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BREAKING: SUSPECT QUESTIONED, MISS USA HOPEFUL VANISHES FROM WORK, WHERE'S KADA · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: A suspect being questioned at this hour as a miss
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  Speaker 2: USA Hopeful seemingly vanishes into thin air from work tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Cada?
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  Speaker 2: We are being alled to believe that there is a
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  Speaker 2: chance Cada is still alive. I Nancy Grace, this is
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: In the last hours.
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  Speaker 2: Ellie Law enforcement making a public statement in the disappearance
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  Speaker 2: of Cada, the miss USA Hopeful and they are on
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  Speaker 2: the search for a nineteen ninety nine gold Toyota Camry.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, we will ask for your help and locating of
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  Speaker 3: this vehicle, which you'll get a little more information. It's
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  Speaker 3: a nineteen ninety nine metild gold Toyota Camery with a
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  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania tag of MSA X zero seven nine seven.
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  Speaker 4: But we need to know where this car is. We
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  Speaker 4: need to find this car.
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  Speaker 5: It's a gold colored Camera nineteen ninety nine. It has
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  Speaker 5: heavy front end damage on the left front bumper, all right,
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  Speaker 5: that's been described that way several times. We know it's
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  Speaker 5: been in the mount AIRYA area. We have photos of
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  Speaker 5: it in Center City, we have pictures of it in
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  Speaker 5: Grace Ferry area and in southwest Philadelphia, so it's possible
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  Speaker 5: that it could be anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: There is a very strong belief within LA law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: that Kita has been in that Toyota camera, that gold
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  Speaker 2: colored Toyota camera. This will not be the first time
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  Speaker 2: a case has been sold because of damage to a car.
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  Speaker 2: Let me refer you to the case of co Ed
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  Speaker 2: Molly Tibbets, who was kidnapped. Her case cracked because of
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  Speaker 2: damage to the kidnapper slash killers car. Can we find Cada.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take you back into that press in just one moment.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm being joined by.
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  Speaker 2: Special guest Joe Holden, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
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  Speaker 2: News Philadelphia. Joe, thank you for being with us. A
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  Speaker 2: suspect is being questioned right now. But what the public
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  Speaker 2: can do, what we can do is look for that
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  Speaker 2: gold colored Toyota camray. What else did we learn in
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  Speaker 2: the press or.
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  Speaker 6: Joe, Philadelphia Police essentially asking everybody in this city to
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  Speaker 6: stop and remember if they've seen that car, or if
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  Speaker 6: they're seeing it right now, to give them a call.
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  Speaker 6: We also learned about a suspect now being held in
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  Speaker 6: the case by the name of Keon King. He is
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  Speaker 6: charged with Cada's kidnapping. They have the homicide unit on
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  Speaker 6: this not because they believe that she is dead, but
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  Speaker 6: they are using every experienced detective to try to locate
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  Speaker 6: this sparkling, beautiful, twenty three year old and who went
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  Speaker 6: missing on October fourth. One more thing. Keon King has
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  Speaker 6: allegedly done this before. He was charged in January with
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  Speaker 6: the abduction and strangulation of another woman. That woman did
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  Speaker 6: not appear for the first court hearing, and then in
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  Speaker 6: May the District Attorney's office withdrew the charges against Kon King.
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  Speaker 6: They say this man is following a pattern of behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my stars.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden joining me, Chief investigative reporter and anchor, CBS
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  Speaker 2: News Philadelphia, you were reminding me of a case I
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  Speaker 2: prosecuted where the killer had strangled women before they lived.
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  Speaker 2: They lived, He walked just like in this case, and
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  Speaker 2: he ended up killing my victim. I'm not sure why
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  Speaker 2: that strangulation victim did not go forward with the case,
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  Speaker 2: but I guarantee you, Joe Holden, there's more in his
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  Speaker 2: than that. You don't go from kindergarten to a law
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  Speaker 2: degree overnight. There's something else lurking in this guy's background.
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  Speaker 2: Kean King, Okay, I want to go through how she
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  Speaker 2: went missing. From what we know, Joe, she goes missing
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  Speaker 2: from where she was working. There's a lot of confusion
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  Speaker 2: about what time she clocked out. This is a facility,
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  Speaker 2: a care facility.
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  Speaker 1: What is it, Joe? From where Kita goes missing.
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  Speaker 6: So it's an assisted living facility in the Chestnut Hill
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  Speaker 6: section of Philadelphia, beautiful part of town. We learned from
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  Speaker 6: police just moments ago. She's at work for at most
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  Speaker 6: twenty minutes. This is ten o'clock on a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 6: October fourth. She clocks in and then she clocks out.
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  Speaker 6: Police say, now she is in communication with this Keon
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  Speaker 6: King guy, and they leave together. She is not seen
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  Speaker 6: after that. Nancy, there are no cameras. There are no
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  Speaker 6: cameras in the parking lot. Tell us that of all
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  Speaker 6: of the evidence they could have, they are missing the
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  Speaker 6: basic with when she leaves this facility, where the hell
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  Speaker 6: does she go?
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: October fourth, Joe Holden, I do not believe that there
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  Speaker 2: is not a scintilla a trace.
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  Speaker 6: She literally vanishes, she vanishes, She's not I mean, how
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  Speaker 6: long we have.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Joe Holden, let me call you on something.
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  Speaker 2: I find it very difficult to believe that it missed
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  Speaker 2: at USA hopeful went willingly anywhere with Kean King.
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  Speaker 1: You said they left together.
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  Speaker 2: That may be true, but I don't know whether it
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  Speaker 2: was willingly. Joe, I lived in the Chestnut Hill area
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  Speaker 2: and this is not, uh the worst area of town.
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  Speaker 4: Not in the least.
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  Speaker 6: It is one of the nicer parts of Philadelphia. This woman,
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  Speaker 6: we don't know how long she was interacting with this
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  Speaker 6: Keon King, but let's just say for a fact, we
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  Speaker 6: know her phone goes dead not long after she leaves
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  Speaker 6: her place of employment. It has not been on since,
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  Speaker 6: according to investigators. But guess what. What information they did
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  Speaker 6: have with that phone is then paired with another phone,
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  Speaker 6: and that other phone they then used to go all
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  Speaker 6: over and track around her whereabouts. And then last week
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  Speaker 6: there was this massive search at an arboretum three miles
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  Speaker 6: from where she worked, and we know that they turned
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  Speaker 6: that place upside down. Today we found out they really
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  Speaker 6: didn't find anything useful in their investigation, but they've tracked
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  Speaker 6: phones in and out of that property a few time since.
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  Speaker 4: Police announced just last Wednesday that.
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  Speaker 6: They were searching for this twenty three year old woman
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  Speaker 6: and then boom, there are phones coming and going from
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  Speaker 6: this property. They're tracking technology has police right on their tails.
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  Speaker 6: And then today they make this arrest the charge of kidnapping,
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  Speaker 6: and we got to wonder they wouldn't say, but what
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  Speaker 6: statements or comments is mister King providing to investigators to
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  Speaker 6: possibly lead them to Kata Scott.
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  Speaker 4: Where is she?
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden is with US Chief Investigative Reporter anchor CBS
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  Speaker 2: News Philadelphia. Joe, what I'm saying is when I was
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  Speaker 2: living in the Philly.
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  Speaker 1: Area, and this is way back after my.
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  Speaker 2: Fiance was murdered, that was a safe, a very safe
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  Speaker 2: area where that assistant living facility is. And what I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting at is along that route there has to be
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  Speaker 2: ring doorbell cam, there's got to be a redlight ham
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  Speaker 2: something to pick up on where Cada was taken.
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  Speaker 1: And that gold Camri, that Toyota.
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  Speaker 2: Camray and that is why we got to find that
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  Speaker 2: camera because it's going to give up evidence. See that
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  Speaker 2: damage on the front driver side, that may be a
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  Speaker 2: distinguishing mark between that and every other gold Camri. M
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  Speaker 2: mother s Serious x X ray zero seven nine seven
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  Speaker 2: m mother s serious x X ray zero seven nine
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  Speaker 2: seven to all our trucker friends listening now, please help
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  Speaker 2: us find this Toyota Camry A ninety nine gold in color. Again,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden, I guarantee you somebody has a doorbell cam Now,
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to what you were saying
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  Speaker 2: about the phones traveling together. I've seen that in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of investigations. Specifically, just an example, I'll throw out
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  Speaker 2: Alex Murdock. He was traveling along with his wife Maggie's
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  Speaker 2: phone until it was thrown out the window. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so that tells me she was in the car for
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  Speaker 2: that period of time, but very quickly, according to the parents,
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  Speaker 2: her phone started going straight to voicemail. What can you
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  Speaker 2: tell me about the route the two phones traveled together?
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  Speaker 6: So the route we know from leaving the assistant living facility.
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  Speaker 6: Police are guarded in providing specific fix on that we
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  Speaker 6: know that it is with then another phone, but they're
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  Speaker 6: not saying much about where it goes from there.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that they're not saying anything, Joe Holden tells
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  Speaker 2: me it's critical. They're probably looking all around this route
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  Speaker 2: to determine if there is a vacant lot if there
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  Speaker 2: is somewhere where she could be being held.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get the.
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  Speaker 2: Oppressure from law enforcement, Joe that they believe there's a
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  Speaker 2: chance Kada is still alive.
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  Speaker 6: That's how they're operating that we need to find Kata Scott.
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  Speaker 6: We need to find miss Scott. We heard from the
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  Speaker 6: District Attorney's office. They have so much manpower looking for
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  Speaker 6: this beautiful, young, vibrant lady who competed in beauty pageants.
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  Speaker 6: Her father told me last week she was sort of
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  Speaker 6: new to it, but loved it, and they supported her.
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  Speaker 6: They wanted her to go far, and her dreams were
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  Speaker 6: coming to reality. And now all of this pressure to
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  Speaker 6: find her, and they have a man that they believe
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  Speaker 6: to be central to her disappearance sitting in the homicide
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  Speaker 6: unit here in Center City Philadelphia, who has to answer
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  Speaker 6: for what happened after they met up on Saturday, October.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still not buying into the phraseology of meeting up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not down with that because this is a guy
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  Speaker 2: that strangled another woman.
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  Speaker 1: What is she doing with him?
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  Speaker 2: I also know that she said she had been being
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  Speaker 2: harassed in the days leading up to her disappearance, and
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  Speaker 2: there's absolute evidence that that is true. But I want
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  Speaker 2: you and I are talking about Kada because we've been
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  Speaker 2: investigating her. We've been researching her, We've been watching her,
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  Speaker 2: speaking to her parents, looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Her all one.
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  Speaker 2: I want everybody else to meet her. Joe, don't move,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden. Everyone, here's Kada.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Kita, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's up of content.
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  Speaker 8: I want to do it.
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  Speaker 9: I think I want to do.
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  Speaker 7: Lifestyle fish and girl talks, but this is the same
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  Speaker 7: thing for today's is pretty pretty pretty cendrius and also
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  Speaker 7: I'm period.
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  Speaker 4: With these pretty.
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  Speaker 7: Perfect glass space pretty much.
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  Speaker 9: Just going outside to look pretty, like, go to cafe
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  Speaker 9: and just be productive. I don't want to make my
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  Speaker 9: son knows and stuff for YouTube because I get backing
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  Speaker 9: to YouTube. I want to make my summer plan and
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  Speaker 9: my education plan and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 9: gonna tak out when we want to see what the
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  Speaker 9: day brings us.
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  Speaker 2: But that is from at one dash Cada on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden. I swear I think I'm going to be sick.
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  Speaker 2: She is so beautiful and vibrant, and she reminds me
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  Speaker 2: so much of my daughter, you know, planning her outfits,
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  Speaker 2: in her makeup, in school. This girl has just turned
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  Speaker 2: twenty three. She's a little baby Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Charming, beautiful, lovely.
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  Speaker 6: She had plans, she had education plans, she had fashion plans.
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  Speaker 6: And I know you're not buying that this whole meetup,
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  Speaker 6: and maybe police are being guarded about the interactions, but
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  Speaker 6: they're apparently now uncovering that she must have fallen into
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  Speaker 6: the arms of a monster, of a predator, of a
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  Speaker 6: man who has been charged once before with this type
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  Speaker 6: of behavior. And now the question is is Kata Scott
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  Speaker 6: still alive? They're asking the entire city to look around,
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  Speaker 6: essentially for that Toyota Camery. Police said it had been
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  Speaker 6: in Center City, Grace Ferry, all of these different neighborhoods
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  Speaker 6: they're not even close to together. This car has been
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  Speaker 6: all over the city since last week, and now they're
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  Speaker 6: asking the public like find the car. We believe Kata
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  Speaker 6: Scott was in it, as well as the suspect in
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  Speaker 6: her abduction, mister Kean King.
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  Speaker 2: Is he keeping her alive somewhere? Where is Kada?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Joe?
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  Speaker 2: Him driving all around does not give me a good feeling.
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  Speaker 2: About why was he driving that car all over the
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  Speaker 2: city and beyond.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, It's not like he was going to.
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  Speaker 2: The grocery store in bat Or to work in back
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  Speaker 2: like most of us do. Why is he just rambling
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  Speaker 2: around after he's taken Kata.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: What more can you tell us about your thinking on this,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Holden.
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  Speaker 6: My thinking is that last week when police were crawling
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  Speaker 6: through this arboretum in East Germantown section of Philadelphia, they
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  Speaker 6: had something good to go on there.
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  Speaker 4: I believe they really did.
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  Speaker 6: And then the car is all over the city from
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  Speaker 6: one point to the next, nothing geographically makes sense. He's
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  Speaker 6: moving around, he's doing something, and they had a tip
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  Speaker 6: of some magnitude that brought them to that arboretum. Yet
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  Speaker 6: they say they really didn't they didn't find much, But
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  Speaker 6: I think there was something there. I know from my
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  Speaker 6: sources they recovered a lot of stuff. They were trying
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  Speaker 6: to process what it could mean for her disappearance. I
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  Speaker 6: think that that arboretum is going to play a major
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  Speaker 6: role as this investigation develops.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, you keep saying arboretum.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, explain to everyone what that is? And did law
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  Speaker 2: enforcement call in cadaver dogs.
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  Speaker 6: The dogs were there, the cadets were there just to
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  Speaker 6: walk a grid search linking almost arm in arm. It's
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  Speaker 6: a fifty five acre property in East Germantown, densely wooded.
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  Speaker 6: They went through this property with a fine tooth comb
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  Speaker 6: just on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: They gathered a mattress.
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  Speaker 6: They got there's some other evidence that they weren't willing
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  Speaker 6: really to disclose.
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  Speaker 4: But what they did pick up now.
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  Speaker 6: Today they're saying was really not really successful in terms
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  Speaker 6: of the investigation moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: But thank god, and they got Joe that she's not
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  Speaker 2: buried out in an arboretum somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Look at it. This is dance as a Jungle. Thank god.
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  Speaker 2: The few things they found we think are not connected
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  Speaker 2: to Kita.
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  Speaker 6: Right, correct, Correct, at least at this point now, because
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  Speaker 6: they're saying the arboretum proved to be rather unsuccessful in
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  Speaker 6: the big picture.
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  Speaker 1: This reference at CBS Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, everybody, my name is Kita.
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  Speaker 10: And.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's up at concent. I want to
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  Speaker 1: exude it.
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  Speaker 9: I think I want to do.
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  Speaker 7: Lifestyle fish a girl looks, but this is since I'm
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  Speaker 7: being as is pretty pretty pretty cendried, and also I'm
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  Speaker 7: curious is pretty.
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  Speaker 9: Perfect, glorious, pretty much just going outside to look pretty,
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  Speaker 9: might go to cafe and just be productive. I don't
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  Speaker 9: want to make my son knows and stuff for YouTube
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  Speaker 9: because I gamba continue to I want to make my
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  Speaker 9: summary plane and my education plan and stuff like this.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm going to see I would want to
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  Speaker 9: see what the day brings us.
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  Speaker 10: Kata was building a life. She loved running businesses, volunteering,
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  Speaker 10: and sharing her journey online. But then the strange calls started.
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  Speaker 10: She grew more cautious of what she posted online and
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  Speaker 10: told her family she was being harassed.
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  Speaker 2: As we go to air, we are trying to absorb
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  Speaker 2: everything we've just learned.
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  Speaker 1: At an LA law.
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  Speaker 2: Enforcement press conference regarding Cada, they seem to indicate they
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  Speaker 2: believe Kada is still alive. The miss USA hopeful vanishes
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  Speaker 2: from work. We worked at a ritzy assisted living center.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: She is absolutely gorgeous. Let's dip into that pressor and
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  Speaker 2: see what we learn.
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  Speaker 5: Our evidence is pretty clear that she was in communication
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  Speaker 5: with an individual.
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  Speaker 4: That individual appears to meet.
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  Speaker 5: Her very shortly after she leaves her place of work,
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  Speaker 5: and very shortly after that, she disappears.
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  Speaker 4: Off of the footprint.
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  Speaker 5: We have a lot of digital evidence, video and other
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  Speaker 5: which provides us with this individual but a name m
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  Speaker 5: keeon k e o n King ki Ng. We believe
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  Speaker 5: this individual and through our evidence we were able to
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  Speaker 5: charge this individual.
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  Speaker 2: Chion King recently tried to strangle a woman. She lived
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  Speaker 2: then dropped the prosecution. She was at FTA failure to appear.
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  Speaker 2: Why joining me an all star panel? But I want
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  Speaker 2: to go straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. You're joining us
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  Speaker 2: Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, leading a team of expert
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  Speaker 2: investigators around the world specializing in locating missing people. You
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  Speaker 2: can find him at uspasecurity dot com. Brian, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like that he is driving around all around town because
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  Speaker 2: when I've seen that happens, it's off a normal route.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's not like you going to work.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to your your site where you're working
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  Speaker 2: in your case, going to the grocery store, going to church,
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  Speaker 2: going to senegague, going to the school to pick up
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  Speaker 2: your children.
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  Speaker 1: It's none of that.
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  Speaker 2: This is just driving aimlessly around Philadelphia and the suburban area.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I lived in Philly.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of places you could hide a
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  Speaker 2: living person, abandoned buildings, all sorts of places or worse,
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  Speaker 2: what do.
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  Speaker 1: They need to be doing right now, mis Gibbons.
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  Speaker 11: As you saw in that Philly police press or Nancy,
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  Speaker 11: everything is focused on this ninety nine gold colored Toyota.
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  Speaker 11: They are tracking that vehicle all over the city. Now,
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  Speaker 11: as you brought up, this is outside of a normal
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  Speaker 11: behavior pattern. This vehicle is seen in the last ten
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  Speaker 11: days in the north of the city, in the south
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  Speaker 11: east west, inside of these densely wooded areas that are around.
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  Speaker 4: These population centers.
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  Speaker 11: So right now, the public's role is to help find
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  Speaker 11: that vehicle. What police are doing is everything at their disposal,
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  Speaker 11: license plate readers, ring cameras, security cameras, any footage of
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: that vehicle, along.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: With Keon King's cell phone. That's what they're tracking right now.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Guys were showing you the car again. Let's take a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: look at it. This is a ninety nine golden color
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Toyota camery. Look at the damage on the front left.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Look at that and along the driver's side of the car.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Looks like he sideswiped somebody at some point. That may
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: be the key to finding Cada. I'm also curious about
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the moment they took him into custody for questioning where
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: was he? Where had he been? Can he be tracked
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: by his cell phone?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: The reality is Derek Smith is joining me a criminal
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: defense attorney website dwsmith Legal dot com. Very often we
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: can get in a jousting competition with local carriers like
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: at Verizon T Mobile, and you have to give them
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a subpoena and that tykeson Fraira to get the records.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: When there is an emergency, an emergency request by police
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and a life hangs in a bounds, you can get
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: those records a lot more quickly. Agree disagree Derek Smith Absolutely, Nancy.
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: I mean in cases of emergencies, there's laws, there's statutes
• 21:22
  Speaker 12: in place that enable law enforcement to speed up the
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: process and get necessary documents or information from third parties
• 21:29
  Speaker 12: in this situation, such as cell phone carriers, in order
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: to triangulate, try to figure out where these people may
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: be if they're using their phone. Obviously in this case
• 21:38
  Speaker 12: we saw that the phone was turned off. There's other
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: things that they can do in order to speed things
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: up for st to an investigation.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, hold on, Derek Smith, don't go to com four
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: on me.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Listen, you throw out the phrase triangulate, Explain to everyone
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: what that means. And remember, we don't have to look
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: for just her phone that was apparently cut off. We
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: can follow his phone as they were traveling together. If
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he cut her phone off, that doesn't mean her phone
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't still with him. Okay, explain triangulation quickly, yes, Nancy.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: So these cell phone providers, can you know, with the
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: FBI local law enforcement, they can track a person's whereabouts
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: pursuance if they have their phone on them. They use
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: the simcards and they can follow their progress either where
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: they're driving in a car, where they're walking on the street.
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: They can use the pains off local cell phone towers
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: to get kind of an idea of where they are
• 22:31
  Speaker 12: geographically and follow their path to see where they're going,
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: where they may have just started evidence. If they stop
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: in a certain area for a period of time, they
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: can say, all right, the cell phone pain stopped for
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: about ten to fifteen minutes, Why was this person in
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: this area for this period of time. Let's go check
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: that area out, and so on and so forth, And
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: that stuff is very important in an investigation, especially in
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: the missing persons to find out where they may be
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: and where.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: They may have gone.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Joining me as you met at earlier Bryan Fitzgibbons, USPA
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Nationwide Security, who expertise is finding missing people. I find
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: it disturbing that she had the overnight shift right and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: then suddenly she just clocked in and then suddenly leaves,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and from what we're being told, she had never done
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: anything like that before.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I find that to be very primitive. In other words,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it proves something to me.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Like, if you got up from that seat and that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: studio right now tonight and walked out, I would know
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: something was horribly wrong because you've never done that before.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I would assume there was an emergency similar to what
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Kita did that night at the assisted living where she worked.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: She had never done that before, well out of the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: course of her normal behavior.
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: Nancy, and we also see in the videos that she's
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: sharing that this is incredibly disciplined young woman with goals.
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: She's got a prayer wall hung up on an on
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: her bedroom wall, she's talking about her education plan, she's
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: got fitness goals that she's pursuing. This is not somebody
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: that shows up to work and just bounces twenty minutes later.
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: So taking that in conjunction with the fact that she
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: was receiving these harassing texts and phone calls, this is
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: very concerning and out of the ordinary.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Now this is a warming but looks can be desaving.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Making it very clear that the case was shifted to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: homicide because we have the most experienced investigators in our
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: homicide unit. They have the most experience dealing with all
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: types of investigations. They also have the most resources available
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: to them, and so we have the hopes that we
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: are still treating this as if Miscott is still alive,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: and that's why we want the public health and trying
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: to locate every single piece of this. But I just
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: wanted to make that clear because I know there's been
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: some reports once it shifted over to homicide, folks understanding
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the why, and so that's the reason behind that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Very often we see a case go from kidnapping to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: homicide because homicide has more resources. That's very very common
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: way in Fitzgibbons.
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: You're going to have more detectives in that work homicide
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: number one. Number two, the resources that they.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Have to fire out search warrants.
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: The technological resources and savvy and know how it's going
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: to go way up. So bringing them in makes a
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: lot of sense in something that we've seen across the
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: country number of.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Times, guys, the case has been it's been declared now
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a joint effort between kidnapping and homicide. Homicide has a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: lot lot more resources, detectives, power.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Expertise, you name it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And that's why that's the cream of the crop that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: goes to homicide. I want to go to doctor Jerlyn
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Utter joining as clinical psychologist specializing in psychological evaluations and
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: risk assessments for people involved in the criminal justice system.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: She's the author of main lining Philly. Doctor, thank you
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: for being with us. I would like to get in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: your mind just a moment to discuss the psychopathy behind
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: someone that kidnaps a young woman and then keeps her hostage.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so when you talk about somebody like Kean King,
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: you want to keep a couple of things in mind.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: The first thing is we know that he has engaged
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: in kidnapping and strangulation in the past, and unfortunately, what
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: happened with that case is that he was not rimanded,
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: he was not charged. And when you think like that,
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: when you're somebody that has gotten a way with hurting somebody,
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: with kidnapping a woman, and there's been absolutely no type
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: of repercussion. What happens is we tend to see an
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: escalation of violent behavior. There's complete disregard, and there's also
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: a sense of entire when you look at psychopathy, that
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: he keeps getting away with it. I'm smarter, They didn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: catch me this time. I'm bold and boldened to continue
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: to escalate behavior and do what he wants to do,
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: essentially in order to you know, like feed his own needs,
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: wants and desires. Because there hasn't been an opportunity where
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: he has been checked by the law or checked by anyone,
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: his behavior from a risk assessment perspective, will continue to escalate.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I find interesting about what you just
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: said so many things, jerlen Utter.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Look at the fact that when he strangled the last victim,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: it was apparently to subdue her.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: She lived.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean again, when you talk about something you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: like strangulation, and him trying to do that in an
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: effort to quiet her or to keep her. The intention
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: may not have initially been to kill her, but to
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: quiet her. However, there's a lot of other things that
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: are at play. You know, this is somebody that's putting
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: their hands around someone's neck and they're strangling. Then he
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: doesn't know, he's not a medical professional, he doesn't know
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: how far he can go before he can actually kill
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: her or really, you know, hurt someone. The other thing
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: that we really want to think about, and I understand
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: that it's really easy to be angry, rightfully, so at
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: somebody with such a violent history and then has such
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: violent behavior, is is there another severe mental illness at
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: play here? Yes, we're talking about somebody that can be
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: a sociopath that has no respect for women. You know
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: that he perhaps wanted to assault her and hurt her. However,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: is there something else that's happened on her? We don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: know that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You are not in any way suggesting just because someone
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: is a violent criminal that they have a mental illness.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I hope that's not where you're going, because we have
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: no indication at all Kean King has any type of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: mental illness, just that he's mad as hell.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well you can be that. You can be a
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: total scumbag, you can be mean as hell, you can
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: be in evil person. My suggestion is that both of
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: these things can happen at the same time. One of
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: them can happen, and you can just be pure evil.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: So it would be very interesting as homicide continues to
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: question this individual to see if there's also anything else
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: at play, not as an excuse, but to gain more
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: of an understanding of perhaps why he engaged in this behavior.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Don't you think right now, doctor Utter, that what we
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: need to focus on is finding Kada as opposed to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: answering the fundamental question of what the hell is wrong
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I don't really care what's wrong with him. I want
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to find this girl alive.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not exploring or splunking whether he is mentally ill.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: He's driving around town and a ninety nine gold prior
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: to Camery with this girl in it against her will?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Why why ask why? I want to focus on would.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He keep her alive? Is she alive tonight? His last
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: victim chapt alive.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So I've got two choices.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Either that's his mo motus operandi, method of operation, that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: what he does, which indy case Katea.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Could be alive, Or that's him with his baby.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Training mills on and he's graduated to something worse.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: That's where I'm going take a listen to this.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: She was last seen a week ago tomorrow night, shortly
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: after arriving for her shift at an assisted living facility
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: in Chestnut Hill. She was at work for a brief
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: period of time, and that's it. That's the last trace
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: of her, according to police. Her workplace three miles from
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: where the search is underway right now. Police wouldn't say
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: how long their investigation may take here.
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: She came home at nine forty five pm Saturday night
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: on October the fourth, and then left out that five
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: I'm sorry, left out at nine to fifty that night
• 30:47
  Speaker 13: to go leave for work and the normal any other
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: night she came in. She says, she got a little
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: word ten and six am, and then she needed to
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: use the cause. Okay, she lef out.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Some of that from our friends at CBS Philadelphia. Guys,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to the bottom of her exact
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: movements and what happened that night. We also learn that
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of investigative work was done at that arboretum
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: that you keep hearing about, and we're showing you video
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of that. It's very densely forested area. It covers over
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: fifty six acres it's vast, it's huge.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It's been there for over one hundred years.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: This video from our friends at Philly CBS. There's a
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: million places that she could be within this arboretum. This
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is from our friends at CBS three and ky W TV.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: You know, this is what we know of what happened
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that night.
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: Listen, Elise are desperate lease searching for miss Pennsylvania hopeful
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: twenty three year old Kata Scott, a reason penns day grad.
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: Last scene at the terrace at chest Nut Hill. Shortly
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: after clogging in for an overnight shift at the nursing Homeaturday,
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: October fourth, Kada did not return home, her car found
• 32:04
  Speaker 14: still part of the facility. Kata five foot six, one
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: hundred and twenty pounds long, black hair, wearing black scrubs.
• 32:11
  Speaker 14: Anyone with information Philadelphia PD at two point five six
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: eighty six tips.
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: Never came back on Sunday morning at all. She supposed
• 32:20
  Speaker 13: She supposed it out off at six am.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I'll regover.
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: Around ten thirty am, she nod in the room the
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: way to we found I still calling the phone straight
• 32:28
  Speaker 13: the voicemail.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: She will always come home regardless, and.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: Then she would never have her phone off that lone
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: ever shell always find her charge lead Kiah, Something's wrong,
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: CBS Philly.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: Kato worked overnight shifts at a senior care facility on
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: the night she disappeared. She left her ship early, something
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: completely out of character. She didn't call her family, didn't
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: check in, and hasn't been heard from since.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Right now on APB out for a gold Toyota Camra.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: It has a lot of much to the driver's side
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: front along the entire driver's side.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Look at it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Tag number M mother s sirius x X ray zero
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: seven nine seven msx zero seven nine seven.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Well more do we know? Listen?
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: Kata's mother says the nursing home, giving conflicting information on
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: how long Kata stayed. They first report Kata works her
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: entire shift, but later say she went on break around
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: ten forty and did not return. Another employee says Kata
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: clocked in to relieve a co worker, but walked out
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: with that coworker ten fifteen. There are no security cameras
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: in or outside the building.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: So Philadelphia Police detectives are asking the public for any
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: information that may help them locate twenty three year old
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Kata Scott. The young woman last seen at work on
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Saturday night around nine forty five at the Area Nursing
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Home in chest Out Hill, where she had clocked in
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: for a shift. Now here's what detectives are telling us.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: Scott clocks in and then clocks out rather quickly and
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: did not work a full shift.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Scott's mother reported her missing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: The following deck that from our friend Joe holding it
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Cemius Philly.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, the mother calls.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Kata's mother calls when she doesn't hear from Kata, and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: this is what she says happened.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Conflicting stories.
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: So I called on Sunday one around eleven am. Whoever
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: answered the telephone stated that she checked with the supervisor
• 34:35
  Speaker 13: and Kata worked her full shift from ten pm to
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: six am, and she wasn't there currently. So I said, okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: you know, and then I left her. I saw calling
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: the hospitals and everything around in the early afternoon because
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: I was concerned. I was thinking, maybe we said car
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: accident something, you know, she just not not going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: come home and sleep, and even if she went somewhere else,
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: she's still would have came home first. So or afternoon
• 34:58
  Speaker 13: I was calling the hospital. So at that point the
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: phone contact with her father and then he said he
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: didn't hear from us.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: So we start calling nine one.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: One CBS Philly straight out of Sydney Sumner Crime Stories,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: investigative reporter. The mom got conflicting stories and the first thing,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you know, Sydney, that must be done is to nail
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: down the timeline.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: What do we know?
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: So she left home at nine to fifty pm to
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: make it to her ten PM shift. The nursing home
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: is not far from her home at all, just about
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: a mile and a half. So Tata arrives around ten
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: PM for her shift, she clocks in, and she's gone
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: by ten twenty. This according to Philadelphia PD. Now, first,
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: the nursing home said that Taita worked her entire shift
• 35:42
  Speaker 15: and didn't leave until after six am. But we call
• 35:46
  Speaker 15: back and we learn, oh, well, maybe she left on
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: break at ten forty and that's the last time we
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: see her. No, maybe she walked out with an employee
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: at ten fifteen. So lots of conflicting information, but it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 15: been confirmed she was there for just about twenty minutes.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, I find that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Very disturbing that for the first time she leaves work early.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Now I want to circle back to what we know
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: about Keon King and his quote similar transaction.
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: When I picked up this investigation, one of the things
• 36:17
  Speaker 16: that our office also learned was that he did have
• 36:20
  Speaker 16: a previous case. It was a twenty twenty five case
• 36:24
  Speaker 16: for very similar conduct strangulation and kidnapping. That case had
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: been withdrawn by our office based on the witness failing
• 36:32
  Speaker 16: to appear at court.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I pulled that file.
• 36:35
  Speaker 16: And after an extensive review of it, our office made
• 36:37
  Speaker 16: the decision to refile those charges.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Now they're thinking of refiling those charges. That is a ploy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Derek Smith joining me veteran at criminal defense attorney. When
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you suspect somewhat of wrongdoing and this is completely constitutional,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: so don't tune.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Up on that. Smith.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: You find another offense you know they did, and you
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: charge them.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Then they're stuck.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: They're behind bars and you have a chance to find cada.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You see where I'm going with this. Explain what they're doing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: Well, Nancy. They're trying to put heat on this guy.
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: I mean, why why would he talk? He has no
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: reason to talk. I mean I tell a lot of
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: my clients, you know, if you don't have any present
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: or another council there with you, it's probably not in
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: your best interest to talk because you're going to incriminate
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: yourself or give them information that can lead to a
• 37:28
  Speaker 12: possible other issue that you might have. So they're going
• 37:31
  Speaker 12: to need to find something on this guy and whether
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: it was a previous indictment that they dismissed without.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Press Excuse me, put him up, Derek Smith, what do
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: you mean they're going to need to find something? It
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: fell on their head, please on a silver plat the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: top of a Christmas tree. They don't have to go looking,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and me, Sherlock Holmes. He's already strangled one woman and
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: she dropped charges. Hello, they don't have to go searching.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's right there there. And Diet the case of the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: other strangulation.
• 38:06
  Speaker 12: Well, well the problem with that is why do they
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: drop it in the first place. I mean, if there
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: was no substance on the problem to bring the case
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: forward without the victim, that's why they had to drop
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: the case initially. But I understand, you know, bring in
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: the case back up, Get this man in this system,
• 38:20
  Speaker 12: get him back behind bars, put some heat on him
• 38:23
  Speaker 12: to question him as to where Kada is find this girl?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Is what is happening right?
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: Now is they're going to question him and what evidence
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: do they have besides right now the cell phone that
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: he has, and he does have a prior but that
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: prior was dropped, so he does not have a prior
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: charge right now. He is a prior dismissed without prejudice indictment,
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: meaning that the state can bring it back. And I
• 38:46
  Speaker 12: believe that they are now from what you've told me,
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: and that will help to put the heat on him
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: to make him talk about what he knows about Kada.
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: How can we find it hurt?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Darry Smith, I don't like anything that you just said.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I guess you what looked in your defense attorney Crystal Ball,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and you could divine why the charge was dropped last time.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: It was very clearly.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Dropped because the victim was afraid to go forward. It's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: not that the case didn't the state didn't have evidence.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: The victim was an FTA failure to appear. That's why
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the case did not go forward. All this requires is
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: a little drive over to her house and and ask
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: her what happened, get her on recording, and go and
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: dit it. That's what is required right now. So you
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: acted like the state didn't have the evidence. The evidence
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: didn't want to testify.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we have an.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Initial police report and we have the witness, if she's
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: still alive. Now let's talk about what exactly happened in
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: that case. Now, one thing you said I agree with.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: They're going to put the heat on him, and I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: mean red hot, so they can find Cada and they're
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: going to use this prior aggravated assault on another female victim.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: He probably looks a lot like Kada. In my experience,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: a particular type of victim is picked out and they're
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: going to use that case and they're going to find
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: out where kDa is. That's my hope. But let's hear
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: some more about those particulars. Listen, Derek Smith.
• 40:22
  Speaker 16: That case is then an individual that was known to
• 40:25
  Speaker 16: him a domestic aniere. And what I can say is
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: the allegations in that case are that he kidnapped a
• 40:31
  Speaker 16: woman in front of her house, threw in her car,
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: assaulted her, and then eventually let her out of the car.
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: There is some video evidence I believe that'll be plays
• 40:38
  Speaker 16: of preliminary hearing, But that was domestic in nature.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And do you have a time about when that happened?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It was this year.
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: In twenty twenty five, the case was with John and
• 40:47
  Speaker 16: May Dear Lord in Heaven.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: This is a fingerprint crime, Fitzgibbons, help me out. Did
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: you hear what Ellie just said in the other case
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and this was not that long ago, it was in.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It is a female victim domestic in nature. In other words,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: he knows the female. They're having some kind of a relationship. Listen,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: he kidnapped her in front of her house. Here Kate
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: is taken in front of her workplace. We believe throws
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: her in a car, ringing a bell the gold Toyota carry,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: assaulted her, which I assume to be a sex assault.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Can't yell and maybe maybe he beat.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Her and then eventually let her out of the car.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: It's a fingerprint crime, fits Gibbons.
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: It sounds almost exactly like what could be happening here,
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: except the added echelon that maybe he only knew Kada
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: through social media and that this subject has gotten more
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: aggressive as time has got on. So you know, certainly
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: we have to find that. You know, police are going
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: to find that us victim and hopefully be able to
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: move forward with those charges.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: So they stick that too.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Our renowned psychologist joining US doctor darryln Utter. She's a
• 42:10
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• 42:17
  Speaker 2: streaming and Prime Video. Doctor Jerry, if I may call
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you that, I know this is a fundamental question you
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: ask yourself every day.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with him? Did he not learn from
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the first time he strangled a woman.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Assaulted her, threw her in a car, assaulted her, kidnapped
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: her in a place where she thought she was secure,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and then throws her out. It's the same thing all
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: over again. I just pray to God Kita is still alive.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not about him learning anything, because he's clearly
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: a disturbed individual. Actually this part of my language. But
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: this turned him on even more. This kind of turned
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: up his barometer for violence and for testing the limits
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: and whatever other type of de v and t's going on.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: We don't know if she was sexually assaulted the other
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: female or beaten, you know, to your point, but whatever happens,
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: it kind of wet his appetite even more so. Hence
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: him then you know, perhaps going and going after somebody
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: like Kata, who made your point, be similar in a
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: lot of ways. To the other female that he had
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: assaulted earlier this year.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: She disappeared off social media, so it's concerning.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: You know, any young people today that can't live without
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: having a phone in her hand, So that's that's a concern.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: You left her car behind it. It's certainly something that's
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: not usual of somebody who's missing voluntarily. It's a troubling
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: missing person report. It's certainly troubling. So we don't know
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: if foul play was involved, but we certainly see some
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: signs that this person wasn't voluntarily missing. So because of that,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: we're doing everything we can to figure out who she
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: contacted and where she is now.
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: Cata, she's a really postal cards thing like SU's marcoson
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: than I am and let's say kay when not times
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: to heart and deliver.
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: I got even more worthy even hearing it was scary,
• 43:59
  Speaker 13: but when I talked to her and I didn't get
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: take bait.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We definitely confer name.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: CBS Philly multiple reports that Kata was being harassed just
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: before she went missing.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: Earlier this week, police said Kata Scott had been harassed
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: by someone. I asked police if they've been able to
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: identify who that person may be. A Deputy Commissioner said
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: he wouldn't comment on any possible interviews. The department has conducted.
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: Haras threat and so we're a little concerned because she
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: didn't tell us, of course, but other her friends and
• 44:32
  Speaker 13: you know, she didn't mention it to them. We didn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: give any names, any names or anything like that. So
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: we're trying to piece everything together to find out, Issachy,
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: who lease people.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Are, who was harassing Kata? Was it Keon King? We
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: wait and pray tonight as justice unfolds. That sound from
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: our friends at CBS Philly and now we remember an
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: American hero, Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley, Parish Sheriff's Louisiana, shot
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: in the line of duty, leaving behind a grieving wife
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: and two beautiful daughters. American hero Deputy Sheriff Charles Riley
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend