level
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  Speaker 5: of a performer, that level of athletes where when you
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  Speaker 5: can finally get him out on the field, the talent's
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  Speaker 5: going to be there, But the big thing is going
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  Speaker 5: to be maximizing the length of time or the long
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  Speaker 5: play to make sure that he's available for you for
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  Speaker 5: a longer amount of time maybe, but that means sacrificing
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  Speaker 5: some of the short term here right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Ross, I think it's unrealistic for anybody
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  Speaker 4: to have the end expectation that he's going to play
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  Speaker 4: seventeen games. So it's all about managing and it's the
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  Speaker 4: job of kilim Moore and his staff and the training
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  Speaker 4: staff and the doctor's there to manage this the right way.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, good thing for the Saints of this
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  Speaker 4: year as opposed to past years is there is depth
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  Speaker 4: at that position, right, and you had some really good
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  Speaker 4: performances on Sunday or Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think there's some guys to be
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  Speaker 5: excited about, and this guy, and that's one of the
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  Speaker 5: reasons why you go and you load up at the position.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 5: They drafted three wide receivers for the persumption nineteen eighty nine,
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  Speaker 5: and there were twelve rounds in the draft back in
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  Speaker 5: eighty nine, and so like this shows you that this
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  Speaker 5: team was willing to load up at the position. And
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  Speaker 5: now you can kind of see why that would turn
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  Speaker 5: out to be a little bit more. For two, it
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  Speaker 5: is probably sooner than expected.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk the important stuff, the good stuff. Finally,
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  Speaker 4: let's talk quarterbacks. All right, so we go into the
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  Speaker 4: game Spencer Raller eight of eleven, but of course there
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  Speaker 4: wasn't really anything exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Wilson eleven and sixteen, and that was exciting.
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  Speaker 4: There was some exciting plays, but that's kind of how
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  Speaker 4: second half of preseason games go. Starts out a little boring,
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  Speaker 4: gets exciting towards the end of all these guys trying
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  Speaker 4: to scrap and fight and claw and make a team.
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  Speaker 4: What'd you see out of the two quarterbacks? And are
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  Speaker 4: the Saints in a pretty good spot in their quarterback
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  Speaker 4: room right now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that they are. Look, Spencer Ratler's performance
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  Speaker 5: in the preseason didn't look like what it looked like
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  Speaker 5: throughout training camp. I mean, he was downfield, pushing the
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  Speaker 5: ball downfield, all those things. So I think from that perspective,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people are going to be overwhelmed by
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  Speaker 5: his performance. But I think a lot of people were
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  Speaker 5: also excited about Zach Wilson's performance, and I think rightfully.
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  Speaker 5: So Zach got out there and you know, eleven of sixteen,
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  Speaker 5: like you mentioned, one hundred and forty five yards passing
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  Speaker 5: touchdown rere you connected with Brookie tight End Oscar delp
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  Speaker 5: at the front pielon a couple of plays after connecting
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  Speaker 5: with bub Means at the right pieline that also looked
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  Speaker 5: like that could have been a touchdown was initially roule
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: the touchdown at least. But I think the thing that
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: was exciting about Zak Wilson's performance for a lot of
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: folks was the attacking downfield. It was the sluggo down
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: the right sideline on the fade to the right, was
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: the cover two hole shot to Barryon Brown that came,
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: you know, swiftly after that. It was the play action
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: roll out completion to above Means and all the play
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: actions things. There were a lot of things that just
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: kind of worked with Zach Wilson. And I think that
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: the thing that's intriguing about that is that that's the
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: guy that spent the least amount of time that in
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: that quarterback room in Kellen Moore's system, and you could
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: see the way that Kellen Moore system still supported that quarterback.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: You can see with Hunter Deckers at the indigame as well,
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: And so I think it's a proof positive of what
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: it is that Kellen Moore's system does, and Deck Wilson
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: talked about it after the game of having sort of
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: these all coverage beaters to where there's no such thing
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: as the perfect coverage to take away the play. Now,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: it might take away one of the routes, it might
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: be the big play, might be all that, but there's
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: always somewhere to go with the football and that that
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: is quarterback friendly, which I'm sure you can attest to
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: as well in terms of creating those peer progressions and
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: giving you all those opportunities to be able to beat
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: whatever coverage and always find an answer. I thought that
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: what was really like the big takeaway from Zach Wilson's
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: performance was about the proof positive nature that it created
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: for Kellen Moore's offense and what it can look like
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: going into twenty six.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: What do you think Nicky and his staff are what's
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: their play in the quarterback room right now? Are is
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: it just trying to make the quarter quarterback room as
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: best they can for depth in that room? Are they
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: trying to potentially get something out of one of these
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks as far as a trade or get some sort
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: of asset back for them.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I think, I don't know if they're trying to. I
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: don't think that they would turn their nose up at
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: the idea, though. You know, if let's say some team
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: called about either Spencer Rattler or Zach Wilson and the
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: deal made sense, you'd be able to move one of
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: those guys and feel really good about giving them an
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: opportunity somewhere else, while also gaining an asset and giving
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: yourself still the backup that can be really good for
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: your starting quarterback. You know, I think a lot of
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: times when we talk about backup quarterback that the perception
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: is the guy that goes in if the starter goes down.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: But there's a whole list of additional responsibilities of course
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: that you should that that you know, I'm sure you've
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: seen that, are you know, really important?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: The guy on the sideline, that's but to say, here's
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: what I saw and have those types of conversations all
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: that guys in the in the in the in the
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: film room, all of that, Like, there's so many there's
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: so much value to that player that when you have
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: two really good options, and there are good options from
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: different perspectives, right, Spencer Ratler has the institutional knowledge was
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: a starter in the system. There's value in that. Zach
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Wilson has a lot of veteran experience and has been
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: around other really good play callers like Sean Payton and
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel. There's a lot of experience in that. Receives
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: me a lot of value in that, and so figuring
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: out which are those makes sense for you, or if
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: a team figures it out for you by giving you
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the right phone call, I think you're in a really
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: good place either way. If you're the same, Yeah, Ross.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: We appreciate your time. Dan, I know we've got a
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: little long. The last question for you, promise tell us
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: what your thoughts are on the current state of the
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: kicking battle.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Yes. Absolutely, and don't apologize. We're long because Miami.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Hasn't been longer.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: It's my FOLLO value. But when it comes to the
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the kicker physician, I think this one's a really intriguing one.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I think at this point you're starting to see Tanner
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Brown create some separation. This is the first time we've
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: really seen in separation. We're talking about two field goal
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: percentages right now that are hovering around like seventy nine
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: point five percent for Charlie Smith found eighty seven point
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: something percent for Tanner Brown, and so this is really
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the first time that we've seen a little bit of separation.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: And so now this is the opportunity for either Charlie
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Smith to do what he did last year, which was
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: he kind of flipped the switch when we went out
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: to the West coast and all of a sudden he
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: was he went perfect on like double digit kicks down
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: the stretch, or it's an opportunity for Tanner Brown to
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: create some cushion in that distance and maybe pull away
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: a bit. And so I think this is the time
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: where we're going to see this kicker battle really unfold.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: But I'd say right now, Tanner Brown, now just by
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: the numbers, has a slight edge.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: All right, there he is, mister Ross Jackson locked on
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• 19:01
  Speaker 4: awesome articles stay up today and everything Saints training camp.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Ross. We appreciate your time, Thank you.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Buddy, Thanks for having me. Y'all, take care safe and
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: I'll talk to you soon.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: All right, man, you too. All right? The area is Rossterjacking.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: That was great stuff.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: We appreciate his time, so thoughtful good, good, good insight
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: always on everything Saints and everything coming out, and a
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: lot to come out of that preseason game. A lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: of speculation as well. I think the biggest story that
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I have from the Saints right now is Jordan Tyson.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I think if he is a healthy and available, he
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: brings your offense into a very threatening position and a
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: defensive nightmare of him and lave are both on the field.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: So that's the story for me to watch. I know
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of other storylines there and people making
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the roster and depth chart and defensive line and secondary,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: but that offense could be very dangerous with those two
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: wide receivers out there. So we'll continue to watch that,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: and we will we'll come back. We'll talk a little
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  Speaker 7: Shut and gave you what you wanted, all right, looking
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  Speaker 7: back here off the bench Monday morning.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: We hope you're having a great start to the week.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I hope your energy levels are high. Well, because they're
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: high around here, they're high in the foxhole. And the
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: only reason is because you picked this theme of music today.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Because I knew you saw my energy. Bro, you saw
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: my face.
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: That's why you just said the energy is hiding the
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: fox And I'm.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Like, well it wasn't. I know, that's why you picked
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: this genre of music. True, you get the vibe side. Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I mean they were took me a second awake up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: It was. It was.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a RESTful weekend, not from like a party standpoint,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but it didn't lot it working.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta stop partying hard on Sundays.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Matter. We talked about this. I called a laundry dude
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: this morning.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really not as big of a deal as
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: you're making. I literally didn't think twice about it until
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: you said something.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I went a big deal.
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: You saw me.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It was just weird.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you saw me again. You're like, let me address this.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: It was one of those situations where you say something
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: you thought about it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Like you're like when the flight attendant says, have a
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: great flight, and you're.
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: Like, you too, Well they're flying too.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the person at the airport take I have
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: a great flight, you too, And then you're like.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: A movie theater, movie theater, getting the popcorn, enjoy your movie.
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: Is where it happens to me every single time.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Right, Like I feel like that's the one.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Like why do I always say you too to the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: people handing me my popcorn?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Why it doesn't make any sense?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: And then afterwards you think about it thirty seconds later
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, man, I sound like a real idiot.
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: I didn't even think about it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I called you, dude, and then like you walked off
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, that was weird.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: After you brought it up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Let me get ahead of this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: Oh you were thinking about that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, let me get ahead of this one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: After the whole not notice in your hair situation. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: wanted to get ahead of the dude thing. You were like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: what a way to start the morning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, come on, god, I didn't even say anything
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: about it today.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Don't don't don't start. Don't try me anyway.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: Guess what, I didn't even notice that I painted my nails. Okay,
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: what damn it?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Guess what what eighteen sleeps until Clemson comes to death?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Valley, look at that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I try eighteen sleeps people, nineteen days until LSU.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Takes on Clemson. Babe, we excited or what? I'm very
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: excited every like I know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: It seems so far away still because we're still training camp.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: There's we're getting very limited information coming out of training
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: camp because media doesn't have much much accessibility. There was
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: a scrimmage on Saturday, but no one got to see it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: How did they do so much?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: It seems so far away, but it's only eighteen sleeps away.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: You're gonna put your head on your pillow eighteen more times,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: close those eyes, wake up to an alarm, all angry
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: for eighteen more days. Yeah, but on that nineteenth day,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you're gonna wake up, sweet, You're gonna smell the air
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: still gonna be about one hundred and fifteen wet bowl
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: about there.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: It's okay, it's gonna feel like fall soil.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Sue playing football that day and it's close. It is
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: very close. And guess what they're playing? Who the real death?
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Valley and mister Dabos. Sweeney recently was asked about playing
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: in Baton rouge, and he had this to say, but.
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: It's man, I got so much respect for that place.
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: First of all, I mean it's one of the great
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: places in college football play a football game.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: They they they're own you from the time you land
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: that want at the airport, I mean it is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And then a night game on top of it. Uh
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: there's a little juice and in that lemonade. They they
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: are they they're waiting on you. So it's it's awesome.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: It's one of the again, one of the great places
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: to play a game. Lane's done an unbelievable job. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: mean they got they got, they got dudes for dudes
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: for dudes. They're all over the place, so uh be
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: a be a fun, fun way to kick it off.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Well, the ultimate respect coming from mister Dabas. Sweeney kind
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: of said it smugly a little bit, but basically told
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: me in that interview that we are the real Death Valley.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: And he said we got dudes for dudes for dudes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I think he means we've got a lot of talent
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and dudes right there, and uh, well, well we think
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: we have a little bit of talent, which we didn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: last year. Was on the defensive line Taylor Blake. Like
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Baker had some really nice things to say. I believe
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: this was e for Friday's practice. Yeah, talking about his
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: defense line, which is a question. We know we got
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Prince and we got some talent coming in at the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: edge because we did not have a I'm not even
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: gonna say a dominant edge rusher last year. We didn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: really have much of an individual edge rushing component to
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: our team last year, which has to change, and we
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: think it will. But from a run stop in from
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: a pass rushing standpoint, we think it's going to be
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: much improved.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be. And Blake said as much on Friday.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: He was saying, we have a lot more explosiveness at
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: this point here in camp than we had last year
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: in depth as well, and he's right. I mean, look
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: at the guys you brought in a year ago. Remember
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: we were high on this group because you brought in
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Jack Pieburn, Patrick Paydon, Jamari Butler. All of those guys
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: were proven talents at the power four level.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Those three guys.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Combined for five sacks a year ago. All three of
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: your leading sat getter a year ago was Harold Perkins
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: at Matt's favorite position. The star with three and a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: half sacks. That was your leading sat getter for a
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: year year ago. That can't happen. You gotta have more
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: production on your defensive line. Prince will Human Miellen double
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: digitsack guy a year ago. Jordan Ross has battled through
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: some injuries at Tennessee, but he's a highly recruited guy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: And then there's a depth behind him. Lamar Brown's going
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: to play a lot. Jayden Braaker moved from linebacker to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: edge drusher. They like Dylan Carpenter, Trent and Henderson.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, the.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Talent's there, and then Matt you look inside, it's a
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: lot of the same. Yeah, we talked about duce Geralds
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: and Richard Anderson as the two freshmen, Like I get it,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: everyone's excited about him. But Maliku Blockdon coming over from Auburn,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that's a guy that's played a lot of power for football.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Stephilin Green from Clemson, who we just heard from Dabo
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: a lot of power for football. And then Dominic McKinley
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: in year three in this program. So whether it's on
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the inside of the outside, there is a lot more
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: talent there a year ago. And what makes me most
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: excited is that I thought that the defensive staff did
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: a good job last year with not a lot to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: work with. I think they have a lot more to
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: work with this year. Yeah, they really did.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: And like you know, Kyle Williams former team of ours,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I think that are very They did a great job
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: last year. He's a very good coach and but with
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: not a ton of talent to work with. So definitely
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: improved on that. And look, we talked about Prince of
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: montome Ellen, like if he can just he didn't even
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: have to like duplicate from a stat perspective, what he
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: did last year, if he can just replicate it, if
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: he can have a high number of sex, but create
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: have it create, make offensive coordinators, make head coaches, make
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: them think about the pass rush enough to where they
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: have to chip with a running back, they have to
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: thump with a tied end, they have to plan around
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: a pass rusher. That's what offenses didn't have to do
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: last year. We had to create pressure with with five
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: man rush, six man rush. That's how we were able
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: to create sex and create pressure because you did not
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: get it from the four defensive linement. If you can
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: get consistent enough pressure with your front four. It creates
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: problems for the offensive coordinator. And then you have to,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: like I said, you got to you gotta keep guys in.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: You have to with more people or at least give
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a presence for at least a half a second or
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: a full second with an extra with a tight end
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: or running back or sometimes even a receiver. So it
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: creates a lot of issues. And that is something that
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Blake Baker had to work around last year and he's
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: awesome at it. He is awesome at creating different looks
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: and creating confusion to the quarterback. We saw he's one
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: of the best at like disguising and bringing a week
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: side corner blitzes, which is in college football is one
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: of the harder blitzes to see to pick up.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Hell, it's hard for professionals to pick it up. They
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: miss it all the time.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: It's just because you can disguise it so well and
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: that corner gets there so quickly. So Blake is an
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: expert at that and we are and we've talked about
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Blake Baker.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: So many times on this show.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: On in a world where the portal King Lan Kiffin
• 29:45
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• 29:47
  Speaker 4: but one of his best moves, and the portal was
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  Speaker 4: maintained in Blake Baker. Obviously he had a chance to
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  Speaker 4: or so we've heard, had a chance to be the
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  Speaker 4: head coach at his alma mater. We don't know how
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  Speaker 4: long Blake Baker is going to be here as our
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  Speaker 4: d defensive coordinator because he is a coach on the rise.
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  Speaker 2: He will be a head coach.
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  Speaker 4: Probably next year, I don't know, but we have him
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  Speaker 4: for this year and we got what weeks and we
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: have a lot of talent and what Blake Baker can
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  Speaker 4: do with that defense a lot more talented than last
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: year as a whole, and obviously there was a lot
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: of talented guys in the secondary last year. They have
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: more talented guys in the secondary of this year. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: don't know if they got a top ten pick, we'll see,
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  Speaker 4: but from top to bottom, defensive line, the second level
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  Speaker 4: of the linebackers back at the back end, with the secondary,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a really good defense
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully like last year, the defense was really good.
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  Speaker 4: The defense was respected. I don't think they were feared.
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  Speaker 4: Can LSU get back to having a defense that is feared?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: So that will be the question that Blake Baker and
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  Speaker 4: his team and his side of the ball will be
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: able to answer.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what.
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  Speaker 4: Only eighteen more sleeps till we get to see it,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm fired up. I'm excited. Blake Baker, one last ride,
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  Speaker 3: You calling it now? You're saying one last ride? Are
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  Speaker 3: you calling it?
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  Speaker 2: Blake ahead? Coach next year? I think he is, probably,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, unless they're some I think.
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  Speaker 8: We were lucky to get him back this season.
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  Speaker 4: That was like the best recruiting job ever, right, and
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  Speaker 4: Lane's not can get a lot of credit for that
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  Speaker 4: because it doesn't go on as the stats is like
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  Speaker 4: the number one portal class, number one recruiting.
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  Speaker 2: Class, but the number one coach.
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  Speaker 1: That was.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like we said it when Lane
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  Speaker 2: What? Like, how's he doing?
• 31:34
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• 31:39
  Speaker 4: That like the first gradable thing that we had on
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• 31:45
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• 31:49
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  Speaker 4: If LSU's defense, an LSU team as a whole, is
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  Speaker 4: think that he wouldn't be I guess as if the
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  Speaker 3: Right, which there's no evidence to the point that it's
• 32:05
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Blake has improved every year he's been here, right, And
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: like I bet I've been critical against the whole running
• 32:12
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• 32:15
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  Speaker 3: They can sit back and wait. That'll help with a
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  Speaker 3: running quarterback, So that changes everything. But also, look what
• 32:23
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• 32:28
  Speaker 4: And he's so good at creating pressure. And but people
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• 32:33
  Speaker 4: have to be Blake Baker in his disguises, in his
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• 32:40
  Speaker 4: going to be if you can get an edge rush,
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  Speaker 4: Like if you can create pressure with your front four.
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  Speaker 4: Think of how good his play calling, his game planning
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  Speaker 4: can be. So I'm excited to see it. Prince wille Montuelan,
• 32:51
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• 32:53
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• 32:57
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  Speaker 4: There is a quarterback out there that's starting to lose
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  Speaker 4: that new quarterback smell does a play on New Car
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  Speaker 4: smell elandre that's all your eyes Jackson Dart. I think
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  Speaker 4: the number one goal for the New York Jets going
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  Speaker 4: into this year that we all heard, all saw, all suspected.
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  Speaker 4: Let's keep Jackson Dart healthy. Okay, what do we see that?
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  Speaker 4: Like the first drive of the game, the first highlight,
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  Speaker 4: they just completely whiff on a block and he gets
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: absolutely crushed and sitting there and laying on the field
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: and I go, here we go again. He goes to
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: the sideline. What do they do? They take him to
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the medical tent to be evaluated for a concussion.
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: Tale as old as time.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Tales old at times.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: If I've seen if I had a nickel, every time
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: he got evaluated for a concussion. My boy wasn't real
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: excited about that. He makes some comments he wasn't real
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: thrilled about the proto call. He said he was quote
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: puzzled that he had to go into the injury tent
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: and be.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: You know, evaluated for well, yeah, you had a concussion.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: And then John Harball after the game kind of makes
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: some comments not like directed towards it, but kind of
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: like getting his quarterbacks back a little bit about you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: the whole protocol situation. The person we know that you
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: know made the stock comments like we know they're there
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: for the player safety and they should be blah blah blah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like didn't necessarily come out defending the NFL
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: or defending Jackson just kind of played middle road there
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit. Just kind of got me thinking about
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: his history, right, and like he was upset that he
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: got evaluated. But I'm also watched it and I was like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: you got crushed and you laid there for like ten
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: seconds and didn't move. Yeah, of course they're going to
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: be on heightened. Then your history also determines whether what
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: these guys are doing there. It plays a factor in
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: their decision, Like if you have a history concussion, it's
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: going to play a factor in that evaluation. My question
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: when I started thinking about this and seeing like his
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: reaction to it and kind of his history and his
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: play style, I don't know if he's he's too young
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: for his play stole to really change. I don't think
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: he's going to mature to the fact where he's going
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: to play any differently, especially like it it was a
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: good hit, right.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: So shout out former Tiger Jay Ward the one lay
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: in the wood right there?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Oh really yep?
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Well not shout out to Tyrone Tracy who just missed
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the block. Like the one thing you do is was
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: protect your quarterback in preseason game number one, he.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Actually fell down untouched.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: If Jackson gets a concussion this year or gets injured,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: is he in threat early in his career to kind
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: of like we say his name, we think of like Tua,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: is he in this?
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: I was thinking he's gonna end up being like Tua
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: where we're where we debate. He's very young, but is
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: it time for him to just hang it up because
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: you've taken so many hits to the head, Like for Tua,
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: let him have one more a bad hit.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm not and I'm not saying like that,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: not going like the hanging up.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: A situation, but right way, wait wait wait wait.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: But like it's like when you think of Tua, you
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: think of injury. Yeah, you think of concussion, you think
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: of there is a proclivity towards that you think of.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: He is for whatever reason, he gets them more than
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: other people for whatever reason. Then maybe that's his play style,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that's his genetics, whatever it is. But there's a
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  Speaker 4: stigma that comes when you hear the name Tua. Yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: how far are we away? How much do you things
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: have to change for Jackson Dart not to get that
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: same sigma, And I hope he doesn't. I hope he
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: stays healthy. He's fun to watch, She's a good player,
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: so I hope he stays healthy. Tyrone Tracy blocked the
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: edge rusher. It's your job. You're a professional. You can't
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: give a guy like that's if that's not a veteran
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: right there, I'm cutting him on the spot because that's
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: my starting quarterback. That's that's you can't let that happen. Yeah, accidents,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: mistakes happened, miss assignments happened. They do happen, and they
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: can also get you cut if your dumb mistake threatens
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the starting quarterback that has a proclivity for injuries.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: So I guess my thing is, like I heard it
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: this morning driving in was everybody was criticizing Jackson Dart
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: in his style of play and all those like style
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: playing really calls of this injury. That's a miss block.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: And yes he was sent off the field. He came
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: back in on that same drive and thro a touchdown pass.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: He was obviously fine. I pulled up his rookie year,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: he was evaluated five times for concussions, including preseason last year.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: He was only diagnosed with one concussion last year. So
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the protocol a lot of times, the wrest will send
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you off the field. It's not even most of the time.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Actually it's not even a team decision. The raffle sends
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: you off. So, I mean, he was diagnosed with one concussion,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: miss two weeks. It was week eleven and week twelve.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: You go back to college, no concussions. He towards right meniscus,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: miss four games his freshman year at USC, then an
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: ankle spraying in twenty twenty four year old miss. So
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: like he's actually been relatively healthy. Like, I get it,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: he's been evaluated a lot of times, but there were
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of people like, oh, if he keeps this up.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, he' said one concussion so far in the
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: n IF. I get the evaluation and all that, but
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're a little off from that
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: right now. He's still places on helping things. But yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: and it's not in a stigma. Always isn't necessarily true.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: It comes from true. It's like, where's where there's smoke,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: there's fire, and being evaluated makes you worry for the
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: style of play comes into fact. No, things like this
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: hit was not his style of play. That was that
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: was That was a running back making a stupid mistake
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: that almost cost your started quarterback. Like if I'm I'm
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: getting on that coach of staff, he's getting lit up
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: after that game, that running back.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: It's not style of play. But there is a stigma
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: that comes with five evaluations is indictment on your style
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: of play. And he's gonna have to grow up and
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to learn and you don't. There's there's
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: a fine line because you don't want to take away
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: his play making ability. You don't want to take away
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the thing that makes him a good quarterback. But he
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: does have to learn to play smarter. And this is
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: the thing that a lot of quarterbacks have to learn
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: when they're when they're young and they come out of college,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: uh that it's a different game. You have to protect
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: yourselves and not a lot of young quarterbacks get to
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: learn that from the sideline. He's having to learn that
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: with live bullets thrown at him. So we hope he
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: stays healthy. He's fun to watch. It's fun to watch
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: that team. It's fun to watch someone play with that
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: different play style. But if he wants a long, long career,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to change his play style a little bit.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see what happens.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: But anyway, here's to his brain, Scataboo's brain, here's his brain.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Stay healthy, Yeah, cheers, stay healthy out there.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah like that.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, A lot of people are starting to get on
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  Speaker 4: the Dallas cowboy train for this year. A lot of
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  Speaker 4: the national people are starting to pick them as that
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  Speaker 4: kind of their their darling.
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  Speaker 2: I don't love that. You just want them to be bad.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to be upset, be good.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't want anybody to hype them up.
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  Speaker 4: All right, when we come back started our three, we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have weekend winners and losers, So stick with us.
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  Speaker 2: Right here, enough, a bit off the bench, all right,
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  Speaker 2: It is that time.
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  Speaker 4: It is that time to tell you to go to
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  Speaker 2: Go Tommy's dot com. Yeah, yeah, both of y'all, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot. That's on me. She had it, That's on me.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot.
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  Speaker 4: I actually was kind of hope you'll both do go
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  Speaker 4: to go Tommy's dot com. Tommy's dot com, Uh, windows
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  Speaker 4: whether it's a brand new project, if you're building a
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  Speaker 4: new house, maybe you are doing a little renovation like ours,
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  Speaker 4: like we're doing we're at the plant House, or maybe
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  Speaker 4: you just live in South Louisiana and you got some
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  Speaker 4: rotted windows, righted doors, because well, hell, there's humid here,
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  Speaker 4: there's termites, there's things, there's a little weather here. You
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  Speaker 4: need to replace it. Well, you get Tommy and his
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  Speaker 4: anything that they install over there with Tommy's team. If
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  Speaker 4: you have a project, having it and make sure like
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  Speaker 2: Do yourself a favor.
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