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This Gay Week April 3 with Scott Jacobsen: Rights Moving Backwards · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 1: No time to fear. Corella is so near because show
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  Speaker 3: Corrella is the one that you need to know. Now
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  Speaker 3: it's show time.
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  Speaker 4: It is time for this Gay Week with Scott Jacobson
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  Speaker 4: and me. We're gonna talk about stories from around the world.
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  Speaker 4: Some of them funny, some of them alarming, all of
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  Speaker 4: them very very gay. So don't go anywhere no, all right,
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  Speaker 4: it is the Carrel Show. I am Carrel. As you
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  Speaker 4: can see right below me, it's Scott Jacobson. I won't
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  Speaker 4: make any jokes there because I picture him the top
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  Speaker 4: but today's bottom. But you know whatever, Hey, it's this
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  Speaker 4: gay Week. I have to be a little gay, right,
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  Speaker 4: and so we are going to be discussing stories from
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  Speaker 4: around the globe that are of interest to the world
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  Speaker 4: in terms of the gay news. Can I just start.
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  Speaker 4: I have to start with this. I didn't send you
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  Speaker 4: the story, but I gotta start with this because I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure even in Ukraine. By the way, we heard horrible
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  Speaker 4: things overnight about bombing in Ukraine. Are you and all
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  Speaker 4: of your friends they're safe.
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  Speaker 3: I am safe, most of my friends are safe, and
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  Speaker 3: we have gotten a lot of aread alarms lately. I've
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  Speaker 3: been walking around town city all day and I've been
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  Speaker 3: getting enough of aerat.
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  Speaker 4: Alarms all right. By the way, I can't bump up
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  Speaker 4: turn up your volume, whichever you want to do. Okay, good,
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  Speaker 4: so you're safe. So I just want to start with
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  Speaker 4: this story because I can't reiterate enough how I don't care,
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  Speaker 4: but I find it just ironic. We talked about it
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  Speaker 4: on my show. So our department, former Department of Homeland
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  Speaker 4: Security head who is anti drag, anti trans, anti gay,
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  Speaker 4: she's everything but anti maame. We found out this week
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  Speaker 4: because a sex worker leaked video and photos of her
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  Speaker 4: husband in drag cross dressing. So the former department Christy Nome,
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  Speaker 4: her husband is a cross dresser, and he was wearing balloons,
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  Speaker 4: like actual balloons, like for his boobs. And one of
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  Speaker 4: the balloon ends was like up here and the other
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  Speaker 4: one was like over here. So he had cock eyed boobies.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm not going to kink shame him.
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  Speaker 4: He does that for sexual pleasure. Good for him. But
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  Speaker 4: the irony that they all immediately started talking about please
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  Speaker 4: send us thoughts and prayers and you know all this
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  Speaker 4: other stuff. Scott like he was a mass murderer. Christine
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  Speaker 4: Nome shot a dog when she was younger, she oversaw
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  Speaker 4: a department that killed two innocent protesters, and in Minnesota
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  Speaker 4: we found out that seventy five percent of the people
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  Speaker 4: arrested by ice were not criminals. But the straw that
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  Speaker 4: broke the back with meeting thoughts and prayers was her
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  Speaker 4: husband being in really bad drag. So he doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: to be bothered. He just needs a stylist. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he really could do some fashion sense. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: an ironically sweet story because here we have someone so
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  Speaker 4: anti gay, so anti trans, so anti drag, and her
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  Speaker 4: husband is on camera with giant boobs and red panties.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't make this up. Tell me they
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  Speaker 4: heard about this in Ukraine. I'm hoping they heard about
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  Speaker 4: it worldwide.
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  Speaker 3: We were hearing explosions, you know, But I think, I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's common, well, that's real common. I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: have really prominent stories like that one. There's even more ironic.
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  Speaker 3: I remember there was that one case of the individual
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  Speaker 3: who was a leading figure in the conversion therapy movement,
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  Speaker 3: and he himself ended up turning to be Okay, you
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  Speaker 3: know this happens all the time.
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  Speaker 4: So let's start with the domestic story. Scott Jacobson from
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  Speaker 4: the Good Men Project and many other publications really respected
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  Speaker 4: journalists around the world. If you actually read his stuff,
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  Speaker 4: it's everywhere and he's interviewed some incredible people and me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm the outlier. But let's start with a domestic story.
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  Speaker 4: So you heard what happened in Idaho, correct, So the
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  Speaker 4: Idaho governor is going to sign a bill to literally
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  Speaker 4: make it so illegal for trans people to use the
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  Speaker 4: bathroom that they could go to jail for life. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm not making that up. It's it's real. And so
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  Speaker 4: I have a solution and suggestion. I just thought i'd
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  Speaker 4: bounce off of you. What would you think if trans
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  Speaker 4: people just started shitting in front of the bathrooms.
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  Speaker 3: It would remind me of the Satanic Temple when they
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  Speaker 3: all dressed in diapers and they started crying and whining
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  Speaker 3: across some from some protesters that were pro life, and
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  Speaker 3: then they're pouring milk on themselves.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you in Ukraine, is there is there.
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  Speaker 4: You're in Ukraine, Is there any bathroom kerfuffle over there
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  Speaker 4: about trans people? Is there? Does that? Is it even
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  Speaker 4: on anybody's radar?
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  Speaker 3: Know? What they consider existential issues are a little more media.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I don't think anywhere out from the
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  Speaker 4: world anybody is worried about where trans people go to
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  Speaker 4: the bathroom except here. So I'm I have decided to
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  Speaker 4: counsel trans people to just crap in front of the
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  Speaker 4: bathroom because the fine and feeds for doing so are
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  Speaker 4: chie are are less worse than if you go into
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  Speaker 4: the bathroom. So if they're in the bathroom, they can
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  Speaker 2: Correll is the one.
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  Speaker 4: That you need to know, all right. So we are
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  Speaker 4: back with Scott Jacobson in this gay week. Uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's not it's so much not
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  Speaker 4: an issue to the rest of the world, and here
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  Speaker 4: in America we just seem preoccupied where where people are peeing? Uh,
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  Speaker 4: and it's amazing to me. And I really I want
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  Speaker 4: to know who the bathroom police are going to be,
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  Speaker 4: because the law says you can't use a bathroom that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't isn't the gender you were born.
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  Speaker 2: Who's gonna I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, are there literally you know, I know that Scott,
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  Speaker 4: You've been to some very nice places and when you
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  Speaker 4: go to the bathroom there's like a porter or a
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  Speaker 4: guy there, you know, with the cologne and the hand
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  Speaker 4: washing stuff, and he wants a tip, which I always
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  Speaker 4: wondered why because I did it all myself. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: But are they now gonna have to check your junk?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, are you literally gonna have to have a
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  Speaker 4: junk check before you go to the bathroom? And if
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  Speaker 4: you've already had the surgery, how are they gonna know
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  Speaker 4: with fake junk from real junk? I mean, I did.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you heard, but I think ICE
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  Speaker 3: is going to be having a spinoff group to be
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  Speaker 3: dealing with at least half of the bathroom problems, and
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be called.
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  Speaker 4: Liquid liquid eyes. All right, I mean, we just about this.
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  Speaker 4: It's really third world country kind of bullshit. And it's
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  Speaker 4: remarkable to me that with everything going on in the
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  Speaker 4: United States right now, just like in Ukraine, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not like we're not at war whatever. This is
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  Speaker 4: what the governor of Idaho, a state where education is failing,
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  Speaker 4: where infrastructure is failing, where people are going hungry, where
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  Speaker 4: climate change is ravaging. This is what he, you know,
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  Speaker 4: decides that he needs to deal with. But okay, all right,
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  Speaker 4: let's talk about more worldly issues. I've read them all,
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  Speaker 4: so you go ahead and pick.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think I want to do the general context.
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  Speaker 3: So Leo verod car noting the former teaesock of Ireland.
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  Speaker 4: Now why is he important?
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  Speaker 3: Conservative? Is he important?
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  Speaker 4: He is? Leo was the first openly gay teathock of
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  Speaker 4: Ireland showing now, and we should explain what the teaesock is.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm kind of mispronouncing it, but I'm not Irish.
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  Speaker 4: So Ireland has a president and it was michae D.
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  Speaker 4: Higgins and now it's a woman. And the president is symbolic.
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  Speaker 4: They they have a little legislative power, but not so much.
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  Speaker 4: They live at Ottas on Uterian, where I have been.
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  Speaker 4: That's their white house in the middle of a beautiful
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  Speaker 4: park in Dublin.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And they are more of a figurehead sort of person.
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  Speaker 4: Ireland used to be broken into four tribes, and Teasesock
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  Speaker 4: literally means leader of the four tribes. Uh. And so
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  Speaker 4: the de facto person that runs the country is not
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  Speaker 4: the president, it's the tea soock and Leo was the
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  Speaker 4: first openly gay Teasock that there is. That's why he
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  Speaker 4: is of importance, particularly in this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: But go ahead, Well, I mean the big story around
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  Speaker 3: that is not a specific narrative, but the overall theme
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  Speaker 3: that there has been a quote chilling unquote of LGBTQ
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  Speaker 3: equality essentially from East Europe to West Europe. And so
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  Speaker 3: I think that's going to be sort of guiding a
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  Speaker 3: lot of conversation only this week, but probably for some
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  Speaker 3: time to come. So that was a general commentary from
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  Speaker 3: someone who would be in a position to be able
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  Speaker 3: to make synoptic judgments about, essentially in American terms, the
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  Speaker 3: vibe within East and Western Europe.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead and say what he said about Trump in America.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Well, he said we're off the trolley. We've
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  Speaker 4: we've fallen. I he basically said, you know, we're That's it.
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  Speaker 4: We've fallen off. You know, we're we're a mess basically
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  Speaker 4: what he said. Uh. And so this is the.
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  Speaker 3: United States has lost the plot.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we've lost the plot. Now this is important for
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  Speaker 4: reasons that you state, first of all, being the first
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  Speaker 4: gay tea sock.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm hoping Pete Boudah Judge will be the first
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  Speaker 4: gay US president because I would vote for him. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He is a top. I can just tell because Chaston,
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  Speaker 4: you know. But anyway, he has been in a unique
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  Speaker 4: position for some time, Leo, because he already served. He
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  Speaker 4: is no longer the teesock. I believe, I believe there's
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  Speaker 4: a new one.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He already served. And so he went through his term
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  Speaker 4: and he went to you know, the G eight, and
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  Speaker 4: he went to you know, the w h O, and
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  Speaker 4: he went to all these world meetings. And so he
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  Speaker 4: was able to have all of these meetings with world
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  Speaker 4: leaders and discuss LGBTQ rights because he is gay, and
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  Speaker 4: it is something that often came up. And he, more
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  Speaker 4: than anyone would be able to gauge the temperature of Europe,
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  Speaker 4: where it's going, where it's headed, and how they are
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  Speaker 4: for LGBTQ rights. And he is sounding an alarm. He
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  Speaker 4: is saying, it is sliding backwards all over the EU
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  Speaker 4: from east to west, not just here, not just there,
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  Speaker 4: and we need to pay attention to this because if
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  Speaker 4: we don't, it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
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  Speaker 4: And he does a tribute in the article some of
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  Speaker 4: this to the trump Ism and America losing the plot.
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  Speaker 4: It's frightening when you hear a world leader who is
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  Speaker 4: openly gay talk about how bad things are getting, because
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  Speaker 4: it's got to be getting pretty thick and bad if
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  Speaker 4: he's issuing this warning. So I don't know who the
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  Speaker 4: warning is for. Gay people know it's getting bad, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we already we get it. I think his warning is
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  Speaker 4: for world leaders and for those in government, because I
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  Speaker 4: think he wants people to pay closer attention to what
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  Speaker 4: is happening to LGBTQ rights. Gays already know it. You
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  Speaker 4: don't have to tell us it's getting bad. Whether we're
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  Speaker 4: in the UK or the USA or wherever Canada. You
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  Speaker 4: don't have to tell us that it's getting bad. I
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  Speaker 4: think his pronouncement, his warning is really more for world
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  Speaker 4: leaders so they can, you know, be aware that these
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  Speaker 4: things are happening. And that they need to put it
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  Speaker 4: onto their radar. But I don't know that his warning
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  Speaker 4: is going to be met with receptive ears, if you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. I think the bellwhether the signs
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  Speaker 4: have been everywhere that gay rides for sliding backwards. I
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  Speaker 4: think that his warning just reinforces what we know. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure his warning is going to get anyone to
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  Speaker 4: stop the slide.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been seeing a lot of this. I'm curious
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  Speaker 3: about a meta question because we have seen the last
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  Speaker 3: twenty years, according to Freedom House, a decline in democratic
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  Speaker 3: governance globally in an increase in autocratic governance. So so
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's sort of the two dimensions there, but
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  Speaker 3: they themselves have you know, you could be a strong
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  Speaker 3: democratic society or a weekly democratic society and so on.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm curious if that correlates in any robust, empirically
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  Speaker 3: validated way with the reduction in LGBTQ plus rights. My
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  Speaker 3: guess is, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see the story about social media users being
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  Speaker 4: less inclined to support democracy? This just came out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: particularly younger people who are on social media, they don't
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  Speaker 4: necessarily support democracy anymore. And are are they optimistic about
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  Speaker 4: it Now. Look, there was still an overwhelming number of
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  Speaker 4: people that do. It was like sixty plus percent believe
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  Speaker 4: in democracy and all of that, But the story was
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  Speaker 4: about the alarming number, the rising number. It's almost forty
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  Speaker 4: percent of online users who don't really value democracy that much.
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  Speaker 4: They don't see it as a valuable asset. They think
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  Speaker 4: it's time has come. And it's odd because when they
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  Speaker 4: did a follow up krestin, well, then are you about autocracy?
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  Speaker 4: Are you about you know, an oligarchy? A lot of
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  Speaker 4: them didn't really have an answer to the other form
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  Speaker 4: of government that they may in fact support. They just
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  Speaker 4: were not about democracy. And when you have one third
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  Speaker 4: or more of young users online saying democracy isn't that important,
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  Speaker 4: it's frightening because we know that it is important, and
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  Speaker 4: we also know that in democratic society is how you
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  Speaker 4: get equality for gays, lesbians, women, minorities and marginalized people.
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  Speaker 4: You don't get those in autocracies or oligarchies, as the
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  Speaker 4: United States will now attest. So I do believe what
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  Speaker 4: you say that it goes hand in hand that as
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  Speaker 4: less people are gung ho about democracy, less people are
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  Speaker 4: also less go I mean, more people are less gung
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  Speaker 4: ho about democracy. I think more people are also less
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  Speaker 4: gung ho about equality across the board for marginalized communities.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why this shift is happening. No one
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  Speaker 4: seems to be able to place a finger on it.
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  Speaker 4: Why are people all of a sudden souring on equal
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  Speaker 4: rights or souring on democracy? But in many ways they are,
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  Speaker 4: and that's a sad fact of modern day life.
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  Speaker 3: Were does this an American study?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: It was, okay, So two things probably going on there. One,
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  Speaker 3: the American educational system is not strong, particularly poor communities,
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  Speaker 3: and two, society has not been serving much younger people
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  Speaker 3: very well in the American context, as opposed to older
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  Speaker 3: generations put around like social infrastructure and so on. So
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  Speaker 3: if they're in a system that is declaring itself democratic
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  Speaker 3: and they feel disenfranchised and they are relative to other generations,
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  Speaker 3: but they don't know a lot about other governance systems
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  Speaker 3: from within the educational system they've been given, then they
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  Speaker 3: can say I don't really believe in democracy because that
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been serving them well. But they don't really know
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  Speaker 3: an alternative, and so they couldn't define an alternative way
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  Speaker 3: tech abootocracy.
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  Speaker 4: So the story is from Gallup, and it says social
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  Speaker 4: media use linked to mixed views on democracy. Forty four
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  Speaker 4: percent of heavy social media users, thirty percent of non
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  Speaker 4: users believe in citizens' power. Support for democracy is seventy
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  Speaker 4: two percent among non users fifty seven percent among heavy users,
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  Speaker 4: which means that forty three percent of heavy social media
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  Speaker 4: users are not heavily supportive of democracy. That's that's damn frightening,
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  Speaker 4: is what that is. Actually, that's that's scary. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that goes hand in hand with what we're seeing
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  Speaker 4: when it comes to equality.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks story, Next, do I do it with me? No?
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  Speaker 4: You lead me?
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  Speaker 3: Stack, the bottom can lead the top.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes, who are we kidding? In the relationship, the
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  Speaker 4: bottom has the most power, trust me on that.
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  Speaker 3: Of course. My wedding, the head is in is in
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  Speaker 3: charge with the neck, and turn the head wherever it
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  Speaker 3: wants to, exactly, So Belarus following, by the way, get
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  Speaker 3: a pain in the head.
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  Speaker 4: Will by the way, get a pain in the neck
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  Speaker 4: and the head. We'll see how important the neck is.
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  Speaker 3: I like that. That's good. That's good. So we were
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  Speaker 3: noting several weeks several times, several weeks ago, how Kazakhstan
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  Speaker 3: has been having a replication to some degree of Russian
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  Speaker 3: anti LGBTQ stances and laws being proposed, and similarly to
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  Speaker 3: see an export to Belarus, which is also another sort
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  Speaker 3: of supporter under Lukashenko of the Russian Federation, the Kremlin
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  Speaker 3: and Putin and so in spite of the fact that
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  Speaker 3: Belarus decriminalized home sexuality in nineteen eighty four after the
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  Speaker 3: clouds of the Soviet Union nine ninety one, but it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't recognize same sick marriages and lacks protection for LGBTQ rights.
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  Speaker 3: I believe mister Lukashenko was mocking homosexuality. The country has
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  Speaker 3: about nine point five million people. Uh, what else is
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  Speaker 3: going on here?
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  Speaker 4: By the way, don't mock gaye if you're from a
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  Speaker 4: country most people can't even find on a fucking map. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know you're from a country called Belarus. Who the
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  Speaker 4: hell names of country Belarus? And you're gonna mock the
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  Speaker 4: LGBTQ community. I'm I'm looking at a world map right now,
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  Speaker 4: and I wasn't even be gonna know where to look
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  Speaker 4: for Belarus. It's some little bump fuck country over here
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  Speaker 4: in Europe. But nine million people the mouse that roared, really,
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  Speaker 4: but Yeah, they're not gay friendly there. And it's odd
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  Speaker 4: because you know, the more eastern I'm assuming Belarus is
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  Speaker 4: Eastern Bloc. Where'd you go? I lost you? I can't
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  Speaker 4: lose my Scot. Oh no, I lost my Scott. Well,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: we're gonna keep going until he comes back. I will,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I will change this here. He is in Ukraine, by
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the way, so that's you know, that's a problem sometimes
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: because because they have internet cafes and such where the
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: power goes out. So it's really cool that we get
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: to do, you know, the this show with him from Ukraine,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: but sometimes he departs all of a sudden, uh, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: he has h so we'll come back. But yes, Belarus
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: is in the Eastern Bloc. I can I can talk
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: on this subject. Belarus is in the Eastern Bloc, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: you know, historically it has not been a really great
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: place for gays.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: And they were making some advances and then they weren't,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and so we're at a weren't time again where they're
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: being you know, and again I you know, I completely
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: blame Trump on this, by the way. And so their
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: parliament has passed a bill to further crackdowns on lgbtqu
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: right which is not really surprising. The Parliament of Belarus
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: passed the bill on Thursday to introduce punishments for people
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: who promote LGBCPU causes, in an echo of restriction set
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: up from neighboring allies in Russa.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So are you backing?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: No show? All right, all right, I believe Scott is back.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Let's double check. Are you there?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: There?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: You are?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Hello?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: As I told people, you're in Ukraine and the Internet
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: is not necessarily the most reliable thing there at the moment.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: So but but yes, I was telling them that the
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Parliament of Belarus they passed a bill that introduced punishments
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: for people who promote LGBTQ causes. And again we've talked
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: about this and they never really outline what that means.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, what does promote LGBTQ
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: causes really mean? Passing out flyers for a gay dance?
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know what, what exactly does that mean?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Advertising a gay bar? Is that promoting lgbt So they
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: never really there. They always remain vague on what promotions.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Pardon it's legislative intimidation.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that the bill makes propaganda of homosexual relations,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: gender change, refusal, refusal to have children, that's gay. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: know a lot of straight couples are like, I'm not
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: having kids. Uh. And and pedophilia, which is amazing they
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: would group that into anything gay because gay does not
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: mean pedophile. That's old, that's antiquated. If that were the case,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: then Donald Trump and half of his friends would be gay.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Uh you know, because well, Epstein files and all. Uh so, well, no,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: they'll never be in jail. The head of the new
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: after Pambondi just got fired as our attorney general and
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the guy taking her place announced on air this morning
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: that there will be no more further exploration of the
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: justice of the Epstein files by the Justice Department. He
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: just said, they have no interest in pursuing this. They
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: want it out of the news cycle.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: So that's why he wanted the job of the news cycle. Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that's a different frame than we are looking for full accountability,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: and they're not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: They made that close. No, he made it clear they
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: don't care about accountability. They've done all they want to
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: do about the Epstein files period and that's it. Uh.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: And that's of course why he's getting the job, uh
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: you know, because so there we go all right, Uh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: let's go for something fun, shall we. London Pride has
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: had some problem. You know, UK prides have had some problems,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: and we've talked about them here. One of them didn't
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: pay the bills, if it was Manchester Pride or something,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: you know, didn't pay their bills and went bankrupt. And
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: another one got taken over by another group because it
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: was about to you know, fold and so they've had
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: a bunch of problems. Well, now, Christopher Joel Deshshields. Uh,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: he was the head of London Pride. Obviously the boy
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: likes to smell good because he got fired for a
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: misappropriation of funds because he used them to buy perfume.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Now, if you ask me now, perfume not cologne.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: That's true. Now, if you ask me as a gay man,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I think it is a damn good use of gay
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Pride funds to buy perfume. I just I do you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: it depends on what kind. I mean, you know, it
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: has to be something nice.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Uh, what's your favor? What's your favorite Colonne?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Oh? Now see that I'm an eighties kid, so I
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: like the old sense like lagger Feld and Drecard Noir
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and Chaer has a cologne that I love and adore.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: It's called It's by Share. And then I also have
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: one called Sung s u n G very cheap like
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: thirty bucks a bottle. Love it, it smells delicious. Kenneth Cole.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I love Kenneth Cole Polo by Ralph Lauren. So I
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: love the classics that were around in the eighties because
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: they remind me of a certain time and a certain partying,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: you know, and all of that. Most new colognes I
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: don't like. I do like Share. I like her cologne.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I saw one being promoted by Johnny Depp. But the
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: last person in the world I think I would want
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: to smell like is Johnny Depp because he always looks
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: like he needs a shower, so I don't see why
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: they have him. I mean, maybe he has to cover
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: up the stench, so it might have to be a
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: very good cologne. I mean, but no, what about you?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: What is your favorite perfumeer cool? My favorite perfume is
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: joy By two and Chanel Number five because my mother
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: used to wear both of those. So if I smell
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: joy By Japer two or Chanel Number five, it brings
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: back memories of my mom.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I like a scent, I put it in storage. Then
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I forget the name of it, and then I use
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: the one until it's done, and I go to the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: next I have one here I can go grab.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: But how many do you have?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I have fourteen?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Fourteen? I think mine I was at the horse farm.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I would switch between eight and nine.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I have fourteen, and they're all above my mirror in
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the bathroom, in the line, and each day I pick
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: a different one. So today's scent, by the way, was oh, oh,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: it's in the little body of a man Jean Claude vent.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: What's his name, Jean Paul Gautier. So today I'm using Gautier.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: And the bottle is a little man with a tank
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: top on and a little package and everything. And to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: put it on you got to grab him by the package.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: And I think the spray, I think, I really believe
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: you should have sprayed it by pressing his you know.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: You know what, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or like
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: a little lever.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I mean it's yes, exactly, I mean it's Goatier. I mean,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: come on, you know, all right, So yes, But the
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: London tri boss, Christopher Joel Deschelles has been fired from
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: his position for allegedly misappropriating funds for the use of perfume.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I did some research. There have been people of Pride
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: in Long Beach had happened for tax problems, not reporting
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: proper income, all of that people have been removed, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: as far as I could find, he is the first
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: organizer of any pride event in the world to be
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: removed for buying perfume.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: That I love this story. I love this story because
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: it's so silly and ridiculous and just like flammbuoyantly non
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: serious that it's much better than a lot of the
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: other stories, because a lot of the other stories we're
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: dealing with are like bills and laws being passed that
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: once are in place, it takes it can take years,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: or they never get reversed, and then you have, however,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: many thousands of people's lives just up maybe not necessarily upended,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: but just made unpleasant.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Now, a bigger part of the story for me was,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm not saying people aren't worth it, but his salary,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: which he has been paid, was eighty seven five hundred
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: pounds a year, which is almost one hundred thousand dollars
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: in the United States, a that seems like a lot
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: for somebody who runs a nonprofit that is having funding issues,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: And b how much is the fucking perfume? If you
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: can't afford it on one hundred k a year, you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Know what do you buy it? Coming out of the
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: line items or coming out of his own salary?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Well, he's done an ongoing legal dispute. No, it's coming
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: out of the donation he's accused of. Frustrates the investigation.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. That's what christ we
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: will disco to break and come back.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: To me girl.
• 29:23
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• 30:17
  Speaker 4: All right, we are back with Scott Jacobson doing this
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: gay week. So the guy Joela de Schelds at London
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Pride who was making eighty seven five hundred pounds a
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: year for his job, allegedly spent seven thousand dollars on
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: vouchers donated by a sponsor.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Or.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: He spent seven thousand dollars of vouchers donated by a
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: sponsor on two things, perfume and apple products Luxury perfumes
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and apple products. According to the directors, these were supposed
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to be vouchers for prizes, giveaways for various different events
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: you know, and fundraisers and such. In a whistle blowing disclosure,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: the volunteer director claimed that there was a bullying culture.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Following an independent investigation, Pride in London said on Tuesday
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: it had decided to sack Joel d'eschelds. He has been
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: chief executive since twenty twenty one. He's appealed the decision
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: but it was upheld by an independent council. Pride in London,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: which is one hundred year round volunteers and two paid
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: members of staff, of which he is won, said its
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: interim chief, Rebecca Pasias, would be implementing a new governance
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: structure to ensure Pride in London operates at the highest standards.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: They of course will have theirs on July fourth, because
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: they don't celebrate you know, Independence Day. It's actually a
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: touchy subject in London. I would imagine the event cost
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: one point three million a year to run and relies
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: on one thousand on day volunteers. It's funded by corporate
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: sponsors and receives one hundred and seventy five thousand pounds
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: a year from the Mayor of London's office. They're saying
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: this is very frustrating because it might cause other to
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: not donate, thinking that people at the organization are misappropriating
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: their funds. A High Court ordered in twenty twenty five
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: that Dechell relinquished control of Pride and any property that
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: they had, including bank accounts, internal systems and equipments. He
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: appeared back in court accused of two charges of contempt
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: for failing to comply with the order, which lawyers for
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Pride in London argues was attempt to frustrate the independent investigation.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: He had not returned to company laptop as it was
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: bought for him by the company after his personal device
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: was damaged in his line of work. So he's saying
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: that he bought the computer because his was damaged in
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: the line of work and therefore they owed him a computer,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: And they're saying, no, if your personal computer is damaged
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: while you're at work. That's your computer. And you know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: tough luck. So you know, I don't know if your
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: computer is damaged over there in Ukraine. Are you going
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: to ask your bosses to fix it?
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: No?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I fund myself and you're not going to buy the
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: expense account, are you or not?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: No? I will love be doing that what I did
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: do actually when I was in the front line seating
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: hard kee even four. I'll be going back there pretty quick.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I bought this laptop here. It has uh sort of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: English uh lettering and then also has a corrillic or
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: like Eastern European, like Russia that corellic.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I have my own language Correllic.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they get you. You could almost say so. And
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: this thing, it's it stood me through uh and if
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: it broke, I'll just buy another way. And also his
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: work off that device. It's a device. The device has memory.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Download the memory onto a USB or some other thing
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: or through the cloud, transfer equal you can do now
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and then hand the device back. It's a very straightforward.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: So this is he.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Wanted a new laptop, he got one, and he wouldn't
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: give it back.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Well this is what yeah, well, this is what I'm saying,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing someone who is engaging in quote frustrating unquote.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Peace, frustrating for frustrating these except for them. I saw
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: the investigation put its hands on its hips and stomp
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: its feet because it was so frustrated. I was, Yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: So here's my favorite story of the day because I
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: don't have a fucking clue what it means, which you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it's always nice when you can be confounded by something.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: The Finish there's a Finish MP, member of Parliament who
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: has been convicted for saying homosexuality is a devep developmental disorder.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: She's a Christian. Her name is pave Ronasson. She was
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: fined eighteen hundred dollars. She is supported by the conservative
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: US group what have we talked about us exporting our hatred?
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Alliance defending freedom and her parliament found her guilty of
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: by the country Supreme Court of inciting hatred after claiming
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that homosexuality was a debap debut. I can't say the
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: word because I have a developmental of disorder, uh in
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: a conviction that prompted criticism from far right government minister.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Saying that you're.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: The website finished angelic reationary diet.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Show time is here.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: No time.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Is so near because show time is here, So on
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: with the show. Let's give it a go. Carrell is
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the one that you need to know.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: So in a three to two vote, the Supreme Court
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: on Thursday found her guilty of a crime when she
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: published the pamphlet on Facebook in twenty nineteen and on
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: her website the following year. She was supported in her
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: case by the US based conservative legal advocacy group Alliance
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Defending Freedom, which has tried to use her case as
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: an example of censorship in Europe. The group has ramped
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: up its global spending on litigation and other campaigns after
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: successfully overturning Roe v. Wade in the United States. So,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: as I told you, this is a direct example of
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: an American organization that has no business meddling in Finnish
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: politics doing so to promote their anti gay agenda. And
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: now they're mad because the Finns weren't having it. They
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: were like, no, you know, so you know it's funny.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Doctor Laura and I had a conversation once she came
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: under attack because she said being gay was a byol
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: logical error, and she got a lot of a oh
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: did you freeze? You froze like you did last time?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: No, there you are, you're you frozen.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I just heard screaming outside. I heard screaming outside. What
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and then I heard screaming and ambulance.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: So do you need to go check?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, let's wrap up and then then
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I'll go check. No, I did not here.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: No, I want to know what's going on. You can't
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: just you can go check and I can talk about
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the fins and then you can come back. I want
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: to know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: The moment.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll talk about the fins here until he
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: comes back. You can't be in Ukraine and say you
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: heard screaming outside and then not, you know, come on.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Uh So anyway, so I'll tell you all this that
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I was going to tell Scott. Doctor Laura once said
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: that being gay was a biological error and she got
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of crap from it, and you know, probably
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: rightfully so, because we're not an error. Now. When I
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: had a conversation with doctor Laura about this, I said,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: you would not have gotten in as much trouble if
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you said that being gay was a biological anomaly, you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: or a biological rarity. But when you say error. You're
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: saying that it's biology making a mistake. Gay people are
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: not a mistake. But let's be real. Even at the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: current polling amongst everyone, where it's nine percent, and then
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: of a younger group eighteen to twenty five, it was
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: eighteen percent, that is still statistically a minority. Even if
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: you go with ten percent, that's a minority. Ninety percent
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: of humans not gay, ten percent gay. So it is
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: a biological anomaly. It is something that happens in nature.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: It happens in nature all the time, but it's not
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: prevalent in nature. It is the prevalence in nature is heterosexuality.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: The minority of nature would be being gay or lesbian,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: or by or trance. And even if you go with
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: the eighteen percent of the people that were eighteen to
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: twenty five, that still leaves eighty two percent you know
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: that are not gay or lesbian or Scott's back, hold on,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: gotta get him, Okay, what happened?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: It would seem to be either police or ambletance taking
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: someone away. There was no shah head or I mean
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: a blistic missile. You would tell her, yeah, head also,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: but I just saw most of us by the way, probably.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Most of us wouldn't have that in our vocabulary. By
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: the way, a ballistic miss though, you would know right away.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well of course, yeah, well yeah, I mean
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: they fall all the time around you in Las Vegas,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: they're always.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, I'll tell you a story. In twenty
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: twenty four, there was attack in Poltava, Ukraine. The estimates
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: that I'm recalling from mainstream of portage after sufficient times
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: they could count the bodies and the injured were approximately
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: fifty seven killed and maybe approximately three hundred and seventy injured.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: So Pultava, it's by Sumi. Some friends and I colleagues
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: journalists were traveling to Sumi, and one of them literally
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: got a call from their grandmother in Romania. Did you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: hear about the attack in Poltava? And we talked for
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: fifteen seconds. We said okay, and so we changed our plans,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: turned around. We got there what two or three hours
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: after Reuters was there, BBC News's team was there, Al
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Zero was there, We as independent journalists were there. UNHCR
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: was there, military police, civilians are looking on the outside.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: We were not allowed in because they were still clearing
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: rubble in bodies and so there's a ceremony of some
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: sorts for a military not necessarily an academy, but an
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: educational institution, and then a host and then a medical facility.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: They're both hit by what they call iskandor missiles. There
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: are types of blisk missiles that have a blast radius
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: of probably up to five hundred meters, which you mean
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: a kilometer in diameter blast, and so by which I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: mean several hundred meters out. The windows shatter, and so
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the glass was everwhere, and so I got so Alasiera
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: gets that I'm guiding them like this where you can
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: kind of get a good shot into over it. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: it's it's striking how eerie and normal it is when
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you're there and you realize three hours ago, almost sixty
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: people were still alive at a celebration ceremony, and then
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: people were sick as well, and then many were killed
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: and many many more were injured, and we're actually the
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Algacaria team. They must have rushed it through production because
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: they ended up filming my friend Remus and I me
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: walking towards the camera with my press vest on with
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: the press plate, and then I think I have my
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: combat helmet in my arm or something holding and so
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: maybe I could say say I have an zero credit
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: by act because they post it on YouTube, you know.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: And so if you hear a ballistic missile, very different.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: My first day when I arrived here, I was staying
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: at a friend's place, maybe four stories up, and I
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: had my noise canceling headphones on just to sleep the night,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to get used to it again. And all you see
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: is a flash of light, and then you hear off
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: in the distance of a lot, and then that's the
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: ballistic missiles. And then over time, i'm you start hearing
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: anti air guns and then that's when you realize that
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: she heads are coming. And I remember I was just high.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I was high enough and we were distance enough from
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of areas in a pechers Key district, a
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: central district in Kiev, Kiev Oblast. And all you hear
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: is is something akin to the sound of a lawnmower
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: in the sky. Shot heads are not quiet. That's how
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: they terrorized the public as well. And it was flying
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: above or bully. This is maybe eight weeks ago or
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: six weeks I think, And and then you hear so
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: then you hear the anti airguns, and then you hear
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: the shot heads explode, and sometimes you hear some exploding
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: succession and close and so here right and why that happens?
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Most dangerous place I've ever been to, South central l A.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: This This is why you know I can tell the
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: sound of some of the popping a cap in someone's
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: fast but you and I can. I know gunshot that's
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: when I hear them. But I never want to. I never,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: in my life want to hear the things you have heard.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: And I mean that, I never want to know the
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: difference between a ballistic missile or other guns. I never
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I just never want to be in that area or
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: under that situation because it's horrifying. It's the worst, it's
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: our lowest. How do I say this, It's the biggest
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: failure of mankind that we use these weapons against each other.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: That is the the biggest failure of mankind is using me.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: The biggest imagery I can give that is non poetic,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: non romanticized. Is it something like an anti symphony? You
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: go to a symphony to enjoy it, and it's just no.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were used for political messages in the past, granted,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: but they aren't really. And you have sort of this
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: developmental trajectory of many of them worse. You have the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: bay speat and then you have sort of higher harmonics
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: play in and then there's a a peak and then
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: at them and conclusion and Beethoven symphonies were sort of
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: famous for this.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: And he's not gay head for those of them, that's right.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: And the deaf joke that they can't hear you as a
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Beethoven joke, he was deaf, actually, I think he did.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I think he did siventy five when he was deaf,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: or at least progressing towards it. But I think he
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: started learning how to do acoustics through the thank you. Yeah,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: so there you go, thank you and so very clever
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: person and so but here you have.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Invention dude, like they did age. So he's like, I'll
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: just lay on the piano.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so what you'll see here is you'll get
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the aird alarm on your phone. Then you'll hear it
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: in the distance above the metros where it's where the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: main sound comes from. I'm quite near one right now,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: so you'll hear it. You'll wake up three a m.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Five and then and then if ballistic missiles hear those,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: if the anti arrogance you hear those or anti arrogance plush,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: your heads exploding, and then the anti arrogance fade out,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and then the air to larns fade out. You know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: that's an anti symphony. It's not something you go to
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: or want to go to, and it's not enjoyable because
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: you feel terror automatically. It's like listening to Trump speak.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: It's like listening to Donald Trump speak. You don't want
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: to do it. It's not rhythmic or beautiful. It sends
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: terror down your spine and you wish it would stop.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Back to everything.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: By the way, as I was explaining, while you were
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: out checking about your neighbor being hauled away, how she
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: called it a developmental disorder. I was telling people. Doctor Laura,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: a famous conservative in America, once said on the station
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: I was on that being gay was a biological error.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: And what I told Laura that I would have agreed
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: with her if she'd said it was a biological anomaly,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: because statistically, even of the new statistics and ten nine percent,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: ten percent of whatever, there are more gays than not.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: So while it's prevalent in nature, it is not a
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: majority of nature. So to say it's an anomaly would
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: be fine. To say it's an error means that nature
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: made a mistake, and that's not fine. We're not a mistake,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: we're just rare in nature. And you know, if this
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: woman wanted to point out that being gay is biologically
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: different than being heterosexual, I have no problem with that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: But calling it a disorder and a developmental disorder, no,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: because science and psychiatrists have for decades now countered that
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: by saying, no, it's not you know, it's not a
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: developmental disorder. It's not a brain disorder, it's not a
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: psychiatric condition. So what she was saying, I think she
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: got fined because what she was saying wasn't just hatred,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: but scientifically wrong. You know, it's just wrong. It's not
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: a disorder. And unfortunately, we now have a country known
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: as the United States that is sliding backwards into we
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: mentioned we started this mentioning repairative therapy. You only repair
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: something that's broken or a disorder or whatever. So once
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: again in this country there's a movement to look at
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: being gay as something that's a disorder and is fixable,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: as opposed to it being a natural, normal state of being.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: So you want to call it an anomaly, a biological
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: rarity whatever. That's fine. I don't mind being rare, shine
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: bright like a diamond. But you want to call it
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: a disorder or an error, then we have a problem.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm glad. I applaud the Finnish Parliament and the
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: courts for their decision and smacking this bitch around a
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And eighteen hundred euros for someone that's at that level
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: in position, probably not a big deal anyway.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: No, but it's symbolic, and that's what's most important. You know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: we talked about this before, about you know, at least
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I think there was a ruling in Kenya that we
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: talked about where the guys actually went to jail after
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: attacking gay people, because what used to happen was they'd
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: be convicted of the crime, but then the charges would
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: be dismissed. In other words, yeah, you beat up these people,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: but we're not going to put you in jail for it,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: so you're guilty, but no jail time. This time they
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: gave them jail time, and it wasn't a lot, but
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: at least it was something the same here. You know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: if they would find Marjorie not Marjorie Tellergreen because she's
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: got to come to Jesus moment. But if they would
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: find American politicians every time they spewed something hatred, hateful
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: against Gays, Mexicans, blacks, whatever, I think some of them
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: would be a lot less inclined to do it. But
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: if it freely rolls off your tongue and then you
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: realize it ain't free, it's going to cost you, you'll
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: think twice about it. So I bet, and you know what,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: I bet that the Alliance Defending Freedom paid her fine
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: how much you want to bet?
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I would agree with the Prince.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll finish up with Scott in UH, Ukraine
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: right after we come back from this last break on
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: this gay week when they'll go the full hour. Why not,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: we're here, we're queret Well, one of us UH and
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: everyone's to it and obviously not around the world, obviously
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: not everyone's used to it yet. Now it is shore side,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: all right, we are back by the way Scott our
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Fred today. You could watch live on YouTube but it's
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: late now, but there's like forty fifty people watching us
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: live when I wasn't even scheduled to go live. So
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: you know, we've got some people in the chat room
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Colonel Angus is in there, and Art a couple of
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: MAGA people are in there too, But so what, you know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: who cares. I've always said I'm not you know, I
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: don't hate MAGA. I just hate the ignorant ones. Joe
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Rogan seems to hate them nowadays. He just called them
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: ignorant geeks and everything else. It's funny how all these
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: high ranking MAGA people are now fleeing MAGA. It's, you know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: like Marjorie Taylor, Green Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Candace Taylor.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: They're just they're fleeing the movement there. And someone just
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: told Piers Morgan, some big conservative, that MAGA is dead,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: that it's you know, that's over as a movement. So
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: it's funny how they're throwing their own, you know, under
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: the bus. Interesting to watch. All right, Let's see if
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: we got any other story that we didn't do. We
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: did the MP we did Leo, we did London Pride,
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: which was delicious, Idaho bill and which I still think
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: trans people should just shit out in the in the
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: hallway the Belarus Parliament passing bill to crack down on
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: gay rights. Boy two amusing and one depressing so that
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm sorry two yes too, amusing for depressing
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: and you know the Idaho thing, it scares me along
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: with the Supreme Court. So we didn't talk about this.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe we did last week about the Supreme Court's ruling
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: on conversion therapy. I wanted to explain to people what
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: the ruling did and did not mean, because there's a
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: lot of misinformation out there. I'm sure you read that
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: the US Supreme Court said that Colorado's ban on conversion
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: therapy was unconstitutional. They did not strike down Colorado's ban
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: on conversion therapy. They did not strike down any other
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: states ban on conservative on conversion. They can't even say
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: it conversion therapy what they did, and this is where
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: people are missing the point of the news story. A therapist,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: a woman therapist, wanted to be able to verbally counsel
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: her patients about repaired tove therapy and you know, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: use techniques, verbal techniques to try to get them to
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: not be gay. She didn't want to torture them, do
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: the electrodes, do the ivs, parade straight porn in front
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: of them, all the other repairtive therapy tactics. She wanted
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: to talk to them about repairtive therapy and what it
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: is and how to do it and give them the
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: tools to do it. So she couldn't because of the
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: ban on repairedive therapy and Colorado. So she sued and said,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: my freedom of speech with my patients is being infringed
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: because you're telling me what I can and cannot talk about.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to shock them, I'm not going to
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: tie them up. I'm not going to put ivs in them.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I just want to talk to them. Albeit what she's
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: saying has been deemed psychological torture by the many organizations,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: but she wanted the chance to do it. So the
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: court said, if you're just going to be talking, if
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: you're just speaking to your patient, then you should be
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: allowed to do that on any topic. So they said, okay,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: we're striking down the part of the band that says
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: she can't speak to her patients about repairtive therapy. They
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: didn't strike down the band on repairtive therapy, but they
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: said that a psychiatrist or a psychologist could speak to
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: their patients about repairtive therapy and try the techniques on them,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: the verbal techniques, but not anything other than verbal. However,
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: the opponents are saying, well, verbal is psychological torture, and
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: so you're still saying she can torture her patients. The
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Supreme Court didn't see that as torture, but they did.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: It doesn't strike down the bands in the other states.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: It doesn't strike down the Colorado band on actual repairative therapy,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: where they you know, do ivs or electrodes or the
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: other things that they do. It just gave a therapist
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: the right to speak to her patient about it. So
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be clear. I wanted to be clear
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: about that because there's a couple of big stories this
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: week that were misinterpreted. The other was the headline that
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: the bullet from Charlie from the shooter alleged Charlie kirkshooter
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: that the bullet doesn't match the gun. That is a
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: wrong headline. What if you read the brief, what they're
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: saying is that because the bullet was shattered when it
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: hit him and went through his neck, the casing shattered.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: So because it was so damaged, they can't match it
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: to the gun because there's not enough left of the
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: casing to match, and so they can't say, yes, this
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: casing came from that gun, not because of ballistics, because
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: it's not a ballistic match, but simply because they can't
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: test it for ballistics because the bullet's too shattered.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: It's like saying the DNA from this mummified corpse from
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: some Egyptian pharaoh is too degraded to do any genetic analysis.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Exactly. That's exactly what's happened. But the lawyer for Charlie
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Kirk's a lled shooter, has said, you know, you can't
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: match it to the gun. So you know, that's really
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: not what they're saying. They're saying that we can't guarantee
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: that this shell came from any gun, no matter what
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: gun you put in front of us, because the shell
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: is too damaged to be matched. So the headline was deceiving,
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: you know, it was just deceiving. By the way. We
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: have a someone in the chat room that went to
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: the California tulip fields and they say they're amazing. So
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: isn't that nice to hear it?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm I'm I'm half Dutch, so thank you very
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: much for that comment. Mister and missus.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Tulip person it snowsquirrel says the tulip field is amazing.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: They went and bought some tulips, and apparently chickens don't
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: like tulips? Who knew? Did you know? I didn't know.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Why don't they like to?
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know? She didn't, Yeah, chatter, Can you tell
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: us why chickens don't like tulips? How did you find
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: this out? Did you bring your chicken with you to
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: the tulip field? Is it a the emotional support chicken
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: and it didn't want to go into the field? Or
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: how do you know that tulips and chickens don't mix?
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And what do you do with your emotional support chicken?
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: After you're done it's getting support, you.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Donate it to a vegan farm. That's what you do.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: I like you don't kill your.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Friends that and not owned by the Dutch.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Why do you are you all on chickens?
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: No? I was making a like as if they had
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: tulips all over their farm with the Dutch.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: You know, well, we have them in California, as you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: we have the big there's big tulip fields. And here's
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: the problem. They've become so instagrammed these tulip fields that
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: the cities where they're at are now asking people to
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: not come because they're destroying the tulip fields. All right,
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: God Jacobs, that has done with us from the Ukraine.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I am Karel be who you want to be? Something
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: hurt you, buddy? Uh, next Friday. Will have it this
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: day week as well. Hopefully we'll record it on Thursday
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: so I can have Friday off. But hey, I was
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: here live all right. Stay safe over there and avoid
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: ballistic missiles.
• 58:55
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