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AEW Hot Topics | Stipulate This! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition Ship five four three two one zero
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  Speaker 1: all engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AW fanhob podcast team. This is Kelson
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  Speaker 2: and We've got a lot to talk about tonight. But
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  Speaker 2: before we start, I did want to make a couple
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  Speaker 2: of little announcements. First of all, I just want to
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  Speaker 2: remind everybody that Collision this week is on Thursday night,
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  Speaker 2: I guess too. I haven't heard any anything to the contrary,
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  Speaker 2: but I just wanted to remind people that that it
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  Speaker 2: that I want you all to consider joy the AW
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  Speaker 2: fat up subretter. We got some really good content and
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  Speaker 2: stuff that we're talking about there. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: that we're talking about right now is what is what
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  Speaker 2: is your Mount Rushmore of Aw's greatest moments? Which I
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  Speaker 2: think is a really cool conversation. I usually hate the
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  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore conversations, but in this case, not really. This
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  Speaker 2: has actually been a really fun conversation with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. People bringing up that they're different, they're a
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  Speaker 2: lot different, so there's a lot of stuff that people
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  Speaker 2: are saying that is new, and of course just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to remind you again. Of course you're listening to the
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  Speaker 2: suggest everybody go over there, uh and uh enjoy what
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  Speaker 2: they've got to say. Let's see we apparently we've got
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  Speaker 2: some folks in the chat. Uh. Actually it's our guys
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  Speaker 2: that are in here in the chat, which is odd.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So I'm not going to read what you said.
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  Speaker 2: But let's get on with the show and uh. The
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  Speaker 2: first topic of this evening is going to be m hmm.
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  Speaker 2: The match between Kenny Omega and swear Strickland won by
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Omega, meaning that he retained his EVP status. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: because he lost swurst Rickland then lost his number one contendership.
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  Speaker 2: Don't really want to touch on this match too much.
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  Speaker 2: We will be talking about some of the things that
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  Speaker 2: this match may lead to later on, but I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to ask specific questions of the group here, one
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  Speaker 2: of them being was this a wasted stipulation as it
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  Speaker 2: says on the graphic? And are And I think Barry
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  Speaker 2: is the one that I think you brought this up
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  Speaker 2: in the on the discord when we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: tonight's show. Are there too many stipulations in AW? Is
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  Speaker 2: it taking away from it? So, Barry, I'm gonna throw
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  Speaker 2: it to you. What do you think? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I did some reflecting kind of during the show and
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  Speaker 1: then afterwards with you, and I think when they use stipulations,
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  Speaker 1: Tony really needs to take a step back. And and
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  Speaker 1: to your point, is this something that we're wasting? I
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  Speaker 1: thought that stipulation was really intriguing. The match went the
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  Speaker 1: way I thought it was going to go to begin with,
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  Speaker 1: just where I think they're booking. And because of that,
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  Speaker 1: I think they got people's hopes up and missed on
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  Speaker 1: something that I think would have been really, really fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one thing if you put a stipulation like
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  Speaker 1: all that match needed was just the number one contender.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't need to name anybody as a number one contender.
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  Speaker 1: They should have just said, you know what, we're booking
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  Speaker 1: a match between Swerve and Kenny for the number one contender,
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  Speaker 1: and that's it would have been fine, but they threw
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  Speaker 1: the stipulation and about Swerve winning and getting the EVP title,
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  Speaker 1: and that got people thinking and it was really really interesting,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of really cool storytelling ideas. When you dangle
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  Speaker 1: something and you're not serious, like, I think that's a waste.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a wasted opportunity. Ahead Keils, I wanted.
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  Speaker 2: To ask you a question because I mentioned this last
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  Speaker 2: week on the show, and I don't know whether I
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  Speaker 2: was dreaming or not, But am I right in saying that,
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  Speaker 2: didn't swervest Ricklin when they made this stipulation. Didn't swear
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  Speaker 2: Strickland come out on whatever show he was on and
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  Speaker 2: say I'm the number one contender? That's news to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was in a promo and that
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  Speaker 1: promo that Weird Dynamite. Didn't that happen on that Weird Dynamite.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: I think yeah it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it came out of nowhere. Yeah, the announcers were
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  Speaker 1: the ones that plugged us in and then Swerve was
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  Speaker 1: reacting to it, and that to me just says that
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  Speaker 1: they screwed up. I think they screwed up. I don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Shane, I want to hear your thoughts on this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because let's extend this further, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: AW has done a lot of these Hey witnes match,
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  Speaker 2: you share, you win, two hundred thousand dollars, five hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, a million dollars. We got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: rich wrestlers now in AW, and uh, they don't even
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  Speaker 2: be the sign contracts anymore at this point. They just
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  Speaker 2: wrestled for the money. Yeah, I mean, I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think of these stipulation matches.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're not wrong. I mean, they're winning all
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  Speaker 4: this money on the side, Why where's their incentive to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, do what they're actually there to do. I
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  Speaker 4: I'm on both sides of the playing field here. Like
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  Speaker 4: in terms of this current situation with Kenny and Swerve,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that they needed the stipulation. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think they could have gone into this with from
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  Speaker 4: the contendership perspective. I think Kenny is gonna you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna use that EVP thing forever. It was a
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  Speaker 4: it was a bait and switch. It's like going to
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  Speaker 4: a best Bie back in nineteen ninety nine, getting the
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  Speaker 4: Walkman with the anti skip on it. But you know
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  Speaker 4: they don't have the cheap one. You're gonna end up
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  Speaker 4: spending extra sixteen bucks on the expensive one and you're
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  Speaker 4: not getting you know, what you came in there to
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  Speaker 4: pay for. But you're still getting something out of the situation.
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  Speaker 4: And I I this is one of those things to me,
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  Speaker 4: like maybe we shouldn't overanalyze this and just take it
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  Speaker 4: for what it is. You know, we got something out
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  Speaker 4: of it, and I think that's good enough for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just going forward for them is my just general advice.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask Jess a specific
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  Speaker 2: question here. Okay, the stipulation is well known in this
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  Speaker 2: were Strickland and h Kenny Omega match. My question to
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  Speaker 2: you is two parts one and this is it also
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  Speaker 2: be to Chris as well. It's two parts. One is
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  Speaker 2: do you agree that the stipulation maybe wasn't needed. Two
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  Speaker 2: Maybe let's say that the stipulation was made for a
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  Speaker 2: match between I don't know, Wheeler Judah and Mark Davis.
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  Speaker 2: Would it have meant more?
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  Speaker 4: With that?
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  Speaker 5: Like, are we talking like the EVP stipulation specifically because neither.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but they could have had. Okay, whoever wins this match,
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  Speaker 2: this is the way it goes with aw Whoever wins
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  Speaker 2: this match wins a shot at the eliminator match, for
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  Speaker 2: you know which, if they win the eliminator match and
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  Speaker 2: they're obviously the number one contender, you know it's but
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  Speaker 2: they gotta fight and GF. I mean again, it goes
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  Speaker 2: back to r aw doing with these eliminator matches number
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  Speaker 2: one gettender EVP matches. Are they doing in your opinion,
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  Speaker 2: too many stipulation matches?
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  Speaker 3: Probably?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like with the money matches, they sort of
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  Speaker 5: served a bit of a purpose, at least most of
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  Speaker 5: them did, because they played into the whole broke Buck storyline.
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  Speaker 5: But outside of that, they don't really serve much of
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  Speaker 5: a purpose. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: So, Hey, let me throw this this already, Jess and
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  Speaker 1: Chris Kelson and Shane too. I don't really have a
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  Speaker 1: problem with the money matches or the eliminator matches, Like
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  Speaker 1: I think that stuff's fine, just kind of coming up
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  Speaker 1: for a reason for a match. I don't really have
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  Speaker 1: a problem with that. It's when you add a stipulation
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  Speaker 1: of severity to a match that in essence is more
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  Speaker 1: interesting than the than the other one. Like in this case,
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  Speaker 1: I think Sweer being EVP was more interesting than Kenny
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  Speaker 1: getting the number one contender shot. Save that. Don't don't
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  Speaker 1: put on severe, severe stipulations like Hangman losing his title
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  Speaker 1: unless you're going to explore that or I'm losing his
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  Speaker 1: chance to go for the title, and like that's what
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  Speaker 1: I think happened. They're like, oh, Okay, they're gonna believe
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  Speaker 1: us because we did it here. They're going to tune
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  Speaker 1: in and think, oh, surely they won't do it again.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they will, And like, I think it's a bait
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  Speaker 1: and switch. This This was a really cool stipulation, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it overshadowed what else is going on in
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  Speaker 1: the match in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, by definition, it was a it was
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  Speaker 4: a bait and switch. There's no getting around that.
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  Speaker 2: So well, let's go to Chris. What do you have
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  Speaker 2: to say about this, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to say it's really a bait
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  Speaker 3: and switch because they never promised you that swerve was
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  Speaker 3: going to become Some people got it in their minds
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  Speaker 3: that it was going to happen, but you can't put
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  Speaker 3: that on a w I do think it was unnecessary,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think it's fa with I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: Swerve is becoming what he hated. He hated how the
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  Speaker 3: young Bucks acted, but now he suddenly wants that power,
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  Speaker 3: like the whole deal is. Swerve is a hit, a
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  Speaker 3: critical ego, maniacal asshole. He deserved to have his house
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  Speaker 3: burned down. He doesn't deserve to be the number one contender.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad Kitty won, right, Let me go ahead, Jay.
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  Speaker 4: He's had that power in the Mogul Embassy. He had
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  Speaker 4: that power before and when that when they when he
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  Speaker 4: was on his first run. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if I can get behind that idea completely.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you what I think here, and this
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  Speaker 2: is just my opinion, and I hope I say it right. Swerve,
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  Speaker 2: Strickland and Kenny Omega. Between the two of them, ten
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  Speaker 2: years from now, who's to face the company? Swear Strickland
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Omega is likely not going to be around anymore
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  Speaker 2: as far as wrestling hell. Five years from now, Kenny
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  Speaker 2: Omega may not even be or it's very very hyposthomic
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  Speaker 2: probability that he won't be around five to seven years
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  Speaker 2: from now, Swerve Sprinkling will still be damn good at that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at that barring injury. Of course, My point
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  Speaker 2: here is that it seems to me like with Kenny
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  Speaker 2: Omega winning this match, it's building toward Kenny Omega being
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  Speaker 2: an all in. To me, that's what it feels like.
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  Speaker 2: And we're gonna be talking about all in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later on in the show, so I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to get too much into it, but in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: where the hell does Swerve go? Now? He's he's nothing
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  Speaker 2: right now? He is absolutely you know, on the back burner. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Swerve is not nothing. He is a fantastic wrestler, a
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  Speaker 2: fantastic presence, a fantastic character, charisma out the wazoo. But
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  Speaker 2: this match is one of those matches that if there
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  Speaker 2: was any match that needed to end in a no contest,
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  Speaker 2: this was the match. To me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this may even be worth after this
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  Speaker 1: week's show, Kelson revisiting is a topic for next week
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  Speaker 1: to see the booking direction for Swerve, because I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to place him on the all in card and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where it's going.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're months out, but like, where who's the
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  Speaker 1: feud with?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, I mean we're less of it's
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  Speaker 2: an August. All in is in August. It's less than
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  Speaker 2: five months away. I mean, it's not that far off.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody else has some final thoughts about this topic before
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  Speaker 2: we move on.
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  Speaker 3: I think this loss is what leads to Swerve reforming
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  Speaker 3: the embassy. I think he wanted that power that number
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  Speaker 3: one can tender spot, and now that he doesn't have it,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to bring in people to help him to
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  Speaker 3: get to that next level.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me ask you this, Chris, let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you this, and of course everybody else can chime
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  Speaker 2: in on this. When I look at Swerve with the
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  Speaker 2: Mongols or the Moguls, as everybody with a brain cell
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  Speaker 2: would say, would guys swers Swerve with the Moguls, is
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  Speaker 2: he as important or is relevant as he is when
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  Speaker 2: Swerb is just Swerb and Prince Nanna. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Mogul Embassy help Swear back.
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  Speaker 3: It all depends on who ends up being part of
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  Speaker 3: the group. You know, that's a question like I can't
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  Speaker 3: answer right now because it all depends on who they
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  Speaker 3: bring in and what they do with them. I think
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  Speaker 3: if you know, you put them with the right people
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  Speaker 3: and you give them that push and make them a
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  Speaker 3: feared group, then yeah, he becomes stronger. But if you
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  Speaker 3: just put random people in there and don't really do
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  Speaker 3: anything with them, then it becomes weak. That was the
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  Speaker 3: problem the first time with the Mogul. They really didn't
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  Speaker 3: do anything with them, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Right, except except use it as a platform to elevate
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  Speaker 4: the gates of agony down the road. Swarve doesn't need anybody,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like like he doesn't like he needs Nana,
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  Speaker 4: and that's only you know, as a valet, I would say,
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to put Swerve on screen with anyone
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  Speaker 4: in a partnership scenario, it's going to be Keith Lee
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  Speaker 4: when he comes back. Either that agree, or you run
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  Speaker 4: him against each other. But Swerve is doing just fine
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  Speaker 4: on his own, and there's no reason why you should,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't think there's any reason why we
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  Speaker 4: should throw anyone else in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: No, And if he does have some folks, it's got
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  Speaker 1: to be top talent, like none of the Also, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's important to call out that run with his
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  Speaker 1: group was during the Dark Age, the dark period for
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  Speaker 1: aw W, and their storytelling was like the matches are
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  Speaker 1: still great, but like the shows, they were all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. If they do it, they need to take
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  Speaker 1: it seriously like they do the other factions. So you
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  Speaker 1: need you need, you need some top people, two three
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  Speaker 1: people tops the size of the Hurt syndicate. That type
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  Speaker 1: of group would work perfect. You get too big, it's messy, convoluted.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, Kelson and delutes the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say, I agree with everything that Shane
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  Speaker 2: and Barry just said. I feel the exact same way.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason for me to expand upon it. Anybody
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  Speaker 2: else with any final thoughts on this topic before we
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  Speaker 2: move on. All right, then, well let's move on again.
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  Speaker 2: Everything we're talking I think, Barry, you pointed this out
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  Speaker 2: on Discord, everything we're talking about in a way leads
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  Speaker 2: to all In. You know, even though all In is
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  Speaker 2: four months or a little less than five months away,
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  Speaker 2: it really does. What we're going to talk about next
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  Speaker 2: is the women's division. Tony Storm is out and for
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  Speaker 2: an undetermined amount of time, for an undetermined reason. But look,
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna step up and be the woman in AW.
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be somebody that's there now? Is
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  Speaker 2: going to be somebody new?
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  Speaker 1: When?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about some of the things that
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  Speaker 2: have happened? I mean, Chris Statlander, is she even a
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  Speaker 2: I guess a possibility because she's gotten her ass whooped
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  Speaker 2: the last couple times that she's been in the ring.
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  Speaker 2: Does she deserve another shot at something that she's lost
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  Speaker 2: twice in a row? You know, things like that Mercedes Monet,
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  Speaker 2: who was you know, wrestled in well this week I
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  Speaker 2: think to actually tonight, actually tonight, Mercedes Monet is wrestling
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  Speaker 2: in her seventh different country this year, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: the thing is, Mercedes Monet has not wrestled once in AW.
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  Speaker 2: She's in Winnipeg tonight defending her WPW Women's Championship. AW
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  Speaker 2: Dynamite is in Winnipeg tomorrow night. So there's a very
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  Speaker 2: very good chance that we're going to se Mercedes mone
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night in whatever state that she's in. But again,
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  Speaker 2: is Mercedes Monet the woman that that's gonna step up?
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  Speaker 2: Or could it be somebody like Athena and uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know Billy Starks, Zeta Steele who looked like the women's
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  Speaker 2: world champion and the men's world champion. In that match
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  Speaker 2: that she had, she was kicking everybody's ass.
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  Speaker 1: He was on fire Man.
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  Speaker 2: That was awesome. So who do you think who's stepping up?
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  Speaker 4: Well, really quick, I want to highlight a comment that
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  Speaker 4: Wolf just throw out there, Swarve doesn't need a faction
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  Speaker 4: book him against Bandido Boom Money. I mean, I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: agree with that statement more. I mean, anyone that you
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  Speaker 4: put in the ring with Swerve is going to be fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: But Bandido that would be uh, that would be a
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  Speaker 4: Dave Meltzer five star match. Sorry. But in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the women though, against THEKLA, I don't know. It's that's
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  Speaker 4: that's uh. I mean I don't Personally, I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to see thunder Rosa. I would love love to see,
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  Speaker 4: you know, honestly, for Cloud, just for Cloud. I'd love
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  Speaker 4: to see it be Britt Baker, bring back for Britt Baker,
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  Speaker 4: throw her right into the d bend. I think that
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  Speaker 4: could be a lot of fun. I think it would
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  Speaker 4: piss a lot of people off. But I think if
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't get mouthed, you know, you know Tong's wagon,
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  Speaker 4: it isn't doing its job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to touch the brit things. I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't want to think about it. If I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if she's healthy enough, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that'd be cool. I'd love to see
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  Speaker 1: her back. Question of the group too? So is this
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  Speaker 1: time to get is? I'm thinking who do we feud
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  Speaker 1: with with THEKLA? And if the program was going to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: be Tony and THEKLA leading up to all Lander down
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the road with Tony being gone, who's the next top babyface?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It's Willow? Is it time to get her away from
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the TBS title and move her back into the main
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: event scene to feud? Or do we to Calson's point,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: is it is it pulling up and elevating some people?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Amanada is coming back, but I don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: know if she can carry it from a mic standpoint?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Who else cuts fun promo? Like who's who's a solid promo?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Is what I'm thinking about. I'm really struggling here.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I want to go to I do want to go
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to the chat colored me interested said this is the
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: time to let Mina shine where she couldn't before because
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: she was a sidekick, meaning Tony's sidekick. Yeah, I could,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I could see that, and that he went further on
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: to say it says it's Mina. But to your point, Barry,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is Mina good enough on the mic? Or does she
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: need to be good enough on the mic?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to do a sustained main event program,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Like I like Mina. I think she's a lot of fun.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I think she's a great character, but she's not a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: good enough promo. I think you need somebody that is
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: at least proficient at cutting a clear promo. I mean,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: stat manages it. She's worked really hard on it. Willow's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a good promo, Feckla's a good promo, BRIT's a good promo.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Megan Bane's a good enough promo.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: She's coming around Like That's where I'm thinking. It's like
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: who who can carry talking on TV too? Feud with
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Ecla And That's where I'm coming up blank right now
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: on the main events.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: See now that Tony's up Athena Athena and Mercedes.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Monet, maybe that's the answer then.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, like miss we called this last year with
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Mercedes that she was gonna reign supreme until she doesn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and then I mean, what direction does she have to
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: go in after she drops all of her belts. She
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: already failed to get the aw World Championship twice. Now
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: it makes the most sense for that to be her
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: redemption arc. I couldn't imagine if they threw her at
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: that belt that she wouldn't get it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, she'd come back as a babyface. She's gonna
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: get a baby face pop of course.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean she absolutely could. The whole losing
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the titles could be her, you know, like she was
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: trying to do so much to prove something. But when
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: she lost the titles is when she got those standing
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: ovations from fans. When she was raped in Gold, they
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: were like, okay, to find the whatever. But then when
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: she goes and wrestles and loses and shows that heart
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and determination, that's when the fans respond there. It's like, Okay,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: we thought you were just an ego maniac, but no,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: you're a tremendous wrestler and we've grown to respect you
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: for that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I want to go back. I want to go back
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to the chat. Let me go back to.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So let just the only female on the panel.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me, let me. Let me just go to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the chat real quick, because, uh, color be interested said
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: if Osca and wwe can carry a promo, Mina can
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it has to be serviceable. And then Wolfe says, is
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Queen Amanata hurt if not pushed the queen? Yes, Queen
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Nomenada has been hurt. However, they did show she did
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: make a post on X Today showing herself working out
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and saying that she's touch you feels fine. So I
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: do expect Queen, I'm at the back really quick, Jess,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: let's go to you. Is the only woman on the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: town on the on the panel? What's hear what you
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: have to say about the women's division?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Well, Ellie answer with a question, Uh, what is our
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: eta on Bailey?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Hot?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Justin I think this is why I love talking to you.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I can I before just do you have any anything
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: else to expand on that? Like? Is that like a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: you want to know a dialogue? Yeah?
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Because I mean like if basically, if we could get
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Bailey at any time at this point, that could be
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: our answer. Can you imagine the matches that will open up?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I sat wait, So it's widely theorized that Bailey wants
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to make the jump and obviously, Mercedes is one of
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: her best friends. I can imagine that would have been
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: more than any other person in the women's division in WW.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Right now, I could honestly say there's a high probability
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: of Bailey coming over, But I want to make a
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: point about Mercedes. Like this time last year, I was
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: like preaching to the rafters that Mercedes was fantastic for
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: the women's division, and the same people that were talking
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: about her growth were calling her botch of banks. Like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: you know, like I want to be fair because you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: we all have to watch the same product. But I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: like like this this is still professional wrestling. We you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: like I just want we all want to see the
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: same thing in the end. People be safe people, you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: happy people watching their people go over.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: But you know, just to answer you which Cola reinterested
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: in the chat already did say this. Bailey is twenty
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. That is true. Her contract runs until December
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: thirty first, twenty twenty six with WWE. If she does
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: become a free agent, she will not be available until
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: January first, twenty twenty seven, which is a full eight months.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: From damn it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Ww's gonna throw everything at her too. You know that
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that's any like Bailey is. The type of talent is
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: that they're gonna throw anything at her to keep her
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: away from aw because they know it's going to put
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: a million eyes on screen if she makes the jump.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: All right, well, Chris, you've been kind of silent. What
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: do you have to say?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I like Mercedes mo make and absolutely be the person
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: that steps up. I think she can come back with
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the baby face and almost kind of slut right into
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: that Tony Storm's taught.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So if she comes back as a babyface too, because
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of people away when I was talking earlier,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why, and Shane like all of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you guys are pulling these people that can make returns,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Dune, I feel stupid. But if she comes
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: back as a baby face, like, humility always gets over,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: especially somebody who's at rock bottom. So what's that story
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: look like?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Chris, Like, if we're gonna plug her in against against Tecla,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: do you do you just put it right in that program?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Like and how do you set that up?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: That's that's the one I'm not really sure on too.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like the way to do it is to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: have her win the Owen Hart. So I think, honestly,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I think for a little bit, you just have kind
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: of I hate to say, you just do one off
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: pay per view feuds for Techla to make her a
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: dominant heel champion.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah who did? Who did? They do? The promo for
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the trio was the brawling birds and right to set
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: up the trios match and then they'll do the tags
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and the singles. Okay, yeah you can.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: You can have Mina versus techlick in add A. You know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: ladds a whole no DQ speculation, even though Nina doesn't
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: like hitting anyone with weapons.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: So if they're going to run at least through Dinas
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: see Decla and Mina, maybe well to your point, tells
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: them they're going to be in Edmonton. I think it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: makes an.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: We'll find out. I guess, well it'll be Windpeger she's
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in Edmonton. That yeah, uh. And we in the chat
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: we've had Wolf say how about Ruby? Soho uh and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: color me interested and said Ruby is training again? I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: heard and I did hear that a while ago. She
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: also was on a video earlier today or maybe it
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: was yesterday, where she was at a looked like a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: fan signing, fan meet and greet or some sort. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: she was looking really good. I mean she was looking
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like Ruby Soho.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Uh, I'm going to see if one of you guys
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: cast catches this.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: All right, go for it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Her destination is unknown. Yeah, that's the thing that's.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: There was more, there was a there was a trick there,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Was thinking I was thinking of a movie. I don't
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: know her Sweatherspoon. I don't think she'd be good at
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: AW A pretty good promo too.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a she's a pretty I mean back in
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: was it twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, she was nominated for
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Female Professional Wrestler of the Year, and that was just
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: based off based off of what she was doing in NXT.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she you know, the baby came again kind
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: of during that weird period before they pulled out of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the funk, so we never really got to enjoy her
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in a solid program where she got to shine.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: She say, one thing maybe that people can see detrimental
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: about Ruby Soho is that in your entire time with
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: WWE and her entire time in AW, Ruby Soho has
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: never held a belt. Bullshit, She's always been the bridesmaid,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: but never to bride.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: That's not true. Did freaking deal, That's not just she
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: was the She was front and center during the Owen
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: boy was it back in twenty two. That was the
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: only time she was from when she lost a Britt Baker.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: That was the only time she was ever front center.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: But it was great. I thought that that promo she
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: cut on that rampage right before that, uh yeah, that
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: match that Uh.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: At some point, every world champion in champion in the
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: history of professionals just died World champion.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Didn't Sam Martino right up though, in his first match.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my internet connection is crapping out on me here, guys.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So if I well, I just I was just uh,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: just talking listening to Chris and as Mike went out
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and I was like, Chris, you might just died, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: was like, nope, that was me. My internet connection went
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So if I go silent real quick, you know, hey, guys,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: just start talking.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Just start talking about the John Moxley action figure collection
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: she's got.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I knew that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: That's hours of content.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Hours hours of content of brother just what we want. Yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and called me interested, says Ruby, and her husband need
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to come back together, and her husband did wrestle one
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: or two matches. I know, I think, wasn't he on
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Zero Hour one of the shows like World's End? And
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I think, right, yeah, Angelo Parker. I like to say
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Angela Parker instead of her husband, but yeah, Ruby Ruby
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Solo's husband, because I that's one of my pet peeves,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: because I have a I have a little sister, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I am always introduced as my sister's brother instead of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: my name, which irks me to no end. Anybody else
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: have anything else to say about who will be the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: next aw woman to step up before we move on
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to our next topic? All right, so then let's move
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: on to our next topic. And and uh, well, this
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: one is something that I know we've talked about before,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and I kind of think like at this point, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: don't know about you guys, but I kind of feel
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like I'm wasting my breath. And that is when will
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: it finally be tied to pull the trigger between Kazutsko
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Kata and Kenoskate Takesta. I mean, these guys have been
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: in each other's faces and obviously not happy with each
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: other since around nineteen seventy three. Now, I believe, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: nothing has happened. I mean, is it to the point
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: now where aid w and Tony Kahn are risking people
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: not really caring about this at all?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ninety four per such short, the mass is
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: going to happen. It all in I and I think
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: it should. You should save their big match for that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: But you need to have something between them are substantial
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: than you suck No, you suck no, you suck Like
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: right now, it's just a boring sibling rivalry. Something need,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: something big needs to happen, and it needs to be
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: to being kicked out of the don Kallis family for
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: some reason with Okada leading the charge.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris, Yeah, Chris, Like on in our chat, color
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: me interested. Just said Takesha needs a break from to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: break from the don Calas family period.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He's got to get through mox for like they've got this.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I think how many months out are we again, Kelson?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Four or five from all in? Just under vibe like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: just under five. So to your point, Kelson, this is
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: when the meat of the story starts. If I'm reading
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the tea leaves here right, So the love triangle between Fletcher,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Takesha and Okada's going on. They're talking about it weekly.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: To cash this established that he's got one more match,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: he's got to get that title off Mox. I think
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: that happens at double or nothing. That then gives the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: leverage for the two of them to have a reason
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to fight it all in to unify the belts again.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I also agree with you. I think when he wins
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the title on Mox, that also is the night he
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: leaves the Kallus family. Don't know if he goes with
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the Death Riders the long term, I could see Mox
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: actually coming to save him at some point. I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: there's some longer term stuff they can do after the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Okada angle with that. But I think really what you
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: were getting at this is when it starts to heat
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: up because they can't draw it out anymore. I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they started the build a little too early maybe on it,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: which was the problem. But it's going to have to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: heat up now or they're going to waste the the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: rest of the four months.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Wolf in the chat said I think
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: they're waiting for all in or forbidden door. Well, Wolf,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: they haven't mentioned or give it a eight or anything
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: about forbidden I don't think that they're doing a Forbidden
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Door this year. I I personally don't think that New
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Japan for wrestling is strong enough to do it. Forbidden Door.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Good dude, I couldn't disagree with that statement more. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: if you really think about it, for the past three months,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of programming in Japan that's very you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: it's pointing towards Forbidden Door. You've got a lot of
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: top guys over there talking during promos and press drums
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: like we don't need AW. Aw's bad, like it's it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: been a thing for like the past three months. I
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: think there may be a Forbidden Door. I think it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: gonna be huge. New Japan just had a mass exodus,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: but it moved a lot of their younger talent up
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: into positions and they're absolutely flourishing as a result. That
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: all the super juniors was fantastic. We're on an AW
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: chat right now. I apologize. Uh, let me get back
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: over to Okada and yeah, krak Ge so well.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I Forbidden Door. I wouldn't be surprised July twelfth in Chicago,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: because guess what happens on July eleventh in Chicago, opening
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: night of the g one, and.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I have to disagree with you then because look, we're
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: going to talk about the g One and our next topic.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: But g One is and I may be wrong here,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: but is not the g one the biggest thing in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: n J p W. Why would they Why would you
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: lessen to g one with Forbidden Door when you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: because all the Forbidden Door is going to do with
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: anybody that's in the g One is shown that they
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: can't beat any a W wrestlers because that's what happens
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: in the Forbidden Door. That's where the Japanese wrestlers come
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to lose. It's as simple as that. Why would you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: do that? There is no reason to do that. I
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: killed the chat.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I did do something. I was waiting for Shane. You
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: were going to get to something and I cracked the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: joke with Chris and derailed you.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I apologize, you know, me and my tangents, I'm
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: you know, they've done things with Japan going over a
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: w at Forbidden Door. I agree, you know it sucks
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: because you got to call it what it is. Man,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: that's aw and Forbidden Door has been consistent like a
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: way to make Japan look like crap or Tony Kahan
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: look like crap when he's trying to, you know, forefront
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: of Noki and not know what the hell he's doing,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: you know when he did that chant thing from the
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: third year. But I don't know man Forbidden like the
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I I don't. I also don't think the g One
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: is the biggest thing that New Japan does in the air.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I think Russell Kingdom is it's their WrestleMania.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: But that's true. That's a good point. But again, though
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Russell Kingdom is one night, arguably you can say it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: one night. I know there's build toward it, but g
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: One is a what month long tournament, which.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: But it it's like the g One is like the
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Rumble though things happen at Russell Kingdom. Because things happened
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: at the g One. You know, the g One could
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: be like Royal Rumble and their money and the bank
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: will roll up into one event if you, I mean,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: if you really want to break it down.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, I do believe that if
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and I stress this, if AW and their partners do
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it Forbidden Door this year, it's going to be very
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: CMLL at Stardom heavy. I don't think you're going to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: see a lot of New Japan I personally, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: that whole thing with the build up saying I'm not
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: a fan of AW et cetera. From the New Japan
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: wrestlers doing that. I don't think that's a work. I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: think that's a shoot. And yeah, there's no reason why
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: would you want to come to Forbidden Door as a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: New Japan wrestler other than to get a contract with AW.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I would change the format I for the Bidden Door. Actually,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the whole dream Match thing the first year was fun,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: but to this point, you know, you've got one side
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that's got the why are we talking about this? Merci?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not going to talk about it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Let's topic all.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Thank you. There's so many tangents going on right now. Yeah.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you want to move on to the next topic.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Because this has something that it's something that you know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: literally has absolutely nothing to do with what we've been
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: talking about, and so it's something new and something fresh.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the g One. Uh, there's been a
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: lot of talk.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: No, don't know.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Let's we're specifically going to be talking about a w
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: participants in the g One Climax. Look, there's been a
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about a w sending wrestlers to the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: g One Climax. At least two I've heard too, maybe three. Right,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: But when you ask who's it's going to be, because
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that topic of discussion has come up on Twitter and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: on our subreddit, et cetera, it blows my mind. Of course,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: on our discord, it blows my mind that so many
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: people have different different opinions about who it's going to.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Be, and real quickly for others chime in because I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: don't want to talk first. This does cause an issue
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: because it runs during the time period of all In.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Right, the T one starts on July eleventh and runs
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: through August sixteenth, So anyone who anyone from AW who
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: is in the T one really won't be around for
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the core building time of all In. So whoever AW
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: sims is either just not going to have a match
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: at all In or likely be part of the Casino
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Battle Royals. So I feel like that leaves out your
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Takeshka Ocado Moxley, Chris.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Chris, Chris, Look, you said that about Takeshta on discord,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and when I saw it, I kind of was like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: what Taqusta is the defending. You can't use the word champion.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: The trophy holder of the G one Climaxy won last year,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: would it be kind of maybe unprecedented barring injury for him,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: not the least go and try to. I guess defend
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: is not the right word, but to me it just
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: seems like you have to say takesh.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Uh not as unprecedented as you might think. There's been
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: plenty of people that have won and not been in.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: There's been champions who were like, no, I'm not going
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to do the tournament. You know, I think it's one
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: of the Like I said, I think Okada to Kesta
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: happened at all ins, So you really have to have
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: to Kest there during that important build unless you go
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: with oh Okada does the oh he doesn't care. But
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: that would be a weird thing because I just don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: see any chance of being the heel in that scenario.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Am I right in saying Chris that Kevin Knight and
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Keno Skate Takest are the two in a W that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: do have dual contracts with n JPW.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I know does I'm not sure if Kevin Knight he does.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I know Kevin Knight does.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Uh E E maybe. Ah, God, I can't even think
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: uh kitsery not. I can't even Sada. I don't think
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: so Shabbata might belong to I know Coda, Coda had
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: a shared a.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Wrestling or who did.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Ja?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Who did? Who did Takesha wrestle at all on? Last year?
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Mox the mox Yeah, I.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Don't remember because I remember being in a pretty Hangman
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: wrestled mox at Yeah, that's right for the title. Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: So who I think Takeshta was? Uh Osprey?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Was the ta Kesha Osprey all on?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: No, No, it was somebody other than Hangman and Mox.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Well any rate. What I was going to get to is,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: if it's two to three people I think we were
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: talking about, like a bandido would be perfect. You know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Brody would be a lot of help. Put both of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: them in there would be a blast. We've seen the grinds.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: To go back and forth to Japan happens. There was
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: quite a few performers who did quite a bit of traveling.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Megan Bain's a prime example. The Lady was working the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: West and the East together, back to back to back.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: It can go. I'm not as worried about them them
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: building up during not being able to build anybody out
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: for an all in match. But Chris, the reason I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: was asking is, I didn't know if there are any
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: events that specifically were occurring around when all in happens
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: that are important to g One, like the start of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the semi finals or something where like folks need to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: be there. It's not something they can miss, like for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: kind of the qualifying rounds or the round robin stuff
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: earlier on. Yeah, I don't think the travel is going
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to be a big deal. They just had to be
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: smart with it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: The test was in the Casino Gauntlet.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Match, gotcha. So then to your point, maybe those folks
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: would be you know, in the Casino gamlet because they
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: don't have to plan anything out or be in the storyline.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because, I mean the g One is I'm assuming
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: it's going to be two blocks of ten like you
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: this year, and I know the opening night is all
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the block Act ten singles matches, but it's typically the way
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: they do shows is it'll be five preview tags and
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: then five block matches four or A, and then the
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: next night it'll be you know, preview tags and five
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: block matters for b gotcha?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, okay, So the question is who does a
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: W sen the G One Climax if there is to
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: be two, because there I mean, look, Brian Danielson, Will Osprey,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: they both and Tony Kahn obviously have all kind of promoted.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: It for me. Top names I would look at would
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: be Claudio Mark Davis, Lan Starcher. Yeah, there's a few
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: others I know I mentioned in the discord. Haye Man
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: could be a possibility.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you mentioned him winning the G one Climax.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I don't see a W. It would be a Travis
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: dyve at a w wrestler went and won the G
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: One Climax because I.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Really can like exactly what happened last year.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Because that's just it was a dual contract.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: He's a dual contract the reign. Yeah, and he did
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: recently re sign with n J p W.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So we don't do that twice in a row.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course in the chat calling me interested did say, uh,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: send Ricochet over, which which does make sense. And he
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: also mentioned a S. Austen as does a S. Austin
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: have a dual contract? That I don't know, but I
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: don't think so.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Ricochet would be fantastic, like Ricochet, Bandido and Brody would
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: be three. That would be fun to see what I'd
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: love I'd love to see Brody over there actually just
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: mixing it up.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Roder Strong a name would be good too.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of real strong
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: mid card upper mid card talent you can put into that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: That would be fantastic.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I think Orange Cassidy would get over you. Well.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I want to ask Jess to chime in here, because
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Jess has been quite silent. Who do you think should
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: a W send to the gym one climax.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Harley Cameron?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why she spends silent.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Put her on allut to mass They won't know.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Conrad from the EPW Show says, I say some young
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: guys Juda, Claudio Takeushta and Mascaraderata. Uh. And he also
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: went on to say Rush would be dope, which.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that Shane that would be should be
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: dope would be dope.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: It would be fantastic though, But I feel like he'd
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: be like a better showcase than the super Juniors even
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: though he's been around for a while. People think he's
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: like newer, but he's been around for a good decade.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You know what if any w does send wrestlers over
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: to the g one like like expected two or three.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: To me, it kind of totally removes the need to
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: have a uh Forbidden Door. Just do Grand Slam Mexico,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: which we know is going to happen, and that got
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: over really well.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this comes back to the thing I was going
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to say about Forbidden Door. I'd like them to just
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: change the format of the show. I think last year
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: they kind of hit a good balance where they keep
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: main aw storylines progressing and just use it as showcase.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Do a bunch of mixed tags, Mitch promotional tags where
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: where it's fun. Heck, put a new Japan match against
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: new Japan talent on the show. Put a CML out
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: against them, like it doesn't need to be AW versus
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and I agree a competitive sense. Just make it like
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a like a carnival of a celebration of wrestling.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's something. Conrad also said. No announcement Forbidden
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Door yet yet. That's something that I mentioned a short
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: while ago, you know, and I agree with you. I mean,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: there doesn't need to be dream matches anymore because there are.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: To me, there's none. We got want to pretty much
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: we got them so, you know, and last year people
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: were complaining that because Forbidden Door happened at the time
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: that it did, with the g one climax right there,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and of course Stardom's oh what do you call the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: five star Grand Prix, there wasn't any build up for
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Forbidden Door last year, and I was absolutely fine with
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that because I've gone on record many times since Forbidden
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Door started saying that Forbidden Door is the great momentum
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: killer for AW every time AW has fallen, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: into storytelling. Hell, I guess is the best way to
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: put it. In my opinion, it's been Forbidden Door that
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: has caused that, you know, And I don't want to
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: see people, but it should be just to show exhibition, showcase,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: no titles, nothing, just put fun matches out there for
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: people to watch.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I thought they had a good balance last year, Kelson,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you pointed out that they kept a couple of main
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: storylines and had eight just regular eight matches on the show.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Personally, I mean, how many Forbidden Doors have there been now?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Four?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Three three four? How many? Shane you and no?
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Three?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Three I did watch three, right, You're right, four I
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: did not watch twenty twenty two because I didn't give
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: a damn about any of the matches, and I still don't.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I still don't pray. But my point, my thing is
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: is that I did watch Forbidden Door last year, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I think that is the only Forbidden Door that I've watched,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was absolutely awful. I thought it
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: was awful. And I've come to realize that I don't
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: like strong style wrestling and I don't like technical wrestling
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: because I think watching Zach Saber wrestles like watching very
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: very very slow paint dry. He is the most boring
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: wrestler I have ever seen my life. His big hole
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: of last year on Forbid Door was getting Nigel Beginness
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: in a finger hold.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: But Hetcha Saro is so much different than Zach Saber
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: because at Cissaro has well he could even though he's
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: a much bigger guide than Zach Saber. Zach Saber to me,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: wrestles like a seventy year old man.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: It's it's funny because so I saw Zach Saber Junior
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: live at a Highlight arena here in WrestleMania Weekend and
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: his matchboard the hell out of mes Hu Kelson. But
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: over the years, I've realized watching Zach's match for me
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is watching Zach. I love his character and how snarky
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and sarcastik he is. But if you're not into that,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I totally agree he more than Jesus side.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: He may have a great character and he may be
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: snarky whatever, but I can't see because I'm sleeping through
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: his matches.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Well that that's my point, Like, like either either you're
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: into that and get it, or like he's gonna bore
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the but Jesus out of a normal wrestler, a normal fan,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and like that's a high risk that if you don't
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: like his character and a lot of people aren't going
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: to like you know, you're going to tune out a
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: lot of a technical people that don't like technical wrestling,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and then you're fifty to fifteen if they like the character.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I do what I mean, I do
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: want to go to the chat real quick. Color me interested,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: said maple Leaf pro at Forbidden Door. That would be
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: a pretty interesting thing, little little Mount Shocker. I hope
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I said that the way you intended that name to read.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But she he or she did point out that's because
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: all In was over a month earlier last year, meaning
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: why there was it wasn't as much build up and whatnot.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Color me interested. Uh, he's different because he wears a mask.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: That's of course alluding to to Etchisero EP show, EPW show.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, uh, said Kevin. Kevin Knight was a good call,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: and he also went on to say that I enjoy
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Zach Saber Jr. Well we have to disagree. I agree
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: to disagree on that one, Conrad.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I am styles a little different too, sorry myself.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you're you're right. I mean that's
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: what I was trying to say earlier. I mean the
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: guy can he can move. He's got a different style. Uh,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Zach's and on guard on guard to the max, says
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Zach Saber Junior versus Orange Cassidy was an absolutely fantastic match.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: It was such a contrast of styles which made the
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: match that much more interesting. Look look look look rolland
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: of course on guard is rawlins rawlins.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Whatever Orange Cassidy is in a match, there's going to
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: be a contrast of styles because nobody wrestles.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Like seriously, I want to put it out. Orange Cassidy
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: is brilliant. Yeah, like the guy and people are like,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: oh the kicks. They laugh at him like it's psychological warfare,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Like it's not meant to be funny, and it's meant
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: to annoy his opponents into making mistakes. Like you said,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: he does those little like lazy moves and they get
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: frustrated and they charge him, and he takes advantage of it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Like Orange Cassidy's psychology is brilliant. And the people who
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: just hate on him and like, oh, this is so stupid,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: they're not paying attention. They just look at the most
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: surface level stuff twenty second clips and hate on him
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: for that. Like really watch his matches and what he does,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: and you realize just how smart the got you.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a couple of interesting characters in pro wrestling,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: and since one of them, but I'm not going to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: talk about him. Worst Cassidy is one of the other
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: ones where they're just their whole build is so unique
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: because like Orange Cassidy's gimmick is what if one of
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the greatest wrestlers, one of the what if one of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: the greatest professional wrestlers in the world hated professional wrestling,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: And like that's Orange Cassidy, Like he finds professional wrestling annoying,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: but he happens to be one of the greatest wrestlers
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: in the world, So like, what did genius character and
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like you can back it up and I just it's
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: really I don't know anyway, I'm.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the whole trope of the reluctant warrior and
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: spun it on his head in especially unique way.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that tangent.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me let me put it into the
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: tangent then, because we're going to move on because we've
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: gotten far away from what the what that discussion was
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: actually about. We're going to move on to our final
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: discussion topic would kind of wraps up the whole thing
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: that we've been talking about, and it seems very weird
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: that we're talking about it right now. And that is
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: all In and EPW show in the chat actually raised
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: a question and he said, I have a question, should
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: aw move away from London after this twenty twenty sixth show?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Very interesting question. Let the guys answer that and let's
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: just look at it, you know. The question that we're
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: going to talk about all In is also isn't too
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: early to start booking for all In? I personally think
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: they've already started that TK has already started booking with
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: all in in mind. So what do you guys think?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Let's address EPW shows Conrad's question should AW move away
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: from London after this twenty twenty six show? What do
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you guys think?
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's got to be like some other like big
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: venue that like give other people a chance to feel
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: the love.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think you know they don't need
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: to like never do it again. But I think the
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: seemingly every other year plan, I don't know. I don't
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: know about that, Like I feel like it's the deal
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: you could do every four to five years, make it
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: like you know they're going to go back there, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: not every other year.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you guys this, when if we
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: were not going to go to London or Wembley next year,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: whether it's Wembley DO two or whatever, where do you go?
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Do you stay in North America?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Do you go to Australia, which I think is a
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: terrible idea because of the time difference that you would
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: lose too many fans. Japan is another place, but again
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: that's a thirteen hour difference Eastern time to Japan's standard time.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, I mean it's out there. You always have
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia ducks.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of to your point, there's been a couple
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of interesting case studies from both AW and WWE about
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: returning to the same venue two years in a row.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: We saw it with the second all in in London
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: doing significantly less than the first one. That was the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: start of some of the decline in a w in general.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: But I think that's that's an interesting data point. We've
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: got WWE right now live. You know, they did really
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: well in Vegas last year. Now there's additional factors hitting
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: them this year, but I think a contributor is that
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: they're doing the same location two years in a row. Yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: going into the same area too often dilutes the interests
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: and you never you never do as well.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Color be interested in the check said what if well,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: that's he mentioned Puerto Rico. Marcus the entertainer said, as
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: tex Stadium in Mexico.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Vegas, Baby, I'd like to see they could probably do
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: well in La Chicago, would do a good a good
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: all in. That's I'm iffy in the forum, like it's
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: hard to promote in a foreign country to show that big.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: You think they can put thirty five thousand for all
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: in somewhere in Canada or Mexico. Maybe Mexico, I don't
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: think Canada.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: What about what about the Superdome? I mean New Orleans
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: has been, for the lack of better words, screwed by WWE.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: They probably welcome me would provoke the hell out of
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: it in New Orleans, I.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Don't know how well. Like I would focus on the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: markets you draw well in and New Orleans is not
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: one of their big markets. Yeah, that's why I was
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: thinking La and Chicago off the top of my head.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you took I took the words out of my mouth.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, like the thing that sucks is I mean,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: like Europe is such a big draw for them right now.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: What do they have going on rep pro You know,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: maybe they could hit something on the other side of
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: that country, Yeah, you know, maybe target another another demographic market.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: The only reason I was thinking Canada is mL maple
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Leap is really doing good right now, so I think.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: If that's just Ontario though, like that it's not a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: whole nationwide thing. And the other the other challenge is
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to all in. Like with Mania, well, a lot of
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: WW East Marquee shows aw isn't you know, isn't there yet.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of international travels. You got to
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: pick a location that's easy to get to. I don't
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: know how easy it is to get to some of
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the other locations overseas, but it's easy to get into Chicago.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: It's easy to get into the New York area. It's
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: easy to get into Orlando, LA. I'd focus on markets
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that they draw well, you.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Know, because like the stadium that get in Texas this year,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Like it's easy to get there from the airport, perfect.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: It's easy for international travel, especially coming up from Mexico.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: When you talk about international table, I think you've got
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: to look at Atlanta Mercedes Benz Stadium. It's Atlanta's international hub.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: It's hosting some of the World Cup matches. Mercedes Benz
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: is an amazing stadium. They've done concerts there. Rustling would
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: be great there, and who could forget WCWD the Georgia
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Dome that was that was a hell of a show.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: There.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And even if you don't do there, you've got
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Georgia State in the old Brave Stadium. You can run there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: You could run Georgia Tech Stadium, Kennesas State well, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. You probably couldn do Kennesas State because I
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: don't think they could they could handle it. But like
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of places in Atlanta that had big
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: outdoor spots too. Well, not a lot, but like three
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: or four. That's an easy, easy place to get to internationally.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: When I when I went to Kanasas State University, they
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: didn't have any big places there.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, bron Breaker played football for them, so.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: The broad Breaker, broad Baker and Kelson are the two
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: most famous.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Could I offer a lot of proposal.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: A W all in dressing up as little bit of people.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, of course you're gonna have people that
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: are that are saying saying uh Columbus, and Rollin said,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: uh Cleveland.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Cleveland represents fine if they come back to Dallas, even
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: though it's technically.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, color color be interested by the way I just said,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and he and this is absolutely true. A w has
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: done too many shows in Chicago Land area. Yeah, and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I agree with that that's stale at this point.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: You know, jag Stadium is an easy one for him, right.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: No, no, it isn't construction. Yeah, it was like okay,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: they show up to the stadium. It was like what happened.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: There's no bleachers left drinking.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I think we've got some problems.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack, I think for the next two years, two seasons,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: is it? It's the Orlando Jaguars deal here in town, man, like.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: This season, in the twenty seven, in twenty twenty eight.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see them run the MLS stadium here.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: If they they did it all in here, I think
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: they could. I don't think they could fill the Citrus Ball,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: but I think the MLS Stadium they could do well.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: You know, if it was a different you know, maybe
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: five years from now, I'd say Michigan Wolverines Campus Stadium.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I mean the Big House, the Big House.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see somebody try to run the Horseshoe
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: or the Big House or Texas. You I love it.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: You don't want to run into the Shoe. The plumbing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: would be a nightmare. A lot of the seats are
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: like a bench style.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: That's who cares. I want to see one hundred and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: ten thousand people on TV. They can hold them.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, they don't want to run an outdoor stadium
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: in Texas in July or Oliga.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: If Colly interested just sets something interesting all in in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Seattle would be cool. I could see that. That's a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: really good suggestion.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Some Square Garden, baby.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I think with a with WWE running shows of Madison
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Square Garden, I think that is a thing where they're
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: doing to literally prevent a w from going there. I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: really do.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe so isn't too early to start booking, you know what?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think they already are me too.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: It's pretty clear, cal.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: You got to book the venue before you can book
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the show, right right, Yeah, but I don't know it's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: with all the people that Tony is brought in if
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: he can arrange it to where to and I and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I know this is going to sound stupid, but I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: think Zada Steeles is a star. I think that she's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: going to get a spot, uh not as a world title,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: but maybe she could be the you know, the TBS champion.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: And I think that would be a great match. Her
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: against Willow would be a really good match.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: What a women's casino. They haven't done like a women's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: casino gunlet there at all? In you men's and women
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: she wins.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: They did one last year. That's right eliminated, Uh.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Give that moment and then she gets the title match,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I mean doesn't have to win. Yeah, that's a pusher
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: that need to give somebody a belt.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: I guarantee Tony Kahan already has you know, both world
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: title matches. Is probably the tag h you know O
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Cottage in there. Like I guarantee he has five or
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: six team matches already in play.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I think the world title match may be a little
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: more in jeopardy than I believed the year a week
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: or two ago. And I think that's because of how
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: well they've been doing with m j F holding the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: belt that and I remember it was Alvarez or Meltzer
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: on one of their shows kind of kind of. I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: think it was Meltzer brought up the numbers that like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: I thought, sure, mjffer is going to drop the belt
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to Omega, and I'm not so sure anymore because of
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: how well they've been doing and I don't know if
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: we need it. If Omega Osprey would be the top draw,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the only chance they're going to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: get to do it at all, in probably for a title.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: But I think that And I'm going to say something
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: to you because you brought this up last week and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I disagree with you last week and I'm disagree with
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: you this week. Omega and Osprey is not the match
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: we're all in. I think what happens now if it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: was me booking it, which Tony Khan One of Tony's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Khan's biggest weakness is that he hasn't hired me as
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: a booker. I told him that, Yeah, I mean it's
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I mean it's obvious. I mean it's it's it's a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: glaring fault in Tony Khan's you know, repertoire. But anyway,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: if it was me booking it, I would have Kenny Omega. Look,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Kenny Omega against Well Osprey is a fine match, but
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: they're both babyfaces. There's really not You don't want to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: have a big match like that, where you want to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: have a match like hang Man out Him, Paige and Moxley.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: It all in where there's something to root for, clear,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: something to root for, Max. I mean Omega versus versus
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Osprey is not. I think where you go here's you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: have somebody take out Aspar take out Omega, and that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: person is Kyle Fletcher, and the match is Kyle Fletcher
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: and will Osprey book it? Tony? Thank you very much.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I'll be here awesome.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, you said, what do we do
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: with Swerve at all in? Where does he go from here?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I think maybe if well, you got time to do
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it though, and there's a built in story between those two.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: You can heat that back up real quick. He's the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: one that costs Omega. And then you've got Kenny out
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: of the title scene and you've got Swerve something to do.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: And those are two of the biggest startings they got.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: And it's a heel baby face match for all in.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I make ospray three happens for the finals of the
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Heart Tournament, and then it's all.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Do they run that in a pay per view? What
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: pay per view?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Do they run that.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: At double or nothing?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: The finals of the Owner a double or nothing?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Uh? The the win win fights and the winner fights
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: in the championship match. At all in, I think, and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen so many people say that Osprey is going
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: to win the Owen it's not even I mean to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: me with the Owen Heart this year, especially on the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: men's side, I mean, it's to the point where not
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are expecting anything less than Ausprey.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean you have he had you need
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: him in place to be able to advertise him for
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: all in, like legit as part of your marketing, like
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: consistently your boy is going for the belt and he's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: going to try to bring it home. So like is
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: it predictable? Yeah, that's the story they're telling, Like you know,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: we know the good guys win, right.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: And who better to have him beaten than ultimate heel
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: in Ko.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah at all in. And then to your point, Chris,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't even consider that you can get the Kenny
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Omega Osprey match, you know, out of way at double
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: or nothing.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well color me. I'm sorry. Marcus the entertainer you know,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: said what's the biggest women's match a CoA aw could
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: do it all in? Mercedes against me, Mercedes against uh Tecla.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's I don't think that's big enough.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Who's who? Like all right, so if you got Mercedes,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: like who it would have been Mercedes Tony, but like
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: who else?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, you have Tecla just go on a run
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: where she just wins, you know, pay per view title matches,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: match after pay per view title match, like you have
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: all the faces come up against her. She's able to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: knock him down and then Mercedes is able to beat
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: the big bad terror of the division.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I think it might be honest something Chris, Well, let
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: me ask you this.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: If you have Mercedes and Tekla, is that going to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: be a heel versus heel match or do you turn
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: one of them face comes back as the face, so
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: that aness is that kind of a weakness though with
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Mercedes that she doesn't work as well as the faces
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: as a heel. That was one of the big complaints
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: when she first came to AW.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: But what kind of heel Like there's a difference between
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: being a willow goody two shoes heel and just somebody
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: who's not a bad guy. And Mercedes can be somebody
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: who's just not a bad guy. She doesn't need to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: be a goodie two shoes, she doesn't need to be
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: who you expect to make the save and the baby
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: face getting beat down. But she doesn't need to be
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: a bad guy. And that's enough to be cheered as
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: a face and wrestling. Yeah, well, I think that's the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: approach they could take with.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the other thing, and again, this is heel
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: versus heel currently right now, but Mark the entertainer chimed
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: in saying, the biggest match to me is Mercedes versus Athena.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: We totally forgot about Athena.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: It's not on any w TV, that's why.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's easy to forget about somebody that good
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: because you don't see them at all.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's like not an Yeah, it's like I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: don't consider ring regular Ring of Honor talent for a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: w stuff because they're not aw talent, you know, And
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: that's a bummer. First, I think she's great.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Go watch her title match from my world.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Well, when you talk about Techla being is if Tekla
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: is not the champion going into All In and facing
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: somebody like Athena or Mercedes Monett. You know what I'd
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: like to see as champion, somebody likes Suri or Shuri.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I think, can you imagine Mercedes Money versus Surrey at all?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: All believable match?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Not Rowsey.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: You've shut your.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Tell people that it was just to promote the thing,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: and the day.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: It was the promoting. It was the promote the thing.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there was the promote things.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: The match.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: Well, she'll be back if she wins the thing that
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: I guarantee if she doesn't win the things, she won't
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: come back.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't think she'll be back.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't win the program, And.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I think I think people are put too much thought
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: at that a rounded Rowsey thing. I personally, from the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: very get go, I thought it was a one off
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: simply because if the appearance happened in Los Angeles, ronder
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Rowsey is in Los Angeles. I don't think it is.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: There's a big F you T T k O. I mean,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: that's all it was.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: It was free market testing. I mean, if you really,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: if you, yeah, it was free market testing because honestly,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I could see her coming back if she goes over
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Corino in the I can really see her coming back.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: She's huge, she's on top, she'll look good on TV
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: at that point. But if she loses, she's gonna I mean,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: she already looks like shit. Let's not get around the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: fact that she's absolutely a danger higher and she's an
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: asshole outside of combat sports. But wait, not no, not
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Steve Corino, excuse me, Gino whatever her you know, un.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Can we give back to THEKLA for a second, And yeah,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: so Kelson, you're talking to about heel versus you know,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: babyface heel or heel heel and stuff like I watched
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: THECLA and I'm watching this woman get more and more
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: over every week and I see her, especially with her
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: promo style, getting baby face pops as a heel and
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: if that run happens, I think Tony should let her
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: blow up. Don't try to force he't. Just let the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: crowd do what they're gonna do and let her be
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: her character because she's been a breath of fresh air
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: to the division and I just like, let her be
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: herself and to Crobb will react the way they react
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: and just let it go.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Very point, he'll face dynamic. It's such a great area.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have people and stuff that's well yeah,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: but I'm saying like you have outright to get plenty
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: of here.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Well very break, let me let me break in here
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: because uh, color me interested. Had that actually really question
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: and that is who can tackle her face to legitimize
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: her more? I think that's a great question. An's ask
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: go ahead, Shane.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: No, I just wanted to expand on what you know
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: Berrod said, you know, just base it off of how
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  Speaker 4: the crowd reacts at this point. Isn't that how they
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: built the w W fil Stone Cold Steve Boston And
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  Speaker 4: they just bounced back and kept bouncing back and they
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: found something that worked and loved him or hate him,
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  Speaker 4: they were still you know, put gnasses and seats with them.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what I got.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, she she came in and her style
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  Speaker 1: just works here, you know, and it's been fun to
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  Speaker 1: watch an organic rise. She made sense. They played how
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: she did very well right into the title picture. It's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: very similar to them, just kind of letting Harley organically
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  Speaker 1: get over, keep them on TV, let them do their
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  Speaker 1: thing and figure it out. And if they get over,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: let them get over. Don't try to force them. And
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  Speaker 1: if thekla Stone Cold is actually what was running through
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: my mind, shame when I was saying that earlier, like
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: he was a heel and then he just got over.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: But he wasn't like an evil heel. He wasn't stabbing people,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: he wasn't smashing cinderblocks. He just was a bad guy,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: you know. He just wasn't evil though, And yeah it
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: was an ants I just run with it, you know,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: And that's the vibe she gives off. They're not doing
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: like evil stuff. They're just bad guys, and that's the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: kind of people that I think. Just let the crowd
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: cheer him because it's a thing of respect. It's not like, oh, yeah,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: be bad guy. It's more like, yeah, this person's great.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun to watch, and like, embrace
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: that and just let him run.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: I mean that that. People love d X, people love NW,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: people love Bullet Club. These are all heel factions. Y'all.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Let them do their thing.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: We're cheering for the entertainment.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, Marcus, the entertainer in the chat made actually really
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: interesting observation here. Tecla should feud with o G champion
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Hidah britt Baker. Dyla rose to build up her, to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: build her up until all.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: In Riho bring Riho for her sacrificial lamb run. Don't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: they usually trop her out to put put a champ over.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing with Rio. Rio is actually bigger
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: than Techla. I think, so she's.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Taller, She's not.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, have you seen Rio lately? Rio is like she
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: is jack. Rio's jacked.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, you just really lean.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's lean, but she's I mean, you watch her, she's.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Oh damn, I just told a picture.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure she is.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: She's unlike Eddie Kingston ReHO could kicked my eyes.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: My god, dude, I tried to keep him off.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: When when I have to drop the yeah, I was like, okay,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: we kind of ignored it, but now I've I've broken
• 1:15:33
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• 1:15:35
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