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The Rita Panahi Show | 27 August · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, the Prime Minister heckled by farmers at
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Speaker 3: the National Bush Summit.
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Speaker 2: My panel will discuss that and the day's other top headlines.
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Speaker 3: The winner of Miss Universe Australia, Katie Worthington, will join
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Speaker 3: me at the desk.
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Speaker 2: And Josh Hammer will be here with the latest from
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Speaker 2: the US.
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Speaker 3: Including the person he nominates as the greatest living American.
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Speaker 2: Might surprise you. And Harry and Meghan have moved back
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Speaker 2: to the UK.
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Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield will have all the details on that. And
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Speaker 3: Lefty's Losing It features this meltdown from a woman who
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Speaker 3: could not bear to hear criticism of triple killer Lindsay Clancy.
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Speaker 2: They also, well, you failed to mention.
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Speaker 4: Well, they should be commended.
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Speaker 1: Be quiet, please.
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Speaker 2: I've had it with you.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: They should be commended.
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Speaker 1: They didn't kill their children. She's a murderer. I can't... OK.
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Speaker 3: But first, with all the focus on One Nation's immigration
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Speaker 3: policy this week, it's easy to forget the Albanese government's many,
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Speaker 3: many failures in this area. International students and visa holders
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Speaker 3: continue to take advantage of Australia's legal and bureaucratic loopholes.
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Speaker 3: Geoff Chambers writes in today's Australian, when Labor's final migration
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Speaker 3: package is released next month, expect more of a feather
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Speaker 3: duster than the big stick that One Nation and the
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Speaker 3: coalition are advocating. Put simply, Jim Chalmers can't afford for
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Speaker 3: immigration levels to fall off a cliff.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is.
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Speaker 3: Former President of the Victorian Liberal Party, Michael Kroger, and
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Speaker 3: News24 contributor Louise Roberts. Louise, Labor is hooked on the
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Speaker 3: economic activity generated by population growth, but it's only a
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Speaker 3: Band-Aid effect. It's not actually really lifting productivity or lifting
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Speaker 3: living standards.
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Speaker 1: No, absolutely.
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Speaker 5: It's doing the opposite, isn't it? We know our productivity
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Speaker 5: has really fallen off a cliff, but they like to
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Speaker 5: say we'll be tough on immigration, but not too tough
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Speaker 5: because we need it for the economy. But what the
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Speaker 5: electorate is saying is we want the crackdown. We don't
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Speaker 5: want the feather duster. We want the sledgehammer on it
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Speaker 5: because our living standards are going down and we don't
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Speaker 5: have the infrastructure to support this unmitigated amount of people
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Speaker 5: coming into the country, especially the unskilled migrants. And we
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Speaker 5: don't want to conflate it with people being uncaring and
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Speaker 5: not being, you know, generous towards people who perhaps need
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Speaker 5: to come to Australia. It's more about calibrating our migration
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Speaker 5: so it actually fits with our society and we're not
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Speaker 5: being punished for opening our arms to the rest of
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Speaker 5: the world.
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Speaker 3: Michael, as well as the economic reasons, there are, of course,
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Speaker 3: all sorts of political reasons for Labor's migration plan.
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Speaker 2: And Jeff Chambers wrote about that today.
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Speaker 3: He said Labor strategists don't want to turn off the
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Speaker 3: party's left base. They don't want to upset left-wing activists, naturally.
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Speaker 3: They don't want to alienate all those migrant communities who
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Speaker 3: have voted strongly for Labor at the past two federal elections.
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Speaker 3: How much of their migration strategy is about politics more
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Speaker 3: so than the economy?
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Speaker 6: It's about both, but internally it's about politics, Rita, because
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Speaker 6: the left of the Labor Party are a big immigration
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Speaker 6: faction of the ALP, and if you say a majority
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Speaker 6: of migrants vote for the ALP, And if Labor started
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Speaker 6: slashing migration to any significant degree, that would lose some
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Speaker 6: votes amongst their migrant voting communities. And they don't want
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Speaker 6: to do that. So as normal with Labor, everything is
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Speaker 6: about the politics. But the electorate have worked out that
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Speaker 6: mass migration is not serving the country well. When you
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Speaker 6: bring in more than a million immigrants in the last
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Speaker 6: few years and we're not building anywhere near the number
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Speaker 6: of homes necessary to house them, that puts massive pressure
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Speaker 6: on the housing market and sends rents through the roof.
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Speaker 6: And that's why the electorate are very opposed to what
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Speaker 6: Labor have been doing.
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Speaker 3: Now, earlier today, the Prime Minister was grilled about the
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Speaker 3: government's net zero strategy, the push for renewables at the
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Speaker 3: National Bush.
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Speaker 2: Summit in Dubbo.
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Speaker 3: Concerns were raised about one property which has been sandwiched
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Speaker 3: on three sides.
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Speaker 2: By a solar farm. Let's have a listen to the
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Speaker 2: PM's response.
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Speaker 5: What message do you have for people here whose lives
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Speaker 5: and livelihoods are being upended and they can't understand why?
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Speaker 6: That I get it.
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Speaker 4: We need to do.
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Speaker 3: Louise, he doesn't get it, does he? And the audience
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Speaker 3: there know he doesn't get it. He's not going to
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Speaker 3: be fooling them by showing up to the Bush summit
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Speaker 3: and pretending to understand their concerns.
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Speaker 5: I think what happened... at the Bush summit was he
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Speaker 5: got a very strong whiff of exactly how the people
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Speaker 5: in the regions feel about him at the moment. And
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Speaker 5: that one example that Gemma brought up of the woman
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Speaker 5: whose home has been sandwiched by solar panels, that would
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Speaker 5: never happen in the city. This is what makes people
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Speaker 5: in the region so angry that that wouldn't be inflicted
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Speaker 5: on someone in the inner west or, you know, God forsaken,
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Speaker 5: you know, the Prime Minister's electorate itself. It's always shoved
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Speaker 5: out to the country because they just have to cop it.
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Speaker 5: They have to put up with the transmission lines. They
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Speaker 5: have to put up with the huge wind farm, the
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Speaker 5: solar farms, everything else because they're out in the regions
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Speaker 5: and therefore, you know, they don't matter as much as
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Speaker 5: the inner city lefty voters. And it was really fascinating
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Speaker 5: to watch his face when it was almost like he
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Speaker 5: was on stage as a stand-up comedian and he was
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Speaker 5: getting a raucous amount of laughter from people. But, of course,
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Speaker 5: that's just the tip of the iceberg. People are very
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Speaker 5: angry with him. in the regions, and that's why One
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Speaker 5: Nation is capitalising. Yes, he was on stage answering the questions, but,
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Speaker 5: you know, he should walk away from that and think,
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Speaker 5: I've got a lot of work to do to win
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Speaker 5: these people back.
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Speaker 2: Well, is he going to do that work, Michael?
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Speaker 3: The regions are understandably furious about the impact of these
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Speaker 3: renewable projects, but is anyone in Labor listening to those concerns?
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Speaker 7: No, not really, Rita.
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Speaker 6: Labor's business model is this. just keep on going with
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Speaker 6: what we're doing with our sort of hard left policies.
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Speaker 6: And anytime we get close to an election in a
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Speaker 6: cost of living crisis that we're in, just offer billions
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Speaker 6: and billions and billions of dollars of free money to
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Speaker 6: people and that'll ensure our re-election. And that's the lesson
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Speaker 6: of the 25 election. But what's the reality? The reality
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Speaker 6: is he goes to a bush summit and gets heckled,
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Speaker 6: not once, but on several occasions. He went to the
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Speaker 6: business council the other night and got a very cold reception.
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Speaker 6: Just imagine what if he went to the Property Council
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Speaker 6: of Australia, the Real Estate Institute, any Jewish community organisation
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Speaker 6: or a small business organisation. He wouldn't be let through
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Speaker 6: the door. So his stocks are declining and declining rapidly
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Speaker 6: because this guy has no idea how to run the
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Speaker 6: economy and he's just ruining our nation, quite frankly, Rita.
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Speaker 2: That is an excellent point. The anger there is not
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Speaker 2: just in the regions.
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Speaker 3: You've got the big end of town, big businesses are upset,
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Speaker 3: small businesses have been upset for a long time.
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Speaker 2: The property sector is up in arms.
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Speaker 3: And you've got to wonder exactly who was that budget
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Speaker 3: serving because that budget has just caused such destruction in
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Speaker 3: so many industries and self-managed super funds.
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Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about that.
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Speaker 3: I think we're going to find out a lot more
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Speaker 3: about the unintended consequences.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, Michael.
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Speaker 6: No, I was just going to say it's almost $ 100
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Speaker 6: billion now wiped off the value of the banks in
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Speaker 6: the last month as it's become known to the public
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Speaker 6: that mortgage loan applications are down. So bank activity is down.
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Speaker 6: So $ 100 billion has gone off the value of the banks.
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Speaker 6: If you've got Commonwealth Bank, ANZ, NAB, West Bank, there's
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Speaker 6: $ 100 billion gone and a trillion dollars has been cut
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Speaker 6: off the value of properties. Real estate agents are not
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Speaker 6: selling any property. Conveyancing businesses are doing badly, values, etc.,
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Speaker 6: They have no idea what the damage they've wreaked on
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Speaker 6: the property industry and they'll have to reverse these changes
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Speaker 6: because it's killing the country.
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Speaker 3: You hope so because they've gone from denying that it's
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Speaker 3: having any impact, that it's driving prices down, to now saying, well, no,
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Speaker 3: it is happening but that's a good thing, that's what
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Speaker 3: we wanted to make housing more affordable, despite the fact
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Speaker 3: that applications for first-home buyers are down.
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Speaker 2: So first-home buyers... are also.
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Speaker 3: Reluctant to enter this market because who wants to enter
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Speaker 3: a market.
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Speaker 2: That is falling?
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Speaker 3: No-one wants to borrow an enormous amount to invest in
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Speaker 3: an asset that may be worth less next year.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just.
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Speaker 3: It's what happens when you have economically illiterate people in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: This happens.
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Speaker 3: Now, a shocking story of senseless violence in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: A 10-year-old boy, a 10-year-old cancer sufferer, was.
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Speaker 3: allegedly punched to the head and then when his mother
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Speaker 3: went to his defence, she was repeatedly stabbed, allegedly.
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Speaker 8: This is the man accused of punching a boy who
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Speaker 8: has brain cancer.
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Speaker 1: Just absolutely disgusted.
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Speaker 8: The 10-year-old travelled from Phillip Island to get treatment in
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Speaker 8: Melbourne when he was allegedly struck in the head outside
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Speaker 8: Victoria Police Headquarters.
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Speaker 1: They had just arrived in Melbourne, they were going to
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Speaker 1: their hotel.
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Speaker 8: His 46-year-old mother stepped in to protect her son. That's
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Speaker 8: when she was allegedly placed in a headlock and stabbed
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Speaker 8: four times with scissors. She's now in hospital with a
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Speaker 8: fractured leg.
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Speaker 1: She is really struggling at the moment. She can't be
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Speaker 1: with her son.
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Speaker 9: It's traumatic enough fighting cancer.
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Speaker 8: Her boy also undergoing MRI scans.
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Speaker 6: They're now looking to see if it's caused any extra damage,
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Speaker 6: if there's any more inflammation around where the tumour is.
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Speaker 8: A number of Good Samaritans, including bodybuilder Brian Bradley, swooped
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Speaker 8: in to restrain the suspect.
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Speaker 3: Now, a 27-year-old Jerry Sowood has been charged in the
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Speaker 3: Melbourne Magistrates Court yesterday. He told the magistrate, I punched
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Speaker 3: the kid in the head. I took the scissors and
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Speaker 3: I stabbed the woman in the head. He continued, no
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Speaker 3: need to hide. it, at least they're both still breathing,
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Speaker 3: you know, so I kept my humanity.
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Speaker 2: They might be somewhat traumatised.
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Speaker 3: Michael, that poor child suffering brain cancer in the city
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Speaker 3: to get treatment is And now he doesn't even have
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Speaker 3: his mother by his side because she's in hospital injured herself.
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Speaker 6: I think people in Victoria are speechless, shocked, but in
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Speaker 6: one sense not surprised. Victoria is the crime capital of Australia.
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Speaker 6: We've had endless fire bombings, nightclubs, tobacco shops, et cetera.
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Speaker 6: We had gangs in the western suburbs creating havoc, mayhem
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Speaker 6: in shopping centres. We have incidents like this in the city,
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Speaker 6: the Melbourne CBD is not safe. We've got a crime
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Speaker 6: problem in Victoria and it's all due to the weakness
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Speaker 6: of the Labor government. Again, what you've got is the
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Speaker 6: left of the Labor Party, as with immigration, as with taxation,
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Speaker 6: as with crime. They are very left-wing on all of
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Speaker 6: these issues and here are the consequences, very weak on corruption.
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Speaker 6: So you've got the allegations against the CFMEU, government spending,
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Speaker 6: So this is the, and this is what will come
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Speaker 6: to America, by the way, if they elect all these
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Speaker 6: left-wing nutters in the Democratic Party over there who want
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Speaker 6: to turn Washington and America into some of the worst
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Speaker 6: states and capitals in America, Rita.
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Speaker 3: Well, the boy's uncle you saw in that clip, his
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Speaker 3: name's Kirk Holt, he told the Herald Sun, the state
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Speaker 3: had failed Victorians, it.
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Speaker 2: Has failed my family.
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Speaker 3: Louise, he also said, what happened to my sister and
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Speaker 3: my nephews is disgusting. It should never have happened. It's
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Speaker 3: hard to argue with that. But I'm going to bring
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Speaker 3: another case to your attention, again from Victoria. This is
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Speaker 3: the first teenager sentenced under Victoria's adult time for violent
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Speaker 3: crime laws, supposed to be adult crime, adult time. That's
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Speaker 3: what we were sold. But this perpetrator has walked free
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Speaker 3: from court without spending a single day behind bars. This
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Speaker 3: is despite the 16-year-old girl holding a knife to the
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Speaker 3: throat of a taxi driver during a terrifying carjacking earlier
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Speaker 3: this year.
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Speaker 2: Louise, so much for adult crime, adult time.
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Speaker 3: This girl was handed an 18-month youth supervision order.
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Speaker 2: We can't identify her. How is this a deterrence?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not.
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Speaker 5: It's a slogan, isn't it? I mean, the criminals are
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Speaker 5: laughing their socks off at the Labor government and the ineptitude.
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Speaker 5: And look, the Premier, I would say, has to answer
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Speaker 5: for this. I mean, I know the police force are
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Speaker 5: feeling disillusioned as well. But to think that you'd have
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Speaker 5: some consolation that these crimes will happen and the people
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Speaker 5: will be punished as adults. But clearly, you know, it's
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Speaker 5: OK for a teenager to hold a knife to the
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Speaker 5: throat of a cab driver who thought he was going
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Speaker 5: to die and have his throat slit while he's trying
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Speaker 5: to give them a ride somewhere. And, you know, absolutely
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Speaker 5: no consequences for it. I mean, just come up with
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Speaker 5: another slogan maybe that actually makes people in Victoria feel safe.
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Speaker 5: They can walk the streets or go about their business
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Speaker 5: and not be attacked by these crazed teenagers who think.
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Speaker 10: Hey, I can do this and I'll get away with it.
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Speaker 5: Who's going to come after me?
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Speaker 7: Nobody.
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Speaker 3: Well, Michael, Queensland instituted an adult crime, adult time policy,
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Speaker 3: and it seems to be working there because it is
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Speaker 3: across the board. There are so many offences that are
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Speaker 3: covered by these laws. In Victoria, it was pretty narrow,
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Speaker 3: and it seems even when it is applied.
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Speaker 2: The results are.
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Speaker 3: Really no different to what we've seen in recent years.
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Speaker 3: And the criminals do not have a fear of the
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Speaker 3: criminal justice system. That is a fundamental problem in this state.
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Speaker 6: They don't fear it. And here, as we know, bail
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Speaker 6: is easy to get and multiple crimes have been committed
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Speaker 6: in this state by people on bail who then get
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Speaker 6: bail again. Again, the left-wing Labor government, this is what
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Speaker 6: you get. I mean, that poor taxi driver is probably
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Speaker 6: traumatised for life, as are his family and children, as
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Speaker 6: to what happened to him. He would fear going to work.
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Speaker 6: And what, there's no jail time for a person that
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Speaker 6: holds a knife to the throat of a taxi driver?
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Speaker 6: That should be mandatory jail. To be let out and
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Speaker 6: be given this community order... For 18 months, good for
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Speaker 6: the sake, as you say, that's not a deterrent and
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Speaker 6: that's why crime is so bad in this state. No-one
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Speaker 6: fears the law much in Victoria under this government, Rita.
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Speaker 3: No, we just hear about manifestly inadequate sentences daily.
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Speaker 2: It's not isolated.
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Speaker 3: I could literally spend the show every day talking about
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Speaker 3: the criminal justice system in this state.
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Speaker 2: Louise Roberts, Michael Kroger, thank you so much for your
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Speaker 2: time tonight.
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Speaker 7: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Now the Miss Universe Australia final took place at Crown's
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Speaker 3: Palladium Ballroom in Melbourne last night and it was another
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Speaker 3: win for Queensland with 28-year-old Brisbane radiographer Katie Worthington crowned
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Speaker 3: the winner and I'm pleased to say she joins me
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Speaker 3: now in the News 24 studios. Katie, how does it
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Speaker 3: feel being Miss Australia?
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Speaker 2: You're going to be heading to Puerto Rico shortly to
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Speaker 2: represent the country. What does it feel like?
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Speaker 11: It feels like something out of a dream, honestly. I
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Speaker 11: think you've got a form of an idea when you
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Speaker 11: enter and it's one in 28 at this point chance.
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Speaker 3: Started off one in 300 or something, isn't it? But
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Speaker 3: last night the 28 finalists were there. I've got to say,
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Speaker 3: early on everyone said you're the front runner, you are
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Speaker 3: going to win it and there's a lot of pressure
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Speaker 3: with that but you did win it. Now there was
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Speaker 3: an extraordinary moment last night. You got What is a
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Speaker 3: horror question in the pageant world?
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Speaker 2: Deeply political, polarising, fraught question.
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Speaker 3: And it was about men identifying as women in women's sport.
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Speaker 3: You handle it incredibly well. I'm going to play a
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Speaker 3: little bit off it. It doesn't capture the crowd reaction,
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Speaker 3: but I can tell you the crowd were cheering like
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Speaker 3: I've never heard before in a pageant.
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Speaker 9: Your question is, transgender women competing across a range of
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Speaker 9: traditional women's sports is making headlines around the world. Do
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Speaker 9: you believe banning biological males from women's sport is common
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Speaker 9: sense or discrimination and why?
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Speaker 1: That is a very good question.
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Speaker 11: Look, coming from a medical background, I'm sure we can
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Speaker 11: all agree, and this is definitely my view, is that
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Speaker 11: human biology does not lie.
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Speaker 3: Now, I was in the room last night and Channel 7,
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Speaker 3: who broadcast the event, their cameras did not capture the
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Speaker 3: crowd reaction. I think they were focused on what was
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Speaker 3: happening on stage. There were massive cheers and applause as
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Speaker 3: you answered that question. And you went on to say
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Speaker 3: you believe in fairness for female athletes, but you want
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Speaker 3: to include everybody and you hope there is a transgender category.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So everybody can compete. Tell me about how you felt
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Speaker 2: when you got that question and are you expecting a
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Speaker 2: backlash from activists who are going to look for something
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Speaker 2: to be offended by?
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Speaker 11: I think it's definitely a curly question. They probably could
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Speaker 11: have just asked me about world peace and I would
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Speaker 11: have been happier.
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Speaker 2: Most of them got those questions that you got that.
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Speaker 11: But look, I think it's really probably quite important and
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Speaker 11: it's very current and it's important we have the conversation
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Speaker 11: because at the end of the day we're all entitled
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Speaker 11: to our opinions and we don't have to agree. Obviously,
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Speaker 11: I had mine, I shared mine, I stand by it.
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Speaker 11: But I do also believe that safety and fairness are
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Speaker 11: the utmost importance, especially in any sport, but elite level sport,
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Speaker 11: they work so hard to get there.
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Speaker 3: Now, you've personally overcome health challenges and injuries. You're a
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Speaker 3: picture of health now, but tell me a little bit
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Speaker 3: about that. And what's your response to those who say
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Speaker 3: these pageants, whether it's Miss Universe or other pageants, there
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Speaker 3: are outdated, they objectify women.
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Speaker 2: What are your feelings towards that?
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Speaker 11: With regard to the pageant question first, I suppose, again,
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Speaker 11: they're right to have the views and I suppose maybe
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Speaker 11: even as a younger self, me looking up to this,
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Speaker 11: it wasn't something that I felt maybe even aligned with
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Speaker 11: where I was a few years ago. I'm so glad
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Speaker 11: I entered. I think that if anybody is unsure or
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Speaker 11: uncertain sitting on the fence... It offers so much more
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Speaker 11: than just obviously the crown. Confidence I've built even in
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Speaker 11: the last two months, especially to where I was six
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Speaker 11: months ago, it's just unprecedented.
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Speaker 2: So you'd recommend other young women? Absolutely, yeah. Doing this
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Speaker 2: if they're thinking about it. Well, stay strong, Katie.
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Speaker 3: Do not back down when the activists come for you
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Speaker 3: if they come for you because they're always looking for
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Speaker 3: something to be aggrieved about.
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Speaker 2: And you gave the most.
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Speaker 3: Really compassionate, thoughtful response, but you're going to cop a
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Speaker 3: little bit of heat.
19:12
Speaker 2: Are you ready for that?
19:13
Speaker 11: I think I stand by anything I'm going to say
19:16
Speaker 11: in public. I think that we all are right to
19:18
Speaker 11: have our opinions and I'm ready.
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Speaker 2: Wonderful. Miss Universe Australia, thank you so much for joining me.
19:24
Speaker 11: Thank you for having me.
19:26
Speaker 3: Still to come, lefties losing it past the latest from
19:29
Speaker 3: the US, including the person Josh Hammer nominates as the
19:33
Speaker 3: greatest living American.
19:35
Speaker 2: Might surprise you. He joins me next.
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Speaker 3: You're watching The Rita Panahy Show and it's time for
19:49
Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It.
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Speaker 1: It.
19:50
Speaker 2: And this is a doozy, folks.
19:52
Speaker 3: Watch Democrat strategist and former Obama adviser Laurie Watkins absolutely
19:58
Speaker 3: lose her mind during a panel discussion about triple killer
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Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy.
20:03
Speaker 2: Who leftist women have decided is a hero.
20:08
Speaker 3: Watch here as she does some deep breathing while Thomas
20:12
Speaker 3: Corbett Dillon is speaking and then she unleashes.
20:16
Speaker 4: They say that Lindsay was in psychosis. I think these
20:18
Speaker 4: women are suffering from psychosis. They've been watching too many
20:22
Speaker 4: true crime Netflix dramas. You know, this was an incredibly
20:26
Speaker 4: privileged woman, incredibly wealthy. She had a nanny and she's
20:30
Speaker 4: still complaining that she needed help. She could not have
20:32
Speaker 4: got more help from the system that she already had received.
20:35
Speaker 4: This is a murderer who strangled her children one by one.
20:39
Speaker 4: One of the boys ran away and she chased him
20:41
Speaker 4: down and killed him.
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Speaker 1: Laurie Watkins.
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Speaker 10: What you just said was absolutely disgusting.
20:46
Speaker 1: Thank you.
20:46
Speaker 10: You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Speaker 13: Thank you.
20:48
Speaker 10: And you can hear that he's not.
20:49
Speaker 4: This is true.
20:51
Speaker 2: You clearly don't care.
20:52
Speaker 10: So pipe down.
20:53
Speaker 4: And by the way, men watching this, if you have
20:55
Speaker 4: a woman sat next to you on the sofa who
20:57
Speaker 4: is defending this murderer, you've got to think deeply about this.
21:01
Speaker 1: I've seen weddings.
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Speaker 10: I know many women that this has happened to.
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Speaker 1: No, they did not.
21:05
Speaker 10: Kill their children, but they also, what you failed to mention.
21:08
Speaker 2: Be quiet, please. I've had it with you.
21:11
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
21:12
Speaker 4: And your sexism and misogyny.
21:15
Speaker 1: She's a murderer.
21:16
Speaker 2: I can't. She is a murderer. You could get that
21:21
Speaker 2: worked up, defending a murderer. And he's 100% right.
21:24
Speaker 3: If you have a woman in your life defending, rationalising
21:29
Speaker 3: or minimising these crimes, run.
21:32
Speaker 2: Run and don't look back.
21:34
Speaker 3: Now, there is a lot of talk these days about
21:36
Speaker 3: the Republican base being fractured and Donald Trump losing support.
21:41
Speaker 3: But the polls tell a different story, and CNN's polling expert,
21:45
Speaker 3: Harry Enten, explains that.
21:48
Speaker 14: The president Republicans most admire is Donald Trump.
21:51
Speaker 1: This is a historic comparison.
21:53
Speaker 14: A majority of Republicans say, 53% say he is the
21:56
Speaker 14: Republican president they most admire. Ronald Reagan, who traditionally has
22:00
Speaker 14: won that much, Donald Trump nearly triples up on this.
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Speaker 1: Reagan at just 18%.
22:05
Speaker 14: And then Abraham Lincoln, who by most historic accounts is
22:08
Speaker 14: the greatest president of all time, But Republicans say that
22:12
Speaker 14: the president that they most admire by what is this?
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Speaker 1: This is six, seven times as many. Donald John Trump
22:18
Speaker 1: at 53 percent, easily crushing Abe Lincoln at 8 percent.
22:21
Speaker 3: Yep. All three are Republican presidents, great Republican presidents, and
22:26
Speaker 3: all three copped undue invective during their.
22:29
Speaker 2: Terms in office.
22:31
Speaker 3: Now, let's hear from actor and alleged comedian Walter Masterson.
22:36
Speaker 3: as he goes so woke that he sounds like a
22:39
Speaker 3: backward bigot, which actually is pretty on brand for woke wackos.
22:44
Speaker 2: You see, they can't answer simple questions like, what is
22:48
Speaker 2: a woman? What is a man? What is the difference
22:51
Speaker 2: between men and women?
22:53
Speaker 3: They can't answer those questions, so they end up sounding
22:56
Speaker 3: like they're simpleton.
22:57
Speaker 2: When we talk about.
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Speaker 1: Women in Afghanistan, what sex are we talking about?
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Speaker 13: We're talking about women in Afghanistan.
23:02
Speaker 1: What sex are we talking about?
23:04
Speaker 13: When we are talking about women, we're generally, you're talking
23:07
Speaker 13: about people.
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Speaker 2: Who are presenting as a woman.
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Speaker 1: No, no, what are you talking about?
23:09
Speaker 13: I'm talking about people that, a woman, okay, my definition,
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Speaker 13: what is it?
23:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: A woman is a biological state of being that is
23:15
Speaker 13: also socially experienced.
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Speaker 2: What biological state of being is that?
23:18
Speaker 13: A biological state of being that is also socially experienced.
23:22
Speaker 2: Distinguish them from males.
23:24
Speaker 1: What?
23:24
Speaker 10: Distinguish that from men.
23:26
Speaker 12: What?
23:26
Speaker 13: Okay, so.
23:27
Speaker 2: What's the difference between men and women?
23:29
Speaker 13: What's the difference between men and women? How you're presenting?
23:32
Speaker 1: Presenting.
23:33
Speaker 13: How you're presenting.
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Speaker 1: So a man can present feminine, and we call him
23:36
Speaker 1: a woman? Yeah, we do that a lot.
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Speaker 13: No, but you call them a woman, a feminine man.
23:41
Speaker 13: If I picked up a football and I threw it
23:43
Speaker 13: like this, you'd say I was girly. People would say, oh,
23:46
Speaker 13: he throws like a girl.
23:47
Speaker 3: Now, the WNBA still doesn't know what a woman is.
23:51
Speaker 3: They're causing their loss-making welfare league all sorts of issues
23:55
Speaker 3: by refusing to do what other sporting bodies, including the
23:58
Speaker 3: International Olympic Committee, have done by clearly defining that a
24:02
Speaker 3: woman is a female with XX chromosomes. But according to
24:07
Speaker 3: lefty hack Cara Swisher, it's men who are to blame
24:11
Speaker 3: for this mess.
24:12
Speaker 2: The problem with women's basketball is asshole straight men just
24:16
Speaker 2: can't just stop attacking these women.
24:20
Speaker 10: I think it's misogynist. I think it's racist for sure. Racist?
24:25
Speaker 2: How did she manage to inject race into this issue?
24:28
Speaker 2: Is she calling Enos Cantor freedom a racist? He's just
24:32
Speaker 2: a woman taking advantage of the WNBA rules.
24:35
Speaker 4: Article 13, Section 1 says if you identify as a woman,
24:39
Speaker 4: then you're allowed to play.
24:40
Speaker 10: So you are identifying as a woman tonight?
24:41
Speaker 1: I identify as a woman. Sure, yes. So I can play.
24:45
Speaker 3: And the other former NBA player, Royce White, also a
24:48
Speaker 3: former first-round draft pick, was nominated for the WNBA draft.
24:53
Speaker 2: He has a message for the world. He says Royce
24:56
Speaker 2: is gone. He's dead.
24:58
Speaker 3: He's now Roesha and he makes some excellent, or she
25:02
Speaker 3: makes some excellent points from everything on trans issues to
25:06
Speaker 3: Big Pharma and even the Lindsay Clancy case.
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Speaker 7: Royce kept me locked in a cage for 35 years
25:14
Speaker 7: and now that I'm free, now that I'm liberated, I'm
25:17
Speaker 7: going to live my best life. I'm going to be,
25:20
Speaker 7: I'm going to do me. I'm going to be the
25:22
Speaker 7: beautiful black queen I was meant to be. And none
25:25
Speaker 7: of you are going to rain on my parade. Because
25:28
Speaker 7: when you start to spew that hatred and that bigotry,
25:32
Speaker 7: and you start to tell me that I need to
25:36
Speaker 7: subject myself to the same big pharma, isn't it ironic?
25:41
Speaker 7: The same big pharma you say is responsible for the
25:45
Speaker 7: brutal murder of three children The strangulation of three small children,
25:52
Speaker 7: the same big pharma you say is ultimately responsible for that,
25:56
Speaker 7: for Lindsey Clancy, is the same big pharma you want
26:00
Speaker 7: me to subject myself to in order to solidify my transition. Well,
26:06
Speaker 7: Royce is a little bit smarter than that.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely brilliant. The whole video, you've got to watch it.
26:14
Speaker 2: Get on X, you're going to love it.
26:16
Speaker 3: Now let's end on a high note, the great Dolly Parton,
26:20
Speaker 3: a national treasure, an icon, a universally loved and admired celebrity.
26:25
Speaker 3: And part of her endless charm was she never lectured
26:29
Speaker 3: her fans. She never lectured the public about politics, about
26:32
Speaker 3: who to vote for, what to think. They sure tried
26:35
Speaker 3: to get her to say something political.
26:37
Speaker 1: They.
26:37
Speaker 3: tried very hard to get her to slam Donald Trump,
26:41
Speaker 3: but she wasn't having it. Here she is in 2018.
26:45
Speaker 3: Watch the ABC reporter try again and again to extract
26:49
Speaker 3: something anti-Trump from her, but she wasn't playing.
26:53
Speaker 7: We have a president of the United States who said
26:55
Speaker 7: those things on that bus.
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Speaker 15: I'm not addressing that. I do not get into that.
27:00
Speaker 15: Of course, I have my opinion about everybody and everything.
27:03
Speaker 15: But I learned a long time ago, keep your damn
27:06
Speaker 15: mouth shut if you want to stay in show business.
27:07
Speaker 2: I'm not in politics.
27:09
Speaker 15: I'm an entertainer.
27:10
Speaker 7: And yet you're also a role model.
27:12
Speaker 15: Yes, I am. That's why I don't talk about people.
27:16
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Newsweek senior editor at large, Josh Hammer. Josh,
27:20
Speaker 3: she was one of a kind. And like the late Queen,
27:24
Speaker 3: I don't know her politics. She may have been left-leaning.
27:28
Speaker 3: She may have been a conservative. I don't know, and
27:31
Speaker 3: I don't want to know because that was never her role.
27:35
Speaker 16: Rita, first of all, it's a tremendous loss, an absolutely
27:38
Speaker 16: tremendous loss for country music fans, which I know both
27:42
Speaker 16: you and I are. And it's also just a tremendous
27:45
Speaker 16: loss for Americans. I think America is a deeply divided
27:48
Speaker 16: society today, and there are shockingly few individuals left who
27:53
Speaker 16: cross the political spectrum and are just universally beloved figures.
27:58
Speaker 16: And Dolly Parton, frankly, was one of those last culturally
28:01
Speaker 16: unifying totems and figures and icons that we had left.
28:05
Speaker 16: And I didn't even know that she was sick, and
28:06
Speaker 16: it happened so quickly and suddenly and just terrible. And
28:10
Speaker 16: she leaves behind a legacy. That is not a political one,
28:14
Speaker 16: but is a beautiful one, even in ways that go
28:17
Speaker 16: well beyond her musical career, which speaks for itself. She,
28:22
Speaker 16: of course, had her book project, Dolly Parton's Imagination Library.
28:26
Speaker 16: She was a great giver to charity. She would buy
28:28
Speaker 16: all sorts of uniforms for bands, for high school, middle
28:33
Speaker 16: school bands, and especially black impoverished schools. So she did
28:37
Speaker 16: a lot there. And she was religious. She spoke openly
28:41
Speaker 16: about her religious journey. She grew up in the church.
28:43
Speaker 16: She drifted away. She went through a spiritual crisis, and
28:46
Speaker 16: she found her way back to the church. I believe
28:47
Speaker 16: she gave an interview towards the end of her life
28:49
Speaker 16: where she talked about how she would wake up at
28:51
Speaker 16: 4 to 5 a.m. every morning and begin every morning
28:54
Speaker 16: on her.
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Speaker 1: Knees in prayer.
28:56
Speaker 16: So, listen, I can hazard a guess as to what
28:59
Speaker 16: I think her politics are, but the point is, I
29:01
Speaker 16: don't know. And you know what I think about, Rita?
29:03
Speaker 16: I think about Michael Jordan's famous line. Michael Jordan was
29:07
Speaker 16: asked time and time again, much the same as Dolly
29:09
Speaker 16: Parton was in that very dumb interview. Michael Jordan famously
29:13
Speaker 16: said to the interviewer, you know what he said? He said,
29:16
Speaker 16: Republicans buy sneakers too, which is like, okay, guess what?
29:20
Speaker 16: I'm a basketball player. I'm trying to sell Air Jordans.
29:22
Speaker 16: I'm trying to sell Nike basketball shoes. I don't give
29:25
Speaker 16: a darn what your politics are. So it's a very
29:27
Speaker 16: old school mentality. It's a mentality that you don't really
29:30
Speaker 16: see anymore. I mean, nowadays we have Taylor Swift who's
29:33
Speaker 16: out there endorsing abortion and endorsing this and that and
29:37
Speaker 16: transgender and all these other left wing ideologies. And Dolly
29:40
Speaker 16: Parton was a throwback in every sense of the word throwback. Again,
29:43
Speaker 16: she was an American icon and may her memory be
29:45
Speaker 16: a blessing.
29:47
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
29:48
Speaker 3: And with her gone, we have one less great American,
29:51
Speaker 3: one less national treasure.
29:53
Speaker 2: There aren't too many left.
29:55
Speaker 3: You argue that the greatest living American today is Justice
30:00
Speaker 3: Clarence Thomas.
30:01
Speaker 2: Tell me why you hold that view.
30:04
Speaker 16: So I've been saying this for, gosh, I mean, probably
30:07
Speaker 16: close to my entire adult lifetime, Rita. Just this year,
30:10
Speaker 16: Clarence Thomas became the second longest serving justice in the
30:13
Speaker 16: history of the U.S.
30:14
Speaker 1: Supreme Court.
30:14
Speaker 16: He will be 35 years on the bench this October
30:17
Speaker 16: in just about two months' time. This is a man,
30:21
Speaker 16: it's hard to know where to start, frankly, when it
30:22
Speaker 16: comes to Clarence Thomas. He grew up in the most
30:24
Speaker 16: abject poverty imaginable. I mean, he has stories of growing
30:30
Speaker 16: up carrying urine downstairs in a chamber pot because it
30:34
Speaker 16: was not even plumbing in the household. And he has
30:36
Speaker 16: a story where one time he tripped on the stairs.
30:38
Speaker 16: And there was stale urine drenched over him in his home.
30:41
Speaker 16: Not exactly the story that you expect of a man
30:43
Speaker 16: who would live to become the second longest serving justice
30:45
Speaker 16: in the history of the court. He went through a
30:47
Speaker 16: radical phase in high school and in university. He actually
30:50
Speaker 16: was involved briefly with the Black Panthers and Malcolm X
30:53
Speaker 16: before coming to his senses. And he has now defined
30:57
Speaker 16: an entire generation or more of jurists on the Supreme Court.
31:01
Speaker 16: And Clarence Thomas joined the court in 1991. his conservative
31:04
Speaker 16: originalist constitutionalist views were a decisive minority. He, Anthony Scalia,
31:09
Speaker 16: William Rehnquist, They were writing dissent after dissent after dissent.
31:13
Speaker 16: Now you fast forward three and a half decades.
31:15
Speaker 1: Is the court perfect?
31:16
Speaker 17: No.
31:16
Speaker 16: But now, more importantly, Clarence Thomas finds himself way more
31:19
Speaker 16: often in the majority, not in the dissent. And that's
31:23
Speaker 16: because his views have attracted followers of all stripes. Elena Kagan,
31:27
Speaker 16: who was a Barack Obama nominee and liberal, famously said
31:30
Speaker 16: at her Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, quote, we're all
31:33
Speaker 16: originalists now. So Clarence Thomas has won the long game
31:36
Speaker 16: and he's won the long game now. through the sheer
31:38
Speaker 16: intellectual persuasiveness of his arguments, and also just the genuine
31:42
Speaker 16: affability and winsomeness of his personality. He is the most
31:45
Speaker 16: beloved person of the court by everyone from the clerks
31:48
Speaker 16: to the actual janitors and staff themselves. He is just
31:51
Speaker 16: an American icon in every sense. You can be an
31:53
Speaker 16: icon much like the late Dolly Parton. Hopefully we get
31:56
Speaker 16: a lot more of Clarence Thomas in the.
31:57
Speaker 1: Years to come.
31:58
Speaker 3: Now, Josh, Senator Ted Cruz has written a book on
32:01
Speaker 3: Clarence Thomas, and I want to play you a clip
32:04
Speaker 3: of a recent chat between the two men.
32:07
Speaker 17: Here's the way you're supposed to think. Again, here's your
32:10
Speaker 17: skin color. There's this kind of deterministic view that you're
32:14
Speaker 17: supposed to think this because we say so. And I,
32:18
Speaker 17: of course, declined that invitation. And so now that means
32:22
Speaker 17: it's something that I'm a walking contradiction because I've deviated
32:27
Speaker 17: from their perception of what I should think.
32:30
Speaker 3: Josh, you seem to compare this pressure to conform, to
32:34
Speaker 3: act like a captured slave as akin to segregation, intellectual segregation.
32:41
Speaker 2: It was a fascinating chat.
32:43
Speaker 3: And I know you've talked to Senator Ted Cruz.
32:46
Speaker 2: What did you learn from that interview?
32:50
Speaker 16: So Clarence Thomas famously referred to what happened at his
32:54
Speaker 16: Supreme Court confirmation hearing. He was confirmed to Rita in 1991.
32:58
Speaker 16: And the Democrats tried out a witness by the name
33:00
Speaker 16: of Anita Hill, a black woman who falsely accused Clarence
33:03
Speaker 16: Thomas and making sexual advances in the workplace. And Clarence Thomas,
33:07
Speaker 16: after surviving that scare, famously referred to it, referred to
33:10
Speaker 16: it actually in his confirmation hearing as an attempt at
33:14
Speaker 16: a high-tech lynching, which is pretty charged language for a
33:17
Speaker 16: man who grew up in the Jim Crow South, which
33:20
Speaker 16: he did in Georgia in the 1940s, 1950s, et cetera.
33:23
Speaker 16: He knows a thing or two, unfortunately, tragically. about what
33:26
Speaker 16: a lynching means in the old-fashioned sense of the term.
33:29
Speaker 16: But this is a man who has been... He's been
33:32
Speaker 16: called every slur under the bus. He's been called an
33:34
Speaker 16: Uncle Tom, I mean, more times than anyone can possibly count.
33:38
Speaker 16: And this is because The left operates according to this
33:41
Speaker 16: woke mentality, this intersectional identity policy mentality, whereby if you
33:46
Speaker 16: fit a certain description, they expect you to think and
33:49
Speaker 16: act and talk a certain way. But Clarence Thomas does
33:52
Speaker 16: not play that game. He never has. And that's because
33:55
Speaker 16: he was taught a very different way of approaching the world.
33:59
Speaker 16: He was very much a student of his grandfather. His
34:01
Speaker 16: autobiography in 2008 was titled My Grandfather's Son. His grandfather
34:04
Speaker 16: basically said, that you will be an independent thinker and
34:06
Speaker 16: you will think for yourself and you will work hard
34:09
Speaker 16: and you will succeed. And that's all he's done in
34:11
Speaker 16: every stage of his life. Again, he is an absolute
34:13
Speaker 16: inspiration reader. And I think what Senator Cruz is trying
34:16
Speaker 16: to do with this new book and going further is
34:18
Speaker 16: he's trying to put out there a prospective role model
34:21
Speaker 16: for a young generation, Zoomers, Gen Z. You probably have
34:24
Speaker 16: never heard the story. They're in search of a role model. Frankly,
34:27
Speaker 16: they could do, they could do, they really could not
34:30
Speaker 16: do any better, frankly, than Clarence Thomas looking for exactly
34:32
Speaker 16: that kind of role model.
34:33
Speaker 6: Thank you.
34:35
Speaker 3: Now, Josh, tell me about the FBI shutting down a
34:38
Speaker 3: Beijing linked spy operation. It was targeting NASA, the Federal Reserve,
34:43
Speaker 3: other areas.
34:44
Speaker 1: U.S.
34:45
Speaker 3: Officials say they have disrupted the hacking operation that was
34:49
Speaker 3: hiding within normal Internet traffic to avoid detection.
34:55
Speaker 16: Yeah, so unfortunately, this has to be the least surprising
34:57
Speaker 16: story of the year, right? I mean, China engaged in
35:00
Speaker 16: cyber espionage all throughout the world, especially against their geopolitical foes,
35:04
Speaker 16: of which the United States is number one. They've been
35:07
Speaker 16: doing this sort of thing for years and years and years.
35:10
Speaker 16: By the way, not just cyber espionage. They infamously flew
35:12
Speaker 16: a literal spy balloon from Alaska to off the coast
35:16
Speaker 16: of South Carolina across the entire continent in 2023. I mean, TikTok,
35:21
Speaker 16: until its American subsidiary was sold, was essentially just one
35:25
Speaker 16: giant cyber espionage operation, just gobbling up all sorts of
35:29
Speaker 16: data of everyone who would put into the algorithm their
35:32
Speaker 16: preferences and their password and their login. So this current
35:36
Speaker 16: operation is you have what appears to be a small
35:39
Speaker 16: company based in the city of Nanjing, China, with close
35:42
Speaker 16: ties to the Communist Party apparatus in Beijing that seems
35:47
Speaker 16: to be at the nexus of hacking into... The Internet infrastructure,
35:52
Speaker 16: the logins, the passwords, the sensitive information, not just of
35:56
Speaker 16: government agencies, although this does include the Federal Reserve and lots, frankly,
36:01
Speaker 16: of other American federal government agencies, but also a lot
36:03
Speaker 16: of private sector corporations, institutions as well. Again, this is
36:07
Speaker 16: China just acting in deliberately provocative fashion because China genuinely
36:13
Speaker 16: believes that this 21st century will not be an American century,
36:16
Speaker 16: that it will be a Chinese century. I mean, let's
36:19
Speaker 16: make no mistake. We are in a great power competition
36:22
Speaker 16: for who will ultimately write the history books as to
36:25
Speaker 16: what the century will be. The 20th century was an
36:28
Speaker 16: American century. America won both world wars. We won the
36:30
Speaker 16: Cold War and Soviet 20th century. Every way you want
36:33
Speaker 16: to write it was the American century. The great unwritten
36:36
Speaker 16: question of this century is, will it be an American century,
36:39
Speaker 16: a Chinese century, or suppose something else? But I'd be
36:42
Speaker 16: willing to guess probably going to be one of those
36:44
Speaker 16: two answers. I know which one I want it to be, Rita.
36:47
Speaker 16: I guess we'll find out what happens.
36:50
Speaker 3: Now, before you go, I've got to ask you about
36:52
Speaker 3: this crazy story from Florida. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
36:57
Speaker 3: has lodged a detainer against a Cuban woman, Melisa Campos Sanchez,
37:03
Speaker 3: who is accused of pouring hot wax on her children
37:06
Speaker 3: and intentionally setting a fire inside her Miami home.
37:11
Speaker 2: Well, she filmed it all.
37:12
Speaker 3: And according to the Department of Homeland Security, she is
37:17
Speaker 3: going to be deported. What is going on with this
37:21
Speaker 3: case and what is going on with women filming themselves
37:24
Speaker 3: having these meltdowns and posting it on social media?
37:30
Speaker 16: Well, it's not just women, right? So it actually, it
37:32
Speaker 16: was also here in the South Florida, Miami area. It
37:35
Speaker 16: was Paris Hilton, I think it was two or three
37:37
Speaker 16: weeks ago, who filmed himself trying to harm himself in
37:40
Speaker 16: what appeared to be an attempt potentially at suicide or
37:43
Speaker 16: at least some sort of self-harm. So it might be
37:46
Speaker 16: a South Florida thing, actually. I mean, between this video
37:48
Speaker 16: and between Paris Health and so on, I'm not really
37:50
Speaker 16: sure what's going on here with the water here in
37:53
Speaker 16: South Florida. Look, but on a more serious note, this
37:57
Speaker 16: is obviously horrific. And this is part of a broader
38:00
Speaker 16: theme of people not just feeling themselves, but also just
38:03
Speaker 16: rampant mental illness, rampant mental illness. that people simply just
38:07
Speaker 16: don't get the help they need. I'm not trying to
38:09
Speaker 16: say this in a harsh way. I'm not trying to
38:11
Speaker 16: put a stigma on it. I'm trying to say in
38:13
Speaker 16: a way that suggests that our society and our political
38:17
Speaker 16: leadership are fundamentally failing a lot of the American people. Personally,
38:21
Speaker 16: in my telling of the story, Rita, a lot of
38:23
Speaker 16: these problems go back to the liberalization of the institutionalization
38:29
Speaker 16: laws of the 1960s. Back before the 1960s, it was
38:33
Speaker 16: a lot easier to get someone involuntarily committed to a
38:36
Speaker 16: mental war and asylum if you had a genuine mental illness.
38:39
Speaker 16: Starting in the 60s, with all the liberalization of the
38:41
Speaker 16: particularly fraught decade, it became much, much harder to do that.
38:45
Speaker 16: And we're still trying to solve the problem today. The
38:47
Speaker 16: Trump administration, by the way, actually has issued some excellent
38:49
Speaker 16: executive orders on this exact note, trying to make it
38:52
Speaker 16: a little easier on the margins to get people involuntarily
38:55
Speaker 16: committed if they have severe mental illness again It's a major,
38:57
Speaker 16: major step in the right direction. But unfortunately, as this
38:59
Speaker 16: crazy video shows, we have a long, long ways to go.
39:03
Speaker 16: But for now, I guess it's good solace that she
39:05
Speaker 16: will get her butt deported back to Cuba.
39:08
Speaker 2: Josh Hammer, thank you for your time.
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Speaker 10: Thank you, Rita. Appreciate it.
39:12
Speaker 2: Still to come, Harry and Meghan are back in the UK.
39:16
Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield will have all the details. Welcome back.
39:28
Speaker 3: Joining me now is host of The Kin Schofield Unfiltered podcast. Kinsey,
39:32
Speaker 3: let's talk Dolly. The outpouring of love has been enormous.
39:37
Speaker 3: Right now she has four of the top five songs
39:40
Speaker 3: on Apple Music. The only non-Dolly song there is Ella
39:44
Speaker 3: Langley's Choose in Texas and Ella has paid tribute to
39:48
Speaker 3: Dolly this week. as her inspiration and tributes have come
39:52
Speaker 3: in from around the world, including the royal family with
39:56
Speaker 3: 9 to 5 played outside Buckingham Palace. Kinsey, there are
40:11
Speaker 3: plans for a funeral. Is it going to be a
40:15
Speaker 3: massive funeral for the public?
40:17
Speaker 2: What details do we have yet?
40:20
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, after this enormous, larger-than-life career, she apparently wanted
40:24
Speaker 12: something very small and private, immediate family in Nashville. She'll
40:28
Speaker 12: reportedly be buried beside Carl Dean, her husband of nearly
40:32
Speaker 12: 60 years. And instead of flowers, her team's asking people
40:36
Speaker 12: to donate to Dolly's Imagination Library. I think that's such
40:39
Speaker 12: a beautiful final statement because she was very proud of
40:42
Speaker 12: that program. But Rita, I thought of you when the
40:45
Speaker 12: news came down because we were just talking about how
40:47
Speaker 12: much we loved her.
40:48
Speaker 10: So I knew you would be sad too.
40:50
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
40:54
Speaker 3: And her legacy is just so enormous. And that love story,
40:59
Speaker 3: I think we're going to hear a lot more about
41:01
Speaker 3: that love story because, like you said, 60 years together
41:05
Speaker 3: and he passed away last year. And often you see
41:08
Speaker 3: with these love stories where people have been together that long.
41:13
Speaker 2: When one partner goes, the other follows.
41:18
Speaker 12: Now, I talked to somebody who worked for Dolly for
41:21
Speaker 12: a very long time, hours after it was announced. Actually,
41:25
Speaker 12: I did it. I wanted to confirm that it was true.
41:27
Speaker 12: I didn't want to believe that it was true. And
41:29
Speaker 12: he told me that Dolly has not been the same
41:32
Speaker 12: since Carl's passing, that she was just a shell of herself.
41:36
Speaker 12: And she kept herself busy because that's what she was
41:39
Speaker 12: used to doing. But we didn't see her out and
41:41
Speaker 12: about the way that we normally did. And she was
41:44
Speaker 12: just heartbroken, to your point.
41:47
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
41:48
Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. They've
41:51
Speaker 3: already arrived in the UK. They touched down for an
41:54
Speaker 3: extended stay. It's been speculated the couple will live at
41:58
Speaker 3: a private residence in the picturesque Cotswolds region outside of London. Kinsey,
42:03
Speaker 3: the climate change activist flew in on a private plane.
42:08
Speaker 3: You've got some details for us about how much this cost.
42:12
Speaker 10: That's right. Welcome home, Harry and Megan.
42:14
Speaker 12: Nothing says environmental leadership quite like arriving in Britain on
42:17
Speaker 12: your own private jet. They reportedly flew from Van Nuys
42:21
Speaker 12: to Birmingham, chartered through Planet Nine Private Air. And the
42:25
Speaker 12: reported charter rate is around $ 12, 000 an hour. You're looking
42:29
Speaker 12: at roughly a 10-hour flight, give or take. So potentially
42:32
Speaker 12: around $ 120, 000 just for the aircraft time. before additional fees.
42:37
Speaker 12: But can I tell you, I suspect we know exactly
42:41
Speaker 12: who chartered this jet because Harry and Meghan potentially got
42:45
Speaker 12: a discount in return for allowing us to know.
42:50
Speaker 10: That's my personal opinion.
42:52
Speaker 12: But to your point, Harry spent years telling the rest
42:55
Speaker 12: of us how to save the planet. Apparently the planet
42:58
Speaker 12: can save itself once you pull up to Van Nuys Airport.
43:02
Speaker 2: Well, that's something he shares with his father.
43:04
Speaker 3: King Charles, another climate change activist, has been known even
43:08
Speaker 3: before he was king to take helicopters and private jets
43:12
Speaker 3: when he couldn't even drive that distance. So who do
43:16
Speaker 3: you think's funding this largesse? Who's paying for this enormous fee?
43:22
Speaker 12: I mean, I think that potentially they did an exchange
43:25
Speaker 12: for the coverage. I mean, we are talking about it
43:29
Speaker 12: in Australia right now. I will be talking about it
43:32
Speaker 12: in an hour in the United Kingdom. So my personal
43:36
Speaker 12: opinion is they said, can we do this for trade?
43:40
Speaker 12: We're going to give you more publicity than you've ever
43:42
Speaker 12: had in your life.
43:44
Speaker 7: Wow.
43:45
Speaker 3: So they're basically Insta influencers now. That's what they're going
43:48
Speaker 3: to do.
43:49
Speaker 2: They're going to get freebies for Insta.
43:53
Speaker 3: Now, Meghan isn't just leaving behind her Montecito home.
43:56
Speaker 2: She's also leaving behind her chickens, the poor chickens.
44:00
Speaker 3: Radar has revealed the Duke and Duchess will bring their
44:03
Speaker 3: dogs to the UK, but the household staff.
44:07
Speaker 2: Will remain responsible for their chickens. Kinsey, how could they?
44:12
Speaker 10: Rita, this is devastating.
44:14
Speaker 12: First the royal family, then Spotify, then Netflix, and now
44:17
Speaker 12: the chickens.
44:18
Speaker 10: Everybody gets markled eventually.
44:20
Speaker 12: I'm just relieved somebody finally asked the important question about
44:23
Speaker 12: this international relocation.
44:25
Speaker 10: What about the chickens?
44:27
Speaker 12: Apparently the dogs did make the cut, which isn't always
44:30
Speaker 12: the case with Meghan Markle.
44:31
Speaker 10: One of her former dogs remains in Canada.
44:35
Speaker 12: I just hope somebody has explained to the chickens that
44:37
Speaker 12: their mother has gone back to acting.
44:41
Speaker 7: Wow.
44:41
Speaker 3: I just hope those chickens survive and I hope the
44:44
Speaker 3: staff don't, you know, have a roast dinner and decide
44:47
Speaker 3: the chickens, you know, could serve a purpose there. Now,
44:50
Speaker 3: Express UK reports that Meghan Markle was in talks to
44:53
Speaker 3: star in Guy Ritchie's series, The Gentleman, two years ago
44:57
Speaker 3: before she dramatically pulled out. Kinsey, she allegedly bailed on
45:01
Speaker 3: the show after failing to secure police protection.
45:06
Speaker 12: The source for this latest claim is not one I
45:09
Speaker 12: personally consider reliable. That story requires a pretty enormous leap
45:13
Speaker 12: of faith. Megan was offered this huge role and turned
45:15
Speaker 12: it down.
45:16
Speaker 10: I doubt it.
45:16
Speaker 12: I mean, what I trust more is variety, which says
45:19
Speaker 12: Guy Ritchie was essentially brainstorming.
45:22
Speaker 10: And Megan was just one of many.
45:25
Speaker 12: I think the word they used was smorgasbord of names
45:27
Speaker 12: being floated around.
45:29
Speaker 10: Their source says it was barely real on any level.
45:33
Speaker 12: Multiple industry people are openly suggesting This could have been
45:37
Speaker 12: floated by Meghan's camp simply to signal that she's available
45:40
Speaker 12: for work. We're reading in the Daily Mail that Meghan
45:43
Speaker 12: plans to spend a significant amount of time in America,
45:47
Speaker 12: that she wants to spend more time in America than
45:50
Speaker 12: the UK. She's already planning when she's going to come back. So, yes,
45:53
Speaker 12: she wants us to know she's available for work.
45:57
Speaker 2: But how is that going to work?
45:58
Speaker 3: I thought the children were going to be enrolled in
46:00
Speaker 3: school in the UK. So is their mum going to
46:03
Speaker 3: be sending them to boarding school perhaps?
46:06
Speaker 2: That's something the royal family do?
46:08
Speaker 12: I can tell you exactly how it's going to work.
46:11
Speaker 12: Prince Harry has told friends he's going to be a
46:13
Speaker 12: stay-at-home dad. Meghan's going to be the breadwinner. But I
46:16
Speaker 12: would remind you that Meghan had another relationship where her
46:20
Speaker 12: and her husband lived in different countries when she lived
46:23
Speaker 12: in Canada and Trevor Ingleson lived in the States. He
46:26
Speaker 12: found out they were getting a divorce through a FedEx
46:29
Speaker 12: man who delivered her rings to her ex-husband. I'd also
46:33
Speaker 12: remind you of Charles and Diana, which Diana lived at
46:37
Speaker 12: Kensington Palace and Charles lived at Highgrove. We've read this
46:40
Speaker 12: fairy tale before, Rita, and it doesn't end with a
46:43
Speaker 12: happy ending.
46:45
Speaker 2: Maybe they will defy the odds. We'll wait and see.
46:48
Speaker 3: The actor Rupert Grint, who played Ron Weasley in the
46:51
Speaker 3: Harry Potter movies, is being called out for reprising his
46:55
Speaker 3: role as Ron for a Broadway show. Kinsey, there's anti-JK
47:01
Speaker 3: Rowling activists having a go at him. calling him a
47:04
Speaker 3: hypocrite for taking part. I've got to say, I agree
47:07
Speaker 3: with the hypocrisy claim. Yeah, I'm definitely pro-JK Rowling. But
47:12
Speaker 3: if you're going to be having a go at this
47:14
Speaker 3: woman and calling her a transphobe and saying you don't
47:17
Speaker 3: align with her values, why do you continue to get
47:21
Speaker 3: rich off her creation?
47:23
Speaker 7: I mean, I.
47:25
Speaker 10: I understand what you're saying.
47:27
Speaker 12: I feel like if JK had a problem with it,
47:29
Speaker 12: she would have stepped in and ensured that it didn't happen.
47:32
Speaker 10: But she's been so really gentle and forgiving.
47:36
Speaker 2: She is so generous with these idiots.
47:38
Speaker 3: She has been so generous and forgiving with these idiots.
47:43
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, some of those child actors didn't exactly
47:46
Speaker 3: go on to great things.
47:48
Speaker 2: Her work gave.
47:49
Speaker 3: Them enormous fame, enormous fortune. They'll probably never have to
47:52
Speaker 3: work again. And they still kicked her. They never stood
47:56
Speaker 3: up for her, but she has never returned serve. She
47:59
Speaker 3: has always been very kind and considerate to them, even
48:03
Speaker 3: though they're all adults in their 30s now.
48:06
Speaker 12: Well, and I feel like that's probably the issue here
48:08
Speaker 12: with Rupert. What's the last thing you saw Rupert in?
48:11
Speaker 12: I think it was a weird Apple Plus show that
48:13
Speaker 12: I could never finish. But Ron Weasley changed his life.
48:16
Speaker 12: You know, he's now returning to play the character as
48:18
Speaker 12: a grown man and a father, which he is, you know, himself.
48:21
Speaker 12: So you could think of it and look at it
48:24
Speaker 12: and think it's sweet and that these people, the purity police,
48:27
Speaker 12: are being unfair and the new unforgivable curse is employment
48:31
Speaker 12: to them because, you know, he's collecting a paycheck.
48:34
Speaker 10: But I see both sides here.
48:37
Speaker 3: Now, quickly before you go, North West has revealed she
48:40
Speaker 3: wants a regular job at Starbucks. A 13-year-old Nepo baby
48:45
Speaker 3: has told Days, when I'm like 13, I want to
48:47
Speaker 3: walk dogs, to make money, to buy art supplies because
48:51
Speaker 3: everything around here is so expensive. I like that she
48:54
Speaker 3: appreciates what's happening in the economy, Kinsey. I admire that
48:58
Speaker 3: because most 13-year-olds with her wealth or her parents' wealth
49:03
Speaker 3: would be oblivious.
49:06
Speaker 12: I think the message itself, it's sweet that North wants
49:08
Speaker 12: to earn her own money. But did Hayden Pianotere teach
49:12
Speaker 12: us nothing? Why are we hearing this much from a 13-year-old?
49:15
Speaker 12: Why isn't this family protecting her? Yeah, I just thought like.
49:19
Speaker 10: She's got plenty of time to become a Kardashian.
49:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
49:23
Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield, absolutely nailed it. Thank you for your time.
49:27
Speaker 3: And that's it for me. Up next, it's Late Edition.
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Speaker 1: Late Edition.