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- 0:04Amanda Wilde (Host): Meaningful Medicine is a Novant Health podcast bringing you
- 0:07access to leading doctors who answer questions they wish you would ask.
- 0:12From routine care to rare conditions, our physicians offer tips to navigate medical
- 0:17decisions and build a healthier future.
- 0:20I'm Amanda Wilde with hematologist and oncologist, Dr.
- 0:24Sandrine Crane.
- 0:25We're talking about breast cancer, from how to think about risk
- 0:28and prevention to the latest options in care and survivorship.
- 0:33Dr.
- 0:33Crane, thank you so much for being here today.
- 0:36Sandrine Crane, MD: Thank you for having me.
- 0:38Host: I want to start out with what are some of the biggest myths
- 0:42or misconceptions you encounter about what causes breast cancer,
- 0:46and what does the science show?
- 0:48Sandrine Crane, MD: One of the most common myths that I encounter is whether or
- 0:52not sugar contributes to breast cancer.
- 0:56And sometimes it is even phrased as feeding cancer.
- 0:59Anything that we consume, whether carbohydrate, proteins, and even lipids,
- 1:05everything gets broken down to the same level of energy that the cells can use.
- 1:09We use them for our own survival.
- 1:12Cancer cells can also use the same type of energy, but there have not been any
- 1:16studies that shows that sugar can increase risk of having breast cancer or even
- 1:21worsen the outcome of breast cancer.
- 1:23It is usually recommended to eat a healthy and balanced diet and limit
- 1:29processed food as well as added sugars.
- 1:32Another myth that I have encountered is whether or not deodorant or
- 1:36even antiperspirant can increase the risk of breast cancer.
- 1:40And there have not been any studies that have shown that this is a
- 1:44risk factor for breast cancer.
- 1:46And sometimes usually people will wonder why they are asked to hold or not use
- 1:50deodorant on the day of their mammogram.
- 1:52And this is to prevent particles from the deodorant being seen on a mammogram and
- 1:58making it harder to pick up abnormalities.
- 2:02Host: So, that's where that one got started.
- 2:05I've also heard that genetics play such a large role.
- 2:10Sometimes people feel like, "If I don't have the genetic factors, I don't really
- 2:16have to worry about breast cancer."
- 2:19Sandrine Crane, MD: That is also another myth.
- 2:20Only about 5% to 10% of patients who have breast cancer have a genetic
- 2:25predisposition to the breast cancer.
- 2:27And only about 15% who have breast cancer and have a family member
- 2:31who've had breast cancer in the past.
- 2:34So, the majority of patients who have breast cancer have no genetic
- 2:37predisposition and do not have a family history of breast cancer.
- 2:41So, it is always important to undergo screening on time and as recommended.
- 2:47Host: Well, let's get a little deeper into the risk factors.
- 2:51And then, we'll talk too about how breast cancer care has evolved in recent
- 2:57years and what the options are there.
- 2:59But back to genetics and family history, they do influence breast cancer risk.
- 3:05When should someone consider genetic testing?
- 3:09Sandrine Crane, MD: It's always a nuanced conversation, but current
- 3:13guidelines do recommend for anybody who is diagnosed with breast cancer before
- 3:18the age of 50 to undergo genetic testing.
- 3:21For family history reasons, if someone has a family member who's had breast
- 3:26cancer before the age of 50, or a family member who's had pancreatic
- 3:30cancer, or who has had ovarian cancer, or even advanced prostate
- 3:34cancer, they are definitely people who should consider genetic testing.
- 3:40There are new treatment options that are available to patients who
- 3:44have specific genetic mutations.
- 3:47So if a treatment consideration are being taken into account, genetic testing
- 3:53is offered on an individualized basis.
- 3:57Host: You mentioned lifestyle also earlier, like exercise and diet.
- 4:03How meaningful are diet, exercise, and weight management when we talk about
- 4:09affecting breast cancer risk or outcome?
- 4:13Sandrine Crane, MD: So, we do have studies that show that maintaining an active
- 4:18lifestyle is important to decrease the risk of breast cancer occurrence while
- 4:22maintaining a normal body mass index.
- 4:25And we also know that the same benefit also applies after someone
- 4:29has been diagnosed with breast cancer.
- 4:32So, exercise has been shown to decrease the risk of breast cancer-related
- 4:36mortality, even all-comers mortality.
- 4:39The current recommendation is for moderate exercise of about 150 minutes per week.
- 4:46Weight-bearing exercise is about two days a week.
- 4:49Those are definitely lifestyle changes that can make a difference.
- 4:53Host: What other lifestyle factors like smoking and alcohol
- 4:57use should patients consider?
- 5:00Sandrine Crane, MD: So, we do know that breast cancer has a strong association
- 5:04with alcohol misuse in terms of the diagnosis of breast cancer, even outcome
- 5:08after a diagnosis of breast cancer.
- 5:11So, it is recommended to not consume any alcohol.
- 5:15But
- 5:15if it is going to be consumed,
- 5:17Sandrine Crane, MD: to limit to one drink per day.
- 5:19Smoking also has an association with the breast cancer diagnosis and even the
- 5:24outcome after breast cancer diagnosis.
- 5:27We know that sometimes the carcinogens that are produced from smoking can
- 5:33even affect how certain medications and chemotherapy agents function or help
- 5:38patients and sometimes can actually lead to resistance to medication.
- 5:42So, we are always working with patients if they are smoking or
- 5:47drinking to try and address those lifestyle choices and decrease the
- 5:53risk of breast cancer recurrence.
- 5:56Host: Another risk that is often brought up is hormone-related.
- 5:59I think hormone-related questions are common.
- 6:02Do birth control pills and menopausal hormone therapy
- 6:06factor into breast cancer risk?
- 6:09Sandrine Crane, MD: Yes, they do.
- 6:10So for premenopausal women, who use estrogen-based medication, that
- 6:15can increase the risk of breast cancer and specifically estrogen
- 6:19receptor-positive breast cancer.
- 6:22The same also applies for the use of estrogen and combined progesterone
- 6:28hormonal replacement after menopause.
- 6:31In post-menopausal setting, those hormones are recommended to address
- 6:36the symptoms related to menopause.
- 6:39Sometimes it might be hot flashes.
- 6:41It might be mood changes and even maintaining bone density.
- 6:45If those medication are to be considered, we usually recommend for them to be used
- 6:50in the least amount possible and for the least amount of time that's possible.
- 6:56Host: How should people think about risk versus responsibility?
- 7:00I mean, how do you balance giving patients actionable advice
- 7:04without making them feel blamed?
- 7:07Sandrine Crane, MD: It's a balance.
- 7:09Very often, after diagnosis of breast cancer, you might sometimes encounter
- 7:14a patient who's blaming themselves, because everybody always wonders,
- 7:18"What did I do or what did I not do that has led to this diagnosis?"
- 7:23Even though we know that smoking, alcohol misuse, and sometimes use of
- 7:28estrogen-based medication can increase the risk of breast cancer, I think it's
- 7:32best to focus on what can be done in the future to decrease the risk of breast
- 7:37cancer recurring or even improving the outcome of breast cancer treatment.
- 7:43And we know that there are things that we can incorporate, including assistance with
- 7:46smoking cessation, counseling about any lifestyle modifications that can be taken.
- 7:53Host: So when someone is diagnosed, you will meet them where they
- 7:56are to work on those things.
- 8:00You just mentioned one of the common misconceptions.
- 8:05It might be that "I caused this or the products I used weren't healthy for me."
- 8:13Are there any other common misconceptions you want to bring up about prognosis
- 8:18or treatment once someone is diagnosed?
- 8:21Sandrine Crane, MD: So, some of the misconceptions, sometimes they have
- 8:25to do with prognosis in general.
- 8:27Breast cancer is still a very common type of cancer in women.
- 8:31Probably one out of eight women will have breast cancer in their lifetime.
- 8:36People might think that it is a death sentence of being
- 8:39diagnosed with breast cancer.
- 8:41There are new medication and therapies that have changed the overall outcome
- 8:47of patients who have breast cancer.
- 8:49I reassure patients that we will walk through this journey together, and we
- 8:53have different ways that we can support them, make sure they know that they're not
- 8:57going to go through this by themselves.
- 9:00Host: And another reassuring point is that breast cancer care is
- 9:03continually evolving and getting more and more specialized in recent years.
- 9:05What innovations give you the
- 9:13most hope for patients now and in the future?
- 9:16Sandrine Crane, MD: Research have made significant leaps in terms of
- 9:20improving breast cancer outcomes.
- 9:22There are new medication that are targeted.
- 9:26Some of them have been out for the last maybe 10 years.
- 9:29So, the CDK4/6 inhibitor that have changed the outcome of estrogen-positive breast
- 9:34cancer, both in the metastatic setting, even in early stage of breast cancer.
- 9:39We also have newer drugs that are antibody-drug conjugate that are very
- 9:44well-tolerated and also target and deliver the chemotherapy to the cells.
- 9:49The overall survival of patients, who have early stage, even advanced breast
- 9:54cancer, have improved significantly.
- 9:57And that gives me great hope.
- 10:03Host: So, a lot of hope now and looking into the future.
- 10:04Sandrine Crane, MD: Yes.
- 10:07Host: Well, thank you for this conversation, Dr.
- 10:08Crane.
- 10:09Really appreciate your time and the insights you've shared and all
- 10:12the work you do at Novant Health.
- 10:15Sandrine Crane, MD: Thank you.
- 10:16Host: Dr.
- 10:16Sandrine Crane is a hematologist and oncologist at Novant Health.
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