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GamerGate Vet Jordan Owen: Let's not do Gamergate 2! Terminal Case of TDS | Fundraiser Request · Honey Badger Radio

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to begin our show? We explain I guess all right, I can explain
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what we're doing. So we are responding to two videos. But like they're
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specifically timestamped by a gentleman named Jordan Owen. Now, some of you guys,
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yeah, Jay the video the videos were made by Jordan Owen. They
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were sent to us by Great Indoors, and Jordan Owen made two videos.
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One of them is called you See If I Got this titled right, Autism,
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Misogyny and Goldfish Panties, and the other one is called Let's Not Do
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gamer Gate two R Sweet Baby, inc. And Okay, so a little
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bit of backstory. I am aware of Jordan Owen because back in twenty fourteen,
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twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, when I was starting to get involved with
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this whole men's shoes thing and like the truth about feminism and stuff like that,
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I was watching a lot of different kinds of content. I was watching
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Migtow guys, and at the time I didn't really know much about what it
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was, right, So I was watching Barbarossa, I was watching Stardusk,
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I was watching Karen, I was watching Alison Honey, Badger, Radio,
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Janice, you know, freakin' Willy Bumblebee. Like, just lots of different
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people talking about this kind of stuff, and Jordan Owen was one of those
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people he was. I don't really know, like, you know, if
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he goes back to like the days of le lay online atheist movement or whatever,
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but I know that he was making content on YouTube. There was another
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guy who was his friend named Davis Areni, who knows all the keyboard shortcuts
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and and when Gamergate happened, Jordan Owan was a vocal part of that.
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I mean, not quite much like to the level of say, you know,
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Carl, but he was definitely making videos about that stuff. And at
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one point I remember Jordan Owen and Davis Areni came together and they had the
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intention of making some kind of a film documentary about either Anita Sarkisian or Gamergate
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or something. I think it was about Anitas Arkisian and because or Zoe quit,
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it might have been that, I'm not I don't remember exactly. I
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remember they were. They were pushing for this thing. I think they got
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it funded and it never happened for whatever reason. I think they had a
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falling out whatever, I don't know. I think what it was it was
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deep drama. But that's where the uh, the lore of the the keyboard
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shortcuts that comes in. Yeah, apparently the documentary never got made because he
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didn't know the keyboard shortcuts. Wasn't that wasn't that way worked? Uh No,
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I don't. I don't know what it was. I honestly like,
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no, no, no, But that's that was the excuse that was getting
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the meme. The meme is, Yeah, that's one of the excuse.
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I think I had something to do with their production kind of like like I
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said, their production kind of fell apart. I don't know the story.
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I don't care. It's you know, like I get it. You you
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try to organize things with people. Sometimes it doesn't work out. It's it
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really is neither here nor there in my opinion. But then Jordan Rowen disappeared
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for a while, and then we got this request, and I gotta tell
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you, I watched his let's not do gam or gay two thing and I
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was kind of few, not gonna lie. So but we will see what
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I mean. I'm not super surprised by this, but yeah, boilers,
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spoilers, Gamergate too because Trump, Yeah, you got CDs at least in
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part. It turns out that's most of it. For arrangement syndrome TDS for
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sure, like serious, a serious case. But anyway, so what are
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we starting with. We're starting with the panties fish goldfish panties' that's goldfish panties.
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You know you gotta start with that. I don't know what this is
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about, but these time codes were picked for us by gradingdoors. I did
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not watch this video. I watched the other video. I didn't watch this
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one, so I don't know what's in it. But panties is the what's
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covering, you know, the the the container for this is for the other
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one, which is, let's not do gamera gate again. I uh so
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it gives it some context, shall we say, sure, structure, antis
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and more sphinks, I guess, but we can we can begin at twenty
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seven minutes in this is Yeah, I'm already at twenty seven minutes, and
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hence the face palm play it. Maybe we should, Oh, I should
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share my video with you. Do you want to do the things? Well?
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Before we do that, Well, I already did the things, Brian,
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Do you want me to do the things? Okay? No, no,
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no, I just wanted to know. Okay, no, I've done
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I've done them. You must have, all right, I've been doing something.
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I'm gonna screen. No, maybe I'm in a screen share. So
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there it is. So you should join that so you can watch it.
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Okay. So I think maybe we should read the synopsis so I can read.
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Want me to read the synopsis? Yeah, you do it. I
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can read it. I can read it. I'm fine with that, Okay.
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I but uh, you know, I mean maybe we could read.
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We could exchange like do like a what are those things? Baton race?
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And I'll yeah, really, I mean like grammar school when we would have
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like a kid read a paragraph and then another kid will read the next paragraph.
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Okay, all right, this is synopsis of Autism, Misogyny, and
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Goldfish Panties by Jordan Owen. Already. Actually, the synopsis the the the
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video is by Jordan Owen. The synopsis is by great indoors Owen. Jordan,
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Is it Jordan Owen? No, it's Jordan Owen. It's Jordan Owen.
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Okay. So this is sort of like the Japanese way of saying his
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name or Owen. Jordan starts off his video stating what he was recently accused
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of something, that he was recently accused of something. WHOA, that's a
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nice storytelling hook. Yeah, he's being thrust into questioning some fundamental aspect of
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his identity. Let's find out how he does, our little main character.
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But as the accusation was unfounded, it didn't develop into anything substantial. Okay,
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well, now the narrative, now the narrative, Now the narrative flows
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is gone, like the narrative thrust is gone. And he refers to a
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previous video on the subject, because he follows this up by delving into what
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being accused of misogyny looks like through the lens of autism. Oh, good
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grief, you neede a moment to recover from that sentence, or John,
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now just continue? What is power through you? I'm sorry, I don't
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know what it's like to experience things through the lens of autism, But an
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autist probably doesn't know what it's like to experience it through the lens of not
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autism, So this is kind of a pointless exercise. It is likely that
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the accusations at his address were also about him being a misogynist. Okay,
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this is great indoors what Jordan states that he doesn't intend to use his autism
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to deflect. He's totally intending to do that though, and that he knows
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what actual misogyny is when he is confronted with it. Oh really, yeah,
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well actually it's like it's like mathematics, right, Yeah, it's very
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objective. Yeah, it usually means it's what those other men he doesn't agree
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with do. Let's be that's how it's really used. The example he then
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gives is a fictional one that that of the character Frank Booth and the David
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Lynch movie Blue Velvet. Apparently, Frank's assaults towards male characters, namely protagonist
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Jeffrey Beaumont, don't count towards anything. That's an aside by the way personally
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I would describe them that I would be I believe great indoors Frank Booth has
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as sociopath. Okay, so this was this was a this was a narrative
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aside about the summarye makers particular seen Blue Velvet. I can't stand David Lynch
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sometimes. Is that what the hell's going on in the movies? He greats
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sometimes? Jordan then continues to say that there is, however, this meta
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understanding of misogyny that so many other people have that doesn't make sense to him.
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Oh okay, okay, so editor's note. Throughout the video, he
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tends to refer to this autism, his autism, as the reason why this
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meta understanding is so bizarre to him. So he is using his autism to
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explain why he is not a misogynist. Yeah, but can be accused of
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one. Yeah, he just doesn't understand right, and honestly, like,
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I'm on his side when he's accused of at least I'm on the side of
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Let's let's actually hear the allegation and see if there's any actual proof. Oh
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that sounds more autistic than this. Oh my god, Oh I'm wounded.
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Okay. Jordan follows this up with an additional personal anecdote of an accusation of
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misogyny. This happened more than a decade ago. I'll just continue, okay,
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Lord. Paragraph breaks. He was involved in some sort of musical project
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with a group of guys, one of whom happened to be friends with a
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lesbian couple, and they decided go with him with them. They went to
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some go go bar where they had these uplifted platforms for the girls who are
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dancing, and they chose to get seats near one of those platforms. While
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chatting with Jordan, one of the lesbian women decides to get up on the
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nearest platform and starts to dance. She then directly asked Jordan what he thought
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about her outfit. She was wearing a small black dress with straps on both
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sides. Their side profile would give the appearance of an almost naked profile coupled
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with running shoes, and because she was gyrating right in front of him,
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with him having to look up a pair of goldfish panties which were bunched up
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so that, according to Jordan, almost looked like diapers. So Jordan was
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bonded with Well, I like the dress, but I don't understand the goldfish
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panties. Her reply, Oh, I think they just look nice. And
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that was that. On a second night out with a slightly different group of
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people, oh, the same lesbian couple, Jordan's started chatting up to a
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third woman who happened to be straight. This woman had very pronounced, barely
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covered up breasts, and while she puts put her arms underneath her breast,
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making them even more pronounced, she says to Jordan, my friends say I
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should have a breast reduction because they're just a triples so large, so oh
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so large. Yeah, I think that's how it's written. Okay, so
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okay, I don't know why there is like a weird carrot's over the os
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Yeah yeah, like, what the hell's with the Okay, Jordan replies with
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you cannot do that. Those are fantastic, so fucking autistic. I'm sorry.
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One of the lesbian women, not the goldfish panties, one who weren't
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part of the discussion at all. Do Is it awful that I would have
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the urge to say no? I think yeah, they could be bigger.
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Yeah, you don't want to be seen as flat chested. We weren't part
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of the discussion at all, said suddenly, butts in and exclaims you cannot
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tell her what to do with her body. And that was the last time
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Jordan and his buddies hung out with the lesbian couple. Okay, where does
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the allegation of misogyny come in? Well, I guess you want me to
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read, Yeah, yeah, I'll read from here. Okay. Later on,
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the music buddy, who was befriended with the lesbian couple informed Jordan that
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he was advised to quit the project because the couple thought Jordan was a greep.
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There it is right there, so he commented, a straight woman took
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offense. Supposedly a lesbian woman did not. It was a lesbian Oh well
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whatever, a lesbian on behalf of the straight woman. Yeah. Both aforementioned
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incidents were brought up by his friend As to the reason why after giving this
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exposition, Jordan states that he find finds it impossible to speak about matters of
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sexuality with women who exhibit any degree of interest and not be accused of misogyny.
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Furthermore, he states that as soon as something related to women enter discussion,
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it's inevitable that whoever invoked the element into the discussion will be accused of
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misogyny. He adds at the only times in his past where he felt misogynistic
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were when it was the result of his frustrations facing down accusations of misogyny that
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made sense to him Editor's note, in contrast to accusations that did make sense
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to him. Also, this seems to happen to him a lot. Yeah,
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because he's hanging around with crazy people. He points out the irony in
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becoming misogynistic due to false accusations of misogyny. Editor One could also be called
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that detesting liars and manipulators, male or female here, I want to bring
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attention to the fact that the accusation that Jordan mentioned at the start of this
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video was done by another man, not by woman. Okay, so this
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is this is Oh god, there's a lot of accusations flying around here,
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but that is a really good point. Like he's he's hanging around with apparently
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very sensitive women. Well, I mean maybe, but I don't think that
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they're losing sleep over this. But the truth is is that if you you
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can use the threat of being called a misogynist to exert tremendous control over men,
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so or women, but mostly men. It's just like the power of
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the pick me allegation. Maybe they don't cause like I don't think that women
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are all that terribly impacted by like men, you know, I don't know
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just being around them, because I mean, like, what is misogyny At
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this point, it doesn't mean anything. And frankly, I think there's a
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strong case be made that there's no such thing. But now that we are
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sort of like living with this this shadow of the potential to be called a
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misogynist over all the heads of men, there is literally like nothing you can
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do to explain away why you're not a misogynist, which makes the entire exercise
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pointless. So you might as well just like ignore it. But he can't
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do that because he wants to be friends with people who like the idea of
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probably take some pleasure in the idea of holding it over his head, like,
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oh, what are you going to say? You know, it's kind
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of like, yeah, over the heads of men, essentially tempting them to
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have an opinion or assert themselves or assert a boundary, or express themselves like
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honestly without being called a misogynist. So like maybe, well, I know
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that we haven't gone into the video yet, but yeah, well I think
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it starts with like, essentially, yeah, I think it starts with guys
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just like don't don't let them do that to you because it is it is
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essentially a miniature struggle session and it's it's not it's not good for your mental
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health. So in my opinion, yeah, anyway, it isn't. But
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yeah, just just honestly, probably want to just leave these people alone and
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not not hang out. Yeah, why would you want to be around people
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that are like because you know why, you know, because when you're not
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in the cross hairs, you feel like you're the one good man. I'm
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guessing yeah, it's it is better to be at the right hand of the
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devil than to be in his path. So well, but not not.
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It's just that you you feel superior to the men who are currently in the
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crosshairs being accused of being a misogynist. You feel morally superior to them.
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I mean, it's something that I noticed with these uh blood sports. Like
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the thing is that the individuals who engaged in the blood sports, they would
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be crucifying people who were essentially identical to members of their audience. But their
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audience was very like they loved it even though they were watching themselves. They're
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essentially watching themselves and it was just a matter of happenstance that it just happened
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to be this other dude who got it. It was almost like they they
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loved the watching someone who was like them be destroyed. And I guess it
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was because they felt a certain amount of power over their own uh like exclusion.
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It was. It was it was really interesting, and I think that
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that men who who exist in these these highly sort of toxic, abusive eggshell
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environments, they might get something out of feeling like they are not like those
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other guys. You know, it's it's like it's like there it's literally like
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playing a difficult video game. Like they're like, oh, can I pass
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the level today? So they do, and they're like, oh man,
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you know, like I I think that there is like they almost see it
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as a challenge sometimes. But I don't know. It's it's like these people
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are not I don't think that they're your friends. Man. Okay, no,
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by definition, they're not your friends, right, No, no,
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okay, all right, So where where I leave off? He comes Uh,
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yeah, he comes up with a second example of what he thinks actual
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misogy looks like a man hitting a woman for the audacity of talking to another
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guy something he said happened to him between junior high and high school where he
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was the other guy. Yeah, these men. Oh although that guy over
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there who got in the way. Yeah, that's not that's just abuse.
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I mean, is it miss injury when a woman hits a man for talking
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to another woman? No, it's just it's jealous abuse. Yeah, it's
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it's a subtle like humble brag to all of this too, Like there is
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right, there is no for sure for there is like a weird that's Another
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thing too, is that like I don't I don't, you know, I
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don't understand autism, So I'm not going to pretend. And I do think
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the word is overused, but I would wonder wood does an autist take pleasure
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in having the moral high ground? That doesn't sound autistic to me, so
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but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Again, I humble myself
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before anyone who understands that more than me, which is probably most of you,
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guys. But what I'm saying is is that I don't see this as
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a useful out. But you know what I mean, like, oh,
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well, you know, I'm it's like you It's like it's like cursing in
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church out loud and then saying, well, look I have tourettes and you
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can just people are supposed to be like, oh well that's okay, then
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go ahead, you know. But anyway, uh, let me see,
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Yeah, that autistic people might might have a problem with the whole the moral
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jerrymandering. What I've noticed is that autistic people tend to compete more over being
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good at something or useful m hm, and uh, not as so much
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or I mean, do they even compete, Like is there is there.
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Do they benefit from like pride or vainglory? Do they even I don't like,
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I'm seriously quite asking this question because I don't know is there. It's
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just that there's a I think there's like for normal people, there's like this
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this this this environment that or this this energy that you exist within you navigate
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through, and it's like this kind of slightly superficial flattering of people's egos,
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if that makes sense. So you you flatter someone briefly by taking an interest
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in whatever is happening in their day, and that there's this kind of but
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this politeness. You know, I'm not I'm not saying this to be like
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con condemning. I'm just saying this as some you know, my understanding of
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it. So you navigate the world by flattering people slightly with their egos,
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not not excessively, but just making people happy and comfortable. Lots just don't
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do that. They just everything is is is logic, facts, uh,
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skills and usefulness and or utility. Yeah, it's all to do with that.
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It's all pragmatism and rationality and yeah yeah and no, and very little
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consideration for that kind of emotional that that kind of emotional equilibrium that I think
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normal people sort of take for granted until they meet an autist and discover that
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they despise them. But you know that you you're all sort of maintaining like
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this emotional equilibrium, this mild flattery. If you go up to someone you
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want to deliver some bad news, then you engage in even more intense flattery,
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and then you just sort of slip that in you For the autist as
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soon as you come close to them with any kind of like the they probably
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know you're delivering bad news. So what it? What it? When when
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you do that whole fluffing and flattering for a normal people person, that just
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makes it easier. It's sort of like giving you a lollipop before you take
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your blood. For an autist, it's like, why are you manipulating me?
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Right? Right? They perceive it more as manipulation because I don't think
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they value this this this like this this positive social vibe as much as people
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who are an autistic. Yeah, and and so that that that there's that
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difference between how they navigate things socially. Probably these women were trying to get
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some kind of charming little interaction with him, like the the goldfish panties and
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she's showing off her gold probably wanted like some kind of quip. Lesbians can
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be. Lesbians can be really weird about that. Like I've had, you
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know, lesbian friends and in Chicago, and I'll say is that when they
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get good and drunk, they become pretty fucking straight. And I'm I'm a
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little it's a bit weird to me, but I have run across it many
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times. No, I don't think it's that weird, but I'm saying like,
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and I have like a very old friend who I've known for like for
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as long as I've known anyone, Like I'm talking like, you know,
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three years old. We probably have known each other. And his mother became
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a lesbian, like when he was very young, and she would bring girlfriends
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around and they would expose him to weird shit. I didn't learn this until
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pretty recently, which I mean they sexualized him very early on, you know,
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like there were Playboy magazines lying around and it was just weird. Man.
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And I you know, again, I'm not trying. I'm not painting
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what a broadbrush. I'm not saying this is how all lesbians are. But
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my experience with lesbians is they're very sexually liberated and they're and they're shameless about
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it, I'll put it that way. And sometimes they are not lesbians for
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you know, for a while. I don't know why, but that's just
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what I've run into. So from what my experience, gay men seem to
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have their you know, they're like pretty like this is what I want and
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that's it. You know, they're like, yeah, I'm sure it does.
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Okay, I've known gay men who have sex with women, but it's
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mostly just you know, entertainment, not like an actual desire for a relationship.
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Right, it's very Dionysus, Yes it is. It's a hedonist spot.
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Yeah, it's I know, I know, I find heenonism bought charming.
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At least he enjoys himself, you know that a lot of theism I
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see, like these women who are hedonists, they look like they're fucking miserable.
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Have you noticed that? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's
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like you're engaging in all kinds of decades. It's called it's it's kind of
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it's all empty, that's why. But okay, can't you at least enjoy
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the decadence you're engaging you're not even happy about it, Like, can you
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have the virtue? I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's almost like
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there's a virtuous hedonism which is actually enjoying yourself, and then there's this fuck
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this hedonism where you are somehow self flagellating. You know what I mean,
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You're not even you're not even enjoying what you're doing. So why are you
27:27
doing it? Because you're destroying yourself to stick it to the man, astounding,
27:34
Uh, I got, I got a super chat I should read out
27:37
really quick. Anthony Durrell thank you, gives us five dollars Australian pesos and
27:44
says autists are about as variable as anyone outside of impaired social development. You
27:48
can possibly be both narcissistic and autistic. I think I'm gonna call Australian dollars
27:53
Australian diggery news. That's gonna be the That's gonna be the uh, like
27:57
the currency, the unit of currency I'm gonna use. So thank you for
28:03
the five dairy news. Okay, all right, should we readdress this because
28:11
we're not even in the video yet and it's been like an half hour,
28:14
so okay, all right these men quickly. Yeah, these men, well,
28:18
kids should treat the women around them as their possession. According to Jordan,
28:22
and while he expresses the wish to pummel these guys to the ground,
28:26
he knows that those sentiments will also be labeled as misogyny, as it insinuates
28:32
that women cannot handle their own problems. Although he doesn't use the term migtao,
28:36
he does express the wish to remove himself from the rest of society because
28:40
he is done with all these Kafka esque social trappings. Jordan, if it
28:47
was just like traffic laws and you have a booklet of rules, I would
28:49
learn the rules and stick by it to the best of my abilities. But
28:53
it's not. Yeah, that's right. It is a mess Jordan. That's
28:57
that's kind of in a way, that's that's what one of the problems is,
29:03
Like, uh, sort of interrupt you there, Bryan, I was
29:07
doing the autistic thing. I want to have the utility in this moment.
29:11
The the thing is that it's not about rules, it's about maintaining that kind
29:15
of social ambiance. And that's what these women want. They want the men
29:21
to be able to maintain this social ambiance. So to make some cute or
29:26
nagging, like a teasing comment about her goldfish panties, to make something teasing
29:33
or cute about you know, the size of her boobs. I guess,
29:38
you know, just to just to be able to maintain this kind of social
29:42
ambiance really, and he wasn't able to do it, at least not to
29:48
the lesbians satisfaction, or the lesbian was just jealous because the other woman got
29:53
more positive sex attention from him, you know, I mean that's the case.
30:00
But it was like, which is you know, dangerous and uh,
30:06
it's it's it's a lot of times men get crushed by women's competition with each
30:10
other, which it is really hard to navigate that and there are no rules,
30:15
and that's the point. Like what the women are testing for is whether
30:21
or not you can create that warm kind of you know what I'm talking like
30:26
sociality, that warm kind of fun but not too dangerous kind of energy.
30:34
You know what I'm talking about, right, Brian, Yeah, I think
30:37
so, yeah, Like just uh it's like it's like a it's it's like
30:47
a cocoon of something. It's it's it's an energy, right, It's a
30:52
positive energy. And they're trying to determine if you can do that. There's
30:55
no rules to there's no real rules to it. He's right, and autistic
31:00
men are going to be screwed by that unless they learn how to do that
31:04
in a or they train themselves how to do that, how to manage that
31:10
kind of stuff intuitively through repeated repetition, like repeated exposure the expectation of making
31:18
a comfortable environment for someone, and that usually is like through a customer service
31:22
or something, a customer service job, you know, and you learn how
31:25
to do that, and then they'll apply that to this situation. I'm guessing
31:29
maybe Jordan Owen didn't hasn't had that level of exposure. But anyway, again,
31:36
it has no rules, and it's not fair to condemn someone because they're
31:41
incapable of making you feel good. That's where it really comes down to.
31:45
A lot of these accusations of misogyny are women saying, well, this man
31:49
is incapable of making me feel good, right right. He doesn't know how
31:55
to construct this this flattering or even slightly teasing energy before he approaches me sexually,
32:01
so he's a creep. Well it's like, no, he just doesn't
32:05
know how to do that. But get this. The people who know how
32:07
to do that aren't necessarily good people. Narcissists know how to do that.
32:14
So ship paths know how to do that. They know how to manipulate people
32:17
using their ego and construct these kind of charming, warm scenario where they get
32:22
what they want. You don't want to be in relationships with men like that
32:28
or women like that. So it's not that autists are necessarily worse, although
32:31
honestly, it can get really grading when autistic. You're you're in a relate,
32:37
you're in like a group with autistic and everything is a competition over stuff,
32:44
right, There's there's absolutely no acknowledgment of people's comfort. Everything becomes a
32:49
competition. That's it gets exhausting. Uh, there's there's sometimes autistic people don't
32:54
realize that. Uh. Being with the group of people and gay socially isn't
33:00
about you know, winning, It's about enjoying that warm, companion companionable energy.
33:08
Right. So you know, like I'm not trying to say one or
33:10
the other is worse, but in this case, a lot of the time,
33:15
what I'm seeing is these accusations of misogyny come down to this guy wasn't
33:20
able to make me feel good and excited at the same time, like slightly
33:27
on edge, like you don't know exactly what he's gonna do, but you're
33:30
there for it. But you know, also really comfortable, you know that
33:34
kind of a little bit dangerous but also completely comfortable, but also a little
33:37
spicy, but also mild and vanilla and also like warm but cold, a
33:42
little a little crunchy, but smooth, you know that kind of shit.
33:45
And then if you don't do that, you're a misogynist. I mean,
33:49
it's ridiculous anyway, and it gets worse because of course men where women are
33:52
inculcated with this whole idea that men are a threat. Sorry for jumping all
33:58
over you there, Brian, all right, I mean let's read some more,
34:04
Okay, so this is hopefully I'll get to the end of this.
34:08
Throughout the video, he continuously points to his autism as the reason why he
34:13
has difficulty dealing with these vague accusations of misogyny, alluding that non autists just
34:17
simply go along with it and that these accusations are being pushed by neurotypicals.
34:22
He ends the video trying to answer the hypothetical question as to why he doesn't
34:25
consider himself to be a misogynist, a question he posed to himself earlier in
34:30
the video and initially answered with I have female friends. Again, as with
34:35
Blue Velvet, he brings up a work of fiction. I have binge watched
34:38
and enjoyed The Handmaid's Tale, and I cannot wait to see one of the
34:43
male antagonists get his comeuppance. If I was a misogynist, I would be
34:46
taking his side. I'm an autist. I'm built around observing logical connections between
34:52
concepts and finding that the most valid logical connections between two concepts formulate the basis
34:59
for a train of thought that we call the truth, and that observing the
35:01
truth is a moral virtue and a good thing. Neurotypical people have this sense
35:07
of things. There's this aura. It's like they sense the auras of the
35:09
world interacting in some spectral infinitiesmal way that make no sense to me. It's
35:16
like a vibe that they get, and I don't understand vibes that people get.
35:21
And then he goes into timestamps for let's not do gamergay two. So
35:30
all right, I don't know. I don't know what to add to that.
35:34
I mean, I'm like, I have a feeling that he might not
35:38
be as autistic as he thinks, and I think the video, uh gamergay
35:44
two kind of like his video on gamer gay two is from my from my
35:49
side, the evidence for this unless is it possible that autists could be affected
35:57
by the emotions of people around them. So if he's friends with lesbians,
36:04
Let's say he's friends with a bunch of angry lesbians, and those angry lesbians
36:07
are always going on and on about how awful men are and all this,
36:12
and they're like, I don't know, like really liberal, could it be
36:16
possible that an auxist would just be like, my friends feel this way,
36:20
and so I'm going to feel this way by I don't know, like by
36:23
osmosis? Does that make sense? I swear to God, guys, I'm
36:29
not pretending to know about this, so please don't get angry with me.
36:31
I'm legitimately trying to understand. I'm asking questions. I'm just asking questions.
36:37
I gotcha. You know what, Let's just watch the final bit, like
36:43
the final time code. Go to let's see thirty five no No thirty four
36:50
fourteen and go to thirty five to twenty. This this video, this this
36:53
the first video thirty four fourteen. You said, I think that's all we
36:58
really need to look at. Let's just take look at that. Yeah,
37:00
all right, here we go. I'm gonna say it, grotypicals of the
37:02
world, I am an autist. I am built around lot. I'm built
37:08
around observing logical connections between concepts and finding that the most valid logical connections between
37:23
two concepts formulate the basis for a train of thought that we call the truth,
37:30
and that the truth is observing the truth is a moral virtue and a
37:35
good thing. That's how I'm structured. Neurotypical people have this sense of things.
37:44
There's this this this aura that it's like they I'm pausing partly for the
37:51
banana, but also I'm just okay, it's true that the truth is a
37:55
good thing, because even if the truth is negative, it's better to know
38:00
the truth because if you can't make something better built on a lie. That's
38:07
true. But I don't think it's unique to autists. I think that regular
38:09
people also care about the truth. I think again, I have to wonder,
38:15
are you just around a bunch of crazy lesbians, because I can see
38:19
how they would be like less interested in the truth and more interested in like
38:23
avoiding the ick or whatever it is that they're into, you know, mm
38:29
hmm. Yeah. Also, I wanted to point out that I think using
38:35
my scenario where you have to deliver bad news, I think neurotypical people would
38:39
probably go and they would you know, warm people up to it with some
38:45
flattery, some you know, interest in the things that they're doing, and
38:47
then deliver the bad news, whereas again autistics would look at that and say,
38:51
you're manipulating me. But after the bad news is delivered, they might
38:54
appreciate, you know, some help calming down or like just releasing the tension
39:01
from that. So it's interesting because I think that ultimately it may come down
39:07
to just a slight shift in in approach for both camps to understand each other
39:13
better, because you know, autistic people have emotions, emotions too, It's
39:16
just they like to address the pragmat pragmatic facts of the situation first, get
39:22
that out of the way, and then let's let's just marinate in in like
39:28
getting over or or making ourselves more comfortable about what just happened, if that
39:32
makes sense. If anything, he would he would be considered more toxically masculine,
39:38
than the average man. If he was an antist because of his one
39:42
thing. I mean, that's how he would be framed. I'm not saying
39:45
it's right. I'm just saying that's how it's. You know, like if
39:47
you're like purely logical, or at least like you like tend to be more
39:52
logical than the average person or whatever, then that means you're going to be
39:55
less maybe you know, uh, like you're a won't be as on the
40:01
surface. I'm not saying they don't have emotions. I mean, there's an
40:05
autistic guy that goes to my church and I'm pretty sure he's an autistic guy,
40:08
and you know he's he's he's got it together. He just struggles with
40:14
like, you know, background chatter, Like you know, when when we
40:17
were the service ended and everybody's trying to chattering and they're like bringing out snacks
40:22
and stuff, and he was like, you could tell he was like uncomfortable,
40:27
And I asked him how you do it. He was like, oh,
40:29
it's just like, you know, everyone's talking out a sink at the
40:31
same time. It's like this crowd chatter. And I was like, oh,
40:35
yeah, I get it, you know, I mean, it doesn't
40:37
bother me as much, but I understand why. But I mean, I
40:40
know he feels feelings, but he would be considered toxically masculine by that,
40:45
by the feminist standard, not just the feminist standard, by the standards of
40:50
fucking you know, mental health, the whole psychological field. So yeah,
40:57
again, I'm sorry, Jordan, but you are you would be considered a
41:00
misogynist. Yeah, well, toxically masculine at quote unquote yeah, essentially talking
41:07
Yeah, but the real threat of toxic masculinity is that it ultimately is harmful
41:10
to women. That's the reason why it's an issue. So I mean,
41:16
by their logic going to play more of the video, essentially, the phrase
41:22
the slur toxic masculinity just hits neuro divergent people because they, like I said,
41:30
they want to get the pragmatic out of the way first and then deal
41:34
with the emotional as perceived as toxically masculine by women, by women who are
41:40
more feminine, I guess, who want the emotional first, or the perception
41:45
that this person can manage the emotional first and then everything else. Yeah,
41:52
and that's really unfair if you think about it. It's interesting how basically the
41:57
more feminine approach to socialization has been considered neurotypical, and the more masculine approach
42:04
to socialization is neural atypical if you think about it. So that that fascinates
42:09
me because I think that men, left to their own devices would tend towards
42:15
pragmatic communication mostly or almost exclusively. Yeah, I think that they already do,
42:25
for sure, with emotions processed by developing skills or doing something physically.
42:35
So what happens is that men learn to navigate the more like that, that
42:40
that warm energy field that women prefer to exist in, and they learned to
42:46
to manage it and produce it, so, you know, they learn to
42:52
be charming, they learn to engage in the flattery, they learned to front
42:54
load emotions. They learn how women do things, which is then seen as
43:02
the normal way of doing things. And I'm not saying that men who navigate
43:07
this aren't are less masculine, because that isn't of itself learning a skill,
43:12
right, so that is a sort of a masculine quality. I'm saying that
43:19
they are achieving a standard that's set by women, that that's a socialization's standard
43:23
set by women because it's their natural way of socializing. It's like you go
43:28
to the palace, you act in a way appropriate to the culture of the
43:31
royal family, right, and you learn how to do that. That's what
43:36
men are doing, but that is now seen as the normal, whereas men
43:40
are the deviant. I'm just pointing that out. Isn't that interesting? Yeah?
43:45
Yeah, yeah, Well it's what we choose to focus on, or
43:49
what is chosen to focus on. But to listen to more of this or
43:52
do you want me to go to the next video? Which is interesting because
43:54
if you think about it, it actually maps to the whole concept of a
43:59
man. Right. A man isn't a man necessarily like an adult male.
44:05
A man is someone who has attained the standards set forth, usually by women.
44:13
So when they say, well, our society is focused on men,
44:17
that's only like one fourth of the story because it's not really focused on adult
44:22
males and how they do things naturally. It's focused on men and how they
44:28
serve society. You know, how well men attain this, for example,
44:35
how well men attain the emotional acuity to men manufacture this warm social energy for
44:44
women. But the guy behind that who had to struggle to maintain it or
44:50
develop it he's invisible. So you know, our society does not center adult
44:55
human males. It only centers those people who are adult human males who have
45:00
subsequently attained some benefit for the people around them. Yeah, for the people
45:07
around them. Okay, let's continue, all right, since the auras of
45:12
the world interacting in some spectral uh spectral infantesmal way, that makes no sense
45:22
to me. It's bizarre. It's like, it sounds like you're just around
45:28
women. Honestly, Like he's saying, like, oh, regular people.
45:31
They they have like vibes and they like fee they have They're all like intuitive
45:37
and or and WOOI and shit. No, I think I think you're you're
45:40
hanging around with women. Like if you honger with men, you might be
45:44
more like maybe you're a step beyond the average guy. But that just sounds
45:50
like you're around female My brain people, it's like it's just a vibe that
45:55
they get, and I don't understand vibes that people get. You don't understand
46:01
women and join the club. So I wanted to drop this in the autism
46:08
category for my videos because okay, I'm just here's the thing. The accusation
46:15
of misogyny is one illegitimate generally, and this is why, because it's completely
46:22
divorced from any kind of action. You know, it is just you are
46:29
giving me the wrong vibe. And also I want to control your speech,
46:35
right, Yeah, okay, you know sometimes certain speeches is inappropriate for certain
46:40
areas. That doesn't make it misogynist inherently, just needs to go where it's
46:45
more appropriate. Now, I think that you can say that concepts are misogynist.
46:51
Maybe, like if there was ever a group of people who attained great
46:55
status in academia, and we're consultants to corporations and governments that allege that women
47:04
have constructed a society for their own benefit at the expense of men, and
47:07
that women oppress men, and that women in authority is automatically equals women men's
47:15
oppression. You might point to that narrative and say, hey, that's misogynist.
47:22
Or perhaps the narrative that women are inherently evil and cannot make positive choices.
47:28
You can point to that and say, hey, that's a misogynist attitude.
47:31
But I don't think that you can really, Like, I don't think
47:36
accusations of misogyny should result in censors, censorship, or social ostracization. Or
47:45
punishment. What it should result in is more conversation about what is being alleged,
47:51
okay, and what is being said? All right, but anyway,
47:55
and we should keep punishment to verifiable actions, not thought crimes, because like
48:02
misogyny is never alleged, shouldn't be alleged about violence. I guess they say
48:09
that there is misogynist violence, but it's actually pretty rare for for men or
48:16
women to to try to kill each other because they hate men or women.
48:22
That's that's you know, I mean, I guess you could you could say
48:24
that some forms of violence or misogynists. But the point is that it's violence,
48:30
like it's already amply covered by property and personal like violations of the person
48:37
laws. Why do you need to add on some additional thing about motive,
48:43
as if it makes it worse? Like it doesn't. Anyway, let's uh,
48:49
let's uh, let's go to the next movie or yeah, I'm already
48:52
have it up. So this one is called let's not do gam or gay
48:54
two And I'm looking at the time codes. There's about a there's some rambling
49:00
at the beginning. I don't care about Horizon zero dawn. He praises,
49:05
it's not really a good game, but you're entitled to your opinion. I
49:08
just think it's shit. And then he talks about let's see, I guess
49:16
I'll jump to eight fifty one. So there's this thing that I've been seeing
49:21
in certain parts of Gamergate two, and I think it's mostly coming from people
49:25
like this that hate the way that Gamergate won, like where it led.
49:31
There are some people who deny that that happened that like Gamergate one is like
49:37
you know, is sort of like the well spring of all of the other
49:42
not just like the stuff in the culture War, but like the general direction
49:45
of like all other things that were happening in like our society, you know,
49:51
political change and the riots of twenty twenty and all that. And I
49:58
think that there is an argument to be made for that. But a lot
50:00
of people, people who don't like the you know, some things about the
50:05
last few years, they want to deny that. But I don't think it's
50:09
true. I think that there was a I think gamer Gate two is actually
50:14
a proof of what I'm saying is that there are people waking up because of
50:20
what happened in gamer Gate one and what we were made aware of, and
50:22
then that message got out if you were willing to listen to it, and
50:30
you were humbling yourself enough to basically be like, oh, maybe I was
50:32
wrong about a lot of shit. And that's what I mean, that's what
50:37
we hear in the at least for me, you know, in this sort
50:40
of men's issue space. Like if you had asked me about this in twenty
50:45
twelve, I would have thought it was laughable. And now I'm here,
50:49
essentially like devoting my life to it. So because I humbled myself and I
50:53
was like, well, you know, what do I know? You know,
50:57
but there are some people who can't do that, and they're just too
51:01
invested, or they're prideful, or they're you know, sunk in cost fallacy,
51:07
whatever you want to call it, and this makes it very difficult.
51:09
So yeah, I mean, or they've invested a huge component of their identity
51:15
into it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They've invested in their identity
51:19
or effort or time or energy, or there's something like imagine this, Okay,
51:24
let me put it, let me put it this. Let me give
51:27
another example what I mean by investing, because they're In twenty nineteen, a
51:34
novel event happened involving a certain blue like virus, and there was a narrative
51:45
around it. Most of us didn't know what was going on, but we
51:50
were just kind of like trying to keep up. And there was a tremendous
51:53
campaign of data, some of it more reliable than others, and people were
52:00
attaching themselves to authority figures of some kind, like, oh, I need
52:07
to believe these people because I am told, and I have been told for
52:10
basically my entire life, that these people over here know what's up. They
52:15
are the authority on this topic. They are the final arbiter of what is
52:21
true because they're on TV. And I never, like, I never questioned
52:25
what I'm told by the TV, and they went in all like all in,
52:30
and people that I know personally that I consider to be intelligent people,
52:35
they completely fell for it. Now or the beginning of it, most of
52:39
us were at least like entertaining it because hey, you know, we would.
52:44
This is completely unexpected. And I'm choosing this because it's not political,
52:47
or at least it shouldn't be. But the fact is is that as time
52:52
went on and there was more information coming to light, and then there was
52:57
censorship and there was all this like govern in overreach and all these other things
53:00
that were happening. Then you got like a real split that happened where you
53:05
had people that were like, this is wrong, this is not the way
53:08
this should be done. I will not accept this. I will not be
53:12
told how to live my life. I will not have my children separate and
53:15
from their classmates. I will not you know, stay home at all.
53:19
Whatever it was. And there were other people like, you have to do
53:22
that, you have to do that right. And so now that it's been
53:25
what five years since that started, almost there are still people who cannot have
53:32
They are incapable of saying I was wrong. And the reason is because the
53:38
harm to their ego would be so tremendous, like the cognitive dissonance would be
53:43
so painful that they're not sure they could recover. Now if they allowed their
53:46
ego to die and just like say, you know what, I fucked up,
53:50
that's easy, I fucked up. I was wrong, then there would
53:53
be no issue. I saw Naomi Wolf, who's basically like had a complete,
53:59
at least in this particular topic, a complete change of character towards it.
54:05
And she was being interviewed by Tucker Carlson now, if you guys don't
54:07
know, Nami Wolf was a hardcore intersectional fourth wave feminist. She got into
54:12
a fight with Karen like there was like a discussion, and she lost her
54:15
shit. She was like, you know, just like all In died of
54:21
the Wolf and ever since twenty nineteen, the koof happened. She was very
54:28
much like questioning this whole narrative, and she realized that a lot of what
54:32
she was told by the mainstream media, by the people who are considered to
54:36
be the authorities, was wrong. And Tucker asked her, He said,
54:40
you have a bunch of friends, they're all hardcore feminists like you, yet
54:45
they have all disowned you. Can you explain that? And she's like,
54:47
I don't understand it. They're all smart. They should have been doing what
54:52
I was doing. You see, I can explain that because their ego is
54:58
so invested in this, so invested in this lie, they want it to
55:01
be true so badly that they will let everyone else suffer so they can continue
55:07
to stay with it. And that's our that's our main problem. That's why
55:09
I've been saying for the last few years, is the biggest obstacle that humanity
55:15
has is it's it's dedication to its own pride and and yeah, and its
55:22
ego and the inability to say I was wrong, because that's what it takes.
55:27
Like this whole thing with like men and women not getting along and all
55:30
that shit all it like literally women just have to say, you know what
55:34
I'm wrong about men. That's that's all that has to happen. And men
55:38
will immediately, they'll put down their sex stalls and they'll immediately go to women.
55:43
But it is the most difficult thing for people to do. It is
55:46
all. They'll put down the pornography, yep. Everything. So that's what
55:52
I'm saying. And so like the all of the stuff that we're about to
55:57
hear is this. This is the same thing. It's this, it's this
56:00
sunken costs. Like I bought into the stories, I bought into the lies,
56:06
and I cannot let it go because what it means if I do is
56:10
like just catastrophic for my ego. And they will they will, they will
56:15
guard to the death their ego. So anyway, that's what I think.
56:19
I'm sorry for the for the No, It's fine, it's good because it
56:22
gives me a nice thing, a nice way to given an addendum, and
56:27
when it comes to the situation between men and women, men have sunken cost
56:31
fallacy when it comes to being the one good man in the feminist framework,
56:37
right, think about it, The feminist framework basically makes the bar to being
56:40
a good man ridiculously low. Like, honestly, I don't hate women,
56:46
Yeah, like every fucking man on the planet, right, mm hmm.
56:52
I breathe and poop, I get a gold star. I don't hate women.
56:54
Give me that gold star, you know, like and and But at
56:58
the same time, it makes them feel like that makes them completely unique as
57:02
a man, a complete individual, that their morality is entirely due to their
57:07
own individual moral strength, which is like catnip to men. Yeah. And
57:12
then it gives women a context to feel like a damsel mm hmm. And
57:19
that is catnip to women. And they both are invested in this narrative,
57:24
which is why it's so hard to shift even though it is. It's like,
57:29
it's the simplest thing, you know, mm hmm. All women have
57:34
to do is say, yeah, actually, I don't think men are that
57:37
bad. Hold on a second, Jojo wants to come in here, Wow,
57:42
Jojo? Actually, yeah, here, he just wanted to. He
57:47
just wanted to smell me really quick, make sure I wasn't dead. Jojo,
57:53
come here, buddy, Jojo, come here, buddy, He's not.
57:57
I don't have Jojo cam up because I'm on a different scene. Wellness
58:01
check. Yeah, yeah, JoJo's very concerned. He's very protective of us.
58:07
I found out my neighbor. She watches Jojo for us on days where
58:10
we need to go out and we can't bring him with us. And she
58:14
she's a really sweet lady that lives downstairs, and she has a dock sund
58:17
named Jasper. Jasper's this cute, little, you know, hot dog dog,
58:22
and the poor guy has been he's got cancer and so Wes's she's devastated.
58:31
I mean, it's just the dog. I know dogs aren't people,
58:34
but it's tough, man, when your pet gets sick. I had a
58:38
dog before Jojo named Leslie, and she had heart failure and it was killing
58:44
me because I had her for like ten years. So that's the thing about
58:46
dogs, So you invest like a lot of time into them and you know
58:51
they're going to die before you. So it's like, what am I doing,
58:55
Hey, Jojo, what are you doing? Like you Yeah, I
58:58
know, no, honestly, I know that people say that dogs aren't people,
59:00
and they're not people, but they are their own thing, like a
59:06
it's like they're they're they're they're very they're unique because they evolved with us.
59:10
Yes, so there's something about that cats to a lesser degree, but it's
59:15
like cats and dogs, they have their own unique intelligence, so they're their
59:22
own entities. And the requestion really is is can you have a friendship with
59:25
an alien consciousness? And I think you can, and I think that could
59:30
be just as valuable as a friendship with a human consciousness. The difference is,
59:35
of course, that that dogs sort of need you to navigate the human
59:38
world for them. I don't know, is that too anthropomorphizing? I recognize
59:44
them. Well, I think we have an no no, no, Jojo,
59:46
he's gonna want to be with you, babe, Go ahead, Jojo
59:49
go. I think that we have a tendency to anthromorphize our pets. Sure.
59:52
I mean, Lindsay had a bird that she would answerpomorphize, so I
59:58
think it's natural for us to do that. But yeah, I mean I
1:00:01
love dogs, but yeah, they're they're different. Okay, so let's see
1:00:07
you play more Okay, I want to now perhaps, Yeah, I see
1:00:10
that, I see that. Should we look at this? You want to
1:00:15
stop and do the beat savoring, let's do Let's do a mid show break
1:00:21
because I think we'll probably need one when the rage reaches its peak, and
1:00:24
we'll just walk out a break. I'll be chill, chill, I'll try
1:00:30
I'll be chill. I'll try to be chill. Anyways, but yeah,
1:00:32
will you want to do some songs? Then? Yeah, let's just get
1:00:36
into the second video so we can start, you know, get I have
1:00:39
the video. Do you want me to play some of it? Yeah?
1:00:43
Okay. The next well, I'm skipping to eight fifty one, where he
1:00:51
he talks a bit about because essentially he's he's talking about gamer Gate two,
1:00:54
okay, and the general thrust of his the general thrust of his video is
1:00:59
to say, look, we don't want gamer Gate to please you know,
1:01:04
he's not interested. He doesn't think that's a problem in the gaming industry,
1:01:07
even though we've covered, you know, like I have on the Wednesday show,
1:01:13
which is Badger Pod gamer Gate, where I bring on guests and we
1:01:15
talk about things. And I've also done a lot of stuff on Honey Badger
1:01:19
arcade, specifically talking about DEI and ESG and black Rock and all these like
1:01:25
gigantic not just corporate but government institutions that are meddling in this, in this
1:01:31
supposed hobby, which clearly is more than just the hobby if they're like spending
1:01:37
you know, six figures, seven figures to essentially influence behaviors. But I've
1:01:44
covered it at length on there, so this isn't really just like, oh,
1:01:49
you know, women in video games are not sexy enough or they're too
1:01:52
sexy or whatever. This is. This is about something far larger, and
1:01:58
so he is going to give his two cents because he doesn't like the way
1:02:01
that gamer Gate led to essentially like a political awakening. So let me let
1:02:09
me get before we get into it. I just wanted to say, everybody
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They're the best insights, the best. All right, let's do it.
1:04:40
We got the best insights that they always tell me. These insights are
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1:04:45
It's going on in Triple A right now. I don't care anyway,
1:04:50
So there's that now. So he's talking about Triple A gaming specifically, which
1:04:57
Mark Kern and I I will also like co sign this just don't buy any
1:05:00
Triple A games for like two years, just absolutely starve them for two years
1:05:05
and just to play your backlog, support Double A, support Indie, anything
1:05:10
else, or just don't play video games at all. But I think we
1:05:12
can do it. I mean, you know, sometimes in order to do
1:05:15
the right thing, you have to do something that's uncomfortable. But anyway,
1:05:17
I'll get back to just Indy. Do you remember it was just depression Quest
1:05:23
and all of the Yeah. See, the problem is is that there's a
1:05:26
lot of pause content. But the difference is that like you can avoid like
1:05:30
the you know, like you know what the worst genre is I think for
1:05:34
for like totally like cringe feminist content, it's the dating simulators. Stay the
1:05:40
fuck away from this dating simulators. Guys, please, maybe you like that
1:05:44
stuff. Okay, I'm not gonna tell you what to buy, but like
1:05:46
think about it like this, okay, because it's coming from the same place.
1:05:50
The people who are writing fiction are writing these games, and like they're
1:05:56
the more narrative focus the game is, the more or they can you know,
1:06:00
essentially doctor it to their particular likings. So, Alison, if you're
1:06:04
talking about how awful literature is right now, especially probably like romance or you
1:06:10
know, young adult novels are well, guess what, a lot of the
1:06:13
narrative video games they'll be like, you know, the dating sims or the
1:06:17
life is Strange type games. They're gonna have that same you know, paused
1:06:24
influence. So you can just play something else. There's plenty of good indies.
1:06:29
Just be discerning, and the thing is that those tend to be cheaper,
1:06:33
you know, and just go with word of mouth. So well,
1:06:38
what I was going to say is that, honestly, romance is one of
1:06:42
the few genres I have any hope for left. And the reason why is
1:06:45
because at the very least the end of the book, the woman will end
1:06:48
up appreciating one man. You know, Well, I don't know, is
1:06:53
that like, is that maybe? Is that even the goal of a romance
1:06:56
novel? Like what if they don't and that way? What if it's just
1:06:59
well, that's not okay, all right. The platonic ideal platonic ideal of
1:07:03
a romance is that both characters are each other's adversaries, and the conclusion of
1:07:10
the romance is that they recognize they have to set aside their own ego to
1:07:15
gain something more from the relationship. So that's the way romance is supposed to
1:07:19
be written. Everything else is not a freaking romance. Technically, romances that
1:07:25
end tragically not romances. Well that's a technically. Literally, it's called the
1:07:30
tragedy. So but then it's only it's it's it's recognized as a tragedy,
1:07:35
which is does have itself a romantic element, because the fact that it didn't
1:07:41
end the way you wanted it to tells you that it should not have ended
1:07:45
that way, and that's why you find it tragic. But okay, well,
1:07:47
anyway, let's play this. It's like a it's a tragedy with romantic
1:07:49
elements. Yeah. The platonic ideal of romance is that both characters set aside
1:07:56
their ego in favor of pursuing, like a the relationship. Now, there
1:08:01
are fake romances out there in which the women doesn't woman does not do this,
1:08:06
but you know, I'm getting into the one true romance I think.
1:08:13
But honestly, I would say that, like whatever, you whatever, these
1:08:16
romantic writers are writing, it's not romance unless the woman is also setting aside
1:08:21
her ego. Yeah, family, good luck with that. Okay, I'm
1:08:27
want to play the video. Now, the actual sweet baby thing in a
1:08:30
moment. The other thing I want to clarify is the other reason this is
1:08:33
not gamer Gate part two, and I'm not going to participate in Gamergate part
1:08:38
two if it is. Remember what what was the only thing that happened as
1:08:42
a result that was that Gamergate one actually contributed to what was it? Donald
1:08:46
Trump getting elected. The whole reason that thing got rolling was because, you
1:08:51
know, no one knew it at the time, but Steve Bannon was going
1:08:56
around stirring up these pockets of Internet outrage so that Donald Trump could get so
1:09:01
that everyone would get behind Donald Trump, well not having Donald Trump as president.
1:09:06
And noticed, by the way, the timing that Gamergate two quote unquote
1:09:10
just seems to happen to be rolling out right right as they're trying to get
1:09:15
Donald Trump reelected. You know, notice just to stop for a minute and
1:09:19
just understand, Donald Trump not being president matters a hell of a lot more
1:09:26
to me than gamer game than anything going on in video games. Okay,
1:09:32
can I just okay, I am politically agnostic. I do not think that
1:09:39
Donald Trump getting elected or not getting elected matters more than what is happening in
1:09:45
gamer in in games, or literature, or art or Hollywood or TV.
1:09:55
Maybe maybe I'm an asshole or I'm wrong, but I think that those are
1:09:59
more important because that is the substrate for our future and how we view ourselves.
1:10:04
Okay, Now, if Donald Trump gets elected, he probably will be
1:10:10
constrained by the same things he was constrained by for the first time, as
1:10:14
will anybody who gets elected, because this change is not going to come top
1:10:17
down. It's going to come bottom up, and the bottom up changes come
1:10:23
through stories. Okay, go ahead, And I honestly I think that this
1:10:30
idea that the politics is more important than the culture is wrong on its face.
1:10:35
And I don't have a strong opinion about who wins the race. I
1:10:40
mean, I think probably the one who's less likely to get you guys into
1:10:44
a war is better. But you know, I'll leave that up to Americans
1:10:46
because I'm not one. Sounds like that, sounds like Trump to be,
1:10:50
I mean, I'm not. Like. All I will say is that something
1:10:56
is wrong with his brain, that he is okay with forever wars returning,
1:11:01
which it did like immediately after Joe Biden went into office, runaway inflation.
1:11:09
You know, the border is wide open, Like I mean, we can
1:11:12
bring Karen on and she can go on for hours about all the things that
1:11:15
are wrong with the way our country is going right now and all of the
1:11:19
things that did not go wrong when Trump was in office. This is not
1:11:23
me being a suck up maga guy. This is me just looking at what
1:11:28
was really happening and saying, look, things aren't that bad. Yes,
1:11:30
the media went crazy, but that's not the people that's like elitist manhattanites,
1:11:36
you know, like whining because I don't even know what because they're you know,
1:11:41
their favorite pedophile isn't running the country or whatever. So this is complete.
1:11:47
This is why I said I don't think he's an autist because this is
1:11:50
completely irrational. I don't know if like his lesbian friends are rubbing off on
1:11:55
him and they're the ones that are really angry and it gets better because it's
1:11:59
rubbing off. Yeah, they're rubbing off in him, like you know,
1:12:03
both you know, symbolically and literally. But I mean, because it doesn't
1:12:12
make any sense. I'm sorry, guys. Look, I've been dealing with
1:12:15
people that have TDS for like, what is it twenty four now? So
1:12:18
what since since fucking twenty sixteen? And I have I have never been a
1:12:28
diehard MAGA person. I just was like, well, who's the best option
1:12:32
of what is out there? I'm sure there's some guy somewhere in our country
1:12:36
that could run the country better than anyone else. But guess what, that
1:12:40
guy's not running, So who's the best option? Okay, this I think
1:12:44
it's Trump right now? Right, he's like the outsider whatever. He's again,
1:12:47
no wars, no wars. When he was in office, like,
1:12:51
he ended shit, that was it. He made deals with people, He
1:12:56
shook hands with fucking Kim Jong un and took pictures with him, right,
1:13:00
and then he leaves and all of a sudden, Now what's happening? What
1:13:02
do we got? We got Ukraine and Russia, we got fucking Israel and
1:13:08
Palestine, and then Iran just sent a bunch of drones over there. We
1:13:11
got China moving in on Taiwan. Why wasn't this happening in twenty nineteen?
1:13:15
Why wasn't this happening? And we have wait wait, okay, not only
1:13:20
that, but our border is wide open. And now the people who were
1:13:25
calling it racist to put a wall up before are saying, wow, you
1:13:28
know that's we should probably do something about this immigration problem now. That there's
1:13:31
fucking people squatting in their mansions and they're like, why are these immigrants over
1:13:35
here? Why are people being killed by like random imigrants. Why are their
1:13:40
children like literally with phone numbers written on them to send them to like sweatshops
1:13:45
and like sex traffickers. It's been proven like this is happening, and Trump
1:13:50
said that was happening when he was running for office. So I'm not saying
1:13:55
he's God, but dude, he was right about a lot of things.
1:13:59
And we have to remember when I was talking about ego before. Yeah,
1:14:01
we got to squash that and say I was wrong and we got to fix
1:14:04
it. And this guy, he is so insane. This is completely unhinged
1:14:11
behavior, and it gets worse and I'll play more so like, you can
1:14:14
be indifferent if you want to, but I'm not asking people to choose a
1:14:16
side. I'm not asking for that. And I know that this won't be
1:14:19
sold top down, but but he can, he can make things less worse,
1:14:27
and that would be nice. We want. What we want from the
1:14:30
government is for them to get the fuck out of the way. And the
1:14:31
only way that will happen is if we have people in office that will be
1:14:36
less of an obstacle so that we can build society. That's the purpose of
1:14:41
the state. You can't pretend like it doesn't have an impact, because it's
1:14:45
having an impact now because it's overreaching like crazy. I mean, we're being
1:14:48
monitored by the Department of Homeland Security right now. The FBI is on the
1:14:54
internet watching people. There are people being thrown in prison, thrown in prison
1:14:59
for standing near the Capitol on January sixth. The government is not the solution,
1:15:05
but it is the problem, and we have to minimize it. But
1:15:10
it will always exist. You cannot live in a world without the states because
1:15:14
we have been raised to be dependent on it. So what we want is
1:15:18
a state that is as little intrusive as possible. That's the reality. So
1:15:25
we're just gonna have to work with that, all right. Now. That
1:15:30
as me, I'm gonna give my two cents here. He wants gamergate to
1:15:36
stop, Gamergate two to stop because he does not want a particular politician to
1:15:43
come into power. That is ridiculous. First of all, that's a meme,
1:15:48
dude. Now this may be actually his autism showing big time, but
1:15:54
it is a meme that gamergate got Trump elected. It's ridiculous. It's probably
1:16:00
highly unlikely, Okay. But to say that, oh, we we shouldn't
1:16:09
oppose this force of cultural negation because somebody you don't like is gonna end up
1:16:15
in a political office is insane. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna say where I'm
1:16:21
coming from, all right, and this is gonna possibly offend people. But
1:16:27
I was permanent. I was banned from the US for five years as a
1:16:31
result a direct result of one of Trump's memos and probably also some kind of
1:16:38
Department of Homeland Security shenanigans. Right, that's something that happened to me.
1:16:43
So I guarantee that Trump's existence has harmed me more, infinitely more than this
1:16:49
man than it has harmed this man or any of his friends or most Americans,
1:16:56
all right, including the ones who are insanely opposed to him. And
1:17:00
yet I can see that he does not He does not strike me as being
1:17:09
the second coming of Satan. Okay, Right, he doesn't strike me that
1:17:15
way. Okay. I don't have this level of animus, okay. And
1:17:20
the reason why I don't have this level of animus is because I'm not nuts,
1:17:26
Like there's no there's no man in necessarily in American politics that really deserves
1:17:31
this level of animus or I don't see any particular person and maybe I'm just
1:17:38
ignorant, maybe Biden this level of animus. But it's just like, could
1:17:44
you could you chill right? Could you chill out? Could you just be
1:17:46
like, okay, well, he is a politician, all right. You
1:17:50
know he has particular, uh viewpoints that probably would benefit you guys if he's
1:17:57
more prone to getting the government out of your way, you know, whatever
1:18:01
you whatever stance you have on that. Fine, But to say that we
1:18:06
should that people should stop defending the fundamental components of of human cultural inheritance.
1:18:15
Like I can't emphasize this enough. This is our cultural inheritance, right,
1:18:21
the people should stop defending it because it has an outside possibility that it might
1:18:27
get a guy you don't like elected. That's freaking absurd. Yep, it's
1:18:33
and I'm saying that as somebody who you know, if Trump gets elected,
1:18:39
I may never be able to go back to the US. Oh, Alison,
1:18:42
stop it, stop it. He didn't. He didn't single you out.
1:18:45
He didn't go hey, let's ban Allison. He didn't do that.
1:18:49
That's that's absurd. No, But Allison stop stop it, stop it.
1:18:56
That was a problem before he got into office. He didn't do that to
1:18:59
you like it just you know, it's this is a fair criticism that he
1:19:08
did send a memo to the Northern Border about the very thing that got me
1:19:13
banned. Now, it probably is some kind of weird collusion between also being
1:19:17
on, for whatever reason, the Department of Homeland Securities watch list, but
1:19:23
this is a contributing factor to it. It just is. And I'm not
1:19:28
saying he targeted me specifically. He just targeted the nationality that I'm a part
1:19:31
of. And I'm not even saying he necessarily targeted it. He may not
1:19:35
have even really thought about the effect at all. He was just concerned with
1:19:41
American interests. I'm saying that I have more legitimate right to be crazy than
1:19:48
this individual. And I can look at this. This man is advocating for
1:19:54
American interests. First. Okay, Yeah, I went through a horrible experience,
1:19:59
but I can respect that. Okay, there you go. Yeah,
1:20:02
yeah, I mean we can say it's a problem of bureaucracy or whatever.
1:20:06
I don't think anybody wasted bureocracy can say this problem with local warlordism in the
1:20:14
the people who monitor the nor Northern border. Whatever you want to say.
1:20:16
My overall point is that I have more legitimate reason to be pissed, and
1:20:21
I can still be objective and say, is this man a benefit to his
1:20:28
people? Yes? Or no? Okay, now, I don't know what
1:20:30
what about? Like I'm going to keep my opinion reserved on Biden. I'm
1:20:36
not. I don't really, I'm just saying that I'm saying he has no
1:20:42
cause to be this insane. No, I think I think it's technic culture.
1:20:48
People shouldn't protect their cultural inheritance. People should like a cultural inheritance is
1:20:54
as important as a genetic inheritance. M h. It's as important as who
1:21:00
you are genetically, maybe even more, because it becomes who you are emotionally
1:21:04
in your soul. And the fact is that he's saying, oh, I
1:21:09
don't like this person, so you know, off the offhand chance, yeah,
1:21:13
you guys, protecting your cultural inheritance will lead to this guy bullshit.
1:21:15
That is the shittiest That is the shittiest reason possible. And I see that,
1:21:23
Okay, right, No, I mean I agree, And then again,
1:21:26
you know, like it's kind of a well, it's a non starter
1:21:31
because We're gonna do what we're gonna do anyway. Call it whatever you want.
1:21:35
I don't care. You don't want to call it gamergate too, Call
1:21:38
it ooga booga, lula, whatever you want to call it, right,
1:21:41
call it rubber baby, bubby, buggy bumpers. It's still happening. There's
1:21:45
nothing you can do about it. And if it leads, like I mean
1:21:47
whatever, right, So he's just he's trying to like suggest that there were
1:21:53
people pulling levers behind the scenes. You know why Steve Bannon got involved with
1:21:57
like Gamergate in any way was because Milo Yanopolis got involved a gamer Gate and
1:22:00
they knew each other. Do you know why Milo Yanopolis got involved with gamer
1:22:03
Gate because nobody else wanted to talk to us. So, like if you're
1:22:08
if you're questioning, like how did it happen? It wasn't like they took
1:22:12
the reins. It's because when gamers were attacked, the left wouldn't talk to
1:22:17
us, kind of like men, you know, when men are like in
1:22:19
trouble and the left says, fuck you, guys, You're the reason for
1:22:23
all the problem and the suffering in the world, and then they go to
1:22:26
Andrew Tait instead. Yeah, that's kind of the same fucking thing. So
1:22:30
what are you gonna do. Well, you probably should listen to men and
1:22:32
maybe like hear up their grievances and maybe address them. Oh maybe you you
1:22:38
you know, Commi's over at Kotaku. Should listen to gamers, But you're
1:22:41
not going to, so they're gonna go somewhere else. So when they do,
1:22:45
you don't get to get angry about that. Nope, Andy, I
1:22:50
just want to point something out, like listening to men requires also requires men
1:22:57
letting go of their ego around being the one men. Mm hmm. For
1:23:00
sure. It's a dynamic between men and women. Like that's I think the
1:23:04
big difference between me and feminists. They're like, oh, it's men oppressing
1:23:06
women. No, it's a dynamic. It's men having a particular way of
1:23:12
viewing themselves and women having a particular way of viewing themselves and both interacting toxically.
1:23:18
Right, Okay, yeah, I'm playing Moore. There is no cause
1:23:21
on this earth that I can and I'm not kidding, there's no cause on
1:23:26
this earth that I care about more than Donald Trump not being president. I
1:23:31
care like I you know, you want to stay you want me to choose
1:23:34
between Donald Trump being president and not having annoying cinchy shit in video games.
1:23:42
Sorry, this matters a lot, a whole fuck of a lot more.
1:23:45
Why I hear why because he watches the Daily Show like it's a religion,
1:23:49
That's why. Because he's Look, this is the funny thing about these people.
1:23:54
Okay, they were supporting gamer Gate, and one of the prime i'mary
1:24:00
issues, like, if not the lynch pin outside of the Zoe Quinn thing
1:24:05
that just brought attention to it, I'm talking the lynch pin of gamer gate
1:24:11
are the gamers or dead articles? And it exposed the bias of the media
1:24:16
in games journalism, but that later became criticism of all media, rightfully,
1:24:23
So we were already doing that. We would go through articles from The Guardian
1:24:27
and Slate and MSNBC and CNN, the BBC and ABC and all these other
1:24:32
like you know, news organizations, and we were learning that they were all
1:24:38
full of shit, and they were also all on the same page, and
1:24:40
a lot of them, like you know, a lot of the same people,
1:24:43
they all knew each other and all that. So there was obviously a
1:24:45
tremendous amount of bias in not just games journalism, but journalism period. And
1:24:51
we were also getting to the root of where it was coming from. A
1:24:54
lot of it was starting in you know, university and education. You basically
1:24:58
create a bunch of activists and they like to write blogs, and you put
1:25:01
them in the into the world of journalism where they get to put their spin
1:25:05
on everything. So we knew that the media have been lying to us.
1:25:12
They're like, the main reason why where where there is any measurable divide is
1:25:16
because the media lies constantly. And yet these people who should have known that
1:25:25
the media lies because of gamer gade, well they know. They were like,
1:25:29
well, the media, the games journalists lie, but not the real
1:25:32
journalists, not the real journalists that are doing real news. They never lie.
1:25:38
CNN there they never lie. Fucking PBS, they never lie. They
1:25:42
did like multiple hit pieces on like the misogyny in video games, but that's
1:25:46
but that's just an op ed. That's not news. The news people they
1:25:50
never lie, right, And and of course they lied around the clock,
1:25:56
and all of them in Unison about the same as whether it was about it
1:26:01
could have been about Trump, but didn't have to be. They would they
1:26:04
lied about us, They lied about men's rights, activists and and the icami
1:26:09
they lied about yeah recently they did. They lie about Gamergate. They lie
1:26:14
about you know, Christians, like they lie about whoever is the group that's
1:26:17
that they consider the out group. And for some reason, guys like this
1:26:21
guy, guys like you know, the guy who's doing the Gamergate documentary,
1:26:26
Well he believes that while all of the lies about gamers are on point,
1:26:31
like those people are lying and I can tell about this little petty shit,
1:26:35
but when it comes to really important shit, no, no, no,
1:26:38
they would never lie. Are you fucking kidding me? Like, if the
1:26:42
media can lie about the pettiest shit like video games, why wouldn't they lie
1:26:46
about important shit like wars? You know what I mean? And they do.
1:26:51
And so like, all I'm doing is taking the same skepticism that I
1:26:56
had about, you know, issues regarding feminism and men's issues in gamer Gate
1:27:00
stuff and and whatnot, and I'm just taking that to its logical conclusion.
1:27:04
And I'm carrying the same skepticism into the real news of the world. And
1:27:09
I'm just like, well, is this true? I don't know, these
1:27:12
people are always lying? Why like how many times? Right? But Jordan
1:27:15
knowing here he doesn't have the ability to say, well, the games journalists
1:27:19
lie, but they're totally right about Trump. And that's why I'm baffled.
1:27:24
I'm like, well, what is it that? What's the danger? I
1:27:26
don't know because I haven't been able to find it. And the truth is,
1:27:30
I don't watch CNND, so I'm not under the programming. I don't
1:27:33
watch them, and they just because they lie all the time, Like how
1:27:36
many times does somebody lie to you before you just stop listening to them?
1:27:42
You know what's right? Someone apparently forever Well, the thing is that he
1:27:46
hasked to admit that he was lied to. He would, but they can't.
1:27:50
Again, it's right. You can't near to fool someone than to convince
1:27:55
them that they have been fooled. Exactly. Yes, all right, let's
1:27:59
play this Donald Trump not being president. And I am not kidding when I
1:28:02
say I don't care. Short of I don't believe we should not get to
1:28:05
the point we should not be rooting for assassination. I don't want that.
1:28:09
I'm not calling for assassination at all. But short of that, there is
1:28:13
nothing, nothing that I'm not in favor of. I want a stolen election.
1:28:18
I want the if the people. If the will of the people is
1:28:23
is Donald Trump, I want the will of the people defied by the people
1:28:27
in power. I want you literally want to destroy democracy. A republican,
1:28:32
you literally want to destroy the republic in order to avoid this guy. That's
1:28:39
uh, that's pretty insane. It's just your tip. This is Allison.
1:28:45
I know you're not gonna like this, but this is typical of leftists.
1:28:48
This is typical of statists. Statism is leftism. This is what they do
1:28:54
well because I think that you have a tendency to be like, well,
1:28:57
let's yeah, you know, And so I'm just saying this is not that
1:29:00
abnormal, Like if you go to the comments and people are like oh yeah,
1:29:04
yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean for their own good, Like
1:29:06
why why would we let people vote for who they want? What is this
1:29:11
some kind of republic? We can't have that because the Orange Man. And
1:29:15
you know, honestly, I gotta say, if it wasn't him, let's
1:29:19
say that it was Vivak Ramaswami that ended up being the nominee, it'd be
1:29:23
the same shit, Like, it's not about who it is, it's about
1:29:28
the idea that they don't think people should have a choice. They think that
1:29:31
they know what is best for us, and they promote that. That's I'm
1:29:35
gonna say something. Fascism starts with an enemy sure and out out like out
1:29:43
of control threat response, and that's what I'm seeing here, Like was he
1:29:46
really that bad? Like did you know? No? Well, I mean
1:29:50
he did institute the COVID of the kof shit, But well again, I
1:29:55
think that that started off with no one knowing what was going on. But
1:29:58
he said three weeks to stop spread, and he never mandated the JAB.
1:30:01
He never did that. That came after then there were mandates. He said
1:30:06
three weeks to stop the spread. I know. Look, I get it.
1:30:09
I think there's criticisms, but I think they should be fair. And
1:30:12
I think that being that we didn't have all the information, that's kind of
1:30:16
like what it makes sense that that things turned out that way? Okay,
1:30:20
go ahead, What is it that was that happened that was so awful?
1:30:25
Like the guy like, honestly, if you look at this mean on Twitter,
1:30:29
basically a little left of Bill Clinton. So get over yourselves. I
1:30:32
was alive with Bill Clinton was around right, And I'm not gonna like your
1:30:36
threat response is out of control and Fascism truly begins with an enemy, because
1:30:44
that's what convinces people to do crap like this, get rid of constitutional protections,
1:30:51
get rid of a representational republic, you know, get rid of all
1:30:58
of that, just because you want to neutralize your enemy du jour. All
1:31:03
right, we're not at war with Oceania. Okay, somebody opposing you is
1:31:11
not evil. And it's like, this is what I saw when we were
1:31:15
on that channel Wick okay, out of control threat response response. This is
1:31:23
you know how I said that when women don't have families, they go into
1:31:29
these bizarre states where they project project their instincts to nurture something vulnerable onto minorities.
1:31:34
Yeah, and Karen called that the monolithic infant class. I think single
1:31:39
men and maybe he isn't single, who knows, but he's definitely infested with
1:31:44
this. Single men do the same thing when it comes to threat response.
1:31:48
Their threat responses are outrageous and unhinged. Instead of protecting a family, they
1:31:55
protect their ideologies. It's almost like there's a benefit to a class of people
1:32:01
if you turn men into this kind of person, just like there's a benefit
1:32:05
to a certain class of people if you turn women into you know these kind
1:32:10
of like infantilizing act like this. If this man had children, do you
1:32:15
think he'd be saying like, oh, that's that's terrible. No, basic
1:32:18
fundament No, because he'd be thinking about yeah, because he'd be thinking about
1:32:23
the world he would leave behind. Right, he'd be thinking, that's a
1:32:26
future that his children have to be in. He would have a more accurate
1:32:30
threat response because included in it would be I need to I need to work
1:32:35
towards a stable society for my children. Right. That's what's missing, yea.
1:32:43
And if he is a father, it's still missing. That is what's
1:32:45
seeing in this man. I'm gonna go on a limb and say he's not.
1:32:48
But I got some super child. I should read them before they disappear.
1:32:51
So let me just read them really quick and we can play some more
1:32:55
of this. Richard Pierre gives us five bucks and says, are you trying
1:32:58
to summon burger king? I don't. I don't get that. But he
1:33:00
puts a burger and a king a crown, so I'm assuming that means burger
1:33:04
king, thank you, And then it's it's a it's a burger king and
1:33:11
fry, So that's an acronym that refers to a specific oh poster. I
1:33:15
don't know if he's still in the discord. He may have left. I
1:33:19
put him in the center of the maze. It was really funny because at
1:33:24
one point we had like this invasion by I don't know it was either communists
1:33:28
or feminists, and I warned them, I said, don't go into the
1:33:30
center of the maze because there is a minotaur at the center of the maze
1:33:33
and his name is Burger King and fries. Oh. And then they tried
1:33:39
to insist that I know, I know who it is. His behavior and
1:33:43
attitudes reflected that of the entire discord. No, the person we have entombed
1:33:47
in our jail discord labyrinth jail is not who we consider to be a reflection
1:33:58
of what we believe. It was outrageous, but anyway, it was like,
1:34:03
you will you will hear about lesbians though if you go into the name
1:34:06
that's that the minotaur likes to talk about lesbians. Yeah, I do,
1:34:11
I do. I got it. Okay. Then I got another one from
1:34:13
anonymous for five bucks, and they say, do you do you think dogs
1:34:16
dogg O promifies, I don't know what that means, but thank you for
1:34:23
the esoteric comment. And then Richard Bierre gets us five bucks and says,
1:34:29
we just watched the Founder about how Ray Kroc basically stole the McDonald's name from
1:34:33
the McDonald brothers and essentially took over the brother's vision. It could be an
1:34:38
allegory about how bureaucracy's come into being. Don't forget how much saw nonsense became
1:34:43
so prevalent right after Trump got elected. So much of it was in niche
1:34:46
and obscure corners of the Internet, But the Trump election was a GOHO signal
1:34:49
for all of the activists to rise up on the same day at the same
1:34:54
time, as if there was some coordination and it was all choreographed ahead of
1:34:57
time. I tend to agree with that, because like stuff, stuff that
1:35:00
stuff that we didn't like, we considered to be fringe, is now like
1:35:06
it's basically at the highest in the highest offices of the land. Like stuff
1:35:12
like you know, being like age ender or whatever. All this like weird
1:35:15
pronound stuff that was like you know, originally in the in the catacombs of
1:35:19
Tumblr are now just like out there for everyone to see. So I think
1:35:25
there is something about that. And then Richard Pierre gives us five bucks and
1:35:28
says, we oh, okay, Brian, you hear me. Oh sorry,
1:35:30
you probably can't hear me. I guess no, I can hear you.
1:35:32
I can hear you. It's because all the feminists made the inroads.
1:35:36
Yeah, like this whacky like there, it's like a cordyce EPs, you
1:35:41
know, like it's got it's tendrils, and it was all feminism. They
1:35:45
got tendrils into everything because it appealed to powerful men's desire to save women.
1:35:51
And you know, it just got into influential tendrils everything everywhere. And then
1:35:57
this new infection piggybacked the old infection. Yep, it's like this weird concoct
1:36:04
like, but that's how it got in in the first place. Was feminism
1:36:09
was this construction. The rock comes through this construction or this framing of men
1:36:14
as being uh women's enemies. M and then everything else seems to fall down
1:36:20
from that. Okay, I don't say that. I think I know what
1:36:26
he means. Doggo promorphries. Oh oh, I get it. Yeah,
1:36:32
Actually we are aware that we are different from them. Mm hmm. So
1:36:38
maybe they like us quite a bit. I think they do. Yeah,
1:36:43
they just do they feel safer around us and we give them food? Richard
1:36:48
Bierre gives us five bucks and says we are at war with East Asia,
1:36:53
though, and then Zara Anx gives us five bucks and says the irony is
1:36:57
Jordan's advocating for both Gamers two and Donald Trump. He fully supported the first
1:37:01
twenty fourteen gamer Gate outing, necessary to mention since Trump didn't announce until the
1:37:06
mid twenty fifteen, and implies he'd support the second iteration if only Trump possibly
1:37:12
wouldn't have a chance to end up as president. Now, despite knowing the
1:37:15
home keys, I'm starting to think maybe the documentary might have been the fault
1:37:20
of Owens rather than Davis ARENI maybe I don't really know the story of that,
1:37:26
But all I would say is that, like I don't know, what
1:37:29
I would ask is that people just stop believing the media. Do your own
1:37:35
research, talk to people around you, get a sense of what reality is
1:37:41
because they're feeding you at line, you know, and it's it's making you
1:37:45
extremely You're like the most irrational autist I've ever seen. But anyway, let's
1:37:51
play some more because it gets better. Allison gets better. Stricken from the
1:37:56
record, if that is what's necessary to have no Donald Trump in the White
1:38:00
House ever. Again, the only thing I care about is making sure that
1:38:05
Captain Manosphere never gets another four years in the White House. Apparently Donald Trump
1:38:12
is Captain Manosphere two. By the way, no evidence of that. I
1:38:16
think. In one interview one time, he said, you know, men
1:38:21
have it tough too, Because they were trying to make it about women for
1:38:24
something. He said, men have it tough too, and men have problems,
1:38:29
and that we know, and that's it. Like, he didn't go
1:38:31
into a whole thing about the Duluthe model. Nobody's saying he's an mra,
1:38:36
you know. But I think that he was just acknowledging the fact that sometimes
1:38:42
it's not about women. Sometimes men also have issues. And of course the
1:38:46
media went on a fucking tirade because everything he says they have to use it
1:38:51
to demonize him, but they demonize men in the process. I remember what
1:38:57
was his name, the guy, Trevor Noah. The whole thing about it,
1:39:01
Trevor Trevor Noah did a whole thing on it. What was that say?
1:39:04
That's something I will definitely give Donald Trump. He's the only politician I've
1:39:08
ever heard that gives any attention to men's issues beside yeah, him and Phil
1:39:14
Josh in the UK, Philip Davies Josh Hawley did a whole speech on it.
1:39:17
But the beat but it is generally like unheard of because it isn't politically
1:39:24
expedient in general, like to do that, you know, in general,
1:39:29
like not just like feminists, okay, women don't like it when you put
1:39:32
the put the when you take attention away from them and put it on men,
1:39:36
like like this is like it could it could have been considered box office
1:39:41
typically poison, not box office I'm sorry, like you know, election poison
1:39:45
to do that. But he was I think he was already president when he
1:39:48
when he said that about men. So specifically, when you recognize women as
1:39:55
moral agents, it challenges their identity as damn's mm hmm. And it's it's
1:40:01
I've seen I've watched the discomfort that women get into. Like there's this one
1:40:06
woman I was listening to yesterday and she's older and she's on one of these
1:40:11
streams. Oh the name of the guy is uh Phoebus, I believe,
1:40:16
and he's on Twitter and he does streams regularly, so check it out.
1:40:19
Lots of conversation. It was interesting when I when I was listening to it,
1:40:25
Yeah, I was in there. I actually talked a long time and
1:40:27
Phoebus had definitely has a phobis Phobus or Phoebus. It's like a moon of
1:40:31
I think Obos, yes, Phobosbos yes. And yeah, I was on
1:40:39
there, and he's got a really hard story. I won't go into it,
1:40:43
but very very sad. But anyway, there was a woman on her
1:40:49
his stream that was talking about why can't men's issues be addressed without, you
1:40:55
know, demonizing women. I'm like, I'm thinking, I didn't say anything.
1:41:00
I was just listening to what she had to say, and then another
1:41:01
woman piped up and said, you can't take it personally. Gotta let that
1:41:04
go. I mean, there's no way to recognize men's issues without recognizing the
1:41:11
fact that women are often the instruments of harm in their life. That women
1:41:16
can be bad. That doesn't mean that women are universally bad, although if
1:41:20
they are held to no standard, they are more likely to be bad than
1:41:25
good. I'm gonna be honest, but it does. I mean, if
1:41:29
you judge things by men and whether or not women are harming men, like
1:41:34
that's completely novel. And since we don't, women get away completely get away
1:41:41
with all kinds of crappy behavior. So right now, before we establish that
1:41:45
women should be judged by how well they treat men and use the particular powers
1:41:50
granted to them by mother nature to not abuse and harm men or laws.
1:41:57
You know, until we do that, until we have that social attitude,
1:42:01
women will be a well, there will be a large point part of women
1:42:06
who are bad simply because they get away with it or they don't even know
1:42:10
they have to care about it, right, And that's just the way it
1:42:15
is. People generally are only a good as good as the standard you hold
1:42:18
them to. And you aren't going to change that by insisting on ignoring or
1:42:24
insisting on putting women's egos first, or their ego connection to being damsels,
1:42:30
because that's the real threat. When you say no, you're actually a moral
1:42:32
actor. You can be a villain or a hero as a woman. That
1:42:39
means you're no longer a damsel. Primarily you now have to make moral choices.
1:42:45
You have to put something outside of yourself as more important than yourself morally,
1:42:49
and they that that's a real threat to the identity that everything should revolve
1:42:55
around you? Which is the damsel identity? The damsel determines the villain.
1:42:59
The damsel determines the hero. The damsel determines the goal. The damsel determines
1:43:03
whether or not that goal is met. She determines everything in a story.
1:43:08
She is the story. She is the table. She is the table,
1:43:14
and that is threatened when you tell a woman you're not the table. M
1:43:18
h You know, you are just another person trying to get a table.
1:43:25
Mm hmm. Anyway, and I think that's what pisses women off about Pearl.
1:43:30
Yeah, for sure, all right, And I'm not kidding. I
1:43:33
am not kidding. Don't there's abandon any any pretext about that. I don't
1:43:41
want to hear about. Oh so you're in favor of destroying the United States
1:43:44
if it means keeping Donald Trump out of the White House, Yes, oh
1:43:48
my god, yes, a thousand times yes. If we have if we
1:43:54
have to keep making Donald Trump keep from being president, means that we have
1:43:59
to uh set up detonations around mar al Lago and floated out into the ocean.
1:44:05
I don't care. That was an extreme example to try to be funny,
1:44:11
but I don't care what we have to do. Uh, I don't
1:44:14
even care if he dies of natural causes. I'm not gonna call for anybody
1:44:17
to be assassinated. But if he if he keeled over, uh, just
1:44:20
from natural causes, I'd be perfectly fine with that. I don't care.
1:44:26
That's all. The only thing I care about rig the ballas I want to
1:44:30
go in. I want to go, huh, what where is this?
1:44:34
Like? What is this? Where is this coming from? It's Trump derangement
1:44:39
syndrome. Mouson, this is Trump derangement syndrome. This is what it looks
1:44:43
like. This is not this is not weird. This is not weird.
1:44:46
This is not abnormal. I'm sorry, guys, it's not I've seen it.
1:44:49
I've seen it. I've seen it in people that I that I like,
1:44:53
considered friends for like decades, and they stopped talking to me because not
1:44:57
because I said, you know, like I'm riding die for Trump, but
1:45:00
because I said, well, maybe he's not as evil as you think he
1:45:03
is. And they're like, well, I can't, I can't talk to
1:45:05
you. And you know what it is is that it's an investment of their
1:45:10
ego. They again like, look that people burned cities down across the country
1:45:17
for black lives matter because and part of it had to do with the fact
1:45:21
that Trump was in office. People supported that. They and they they explained
1:45:28
it away like, well, I can understand why people are angry, so
1:45:31
I guess that makes it okay. Now those cities will never recover, like
1:45:35
they will never recover, not in my lifetime, and they will never be
1:45:41
able to take a step back and say I should not have backed that horse.
1:45:46
What we're gonna say? You think what that have been damaged from riots
1:45:49
in nineteen Yeah, I've there are cities that there are neighborhoods. There are
1:45:55
neighborhoods in Chicago that never recovered from riots when Martin Luther King was assassinated.
1:46:01
They've never recovered. And after the twenty twenty Summer of Love stuff, this
1:46:08
was related to Trump because it was all a vehicle. It was an election
1:46:12
year. Was set up to do this on purpose, to discredit him in
1:46:15
the hopes that it would effective votes. They're trying to do it again this
1:46:18
year. I made a prediction. I think it was in like February.
1:46:23
I put out a short video on my channel and I said, they're going
1:46:27
to try to start another Summer of Love in twenty twenty four in order to
1:46:31
affect people's votes, and they're going to use an incident. All they got
1:46:35
to do is wait, because they've already like they've already let a bunch of
1:46:39
you know, illegals across the border. They've let them in. They're already
1:46:43
criminals in here. The squatting in people's houses, they're they're looting, they're,
1:46:46
you know, they're whatever. They're just like filling the streets. And
1:46:50
they've also in these major blue cities, they've like cut the budgets of policing
1:46:56
like way down, so cops can't do their job. And now all they
1:47:00
gotta do is wait. All they gotta do is wait because eventually, when
1:47:02
it gets warm enough and people get crazy, some something's gonna happen and there's
1:47:08
gonna be some incident that is politically expedient so that they can do more riots.
1:47:13
And they're gonna do more riots. That's I promise you, that's what
1:47:15
it is. It has nothing to do with everything they claim it is.
1:47:18
It's all about creating, like like you just lay out the pieces, you
1:47:24
know, we'll cut down the police, We'll let a bunch of illegals in
1:47:27
here, will you know, do all this like uh soft on crime ship.
1:47:31
We'll have like all of these das and they're gonna they're gonna take criminals
1:47:34
and like set them free the next day. We're not gonna hold them.
1:47:38
We're gonna have weird ass laws. And then we're just gonna wait. We're
1:47:42
just gonna wait, and then what will happen is someone will be killed under
1:47:45
circumstances that can be politically used to create the opportunities for riots, and there
1:47:50
will be riots, I promise you. In fact, something just happened in
1:47:56
Chicago, in Humble Park, where I lived before I moved here. A
1:48:00
black man was shot by police. And the way the media reported it was
1:48:03
they were like he was shot ninety something times, they just kept on unloading
1:48:08
in him. On MG, this is so bad. But when you look
1:48:11
at the story, the guy shot at the police first, and he refused
1:48:14
to comply, and basically it was just a shootout between two sides, right,
1:48:18
and it ended with his death. But the see, that doesn't matter.
1:48:21
That doesn't matter because this is not about that. This is about creating
1:48:25
opportunities for riots and violence just so that they can win the election. I
1:48:30
promise you that's what it is now, does it make sense? Absolutely not.
1:48:33
But does it matter to them No, of course, because their power
1:48:38
is what matters. They will stay in power for as long as it takes.
1:48:42
They will do pull every trick in the book. And Jordan Owen here
1:48:45
is a useful idiot because he is falling for it, just like most of
1:48:49
these leftists. They're useful idiots. They become activists that think they're smarter than
1:48:55
people that they're not, and they act on and agree with things that ultimately
1:49:00
to their own destruction, and even as the city burns down around them,
1:49:03
they will say this is the fault of Donald Trump or white supremacy or men
1:49:08
or whatever it is, whatever the scapegoat is, and they will just go
1:49:12
along with it. But you know, we should be worried about Project twenty
1:49:15
twenty five. That's the real problem. Okay, let's keep going, all
1:49:20
right. Go into the ballot box or into the voting booth on election day,
1:49:27
and if I check the Donald Trump box, I want it to go.
1:49:30
I want it to make a buzzing noise and go up and check Joe
1:49:32
Biden instead, and goes to Joe Biden like you can't even do it?
1:49:38
I want everything done to stop Donald Trump from being president and all of the
1:49:44
annoying woke shit. This is. It's not stuff I like, but it
1:49:51
is stuff that they get you to care about so that they so that you
1:49:55
will think that re electing the Orange Howler monkey is a good thing. So
1:50:00
anyway, so that's my that's where I am. I thought that was a
1:50:04
thing about abortion. Let me see if I can jump ahead, because that's
1:50:09
kind of crazy too. So that was a twelve minutes in. I guess
1:50:16
there's a little bit more about about Trump. I guess I don't know.
1:50:19
I could just jump to another part if you're tired of that. I think
1:50:23
we get this idea. He doesn't care about rules, he doesn't care about
1:50:26
tomorrow. You know, it's funny I have. I don't have a lot
1:50:30
of emotional investment in this, aside from being astounded that he would destroy his
1:50:34
country and the democratic process because of one man. But you know, like
1:50:43
it just seems like it's just the same shit over and over again. So
1:50:45
yeah, I would like to move to a different Yeah, we can move
1:50:47
on to the next bit. Uh yeah, I mean, you know,
1:50:50
like I don't know, uh so the next bit, you let me know
1:50:56
if this interests you. But because Great Indors did tag it, so at
1:51:01
thirteen minutes in about ethics in the gaming industry for what it's worth after the
1:51:04
previous section, then I don't know if that is worth it. Then there's
1:51:10
fifteen eighteen the open dialogue about woke stuff in media and how we don't need
1:51:14
jack booted thugs. I don't know that that's going to add much. I
1:51:18
remember watching it, but it didn't really. I was just like, well,
1:51:21
look, I think that you're not looking at this in the correct way
1:51:26
when it comes to like why our media is being sort of, you know,
1:51:30
vandalized, because that's what it is. We're experiencing cultural vandalism. It's
1:51:34
not because like there's no like real sort of like I don't know, authoritarian
1:51:43
force being used here, but there is a strong desire from elites like people
1:51:49
like Larry Fink, who said himself he wants to force behaviors and people at
1:51:57
Bridge and these people are you know this, this problem of the art being
1:52:03
used in this way, weaponized against people, it's old. This is a
1:52:08
very old thing. I've been I've been researching the art movements of history and
1:52:16
ever since the Enlightenment. Things have been going downhill in that regard. It's
1:52:25
become elitist, like very very elitist over time, and I think that we're
1:52:32
experiencing that, like it's sort of showing its face today in our not just
1:52:39
our visual art, although that's been going on for a long time, but
1:52:42
also in our media. So you know, when it was something that was
1:52:45
confined to like a gallery or a museum, maybe people would just like,
1:52:51
you know, they would just consider it subjective. They'd be like, well,
1:52:54
I like Andy Warhol, I don't like Andy Warhol or whatever, right,
1:52:57
and they would move on. But now that and at that time,
1:53:01
there was this distinction, like it was like you were either an artist or
1:53:04
you were an illustrators as a person who created like paintings or drawings or whatever.
1:53:10
And the difference was is your art saying something about the world that we
1:53:17
think is important? Not like all art is saying something, But what they're
1:53:23
saying is is is your art saying something that we think is important? Like
1:53:30
you know, when I think it was Marcel Duchamp when he did these he
1:53:36
did these interesting paintings of motion. I can't remember the name of him.
1:53:42
I think they were kind of untitled or it was like women on this woman
1:53:45
on the stairs or something, and it was like this very blurry painting that
1:53:47
was supposed to resemble a woman walking up some stairs or down or man descending
1:53:53
the stairs. That's what it was called, man descending the stairs. And
1:53:56
you could see what it was supposed to be. But it was very abstract.
1:54:00
But it was not a statement outside of anything else except he was exploring
1:54:05
like a new way of making things and his artwork. That artwork wasn't recognized
1:54:11
until later in his career. But what really put him on the map was
1:54:15
I think it's called the Fountain and that was when he took a urinal out
1:54:23
of the context of the bathroom. I think he turned it on its side
1:54:28
and he painted some letters on it and then put it as a display.
1:54:31
And this is like, this is like the very very famous piece now,
1:54:38
because what he was doing was he was subverting the concept of what an art
1:54:43
piece is, and of course so he was also mocking the art world.
1:54:48
He was but people took it seriously. Yes, I mean afterwards it like
1:54:53
he was like, well, I didn't mean for this to be like the
1:54:56
way we see it, but it did. Everyone was like and when I
1:55:01
say everyone, I don't mean regular people. I mean like I mean like
1:55:05
these sort of the snobby, elitist art world of curators and critics and museum
1:55:13
owners and gallery owners and such, right and collectors, and these were all
1:55:16
very like well to do, like you know, high society types. And
1:55:20
they would all stand around the fountain and they would stroke their beards and puff
1:55:26
on their pipes and and you know, and and talk at length about like
1:55:30
what it meant and they and this was like a thing that happened meanwhile,
1:55:34
you know, and that was it sort of like transformed. The entire art
1:55:40
world was transformed by that because then there was a great divide. And part
1:55:45
of it also had to do with the fact that we had the print.
1:55:46
We were able to print art now, so whereas in the past, you
1:55:50
know, if you made a piece, it was like you would have to
1:55:54
reproduce it in order for people to have their own. So like the individuality
1:56:00
of that piece was what made it special. But with but that that didn't
1:56:04
mean that normal people didn't have an appreciation for the beautiful, right, And
1:56:09
so like this changed the visual arts forever. Like after that, it was
1:56:15
just like this growing split between the contemporary which was constantly changing, and it
1:56:19
was very important again that it had a message that was political in nature ideally
1:56:27
or at least some kind of like activist message you got. And then there
1:56:30
were there were gatekeepers, you know, like I talked to Jay Ishiro and
1:56:35
kat Rocha who wrote a book I forget what it's called, but I do
1:56:41
have. It's called Boos. I think it's called Boobs of Steel. But
1:56:43
it was about the ways in which the art world, you know, was
1:56:47
gate kept, and and also the the fiction world was too. So you
1:56:51
know, they were talking about how these guys like Isaac Asimov for example,
1:56:56
Uh, they were these very famous science fiction writers, and they were,
1:57:00
but they were also gatekeepers in the sense that they would only promote other writers
1:57:04
that again made the kind of work that they felt should have been promoted because
1:57:12
it shared their values. So Isaac Asmov was a big fan of reducing the
1:57:16
population to save the planet. For example, he was okay with eugenics,
1:57:21
he was okay with you know, like essentially you know, killing people for
1:57:28
climate change or whatever, and you would put it in all his work,
1:57:30
and he would only promote other writers that would do the same thing. So
1:57:34
the few people who managed to still make an impact did so despite that,
1:57:41
Guys like Tolkien, the C. S. Lewis who kind of predated I
1:57:44
think they predated Asmov anyway, but even guys after that, like Heinlen and
1:57:47
the guy who wrote what's the name of those space books that are really popular.
1:57:53
I can't remember the name of it. They made a movie with Harrison
1:57:55
Ford. It was like some kid, do you know what I'm talking about?
1:57:59
It was a but the guy who wrote it there they they tried to
1:58:02
like essentially say well, you shouldn't read his books because he's a homophobe.
1:58:05
And there was no evidence of that, but people believed it. A guy
1:58:09
had a friend and class in my college that was like, oh, I
1:58:12
love this book, but I hate that guy because he's a homophobe. And
1:58:15
I was like, is he I mean, I didn't even know who he
1:58:16
was, you know. So I think that what enders game? Thank you,
1:58:23
Rambam, It's Enders game. I think that what I'm getting at is
1:58:27
that that same elitism that top down agree with our politics, agree with our
1:58:33
woke ideology. Otherwise your product, your piece of artwork, will not see
1:58:39
the light of day. That has been has spread out from the visual world
1:58:43
into film, television and video games now and it's it's the same shit.
1:58:49
So you all know this. Now you have to understand where this came from,
1:58:55
and you have to ask yourself how much beauty did you miss out on
1:58:59
because of these gatekeepers? How much have you missed out on? Because I
1:59:02
bet it was a lot. So anyway, and again, I'm not force
1:59:09
censoring anybody. I think that, Like you know, this is why I
1:59:13
don't like localization, because it's about changing the original intention to suit your sensibilities.
1:59:19
You know, this is the problem with that. It's not censorship,
1:59:25
it's vandalism to me, So orson Scott card Yes, that's right, thank
1:59:31
you. All right anyway, Alise, I'm sorry. Did you want to
1:59:35
say anything to that? Should I just play more? I think we should
1:59:39
just play more. Let's get through this, let's do it. I care
1:59:41
about not having Donald Trump in the playhouse, and I care about having a
1:59:46
democratically controlled Senate and Congress that will make abortion the law of the land.
1:59:51
And no, I don't care what other fallout happens from that. Yes,
1:59:56
I'm happy with killing babies. I have a totally subtled conscience about it.
2:00:00
Don't pester me about that ship anyway. So let's get back on the So.
2:00:04
So he's okay with killing babies. Well, I mean he's not even
2:00:11
he's not he's not even saying their fetuses, which I guess I'll give him
2:00:14
credit for that. But he's just okay with killing babies. And yeah,
2:00:18
but that that means that he might be okay with killing babies when they're they're
2:00:24
outside the womb. At least he is okay with that. Yes, okay
2:00:28
with that? Yeah? Are you? This is so self destructive. It's
2:00:32
like you just want to destroy yourselves. This is like we're listening to one
2:00:38
of the one of the beautiful ones in the mouse utopia. He thinks it's
2:00:42
like an easy conclusion, Like not just an easy conclusion, an obvious one.
2:00:47
Oh yeah, well obviously, like why would you be against that?
2:00:53
I think this is I think this is actually evidence of his autism, because
2:00:56
I've noticed autists can, because they don't necessarily understand or relate to, like
2:01:04
the moral stuff, they can become so black and white in their morality.
2:01:09
M h. And so one hundred like one and ten percent driven towards a
2:01:15
moral certainty that is this unholy like. I'm pretty sure the inquisitors of the
2:01:25
Spanish revolutions some of them were autistic. Sorry, guys, I am,
2:01:30
I am, I am on the spectrum. So I can because I can
2:01:35
say that because there's such a level of pig headed certainty in your conclusions that
2:01:42
I see, and no I can. I can hear a certain Twitter commentator
2:01:47
say, but Alison, no, I have never been certain about the things
2:01:51
that I conclude. Even now I have to remind myself. Okay, where
2:01:58
else would society come from? But the relationship between men and women, I
2:02:03
guess not. I don't think it comes from the relationship between I don't know
2:02:09
the pink gender, like the the vaguely pastel pink stripe and then the vaguely
2:02:15
past stell blue stripe. I don't which which isn't male or female. It's
2:02:19
something else entirely, you know. I don't think it comes from them.
2:02:23
I don't think it comes from aliens. I don't think it comes from bears.
2:02:26
I don't think it comes from plate tectonics. I'm pretty sure society comes
2:02:30
from comes from men and women and the interaction between the two, with an
2:02:35
eye to actually being able to reproduce yep, why else? Well, this
2:02:40
is this is also how I know he doesn't have kids or or a wife
2:02:44
for that matter, because you couldn't. I don't think you could have that
2:02:49
opinion. That absolutely, But what do I know? All right? See
2:03:00
show? So should I play more of this? Now? There's other sections.
2:03:05
I don't know what great indoors like if he wants to go through all
2:03:08
of it, or if he has specific bits he wants us to jump to.
2:03:11
But there's later on there's an open dialogue about woke stuff in media and
2:03:14
how we don't need jack booted thugs, which I already read. I think
2:03:16
that's where that'd be the next bit. And there's disneysm plus and capitalism at
2:03:23
sixteen thirteen. Not much to say about that except stop using the word capitalism.
2:03:28
And then at seventeen minutes the good, the Bad, and the ugly
2:03:30
diversity, and then at nineteen minutes it says could be skipped. He talks
2:03:34
about Soul, and he thinks his Soul was a great movie. I did
2:03:38
not. I did not like that movie at all. I thought it was
2:03:40
just lame. I didn't hate it. I wasn't mad because of the supposed
2:03:45
diversity. I just didn't think it was a good movie. Then there's twenty
2:03:49
forty. He says Gamergate is a toxic, dead brand because of bad optics.
2:03:55
I don't give a shit about optics. I think caring about optics means
2:03:59
caring about win men's opinion. That's just me. And then at twenty to
2:04:01
eleven the Satanic temple and legal abortions. What thou wilt optics would have you
2:04:10
completely sent completely canceled, Jordan Ollen, Yes, like you're going to care
2:04:14
about things, then you have to live by the sword you choose to sharpen
2:04:19
right. That means you're a misogynist and a sexual harassmer. That's it.
2:04:26
That's the end, because those are the optics. Yep, okay, So
2:04:34
any of those sections you want to jump to or let me see from great
2:04:40
indoors. If he doesn't say anything, I'm happy with killing babies. I
2:04:43
got a super chow. I'm gonna read some super childs. Richard Bierira gives
2:04:46
us five and says, my favorite art troll was the team who placed a
2:04:49
pair of glasses on the floor in an art gallery while the public were discussing
2:04:57
the deep meaning behind it. At the end of the day, one team
2:04:59
picked up the glasses and put them on and left the gallery. There wasn't
2:05:01
even a car designating the glasses as an exhibit either. I got one that's
2:05:06
maybe just as good, if not better. There was a real art piece.
2:05:11
I've talked about this before. It was a pile of rock candies in
2:05:15
the corner of a room, a pile of little candies like penny candies,
2:05:20
root flavored, and people were encouraged to take one. And there was a
2:05:28
story that my professor, my art teacher, I'll just say art teacher,
2:05:31
I don't he was a professor. He had to explain it to us so
2:05:34
that we got the piece. He said that it was created by a guy
2:05:39
whose lover, who's whose husband or boyfriend was dying of aids, and the
2:05:47
pieces of candy represented his his lover slowly, like you know, degenerating till
2:05:54
he was dead. But the thing is so heed that so firstly, the
2:06:00
thing needed like a backstory in order to make sense. Secondly, he was
2:06:04
saying that, well, art now is not about what's stuff that you can
2:06:08
like take home and hang up on your wall, but it's all about like
2:06:10
stuff that you go to a museum to experience. But then he said,
2:06:14
there is one little problem with this is that in order for this piece to
2:06:17
remain like relevant, you have to keep they they at the end of every
2:06:21
night they refill the corner with candy. And it's like, well, so
2:06:27
it's like his lover never dies, because it doesn't. It doesn't actually end
2:06:31
with all the candy going away. So and this wasn't like in some like
2:06:35
small little indie gallery. This was in the Museum of the Art Institute of
2:06:41
Chicago, like one of the biggest art galleries in the country. Like they
2:06:45
have like van Go in there and Monet in there, and like Baroque,
2:06:50
gigantic Baroque painting, like beautiful paintings. They got like what do you call
2:06:55
those Japanese prints? Like they got crazy stuff and a pile of candy.
2:07:00
Thank you for that. Richard Pierre then gives us five bucks and says,
2:07:04
anyone remember how much of an insult it was to the men returning from Vietnam
2:07:09
to call them baby killers. Pepperch Farm remembers, when men do it,
2:07:13
it's baby killing, it's murder. Zarax gives us five bucks and says,
2:07:16
what Jordan said is what Bill Maher said on his show recently, almost word
2:07:20
for word, Mars Mars not autistic. Piers Morgan was on and tried to
2:07:26
shy away from that, and mar Mayor Mayor Bill Mayer, Bill Maher,
2:07:30
Bill Maher, Yeah, and mar confronted him on abortion as murder. I
2:07:33
believe Piers has kids. Okay, all right, thank you for that.
2:07:38
I'm going to preface this by saying that I am pro choice, although the
2:07:42
way that a lot of pro choice people approach this disgusts me. Like I
2:07:47
think that it is a very very difficult decision to make, right and it
2:07:51
should be the choice of the couple and the society should just just leave stay
2:08:00
out of it. But it is not something to celebrate. It's not something
2:08:05
to I don't think that, Yeah, I don't think it's something that it
2:08:09
should like second trimester. I don't even think that it should be appropriate in
2:08:13
the second trimester. Right. So it's like, this is this is not
2:08:20
something that should be public. It's not something that people should be talking about
2:08:26
like this. M it is a horrible thing, you know, it is
2:08:31
a devastating thing. It should be and this is this is this is not
2:08:37
the way to approach it. Honestly, the more that pro choice people act
2:08:41
like this are actually I think they're just anti babies, anti natal, the
2:08:46
more I'm like, I'm almost like I can well, I can definitely see
2:08:50
the the pro life point of view, you know. And the funny thing
2:08:56
is I was a lot more. I was a lot more I don't know,
2:09:00
I won't want to say rapidly, but maybe more callously pro choice mm
2:09:05
hmm before and now I can't stand because there's billboards in the in my province
2:09:15
that say things like abortion is healthcare. I'm like, no, it's not
2:09:16
healthcare. I'm not saying that it should be taken away as a choice.
2:09:22
Yeah, it's not healthcare. Right, Well, you can't. I don't
2:09:26
think you can call yourself a libertarian and be unquestioningly pro choice because you have
2:09:33
to, like, you have to be concerned with the non aggression principle,
2:09:35
which would mean that you have to be concerned about the the most important rights
2:09:41
that human beings have, which is a right to live and that, and
2:09:46
then you have to look at, you know, at the very least entertain
2:09:50
the possibility that it's important when you know, a fetus, like when life
2:09:56
begins, I mean that like that it, yeah, that's it, like,
2:10:01
yeah, you can't be a libertarian. And the thing is is that
2:10:05
like it always like now, the way that the discourse is it's only women's
2:10:11
choice, like it's only women's bodies that are affected. And I think that
2:10:13
that framing is part of the problem with this right because all of a sudden
2:10:18
we were putting well we're putting women's like preferences over thee like women's life suddenly
2:10:26
becomes more important than even the child obviously not the man, right that's already
2:10:31
been excluded. No uterus, no opinion, unless of course you agree,
2:10:37
in which case then you're allowed to have an opinion. Yeah. I mean,
2:10:41
like I said, it's a very serious topic. Yeah, it's not
2:10:45
something that should be treated to something that should be treated glibly like this.
2:10:50
And what I was trying to get at is, you know, a while
2:10:52
back, I didn't like the pro life billboards that they had, and now
2:10:56
I can't stand the pro the pro while the anti Native a billboards. Yeah,
2:11:01
you know, there has to be something like are is there any other
2:11:05
pro choice people out here? Like just disgusted by how glibly it's treated,
2:11:11
you know, And good question, is it possible to be pro choice but
2:11:15
also be like, you know, life is sort of sacred. It's unfortunate
2:11:18
that it comes down to these really hard choices sometimes. Mm hmmm. I
2:11:24
mean, obviously there's certain aspects of life on earth that are not ideal,
2:11:28
shall we say, but you know that that's that's my opinion on that,
2:11:35
and I the glibness of this really disgusted me. It makes me want to
2:11:41
to not associate with people like this. Yeah, all right, all right,
2:11:46
So so should I jump ahead to something else? Is there anything like
2:11:50
based on these notes you want to get to. We've been going for over
2:11:56
two hours. I don't know if you want to do the songs or I
2:12:00
don't you have to do the writing workshop or something I did. We should
2:12:03
probably try to finish this because this is a request. I'm looking at the
2:12:07
time codes. Okay, so we're at three thirteen thirteen, you know,
2:12:13
let's just go. Let's just to blaze through this. Just start playing,
2:12:18
and I don't think we need to stop for the banana, all right,
2:12:20
keep this actual, sweet baby. Well, this will be unless it's a
2:12:24
ink scandal or thing. Okay. The main reason that this is not Gamergate
2:12:30
two is because gamer Gate one was built around a scandal, or at least
2:12:35
a purported scandal. Now, to be very clear, I am not here
2:12:37
to relitigate the validity of that scandal. If you write into me telling me
2:12:43
how telling me how wrong the people pushing calling that a scandal are, or
2:12:48
you write into me telling me how right that was to be a scandal one
2:12:52
way or the other, I will delete and block you. We're not here
2:12:54
to have that conversation. I'm just bringing this up for historical He has no
2:12:58
opinion on the fundamental aspects of gamergate and why it started, but he definitely
2:13:03
has opinions on Trump and abortion. No, it's not that he doesn't have
2:13:09
an opinion, it's that he doesn't want to hear our other opinions, Like
2:13:13
I don't even know what he means by the scandal, because if he means
2:13:16
the Zoe Quinn thing, again, that's not really the issue. And Gamergate
2:13:22
two does revolve around a scandal. When Cabrutus Rambo created his scene group and
2:13:30
people from within Sweet Baby, Inc. Were calling for him to be banned
2:13:35
from Steam and lose access to thousands of dollars worth of games, which he
2:13:39
bought with his hard earned cash as a Brazilian, which, by the way,
2:13:43
and here's where the politics comes in. I'm unfortunate to say the Brazilian
2:13:48
dollar is worth almost nothing because of the socialist government that came in under during
2:13:54
an election that was pretty sketchy. And he's now trying to move to hand
2:14:00
because he has to get out of his own country because it's going to shit,
2:14:03
and he didn't want to lose thousands of dollars of his money that he
2:14:07
earned, and they were trying to get him deplatformed along with everybody else that
2:14:11
supported him. That's kind of a bigger scandal than some bitch sucking five dis
2:14:16
Yeah, that's true. And also it's a less like if you squint,
2:14:20
you can maybe make the original gamer Gate one or the the what set it
2:14:26
off to be misogynist or targeting a woman. I'm not saying it is,
2:14:31
but at least it's more in the ballpark than what happened with Cabrutas in the
2:14:35
situation. Now, Yeah, and of course they're they're doing the same the
2:14:41
journalists are doing the same time. I'm curious to see how he's going to
2:14:43
characterize it. So let's keep going, all right, let's see, was
2:14:46
based around the whole thing, The whole original gamer Gate launched because of a
2:14:52
scandal, a purported scandal, namely that there was a female game developer that
2:14:56
was purportedly sleeping with a number of men within the gaming industry and games journalism
2:15:03
that could serve to benefit her career. Okay, that was the scandal.
2:15:07
Now that on its face, yes, would be scandalous. That would be
2:15:11
an example of ethical malfeasans. And again we're not here to litigate whether or
2:15:16
not it was. If you try to argue it one way or the other,
2:15:20
I'm going to delete and block you. I don't care how long you've
2:15:22
been on my channel anyway, the point being that would be an example that
2:15:28
in and of itself would be a description of something unethical. These companies hiring
2:15:33
Sweet Baby Inc. To come in and spruce up their games with woke the
2:15:37
icraft. That's their prerogative, that's their initiative. If they want to do
2:15:41
they're right if they want to bring that in, that's fine, and just
2:15:45
as it's your right not to play those gamescandal, that's not the scandal.
2:15:48
That's not the scandal. The scandal is the censorship Okay, the censorship and
2:15:54
the desire to take away essentially to steal from Grimuver's rambo. That's what it
2:16:00
is. To steal his money, to punish him for pre curating a list
2:16:05
of all of the sweet Baby inc initiatives. Okay, that's it. That's
2:16:09
the scandal, is the censorship, right, that is the problem. Okay,
2:16:16
So I'm guessing he doesn't recognize that. He doesn't either he doesn't know
2:16:20
it also, which means he's ignorant and didn't look into it, or he
2:16:24
knows it and is being disingenuous. Also, I have right to not buy
2:16:30
it, yes, and to know what is in the things that they buy.
2:16:35
Yes. The thing is the ultimate case for Gamergate two is like the
2:16:39
most obvious one. It's like, I don't like, you can have whatever
2:16:45
opinion you want about what how I choose to spend my money, but you
2:16:50
can't change how I choose to spend my money. Like that's it. Like
2:16:52
I'm not supporting you, and that's it. Like and then and they they
2:16:56
don't know what to do with that, because you see, they don't believe
2:17:00
in property rights. They don't they believe this is why these people only get
2:17:05
involved with the largest and most popular ips, like whatever it is, whether
2:17:11
it's in film or whatever, because they think that we are sheep and we'll
2:17:16
just buy whatever they put because it has our brand on it, and we
2:17:20
are hopefully making a conscious choice to say, no, that's not the brand
2:17:26
that I fell in love with. You're wearing a skin suit. I'm not
2:17:28
going to support that. And they get mad because they can't control what I
2:17:33
buy. Now. Of course, if they take over everything, then they're
2:17:37
the logic is, well, now you can't escape it, right, But
2:17:41
we can just choose not to do it at all, which is what I'm
2:17:43
doing for the next two years. I will not give them a cent and
2:17:48
I'll I don't care if the whole thing burns down. And they're actually losing
2:17:52
their minds right now. They're like, oh my god. So many like
2:17:54
studios are like having to cut jobs and people are getting fired, and it's
2:17:58
like, well, okay, I mean you asked for it. The last
2:18:01
thing you should do, as somebody who produces anything, is insult the fucking
2:18:05
customers. So this is literally just the way that property works, guys.
2:18:11
That's it. Like, you know what, every time I go to food
2:18:16
line instead of Kroger. I discriminate, and I have a right to do
2:18:20
that, you know, I mean, it's so obvious you can't do that.
2:18:28
The thing is really interesting about all of this is that there is a
2:18:31
collusion between government and corporation that's going on, and the end result is forced
2:18:35
consumption. Have you noticed that, Like, it's not just not respecting property
2:18:41
rights, it's that you will be forced to spend money on what is acceptable
2:18:46
and you will be forced to consume what we decide. So, for example,
2:18:52
recently, there was this collusion between government and corporations in which the corporation
2:19:00
decided whether or not a particular product was going into your bloodstream and you did
2:19:05
not, and they did put all kinds of pressure, especially in Canada,
2:19:09
to take away your right to say no, I am not going to be
2:19:15
forced to consume this product. And I remember I remember talking to the quote
2:19:20
unquote now and you know what, I don't even think they're they're leftists anymore.
2:19:24
They're corporatists. I remember talking to the corporatists like this one on Twitter,
2:19:28
and I said, okay, fair enough. You know, there there
2:19:31
is a worldwide emergency, medical emergency, and you feel like the consumption of
2:19:39
this product will save people's lives. Well, I feel like this is a
2:19:46
moral hazard if we allow corporations to profit off off of forced consumption. So
2:19:54
it's fine if you want everybody to be forced to consume this product, but
2:20:00
corporations who produce it should make no profit on that. And they were they
2:20:03
were like, and this this was an alleged like they call themselves a communist
2:20:09
or a leftist. But as soon as I said that, they were like,
2:20:13
corporations should profit. They should, like, this is the perfect place
2:20:16
where corporations should profit. The corporations should profit on forced consumption, on government
2:20:22
forced consumption. Okay, that's not a leftist. That's not even a communist.
2:20:26
It is a fucking corporatist or corporatist, communist, whatever the hell you
2:20:28
want to call it. They do not believe in personal choice. Leftists are
2:20:35
status statists, don't believe in choice. Yeah, fine, we need to
2:20:37
call them. I'm just saying they're statists. Yeah, they're statists, like
2:20:41
state like communists are statists. Leftists are status The merger of corporations and government
2:20:48
is fascism. It's all the same. It's all leftism. That's what I'm
2:20:50
saying that's what I've been saying for years. Leftism is statism. These people
2:20:54
are statists. The state is good when it benefits them, when it supports
2:20:58
what they believe. This guy is okay with the state taking away our ability
2:21:03
to vote because he doesn't like insert politician. Yes, it doesn't even matter
2:21:09
who it is. Like, the removal of other people's choice, that's what
2:21:13
they want. Totally supports this individual totally supported massive corporate products or profits from
2:21:20
forced consumption. Now what the hell is he getting out of that? And
2:21:24
I'm like, the thing is that I have always been, like, I
2:21:26
guess, a classical liberal. When I see that, I'm like, yeah,
2:21:31
no, no, And at the very least people should have the protection
2:21:35
that if a corporation gets some kind of collusion with government and forced consumption is
2:21:39
the result that people that they should not make any profit off of that,
2:21:43
none whatsoever. In fact, they should lose money. We should lose money
2:21:48
for doing that. Yeah, the corporation, sure that the future isn't forced
2:21:54
consumption. Yeah, Well, that's the thing about corporation. Corporate product.
2:22:00
That's the thing about corporations. They are not a product of the free market.
2:22:01
Because they are they are in bed with the government. That's what makes
2:22:05
them corporations. The fact that we recognize a corporation as a as a an
2:22:09
individual like the entity itself is essentially the justification for the government to support it
2:22:18
like an individual like welfare you know, recipient. So that means it is
2:22:22
not a product of a free market. And that is why you can have
2:22:28
like, you know, corporations acting as businesses in the same way that the
2:22:33
that Ukraine created its own state church to replace the actual church because now it's
2:22:41
under the control of the state. All right, let me let me just
2:22:43
point this out. If you are for forced consumption, maybe you call it
2:22:52
a status whatever, that is abhorrent. Yeah, it is. You are
2:22:58
taking away like it isn't a warrant position to have. And this is this
2:23:01
is this is the real scandal of cabrutus. Like the the the scandal of
2:23:07
gamer Gate one you can find cracks in it, I guess, and really
2:23:11
insert you can't with this one because this is a scandal of force consumption and
2:23:16
it really it really illustrates the mentality of the people who are trying to force
2:23:22
consumption. And it's like we have gone from a consumer based society to a
2:23:28
forced consumption based society where we will be for they want what they want,
2:23:33
we'll be forced to consume. Mm hmm. And it's yeah, go ahead.
2:23:39
It is actually terrifying. M m all right, that's what they want.
2:23:43
It's it, okay, let's play some more. So it's not a
2:23:48
it's it's not a response to some great scandal. It's maybe, yes,
2:23:52
it's something you don't like, But as far as ethics, they're there completely
2:23:56
what's completely within their right to bring to bring people and do stuff like that
2:24:01
to their games. That's their decision and their call. It's actually such as
2:24:07
yeah, but it's our decision not to buy it. That's all this is.
2:24:09
Like you can say that till the cows come home. But first of
2:24:13
all, I don't have to buy it. That's my right. Second of
2:24:16
all, I can also complain about it. That's also my right freedom of
2:24:20
speech and property rights. That's all this comes down to. You have no
2:24:24
leg to stand out. I don't even know what you're just oh, this
2:24:26
is no scandal, Like they have a right to do that. Yeah,
2:24:28
we know. Nobody's saying they shouldn't have a right to do that. Nobody
2:24:31
nobody's saying, oh okay, let me just play some No no, no,
2:24:35
no, no no no. What I was apologizing because I was getting
2:24:37
yippie. Oh yeah, and like this guy is deceitful if this is intentional,
2:24:46
because this is a scandal, is that this is forced consumption. But
2:24:48
I was just thinking about this, like this is the vehicle they're using to
2:24:52
implement the structure of force consumption. They they give they give a like,
2:25:00
uh, what is the word? What is the right word? They handwave
2:25:07
is not the right word, but they give like lip service, lip service,
2:25:09
all of this, all of these moral causes. But they're just using
2:25:13
these moral causes as a vehicle to force consumption on people. That's what I'm
2:25:20
seeing. They're using these moral causes to also hijack gaming in order to continue
2:25:28
to I don't know, construct the new Man, the n U M A
2:25:33
N They're going to turn that. They literally want to turn gaming into a
2:25:39
platform to propagandize men. Yeah, put it in a different another context is
2:25:43
maybe a boy. But that's a conspiracy theory, Alison. They literally say
2:25:48
that, yes they do. But in another context, what else are they
2:25:52
are people starting like governments starting to force on people. They're trying to force
2:25:56
them to buy electric vehicles, they're trying to force them to like, you
2:26:03
know, limit their energy consumption for whatever reason. They're creating these fifteen minute
2:26:07
cities like or as if they're called fifteen minute cities. So this isn't just
2:26:13
happening like in some hobby. Like this is like if you see the pattern
2:26:18
there, you see it everywhere, and you realize that this isn't just happening
2:26:22
where it if it's happening where it doesn't seem to matter, it's definitely happening
2:26:26
where it really matters. You know, there are there are already fifteen minute
2:26:30
cities. They're called towns. If you want to get around in fifteen minutes,
2:26:35
move to one, Yeah you could, but see that's the Yeah,
2:26:39
I could get around almost everywhere in like five minutes. Mm hmm. Like
2:26:43
it's this is ridiculous. You got to have a cardilive here. Yeah,
2:26:48
Well, I mean we're lucky we don't. Well, when I live in
2:26:52
Chicago, I could walk everywhere and it didn't happen here. You sort of
2:26:56
need skis to get around. But you know, it's it's still like if
2:27:01
you want to live in a fifteen minute city, Go move to a town.
2:27:05
Yeah, Like, don't try to rework the entire world because of your
2:27:11
utopian vision. But I guess townspeople are give these people the ick they do
2:27:18
they do, that's right. Rural people are the ick because they believe in
2:27:24
demonic possession instead of mental health. I thought you knew that. All right,
2:27:28
let's play some more. Not a scandal, it's not scandalous. But
2:27:31
the thing you have to understand is this is our You're not in the same
2:27:37
place you were ten years ago with the original gamer date. This whole thing
2:27:41
of everybody being sick and tired of woke crap being imposed on entertainment media.
2:27:48
Everybody's are We're already talking about. There's an open dialogue. It's not controversial
2:27:54
to have this dialogue anymore. There is an open dialogue about how tired people
2:27:58
are of this stuff. You're not an underreper. You're not an unrepresented minority
2:28:05
that the media, that the media spirit lawyer is trying to force out of
2:28:09
the discussion altogether. You're part of the discussion. Now. You don't need
2:28:13
to act. You don't need to act like a bunch of jack booted thugs
2:28:18
to kicking doors open this time? What are you talking about? Jack booted
2:28:22
thugs? Like, okay, yeah, right, yeah, because we're basically
2:28:28
saying, you know, I don't want to pay Amazon Prime to watch a
2:28:33
shitty like fucking dollar store version of Lord of the Rings called The Rings of
2:28:39
Power, And here are all the reasons why it's basically a feminist like fever
2:28:43
dream and I'm just not interested in because that's not what j. R.
2:28:48
Tolkien and his son works so hard to protect. I don't want to give
2:28:52
that money. Why are you being a jack booted thug. I don't like
2:28:56
the Star Wars sequel trilogy. I think it's shit. Why are you being
2:28:58
a footed thug? I'm just not supporting it anymore, very very in Minecraft,
2:29:07
in Minecraft, in in roadblocks, in the real world, I only
2:29:13
wish to put a flower, a laurel of flowers upon his head. But
2:29:18
in Minecraft, my desires are I have something for that whole On a second,
2:29:26
do we have the Minecraft thing? Okay, let's not do that though.
2:29:33
Okay, let's play some more. You're part of the discussion, and
2:29:35
this discussion is already happening on much larger levels than the gaming industry. For
2:29:41
the record though that's true. We can talk about whatever we want, but
2:29:46
the fan base, the people who have criticisms, are being dragged over the
2:29:50
coals by the media. And we're not just being disagreed with respectfully, Like
2:29:56
they're calling us like racists and sexists and in cells and all the usual things.
2:30:01
And if we like to get you with that, yeah, if we
2:30:05
take issue with that, Like, are you saying this is like a level
2:30:09
playing field of good faith actors? Because I have I have a bridge in
2:30:16
Baltimore that I'd like to sell you. Did you see, like everybody who
2:30:20
has these attitudes like that, everybody who has these attitudes ultimately is supporting corporations
2:30:26
forcing consumption. That's the ultimately. And I'm like, I like, I
2:30:30
said, like, how is this? This is the connection? Guys like
2:30:33
that corporations want to force you to consume Like and again, corporations are really
2:30:37
government instruments at this point. They are. There's a huge collusion between the
2:30:43
two. But they want to force people to choose or do you have no
2:30:46
choice when it comes to their consumption? Okay, And this guy like he
2:30:54
is a stooge of that, absolutely, and he and they use this whole
2:30:58
narrative, this whole intersectional narrative to push this, and it's just it's like
2:31:03
really fascinating how it all lands on. Yeah, the right thing. Yeah,
2:31:09
corporations should have the right to force consumption on people. This is legitimate,
2:31:15
and they should have the right to essentially reg elections. Like what something,
2:31:20
something occurred to me, like this is this big niggling in the back
2:31:26
of my head that it probably is going to take a while to irrupt properly.
2:31:28
But this really is like it feels like the people who buy into this
2:31:35
again nothing to do with the actual the actual things that they say that therefore,
2:31:43
but it has to do with the idea of taking away other people's choice
2:31:48
because they don't they don't they suspect that other people's choice is wrong, or
2:31:54
there's just a thrill in being able to compel other people to do things,
2:31:58
like the oritarianism becomes addictive. Oh it is power is Power is a drug,
2:32:05
more of course, stronger than cocaine or heroin. Yeah, when you
2:32:09
align yourself with the power base, you get to enforce that power onto others,
2:32:15
which really belies the like they call themselves leftists, they call themselves liberal.
2:32:18
Well, you know, aren't. No, aren't isn't the left or
2:32:22
whatever whatever virtue is supposed to be, isn't it about liberty because this is
2:32:28
the exact opposite. You, Well, it's you live long enough to become
2:32:33
the villain. I suppose. No, It's like, I think it's okay
2:32:37
they would say it's liberty or freedom, but I think it's a feminine version
2:32:43
of it, where it's freedom from, not freedom from, but freedom to
2:32:48
things, which usually comes at the expense of somebody else. Yeah, it's
2:32:52
like, what is it when you ask feminists like what rights do you not
2:32:56
have that men have, and they will say things like the right to be
2:32:58
able to walk around in the middle of the night without fear. Right,
2:33:01
they want to be free from fear. But what they want is security,
2:33:05
which always comes at the expense of somebody else. So they're not really interested
2:33:09
in freedom at all, but they mistake it for that, and I think
2:33:13
that, Look, I don't think this is true of liberals. But again,
2:33:18
liberals are not leftists, and these things are conflated and liberals tend to
2:33:24
be They don't have a mechanism, no, no, no, liberals don't
2:33:31
have a mechanism to halt to they don't have a line to draw when it
2:33:35
comes to their tolerance because liberals, they're one flaw is that tolerance is the
2:33:43
highest virtue for them, So they tolerate everything because it's the thing that good
2:33:50
people do, and they tolerate it to their own self destruction because they don't
2:33:54
have a line unless they find a line. But when they do, then
2:33:58
they get accused of being conservative. So this is why for me, liberalism
2:34:03
and conservatism are not useful terms, because everybody has a line and do you
2:34:07
have to draw it somewhere? And the and leftists they delight in hanging around
2:34:15
or you know, associating themselves with liberals because liberals put up with them because
2:34:18
liberals think that tolerance is the highest virtue. And this brings in like it,
2:34:24
Carl Popper did a whole thing. He has like a bit about the
2:34:31
the paradox of tolerance. But go ahead, Alison, can you what Well,
2:34:35
what I was going to say was I think that there's ways to draw
2:34:41
these lines that are consistent both with Christian ethics and liberalism. I won't get
2:34:46
into that, but honestly, what I'm seeing now is basically authoritarian corporatism and
2:34:54
forced consumption and it has the delivering mechanism. The slag that this shit came
2:35:01
in on was intersectionality, but that's the payload. Yeah, and as soon
2:35:05
as they get all of that implemented, they're probably going to throw the shed
2:35:09
away the slight. Yeah. They want to manage democracy. Okay, they
2:35:16
want to manage democracy like literally hell divers too, manage democracy. All right,
2:35:20
let's plays incredible, the incredible, unbelievable negative backlash to Woke Snow White
2:35:28
as people are calling it, or woke snow White woke Little Mermaid. Disney
2:35:31
is losing massive amounts of money. One of the if not the biggest entertainment
2:35:37
companies in the world is losing massive amounts of money. And yeah, but
2:35:46
it's only because we are talking about it and acting on it. So like,
2:35:50
what do you like, do you want us to stop talking about it?
2:35:54
I don't understand what this argument is. Okay, that is uh An.
2:36:00
They're losing money and they're having to re evaluate whether or not they want
2:36:03
to do this one one, you know, woke infused project after another goes
2:36:09
belly up this and already people are openly having this discussion, openly having this
2:36:16
dialogue. Now here I have to jump in and say because inevitably someone's gonna
2:36:20
say, well, what's wrong with having more conclusion of people? Blah blah,
2:36:24
bah blah. Nothing. There is nothing wrong with diversity, a diverse
2:36:30
people, a diverse group of people appearing in a creative project, of course
2:36:35
not. Also, there's nothing wrong with a project that's all white people.
2:36:39
I'll say it, there's nothing wrong with a project that's all white heterosexual problem
2:36:45
with my own story, yeah, exactly like that. I wore stories like
2:36:50
they're gonna be almost all white heterosexual men are at least the sexuality won't be
2:36:56
very forefront. But the the thing is that, you know, we've had
2:37:05
diversity. Now you go back and look at stuff is put out in the
2:37:09
fifties, and people are so ignorant about the past. You just look at
2:37:15
movies in the fifties. You get more of a sense of the culture and
2:37:18
the lies that have been said about it. Like diversity was actually a almost
2:37:22
like a principle in the fifties. It really has been since, Like,
2:37:28
you know, Americans all went to war. They're lying to us about history.
2:37:31
That's why they're lying to us about history. Yeah, but they are
2:37:35
the idea that humans are are have dignity as a result to their relationship with
2:37:41
a God that recognizes them all as equal is the source of our beliefs about
2:37:46
diversity. It's a Christian principle. It's why Christians were the first to oppose
2:37:50
slavery, because slavery is antithetical to the idea that men, everybody, men
2:37:58
and women, black, white, every race is equal in God. Mh.
2:38:03
Right, people have been yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. That
2:38:07
is where it started, you know. And uh and even the statement the
2:38:13
meek shall inherit the earth. You can see the genesis of we are concerned
2:38:16
about minorities and the majorities effect on minorities. Right, there's all, this
2:38:22
is all. This is all a part of Christian ethics, right, and
2:38:30
it's it's just where was I going with this? It is something that is
2:38:35
embedded in our culture deeply. It's why this culture was the one that got
2:38:39
rid of slavery. Hm. Christian culture was the one that got rid of
2:38:43
slavery. I think people need to understand that Christian ethics are incompatible with slavery.
2:38:52
Yeah, it is, well, yeah, they they were the they
2:38:54
were the first ones to end it, all, right, let's continue.
2:38:58
There's nothing wrong with that. It all the problem, to be perfectly blunt
2:39:01
about it, is every time every time people turn on you know, they
2:39:07
turn on the new remake or the new adaptation, and oh look, all
2:39:13
of the redheaded white people have been replaced by black Evan are now being portrayed
2:39:18
by black actors, and oh look, the beautiful woman is now a plain
2:39:22
jane, heavy set woman, and so on and so forth every time,
2:39:26
and and oh look, a gay couple is engaged in a plot line that
2:39:31
would only make sense if a heterosexual couple was doing it. Read my commentary
2:39:37
on the novel Winter's Orbit for exam or watch my commentary on the novel Winter's
2:39:41
Orbit for an example of what I'm talking about there. But anyway, these
2:39:46
this, all of that becomes annoying. And the reason it becomes annoying is
2:39:52
because, to be perfectly frank about it, everyone, you know, everyone
2:39:58
that has a problem with this has a problem with it because they know that
2:40:01
the underlying messages, Hey, the people who made this think you're an asshole,
2:40:07
and this is being done to remind you that you're an asshole. And
2:40:11
people don't like that. And even if they're pausing it there. I don't
2:40:16
know if it's he's not saying anything objectionable. He's no, nothing objectionable,
2:40:20
except like the other thing is is that, well, the other thing about
2:40:26
the this, this this stuff being injected is that first of all, they
2:40:31
act like we're stupid, like we don't know they're doing this on purpose,
2:40:35
and that we're not you know what I mean, Like there is like a
2:40:37
there is like a serious condescension that's happening where they're like, here's a little
2:40:43
mermaid and she's black, and now it's like now you have to see that,
2:40:46
and you're like, well, we know that that's not correct. And
2:40:50
when people want an adaptation, if people it's not a good movie, no,
2:40:54
because the other problem is is that they're usually doing that to compensate for
2:41:00
poor writing or creative decisions in other areas, and this is their way of
2:41:05
shielding themselves from criticism. So if you say, well, this product is
2:41:11
bad because of these other reasons, they'll say, no, you're just racist,
2:41:16
because it's like the diversity injection is actually a landmine, and if you
2:41:22
try to address even if you say, look, it's got nothing to do
2:41:26
with that, they don't care about that they will use it against you.
2:41:28
They have done it. I've seen it countless times. There is no amount
2:41:31
of rationality you can bring to the table that will change their perspective because they
2:41:35
have their mindset on doing this. Another problem with this stuff, too,
2:41:39
is that a lot of the times these characters are self inserts. They are
2:41:45
put in there by narcissists that can only see themselves. So when they talk
2:41:48
about representation, they don't actually mean representation of a certain class of person.
2:41:54
They mean they want to put themselves in something. And this usually women.
2:41:58
And I don't know why that is, but it just so happens to be
2:42:01
the case. Kimbell Air has tons of self inserts. She is the CEO
2:42:05
of Sweet Baby, Inc. And if you look at the products that she's
2:42:07
involved with, they all have like female protagonists that look a lot like her,
2:42:13
have hair similar to hers, and it's really obvious, and they're not
2:42:16
well written. There's not a lot going on. So now we have this
2:42:20
strange like self insert Can you imagine if I like said, hey, hey
2:42:26
guys, I just made a whole bunch of like new drawings, and I
2:42:28
send them out and they're just pictures of me, Like do do people really
2:42:33
want that? I don't want that, like, but this is what they
2:42:37
do. So that's the issue is not just that this stuff is calling you
2:42:43
an asshole, although that's the defense if you try to like criticize it.
2:42:48
The issue is the pract isn't good. Yeah. And one of the other
2:42:52
reasons is because they're replacing meritocracy, in which you recognize audience input as the
2:42:58
determinator, determinate determination of whether or not what you're doing is good. I
2:43:03
mean, you can say this is not my audience, that's fine, but
2:43:05
somebody has to be your audience, and the sales number show that what you're
2:43:09
putting out is you don't have an audience for it. But regardless, they
2:43:13
changed the merit the the the metric from finding an audience and making something that
2:43:22
that audience is enjoyable by the audience. That is, you know, like
2:43:28
you find like it's because again, you know, there are some artists that
2:43:31
don't have a large audience, but they're still constructing something with merit because it's
2:43:37
authentic. It's it's like, it's got a it has a strong voice,
2:43:41
whatever, and it finds its audience. That's the other thing. If you
2:43:46
are if you are a niche. You allow yourself to find your audience.
2:43:48
You don't demand people be your audience, right, you let it, let
2:43:52
it find its audience. Yes, you're right, Like, well, that's
2:43:56
the thing. They they want to create markets. You can't create markets.
2:44:00
You have to respond to markets or you know, I mean sometimes there's sometimes,
2:44:05
Yes, if you get really lucky, you could like find that there
2:44:09
you make something and everyone's drawn to it. Well, a lot of the
2:44:11
time, you can't say I'm going to make this thing and you have to
2:44:13
buy it. Yeah, they did. Like again that's forced consumption. But
2:44:16
my point is that sometimes you have art that doesn't find its market until the
2:44:20
artist is dead. Like yeah, but you can't. And but but my
2:44:26
point is that he was expressing, you know, something fundamental inside himself.
2:44:33
He's authentic to his experience or something. But and then and he eventually found
2:44:37
his market, unfortunately not before he went nuts. But well yeah, but
2:44:43
he was recognized well after he died. This this is what they're trying to
2:44:48
do, is they're replacing the merit of being authentic, of telling something that
2:44:56
that evokes the human truth. They're replacing the or even just something that people
2:45:01
enjoy, right, they're replacing that that metric with intersectionality. And when you
2:45:09
replace that metric with intersectionality, you produce mostly crap. Yet you know,
2:45:16
it's just it's just the way it is and uh. And then then they
2:45:24
defend the crap by by what you're saying, you're an asshole. If you
2:45:26
don't like it, it's because you you dislike Uh. But here's the thing,
2:45:30
Like, the intersectionality narrative also makes poor characters because it doesn't have that
2:45:37
kind of interest in the inner life of characters. That's what fascinates people about
2:45:43
stories. You know, you can have stories about heroic deeds and all this
2:45:48
other stuff. But for the most part, a modern audience, at least
2:45:52
a modern audience in the West, wants to know what makes people tick inside
2:45:58
them. They want to know the causal factors inside a person. It's like,
2:46:03
it's like the difference between older forms of storytelling in the West other forms
2:46:11
of storytelling around the world. The Western focus, and I'm not saying is
2:46:15
bad or good. The Western focus is on causal agents inside the person.
2:46:20
We're fascinated by that. We want to know how people tick. And I'm
2:46:22
sure that's true in other places. It's just presented differently. Okay, this
2:46:28
is something that is antithetical to intersectionality, because intersectionality says your primary characteristic is
2:46:37
your appearance, basically what you well, yeah, sure, you're well,
2:46:41
your your immutable characteristics, you know, or sexual orientation. They ignore that
2:46:52
internal causal, you know, when I'm When we've been watching older movies,
2:46:56
it's fascinating to see how well older storytellers understood how people work. Mm hmmm.
2:47:07
Like it. They make people want they people want a human experience.
2:47:11
And the funny thing is is that today, when you get a really good
2:47:18
product, it usually does feature a heterosexual white man because there is no like.
2:47:24
They don't. They don't consider them to be special, so they just
2:47:28
have to write them as human and they end up being better. I mean
2:47:31
I have to they do. They end up being better characters because they they
2:47:37
You don't. You can't do anything with the intersectionality unless they make them into
2:47:39
two dimensional you know, villains of some kind that represent the characters they can
2:47:46
be in kernel causation to male characters they are because of things that they choose,
2:47:54
as opposed to diversity characters which only ever respond to the actions of male
2:48:01
characters. Mm hmmm. Like they are the way they are because some male
2:48:05
characters, some heterosexual, white male character, chose that for them at some
2:48:09
point in their past. Have you not noticed that, Like that's the framework.
2:48:13
Yeah, for sure, let me play these thirty seconds. That's not
2:48:16
your intention. That's what's coming across. And so that's that's the reality of
2:48:22
where we're at now. But the thing is there is there anything wrong with
2:48:28
having gay characters, having you know, having gay characters, having heavily involved
2:48:33
female characters, having black actors on screen, and everything else. No,
2:48:37
nothing wrong with that at all. The problem is when they are The problem
2:48:41
is when people, activist creatives use these minorities to smack people in the face.
2:48:50
I think that was the end of that section. So I'm gonna jump
2:48:52
ahead because he talks about Soul and basically talks about how it's a really good
2:48:56
movie and it's a good example of how to do this right. Didn't like
2:49:00
Soul, Like I said, do you remember that movie I was in,
2:49:03
the Pixar one about the guy who he goes? Yeah, I remember.
2:49:07
I thought it was really planned, Like I lost interest about five minutes in
2:49:11
because I had a sense where it's going. Yeah, it was just wasn't.
2:49:15
It was very forgettable and again nothing to do with the race. It
2:49:18
just wasn't. I didn't even think of it as a black movie, honesty,
2:49:22
because it was about ghosts, so I you know, I didn't think
2:49:24
of it that way. But yeah, I didn't think it was all that
2:49:26
great. Did it do well? Probably? I mean it was Pixar,
2:49:30
and like at the time, Pixar could do no wrong. But I didn't
2:49:33
even care for it, Like I said, I just I didn't get a
2:49:37
sense of a like a strong sense of you know what it was. I
2:49:41
didn't really get a strong sense that the character was being challenged. Yeah,
2:49:46
it didn't really. It didn't really stick with me. You know, you
2:49:48
can usually tell like if if a movie is good, even if it's a
2:49:54
children's Okay, here's what it is, Okay, I got I got it.
2:49:56
Okay. Just let me say when I was talking before about that book,
2:50:01
and I incidentally I sent the title of the book that it was a
2:50:05
book on writing. Somebody asked me in our discord, which is at feed
2:50:09
the bad or Badgered Nation dot online, if you guys want to take part,
2:50:13
but you have to get a subscription. Someone asked me what book it
2:50:16
was, So I'm going to tell you what the book was in my little
2:50:18
Ask Alison channel. The book is Elements of fiction writing scene in the structure.
2:50:24
But what I wanted to say is that what hooks people is when you
2:50:30
present a character and then you show that character experiencing something that fundamentally breaks their
2:50:39
sense of identity. So whatever they base their sense of self worth on,
2:50:45
you challenge that and you hit it hard, right, and then that makes
2:50:48
people stand up and take notice. And you can do that with white men,
2:50:54
white head or sexual men, because they're not supposed to take an identity
2:50:58
from their appearance. But anybody else in the intersectional in the intersectional framework,
2:51:05
takes an identity from how they appear. So you can't do that unless you
2:51:11
turn them in right, because they can't. You can't challenge them exactly,
2:51:13
So you can't challenge them. That's why they're that's why they're stuck being uninteresting
2:51:18
because alter identity descriptors are the most important aspect and it's supposed to be untouched,
2:51:26
and it's shallow. It's the most shallow identity descriptors you could possibly ask
2:51:31
for. It's just, oh, my skin color is this, Oh my
2:51:35
sexuality is this? Oh my gender is this? Oh my ethnicity is this?
2:51:39
Oh my religion. It's all well, I mean, religion actually might
2:51:43
an ethnicity we might actually get something interesting out of. But all the rest
2:51:46
of it shallow, shallow, And how do you challenge that identity? And
2:51:50
that is their ultimate identity. They can't identify as the best secretary because their
2:51:56
ultimate identify identity is intersectional slot number eight one six B. You know,
2:52:05
intersectional slot number thh x three eighty, you know, intersectional slot this.
2:52:11
That's their identity. So you can't challenge that because it's unchallengeable. The nature
2:52:16
of intersectionality is that your identity cannot be challenged, right that it exists and
2:52:20
it is immutable, And so how do you construct a decent story from that?
2:52:26
The answer is you don't. So it's all shit. Mm hmm,
2:52:30
okay, let's go. But the last and not least, the reason you
2:52:35
don't need to be you don't need it to be gamer Gate two is because
2:52:37
whether you believed in Gamergate or not, gamer Gate is a fundamentally toxic dead
2:52:45
brand. I used to for about ten years of my life. I wrote
2:52:50
corporate ad copy and worked in brand marketing, and you know all of the
2:52:56
fine you know, the the descriptive fine print read on advertisements and things like
2:53:01
that. That was the kind of thing I wrote, ghost wrote it freelance.
2:53:05
And if I was if if my team and the team I was a
2:53:09
part of an eye, the consult consultancy team I was a part of,
2:53:11
had been brought in on this, we would never say call it gamer Gate.
2:53:18
Gamer Gate is a toxic brand. You cannot it's a dead brand and
2:53:22
it's a toxic brand. You cannot resurrect this brand. But but it's here,
2:53:31
and it's not a brand per se. It's corporal speak. I know.
2:53:37
Well, he is a he used to write copy for corporation, so
2:53:41
that explains it. But yeah, I mean, what do you mean by
2:53:45
toxic? Is he just going to call it toxic and not like explain how?
2:53:50
And who gives a shit? Like why do like, who are the
2:53:52
people calling Gamergate toxic? Melissa Merconte, the the sex worker turned fucking unless
2:54:00
for Kotaku, Why do Why do I fucking care what she thinks? Like
2:54:03
why does anybody care? That's where it starts. Guys, like you have
2:54:07
to stop giving a fuck what these people think. These people hate you.
2:54:09
If they hate you, why do you why do you want to appeal to
2:54:11
them? You just you don't have to hate them back. But you can
2:54:16
just be like, fuck off. You know, my money, my choice,
2:54:20
remember that. I mean, it's just in a genuine direction. It's
2:54:26
yeah, it's so, I mean, like, I don't know what to
2:54:28
do with this. It's toxic. Dudes, do you want to be seen
2:54:31
as toxic? I already am. It's in the fucking American Psychological Associations decided
2:54:37
that I'm toxic. Why Why do I give a fuck what you think?
2:54:41
Guy in your bedroom or what is that? Like a broom closet? Like
2:54:43
what? What? Like? I don't give a fuck you you can't.
2:54:48
You can't do it. It's it's dead. You need to call it something
2:54:50
else. It would be like calling it the the uh you know, a
2:54:54
call a Resurrecting gamer Gate as a brand would be like saying, we're gonna
2:54:58
have a brand that's called blood leaching, fholidamide, lobotomy, like it's these
2:55:03
are words want to bring into any anything that's going to inspire. Yeah,
2:55:11
because if you don't call it gamer gate, they might listen to you.
2:55:13
If you rebrand it, then maybe the journalists and the uh and the consulting
2:55:20
firms and all that. No, No, he didn't call it gamer gay.
2:55:22
He just said sweet Baby Inc Detected that was his space. We didn't
2:55:26
call it gamer gay until after that blew up. Yeah, and that was
2:55:31
only because the gamer gators who had been through this rodeo before started to stand
2:55:37
up for him. So it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter if you're
2:55:41
like, honestly, I think that media, mainstream media probably including Daily Wire
2:55:48
and all of the like the mainstream write outlets. I think it's all toxic.
2:55:52
Does my attitude count? Like if I call the rest of the world
2:55:56
toxic, does that mean the rest of the world has a brand problem?
2:56:00
You know what this reminds me of, Alison, This reminds me of this
2:56:03
is how stupid it is. By the way, back when we started doing
2:56:07
this, there were people in that we're sort of doing this in terms of
2:56:13
like doing the men's rights content on YouTube. There were people who agreed with
2:56:16
us on like everything, but wanted us to change our branding and not call
2:56:24
ourselves MRAs because they said that the label MRA is essentially poisoned and that we
2:56:31
should like call it something else. And that was a suggestion that was happening
2:56:35
back then from people like Carl Benjamin for example, and Mike R Mike doctor
2:56:43
Renrickham. He made a video about it, and I mean the general consensus
2:56:48
was that being a men's rights advocate is not an identity. It is an
2:56:54
action. It is a verb that you define by our action, and you
2:57:01
can call it whatever you want, Like I said, like men's rights activists,
2:57:05
it doesn't matter what we call ourselves. I prefer men's rights advocate only
2:57:09
because I think it's more precise, not because I fear the term men's rights
2:57:13
activist. But this is the same exact argument. Do the thing you're doing,
2:57:16
just don't call it gamor gay two because that has a stink on it.
2:57:20
Well why does it have a stink on it? Well, because the
2:57:22
journalists put a stink on it. So if we come up with something new,
2:57:26
could the journalists put a stink on that? Well, yes, of
2:57:28
course they could, right, I mean they already do that. Like,
2:57:31
what is the term djure to refer to us? Now, it's not men's
2:57:37
rights activist, although sometimes that gets used. What is it instead, Well,
2:57:41
it's the MANI sphere, it's in cells, it's Andrew Tait people,
2:57:46
it's whatever, right, it's the the red pill, pros whatever it is,
2:57:52
and everyone uses it and they do it as a kind of pejorative and
2:57:58
there's nothing we can do about it except just you know, badger on as
2:58:03
we've been doing, right, because there's no point in dealing with that.
2:58:07
Like, I don't I don't fucking care about branding, and anybody worth it,
2:58:13
honestly, anybody worth their salt. I mean, I do some branding
2:58:16
for the show, and that's why we there's cartoon avatars. But anybody worth
2:58:18
their salt should know that your branding is not as important as your actions.
2:58:26
Like, if you care about the truth, then you will seek the truth,
2:58:31
and if you seek the truth in earnest, then you will find that
2:58:33
we are not what the media says we are. But only people willing to
2:58:37
do that work are gonna, you know, come to those conclusions. So
2:58:43
go ahead, Alison, Okay, Well, all right, a couple of
2:58:46
things. A toxic brand is better than no brand, and that's really what
2:58:50
this comes down to. The people who constantly supposedly frame all of these brands
2:58:56
as toxic wants you to abandon a clear identifier, right, because if you
2:59:03
have a clear identifier, people can find you. If you are constantly trying
2:59:09
to play the game of oh well this this, this name is now toxic
2:59:16
because my enemy has said, so I better find a new name, you
2:59:20
essentially enter. You essentially engage in entropy, the destruction of your own identifiability.
2:59:26
So it's ridiculous. Don't even play the game. You can't want,
2:59:30
you cannot win. All you can do is say, I am what I
2:59:33
am. We seek truth, Let the chips fall where they may. This
2:59:37
is who I am, This is what I represent. Now, what I
2:59:41
wanted to say is, yeah, there are other brands throughout history that we're
2:59:43
considered toxic. For example, the Roman Empire considered Christianity to be toxic.
2:59:50
How'd that go for you? You know, I'm a Romabu, like I
2:59:54
love the Roman Empire, and Rome eventually was conquered by christian Any which was
3:00:00
interesting. But you know, it's like things that are considered toxic are often
3:00:07
not and are in fact reactions to something that is toxic. This is gamor
3:00:16
Gate considered toxic. It is a reaction to forced consumption. Okay, yeah,
3:00:22
it is a reaction to force consumption, which is profoundly toxic. And
3:00:26
incidentally, you who thinks that you should sacrifice democracy because there's a politician you
3:00:33
don't like, you are toxic. Oh? Absolutely, I think that's way
3:00:39
more toxic than you know. Okay, let's finish inspire confidence or inspire legitimacy
3:00:43
or anything like that. So whether you believed in Gamergate or not, it's
3:00:48
a point and bringing it up is only going to make you look worse.
3:00:54
What Like he's saying it's toxic to who people who want like, well,
3:01:01
no, only the people who told it would be you would be. You
3:01:03
would be somebody who'd be like, okay, the the the I don't know,
3:01:09
the the brands down the street in uh in, Oh, what's a
3:01:16
German city, I'm blanking, I don't know Germanville. There, they seem
3:01:20
to be harboring somebody in their attic, and you would be like that's toxic.
3:01:26
Yeah, that's toxic. Like you would be a jack boot in Germany.
3:01:31
Mm hmm he is, yeah, like like literally, like you you
3:01:35
would be the person who'd be like, oh yeah, well, you know,
3:01:39
the Jews, the the the the orange people, they're bad. So
3:01:43
everything that we do to get their influence out of our society is good.
3:01:50
And you know why you'd be a jack boot because fascism starts with identifying an
3:01:54
enemy. I don't even see Biden as the enemy. I don't know if
3:02:01
he's conscious enough to be an enemy of anyone, honestly. But but you
3:02:07
know, it's like, this is this is the problem. And I know
3:02:11
you're sighing because you're like, oh, but we need You know, I'm
3:02:13
too tolerant, but I know that that the discourse stops when we identify enemies
3:02:22
rather than behaviors. Yeah, well yeah, obviously, but think about it
3:02:31
this way. You know, the the so called the Temple of Satan or
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the Satanic Temple made a lot of a lot of noise recently by trying to
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say that abortion access should be protected because they have a sacred ritual called the
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uh it's like the Satanic abortion ritual or something like that, and so they
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were trying to get secure legal access to abortion on the basis of that.
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It's like, dude, no, no, you're not helping. You're not
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helping. I don't think you understand that. Okay, what if they really
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believe it? If the Church of Satanism. The Church of Satanism is,
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as far as I know, ironic, So they're essentially saying that are our
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religious freedom requires the recognition of abortion. And honestly, if they were saying
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that and they were like, yeah, just like circumcision like that, that
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actually would be pretty damn based in my opinion. You mean, like banning
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circumcision. No, like saying I should have the ultimate right to choose what
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happens to my child's body because I am a religious group. Oh I see,
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yeah, but they're but they don't care about circumcision because the Church of
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satan Is is largely feminist. I mean they use it as a tool that
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they serve women. Ultimately, Yeah, fair enough. So it because they
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think they're just giving it to the Christians by existing. But that's like the
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whole that's the premise of the whole thing. Like, I mean, I
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know they think of themselves as ironic, but they're like on ironically doing the
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work of Satan. I mean, they don't but they don't believe in Satan,
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so to them, it's not happening. So it's weird because it's you
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know, I don't know. I don't want to get too metaphysical here,
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but they are in fact, let's let's finish it. So you know,
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the Church of Satan is probably like, yeah, I actually have read Anton
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LaVey's book mm hmm, and a while back, like, I was never
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really a Satanist, although I was interested in learning about like occult stuff,
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not necessarily because I believed it, but just because I found religious practice is
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fascinating. And his book is pretty pretty milk toast, like yeah, it's
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it's like do what thou w built? Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
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And then he wills things like he's like I want you to die in
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minecraft, and I'm like, okay, you're pretty I don't think that anybody
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should necessarily find him that threatening. Maybe they are doing the work of Satan.
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I think they're just doing the work of cringe myself. But whatever essentially
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to do, Okay, let me just pay the rest. You know,
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you already have the right wing that's anti abortion already, the right wing that's
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anti abortion is already calling this satanic, and you're gonna show up and validate
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what they're saying. No, your brand is too toxic. Stay away.
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That's like the end of the things. A Trump like pro choice to a
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certain degree. He believes in I mean, ultimately he believes in states rights.
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And that was like the most the most recent thing he said I was
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considered really controversial. He's like, well, I'm gonna leave it to the
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state. He just look the thing about Roe v. Wade, and like,
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this is just not debatable. This is just a fact. It was
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bad law. It should never have existed. Even the woman Row herself was
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like, yeah, that was like she lied about like the rape that caused
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her to get pregnant. That was the premise for the whole Roll Vweight thing.
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She like it was it was based on a false allegation to begin with.
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It was bad law, and it finally was overturned because it was bad
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law. But after that, Trump didn't say I'm banning abortion everywhere. He
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said, We're going to leave it to the states. That's what they did,
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or that's what he wanted for it. So well that the latest controversy
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apparently he has distanced himself from the ban on late term abortions. Wow Trump,
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Yeah, oh no, what a fascist? God? Yeah, of
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course, seriously, he's more pro choice than I am. All right,
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well, how does this guy square that that particular circle. Like he's the
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Orange man. He doesn't care. He just hates it as anti abortion as
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the average right wing. Okay, you know what he's asked. You're asking
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people to be more reasonable than they are expect too much. That's it,
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like or whoever Republican man bad it doesn't like. Honestly, it could have
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been anybody else. It could have been as well. In particular, if
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it was someone who wasn't a neo khn establishment rhino type, he would have
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done the same. I think, I don't because the media would have sent
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their dogs after him. And then this guy who you know, critical of
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gamers gamer journalism is not critical of mainstream journalism because those things are so different.
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So okay, so we need to finish this up because I've got three
3:07:37
songs to get through and we're not doing it. Well, that's it.
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That's the end of this video. So shall we gonna do those video those
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songs? Then that's what this ends on. Well yeah, I mean,
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that's what great end here. So if you want to have any real change,
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you want to make any real impact here, focus on be it focused
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on making thoughtful, intelligent arguments, going patiently and slowly and carefully and not
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just barreling crazy going into the being a bull in a china shop. Okay,
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so the other side needs to do this, but you can say things
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like I would demolish democracy to prevent Trump. Yeah, and I think people
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should be there, women should be able to kill their babies out of the
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loom. Like none of that is nuanced. He's so smart and he's smarter
3:08:24
to you because autism, So you know, yeah, now I get it
3:08:28
both ways, because I've now had somebody say that she's smarter to me because
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I'm autistic, and h I hyper focus on something. In this case,
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I hyper focus on the fact that saying men are women's enemies is going to
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eventually deteriorate into misanthrope and misanthropy and this kind of crap like everything that we
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see. Mm hmm. Yeah. But only only people who live in a
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country, and in a country that is as free and as abundant and as
3:09:05
safe as has ever been in all of human history could have these kinds of
3:09:11
criticism. Only somebody who hasn't that good, so good like men are responsible
3:09:18
for this society. Lowest rate of different mortality, infant mortality, maternal mortality,
3:09:28
least rate of a nutritional deficiency. Women can walk the streets even though
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they're still freaking afraid, you know, all of this stuff, and men
3:09:39
still hate women and men are women's enemy. Like this is that that entire
3:09:45
narrative is repulsive, Like every aspect of it is should repulse people on a
3:09:52
fundamental level. When someone beaks off about men being women's enemies, you should
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just be like, you make can me vomit a little? With what your
3:10:01
statement? Like? We need to get to that point. It needs to
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be repulsive. It needs to be as repulsive as somebody going to a brunch
3:10:09
and saying, you know, I think it's the Jews. People will have
3:10:18
a reaction to that, even people who would be like man, maybe even
3:10:20
noticers would probably have a reaction to that being said bald face in public,
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you know. And that's where we should go, you know, that's where
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we should be. We should actually extend the protections of Christian morality. You
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know, those protections that came that that were extended to every out group except
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men. We should expend that to men. Let's think about that. It's
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actually repulsive to call them the enemy of good? All right, Well,
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that's the end of the video. Yeah, I forget it. Let's you
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can finish the video. But I got to go onto the other thing.
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You know that, right, I mean I could play the rest of it.
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Yeah, this guy has added nothing. Just play the rest of it.
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I won't be I'll play it. Just go get set up. This
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has been going for you, Yes, Alison, this has been going for
3:11:13
three and a half hours. Just focus on contributing in a thoughtful and proactive
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way, and you know, for God's sake, I would extend to you
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the same advice that I've extended. I've extended countless times to countless times to
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so called woke activists who think that they're not being properly represented in games.
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If you don't like what the game companies are making, start making your own.
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Well he stammed his hand on the table, so you know he's right,
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very serious. Yeah, like that's what people are doing.