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Jordyn Tyson Hamstring Injury, Who Replacing Him ?? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: As we were wrapping up the show on Monday, we got
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  Speaker 1: the absolutely crap ola pile of dog poo news that
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson that hamstring injury is gonna cost him about
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  Speaker 1: two months, likely'll missed the first five games of his
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  Speaker 1: rookie season. Kellen Moore, meeting with reporters, spoke about Tyson's injury.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan has a has a hamstring, you know, something
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  Speaker 2: he's We're going to continue to collect some more information
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  Speaker 2: just as far as what that timeline looks. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's kind of got caught in a goofy spot. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's not anything related to a previous hamstring. It's just
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  Speaker 2: something new. And so they'll collect some more information on that,
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  Speaker 2: put together a good action plan for that moving forward,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, we'll keep progressing as well as
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  Speaker 2: we ken.
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  Speaker 1: So that was Thursday, after the practice with the Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars where apparently he kind of got hit from behind,
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  Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore was quick to point out that this
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  Speaker 1: is not a sign of things with this checkered injury.
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  Speaker 1: Injury passed from Jordan Tyson.
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  Speaker 2: Think understand of this one. Any player that was put
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  Speaker 2: in his situation where you kind of your foot slips
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  Speaker 2: and you get shoved from behind. This has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with Jordan's history. This is any player in that
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  Speaker 2: situation probably has the same diagnosis coming out of this.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll just navigate. They'll collect a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: information here and you know, talk to playing people. Just
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  Speaker 2: put together a plan for us, and we'll move forward.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fair or unfair, it absolutely has to do with
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  Speaker 1: his injury history. This is how you get defined as
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  Speaker 1: an injury prone player. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying you have to like it. It's the fact
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  Speaker 1: dude's knee exploded when he was at Colorado. He goes
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  Speaker 1: to Arizona State, he breaks his collarbone, he sprains his ankle,
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  Speaker 1: he pulls a hammy like he is an injury prone player.
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  Speaker 3: Period. Now there's good news.
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  Speaker 1: There's been examples throughout the history of football of guys
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  Speaker 1: at one point were labeled injury prone or had recurring
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  Speaker 1: issues that they kicked it.
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  Speaker 3: Marshall Lattimore was one of them. Coming out of Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of acerned about his hamsterring history,
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  Speaker 1: and he kicked it throughout his NFL career. Patrick Peterson
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  Speaker 1: when he played at LSU. Remember all the dehydration issues
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  Speaker 1: that kept manifesting it. They have cramps and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Like Pat Pete played a full, healthy NFL career for
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  Speaker 1: more than a decade. So it's possible, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: optimist point of view. But it is also impossible to
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  Speaker 1: sit here today and do anything other than label Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Tyson an injury prone player. I hate it for him,
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  Speaker 1: I hate it for me, I hate it for the Saints.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it for everyone who loves the team in
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  Speaker 1: the organization and cheers for him. It sucks you spent
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  Speaker 1: the eighth pick in the draft on a guy that
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  Speaker 1: was having an awesome camp. But the one question, the
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  Speaker 1: one question, go back to any what any of us
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  Speaker 1: who said in this chair at this microphone said after
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  Speaker 1: the draft, or anybody who said anything about the same
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  Speaker 1: like talk about here. This is Chris Simms. Here's Chris
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  Speaker 1: Simms talking about the risk going along with Jordan Tyson.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson, this was the risk for Jordan Tyson. This
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  Speaker 4: is what Jordan Tyson was the number one receiver on
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  Speaker 4: everybody's board, everybody. The only reason he was the number
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  Speaker 4: two receiver was because of the injury risk.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, like it's not like this is the conversation we
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  Speaker 1: all had around the draft was the injury history, and
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  Speaker 1: here it is. So it's it's popped up before he's
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  Speaker 1: played a game. So there's nothing that Saints can do
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  Speaker 1: about it. Like you just have to suck it up,
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  Speaker 1: let him get healthy, and when he's available, roll him
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  Speaker 1: out there. The thing that's so disappointing is that you're
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  Speaker 1: so like we came out of last season so optimistic
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  Speaker 1: about Tyler Shuck. The thought was, Okay, you think you
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  Speaker 1: might have hit on your franchise quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Now give him weapons. Go get David.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards, the four to five, the line draft, Oscar delp Pay,
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  Speaker 1: Travis Chen Junior Draft, Jordan Tyson, Barry and Brown, Brice Lands.
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  Speaker 1: Give this dude weapons to see if he can actually
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  Speaker 1: go be awesome. And you saw Jalen polkertire and now
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson's injured, and now like everybody's moving up a
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  Speaker 1: chair and we'll see Kendrick hurt again. But like as
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  Speaker 1: I look at the receiver room, it was so exciting
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  Speaker 1: to think about a Lave and Tyson and tandem Chris
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  Speaker 1: Alave who three of his four seasons in the NFL's
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  Speaker 1: had a thousand yard season and you put a truly
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  Speaker 1: explosive guy opposite him. What that tandem could look like?
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  Speaker 1: Now we gotta wait to see it. But now when
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  Speaker 1: you look at this receiver room, doesn't it kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel a lot like it did last year? Like bear
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  Speaker 1: with me, okay, like spell this out. If we could
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  Speaker 1: have looked at it and said, all right, a lave Tyson,
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  Speaker 1: that's an awesome one too. It's why I used the
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  Speaker 1: eighth pick on Tyson. Now it's a Lave and Devon Vley.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, man. You could be
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  Speaker 1: super pumped about Devon Veley if you want to be,
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  Speaker 1: and he might be awesome.
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  Speaker 3: But here's what I know.
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  Speaker 1: In the first nine games that Devon Vele played last year,
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  Speaker 1: he caught six passes.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We were clowning that dude every single week, not just me, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: They traded a draft pick to get to Von Velay
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  Speaker 1: to bring him in and he had six catches in
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  Speaker 1: nine games. Now, in the final four games, he had
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  Speaker 1: nineteen catches, but the bulk of that came in one
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  Speaker 1: game against Miami, where he had eight in one game. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: are we really looking at a four game sample size
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  Speaker 1: where eight catches against Miami tells you Devon Vleay is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. We haven't seen this over a full
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  Speaker 1: season from him, and he's gonna be your number two. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: He's not gonna be your number two. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Baryon Brown. So the rookie out of LSU who never
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  Speaker 1: had over six hundred receiving yards in four college seasons,
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  Speaker 1: you're convinced is.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be the guy.
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  Speaker 1: Like, don't get me wrong, I'm excited about Barry and Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Barry and Brown practice. He can fly, He's
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  Speaker 1: got big playability. In four years in college, he never
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  Speaker 1: made it happen. But I was really excited about Barry
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  Speaker 1: and Brown as your number four. Like when you had
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  Speaker 1: a Lave and Jordan Tyson and Vela and then Barry
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  Speaker 1: and Brown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going that dude's number four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, when you're telling me now I need Barry and
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  Speaker 1: Brown from Jump to be my number two, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like that as much. You could be pumped about Bryce Lance. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of thousand yard seasons at North Dakota State. Great,
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  Speaker 1: he was a thousand yard receiver in the FCS enter
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  Speaker 1: Mason Tipton.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I get it, he's six.
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  Speaker 1: threees, athletic good wing, span all this stuff just missed
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  Speaker 1: the first preseason. Game but my point is, like nothing
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  Speaker 1: of this is a. CERTAINTY i Like Bryce lance is
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  Speaker 1: my number, five but what if you're asking him now
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  Speaker 1: to be your number two or? Three we changed the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: Now Like i've give you this example for. Years there's
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  Speaker 1: one my, Buddy Charles handergriff used for forever about. Baseball
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  Speaker 1: he's got Tingm Blake, gill who played AT lsu early
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  Speaker 1: in his, career was betting seventh and playing second. Base
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  Speaker 1: later in his, career he was betting third and playing,
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  Speaker 1: Shortstop And handkerffs, SAID I i Like Blake gill a
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  Speaker 1: lot as my second basement beating. SEVENTH i don't like
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  Speaker 1: him as much as my shortstop batting. Third same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Here so, LOOK i know there's this feeling, like, hey
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  Speaker 1: Mal shuck did it last year throwing To Kevin austin
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  Speaker 1: and Samare torre And Ronnie, bell and you could make that,
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  Speaker 1: argument and they went five and four With Tyler shuck
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  Speaker 1: as the starting. Quarterback you know how many points he
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  Speaker 1: scored in those. Games here's the point totals that The
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  Speaker 1: saints scored in those games With Tyler. Shuck the nine
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  Speaker 1: games ten, seventeen, ten, seventeen twenty, four, twenty twenty, nine thirty, four.
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  Speaker 1: Seventeen by the, way the twenty nine and the thirty
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  Speaker 1: four were against The jets and The, titans two teams
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  Speaker 1: that are. Pooh so you scored twenty nine against The,
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  Speaker 1: jets thirty four against The. Titans there's only one other
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  Speaker 1: game where you scored more than twenty and.
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  Speaker 3: One to two of them more you score ten and
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  Speaker 3: three of them. More you scored. Seventeen like.
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  Speaker 1: You can Buy Tyler shuck stuck AND i. AM i
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  Speaker 1: Like Tyler shuck a. LOT i think he's gonna be really.
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  Speaker 1: Good but we can't pretend like the nine Games shuck
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  Speaker 1: started last year The saints with the greatest show on
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  Speaker 1: turf recreated like the offense was sluggish and sloggy a,
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  Speaker 1: lot which is why they went and Gave Tyler shuck.
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  Speaker 1: Weapons but now those weapons are. Eroding and by the,
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  Speaker 1: way you start the season on the road At, detroit
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  Speaker 1: and you start the season then week, two you're on
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  Speaker 1: the road At, baltimore like.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the good.
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  Speaker 1: Vibes man just kind of the some of the shine came,
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  Speaker 1: out and here's the good. News after those first two,
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  Speaker 1: roads or you're going to be an, underdog you come
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  Speaker 1: home for three games and you should win them. All
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  Speaker 1: you're home against The, Raiders falcons And. Vikings you should
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  Speaker 1: win all three of those. Games if you don't win
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  Speaker 1: those three games at, home then we've been wasting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of breath hyping this. Team you'res truly. Included and
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  Speaker 1: then you're at The giants and then you go To
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  Speaker 1: paris to play Against. Pittsburgh and that's about the, time
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  Speaker 1: either at The giants or the road game Against pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: when you should be getting when you should be Getting
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  Speaker 1: Jordan tyson. Back you go into that game on the
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  Speaker 1: road against The giants at three and. Two maybe you
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  Speaker 1: lose your road, games you win the three at, home
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  Speaker 1: you're three and. TWO i could feel good about that
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  Speaker 1: team hitting that stretch because you have a winnable stretch
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  Speaker 1: Coming Browns. Panthers where you Go, Giants, Steelers Browns, panthers
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  Speaker 1: and then the gauntlet that we've all talked about at
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  Speaker 1: The bengals home against The packers At panthers At, bucks
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  Speaker 1: like At bears At, Bengals packers At panthers At. Bucks,
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  Speaker 1: like that's a brutal five game, stretch but it sets
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  Speaker 1: up for a manageable Finish cardinals at Foul. Bucks you
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  Speaker 1: got to keep your head above water to get to
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  Speaker 1: a point Where tyson can impact you in that winnable
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  Speaker 1: stretch there With, Giants, Steelers, Browns panthers before you go
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  Speaker 1: into the brutal.
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  Speaker 3: Stretch just, sucks, man really. Sucks and they're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to have.
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  Speaker 1: Some guys step up who maybe you weren't expecting to
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  Speaker 1: play really key roles because of what you'd invested In Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: Tyson that all got flipped on its. Head, now all,
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  Speaker 1: right it's after further of. You we're glad you're with,
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