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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk | Championship Weekend comparing to the CrossFit Season · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:27
  welcome to sunday sunday
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  sunday beat down by the san
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  francisco forty-niners as
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  you can see my co-host
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  carolyn privo is rubbing it
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  in my face uh pretty hard
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  that there's her
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  forty-niners beat my
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  chicago bears um so yeah
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  I didn't get to see it so
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  you'll have to I mean I
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  could see I was following
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  the score like through my
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  google but that's it like I
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  couldn't watch it well I
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  think like the most
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  disappointing thing was we
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  fire a coach after the
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  lions debacle on
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  thanksgiving you're
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  expecting like like an
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  energy jump right yeah
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  And we got the exact opposite.
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  We've been playing with
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  energy and just losing at
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  the end of games because of
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  stupid coaching.
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  Then we show up to in San
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  Francisco and like we
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  didn't even want to play.
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  And I say we in the stupid way.
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  I hate I'm not really a we.
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  They played a terrible game.
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  So we'll move on from that.
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  We'll move on real fast.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But my other team,
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  my Penn State Nittany Lions,
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  also lost this weekend in
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  the Big Ten Championship game.
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  But Oregon's good.
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  But they're in the playoffs.
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  And for the first time this year,
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  I feel like they can hang.
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  Who's their matchup?
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  So they have SMU to start.
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  And if they win, then Boise State.
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  They actually have a really good draw.
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  Did Alabama, I didn't look at who made it.
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  Did Alabama end up making it?
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  They did not.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like SMU made it over Alabama.
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  Alabama was the first one out.
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  Miami was the second one out.
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  Okay.
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  Alabama had like three losses though.
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  So not surprising.
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  But I think like every sports show I was,
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  I had to run some errands today.
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  So I was listening on the
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  radio and every sports shows,
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  like this is the last year,
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  the automatic bids for the
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  conference winners.
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  Okay.
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  Or automatic buys buys
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  because the fact that, um,
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  they got buys in the first
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  round when they're the
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  ninth and eleventh ranked teams, just,
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  just isn't fair.
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  Yeah.
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  Fair enough.
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  Yeah.
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  Especially with them
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  expanding the playoffs.
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  Like,
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  I just don't think they need that
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  anymore.
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  Right, right.
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  Yes, win the conference, you get in.
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  But, you know,
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  Clemson wasn't even supposed
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  to be here and kind of went
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  on a late run this season,
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  beat SMU in the ACC
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  championship to then get their spot.
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  So, yeah.
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  So excited about that.
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  We have, what,
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  the weekend before Christmas, right?
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  Uh, we have playoff games Friday night,
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  Saturday, all day.
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  So that'd be fun.
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  And then it goes for four
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  weeks to crown the national champ.
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  And if,
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  and if the playoffs or anything
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  like the conference
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  championship games were,
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  that was so much fun on Saturday,
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  every game was close over time,
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  driving to win last second field goal,
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  like great games.
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  I wish Colorado didn't lose
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  a few weeks ago and then
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  they ruined their chances.
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  I'm a big coach prime fan.
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  Yeah.
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  I, I find myself rooting for him too.
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  Um,
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  but it's going to be cool when Travis
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  Hunter wins that Heisman.
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  Do you think he will?
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  Yeah,
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  I think he's the leader in the
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  clubhouse for sure.
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  Um,
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  I want to ask Jamie this
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  because before we get off
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  the football stuff, Thursday night,
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  her lions played the Packers.
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  Yeah.
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  Came down to,
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  they could have kicked a field goal.
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  Yeah.
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  And given the ball back to
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  the Packers with some time on the clock.
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  Right.
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  They chose to go for it on
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  fourth down to end the game.
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  Yeah.
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  When they made that decision,
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  what were your thoughts before they,
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  before they snapped the ball?
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  Well, I guess I was okay with that one.
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  I was not okay with the earlier call.
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  Like,
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  I think we should have punted it and
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  not gone for it when we
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  gave it to them on their,
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  on their thirty.
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  Like, I didn't like that call.
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  But, I mean, I say that, but, like,
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  Campbell makes those calls.
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  That is Campbell.
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  And, like, that's why we're here,
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  where we're at.
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  So, we, I mean,
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  we as fans need to just
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  stop questioning him.
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  Like, it is what it is.
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  He's aggressive.
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  He is,
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  and the team reality is behind that.
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  Like, so...
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  you you are frustrated in
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  the moment you're like why
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  why but it's it seems to
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  work out you know in one of
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  these times it won't and
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  people are gonna call for
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  his head but like it's just
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  that's a lot of trust in
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  his players like he's
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  basically saying take the
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  ball you like I trust you
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  you go and do your you know
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  do you think it's an all or
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  nothing year for them
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  because they're going to
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  lose both of their coordinators I know
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  I mean, I do.
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  I, I know that's it's sad.
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  They're both going to become
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  head coaches next year.
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  Yeah.
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  And is, is, do they,
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  is it a all in year where they like,
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  they've got to win it this year?
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  I kind of think so.
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  I mean, not only will you lose them,
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  like you're probably going
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  to lose some players too.
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  I mean, we're,
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  and we're dealing with
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  injuries now that like,
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  there's just always something that you.
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  But some of the defensive
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  players are coming back for the playoffs.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a good thing.
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  I thought San Francisco last year,
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  that was their year they
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  were needing to go all in.
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  They're still looking good.
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  No.
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  They have to win the
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  division or they're not getting in.
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  Seattle's playing lights out.
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  It's crazy.
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  The NFL's crazy.
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  The Eagles almost lost to
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  the Panthers today.
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  And that would have almost
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  sewed it up for Detroit to
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  get home for you.
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  Yeah.
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  The Bills lost by two.
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  That game was insane.
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  That game was insane.
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  Forty-four to forty-two or something?
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  Yeah.
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  Every time you look,
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  someone was breaking for a touchdown.
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  I know.
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  What did they say?
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  It was the highest scoring game?
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  I think so.
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  and then the Penn State Oregon game
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  was the highest Big Ten
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  championship scoring game ever.
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  Like, that was the same way.
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  It's crazy.
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  One more thing before we get
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  into the CrossFit stuff,
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  and that is last week,
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  Carolyn mentioned Cobra Kai
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  and finishing up all the
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  available episodes,
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  and I kind of slowed my
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  roll with it because I felt
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  like it was kind of jumping the shark.
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  And then when I got to, like,
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  I watched the very next episode,
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  and it sucked me right back in.
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  And then I binged the rest
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  of them this week.
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  Are you all done now too?
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  I am.
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  And there's only five more
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  ever going to happen.
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  And they start in January,
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  I think maybe next year somewhere.
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  But anyway, what a freaking cliffhanger.
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  And I won't spoil it for anybody,
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  but it was,
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  When this started six years
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  ago or whatever,
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  it was like Karate Kid's
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  always been kind of a kid's show, right?
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  Like as a kid, I watched it.
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  Yeah, I grew up watching it.
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  Right.
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  And when Cobra Kai first started,
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  it was very much in that vein.
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  It has an edge now that it
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  never had in the past.
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  I just love it.
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  think it's great and I will
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  say the kids have gotten so
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  much better at the martial
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  arts that the fight scenes
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  are insane the jumps that
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  they're making like
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  literally jumping spinning
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  and the athleticism of the
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  kids because they've been
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  working at this for six
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  years yeah like they've
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  gotten so much better so
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  thank you for getting me
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  pushed back into it now I'm
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  ready for the last five
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  I need Lex to catch back up.
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  She kind of,
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  I think she's like two or
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  three seasons now behind.
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  Oh man.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and there,
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  there's a scene in this one
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  where one of the main
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  characters suffers a loss and it,
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  it shook me like it shook.
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  Like I was crying watching that episode.
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  It was that good.
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  You should pull this up.
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  Let's watch it.
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  Well, we'll get dinged for that.
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  But quick TV talk mention.
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  One of Jamie and I's
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  favorite shows is Reacher.
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  New season trailer is out.
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  It was in doubt because the
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  production company went bankrupt,
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  but they did get bought out
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  and Reacher was retained.
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  And so it is going to have a third season.
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  I'll go watch that trailer after this.
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  Yeah, it's a good show, too.
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  Good show.
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  And I'm still banging
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  through Landman and Lioness together.
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  Is Lioness good?
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  It's Taylor Sheridan,
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  so it's a guy who did
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  Yellowstone and all that stuff,
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  just like Landman.
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  It's dark,
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  but it is a very
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  female-empowering... It is
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  about a female...
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  organization within the CIA.
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  Okay.
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  That they are trained for a
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  specific thing.
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  And,
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  but and what they have to go through
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  to get to that point,
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  and to be trusted and to be
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  all of that stuff.
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  Okay.
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  But, but it gets dark.
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  I mean,
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  it's about infiltrating
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  organizations around the world.
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  Yeah, it's, it's crazy.
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  We started watching The Madness.
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  So Julie and I saw it
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  because it takes place in Pennsylvania,
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  which is where we're from.
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  Yeah, uh-huh.
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  And so we looked at it and we're like,
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  should we start this one?
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  Start it.
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  Was it good?
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  We're like,
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  I think we watched the first
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  three episodes.
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  So yeah, I mean, I'm super confused.
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  So I don't know.
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  It's either going to wind up
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  awful or great.
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  Well, what's crazy is in the trailer,
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  the woods they're in in the
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  trailer look just like my backyard.
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  Yeah.
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  Because my backyard goes
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  like down a little slope
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  and then it's woods behind
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  where my parents, where I grew up.
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  Those woods look identical
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  to where I grew up.
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  So they made it look really good.
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  Yeah.
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  Lynn says Zoe Zaldana in
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  Lioness is amazing.
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  I like her.
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  Yeah.
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  this is a good it's afghan
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  women's stuff during the
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  war oh okay season two does
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  not take place though in
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  the middle east and I don't
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  know if kenneth has got to
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  that point um it is more
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  home it's taking place here
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  gotcha so um so with that
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  we can get into the crossfit stuff um
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  We had the Dubai Fitness
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  Championships in Dubai.
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  How much...
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  Lex says they're watching
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  Madness too looks like I'm
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  going to have to get on
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  that boat when she says we
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  she doesn't include me
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  she's her and her parents
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  are watching it it is
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  confusing Lex like I said I
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  feel like it's going to
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  either be awesome like
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  there's going to be some
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  revelation something that
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  makes sense and it's going
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  to be good or it's going to
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  be end up being like
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  terrible but I mean I'm
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  intrigued right now that's
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  her excuse for not watching
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  the last three seasons of Cobra Kai
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  All right, so Dubai happened this weekend.
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  I know someone of you put
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  some comments into our rundown.
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  So what I'll say is I tuned
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  in to the first couple days
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  to the coverage,
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  and my belief is that Brian
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  did the coverage on the
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  first day and the first
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  event of the second day
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  because it was very
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  one-camera-ish coverage.
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  With them talking.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  What stunk about that,
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  and I don't want to dog
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  anybody for streaming
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  because in years past,
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  we never got day one.
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  Right.
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  Anything.
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  And anything is better than nothing.
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  And I think they did a
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  Herculean effort to try.
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  But when the event has
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  thirty obstacle courses
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  over a five K and you have one camera,
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  you are at a severe disadvantage.
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  Right.
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  um what I what I find
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  alarming is that some of
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  these competitions do these
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  events and that was really
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  really cool but from a
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  spectator point of view
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  even if you're there live
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  you get to see one or two
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  obstacles right right and
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  us viewing we were only
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  getting to see one two
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  maybe three obstacles as
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  they were running up and down the track
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  And I agree with Lex.
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  I think it was,
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  it would have been cool to see it all.
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  And Patrick, I am not, literally,
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  I'm not dogging you.
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  He was one person, maybe two,
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  and that was an immense field of play.
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  The other thing is the bike
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  event where they were,
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  whatever they called it, FTP.
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  The bikes were so close,
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  they didn't have room to
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  get in and show us the monitor.
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  I think that would have
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  changed that just a little bit.
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  But the setup is the setup,
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  and they're doing what they
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  can with what they have.
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  Like Lucy was walking around
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  and kind of saying people's
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  paces and who was in the lead.
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  She did a really good job
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  adding to the broadcast team,
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  like the commentary stuff.
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  I agree.
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  She had a lot of great
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  insight from her perspective,
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  and she knows the athletes
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  very well and just what was possible.
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  I thought – I really enjoyed –
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  Um, her speaking with Brian,
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  like Brian knows the
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  athletes like so well,
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  but like having another
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  athlete there that added,
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  I thought a lot of, um,
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  value to the commentary.
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  Yeah.
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  I, uh, I liked it.
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  I think she's, I was in, like,
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  I was watching it from bed live.
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  Right.
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  I wasn't sleeping well this weekend.
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  So I'm watching it live.
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  I'm, I'm half groggy.
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  If I couldn't see the
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  person's name on the back of their shirt,
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  I wasn't correlating what
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  she was saying with who it
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  was that she was saying it about.
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  And if they had long hair,
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  I didn't see their name at all.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Like, so I think that was just tough, but,
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  but I applaud them for
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  trying because we never get
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  day one from Dubai ever.
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  Right.
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  So we did get, and my gosh,
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  the view from where they
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  were biking was so crazy.
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  I don't like, I don't,
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  I didn't like that event in
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  terms of like the programming.
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  I don't like that they
• 16:09
  forced them to go on damper tan.
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  I don't think that's like,
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  I feel like people should
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  be able to pick the damper
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  that they go on.
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  I don't,
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  I don't see that needing to go on
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  a damper tan.
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  Yeah.
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  And then you had the,
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  the five K obstacle on,
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  you had the one K that you
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  couldn't really see.
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  So like,
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  there was like three events kind
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  of like to begin that you
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  just couldn't really see
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  much as a spectator.
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  And I was like, oh, so,
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  but then towards the back
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  end of the weekend, I got more,
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  more into the events as you,
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  as they were in the tennis stadium.
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  Yeah.
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  I, my last thing on the, on the,
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  on the viewing,
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  it was when they were in
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  the tennis stadium,
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  I love that they were
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  getting more whole floor
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  shots where you could see the race.
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  But the names, identifying who is who,
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  because some of the first heats,
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  I just don't know the
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  athletes well enough from Europe.
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  to be able to identify them.
• 17:05
  And, and maybe that's on me,
• 17:07
  but even if I'm trying to
• 17:08
  get to know them,
• 17:09
  I don't know who they are to know them.
• 17:11
  Um, I wish there was,
• 17:13
  and I've said this over and over again,
• 17:14
  I wish that like the Reebok uniforms,
• 17:17
  once you found out what
• 17:18
  colors your person was wearing,
• 17:20
  you could pick them out pretty quick.
• 17:22
  When,
• 17:23
  now that we're doing like the same
• 17:24
  color across the board,
• 17:26
  it makes it really
• 17:27
  difficult to find the P your people.
• 17:30
  Like when I competed at
• 17:31
  Dubai in like twenty eighteen,
• 17:32
  we didn't get a lot of
• 17:33
  uniforms like so you're
• 17:34
  wearing the same colors the whole time.
• 17:36
  So I feel like it was the
• 17:37
  same like similar here,
• 17:39
  whereas they don't have
• 17:40
  many options for colors.
• 17:41
  So they're often wearing the
• 17:42
  same thing all day and then
• 17:44
  switching the next day.
• 17:45
  Yeah, it was what like black and blue.
• 17:47
  Basically, yeah, there's a lighter blue,
• 17:49
  I think I saw you too.
• 17:50
  Yeah.
• 17:50
  Yeah.
• 17:52
  Vi said, when that guy got on Brian's show,
• 17:55
  had Toby on the podium, I was like, yeah,
• 17:58
  okay, move along.
• 17:58
  My guy, I ate my words.
• 18:03
  And I didn't get to see that.
• 18:04
  So I need to go back because
• 18:05
  I've heard that Toby was awesome.
• 18:08
  Oh, he was incredible.
• 18:15
  Yeah.
• 18:15
  Lex says,
• 18:16
  the event programming was overkill.
• 18:18
  And that's been said about Dubai a lot.
• 18:20
  yeah in their past uh lucy
• 18:29
  is charming and genuine
• 18:30
  love her commentary
• 18:32
  couldn't agree more yeah
• 18:33
  she did a good job
• 18:38
  Um,
• 18:38
  Patrick Clark below backstage info
• 18:41
  every year,
• 18:41
  Brian has to deal with a new
• 18:42
  broadcasting and production team at TFC.
• 18:45
  So he has to train them as
• 18:46
  much as possible,
• 18:48
  as much as you possibly can on CrossFit.
• 18:50
  And there's a language barrier.
• 18:54
  Yeah.
• 18:54
  That's gotta be tough.
• 18:56
  Yeah.
• 18:56
  You could see, I feel like,
• 18:57
  I don't know if Brian's in control.
• 18:59
  Maybe Patrick knows us.
• 19:00
  I mean,
• 19:00
  you can see it in the lifting event.
• 19:03
  it's almost like either
• 19:04
  Brian was queuing which
• 19:05
  camera he want or where he wanted it.
• 19:06
  Cause he would just,
• 19:07
  he would like say like,
• 19:08
  let's try to get this camera on Laura.
• 19:11
  Like we miss Laura Clifton
• 19:13
  lift that first one.
• 19:14
  Let's try to make sure we see this one.
• 19:16
  It would be panned down and they're like,
• 19:17
  Oh, hold on.
• 19:18
  And so I don't know if Brian's doing that,
• 19:20
  which I mean,
• 19:20
  helps for helps if they're
• 19:22
  in that discussion.
• 19:23
  And then he's talking about
• 19:25
  what he's telling them to show,
• 19:27
  which is sometimes a problem.
• 19:28
  You, you know,
• 19:29
  that that doesn't happen with like,
• 19:32
  Sean and Tommy and the, you know,
• 19:33
  like they'd be,
• 19:34
  they'd be talking about
• 19:35
  what we're not even looking at sometimes.
• 19:37
  And you're like, uh, yeah.
• 19:43
  Uh, he responds.
• 19:43
  Yup.
• 19:43
  That hadn't happened in the past.
• 19:46
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  I know like a good sports broadcast.
• 19:50
  the director is in there's a
• 19:52
  communication between the
• 19:53
  director and the announcers
• 19:55
  to make sure that the
• 19:56
  cameras move to where it
• 19:57
  totally needs to happen
• 19:58
  especially if brian is
• 19:59
  there to try to like
• 20:00
  commentate the event and
• 20:01
  speak on an athlete or
• 20:02
  speak on a race on the
• 20:02
  floor like you need they
• 20:04
  need to be in communication
• 20:05
  be like hit hit this like
• 20:07
  we need to be on lane two
• 20:08
  and three um yeah so
• 20:14
  overall I don't how much
• 20:16
  did you guys get to watch of dubai
• 20:19
  I watched a decent amount.
• 20:20
  I think I watched all of
• 20:20
  today and most of yesterday.
• 20:22
  I had to go back and
• 20:23
  re-watch a little bit.
• 20:25
  I didn't see the FTP.
• 20:26
  Other than that,
• 20:28
  I think I got almost everything.
• 20:31
  I watched most of it.
• 20:32
  I'd fast forward a little
• 20:33
  bit if I knew they were on
• 20:34
  a machine because I wasn't
• 20:35
  watching it live.
• 20:38
  I was just watching in
• 20:40
  general most of it though.
• 20:42
  Any highlights for you on the weekend?
• 20:46
  Kristen Hold is still a beast.
• 20:48
  Like, she was, like, on the podium until,
• 20:50
  like, basically the last couple events.
• 20:54
  She's, like, thirty-eight,
• 20:56
  thirty-nine years old.
• 20:58
  She has all of her, like,
• 20:59
  a bunch of her athletes
• 21:00
  there from her programming.
• 21:03
  I think that was cool that
• 21:05
  she's hanging in there with
• 21:07
  them still and obviously
• 21:09
  can beat many of them.
• 21:11
  Jamie Green was impressive.
• 21:13
  Freyova, I mean,
• 21:15
  we kind of expected her to.
• 21:17
  Um, either winner on the podium,
• 21:19
  but happy for Jamie green.
• 21:21
  Um, Solberg had a really good last day,
• 21:24
  which she did last year too.
• 21:26
  Um, she looked very determined.
• 21:28
  Yeah.
• 21:30
  Yeah.
• 21:32
  On Sunday, right?
• 21:33
  Like, yeah, she crushed Sunday.
• 21:37
  On the men's side,
• 21:39
  there wasn't as many top athletes,
• 21:40
  honestly.
• 21:42
  It wasn't as much of a race.
• 21:43
  Luka ran away with it.
• 21:47
  Once more, with Drew,
• 21:52
  the race just wasn't there as much.
• 21:54
  It just wasn't as deep on
• 21:55
  the men's side to me.
• 21:56
  I was more invested on the women's side.
• 22:02
  My highlight was probably
• 22:03
  Tola in the last event.
• 22:04
  Holy cow.
• 22:07
  It was incredible.
• 22:10
  One of my highlights was Tola's comeback.
• 22:12
  Yeah.
• 22:13
  He kind of pulled like an Andrea.
• 22:15
  I mean, they both had a similar final day.
• 22:20
  I was happy for Luca winning.
• 22:21
  I thought that was cool.
• 22:24
  I am a huge Mathilde Garnes fan.
• 22:29
  We've become friends over
• 22:30
  the years and she is just
• 22:31
  one of the nicest people ever.
• 22:32
  Anytime she succeeds, it warms my heart.
• 22:36
  Did she wind up in second?
• 22:39
  Third.
• 22:39
  I think Jamie got second.
• 22:41
  We have the leaderboard.
• 22:43
  I can pull it up.
• 22:44
  Oh, you have it?
• 22:44
  I couldn't find it all weekend.
• 22:46
  I have it ready.
• 22:47
  It's just on Competition Corner.
• 22:48
  Competition Corner is one of
• 22:50
  the worst apps ever to look on.
• 22:52
  Yeah, maybe that was the issue.
• 22:53
  I couldn't find it.
• 22:55
  Now after doing it for a few years,
• 22:56
  like I can figure it out, but oh my gosh.
• 23:00
  So on the men's side, we had Luka Jukic,
• 23:03
  Toby Buckland, Bronislaw Linkiewicz,
• 23:07
  Michael Weslowski, Tolo Morakunio,
• 23:10
  Spencer Panczak, Luis Silar,
• 23:14
  Callum Clements, Jake Douglas,
• 23:16
  and Georges Kervis.
• 23:17
  We'll just do the top ten.
• 23:18
  And only the top six made more money,
• 23:22
  and then after that,
• 23:22
  everyone gets paid the same.
• 23:26
  Yep.
• 23:26
  Just a side note.
• 23:28
  Okay.
• 23:31
  Good showing for Spencer.
• 23:33
  Yeah.
• 23:33
  We're focusing on tactical games.
• 23:35
  And I think that might be
• 23:37
  his best finish at Dubai.
• 23:39
  I think good showing for
• 23:40
  Bronislaw getting on the podium.
• 23:43
  For an old man.
• 23:47
  Maybe that aerodynamic
• 23:49
  haircut that he told me
• 23:50
  about at the Masters games
• 23:53
  is now paying off.
• 23:57
  So that is the leaderboard
• 23:59
  on the men's side.
• 24:01
  On the women's side, I'll blow this up.
• 24:05
  We have Karen Freyova, Jamie Simmons,
• 24:08
  Mathilde Garnes, Andrea Solberg,
• 24:11
  Kristen Holta.
• 24:13
  Why does that keep opening up?
• 24:19
  Okay.
• 24:20
  Andrea Solberg, Kristen Holta,
• 24:22
  Andra Moistus, Oda...
• 24:28
  Yeah, sure.
• 24:30
  Nicole here, Elisa Fuliano, Hannah Black.
• 24:34
  Oh, Oda, I had never heard of before,
• 24:36
  and she caught my eye.
• 24:38
  Yeah.
• 24:38
  Another one, I think, of Kirsten.
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:45
  Athletes.
• 24:48
  Hannah Black did well.
• 24:51
  Hannah did do well.
• 24:51
  Yeah.
• 24:52
  Like,
• 24:55
  She looked,
• 24:55
  she looked good on the E-mom
• 24:59
  one that I saw.
• 25:00
  I don't remember where she
• 25:01
  actually finished,
• 25:01
  but like she was holding her own.
• 25:03
  She's, you know,
• 25:04
  stronger athlete and that
• 25:05
  one seemed to be rowing capacity.
• 25:07
  So I guess that one doesn't surprise me,
• 25:10
  but like soul bear crushed it.
• 25:14
  And she's not one of your bigger athletes.
• 25:17
  Uh, fourth year row,
• 25:18
  a Criker athlete has
• 25:19
  finished second and they
• 25:20
  need to do better.
• 25:21
  Who wait, Jamie got second.
• 25:25
  uh jamie yeah jamie did I
• 25:31
  get second yes yeah she's
• 25:32
  yes but but some people is
• 25:35
  she crager though I don't
• 25:37
  know no I don't think so
• 25:38
  okay I almost feel like
• 25:42
  elliot programs for her I
• 25:44
  don't yeah yeah uh hannah
• 25:46
  hardy is being asked about
• 25:49
  um she finished ninth
• 25:53
  Brittany Weiss just missed the cut.
• 25:55
  I know.
• 25:58
  That was a bummer.
• 26:01
  It was just heavy.
• 26:03
  Lynn said TTT with Toby, Linda,
• 26:05
  and Anika did amazing this year.
• 26:08
  Anika had a really good
• 26:09
  event with that chest of bar and a squat.
• 26:11
  Yes.
• 26:12
  I mean, that's right up her alley.
• 26:15
  Yeah.
• 26:17
  Um,
• 26:19
  All right.
• 26:20
  Any lowlights from the Dubai
• 26:23
  Fitness Championships?
• 26:29
  No.
• 26:29
  I mean,
• 26:30
  I think I thought Anika would
• 26:31
  finish higher than she did.
• 26:34
  I mean, low lights,
• 26:37
  I would say the fans don't not showing up,
• 26:40
  but that's not really,
• 26:41
  really a low light.
• 26:42
  It's the same thing every year.
• 26:43
  I mean,
• 26:44
  there was more people like years ago,
• 26:45
  but it's just, it's just empty.
• 26:48
  So I guess that's my,
• 26:49
  my low light for that
• 26:52
  competition is had that
• 26:54
  like stadium been filled,
• 26:56
  it just creates a different
• 26:57
  atmosphere for the athletes.
• 27:01
  It's just too bad that it's not.
• 27:03
  It's empty every year.
• 27:04
  Yeah.
• 27:05
  It's really interesting to
• 27:07
  hear some athletes say that like,
• 27:09
  this is their favorite event.
• 27:11
  This is the one they look forward to.
• 27:12
  It's so exciting.
• 27:13
  And then,
• 27:14
  and then you get other comments
• 27:16
  that are completely opposite.
• 27:19
  So I'm going to,
• 27:19
  as to one of those comments,
• 27:21
  that's completely opposite.
• 27:22
  Thank you for the segue,
• 27:22
  but I'm going to give you
• 27:24
  my low light really quick.
• 27:25
  My low light is an EMOM
• 27:27
  should never be in competition.
• 27:29
  That was just dumb to watch.
• 27:34
  that that was gross to watch
• 27:36
  like they like people died
• 27:39
  on that emom yes um I know
• 27:41
  but I think annika wrote on
• 27:42
  her thing like that was
• 27:43
  like one of the hardest
• 27:43
  because of the heat as well
• 27:46
  um at that time of the day
• 27:48
  but yeah it's more just
• 27:50
  like getting you tired
• 27:51
  until you go for those two
• 27:52
  rounds the problem is the
• 27:54
  dictator's tired now too
• 27:55
  because it's really boring
• 27:56
  to watch yeah I mean a
• 27:58
  death by would have been
• 27:58
  better where you just kind
• 27:59
  of add a rep every round until you can't
• 28:03
  um can't make it yeah yeah
• 28:07
  so right before we went on
• 28:09
  air um I I've been a little
• 28:11
  occupied this weekend with
• 28:12
  some stuff so I got some
• 28:14
  notes right before we went
• 28:15
  on air and one of those is
• 28:16
  from lex that sam dancer
• 28:18
  actually made a comment
• 28:19
  about dubai uh responding
• 28:22
  to one of hiller's videos
• 28:25
  And so his comment was, yo,
• 28:28
  that comp and place is wild.
• 28:30
  The most poorly judged event
• 28:32
  I've ever done.
• 28:33
  Dubai is like a really hot
• 28:35
  chick that is super rich
• 28:36
  and has absolutely no heart
• 28:38
  or personality.
• 28:46
  Yeah.
• 28:47
  Judging was questionable at times, man,
• 28:51
  that final, you didn't watch the final.
• 28:52
  Did you Scott?
• 28:54
  um did I watch it yes did I
• 28:58
  watch it with a lot of
• 28:59
  intent no so they were like
• 29:01
  it was supposed to be this
• 29:02
  like second dotted line is
• 29:03
  where they're supposed to
• 29:04
  finish their overhead
• 29:05
  walking lunge and some
• 29:07
  people had to keep lunging
• 29:08
  all the way to the fine the
• 29:10
  like time box line and some
• 29:13
  people stepped on the line
• 29:15
  and got what waved through
• 29:16
  like it would that for
• 29:18
  being the final that was frustrating
• 29:20
  brian at one point was like
• 29:21
  this person didn't even
• 29:22
  finish their lunch and he's
• 29:24
  like yeah he was not happy
• 29:26
  with that finish but it was
• 29:29
  just like he was just
• 29:30
  giving his opinion right
• 29:31
  there like oh that was not
• 29:32
  a wrap that's actually not
• 29:34
  a bench she's lucky yeah I
• 29:36
  actually like appreciate
• 29:38
  that I I appreciate brian
• 29:39
  speaking up I don't know if
• 29:40
  other people do I'm sure
• 29:42
  the athletes don't love it but like man i
• 29:44
  Should be called out.
• 29:46
  And the handstand in another
• 29:48
  workout had a standard that
• 29:49
  was different.
• 29:50
  Yeah,
• 29:51
  you could just put your hand on the line.
• 29:52
  It makes it clear.
• 29:54
  Honestly, I get the point of it.
• 29:59
  It's just different than
• 30:00
  what we're used to.
• 30:01
  It happens in every sport.
• 30:03
  I'm watching Penn State
• 30:04
  Oregon the other night.
• 30:05
  The announcers are saying
• 30:06
  that the refs are missing it.
• 30:08
  They're blowing it.
• 30:09
  And the announcers keep
• 30:10
  saying it over and over again.
• 30:12
  It makes it hard to watch.
• 30:14
  But I will say this for the, again,
• 30:17
  I hate repeating myself,
• 30:18
  but I came up through
• 30:19
  judging before I started
• 30:21
  doing this media stuff.
• 30:23
  Usually when I watch a competition,
• 30:24
  I see my friends in Dubai.
• 30:28
  I see none of my friends.
• 30:32
  So that,
• 30:33
  that group who is judging there
• 30:36
  and my experience are like
• 30:38
  very under experienced judges.
• 30:41
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  actually came up the same
• 30:44
  time patrick did judging so
• 30:46
  maybe he has a different
• 30:47
  view of it but when I'm
• 30:49
  watching the stream I do
• 30:50
  not see any of my friends
• 30:51
  there lynn he's at sam has
• 30:55
  actually competed there
• 30:55
  three times when I competed
• 30:58
  there in I had a good
• 31:00
  experience like I mean
• 31:01
  physically it was difficult um
• 31:05
  especially my desert run.
• 31:06
  But, um, like I,
• 31:09
  I enjoyed the competition
• 31:10
  when I was there and maybe
• 31:11
  I was there during one of
• 31:12
  their better years.
• 31:16
  Um, well,
• 31:20
  the only thing that I remember
• 31:22
  not liking was that a lot of the,
• 31:24
  The tiebreakers,
• 31:25
  they never had any good way
• 31:28
  to... So some people had
• 31:29
  like... Twenty people had
• 31:30
  the same score at some points.
• 31:32
  That was the only thing.
• 31:33
  I remember seeing a couple years,
• 31:35
  they still had problems
• 31:36
  with their tiebreakers and scores.
• 31:38
  But this year,
• 31:39
  they didn't have much of that.
• 31:41
  It was mostly just fans and
• 31:43
  maybe a few bad calls.
• 31:47
  I mean, lots of bad calls for the judging.
• 31:50
  He does go on a little bit further.
• 31:52
  I'll read that.
• 31:54
  In another response, he says,
• 31:58
  that was a very generous
• 31:59
  way of me putting it, and quite frankly,
• 32:02
  I could go on and on about
• 32:03
  the place and the comp.
• 32:05
  From bribery on multiple
• 32:07
  occasions to witnessing
• 32:08
  what may have been slavery,
• 32:13
  I'm not saying there aren't
• 32:14
  good people there.
• 32:15
  I've met some lovely people there,
• 32:17
  including great judges nonetheless.
• 32:19
  That comp was a mess every year I've been.
• 32:22
  Sexy, but a mess.
• 32:28
  Well, we thank you for your opinion, Sam.
• 32:33
  Yeah.
• 32:33
  I can't respond to it
• 32:34
  specifically because I've never been.
• 32:36
  Yeah, me neither.
• 32:37
  Carolyn has been.
• 32:37
  She's the only one that can,
• 32:39
  and she had a good
• 32:40
  experience when she was there.
• 32:42
  Like it was, I mean, it wasn't bad.
• 32:44
  Like I enjoyed it,
• 32:45
  but it was one of like my
• 32:46
  first major competitions
• 32:48
  and like internet,
• 32:49
  like it was my first
• 32:50
  international competitions.
• 32:51
  Like I was,
• 32:53
  I guess trying to enjoy the
• 32:55
  experience in a different
• 32:56
  way than maybe some people
• 32:58
  were competing there.
• 33:00
  Do they pay for the athletes to get there?
• 33:02
  So back then you did an
• 33:03
  online qualifier and where you finished,
• 33:07
  when you got there,
• 33:07
  you received a little bit of money.
• 33:09
  Like they gave you like an
• 33:10
  envelope at check-in for
• 33:13
  like the top three or
• 33:14
  something of the placing.
• 33:15
  So I think I had finished within that.
• 33:16
  So I had a small little bit.
• 33:18
  And then the amount that you got was...
• 33:22
  at the end of the competition,
• 33:24
  whatever you finished.
• 33:26
  Okay.
• 33:28
  I just remember like being
• 33:29
  in the finale at one point.
• 33:30
  They're like,
• 33:30
  this workout's not worth
• 33:32
  three thousand dollars now.
• 33:33
  It's now worth thirty thousand dollars.
• 33:35
  And I was like, what is going on?
• 33:37
  They're just throwing money away.
• 33:38
  They're like, and then everyone's like,
• 33:41
  oh shit, let's do this workout.
• 33:45
  But like they had,
• 33:45
  they were throwing like way
• 33:47
  more money back then.
• 33:48
  Like what was the prize in,
• 33:50
  like what was the prize this year?
• 33:52
  I don't even know.
• 33:54
  I didn't even see what the, I know.
• 33:55
  Nineteen was a crazy year
• 33:56
  where they put the a
• 33:57
  hundred grand out on acid bath.
• 33:58
  Right.
• 33:59
  That's the year I was there.
• 34:00
  Acid bath.
• 34:01
  Oh, okay.
• 34:03
  I think it was like,
• 34:04
  thirty thousand was one number one.
• 34:07
  Maybe, maybe that's high.
• 34:08
  I don't know.
• 34:09
  Oh, fifty K. Okay.
• 34:11
  Then maybe it was fifty, thirty.
• 34:13
  I don't know.
• 34:18
  Yeah.
• 34:22
  I'll say,
• 34:22
  I'll say one thing is in my desert run,
• 34:26
  like I had heat stroke for
• 34:28
  the first time in my career.
• 34:30
  I've had it many times since then.
• 34:33
  And I just remember taking
• 34:35
  off my weight vest and
• 34:37
  cause you took it off
• 34:38
  halfway and you're in the desert,
• 34:40
  like in the sand dunes and
• 34:42
  there was no one there.
• 34:44
  No one there.
• 34:45
  And I just remembered,
• 34:46
  if I pass out right now,
• 34:48
  I'm dying in the desert.
• 34:49
  There's no one here to save me.
• 34:51
  So I was like, make it to the finish line.
• 34:53
  Make it to the finish line.
• 34:54
  There will be help there.
• 34:56
  Help is there.
• 34:57
  And I just walked and
• 34:58
  stumbled and stumbled.
• 35:00
  And I got to the finish line.
• 35:01
  There was no ice.
• 35:02
  They treated me in a tent, which was like,
• 35:04
  ten degrees, fifteen degrees,
• 35:06
  even hotter.
• 35:06
  And I was like, get me out of here.
• 35:11
  But then they took me to...
• 35:13
  a hospital for like IV and stuff.
• 35:16
  But I just remember like
• 35:17
  there was no help there.
• 35:18
  They had no ice, no.
• 35:20
  So I guess that part was not very good.
• 35:24
  And that desert run took out
• 35:25
  people like that took out Laura, right?
• 35:28
  If I remember right.
• 35:33
  It was her lower back,
• 35:35
  I think at that point.
• 35:36
  Okay.
• 35:38
  I think she was dealing with a lower back,
• 35:39
  maybe.
• 35:41
  I remember her sitting like
• 35:43
  on I guess what was the
• 35:45
  running course at the very end,
• 35:46
  like after the finish,
• 35:48
  just kind of sitting there.
• 35:50
  And then she withdrew shortly thereafter.
• 35:53
  So I may be like connecting
• 35:54
  dots with and missing a few
• 35:55
  along the way.
• 35:56
  I think,
• 35:57
  I think it was a back if I remember,
• 35:59
  but that was the only bad.
• 36:01
  I mean, it could have been very, very bad.
• 36:04
  Yeah.
• 36:05
  That was, I mean,
• 36:06
  when they brought that up, it was,
• 36:08
  that was,
• 36:09
  everybody was saying how crazy that was.
• 36:12
  I run through the desert, but,
• 36:19
  That was Dubai.
• 36:21
  Then we had fit fest this weekend as well,
• 36:24
  which Patrick knows all too
• 36:25
  well because he was
• 36:26
  streaming it live on the be
• 36:29
  friendly channel.
• 36:30
  So if you want to go see any
• 36:31
  of the elements there, and I think,
• 36:35
  I think my first,
• 36:37
  my first take on this is if
• 36:39
  you're viewing this as a competition,
• 36:40
  you're viewing it wrong.
• 36:43
  It is truly like a community event.
• 36:46
  A showcase.
• 36:48
  Right.
• 36:48
  And to get to meet the fans,
• 36:50
  to get to – like when you
• 36:54
  saw them do the activations with the fans,
• 36:57
  like Ariel – and you saw
• 36:58
  this on their Instagram channels,
• 37:00
  like them teaching someone
• 37:01
  how to do handstand walks or them.
• 37:03
  Like I thought that was awesome.
• 37:06
  Yeah,
• 37:06
  I didn't realize that they had those
• 37:08
  tasks to do while they're there.
• 37:10
  So I guess it makes sense
• 37:11
  why they're like paying
• 37:13
  them to go there like
• 37:13
  showcase and then I'm sure
• 37:16
  people pay a big fee to get coached by X,
• 37:19
  Y and Z. Yeah, I was I don't know.
• 37:23
  I was confused watching it.
• 37:24
  I think I watched the run and then.
• 37:29
  And then I watched their one
• 37:31
  where they did the synchro bar muscle up,
• 37:34
  ring muscle up into snatching.
• 37:38
  Yes.
• 37:40
  I don't know.
• 37:40
  What made it difficult is
• 37:41
  they were so spread out on the floor,
• 37:43
  which doesn't help Patrick.
• 37:44
  Who's like a one man team,
• 37:46
  like trying to get both
• 37:47
  teams and he's having to go
• 37:49
  from one side of the rig.
• 37:50
  And then they're even moving
• 37:51
  down the rig towards the middle.
• 37:53
  And then he's having like, it's so, I mean,
• 37:56
  sorry, Patrick, but,
• 37:58
  Like that's just so hard for
• 37:59
  him to keep up with the race.
• 38:01
  And then us as fans,
• 38:02
  it's hard to follow because
• 38:03
  you can't see what the
• 38:05
  other team is doing.
• 38:06
  Like you're stuck watching
• 38:08
  one team at a time.
• 38:10
  And it's not really his fault.
• 38:11
  It's just the way that they
• 38:12
  were set up on the floor
• 38:16
  made it hard to see the race sometimes.
• 38:18
  Yeah.
• 38:19
  Yeah.
• 38:21
  So I agree with everything you're saying,
• 38:23
  right?
• 38:24
  It was confusing, but that's when I had to,
• 38:26
  in my mind,
• 38:27
  say this is not a competition.
• 38:28
  Yeah,
• 38:29
  I guess I wasn't thinking that at the
• 38:33
  time, but yeah.
• 38:33
  Yes,
• 38:33
  these two entities are fighting
• 38:35
  against each other for points,
• 38:37
  but there's no like big
• 38:40
  prize at the end or it's not.
• 38:42
  It's really just so
• 38:43
  everybody has fun watching
• 38:45
  their favorite athlete go
• 38:46
  out and do maybe some
• 38:47
  things they've never seen them do before.
• 38:50
  And it was nice that it
• 38:51
  wasn't a lopsided win.
• 38:52
  It was three-three after
• 38:54
  last night or whatever it was.
• 38:57
  So it's not like one team
• 38:59
  was winning six-one and
• 39:02
  it's not even enjoyable to
• 39:05
  still want to see a little
• 39:07
  battle between the rest of
• 39:09
  the world and Europe.
• 39:14
  Lex is right.
• 39:17
  It felt like a chaotic
• 39:18
  cousin to what a Palooza team.
• 39:20
  Yeah.
• 39:21
  But I think,
• 39:22
  and I think even the athletes
• 39:23
  said this themselves,
• 39:24
  what it was meant more to them than this.
• 39:27
  This was really just an exhibition.
• 39:30
  Hmm.
• 39:33
  And,
• 39:34
  and so here's a couple of my
• 39:35
  highlights and I don't want
• 39:36
  to just bash it.
• 39:37
  Cause I think one, it was crowded.
• 39:40
  So people came to watch and
• 39:42
  that's a good thing.
• 39:42
  Yeah.
• 39:42
  That was good.
• 39:44
  Right.
• 39:45
  Two,
• 39:47
  The one event that I really
• 39:49
  enjoyed watching, and again,
• 39:50
  I wish I could have seen all the elements,
• 39:53
  but Patrick is one man with one camera,
• 39:56
  and that is the American
• 39:57
  Ninja Warrior or the Ninja
• 39:59
  Warrior course because it's
• 40:01
  showing CrossFit in a way
• 40:04
  that is adaptive.
• 40:06
  And it adds the element that
• 40:09
  Carolyn loves and that's athleticism,
• 40:11
  right?
• 40:12
  And these people get to see
• 40:13
  that these people that
• 40:14
  train CrossFit can adapt to
• 40:16
  these other things
• 40:18
  relatively quickly with
• 40:19
  their athleticism.
• 40:20
  Like you look at a Jason
• 40:22
  Hopper who is an athlete
• 40:23
  first and then jumped into CrossFit.
• 40:26
  He went through that
• 40:26
  obstacle course super quick.
• 40:30
  Right.
• 40:31
  And so it lets you... We
• 40:32
  watch these people on
• 40:33
  American Ninja Warrior
• 40:34
  every year and get sucked
• 40:36
  into their stories and all of that stuff.
• 40:38
  And to see that a
• 40:38
  CrossFitter can jump in and
• 40:40
  do it... And there were
• 40:41
  very minimal bobbles.
• 40:43
  I think it was a very
• 40:44
  low-skill obstacle course, though.
• 40:46
  Nothing like Ninja Warrior.
• 40:48
  It was more... It reminded
• 40:49
  me a lot more of my Tough
• 40:51
  Mudder mile that I had to
• 40:54
  do where there was just
• 40:55
  some small little obstacle stuff.
• 40:56
  It was...
• 40:59
  like it was, it was low skill obstacles.
• 41:00
  Like the one beam was like super short.
• 41:02
  Of course.
• 41:04
  And it wasn't spinning and it, nothing was,
• 41:07
  nothing was very technical.
• 41:08
  Like I was even surprised
• 41:09
  that some athletes missed
• 41:11
  any of those obstacles.
• 41:13
  Like it was very basic.
• 41:16
  Yeah.
• 41:17
  But I,
• 41:18
  I thought it was a cool concept and
• 41:19
  it was fun to, I liked it.
• 41:20
  It was fun.
• 41:21
  As you saw the, the lead changes and, and,
• 41:24
  and who was really good at it.
• 41:25
  And,
• 41:26
  And who struggled a little
• 41:28
  like Colton falling off the
• 41:29
  beam seven times,
• 41:31
  even though he only had to
• 41:32
  fall off twice and then continue on.
• 41:34
  He tried it a couple more
• 41:35
  times and kept falling.
• 41:36
  So.
• 41:39
  So Lynn says here,
• 41:41
  I'm thinking maybe fit fest
• 41:43
  is dumbly down on being
• 41:44
  more of an in-person
• 41:45
  showcase of all functional fitness,
• 41:48
  like a mini Arnold type of thing.
• 41:50
  And Patrick's follows up
• 41:51
  saying one hundred percent.
• 41:52
  That's why we couldn't
• 41:53
  announce we were streaming
• 41:55
  till the day of.
• 41:57
  So and I guess I was
• 41:57
  confused on this last year, too,
• 41:59
  because I tried to follow.
• 42:00
  And it seemed like like,
• 42:01
  is this is it a big festival?
• 42:04
  Is there other CrossFit
• 42:06
  events like Gen Pop?
• 42:09
  I wonder.
• 42:09
  It's called like the Arnold
• 42:12
  has tons of different fitness things.
• 42:14
  I wonder.
• 42:14
  Right, right.
• 42:16
  Like, they have Taekwondo,
• 42:17
  and they have Judo,
• 42:18
  and they have Strongman,
• 42:20
  and... So they had
• 42:23
  Strongman going on at this?
• 42:25
  I don't know.
• 42:25
  I'm asking Patrick.
• 42:26
  Oh, yeah.
• 42:27
  I mean... Thanks, Ken.
• 42:33
  Yeah, that's... Like,
• 42:34
  I feel like it should...
• 42:36
  They should... FitFest
• 42:37
  should stream all of the
• 42:39
  aspects of what they're
• 42:40
  doing and showcase some of this stuff.
• 42:42
  I mean, I guess Arnold isn't streamed,
• 42:43
  so I can see...
• 42:46
  So Arnold is streamed.
• 42:49
  It is.
• 42:50
  But the complication, so some of it is,
• 42:53
  you have to remember all
• 42:54
  these different fitness
• 42:55
  things have different
• 42:57
  governing bodies or different...
• 43:01
  You know what I mean?
• 43:02
  And they have their own
• 43:03
  rules about what can be
• 43:05
  streamed and what can't be streamed.
• 43:06
  So like Strongman is streamed from there,
• 43:08
  of course, right?
• 43:10
  Because it has its own thing
• 43:12
  and they publicize it and
• 43:13
  they put it out there.
• 43:15
  The bodybuilding for sure gets streamed,
• 43:18
  but it's on its own channel
• 43:20
  doing its own thing.
• 43:21
  So each little aspect is
• 43:23
  signed off for their streaming thing.
• 43:26
  Interesting.
• 43:28
  So was there any, was there just general,
• 43:31
  could like an intermediate
• 43:32
  sign up for fit fest for a
• 43:34
  CrossFit competition?
• 43:36
  Or was it only those like
• 43:39
  athletes that the big name
• 43:41
  athletes that came in and
• 43:42
  just did an exhibition?
• 43:43
  Was there any other CrossFit there?
• 43:49
  They had ATHX, UK Weightlifting Meet,
• 43:53
  UK Rowing Championships,
• 43:55
  the Indoor Obstacle Course League,
• 43:57
  and a bunch of activations.
• 44:00
  I saw they were doing the rowing.
• 44:02
  Didn't Kyle do it?
• 44:04
  He did.
• 44:05
  How'd he do?
• 44:07
  Emily said that he PR'd his
• 44:09
  two K by like six to eight
• 44:11
  seconds or something like that.
• 44:11
  Dang.
• 44:13
  Which any PR on a two K is a PR.
• 44:16
  That's a tough thing to do.
• 44:18
  Gosh, it's awful.
• 44:21
  what's worse a one K or two
• 44:22
  K two K yeah um and then
• 44:29
  also strength and depth was
• 44:30
  hosting a regular
• 44:31
  competition okay so
• 44:32
  strength and depth was at
• 44:34
  fitbest running their
• 44:35
  competition running a
• 44:38
  competition not the normal
• 44:40
  strength and depth right oh
• 44:43
  a lot of options for people
• 44:46
  yeah I think it's a cool idea
• 44:50
  do think that they need to
• 44:51
  find a way to broadcast it
• 44:53
  though yeah and just make
• 44:55
  it easier on like even if
• 44:59
  it's just one camera make
• 45:00
  it make the teams like next
• 45:01
  to each other so we can see
• 45:03
  the race much better so
• 45:07
  here's my my take from this thing
• 45:11
  It was hugely popular.
• 45:13
  If you go to the Arnold,
• 45:14
  as Patrick's describing it,
• 45:16
  just like they're shoulder to shoulder,
• 45:18
  you cannot move at the Arnold, right?
• 45:21
  There was a time when
• 45:23
  CrossFit athletes would
• 45:24
  move around the country or
• 45:26
  go to different events
• 45:27
  around the country and be
• 45:29
  available to fans to take
• 45:33
  selfies or to do activations or to do...
• 45:37
  It feels like that has been
• 45:40
  narrowed down to where it
• 45:41
  only happens at the games,
• 45:43
  and it's only athletes who
• 45:44
  didn't make it to the games.
• 45:47
  where I remember when Rich
• 45:48
  and Annie won the games the same year,
• 45:52
  they did like a little mini
• 45:53
  tour around the country
• 45:55
  where they were speaking to people,
• 45:57
  meeting with people,
• 45:58
  doing stuff like that.
• 46:00
  And I think we've gotten away from that.
• 46:01
  And it may be one of the
• 46:04
  pieces where we're losing a
• 46:06
  connection between the
• 46:07
  community or the spectators
• 46:10
  and the athletes.
• 46:15
  Any thoughts on that?
• 46:16
  Because I thought this
• 46:17
  looked hugely successful,
• 46:19
  and it was a way to do it
• 46:20
  in a mass group where the
• 46:21
  athletes got to hang out together,
• 46:23
  they got to have fun together,
• 46:24
  but they also got to make
• 46:26
  that connection with the community.
• 46:30
  And they got their way paid.
• 46:34
  Yeah.
• 46:35
  I don't know.
• 46:35
  I feel like we've lost the...
• 46:38
  affiliate model and or these
• 46:41
  athletes being affiliate
• 46:42
  owners and feeling
• 46:44
  affiliate with being an
• 46:46
  affiliate owner but I feel
• 46:47
  like that's why rich was
• 46:49
  the way he was is because
• 46:50
  he understands that that
• 46:52
  connection is what I mean
• 46:57
  it's going to help him in
• 46:58
  the long run so he's going like
• 47:02
  These people just see the
• 47:03
  sport as the sport and that's it.
• 47:05
  And they, they,
• 47:06
  there's nothing like that's okay too.
• 47:08
  I think, I don't know.
• 47:11
  I love the affiliate.
• 47:12
  I love hanging out the affiliate.
• 47:13
  I love the people at the affiliate.
• 47:15
  I love all that.
• 47:16
  I don't want it to go away,
• 47:17
  but there's just as much
• 47:19
  for someone wanting to, um,
• 47:22
  that's not a part of an
• 47:24
  affiliate that wants to
• 47:26
  like increase their own popularity,
• 47:28
  their own brand, their own.
• 47:31
  So just because they're not
• 47:33
  part of an affiliate
• 47:34
  doesn't mean they don't
• 47:34
  want to be a part of this outreach.
• 47:39
  I agree.
• 47:41
  I don't know.
• 47:42
  Do you see them doing that?
• 47:45
  I don't think there's been opportunities.
• 47:48
  I think when like,
• 47:49
  and this is my own theory.
• 47:52
  I think that when the media
• 47:55
  team went away from
• 47:55
  CrossFit and CrossFit
• 47:57
  started filming people
• 47:58
  doing this stuff or
• 48:00
  creating events to film people at,
• 48:03
  we lost that connection.
• 48:04
  Yeah.
• 48:05
  Yeah.
• 48:08
  So the opportunity went away
• 48:09
  for athletes to go do those
• 48:10
  types of things.
• 48:15
  Yeah.
• 48:16
  Now they feel like they are the commodity.
• 48:23
  Where I think there,
• 48:24
  there are other ways to
• 48:25
  make connections with the
• 48:26
  community outside of the affiliate model.
• 48:29
  Even though I'm a firm
• 48:30
  believer in the affiliate model,
• 48:32
  I see that there can be
• 48:33
  other ways as well.
• 48:50
  because the sport has
• 48:51
  professionalized more since
• 48:52
  then by the way most
• 48:54
  athletes might not be now
• 48:56
  but if you ask them their
• 48:58
  plan down the road when
• 48:59
  they are done that most of
• 49:01
  them will probably open a gym
• 49:04
  I don't think most of them
• 49:05
  even have work experience,
• 49:07
  so it makes sense that they open a gym.
• 49:09
  If I'm being honest,
• 49:10
  they've spent their whole
• 49:11
  years in the gym.
• 49:12
  Most are not even going to school,
• 49:15
  so they get their L-I,
• 49:16
  their L-II or whatever and open a gym.
• 49:19
  It's an easy transition for
• 49:22
  some of those athletes,
• 49:23
  especially if they've
• 49:24
  created a name for
• 49:24
  themselves and they can
• 49:26
  program and all that.
• 49:27
  It makes sense.
• 49:30
  If you have other...
• 49:32
  Degrees in career,
• 49:34
  your options are much bigger.
• 49:35
  Yeah.
• 49:39
  I think their options are more limited.
• 49:42
  And there's nothing wrong with that.
• 49:43
  I'm just saying that's why
• 49:47
  they need to maximize their sponsorships.
• 49:49
  They need to maximize their
• 49:53
  brand maybe and start programming,
• 49:55
  et cetera,
• 49:55
  to eventually be more
• 49:59
  successful when they
• 50:00
  transition into that part.
• 50:04
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  Miss naysayer Lex says,
• 50:10
  I laugh because they say
• 50:11
  open a gym with no business acumen.
• 50:14
  There's more to opening a
• 50:15
  gym than having a level one respectfully.
• 50:18
  It's true.
• 50:19
  The people that have done
• 50:19
  well opening a gym honestly
• 50:21
  have had really good partners.
• 50:24
  right like I can just think
• 50:26
  of locally graham holmberg
• 50:28
  bought the rogue building
• 50:30
  when they decided to become
• 50:32
  a manufacturer and they
• 50:33
  opened crossfit grandview
• 50:35
  and that was a partnership
• 50:36
  that eventually had joey
• 50:38
  tutoro and that group and
• 50:40
  that gym is massive now
• 50:41
  right because they had the
• 50:42
  right partners to grow that
• 50:44
  gym um so it can be done
• 50:47
  you have graham who won the
• 50:49
  games adds the name and
• 50:51
  then the partner who has
• 50:52
  the money in the business
• 50:53
  acumen to make it go
• 50:55
  And I've seen a lot of people do that.
• 51:00
  Um, so somewhere in here,
• 51:03
  Lex poses a question.
• 51:05
  Cause I think we're done with,
• 51:06
  we're done with, uh, fit fest UK, right?
• 51:08
  Yeah.
• 51:09
  I just, I, I,
• 51:10
  I hope that somebody sees
• 51:12
  that and they do kind of
• 51:13
  something like that here in
• 51:14
  the U S I think that it would be,
• 51:17
  and I maybe T that's what tears doing,
• 51:19
  but they've made it really
• 51:21
  see a serious competition
• 51:22
  and the athletes aren't
• 51:23
  going to go do a bunch of
• 51:24
  activations on top of that.
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  While Patrick is there, though,
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  thanks for doing the
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  broadcast for that and that
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  we were able to follow along.
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  Yeah.
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  So random talk a bit.
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  Did you see Proven is doing
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  some community challenge comp?
• 51:40
  I did not see that.
• 51:41
  I did a little bit, yes.
• 51:44
  I saw it was like thirty
• 51:45
  thousand or something like
• 51:46
  that and some prizes.
• 51:48
  But is it only affiliates
• 51:49
  that do their programing?
• 51:50
  Is it because it said it was free,
• 51:52
  but I don't know if it was
• 51:53
  free to everyone or what?
• 51:55
  I don't know all the details with it, but.
• 51:58
  Let me see if they have
• 51:59
  anything on their IG.
• 52:03
  You guys talk amongst yourself.
• 52:04
  I mean, you would think that it would be.
• 52:10
  proven community like if
• 52:11
  you're follow their vlog or
• 52:13
  you pay for their whatever
• 52:15
  or their was it wasn't
• 52:16
  mayhem going to be doing
• 52:17
  the same thing too like a
• 52:18
  mayhem I guess if it is
• 52:20
  just the proven community
• 52:21
  it's the same thing that
• 52:22
  mayhem um already proven
• 52:24
  gym so to me it's a similar
• 52:27
  concept then then what
• 52:28
  mayhem are answered uh I I
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  will pull it up here it's not free oh so
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  Over here.
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  All right.
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  Here we go.
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  This is confusing.
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  I think it is completely
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  free to gym owners, free to gym owners.
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  I get that they get like,
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  they'll get the workouts and stuff.
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  The individuals have to are
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  gonna have to pay.
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  That's ridiculous.
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  It's just another version of the open.
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  It's just so more people get
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  their proven thingy and
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  then they'll use some of that money.
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  It's an outreach marketing
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  program similar to the open
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  to bring in other gyms or individuals.
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  Yeah, but I mean,
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  I feel like if you have people,
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  especially like whatever, get new sign up,
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  new gyms to sign up.
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  But I feel like you've had
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  if you've had loyal gyms following.
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  OK, Lynn says, yes, Jamie,
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  our affiliate is proven and
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  we're not paying.
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  OK, that's good.
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  That's the way it should be.
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  And Lex is saying what I'm saying,
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  it's free for an affiliate
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  to sign up and get a free
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  month of programming,
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  but it costs individuals to register.
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  Well, that's two differing things.
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  It's going too fast.
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  Dang it.
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  All right, there we go.
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  Do you think it's meant to
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  be an alternative to the open?
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  No.
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  No.
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  No, it's just a money thing for them.
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  Get more people to do their programming.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I suppose some people that
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  are up in the air on the
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  Twenty five percent or even
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  ten percent cut off may
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  take a stab at this.
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  I don't know.
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  I mean, is it.
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  Is it twenty dollars,
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  like what's the sign up for it?
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  I don't know, but.
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  Lex says because their post
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  says they're asking people
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  to comment for five dollars
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  off the registration.
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  Yeah,
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  but that just be for like me for you.
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  I would I would think if my
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  gym was proven.
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  I don't know.
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  I mean, I How do they know?
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  Well, that's true.
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  Like I like I could just
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  sign up and just say that
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  my gym which doesn't do proven.
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  Well,
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  there's gotta be there's gotta be
• 56:39
  like an affiliate code.
• 56:41
  Like you need Yeah, okay.
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  But not that that couldn't get shared.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, if they're giving out thirty grand,
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  they need to make money
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  somehow unless they're just
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  floating in it.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  So.
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  Got to make money somehow.
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  And I'm kind of a cynic.
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  I think that maybe it is not.
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  It's a test to see if it
• 57:05
  could be an alternate to the open.
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  Now.
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  OK.
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  I mean,
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  they're not going to get a hundred
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  thousand people to sign up for that.
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  All right, then it'd have to be cheap.
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  Did you guys see that the
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  documentary was number one on iTunes?
• 57:33
  I saw that it was number one.
• 57:34
  I did not see the documentary though.
• 57:36
  I have not seen the documentary,
• 57:37
  but I saw posts,
• 57:39
  I think somewhere that it was number one.
• 57:44
  Yeah.
• 57:46
  Did you watch it?
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  I have not watched it.
• 57:48
  Okay.
• 57:48
  So none of us have watched it.
• 57:50
  We're doing great.
• 57:53
  Well, I really have a hard time.
• 57:55
  And the people that I have
• 57:57
  seen it and I've talked to
• 57:59
  have said it actually is pretty good.
• 58:02
  Yeah.
• 58:03
  Yeah.
• 58:05
  I didn't watch any,
• 58:06
  like I have really been
• 58:07
  busy this weekend.
• 58:07
  Same.
• 58:08
  I haven't even watched
• 58:08
  Taylor's recap on it.
• 58:09
  And I would normally have
• 58:10
  not watched any of the reviews, but I,
• 58:12
  but cat from our Thursday
• 58:14
  show has seen it said it was pretty,
• 58:17
  it was actually pretty good.
• 58:19
  Well,
• 58:19
  it would have a different perspective.
• 58:21
  As soon as it's different
• 58:22
  people producing it,
• 58:25
  because the other ones were
• 58:27
  getting the same type of
• 58:29
  going through first event, second event,
• 58:31
  third.
• 58:31
  And I don't know what this
• 58:32
  one is going to be like,
• 58:33
  but just having new producers,
• 58:35
  they could have a different
• 58:36
  angle of the games that we
• 58:39
  haven't really shown.
• 58:40
  Yeah.
• 58:41
  I'm curious to see um in
• 58:44
  years past they usually do
• 58:45
  like a christmas sale or
• 58:46
  something on it and so I
• 58:47
  just was hoping yeah in
• 58:49
  like a week or two uh it
• 58:51
  would go on sale and I
• 58:52
  would get it for the
• 58:53
  cheaper price same since
• 58:55
  it's already a year and a
• 58:56
  half old like I'm not that
• 58:58
  far behind everybody else
• 59:03
  but it also tells that
• 59:06
  there still is a demand
• 59:08
  is a demand for some of this
• 59:09
  stuff if it's number one on
• 59:11
  itunes in the documentary
• 59:12
  category how many how many
• 59:15
  new documentaries are out
• 59:17
  is this just a slow time I
• 59:19
  I love documentaries I
• 59:21
  watch it quite honestly I
• 59:24
  think that it's I think
• 59:26
  people are buying it not
• 59:28
  knowing that it's
• 59:32
  I think there's people not
• 59:34
  necessarily in the CrossFit that are like,
• 59:36
  oh, they've got a documentary on that.
• 59:40
  You could be right with that.
• 59:41
  We know it's a Twenty Twenty Three,
• 59:44
  but some people are like, yeah,
• 59:46
  you're right.
• 59:58
  Yeah.
• 59:58
  Yeah.
• 59:59
  Lex.
• 59:59
  She's not wrong, though.
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  I have a pretty good catalog.
• 1:00:03
  I used to buy them because I
• 1:00:05
  liked them to have them on
• 1:00:06
  a plane because you can
• 1:00:07
  download them and have them.
• 1:00:08
  And,
• 1:00:09
  and if you have no internet on the plane,
• 1:00:11
  you can actually like just
• 1:00:12
  sit and watch stuff.
• 1:00:13
  So,
• 1:00:15
  but I only buy like select things that
• 1:00:16
  I would buy.
• 1:00:17
  I would watch over and over again.
• 1:00:19
  And so, but anyway,
• 1:00:28
  Patrick says,
• 1:00:28
  name another sport that does
• 1:00:29
  yearly documentaries.
• 1:00:31
  Even Hard Knocks is different every year.
• 1:00:34
  Hard Knocks is up to three a year,
• 1:00:36
  but they do pick different
• 1:00:41
  teams or concepts each one.
• 1:00:45
  Is that like when they did
• 1:00:46
  the quarterback?
• 1:00:48
  No,
• 1:00:48
  Hard Knocks is the Chicago Bears were
• 1:00:51
  Hard Knocks this year.
• 1:00:52
  It's been an HBO Max thing
• 1:00:55
  for twenty some years.
• 1:00:57
  And it started as just a
• 1:00:58
  training camp documentary.
• 1:01:01
  And now they do an in season one.
• 1:01:02
  And this year it's the AFC North.
• 1:01:05
  Um, and then they,
• 1:01:06
  they did an off season one
• 1:01:09
  that the giants were on this last year,
• 1:01:10
  but they gave away so many
• 1:01:12
  secrets that no team will
• 1:01:14
  ever do it again.
• 1:01:15
  Gotcha.
• 1:01:18
  Cause it showed them the
• 1:01:20
  giants getting rid of
• 1:01:20
  Saquon Barkley saying that
• 1:01:22
  he was too old for running
• 1:01:24
  back and they were going to
• 1:01:25
  bank on Daniel Jones.
• 1:01:28
  And if you watch football
• 1:01:29
  this year and you see
• 1:01:30
  Saquon Barkley is in the
• 1:01:31
  MVP talk and Daniel Jones
• 1:01:33
  has been cut from the giants.
• 1:01:34
  It makes them look like asses,
• 1:01:40
  but they're great.
• 1:01:41
  It was great to watch in the moment.
• 1:01:44
  I mean, I love that stuff.
• 1:01:50
  Uh, vice says huge mistake.
• 1:01:51
  Go birds as an Eagles fan.
• 1:01:54
  She made out in that deal.
• 1:01:58
  Um,
• 1:01:58
  Patrick said they find a way to refresh
• 1:02:00
  it every year.
• 1:02:01
  CrossFit doesn't have a new storyline.
• 1:02:03
  Even if they do,
• 1:02:03
  they avoid talking about it
• 1:02:04
  because they only care about the winners.
• 1:02:06
  That is the point.
• 1:02:08
  There are new storylines every year,
• 1:02:09
  right?
• 1:02:11
  They're just not willing in
• 1:02:13
  two thousand fourteen when
• 1:02:14
  they did the road to the
• 1:02:15
  games with people that we
• 1:02:16
  had just barely heard of.
• 1:02:18
  That was like the the climax
• 1:02:21
  of when they were good.
• 1:02:22
  Right.
• 1:02:23
  Ever since then,
• 1:02:24
  it's just been the winners.
• 1:02:25
  Yep.
• 1:02:27
  But apparently this one
• 1:02:28
  didn't really talk much
• 1:02:29
  about Ariel and Laura and
• 1:02:32
  they were on the podium for
• 1:02:33
  the female side.
• 1:02:34
  So.
• 1:02:34
  Correct.
• 1:02:35
  Interesting.
• 1:02:39
  Well, that is too kind to say, Patrick.
• 1:02:41
  Thank you so much.
• 1:02:47
  Yeah, I've heard that.
• 1:02:48
  The biggest complaint I
• 1:02:49
  heard is that Ariel is not in it at all.
• 1:02:51
  And my comment to Kat was
• 1:02:56
  that at some point,
• 1:02:58
  don't the people doing the
• 1:02:59
  documentary say, hey,
• 1:03:00
  maybe we should pivot onto
• 1:03:01
  this storyline that's
• 1:03:02
  happening over here?
• 1:03:04
  I think that's been the
• 1:03:05
  problem with the CrossFit documentaries.
• 1:03:08
  They never pivot.
• 1:03:10
  When Tia Toomey takes second
• 1:03:12
  two years in a row and you
• 1:03:13
  have hardly any footage at
• 1:03:15
  all in those two years of
• 1:03:17
  those documentaries,
• 1:03:18
  now they have definitely
• 1:03:19
  made up for it since then.
• 1:03:20
  Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  But that first year,
• 1:03:24
  she didn't even show up in
• 1:03:25
  the documentary until
• 1:03:26
  walking home to her car.
• 1:03:30
  That's so strange.
• 1:03:36
  It's easy to stick to a script,
• 1:03:38
  but maybe that's not the right choice.
• 1:03:40
  I don't understand.
• 1:03:41
  I mean,
• 1:03:42
  are they limited on like memory
• 1:03:44
  cards or batteries or what?
• 1:03:46
  Like,
• 1:03:46
  why are you just not getting foot
• 1:03:48
  like constant footage and
• 1:03:50
  coming up with a script afterwards?
• 1:03:53
  so that is a lame excuse any
• 1:03:55
  of that stuff that you
• 1:03:56
  brought up because you just
• 1:03:57
  go back to your laptop with
• 1:03:58
  your hard drive you
• 1:03:59
  download everything clean
• 1:04:00
  off your card and you go
• 1:04:01
  back out and shoot that's
• 1:04:02
  what I'm saying like how is
• 1:04:03
  there not footage of
• 1:04:04
  literally everyone in every
• 1:04:07
  heat of every like when I'm
• 1:04:09
  at semis I have so much
• 1:04:11
  footage it's ridiculous
• 1:04:15
  literally every heat I know
• 1:04:18
  so I don't I care about all
• 1:04:21
  that and there are groups that don't
• 1:04:23
  If you're making a documentary,
• 1:04:25
  you get footage of
• 1:04:26
  everything because you
• 1:04:27
  don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:04:31
  I don't get it.
• 1:04:36
  So Emily and Jonathan were
• 1:04:37
  at the helm of this one, apparently.
• 1:04:39
  But I thought it was a third
• 1:04:40
  party that they... They
• 1:04:42
  probably used Emily and
• 1:04:43
  Jonathan to lead them and
• 1:04:45
  explain to them athletes
• 1:04:46
  and give them storylines.
• 1:04:47
  And that's just silly.
• 1:04:48
  That's the thing.
• 1:04:49
  Somebody new should just
• 1:04:49
  come in and just...
• 1:04:51
  gobbled up footage and written,
• 1:04:54
  saw what was entertaining
• 1:04:55
  to them per event and like
• 1:04:57
  come up with stories.
• 1:05:00
  Who caught your eye?
• 1:05:01
  Who like, I don't, it doesn't make sense.
• 1:05:03
  I know again,
• 1:05:06
  there are people like when we
• 1:05:07
  go to these events,
• 1:05:08
  we sit there and we talk and we say, who,
• 1:05:11
  who is your surprise?
• 1:05:12
  Who is your,
• 1:05:13
  who do you think is going to
• 1:05:14
  like come out of this muck and be like,
• 1:05:17
  they apparently don't have those meetings,
• 1:05:19
  right?
• 1:05:20
  Yeah, like they should be talking.
• 1:05:22
  They should be filming a
• 1:05:23
  bunch of things without any, you know,
• 1:05:26
  like blanks.
• 1:05:29
  And then just kind of, you know,
• 1:05:31
  as the competition unfolds,
• 1:05:33
  like there's always
• 1:05:33
  storylines and it's like
• 1:05:35
  lean into that and figure
• 1:05:37
  out and talk to the fans or
• 1:05:38
  talk to other people and
• 1:05:39
  see what's going on and
• 1:05:41
  what would be interesting.
• 1:05:43
  And yeah,
• 1:05:43
  like then you start exploring
• 1:05:45
  more of that person as, you know,
• 1:05:47
  they're creeping up or...
• 1:05:50
  an injury happens and I'm
• 1:05:52
  not talking the
• 1:05:52
  documentaries from like
• 1:05:58
  like like this one I've not
• 1:05:59
  seen so I'm not dogging it
• 1:06:01
  yet I will reserve my
• 1:06:02
  dogging until I see it yeah
• 1:06:08
  amen sister also feature
• 1:06:10
  more rookies and more
• 1:06:11
  international athletes yep
• 1:06:13
  yes yes yes we have been
• 1:06:15
  pounding that drum for five years
• 1:06:21
  um also pat velner spoke
• 1:06:26
  last week did you guys
• 1:06:28
  catch that on coffee pods
• 1:06:29
  and mods I did there seems
• 1:06:34
  to be some kind of outcry
• 1:06:35
  that like pat has changed
• 1:06:37
  and now I'm no longer a fan
• 1:06:38
  yeah I've heard I've heard a lot of that
• 1:06:44
  I found, and this is my opinion,
• 1:06:46
  and you can call me wrong or not,
• 1:06:47
  Pat has always been critical of CrossFit.
• 1:06:49
  He's always been critical of Dave.
• 1:06:51
  I don't think anything has changed.
• 1:06:54
  And he is a veteran athlete,
• 1:06:56
  and if he doesn't want to
• 1:06:58
  compete anymore in the Open,
• 1:07:00
  that's his choice.
• 1:07:01
  He's thirty-five years old.
• 1:07:03
  He's had a great career.
• 1:07:05
  And if he only wants to do
• 1:07:06
  select events...
• 1:07:08
  That's fine.
• 1:07:09
  I think it's very consistent
• 1:07:10
  with who he has always been.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Like he's extremely laid back,
• 1:07:14
  but he's very critical and he's like, uh,
• 1:07:19
  yeah, he's, he's always been like that.
• 1:07:20
  He's, um,
• 1:07:21
  he's not afraid to speak up and
• 1:07:24
  like a lot of people don't
• 1:07:25
  speak up and he's one of
• 1:07:26
  those athletes that does speak up.
• 1:07:28
  Um,
• 1:07:29
  Like, in the briefings,
• 1:07:30
  he's always asking questions.
• 1:07:31
  Like, he wants, you know,
• 1:07:33
  everyone to have a fair
• 1:07:35
  game and stuff like that.
• 1:07:36
  Like,
• 1:07:36
  I don't see that there's a huge
• 1:07:38
  change necessarily with Pat, I think.
• 1:07:42
  But at a certain point, like, you know...
• 1:07:46
  And he has a different
• 1:07:47
  experience than other people.
• 1:07:48
  There's a lot of opinions of
• 1:07:51
  people that have never been at the games.
• 1:07:53
  There's a lot of opinions of
• 1:07:55
  people that have been on
• 1:07:55
  the team side and not on
• 1:07:57
  the individual side.
• 1:07:58
  And that's different.
• 1:08:00
  It is a different experience.
• 1:08:01
  So you have someone that has
• 1:08:03
  nine years or ten years of
• 1:08:05
  experience and people have
• 1:08:09
  their own opinions and
• 1:08:09
  don't want to believe
• 1:08:10
  anything that he's saying.
• 1:08:11
  And I think that
• 1:08:13
  he's coming from his
• 1:08:14
  perspective and um he's not
• 1:08:16
  a stupid guy he's extremely
• 1:08:18
  smart and he's obviously
• 1:08:20
  experienced some stuff that
• 1:08:22
  other people may not have
• 1:08:23
  and may not understand um
• 1:08:26
  but I don't think that
• 1:08:27
  there's any differences
• 1:08:30
  really and like his
• 1:08:32
  interview with Castro was
• 1:08:33
  one of the best ones yeah I
• 1:08:34
  enjoyed it and he and he
• 1:08:36
  was critical to Dave's face
• 1:08:38
  Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  He wasn't afraid.
• 1:08:39
  Right.
• 1:08:40
  Like everyone else is,
• 1:08:41
  it was chicken and they, they're,
• 1:08:43
  they want to stroke Dave's
• 1:08:44
  ego all the time and,
• 1:08:45
  and get on his good side
• 1:08:46
  because there's people that
• 1:08:48
  have been blackballed for
• 1:08:50
  different opportunities in the past.
• 1:08:51
  And, you know,
• 1:08:52
  you don't want to lose that.
• 1:08:53
  So you, you put your best, you know,
• 1:08:56
  your best foot forward and
• 1:08:57
  you try to keep those opportunities.
• 1:08:59
  And, but then behind the scenes,
• 1:09:01
  there's other,
• 1:09:01
  like there's differences of opinions.
• 1:09:03
  It's yeah.
• 1:09:05
  Yeah.
• 1:09:07
  I mean,
• 1:09:09
  Pat's one of those guys that
• 1:09:10
  has a life outside of CrossFit.
• 1:09:12
  Like if this doesn't go,
• 1:09:14
  if this doesn't continue for him,
• 1:09:15
  then he's fine.
• 1:09:16
  Right.
• 1:09:17
  He's a happily married man
• 1:09:20
  with kids and a job that he
• 1:09:22
  can go support himself and
• 1:09:24
  he'll be just fine.
• 1:09:25
  So like, this isn't his livelihood.
• 1:09:29
  Um, yeah.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah.
• 1:09:33
  The only beef I had with the whole thing,
• 1:09:35
  and it's been my beef with
• 1:09:36
  the PFAA from the beginning,
• 1:09:38
  and that is it's very easy
• 1:09:40
  for Brent and Pat to make
• 1:09:41
  these statements because
• 1:09:43
  they've made their money.
• 1:09:45
  They've had their successes.
• 1:09:46
  They've done all this stuff.
• 1:09:48
  And I think it's a lot
• 1:09:49
  harder for the people,
• 1:09:51
  and I'm just using people
• 1:09:53
  that I knew really well during this time,
• 1:09:55
  the Hattie Canyos that are that bubble,
• 1:09:58
  games, semifinal athlete, Kelly Baker.
• 1:10:02
  to make those same decisions
• 1:10:03
  when it's not assured that
• 1:10:05
  they're going to the games every year.
• 1:10:07
  Right.
• 1:10:09
  Or that they're going to get
• 1:10:10
  invites to Wadapalooza or
• 1:10:12
  they're going to get
• 1:10:13
  invites to Dubai or Rogue.
• 1:10:15
  It's a lot harder for them without...
• 1:10:19
  And so I think the PFA
• 1:10:22
  should exist and it should
• 1:10:24
  support athletes,
• 1:10:25
  but there is no clear cut
• 1:10:26
  plan of how an athlete is
• 1:10:29
  to make any money at all
• 1:10:31
  through the season and as
• 1:10:32
  an alternate way to the game season.
• 1:10:35
  But I think that's what he
• 1:10:35
  talked about was especially
• 1:10:38
  people that don't have
• 1:10:39
  those same opportunities.
• 1:10:40
  Like Jeff can go anywhere
• 1:10:41
  and basically win, like, you know, or get,
• 1:10:44
  you know, top, top money.
• 1:10:46
  But if you are one of those
• 1:10:48
  athletes that go to these
• 1:10:52
  competitions and you're not
• 1:10:53
  guaranteed any money and
• 1:10:54
  you're out of pocket,
• 1:10:55
  you're looking for as many
• 1:10:56
  competitions as you can,
• 1:10:58
  whether it's both seasons,
• 1:10:59
  the Open and the other ones,
• 1:11:01
  just to kind of get your opportunity,
• 1:11:03
  get your sponsorships,
• 1:11:04
  get the door open a little bit for you.
• 1:11:06
  So that's what he said,
• 1:11:08
  is that certain athletes
• 1:11:09
  like himself or other
• 1:11:11
  people that have some
• 1:11:12
  experience or are at the higher end,
• 1:11:14
  they have that...
• 1:11:17
  you know,
• 1:11:17
  a different path that they can take.
• 1:11:19
  And that option is still
• 1:11:20
  very good is what he said.
• 1:11:22
  Like he's made as much money, if not more,
• 1:11:24
  way more during outside competitions than,
• 1:11:28
  than the open.
• 1:11:30
  Like a couple of times like that alone.
• 1:11:31
  And what a Palooza.
• 1:11:35
  So, but I did appreciate that.
• 1:11:36
  He said, Hey, if,
• 1:11:38
  if you feel like you need
• 1:11:39
  to go through the open and
• 1:11:40
  the CrossFit game season,
• 1:11:42
  that that's completely up to you.
• 1:11:43
  And we will support you through that.
• 1:11:48
  And so I did respect that he did say that.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  So,
• 1:12:00
  and Lynn just echoes what Carolyn just
• 1:12:02
  said, Hey, I can make that decision,
• 1:12:04
  but for new athletes to do the open,
• 1:12:05
  get more experience in comms.
• 1:12:08
  Yeah.
• 1:12:09
  You don't want to be
• 1:12:10
  competing online the whole time too.
• 1:12:12
  But if that's the way that
• 1:12:13
  you can maybe get there,
• 1:12:14
  like some people will take
• 1:12:15
  that and other people will
• 1:12:16
  want to go in person.
• 1:12:17
  Like there's two each their own.
• 1:12:22
  Um, Beck says, uh,
• 1:12:26
  I I'm both a CrossFit fan
• 1:12:27
  and a Vellner fan.
• 1:12:28
  I think there's a weird
• 1:12:29
  mentality out there that
• 1:12:30
  people need to choose which one.
• 1:12:33
  And you don't really need to
• 1:12:34
  choose which one.
• 1:12:38
  Right now,
• 1:12:38
  we don't know what the hell each one is.
• 1:12:41
  Which one what?
• 1:12:42
  Like, what do we have?
• 1:12:44
  Yeah, what do we have?
• 1:12:45
  I found it a little strange
• 1:12:47
  in the interview,
• 1:12:48
  and maybe I missed
• 1:12:49
  something or I needed to rewind it.
• 1:12:50
  I don't know.
• 1:12:51
  Maybe you guys can fill me in.
• 1:12:53
  I feel like Pat sort of,
• 1:12:55
  I don't even know if he was
• 1:12:56
  attacking Peter or the
• 1:12:59
  community in general,
• 1:13:00
  but basically said something about, like,
• 1:13:03
  there's two, not necessarily leaks,
• 1:13:05
  but there's just too much
• 1:13:06
  like talking and people
• 1:13:07
  think they know information.
• 1:13:08
  And then it's,
• 1:13:09
  and I don't know if he was
• 1:13:10
  talking about the world
• 1:13:11
  fitness project and Peter
• 1:13:13
  saying something about it.
• 1:13:15
  He was saying that the world
• 1:13:16
  fitness project had, that has no leaks.
• 1:13:18
  And then Peter said,
• 1:13:19
  I know as much about that
• 1:13:21
  as I know about the game season, which is,
• 1:13:24
  but, but I feel like he was saying it is,
• 1:13:27
  it is some things.
• 1:13:30
  Yes.
• 1:13:31
  He was indicating that he
• 1:13:32
  knows that it has leaked as
• 1:13:34
  much as the game season has leaked.
• 1:13:36
  It's going to leak.
• 1:13:38
  It's going to leak.
• 1:13:39
  Both sides are going to leak.
• 1:13:40
  We have a sport that's
• 1:13:42
  unknown and people want to
• 1:13:44
  get any information and that's just it.
• 1:13:49
  Unless you make a sport
• 1:13:51
  that's known and you
• 1:13:53
  release certain information,
• 1:13:55
  you're going to get people
• 1:13:55
  that know information above others.
• 1:13:57
  That's who you know.
• 1:14:00
  That's the unfair part of our sport.
• 1:14:03
  One of many, but yeah.
• 1:14:06
  I think it should just all
• 1:14:07
  come out the second it
• 1:14:08
  starts being leaked.
• 1:14:10
  Just post it.
• 1:14:11
  World Fitness Project needs
• 1:14:13
  to post whatever the frick
• 1:14:14
  it is that's going on
• 1:14:15
  because clearly people know.
• 1:14:19
  Put out the information.
• 1:14:23
  Patrick mentions the media
• 1:14:24
  is the same way.
• 1:14:26
  I learn about a lot of
• 1:14:27
  things and I say nothing.
• 1:14:29
  because I don't know if it's
• 1:14:31
  true or not like I hear of
• 1:14:34
  all the rumors I've heard
• 1:14:35
  only about fifty percent of
• 1:14:36
  it actually came true like
• 1:14:40
  I wonder if each one of
• 1:14:41
  them is just waiting for
• 1:14:42
  the other person's cards to
• 1:14:43
  kind of get released or
• 1:14:44
  something you know like the
• 1:14:46
  world fitness project is
• 1:14:47
  waiting for the games the
• 1:14:48
  games might be I don't
• 1:14:50
  think the games would be
• 1:14:50
  waiting for the other way but
• 1:14:54
  The biggest mistake is the game season,
• 1:14:57
  in a year that they needed
• 1:14:59
  to have their stuff buttoned up,
• 1:15:01
  they didn't do it.
• 1:15:04
  Because everybody is nipping
• 1:15:05
  at their heels,
• 1:15:06
  and they needed to have the
• 1:15:08
  shit buttoned up this year,
• 1:15:10
  and they didn't do it.
• 1:15:11
  Yeah.
• 1:15:12
  I don't understand how you wait those many,
• 1:15:14
  like that many months.
• 1:15:15
  You don't talk to like, you know,
• 1:15:17
  there's no information to the community,
• 1:15:18
  anything.
• 1:15:19
  And then you release a very
• 1:15:21
  vague statement and no real
• 1:15:25
  information on the season.
• 1:15:27
  You give ranges of what people qualifying,
• 1:15:30
  like there's just no details.
• 1:15:31
  And it's like, Oh yeah, the,
• 1:15:34
  the rule book will be out and who knows,
• 1:15:36
  January or whatever.
• 1:15:37
  And it's like,
• 1:15:39
  What like there's already a
• 1:15:41
  huge lack of trust.
• 1:15:42
  Like there was a lack of
• 1:15:43
  trust prior to the games.
• 1:15:44
  And then we know what
• 1:15:46
  happened and you're not,
• 1:15:48
  they're not working to get
• 1:15:51
  that trust back when they
• 1:15:52
  release bag information like that.
• 1:15:56
  Uh, vice says, Scott, you're the exception,
• 1:15:57
  not the rule.
• 1:15:59
  I wish I wasn't,
• 1:16:00
  but my podcast is based on relationships,
• 1:16:02
  right?
• 1:16:03
  the relationships I build
• 1:16:04
  with people so that I can
• 1:16:05
  have them on to have
• 1:16:07
  conversations and things like that.
• 1:16:09
  And if I did anything to destroy that,
• 1:16:12
  I would lose my podcast.
• 1:16:15
  And it's what I believe,
• 1:16:17
  that you don't tell other
• 1:16:20
  people's stories.
• 1:16:21
  Patrick said, it's their story to tell.
• 1:16:24
  And I completely agree with that.
• 1:16:25
  But my job is to create relationships with
• 1:16:29
  all these athletes,
• 1:16:30
  all these players in the game.
• 1:16:32
  And so that they can come on
• 1:16:35
  and feel okay about telling
• 1:16:36
  me things because I'm not
• 1:16:37
  going to go tell the world.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah.
• 1:16:46
  Um, so with that, um,
• 1:16:52
  I think that wraps up Velner.
• 1:16:54
  Um, and then my last question is,
• 1:16:57
  this has been going around on, uh,
• 1:17:00
  I know I saw it on Around
• 1:17:01
  the Whiteboard as an option
• 1:17:03
  to fix CrossFit in the United States.
• 1:17:06
  And that is to shrink it.
• 1:17:08
  Meaning,
• 1:17:10
  invest more in smaller locations
• 1:17:13
  to hold events,
• 1:17:15
  Like an example was given
• 1:17:17
  like the Mayhem Classic
• 1:17:18
  because it only allowed in
• 1:17:20
  like six hundred to a thousand people.
• 1:17:22
  It looked packed when you
• 1:17:24
  hold an event there.
• 1:17:25
  Right.
• 1:17:26
  Or like Crash,
• 1:17:27
  when you look around the venue,
• 1:17:29
  it's packed with people
• 1:17:30
  because they are there.
• 1:17:32
  CrossFit says it eloquently,
• 1:17:34
  boutique events.
• 1:17:37
  where you get big names
• 1:17:38
  where people will pay a
• 1:17:40
  premium price to get a
• 1:17:41
  really great seat in a small location.
• 1:17:44
  And as that grows and then
• 1:17:47
  the demand grows,
• 1:17:48
  then you can start moving
• 1:17:49
  into a little bit bigger
• 1:17:50
  and a little bit bigger and
• 1:17:51
  a little bit bigger.
• 1:17:52
  But to think that we are
• 1:17:53
  still in a place where you
• 1:17:54
  can get the tennis stadium
• 1:17:56
  in Carson and fill it, we're not there.
• 1:18:01
  Thoughts?
• 1:18:02
  No, I agree.
• 1:18:03
  I mean,
• 1:18:03
  I do think tennis stadiums kind of
• 1:18:06
  are the sweet spot.
• 1:18:07
  Like Dubai didn't,
• 1:18:09
  it sucks that Dubai didn't
• 1:18:10
  have more people, but like that, that,
• 1:18:12
  that size,
• 1:18:14
  if you could get that even half filled,
• 1:18:18
  I think would be electric for fans.
• 1:18:20
  It's close enough that you
• 1:18:21
  can see as a fan and not
• 1:18:24
  too big that you don't feel
• 1:18:26
  like you're can spectate or
• 1:18:28
  be a part or yell or be heard.
• 1:18:32
  So I don't know if any of
• 1:18:32
  you went to mayhem that year,
• 1:18:35
  but it was the best
• 1:18:38
  competition I ever witnessed in person.
• 1:18:41
  There was six lanes.
• 1:18:43
  Lex competed, I think,
• 1:18:44
  or is the year you're talking about,
• 1:18:46
  I think.
• 1:18:46
  It only existed one year.
• 1:18:48
  Okay, so yeah.
• 1:18:49
  There was like an outdoor run.
• 1:18:51
  They had the double unders
• 1:18:52
  at the rope climb.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, Lex was at that one.
• 1:18:53
  Selena was there too.
• 1:18:55
  She said she liked that competition.
• 1:18:56
  They only had six lanes.
• 1:18:58
  It was easy to see everybody.
• 1:19:00
  And then they had stands at
• 1:19:02
  the finish line.
• 1:19:04
  And then the rest was just
• 1:19:05
  standing room only around the sides.
• 1:19:06
  And it was packed.
• 1:19:07
  And then they had a VIP lounge,
• 1:19:08
  if you've ever seen Mayhem,
• 1:19:10
  like above their gift shop.
• 1:19:12
  There's like a little...
• 1:19:15
  patio I don't know almost
• 1:19:17
  you could go up there and
• 1:19:18
  hang out um and they would
• 1:19:20
  they brought in other
• 1:19:22
  crossfit athletes that
• 1:19:22
  weren't competing to hang
• 1:19:23
  out with the vips up there
• 1:19:26
  and you you could look down
• 1:19:27
  over the the field of play
• 1:19:28
  you were right above it so
• 1:19:31
  like you're suggesting that
• 1:19:33
  major competitions be like
• 1:19:35
  held in affiliates I'm saying that
• 1:19:40
  There'd be no hotels.
• 1:19:41
  It depends on the city and stuff.
• 1:19:45
  I don't know.
• 1:19:46
  I think certain comps can
• 1:19:47
  get away with it.
• 1:19:48
  Crash is a very unique...
• 1:19:51
  And that's why it's cool.
• 1:19:52
  That happens once,
• 1:19:54
  but I don't think that many
• 1:19:56
  can happen like that.
• 1:19:57
  It would just get so... I'm
• 1:19:59
  saying that maybe instead
• 1:20:00
  of having a bunch of
• 1:20:03
  major... Rogue's going to sell out.
• 1:20:05
  Waterpalooza's going to sell out.
• 1:20:06
  I'm not asking them to shrink.
• 1:20:08
  But our semifinals have not been good.
• 1:20:13
  You couldn't do a semifinals?
• 1:20:14
  I thought East was pretty good.
• 1:20:15
  I thought it was pretty good.
• 1:20:17
  It wasn't sold out.
• 1:20:19
  But you couldn't do that
• 1:20:21
  type of competition with
• 1:20:22
  all the teams and individuals and stuff.
• 1:20:24
  There'd be no room.
• 1:20:26
  There'd be no warm-up area.
• 1:20:27
  Do you think teams are still
• 1:20:28
  going to play along in the future?
• 1:20:30
  I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  I think...
• 1:20:35
  It just was like,
• 1:20:36
  I thought it was a cool concept.
• 1:20:37
  These comps need to make money, too.
• 1:20:39
  If it's not an affiliate and
• 1:20:40
  it's a small little place, having teams,
• 1:20:43
  having more athletes compete,
• 1:20:45
  help people go to the stands.
• 1:20:47
  Because all of a sudden,
• 1:20:48
  if you have a community
• 1:20:49
  event and there's scaled divisions,
• 1:20:52
  those people all of a sudden,
• 1:20:53
  between their events,
• 1:20:54
  they're in the stands and
• 1:20:55
  it looks filled.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah.
• 1:20:57
  they get their families there.
• 1:20:58
  Like that's why Granite
• 1:20:59
  games worked very well before too.
• 1:21:01
  Like there was just so many
• 1:21:03
  different divisions going
• 1:21:04
  on and you still had the
• 1:21:05
  elites that were there.
• 1:21:06
  It just was St.
• 1:21:08
  Cloud was just not a good
• 1:21:09
  location to get hotels or fly into.
• 1:21:13
  Um,
• 1:21:14
  But like a place like Mayhem, right?
• 1:21:16
  That affiliate is huge.
• 1:21:17
  And there are plenty of
• 1:21:18
  hotels in Cookville to support that.
• 1:21:22
  If you held like a smaller semifinal,
• 1:21:24
  and we had more semifinals,
• 1:21:26
  but people were paying a
• 1:21:28
  premium to go because it
• 1:21:29
  was limited seating,
• 1:21:31
  like that Mayhem Classic sold out.
• 1:21:35
  And it was way more,
• 1:21:36
  it was games price to get in.
• 1:21:40
  And it sold out.
• 1:21:42
  just I think like we need to
• 1:21:45
  think outside the box to
• 1:21:47
  make it look appealing for
• 1:21:49
  vendors for other
• 1:21:50
  spectators for and offer
• 1:21:53
  something different yeah I
• 1:21:57
  don't know I was sort of
• 1:21:58
  talking to aaron about that
• 1:22:00
  too and why like like you
• 1:22:04
  almost need more
• 1:22:07
  I don't even know how it would work,
• 1:22:08
  but I feel like what's so
• 1:22:10
  draining about CrossFit and
• 1:22:11
  as a spectator is, and even at home,
• 1:22:15
  trying to watch three days
• 1:22:17
  of Dubai or catch up on things.
• 1:22:19
  Kind of like Carolyn said,
• 1:22:23
  if we could shrink a High
• 1:22:26
  Rocks event into more of a
• 1:22:27
  CrossFit event.
• 1:22:28
  And it was just one day, just like an hour,
• 1:22:31
  like a gauntlet.
• 1:22:33
  Go around cities and do this
• 1:22:36
  event that takes...
• 1:22:38
  an hour and yeah maybe you
• 1:22:39
  run heats of it I don't
• 1:22:40
  know but like and then if
• 1:22:42
  that could extract like
• 1:22:44
  maybe there was like an
• 1:22:44
  online portion then that
• 1:22:46
  score counted and then like
• 1:22:47
  two more events like that
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  counted into a end of the
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  month or end of the quarter
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  score it is hard it's hard
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  to as a spectator to want
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  to go travel multiple times
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  for three days or more and
• 1:23:03
  spend a fortune just go watch an event
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  I don't know.
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  If you could get more local
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  comps that were quick, short things,
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  I don't know if it would work.
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  I think we try to cram too much in.
• 1:23:19
  If it wants to be a professional sport,
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  you don't need to add in
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  all the other stuff.
• 1:23:24
  You just... Like six lanes,
• 1:23:27
  eighteen athletes.
• 1:23:29
  You can qualify for the
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  CrossFit Games by coming
• 1:23:31
  here if you finish top two or top three,
• 1:23:33
  whatever it is.
• 1:23:34
  And...
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  you have an awesome event
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  and maybe teams is a
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  separate place at a
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  separate time so that it's
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  not an all day event.
• 1:23:44
  You can come, they,
• 1:23:45
  you get three events done
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  by two o'clock in the
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  afternoon and you have your
• 1:23:49
  evenings to go enjoy yourself.
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  Like,
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  I think that's why the invitational
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  worked really well for teams back then.
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  Like, like team Canada versus team,
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  you say they like condense
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  the schedule into like two
• 1:24:00
  to three hours.
• 1:24:01
  And it's like, boom, like event, event,
• 1:24:03
  event.
• 1:24:04
  And like, yeah,
• 1:24:04
  it's hard on the athletes
• 1:24:05
  that you'd have to
• 1:24:06
  basically maybe modify the
• 1:24:07
  test where it is kind of more sellable,
• 1:24:10
  sellable.
• 1:24:11
  So you can sell it to, you know,
• 1:24:15
  just more viewable.
• 1:24:16
  Um,
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  This was my other piece.
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  Lynn says,
• 1:24:20
  I think the market would be in
• 1:24:22
  meeting top athletes.
• 1:24:24
  Like people go to Mayhem,
• 1:24:25
  so you can hopefully take a
• 1:24:26
  photo with Rich or Roman.
• 1:24:28
  If there was a fan
• 1:24:28
  experience meeting athletes,
• 1:24:29
  they'd sell out.
• 1:24:30
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:24:33
  Pat has a point here.
• 1:24:37
  I think, okay, go ahead, read it.
• 1:24:40
  I don't think there is a
• 1:24:41
  strong market for in-person spectators.
• 1:24:43
  For most major competitions,
• 1:24:44
  the athletes are the
• 1:24:45
  customers and the athletes
• 1:24:47
  fees generate the revenue.
• 1:24:48
  I think that's exactly what
• 1:24:49
  the bigger comps have started to do.
• 1:24:51
  That's why they add
• 1:24:52
  intermediate and novice and
• 1:24:53
  teams and pile it up to
• 1:24:56
  five hundred athletes.
• 1:24:56
  So they're making three
• 1:24:57
  hundred dollars per person
• 1:25:00
  times five hundred athletes.
• 1:25:02
  And that's what.
• 1:25:03
  Yeah.
• 1:25:03
  And the prices just keep
• 1:25:04
  going up and up and up every competition.
• 1:25:06
  Like when we started,
• 1:25:07
  it wasn't this expensive.
• 1:25:08
  Like I can't do any local comp now.
• 1:25:10
  Like local comps now are
• 1:25:11
  like a hundred and
• 1:25:13
  something dollars to participate.
• 1:25:15
  Like they used to be like fifty bucks.
• 1:25:16
  Like, yeah,
• 1:25:17
  it's just it's so expensive now.
• 1:25:19
  What I'm saying is we need
• 1:25:20
  to change the model.
• 1:25:21
  When was the last time we.
• 1:25:23
  So let's just take semifinals,
• 1:25:24
  for example.
• 1:25:25
  We when was the last time we
• 1:25:27
  advertised semifinals?
• 1:25:33
  And announced it in time for
• 1:25:35
  people to be able to make plans.
• 1:25:37
  We can't even announce anything on time.
• 1:25:40
  But that's a major flaw in
• 1:25:42
  trying to get spectators.
• 1:25:44
  Spectators need to plan their vacation.
• 1:25:47
  They need to submit vacation leave.
• 1:25:49
  They need to get hotels.
• 1:25:50
  They need to get flights.
• 1:25:52
  You need to get things.
• 1:25:53
  By these late announcements,
• 1:25:55
  nobody... And my God, as a union member,
• 1:25:58
  we don't even get advance notice.
• 1:26:01
  I had to...
• 1:26:02
  crap out on west coast last
• 1:26:03
  year because I had no time
• 1:26:05
  to get anything
• 1:26:06
  So if you look at the new
• 1:26:08
  season for CrossFit,
• 1:26:09
  you can't promote any
• 1:26:10
  athletes coming to your
• 1:26:11
  event because you don't
• 1:26:12
  know who is going in the semifinals,
• 1:26:14
  who is already going to qualify.
• 1:26:16
  So that's a big negative.
• 1:26:18
  Like you can't be promoting
• 1:26:19
  things in advance like, oh,
• 1:26:21
  Torian is going to host
• 1:26:23
  this competition and you're
• 1:26:24
  going to get to see this
• 1:26:26
  and this athlete get your
• 1:26:27
  tickets right now,
• 1:26:28
  start selling right now.
• 1:26:29
  No,
• 1:26:29
  there's no – like you don't even know
• 1:26:31
  what competition.
• 1:26:32
  You have no idea what
• 1:26:32
  athletes are going to be competing.
• 1:26:36
  regions that they're
• 1:26:36
  qualifying in like there's
• 1:26:38
  just no information you
• 1:26:40
  can't promote any event
• 1:26:41
  that doesn't even exist
• 1:26:42
  right now so they wait till
• 1:26:44
  the last minute it's too
• 1:26:45
  late there's something to
• 1:26:47
  getting to meet athletes in
• 1:26:48
  a more intimate setting
• 1:26:50
  lynn says I almost came to
• 1:26:51
  crash because I could see
• 1:26:52
  carolyn in person then she
• 1:26:55
  says heck in aberdeen
• 1:26:56
  aberdeen we almost closed
• 1:26:58
  down the hilton reception
• 1:26:59
  because danny said we could
• 1:27:00
  say hi yeah the line was huge to see her
• 1:27:05
  If you go to the Arnold and
• 1:27:07
  you go to the Rogue booth
• 1:27:08
  when any of the top Rogue
• 1:27:10
  athletes are there taking selfies,
• 1:27:13
  the line is around the
• 1:27:15
  Rogue booth and down the hallway.
• 1:27:18
  It is an hour wait to get in to see them.
• 1:27:22
  There's something there that
• 1:27:23
  we're not capitalizing on.
• 1:27:29
  And I say we as the collective we.
• 1:27:30
  Okay.
• 1:27:36
  Kenneth saw his Carolina
• 1:27:37
  crash and was too scared
• 1:27:38
  and starstruck to say hi.
• 1:27:45
  Normal human.
• 1:27:47
  On that note, we'll finish it up there.
• 1:27:52
  Guys, as always,
• 1:27:53
  it's been fun having this
• 1:27:55
  chat and this conversation.
• 1:27:57
  If I remember next week to
• 1:27:58
  put it in the notes,
• 1:27:59
  we do have to have that
• 1:28:00
  conversation about can
• 1:28:01
  there be a traveling CrossFit show?
• 1:28:03
  Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  So if I don't put it in,
• 1:28:06
  please put it in the
• 1:28:07
  rundown for next week when
• 1:28:09
  I put out the document.
• 1:28:09
  Because that is something we
• 1:28:12
  did want to talk about after last week.
• 1:28:16
  With that,
• 1:28:18
  hope everybody has a great
• 1:28:19
  return to the work week tomorrow.
• 1:28:20
  Yay.
• 1:28:21
  Um, with that, uh, everybody,
• 1:28:24
  thank you so much for being here.
• 1:28:25
  This has been Sunday, Sunday, Sunday night,
• 1:28:28
  CrossFit talk.
• 1:28:29
  And we'll be back again next week.
• 1:28:32
  The original CrossFit Sunday
• 1:28:33
  night talk show.
• 1:28:34
  Bye guys.