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Bend It Like Beckham with Subhah Agarwal · The Bechdel Cast

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  Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have
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  Speaker 1: women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
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  Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef in best
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  Speaker 1: start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus and my
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  Speaker 1: name is Caitlin Rante. This is our podcast about the
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  Speaker 1: representation of women in movies. You've seen before? You have it? Yeah, Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel the representation of women in mainstream
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  Speaker 1: American cinema is? I'll tell you what, pretty bad? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I would agree, don't care for it. Usually feel it's
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  Speaker 1: like a bit of a slap in the face, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And that conversation just passed the Bechtel test, which is
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  Speaker 1: the test that we use as just a jumping off
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  Speaker 1: point to initiate a larger conversation about the representation of
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  Speaker 1: women in movies. The Bechtel test for us requires that
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  Speaker 1: the movie has two female I entifying characters in it.
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  Speaker 1: They have to have names already, Why bothers those characters
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  Speaker 1: have to speak to each other? That happens, I'm leaving
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  Speaker 1: the theater. Who wants to watch women talk right, and
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  Speaker 1: their conversation has to be about anything besides men, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: talking about food. There's nothing has to talk about right,
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  Speaker 1: So here here, let's let's play to test the test
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  Speaker 1: really quick. I'd love to okay, Caitlin, Hey, Jamie, you
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  Speaker 1: play sports? I do play soccer. Well, I played soccer
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  Speaker 1: when I was four, but then I got kicked off
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  Speaker 1: of a youth team, which isn't supposed to be allowed
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  Speaker 1: to happen to four year old But I what did
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  Speaker 1: you do to get kicked off the team? Quote refused
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  Speaker 1: to participate? Unquote I see and quote picked flowers and
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  Speaker 1: quote through them at the opposing team, which I would
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  Speaker 1: argue was probably helpful to my team. And they shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: let me stay, I think, but that may be some
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  Speaker 1: poor sportsmanship. Well, we'll do matter next time. Sorry, we're
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  Speaker 1: just done. Women. Shall we introduce please? She's a comedian
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  Speaker 1: and she's a writer for the Jim Jefferies Show. Suba
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  Speaker 1: our gar Wall. Hey, welcome, thanks for having me, Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for being here. So we're talking about Bendett, like Beckham,
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  Speaker 1: tell us about your history with this movie, your relationship
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  Speaker 1: to it. When did you first see it? I? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I think I was young. I don't remember exactly one,
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  Speaker 1: but um, it was very relatable. I loved it. It It
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  Speaker 1: was like, I think it was the first because when
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  Speaker 1: I was little, the only the brown girl I really saw.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, of course there's Bollywood films, but
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea what the hell was going on there.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was Princess Jasmine. And when I was
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  Speaker 1: super little, I thought I was a princess because I
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  Speaker 1: saw Jasmine and my dad would call me princess, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of our white school teachers called my house
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, is your daughter really a princess? And
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  Speaker 1: was like, no, soups embarrassing, that's adorable. Though, could have
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  Speaker 1: just leaned into it, like he just doesn't want people
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  Speaker 1: to know they're trying to murder me because I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to inherit the throne. Now I think we were merchants.
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  Speaker 1: Was our cast? I don't know, but so yeah, back on,
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely adored it because it kind of became my
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  Speaker 1: life story with the whole entire double life thing with
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  Speaker 1: me and stand up where it's like, um, my parents
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  Speaker 1: took me to my first ever open mic and then
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  Speaker 1: they forbade me from doing comedy and then I would
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  Speaker 1: sneak out and say I was going to parties and
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  Speaker 1: like go out and do shows and stuff. So it
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  Speaker 1: was very like Backham. They were cool with parties, but
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  Speaker 1: not well, you have to understand who my friends were. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I was such a loser. This is completely true. I
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  Speaker 1: got into comedy because I thought it would teach me
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  Speaker 1: how to talk to people. Work even weirder on direction. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I've gotten way socially worse since I started
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  Speaker 1: to stand up. Hey, now I talked, but everything I
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  Speaker 1: say it's an appropriate perfect I mean, it's more complicated
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  Speaker 1: than that. But so my friends, this is true. I
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  Speaker 1: was so awkward and so nerdy that the people who
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  Speaker 1: took me into their friend circle was this Korean church
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  Speaker 1: youth group at my school because they saw me and
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  Speaker 1: it was like adopting strike. Yeah, they took me another
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  Speaker 1: group and they like let me come to their like
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  Speaker 1: youth group Friday. So it's like, yeah, we would go
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  Speaker 1: real crazy. We would do karaoke and like go to
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  Speaker 1: a hay patch. You were their project, their project. So
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  Speaker 1: those were the parties that you told your parents you
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  Speaker 1: were going to and instead you were going out and
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  Speaker 1: doing stand up. Okay, it is really bend it like
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  Speaker 1: that up, but I think I like that better. Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: when did you first see the movie? I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: I first saw this movie. I definitely didn't see it
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  Speaker 1: when it first came out. I would have been tune
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  Speaker 1: to see it, But I saw it at some point
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  Speaker 1: in high school. Um. I think that a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: my friends and I watched it, and it would have
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  Speaker 1: probably been because we knew by that point who Kira
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  Speaker 1: Nightly was, and so we were like, oh, you're not
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  Speaker 1: lisening this movie, we'll watch it, And yeah, I really
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  Speaker 1: liked it. I've seen it a couple of times over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and it's always been just like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know I was. I was a little bit worried, as
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  Speaker 1: I always am anytime we rewatch a movie with this
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  Speaker 1: like Lens. I was a little bit weird going into
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  Speaker 1: it because I didn't remember all the details white and
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  Speaker 1: usually when that happens, it means that I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: not love the movie anymore. It's gonna be very upset.
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  Speaker 1: But this movie held up for me. I thought, I
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  Speaker 1: I really it's it just warms my heart to feel
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  Speaker 1: like movie still banks it's right. It's very rare that
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  Speaker 1: we revisit a movie after having been doing this podcast
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  Speaker 1: for a while and are able to still enjoy a
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  Speaker 1: movie so without without like that weird feeling of like
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  Speaker 1: but astros gast you know, right. So it came on
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  Speaker 1: two thousand two. I think I saw it shortly after
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  Speaker 1: it came out. I would have been in high school
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and I was really at the top
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  Speaker 1: of my soccer career in that moment. I was a
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  Speaker 1: captain of my soccer team. I I know, I was
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  Speaker 1: a left forward. I was scoring goals all the time.
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  Speaker 1: What does left forward mean is that just I played
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  Speaker 1: an offensive position, so like upstage, but but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: drama closer to the traffic line. I would okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So like I would enter the field stage left field, left,
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  Speaker 1: and um hit the mark. I would hit my mark.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah. So I'm a huge soccer fan, and so
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  Speaker 1: I kind of just automatically liked this movie because it
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  Speaker 1: was about women playing soccer. It was around the time
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  Speaker 1: in my life where I was like really gung ho
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  Speaker 1: about soccer, and you could argue that I still am
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  Speaker 1: because right after this, I'm going to play soccer in Pasadena.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, so um. I really enjoyed this
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  Speaker 1: movie at the time, and then I would watch it
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  Speaker 1: here and there. I haven't seen it that many times.
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  Speaker 1: I loved soccer too. I wanted to be I tried, really,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a professional soccer player, but my
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  Speaker 1: health and my genetics gotten away. So sorry, did you
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  Speaker 1: think you're gonna do soccer? You're going to do math.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're physically suited to math. Your bones are
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  Speaker 1: shaped for this wheel, wheel in desk shape for I mean,
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  Speaker 1: make no mistake, I'm not good at soccer. I've been
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  Speaker 1: playing for over twenty five years, so I should be
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  Speaker 1: much better than I am, and I'm literally still very bad.
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  Speaker 1: And my problem was I was fat when I was little,
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  Speaker 1: and then when you're fat and they don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing, they just make you the goalie. They're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't move, and I would get so mad that
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  Speaker 1: they would put me in goalie because I know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is because I'm fat. And then like
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  Speaker 1: I stopped, I refused to play goalie and I started
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  Speaker 1: playing these positions. But by the time, my school was
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  Speaker 1: very competitive, so it was really hard to get on
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  Speaker 1: the team, and I started working out and I draw
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  Speaker 1: and I lost all this weight and like I ended
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  Speaker 1: up like for a soccer for soccer, like wolfer soccer.
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  Speaker 1: And I was also tired of, you know, not being
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  Speaker 1: fuckable in the night, Like now it's better, but now
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there'd be a dude who's like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to look like that. I'm totally into you.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but then no, but yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you're ye ten in the nineties, it's yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's a so yeah, I lost this wight. I started jogging,
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  Speaker 1: I started working out and training really hard, and I
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  Speaker 1: could not catch up. I still couldn't make it, but
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess at least I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to diet of a heart attack at thirty. I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'll just be healthy. Into your mouth and I
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  Speaker 1: was told I was once perfectly physically built to play
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  Speaker 1: the oboe because I like, when I had a back braise,
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  Speaker 1: I went to my oboe instructor and I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was going to tell me to quit because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I have to wear a back braid all the time,
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  Speaker 1: how am I supposed to? And he was like, you
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  Speaker 1: don't understand what a blessing. This is that the way
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  Speaker 1: I was leading, like my crooked spine was leaning on
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  Speaker 1: my lung in such a way that was very advantageous
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  Speaker 1: to Obo play. So not to brag, that was a gift.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got an athlete, a musician, and a mathematician.
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  Speaker 1: We are basically three most fuckable people in the entire world. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll do the recap recap it u baby, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so bend it like Beckham. The movie focuses on a
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  Speaker 1: character named Jess Bamra. She is a young woman living
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  Speaker 1: in England with her family, and her parents are immigrants.
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  Speaker 1: They're Indian and they're this very traditional family and they
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  Speaker 1: do not like that Jess plays soccer and loves soccer
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  Speaker 1: and loves David Beckham. And then we meet Jules that's
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  Speaker 1: Kara Knightley's character. Her mother's all like, try on these
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  Speaker 1: sexy bras and she's like, I'd rather it's fully like
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  Speaker 1: calling the manager white lady. Mom. Yeah, right, And Jules
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  Speaker 1: sees Jess playing soccer in the park and she's like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's really good and she goes up to her and
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  Speaker 1: Jules was like, hey, you should like try out for
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  Speaker 1: this women's league that I'm on, and Jesse is like,
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  Speaker 1: am I good enough for this? And she's like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so really far with the gig. So Jess goes and
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  Speaker 1: tries out and she makes the team. Her coach is
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  Speaker 1: named Joe and he's played by Jonathan Rees Smyers, and
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  Speaker 1: he thinks that she's got a lot of potential, but
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  Speaker 1: her parents don't want her to play anymore, and like
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  Speaker 1: her sister's gearing up to get married and they're all
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  Speaker 1: like stressed out because of that. So her sister is
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  Speaker 1: played by Archie Punjabi, who is my favorite character. I'm
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  Speaker 1: the Good Wife show that I have seen every episode
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  Speaker 1: of and remember could tell you zero things that happened
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  Speaker 1: the entire show. It was like, I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I love Archie Enny of Alan Cuming,
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  Speaker 1: and that's all I know about the show. Who was
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  Speaker 1: even the lead in that show? Probably a wife that's
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  Speaker 1: good Julianna Margolie's trick questions a good job anyways? Oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: quite really quick, Alfred Molina mentioned please Chris know a
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  Speaker 1: k Mr Big plays the husband in the Good Wife,
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  Speaker 1: and Chris not as we all know, is the poor
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  Speaker 1: man's Alfred Molina I said it. Yeah, okay, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: can do. I'm glad we got that out there. So
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  Speaker 1: Jess has to lie to her parents and like tell
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  Speaker 1: them that she's got a job so that she can
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  Speaker 1: start playing on this women's league women's side. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know club club soccer. They're British and they use words
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  Speaker 1: that I don't want to understand. And then Jules and
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  Speaker 1: just develop a close friendship, and then they're both interested
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  Speaker 1: in their coach Joe and tell each other for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, right or they like they're only like kind
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  Speaker 1: of hinting at it. But like there's a million times
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  Speaker 1: where Kara and Knightley is like, I didn't know whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and Jess is like, okay, you know, Jess plays it
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  Speaker 1: way cooler than Kia Knightley. Kia Knightley is spazzing out anyways. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have never played it cool, not once. It's really
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  Speaker 1: hard being chill for you. On a second, Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: can't relate. So different things happen. Like there's a moment
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  Speaker 1: where like Jess and Jewels are like kind of laughing
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  Speaker 1: and hugging, and like a family friend drives by and
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  Speaker 1: they think that Jesse is kissing someone, so like they
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  Speaker 1: tell her family and then the wedding gets called off
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  Speaker 1: because that's very frowned upon in the community. Jess has
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  Speaker 1: to like sneak off to Germany to play a game,
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  Speaker 1: and she has her sister cover for her. But like
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff gets revealed that she has been playing
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  Speaker 1: and her parents like forbid her from continuing to play.
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  Speaker 1: But then she just keeps at it. She keeps lying.
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  Speaker 1: She committed to lie. She and Joe almost kiss for
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  Speaker 1: a moment, and then like Jess walks in on them,
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  Speaker 1: and then that creates some tension between them. Finally, her parents,
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  Speaker 1: I think they find out about the Germany trip and
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  Speaker 1: they like forbid her from ever playing soccer again. It
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  Speaker 1: gets kind of convolated because it happens a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: different times where it's like I think that the big
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  Speaker 1: plot points go, like, they think she's gay, they capture
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  Speaker 1: playing soccer, they think she's gay playing soccer. They think
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  Speaker 1: she's gay, they let her play soccer. The movie's over,
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  Speaker 1: but it is kind of like the same two conflicts
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  Speaker 1: that keep sort of manifesting in different ways, right, yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So by the end, there is this like big tournament
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  Speaker 1: game that there's like an American scout going to be
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  Speaker 1: at who has his eye on both Jess and Jewels.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the same day of Jesse's sister's wedding, which
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  Speaker 1: gets are fighting fighting over this man, and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: there because I'm like, should he be dating any of
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  Speaker 1: these girls? That doesn't seem like you should, right, But
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  Speaker 1: the movie does not acknowledge that the characters do. They
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  Speaker 1: keep saying yeah, like he's off limits, but then they
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  Speaker 1: go for it anyway. But then he's like, j K,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like they're the reasons I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: off limits and the reasons they thought he was off
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  Speaker 1: limits were different reasons. I thought it was an age thing.
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  Speaker 1: But he's just like, oh no, I'm your coach. Oh right,
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  Speaker 1: because they're they're meant to be in their late teens,
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  Speaker 1: like about to go to you. They're on like some yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're like it's like summer Bread looks young too. It's
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  Speaker 1: not that I hope so he could also be like
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  Speaker 1: twenty four though, and they're like eighteen. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I I don't think laws are
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  Speaker 1: being broken. It's just a little weird slightly Um yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into that went off. It's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you should be um. So the final kind
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  Speaker 1: of big moment in the story is that she's at
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  Speaker 1: her sister wedding and has decided, well, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: can't play soccer anymore because my parents forbid it. But
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  Speaker 1: then her dad finally gives her his blessing because he
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  Speaker 1: had seen her play in a game and like recognizes
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  Speaker 1: her talent. So he's like, go off, and if this
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  Speaker 1: is going to make you happy, go do it. So
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  Speaker 1: she leaves the wedding, goes and plays like the second
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  Speaker 1: half of this soccer game, scores the winning goal. The
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  Speaker 1: scouts sees her and he's like, wow, great, let's send
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  Speaker 1: you off to America, you know, the country that loves
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  Speaker 1: soccer and that there are so many opportunities for soccer
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  Speaker 1: players at Oh I didn't even think of that. There's
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  Speaker 1: so many times in this movie where these characters in
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  Speaker 1: the UK are like, we can't play soccer here, we
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  Speaker 1: have to go to America in order to like make
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  Speaker 1: a living at soccer, and it's like, is that that
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  Speaker 1: might have been true? But also like the US like
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  Speaker 1: hates soccer and women athletes and seems like a real
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  Speaker 1: blanket lose. Maybe that's the movie being like, we want
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  Speaker 1: to get international distribution. Maybe if we just compliment America
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of times, they'll be like, okay, well, and
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  Speaker 1: that must have worked because we've seen it and this
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  Speaker 1: movie was financially huge success. Six million dollar budget, seventy
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  Speaker 1: seven million dollar box off box office, so they got him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so jealous of that one part of the movie
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  Speaker 1: because our stories are pretty similar with the whole like
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  Speaker 1: double life, lying blah blah blag ruining whatever. And then
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  Speaker 1: like the port where her dad's like I saw her
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  Speaker 1: and she's so talented, Like I never got that moment.
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  Speaker 1: My mom has never been like your dick joke was
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  Speaker 1: so well crested. I can't hold you back from the world.
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  Speaker 1: There was more of I'm not going to stop doing this.
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  Speaker 1: So they have kind to accept it, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily they are not on board. She tries, bless her
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  Speaker 1: heart in this day. Yeah, she even tries because she
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  Speaker 1: won't see I won't let her it into a show.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if she does, maybe one day, but I
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  Speaker 1: need a heads up, and it's gonna be a whole
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  Speaker 1: different set and it's gonna be super annoying um, but
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  Speaker 1: like she tries to watch stuff online or like she
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: tried to watch the Gym Jeffrey Show, which is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like news based, and she's like, I didn't like
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  Speaker 1: current events and she was like, I tried to watch
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  Speaker 1: it while I was fooling my laundries. So I tried.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, thanks mom, thank you. Every time
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  Speaker 1: she tries, it's just way worse. Like she tried to
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  Speaker 1: watch me I got head like a small non speaking
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  Speaker 1: role on the front show, and she's like, why did
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  Speaker 1: you look fat and nervous? And I was like I
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  Speaker 1: was I could not look nervous. I didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: lines and what do you mean fat? She's like she
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: just was like, am I just skinnier in knee life?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm like what I very? Your mom sounds like
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a very chill. She just has no fill. I mean,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I adhore it. I think it's really funny because she
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: has no filter. It's like and it like taught me
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to be like I'm still very. I mean I would
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like to be less sensitive, but what little insensitivity I
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: have to be? Like escrew it. It's like because my
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: mom has just been talking the entire time, I'm like,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I was some weird egg on Twitter. Wants to call
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: me a horror I'm like, well, get in line after
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: my mom. My mom's the ultimate egg. Come at my mom.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Does your mom member make comments on like your job? No,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: She's been surprisingly supportive from the get go. She did
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: question whether or not I'd be able to ever make
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: a living at it, and when I did decide to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: go to grad school to get a master's degree in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: screenwriting from Boston University, I hate to bring it up.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if if anyone knows this about me,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: because I would never mention it. But my mom she
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know if that's a good
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: idea of Caitlin. Um. You already don't use your first
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: film degree, so like what are you thinking? And I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was like, no, this is really going to work out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And look at me now we've got a movie podcast
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, I'm trying to draw okay, yeah. Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: My mom just sometimes will like look at something I did,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: or like not even the full thing, like an image
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of it, which she'll be like, I just it's just disgusting.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, your issue with it is that it's disgusting
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to you. And she's like it's good and I'm glad people,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but I find it disgusting. So cool, cool, I gotta
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: love our mom's I love I love an unfiltered mom. Um. Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So the very end of the story is, so she
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: leaves the wedding to go play soccer. She gets recognized
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: as being a very talented player, goes off to the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: US to play soccer in this you know, wonderful haven
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that is this country that loves the sport of soccer
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and loves female athlete, but not before a weird last
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: minute airport kiss. There's an airport kiss, and her parents
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: like finally she gives a speech, and then her dad
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: kind of was like, yeah, like we should let her
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be being do it she wants. And then she's like, yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I wanna this is like what's gonna make me happy,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: so please let me make this choice. And her family
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: comes around, and then like she and Jules makeup and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: they go off to play soccer together, but not before
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: there's a heatero kiss, and then that's pretty much the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: end of the movie. Let's take a quick break and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: then we will be right back and we're back. Sorry,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I had to go score some goals. Yeah, you can
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: only get one point in soccer right at a time.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: At a time, yes, okay, mean total one goal, close
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: one point? Quit it right. There is a quaffle, there
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: is a snitch, there are some bloodguers, and yeah, I'm exhausted.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to like go right to the end.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: But the logic of the airport kissing, it's so clearly
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: like to that I'm just like they got a note,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like they gotta note that. They're like, we gotta we
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: gotta see a kiss by the end of the movie.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: But the logic of that scene is so weird because
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like, based on everything we know about Jesse's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: family in this entire movie, they would not be like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, definitely make out with this guy at the airport.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: But the guy enters behind the family, and we're to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: believe the family just doesn't turn around, because this whole
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: scene takes place behind both families, Jesse's family and Jules's family,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and in front of Jules where you know she just
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: made up, but the reason they were fighting was this guy.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And like it's pretty like like Jess, that's a move
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to just be like, remember this guy who didn't want
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to fuck you feel like has like that and then
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and then I don't know, I was just like the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: logic of that scene was wild. It feels very tecked
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: on and like it wasn't given that much thought. Yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: where they're just like, oh, well, just everyone who isn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: indirectly evolved in the kiss avert your eyes as if
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: this is something that would happen. Very weird. So the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: first thing I just want to mention about this movie
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is that it is a movie about an Indian woman
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: directed by an Indian woman get Out. Yeah. I didn't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know that her name, and I am afraid I'm going
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to mispronounce it, but it's um grinder Chattah. She also
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: co wrote it with another Indian woman and her husband.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they were married at the time,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so it's those people involved. It's also several
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of the producers are Indian and um, like the cinematographer
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: is an Asian man. So it's like, yeah, we so
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: rare really come across this because oftentimes, if there's a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: movie that does tell the story of a person who
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: is marginalized, Scarlett handsome place to lead and it was
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: directed and produced and written by exclusively straight CIS white men,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and the best friend is played by Emma Stone and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the person who just simply doesn't know exactly. I think
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that has a lot The fact that this movie holds
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: up well. And that's not to say that this movie
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: is perfect, that it doesn't mishandle some things here and there,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: which we'll get into, but I think the fact that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it holds up as well as it does and handles
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the issues that this movie brings up because it was
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: made by someone who shares the experience of the character. So, um,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: she directed a lot of films I like, I just said,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: films like I'm sucking a genius. Okay, she's directed Bennett
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: like Beckham, Bride and Prejudice and Angus Thongs and Perfect Snogging,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a book series and a movie I really liked. Yeah, well,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about on the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants episode. Um,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: so there you go. So just get that in mind,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: because this is a movie that like explores a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of different things in terms of like a woman of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: color coming from a family of immigrants, having to deal
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: with racism, having to deal with sexism because she's existing
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: mostly in like a straight male, white space. There's different
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: things where she's self conscious about her body and different
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: things where her family, you know, has a very specific
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: idea of what she should and should not be doing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a very specific idea of who she should and should
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: not be romantically involved with. So she's dealing with all
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of these things, and she you know, finds herself at
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the intersection of being a woman, being a person of color,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: being a female athlete, and just the idea of like
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: femininity and masculinity and like how people perceive that to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: relate to sexual identity and like different things like that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: So this movie like tackles a lot of really interesting things,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: but it's so fun and it's funny when you was like, whoa,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it really does tackle all that stuff, but it's so
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: fun to watch. It doesn't feel I don't know, for me,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it doesn't beat you over the head with it. Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: it's not like kind of limited. Yeah, it's cool. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and also just god watching Jess have to deal with
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: so many things when you're just like, she's a good kid,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a kid just trying to pursue an extracurricular to save
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: her a lot, right, So, yeah, her sort of history
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: is that she has played soccer in a park mostly
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: with men. I think all of them are Indian men.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: If I'm not, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. They have like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a friendly rapport, but they also like will make sexist
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: comments to her a lot, where you know, they talk
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: about like her hitting the ball, like the soccer ball
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: with her chest and like how like how can you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: do that when you've got and then like later, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you do it anyway, right, yeah, because women have a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: higher threshold for pay. Later in the story, is revealed
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that she has like a burn scar on her leg,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: which she is ashamed about, and we realized that probably
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons she's ashamed about this is because
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: her mother makes her feel shame about it, because she's like, like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: how can you be showing your legs in front of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: all these men, Like you should cover that up, And
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: then like the guys who she plays soccer with their like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that's disgusting, Like, oh god. And every
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: time she's confronted with anything like that, like any sort
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of sexism, she challenges it, which is a really nice
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: thing to see because usually in movies a character will
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: say a really horribly sexist thing and no one's even
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: aware that it was sexist. The character is just barrel
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: through and it goes unchallenged. Yeah, at the beginning, watching
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Jess play soccer with the guys and like they were
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: giving her a lot of ship, But it felt like
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: so much in this movie feels so like realistic in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: way is that team movies rarely do where they're being
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: sexist towards her. But you can all you can also
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure like we've all had this experience, you
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: can also understand why she stays because they're awful to her,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but they also know she's a good player. There's where
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: else is she going to go? Like, there's there's all
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: these like dynamics that play where I don't even think
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that just like dislikes those guys. But it's like if
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: she wants to play at the beginning of the movie,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: that's the only way she knows how, And so she
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: challenges it and then compartmentalizes it sort of on and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: off in a way that felt, I don't know, like
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: reminded me of being a teenager in any male dominated
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: teen space. Yeah, you're just like, Okay, this is the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: battle I'm going to push back on, and this is
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the one where I'm just gonna pretend I didn't hear anything, right,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't have any other options to play until
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: she gets sort of recruited to be on this team, which,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like Karen Nitley's character says like, oh, they finally let
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: us like form women's side, and it sounds like you're
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: in Nightly. I think Jewels, I think says, or maybe
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Joe says this, that it was like Jewels was the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: one who's really really pushing for because he was playing
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for the men's club and she was hanging around, right,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and so she just I like to imagine her like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: lingering around and then waiting for one of the men
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to get injured and be like, you're our coach now
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: because he couldn't play anymore, so he had to coach.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And I think she just like scooped him up and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was like, you were my coach now, thank you job.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: She just purposely Tanya Harding is one of them. I'm
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: so sorry your knees are gone better coach me and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other ladies. I love that fan theory.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he doesn't want to date her. It's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like you hired someone to bash my knee in and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: she's like, it was never proven, and it's never proven.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Cre knightly glue him straight up. There is a character
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: among the men that she plays with in the park
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: named Tony, who is a close friend of her feminist
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: icon queer icon because later in the movie he comes
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: out to her, I forgot about that, so did I. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So basically anytime she's confronted with any sort of misogyny
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: or racism, Like there's a moment towards the end when
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they're playing a game and one of the players on
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the opposing team calls her like a slur for Pakistani people,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and then she like she sort of pushes and kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of comes at the player who did this, and then
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: she gets a red card and then her coach, Joe
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like yells at her for doing that, and she's like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you don't understand, like this person like called me a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: slur and she's like, well, you wouldn't get it, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm Irish, so yeah, I get it. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: then that goes on challenge and I'm just like I'm sorry,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure I people in England do experience some
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: sort of prejudice, but it seemed kind of apples and oranges. Yeah, Ok,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that was like one of the few moments of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: movie where else like I didn't like how that there,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and just the way it played out felt weird and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: not not quite lining up with like what it seems
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like the characters would expect the joke character because like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it makes sense that Jeff got angry then that happened,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and but it didn't make sense to me that if
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: he knew that that he would yell at her, because
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that's not really didn't seem like the kind of person
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he was. And then even after she explained it, he
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was kind of just like, I'm irish, We've got to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like something a white dude would do to me ore,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Like I could see that happening. Absolutely. I think it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: just came as a surprise to me that she didn't
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: say like no, like it's not the same, like you're
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: still a white man. Yeah, I guess it's like when
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: he said that, I think that it was like, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: now that issue is resolved, it doesn't seem like they
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: really talked about it. I don't know, but um, anyway,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: So my point is I really enjoyed seeing any time
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: she experienced, you know, for the most part, racism sexism, etcetera.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: She challenges it and it's just a really cool thing
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to see in a movie. I also wanted to talk
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: about the idea of like femininity and how that's an
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: expectation of like especially for jewels. That was interesting for
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: me because that was the one part was not my
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: background at all. It was to an extent where it's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like because I think it was my dad wanted a boy,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and so my mom was like, I would just treat
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: her like a little dude. It's the same ship. So
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like I grew up a tomboy for that reason, because
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I would watch sports with my dad. I would watch wrestling.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I was super aggressive. My brother had my mom's personality
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: where he was very patient and calm, and I was
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: just a lunatic, like I just came out of the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: womb in insane person smashing bottles. But like it was
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: so it was like me and my dad got along.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: But as soon as I got close to puberty and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: my parents tried. Obviously they failed, but they were like,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you can't talk to men outside the classroom. You can
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: only talk to them in like an educational setting in
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: about school. Obviously, I lied straight to their face right away,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it was just it was like this weird thing where
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like I used to like wear baggy overalls like and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: then on top of it, I would wear sports jersey
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: like that was my m O. And then it wasn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: until like I guess my hormones started kicking in and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted attention for men that I was like, ah, ship,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I can't dress like you anymore. And then I started
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: like re eating like teen Vogue and like trying to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: do the face makeup that they told you to do,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and it was just god awful. Oh yeah, it didn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: make sense. God, I used to I still have like
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: just like all these members of like a specific issue
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of teen Vogue where it like would tell you what
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: shape your body was, and it was like three of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: like the same shape. And then it was like garbage,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like a pile of garbage. And the end you're like, oh, okay,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: well that's me there. I am feeling scene. Hey, you
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: play the Obo so well. I should I should have
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: asked my Obo and Stark Toorker for a body image advice.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, you and your crushed lung or dope, great,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: um a curvy spine. What you need is an a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: line skirt and it's fine, but no. So like in
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the first scene that we meet Jewels in like, her
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: mother is taking her bra shopping and she keeps saying like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: oh these bras, will you know, booster cleavage and like,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and then Jewels has no interest in presenting as feminine
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: or like, you know, wearing quote unquote girly things or
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: like lacey bras or anything like that, so she goes
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: over to the sports bra section and this sort of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: sets up an ongoing struggle between her and her mother
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: throughout the movie where her mom, you know, wants her
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to be more feminine, wants her to be girlier, doesn't
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: like that she plays soccer foot football. Um, but she
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't like forbid Jewels from playing it like Jesse's parents do. Um.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: But she's just like, oh, you know, if you just
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: like dressed differently, you know, boys would like you. And
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Jules meanwhile, is just like, I don't care about that,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna wear what I want to wear. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: don't feel the need to present as super super feminine
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in like the clothes I wear and like my hairstyle
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and things like that. And it seems like part of
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the reason Jules's mom puts up with it is because
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Jules's dad feels so differently, where like Jules's dad is
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: very supportive of Jules playing soccer, I think partially because
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he really likes soccer, so he's like, oh, yeah, this
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: works out is a common interest, and that's it seems
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like part of the reason why Jules gets to continue
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: playing in a way that Jess doesn't, because Jess doesn't
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: really have a parental ally until the very end. I'm
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: wondering how you both felt about this, But I felt
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: like the way that Jules's mom forced femininity and and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I think kind of a very stereotypically hetero form of
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: femininity fed right into like the way that this movie
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: deals with like queer panic. Because Jules's mom, it comes
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: up with her, I feel like, almost more so than
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: any other character, and it comes up with a lot
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of people. There's a moment at the climax of the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: movie where Jules's mom gets so upset thinking that Jess
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and Jules are queer and they're together that she crashes
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a wedding, which is like, that's bananas. There's the moment
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: where she hears Jess and Jules arguing and the way
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the scene is presented him like, is they're actually arguing
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: about a boy. So it's okay, and I don't love
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: how that's presented, but they're actually arguing over Joe. But
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of like mishearing mishaps in this movie,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and Jules's mom things they're arguing about their relationship. She
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: goes downstairs and bursts into tears. Uh, And it's like
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: freaking out with Jules's dad. That see, I thought was
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. The climactic wedding crash er queer
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: panics seemed seemed a little bit out of nowhere because
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Jules's mom in kind of like two thirds through the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: movie is like, actually, I like soccer and I want
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to understand it and I respect your choices. But then
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: freaks out again. But so that was a little weird.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: But but the first time she significantly panics thinking that
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Jules is queer, um, she at least contextualizes it and
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: explains part of the reason why she's so nervous. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: she cites George Michael and how George Michael was treated
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in the media for being gay and she worries that
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and it's a silly example, but the way she explains
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it does make sense in like panicked mom logic of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like I've seen someone who I like, George Michael, be
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: abused in the media for being gay, and what if
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that happens to my kid? And that's sort of when
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: she said it that way, I was like, Okay, that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: is like a really good move by this movie to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: contextualize the panic a little bit. She's still wrong, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: at least we understand a little bit better why. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: also got the sense though, that that was only part
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of her reasoning for being so upset by it, which
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: we learned later when she yells, get your lesbian feet
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: out of my shoes, like, there's still certainly some like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: homophobia there and it might not be the worst case
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we've ever seen, but like she regardless, she is a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: very upset by her thinking that she might have a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: daughter who is a lesbian. Yeah, she's and I think
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: she would be upset about that, you know today, like
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: even if you know, like, yeah, she still has her
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: own hang ups because get your lesbian feet out of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: my shoes, like okay, Well, she's also she's problematic in
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: other ways because she does a few microaggressions towards Jess,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: where like whenever she first meets Jess, when they're in
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: like Jules's room, she learns her name and she's like, oh, Jess,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: is that Indian, basically saying like that doesn't sound like
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: an Indian name, Like what what I don't understand? And
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: then she says something like I hope you teach my
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: daughter a bit about your culture, you know, to respect
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: your elders. And then she says, Oh, you're a lucky girl,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: because I expect that your parents are fixing you up
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: with a handsome young doctor soon, aren't they. So just
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: like taking stereotypes that she knows about Indian culture and
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: just assuming that they apply to Jess. And this is
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: an example of a time where like Jess doesn't challenge it,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: but it makes perfect sense. Why, Like you don't want
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to like your friend whose mom you've just met, you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: not going to like necessarily stand up and be like, um, actually,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: here's all the things that are problematic about everything you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: just said. So that like tracked for me, But it
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: just like, I mean, this is all to say that
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I think all the characters in this movie are like
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: characterized very well. They feel like real people. Thought and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: time was put into developing them. So even though like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Jules Mom is problematic in many ways, the movie handles
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: it in such a way where we the audience realize
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: what she's saying is problematic, wherein a lot of movies
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that care and time isn't bothered with at all. So,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are people like her, like like Jules Mom,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like we've met them. But yeah, it's just I find
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it interesting that each of these characters, problematic though they
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: may be, are still developed in such a way by
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: like the writers that they're used to like demonstrate the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: biases and the microaggressions and stuff like that a character
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: or a person like Jess would experience. So I thought
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that was all handled very well. Let's take a quick break.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I have to go score some more goals and then
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back. I wanted to talk a little
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: bit about the I mean, I don't have that much
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to say because I'm not super critical of it, but
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: just saying that the team dynamic um inside of the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: team that Joe coaches that Chess and Jewels are a
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: part of is like a really positive community. They're all
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: generally very supportive of each other. They'll like dig get
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: each other sometimes, but it's in a very friendly way
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: most of the time. There's a scene that I really
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: liked where Mel, the captain of the team Jewels, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a few other teammates ask Jess questions about her culture
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: because they just don't know, Like they don't understand why
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: is she not allowed to play soccer? What like like
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: what are the cultures rules around dating? Like they just
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. So they ask in a way that I thought,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm not told, but it seems like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: like a very respectful conversation. They asked respectfully she answered,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, we know. And I was like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that's good. That seems like how that should go, especially
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: when you contrast that with how Jewels is. Um approaches
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: those same sort of topics where she's like making assumptions
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and then being like, well, this is how it must
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: be for you. So I already know everything and I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: don't need to ask questions because I got this, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, so I think I agree that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I think those were handled better, and yeah, I enjoyed
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: that scene. I also like the scene where um she
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: has to get back to her wedding like her sister's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: wedding at the end, so her teammates are helping her
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: put on Yeah that I still I don't know how
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to wear one of those things, but everyone on the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: team did so. But it's like even that to put
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it on me. It's not sweet though that it feels
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: weird as an adult to have your mom come behind
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you because she has to put it on, like she's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: putting it on. That's how she knows, like you know
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: some people. So it's just a very like like but
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: pottery scene from Ghost where my mom was just wrapping
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: her arms around me and like folding a sorry, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is uncomfortable. So that's great. Oh
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: that's a beautiful just go staying with your own mom
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: with the same song playing in the background, the whole
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: fully unchained melody. Another thing I wanted to talk about
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: is this is a movie about women's sports, A woman
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: in sports Goals Kicking. This is to say that there
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: are not that many movies about female athletes women playing sports.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: A few examples include, aside from Bennett, like Beckham, a
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: league of their own, stick it, bring it on, whip it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of them have it. And then because you
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: get say, well, I guess if you replace it with her,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that would be bad, never mind it being the sport
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: or the the ball. Gotta Kick it Up is another one.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: An they've got like Blue Crush, Million Dollar Baby, Girl, Fight,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Love and Basketball, She's the Man I Tania, And then
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a few lesser known ones that I found out via
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a very thorough Google search, like Gracy Personal Best Ice, Princess,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: The Cutting Edge, Princess Rules never lesser known. Well, if
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: these are like Disney Channel originals, which I feel like
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: some of these are, I don't know what they are. Um,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Double Team is another one. So this is like roughly
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: twenty movies throughout the course of history that are well
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: known enough that they show up in a Google search,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: versus like eight thousand movies about men playing sports. So
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I mean we see this all the time, where like
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: biopics of them are about men much fewer or about women. Um,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know, movies about the mill Terry, almost all of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: them feature male characters, know them about women in the military.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So it's like, and that's a media issue where I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: feel like that The counter argument that I can hear
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: my cousin saying is like, well, people don't watch women's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: sports as much. But that is like snake eating its
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: own tail. A game, it's a movie. I'm not bend
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it like Beckham. Wasn't just like a filmed soccer match, right,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And it's like if young women don't see female athletes
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: depicted on screen in the like celebratory way that it
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is and bend it like Beckham when they're younger, then
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: they're probably less likely to want to play that sport,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like that's a proven thing over and over. Why does
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: so many little girls want to be princesses? Because that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: what they see. And so it's like if they see
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: other stuff, then of course, you know, the cultural landscape
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: will gradually shift. And so maybe I wouldn't hate sports
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: balls so much if there were movies of women doing
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it more. Well, you would have liked hoop goals more.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: If I had been, I would have been slamming hoop goals.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: We've been kicking the basketball. Gotta kick it up, Gotta
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: kick that basketball up into the air for crying out loud. Also,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of the movies that I named are about
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: sports that I would say are at least perceived to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: be more feminine because it's either dancing, figure skating, gymnastics.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: A couple of them are like we dominated sports right,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: A couple of them are like League of their Owners baseball,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: A couple of them are about boxing, some of them
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: about basketball. But yeah, I feel like, if you're going
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to have a mainstream movie about women doing a sport
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that is commercially successful, chances are it's like cheerleading or
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like figure skating or something that we as a society
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: already are okay with women doing. I think the ones
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like Bennett, like Beckham, or a League of their own,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: or more outliers like even though they were, you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they're popular movies. They hold up, but they're not the rule.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Yeah, I think I tend to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: not like sports movies very much, especially like I nothing
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: will ever make me enjoy a boxing movie, except I
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: didn't really enjoy Girl Fight. I like sports movies, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: maybe it's because I grew up watching it. Honestly, I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: was thinking about it. Have there been more movies about
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: dogs in sports? Because of all the Airbud sequels. I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: bet there are more Airbud movies than there are movies
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: featuring female athletes. I've for sure seen a movie about
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a monkey playing hockey called m v P most valuable
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: primate more than movies about women playing sports. That said
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: highly recommended that mates are going to grow up to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: play hockey because they got exposed to it. I mean,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and that's why there's so many professional monkey hock players
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: right now, because media is influential. I keep saying it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: It is a two thousand feature film that sparked the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: m v P franchise. The film's title character, it's Jack
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: is a chimpanze. What else does you play in future movies?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, okay, m v P two is skateboarding,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: most vertical private, but that the last one is X
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: game themed, most extreme print. That's that's m XP. It's
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: kind of a different but it's the third one. We
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: already know. It's a proven product. Okay, well now, oh
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and it is up an extension of the Airbud franchise.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Well, thank goodness for you know, animals
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and sports and all the representation that they get. Um.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the love Triangle. Yeah, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: would argue that it kind of has no place in
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: this movie. I don't like that it's there. I it
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: why it's there. It's it's a way to heighten the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: tension of the story and to introduce more conflict, but
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: to me, it just kind of cheapens the whole narrative
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: because so it's Joe is their coach. They both develop
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: an interest in him, which to me makes sense. You know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he's cute, he's respectful of them. He like, if you
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: watch Million Dollar Baby, Clint Eastwood is over here being like, oh,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I don't teach girls because I don't think they're people.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And I feel like this similar thing happens in Girl Fight,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: where like male sporty mentors are like reluctant to teach
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: girls how to sport, but in this movie, he's just like, Yep,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this is my job and I'm fine with it, and
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I'm respectful of all the women on this team. So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: that was nice to see. So at least attracts why
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: they would be interested in him, because he's you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: nice to them and he's respectful of them. But they
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: both have a crush on him, and it drives a
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: wedge between their friendship, which is like his just become
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: such a lazy writing move. Yeah, it's just and it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: not even like the joke character that I had a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: particular issue with I thought it was like, in some
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: ways positive to see a man fully comfortable with and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: acknowledging the skills of a woman is equal to his own.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Like I think that there was like that's a generally
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: good thing to see, especially in a sports movie. I'm guessing,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, like that they're all the scenes
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: between Jess and Jewels, they just felt like a little
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: weird of like I don't I don't know if they're
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: like that whole Cure Nightley bursting onto a balcony and
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: going you bid. And also I'm like, would Jesse have
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: kissed her coach at a club? I mean maybe, I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just felt it did feel like a
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: little cheap. And with the wide array of things like
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: issues this movie addresses, there's also more interesting from a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: story point, more interesting things for them to have been
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: in conflict about. I don't know. I kind of liked
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it just because I've seen that happen with my friends
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, like two good girlfriends in college,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: like gotten to like almost an exact parallel situation, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: just like this is gonna sound however it's gonna sound,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: but like when you're not what's represented as a standard
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: of beauty, I would say, and you don't know how
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to Like I didn't know how to make my body attractive,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: you know, especially like previously having been overweight. And then
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like if you're Indian, you've got all this hair coming
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: in and you don't know how to get rid of
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it because your mom's like, who's seeing you anyway? And
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like everyone, moms, every goddamn locker room, help me,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and like being super selfconscious bout my body. And then
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like this weird thing at the end where it's like
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the coach picks the brown girl like to me like
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: blew my mind, where it's like, yeah, get it. Bit
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: like I I didn't think of it that way. Yeah, well,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I did appreciate that. I liked that, you know, you see,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like an interracial romantic relationship represented and positive way. It
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be groundbreaking for film. It was. But I guess
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: what I didn't like is that the fact that these
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: two women are in conflict with each other over a man.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: That's the part of it that kind of bugged me.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: And but again, I mean it's those things do play
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: out in real life all the time, where so it's
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: not unheard of or it's not even that it's unrealistic.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: But I think it was just an easy choice, where,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like Jamie with You said, with all the other things
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that this movie explores in terms of like, you know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: just being one of the few women of color on
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: this team of mostly white girls. You know, the pressure
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: of her family. There's like sources of conflict a bunch
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: of times, and Jewels never really says any right, Like
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: how that triangle with shoehorned in though, is a bit odd. Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like a studio note
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to like we need more drama or something like that,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: but um, yeah, I just feel that it was a
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: little unnecessary. I think that there was enough sources of
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: pension and conflict in the movie already that that didn't
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: need to be there. Um limitless. Yeah, So I don't know.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Um really good on the Pinky character because I like
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the relationship that Dress has with her sister too. That
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: felt like for the I mean Pinky, I feel like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: is um that's just as older sister who's getting married.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's like a little more cartoony than
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: most of the characters we came across in this movie
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: where like she's she's a very big personality, but like
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: at the same time and it she reminds me of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: my cousin not where she's like this big personality and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: like doesn't have a filter, but also is kind of
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: traditional in the way she's like choosing to go about
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: her life where she is getting married to someone her
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: parents approve of. She loves him, it's what she wants
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to do, this is the life she wants. And then
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: she's also like super loud and very opinionated, and there's
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of different elements of her parents seem to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: approve of Pinky's choices more than they do of Jesse's.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, but but also Pinky is like by
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: far the more outgoing, and like Pinky and Jess are
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: in conflict a number of times in this movie, one
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: time when Pinky's fiance's family thinks that Jess is gay
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: and then cancel the wedding and then to be fair,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the good things I liked about
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Jesse's family is they do like acknowledge that she is
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a generally honest person and believe her when she's like, no,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: that's they misunderstood, that's not what was happening, and they're like, okay,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: well you're honest, and they funked up, and but but
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Pinky is so mad. But later on that's resolved and
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Pinky helps Jess sneak away and play soccer a couple
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: different times. She covers for her a lot. Yeah, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and but it would have read me out and goddamn heartbeak,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: really did he know you were doing comedy? So who
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: knew my best friend in high school? And then a
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: couple of you know, culture friends in high school. Okay,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: but like no one inside the family absolutely not. Yeah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: so I guess Pinky is not as much of anarc
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: as your brother, what because think you? I mean? But
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: but she is kind of selectively. She She's like the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: kind of character that as long as, like what Jesse
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: is doing is not in conflict with what she wants,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: she'll go along with it. But if something like if
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Jesse's soccer got in the way of her wedding, which
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: it does, Pinky's like, no, you're coming to my wedding,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? And the whole third
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: act of the movie is like or like the very end,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: were just goes to the wedding, then the soccer game,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: then the wedding again is done. I forgot exactly how
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: that like sequence plays out, but it's Jess basically decides, no,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going with like the duty I feel
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: toed to my family, or I'm going to the wedding,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and her dad is pushing for that because there's like
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: that whole phone seene where Jess is like, that's the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: day of my game, and he's like, yeah, you're going
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to the wedding, And then Tony is the one who's like,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you have to go in Socca and blah blah blah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: and Jess is like, I can't. And then Jess's dad
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: comes in. He's like what's going on? And Tony's like
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Socca and and then Jesse's dad is the one who's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: like soccer, you know, and and so her dad is
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the one who's hiding that Jess has gone from both
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: her sister and her mother until Jess gets back. There
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: is an element of and it did again. It's like
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: this movie does so well generally that it's like not
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the biggest deal. But if we're getting like nitpicky, both
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Jesse's dad and Jules's Dad end up for their respective
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: storylines being the good guy of the family, which is
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: kind of a trope I feel like, comes up. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: can't think of it, but like there is you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like the mothers of both of those families are the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: stricter ones. They're they're harder on their daughters. They're more
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: critical of them. The dads are critical and we'll back
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the mom's up, but are usually the ones who go
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes and are like, but it's okay, I'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the nice one. And that happens with I mean Jules Dad.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think at any point is made to seem
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: strict in any way. He's just like soccer rules. In fact,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: he says something like, um, you know, if our daughter
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: is more interested in playing football than chasing boys, Um
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: over the moon about that, which you know is we
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: can unpack that where it's like, well, what if she
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: did want to chase boys and you know, explore her sexuality?
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? Dad? But um, but like his
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: character is like, I mean, he's barely a character at
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: least just as Dad, we get some context, feels he
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: feels right because he was was it, a cricket player,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like that the story gives him a
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: little bit more context for why he's sort of trying
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to protect her um and things like that, because he
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: also had experienced a lot of racism when he tried
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to play cricket they kicked him out. Because Yeah, I
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I noticed that too about the parents, that both of
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: the mothers were way less chill, just like we're trying
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: to either like suppress their daughters in some way where
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: they like, you can't play soccer, or trying to like
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: force an idea of femininity onto them. I feel like
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: they were extra upset when because both families at one
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: point or another think that their daughter is queer with
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the other character um. And yeah, the way like Juels
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: mom handles it, there's like she crashes the wedding, like
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you said, like screams about shoes. And then there's a
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: scene after that in the car where she's like, you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you're a lesbian and she's like, uh, just because I
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: wear khakis and play sport doesn't make me a lesbian.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But like, also Jules's tone during that scene is a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: little problem. Yeah, so seam plays out, yeah, because then
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she says like there's like a pause and once joelss
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: mom realizes and this happens with both families once they
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: realized that their daughters aren't gay, and they're like, oh,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: gay people are fine. It's yeah, yeah, I another storation
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: til I'm gonna make it real quick. I was in
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: high school and like, there was this girl bowling my
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: friend by like spreading rumors about her being a Lots fan.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: So I thought it would be funny if I came
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: onto her because she was homophobic. So I did that,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: and then it turns out it wasn't just her that
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: was homophobic. It was a whole bunch of people that
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: are homophobic. I accidentally got myself semi gay bash when
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I was walking down the hallway and I was like,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not actually, yeah, that isn't the high school things
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: to happen to, Like, I know what I'll do, and
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: then it's like, no, everyone's paid full, everyone and everybody
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: here to help it. I was like, oh no, god,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that's the words there the way scene with just and
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: her mom at the end, it is kind of like
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: played for laughs where um or no sorry Jules and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: her mom not to me Ja names uh, but you know,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Jule says, besides being a lesbian. It's not that big
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: a deal. And then her mom is you know, goes
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: full hypocrite once she realizes her daughter is straight, Thank
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: god is She's like, oh yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. Uh,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: and they're all like t he he he wear straight?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: But then oh, so the last thing I wanted to
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: talk about was so the way they deal with female queerness.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: This movie comes out in the weird place. It's not
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: totally bad, but it's weird. It's not fully accepted. But
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: we also have Tony, who is a queer male character
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: who I forgot about his storyline, but it is I
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: feel like it is fully realized within the movie. There's
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: just so much going on, but Tony is the one
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: boy on the soccer team that Jess plays on at
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the beginning who is not horrible to her and it's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: nice to her and they get along and everyone thinks
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: he has a crush on her, but it turns out
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: he just respects her. The twist is he's gay and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: he respects her. So, I mean, I liked that scene
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: where he you know, and just Jess as being like,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you know where she's coming from, and she's like kind
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: of grasping at straws and just wants to stop disappointing
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: her family, and she's like, so do you like me?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: We should we should just want we should just get married,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and in a way that if Tony were interested in her,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: would probably have been very hurtful of, like, well, I've
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: decided to settle here. I am, I've done it. But
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: then Tony is like, no, I just respect you. Also,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gay. That's I mean. Jess is like, oh, that's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you know, she's fine with it. Then there, But she's
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: the only character, as far as we know, who knows
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: about him being gay. He's the only person that he
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: comes out too. So I think that if more people
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: like in Jessice community knew about it, I feel like
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the movie might have handled it similarly to how like
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: female queerness is perceived. So I think in general, yeah,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I mean it's this is like characters in two thousand
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: two responding to queerness in the way that a lot
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: of people in two thousand two would have responded to that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I think it's interesting and positive that
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Jess is still very respectful of him, and you know,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: he comes out to her and she's just like great,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it doesn't change their friendship at all or anything like that, Like, yeah,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I thought that all was handled very well. Yeah. And
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: then there's that the last minute scene with him where
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: he says because he is so supportive of Jess his
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: soccer career and doesn't think that her parents will ever
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: support it, and so he's like, I'll marry her, you know,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and the last things like I'll marry her. And I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: was so nervous because two thousand two, I was so
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: nervous that she was going to outand same same I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: was like, So I was like, oh my god, I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: feel like in two thousand two people wouldn't have thought
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: of as much of that. But she doesn't. She just
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: says nice try Tony, like I need to beat tell
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the truth, and then she tells the truth about herself.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I was just there was a moment where it's like,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: oh my god, so sad. The same but she doesn't.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Another another win, another character doing a just basic decency. Yeah,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: exactly his character. Also, like the big tournament at the end,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: all of the guys that she had been playing with
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: in the park show up to that game to watch.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Most of them are like, you know, very toxic masculinity. Bros.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, women playing soccer there boobs and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: oh how do they even do it? And they're like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: just like really over sexualizing and objectifying all the players
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: on the team, and uh, Tony says something like can't
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you just see them as footballer? Like again, feminist icon,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: queer icon um. But an earlier scene shows a bunch
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: of pinkies friends watching the men play soccer in the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: park and then similarly objectifying them and like, oh, look
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: at his like sticks pack, and yeah, i'd I want
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to wank him off, And then Jess calls them a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: bunch of which sorry I did laugh that. Yeah, she
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: does slut shame her sister's friends, which you know, is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: not the best thing that's ever happened. It's not. It
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: feels so bad when you think someone's like on your
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: level of creep. Like there was a hot bartender at
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the theater and I turned to another
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: girl and I was like, that dude is so smoking hot.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I would totally funk him. And then she was just
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: like oh, and I was like, oh no, that is
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: literally every time I'm like I have a crush on someone.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: And then Caitlin's like, show me a picture and then
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I do, and then she's like, Okay, it's like I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: need to dine. Oh I didn't even want to run
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: into traffic and get hit by a car. I'm sorry,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I'm so many tepid. Okay, it's from you. When I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: hit you with the visual, it's so it's so unchilled.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: We'll post it on our Instagram. No, I don't. I'm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: never going to show you anyone. I'm never ever well.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I it's you know, what we all taste is subjective
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and you can like whoever you want. Mine's kind of bad,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I'll say it. Mine's weird. It's all over the place.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Does anyone have any other thoughts about the movie? But
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: it's like back, a's interesting that a movie about women
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: playing sports does have a title where a man's name
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: is in the title that, yeah, is that really him?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: At the end like yeah, I think I feel like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: they get like archived footage or something, and I don't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: know it's a hologram. Um. I do want to say
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that there is a clip of Mia Hamm playing soccer
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: in the movie, and the clip of soccer, Yeah, she
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: and I share the same birthday. Um, so we are
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: sisters twins or Twin Sisters Birthday Twin is Patrick Swayzey. Yeah,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I guess overall, like I like this movie a whole lot,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: just on a base level of it being like a fun,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: entertaining movie, and then also, you know, watching it through
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the Bechtel cast lens, I really enjoy that it explores
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of different things that we tend to talk
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: about movies not paying any attention to. So the fact
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: that this movie addresses like the concept of femininity and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: different things about sexuality, different things about racism, and all
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: kinds of things that most movies just completely gloss over
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: or don't pay any attention to or don't care about addressing.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I really like all of that, and I like that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: it's effectively about a woman who is kind of she's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: got a struggle where she wants to pay respect to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: her family and honor them in their wishes, but also
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: has the agency to like do her own thing, and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: too she wants to pursue her own goals and make
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: her own choices. But yeah, it's just I think it's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a great movie where you know, women are driving the narrative, Um,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: women are challenging different things, women have agency, women are
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: kicking ass and kicking balls. So yeah, I don't know.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: And then, um, really quick, does this movie past the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Bactel test one? Yeah, we don't even need to get
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: into citing specific scenes because it's basically if there are
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: two women talking in the movie. Almost every significant female
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: pairing in this movie v it passes at one point,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and usually especially between Jess and Jules, passes significantly because
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: they talking about they want to stop talking about soccer.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Jess and her sister, Pinky, Jess and her mom, Um,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Jules and her mom. Yeah, Jess and jules mom. Every
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, it's great. I'm always on the lookout
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: for movies that pass all four of the following test
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the Bechtel test, the DuVernay test, the Vito Rosso test,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and the Maco Morey test. This movie passes all for Yeah,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: that's wonderful, because you've got um so Bechtel tests we've
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: already discussed um. The Duverney test requires that characters who
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: are people of color have fully realized lives rather than
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: service scenery for white stories, so this movie passes that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: test with flying colors. The Maco more test requires that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: there's at least one prominent female character who has her
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: own narrative arc which is not about supporting a man's story,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: passes that test with flying colors. The Veto Russo test,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: the movie passes if it contains a character that is
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: identifiably lgbt Q. So we've got that in Tony. Character
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: is not solely or predominantly defined by their sexual orientation
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: or gender identity, which I would say is true for
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Tony too. And this is where it is a little tricky.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: The character must be tied into the plot in such
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: a way that their removal would have a significant effect.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: I think, so, yeahs Hers, Yeah, he's the one that
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: makes her at the end of the wedding. He's pivotal
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: to that. And then right, okay, yeah, so it passes off. Hurrah.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Well with that, let's rate it on our nipple scale. Well,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: we we rate the movie based on its portrayal of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: women zero to five nipples. I'm going to give this
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: like a a four and half. I think I think
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: certain characters and how they handle the topic of queerness,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: specifically jewels and jewels is mom I think could be
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: handled a little bit better. And I think that's if
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: this movie was rewritten today. Those problems would be solved
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: because this is an extremely progressive movie, and there's also
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: a few I feel like I should have said earlier
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: there are a few um queer slurs that go unchallenged
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: in the movie. Where the racial slurs are challenged, the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: queer slurs are not. Yes, and then also like a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: half nipple off for the fact that the movie has
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: this love triangle that doesn't need to be there. Yeah,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it just kind of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: cheapens it a little bit. But overall, it's really cool
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: to see a movie about a woman of color. We
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: get all the context of her family. Great movie, great characters.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Female characters are very well written and well developed. We
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: so rarely see this. The fact that it's written and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: directed by an Indian woman is amazing. I'm so glad
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that this movie exists. And if you haven't seen it,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: check it out. A sap so four and a half
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: nipples I'm going to give to to Jess, one to Jewels,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: one to Pinky, and a half nipple to Tony Cool.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I'm I'll go with four and a half as well.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Let me let me see if I can do this
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: in sports terms. Okay, I'd say this soccer ball fumbles
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: female queerness, but really dunks in every other card uh huh,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: time out. I like this. The only penalty would be
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: what I already said was a fumble in conclusion in okay,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and now I'm canceling. We're in overtime now and overtime
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: fifth quarter. I would say that in all series is
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: when I when I saw this movie when I was
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: a teenager, demonstrates the importance of portraying every culture possible
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: in film and in mainstream film, because I know, I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: for sure didn't grow up around many Indian people at all,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and I learned stuff from this movie. And I learned.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was like this was my first exposure
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: to a culture I wasn't familiar with, and it's done
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: so responsibly and respectfully that I think if more cultures
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: were portrayed in this way in film, the world would
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: just be a better place. I really like this movie,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy that we we can keep watching it
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: and feeling happy about watching it without feeling guilty about
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, So four and a half nipples. Giving
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: two to Jess, I'll give one to Jewels, give one
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: to Pinky, and then I give one. I'll give my
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: last half one to Jess's mom because I like her.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I would say, well, I'm going to be biased, so
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give four point eight nipples. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: give it a handicap for the time period, just because
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: this is the first movie where I got to see
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: someone represent what it feels like my story on screen.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: And it's like it was everything to me, you know,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: like it was just the coolest movie and I loved
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: it like top to bottom. You know, yeah, I also
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: want to see your exact story on screen, like that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: would be such a fun movie to watch. Who are
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: you giving your nips to? Um? Give two to Jess,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: one to her mom, one to Karen Nightly how much
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: does that like me? So too? And then I have
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: point eight left. I'll give point eight to Tony, you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: because it was like a great character who like feminist icon,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: queer icon killing it? It? Give us a Tony spin off? Serious?
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