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Mark Belling Podcast #87: Not so fast! The state legislature's push to give away online sports gambling for nothing to the tribes hits a much-needed speed bump. Also, how do you trust the Democrats who've made think so expensive to bring us affordability? And the public defenders throw a hissy fit over the crackdown on reckless driving · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Only moments ago, a big development occurred on the story
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  Speaker 2: that I want to talk about the sponsor and that
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  Speaker 2: the Republican chief sponsor in the State Assembly of a
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  Speaker 2: bill to legalize online sports betting in Wisconsin is announcing
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  Speaker 2: that there will not be a vote on the bill today.
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  Speaker 2: After all, the bill was scheduled to be voted on
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  Speaker 2: in the State Assembly this afternoon, and again I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Now the State Senate has adjourned until next year,
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  Speaker 2: so it would not become law until the Senate acts,
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  Speaker 2: and that wasn't going to happen in order for you know,
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  Speaker 2: HiT's get into basic civics. Order for a bill to
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  Speaker 2: become a law has to pass the state Assembly, has
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  Speaker 2: to pass the state Senate, and has to be signed
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  Speaker 2: intact by the governor. The first step here is passage
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  Speaker 2: in the state Assembly. It was expected to pass the
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  Speaker 2: state Assembly today. In fact, the bill passed through an
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  Speaker 2: Assembly committee unanimously. All the Republicans, that all the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: at a committee voted for it. So why is it
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden being delayed. Well, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: about it, and I'm going to tell you about the issue.
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  Speaker 2: And as they said, I think this is an excellent
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  Speaker 2: case study in how insider ism and access and how
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  Speaker 2: they're tied into campaign contributions really work. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: I want to make it clear that I am not
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  Speaker 2: opposed to online sports gambling. We now have legalized sports
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  Speaker 2: gambling in Wisconsin for the first time. You have to
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  Speaker 2: go to one of the Native American tribes that offers it,
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  Speaker 2: and you have to do it in person on the premise.
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  Speaker 2: In most other American states, you just do it at
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  Speaker 2: home on an app. Every state, though, has different laws.
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  Speaker 2: Sports gambling is neither illegal nor illegal in the United States.
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  Speaker 2: It's not prohibited in the United States, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean a state has to allow it, and thirty nine
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  Speaker 2: states have legalized it in one form or another. Many
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  Speaker 2: states have open competition, and among the big players are DraftKings,
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  Speaker 2: Fan Duel, numerous others in which people have an app
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  Speaker 2: on their phone or on their laptop or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 2: and they can bet as much as they want. They
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  Speaker 2: deposit money and they bet, and it's tracked, and it's
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  Speaker 2: tax and there's records kept in the whole thing. Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: has never legalized sports gambling. It dates back to the
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  Speaker 2: terrible compacts that Jim Doyle cut with the Indian Tribe
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  Speaker 2: LIBS two decades ago. Those compacts said that nobody else
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  Speaker 2: can offer any legal gambling of any sort. The only
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  Speaker 2: legal gambling could beat the state lottery and whatever the
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  Speaker 2: casinos want to do. The casinos, for the longest time
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  Speaker 2: did not move forward on sports betting in Wisconsin because
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  Speaker 2: it seemingly was outlawed by federal law, except in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of states that changed. Remember the compacts under Doyle,
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  Speaker 2: the only entity that can offer legal gambling is the tribes.
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  Speaker 2: It was a terrible selling out of Wisconsin, terrible, and
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  Speaker 2: it was done in exchange for not much money. The
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  Speaker 2: tribes do not pay many forms of taxation in Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 2: so they're already getting off easily. Secondly, because they're sovereign nations,
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  Speaker 2: they're able to do things that are are unable to do.
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  Speaker 2: But the FEDS have said that in order to have
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  Speaker 2: the gambling, you do have to cut a deal, make
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  Speaker 2: a contract in other words, with the state in which
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  Speaker 2: you're in and the deal, the Doyle Cut, which did
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  Speaker 2: not require legislative approval, was a total giveaway to the tribes,
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  Speaker 2: and we've seen the result of that for the last
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  Speaker 2: twenty years. Okay, fast forward, and now the tribes want
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  Speaker 2: to do sports gambling, which they have a right to
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  Speaker 2: do under the compact. But there's nothing in these compacts
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  Speaker 2: that say that you can bet with them on an app.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, if you want to bet at Pottawatabe, you have,
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  Speaker 2: i mean, any bettings you know, slot machines, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: You have to go to Pottawatabe or Onneia and Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay are the hotchunks of the state. You have to
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  Speaker 2: go there, and the same is true with regard to
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  Speaker 2: sports betting. That's what Doyle's Compact said. Any gambling that
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  Speaker 2: you do, you have to do in the actual casino
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  Speaker 2: on the tribal lad Well. Sports betting has exploded in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, particularly people who like to bet one
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  Speaker 2: minute before a game starts, or a live bets you know,
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  Speaker 2: during a game, et cetera. Well, it's obviously Potawatamy and
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  Speaker 2: Oneida and Ho Chunk are getting by the way. From
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  Speaker 2: what I can tell, the money being bet on premise
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  Speaker 2: in sports betting is off the charts there. But imagine
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  Speaker 2: what it would be if everybody simply could do it
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  Speaker 2: on an app on their phone, as you can do
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  Speaker 2: in most other states. I would say my guess is
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  Speaker 2: five hundred times more betting. That's my estimate. For one thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ask to go to. You
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  Speaker 2: want to just go down to Potawatamee. That parking garage
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  Speaker 2: gets more I swear every time I'm in it, it gets
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  Speaker 2: more complicated. Some people say it's so simple, I'm apparently
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  Speaker 2: a moron. I mean, I can get in and out
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  Speaker 2: of it, but it's just it just always see it's
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  Speaker 2: the you know the term intuitive, it's counterintuitive. Like the
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  Speaker 2: garage that's to me intuitive is the Mitchell Airport parking garage.
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  Speaker 2: The way you turn just seems to be the way
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  Speaker 2: that you the way that if they didn't have sime
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  Speaker 2: and say they do to get out, I think that
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  Speaker 2: you find your way out. It just seems like the
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  Speaker 2: way that you get out makes sense. When I'm in
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  Speaker 2: the potawaa garage, it never seems as though the way
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  Speaker 2: that you're supposed to go is the way that you
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  Speaker 2: actually do go. I agree what you clearly, clearly, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the point. Many people who like to bet on
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  Speaker 2: sports bet every day or the bet nine different times
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  Speaker 2: a day, and so what well, they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: keep going down there to do that. So understandably, Potawatamie,
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  Speaker 2: the Oneidas, and ho Chunk who have the big ones
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  Speaker 2: and really I think the only ones that do sports betting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a couple of there's several
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  Speaker 2: smaller travel casinos around the state. I honestly don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but the three giant operations in Wisconsin are Potawatami and
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee who Chunk. They have several, but the big one
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  Speaker 2: is near the Dells in Baraboo and then Oneida in
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  Speaker 2: near Green Bay. They want to be able to have
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  Speaker 2: betting via the app A bipartisan group of members of
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  Speaker 2: the state legislature have proposed to allow them to do this.
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  Speaker 2: When I say bipartisans in the bill has an equal
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  Speaker 2: number of Republican and Democrat sponsors in both the Assembly
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  Speaker 2: and the Senate. The legislation, as proposed, grants these tribes
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  Speaker 2: a total monopoly. No outside company could come into Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: and offer sports betting. The big one in the United
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  Speaker 2: States right now is Draft Kings. There's a Zilium a
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  Speaker 2: DraftKings I believe, who handles the most sports bets in
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  Speaker 2: the United States. They would not be allowed to come
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  Speaker 2: into Wisconsin. They currently are in the state with they
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  Speaker 2: have fantasy and so on, but they don't have legal
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  Speaker 2: sports gambling. Nobody else would be able to come in
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  Speaker 2: and do it. The only entities that would be able
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  Speaker 2: to offer the online sports betting would be the tribes.
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  Speaker 2: So in exchange for this, what are the tribes giving
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin nothing? The deal is a total giveaway to the tribes.
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  Speaker 2: This is the exact opposite of the art of the deal.
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  Speaker 2: This is the art of the whore. The Pottawatabes want something,
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  Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. The o Knight has won something,
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  Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. The ho Chunk won something,
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  Speaker 2: We'll give it to them. Nothing in return for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of us. Now, why would members of both parties
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  Speaker 2: want to do this. Here's why. The Democrats have been
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  Speaker 2: in bed with the tribes for decades in Wisconsin. That's
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  Speaker 2: why Doyle did the compacts twenty years ago, and for
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  Speaker 2: the remainder of Doyle's term, the Potta Wannabes dumped to
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  Speaker 2: fortune in the Democratic campaigns in Wisconsin. All Right, Walker
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  Speaker 2: came in, got elected Walker and the Republicans figured, if
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  Speaker 2: you can't beat them, join them. And under the Walker
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  Speaker 2: administration there became a cooperative relationship with the tribes, and
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  Speaker 2: the tribes started giving money to Republicans and Democrats. You'll
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  Speaker 2: recall one of the watershed decisions of Scott Walker's governorship,
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  Speaker 2: the worst one. Another tribe wanted to come in and
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  Speaker 2: build a big casino in Wisconsin. The Menominees wanted to
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  Speaker 2: build a casino near Kenosha, partnering with the hard Rock operation.
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  Speaker 2: The hard Rock is owned by the Seminole Tribe of Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Hard Rock is a tribal company, but it's not a
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  Speaker 2: tribe from Wisconsin. But it's a huge national gambling operation
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  Speaker 2: started with the hard Rock restaurants, but the hard Rock
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  Speaker 2: Casinos is a separate ending and it's owned by the Seminoles.
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  Speaker 2: The tribe, particularly the Potawatabes here in Milwaukee, opposed this. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know why they opposed it. They're the only casino
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  Speaker 2: for miles and miles and miles in southeast Wi. Kind
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  Speaker 2: they didn't want one in Kudosha. It's Scott Walker rolled
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  Speaker 2: over and opposed it. So the tribes they're now giving
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  Speaker 2: money to Republicans and Democrats. Fast forward to now the
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  Speaker 2: tribes give money to Republicans and Democrats. Let's imagine Republicans
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  Speaker 2: decide that they don't want to do this giveaway on
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  Speaker 2: online sports betting. Who are the tribes going to give
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  Speaker 2: all their money to next year in the election cycle,
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  Speaker 2: only the Democrats. The Republicans don't want to have the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats get all the money, so both sides agree to
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  Speaker 2: give the tribes exactly what they want until today where
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  Speaker 2: this thing got knocked off track. Fortunately, now the other
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  Speaker 2: potential gambling companies like DraftKings and so on. If they
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  Speaker 2: go and roll over and they do this deal, there's
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  Speaker 2: no way in which anybody else can ever come in.
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  Speaker 2: So Draft Kids just goes away and they have no
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  Speaker 2: interest in Wisconsin, so there's no campaign money on the
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  Speaker 2: other side. There are a number of industries and a
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  Speaker 2: number of issues in which this plays out. I've talked,
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  Speaker 2: for example, about the roadbuilders and their cloud in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: There's no real lobbying group that opposes what the road
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  Speaker 2: builders want. There's just the road buildings, and they dump
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  Speaker 2: their money. On many issues, there's people on this side
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  Speaker 2: who want something and people on that side, and usually
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  Speaker 2: they both have big money, special interest money and so
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  Speaker 2: on that they can lobby on both sides. Good one
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  Speaker 2: has the trial lawyers and the insurance companies. They're generally
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  Speaker 2: on opposite sides. You support the insurance companies, you get
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  Speaker 2: big money from support the trial layers, you get pig
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  Speaker 2: money from them. But in this issue, all the money
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  Speaker 2: is on the side of the tribes. And members of
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  Speaker 2: the legislature, who therefore do what the tribes want, are
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  Speaker 2: simply and I'm using the term horry, just people don't
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  Speaker 2: like the fact that I use this term, it's correct.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to war does not require the act
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  Speaker 2: of sex. Maybe it does, but for my purposes, it doesn't,
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  Speaker 2: because it means the selling yourself out to somebody else
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  Speaker 2: for money. If they just did sec, if they went
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  Speaker 2: out and they had sex with the tribes, that it'd
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  Speaker 2: be fine with me. What do I care about that
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  Speaker 2: they're selling the state out? Now? Again, I'm not opposed
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  Speaker 2: to online sports betting. If it's going to be done, however,
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  Speaker 2: it should be done in a way that's of the
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  Speaker 2: best interests of the people of Wisconsin. This isn't among
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  Speaker 2: the things that you can do. You go to the
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  Speaker 2: tribes and say this is I'm just giving you numerous
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  Speaker 2: things you could do. You go to the tribes and say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you want sports betting, here's what we want. We want
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  Speaker 2: you to make a much larger payment to the state.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, the state gets a percentage of the amount
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  Speaker 2: of mone money that's gambled at the casinos. This is
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  Speaker 2: in lieu of taxation. You create a higher percentage for
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  Speaker 2: the sports betting. Given how much money is involved in
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  Speaker 2: the sports betting. This could be used for tax relief
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  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. And so on. It's one thing you can do, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you want this, give us more money since we're granting
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  Speaker 2: you a monopoly. The other thing you could do is
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  Speaker 2: you tell the Potawatamies, in particular, you drop your opposition
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  Speaker 2: to Kenosha so we can get the hard Rock proposal
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  Speaker 2: finally building Kenosha. You want your sports betting thing, well,
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  Speaker 2: then hard Rock gets to come into the state and
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  Speaker 2: build their casino and you pot of Watamies are going
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  Speaker 2: to shut up with your opposition to that. Something you
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  Speaker 2: could do again. I'm not saying if to do any
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  Speaker 2: of these things. I'm just saying some of the things
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  Speaker 2: you would throw out there if you were negotiating rather
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  Speaker 2: than whurring out. Here's another thing you could do. Say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you continue to have your monopolies on the casinos. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: else with the tribes can run casinos. But the sports betting,
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  Speaker 2: if you want it, you have to agree to allow
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  Speaker 2: anybody else to come in. So potawatam Is you can
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  Speaker 2: have your sports betting is. You can have your sports betting.
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  Speaker 2: But DraftKings and Fan Duel and Caesars and all the
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  Speaker 2: others they do it across the country. They get to
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  Speaker 2: come into that to me, would be the best way
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  Speaker 2: of doing it. If you're gonna allow sports betting, you
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  Speaker 2: do it with competition so the consumer can choose who
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  Speaker 2: it is that they want to do this with. Remember
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  Speaker 2: that the tribes do not pay income taxes, private companies do.
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  Speaker 2: Some people don't want this at all. They think that
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  Speaker 2: betting on sports is bad. My retort to that, and
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  Speaker 2: there are negative nonsides to betting on sports. I bet
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  Speaker 2: on sports. I'm not gonna deny that. You can now
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  Speaker 2: do it legally in Wisconsin. Good on a potawatamy and
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  Speaker 2: do it. The fact of the matter is the genies
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  Speaker 2: out of the bottle. They're betting on sports in thirty
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  Speaker 2: nine states. Whether Wisconsin allows it or not, lows it
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to do anything to clean up the problem
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  Speaker 2: with regardding to things that are happening with people fixing
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  Speaker 2: games and so on. Secondly, if you don't allow legal
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  Speaker 2: sports betting, people will do what they've been doing forever,
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  Speaker 2: which is bet illegally. You either find a bookie they're
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  Speaker 2: still around, or you bet with one of these illegal
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  Speaker 2: offshore companies, which many people do, in which nobody gets
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  Speaker 2: any revenue and they'll still exist for that purpose. When
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  Speaker 2: you bet illegally with a company that's not in the
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  Speaker 2: United States. They're not sending any text, statement to the
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  Speaker 2: government or anything like that. But I don't see a
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  Speaker 2: particular reason that you not have this. I'm saying that
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  Speaker 2: if you do it, you shouldn't give these three tribes
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  Speaker 2: the exclusive control of it. Next, there's a big dirty
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  Speaker 2: secret here that nobody ever wants to talk about, and
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  Speaker 2: that is Native American tribes do not work together and
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  Speaker 2: they do not consider themselves to be of the same.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if race is the right term, but
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  Speaker 2: one tribe doesn't give a crap about another tribe. There
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  Speaker 2: are numerous tribes in Wisconsin that do not have a
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  Speaker 2: casino in Milwaukee Dells or Green Bay. You go up
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  Speaker 2: north and there's some of these really small casinos, and
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  Speaker 2: some of the smaller tribes there's I think the loc
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  Speaker 2: de Flombo have one or this or that or the
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  Speaker 2: other thing. They are not in the primo locations. Those
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  Speaker 2: tribes are often destitute. The tribes they don't have casinos
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  Speaker 2: here in the big cities, they're still really, really poor.
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  Speaker 2: The members of the Pottawatamie tribe which is a small
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  Speaker 2: tribe from Forrest County. They're wealthy. It's a small tribe,
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  Speaker 2: and they've got the casino and the biggest market of
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  Speaker 2: the state, Milwaukee, and they don't do a dog well,
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  Speaker 2: they don't do much of anything for any of the
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  Speaker 2: impoverished tribes. They're in it for themselves, and okay, they
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  Speaker 2: should be in it for themselves, but the legislature of
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin is supposed to be in it for everybody, not
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  Speaker 2: just these three select tribes that are making so much
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  Speaker 2: money off of these casinos that they're able to bank
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  Speaker 2: raw politicians. So why did this thing get delayed. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't get delayed because of any good government types. And
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  Speaker 2: it didn't get delayed because the media was blowing a
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  Speaker 2: whistle on the total hoaring out of the state of
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin to these three tribes. It got derailed because talk
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  Speaker 2: radio hosts started complaining about it. When this, by the way,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: this proposal is been do talk about fast track. This
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: was introduced October twenty ninth. Today when we're doing the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: podcast is November the nineteenth, three weeks when the proposal
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: came out. I criticized it on my program on my
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: podcast here. Since then, I don't know if all the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: talk show hosts in wys and have objected to it,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but I know that Dan and VICKI talked about it
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a lot. If Jay and Ben and some of the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: others also did. I can't keep track of everything, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I know that it's been a big stink was made
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: by Vicky mcketta and Dan o'noddo. And then yesterday I waited.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a podcast yesterday, so I wighed out
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: on X formerly known as Twitter, and I did a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: series of points that I can keep them in rather
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: than do a long thread, which you can do on X.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think those work on X. I think when
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you do a shorter thing, people are likely to read
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it than five shorter bullet points are likely to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: read than one long thing in which I laid out
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: exactly what was going on here. Between then and this morning,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: something happened. Tyler August, the Assembly sponsor of the bill, said, well,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: we've had concerns raised by members. In other words, some
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of the Republicans that were prepared to blindly go along
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and vote for this puke of a bill started questionting,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and in part because they were hearing from constituents who
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: had been made aware of what was going on because
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: of some wis and talk show hosts. And for me,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: other than us, there's no And you could say we're
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a special interest. What we are is a group that
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: can at least inform the public. As for the Democrats,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: they're totally horrid out of this, totally and they have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: been as long as you know, ever since Doyle did this.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And even the radical progressively you know, the socialists at
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: all in this, they're fine with it too. The only
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: entity that is trying to raise some opposition to get
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a at least, in my opinion, better bill. I don't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: think we need to kill the bill, a better bill,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: have competition, Let everybody come in and do it, or
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: at the very least green light the hard rock so
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that they can come in big operation, or make the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: tribes kick in a much higher payment to the state
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin in exchange for being able to have this
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: monopoly status. There's any number of things that you could
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: do rather than give it away to them. So the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: good news here is some public pressure coming exclusively from
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the right, has slowed this thing down for at least
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a couple of months. The instructive thing though, is that
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: if talk radio hosts and podcasters like me have not
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: brought this up, it would have sailed through the Assembly.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: As for the Republican lawmakers that are doing it, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: if Tyler August was sitting here, I'd say, Tyler, I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: understand why the Oneidas and the ho chunks of the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: potawanavies want it. Hundreds of millions of dollars are going
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to be belt with them, and they make a profit
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: off of that. I actually had somebody recently asked me
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: how they make money on sports betting. Well, the answer
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: is there is a excess charge and a losing bet.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: The house doesn't make any money on a winning bet.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: As an example, one ten is the common number. If
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you bet a team on the point spread, you bet
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred and ten to win one hundred. So if
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you win your bet, you get two hundred and ten
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: back your original one hundred ten plus the one hundred
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you win. But if you lose one hundred and ten.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: For some of these proposition bets, the spread is even greater.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: It's the same as any other casino game. You just
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: build in a house edge into the bed. It's a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: grind way of making money, but the grind is monstrous
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: given the amount that's bet. So I would say, Tyler,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I understand why the pottos in United isn't the ho
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: junks want this? Why would anybody in Wisconsin want it? Now?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: The answer partly would be what people who want to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: bet would now be able to bet online. That's true,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and as I say, I'm not opposed to that part
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of it. But why are you giving this monopoly to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the tribes that already have a monopoly at all casino gambling,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and why are you giving them a monopoly on online
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: sports betting? Why is that in the leaders of Wisconsin.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Tyler would say, Why don't you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: tell them? At least Okay, if we want to get
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: you're gonna We're gonna give you this. You know, read
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the art of the deal. Then we want ABCD do
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: what Trump will do, ask for the entire alphabet and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: then cave and get half the alphabet. That's what a
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: deal is. But again, it's like when the teachers' unions
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: used to negotiate with lefty school boards on pay raiss.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Both sides were trying to get the pay rais. Nobody
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was looking out for the taxpayer as usual. So this
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: thing will be delayed at least a couple of months.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: The legislature comes back next year, and as I say,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I am open to supporting an online sports betting bill
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that is better than this putrid giveaway to the tribes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: By the way the sponsors of the bill, I'll show
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you how bipartisan this is, and bipartisan means so often
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: will see this in a couple of other industries in
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: which the special interest is smart enough that it doesn't
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: just give money to Republicans that it doesn't money to Democrats.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: It gives money to anybody that will do their bidding
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: in the Assembly. Some of people will know these names,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but it's half Democrats and half Republicans. August that's Republican Heywood.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: That's Kaelon Heywood Junior, the son of Keilon Heywood Senior.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: He's the developer that has been amenmeshed in controversy for
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a long long time. His son is in the legislature.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: What a surprise. Like father, like Sun Dolman, Anderson, Banky, Green, Gustavsen, Kurtz,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: mrsa On Novak, Penerman, Prado, Siniki Stubbs, Witky and Stroud
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: half Republicans, half Democrats, and the Senate the sponsors are
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Mark Line, He's Republican, das the Ipheim Democrat, Fean, Republican, Spreutzer,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I think Democrat testing Republican, and so on. So everybody
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: gets the their beekqut on this thing. But as I say,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: something happened in which the Republicans control the Assembly, so
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: they determine whether or not a bill can be called
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: for a voter or not. Something happened in which Tyler
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: August either didn't have support to get the bill passed
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: or he heard from enough members of the Assembly who
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: at least want to improve this bill. And I suspect
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it's because the only voices that are representing the whole
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: remaining five million people of the state either do a
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: talk radio or do a podcast. You can take this
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: example that we used on this and compare it to
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: any number of other issues that are out there. There
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: was another bill that was considered several months ago that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: is also so far not passed. It was the bill
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: that would give the Wisconsin Utilities a monopoly to build
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: all the power lines in the state. And building power
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: lines is unbelievably lucrative, and with AI coming in, there
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: are going to be a lot more power lines and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: so on. In that instance, though, there was an opposition.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: All the companies that aren't Wisconsin Utilities opposed the bill.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I opposed the bill. I don't like them. In some instances,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you have to have a monopoly. It's not practical for
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a thing not to be a monopoly. Electricity is an
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: example of that. We still require electricity to be delivered
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: by power line. Well, you can't have ninety million different
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: companies with power lines that are in there. There's really
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: no way around it. Initially cable television was like that
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: when the cable had to come in via a wire.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But once satellite distribution came in and now Wi Fi
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: where anybody can get it, you don't need a monopoly anymore.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But obviously, in some instances monopolies are necessary. By and large,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: they're bad. Competition in the free market is good. The
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: people who like monopolies are Marxists, which is why I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: suspect that the Democrats have been in on this in
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the beginning. But the biggest reason that they've been on
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is they you sold themselves out in exchange for campaign money.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Doyle was the primary was the first whore with regard
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to hoaring out to the tribes, and now just about
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: everybody else is hoaring out as well. But obviously we've
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: managed to stop this. I'm the anti horror here. Dan
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and Vicki were involved in this as well. I'm on
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the non horring side of this. Let me move on
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to another story. This is another interesting story that's going on.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It's been behind the scenes and it's now percolating to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the front of the scenes. As you may know, there's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: been a group that's formed here in southeastern Wisconsin to
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: oppose reckless driving. The reckless driving is not the reckless
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: driving that we're used to of you know, somebody, we
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you know, et cetera. It's the people that are driving
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: in the city of Milwaukee and so one going ninety
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: five miles an hour in city streets, blowing through stop
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: signs at all of that. Well, a coal ash it
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: has been formed that is opposed to it, and one
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: of the things that it's been wanting to do is
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: encourage prosecutors to actually follow through on criminal charges rather
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: than have these things reduced to citations. The group is
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: called Enough is Enough, and they're pressing, in particular, the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County District Attorney's office to be more aggressive in
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the handling of these cases. Guess who doesn't like this?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Who wouldn't like that? Why are you idiot? God? This
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is the simplest question I'm going to ask. Who wouldn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: like cracking down on people that are driving recklessly? Reckless drivers?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: An there's no association of reckless drivers out there, so
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: who would speak in their behalf? The State Public Defenders Association,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the State Office of Public Defender in the state of Wisconsin,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: is objecting to communication that's gone on with the Milwaukee
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: County DA's office and this group. Enough is enough and
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: their suggest that this is inappropriate that the DA's office
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is listening to this group. First of all, this is insane.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with the DA listen to anybody. The
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: DA listens to adversy group advocacy, people that are against
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: child abuse, people that are against domestic violence, people that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: are against drug abuse, and there's groups that deal with
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: all sorts of things, and they communicate with prosecutors' offices
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: all over the country all the time. It doesn't mean
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that the prosecutor is going to do what they want.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: In each of these instances, mothers against drunk driving, for example,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they demand the tougher drunk driving laws. The prosecutors have
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: talked to those people all the time, and in many
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: big counties in the United States they talk to the
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: lefties all the time as well. The alternatives to incarceration cash,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: no cash, bail, etc. Well, the public defenders don't like
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the nocean that we might actually cracked out of people
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: doing is so they are objecting to the DA's office
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: even meeting with this group. Bob Donovan, Republican member of
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the State Assembly, a portion of is this that concludes
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the city of Milwaukee. He's outing them on this in
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: blasting the public defenders for objecting to this group having
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: communication with the District Attorney's office. I think what needs
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to happen here is the public defenders need to understand
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: their role. The role of the public defender is to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: represent at prial. It is not to advocate for the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: rights of people to be able to break the law
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: before they're arrested. I acknowledge somebody's arrested for murder, they
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: have a right to a lawyer. Supreme Courts made a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: clar you have a right to a lawyer, and if
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you're an idiot, you have a right to be your
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: own lawyer. Like Daryl Brooks. If I was ever accused
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: of something, you think i'd make You think I'd make
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a good lawyer. If I represented myself, think I would.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: They always say a man who represents himself as a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: fool for a client, that's an old, old sing well
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: isn't a good One of the reasons it's not a
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: good idea is see, I'll give you the one reason
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: it is a good idea. You cannot compel someone to
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: testify in their own defense, but if you represent yourself
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you can. Kind of that's a Brooks who was stupid.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: If Brooks wasn't he was trying to get his defense
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: in without having to testify, because when you're testify you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: can be cross examined. So he was trying to by
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the he was stupid and didn't know how to do
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: it anyway. The public defenders are objecting to people that
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: are advocating to not have reckless driving. That's not their role.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Their role is when somebody is arrested for reckless driving,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: once they get into the legal system, to represent them,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: but not to in advance a Poe is cracking down
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on this. That's not a criminal defendant. That's talking about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the approach that we have to the laws in our society.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Semi related, it's more than semi related. Here's an interesting
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: We have high speed chases all the time, I mean
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: all the time. This one occurred a few days ago
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: in West Alice. It's worth diving into. By the way,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the uh you could always tell when something is done
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: by AI. Fox six uses AI to do the summaries
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of their news stories, and then usually reporter writes the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: story that they post online, but the summary as comes
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: from AI. You know, I could tell that this is
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: done by AI. You know how they spell West Alice.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: First of all, wes is we s t This is
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: how they spell Alice Alice. Now I'm guessing there's no
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: actual reporter at Fox six. That's that stupid right. No,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: in fact, in the actual story they spell it correctly.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: This is the summary that you find online that's generated
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: by AI. Post is he hates A. I will say
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: this when I Google something and AI AI, they'll get
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable, how good it is. It's better usually than
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: they bring it. Now again, everything at Google is has
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: always been AI. There's not like somebody, Okay, I want
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: to know something about who won the soccer games in
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: France today. It's not like some guy did that. It's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: always been a computer model and so on. Anyway, West
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Alice Police we're involved in a high speed chase for
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the guy who has later been learned to be a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: fedadol dealer. Here's how the story came about. The authorities
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: responded to on November thirteenth. Now again we're doing the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: podcast in the nineties. This is on Thursday of last
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: week to a home. You're seventy fourth and Walker in
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: West Alice. There was an od death. Thirty year old guy.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, forty year old guy died of an overdose.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: It was fetanol. Sadly, this happens all the time. It
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: looks like it's down somewhat this year, which is good. Anyway,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: they found a woman on the and they also they
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: found scales and all of the other stuff. The investigators
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: questioned the woman, who was a longtime girlfriend, and she
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: gave up the name of the dealer. Pretty good casework.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: You certainly can prosecute the person who gives somebody if
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you know two people are doing fetanyl. The person who's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: doing it with you can be criminally charged, and you've
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: got that leverage on them, and it can often be
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: in their interest to give up the dealer, because I
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: think the authorities would rather get the dealer than give
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the person who simply was doing the fed at all.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: With the person who overdosed. She gives up the dealer,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: so the authorities go to sit on his home. His
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: name is Duquean. Walton police, through their undercover operation, arranged
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a controlled buy. A controlled buy is essentially a sting.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: All right, we know somebody's a drug dealer. We need
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: somebody to pose as the person who's going to buy
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: the drugs. They did this at thirty ninth in National
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Walton showed up, he spotted what was going on, and fled.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Chase ensues. It's apparently a seven minute chase and seven
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: minutes going high speeds on city streets. That's actually longer
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: than you think. Very very dangerous according to the authorities.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: They could see him and you'd say, why would you
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: run here? See, Paul's stupid when it comes to things
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: like this. You have a cop in your family, though,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I think that this should make you smarter. Why would
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: somebody who's showing up for a fenenol's thing run there
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: you go, they have fentanyl with them, So what do
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: they do when they're running? Throw it out the window.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Watch any of these videos, they've thrown it out the wind,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: throw it out the window. Of course, this is where
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it's so great that there's dash cams on now almost
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: every squad car, so they see him throwing the stuff
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: out the window, throwing the stuff out the window. When
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: they finally pull him over, he admits they're doing all
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the driving and all of this stuff, et cetera. But no,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I never had any drugs because he was throwing it
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: out the window. They said cash bond at fifteen thousand dollars.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's enough. I don't know. He was
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: only charged yesterday. I don't know if he's posted it
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and he's out or not. Again. Much of the reckless
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: driving is this, So when you'd have an advocacy group,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: they're gonna come in and say, okay, in addition to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the fact that the guy you're pretty much having dead
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to right stealing fentandyl, don't just dismiss the reckless driving
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: part of this. Onto the sentence when you convict him,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: or let's imagine you can't make the drug case sticks
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: somehow the woman who said he's our dealer, she doesn't
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: cooperate anymore. And I'm not saying this will happen or
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: they can't prove that he need to have the FEN
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: at all. Well, you have the reckless driving, you have
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that he ran off of this. Give him
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: five years in prison for that. That's what these people
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: have been urging be done. And there's nothing wrong with
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: them talking to the da in the same way that
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: if the da IS can't love her, now gets on
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the phone and I want to talk to him and say,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: can I think we ought to crack down this? I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: haven't that right as a citizen as well public image,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to do that. The only time
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: lefties think you shouldn't be able to lobby the government
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: is when you lobby from the perspective of a conservative.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: They think any kind of pressure illegal, burn things down,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: attack people. Lefties can do anything, and TIFA, the Marxists,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: they can do any of the palest anything they want.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Anybody on the conservative side, ever, even like speaks out
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: or your turning put form a few chapters. You need
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to be killed. Aren't you learning things by listening to me?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Very instructive program here so far today? See, I could
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: never be allowed to teach like this. The kids could come,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Oh we have a teacher. He's a raving maniac. He's
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: this old man yelling and screaming at us, and they
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: becoming he's yelling, he's making them uncomfortable. My little kid
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: had his cell phone here when he took a hammer
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and smashed the thing. Oh would I wouldn't it be
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: great if you could like go be a teacher, just
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to be like a dink teacher for like two days,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: smash all the cell phones in you know, if some
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: kid is acting up and beating up, being a bully
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to another kid, being able to crack the kid and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: all the things that you can't do or be a teacher.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And you see a lefty teacher sitting in the faculty
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: loud and loud. You just by mistakes or to spill
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: your coffee all over the left en right, Yeah, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: wear the meg of cap in the class while you're
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: teaching again. Then I gotta let you do it by
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: be able to do it. As long as you did it,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: it's clearly time to take a break on the Mark
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. All right,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: this whole issue now of affordability. First of all, the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: lefties had no concern about affordability at all when Joe
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Biden was making everything unaffordable. But it's now the thing
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that they're running on. See. Trump's had all these successes
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: in all of these different areas, so they need to
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: change the subject, and affordability is becoming the platform that
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: they are suddenly running on. Fair enough, affordability is an
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: issue in America. The question that we have to ask
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: is how did things become so unaffordable, particularly in the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: big cities where the cost of living is extreme. Very
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: good column on this issue by William mcgirrin and The
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal. I'd summarize this point, but he opens
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the column pretty good and it's a summary in and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of itself, so I'll share it. He writes in his
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight book The Joys of Yiddish, I got
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: to admit I've never read that Joys of Yiddish. Yiddish
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: is like, it's like an language that Jewish people speak,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: but it's not an official language, you know, Yiddish. The
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: joys of Yiddish. Leo Rastin defines hutzba this way, so
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you know, hutsma is an example of Yiddich. Hutzpa is
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: like gaul, but gall and like a gallin, like a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: more brazen type of gall and a sort of humorous
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: gall in. Fact, so much gall that it's over the top,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that you kind of make a farce of yourself. That's hutzba,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: This defiance hutzba. That quality enshrined in a man who,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: mercy of the court because he's an orphan, saying's been
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: out there a long time, probably because this guy came
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: up with that of the book. Judge, you can't do
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: anything to me for killing my mother and father, after all,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I'm an orphan. Say you get it the answer mcgern
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: is going with regard to the Democrats, saying, let us
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: take care of affordability. Today in Washington we have a
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: new example. It comes in the form of Democrats who
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: have spent years making life more expensive for Americans and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: who have now proposed fixes that reflect the same government
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: first thinking that made things unaffordable in the first place.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Does anyone really believe that the answer to what ails
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: us is more government spending or yet another government program.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Let me interjeck. In fact, the people that are biting
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: on this think yes. The people that are embracing socialism
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and want the government to give them all of these
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: things somehow think that's the answer, even though this is
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: what's created the problem. Now, rather than going to the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: entire column, I'll give you my example. You let ten
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: million illegal immigrants to come into the country, what do
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you think is going to happen in regard to affordability?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Look at the pressure on housing, the pressure on food,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and the pressure this more or demand without any type
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: of increase in supply just one example. You can come
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: up with numerous other examples of how government mandating red
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: tape and regulations and so on drives up the price
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: or the cost of offering a product or a service
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: because you've got to hire all of the people to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: do all of the Another one would be DEI. You're
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: hiring all of these people that do DEI that has
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with actually providing the service. The company
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: that makes the canop pies is all these DEI people
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: in there. Well, they have to pay all of them.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: That means the peas will cost more. Numerous examples of
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: this property taxes. Why is rent so high? Well, one
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of the reasons red has to be high is because
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the landlords have to pay obscenely high property taxes. You're
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: getting you're in the rental business to make money, so
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you have to charge more for rent than all of
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: your costs are. So when you put in a free
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: trolley and the city has to subsidize it, the property
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: taxes go up, and that makes the cost of the
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: rent go up. The point that mcgerrn is making here
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: is that the Marxists who think that they can propose
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the answer to affordability by making things free and having
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: government give them away, ignore the fact that that simply
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: raises all of the costs, and you can't make things
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: free to get your what they need to summarize this
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: into a pithy statement, Well, the Margaret Thatcher statement, which
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I could earlier the week of the podcast still holds.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem. All these things that are free,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: somebody else is still paying for and you haven't done
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: anything to actually make it cheaper. You're just forcing the
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: price to go up on everything else in order to
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: make this one thing over here free. But everything can't
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: be free. Somebody has to make it, somebody has to
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: provide it, and somebody has to pay for it. And
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: to the extent that you keep making them pay more
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: and more and more, they'll stop doing it. The problem
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: with any argument against welfare, socialism, Marxism, and I've explained
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: this many years, it's the whole bumper sticker mentality of
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the left. In order to argue against socialism and Marxism,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you have to explain why it doesn't work. But turn
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: around and simply say rent should be free without defending it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Put it on the bumper stick rum. I'm not he
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: saying we're gonna make rent free, We're gonna make this free. Well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: people are going to vote for that unless they realize
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that it not only isn't going to work, it's gonna
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: make everything worse. But that's where the explanation comes in.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: This is why the left increasingly feels the need to
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: murder those of us on the right, because those of
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: us on the right, like Charlie Kirk, we're explaining why
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: this stuff doesn't work, or where they scream and shout down,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: or they claim you don't have a right to exist,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: you don't have a right to be here, you don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: have a right to say that. Those of us on
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the right have the power of reasoning and persuasion. What
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the people on the left have is demagogery and a
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: lust for power. Because they can't win any of these arguments,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: they're now resorting to killing those who make them. The
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: whole illegal immigration question is a perfect example of this.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: We're going to move to that point in a moment
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: here and also focus on and I'm a champion, I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: a fan of legal immigration, but some of the legal
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: immigration that we have in the United States is mimicking
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that of Europe, which has been a disaster. I'm gonna
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: explain why before we get to that. In fact, let's
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: do it now. Run de Santus is term limited. He's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: going to he can't run for another term as governor Florida,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: so it'll be out of a job as of January
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of twenty seven. He's obviously on the outs with Trump,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: but he's starting to raise an issue in some speeches
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that I think are going to resonate with a lot
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: of Republicans he seems to me to be running to
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the right of trump advance on immigration. Now, the lefties
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: out there can't believe that that's possible because they can't
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: stand ice that can't stand that you're throwing anybody out
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of the country. Desantus is targeting not only illegal immigration,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: but legal immigration. Now, I think the issue of legal
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: immigration is much more complicated than that. I generally support
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: legal immigration, but this resettlement of refugees that's going on,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: which is legal immigration, is problematic. I'm going to read,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: first of all, what DeSantis is saying about this quote.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Illegal immigration is bad. Legal immigration, no matter what is good.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, bringing ten million people from Somalia and
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: dumping them into Georgia is good just because it's legal.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I think we have to think critically about what we're
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: doing with immigration policy. Is it benefiting the American people?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Is it helping to promote a strong American culture. We
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: should never bring people into this country who hate America.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Don't do what Europe did. Your pursued mass migration. It
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: was legal, it was intentional, and it's turned out to
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: be disastrous. Now I'm going to get into the implications
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: of Dissanta's raising this issue in a moment, but first
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I want to deal with it on the substance some
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: of the resettlement of migrants, whether they be Somali, some
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: other parts of Africa, Muslims in the Middle East, all
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: of the programs that have been going on in Europe
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: and to a lesser extent but still widespread here in
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the United States. It is different than the type of
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: legal immigration that we've had from the beginning of our
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: country and before the beginning of our country. Other than
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: the Native Americans we call American Indians, everybody is a migrant.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: But throughout the course of our history, those people who
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: migrated here came here because they wanted to be Americans.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: The immigrants who came to the United States from France
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and Germany and Italy named the countries throughout time, we're
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: coming here because they wanted to be Americans, and they
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: loved what America represented. They wanted to be part of
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the culture and the rules and the lifestyle that we
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: have here. What has happened with illegal immigration and with
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: resettlement of migrants is you have people that are coming
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: here who hate the United States and what it stands
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: for and want to change it. This is the thing
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: that's tearing apart Europe where there's been you know, Europe
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: has had this general culture of openness, do what you
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: want and so on, and Muslims come in who believe
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: in Shariah law and are very very intolerant, and now
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: many of the people in Europe say, we don't recognize
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: our countries anymore. There are people are setting to Irving, Texas.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: It's a suburb of Dallas. It has a massive Muslim population.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: They have two Shariah law courts there. They're not official,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: they're not part of our government, but Muslims are enforcing
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Sharia law against fellow Muslims in Irving, Texas. Shariah law
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: can include shopping hands, any number of things. You saw
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: with the illegal immigrants. They were coming to the United
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: States and burn the American flag. Again, very very unusual. Okay,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I hate America, Well then why the hell are you
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: coming here? Imagine if you're going on vacation, I hate
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Well, then why do you come to Las Vegas?
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Presumably you wouldn't go to a place that you hate.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: What we're seeing with mass settlement of people that are
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: coming here just because they were starving to death in
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: the country that they were in. They weren't rejecting the
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: toxic values from those nations that they want to take
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: those values and displace the values that have been in
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: existence here. And then they expect everybody in America who's
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: believed American values forever and ever and ever that we've
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: been part of, we have to give up our values
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and instead accept the values of the people that are
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: coming in here. And de sad Is his point is
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: is that if you're not coming here because you want
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: to be American and want to support what we stand for,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: you're probably not going to assimilate. Well. In fact, there's
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: been a desire almost to not assimilate most of the
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: ethnic groups that have come to the United States legally assimilated.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: For example, Italians. Italian Americans are very very proud of
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: their Italian heritage, but they're Italian Americans. They're very very
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: patriotic German Americans the same thing almost every other group
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: that you mentioned. Their ethnicity is something in which they
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: still respect their culture, the lifestyle, the cuisine, hang around
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: palorand together and so on. But they're here to be
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Americans and they believe in what America has represented. Much
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of The problem, in my opinion, with some of the
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: migrants that are coming into this country is that they
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: are members of the most intolerant religion on the planet,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: which is Islam. Some Muslims are somewhat tolerant, but the
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: majority of them are intolerant. And then there's the number
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: of people that are not only intolerant that they believe
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: in jahad. They believe that if you're not a Muslim,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you should die well. Inviting them to come in legally,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: it seems to me is not particularly smart. And you've
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: seen YOUU have suffer over this. Anyway, let me get
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: out of the political part of the equation in this.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Dsanas is suddenly on this piece here that appeared in
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the American Conservative. They're suggesting that Disantas is planning to
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: run for president in twenty eight and run against Vance.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Most people believe, and again we're about a year away
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: from this developing. Most people believe that Dvance and Rubio
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: will run as a ticket. The Advance and Rubio know
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that running against one another is mutually assured destruction, and
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: the Advance and Rubio will cut a deal in which Van,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: since he's the vice president, runs first. He runs as
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the president, Rubio runs is the vice president. Whether that
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: happens or not, we don't know. But the suggestion in
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: this piece in The American Conservative is that DeSantis will
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: oppose Vance and try to run to the right a
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Dvance and Rubio, particularly an immigration. You talk about a country.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: We've got riots going on in big cities who think
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: that Trump is too anti immigrant. And if DeSantis does
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: indeed run and claim that Trump is soft on this
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: issue and therefore Vance is soft on the issue, I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: think that there would be many Republicans, though, that would
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: agree with the status on that issue. Let me share
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: a few paragraphs on the piece of the American Conservative.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Desatus will have to play this delicate game of distinguish him, saying, reading, well,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: let me set it up this way. What killed Dessatus
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: when he ran in twenty four He was running against Trump,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: and Trump was victimized, run out of office, targeted, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: most Republicans therefore wanted to support Trump but for no
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: other reason to get back at what the left had
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: done to him. So Santas was in no man's then.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Even if people like Dessatus he's running against Trump. Well,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the one thing about Trump is he can't run for reelection.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: You know, listen to this bag, and he's not gonna
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna try to run for another term. So
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the point that the author is making here that we'll
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: get back to is Dusantus has to run against Vance
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: without running against Trump. DeSantis will have to play the
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: delicate game of distinguishing himself from the President's assumed air
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: while also supporting the president. He will have to convince
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: voters that it's not Desantus versus Trump, which killed him
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: in the last election, but de Santus versus Vance. It's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: clear that Dessantus wants to establish himself as the staunchest
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: immigration hawk among leading Republicans. It's no longer enough to
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: condemn illegal immigration. To make a Republican stand out, he
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: has to call for restricting legal immigration as well. Dessantus
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: makes his mark in this regard. Dessantus has decided to
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: lead the charge against H one B visas. Trump recently
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: fumbled on this issue in his disastrous Fox News interview
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: with Laura Ingram, where he appeared to be and to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: endorse the widely criticized visa. But it's with legal immigration
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: that Dessantas wants to distinguish himself bands. Depending on what
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the administration does, Dessantus could exploit discontent with the administration
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: not going far enough. Now, let me interject this piece
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: here for the American conservative, this is the kind of
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: stuff that goes on to the rate that the mainstream
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: media never covers. Their entire immigration narrative. Is Ice and
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Trump bad, all these illegal immigrants good. In fact, here
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: in the right there is a huge group of segment
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: of the population who thinks we're not going far enough,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: we're not throwing cut people out of the country fast enough,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: and that there's way too much legal immigration, there's way
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: too many foreign students going to American colleges. They don't
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: support the hvvvsas and so on. Without regard to your
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: position on this, there's no coverage of this. The guy
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: who realizes, however, that there were kens of millions of
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Americans who think that we need to be even more
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: strong on immigration maybe looking for a political champion, and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: this could create the opening for Dusanas again, whether you
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: agree with it or not, back to the peace. Dusanis
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: is changing tax for twenty twenty eight by adopting anti
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: tech populism. He now rails against the industries alleged transhumanism
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and wants AI heavily regulated. He warns about the apparent
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: danger of data centers and how they will upset the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: state's power grid. DeSantis is one of the leaders of
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the crusade against property taxes. Even with a new agenda,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the governor will still lack charisma and be with the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: same awkward guy interacting with the crowds. So that's a
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: piece from The American Conservative assessing Santis's chances of pulling
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: this off, and the piece acknowledges that Dsantas may indeed
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: have an opening by running believe it or not, to
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: the right advance and therefore Trump. But there's still the
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: issues of you know, DeSantis was awkward when he was
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. It didn't come for us as
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: smoothly as his interactions when he ran for governor of Florida.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Which brings us, of course, now to an update on
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the fascinating story of Marjorie Taylor Greed. Nown't we discussed
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: this and I think it was the last podcast. There's
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: more to it. No, we are awaiting the release the
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: massive dump of all of the Epstein files, which is
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: going to be an absolute mess. Files are evidence and
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: interviews and all of this stuff, and people are going
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: to see somebody's I'm mean, imagine if the cops are this,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: never mind something as massive as Epstein cops are in
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: you know, investigating a murder. Well they have ninety two
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: suspects before talking to this, that and the other thing,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: their names in here and so on. If you throw
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: all of that evidence out there doesn't mean any of
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: those people did anything wrong. And the left gars are
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: gonna look for anybody's name in here that's on the
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: right and say, well, your name is in here. They
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: could be somebody actually cooperating and helping to rat out
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: his lamb's in here anyway. Marjorie Taylor Green, who of
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: probably all the members of Congress, is I think the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: most mega of them, and Prump started mega this total
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: falling out that they've had. There's a massive piece in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal today on what's Marjorie Taylor Green
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: up to. Now. I believe I know everybody has ambition,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: and everybody in politics is virtually everybody in politics has
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: a massive ego. I'm going to say something that sounds
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: like an insult. But I'll explain it because it isn't
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: really what it's saying. Marjorie Taylor Green doesn't know her place.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Let me explain. What's the thing about. Is that the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Peter principle everybody rises to their own level of incompetence
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: or is that a different principle, whatever, what it is.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green will never win a statewide election in Georgia.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: She's perfect for her congressional district because she's a Rome Georgia.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: She represents a very conservative area. But in Georgia, which
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: is a swing state, she's toxic among moderates. All of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: these people on the left who have been making fun
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: of her forever. Well, there's a whole lot of people
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: that kind of swing back and forth in the middle
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: who make fun of her as well, which means that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: she's been an outstanding force in Congress to keep pushing
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: from the right and firing back at say, at AOC.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: But because of her style, which drives several people crazy.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: You know, she's at the state of the lefties are yelling,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: and she's yelling right back. She's wearing a red light
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: and blue clothes and all of this stuff. There's a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: limit though, as to how far she's going to go.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: And I think at the stead of Marjorie Taylor I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: don't want to just go this far again she's in politics.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Does Marjorie Taylor Green want to be a member of
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Congress forever? No one of them do, well, I mean
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: there are some. I mean Gwen Wore realizes that this
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: is the luckiest thing of the world that ever happened,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: where you don't see her trying to run for any
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: anything else. She's going to sit in Congress and not
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: do a damn thing because she gets to be a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: congress And Tammy bald is another example of that. But
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: marger Taylor Gray thinks that she should say somebody so
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: she's poked or knows about running for the United States Senate,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and Trump said, I'm not going to back you for that.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: You're not going to win. Trump wants every Congression. Trump
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: realizes that if in his in the next two years
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: starting in twenty seven, he doesn't have the Congress, he's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: blocked on everything. He desperately wants to keep a house
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: in the Senate, and he doesn't want candidates running who
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: are going to lose the seat. See the thing about
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Trump that nobody ever gives him credit for. Is he
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: learns many of the candidates that Trump backed for statewide
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: office in eighteen, twenty and twenty two they lost Arizona,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: a number of states. There are these mega candidates that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: some even argue doctor Oz in Pennsylvania, these mega candidates
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: that we were, you know, pro Trump, but they weren't
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: good enough candidates to win a statewide election. I think
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Trump now realizes he's got a back candidates who were
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: actually going to win rather than go down and lose
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: a forty two percent of the vote. So he said
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: that you're Marjorie Taylor Green. And my belief as to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: what happens is that Marjorie Taylor Green then went very
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: very public and said released the Epstein files, which Trump
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: certainly didn't want to do, because Marjorie Taylor Green wanted
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: to get back at Trump because she's thinking, I've supported
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: you Trump all this time, and now you're gonna tell
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: me that I can't run for the Senate, and Trump will,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, what you have to do with analyzing everything.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever does this other than me, I swear nobody does.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Put yourself in the other guy's shoes. So If you're
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, I've been ridiculed of and mocked all
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: of this crap because I've been supporting you Trump, and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: now you won't prop me up for this. Now, imagine
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: you're Trump and look at it I took. There's four
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: hundred thirty five members of the House of Representatives. What
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty of them are Republicans. Out of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: those two hundred and twenty, is there anyone that I've
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: given a beggar platform? The Marjorie Taylor Grade, she stands,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: she's out there, she's at the inauguration, all my speeches
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: on a leg. We got her all these places, we
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: proper our proper, our proper op, proper op, proper op,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: proper op, proper, give her all of this platform, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: now she hears one thing for me that she doesn't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: like and she turns on me. So that's where the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: rift occurs. She thinks that Trump owes him, and he
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: and Trump thinks that she that she thinks Trump owes her,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: and Trump thinks she owes him. So, if you're Marjorie
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Taylor Grade and you want to buck up against Trump,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: where do you go? Whe'd you go? You want to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: buck up against Trump? Where do you go? They'll all laughed.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: So she's now on the View, she's gonna be on CNN,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: she's gonna start going she's gonna try to make an alliance.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: And as I raised this on Monday's podcast, whether or
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: not it will work, And I honestly don't know. For
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: people who say the left will never embrace her, would
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: you have ever thought they would have embraced Liz and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Dick Cheney. They hated those people until they oppose Trump.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: The left hates Trump so much that if somebody who
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: was in Trump's orbit somehow starts swirling around in their orbit,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: will they maybe? So there she was in the view,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you cut it up with the old battle axis from
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the view and so on, and you watch and see
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: whether or not she keeps doing this, and she's you know,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: you can say a lot of things about her. She's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: got a sense of shrewdness to her. She knows how
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: to push buttons, and she may know how to push
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Trump's on. She goes to the View and starts ripping
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: on Trump when that's gonna drive Trump crazy. So she's
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: picking this fight because she probably sees okay, Trump says
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I can only be a member of the House forever
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and ever and ever, and I want to run for
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I want to run for the Senator. She's probably why
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: can't I run for president in eight, twelve, sixteen years. Well,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: when there are people that are telling you can't win,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna support you, or anything beyond that, she
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: feels his sense of rather than this is why I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: said earlier. She hasn't our place. Trump and most conservatives
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: have thought her place is exactly where. She is a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: combative member of the House who's going to fight the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: lefty radicals with their own fire. But if she tries
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: to run for something beyond this, she's simply gonna lose.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Update on the story here. Js Online is reporting that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: there are ple negotiations underway in the Hannah Dougan case.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I have said from the beginning that this case screams
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: out exactly for exactly that Hanna Dugan is the Milwaukee
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: County Circuit judge who I think dead to rights, broke
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the law. Ice shows up with a warrant, She sends
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: him down to the Chief Judge's office and allows the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrant to sneak out. Event they caught him anyway.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: But she clearly tried to obstruct the illegal immigrant from
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: being arrested by ICE, which is an law enforcement agency
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: with the rest authority, and they had a warrant. What
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: she did is illegal. The challenge for the federal prosecutors
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: will be to get a jury to convict her. But
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: as I explained on Monday's podcast, this is not a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County case. It's an Eastern District of Wisconsin case.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: So the jurors come from West Bench. Sheboygan Racine in
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: addition to say Milwaukee, West Allie and so on, could
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: get a jury who a convictor in her to her side.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: The federal judge seeing the case trying the case, Lynn Aidelman,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: is the leftiest federal judge in the state of Wisconsin
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: and one of the leftiest in the country, and she
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: may be hoping that she gets favorable rulings out of him,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: but she runs the risk that if she goes to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: trial and loses, that she would go to prison. I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: think this case screams for a plea. She pleads guilty
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: and what she gets in return and is forced to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: resign as a judge and she has to take a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: guilty plea. So she's convicted criminal. In exchange, she doesn't
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: get any prison time. That way, the prosecution gets its
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: conviction and they send a message that you can't obstruct
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: ICE agency. You'll face severe consequences. From the perspective of Dugan,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: one of the zillions of lefties who says to hate
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Trump and hate Ice, and she lost her mark. I mean,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: she consulted with another Milwaukee County judge right there, and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: that judge is cooperating with the prosecution. Even the really
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: leftist judges realize you can't do this, which is why
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: hardly any judges in the unit. All sorts of police
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: agencies and so on, but very few judges when confronted
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: with a warrant from the FEDS. Is look at how
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: when the Justice Department was crooked to get out, to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: get out to get Trump, how hard it was to
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: obstruct them, much less when they're actually enforcing an existing law.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: The illegal got a warrant for these people. Now, just
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: because these negotiations doesn't mean that there'll be a deal.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe they can't reach enough of a deal. Maybe do
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Good and her lawyers think that they can beat this
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: thing a trial. But I think that this is a
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: case that just screams out for a resolution with a
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: plea bargain that gets her off the bench, and I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: would contend also carries a criminal conviction. In return they
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: agree not to seek imprisonment for her, that she leaves
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: the bench humiliated to that's that it's a sufficient to turrent,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I think for these public officials that are out there
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: trying to obstruct ice without taking Hannah Dugan, who otherwise
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: is not somebody who's been spending her life going out
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: there and committing crimes. She just a lefty judge, and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: not even the worst lefty judge in Milwaukee County, far
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: from it. Not a terrible judge. She did something that's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: terribly wrong and she doubled down on it and for
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: which she should pay a price. But I just think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: this neither side, I think, wants this thing to go
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: to trial and run the risk of the other side
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: winning altogether. When we come back, all these athletes that
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: are going down being injured in particularly basketball and football.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Injuries have always been a problem in basketball. Now it's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: people are stunned this early in the season, how so
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: many players are going down. There is good news here
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. It appears as though Josh Jacobs, the pack
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: running back, will not need knee surgery. That's huge news.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: And the news on Giannis out of Kumpo of the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Bucks is very very good. His groin injury, which may
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: or may not be a tear, appears to be rather
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: minor and they think he'll be back in two weeks
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: rather than this being something that knocks him out for
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: months and months and months. Victor Wumbayama, the superstar of
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs, he's going to be out for
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: a few games. You've got guys going down already with
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: regard to football, they're dropping all over the place. We've
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: seen the last several years in the NBA, the team
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: that wins the championship is the team that doesn't have
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: five guys go out for the season in the postseason.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Look at Indiana last year. They made it all the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: way to the finals end then Tyrese Haliburton tears up
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: his knee. He isn't going to play all this year.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: We're going to dive into that story and an interesting
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: theory from I admit my theory is coming from an idiot.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Well it is. Well, I'll tell you what the idiot
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: is as soon as we come back after the break,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: which will be very very short on the Markedelling Podcast.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. As I said, I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: have a theory that's coming from an idiot. But here's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the thing about idiots. Some idiots are idiots always. There
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: are idiots who sometimes are right about things, right, Or
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: here's the more common thing. There are people who are
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: idiots in certain areas of their life. But if they
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: just stay in their own lane, they're actually kind of smart. Right.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: That would be like every Hollywood celebrity who tries to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: shoot off their mouth about politics and so on. I mean,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: most of them don't know a damn thing about it.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: If they just stuck to acting, they'd be perfectly fine. Right.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: George Clodia is anxiety, is a great actor, and all
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: of that stuff. He didn't know a damn thing about
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: how government anything works. If he simply stayed in his
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: own lane on that, he would he wouldn't be an
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: idiot if he didn't shoot his mouth off on that thing.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: What DeNiro's another example. Here's the one I'm going to cite.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Steve Occur, coach of the Golden State Warriors, multiple NBA champion,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: massive lefty and some of the things that he said
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: of and I get part of it consider where he's coaching.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: He's coaching in San Francisco. For Eaven's sakes. I mean,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: he has no choice but to be a lefty because
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: if he spoke on politics in San Francisco was a righty.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: He get in anyway, He's got a theory on why
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: there have been so many injuries this early in the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: NBA season, and his theory makes sense to me. I've
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: had my own theory about the general increase in injuries
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: and sports overall, and this plays into it. On my
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: theory with regard to the overall, athletes are stronger, faster,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: and the games are played much harder. Using football as
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: his gamble, other than say Dick Buckets, you go watching
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: go on YouTube and just watch highlights of games in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: the say fifties, sixties and seventies. They don't hit very
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: hard at all. What they did is they tackled. Now,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: you blow people up, you launch your bodies. In addition
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: to that, fifty sixty and seventies offensive line was like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: two hundred and forty pounds. They're no. Three forty running
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: backs for one eighty five some of them are two
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: fifty five and they're running the forty and four to four.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: In addition to that, look at the pace of the games.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: You look back at what Just go back and watch
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: an NFL game from the seventies on YouTube. There is
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: no no huddle. Maybe like right at the end of
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: the game, you'd run a play, you go back into
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: the huddle, you'd run another play. It just and they
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: played like fourteen and eventually sixteen games a year. The
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: athletes are bigger, stronger, faster, so when they crash into
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: one whether it's going to cause more damage than in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: an earlier era. Then you add in everything else, like
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: the length of the season and the additional number of games.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: In the nineteen sixties, the National Football League had one
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: playoff game, the championship. The winner of the East played
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: the winner of the West in one playoff game. Initially
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: they had twelve regular season games, then it was fourteen.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: You played a championship, so the most games a team
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: would play would be fifteen. Now there's thirty two teams
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: in there, thirty or thirty two. In football, you've got
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: all these rounds of playoffs. The regular season is seventeen
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: games and there's eighteen weeks and then you got all
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: these extra games in the playoffs and so on. All right,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: get back to Steve Kerr. One of the things that's happened.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: And I understand that most people don't follow the NBA closely,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: and I don't even think you don't follow the NBA closely,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: do you. Well, there's one thing that's really happened this
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: year different from last year. It's a trend that has
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: occurred in football is well, you'll hear Mike Marlette talk
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: about football. We have. Football analysis is teams that play
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: at pace, in other words, run more plays, not spend
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: as much time on the huddle. Run a play, try
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: to run another play, try to run another try to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: run another play. Well, simple common sense. The more plays
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: you run, the more guys are going to be hurt,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: because you nobody, hardly anybody gets hurt in the huddle,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: but running up and down the field and get it
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: off another play. The more times that you're out there
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: to be smacked around to do a thing, the greater
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: the chance that you're going to be hurt. Furthermore, the
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: more worn out you're going to be when you do
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: all of it. That's football in the NBA. The big
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: change so far this year is almost every team is
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: trying to play up tempo. Example, everybody says the best
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: coach in the NBA is Eric Spolster of the Heat.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: I mean they've been saying this. He must be a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: great coach. He's lasted forever, and every and everybody says
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: the best coach. The Miami Heat have been traditionally known
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: for a slower pace game, and they play spectacular defense.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: That's the way they bet. And he's a he's a
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: what's the term, he's a protege of pat Riley. Pat
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Riley was believed in defense and a physical nature of
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: the game and slow slow, slow, slow slow. When he
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: was at the next it is that the Lakers with
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: the Heat. That's what he did. Miami has stumbled in
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: recent years. Spoolstra announced that he had an epiphany this summer.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: We can't play the way I believe in anymore. The
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: game has changed. Miami is now giving up like one
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty points a game. They're just running up
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: and down the court. The over unders in NBA games
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: are going through the roof. The Bucks are a perfect example.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I think, not counting the injury of Giannis. I know
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: this sounds insane. The Bucks are better without Damian Lillard
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: than with him. Damian Lillard was a traditional point guard
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: and old. He'd bring the ball up the court. He'd
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: slow walk up the court, and by the time he
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: crossed the mid court line, there's like fifteen seconds left
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: in the shot clock. He dribbles around, sets up the play.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: They're looking to shoot with maybe six or five seconds left.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty much how all the great players did it.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Jordan kolbe et cetera. It's not the way teams want
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: to play anymore. They play with pace. Kevin Porter Junior
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: was going to be a very good point cut for
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the Bucks. He ripped up his knee. Now Ryan Rollins
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: has been spectacular, has taken over the position. They get
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: too up the court, big, big, big a fast pace,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: pace pace pay face. Part. Steve Kerr's theory is the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: teams are playing at such an intense pace, the guys
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: are getting more worn out and therefore more prone to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: be injured, even this early in the season, and he's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: concerned that by the end of the year it'll be
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: like football, where players have dropped like flies before we
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: even enter the playoffs. I think what Kerr says makes sense.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: It's simple common sense. I have believed for years the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: NBA seed. First of all, I think every sports season
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: is too long. You don't agree with me on that,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: do you welse's foot past perfect is? It's just not
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: it's too long. Football is training camp in July and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: they play the Super Bowl in the middle of February. Now,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I admit, for a team like that never makes like
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: say Dallas, their season usually ends on New Year's Day
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: with barely team that rarely team that rarely makes the playoffs,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: I think they're all too long. And I think on
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: almost everything in life less can be more. Nascar, Golf,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: and golf. They don't even have an off season anymore.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: NASCAR starts at a ton of five hundred in February
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: and their last race is in November. December of January
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: is all that's off. Golf's like the same thing. Golf
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: they have the first tournaments in early January golfs and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: it's off season right now with the play like exhibition
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: events and so on. In the case of the NBA,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: it's absurd. NBA teams go to training camp in late September.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: The preseason game start in early October, and the first
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: game of the year is in the middle of October.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: The NBA Championship has decided in June. If you're a
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: team that goes a long way, there's no offseason at all. Now.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: That may have worked in the era in which you
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: talked about football earlier. Watch old there's things are on
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: YouTube everywhere. They watch a Bucks game from the late
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: seventies the early eighties, and they had those really good
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: teams that never won a championship. With the Marcus Johnson,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Sydney Moncrief era, Junior Bridgeman, all of those guys. You'd
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: be shocked, especially if you're young, and how slow they
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: bring the ball up the court and how slow everything's going.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: A couple of passes and then somebody chet a jump
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: shot clank team to get the rebound, they come down court.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: There was nowhere near as much banging. There was nowhere
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: near the kind of also that we see now. It
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: was just it was a different style of game. So
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: you could last for eighty two games because not that
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: many people were breaking into that much of a sweat.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I think it would not hurt the NBA to shorten
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: their games to forty minutes. College games are forty minutes.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody thinks that's too long. People say I don't want
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: to go to a game. People leave before the games
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: are rubber as it is. I'm somebody who has season tickets.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think you'd lose anything by shortening the game.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: I think if you took the regular season from eighty
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: two to sixty four games, that would be fine. Now
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: here's why teams don't do it. Every sport is adding
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: to their season because the more games you have, the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: more rights that you can get for your TV broadcasts,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: and the more money that you make by selling tickets.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: If you sell tickets for I'll just use round numbers.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Any sport, sixty games, you make more money than if
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: you sell tickets for thirty games. I will tell you
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: that I would be willing to accept the notion of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: raising the prices per ticket. And they're already seen in
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: the NBA and playing fewer games. You know, by the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: time you get around to February, March, and April, for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: the teams that are going nowhere, they're playing for nothing.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: The teams that are ninety games out of first place,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: it's no meaning for them. For the teams that are
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: in contention, they're winding down. What do you care if
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: you're a three seed or a four seed? It becomes pointless.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: And the teams that make the playoffs, given the fact
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: that everybody's running faster and doing all this stuff, guys
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: drop like flies. Giannis appeared several years ago to rip
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: off his knee. Because he's got the strongest ligaments in
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: the world. He bounced right back, but it looked for
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: the all like he had an acl look at this.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Last season in the NBA, everybody fell down there at
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think that the nature of all of
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: these games is they're so much faster, there's so much harder,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: so much more physical. In sports in which there's no contact,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: like say tennis, probably not a big deal, or track
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: and field, probably not a big deal. But in the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: sport we're smashing into one another. The fact that there's
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: more action contained is taking this physical toll. And the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: thing with all of these sports is sports basically have
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: two things going for them. People enjoy seeing the game
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: and they enjoy seeing the great players. If the great
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: players aren't there, you're losing something that is integral. You'll
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: still have well Okay, it's still a great game. There's
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: still you know, Okay, the Packers. Let's imagine that they
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: don't have their quarterback, and they don't have a running back,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and they don't have two offensive vinements. They're still playing
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: an interesting game of football. But it's not as much
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: one to watch players that are only okay as it
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: is to watch players that are really, really good at
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: their craft. So I think that curries on to something.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: And I think that given the fact that the coaches
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: in football is the other sport where this has come
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: into play, have just realized that running more plays makes
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: more sense than running fewer plays and do things fast
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: and not waste any time. That it's creating a much
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: more demanding game. And these athletes, as they say, are bigger, faster, stronger,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: but the rest of their body isn't bigger, faster, or stronger.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: We have the same kind of bones and the same
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: kind of hearts and the same kind of lungs, and
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: the wear and tear becomes a greater thing. All right.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: We did this last week on Thursday, because we do
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: our normal football preview on Wednesday. I'm in a preview
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: the high school football championship games this weekend. We have
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: seven divisions. I need to correct something I said I
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: think last week about we divide the divisions into seven
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: divisions based on enrollment. They actually the WIA a couple
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: of years ago started to do something that I've advocated.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: They do enrollments a big part of it. But they
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: do put in a competitive component two which division you're in.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: In other words, say a school of small enrollment that's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: dominant every year, and say basketball, they move them up
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: a division or two. So there is some element of
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: that in there. And there's several teams, for example, that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: they did it just by enrollment. We division three rather
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: than two, or four rather than three, so forth and
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: so on. Anyway, they have seven divisions. They start the games.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: They're all played at Camp Brandle. They play four division
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: games on Thursday and then three on Friday, and they
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: do them in order Division seven, which is the some
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: states do at the opposite and Wisconsin the higher number
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: is the smaller school. I think that makes sense, don't you.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: It would seem like it should be the other way around.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: But there's a couple of states in which I think
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: it's Illinois. They like the sixth division six or six
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: a thing is the biggest schools what we do with
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: the opposite. I will admit I don't know anything about
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: some of the smaller schools other than we know where
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: they are. But the takeaway that I have and mentioning
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: this real quickly, is we have two hotbeds in Wisconsin
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: for high school football, Southeastern Wisconsin and Northeastern Wisconsin. There's
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: sometimes a team from Madison, like Wana Key is outside
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: of Madison, but otherwise you rarely see a Madison area
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: team make it to the championship and almost never these
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: bigger schools Western Wisconsin or Northern Wisconsin. So last time
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: you saw Stevens Point or wasauw or Old Claire. Those
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: are big high schools. Now in the smaller division. Some
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: of the smaller schools in that area have an opportunity.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: But there's two just huge hotbeds, and we see it
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: with regard to the recruiting as well. And that's northeastern Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 2: kind of like Fox Valley to Green Bay, like Oshkosh
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay that quarter and then Southeastern Wisconsin, but
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: not the city of Milwaukee. So let's give the smaller
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: schools the quick doo Cochrane, Fountain City plays Kenosha Saint Joseph.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Well Kenosha Saint Joseph's self explanatory Catholic School fro Kenosha.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Division six Darlington versus Edgar. Should I use the joke
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: that I use all the time. You got to give
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Edgar credit? Paul one guy pen against I've done that.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: I've done that joke with various schools. Forever. You fall
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: for it each time. Division five Mayville plays Northwestern. I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: think Northwestern is in Pelmira. No, it's not, I admit
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I could look that up, but probably
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: should have. Division four Little Shoot plays Winnikani. Little Shoot
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: is actually if you think this doesn't make sense, but
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: it makes sense when I say it. It's a large
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: small city. A large small city would be a city
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: that has a big high school in it, but only one.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Little Shoots a community of about ten or eleven or
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: twelve thousand. They're only in Division four. They run a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: smaller conference, and they're enrollment isn't as high as some
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: of the neighboring communities a similar population open enrollment and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: so on. Little Shoot is twelve and one. They play Winnakoni,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: which is thirteen and oh little shoots in the Fox
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Valley again. This is nowhere. We're starting to get into
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: my hotbed area. And Winnikani is northwest of Oshkosh. Division three.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Paul knows about the Grafton team. Grafton played an incredible
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: who do they beat? It was a great game. They
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Catholic memoryal Waukeshaw, Those Catholic Memorial has been a dynasty
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: forever in football. They came from behind and they beat him.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: And Paul said before that game that was the real
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Estate Championship. Paul was at it. We'll test it. Grafton
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: will play Reedsburg. Reidsburg is from kind of southwest Ish.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: It's it's in the general Madison area. Have to think
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: I think north of Madison, not sure for not sure.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Always going to all three games on what's the weather like?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: You haven't you haven't looked well? I mean I would look.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, does your wife lay out your clothes for you?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: She does, She's gonna say, Paul, put on this winter
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: coat and so on. Well, I know somebody's gotta know
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: what you gotta wear because they gotta know what the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: weather is. Would you you'll put your hand on Grafton
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: plays Reedsburg. Now again, Reidsburg might be in a conference
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: where they play larger schools, but they're ten and three
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: in graft that it's thirteen and no Division two. This
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: is these are both schools in the Green Bay area.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame plays West of Pier. Notre Dame is the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: Catholic school that covers Green Bay to Peer, that area
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: of northeast in Wisconsin. They're very very good. West to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Pier is the team that knocked out They knocked out
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Homestead last weekend. I watched the YouTube replay of that game.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Poll neither team could stop the other, and you know
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: the game, so they just matched touchdowns the whole game,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, and one team won by one point.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Why do you think that was messed that? You would
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: you believe that Homestead missed an extra point that's what
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: they lost by one point. And the game it was
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: like there were virtually no puns. The Homestead team runs
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: almost every play, so they would like have nine minute
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: possessions and West to Pier passed almost every play. And
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: it's just a great game. Two really strong teams. So
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: somebody had to lose. In West of Peer one, they
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: played Green Bay, Notre Dame. So those are both teams
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: in the Green Bay area. And then the Division one game, Arrowhead,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: the giant school from the Lake Country here plays Bayport.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Arrowhead is twelve and one, Bayport is eleven and two.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: That's the Division one game. And as I mentioned in
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: an earlier program, Bayport is the area right to the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: west of the city of Green Bay. It's kind of
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: a great kind of area for football, rather affluent area
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: of big yards for the kids and so on, and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like the Green Bay version of Arrowhead if
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: you would imagine. And Bayport's like a regional area school district.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: I think it might be in Swamaco, but there's all
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: these affluent suburbs of Green Bay moving to the west
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: over there that's Bayport. There are a team that's often
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: and so those are the seventeen he ind I'm certainly
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: not going to make any predictions on anything other than
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Paul has guaranteed a win by Grafton. And again from
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: what I've read and what I've heard from people who
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: follow this, those were the two best teams in Division three,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: which doesn't mean Bredsburg doesn't have a chance. As I've said,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: I just think there's too many divisions. I think the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: teams in Division two and beat the teams in Division
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: one and vice versa. And there's too many divisions in football.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I get why you have to do it. For the
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: smallest school. Some of these schools in Division seven, the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: kids are playing both ways because there's just not enough
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: to feel the team. In fact, you know, when Tucker
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Kraft went to high school in South Dakota, they played
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I think was it nine man or seven men football
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: that he played in high school, which it was nine.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: I mean in those really tiny schools that they literally
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: create a fewer player because there aren't enough players to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: feel the team. So anyway, Paul says that Grafton's quarterback
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: plays safety. Will that's a Division III school, You'll still
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: see it some of the time. In most of the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: large schools in Division one or two. Other than for
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: a niche purpose, they have one way players, which obviously
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: you require more players on the team to be able
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: to pull that off. But that's not the standard for
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I think when I was in high school, guys always
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: played both ways in high school. But again, going back
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: to what we were talking about earlier, bigger, faster, stronger,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: and so on, it's just harder to do even at
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: that level. All right, that's it for today. A regular
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: football preview including pointspread pixes on the podcast that we
• 1:32:09
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