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Now here are the hosts of the United We Scan Podcast.
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Welcome back, everybody. Episode 73.
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Guess there's some new videos that the National Board has put
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out. And of course, James has his new
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breakdowns for those as well. I have not watched them yet, so
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I won't be included in that. But I'll give my opinion where
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it's necessary. That was your.
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I will exactly. You know, pinions are like
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assholes. Everyone has one.
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James, how was your week? And some of them are bigger than
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others. Exactly.
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As we have discussed normal week for me at the post office, you
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know, heavier than several of the past few weeks in terms of
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mail volume. Which is surprising considering
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that we've heard from our president so often that mail
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volume's declining, mail volume's declining.
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And then I get slammed with mail right after Mid States and it's
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kind of hilarious to me. On Thursday, I had an interview
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with Ron Speakman of Fed Up podcast.
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So Fed up with Ron Speakman, we'll have a interview with me
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coming up shortly. He'll she'll be posting that any
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times, so be on the lookout for that.
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And then this weekend got to see the auroras.
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I heard they could see them all the way down into Florida at
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points, but I actually got to see them for two days in a row,
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so it was actually my first time seeing them.
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So it was beautiful, Got a lot of pictures of it.
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I'm sure I shared it with several different places for
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people to see, but other than that, just a normal weekend for
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me. Didn't have to work Saturday
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like some people chose to or had to, but I got a lot of other
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stuff accomplished during that time anyway.
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So but other than that, it was a good week for me.
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How about you, Bill? Oh God, it's nothing better than
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coming back from vacation and Monday morning.
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Coming into 26 feet of flats. Damn.
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And then and then seven tubs of flats.
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I I clocked in. I walked over to the supervisor.
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I said, you want me to go home now or do you want me to go home
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at 10:00 tonight? And she says what?
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I said. This isn't all going well.
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Let me talk to the postman. So she turned around.
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The postmaster said we could leave the Clippers.
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Oh great. The easiest thing to handle is
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the thing we can leave. So I actually got out of the
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office at 2:55 on Monday to hit my route and I returned at eight
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O 3. The the, the funniest thing was
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when I walked by the supervisor and the postmasters there and I
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said, Gee, I wish somebody could get the plants under control so
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that we don't get everything on Monday and they spread it over a
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week And the postmaster says we can't do nothing about that.
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And I says I know why is that. And and we all know what?
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Well, in my area we all know why the the the plants answered and
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nobody but themselves and it's just horrendous that you get
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slammed like that on a Monday and then the rest of the week
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there's nothing. Yeah.
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Even even at the local level couldn't the postmaster delay
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some of the third class stuff until Tuesday and Wednesday.
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I mean is it that hard a job folks to figure that out that
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you don't want carriers out till 10:00 at night on Mondays.
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The rest of the week was normal. It was moderate parcels and
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parcels on speaking about stuff that I don't tray up.
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And then, you know, a phenomenal amount of spurs, you know,
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11151614 trays of spurs every day.
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And I'm only taking out six to seven trays of mail except for
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Monday, Monday. Monday was 13 trays of mail.
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But I mean, it's just ridiculous, folks.
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I mean, can't you just figure this out?
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It's not magic. It's it's not the calculus.
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It's not geometry. It's it's common sense.
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But you know that's like I said, you know common sense and and
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you know common courtesy are not so common in it more other than
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that. Like I said, you know, good
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week, grandsons Mother's Day. And now I'm here with my
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favorite people in the world, a second favorite, third favorite
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people in the world and looking forward to the next upcoming
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week. And like I said, I'll be, I'll
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be out for five weeks starting the 20th for an operation.
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But I'll still be participating in the podcast and gave my wife
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you know what to do when an active carrier dies And my my
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will updated Will and she's like what's this for in case I die
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because don't say that and I said, well you have to prepare.
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You never know when you go under whether you're coming back out.
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So, you know, it's supposed to be a normal operation and
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everything, and they'll put a mesh in there, but hey, it's all
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in God's hands, not mine. How about you, Kristen?
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How was your week? It was heavy for me all week
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Monday, coming back off of mid states.
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I hadn't worked since what, Wednesday, so I was all
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discombobulated. Monday I was missing parcels,
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turning around multiple times throughout throughout.
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They're like, oh there's another one.
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Monday was heavy as usual. It's Monday, Tuesday actually.
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I was looking forward to walking in and having maybe a three 3
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1/2 DPS for a Tuesday, which is normal for me.
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Nope, I had three. So yeah, it was pretty heavy all
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week and then I had to work my K day yesterday because our H
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route is took some vacation time so they needed my sub for that
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route and food drive day. And actually yesterday ended up
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being the lightest day of the whole week for me.
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So I guess if I'm working my K day I was glad it was light and
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even given the rain we did pretty good with donations on
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the food drive. So, but other than that, my week
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wasn't too bad, just heavy. And yeah, not a whole lot going
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on other than that. And this week I've got, I'm off
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Wednesday, so I'm not too worried about it.
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Ruby's got her OB appointment and then Thursday I start
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training a new RCA. We will see how this, we will
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see how this goes. This RCA is an older person, so
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we'll we'll see how it goes. And as far as the food drive
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goes, Lord, I wish people would stop complaining about having to
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do it for one day. Exactly.
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For one day, I mean, you have a job, you know you've got
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benefits if your career, even if you're an RCA, you can have
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benefits or PTF. But God, there are so many
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people out there hurting right now.
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And you know you can't be generous.
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You know, for one stinking day you know of yourselves.
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I've worked this route on Food drive day in the past as an RCA,
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so I know how much I can pick up on this route and I didn't pick
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up anywhere near what I have in the past.
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Oh, I think a lot of that was because of the weather.
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But the majority of the stops I did have to stop at, I actually
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had to get out and load it into the back of the truck because
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there was that much, Whether it was garbage bags because it was
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raining or boxes with bags on top of them to keep the rain
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off. I had quite a bit.
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But there was like only a couple 2-2 of the stops I picked up
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that I could actually pick it up from the cab of the truck.
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So yeah, it wasn't too bad. I was actually impressed with
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what I did have. A sub said she had more pickups
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than she had mail and parcels. That's like.
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Yeah, I mean in the past I would have been able to say that with
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the way yesterday went. But yeah, I mean as somebody who
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has been, you know, scraping the bottom and has had to use food
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pantry services in the past, you know, I have no issues with the
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food drive day and having to pick stuff up because I know
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it's going to go to the people that need it.
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And it's tough out there for many folks, including many
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postal workers. I mean, you know, it's it's
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tough out there. Yeah, and I just saw a report
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that American Airlines actually gives its brand new flight
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attendants poverty letters to take into their Community Health
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and Human Services organization so they can get food stamps
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because they are paid less than $27,000 a year.
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Yeah. And they have not ratified a
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contract since 2019 for them. So I'm hoping they get a good
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contract in their negotiations that they're doing.
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But theirs is a lot bigger of a contract than ours.
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I read one part, there's a section on it on just uniforms
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that is specifically 15 pages long.
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So and then they got other parts like duties and responsibilities
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that they have to do in the contract that's 78 pages long.
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So they've got a long contract fight ahead of them, but right
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now they're they're on the food pantry and food stamp lifestyle
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themselves and we've got Rcas that working one day a week
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aren't making it either so. I tell you what I do.
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I do miss, so miss those paychecks.
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Coming home working six days a week as an RCA though.
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Yeah, I hear that. I hear that same thing up
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though. You know, I I don't get me
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wrong. I I like the consistency of
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having a somewhat same paycheck every pay period.
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But I I do miss some of those RCA paychecks.
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I won't lie. But yeah, no, you know, I I have
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no problems with food drive day. You know, a lot of people
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grumble or how we're going to get paid for this.
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Honey, you know, you never got paid for it in the past.
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You're not going to get paid for it now.
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You know it. You're you're providing a
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service and there are many of those that are in a lot of worse
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spots than we are that need those services.
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And so yeah, I honestly don't mind.
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It's just really nerve wracking when people are throwing stuff
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that's been expired for five years out there to pick up.
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But I don't know. Yeah.
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What's worse than that is like, you know, carriers, I know that
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when they bring the food back, they go through the bags to find
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out what they want to take and they always yell at me for that.
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Yeah, I don't know. So this week's topic everybody's
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been abuzz about and begging for us to do a breakdown on is
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Mastan's video on doing this, Step 4 on route adjustments and
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what it means to the rural carriers.
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So we're going to go through this line by line, the parts
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that have the most impact that we can talk about in the very
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first line, very first sentence. He goes, hello, my union brother
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sisters, hello my union sisters and brothers.
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Do you think somebody actually learned from the last one we did
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to correct his way of speaking about it?
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Plagiarism. But he goes on.
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Last week, the NRLCA filed a national level grievance on the
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Postal Service's failure to follow the contractual
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provisions, which requires the that rural carriers receive
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interim adjustments based on the formula in the national
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agreement. How long have we been dealing
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with this bill? Seven months.
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More than. Well, pretty adjustments at
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least seven months for following the contract, 103 years.
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It's it's amazing to think that we have this provision in here
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to adjust routes interimally when we add more boxes, add more
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miles to a route that has been in place for a long time and was
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working just fine prior to Rex. And they turn around and
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implement Rex and have no way of fixing anything that is required
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of them. He then goes on to say, I had
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been hopeful that the Postal Service would have already
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implemented the interim and justice process since we had
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approved the worksheet they presented to us more than seven
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months ago. He was hopeful that the Postal
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Service would do it. What's your thought Bill?
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Do you think you they've they would have done it anyway?
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Well, let's take that word hopeful, and put it in context
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of what the national board hasn't done for the past 15
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years at least, And that is hoping that the post office
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stands up on their end of the contract, that they abide by the
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letter of the law. And hopeful is oh I'm gonna wait
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for them to get around to do it before I do something for
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there's enough exertion on the National board to actually act
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in the interests of the carriers.
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Hopeful is I don't know what to do let me talk to our legal team
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and find out what we should do. This is the the same context
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that I negotiate for your on your behalf for a new contract.
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But I have nine different advisors even one from the
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Teamsters help us negotiate a new contract.
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You are hopeful that somebody who is used to taking advantage
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of our craft. We're hopeful that a entity, a
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business entity that for five years from 2018 to 23 has not
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paid people for their overburdened routes.
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With the introduction of Amazon into many offices, you're
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hopeful that after the first two mini mail surveys overburdened
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routes was 607080 plus hours will be adjusted.
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This is we're we're past hopeful this is to the point of lawsuit.
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This is this you know I I'll say this in in context OK folks this
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is to the point of mismanagement on an international level.
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It it's just it it pisses me off that we can't strike.
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Many people can't afford to go out on the strike, but the fact
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of the matter is can do without management in our local offices
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every day. They can't do without us, and we
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ought to be swinging that hammer.
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That's what I would be doing. Wouldn't be hopeful.
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Seven months. I wouldn't.
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I'd give them 30 days and then I'd have filed. 3 days later I'd
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have filed again and again and again every 30 days.
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It matches their pattern, though, because they filed that
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one before. Three months after carrier,
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55,000 carriers didn't get paid. Took them three months to file
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that one. It's it's inexcusable.
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It it really is that you know our leader is hopeful.
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You know this leader would have told you I'm pissed.
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I wouldn't have said hopeful. I I'd have said I'm pissed that
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the past administration didn't do anything earlier.
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I asked they. Would be held up for they.
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They would have to be held to be failure to duly represent the
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craft. And The thing is, is with the
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interim adjustments, I mean that's what you know prior to
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Rex that was your bank time, that was your, you know, you add
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so many boxes or you vacate so many boxes.
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So now we're waiting on this because I it's unfair to some of
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these routes that have growth and I'm not talking about the
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overburden that are already overburdened right now.
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That's the totally different entity in itself at this point
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with cutting, with cutting of the overburden routes.
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But the interim adjustments could make a huge difference
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with some of these smaller routes that have the growth, but
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now they're but have as it's been so far, they've had to wait
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for six months to the next mini mail survey to see if it did
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anything for them. Now this way, you know, get this
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going that way we can properly be evaluated throughout the
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whole year rather than having to wait six months.
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And you know, fingers crossed that it works out and maybe we
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don't go in overburdened. We'll at least have know what's
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going on with our routes. I think it's ridiculous that
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they waited seven months to file.
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Honestly, I really do. I mean, right, the 30 days, I,
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you know, I could see where Bill's coming from on that maybe
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90 days. At 90 days I would have been
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like no, you know, we're, we're following those.
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You have this, we need to do this.
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We have already had the third mini Mail survey you know people
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have. Madam Vice President, I disagree
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with you. You've had 12 years to get this
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shit going. 30 days. 90 days. Forget it. 30 days.
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Sorry, Madam Vice President. That's OK.
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And that's where we can agree to disagree, you know?
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So he goes on to explain that they had gone over everything
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and told the Postal Service they supported the worksheet, so on
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and so forth and goes over the course of the next several
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months. We inquired with the Postal
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Service on multiple occasions when the interim adjustments
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were going to take place. So Kristen, would this be, we're
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going to talk with them And if they aren't willing to talk,
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we'll turn around and talk again.
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And if they don't talk to us, we'll walk out of the room,
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stop, turn around and go back in and talk some more.
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Absolutely not. That's where, you know, like
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Bill said 30 days, I said 90 days, but that's where that
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time, within that 90 days, let's test this and make sure it
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works. And if it's working and it ain't
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in place, then yeah, I'm going to file right away not all this.
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Well, we're going to be helpful and we're going to go back and
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talk because I haven't started it yet.
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And oh, let's go back and talk. No, no, there's no going backing
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and talking and going back and talk and going back and talk.
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It's like let's get this done, let's do this and get it out
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there because it needs to be done.
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You know you're harming your workforce by not having it in
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place. And with this calculator, they
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have alleged calculator they have readily available.
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Does anybody know of any offices that have been adjusted, cut,
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squared off, whatever you want to call it.
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I have yet to hear anybody say that it's been implemented
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across the country. So if anybody in our listening
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audience or, you know, through the course of the week listen to
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the podcast, let us know. Contact us, because I've not
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heard of any office yet. I know we have one listener who
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may join us later if she's up to it, that she knows that her
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route is supposed to be finalized cut by Friday, so it
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would start under the new pay period Saturday, so when she
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gets back into the office tomorrow, she'll see where
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they're at. There's one saying June 2nd
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instead we we were told a month ago and still nothing.
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Yeah. So he turns around and goes.
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I let the postal, Postal Service know that this was unacceptable
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and once again was advised they were going to move forward.
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But as is all too common with the Postal Service management,
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the interim adjustment worksheet still has not been put into use.
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There's your talking. And it didn't work.
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So we went back and talked some more again.
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Let's let's keep talking because you know that gets a lot
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accomplished. You know, and and they're
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they're going to implement it. But they didn't give a time
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frame, did they? That's where you have to nail
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them down on that. When, where ow, what are the
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answers we need to know. Yes, we we need to know
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specifics, not generalities. I want to know so I can as so if
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I was the Director of Stewart operations I want to know so I
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can contact the stewards in those offices, the DRS and the
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ADRS and let them know hey these offices and these routes are
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getting the interim adjustment as a test to start or here they
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come and same with the route cuts.
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These, these are the ones we're going after, help help us in
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these offices to make sure it gets implemented properly,
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something like that, he says. It has become apparent that we
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should not and cannot wait any longer.
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Bill, he couldn't wait any longer.
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Why not One month, Seven months? Nine months?
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Does it affect your pay, Don? No, it doesn't.
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And that's why you don't give a rat's ass about the craft.
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Your national board determined carriers have waited long enough
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and we filed a national level grievance.
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It is our position that the employer implemented a new
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compensation system without an appropriate tool to provide
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interim adjustments. Hang on a second, we were at
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SWAC and also Kristen and you and I were at SWAC.
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Kristen and I were at mid states.
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Didn't he say that Rex was pretty much perfected at that
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point, but yet now he's saying that they implemented it without
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an appropriate tool, so they agreed to a system that wasn't
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ready and allowed them to implement it when it wasn't
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ready. I believe that would be the
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proper analysis of that statement, yes.
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It wasn't ready and we let them go ahead anyway.
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And you're surprised by this? How?
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Oh, I didn't say I was surprised.
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I'm just saying that's what I got from that statement.
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And of course the comment, the comments that he made at both
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conventions that I attended and the ones that you both attended
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with me. Our grievance demands the
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employer immediately comply with the provisions of Articles 92C10
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and that these, those carriers who have been harmed, be made
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whole retroactively for all deliveries and miles added since
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the initial implementation of Rex with interest to be paid
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interest with interest to be paid at the federal judgement
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rate. So that's the top level they're
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asking for is for retroactive payment for all miles and
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deliveries added since Rex and interest before it's.
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Settled and penalties and penalties.
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There's no penalties on there. I know it would have been.
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But I'm trying to figure out here what the whole point was
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putting that out over the airwaves when they haven't
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settled it yet. That's their work on being
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somewhat transparent and letting them know that, letting the
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craft know that they are trying to do stuff.
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But wait, wasn't there a Step 4 recently that they filed that
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they didn't tell us what they were asking for to give carriers
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and they did tell us about it in a video?
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I don't know. Was there?
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I believe there was, if if we recall correctly, because I
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believe there was a Step 4 filed for something that management
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was, I'm looking, give me just a moment.
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Honestly, I think they need to to to do a Step 4 on mapping
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being done correctly and it's because it's not in all the
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offices. Yes, there are a good amount of
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offices that are doing their mapping correctly.
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But I am still hearing every day, every week, every month
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about offices. The carriers don't get to sit
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down every month to do their mapping, or they don't.
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They haven't done mapping since they did their first initial
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mapping two years ago, or they. Or longer.
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Or only update it just before a mini mail survey.
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Where? Where's the backing from the
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union on that? Or where's the radar reports
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every day, the PT, Rs every day? Exactly.
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Every day. Not when you get to it Every
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day. And not just during the Minnie
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Mouse survey every day. Where is the Step 4 on
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management falsifying the mapping?
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That's what I'm saying. No, no.
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Use the word falsifying because that is what management is doing
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is falsifying. And anybody caught falsifying a
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government document? As a Union, we should demand
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their immediate removal from the United States Postal Service,
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not transfer removal. They're like on that one.
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From what I from what I've seen of getting management removed,
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it takes an arbitrator to to remove a manager because
28:46
management doesn't bother to manage their managers.
28:50
So before we finish this video out, he goes on.
28:55
We have given the Postal Service ample time to do the right
28:58
thing, but their continued lack of follow through has once again
29:02
left us no choice but to take this action and include a
29:05
retroactive component to the remedy so no carrier is left
29:10
behind. And we all know how long it
29:15
takes to get retro pay for anything from the United States
29:19
Postal Service. So if you are affected by this
29:25
and it does go through and you're due some retro pay, good
29:31
luck seeing that within the next 12 months.
29:34
Well, if there's a new president in town, it'd be file Step 4 for
29:38
failure to comply every 30 days, right, Bill?
29:41
You bet. I'm going to chop down the
29:44
entire Brazilian forest and flood them with newspapers every
29:48
day, grievances after grievance after grievance.
29:51
Then I'm going to grieve the grievances and then we're going
29:55
to go. Then we're going to go to the
29:56
National Labor Relations Board in regards to jeopardizing
29:59
people's jobs, their mental health, their, their
30:04
psychological stability, because this shit's driving people
30:08
crazy. It really is.
30:10
Oh, it is I You know when you you're talking to your carrier
30:14
friends from other cities, States and whatnot on the phone
30:19
and they're nearly in tears because of what they're going
30:21
through in their office and you just it breaks your heart.
30:25
It really does. I mean, my office is not perfect
30:29
either, don't get me wrong, but wow.
30:33
I had to almost laugh and cry at the same time.
30:36
Today a gentleman posted that he was interviewed for a position.
30:42
He was hired. It took him 4 1/2 months to go
30:47
through the entire process and he had to wait a month After
30:51
everything all said and done before his start date and then
30:55
on his start date the postmaster advised him his POV wasn't large
30:59
enough. He says I'm here to get a job,
31:04
I'm here to make money and need to work and for almost six
31:10
months they put me through this and then come up and say my POV
31:13
is not large enough. Nobody explained that to him
31:17
whatsoever through the entire process.
31:20
No they don't. What a failure.
31:25
And then they want to rag on newer Rcas who are assigned to
31:28
government vehicle routes. And because you have one POV in
31:32
the office in the route and well, you have to have apov and
31:35
they'll give them six months and then then they're ragging on
31:38
them. I'm sorry, people #1 new Rcas
31:43
more than likely cannot afford a vehicle that they can deliver
31:47
out of, if you can even find one.
31:49
And I'm not talking about going out and buying a right hand
31:51
drive Jeep. I'm talking about something that
31:53
you can deliver out of, preferably a bench seat or
31:56
having to get a vehicle and getting conversion pedals.
31:59
I mean, that's a big chunk of change.
32:03
And then the upkeep on that as well.
32:05
And I know as a POV driver for nearly nine years, that gets
32:10
expensive, especially as an RCA. And that's where I learned to do
32:14
a lot of my own maintenance on my own.
32:17
I mean, there were days where I was hitting the auto parts store
32:20
when they opened the door at 6:00 AM and grabbing brake parts
32:24
and change it out in my driveway so I could be to work at 7:30 in
32:27
the morning. You know, I've been there.
32:29
I mean, that is a lot. And they don't explain that part
32:33
of the job at all. And I think, you know, yes, you
32:40
have to have a vehicle that you can deliver out of I completely,
32:44
you know, I get that it's in the job description on the job
32:47
posting, but they don't explain what that entails.
32:55
Or the the one where Oh well you need a backup vehicle for your
32:59
POV. What?
33:01
No, I I need to have two vehicles for the purpose of
33:05
delivering mail. Do you have two trucks available
33:07
for each route? No, sorry, kiss my ass folks.
33:12
Because you know, you're you're right.
33:15
It's hard enough to get one vehicle suitable cross drive or
33:19
do the pedals and you know bench seats.
33:21
You just, you just put a piece of wood across there so that you
33:24
can slide back and forth, you know, with little wheels on
33:28
there for your ass. But two vehicles?
33:31
Give me a break. Oh, I know.
33:34
And I mean. This also goes.
33:36
This goes back to proper Academy training materials that haven't
33:42
been updated in over five years. And now, yeah, and we we got the
33:49
update on that at mid states, I mean it's in the works.
33:52
Yes, finally. With the vice president that
33:55
actually is working on it. Yes, because that vice President
33:59
and myself who is running against him and we're we're on
34:02
decent terms but you know personal wise you know he he
34:07
feels our opinions and how we feel towards our CAS are quite
34:11
similar. And so yeah, I mean that
34:13
definitely I5 years, why it's taken this long, I'm not going
34:18
to touch that one right now. But you know and that's at no
34:22
fault to our current VP, he's only been there for a year going
34:26
on. He was he was only an executive
34:28
committeeman prior to this, correct?
34:31
So he did not have the ability to do the work he's doing now as
34:34
an executive committeeman. Yes.
34:37
So that falls on the heads of the former VP who is currently
34:40
the President. So anyways, and that's all, I'm
34:44
going to touch on that one. Let's finish this out.
34:47
I have one more sentence left, he lastly says.
34:53
I remain committed to keeping you posted about this issue and
34:57
other contract administration issues and on collective
35:01
bargaining as we continue to fight on your behalf.
35:06
Trying to carefully phrase this, let me put this succinctly and
35:11
please do not edit this, OK? Are you fucking kidding me?
35:18
Nobody has faith in the National Board.
35:21
Nobody believes that you're acting in our best interests.
35:25
Nobody cares of all the file you spew at us in these videos
35:32
because we don't trust you. We don't believe you and we're
35:37
sick and tired of the bullshit and the rant and do not edit
35:46
that. Perfectly said, Bill.
35:51
Perfectly said. You got a man who stands up
35:55
there at 1st and tells us that rural carriers have had it too
35:59
good for too long. Tells us that carriers are now
36:04
getting off closer to their evaluation times than ever
36:08
before. One of the biggest benefits of
36:11
the rural craft is no longer available, which was getting off
36:15
ahead of your evaluation a few hours early because you knew
36:19
that come Christmas time, prior to the three weeks that we get
36:23
overtime guaranteed That extra 2 hours during the summer was a
36:29
big benefit to the craft as a whole.
36:34
And they took that away from us and this man stood up there and
36:39
told us that this was the best thing to happen to the rural
36:42
crafts and sliced bread. He's telling us that the
36:46
delivery for America plan is gold, should be something we
36:52
should look forward to and change has to happen or we'll
36:57
get left behind. And then he turns around and
36:59
says so no carrier is left behind, even though he just told
37:03
carriers at mid states that if you either change with the times
37:08
or you get left behind. You know, I get accused of
37:15
misquoting him quite a lot. But the key to it is, is that is
37:21
also the feeling that I get from the words that he is speaking.
37:27
He turns around and says one thing and then does another.
37:32
I felt that several times between what he said at SWAC
37:36
versus what he said at mid States and versus what he says
37:41
on these videos. I don't know if you can agree
37:44
with me on that or not though compared to what he said at SWAC
37:47
or not. But that is that is how I feel
37:50
about it, is that there is not something intrinsically honest
37:55
about what he tells carriers versus what he tells management.
38:01
Did you agree, Bill? No, you're you're 100% right.
38:04
There's no sincerity whatsoever because of the fact that there
38:08
is no real concern for us. He can't empathize with our
38:14
situation because of the fact that his route is 320 miles away
38:18
from where he lives in California.
38:20
His route is in an office so small that, oh, we we can't, you
38:24
know, bring his down to a 43. We don't have the office space
38:27
or the casing equipment to allocate for, you know, the
38:31
cuts. I mean, I hate to say, yeah,
38:35
it's a load of horseshit, but horseshit, there's plenty of
38:40
facilities that I know that have trailers where they have
38:43
carriers working out of because of the fact that they don't have
38:46
sufficient office space in in Don's office where he's padding
38:51
his high threes for his retirement from the post office,
38:55
they they won't do the cuts because insufficient office
38:58
space. Everything that they do is in
39:02
their own interest. It's not in our interest
39:04
whatsoever, like you said. I mean he he's double speaking
39:08
left and right from one format to the other and it's of their
39:13
own self-interest. It's placating the masses with,
39:17
you know, just I I can't help but say kiss ass, you know,
39:21
speak. Because you know he he wants to
39:24
say, oh, look what we've done. Well, you've done nothing for
39:28
us. So do me a favor.
39:32
Stop making the videos. Stop wasting our time.
39:36
You know it takes me back to the talking about people who don't
39:39
pay dues and how he tried so hard at mid states to get the
39:46
group to cheer for him, Talking about non dues paying members,
39:53
calling them freeloaders. And he paused.
39:56
He did a pregnant pause and nobody applauded, nobody cheered
40:00
or anything. He goes, I wasn't going to say
40:03
it, but I'm going to say it anyway.
40:04
Scabs to get the cheers from the crowd.
40:08
That right there to me tells me he's not concerned with the
40:12
craft, he's only concerned with the amount of money coming into
40:16
the union and he will do anything.
40:21
To get your applause, even if it means using a term that means
40:30
people crossing a picket line, and that is the modern
40:35
definition of it on the basis of striking workers.
40:42
I'm still waiting, Don. Are you going to call for a
40:45
strike since you continue to use the word scabs?
40:49
He's just monetizing the union. In regards to the $17 million we
40:54
could generate if everybody joined, what what about the fact
40:58
that you know you have 17,000,000 there you have $17
41:01
million that actually represents individuals whose concerns
41:05
should be on forefront of your mind.
41:07
I mean that is the reason you're there not to represent the
41:12
dollars, not these. We can go out and buy another
41:15
$1,000,000 house in Alexandria, or, you know, pick up your
41:18
expenses while you're travelling and getting your your diem.
41:24
But you know, to represent the craft, all the craft.
41:33
Yeah, because you can't just go with the majority.
41:37
You can't just go with the bell curves, can't just look at
41:41
spreadsheets and know how the craft is doing.
41:44
You have to get out there and take a look.
41:47
You have to be down with the boots on the ground.
41:51
Because when push comes to shove, the people on the ground
41:57
are the ones who matter the most in this situation.
42:02
And what you've done is alienate enough of them to pull their
42:05
dues to get us to $17 million outside.
42:12
You've lost enough people that way by not listening to the
42:18
craft, and now you're trying to tell them you're listening to
42:21
them and tell them that you're fighting on their behalf because
42:25
you're afraid of what's coming. His biggest problem is that
42:31
whether you're a union member or not, he represents the entire
42:36
craft, the entire body of the rule carrier craft, And to be
42:43
speaking down to people like that, I don't like condescending
42:47
unless I'm talking to management.
42:49
And then the other problem of it is, like you said James, you
42:52
know you're looking at numbers, you're looking at 17,000,000,
42:55
you're looking at 240 knowledgeable union members left
42:59
SWAC, but that's OK because we signed more new hires up to make
43:04
up the difference. You can't look at the graphs,
43:07
just like management can't sit there and be studying their
43:10
charge and doing their files and getting their reports and does
43:14
nothing to make the job equitable, efficient or
43:21
enjoyable. Why should people mean short of
43:25
working in cesspools, why should people not enjoy going to work?
43:33
I agree. At least they're getting.
43:34
At least they're getting paid to deal with shit Or not.
43:40
You know, I love my job, but I love it more once I get out of
43:43
the office. And that.
43:46
It it's it, you know, if I could do my job without having to deal
43:50
with management that I have and I could just get in there, case
43:53
my mail up if my parcel if I didn't have to, wait for the
43:56
clerks to sort the parcels and twiddle my thumbs and what not.
44:01
And listen to management ranting about one thing or another and
44:03
nitpicking this or putting a target on this RC as back.
44:07
Or, you know, the stupid petty BS in the office stuff.
44:13
You know, it would be. I would love it even more.
44:16
But man, the minute I'm I hit that departure route and I'm out
44:19
that door. I am.
44:22
I'm. I'm golden.
44:23
It It's so much better. Oh, frequency put up about the
44:30
OR to visit the Midwest over the Tornadoes or is Hawaii just
44:33
super special? Well, there there was what like
44:37
9 carriers in Hawaii that were affected.
44:40
I I don't know that there was more than a couple, 100 people
44:42
affected through the Miss West. I mean, come on, let's be
44:45
reasonable. Where would you rather go?
44:49
Hey, do you guys want to talk about an SNDC real quick?
44:52
Well Speaking of comments, Speaking of comments while you
44:56
set that up, one person posted I got some overburdened routes in
45:00
my office that our POOM has forbidden giving help to.
45:03
Now they are in 2080 trouble already and Postmaster saying
45:07
they're going to have to force them to take leave without pay
45:10
to stay under. I'm about to get all kinds of
45:13
steward practice here shortly. Yes, you are.
45:17
You're going to get so much practice with that bill.
45:20
What's he going to be doing the whole time?
45:23
He's all file, file, file and smile.
45:26
Matter of fact, won't have to run his route.
45:29
He'll be so busy filing, so. All right, Kristen, go ahead and
45:37
hear your introduction. Yes, yes, welcome Lynn.
45:41
Hi. How are you?
45:42
We're good. Can you hear me all right?
45:46
Absolutely. Oh, this is weird.
45:53
I don't know where to start. I do want to say happy Mother's
45:55
Day to everyone. It's listening.
45:57
And Kristen. Thank you.
46:02
When we moved to the SNDCI was trying so hard to be positive.
46:08
You know, I try to stay positive and see the good and everything
46:14
and we get there. And you know, it was a little
46:17
chaotic at first, but it's pretty smooth now for you know,
46:22
we're where we park and where we.
46:24
It's a lot of walking for sure, but when we moved for my route,
46:31
it added four hours and we moved.
46:34
The first day there was February 24th and now this past week it
46:41
did. It did up my route to A48K and
46:46
now I make too much and higher level management's coming in
46:50
cotton. He was supposed to be there I
46:53
think 2 weeks ago, but he went to the SNDCA bit north of me,
47:01
higher, higher upstate New York and did that whole S&D first.
47:07
Now he's on to ours and he walked up to me Thursday, the
47:12
higher level management guy and I said, you know my route, it's
47:17
not really overburdened. I'm done by maybe, you know 233
47:22
o'clock, maybe a little bit later on Mondays but it's not
47:26
really overburdened. I said in the next mini mail
47:30
survey it's I know how the. I know a bit about how Rex
47:37
works. I said I know it's going to lose
47:39
2 to 3 hours in the next mini mail survey and he looked at me
47:44
and he said not my problem and when I go in tomorrow, I'm sure
47:48
I'll hear some what they're going to do different but I have
47:52
other than that I don't really, I don't really know what to
47:55
expect. I don't know what else to talk
47:59
about. So we have a question for you
48:02
from the listeners. Yeah.
48:05
Do you do you share a case in your SNDC?
48:07
I've seen rumors about cases that had removable labels so
48:10
that several routes could share cases.
48:13
No, no sharing cases that I've seen.
48:18
And if if they were file, file, file on that because we're not
48:22
supposed to share cases. Yeah, there's actually probably
48:28
at least 15, maybe 20 more cases that don't have any labels on
48:33
them yet because there was another town that was supposed
48:36
to move in and they keep delaying it because I guess they
48:40
have their own, the city carriers there have their own
48:44
extra, They have like extra details in their in their
48:46
contract that says they have to have their own parking and
48:51
there's not enough parking for them.
48:53
So they keep pushing them off every six months, pushing them
48:56
off. So I don't know what's going on
48:59
with that. But what's the average when you
49:03
when you walk into the facility, how far of a walk do you have to
49:07
go to your case? I don't know exactly I'm from.
49:11
When I get to work, I need 10 minutes to walk from the parking
49:17
lot to where my scanner is, to get to my case, to get my badge
49:24
sign in. It's it's massive.
49:31
How many routes in general have grown with the conversion to the
49:36
relocation to the SDC? Every single one of them.
49:40
I'm certain There's some routes. I I talk to everybody.
49:46
I try to, you know, be friendly with with everybody and I've
49:50
heard of one. One of the people there told me
49:53
that they gained 6 hours by with the booth.
49:58
Yeah, it's. That leads me, yeah, it leads me
50:00
back to the question of what are you saving, you know, cost wise?
50:05
Yeah, it it there's some positive with that.
50:10
And I don't know how they're saving money, but in my old
50:14
office we would have to wait. We'd get 2 truck runs or three
50:19
truck runs and I'd be in there. I I like to go in and I do the
50:23
least I have to in the office. I like to get in there and get
50:26
out at the SNDCI, go in there. Sometimes this package sorting
50:32
machine is still running, but it's not often and I can.
50:37
I can be out of there in an hour, maybe an maybe an hour and
50:42
a half and I'm out on the road. I don't want to be in there.
50:46
It's nice to have everything ready, but it's massive and it's
50:50
just I am I am super upset with the cuts because my root does
50:54
not need to be caught and. They don't care.
50:57
They don't care. No.
50:59
And everybody every I was understanding with him when he
51:03
came back at me with that, not my problem.
51:05
I said OK, I understand. One of the other ladies in
51:08
there, she, she told him it was complete bullshit.
51:13
And everybody's, everybody, everybody in there that's
51:17
getting caught is, is not wanting it.
51:20
That's what I don't understand. They're not going to the
51:22
offices, these smaller offices that are begging for the cuts.
51:27
And they're, they're, they can't get back until eight, 9:00 at
51:30
night. They're coming to the SNDC's
51:32
where nobody wants it, nobody wants the cuts.
51:35
Are all the routes in the SNDC government vehicles or are there
51:39
still POV routes there? I know of one POV route, but I
51:44
think it's highway contract. Other than that, it's just LOVS
51:49
and the mattresses. OK.
51:53
There's still room in there. There's still room for more
51:55
routes in there. There's a lot.
51:58
There's a lot of room for more routes.
52:01
The trouble is the parking. In our situation, there's not
52:11
much room anywhere unless they there's talk.
52:17
There's actually a baseball local baseball stadium next door
52:21
and they've talked about using that parking lot in the
52:25
offseason, but in the summertime, I mean, they
52:29
wouldn't be able to use it because it's busy over there,
52:33
so. Sounds like, as usual, they
52:36
didn't plan everything out before they made stuff happen.
52:40
Yeah, I I did hear something about that.
52:44
They bought a couple properties of places that are to be
52:48
demolished to turn it into a parking lot.
52:51
I also heard that out front of the post office where I haven't
52:57
even drove out front because it's the way I come in, I come
53:00
into the back. I guess there's like an area
53:04
that has a lot of grass that they said they're going to turn
53:08
into a parking lot, but I haven't seen any of that.
53:15
What bothers me about this, this whole thing, is that if you're a
53:19
48K, and I mean technically you know at at the 57.36 it and
53:25
you're not going over your evaluation, I believe you should
53:29
have the option to be able to stay at A48K.
53:34
The old practice of the 48K and 40 sevens being overburdened has
53:39
kind of gone out the door. But when you're talking about
53:42
the 606572 and 84 hour routes, there is there.
53:47
Therein lies the problem of, you know, being overburdened. 48 K
53:51
and you're doing it under evaluation to me, does not
53:54
constitute being overburdened. You know, that may be arguable,
53:59
you know arguable as far as individual situations, but in in
54:04
most general circumstances, if you're a 48K you're under
54:08
evaluation, you should be allowed to elect and stay at the
54:12
48. Ki agree, like I'm not
54:16
overburdened, you know. And I know they're going to cut
54:21
me say I'm a 48K, they're going to cut me down to a 43.
54:25
Like the contract says, my roots going to go down to AJII think
54:30
it may be a 40K but I when it comes down to A43K by May 18th
54:40
is do you think it would be possible if I lose again and
54:44
then I lose again because they cut it too much?
54:47
Would I have any kind of grievance that they didn't cut
54:50
it fairly because they didn't wait, you know, and see see two
54:58
mini mail survey evaluations back-to-back that are in
55:03
overburden status. I think that shows more true
55:07
where it would be with the with two in a row, not just one right
55:13
after the move. You know, I don't know.
55:17
Prior to the move, what was your evaluation?
55:21
Originally before the Rex, I was a 40K.
55:26
When Rex first came in I turned into a 40J and then I went to
55:35
A41K. With the move it turned my just
55:46
with mileage and the traffic control points.
55:52
I went up to A45K and then the survey with the move it upped me
55:59
to A48K. So I've I've heard this before
56:03
about SNDCS. How does how accessible is
56:08
management has? How has your management changed
56:10
things like that? My postmaster is actually he's
56:14
been there since probably at least six months before the
56:19
move. He went there to help set up and
56:21
everything. I do see.
56:23
We see a lot of management my my direct supervisor, he's honestly
56:28
been good to me. Any everything that I've put in
56:32
for vacation, for, for the union stuff for for state and National
56:37
Convention, he's approved. There is quite a bit of Subs
56:42
coming in and they are throwing them.
56:45
They were throwing them around. A few have quit.
56:49
Some are OK with it, but we do have a, we do have two stewards
56:55
now we just it was about two weeks ago that we had a steward
56:59
election and have a chief steward and another steward
57:03
because there's over over 50 carriers in there.
57:07
So they're doing good. Last week, the beginning of the
57:15
week, I'm pretty sure the Steward put in five grievances
57:18
and it was about the mapping because you know the issue that
57:22
is everywhere management is doing the mapping without the
57:28
carriers and I don't I I think they've already had that
57:33
grievance and then they they continue to do it.
57:38
But I don't know I I bug the management.
57:41
I'm like when am I going to do my mapping And I don't a lot of
57:46
other carriers don't do that. They they want the manager to
57:49
come to them, which they should, but I bugged to make sure I can
57:54
map so I stay on them. That you should.
57:59
You do that end of shift. Yes, yes.
58:03
OK. I forgot the.
58:06
Facilitator that helps yet? Or do you do just do it with the
58:09
management? My direct supervisor has helped
58:11
me with it. The second time I mapped, I got
58:17
in there. He wasn't there that day, had a
58:23
floater management floater, I guess they call him.
58:26
He signed me into it and I started working on it, started
58:30
doing my plots and he had went and then he had to go home for
58:34
the day and I wasn't done so it didn't.
58:36
I I sat there for, I don't know, it was probably close to an hour
58:41
redoing my plots because they were not right.
58:45
And I went to save it or upload it, whatever it is.
58:51
And that guy had left for the day and it needed to have his
58:55
passcode put in. So all that it was pretty much
58:57
wasted is nothing was saved. Oh, I got AI got a bug again to
59:03
do my mapping. Well, actually, actually, once
59:07
you've put them in there, even if you don't, even if you don't
59:10
save, they should still be in there when you go back in to
59:13
finally finalize it at the end. Oh, but what about the ones that
59:17
I changed from vacant to active to active?
59:25
Or the opposite? You think they would have still
59:28
saved? They'll save, it's just not
59:31
going to submit it. So if you go before the next
59:34
round of mapping, if you can get in there to finish it to submit
59:38
it, then instead of downloading it, you're just going to open it
59:44
because downloading it would be any any changes through the edit
59:48
book with AMS is where you want to download it.
59:51
So you know the once a month. At the end of the month is when
59:54
you want to hit you know have them download it.
59:56
That way you've got all the new changes from the edit book
59:59
submission for the beginning of the month.
1:00:01
Now if you have to walk away and leave it and finish it at
1:00:04
another day. You just would hit the open tab
1:00:08
and not the and not redownload it because if you re download it
1:00:11
it's going to wipe it out, but if you just open it, it'll come
1:00:14
pop up with all the changes. OK.
1:00:17
So your work was not wasted. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:21
And I mean it was still an hour and a half of end of shift
1:00:25
duties, you know the not not the chief steward, but the steward,
1:00:30
the second steward that she's brand new.
1:00:33
She hasn't even been to training yet.
1:00:34
She is trying to be a mapping facilitator and she's great.
1:00:40
I hope she gets to, but I heard that that's up to management
1:00:43
whether they can allow you to do that or not.
1:00:48
Yeah, it is I I was mapping facilitator as an RCA and since
1:00:54
I became regular, she kind of took it away from me and is
1:00:57
doing it herself unless it's mine.
1:00:59
Then she just logs me in and I sit down and do my own.
1:01:03
But. Which sucks.
1:01:05
I mean, she could just easily just, you know, I could come in,
1:01:08
get the route ready, go under AP code, and then be there when the
1:01:12
carriers start coming back. You know, it's not of a deal.
1:01:16
I don't understand that why I feel like there should be 1
1:01:20
carrier that knows that could be facilitator.
1:01:24
It's not. It shouldn't be management's
1:01:27
choice whether there is one or not.
1:01:29
There should be a carrier that you know.
1:01:32
That's just how I feel, but. Oh, and I agree completely.
1:01:38
You know, it doesn't hurt to have a carrier that knows the
1:01:40
mapping system that can do it alongside the carriers because
1:01:45
not all carriers trust management obviously.
1:01:47
And I've heard some pretty swanky stuff going on.
1:01:50
Even with carriers that are there with management to the
1:01:55
point they don't even let them sit down next to them.
1:01:57
They got to stand up behind them and you just kind of point where
1:02:00
stuff goes instead of actually being able to get in there and
1:02:04
see the map and and pinpoint it correctly.
1:02:07
So no, I I completely agree that it doesn't hurt to have a
1:02:10
carrier as a facilitator. Exactly.
1:02:14
I've heard carriers tell me that management won't allow them to
1:02:19
do it. They've only done still only to
1:02:21
this day. They've only mapped once I push
1:02:24
hard. So they usually it's not they
1:02:28
give, they give me a date. OK, we're going to map.
1:02:32
I'm going to map this week on Tuesday.
1:02:34
It is. It's a lot of, there's 38
1:02:37
carriers there. So when when our shop steward,
1:02:43
our chief steward got that grievance, he did say he came
1:02:48
back to me and he said, well, management said it's it's all
1:02:52
settled. He's going to make a schedule of
1:02:57
everybody's mapping times, which is good, so.
1:03:02
Proactive supervisor. Yeah, I mean, he had to file the
1:03:08
the grievance to do it, but he's pretty good.
1:03:10
He's worked with me, you know, so far.
1:03:16
He calls me a troublemaker, but. When you crowd.
1:03:21
What? I don't like being called a
1:03:27
troublemaker. I don't want to cause trouble.
1:03:29
I just want things done right, you know?
1:03:33
The problem of it is that if you don't call them on the carpet
1:03:36
about this, you know then they'll just walk all over you
1:03:40
and it's not a matter of being a troublemaker when you stand up
1:03:43
for yourself and your rights. Yeah.
1:03:46
That's being it's called, you know, an informed carrier.
1:03:50
Yeah, I try. It's hard because every minute,
1:03:55
I mean you guys, you guys help me out a lot, I'm telling you.
1:04:00
But everything changes so much. One, one minute you're hurt.
1:04:04
You hear one thing. You can ask two people in the
1:04:08
same office 10 different questions and you'll get you'll
1:04:11
get 100 different answers. You know it's.
1:04:16
Opinions and assholes. We covered that in the very
1:04:21
beginning. Yes.
1:04:23
We did, yeah. It's just and and.
1:04:29
Yeah, for for the record, I I'm not a perpetual troublemaker.
1:04:34
I try to resolve things, you know, in the intelligent adult
1:04:39
type manner. For most cases, yeah.
1:04:43
When you push the buttons, then I become a formidable individual
1:04:47
and and people just, they don't like my presence, you know, and
1:04:53
I usually win my way. But the thing of it is, why do I
1:04:55
have to go to that point? Why can't we talk about this,
1:04:59
you know, and and resolve it, you know, amicably.
1:05:01
But hey, you, you want to choose the fight, Maybe Bill's stepping
1:05:06
up. I'm sure people in your office
1:05:12
are super thankful for you. And scared.
1:05:21
All you hear is, oh God, what's Bill going to do now?
1:05:26
Yeah. How many rural routes do you
1:05:29
have in the SNDC? 38.
1:05:36
How do the SNDCS affect the union organization?
1:05:39
Did any of your county units get completely moved into it?
1:05:43
What? So did your with the moving into
1:05:49
the SNDC, how did that affect like county units and things
1:05:52
like that? Did they bring in outside from
1:05:54
the single county or? Oh no, it's all it's all one
1:05:59
county. OK.
1:06:01
So it didn't affect, did it, Did it?
1:06:03
Was it the entire county that moved in there or just parts of
1:06:05
it? Not the entire county.
1:06:08
There's still quite a few. I'm not sure I've heard some
1:06:13
other offices are going to move in.
1:06:15
I'm not sure if they're in the same county or not.
1:06:20
This is in relation to the question there in the stage that
1:06:25
you know you have to join the new county that you moved into.
1:06:29
And according to state charters, you don't have to change your
1:06:33
county just because of where you're located at.
1:06:36
It's your delivery office that you're basically assigned to in
1:06:39
regards to your county assignment also.
1:06:43
Yes. Check your yes, check your state
1:06:45
charter for that. Yeah, I hadn't heard that.
1:06:49
Yeah, it should go by your zip code.
1:06:50
Whatever. Your zip code is what county?
1:06:56
All right. Thank you, Lynn.
1:06:58
We appreciate you coming in with a little insight on the S&D CS.
1:07:02
Yeah. Any more questions or no?
1:07:06
Any more questions for Lynn guys?
1:07:08
Do they have nice break rooms with ice and water machines?
1:07:12
We do have a ice machine, refrigerator, a soda machine, a
1:07:18
snack machine, no coffee machine yet.
1:07:21
There's a sink. It's extremely hot.
1:07:27
It's uncomfortably hot. That's part of why I get out of
1:07:29
there quick, 'cause it's for me anyway.
1:07:33
It's unbearably hot. Even the end of February it was
1:07:39
hot like they have, I don't know where they have.
1:07:42
It's a boiler system I guess. So they can't really.
1:07:47
They say they can't. Regulate it.
1:07:50
Yeah. Yeah.
1:07:52
Thank you for that. Well we we have the we have the
1:07:57
same problem in our office. When it gets hot in the office
1:07:59
and the carriers go and prop open the the double swing doors
1:08:03
which lets in more cool air which triggers the boiler to
1:08:06
work more. It's like oaks, you're defeating
1:08:09
the purpose here. You know, yeah.
1:08:14
You guys have ample dock space. That was another question that
1:08:17
popped up. The main dock that they've
1:08:20
always used is busy, but we actually have to where we park
1:08:29
our personal vehicles. It's a it's a completely
1:08:32
different lot. There's a bunch of LOVS parked
1:08:35
up there, so we have to push our conveyance just as far as to
1:08:41
where our vehicles are parked. Out in the back parking lot, up
1:08:46
a hill, out the door, out out some swinging doors.
1:08:49
We push our conveyance right out in the parking lot you love.
1:08:54
That in the winter. Yeah, Hopefully they plow well
1:08:59
because we haven't had a we we got lucky we didn't get 4 feet
1:09:05
of snow in March like we have like we did a couple years ago.
1:09:10
I'm just going to say this if if there's snow on the on the
1:09:14
pavement, 1767 unsafe to to haul equipment out to my vehicle with
1:09:20
that much snow on the ground or ice or anything like that.
1:09:26
Yeah, and it it took quite a while to be pushing.
1:09:29
You got when we got heavy, heavy packages and stuff, it's quite a
1:09:35
lot. It's quite a hill up the up the
1:09:37
ramp to be pushing that stuff. But I'm I'm getting.
1:09:41
I'm used to it now. It's a workout.
1:09:49
Alright guys, go. Ahead a lot of the carriers, A
1:09:54
lot of carriers don't. I I don't even want to say this
1:09:58
because it's sad, but a lot of carriers don't even want to MIP.
1:10:03
I'm like it's once a month. This is your pay, you know you
1:10:08
should do it. It's what they they just want to
1:10:11
get in in the afternoon and they want to go home.
1:10:13
So I don't know what to what to do about that.
1:10:19
There's carriers that come in early still different towns come
1:10:25
in early. I I won't touch anything until I
1:10:29
clock in at 8:00 when I'm supposed to, you know.
1:10:32
You you know you can file a grievance on management allowing
1:10:35
that, right? I.
1:10:39
She's not a troublemaker member. Yeah.
1:10:44
True, but it does affect you in the long run.
1:10:47
It doesn't affect I I I don't like it.
1:10:52
I mean the the travel distance to the vehicles to drive to
1:10:55
carry your conveyance out there. I file agreements on that and
1:10:58
give us a place close to the building that we can load our
1:11:00
vehicles that is sheltered to protect the mail.
1:11:05
Yeah, there's there's a it's. All about you, James.
1:11:12
OK. There's no way there's not
1:11:15
enough room down, but it's it's really not that bad.
1:11:21
I try to see the positive, but I I don't know.
1:11:26
It's not it's not as awful as I thought it would be.
1:11:34
Other than getting caught. The drive on the highway is
1:11:39
pretty scary. You take an LLV on the highway.
1:11:43
Yeah, we are. Braver than I am.
1:11:48
A lot of us, a lot of us have highway driving.
1:11:55
My mind is going blank. I'm like, I have, I have very
1:12:03
anxiety about public speaking. You know, I was president of the
1:12:07
county for three years and I can handle, like, you know, the
1:12:13
local meetings now and have a pretty big voice and can handle
1:12:18
that. But knowing that, who knows how
1:12:22
many people are going to be listening to me talk, I'm, I'm,
1:12:25
I judge myself, I I don't even know if I'll be able to listen
1:12:30
to this episode with myself and listen to myself talk.
1:12:33
I'm like. You're doing fine.
1:12:37
You're only talking to 21 people right now.
1:12:39
That's all you're talking to. There's 21 people.
1:12:42
Yeah, I'm good. At the county meeting for some
1:12:44
places. Yeah, that's pretty let's.
1:12:48
And then the other the other 3000.
1:12:50
Yeah, the other 3000 are gonna listen to you this week.
1:12:53
Yikes. And then we're gonna throw her
1:12:59
up on the big stage at National. Yeah.
1:13:07
Yeah, that's a little intimidating if you're not used
1:13:09
to it, trust me. Oh, I'm scared.
1:13:13
I haven't. I haven't stood up at State yet
1:13:16
because that scares me. But I will this year I and maybe
1:13:21
it'll be. I mean, I shouldn't say, maybe I
1:13:24
should say it will be the same year that I stand up and talk at
1:13:28
State. That I stand up and talk at
1:13:30
National because I got you, Kristen.
1:13:38
She's my roommate for National too, So.
1:13:42
It's just about talking to other carriers, that's all.
1:13:46
But nobody better, Nobody worse. Yeah, that's all it is.
1:13:52
All right, guys. We're going to wind this down
1:13:54
tonight. Thank you, Lynn, for joining us
1:13:56
and giving us a little heads up on an SNDC experience.
1:14:00
We appreciate it. Yeah, you're welcome.
1:14:03
I appreciate it too. Thanks for letting me talk and
1:14:07
I'll talk to you guys again sometime.
1:14:10
Definitely. I hope I did OK.
1:14:13
You did fine. We'll let our listeners.
1:14:18
We'll let our listeners decide and they can post it in the
1:14:20
comments and Kristen will share them with you.
1:14:23
OK, Sounds. Good.
1:14:28
Thank you, guys. All right.
1:14:30
James, any final commentary for tonight?
1:14:35
A lot, but I'll, I'll try to make it short.
1:14:39
You know we do these for the craft because we actually
1:14:45
believe in the craft and are the craft as well.
1:14:49
We do the same job everybody that listens to us does on the
1:14:52
floor. We're regular carriers just like
1:14:55
everybody else, and to see things going the way they are
1:15:03
and the change that we want to make to make it better for
1:15:06
everybody in the craft is the whole reason we're here every
1:15:11
week. We're here because of the craft,
1:15:14
for the craft. And even if you're just starting
1:15:21
out or you've got 30 years of experience, you've got 15 years
1:15:26
as an RCA. Whatever your case is, you are
1:15:30
our brother and sister, whichever you are.
1:15:36
Because at the end of the day, no matter what, we're all in
1:15:40
this together, Bill. Well, like I said, we do this
1:15:47
for the craft. And even my wife begrudgingly
1:15:51
has put off her Mother's Day massage for an hour and a half.
1:15:56
That's the only reason we're here, you know that.
1:15:58
To help educate, listen. You know, that's the one thing
1:16:02
we do better than the National Board.
1:16:04
We'd listen to you. We we appreciate your input.
1:16:08
We try to address your concerns. But we listen because we're in
1:16:13
the same boat as you are. And who better to represent you
1:16:17
than people who are on the ground with you every day?
1:16:21
Instead of these politicians who were just trying to pad their
1:16:24
retirement and giving you his ass platitudes in regards to,
1:16:31
oh, I represent you. I have your interests at heart.
1:16:34
No, you don't. Not even close.
1:16:39
We don't have to do this. We're compelled to do this.
1:16:43
I I sometimes think we're crazy for doing it, but that's OK.
1:16:47
I I've got a good group of crazies with me and I I wouldn't
1:16:52
go anywhere in the battle without them.
1:16:54
And I wouldn't go into this battle National Convention
1:16:58
without everybody who's listening and who contributes to
1:17:02
our podcast, to to the questions, the listener chat and
1:17:06
everything else. This is all about you and we're
1:17:10
part of you. I'll never forget that.
1:17:15
And if I get one more comment about the pink thong, I'm going
1:17:17
to be handing them out at the National Convention.
1:17:23
I will be screen printed bill for President.
1:17:28
Yes, right across the back strip.
1:17:35
Everybody go out and have a good week.
1:17:37
Be safe, be efficient, be professional and make sure that
1:17:41
you get the most important delivery done on time.
1:17:44
At the end of the day, get yourself home to your loved
1:17:47
ones. Be safe.
1:17:48
God bless you all. Thank you guys.
1:17:52
And again, yes, yes, thank you guys and a good thank you out to
1:17:57
Lynn for joining us. And yeah, it this is definitely
1:18:02
about you guys. We wouldn't be doing what we do
1:18:06
if it wasn't for the entire the the carriers of the craft.
1:18:09
We wouldn't be stepping up and running for national offices if
1:18:13
it wasn't for caring so much about every single one of you
1:18:19
out there and every single person within the craft that is
1:18:23
working every day and pushing through the good and the bad
1:18:30
right alongside everybody. And that's, you know, that's
1:18:33
what we're here for. We're here for the entire craft
1:18:35
as a whole and we want everybody to stay safe this week and we
1:18:40
will be back next week. Don't bring me 190.
1:19:04
I want I I don't want to get intimate with the cactus.