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The MLB Report with Will Retherford & Paul Tipton (2.251.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome baseball fans of the Central Endgame Esports Report for this week's MLB Report with Will, Rutherford and Paul Tipton, and this week, we're going to label all 30 teams in Major League Baseball as World Champion contenders, playoff contenders, or not a contender at all, and the way things have started, I'm not sure they're going to be a ton of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think almost every fan base in baseball has to be kind of excited about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: something that at least they have a chance that in the American League you're excited that everybody stinks so you have a chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the National League it seems like there are maybe 11 pretty good teams and we're gonna label them right now and we're gonna get right to it before I do on one introduce Will Rutherford who he and I have a new podcast break versus Will versus the World where we
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[SPEAKER_00]: make predictions and then debate our different predictions, and then Paul Tipton, the baseball guru, the baseball historian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the group and we're all going to label every team in baseball and welcome guys and we're going to start the American League East.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should go first because I'm going to eliminate more teams than all of these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have Paul go first and every round because apparently he's going to eliminate half of the league and so we're going to respond to him each time and we're going to start Paul with the Baltimore Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they a world series championship contender?
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[SPEAKER_00]: are they contender to make the playoffs or not a contender or all should their fans just not bother anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're going to go with right now, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Bible Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen enough the only fans that you go to Baltimore to watch a game are the ones that want to get wet when that idiot showers them with the hose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where people with bucket list is that's a nice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a great stadium.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I've seen enough this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you guys are going to tell me it's way earlier than I think, but it's in May.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen enough of the Orioles, and I'm eliminating them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm not just a good disagree with you there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those lineups that we talk about eight, for eight years of like, looking out good, and youngest for Austrians, and you blink, and all of a sudden, they're not young,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I can't, I didn't think I'd be alone on the first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 15 and 19.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're only eight games behind first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're really not even.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is definitely some talent in that line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely some talent on that pitching staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they are definitely a playoff compender at the very least, the sneak in a wild card in a week American League.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going against you guys, but I see where you're coming from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: worst-run differential in the entire American League.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I'd seen that before I made my prediction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Paul, the Boston Redsucks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the other team I have also eliminated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen enough, and today was the icing on the cake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watched the Houston Astros play the Boston Redsucks where each team beg the other team to win in regulation and in extra innings, but the Redsucks refuse to win and they're going to not win enough the rest of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they got rid of the wrong scapegoat core wasn't the issue and when you have bad karma like that, it doesn't pay off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to put them in contender to see how they're going to respond to the firing, but I was going to say what Will said, I got rid of the wrong person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the wrong move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And most likely they are gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: cross the board we say red socks not a contender at all just a band-in-fin-wagged unless you just go and sightseeing right red socks fans don't even bother and the New York Yankees Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we need to bother they are clearly a world series contender.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The MLB finally has the Dodgers out of their number one spot for the first time in their power rankings and the Yankees have moved all the way to number two.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know if the Ben Rice injury today meant anything, let's hope it doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing pretty well against some bad teams in the American League.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess by proxy they have to be World Series contender but they're one and five against teams above 500 they put a really weak schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the east is going to heat up a little bit and they're going to kind of get tested.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even with an eight game lead, it would be the most Yankee thing ever to just hiss away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eight game lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess they're only a game up really on the race, but the roster is pretty good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's Jericho, he's he's going to be Jericho.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's proven over the entirety of his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been really slow with his development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've not rushed him back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he kind of got blistered pretty good in this first rehab start, but he's been pretty good since then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine by July, we have no concern that Jericho is not the ace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got 10 places.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be the most surprising thing if you missed a month of the year and still ended up in top 10 in the Saigon building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, that's a dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll just brought up the race so we will go to Paul for the race, which is one of the most interesting to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: definitely a playoff contender.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure how anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure how deep they can run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I'd put them in the World Series category, but man, they have been impressive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Although, they play the Giants this weekend and just barely won those games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the Giants look, well, I don't want to give away what I'm going to say about the Giants later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of with Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're a wildcard team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not a World Series contender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: agree 100% and the Toronto Blue Jays currently 16 and 18 poll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was the most difficult team that I had to think hard about putting them in a category.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Something is definitely definitely wrong in Toronto.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Closer problems, hitting problems, clutch hitting problems, pitching that
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[SPEAKER_03]: saved them but they are definitely floundering.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They just I don't even think teams they scare other teams much these days.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I put them in the make the playoffs but it was difficult decision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call I'll tell you what they're missing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're missing Boba Shet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what he looked for the grass being greener and he got his ass chapped pretty good for doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish him nothing but the worst For money grabbing in New York getting caught up with the snake oil salesman Steve Cohen
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't have that top of the lineup presence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Hitten 33's got 15 RBI's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a third of the entire year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dolby's getting on base in front of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not turned on that lineup over eight and nine have been awful Alejandro Kirk has been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really poultry for the beginning of this season after he really performed quite well last year at us and bargers not really stepped up from that playoff run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw Ernie Clements not really either towards springers like I thought ages eventually going to catch up with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really hard to bat 330 home runs when you're 37.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just kind of feel like this team to me that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it takes him from World Series contender probably to just make him the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to zag a little bit here because don't you think that their roster is good enough that they are a move or two away from being a contender that could be to anybody in the American League.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to put him in the level that could get to the World Series still out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the champions and they do miss Boba Chat but who's to say they won't go out and get
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably as is, they are not a world series contender, but they're too good of a roster not to make a move, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I really don't think their roster is that good Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they wrote the coat tails of good pitching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, I don't think their lineup is really that good when you break it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got earned earning commit, Andre Z. M in as Vladimir Guerrero, Kazuma, Camodo, Linen, Sosa, those are their infielders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they've got silver sluggers all over the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got one good infielder that the titty will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: day to Schneider, Mile, Strald, Art and Vol show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of those are platoon bats, and then you've got George Springer, I get what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's probably too early to take him away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got him without the shit in that lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just looks not good to be quite honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just look average, and I think that's where they end up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We moved to the American League Central, and this might be the most interesting one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of a white socks, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they a playoff contender, Paul?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, not, not convinced.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As soon as people's quit pitch into a, uh, no comma, I just don't see them hitting enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're pitching was really good against the Padres.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, uh, although the Padres seem to be in kind of a funk too, but no, I have them not making the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The coaching to everybody in a funk poll.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that could be, but I bet
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to disagree with you one bit, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's two teams that the central that get in and they're the one team that does not, I think the Detroit and Cleveland are probably too good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have underachieved up to this point a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Detroit's not playing a team above 500 yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe they haven't underachieved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is just what they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the American League so bad that they'll find their way in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I contrary to what I said about the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blue Jays, I do think that Tiger's line up is probably good enough to be, you know, what give me wrong series contender?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we had jump shape went from the white socks to the tigers, I'll say the tigers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the white socks are not good enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, although I don't believe in Cleveland at all, Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I'll say not a contender all for the white socks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cleve one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think they might win that division.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Tigers are underwhelming, but their pitching can bring them back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they can make a run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll write about their schedule too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a propatious at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I jumped ship a little bit early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think Cleveland's probably if you had to ask, I don't think Cleveland's good enough to win the World Series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're good definitely play off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess play off contender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since you're off, since you jumped off the ship will jump back on, we're on the Detroit Tigers now, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all, uh, with reservations to all agree with will, they're, they could make a run and go, they could win the American League title and go to the World Series.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's just that possible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a lot of, they're striking out a lot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure what the, uh, what the numbers say, but, uh, uh, um, I'm just, have not been impressed, but they, they have potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that they're a bullpin arm away at the deadline to being really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if there's a shaky spot on their roster, I really like that they brought Kaira Monterey into that rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is a great addition from that long relief role.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I really like Scooble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's such a good pitcher, a playoff time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's in a seven game series, he might get the ball three times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I'm just not sure you're going to be able to beat him twice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly why I'm gonna go step further.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Tigers are the favorites to win the American League as of today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was Vegas, I wouldn't put them as the favorite, but in my mind, I think they might be the team that comes out of the American League, a week American League that looks like, but they're gonna talented roster and they got a pretty good staff that can shut people down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might as well do the royals and twins together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody believe that they are contender
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and I have a one one stat, this is the only boring thing I'll tell you of the Kansas City Royals did something yesterday Saturday that's never been done in the history of major league baseball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They struck out 17 times, did not work a walk, did not hit a home run and won a game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No team had an hour done that before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think they're going to be able to win many games and they are just, I feel sorry for Bobby with in that lineup and it's just, it's anemic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and the twins have no
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[SPEAKER_03]: pitching every time a twins' reliever comes in, it's just, they're announcers are now just their suspicious of every reliever that comes out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's sad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really awful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with the royals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The twins' numbers suggest they might be good enough to be a potential playoff contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I could see them finishing third in this division and we're going to have to see how the rest of the league got a shapes up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If third in the central is good enough to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that there are the minus five run differential, there are 500 against teams better than 500 up to this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think give them some time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a rough 10 games stretch form three and seven in their last 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I see this as a team that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby, I could see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We moved to the American League West and Paul the Oakland Sacramento Vegas A's are a top of the division, are they a contender Paul?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are a contender and I was very skeptical every time we'll touted how good they are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're not a great team, I don't think, but I think they're the favorites now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're not the favorites to to play to head of the Mariners, but the Mariners better get their act together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are, they are just underwhelming everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I got, I do have the athletics as making the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't think there's any way they don't make the playoffs with some of these other teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see them as the third team in because I do think that you're going to see it depends on Toronto because honestly I think you could see where Toronto Tampa and then Detroit or Cleveland are the three wildcar teams and the West doesn't get another one that could change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with Paul though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they are absolutely good enough to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like their lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if
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[SPEAKER_01]: the pitching can hold up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, they're, they're a staff build on shaky arms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're high upside, really low floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you catch them on a bad day or a bad series, I think they can get got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really don't like that they play in a AAA field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it, it makes opposing teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the smaller dimensions it's on MLB size field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think other teams come in there and it just kind of a home run derby when they're able to play in Sacramento.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just have the lineup to win those 7 to 6 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do they do they also they have the pitching staff to lose the eight to seven games who and they scored seven runs And then they give up three in the night inning to lose that's that's kind of my concern with them And the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not not worried about it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the pitching staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay Well, they're not getting to the world series, but they can definitely get in the both of you And they definitely show that through the first month or so of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to put them in the same category as you guys
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... turn out the lights the parties over i don't see any way the asteris can climb out of uh... Jordan alvarez would have to be have to clone himself for them to make the playoffs couldn't agree more christian walker spending incredibly underwhelming as a Houston astro and they signed him to a long well not long three year but a big contract
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[SPEAKER_03]: Their bullpen is pretty weak too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the same astros, we all agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Angels?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he signs the life?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of bullpins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, stick a fork in them too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it's not Jose Soriano, they don't have it, and he can only pitch every five days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure where Zack Nido is in terms of his arbitration numbers, but he's been really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see in Joe Adele as well, I could see both of those bats initially getting shipped off for the perpetual rebuild that is the LA Angels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all agree on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seattle Mariners clearly a contender to get to the playoffs, but are they still a world series contender that we all thought before the season pole.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have the potential.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've put them in the category of the Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He should be much better, but might be able to go on a run.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'll put them in the World Series contenders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My wrong will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're absolutely not wrong at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jose Castillo's never had a year as ERA's been above 37 right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's sitting over five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I expect him to drop that down that pitching staff's going to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get Brendan Donovan who is the exemplification.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's a word of winning baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you get the him back into that lineup, which should be tomorrow, expect that lineup to pop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lead off hitter against right hand at pitching probably the five hole hitter against left hand at pitching maybe they keep them in the lead off roll, but it's been a big loss for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They this decline they've been on Absolutely coincides to when he went on the I.L.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I expect he comes back as told to that line up they figured out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all agree I haven't given up on the murders should we give up on the Texas Rangers ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want to if you'd asked me last week, I would have said no, but I'm ready to throw in the towel on them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They they lose games with bad pitching and there seems to be no clutch hitting at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not impressed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, who gives a shit, I, I just, they are the most irrelevant major league franchise probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I just hate even talking about them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They won the world's first two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And who, honestly, who gives a shit, Paul, nobody remembers that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, nobody remembers that world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What, Diamond, it's like, and it's do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad the 84 win Diamondbacks got their chance to shine in October.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, but I just, I don't care about their Rangers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, that sounds awful to say, but I hate their stadium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate how modern it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stadium in Arlington Old Globe Life was much cooler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just something about when I turned their games and I see Cory Seeger, he just pisses me off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm even if they all play off contenders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying that they're not for the sake of just I don't like them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll I'll grant you that Corey Seeger's not going to help them and also without Bruce Boachie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When Bruce Boachie was there, they were a lot more likable just to watch him walk out onto the field.
22:02
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'll I'll agree with you there.
22:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not fun.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Skip Schumacher is a former cardinal.
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, I, I, I even wasted the oxygen talking about them as long as I did.
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not giving up on the rangers.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put them in the category of playoff in Tinder.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move to the National League, guys.
22:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I think nobody's going to disagree here.
22:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, so there's an odd-down world-series favorites right now.
22:42
[SPEAKER_03]: They look unbelievable.
22:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They got behind.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I realized it was only Colorado, but they were behind a sixth and nothing.
22:50
[SPEAKER_03]: The other night in the sixth inning, and one that game, which surprised nobody, but the Rockies aren't quite the Rockies of the last few years either, so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Braves can be
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[SPEAKER_03]: anybody.
23:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And so far they have been beaten almost everybody.
23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they beat up on bad teams.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: They still have not played anybody with a winning record.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm with Paul there, World Series contender.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They're lineups awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no question.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to pick a favorite right now, I don't think anybody could really disagree that it's the
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: All right Paul the Miami Marlins are in second place in the American League East.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they contender.
23:36
[SPEAKER_03]: They're interesting and more fun.
23:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, I do not have them making the playoffs is matter of fact.
23:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to rush things along, but I don't have anybody in that division except for the brave's making the playoffs, which is too early to be calling that, but
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I've given up on the other three teams, but, and the marlins were the last one of those four that I gave up on, but I've seen enough there.
24:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul just moved it along well.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he did, because I thought I didn't want to talk about him either.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The fillies have the worst run differential, Maligue, if you had Helicun to my head and said that, and I had to say that was going to happen.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd definitely gotten shot, cartel style, the method of flaming hot mess, the nationals are the rangers of the East, perpetual hatred towards them, especially since they sign miles of Michaelis, which just immediately pisses me off.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: they just don't have the horses.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You may want them to be good, but they just don't have the horses to do so.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go against the grain because the fillies are too talented to not make some kind of push here.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll say that.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And outside, playoff contender mostly because I just wanted this agree.
24:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but also the match, you think the match are gonna make a run and make the playoffs too, huh?
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: No, just the fillies.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the Phyllis, nationally central guys, I hate it.
25:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You hate starting with the Cubs?
25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Will's going to hate it, too.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But Paul, the Chicago Cubs.
25:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to move them into, uh, with their 11th straight game it in the friendly confines today.
25:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to move them to a World Series
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, f*** them, no they're not.
25:35
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say it.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You just, I think they just have a lot of losers on their, their team.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I play off losers.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they have mental midgets.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it comes down to, wow, if they played, if it were like them in the Brewers, I,
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not taking the cubs.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, they do this all the time, where it's like, oh, they're super hot.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about them, and then they just, they have an awful July.
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a couple of injuries.
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It just derails them.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they're probably to me, if that tier A is world series champion and tier B is making the playoffs, they're right in between that.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're definitely good enough to be a world series contender, but they're the cubs,
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if we had a level one and a half here, I'd probably put them on it too, but we don't.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will, if you to told me this last year, you'd made this argument, and I think we probably did.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have agreed with you one hundred percent, but this cubs team, I've been watching them daily, and they just believe they're gonna win every day.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're different, and there's a very good chance they're gonna falter because they're the cubs, but right now I believe that they are a world series contender.
27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: really do.
27:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Should I move things along?
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You should, yeah.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: If you guys are going to call this tier 1.5, play off contenders, but not world series contenders, I'm going to put every other team in that division, including Will's Cardinals.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: they deserve to be there.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Their records are probably a little better than it should be, but they're six and one against teams better than 500.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're clearly beating teams that are good.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with everything you said Paul, except I think the Milwaukee Brewers are still world-series contenders.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody talked about what you said about the cubs, everybody loves the cubs.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Brewers have scored more, have a better run to forential than the cubs do.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are three and a half games out like that's going to bounce out at some point that they're not going to that water does find its level when you're a plus 45 run differential probably not going to be 18 and five for all but that means you're beating the crap by the teams and you're losing really close.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That balance is out.
28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The brewers are going to win 15 straight games in between the end of May and the beginning of June and then we'll sit here and say oh well how are they first place in the division and you guys can tell me I'm a genius and
28:20
[SPEAKER_03]: If they, if they win 10 games in a row, or, you know, even eight like that, you, that's a possibility.
28:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't see them scoring enough to do this.
28:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, there's a, there's a lot of teams like the Tigers and the Mariners and the Brewers that you expect to just be better than that.
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they blow out some teams, but then when you lose close games,
28:47
[SPEAKER_03]: The red should feel so great about losing close games until this weekend.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: The red differential, I hear your point and I agree with it.
28:55
[SPEAKER_03]: But you can also lose a lot of one-run games because you're just not quite good enough.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that, and if they were plus five, I'd say that's true.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They're plus 45.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They have the third best run differential in the entire league.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not know.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I do get what you're saying, but I mean, the numbers just suggest, like they're expected when losses 21 and 12, they would be winning the division right now.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when all of the record can, I mean, the cubs have a three less run and run differential than the brewers.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: If the reds are minus 22,
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: that that is a sign for a regression at some point that's not that's just at some point those the the standard deviation of those values if it pulls it pulls closer the mean well the birds did win the rest of their games in the regular season go and they still wouldn't have the answer is and they're still not winning the free world series I think you're right I think you're right but they're still I think a world series
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what will happen.
30:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I stand.
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move to the west.
30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Since we covered the, oh, I agree with everybody, the coverage of the only team in the division that is a world series contender.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And even they, I would put his outside behind the Dodgers and the brave.
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how I feel about that division.
30:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The reds I'm feeling less confident in after this past weekend.
30:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So not just the weekend.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Paul, let's go out to the desert in the National League West, the Arizona Diamondbacks currently.
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Look like they're pretty good, but in a division that doesn't allow for any mediocrity.
30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the most likable team that's on the not going to make the playoffs list, and it kind of tweaks me to put them there.
31:00
[SPEAKER_03]: the pitching has not been good.
31:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Marl Kelly's got real problems and Zach Galen is inconsistent and they can hit sometimes but their bullpins got but they're pitching.
31:15
[SPEAKER_03]: They just don't have enough pitching and they're not going to at the trade deadline.
31:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Make a bunch of moves either.
31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't agree, Paul Paul's thinking that hotstick tonight.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you, but I do agree.
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're just not good enough.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And really, the Rockies and Giants aren't good enough, either.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The only two teams, I think, that are, even playoff contenders are the Dodgers and Podgers and they're about the World Series contenders to me.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Podgers are the only one we need to talk about, Paul.
31:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not as high on the Padre's, especially some of this is fresh having seen them labor against the white socks who are in April teen.
31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So I would call the Padre's play off contenders, but not world series contenders.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, I agree with you.
32:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Not quite.
32:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they have three regular seasons and they just, I just don't believe it anymore.
32:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Rockies are
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.
32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's that rocky team tell you if they've got some mazorati's hide under their double wide carport.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Mickey Moniac is a ball player.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah indeed.
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I can rank.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I am so glad that he's out of the cesspool of this Philadelphia and got traded at LA.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Colorado is a perfect spot for him to feast.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a real stud there, I think, for a long time.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad I picked him up in the last round of my fantasy baseball draft, too.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So, whoa, color me as a guy that knows baseball, Paul.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have to say, I think the podries, I get your points on the podries, but
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We could have made this really short and just said like three teams that can win the world series.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we could have just done that.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So we sent a lot of teams that are playoff team, like the pod rays are better than probably any of the central teams outside of maybe Milwaukee and Chicago and they're probably right there in that same tier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna, I'm gonna put them there.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you like the run differential stat.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: The American League currently has one team with more than a plus 18.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Two teams with more than a plus seven.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Three teams with more than a plus one.
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I like plus minus when it's large, because that's glaring.
33:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Yankees, American League, that's it.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's a plus 65, that's not bullshit.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a number that plays, like that is definitely not something that should be ignored.
34:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that a minus three run differential is something that you should be overly concerned about on May 3rd.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: With your organization, I'm just saying, like the points, the teams that I use that point on, I think you have to look at it and say that number is big enough that it's not a joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a fake number.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not always indicative, but sometimes.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so large that it has to be it had like a minus one the marlins are minus one the podries have a minus one run differential sure that doesn't look good but that's within the the margin of like hey that's I think the reds cut line at 22 that's probably a number that I'm like okay that
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: feels like it's a bit of an issue, but as long as they're winning game, Cleveland won the division last year with a minus 30 run differential.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm probably just blowing smoke up someone's ass right now, but.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's why it can be a little deceiving because the reds bullpen when they get a lead and they go to the set up and closing nails.
35:09
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to win and when they get behind in a game, they go to a bullpen that's not very good.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the same with Cleveland last year.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that can be deceiving, but it doesn't hold up for very long that minus 20 for sure.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, things in baseball seasons, particularly with young teams.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
35:33
[SPEAKER_03]: All the central fans are going to find out a lot of things about this run differential business when the brewers play the Cardinals and the Cardinals play the Reds, the Reds play the Cubs, it's going to be fun.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially because like the central teams haven't played each other really for the most part, there's been a couple series.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cardinals just played the Pirates this past week, but they're going to play each other
36:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if God is fun.
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that the NL Central so good makes for a great conversation.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Please be here.
36:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on this central Indiana sports report.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad you come here every week and talk baseball with us.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we all agree that at the month point the National League is Braves and Dodgers to win, right?
36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: and the American League is the Yankees to win, but not that convincingly.
36:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct, yes.
36:41
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it was a good check.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll check in in a month and see if we've changed our minds on it.
36:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, okay, I'll keep this piece paper.
36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Call, say, a little.
36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.