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- Mark Hayes (00:01.314) Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Another exciting edition of Two Men in Black and White and Honest Conversation. All right, folks, we know the epic corruption is in plain sight, but so is the epic incompetence. Just so many under- and unqualified people at the helm of so many important positions. my gosh, the death of excellence. continues, and the death of expertise, the Tom Nichols book, which we should all be reading. Brock Ganellis joins me now from the lovely confines of the upper Hudson River Valley with the latest here for us today. Brock, what has you pissed off today? Is it is it the death of expertise or you know just the sheer incompetence that lingers around Trump? Brock Ganeles (00:50.539) The it's the death of expertise, but it's the intentional placement of incompetent people in very important roles to the national security, our security. So Trump continues to find worse replacements for horrible initial appointments. So today's disaster du jour is Tulsi Gabbard, who we were all worried was a Russian. Mark Hayes (01:02.648) Yep. Yep. Mark Hayes (01:08.43) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (01:19.981) Plan, basically, as the head of DNI, national intelligence. She leaves and we're like, okay, Tulsi's out of there, that's a good thing. But then we look back and go, at least Tulsi was a credible person. Like she had at least done some things in the government. She at least knew government, understood international relations. Now we put this guy Pulty in in or Trump's gonna try to get this guy Pulty approved to be the head of national intelligence, he's like a home builder real estate guy. He has zero, zero experience anything regarding international relations or intelligence. And that's who's gonna get dropped into this very, very important position. It's just another step backwards for America. And as we are talking pre-show, what's his hook? Is he a white supremacist? Or does he have a financial angle on the side where the corruption is flowing his way? You know, why does he want the job? It's a good job to have though, very valuable information that comes your way. Mark Hayes (02:22.498) Yeah, both both things can be true. Yeah, both things can be true. He can be a white supremacist and also, you know, have some financial interests and gains. this is Bill Poulte of Poulty Holmes. As I'm looking here, he's the grandson of the founder of Pulti Holmes. So hey, you know, it's it's it's pretty s he's coming, but you know what, Brock? He's staying in the same area. That he's been working in the government and because he's coming from the Federal Housing Finance Agency. So you'd think he wasn't making a little money in the housing finance agency, right? Trying to make it easier or more expensive for people to buy his pulte homes, his name sa it makes no sense. And Brock, here's the best thing where's the media? Where's the media calling it out? You know, if this was a t if this guy was wearing a tan suit today. Maybe they would have called him out. But since he's not, yeah. Brock Ganeles (03:25.93) Well, this is also a case where we'll see if these senators who have now lost their seat, that are in the job for six more months, that are now supposedly pissed at Trump 'cause he fucked them. I'm talking about Tillis and I'm talking about Cornyn and Kennedy. So you got three of Are they gonna now actually act as representatives of the American people and stop just being MAGA lapdogs? Mark Hayes (03:37.986) Yeah. Yep. Community. Yep. Brock Ganeles (03:53.397) And will they vote down? Kennedy, who voted for RFK Jr. Will they now I don't even say grow a spine, do something in our interest, in the interest of their fellow citizens, and not Trump and MAGAWorld and vote against the Poulti's appointment and say, Hey Donald, go go back and find someone who actually knows something. Mark Hayes (03:53.602) Might as well. Mark Hayes (04:08.707) Right. Brock Ganeles (04:21.148) about gathering intelligence and working with whatever foreign allies still possibly would share information with us. Mark Hayes (04:31.842) Can you think of one? Brock Ganeles (04:33.47) I don't know, Is Israel Israel maybe. But we've seen Whitcloff and Jared fuck up the Iran negotiations and the Isra Russia Ukraine negotiations. Like how many times how many how many times do we have to watch the same movie of totally incompetent MAGA acolytes running around the world, in theory representing America, and in practice fumbling the ball at every turn? And it's why our stature in the world is down and why we have Mark Hayes (04:37.876) True. True that. Brock Ganeles (05:02.942) L let's face it, it's why gas is at four and a half dollars. Why? Because w we have people starting with Trump, we have incompetence in important jobs. Mark Hayes (05:06.73) Right. Right. Mark Hayes (05:12.704) It i it's it's ridiculous, Brock. and take a look and and and with the incompetence goes the criminal kind of leaning, right? The criminal bent, which leads to more corruption, right, in broad daylight. and and Trump likes having people around him who aren't gonna question his, you know, rather questionable purchases. Take a look at this one I found earlier today. you know, when Trump got off Air Force One in China, flanked by the CEOs of Nvidia and Boeing. Trump had just bought millions of dollars worth of Boeing stock before the trip. And then what do you know? China got a deal for two hundred Boeing airplanes. Brock Ganeles (06:03.114) Yeah. It was the one deal he announced. And also in NVIDIA has been allowed to sell some chips into China that they previously weren't. Elizabeth Warren Warren's going rip shit on that. I mean that whole fucking plane was a fucking corruption racket. Everyone who flew over to China had a self interest, including our president whose job it is to have our interest at heart. I mean, I'm so fucking fed up today. Mark Hayes (06:15.224) Going nuts. Yep. Mark Hayes (06:20.014) Right. Yep. Yep. Mark Hayes (06:27.214) Right. Brock Ganeles (06:29.42) I mean this poulty thing is is just enough. Another old white guy, right? Now the cabinet's looking like the old timers game at Yankee Stadium, right? Rolling around, guys just taking our money. We're funding this. Mark Hayes (06:30.126) What was that? Like the dirty dozen. Mark Hayes (06:35.351) Right. Mark Hayes (06:39.434) Right. Right. remember that. Yeah, I shot mighty. Mark Hayes (06:46.508) Right? Right? Brock, talk to your people. Where is White America? Where are they on this? This is their money. White America's paying extra for everything. And they're okay with the fuckery? That's what amazes me, Brock. Like, you know, I I I mean, we saw the the lunacy of the governor in in Colorado. And of course, he's been censured out there. I just found that out from one of my good friends who lives in Colorado. But, you know, come on, bro. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing, man? In the words of Abdul Carter. What are we doing? You know, why are we not raising holy hell and and making this guy's life miserable? He needs more pressure, right? The pressure from Iran and and Israel is not enough. And and And Brock, we've totally stopped talking about the Epstein files. We you haven't heard a thing about the Epstein files. Yeah, there was some testimony on Capitol Hill last week, but it did it didn't break a smidge in news coverage. Brock Ganeles (07:51.168) Gone on almost three months. Brock Ganeles (08:00.502) Bondy came in, she wasn't even under oath. They didn't even take a transcript. And it was behind behind closed doors. What'd they have? A couple cups of coffee and a few donuts and send her home? Come on. That was bullshit. That wasn't even like a a deposition. Mark Hayes (08:04.92) But nothing. Mark Hayes (08:10.466) Yeah. Right. Mark Hayes (08:15.224) Talking about we're gonna get to the bottom of that sweetheart deal. You know, imagine being a victim, Brock, and you can't get justice from these people. From the people who are charged with serving the American people. You can't get justice from them. You can't get them to help you. Wow. It's like being on a sinking ship, and you know, the people with the Coast Guard, you know, glides by with a bunch of life preservers and won't throw you one. Brock Ganeles (08:44.052) Yeah. Which is which is I think what our Coast Guard does when we bomb these ships in the Bahamas, right? We gotta buy 'cause we don't want survivors who can tell us that they're fishermen and not, you know, drug kingpins. The other the other bullshit desire is like Project Twenty Twenty Five, you know, executing their plan as as they laid it out, is now we're gonna move towards all federal grants are gonna require Trump administration approval. Mark Hayes (08:44.588) I mean it's a joke. Mark Hayes (08:50.412) Right. Mark Hayes (08:56.152) Can't have survivors. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (09:12.918) To make sure they aren't quote like anti American, which means if they don't kiss his ass enough or he doesn't get in a slice of it, or if either either it's either aggrandizing him or paying him, the federal grants aren't gonna go in that direction. So that's that's where we are now. You get two hundred and seventy one electoral votes, fifty point one percent of the vote to squeak by to become president, and now all the money. has to flow through you and please you and how it's used. Mark Hayes (09:44.086) Right. But get this, it gets even worse. Remember when we talked about him planning on not leaving? This clown posted a meme on Truth Social saying that he was entitled to a reward of a third term as president because the 2020 election was stolen. We're still living there. Brock Ganeles (10:07.052) Still living there, what's her name? The woman in Colorado who got her sentence, you know, commuted and sent out, went immediately from the jail to to go on Steve Bannon's fucking show, White Supremacy Show, to talk about how the 2020 election was stolen. So what's her name? Kim Gates, whatever her name was. So the Mark Hayes (10:15.022) Tina Peters. Mark Hayes (10:29.696) a moron sheep. Brock Ganeles (10:33.94) They they don't wanna let that go because that's the premise for Trump getting this quote third term, this unconstitutional third term. So there's a couple ways they're gonna play it, right? People come on our chat board, they're like, No, he's gonna keep fighting forever wars and he's gonna, you know, say that we can't have an election 'cause of the wars. I'm like, maybe, but a foreign war I don't know if the American people will kinda buy that. I think he's more likely to go with the he had his you know, his his Mark Hayes (10:42.595) Right. Mark Hayes (10:52.663) Right. Mark Hayes (10:58.518) Right. Brock Ganeles (11:03.368) his right to be president a second consecutive term. He didn't get a second consecutive term because he got it stolen from him. Therefore, he needs to have a second consecutive term because the American people need him to have eight years in a row and that's gonna be the justification for him to run again, which is why he's not endorsing Rubio or JD Vance and all that talk about his successor is a farce because Trump ain't thinking about a successor. Mark Hayes (11:05.656) was Mark Hayes (11:12.173) Good point. Mark Hayes (11:30.86) Yep. No, there is no successor. He's it. Brock Ganeles (11:32.938) He's gonna s he's thinking about staying in this job for life. Why would he not? He plays all he does is play golf and take money. Mark Hayes (11:42.56) Yep. And and you know, why would we want him? Why would anyone why would MAGA want him? Did you see they're burning MAGA hats now? It I mean, all the reports are saying that MAGA is leaving him. And there is no more MAGA, right? Because there's nowhere to go for MAGA. I mean, you could stay a white supremacist, but there's nowhere to go. Brock Ganeles (12:03.678) I don't b Yeah, there there's nowhere to go. Mark Hayes (12:10.111) And if you're calling yourself a conservative, you know, it's funny too, if you you know, if you put conservative next to your name right now, people are automatically writing ya off, right? We I mean, y I look at you like a loonatoon looney tune. Right. You might as well. Brock Ganeles (12:23.564) Put on a clan hood. Like d don't tell me there's don't tell me there's some philosophical difference between your conservatism or your originalism and fucking white supremacy. There's no daylight between those between those between those labels. So but but I still wanna see look, my timeline is full of MAGA people crying and whining from Nebraska to Kansas to Arkansas to Florida. Mark Hayes (12:33.054) Right. There's none Mark Hayes (12:40.694) A s a distinction without a difference. Mark Hayes (12:48.652) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (12:53.258) Right? The cost of living is drowning America. I won't believe it till I actually see voting behavior change. Cause when they walk into that booth and they see red, which they voted their entire lives, and they just associate their entire being with, you know, wanting to own the libs, I just I can't see the change in the I gotta see it to believe it. It ch the actual change in Mark Hayes (12:57.964) Yeah. Mark Hayes (13:05.036) Right. Mark Hayes (13:13.165) Yeah. Mark Hayes (13:21.016) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (13:22.548) behavior and and change in the vote. Cause I don't see any real change in behavior. Mark Hayes (13:23.542) And behavior. Yep. Yep. Well, you want to see some change in behavior? I got some for you. How about Jackson Dart has disabled the comment section of several, several posts on his Instagram account. He is getting cooked out here. Getting cooked. Because I mean, learn how to read the room, son. Learn how you're not in Utah anymore. You're not in Oxford anymore, son. This is the real world. You know, get step out. Of that, you know, clan bubble that you've been living in for the last twenty, you know, two, twenty-three years. I mean, just think about it. He's from Utah. He probably ran into like four black people out there. The most black people he's ever seen is on the old Miss football team. So In the hull. Exactly. Exactly. So Brock Ganeles (14:15.424) Yeah, in the huddle. In the huddle. That was it. That was probably the first that was the first meeting he probably was ever in that had more black people than white people was his huddle. Mark Hayes (14:26.164) Yep. Yep. He knows what the hell to do. You know, let me just call a play and get through this. And then you know the thing about it too. The funny thing is, you know, he's in the end zone doing his little dance, you know, wants to, you know, do all the stuff. You know, you love the culture, but you don't love the people. You know, we we we have a saying in black America, we wish white America loved us as much as they love the culture. He's a he's a perfect example. Brock Ganeles (14:53.524) Or for example of that. Now he was like, like he just ha he out of happenstance, he's done what a ton of people have done, but he did it like at the wrong time. And that this is why all those artists backed out of that concert, right? Because they would have gotten the same wrath. So the days of getting away with being pro-MAGA are over in mainstream culture. Media still will give people a pass. Mark Hayes (15:04.428) no doubt. Mark Hayes (15:08.875) Yes. Same treatment. Yep. Mark Hayes (15:20.782) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (15:23.338) The political realm, obviously, because MAGA controls everything, will certainly give people a pass. But the problem with the internet and being a public figure is you kinda have to appeal to everyone, or everyone is your audience. And right now the everyone is 68% disapproval of Trump, which means 68% approval of all this bullshit of Bill Poulty being the director of national intelligence. Mark Hayes (15:36.631) Yeah. Mark Hayes (15:49.635) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (15:52.082) Of federal grants having to get the approval of these project 25 2025 white supremacists before dollars can be doled out. So what does that mean? All arts programs, all music programs, all educational programs, all have to pass like the Trump loyalty and white supremacy litmus test? So like they're really just trying to change they're trying to change culture through dollars, which is why so important for people to push back. Mark Hayes (16:02.806) Right. Mark Hayes (16:13.439) Right. Yes. Mark Hayes (16:18.894) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (16:21.406) and make an example of the Jackson Darts and be like, look, we're not going for that. The problem is there's more aggression and vitriol and aggressiveness against Jackson Dart than there's been against fucking Trump and our government. Mark Hayes (16:27.384) Right. Mark Hayes (16:37.078) Right. Which which is hilarious. 'Cause Trump's the problem. Trump's the problem. But you know what? Everybody else is collateral damage. Everything he touches dies. You you should know that, Jackson. So there's consequences. Yep. Brock Ganeles (16:42.058) Yeah Yeah. Brock Ganeles (16:51.082) Yeah, should've known better. Should have known better, but he introduced the guy who's the, you know, the grand poo-bah of this white supremacy movement. He just did the introduction, right? He hasn't thrown the Latinos in concentration camps. He didn't take away the voting rights, but he supported he supported it. So I'm all for him getting eviscerated. But Trump's the problem. Mark Hayes (17:00.716) Right. Right. Right. Mark Hayes (17:10.562) Yeah. Brock, I'm gonna take Umbridge with you using the Grand Pooh's name in vain. Let's leave the Grand Pooh Bah out of this. He was a good guy and the water buffalo lodge is still standing as far as we know. Brock Ganeles (17:27.596) I have to say the Flintstones. Flint Flintstones was a pretty white community though, Mark. Mark Hayes (17:34.902) it very white. And and very racist too. I mean do you remember the the the volcano episode when they ran into the savages on the island? Savages with yeah. Brock Ganeles (17:44.8) I don't remember that. But he was white working class, right? He was da he was down in the quarry humping it. So I wonder if he had been a union guy, he's w he'd be one of these he would have had a MAGA hat on. Fred Flintstone would have had a MAGA hat on. Mark Hayes (17:51.116) Yes he was. Mark Hayes (17:56.172) no yeah. without question. Barney too, you know? I mean, you know, they had a real problem with the with weird the weirdlies when they moved in next door, you know. yeah, it it it was it was it was a it was a pretty whitewashed cartoon and you know the great kazoo you know what what was his deal? Brock Ganeles (18:17.696) Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah. Brock Ganeles (18:21.836) You know, Fred had a good work-life balance though, but that five o'clock whistle hit, man, he was out the door. He was not Mark Hayes (18:29.5) he was yeah, you called him five one Freddy. He was out the door. Yeah. Hidden it Brock Ganeles (18:34.7) Didn't didn't everyone in every business in every walk of life when they scooted out like right at the belt, you know, call themselves Fred Flintstone. I mean, we had a whole generation. Like when we'd w Wall Street, when we leave like the trading floor and get to the bar at like, you know, ten after four, when the market closes at four, we'd be joking that we were all like Fred Flints. Anyway, that's it's a MAGA world. You know, that was a it was a MAGA world. Mark Hayes (18:42.267) Yeah. Mark Hayes (18:50.83) Yeah. And chauvinistic as hell. Chauvinistic beyond belief. Remember the way they treated Wilma and Betty? I mean, let's not forget that. Gosh Almighty. Yes. Brock Ganeles (19:04.724) Yeah. Those are like original tradwives, right? Boy. All right. We I think we're off on a tangent on that one. Mark Hayes (19:12.96) We did, definitely. Let's get some quick hits in. What do you got? Brock Ganeles (19:16.952) So your good friend Kevin O'Leary, he of the Shark Tank bullshit and of the massive data center in Utah that is going to drain like more water than the rest of the population in total is getting some massive pushback. Mark Hayes (19:21.336) Mark Hayes (19:24.887) Sure. Yeah. Mark Hayes (19:41.047) Revolution. Brock Ganeles (19:41.578) by the people who are starting to question whether the way that whole thing went down and the information that was provided to the authorities to Greenlight, whether they were all given in essence, you know, truthful information. So I think he's gonna be in for a knife fight. So speaking of the pushbacks, speaking of the people getting their ire up and fighting a fight, you know that Mark Hayes (19:44.376) Think people. Mark Hayes (20:08.931) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (20:10.836) These data center ones are very local and very personal because they're fucking with people's water. And that like cuts to your livelihood, right? If there's something we all expect in America, right? It's then we turn on our faucet, we're gonna be able to have clean drinking water. And then we turn on our shower, we're gonna have like some semblance of water pressure to be able to take a good shower at the end of a long day in the hot sun. So Kevin O'Leary's he's in for a knife fight now. Mark Hayes (20:14.572) Yes. Yes. Mark Hayes (20:23.276) Yeah. Mark Hayes (20:27.117) Yeah. Mark Hayes (20:36.642) Yeah, like Brock Ganeles (20:39.381) And I'm I'm here for it. I hope he gets his ass kicked and I hope he loses a ton of money. Mark Hayes (20:42.134) Yeah. And you know, the other thing I hope he gets I I would love to see him not allowed to do business in this country. Why are these people coming here from other countries fucking up our environment when you got plenty of room in Canada where nobody lives to put your data center? Why are you down here? Elon Musk, you know, take a look at the African countries that have absolutely nothing there except wildlife. You know, take a smidgen. of some of those imp gorgeous lands, obviously. But why are you here? You could be doing all that bullshit over there. Do it in South Africa where you're from. Do it right outside Cape Town. Why are you coming to Houston and doing it? Brock Ganeles (21:28.928) Because he's ma 'cause he's MAGA and we grease right, he goes on CNN and chirps the MAGA line, right? The white supremacy line. So therefore he kisses Trump's ass. He's MAGA. Therefore the door's open for him. All the way down to the state level, 'cause all the states are fucking run pretty much by MAGA GOP. They've you know kicked Democrats ass at the state level. Mark Hayes (21:51.0) Hm. Right. Brock Ganeles (21:54.302) And even these like local boards that decide the green light what projects can be done and what can't. All MAGA, all old white guys. And he just plugged himself into the network by being MAGA. You know, who knows what he really even believes? He you know, people like him are just greed driven and they'll roll with whatever helps them make more money. And right now, being MAGA is the easiest way to get rich. Mark Hayes (22:20.162) Yep. Yep. I mean, you know, look what he did with those frickin' cheap as shit Tesla cars and those trucks that just come apart at the scenes. You know, he he didn't care about the shoddy workmanship. He wanted the carbon credits which got him, you know, super duper paid. And you know, I I just wish these people would st stop fucking coming here to tear up our countryside. Tear up your own shit. Brock Ganeles (22:47.702) We're still the land of opportunity. For s for s for some. Mark Hayes (22:49.694) for some. For the top one percent. Right. The O'Leary's and the and the Muskrats of the world. all right. What else what else you got for me, bud? I know you got some good stuff. I'm I'm working on some stuff right here for you as well. I was looking at the governor's race out in California, which is going to be huge because You know, I have always been of the belief, especially recently, that your boy Gavin was setting himself up for a run at the White House. can he do both in your opinion? Brock Ganeles (23:34.411) No, he's he's no, he he no, he's turned that. He's stepping aside. So he's d I I think he's a definitive run for president. What's been interesting in the California gubernatorial primary, it's a weird open primary where like I guess the top two whoever the top two vote getters are today Mark Hayes (23:37.292) is he is he turned out? Okay. Okay. Mark Hayes (23:44.886) Right. B me too. Brock Ganeles (23:57.151) will then run for the governorship head to head. And it could be and it's and it's regardless of party. It could have been two Republicans, two Democrats. So it's like just a weird way they do the primary. But Tom Steyr, who's the billionaire in the race, has thrown the most money at this thing. And looks like he we're gonna see, but it looks like he's gonna get beat. And I think it's an anti-billionaire sentiment 'cause it looks like Becerra Mark Hayes (23:59.926) Right. Right. So it could be two dims. Right. Mark Hayes (24:11.894) Right. Mark Hayes (24:15.224) Hans. Brock Ganeles (24:25.91) Who was in Biden's administration? I think he was a health and human services guy in Biden's administration, Latino guy. Looks like he's probably gonna come out on top. So it's gonna be interesting whether Steyer can be in that top two and throw another, you know, a couple hundred million at this race. I'm rooting against him because I'm just I just wanna sweep the billionaires out of politics. Mark Hayes (24:31.532) Sounds right. Yeah. Mark Hayes (24:42.497) Right. Mark Hayes (24:45.987) Yeah. Mark Hayes (24:49.846) Out of politics altogether. they've already got enough influence and sto and and you're in a place where life is already so expensive. I was talking to friends out there. I mean, man, you got fam you got two and three generations of families, you know, pooling their resources just for housing. I mean, it is insane out there what you can't get for a dollar. You know, nothing is reasonable in Cali, especially. Brock Ganeles (25:14.924) Mm-hmm. Mark Hayes (25:19.466) Around you know the major urban centers LA, Frisco, San Jose. You know, you get up there and like who could buy a home, Brock, coming out of college if you're in, you know, going to work at Google or going to work in the valley up there, the Silicon Valley. Who could buy who? You can't buy anything. You can barely rent anything. You're gonna need roommates. You've been out there, you know, you live out there. Brock Ganeles (25:43.851) Yeah, but I mean but the money comes quick to the the ultra you know, the ultra ultra talented, right? The AI guys now are signing million dollar contracts right out of the gate if you have those skills. So I guess they're gonna buy up the homes. Yeah. California's hu huge affordability issue. I would definitely trust Becerra versus a billionaire to address those issues. Someone who can actually relate to the issues. Mark Hayes (26:12.298) Exactly. Brock Ganeles (26:12.714) versus living in the billionaire bubble where y there's just no way you can empathize properly if you're not in any way living it. Mark Hayes (26:23.328) No, Steyr, there's no way Steyr can relate to the price of groceries. Matter of fact, when was the last time he actually shopped for himself for groceries? You know what I mean? I mean he's got people that do that. Right? I am the person who does that in my house. Right? There's the the people in your house do it. Yeah, not the people you've hired. so yeah, there's no way he could relate. So there's no way it's gonna be a priority for him. And he can't convince me otherwise. he's just lived too, too, too good a life. you know, that hasn't been impacted by I mean, his lifestyle is recession proof. Let's just call it what it is. You know, he's one of the one percent and you know, we don't need him for anything. Brock Ganeles (27:09.78) Yeah, it ties back to where we started with Poulte getting appointed the director of national intelligence, right? Just someone who has no experience in the job, was good at one thing, made a lot of money, but I mean, i we've seen it. It's failed. Putting the wealthiest people in positions that are supposedly working for the good of the entire society is a failed experiment. We experimented with Trump and his cronies. It's a failure. Let's move on from it. Yeah. Learning curve. How about a little learning curve and let's move on? Mark Hayes (27:37.867) Right. Mark Hayes (27:43.788) Let's move on. Right. Let's get some people that actually know how the government works, right? And how it works for the people, more importantly. All right. What else you got? We got time for one more. Brock Ganeles (27:57.847) So they yeah, one more. So they did a independent group did a simulation on all these AI models and they put up Anthropic against Chat GPT against Elon's Grok. And Anthropic and Chat GPT, as scared as we are of them, actually it was a like a political you know puzzle that they threw in front of them. Those two Mark Hayes (28:04.61) Mm-hmm. Mark Hayes (28:11.384) Gemini. Ugh. Brock Ganeles (28:26.13) AI engines came out and and created democracies and Elon's Grok w started a world war within four within four days. So you say that fucking guy comes here and just throw throws shit at the wall not caring about Mark Hayes (28:29.948) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (28:44.852) you know, we already knew it was a Nazi platform, right? And and it was spitting out porn and spitting out Nazism. Well apparently this in this case of of doing like, you know, like w the old movie war games where they created like this geopolitical puzzle for AI. Elon's c started a world war. So just just to pile on to your factoid about having these fucking, you know, soulless billionaires raiding our country. Mark Hayes (28:48.067) Right. Mark Hayes (28:58.391) Right. Mark Hayes (29:04.04) Awesome. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (29:13.406) and just trying to siphon off every dollar they can get and not giving a shit about what they leave behind for the rest of us. Anyway, that one gave me a chuckle today. Mark Hayes (29:18.839) Right. Right. Hey, one one pop culture chuckle. I know you're not a fan of the NFL, but I thought this was kind of funny. your boy, Trevor Lawrence, got dozens of texts because the Jacksonville Jaguars released a deep fake AI video of him getting his hair cut. And man did social media light up. Well, he had to go out and make a statement, say, hey, I'm not getting my hair cut. My hair's not cut. And everybody was like, ooh, thank goodness. You know, but this was the team that put out the video saying, Hey, you know, we wouldn't mind seeing you with your haircut. Basically is what they're saying by putting out a video like that. I mean, what the hell here's your f here's the star of your franchise and you're fucking with his hair. Like, where's your priorities? It it is just unbelievable, bro. Like the the the stuff that's going on is just i I don't get it. And and I don't get it. Brock Ganeles (30:27.434) Well, I got a a lot of reaction to that. NFL's a MAGA league, so it gets back to how Trump treats white people like white people treat black people. So is the NFL now gonna even gonna go after some of its white stars and start bullying them? And and who gets more criticism for their hair than black people, right? You can't have the braids, it can't be this, it's got you know, right? Constantly in schools being told how you can wear your hair. so Trevor Trevor Lawrence, I mean, why are you taking a shot at your Mark Hayes (30:44.428) Right. Mark Hayes (30:48.887) Right. Brock Ganeles (30:55.66) quarterback who's your leader, who by the way happens to be, I believe, really popular in the black community. Trevor Lawrence is kind of known for that, versus like a Jackson Dart who just, you know, blew up his entire franchise. He's actually a good leader of men. Maybe hasn't been the quite the quarterback yet that many would have thought or hoped, but he's certainly top half of the league at Mark Hayes (31:01.694) Абсолютно. Mark Hayes (31:08.194) Yeah. Mark Hayes (31:11.99) All men. Mark Hayes (31:19.83) Yeah, he's been to the playoffs twice. Brock Ganeles (31:20.008) I don't know why they would fuck with him. It just goes to show billionaires again. You have enough money, you run enough shit, you just feel like you should be able and can control everyone and everything around you down to the minute detail that they don't like that his hair is too long. I mean, come on, let the fucking guy be an individual and you know, support him so he can win some fucking games for you. Why you fucking with your own guy? Makes no sense. Mark Hayes (31:37.6) Right. It's ridiculous. Mark Hayes (31:46.578) Exactly. Stupidity at its finest. Alright, buddy, great place to shut it down. Let's rack it up and do it again tomorrow. Yes, sir. Revolution. And it will not be televised. Peace. Brock Ganeles (31:53.324) All right, Mark, always a pleasure.