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The Final Four Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.221.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome College Basketball fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for the Final Forward Report with Grant Shows and my cuddle and before we get to our reaction from Saturday night to Sunday finals and the Indianapolis guys, your initial thoughts on Michigan Yukon.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to be a heck of a champion.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think obviously you're in the final fourth, I thought those were two of the best.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought those were two of the best themes all season long.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can really, could have been on one seed.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think at one point in the season, you know, they ended up on the two line and get all the way to the national championship game now.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are, I think, two very deserving teams.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm UConn, I'm looking at this Michigan team like, wow, I mean, they absolutely took Arizona to the wood shed on Saturday, so if I'm UConn, I think Mike, that's one of the more concerning things going into Monday night.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the official, hey, Indiana, you didn't think that football title would fn be free, did you?
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: National championship game.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a, if you're you can, at what point do you, if you're Danny, and Danny Hurley, do you tell your team just stopping attention to what you're watching?
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that was just a bludgeoning of a team that I didn't think would lose a game.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this turn of it narrows on it.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they hadn't trail by more than 12 all season.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was 10 to one.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: five minutes and four minutes into the game and it really never felt like it got any closer than that.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just straight up, Mike, I'm shocked.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you can't be.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: John.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: My wish from someone into this game, guys, was that if Michigan played really, really well, they might have a chance in this game.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Without a doubt, and I think that Greg, I'm curious as a Purdue fan, are you kind of glad that they got feed in the Elite 8?
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: they just beat Michigan.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I know, but man, like, this is the different they literally is.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: According to rumors, Michigan is going to be a five and half point favorite in this game.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hammer the Michigan based on everything we've seen.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They beat Tennessee by 34 in the regional final.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're on their way to just absolutely blowing out.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: everybody's favorite coming into the tournament.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Early is, um, got some voodoo magic.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know after the first week into the tournament since he's gotten to you, con, but man, you're you're looking at a team that you're going to have to start figuring out where you want to put them and the whole time best teams in college basketball, um, conversation right now with Michigan.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they finish this thing off on Monday,
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got Kentucky, 2012, a lot of people like to talk to the 96 Kentucky team.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, the 76 in the NFT, all the UCLA teams.
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, where the 1934 Purdue Boiler makers?
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, UNLV-90, but I think we should just, like, after 76, just do it after that, because IU, that team, is the best non-ucilating
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right, but the UK 96 to me, yeah, they were good.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bench from that team won the 98 national title, so that's right.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were really good.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the Kentucky in 12, with Anthony Davis, Michael Kid Gowker, was going to say that's probably the best college basketball team
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: is twenty-to-all Kentucky.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: They lost two games that year.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could you get either of you name the two teams that beat them?
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana and Vanderbilt.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: At SEC attorney title game, and of course, the shot that Indiana has never forgotten about, because that was the last time Indiana fans were happy about basketball.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, December of 2012.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Going back to this,
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: this final four in this team and this Michigan and Dusty May and I think you're looking at at least since tooth we'll go 2010 to now.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had you come two years ago was pretty much an unbeatable force.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Villanova J. Wright had some teams, but I don't know that Michigan isn't the best team that we've seen in the last 15, 16 years of college basketball.
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's ever going to be a team that breaks the big 10 drought.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was gonna be it and I almost feel like we're talking as if it's already happened and who knows what Dan Hurley can come up with, but man, it's really, really tough to envision anybody beating this team that just doesn't seem to have weaknesses.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Top to bottom, they shoot well, they have, they have just absolute dudes on the interior.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lindenborg played five minutes in the first half of this game and they were up 16 and half time.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, we decided to record early recording with 302 left in the Michigan Arizona game.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's 88, 66.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Arizona's score twice as many points at the free throw line as Michigan has.
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's incredible.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan's gonna hang 100 on the best defense of demon college basketball.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: This goes back to things that they've been doing since November.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They played in that tournament in Vegas when they thought you were going to have some close games in the preseason.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: They beat Gonzaga by like 35.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: They beat Auburn by about 40.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had that big, big 10 matchup where they were going on the road to to Mackie, I think it was a 19 point game in half, and they've just been dismantling teams all season.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what do you think, Grant, percentage chance, what do you give you going on Monday?
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that you picked them before this, so it's not a success here.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did pick them and I still
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still kind of like my pig, just do the fact that, again, Yukon has the experience in the final four, the coaches have been there.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have guys on their team that have been there.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It does make me doubt my pig when I see what Michigan's done there is on it.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tonight, but I think it'll be close.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could tell me right now that Michigan's going to win the game and I wouldn't be at all shocked.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Yukon in a way has weathered this storm so many times.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they kind of did tonight against Illinois in the first game, where they had two droughts at towards the end of the, both halves, or at the end of the first half, they had a job with him.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one out of 12, or they only made one out of 12.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of went cold there towards the end and Illinois kind of made it interesting down the stretch.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then Mullen said a big three to put him up seven.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So,
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've played in clutch moments, Michigan really hasn't had to do that at all.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think for Michigan, going back to the big-to-term, it against Purdue, that is one of the things.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even Yukon, that does apply to Yukon, teams that lost in their comforts' term at whether it was in the championship or if it was in the semi-finals or what.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the teams you, I feel like you see go on and win the national championship more
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: had their bell-run a little bit in their conference term and then come out strong when the big dance and are able to make a run and win the whole thing.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Michigan and Yukon are two of those teams that lost in their tournament championship game.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And since then have really come out and played their best basketball in the season.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be real interested to see interesting to see.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Yukon does have a chance, but
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, if Michigan plays the way they did against Arizona, then it's going to be, it's going to be a long off season thinking about that one.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been getting out of here.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've checked out my new podcast, Greg and his friends talk sports every weekday after doing on the simple Indian Sports Report.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever since I'm going to be in a sports fan and talking about, that's what my friend and I are talking about on Greg and his friends talk sports.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, 71, 62 Connecticut.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: What I mentioned, Brayland Mullins from Greenfield, 15 points really good first half.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then Hummer Cows from Tipton 5.0.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: And all of them.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Third Tipton player, ever, be in the final four.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got Chris Smith, he was a Tipton.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: To play it on the 87IE team.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's been some good players.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'll say this about Ben Hummer Cows.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I talked to this was last year, I talked to his high school coach at TIPS and of course not there anymore.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you guys know him, Lula Thave, and we were talking about Hummer Cousin.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He goes, you know, he's one of those that went on and played division one college basketball.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you would have told me that five years ago, I would have laughed in your face, not believe, do.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's what a journey for the good, but it's one of those things like you start off at Huntington, a little NAA school and then work your way up and get the Evansville and then you get the champagne and I want to wait and get an opportunity and then you have lead your team to the biggest stage is pretty remarkable.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just kind of became that ultimate glue guy for Illinois.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the guy that they had.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he wasn't around, who knows how the season goes, he was never spectacular.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was never going to be their leading score.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was never going to be their best player, but he always kind of seemed like he was
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: the guy that, when everything needed, even today, he had a absolutely huge three late in the game that felt like it could have really turned the game towards the end and unfortunately for Illinois, there was three's were few and far between if he were in a line I got, just such a deep story to see a guy go in a IA to low, low, level D1 at Evansville to playing in the final four in his home state for his last game.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty cool thing to watch.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: There is a minute left.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is Michigan 90 Arizona 73.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there are going to definitely complete this victory.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we touched on a little bit, but unbelievable.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been 25 years.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was at the fourth way new Sentinel the last time a big 10 champion and that was of course Michigan State time is it was national champion and it's amazing.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's taken this long
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like there hasn't been opportunities.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan's played in three title games in that stretch with Constance played in a title game, Illinois played in a title game, Purdue played in a title game, Indiana played in a title game, oddly enough.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, during this stretch, I was still in college.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm when this...
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: drought began it's absurd as good as this conference really has been I mean they've had opportunities they just there was always one team better it felt like for Michigan it was Villanova that one year that really weird year Michigan made all the way to the championship game in 2013 and then they just didn't play it according to the NCAA record books I don't know what that was all
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We forgot to go high as state.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, high as states.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how many big things do you just count?
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You see a leg, a bit in there, you know, big tin, stalwart, you see a leg.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you can, you can realistically be in a world where depending on how things go tomorrow and Monday, the big tin can hold the football, women's basketball and men's basketball and national title at the same time.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Insane.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or just one of them, or just one that they want, they want three in a row and football.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, I will not be rooting for it because it's not the SEC.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why would I root for the teams I hate, you know?
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why it will not be cheering for you, Con.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why, though?
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can give you so many reasons, but I'll start with Jim Calhoun.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that is understandable.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who is the coach of the second national championship Kevin Hawley and now Danny Hurley Pretty easy to dislike you come You can't spend such a good program that even Kevin Freak and Ollie could win an national championship You come and Butler was the worst title game in the history of title games No question Night and close
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't even think of one that was even the blowout to have been better than that.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I close second maybe Marilyn and Anna in O2.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was awful.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: My wife and I had a three at the buzzer to get the 52 in that game, I think.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So were you just shot after that game, Mike?
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was too busy with my job to get upset about it, but it was just not a fun one to
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... i had to work so i was watching it from uh... from my office that was when i was still uh... a very very new reporter at the news interview in geverson bill nothing like watching your team lose the national championship game and then have to fill out high school track results but like two in the morning
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: great you were down at fan fest on Saturday tell us about it.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was also there Friday but Saturday was I had a pretty I had a pretty unique encounter.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I parked at the Gainbridge garage and ended up walking over to a Lucas oil.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can cut through next to Gainbridge.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: but they had it blocked off for some reason.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I had to walk down the street and walk over a couple blocks.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as I start walking over there, it just starts pouring rain.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to get out of the rain and I'm looking down and I can kind of see in my periphery old that there's like an awning outside of a restaurant.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there was like nobody at the restaurant and so I kind of move over and I get under this awning and as I'm approaching this awning, I realized, oh my gosh, there's this other guy standing under the awning.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I know that guy and it was NATO's at Alabama and he was standing under the awning.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is right outside the Pacer's practice facility.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to know when the Pacer's practice ended, because he was trying to grab a couple of those guys to come and play for him next year, when they came out of practice.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: No joke, like literally, this was across the street from like the the Ascension St. Vincent thing where the Pacer's practice, which is connected to game, which is right outside of there.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So no wonder he was lurking over there.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I go coach, you stay in dry.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys, yeah, trying to get them just late not on the Uber right now.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was, that was the only interaction I had to be.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the kind of stopped, and then I went on my way.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I got over the convention center, and oddly enough, I saw Bruce Pearl over there, which I don't know if you need this, but he is the carb loaded, Paul Feinbaum, according to some team.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Did you ask him about Chad Gilbert and his playing days?
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did not.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't talk to him.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Gilbert on Thursday at the NIT, gaming with fist bump.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, I'm surprised that Nate Oates didn't say, I'm sorry, you grant from the Central Union Sports Report.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you wanted to draw attention.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We just didn't have time to take fix and sign on a grass.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: We just had to kind of get on our way.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: If there's anything I know about Nate Oates, he's notoriously not a fan of drawing attention to himself.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Braille and Mullins, a big first half on the big stage 12 points in the first half.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: A terrorist read, also a big first half.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Neither one of those guys really big in the second half, but they each came up with a big moment.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Read hits a bucket to when Illinois kept to lead to four, kind of write the ship.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mullins in the last minute hits a three that makes it four point game a seven point game.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of a...
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: The proverbial dagger, as Bill Rafferty would say, both those guys are an interesting subplot.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Going into the final, of course we all know by now that...
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Woodson thought his name was Braxton Mollonix and played at Greenwood instead of Greenfield and didn't recruit him, Matt Painter couldn't land him, but nobody seems to ever talk about that.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be trying to play and win a national title in his home state when he couldn't even win a state title in Bask in high school in his own state.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then Terus Reed, former Michigan player, who on Howard.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: gets to try to wrap his career up against the school where he started.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So talk about those who you guys going in and that match up.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, real fast and also Alex Cariband can be the first non-UCLA player ever to win three national championships.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're pretty impressive.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Braille and Mollins hit the biggest two shots of the last two games.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: No question.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, figure out my fan fest experience.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had a pretty unique encounter at the fan fest on Friday when we went down there.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're walking to the convention center.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I see a guy who looks really, really familiar.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I think that's Travis Steele.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go stop him.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to Travis Steele.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I go and stop him.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I go, you look so familiar.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He starts laughing.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: He goes, no, I'm not.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, well, I said, well, forgive me because you look like you might go, but you coach, where do you coach?
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys won the coach at Chester 10.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was pretty embarrassing.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So about an hour later, I'm walking on the street in Indy.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I actually ran into the actual Travis Steel on the street.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I got a chance to redeem myself from the
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So pretty, pretty unique encounter for me at the final four.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And how is his aura?
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not bad.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Steve were friendly.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had his wife with him.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll submit Ryan Odom, who's the coach of Virginia.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was really nice.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I asked where we were from and everything.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also saw Charles Barkley on Thursday at the NIT.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I walked right by him and he went over and dapped up
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, God only knows that they were talking about.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Skas.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go, by the way, final score was 91 to 73.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: 91, 73.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: We delayed recordings so we could get the final score on there.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And here we are, 30 minutes into it.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there's the score, 91, 73.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks again.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk soon.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: IE report on Tuesday.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sweet.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: The central Indian sports report is a product of ITG media.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I love Susan.