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Bonus Episode: Great Disco, New Rose Hotel, and Mission-Driven Bands · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before
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Speaker 1: we get into it, I wanted to fill you in
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Speaker 1: on all the great content as usual we've got going
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Speaker 1: on for you this week here in Disgraceland. We just
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Speaker 1: dropped our brand new episode on the Clash. We've got
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Speaker 1: a Rewind episode coming tomorrow on Studio fifty four. Over
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Speaker 1: in the bad Lands Feed, we've got a Rewind episode
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Speaker 1: from the archive on John Holmes that's in your feed
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Speaker 1: right now, and another on Winona Ryder that's coming later
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Speaker 1: this week as well. Our guy Chris Shifflett from The
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Speaker 1: Foo Fighters has a new episode of his new show
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Speaker 1: Shred with Shifty, featuring guitarist Brent Mason. And over in
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Speaker 1: the Music Lands Stories Feed, that's our fiction show for
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Speaker 1: kids and families, we've got another brand new episode that's
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Speaker 1: coming for you this week as well. All Right, lots
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Speaker 1: to get into, but let's do this bonus episode right now.
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Speaker 1: Got some new stuff I want to talk to you
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Speaker 1: guys about. I'm excited about it. Let's get into it. Hey,
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Speaker 1: discos need a little more disgrace Land in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland The after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard, you dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about,
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Speaker 1: among other things, the Clash at Studio fifty four, and
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Speaker 1: of course your voicemails, your texts, dms and more, and
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Speaker 1: as always, a whole lot of rosie. All right, this goes,
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, all right? What is up? Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the after Party bonus episode. This week in Disgraceland,
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Speaker 1: in our main episode, we released a main, new, brand
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Speaker 1: new episode on the Clash. Band that is near and
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Speaker 1: dear to my heart, and I know it's likely the
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Speaker 1: same for you guys as well. Love this band, have
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Speaker 1: loved this band nearly my entire life, well my new
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Speaker 1: I should say, nearly my entire adult life. Lots of
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Speaker 1: crazy stories about the so called only band that matters
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Speaker 1: in our Clash episode this week. I got into this
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Speaker 1: obviously in the episode, but I get into it over
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Speaker 1: on Instagram as well. They found. The band found themselves
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Speaker 1: charged with terrorism in London, chased out of Jamaica by
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Speaker 1: drug kingpins. Very scary moment. And then you know two
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Speaker 1: main set pieces we focus on in this episode. First
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Speaker 1: is the legendary set of shows that the Clash did
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Speaker 1: at Bond International Casino in Times Square back in May
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Speaker 1: and June of nineteen eighty one. Band this book to
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Speaker 1: play seven shows there, but greedy promoters. This is fascinating.
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Speaker 1: This has never happened today. I don't think, I mean
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Speaker 1: it would happen. It would just happened in a different way,
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Speaker 1: using technology to their advantage. But basically what happened was
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Speaker 1: these greedy New York City promoters over sold every show
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Speaker 1: there were there. I can't recall if it was seven
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Speaker 1: or eight shows off the top of my head here,
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Speaker 1: but every show that the Clash had planned to do
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Speaker 1: they oversold them. And there was basically all these kids
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Speaker 1: who were going to get shut out and weren't going
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Speaker 1: to be able to go to the show. They had
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Speaker 1: paid money and they weren'ting to be able to attend.
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Speaker 1: So the Clash, being the reighteous dudentes that they were,
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Speaker 1: decided they were going to just keep playing shows until
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Speaker 1: every kid got in to see the band, and it
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Speaker 1: ended up being like seventeen total shows or something like that.
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Speaker 1: Just really fascinating. So that's a big piece of the story.
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Speaker 1: On Instagram, we get into, you know, beyond the podcast,
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Speaker 1: We get into suit did a little video on some
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Speaker 1: of the art that opened for the Clash, some of
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Speaker 1: the hip hop artists that Joe Stummer was into. That
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Speaker 1: he gave a platform two in the opening slots and
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Speaker 1: there's this really neat Robert de Niro, Martin Scorseesian anecdote
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Speaker 1: as well. We talked about the second set piece in
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Speaker 1: the Clash story from our full episode was this this
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Speaker 1: piece here, This is fascinating. It's still hard for me
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Speaker 1: to believe. But when the Clash were at the height
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Speaker 1: of their fame, Joe Strummer disappeared. No one knew where
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Speaker 1: he was, and at the moment of Combat Rock coming out,
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Speaker 1: which was a huge album for them, Joe Strummers is gone.
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Speaker 1: No one knows where he is, and the reason why
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Speaker 1: he was missing is fascinating. So you can hear all
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Speaker 1: these stories and more in this week's episode of Disgrace
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Speaker 1: Land on the Clash that's in your feeds right now.
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Speaker 1: If you have heard the episode, let me know what
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Speaker 1: you think. Six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: three eight, and if you have not heard it, get
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Speaker 1: it into your years. The Clash are a fascinating group,
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Speaker 1: mold breaking band, one of the singular pop groups. And
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Speaker 1: I use that word on purpose pop because they ended
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Speaker 1: up going from punk to pop. And I don't mean
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Speaker 1: pop punk. I mean they transcended where they had started
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Speaker 1: punk rock and became something completely different with the album
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Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of minutes ago, Combat Rock, and
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Speaker 1: this is part of the interesting story of the Clash.
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Speaker 1: I don't say that they became pop in a despair.
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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be disparaging when I say that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not at all. I bring it up because it's
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Speaker 1: interesting to me. When I think about The Clash and
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Speaker 1: I think about the story we just told, and I
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Speaker 1: think about the intentions that Joe Strummer had when he
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Speaker 1: started that band, you know, you got to think like
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Speaker 1: the Clash. You know, there's an interesting comp between The
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Speaker 1: Clash and Public Enemy where you have the highly sort
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Speaker 1: of mission driven efforts of one artist in the band,
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Speaker 1: Joe Strummer, and then you sort of have a not
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Speaker 1: a completely different but a slightly different reason to be
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Speaker 1: from this. I don't want to say side guy, but
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Speaker 1: the other songwriter, who's Mick Jones in the band? Joe
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Speaker 1: Strummer obviously political, Mick Jones very pop oriented. And I
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Speaker 1: see this comp with Public Enemy, where you have Chuck
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Speaker 1: d who's very obviously political, and Flavor flav who's kind
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Speaker 1: of the foil. Not that Mick Jones was a foil,
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Speaker 1: but he definitely softened out the hard edges of Joe Strummer.
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Speaker 1: And if Mick Jones were not in the band and
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Speaker 1: not lending all those pop songwriting sensibilities to the group,
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been the band that they were, and
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been on the trajectory that they were,
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Speaker 1: and they wouldn't have started as they started, and they
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the impact they had, and they wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have ended as they had ended. And this happens with
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Speaker 1: a lot of bands. The Clash started out as this
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Speaker 1: one thing, this heavily mission driven band that was all
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Speaker 1: about authenticity, all about bringing the truth. Okay, three chords
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Speaker 1: in the truth. And as they got bigger, and as
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Speaker 1: they needed to stay bigger to continue to float the
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Speaker 1: boat that they had built their mission. They got off
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Speaker 1: course and this ight at Joe Strummer and they needed
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Speaker 1: to continue to grow as most endeavors do, or you
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Speaker 1: get swallowed up. But that ended up cutting to right
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Speaker 1: to the heart of what they were trying to do,
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Speaker 1: and not in a good way and undercutting what they
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Speaker 1: were trying to do. In other words, the bigger they got,
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Speaker 1: the less they were able to stay on course. And
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Speaker 1: this aid at Joe Strummer. I think it ate at
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Speaker 1: Mic Jones in a way, and there was always that
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Speaker 1: great tension between the two and ultimately it's what drove
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Speaker 1: them apart. And there are so many stories like this
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Speaker 1: in pop music, and if you look at I mean
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Speaker 1: everyone from Nirvana to Bob Dylan, there are very few
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Speaker 1: that figure out how to maintain the parts of the
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Speaker 1: original mission uh that that can transcend the group the
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Speaker 1: artist into a different phase of their career, both creatively personally.
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Speaker 1: It's very hard to do. It's very hard to make
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Speaker 1: that jump, and the Clash couldn't do it, and they
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Speaker 1: they broke up at I would say the height of
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Speaker 1: their fame really after Combat Rock. The irony is with
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Speaker 1: all that great songwriting tension between Joe Strummer and mc jones.
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Speaker 1: The irony is that one of their biggest hits, rock
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Speaker 1: the Caasbo, was written by their by their drummer topper,
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Speaker 1: which is just amazing. I didn't know that until we
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Speaker 1: get into the research for this. It's very interesting to me.
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Speaker 1: But all of this is to say, you know it
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Speaker 1: kind of it kind of made me think about the Beatles,
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Speaker 1: and the Beatles are a singular band for for lots
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Speaker 1: of reasons, but uh not least of which is the
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Speaker 1: fact that they just they stopped touring. This is a
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Speaker 1: famous thing that they did. Everyone knows this. They stopped
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Speaker 1: touring and they just became a studio band. It's something
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Speaker 1: that would never happen today, and if it did, you know,
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Speaker 1: kudos to someone who could pull it off. But because
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Speaker 1: they were able to do that, I feel like they
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Speaker 1: were able to sustain what was their mission for much
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Speaker 1: longer than they would have been had they just been
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Speaker 1: doing the regular artists, go make a record, go out
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Speaker 1: on the road cycle that all these bands get caught
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Speaker 1: up in. And the Beatles, I feel like, you know,
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Speaker 1: they just constantly were on the rise until they weren't.
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Speaker 1: They never really had that dip and as soon as
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Speaker 1: things stopped working, they stopped working. And you know, the Clash.
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Speaker 1: I love the Clash, but there are misses in their
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Speaker 1: discography and you can hear it when you listen to
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Speaker 1: the big swings that they took. And I'm not faulting
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Speaker 1: them for it, but eventually the weight of it all
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Speaker 1: became too much and they faded away. And we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get into this a little bit with Bob Dylan in
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Speaker 1: the new episode. We've got coming on him very shortly
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Speaker 1: for you. But it's just, you know, I don't really
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Speaker 1: know how to organize my thoughts around the Clash. I'm
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Speaker 1: sort of I'm seeing this take form here in real
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Speaker 1: time with you guys, and it's relative to not only
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Speaker 1: this band, but like I said, Bob Dylan beatles others.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to keep digging into it with you guys,
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Speaker 1: try to get to the bottom of it in the meantime.
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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six, six six three eight.
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Speaker 1: Hit me up on voicemail, hit me up on text.
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Speaker 1: Let me know what you thought of this Clash episode. Uh,
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Speaker 1: let me know. Are the Clash your favorite punk band?
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Speaker 1: How do you rate? We talked about our favorite nineties
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Speaker 1: Frontmen last week? How do you rate your sort of
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Speaker 1: pioneers of punk rock? You know, if we're looking at
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Speaker 1: those bands from the mid to late seventies, the Clash,
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Speaker 1: the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, there's a gazillion other ones.
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Speaker 1: You can throw the New York Dolls in there if
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Speaker 1: you want, even though they're kind of proto punk. Same
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Speaker 1: with the Stooges. How do you rate those early punk bands?
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Speaker 1: Where does the Clash sit for you? Are they number one?
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Speaker 1: Do you know that story about the Clash and the
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Speaker 1: Ramones and the first time that the Ramones visited England.
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Speaker 1: That's a good one. I'm not going to tell that now.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to save it. Six one seven nine oh six,
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Speaker 1: six six three eight. Greatest punk bands do it? Top five?
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Speaker 1: Top five punk bands for me? Okay, from the from
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Speaker 1: the early days, I know, you know, you don't know
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Speaker 1: they go to like Circle Jerks, Black Flag and Don't
11:07
Speaker 1: Don't Hit Me with Green Day or any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: OG punk Top five OG punk bands from the seventies,
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Speaker 1: let me know. Six months, seven nine oh six, six
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Speaker 1: six three eight. I'm gonna take a quick break back
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Speaker 1: in a minute with your voicemails and texts. All right,
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Speaker 1: last week we were talking about Scott Wiland and Stone
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Speaker 1: Tip of Pilots. We had that episode that we put
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Speaker 1: out and I put up a question. Top five nineties
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Speaker 1: front men got this? This is a good list, A
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Speaker 1: left of center list from Jay Smithy seven five seven
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Speaker 1: on instat right, saying sure you had a million messages
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Speaker 1: of top five nineties front men with sam grunge names,
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Speaker 1: so I'll try to be original here. Number one Maynard
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Speaker 1: James Keenan from Tool, number two, Brad Noell from Sublime,
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Speaker 1: number three, Less Claypool from Primus, number four, Billy Joe
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Speaker 1: Armstrong from Green Day, number five, John Popper from Blues Traveler.
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Speaker 1: Really interesting lists there, so fricking nineties and uh interesting
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Speaker 1: to me if you look at that list and a
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Speaker 1: lot of those artists are still going. Tool is still going, Uh,
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Speaker 1: Primus is still going as far as I know, I
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Speaker 1: don't think they're completely broken up. Green Day of course
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Speaker 1: still going. Uh don't know about Blues Traveler, and Sublime
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Speaker 1: is now still happening with Bradley Nole's Kid from what
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Speaker 1: I understand. So just wanted to call that out. The
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Speaker 1: nineties live on and not just on the ankle tattoo
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Speaker 1: that I've got going on over here that no one
12:51
Speaker 1: needs to ever see. All right, what else we got here?
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Speaker 1: Six one, seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight,
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Speaker 1: hit me up. Let's check out some voicemails and text
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Speaker 1: from you guys. All right, I'll have the same question
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Speaker 1: of favorite frontman from the nineties. The five three to
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Speaker 1: zero rights in being a teen in the early nineties.
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Speaker 1: It'd be too easy to pick some grunge singers, so
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Speaker 1: I'll take a different route, even though some of these
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Speaker 1: singers also released album in the eighties. Lucinda Williams so
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Speaker 1: underrated and underappreciated. That's number one. David Lowry Cracker Camper
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Speaker 1: van Beethoven. Number three, Jeremy enoch Is Sunny Day Real
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Speaker 1: Estate for Blake Schwarzenbach of Jawbreaker and Jets to Brazil.
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Speaker 1: Not the cleanest or pretty, but he made his mark
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Speaker 1: and influence so many and number five Als Snaros of
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Speaker 1: Sleep and om. His voice compliments the heavy and moody
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Speaker 1: tunes so well. Keep up this stellar work, per usual.
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Speaker 1: That is an incredible list. Incredible and I've seen a
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Speaker 1: bunch of those artists played with some of those artists
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Speaker 1: in my former life. I saw Lucinda Williams saw Greatly
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Speaker 1: Send to Williams show at the Grand Old Aubry, which
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Speaker 1: is incredible, played with David Lowry from Cracker Camp. Pro
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Speaker 1: Van Beethoven saw Sunny Day Real Estate's first show ever
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Speaker 1: in Boston at Bill's Bar opening up. Four oh man?
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Speaker 1: What was that band ever? Clear Blake Schwarzenbach of Jawbreaker
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Speaker 1: and Jets to Brazil. I've never seen either? Can you
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Speaker 1: believe that? I can't? And never saw a sleep either.
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Speaker 1: So but great list. Great list of those five who
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Speaker 1: send to David Lowry, Jeremy Enoch, Blake and al. I'm
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Speaker 1: putting Listenda right right where you got her, right at
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Speaker 1: the top of the list. Awesome list. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: keep going here. What else we got? Got this message
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Speaker 1: from the rain Man in six' five to, one writes,
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Speaker 1: In hey Rain man from the five oh Seven excuse,
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Speaker 1: know you've had this suggestion a few, times but The
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Speaker 1: Dead kennedys would be. Great to hear. About seems like
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Speaker 1: you might not be the biggest, fan but that's. Okay,
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Speaker 1: also maybe some bands Like Fu Manchu caius or while
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Speaker 1: next episode we have coming up On tuesday On Anthony,
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Speaker 1: it was one of those you know cattle call gigs
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Speaker 1: where there's just a gazillion bands on the, bill and
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Speaker 1: backstage there was no real. Backstage it was a day
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Speaker 1: show and you just kind of get done, playing and
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Speaker 1: backstage was sort of outside in the backyard area of The.
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Speaker 1: Continental AND i just walked outside and there's a little
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Speaker 1: party going on out. There it was, daytime and you,
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Speaker 1: know everyone's kind of day drunk. Itself By. Southwest this,
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Speaker 1: was by the, way probably twenty years, ago and we
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Speaker 1: were starting to load out our gear or. Something and,
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Speaker 1: ANYWAYS i walked just walked right into this circle of
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Speaker 1: like three or four dudes standing there passing a. Joint
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Speaker 1: and WHEN i just like walked into it and carrying my,
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Speaker 1: amp and someone handed me a joint and it Was Jello,
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Speaker 1: biafra and SO i just took a hit AND i
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Speaker 1: there's my Dead kennedy's. Story maybe someday there'll be an
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Speaker 1: actual Dead kennedy's episode Of disgraceland that will be way
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19:03
Speaker 3: podcast to turn me onto, it, Right So i've been
19:05
Speaker 3: listening it since, then and that was twenty. EIGHTEEN i
19:08
Speaker 3: BELIEVE i believe my math is, correct but as a
19:11
Speaker 3: long time. Listener i've noticed that you have you're addressing
19:14
Speaker 3: a much larger. Audience you've had an, uptick AND i
19:17
Speaker 3: was wondering what caused, that or when did you realize
19:20
Speaker 3: that you needed to cater to the. Newcomers is it
19:24
Speaker 3: because they kept asking for episodes on ticking you already
19:28
Speaker 3: covered or. OTHERWISE i knew this was going to take
19:31
Speaker 3: off from the very. Beginning this is an amazing concept
19:35
Speaker 3: and you're doing it. Wonderfully AND, i for, one thank you.
19:38
Speaker 1: All right five seven? Three good, uh thanks for the.
19:41
Speaker 1: Message good. Question i'd pushed back a little on the
19:45
Speaker 1: on the notion THAT i cater to new. FANS i
19:50
Speaker 1: definitely try to make everyone feel, welcome for, sure new.
19:53
Speaker 1: FANS i can tell when people come. In when we
19:56
Speaker 1: get an influx of new. Listeners right, now that's happening
20:00
Speaker 1: in part because of our efforts over On, instagram and
20:03
Speaker 1: we've been releasing these these sixty second videos that are
20:07
Speaker 1: just sort of like we're extracting these little anecdotes from
20:11
Speaker 1: the episodes and producing them in video format and again
20:14
Speaker 1: like really really micro version sixty second ninety second, videos
20:19
Speaker 1: and that's that's caught on and then that of course
20:22
Speaker 1: grows the podcast somewhat, so BUT i DON'T i don't
20:27
Speaker 1: we don't address or try to address a larger. AUDIENCE
20:33
Speaker 1: i will always dip into my personal, taste Gg allen
20:38
Speaker 1: being being one of, them and just things that interest.
20:41
Speaker 1: Me But i'm also interested And i've been this way
20:44
Speaker 1: my whole, life even going back to the first two
20:47
Speaker 1: seasons Of disgraceland and way before that WHEN i was
20:49
Speaker 1: a little, kid And i've talked about it here. Before
20:50
Speaker 1: i've been interested in all types of artists. Artists excuse,
20:53
Speaker 1: me SOMETIMES i go way out of my comfort. Zone,
20:56
Speaker 1: though to your, Point Mariah, Carey i'm not very interested
20:59
Speaker 1: In Mariah, carey BUT i am. INTERESTED i was, interested
21:02
Speaker 1: And Mariah carey's sort, of you, know her Whole christmas
21:06
Speaker 1: queen thing that she has going, on so it seemed, like,
21:08
Speaker 1: okay you know, thematically let's do that Around christmas. Time
21:12
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other obscure artists That i'm not into
21:15
Speaker 1: or not interested.
21:16
Speaker 3: In that that we.
21:17
Speaker 1: Cover New order being one of those that was, heavily
21:20
Speaker 1: heavily requested by the. Audience and one thing we are changing,
21:25
Speaker 1: though and this is because it befits authentically my interests
21:29
Speaker 1: that go beyond. Music you, know we've had this sort
21:31
Speaker 1: of Bad lands feed that was. Happening we fucked with
21:35
Speaker 1: The sportsland thing for a. While so Obviously i'm interested in.
21:38
Speaker 1: Film i'm interested in film, History hollywood. History i'm interested in,
21:41
Speaker 1: sports a huge sports. Fan but my interests go even beyond,
21:46
Speaker 1: Sports hollywood and. Music i'm interested in interesting people and
21:50
Speaker 1: the dark, stories specifically the dark stories that surround them
21:55
Speaker 1: and what they have to fight, through the disgrace that
21:58
Speaker 1: they have to move themselves and the people around them
22:02
Speaker 1: through to make it out the other. Side it creates
22:05
Speaker 1: these incredibly dramatic. Stories And i've been interested in this
22:09
Speaker 1: my whole. Life it's been my interest in historical. Fiction
22:12
Speaker 1: it's been my interest and the authors That i've, read
22:15
Speaker 1: the poets That i've, read the artists That i've responded,
22:20
Speaker 1: To and you're going to see over the coming weeks
22:24
Speaker 1: months this year that we're going to start to sprinkle
22:28
Speaker 1: in those stories with The Ggi, allens with The, blondies
22:31
Speaker 1: with The New, orders and we're going to have a
22:33
Speaker 1: much more robust experience here In. Disgraceland because it's occurred
22:39
Speaker 1: to me over the last five years That disgraceland is
22:41
Speaker 1: not just about. Music it's about the, disgrace and it's
22:45
Speaker 1: about these interesting characters and these dark stories and what
22:48
Speaker 1: we can learn from these stories and how we can
22:50
Speaker 1: be entertained by. Them AND i don't think that everything
22:53
Speaker 1: has to be an after school. SPECIAL i don't think
22:54
Speaker 1: that everything has to be this SERIOUS npr type of.
22:57
Speaker 1: Storytelling this shit is. Entertaining it's, fun and it's gonna
23:00
Speaker 1: stay that, way whether we're talking about Gg, Allen, Blondie Anthony,
23:04
Speaker 1: Bourdain Elon, Musk, Picasso, Basquot. Picket, okay we're gonna get into,
23:11
Speaker 1: it And i'm gonna find a way to continue to
23:13
Speaker 1: give you guys what you, want be it on the
23:15
Speaker 1: obscure side or on the bigger. Side does that answer your?
23:20
Speaker 1: Question kind of answers my question Because i'm this stuff
23:22
Speaker 1: is in my, head as you can, tell And i'm
23:25
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out here in real. Time thanks
23:27
Speaker 1: for the. Support if you get someone you want to
23:29
Speaker 1: hear besides you, know someone in the Gg Allen vain
23:32
Speaker 1: or perhaps someone, else call back let me, know all,
23:35
Speaker 1: Right and that goes for the rest of you. Too
23:37
Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six' six. Three eight
23:40
Speaker 1: let's do. One, more uh let's do this one from
23:43
Speaker 1: the seven?
23:44
Speaker 2: Eight, one jake what up your boy? Is here just
23:49
Speaker 2: listen To The scott, wiland EPISODE and i, Gotta, say god,
23:53
Speaker 2: damn man that's some good fucking. Story, telling, anxiety, goosebumps
24:01
Speaker 2: happiness all. The fields you did an, amazing job, my
24:06
Speaker 2: MAN and i gotta say one of the. Best yet
24:11
Speaker 2: keep up the good, fucking work. My Man, DISCO.
24:15
Speaker 1: Ish i, love, you, great, great great. Great voicemail. Thank
24:19
Speaker 1: you i'm so happy that you like. That storytelling all
24:21
Speaker 1: props to the team Here At Double Elvis zeth lundy
24:23
Speaker 1: who wrote. That One Uh In matt Bowden and Sean
24:26
Speaker 1: ka Halen And matta haney and all the guys here
24:28
Speaker 1: who did the music, and audio, The Scoring, ryan spreaker
24:31
Speaker 1: all that. Crushed it happy you. DUG it I think
24:34
Speaker 1: i recorded last night ish. The uh if you Liked
24:36
Speaker 1: The scott, WILAND episode i recorded last Night The Lane
24:39
Speaker 1: Staleia allison chains episode that will be out soon, as
24:42
Speaker 1: well so hopefully you dig. That too These are these
24:46
Speaker 1: are two to kind of go with the theme of
24:48
Speaker 1: This podcast today's. Bonus episode these are two of the
24:51
Speaker 1: most highly recommended episodes that have come from, You GUYS
24:56
Speaker 1: and i guess to the last, callers point, YOU know
24:58
Speaker 1: i talk ABOUT how i don't try to. SERVICE newcomers
25:01
Speaker 1: i do try to, SERVICE everyone, i guess and You know.
25:03
Speaker 1: I'M not i haven't been The Biggest scott. WILAND fan
25:06
Speaker 1: i kind of addressed that. Last week but we wanted
25:09
Speaker 1: to dig in and do a good job for you
25:11
Speaker 1: guys and give you what. You WANTED but i think
25:13
Speaker 1: to the last, callers point we've got to figure out
25:15
Speaker 1: a way that we can organize all of these requests
25:20
Speaker 1: and that we can make sure that you're all, being
25:21
Speaker 1: satisfied you're all getting the episodes on the subjects that,
25:25
Speaker 1: you want and that we aren't tipping the scales too
25:28
Speaker 1: heavily in one direction or. The other but just back to,
25:31
Speaker 1: The point ish stoked that you were, into that and
25:34
Speaker 1: a lot of great responses from everyone out There in
25:37
Speaker 1: Disgraceland About. Scott wiland so, thank. You guys glad you.
25:40
Speaker 1: Dug it we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
25:42
Speaker 1: be back in. A flash, all right we. Are, back
25:59
Speaker 1: listen you're getting rewind episode. This week That's the studio
26:02
Speaker 1: four episode and one of, my favorites one of. My
26:07
Speaker 1: favorites loved the music in. This One ryan's breaker fucking
26:10
Speaker 1: killed it. For us, just, great great. Great JOB and
26:13
Speaker 1: i love the history. Of disco and, YOU know i
26:17
Speaker 1: know people hate disco the, you know the classic, rock
26:21
Speaker 1: guys the punk, rock guys some of the. MANY ways
26:23
Speaker 1: i don't want, to generalize but, you know disco was
26:28
Speaker 1: and is and remains one of the most subversive styles of.
26:31
Speaker 1: Music ever and its history. Is fascinating where it, comes
26:37
Speaker 1: from where it, came from how it got to where,
26:39
Speaker 1: it was how it completely took over. Pop music and
26:43
Speaker 1: there is great disco Even and i'm not just talking
26:47
Speaker 1: About The giorgio moroder. Obscure stuff i'm talking about the
26:51
Speaker 1: hits that beg stuff you can't fuck with it in, a,
26:54
Speaker 1: vacuum objectively. Just, Incredible okay so that's my bit. ON
26:59
Speaker 1: disco i want it to a little bit about what's
27:00
Speaker 1: coming to you guys. Next week That's The anthony. Bourdaine.
27:03
Speaker 1: EPISODE okay i haven't been this excited about an episode
27:07
Speaker 1: in a long. LONG time i wrote my heart out for.
27:11
Speaker 1: THIS one i left fucking blood on, the desk, not,
27:16
Speaker 1: literally figuratively you're going to be into. THIS though, I hope.
27:20
Speaker 1: I hope this is a massive subject. FOR me i
27:23
Speaker 1: think it's a big subject for you guys. As well
27:25
Speaker 1: i'm A Huge anthony, bourdain fan and there's so. Much
27:28
Speaker 1: here there's so much to, his story and so much
27:30
Speaker 1: of it was. Already public it was very challenging to
27:33
Speaker 1: find a unique lane into this storytelling to give you
27:36
Speaker 1: guys something new. And FRESH and i really hope that we.
27:39
Speaker 1: Did that i'm pumped for you to. HEAR it i
27:42
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit, about obviously his girlfriend
27:46
Speaker 1: there at, The End agio argento is a huge part of.
27:49
Speaker 1: This episode she could not not be but it just
27:53
Speaker 1: got me sort of going back through her history a
27:56
Speaker 1: little bit from a. Creative PERSPECTIVE and i watched that
27:58
Speaker 1: able for our film a DIRECTOR who i, really LIKE
28:02
Speaker 1: and I watched i Watched The agio argento Film With
28:06
Speaker 1: william Dafoe and christopher walk And Called New, rose hotel
28:11
Speaker 1: AND then i did a little digging on that film
28:14
Speaker 1: because that FILM is i don't know what the actual
28:17
Speaker 1: definition of, erotica IS but i know what the definition of,
28:20
Speaker 1: pornography is and it's, you know it's somewhere around both.
28:26
Speaker 1: Of those not. Quite porn it might. Be erotica it's
28:31
Speaker 1: not a. Great film it looks like a. Great film
28:33
Speaker 1: it sounds like a. Great FILM and i know many
28:35
Speaker 1: of you out there are going to your hair is
28:37
Speaker 1: going to light on fire when you hear me say
28:39
Speaker 1: that it's not a. Great film but, just objectively. It's
28:42
Speaker 1: not if you're looking to, Get off if you're looking
28:44
Speaker 1: for something hot to get you stoked, or whatever, then
28:47
Speaker 1: yeah this. Is it it's. Incredibly HOT but, i wonder,
28:52
Speaker 1: YOU know i WAS before i get to the. WONDER
28:55
Speaker 1: part i was reading a little bit about the history
28:57
Speaker 1: of it and how they were trying to cast a
28:59
Speaker 1: woman in the eye our gentle role and the role that,
29:02
Speaker 1: she got, Excuse me and they had all these different
29:05
Speaker 1: women that came in, and read and then she came
29:08
Speaker 1: in and she kind of just, you know the role
29:12
Speaker 1: she plays is of this this very powerful sex worker
29:17
Speaker 1: who has a lot of control and command over, the
29:21
Speaker 1: men seemingly more powerful men in. Her LIFE and i
29:26
Speaker 1: read this quote from somebody who was on the, film
29:29
Speaker 1: set and so that's basically who she was in. Real
29:31
Speaker 1: life and this Is, pre boordain by, the way, this
29:33
Speaker 1: quote she kind of came in and just kind of,
29:36
Speaker 1: Controlled Everybody willem, defoe included and just kind of had
29:39
Speaker 1: her way, with them which was fascinating. To read and
29:43
Speaker 1: in the context Of The anthony bourdain EPISODE that i
29:47
Speaker 1: just wrote that you're gonna hear, next week this film
29:50
Speaker 1: is really really compelling, and INTERESTING so i encourage you
29:54
Speaker 1: to seek. It out It's Called New. Rose, hotel again
29:58
Speaker 1: not a, great film but it will end. Entertain you and,
30:02
Speaker 1: you know it's fucking charismatic movie stars doing charismatic movie,
30:06
Speaker 1: star shit so you can't really go wrong even if
30:08
Speaker 1: it's if it's not the. Greatest storytelling if You, got
30:11
Speaker 1: criterion it's on. That App but i'm sure you can
30:13
Speaker 1: find It on apple. And ELSEWHERE and i think Able
30:16
Speaker 1: fer ours films are some of them are. On YouTube
30:18
Speaker 1: you might even get. It There New, rose hotel check.
30:20
Speaker 1: That Out anthony bourdain coming, next week, And yeah i'm
30:26
Speaker 1: sorry for you guys to hear at six, one seven
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30:34
Speaker 1: what the hell are you? Even doing we're doing all
30:37
Speaker 1: kinds of new shit over there. Every, day okay if
30:39
Speaker 1: you want little micro versions of what you're getting in,
30:42
Speaker 1: the podcast get, over there, follow us check. It out
30:45
Speaker 1: we got stories On. Iggy pop it's almost got a
30:48
Speaker 1: million views at. This point, in fact by the time you,
30:50
Speaker 1: hear this it will probably be in. A, million hendrix,
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Speaker 1: The regular we got these little nostalgia pieces we're doing.
31:09
Speaker 1: As well if you're if you're a child of the
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Speaker 1: NINETIES as, i am you're going to.
31:14
Speaker 2: Dig that.
31:14
Speaker 1: ALL right i don't mean to SAY that i was
31:16
Speaker 1: born in. THE nineties i, was NOT but I was
31:18
Speaker 1: i was formed in. The nineties how? About that six
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Speaker 1: thing number one right now in, your feed a brand
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Speaker 1: Number four next Week, in disgraceland we launched the twenty
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